Israel Faces a Defining Question: How Much Democracy Should Arabs Get?

Mar 12, 2020 · 45 comments
Ami (California)
Multiculturalism in an era of identity politics brings some challenges.
Melquiades (Athens, GA)
Sorry, but this is ridiculous: the US has one core requirement, that 'all humans are equal'. I re-phrased because the Founding Dads said 'Men', not 'humans' (since re-cast in the Constitution). But Israel (and other countries out there today, e.g. Saudi Arabia and Iran) have a culture/race/religion supremacy angle that is different: all 'humans' are NOT created equal, and the law need to wrap around that. FYI: if you believe all humans are not created equal before the law, you are my enemy, I don't care where you live
Jamie Nichols (Santa Barbara)
After reading this story, I didn't know whether to scream or cry. Both Israeli Jews and Palestinian and Israeli Arabs should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. That they are still willing to continue embracing the same bigoted beliefs and bloody behavior toward each other--while the rest of the world looks on defeatedly and disgustedly at the discrimination, land-grabbing, cruelties, injustices, terrorism, and war crimes--is simply a sign of the politically intractable nature of the their dispute. Or so we are told by our leaders. Yet, the Israeli-Arab dispute shows more, far more, though most of our species would be loathe even to say its name, religion, much less to cast blame on it. If we could all take off our blinders and see what history plainly reveals, we might then be able to accept stories like this as irrefutable proof, if any more was needed, that the so-called "holy land" is anything but holy. Instead the "holy land" has served as the main killing fields for all three Abrahamic religions, whose members currently constitute the bulk of our species. The irony that Israeli Jews are not cast in the role as the persecutors and bullies of the weak on both sides of the border seems lost on most Israelis and their supporters. And the Arabs inside and neighboring Israel seem content to play the foolish, hapless provocateur. And the God of both must feel exactly as I do, though He should know better than anyone whether to cry or scream at the mess He's created!
Lawyermom (Washington DCt)
The government of Northern Ireland includes representatives from both sides of the conflict during the Troubles, even former members of the IRA and the loyalist paramilitary groups. It can be done but only if both sides have the will.
s.khan (Providence, RI)
If the new government ,with the support of Arabs, reconcile to two state solution peace will come to the region. Israel won't have to resort to bombing Gaza and Israeli Arabs won't show sympathy for Gazans. This approach would also assimilate Arabs into Israeli society. Excluding them would alienate them and make them" enemy within" a reality. Time to make Israel a true democracy and also change the elections system.
impegleg (NJ)
The day of decision has arrived for Israeli's. Is Israel a democratic state or other? If "other" than what? Its claim of equal treatment for all citizens will have proven to be a sham if it chooses not to be a democracy.
Lilo (Michigan)
Netanyahu , much like George Wallace in a different time but similar situation, will NEVER let anyone surpass him in his hatred of the "other". If Israelis think that it's fine to exclude people from government based on race, religion, and ethnicity, then Israel is not a democracy. It's just become more obvious. No Jewish person who accepts this in Israel would tolerate this in the US.
Greg (Lyon, France)
Netanyahu & Co. has led Israelis down a dark and dead end path. The evidence of darkness is that so many in the crowd now want to change the definition of "democracy". Is there any hope of a 180 degree turn around and a return to the light?
Bob (Montréal)
Netanyahu is a far bigger problem to Israel than Israeli Arabs. Actually he just have to go away and instantly a national union government would be possible.
AKJersey (New Jersey)
The article should point out that 3 members of the Israeli non-Arab parties are in fact Arab (Druze), and one member of the Joint List is Jewish. Also, many Arabs vote for non-Arab parties. Further, some of the members of the Joint List oppose any coalition with Jewish parties. So to present the situation as primarily due to Jewish intolerance is incorrect.
jrd (ny)
Imagine the horror of American Jews if one or both of our political parties decided not to work with the Jews in Congress, because (so they claimed) the true loyalty of American Jews was to Israel, not the U.S. Meanwhile, the same state which demands that Palestinians recognize its right to exist specifically as a Jewish state (and its right to continue the occupation) won't even recognize its own lawful citizens.
Mike Edwards (Providence, RI)
"A state established to protect the Jewish people, and still in conflict with the Palestinians, cannot entrust weighty policy decisions to people whose sympathies may be with the other side." Pretty tough to argue against - if you're a Jewish person living in Israel - and not in the US.
rxft (nyc)
@Mike Edwards "Pretty tough to argue against." Also pretty impossible to call yourself a democracy if you choose this path.
a.stein (Natick, MA and Netanya, Israel)
If the Joint List represented the interests of Israeli Arabs, it would be a welcome part of any coalition. Unfortunately, its priority is support for Israel's enemies. One demand they're making is that Israel not defend itself against terror attacks from Gaza. Another is that Jews not be allowed to even visit the Temple Mount! The Joint List has made itself unacceptable.
JB (NY)
Parliamentary systems sidelining rising parties seems to be pretty much the norm, though? Look at how the increasingly mainstream AfD are treated in Germany. But, I'm sure you want to say, "that's different" because one group is as pure as driven snow and the other group is as black as tarred coal. They're both effectively insurgent groups with views against the prevailing mainstream. The problem is, then, that embracing too much of the "outsider" bloc alienates people on the "insider" blocs. Is it worth the trade? Israel's situation and the questions is raises is thus not so different from the situation in many European countries... and here in the US as well, really, with our Big Tent systems. Things are politically messy all around. Well, except in Japan I guess, and a tiny number of other (cheating) homogeneous countries.
Meyer (saugerties, ny)
Unfortunately, this article doesn't mention the many Jewish Israelis who voted for the Joint List, including our son in Jerusalem, a veteran of the IDF. The current movement of Israeli politics is toward inclusion of it's Arab citizens, the most hopeful development I have yet seen. Including them will fulfill the claim that Israel is the only true democracy in the middle east, at this point, only an empty claim. The end of the Netanyahu era is upon us and, perhaps, his spiritual partner, Trump. Perhaps we will also see the Palestinians ridding themselves of Abbas and his minions as well.
S. Jackson (New York)
@Meyer I applaud your optimism, but I disagree with your implicit assessment of Abbas. The Palestinians don’t have any say in his power. Unfortunately it’s Israel and the U.S. that keep him in power. They know he is a corrupt sell-out, so they want to keep him. Just look at how powerless the Palestinians have been under his rule.
Sholom (Chicago)
And what if, as seems likely, the answer is "not much?" Does America then face its own (if not quite defining) question, "How much support should Israel get?"
Tom ,Retired Florida Junkman (Florida)
This is an interesting question, just how much worth, true value, has each individual ? If each man and woman is judged independently and without bias they would all be equal. However, if each is viewed as a vote for a definitive event then their intrinsic value and worth is mitigated by the possible ramifications of the situation. Thus Israel finds itself in a paradoxical position. If one views life as history then history is confined to that persons life. If you view life as a continuation, a river flowing, through which we all immerse ourselves during our physical life, yet our children and our children's children are still immersed in this flow of time. If this is your view you know Israel is wrong to segregate and steal the land of the Palestinians. Yet if your view is shorthand, your life that's history then you want to stop them, whoever them is in their tracks. No vote for the Palestinians as their birthrate is sooo much higher than the controlling Israeli's. These are the two questions. Short term the guys with the guns win. Long term, the families with the most babies win. Where would Israel want to be in 50 years, 100 years ? The wrong choice could have significant implications.
DJ (Tempe, AZ)
I hope that Gantz forms a coalition with the Arab lawmakers. This would take the wind out of the BDS movement and possibly be the best chance for negotiating a 2-state solution.
Martin Daly (San Diego, California)
Apparently, some politicians (and others) believe that while all citizens are equal (on paper), some are more equal than others (when it comes to forming a government). Instead of writing off a whole segment of the population, all parties should try to appeal to its members. The Druze vote is an example to be followed.
Chazak (Rockville Maryland)
I bet the Arabs in the 22 Arab countries and those in the Palestinian ruled areas of the west bank and Gaza wish that they had free and fair elections like the Arabs who live in Israel. The Israelis will work this out and hopefully come together to retire Mr. Netanyahu. The anti-Israel obsessives, well represented here, will see this as some sort of flaw in Israeli life, but they see everything as a reason to criticize Israel. The Israeli Arabs have finally come to the table and demanded their rights through the ballot box. Good for them.
Ezekial (san jose, ca)
@Chazak Yes, I'll bet that the occupied Palestinians living in the West Bank wish they could vote for members of the Knesset, like their Jewish neighbors do. Those neighbors vote for members of the Knesset, who then decide on policies and actions that have a direct (and adverse) effect on the lives of the Palestinians, who have no vote and no voice.
m1945 (Long Island, NY)
@Ezekial The Palestinians of Gaza have no freedom of speech, no freedom of the press, no freedom of assembly no freedom of religion. It makes no sense to blame the Israelis or the Jews because there are no Israelis or Jews in Gaza. Jews lived in Gaza for centuries, but were ethnically cleansed by the Palestinians in 1929. If the people of Gaza want freedom, if the people of Gaza want their rights, they need to overthrow Hamas.
sharpshin (NJ)
@m1945 Well, that was totally unresponsive to the comment of Ezekial on the dilemma of Palestinians in the West Bank. But you have no real answer, hence deflection.
Peter Schaeffer (Morgantown, WV)
Israel must choose: Does it want to be a democracy or a theocracy?
Ken Hajjar (Raymond NH)
Just the fact that you are asking that question indicates to me that the Israeli experiment is failing. It is either a democracy or it isn’t. If you base democracy upon membership in a specific religion, you are not a democracy. It’s time to end the charade or to be true to the concept of a democratic society which includes all citizens.
W. Sherman (USA)
Ah yes, the "one true democracy in the Middle East," "America's greatest ally," this is really a fine example of Western democratic values in practice. I am thankful that the tide has begun to turn and it's becoming possible to have serious conversations about the pervasive racism in Israel, but the unquestioning and unrepentant support among American lawmakers for Israel is still deeply disheartening. If America truly cared about democracy in the Middle East we may have done well not to send one Mohammad Mossadegh packing...or propped up the Sadat puppet regime...but then again, racial discrimination is as American as apple pie and fireworks.
Gretzky (Coral Springs,FL)
@W. Sherman Americans need to look in the mirror before they accuse other nations of racism! Even today lawmakers are attempting to prevent Native Americans from voting. very hypocritical.
Greg (Lyon, France)
The picture shows the Israeli prime minister in a security cordon of no less than 6 tough looking guards. This is not the image you would expect in a liberal democracy. The founding fathers would not be happy to see this kind of result.
Want2know (MI)
@Greg You obviously have not seen the Secret Service protection around US presidents in recent decades.
David Paul (New York Ny)
Ariel Sharon came to realize a separate Palestinian state was a good idea. He saw, what should have been obvious to all, that a "two-state solution" clearly was the only way to maintain Israel as a "Jewish" state. And, of course, Netanyahu's policies have made that scenario impossible. Isn't it ironic that Netanyahu himself will be most responsible for bringing Arabs into the Israeli mainstream. Will be interesting to see how Israel can avoid becoming another South Africa.
Greg (Lyon, France)
@David Paul Correct, but you are making one big assumption; that the extremists of Israel will not resort to deportations of Palestinians. We have already heard some talk of deportation of those that resist the extremist agenda.
Ken (McLean VA)
Itamar Radai, an expert on Arab-Jewish relations at Tel Aviv University, says Israel is not “one nation under God,” like the United States, but rather two nations still locked in conflict over a single territory. Logic would suggest that these two nations should agree on a two-state solution, with territorial compromises. But Jewish and Arab politicians, and their political bodies, have never been able to accomplish this, and actually have moved further away from it. In 2012, six former heads of the Israeli Shin Bet, were interviewed in an award-winning documentary film, "The Gatekeepers." Based on their extensive experience overseeing Israel's war on terror, both Palestinian and Jewish, they explained how they came to advocate a conciliatory approach toward their enemies based on a two-state solution. It's time for new leaders, on both sides.
Revisionist (Phoenix)
I wish it were that simple. Life would be so much better. Reality is a two state solution is finished. Settlers made sure of that. Israeli society and the International Community would never tolerate mass displacement of millions of Palestinians. What is left? One person, one vote in Palestine-Israel. If Europeans who warred with each other for a thousand years can come together, then semites who have had less than 80 years of conflict can do so as well. Here’s to peace and democracy.
Want2know (MI)
@Ken New leadership on both sides, a UN Security Council Resolution based on the Clinton Parameters and a US and allied commitment to move toward that goal.
m1945 (Long Island, NY)
@Revisionist Long before the settlers were born, Al-Azhar University (highest authority in Sunni Islam) declared holy war to return Palestine to Islamic rule, thus ruling out a 2-state solution.
Christy (WA)
Isn't it ironic that the country which claims to be "the only democracy in the Middle East" is still debating how much democracy to give its Arab citizens?
m1945 (Long Island, NY)
@Christy Should we Americans set a good example of equality by abolishing Affirmative Action which discriminates by race, ethnicity & gender?
Cynthia Stewart (Topeka, Kansas)
@m1945 Affirmative action does no such thing. It is a small step to redressing centuries of oppression, overcoming ongoing discrimination against minorities, combatting massive inequalities, and promoting much needed diversity in our society — recognizing that diversity is a component of excellence. Shouldn't we, as Americans, and commenters on New York Times, be setting an example by calling for an end to voter suppression, re-invigorating the Voting Rights Act and federal oversight of wayward states who discriminate against broad swaths of their electorates, and finally ending racial, gender, and religious discrimination against minority groups? We need to care about those things that are fundamental to expanding and preserving our democracy, not engage in tired debates over affirmative action, which has been undermined for decades, while discrimination runs unabated and fueled by a White Nationalist President.
Chuck Burton (Mazatlan, Mexico)
Oh, is that what it does? Could it be possible that this policy is about balancing the scales of past injustices which continue to this very day? Recognizing racial and ethnic differences should not be conflated with discrimination even if it does inconvenience the power elite.
Greg (Lyon, France)
The notion of a superior race or ethnicity seems so out-dated. It seems to belong in the previous centuries, not this one. The concept of "never again" should apply to all peoples.
m1945 (Long Island, NY)
@Greg Jews had been persecuted for centuries in majority-gentile countries. Even when not actively persecuting the Jews, the majority-gentile countries refused to give refuge to the Jews when they needed it. There would have been no Holocaust if majority-gentile countries would have allowed in Jewish refugees who were escaping from the Nazis. The idea of Zionism was that Jews would return to their homeland & have a majority-Jewish country because majority-gentile countries had failed to provide safety for the Jews.
Greg (Lyon, France)
@m1945 Didn't the persecution end about 75 years ago? It is disturbing to see such historical persecution today being used as leverage in the persecution of other peoples.
Want2know (MI)
@Greg Unfortunately, "never again" remains more a hope than a reality throughout the world.