At this point I have to conclude that she was too good for this backwards-but-rich country.
A sign saying "Well qualified females need not apply," should be hung on the White House.
The USA might as well be a third world nation. In fact, many of those probably have higher aspirations for their people than we appear to have for ourselves.
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Her treatment of Bloomberg and false statements of her Indian heritage led me to vote for him. Shame on her. She’s a fraud among Washington’s frauds.
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Democrats unite behind Behind Biden. Get registered to vote. And save our and save our democracy
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She was our best chance to beat the president and she was the smartest of them all.
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She did what she was paid in 10 million dollars of superpac money to do.Split the progressives votes.Now she can leave a pariah of the left for the rest of history.
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The one thing on earth NYT commenters absolutely cannot blame Trump, McConnell and the Republicans for. But read the comments, you can sense they are dying tro do so anyway (Trump's misogyny doomed the Warren candidacy perhaps?)
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I thought that Ms. Warren was the best of the runners. She was honest and open, had good values and deep commitment. She “lost” last November when the NYT highlighted on the front page a column that said something like her health plan would cost 23 trillion dollars. She made a big mistake on this, but I thought the Times made it worse.
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United together with Biden
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Why Elisabeth Warren did not step out earlier?
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The minute the first policy paper appeared, her candidacy was headed to the exit.
I'm hoping now she returns to the good fight in the Senate. Please don't pull her out of the Senate and put her in a VP spot. Nationally, having two east-coasters at the top of the ticket won't sit well.
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The real lesson to girls is this:
Elizabeth Warren tried her best and lasted longer than most, including 21 men. As did Amy Klobuchar.
Both now know far more about America and Americans than they did before, and will be better at whatever they do next because of it.
Both will be rewarded with more opportunities to serve than if they had not run at all.
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"She exited on Thursday after her avalanche of progressive policy proposals, which briefly elevated her to front-runner status last fall, failed to attract a broader political coalition in a Democratic Party increasingly, if not singularly, focused on defeating President Trump."
WHY CAN"T WE HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO?
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Stop saying her loss reflects divisions in America. She was running for the nomination of the Democratic party. So whatever her failure reflects it reflects about the Democratic party not America.
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I think Warren would have made a much better President than Bernie. The fact that he does not seem to want to reign in the Bernie Bros says a lot to me. He has a campaign that has an underbelly of abusive behavior and Bernie does the minimum to speak up about it. He only answers questions when asked and of course he condemns it. But he has not spoken out at his campaign rallies and forcefully told these abusive supporters to stop or get out of his campaign. Why not? What does this say about Bernie? This seems to be more of a nuisance to him instead of a real problem.
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I am grieved and angry that the most qualified candidate who, like Hillary Clinton, is a woman, has been forced by squeamish voters to bow out. She was hampered by the steady drumbeat of media analysis in which she was either treated as an also ran or ignored completely. There is ample evidence pointing to the ingrained misogyny and sexism that is the fallback position in this country, but which is routinely dismissed as a victim mentality by those whose interests are most threatened at the prospect of a woman in power.
From the start of her campaign, I saw Elizabeth as the most competent person to not only repair the damage done to our country by the current corrupt administration, but also to steer us in stronger more workable directions that would have benefited everyone.
I hope she brokers her not insignificant support to advance the policies she so generously made available on her website.
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@Barbara Harman It pains me, saddens me, infuriates me that Amerikans are terrified of a woman running for president. Or a gay man for that matter. And look at what we ended up with. As I view the world from my rural and kind of backward bubble of Vermont, it is men, straight white men who have gotten us into the nightmare we are living in. Take your pick of the following or all of them: a misogynist, serial sexual predator, liar, grifter, homophobe, germaphobe, racist, ableist, xenophobe, miscreant. As I said, it pains me.
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Seth Meyers' comment nailed it. We still live in a male adolescent cowboy culture and resist growing up.
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Open Letter to Senator Warren,
Dear Elizabeth,
I am not happy that you and others have dropped out of the race. People believed in and voted for all of you. It appears that party leaders have decided the result in advance and that the "little people" will no longer not have a part in the decision.
Please endorse Bernie Sanders, closest in ideology to you, and preserve the one choice voters still have: between the establishment and the progressive, the right and the left wings of the Democratic Party.
Otherwise, the nomination will have been fixed before the Convention, the losing side will shout unfair and our energies will be dissipated against the forces of Trumpism. I will vote for the eventual nominee, but many will not be able to bring themselves to do so.
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The ticket I supported was the impossible dream. Michael Bloomberg for President and Elizabeth Warren for Vice President.
Of all the candidates they were most qualified to run the government. She then committed the act that some commend her for. She attacked Michael Bloomberg instead of Bernie Sanders.
It was an act of murder and suicide. Killing any chance of Michael Bloomberg moving forward and allowing Bernie Sanders to solidify his position as the progressive leader.
Sometimes you have to make friends with your supposed enemies. Compromise can work when the final cause is a better democracy.
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@eddiec The saying is real "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"....We have the same goal in mind. I would have loved a Bloomberg/Warren ticket. That would have been amazing. Also, she had plans, that could have been implemented. Such a shame.....
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If Warren doesn't throw her support to Joe Biden, she might as well join the Trump campaign.
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@H. Clark
If Warren doesn't throw her support to BERNIE, she might as well join the Trump campaign.
Fixed it for you.
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@H. Clark She needs to endorse Sanders.
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@H. Clark
If Warren doesn't throw her support to Bernie Sanders, she might as well join the Trump campaign.
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Warren was, and still is, the best candidate to not only beat Don the Con but also put this country on a better, healthier and sustainable future for us and our children.
As a society, we must educate our sons and daughters that women are also inspirational leaders who are capable, resilient, courageous and eloquent about our issues and how to go about fixing them.
Warren was all of that and more. Luckily, she will be around to hopefully lead a significant office under a new president. I trust that any new president replacing Trump will appreciate the extraordinary qualities of leadership and insight Warren possesses.
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@Leslie Duval
We need our Dem senators to stay in the senate. We cannot afford to have mitch mcconnel run the senate show any longer. mitch and trump together are disastrous for the country.
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It seems to me there are a couple of lessons that might be drawn...
There needs to be an upper age limit on candidates for the presidency. The easiest would be to say that the new president must be under 75 on the day of the inauguration. (It's appealing to suggest that they should be under 74 as that would also eliminate Donald Trump but 74 is regrettably not such a round number.) But as things are, the Democrat candidate will be 78 or 79 on that day. This is surely going to make them vulnerable during the campaign, not will suited to office and not sensibly able to stand for a second term.
And secondly, for the sake of the Democrats as a whole and their chances of winning, Sanders, Biden and Warren need to be deciding within the next day or so if Warren is going to be on one ticket or the other as VP. If she's not going to be on either ticket, she needs to announce that too.
@Londoner
Age 65 at the start of a President's first term should be the upper limit for being elected as President. The science regarding the decline of mental and physical abilities of older people is well understood. I am 68 and in excellent health and very active with advanced degrees and myself and all of my friends who are my age or older are losing physical and cognitive abilities and none of us have early dementia. It is ridiculous to have 75 and older men or women as President.
“Elizabeth Warren Drops Out of Presidential Race”
Warren should get back in the race by endorsing Biden. Biden will then make her his Vice President. Warren will be the first woman to hold this office, & Biden will get Republican women and young socialist's votes.
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Please, Elizabeth, stay in the Senate. We desperately
need you there.
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I don’t think it would be hard to keep a Democrat in that seat. Would be great to see her on the ticket in November! Perhaps she is the real moderate, consensus candidate.
"Ms. Warren confronted him onstage afterward, accusing him of calling her a “liar.” Relations have been chilly since."
They have been chilly. But the point I wish to make to Shane and Astead is that Ms. Warren's confrontation with Mr. Sanders was not begun with an assertive accuse, a 'J'accuse'. It was begin with an "I believe you may be ... trying to call me a liar" or words very close to that rendering of mine. You guys can watch the video. And I encorage you to do so because, up that point, I was marveling how powerfully accurate your article was striking me.
Let's hope Liz Warren is the next VPOTUS!
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"Ms. Warren, a senator and former law professor, staked her campaign on fighting corruption."
Well.. She did what she said, fought corruption by dropping out. Right "Pocahontas"? People can plainly see where the corruption lies, and Democrats will be remembered for farce Russian collusion and impeachment trials while Trump serves a another 4 years. And no, he won't be going to jail, or be "removed". You're boring us. How about doing something good for our country besides trying to remove the President we elected. And come up with a candidate that is about more than skin color and pandering to illegals.
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Once again, the USA displays its developmental delays. Warren was the best candidate we're likely to see for a while.
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I like many of her policy positions and she clearly had the most detailed plans of any candidate. She lost my vote by her constant pandering to every minority group while ignoring middle class issues like creating more, better paying jobs. The Democrats are going to lose this election if they, like Elizabeth Warren, keep promoting reparations and decriminalizing illegally entering or staying in the country. These issues are losing issues in battleground state’s like WI, OH, and PA.
Also, reparations will not solve racial discrimination. They will make discrimination worse when poor non-blacks are paying reparations to individuals higher up on the socio-economic ladder.
The best way to address discrimination is ruthless enforcement of equal opportunity and heavy financial penalties for discrimination in hiring, mortgage applications, school admissions, etc.
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Biden, Warren ticket seems a good fit for me. It is probably a step in the right direction as to getting a woman in the White House along with a good balance to repairing the division, not to mention the distrust the rest of the world has in us. It also rolls off the tounge nicely
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At her Cambridge doorstep, Warren speculated that her assumption there was a “Middle” lane alternative to Sanders’ “Progressive” and Biden’s “Moderate” paths to victory (of liberal Democratic principles over Trump’s version of Republican conservatism) was wrong. As others have pointed out, the manifesto of needed reform of the Democratic Party was borne out of the Harvard-based Democratic Renaissance Project (DRP) and its intellectual predecessors and progeny, whose successful “scholar-politicians” included Obama, Warren, Buttigieg, and (Katie) Porter. What the DRP and its Harvard-trained practitioners need to do to find the middle path to victory over Trumpism is to move out of the Green Zone of safety to win the real “battle of the streets.” I think Betsy from Oklahoma, rather than Professor and Senator Liz, will still do just that (perhaps as VP, Attorney General, or Secretary of Treasury - her choice - in a Biden or Sanders Administration) once she and her still redoubtable team help the default candidate of choice of the Democratic Party better define and embrace the populist Last Mile of Heartland America where most of the dispossessed live - and die. Betsy, it’s time to decide whom to endorse and then to move on. No more agonizing.
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Here's the bottom line: Democratic women voters don't always support Democratic women candidates.
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At her Cambridge doorstep, Warren speculated that her assumption there was a “Middle” lane alternative to Sanders’ “Progressive” and Biden’s “Moderate” paths to victory (of liberal Democratic principles over Trump’s version of Republican conservatism) was wrong. As others have pointed out, the manifesto of needed reform of the Democratic Party was borne out of the Harvard-based Democratic Renaissance Project (DRP) and its intellectual predecessors and progeny, whose successful “scholar-politicians” included Obama, Warren, Buttigieg, and (Katie) Porter. What the DRP and its Harvard-trained practitioners need to do to find the middle path to victory over Trumpism is to move out of the Green Zone of safety to win the real “battle of the streets.” I think Betsy from Oklahoma, rather than Professor and Senator Liz, will still do just that (perhaps as VP, Attorney General, or Secretary of Treasury - her choice - in a Biden or Sanders Administration) once she and her still redoubtable team help the default candidate of choice of the Democratic Party better define and embrace the populist Last Mile of Heartland America where most of the dispossessed live - and die. Betsy, it’s time to decide whom to endorse and then to move on. No more agonizing.
I supported Liz in this race early on. When her campaign clearly faltered, she should have thrown her support to Bernie (the way two establishment drop-outs endorsed Biden). The more important consideration is to elect a true progressive, not an establishment sell-out. If it is sexist to oppose a candidate because of her sex (or his), it is equally sexist to support a candidate because of her sex (or his). The candidate is supposed to represent everyone, not just members of one sex or the other. And if girls need a female president to be motivated, something is really wrong somewhere.
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Probably means Biden talked VP to her? She did not endorse Bernie in 2016. Still puzzles me. Other than that Iove her.
Respectfully, I completely disagree, based on my experience in this race, as a Warren supporter. One thing that was said to me several times, right off the bat, no preamble: “I won’t vote for a woman just because she’s a woman”. Why the need to make that clear?
I also heard “I really like her plans and think she’d be a great President, but I won’t vote for her because she’s a woman and can’t win”. That dropped my jaw a bit to hear that. And I heard complaints about Amy Klobuchar’s voice. And it was clear the main stream media was not even pretending to be impartial. Where was the considered reporting on plans, on policies? Pretty scanty.
Frankly, at this point, I also won’t vote for someone just because she’s a woman. But, I am bowing to reality, and will NOT vote for a man. Until women are equally represented, and I’ve voted for as many women as I have men. I’m done.
At her concession speech, Sen Warren lamented about little girls have to wait for a Madam President for another 4 years. Alas, gender alone should not be the only consideration.
I have voted for Ms Warren twice as my senator but I did not vote for her last Tuesday.
Evidently, I was not alone; her 3rd place showing has demonstrated how we from this Commonwealth are disappointed in her. She may not even get another term from me if she doesn't stop her demogoguery in the Senate.
In her ads, she tries to suggest she and President Obama were tight. No, she did not really help Mr Obama much during his presidency, never mind he was the one who elevated her profile
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A huge what if is what comes to my mind when I think about her candidacy.
I'm not a primary voter, so this to me is an interesting fight among Democratic primary voters. It seems Warren was most similar to Sanders. So why not her?
Yet, Sanders didn't do as well after South Carolina, thus leading to Biden's surge.
Is it about sexism or about the policies voters care about? Do Democratic primary voters want socialism/communism? As Mr. Blow explained in a recent opinion piece, it seems they want gradual change towards normalcy, not revolution.
Sexism, politics ... or fear?
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This is truly great news. Her policies were economically destructive; her demeanor divisive and polarizing. Take note Massachusetts GOP in 2024: she is politically wounded.
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We desperately need Warren in our fight against Trump. The fact that she is not heading a ticket any more shouldn't mean that she is out of the battle. I hope she continues to give us her wisdom and energy.
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She made an enormous difference for the good in the policy agenda -- let's elect Democrats up and down the ballot -- and then let's implement Warren's policy proposals, especially with respect to health care, taxes, and financial regulation.
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We never got to choose. Despite all the primary display, Elizabeth Warren never got to present her vision of how the rules could be changed to reassert the power of the Citizen/consumer in the age of corpro dominance.
She started so early and won a place in the top tier of our possible choices, but we never got the hour long TV interview where these "plans" could be displayed. Eventually, the grind of the tour reduced the message to meaningless sound bites and shrill took over. Warren's message was lost, once she resorted to personal attacks of the metoo mentality. May Biden and Warren find the wisdom and practicality to pair up for the campaign. Biden needs her economic populism and Warren would be able to show her abilities.
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Elizabeth Warren was my top choice for President in January 2019. I followed her campaign closely and attended a couple events in Iowa with my aunt Sally late last year. I view myself as a moderate Democrat. As I closely followed Elizabeth Warren’s campaign, I began to notice a problem with her campaign strategy. Senator Warren thought she was aligning her policy positions between the liberal Democrats and the moderate Democrats. In reality, folks like me and my aunt viewed her policy positions as squarely in the far left liberal part of the party. Healthcare for all, wealth tax on billionaires, etc. All issues that Bernie Sanders had champion so well. Senator Warren essentially became the Bernie lite candidate—If I stand for all the issues that Senator Warren promoted, I would vote forher highly paid campaign strategists should have aligned her closer towards the middle of the democratic field. If so, Aunt Sally and the majority of the Democratic voters in Iowa and across the country would have voted for her. Instead of dropping out of the campaign yesterday, she would’ve been the Democratic nominee for president I am confident. Her loss had nothing to do with the fact that she’s a woman, it had all to do with the campaign strategy mapped out by her advisors. Remember, she was leading the race last year but as the debate season progressed it became clear she was essentially Bernie lite.
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There will be a lot of handwringing as to why once again a woman can't be POTUS....
Well, we need to look no further than Bernie Sanders.
1] Had Bernie not divided the Dem party with his one-note divisive and nonsensical politics in 2016, HRC would have been POTUS and there would be only 3 token conservatives, heading to 2, on the SCOTUS.
2] Dems in 2020 way have been more likely to take a risk with nominating a woman.....etc.... a risk they are unprepared to take this yr.
3] In 2016, tens of thousand of Bernie supporters WENT to the poll in key states and did not vote for HRC, or any candidate, and there is no telling how many didn't go at all or voted for DJT.
Bernie Sanders has inflicted unmeasurable damage to the Dem party, which I think is his and his 30% fanatic base goal.
No Bernie; HRC is in the WH.
So Bernie is the reason why we don't have a woman POTUS.
"Enlightened times will enlighten only a small number of honest people, the vulgar masses will always be fanatics.”
Voltaire
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Agreed! Sander's loud and corrupt shout out of "Free" everything ruined Warren's opportunity to speak thoughtfully of change.
@timit
We don't fully agree
You miss the bigger picture, Warren is pocket change as to the damage Bernie has caused
"Elizabeth Warren, Once a Frontrunner, But We Showed Her!"
Sometimes this site needs help with its headlines.
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I would love to see the Times do some soul searching on how many stories it ran questioning her "electability," compared to, say, how many it ran subtly marveling at Pete's skills.
The media makes and controls this narrative, runs the idiotic debates (NO abortion questions? Seriously? With the Supreme Court so skewed and RBG so frail???) focusing on gotcha questions, and generally favors style over substance for the subject of its reporting.
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@JMF I so agree with this.
In a contest where Warren came off as a school marm and Sanders as your dotty old uncle with some crazy ideas, the latter beat out the former because it’s what we’re more comfortable with.
Is there some element of sexism there? Definitely.
Is it fair? Definitely not.
Is it reality? Most definitely so.
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The media's artificial fawning over Warren is also the exact same kind of compartmentalized coverage given to Trump that is responsible for propelling him into the White House.
There is a reason why Warren's campaign faltered: the candidates history of lying.
For anyone bothering to do a modicum of research of her background, Warren's reprehensible history of lying about being an "American Indian" cannot be swept under the rug.
And once she decided to run for president, a decision indicative of her psychological disconnect, she undertook another outlandish, easily proven LIE, i.e., that she was fired for being pregnant in previous employment.
When one looks at Warren's history of ridiculous lies one wonders why the media has chosen to ignore that aspect of her history (and character). The answer seems simple: she is female, as if that gives her a pass for displaying the grossest kind of character flaw, i.e. a pathological liar.
So, what is the media's excuse for its overlooking Trump's history of lies about himself during the 2016 campaign?
Doesn't lying about oneself matter anymore when electing people to the presidency or other high government office?
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She told too many fibs. About being a Native American to get better jobs, about only accepting small donations after she had exhausted all the big donors, about getting rid of fossil fuels after giving her oil stocks and royalties to her kids just before she started her campaign. At least she pointed out the hypocrisy of who is an Indian, the corrupt tribes decide, blood means nothing. And like Hilary she showed us that Americans don’t like policy wonks, we Democrat’s want pie in the sky, something for nothing promises.
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Just disappointed. Biden and sanders aren’t exactly inspiring.
Perhaps the timing wasn’t right and people’s obsession with beating trump outweighed why.
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This is her own fault and clearly an indication she is unfit for office. First there was the Native American scandal, then, she decided to be nice to bernie. Glad to see her campaign fail.
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Warren's failure to win has nothing to do with being a woman. I desperately want our first female President before I depart this earth. Initially, I supported her. But she began to wear on me, became tedious, with her I've-got-a-plan-for-everything, and her fight-fight-fight, her hatred of "gazillionaires," and her black leopard and sweaters. My 2 issues are healthcare-for-all with a private option, and the wellbeing of America's future, our children. I hope Warren uses her energy to further these causes.
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@Anne Russell Correction: not leopard, but leotard
@Anne Russell why do you care about her black leopard and sweaters? Bernie and Biden are the tedious weary ones but we don’t see it the same way.
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Warren represents the best of America and I'm sorry to see her go. But Democracy has prevailed in a political party which had many talented contenders. Biden, for better or worse, appears to be the future Democratic candidate to beat Trump. Beating Trump and the corruption he represents is the imperative. We need a RETURN TO DECENCY campaign and hopefully, the Biden campaign will understand that they don't have to answer to Trumps taunts & tweets. And Warren needs to be listened to.
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It’s hard to believe that the affects of Biden’s landslide win in South Carolina were less then a week ago and it has taken me awhile to digest all that’s quickly transpired since.
What I do know is our best hopes in making Trump a one term President lie in two men born when war was raging on three continents.
For women to be treated equally they have to perform superior.
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Remember, Biden did not win in the first 3 early states till South Carolina. There are reasons that voters in those early states,who had the unique opportunity and a lot of time to closely examine Biden, decided to reject him as the party's nominee. Historically, the first Caucus and Primary were designed to examine any presidential candidates closely, and No Candidate Who Finished Below Third In Both Iowa and New Hampshire Had Ever Been Elected The President Of United States. Normally, such campaign will go nowhere. But because the Establishment have no alternative to replace Biden, they have to unite and do his class work for him because he's a special student and they have low expectations for him. But That Means Disaster in November General Election if Biden is the Nominee. Once again, history shows that No Candidate Who Finished Below Third In Both Iowa and New Hampshire Had Ever Been Elected The President Of United States. Those who ignore history are on the path of destruction. If Biden is the Nominee, prepare thyself for disappointment and snatching of teeth the night of November 2020 general election.
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Where were all these women who supposedly wanted a woman for President when she was running? The simple fact of the matter is she wasn’t drawing the votes, of women or men. And before you come back at me screaming “sexism,” I’ve already voted for a woman for President of the United States. But she couldn’t draw the support of women either. The problem is not in our starts, but in ourselves.
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Sanders beat Warren by pitting the liberal so-called elite against working class Americans. He said she only appeals to educated voters. In doing this, he himself is the one who played the identity card, with respect to class, not her. It is rightly really problematic that you would say and think a woman can't be President, and then do what you can to bring that about by calling her an elite. This seems to be a criticism that is levelled at women; people said that about Hilary too. I am hesitant to support a candidate who uses these tactics.
I think Warren should have just directly addressed his smoke and mirrors at the next debate by using her biography.
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Apart from that, I think her message ended up getting lost, and that is simply that she truly is the bridging candidate:
-someone with a hard scrabble background who pulled herself up, and understands the concerns of people who are struggling and will fight for them -- her disability plan being just one example
-someone from the Midwest who moved to the East
-a capitalist who wants to put limits on the banks and runaway wealth, and so can legitimately appeal to the moderate and liberal wings.
This is all gold, and I am disappointed that she allowed herself to get pulled in by Bernie's dishonesty. In her regrouping if she decides to try again in four years, I think she should more clearly emphasize these points. Because she really is the best.
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@Erin Calling a woman an elite is a way of characterizing a disadvantage (gender) as a privilege (class), when she was not campaigning on it.
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Support for Warren evaporated quickly principally because her supporters held political views which were never well thought out in the first place. We all see clearly how profound was her support.
Even in her home State of Massachusetts she came in a very poor 3rd in the Democratic primary there. It is virtually unprecedented for a presidential candidate to be so poorly supported in his or her own State.
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Please explain to me how a Warren Presidency, or even a Sanders Presidency, would ever get even one item of their "radical agendas" passed by both of your two Houses of Congress ?
Even a Trump Party dominated Congress failed to repeal the allegedly hated Obamacare. Faced with this institutional reality, I can't for the life of me understand why any conscientious American citizen would give any serious consideration to either Sanders or Warren's campaign platforms, no matter how appealing some of their suggested changes might be.
Surely politicians promoting radical change can only succeed in implementing even some of their agendas in a "parliamentary democracy" system such as exists in Canada or Great Britain, where the party which wins a majority of seats in our Houses of Commons can act like Putin until the next election, passing whatever legislation it chooses, with the checks and balances being largely limited to legal ones - e.g. the Provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan are currently challenging the constitutionality of the federal Liberal party's Carbon Tax legislation in the Courts.
It seems your founding men were determined not to follow the British model in this regard...
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From a marketing point of view Warren aimed to be a Sanders without the sharp edges - copying many of his positions. But she made some crucial mistakes:
- her alternative health insurance proposal was a disaster. She should just have stated that what Sanders proposes is a good proposal that works in many other countries but that this seems unreachable in the US at the moment. She should have left it open for negotiations how the final law should look like.
- her attack on Sanders claiming that he had stated that a woman couldn't win was dumb in many ways. It was an attack on someone who was in many ways close to her, it was impossible to prove and quite likely not exactly what Sanders had meant. And it was an attempt to play identity politics for an audience that is sick of identity politics and wants a focus on hardcore economic issues.
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You could say Warren was winning until she unveiled the nuts and bolts of her Medicare for All. Was it sexist that she had to explain her plan while Bernie as of today hasn't explained his? Women as do people of color seldom get a pass for missteps. Could she have survived if she did as Bernie and not really have a plan? As a guy I will tell the world I don't think she got a fair shake.I am wondering what is it called when women don't support a woman because she is a woman? The glass ceilings are not only constructed by men.
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Wonderful to see the media covering her campaign now that it's over.
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Elizabeth Warren’s collectivist, redistributionist. “progressive” message was embodied in a shrill, hectoring, overly gesticulating persona. Her passionate supporters will embrace Bernie in no time flat. Her endorsement is not worth much at all, and her selection as a vice presidential nominee will turn off more voters than it attracts.
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@J. Jones :
I hate to admit it, but your assessments and observations are spot-on in this case . . .
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Elizabeth Warren was probably the smartest candidate, and her granular, highly developed policies eventually pushed her to the top of the pack. Unfortunately, they also gave her competitors and enemies all the ammunition they needed to destroy her candidacy. Plus, her inability to resolve policy problems quickly and adequately (e.g., Medicare for All), further eroded her support.
Once Warren’s overly developed policies were released, I think she could have then softened them to make them more palatable. For example, by sticking to Medicate for All (MFA), she backed herself into a corner from which she could not extricate herself. Instead, if she had said MFA would probably provide the most efficient healthcare system, in the meantime restoring Obama Care with a public option would eventually deliver the US something close to government funded healthcare for all citizens. Instead, she got locked into explaining how to fund it without raising taxes.
Now the Democrats have two very old candidates - of course Trump is old too - with lots of weaknesses. The only way a Democrat can win is if Trump generates enough antipathy that everyone who hates him votes him out of office, even if the Democrats ran a pig for president.
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She was a good candidate, if not the best.
She eventually became the sacrificial lamp for the unruly Bernie & Co.
A question from Europe. A small precision, I am well to do, decently educated woman with great job.
The calls for ms.Warren from her supporters to endorse mr. Biden are mildly put puzzling to anyone who has supported her for her program and not only for her gender. The excuse of me. Sanders “calling her a liar” is an exactly an excuse, seen that she herself has put it behind her with her reminder yesterday that she and mr. Sanders are friends. Of a very old date. Friends who share very similar positions and programs both of which are the opposite of the spectre mr.Biden program represent.
Mr. Biden has the massive support from ms.Warren archenemy Wall Street and lately mr. Bloomberg one, for whom ms.Warren has shown an utter distaste.
Let me remind you that in 2016, ms.Sanders pleaded with ms.Warren to represent her self as the progressive candidate and she refused. Which proves the level of trust and support mr. Sanders has for her.
Are her supporters in fact asking her to betray everything she stands for? On top of her bowing out, is she to leave behind her all her principles and her program for show of unity even if it will cost her long build progressive credentials and work?
In condition that mr. Biden is definitely not certain to win against Trump as any further major gaffe of his might erode his representability?
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Another important issue to consider from her campaign:
if not supplying an immediate answer to a
HOW question about financing a complex program,
was detrimental to her needed support, HOW do we
educate people to quest, and engage with,
critical necessary questions which effectively challenge
answers which drive too early closure of explorations.
Ms. Warren, in her quest to become the Democratic Presidential Candidate, accomplished only one uncomfortable truth....she used her talents to destroy the possibility or even the probability of the only candidate that would beat Trump....Bloomberg. I believe that many Americans would've voted for him as for the most part had not any idea about his 'sins', nor did they care, however after her public denouncement of the man, their second thoughts became the reason for his and the country's loss.
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It is sad, but she did not win a single state, or get the highest vote count or delegate count. She lost her own state. Any other reason is made up spoiled milk. She ran and lost fair and square. She was gracious in stepping down and i hope that is a wonderful reminder for when you fight as hard as you can, but alas, it didn't work out.
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Warren should endorse Biden? Seriously?
Up until recently, Biden has been telling voters who posed perfectly legitimate questions of him to go vote for someone else -- and that has not been his only lapse. Now we're supposed to believe these lapses were due to a stutter?
The sudden cavalcade of endorsements and behind-the-scenes pressure shows us the effect Trump has had on the election: even Biden sounds eminently competent by comparison. If we had a normal president, Biden would not be a viable challenger.
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I hope Elizabeth Warren does NOT endorse a candidate, and instead devotes her energy to getting down-ballot candidates elected. The decision by her supporters to use their time to support Marie Newman gives me hope that she'll do just that.
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I was impressed with Warren from the days when she was a Harvard Law professor and took a close look at credit card companies' policies.
She noted how their user agreements were not only difficult for 3rd year Harvard Law School students to decipher, but nearly impossible for the majority of customers who do not have the benefit of a legal education. More importantly, she raised awareness that these terms were designed at a distinct disadvantage to consumers, most of whom had little choice but to agree with them in order to gain access to credit.
Warren's role in helping to create the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was a great service to ALL Americans regardless of political stripe. The only ones who might not like it are the banks and credit card companies, but the average consumer benefits greatly.
There will definitely be a role worthy of her knowledge and passion in the coming years and I look forward to her continued contributions.
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She wasn't just the best of the 2020 slate -- she was the best candidate of my lifetime (b. 1961).
Progressive but also pragmatic, cordial, and professional -- it was easy to imagine her at global summits and conferences (Sanders, not so much).
I am grieving; my heart hurts.
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I was a Warren supporter from the outset and have followed her work for years since Two Income earner trap and occasional TV appearance. The key for me is her Roosevelt like trustbuster emphasis on making markets work. Creating the CFPB which refunded $13 billion to consumers who were defrauded. Heck she even took on the hearing aide cartel. Who knew there was one?
If she’s still on the ballot here in NY I’ll give her the vote if not then it’s Joe Biden for me.
Anything that removes the incompetent, lawless excuse of a man and his offspring from the White House because the nation’s health and democracy is at stake.
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Sadly, I believe the Republican nominee is the reason Warren is out. Rather than assessing candidates’ competencies, it is all about “who can beat Trump.” In a sane world, Warren would annihilate Trump. Other than personal wealth, she outranks and outperforms him on every relevant competency metric. Plus, she’s neither a pathological liar nor a corrupt narcissist.
However, it was a woman who “lost” to Trump four years ago (despite millions more in the popular vote). The nightmare of this current presidency must end, and for many voters if there is any chance the woman issue would again be manipulated by Trump and somehow lead to her defeat, they can’t handle it again. They feel he must be beaten, so let’s make the safest choice.
Elizabeth Warren was my choice for the nomination. I am depressed at today’s announcement. If it was to be down to one progressive and one moderate, she surely deserved the progressive slot. Bernie won’t release his medical records, and provides only sketchy details on his plans for bringing about the huge goals he espouses. His Castro literacy comments are just the tip of the iceberg. Warren wants to go after corruption, rebalance taxation, un-rig capitalism for the average worker. Sanders wants to just blow it up.
Let’s go Joe! It’s time to get behind the last person standing with a realistic path to victory. How I wish it was Elizabeth. But there is no time to wallow. Trump must be defeated.
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I thought Elizabeth Warren was a formidable candidate and a viable candidate, but Bernie again managed to blur another female candidate ! and Unfortunately, we are not living in a sane world either !
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Sad, but the ideas warren is pushing will become the norm in the near future, so her fight is not for nought. Thank you senator Warren.
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Man plans, god laughs
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Respect to Elizabeth Warren, she’s intelligent, strong and honest.
From a recent piece in #NewYorkTimes .
No wonder the Trump and Bernie (while I respect and like him) supporters online sound the same and spew the same rhetoric against Joe.
“And if you are trying to sow chaos in an a vitriolic election, Mr. Putin can hardly hope for better than a face-off between an incumbent with a history of race-baiting who is shouting “America First” at rallies — while suggesting that the coming election is rigged — and a democratic socialist from Vermont advocating a drastic expansion of taxes and government programs like Medicare.
“Any figures that radicalize politics and do harm to center views and unity in the United States are good for Putin’s Russia,” said Victoria Nuland, who in a long diplomatic career had served both Republican and Democratic administrations, and had her phone calls intercepted and broadcast by Russian intelligence services.”
Read it here - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/russia-election-meddling-trump-sanders.html?
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Donald Trump used to call her POCAHANTUS.
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@Trevor Diaz Well, he couldn't sensibly answer any coherent arguments - and she had plenty. There are plenty of Trumpists here today (not to mention Putin trolls sowing discord) STOP it you guys, this is too important!
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Elizabeth was my candidate. Smart, funny, direct, concise and compassionate. Now my choice and voice must be tailored to one of two elderly white gentlemen who helped block her way. I will vote for one or the other in order to remove a despicable thug from the White House. A fake authority who desecrates our constitution and country. I will vote to do that.
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it is a sexist country.
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My two cents: Biden / Warren is the winning ticket.
Klobuchar or Buttigieg as VP: Biden already has the centrists;
Abrams or Kamala or Booker as VP: he already has the African-American vote;
The rest aren’t viable (though personally I like Sherrod).
We need to unite the progressives and the centrists ... and so I say the winning ticket is Biden / Warren.
As to Biden / Bernie... that wouldn’t work as Bernie - based on his years of record - isn’t much of a collaborator. Nor a deliverer.
If my party were interested in and committed to inclusion of diverse ideas and agendas, Biden/Warren would be the best ticket!
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Can we do a Joe + Elizabeth ticket? Please, god?
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With her fine mind, she'd make a great supreme court justice.
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I like and respect Warren and thought she would make the best president. I badly wanted her to bridge the gap between Biden and Sanders; to position herself as a pragmatic progressive who had a vision of big structural change but the realism to know that you can't remake American society in every direction at once. But she never made that move to be the unifier, or at least not in a way that was convincing to a pragmatist like myself. It seemed she spent the early months of the campaign trying to prove that she was as purist as Bernie, while Buttigieg and later Klobuchar filled the space that Warren should have dominated. Why she didn't position herself as the pragmatic alternative to Bernie will be, for me, one of the enduring mysteries of this election.
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Maybe the Democratic Party is the thing that needs to be remade. Joe Biden? Seriously?
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Democratic Party can be remade or reshaped, but the Republican Party ought to be disbanded for all their crimes since they lined up behind trump to further Putin’s agenda !
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Of course, Seriously Democratic Party !
The thing I liked best about Senator Warren's proposals was that she always said we should "ask" the rich to pay higher taxes. How could anybody object to that? The problem would have been if the taxes were compulsory, with, you know, liens and jail sentences if the rich didn't answer yes to her very polite request that they pay more.
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Elizabeth Warren was the best candidate that we had.
Why? She is a true liberal in the true sense of the word: collaborative, compassionate, with the ability to work within the existing framework to deliver on promise.
Why didn’t she get traction? Was she too shrill? Was she unelectable? Not relatable?
No. It’s because we are a sexist nation at heart.
Proof: Bernie and Liz have similar platforms. The difference between them is that Liz offers pragmatic plans. Bernie offers a pie in the sky, no realistic plans.
Yet Bernie gets traction. We’ve sold ourselves short.
I’m hoping for a Biden / Warren ticket - best way to unite my party, a buncha cats who need to be herded.
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Bernie’s pie in the sky appeals to the 18-29 demographic. That’s his base. Is that generation more sexist than its parents’ generation?
Off the top of my head - she MUST endorse one or another? May I submit, unity is crucial - more and more "enthusiasts" are retreating into their corners. Her weight may well be game-changing, and also divisive from the comments below. "A vote for Trump" or "A cynical sell-out to big Pharma"
Not enviable alternatives. No, please, to the best candidate, try to be a bridge and ask both sides to support whichever wins. For the sake of America and the free world.
PS: to VoA, David et al - you want flawless candidates? Look at N Korea and other places with 99% popular "votes"
"A vote for trump?" shakes head in despair...
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Let us hope Warren will endorse Biden, cannot afford to have “socialism” as an excuse to put trump again in the White House !
Warren can wait to put her endorsement behind whomever takes the lead in a week or two. That way her supporters will also support the nominee. This is smart for the Democrats and smart for the country.
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Has anyone else chatting here speculated about whether or not some or even many voters might have followed DJT’s call to loyalists to vote for the weakest candidate? To change party affiliation so they could vote for someone he’s not afraid of?
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What I wish would happen: Warren leverages endorsement for Bernie for VP slot. They campaign together, uniting progressives more. Bernie agrees to only serve 1 term if elected, so VP Warren can run again in 2024.
(One can dream)
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@Nathaniel this is my dream too
I am just so fed up with the patriarchy.
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Heartbreaking. I'm so over America.
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I'm sad to see Elizabeth Warren bow out. In many ways, she has been the candidate with the highest character and the best set of ideas and policies to carry out the kind of transformational change the country needs. A return to so-called "normalcy" would be a nice relief after the destructive madness and corruption of Trump but would not in itself do anything to resolve the many problems we face, from healthcare to immigration reform to growing economic and social inequality. She is the most decent, thoughtful and fitting person to lead the country.
Her departure says most about the continuing polarization, dysfunction and gender inequality in the country. Someone else in this section cited Warren's supposed dishonesty, but that's a gross distortion along with a dishonest take in viewing male vs female candidates. Her claim to some Native American heritage was not a "ruse," and her explanation should have settled it. I was disappointed that she didn't answer the question about whether middle income people would see a tax increase under her plans--not just a net benefit after all factors are calculated in--but she did not alienate sensible and progressive voters overall. Those who seek to disparage her by cherry-picking three or four supposedly damning aspects of her candidacy are looking for easy excuses and hiding their gender bias. Warren deserves to be president and would have done an excellent job when we really need it.
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@TRJ This maybe twenty first country, but this country is not ready to put a woman in the White House. People support and elect a dishonest and immoral person like Trump, even when they see that he is destroying this country, but not a woman. I’m sorry Elizabeth Warren didn’t make it, but I hope she supports one of the 2 standing candidates and ask her supporters to do the same thing, maybe we can defeat Trump.
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@TRJ I hope she is the V. P. on the ticket, and perhaps she should not endorse either Biden or Bernie so either one can choose her. Imagine the energy and organization she could bring to the job.
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@BB I can't believe we're not ready after a woman won the popular vote, but lost the election due to her own utter failure to campaign adequately or at all in key states. But it does seem that where an ostensibly good-enough man or two is available, we'll take him over a brilliant, accomplished and potentially unifying and galvanizing woman.
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America does not deserve her.
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True
We deserve much better
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A dishonest politician ! She was a screamer with no character substance. Debating to her was who could get the most airtime. Nothing else.
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Pocahontas we hardly knew ye!
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I feel Sanders should talk to Warren and ask her to endorse Biden in return for a position in the cabinet where she can wield her progressive ideas.
And then, Sanders should do the same too. As sad as I am to say this, this is not the moment for progressives. America is just not ready to accept socialism and one has to work within the system to affect a change over time...
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I hope she doesn’t endorse anyone. Now my choices are between strident Sanders or burned out Biden. Two old white guys whose redeeming virtue is neither are Trump the terrible Twitter troll. All three of the women I would have been happy to see emasculate Trump have dropped out. This is kinda sad. All three top candidates for 2020 are old white guys, none of which have grown or moved past their entrenched pasts. Conservatives hate Sanders, liberals hate Trump and the consensus candidate is the financial classes current favorite democrat Joe Biden. Words cannot express how I feel, at least words that will pass the comments censors. How about some asterisks instead ****************, that’s better eh.
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Once a front runner? Not once, not ever. One good debate did not make her a front runner.
Joe Biden has been the front runner from day one. Bernie has outspent Biden by almost four to one. Biden is, has been, and will continue to be the front runner.
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He also might have signs of early dementia.check back in two years.
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Let’s not be cruel. He had a severe stutter when young.
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@Brian -- In what world was Biden ever the front runner? His first-place finish in Iowa? No, wait, that was fourth. Or fifth. No, that was New Hampshire. Ok, they're white states, so they don't count. His fundraising? I believe Andrew Yang was doing better. Polling? Barely enough to qualify for the debates. His bang-up performance in the debates? Uh, no. His speeches at town halls? Was that the one where he angrily challenged a questioner to push-ups? Or his endless reminiscing about his son? Not the one with the financial and drug problems, the other one... Of course he is the frontrunner now, resurrected by the DNC -- he is the entrenched party guy, mediocre and malleable.
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Senator Warren didn’t come close to winning a single primary or caucus, and she lost her own state by a huge margin. I’m don’t think we should blame the DNC or sexism for her considerable deficits as a candidate who never had a path through the electoral college to the presidency.
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Yeah, defects like being a woman
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I proudly voted for her and I really hope that four years from now she’ll have another shot at it and all of us who supported her will support her again. As a woman who’s had to prove myself many times over the course of my career when my voice was ignored or talked over by men, I know exactly what she’s talking about. Even when you have the best plans and ideas you still have to fight twice harder to prove yourself. And forget about crying foul, they’ll just tell you you’re a sensitive woman who complains too much. It infuriates me to hear Sanders’ supporters telling her to quit and endorse him. It’s like I get flashbacks from when I’m told to step aside to give way to some man because we have “the same ideas”. What even makes his supporters think that her supporters are necessarily going to vote for him instead. It’s 2020 and here we are still talking about gender and race as qualifiers for electability. Geeezzz...
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Sorry to generalize but in the main her supporters are independent thinkers. Her influence is thereby limited.
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Some say she's in line to be Biden's VP. I say that's a bad idea. Her historical moment is over, and she's lost much of the popularity she had at one time. She won't help the ticket. My advice? Go away and be quiet.
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@Antoine what a lovely message you’re sending to women: “go away and be quiet”.
Reminds us of something a certain Mitch McMconnell said to our dear Sen. Warren 3 years ago.
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Corporate media wants the illusion of a fight. The establishment wants the illusion of being progressive. Warren will quietly cede her delegates to Biden after the cheating steals the headlines at a contested convention and we watch the pledged delegates sell the soul of our nation. Or do they?
The real question is will the working people of our nation and all the Bernie delegates sit and take it? I don’t think we will. The Democratic National Committee either gives up their job to Bernie or they get overthrown by Bernie delegates. There’s too much at stake to take the tainted money while we lose our blood and soil.
The choice is down to the establishment man who panders the black vote while passing the most racist drug laws with Strom Thurman that locked up more black Americans on drug offenses than any other laws... the VP to the deporter-in-Chief...
Or the man who walked with Dr. King and bravely introduces the laws to free the poor from criminalizing poverty and votes against costly contrived wars for the wealthy, who stands up to the fossil fuel industry and the military Congressional industrial complex.
🎵It takes a revolution
Just to make a solution
Too much confusion
Not enough salvation
Don’t want to live in the park
Caint trust no shadows after dark
But how I wish that we could see
The prisoners must be free
Never trust a politician
To grant you a favor
He’ll always want you
To be in debt to him forever🎶
-Robert Nesta Marley
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Too smart, compassionate, and not male. Sorry I didn't have the chance to vote for her.
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IMHO Warren would have made the best POTUS. That's it. The course of human event flows in mysterious ways.
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"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Quoted from Senator Ted Kennedy's concession speech to Jimmy Carter at the 1980 Democratic Convention.
In his speech Kennedy address universal health care, the ERA, unfair taxation that benefits the wealthy, the revitalization of our economy for workers, a need for clean energy, a clean environment, and not smaller or larger but better government. Even forty years after the Reagan revolution, nevertheless she persisted.
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She was a much better candidate than I ever expected. I could see my self voting for here. But, by definition, I don't see how some could call her the ”best candidate” when she lost in a fair competition.
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The best candidate but the worst electorate. I suppose you would say Trump was best candidate because he won. Hard to argue with that.
In any event being best candidate doesn’t correlate with being best president.
We need desperately a better electorate.
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@Clint Broule Just informed, thinking, and hoping not hating would do.
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@Clint Broule
Trump pandered to an aggrieved political base, lied about his opponents including Hillary Clinton, and he cheated with the help of the Russians. And because Trump's behavior as a candidate was an accurate prediction of his behavior as the president, we're all suffering the consequences.
Yes. We desperately need a better electorate.
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Given that St. Bernie’s essential theory depends on reducing everything to a purely-economic base and reducing every concern for gender or for race or for culture to that economic base...
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@Robert
to be happy and to have time for all those correct nice ideals you mention, you must have full stomach.
Obviously you have it, but not all are like you.
That's why the economic base is the foundation you have to build first.
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Based upon many of the comments posted in response to this article, which suggest that a substantial number of Elizabeth Warren’s supporters would support Sanders over Biden even if she were to endorse Biden, the suggestion that Biden should be willing to offer Warren something of value (e.g., VP) in exchange for an endorsement is perplexing. Given that virtually all supporters of Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg are now expected to hold their noses and support Biden for the Democratic nomination, and given that approximately half of Warren’s supporters can now be expected to do the same regardless of whether she explicitly endorses Biden, I don’t think Biden needs to or should be expected to offer her much. Elections are not generally about having an opportunity to vote for someone that you love or respect and ensuring that, if they fail, they’ll have a cushy landing. Elections are generally about having an opportunity to hold your nose and vote for someone who appears to have the best shot at defeating someone that you hate or fear, however weak that shot might be.
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the party needs to move left. biden’s a rhino. vp or cabinet warren makes the democrat tent bigger. it will include west coast progressives.
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@James R.
her issues were clearly on the left, not in the centre.
Further - Joe would not let her to carry out her fight with Wall Street etc. They would have done it with Obama.
She would be a decoration, alone against Joe and the establishment.
She must make a deal with Bernie - or Bernie with her - to be a full time executive VP.
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No matter how you judge Senator Warren's political views, she would be a greater leader than what we currently have in the White House. It appears that America is not ready for a woman who is not afraid to hide her strength--that being smart.
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@M This endless drumbeat of "Gender" is so pointless. Obviously the right woman could become President. Even Hillary, who was profoundly unpopular in many quarters, gained 3 million more votes than Trump. Unfortunately they weren't the right votes. And as smart as Warren is, she was not smart enough to present herself and her ideas in a palatable way. To much body language, too emphatic, too many gestures, too strident. Nice dog though.
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@M
A person is not "smart" when they self immolate their prospects of success with a series of compounded lies and ridiculous policy proposals.
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A woman must hide her strength. It’s a theme in the Old Testament.
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Elizabeth Warren is too smart and earnest for American voters. Overall people want something simpler, with less practical details and reality. When people ask for explanations from politicians, they don't really want to know the facts, they want to be comforted and/or inspired. Senator Warren respects voters and answers honestly, giving as full an answer as possible. Perhaps this is a female quality, a sense of responsibility and selflessness.
Elizabeth Warren gave it her "all" and elevated the political discourse. Of all the candidates, I believe that her candidacy is the most complex and worthy of future consideration. Does she need to endorse another candidate? I am not sure. Senator Warren is neither moderate nor radical. I appreciate her hesitation.
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Funny, I like her so much more now that she’s dropped out.
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We are supposedly the "greatest" country in the world. Is a contest for President between two old white men with dementia and both pushing 80 really the best we can do? Are we so terrified that a gay man or a woman or another black man would have no chance that we fall back on old white men? This country is so behind civilized countries, it's embarrassing.
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@CKM. Compared to what country is the US so awful?
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@CKM The problem is really a failure of representative democracy. When this is the best we can come up with, either Democrat or Republican, the voters turn to authoritarian demagoguery and rule by executive order.
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@Vince I'll answer that. How about Sweden, Denmark, Norway and France? Probably a few more.
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I guess we’re gonna let the middlemen continue to double our healthcare costs.
What a racket.
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It's not the middle men that cause our healthcare to be doubled. That's the dirty little secret let no one who talks about single-payer mentions. You have to convince all the hospitals and doctors to take way less money than they are now.
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The medical industrial complex includes many more people than doctors and hospitals. Doctors are being transformed into factory workers. Burnout and suicide. Google it.
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Duplication of medical equipment—EXPENSIVE equipment—and services. Why have not one regional radiology service rather every hospital and clinic investing your insurance dollars to compete with each other? Why is there competition in healthcare at all?
I keep reading abut misogyny and punishing competence. These are ideas coming from a closed environments recirculating ideas in editorial rooms that lost touch with the real world. As someone who voted for Hillary, I am just saying this: Warren was plain unpleasant to listen and watch to. The factors that get mentioned can't be the reason for almost zero traction with the electorate. She is messaging to a small niche that will never grow.
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To all those women who were waiting on the sidelines to see how far Elizabeth could get on her own before you got down into the trench and fought for her too - shame on you.
And shame on me.
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@K.B.
Why?
Warren could not market herself properly. You are clearly blaming others for Warren's own shortfalls.
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Not fond of the way Sanders supports guns and was against the Brady Bill. Sanders will do whatever his people who vote for him want. He always tried to downplay his gun votes. He is annoying and a hypocrite, a Democrat when he is running for President and an Independent the rest of the time. People saw that and I hope that Warren withholds her endorsement for anyone until the nomination.
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"Sanders will do whatever the people who vote for him want." Isn't that what elected officials are supposed to do?
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@DLN
Sanders made a mistake and admits it.
His vote against Brady was cast long before the school massacres happened.
Geez every time I want to love Warren, the fawning of the press including the Times makes me sick. ‘Senator...it is clear you were the best candidate...what went wrong?’ The press continues to act like she is the only one with ideas, the only one who had passionate supporters, the only one who is smart. She is not off putting..the fawning over her during this process has been.
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She should run as Biden’s VP.
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Elizabeth Warren's announcement that she is exiting the race for president breaks my heart. She's far and away the most qualified candidate, head and shoulders above Bernie and Biden. It's appalling to realize how much misogyny still plays a crucial role in our lives--in politics, in the economy, and in most professions.
We have a long way to go to achieve the status of being "civilized". I just hope that Elizabeth Warren will have an important role to play.
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The power that Warren has just stepped into is palpable in the comments here. It's like someone died and now everyone is fighting over the spoils. Can someone explain to me how you can admire Warren's integrity and then go on about what she should do or who she should endorse? I think there may be an oxymoron in there. Warren's integrity - thank goodness - is not a weathervane that spins towards the hot air of NYT readers.
I don't care whether Warren endorses or joins Biden or Sanders or neither. I just hope she gets thanked for what she's done all along, namely to stand up for what she thinks is right.
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The article overstates Warren’s influence on the race. But the key takeaway is too large a segment of the Democratic Party doesn’t find her like able and a segment of the Democratic Party concluded her plans and promises (erase student debt, medical debt, invest billions into impoverished areas, not raise taxes on the middle class) were nothing more than standard politician snake oil.
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One problem re Elizabeth Warren as VP: Massachusetts has a Republican governor, Charlie Baker, who would replace Elizabeth Warren with a Republican senator, thereby adding a Republican seat. Minnesota has a Democratic governor, Tim Walz, who would replace Amy Klobuchar with a Democratic senator.
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Warren's path started disappearing as soon as Bernie, ever-insistent that the nomination was stolen from him, set his eyes on revenge.
She would not have been popular with Bernie's Rogan-Chapo bros, but you see, the oldest man ever to run for president had a heart attack.
A heart attack. Not a fainting spell. After which he has refused to release relevant medical records, no matter how his gaslighters spin it.
Can we think of a better, more convenient, more compelling, more face-saving reason for him to withdraw and rally behind Warren?
After all, it's about the movement, right? Not a savior, as AOC might chime in. #NotMeUs
Bernie could have passed the torch to an energetic debate champ --a woman whose confidence and competence should not be likened to his stubborn grumpiness. A former teacher, a mom, a grandma, who single-handedly canceled the purchase of the country's top office by the ninth-richest man in the world.
Had Bernie given he given her his floor, Warren could have very well shattered that glass ceiling.
Meanwhile at House Bernie, the Revolution isn't looking all that strong, and AOC suddenly wants to "build with Warren.'
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@Mikki
Bloomberg gained voters after her attacks. This idea that she destroyed him is self indulgent. If you read the feedback in this column, she turned more off by attacking him (this was what drowned her actually). Bloomberg is a nice guy, same as Gates and Buffet are. Not all billionaires are evil. We should be grateful that we have the three of them: Bloomberg paid US pledge to protect the environment to the UN, Buffet gave all his money to Gates, and Gates fights to eradicate diseases. How much money Warren donated and for what cause?
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@Euxinus
If you read the New York Times closely, you would know Bloomberg, Buffet, and Gates are not nice guys at all. And the Times is one of the few papers that reported the full story on Gates's association with Epstein.
To understand the full breadth of Gates's promotion of GMOs and synthetic chemo-agriculture, you might need to read other languages.
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My G-d.
Who cares whether we get a woman President, a Jewish one, an Eskimo one or even one who is a cannibal?
We are trying to rid ourselves of a man who is ruining this country.
When that gets done, I will be in favor of a Constitutional Amendment stipulating that our next 46 Presidents must all be women.
Meanwhile, let’s keep our eye on the ball.
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Warren for Veep.
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@Alex Bernardo she will destroy the ticket.Lier lier your house is on fire.
Not my view. She can help unify progressives and moderates to defeat Trump.
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I’ve been saying for months that no one wants a finger wagging school marm for president.
I’ve also been saying that Biden will lose in a landslide if he is the nominee. He will also act as a drag on the down-ballot candidates. The notion that Biden is more “electable” is nonsense.
To get elected, a candidate must have an inspiring message. That candidate is Bernie Sanders. If Bernie is nominated and Stacey Abrams joins him on the ticket, Bernie will win. In addition, Stacey will be the first woman president.
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@Braxton
Really?? No one wants a “schoolmarm” and yet you say Sanders is electable? No one is more hectoring
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Finger wagging? Are you serious? Sanders is the champion on finger wagging! It’s amazing the hypocrisy of some people!
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I hate to break it to y’all, but Americans are not all as smart as you NYT readers. Warren had a bit of Kerry’s problem—loftiness. I hear that y’all liked her wonky plans; it was too much getting lost in the weeds for a lot of people. Then the media asked her to make the math work. She was the only A student to tackle that, and it crashed her lead. She should have said, “We’ll put forward the boldest plan we can get through Congress.” Shame on the media for holding her to a different bar than the men. Voters didn’t need all that detail. Bernie Sanders surged ahead with a high school level message. (It’s still too complicated if I have to hear the word “socialism” one more time.)
I truly hope Warren won’t sacrifice her progressive voice. She is strongest when she is true to herself. I think she and Bernie, if they joined hands, could balance each other out in a beautiful way. He needs to drop some ideological baggage and she could provide the grounding to his poetic vision. We all need some healing.
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"that a Democratic field that began as the most diverse in American history — and included six women — is now essentially down to two white men"
30 diverse candidates all interesting, most competent, and extremely diverse has been narrowed to two.
One candidate representing the liberal wing of the party and the other representing the establishment.
Both deserving of their continued position because of wise choices made to put them where they are today.
Both male (in a diverse field)
Both caucasian (in a diverse field).
I am disappointed that both Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar did not go further.
I accept the wisdom of the democratic voters up to know and the previous 28 candidates who by withdrawing have made their choice.
God bless the democratic party.
God bless the "white men" Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.
God bless the USA
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Biden will be the first white male democratic presidential nominee since 2004. Get over it.
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I supported and voted for Warren. I didn't agree with all her positions, but she was the smartest candidate, with solid plans where Bernie had The Speech, repeated endlessly. I didn't give a hoot what her gender was.
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I liked Warren all right until the debate when she savaged Mike Bloomberg. She effectively threw the baby out with the bath water.
Worse, when she said Amy Klobuchar's health care plan could fit on a Post It note, I heard Trump -- that is, a false, derogatory comment meant to pierce the jugular, not advance a coherent health plan of her own. Pure grandstanding.
She strove to portray herself as a passionate policy wonk. But the campaign revealed that she was just as able to be a rampaging political hack.
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Always amazed how Sanders and Warren are called 'liberals' and the 'liberal wing' of the Democratic party.
Biden is a liberal. Sanders and Warren are leftists.
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Because they want universal healthcare and equality? No Biden is not liberal.
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@Cncody Universal healthcare and equality sounds great but the devil is in the details.There is a government insurance in England and I don't like it.There is a blended system in Austria that works ok.There should be difference and a big one between those who perform well and those who barely try .That difference is too much for me at this time.
@Gdk There is also private health insurance in the UK (not just England) because of the NHS Floor - which has saved my life 3 times, the private section is quite affordable to anyone with means. But we are ALL safe. And at half US costs. But you knew that.
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Watching Warren on Maddow is depressing. She could have been a great president. I do think she should endorse Bernie but please stop talking about a DNC conspiracy. Your privilege and racism is so evident in those statements. African Americans, the base of the Democratic Party, prefer Biden to Sanders.
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@Mal Stone -- Blacks are not the base of the Democratic party. Some whites invest them with a weighted vote, but they are not the majority of registered Democrats, and they are as unreliable as young people when it comes to actually showing up to vote (unless motivated by an overtly racial appeal, as Biden used by repeating "Barack" every other sentence, and smearing Sanders for daring to criticize his performance as president). As for a DNC conspiracy, yes, the party establishment was alarmed at Sanders's frontrunner status, not out of fear of losing to Trump, but because they oppose his real solutions to income inequality. So they hyped Biden's totally expected win in South Carolina and then pressured the two other, vastly superior (but less docile), moderates to drop out and endorse Biden, as they are now doing with Warren.
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@PL
So you have proof of this pressure. Please provide evidence.
Warren needed to drop out before Super Tuesday. The reluctant to do so hurt the progressives. I would have loved to vote for a woman for president - one I believed in - but we need to play smarter, long-game politics if we are ever going to get a progressive agenda. And #hellnojoe
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@Kay Dean She endorsed HRC when everyone thought Hillary is going to be our next president.Not a true progressive just a cheap opportunist
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@Gdk She should have supported Trump? OMG if anyone who swings to our pick is an opportunist, it really is God help America.
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On the positive side, at least a Democratic senate seat isn't going up for grabs. Mass. has turned Republican (think Mitt Romney and Scott Brown) at the oddest of times.
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By far, the best person for the job. Wait.
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She came in a distant 3rd in her own State primary. What are the people of Massachusetts trying to tell us?
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@Hk In Massachusetts all politics are local .What have you done for us Elizabeth ?Nothing lately.
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you’ve never been, obviously.
I wanted to add my voice to the thousands of women who are shaking our heads that Elizabeth Warren (and Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, and Kristen Guilibrand) are out of the presidential race but the three old white guys are all we are left with: an ignorant, narcissist currently in the job, an angry democratic-socialist whose supporters are unwilling to support anyone else, or the lovable but infinitely gaffe probe former VP.
Elizabeth Warren is one of the smartest people ever to run but was considered “unelectable “. Women will be the key for each of these men attempting to win the presidency. There’s irony for you.
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@Doris2001
Tulsi Gabbard is still in it,
and she’s a woman last time I looked.
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@New World But only just - sadly.
Bye proletarian sweaters.
Why?? Was she no good??
What phony. So happy that she is out.
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Elizabeth Warren did us all a huge favor by nipping the Bloomberg campaign in the bud. He was a potentially disastrous candidate.
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@Ben --Bloomberg would have made a fine president -- if not great, at least a sober manager that the country needs after these years of chaos and division. Warren did a terrible disservice to the nation in derailing his candidacy. But she cant help her nastiness. Whether it's calling Amy Klobuchar's health care plan small enough to put on a Post-It note, or condemning Buttigieg's mortal sin of holding a fundraiser in a California wine cave, or mocking Bloombergs height, Warren revels her nastiness, wears it as a badge of honor, to prove what a "strong woman" she is. So I will use a different description of her style: mean spirited. Im tired of women candidates claiming that it's ok to be mean because it would be ok for a man. No, it would not and it is not.
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@PL You want perfect... oh never mind.
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Right now, tonight, Elizabeth Warren is playing Texas Hold'em.
And right now, journalists are failing to ask withdrawn candidate who's endorsing Biden exactly what they expect to get in return for their slavering suport.
The people have a right to know.
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Drop is expected after Super Tuesday's result. What is not expected is that why she still had not made the decision to endorse anyone, not like Amy, Pete, and Mike.
My guess is that she should endorse Bernie from the policy standpoint since they have a very similar agenda, but I guess Bernie's "Woman can not win" talking and the deny on the debate stage really hurt her. So at the end, she would endorse nobody.
Warren's "I''ve got a plan for that" became almost a joke, and the more detailed they were, the more questions she faced. By contrast, Sanders announced lofty goals and aims, without ever explaining or being questioned on how he would achieve them. In this era, all that the Democratic nominee needs to say is that he will protect everything that Trump wants to undermine or destroy: our Consititution, our democracy, our government.
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@Alan J. Shaw
And our public lands.
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It's quite unfortunate that Warren is leaving the race. Her educated voice and stellar communication skills will be missed. But, sadly, there's lots of Americans out there who apparently don't want "education", "dignity", "ideas". The laser focus of the Democrats this election is ridding The White House of the current administration. Were this a year in which the GOP had put a more conventional leader at 1600 Penn - I'm thinking John Kasich - candidates like Warren could have made it further.
And then, sadly, sexism is an issue that has yet to go away. Lots of men out there - and even some women - aren't ready for a female leader as many other nations have done.
I am confident, though, that just as it took several iterations for an African-American president to be elected - in a nation where many intoned "a black man will never get into The White House" - we will at some point have a woman president. And I hope it's within my lifetime.
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@IlliniWatcher
Hillary won 3 million more votes than trump but not in the right states. Obviously tens of millions of people wanted a women for president.
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Warren was a better candidate than Sanders. I wish Sanders had stayed out of this race and the last one.
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Her big error was backing down on her Medicare for All plank of her platform. She should have thought that through a lot more. How strange is it for a person who has a plan for everything yet did not think this through?
She better think through who she will back as the democratic presidential nominee. Although at a superficial level Bernie may seem the best choice in the long run that may not be the case.
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Elizabeth Warren has class, intelligence, goodwill, and endless energy. I hope she continues to inspire, fight and lead us wherever she can. We have lots of good women out there. Please join Warren and hold the torch high until we have a White House, Congress and Courts full of women! Thanks to all those working in this direction.
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The next debate should be riveting. We're down to two candidates (if you don't count Tulsi Gabbard, and please don't). Maybe by next Tuesday, Sanders can drop out, and Biden will have the debate stage all to himself. It would be interesting to see Biden debate himself -- there's plenty of material over his 40 years in public office. Starting with his cutting Social Security and Medicare. His love of Republicans. The only Republican he doesn't like is Trump, which is funny, since Trump used to be a Democrat. Folks, look, it's gonna be a long four years, and I really mean that, no joke.
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Sen.Elizabeth Warren is a principled as well as practical indication of America's future.She will be the First female American president,after she serves her one term as Biden's vice president.That's all Joe really wants;one term to pass things on to a significant successor....Elizabeth comprises and composes both the progressivism and practicality of America's future.So called 'revolutionary,sections of the democratic party(Bernie)expect and anticipate her endorsement,for the mere reason that they will disown her,if she doesn't endorse Bernie.However,Elizabeth Warren was a Harvard professor and she didn't get there,by being uninformed and impatient.Intelligent analysis and assessment requires time,sometimes prolonged time.Her endorsement will be significant and Joe will be happy to receive it...
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It seems like a good strategy would be for her to trade a Biden endorsement for a designation as running mate, thus giving JB some cover on the left flank, plus a bit more appeal to some critical areas of the voting demographic.
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What is wrong with people? Biden is more of the Democrats finessing the Repulicans and comprimising to keep the rich folks in charge. Why would any self respecting Dem do that? Why? We need someone who will do the work and make the democracy work for the folks who work for this country...we need folks who will tax the wealthy to contribute to our infrastructure, take on the gun lobby, take on the education of our young folks, take on the climate problems, take on the problems of the commonwealth...not someone who wants to work with the Republicans to keep the status quo. We need help for the folks who keep this country going, not those who sit on their thrones and wait to see what happens. Please, let the reign of Reagan and the richest white folks be over...PLEASE!
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We need Elizabeth Warren. If we can't have her as President, we need her to continue to promote her vision for our country. We need her intelligence, imagination and commitment to advise our new President on how to further the wellbeing of average people, as she did when she designed the Consumer Credit Protection Agency (which Obama called "Elizabeth's," then failed to appoint her to lead it). We need her to set an example for politicians in government (many of whom operate on a basis of naked self-interest) of what it means to care about others, to want the best for all of us.
We need her to be our President, but predictably we're not going to get that. So far, that's not how our sexist country operates.
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@dutchiris
Please point to one primary or caucus that Elizabeth warren came even close to winning. She lost her own state by a landslide. People who voted for her as a senator didn’t vote for her to be the presidential nominee. But apparently the explanation must be that the country is sexist.
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Head or Heart? What will win?
Will she take the bitter pill, be pragmatic to back Biden candidacy, thereby alienate her support base in order to make a real difference for vulnerable Americans, for whom she cares so deeply.
Back Bernie and recede to backwaters, while defeated Bernie claims a prominent place in history as leitmotif of a failed revolution.
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The death knell of her campaign was when she refused to shake Bernie's hand on stage after the debate: it was petty and unseemly and we already have a President like that in the White House ( okay, he is much worse).
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I defy the analysis that Warren lost the primary due to sexism. There hasn't been much measurable evidence of sexism so far.
Personally I have always been unimpressed with her vision. I like her grandiose ideas, but long ago I chalked them up to pure fantasy. No way she would get her extraordinarily expensive proposals through Congress.
And her ideas struck me as surprisingly naïve. It is simply bad strategy to categorically demonize the mega-wealthy. For one thing, not all of them are evil. And their money has influence, enough to quash the massive increase on their taxes that Warren's proposals would require. Enough, as she sheepishly accepted, to bankroll her campaign.
But as for sexism? I think she would have flamed out even if she was a man.
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You have no idea how hilariously freudian your imagery is.
Three smacks with any of Rosalind Krauss’ books.
You heard it hear first, the first female President of the United States will be a Republican. Sorry Elizabeth Warren, you gave it a valiant try.
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Re: NY Assembly bill A8554 (Rosenthal) - for a more humane rodeo - SUPPORT! See link below for short documentary which addresses all the issues raised in the Rosenthal legislation.
https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/511110691/award-winning-documentary-short-bucking-tradition-now-available-to-the-public
I feel like the NYT should not have had two men write that article
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The mansplaining found in many of these comments here explains a lot.
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@Aileen Delaney
That's the most unintellectual and sexist response of all, isn't it? The I don't like what you're saying because I'm a womansplaining feminist and you don't agree with me so I'll just call you names response. And you wonder why Warren lost.
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The new narrative that Warren’s out due to her status as a female sounds like liberal auto-pilot garbage. Pundits refer to Hillary losing as proof that America isn’t ready to elect a woman. A few points: Hillary won the popular vote vs Trump, so America was pretty ready. Warren surged early based on her intelligence, identification as a capitalist, and someone with policy know now who could fight for regular working people. From that point she became extreme and sometimes unhinged. Her appeal, compared to what we thought she was, dropped precipitously. The real story: She blew it!
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Elizabeth's in a tough spot if forced to endorse the Dem
candidates before the nominee is selected. I think she should
wait until after the selection is made. The Senate is of prime
importance and in that position she will be most effective.
I hope whoever gets the nomination will select Stacey Abram
for a running mate.
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@Franska Abrams is a loser in her own state, which just happens to be my state. Not only did she lose the election, she continued to whine about it like a little baby. Why would you pick her as a VP? I did not vote for her, and if she is VP it will be a serious ding against the presidential candidate.
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Biden, Hilary, Amy, Pete, are all apart of the same machine, we need Elizabeth/Bernie, to fix it. Look what trump did to the republican party?
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Wonder if she would have enough courage to endorse Bernie...
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Many on this forum seem convinced it's a simple matter of sexism. Sexism played a role, hoever, last time I checked Hillary Clinton was the nominee in 2016 after knocking off Bernie Sanders. Joe Biden just gave Bernie Sanders a drubbing on Tuesday. what is evidenced by both these results is that Democrats want a moderate candidate who holds basic liberal values but doesn't scare them off with giant structural changes like socialized medicine. This is especially true now that we've seen the horror show that is Donald Trump in office.
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@AJ Are you seriously suggesting that, with his history and ability, if Mr Biden were a woman he would still be the leading candidate??
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@AJ
In the south, in states Bernie nor Biden will win!
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Grim days ahead as we march inexorably onward with men, men, men, and older men, old men as far as the eye can see trampling women's rights--wait--what rights?
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@Debra
Lots of us men are voting for women. You need to get women to vote for women.
Women are a majority of voters. Women have the power. What are they doing with it?
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Is it really going to take another four years of Trump for Democrats to finally understand that identity and gender politics are over?
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@Debra
You men men men who created this country and its institutions? Maybe if women create a country or even an auto industry, a Hollywood, or a Silicon Valley they can lead them.
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They say that we get the government we deserve. We deserve Trump as president but we don’t deserve President Elizabeth Warren. I always suspected as much about us, but it doesn’t feel good to have it confirmed.
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Too bad she didn't make an endorsement before her fifteen minutes of fame expired.
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I was — am — a fan of hers! I think she is the best of all of them.
However — the missing piece is: Yes, there is sexism in how this played out — but people with sexist views still have the right to vote.
Although they SHOULD not make decisions on the basis of sexism, voters have the right to do so. So sex-based issues do have an impact on electability — sad, but a fact. Same with race. Having sexist or racist views does not forfeit your right to vote.
The Trump presidency is the largest national emergency in my lifetime, and we cannot afford any liabilities when we choose a candidate. It’s sad, but true. Yes, it’s sexist — but so are many voters. And those voters will elect the next president.
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I am sorry to say this but, about time. Warren was seen once as the front runner, but in recent months her campaign seemed to run out of steam, in no small part due to the fact that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, obsessed with running in circles of "let's start a revolution" being "anti-establishment" and twisting themselves into pretzels of virtue signalling and moral purity, tends to eat it's own. And Warren, much like Sanders, spend her campaign trying to fit into all those categories and check all the required boxes... but in the end it wasn't enough.
In the end, much like Sanders, Senator Warren oferred platitudes instead of actually thought out and costed policies, soundbites instead of ideas. Sloganeerig might score you brownie points in certain circles but it doesn't guarantee a connection with the electorate at large or widespread appeal beyond your supporters. This was borne out by the results of this past Super Tuesday primaries.
Bernie Sanders is next. Time for the Democrats to come together and create a functional strategy and actionable plan on how to defeat Donald Trump and perhaps take over the Senate as well. Hopefully that is still possible...
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No candidate can ever be Woke enough for the Critical Social Justice scrupulists. There's always a trip-point somewhere in the circular reasoning. In the meantime, regular voters who live in reality-land read/hear about Tweets like "black trans women are the backbone of the Democratic Party" coming from the Warren campaign, and wonder exactly what is going on, and question whether she is a serious candidate or a hologram of the identitarian left. Pandering to the insane, insatiable demands of the Social Justice set cost Senator Warren dearly.
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@loco73
"oferred [sic] platitudes [sic] instead of actually thought out and costed policies"
Really? She had a plan for everything and cost estimates throughout. Read up.
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@Timothy
" She had a plan for everything"
That was her problem. Presidents don't make policy. Congress does. She was too specific with "I've got a plan for that."
Of all people, Warren as a sitting Senator, should have known that.
A president should offer a broad brush vision of where she or he wants to take the nation, rather than detailed plans of how to do it (which are ultimately up to Congress).
That is why Warren lost the primary race.
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Well, hey, I lost my enthusiasm for her when she tried to smear Bloomberg with an unproven allegation that he chose to fight in court. “He told her to get rid of the baby!” she repeated the allegation as if proven fact. Very Trump-like move. Glad she is out, hope she isn’t in the running for VP. She let that tiny bit of power from her first attack against Bloomberg go straight to her heart and head. Not well played. Hope she reads this.
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@Alex I agree I saw it and was shocked, she actually
turned to Bloomberg and said "you said kill it".
That was a desperation move on her part.
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@Alex While Warren was attacking Bloomberg, I was thinking that she is probably the only one running that might actually out-Trump Trump during the Presidential Debates.
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@Alex Bloomberg did say that. There was a witness who overheard the conversation as reported in Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/michael-bloomberg-women/
Bloomberg is fine as a private citizen and philanthropist but he would have been a disaster as the nominee and a more dangerous president than Trump given his atrocious record on civil liberties. So forever grateful to Warren for derailing his campaign.
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So Democratic Party down to:
Joe Biden, a 77 year old white man, who was declared politically dead 2 weeks ago, who won his first primary (after 32 years of failing) last Saturday, who struggled to finish a sentence until about 2 weeks ago (still struggles, but better for last 2 weeks), who is part of the Clintons, Obama aligned with Wall Street, corporations, billionaires interests Democratic Party (but better than Republican alternative).
And Bernie Sanders, a 78 year old white man, who keeps promising a revolution that will never come (not peacefully via the ballot box), and is a life-long self-described Democratic Socialist in a country where the majority of the voters reject socialism (no matter what type of socialism - even though in reality we have plenty of socialist-type programs/policies already).
One of them will take on Donald Trump, a 73 year old white man - the most disgusting and indecent President in our history, who is an existential threat to our Constitution, our democracy, our country, our planet. With the Presidency, the Senate, the Congress, the Supreme Court on the line this November.
We rejected Elizabeth Warren, a woman who wanted to take on the Wall Street, billionaire, corporation corruption that is destroying our democracy - just like Bernie - but she had real policies and plans and she is a capitalist, who wants to reform capitalism. Brilliant, accomplished, qualified, passionate.
But a woman - so we rejected her.
Be ashamed Democrats.
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@MC
"Be ashamed Democrats."
Truest words written in any of the hundreds of comments I have read so far.
We need to retire the nonsense about how it's *Republicans* who are so invested in misogyny.
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@MC
I don’t believe she lost in every primary she competed in including her home state because she’s a woman. She wasn’t a very good candidate, she didn’t connect with voters, and she turned more desperate and nasty as the primary campaign went on.
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A woman candidate will not win until one who shows authentic emotion and relateability. Both Hillary and Warren just tried to hard to be liked. Their phoniness, forced laughs, and frantic hand waving were just turn offs, especially for men.
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Know what else is a turn off? Double standards.
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Some claim Warren is a tough, principled street fighter with an unshakeable moral compass who can not and will not be bought off by the wealthy and powerful.
Others insist this former Republican is a political operator, who follows where the wind blows and is driven more by what will advance her career than what is right.
It would be hard to come up with a more perfect test of her character than the one she faces now. Will she throw her weight behind the man responsible for the working class revolution she has endorsed in her campaign or will she back the establishment, status-quo do-nothing that the DNC has once more foisted on us?
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@VoiceofAmerica
I don't think the DNC foisted anything at us. The results from the South Carolina primary spoke volumes. It was the first truly diverse state to go to the polls and Biden was the overwhelmingly favored candidate. Mayor Buttigieg and Senator Klobuchar did not get significant votes from the African-American population whose support will be crucial going forward. They did not see a path forward and so they suspended their campaigns and endorsed the remaining viable moderate candidate, Joe Biden.
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@VoiceofAmerica
What working class revolution are you speaking about? Bernie is a lone wolf with no legislation to his credit for taking on any of the entities he criticizes. Who are the Congressmen and Senators besides a handful of Congressional representatives that are going to make a revolution happen? Warren doesn’t need to prove her character for taking on Wall Street, the banks, and protecting the consumer. She’s done it.
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@Scott I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Amazon and Disney workers who got raises because of Bernie Sanders would disagree.
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For me, the central reason that Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign came in like a lion, but went out like a lamb: Elizabeth Warren. The more that I heard from Ms. Warren, the less I liked her. In an age where we face perhaps the most dishonest President since Nixon, she was, to be blunt, dishonest in ways large and small.
Whether in refusing to recognize the reality of her Native American ruse (the perfidy of which became more apparent in the slow unwinding of her story and lawyerly obfuscations), the contradictions over why she left teaching (telling multiple inconsistent stories), or her Olympic-level dissembling on whether taxes would go up on the middle class, Elizabeth Warren alienated people like me because it became clear that the truth wasn't that important to her.
In fact, it reached a point where, when she accused Sanders of telling her in a private conversation that a woman could not win the White House, I simply could not and did not believe her. I don't know anyone, in fact, who did.
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David, good points. I thought her attack on Mike Bloomberg added to the problem. She was mean and vicious, not presidential.
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@David Add to your list of Warren’s dishonesty: smearing Buttigieg’s integrity for doing the kind of fundraising she had done herself and also accepting money from a PAC after incessantly attacking others for doing so. Her having worked at one point as a corporate lawyer to protect the interests of the likes of Enron and Dow Chemical, and then underplaying it, made her look like a dissembler.
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@David
pre-trump Warren was my odds-on favorite for the job. Post-trump was at least my 3rd or 4th choice. Like many people I know, the Trump presidency seems to have caused them to completely unravel psychologically.
She was truly my perfect candidate, her diagnosis of American institutions perfectly placed, yet her approach was far more pragmatic than Sanders. She actually got things done - important things!
Yet following the 2016 election she came out swinging at Trump, with a clear eye on the white house, and it all fell apart before our eyes. The man makes people desperate, they think they have to vigorously attack him, and scramble to construct themselves into a super hero. Your criticism is spot on David, she quickly found herself void of any concrete ideals, and the voters are not as gullible as she presumed.
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Paraphrasing someone else’s words....
Don’t tell your young daughters they can grow up to be anything they want to be, including President, if you are not willing to vote for a more than qualified woman.
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We elected a female president - Hillary.
The only reason she is not president is the electoral college.
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@D Don't think anyone wondered about her bona fides, they objected to her policies. Why in this Twitter dominated world can't anyone understand that opinion and gender can be two different things? Most Americans object to government mandated redistribution of wealth.
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@D
So true. Maybe when we have a global recession we'll finally give someone smart a chance.
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She was the best candidate of all.
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@Murray Bolesta Agreed
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@Murray Bolesta True but look at who people elect. D Trump comes to mind.
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@Murray Bolesta She was the candidate everyone said they wanted, but their votes tell a different tale. If you can figue out why you can make a lot of money as a political consultant. This is why polls can't be trusted. People are quick to say what they want, but when it comes down to casting their vote, reason flies out the window and emotion prevails. Liz just didn't stir enough passion in enough people.
At this point I'd love to see her join up with Bernie and help him push the populist/progressive agenda they both call for.
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Dear Democrats,
Do you remember the 1996 presidential election? The Republicans ran Bob Dole against Bill Clinton. They knew that Dole had no chance of winning.
They gave Bob Dole the lifetime achievement award, as the Republican nominee for president in 1996. (And he deserved it.)
That is exactly what the Democrats are doing in 2020 with Joe Biden. They are giving him the lifetime achievement award. Joe Biden is a good and decent man. He deserves it.
I fear that Joe Biden does not have what it takes to defeat Mr. Trump in November, just like Bob Dole didn't have what it took to defeat Mr. Clinton in 1996.
===
For what it's worth, I will be voting for Bernie Sanders in my state's primary on March 24. I do think he has what it takes to defeat Donald Trump.
Come November, I will vote for the Democratic nominee, whomever he or she may be.
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Warren should have quit this before super Tuesday.
She hurt Bernie, and even if she endorses him now its' a little too late because most who would vote for her would now vote for Bernie anyway.
A little late.
But Warren still has time to make some amends. What's stopping her from endorsing Tulsi Gabbard -- the only female still in the race, who will make a fine president someday?
My guess is that Elizabeth Warren will endorse Sanders because she is a believer. They were pretty much for the same things.
Some say they became enemies during the debate season but they were mostly allies with much in common.
It's possible that she "saw the light" and is now moving to the more conservative Joe Biden, but i doubt that.
It's hard to suddenly give up your most basic beliefs so she will "forgive" Bernie and stay with their heartfelt cause, together.
I think Biden has the best chance to win the battle with Trump.
This will be a brutal campaign and Warren will be there to bandage up Biden.
The Warren Sanders dispute was petty. She should be "big" enough to forgive Bernie.
Somewhere out there is a blue eyed blond haired moderate Democratic candidate under the age of sixty who can defeat Trump and lead this country.
Off-topic, innocuous, and absolutely non-political:
HURRY WHILE SUPPLIES LAST!
Warren's campaign's shop has very well made tote bags (sturdy cotton canvas, union-made in the US), available in two sizes, in both navy and white.
[I bought one in the larger size* a week or two ago, and just ordered the smaller one (with Warren's picture on it) today. All I have to do now is use them to donate books, CDs and DVDs to the library, i.e. to declutter the house.]
[* It says: The time for small ideas is over.]
P.S. -- If you do not need a tote bag, just send a donation; that's OK too.
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A loss for this nation.
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She ran a great campaign! Much respect!
I will continue to support Senator Warren’s progressive message. I will help Bernie Sanders’ campaign for addressing climate change and caring about our neighbors as fellow Americans. I hope Warren eventually comes on board the next administration. She is very intelligent and has a great future ahead!
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Great messenger. Terrible message.
NB
Biden/Warren 2020.
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She would make a much better President than anyone else running or who ran in the past, or who has been President. Shame Americans are too dumb to seize an opportunity when it was right there in front of them.
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Non-US citizen chiming in here. Elizabeth Warren would have inadvertently made the debates with Trump a circus. He would have done something truly sick, like bringing in 50 real American Indians in traditional clothing to the audience, or worse yet, 50 WASP women dressed up as American Indians, including war paint. She would never have shaken the Pocahontas label. That stupid DNA test set her up for further ridicule.
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@Heike Korošec
I can actually see Trump doing something like that. But perhaps Warren could get Stormy, plus all of the women that have accused him of sexual assault or sexual harassment to sit in the front row for the 2nd debate.
Bring on Biden-Warren!
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Liz finally cracks the front page--but only because she dropped out? Queue the patronizing op-eds and think pieces. You can safely lift the Warren blackout now that you have a comfortable narrative: "consensus" candidate v. socialist firebrand. Two septuagenarian white males vying to oppose--let's see, another septuagenarian white male.
It's T-rex v. triceratops, and may the best dinosaur win.
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@rick t
"Liz finally cracks the front page-"
What are you talking about?
The NY Times endorsed Warren. (Or at least half-endorsed her.)
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exactly. half.
Sad day.
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True Progressives knew Warren was pandering trying to steal the Sander's vote because where was she in 2016? Backing Hillary...The only reason she stayed in the race this long was to divert votes from Sanders. Maybe she will prove me wrong, but I bet she will back Biden hoping to get a VP slot, but she'll end up like Geraldine Ferraro to Biden's Mondale.
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Americans have just made another critical and tragic mistake and this time we can't blame the "deplorables."
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@MRF
Yes, we can!
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How did a race that started out with so many diverse high-quality candidates end up a battle between two flawed old white guys?!?
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@Melbourne Town
"a battle between two flawed old white guys"
Make that three flawed old white guys.
Donald Trump is 73 years old -- only 4-5 years younger than Biden and Sanders. Trump is morbidly obese, eats cheeseburgers, partakes in "two scoops", and has a family history of dementia.
Mr. Trump is arguably a septuagenarian in worse health than either Biden or Sanders.
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We are, again, forced to realize that a woman with a voice, brain, or enthusiasm, will be relegated to being; shrill, emotional and bitchy. The same traits in a man, a white man, are considered “leadership qualities”.
I voted for Bernie because I could see this. My best ticket would be Bernie and Warren. He’s one term, she should be his VP, and they could start, and maybe finish with the twelve years between them.
This tax paying Socialism for the top has got to end. If our lottery ticket in taxes is not realized because it is, just that, a rouse, we have to USE our tax dollars to level the playing field.
Unchecked capitalism is a lottery ticket for the masses. How is that working for you?
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Elizabeth Warren did this country an immense disservice - and she completely lost my respect - when she relentlessly and viciously attacked Michael Bloomberg in the Nevada debate. Unlike Ms. Warren, Mike Bloomberg would have been a great American president. Her street-fighter, bend-the-truth-until-it's-as-good-as-broken, no-holds-barred assault was shocking to watch. Clearly she likes to win, but methods as outrageous as this will make her lose every time.
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@Tortwuz
Now if she would use that talent for making snarky attacks against Trump (on Twitter, of course) perhaps she could help the Democratic nominee.
March 5, 2020
Dear Elizabeth Warren
SANDERS/WARREN 2020
NOW That's the TICKET!!!!
Both You and BERNIE SANDERS can TRULY TRANSFORM
our COUNTRY in SUPPORT of REAL NEEDED CHANGE for
We the PEOPLE!!!
Without a Moments DELAY- DO the RIGHT Thing NOW
Warren You Must immediately without Question ASAP,
ENDORSE the GREAT Bernie SANDERS....Now!!!
Sanders should in Turn make you Warren his VP...Now
Both You and BERNIE SANDERS can TRULY TRANSFORM
our COUNTRY in SUPPORT of REAL NEEDED CHANGE for
We the PEOPLE!!!
Warren your policies and ideology have ZERO in common
with the Fake Joe Biden who has NO clue of ANYTHING!
If you Warren align yourself with BIDEN, then you are
basically another Political Hypocrite and Fraud that can be
bought and sold on a dime
Put your Jealousy aside of Sanders and ENDORSE him NOW
before its too late.
Warren you cannot just Talk the Talk you have to stand firm in
your policies, given the objective fact that you COPIED most
of SANDERS platforms throughout your campaign...
DO THE RIGHT THING NOW & ENDORSE the GREAT BERNIE
SANDERS
Both You and BERNIE SANDERS can TRULY TRANSFORM
our COUNTRY in SUPPORT of REAL NEEDED CHANGE for
We the PEOPLE!!!
SANDERS/WARREN 2020
NOW That's the TICKET!!!!
Whoever winds up with the nomination, I hope he chooses Elizabeth Warren as his running mate. She was the best of all of them and would make a wonderful, healing President should something happen. And both of the remaining men have hefty health problems. She would likely ensure a Democratic win and possibly a down-ticket sweep if she is on the ticket. I'm sad that she is no longer running, but I know that she will always stand and fight for the People. She always has and she always will.
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Warren is a great liberal intellectual.
But she is a terrible politician.
It seems every time she tries to make a political play, she wrong-foots it.
Endorse a candidate in 2016? She waited until the end, then bandwagons with Clinton rather than her ideological peer, Sanders. For Clinton supporters, her support wasn’t worth mentioning. For progressives, it was a betrayal.
Prove her heritage? She insisted on doing a blood test, then touted the results, which showed her to be as Native American as she has always claimed. When a small group of NAs challenge her, she backed down and apologized, erasing her own NA ancestors and caving into “woke” PC bullies. She could have distinguished herself from the fringe identity left by pushing back. She didn’t. Instead she looked weak.
Challenging Sanders on a private conversation two years ago, which easily could have been a misunderstanding, and painting it as a lie was foolish and pointless.
Et al., et al., et al.
And now she seems reluctant to endorse Sanders. Warren is the leader-in-waiting of the progressive wing of the Democratic party, unless she endorses Biden and becomes just another party apparatchik. I’m worried which way she will turn.
I’m glad she’s in the Senate and would be very happy with her as president, but her political instincts will keep her from getting there.
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@Objectively Subjective The minor gaffes you describe are so inconsequential in scope compared to Trump's daily assault on truth and common decency, not to mention incoherence. Biden can scarcely string 3 sentences together, and makes fundamental errors about simple things. You set the bar so high for Warren, with a lower standard for the guys.
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The volume of identity politics is so loud it’s deafening. She began to lose because she had a big idea that could not be properly funded. After that, no one believed her. Had she been able to convincingly pay for MFA, she would be the nominee. She’s smart. She’s tough. She hit an unprepared Bloomberg mercilessly, which, by the way, hurt both of them. This old white male wanted to support her, much more than the old white male who is about to receive the nomination. But it’s not her gender. She lost quite fair and square.
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Elizabeth Warren is whip smart, although not always so wise in allowing her emotions to double down on the individual attacks. Bloomberg deserved every measure she gave him the first time. The second time should have devolved into an attack on his class. There are no 'good' billionaires.
Bernie has over many years figured that one out thoroughly & avoids the voodoo approach, using strategy over tactics. Wish Liz had decided to be his veep & wonkish adviser early on.
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Warren supporters are dealing with heartbreak today. I hope you still support building representative democracy. And taxing the American Oligarchy that has already taken almost everything away. Time to fight for our Constitution. Fight for actual healthcare. Fight for climate future. Fight for Sanders.
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I hope Warren, clearly the most talented debater and someone who’s complimentary personal talents could make a great team with Sanders, meant it when she said she cared about helping Americans have a level playing field, have healthcare and have a representative democracy.
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Dear NY Times Editorial Board,
You endorsed not one, but two losers in the Democratic primary: Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.
Don't get me wrong. I admire both of them. I call them losers only because they did not win. And I would have enthusiastically supported either Liz or Amy for president, had one of them become the nominee.
But whom will you choose now, between Biden and Sanders? And why?
I think we all know the answers.
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This isn't about America rejecting a woman candidate. My letter to Senator Warren:
Dear Senator Warren,
You claim to support combating climate change and a litany of progressive issues. Bernie asked you to run for president in 20(15)16. You refused. So he ran against neoliberal Clinton. You endorsed Clinton. Then in 2019, you followed the Clinton playbook, made it personal, and accused Bernie of saying a woman couldn't win the presidency. Progressives didn't believe you -- Bernie is not a sexist as his lifetime of public service demonstrates. If you are the progressive you claim to be, you should endorse Bernie NOW. But... I fully expect you to follow form and endorse the billionaire-funded Biden, who will likely lose to Trump; but should he win, you know he will never enact any of the progressive policies you claim to support. Instead of tearing up for "those little girls who won't see a woman win the White House" you should tear up for them for not having a planet that is inhabitable in their future.
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Warren is worth $12,000,000. She has a large $3,000,000 house in Cambridge and a $1,000,000 condo I’d DC. She made all this money consulting corporations on bankruptcy and at Harvard. This is a populist person of the people?? There’s a reason she came in third in Massachusetts. We hate her. She’s an opportunist phony. I regret voting for her years ago. Won’t make that mistake again. She’s all ambition and no integrity. She should put her money where her mouth is and create a foundation with $8,000,000. She’ll have plenty left.
I would like to weigh in on the idea of Warren being named veep by either Biden or Sanders, and with respect to those mentioning it, I must say this:
I hate it, for the same reasons I hated it when in 2008 some people suggested Obama should pick Hillary for veep.
First, the woman, far more qualified for the office than the man, takes the back seat, the understudy, the supporting role ("behind every good man ..."). Ugh. Would make me angry every time I saw the bumper sticker. Might make some folks angry enough to stay home.
Second, the focus should be on the person at the top of the ticket. With another, popular primary contender on the ticket, the focus is diluted.
My own preference is for Biden to name either Klobuchar or Staci Abrams, whichever of them can deliver more votes. It’s up to him and his team to get this right. With his mortifyingly obvious cognitive decline, voters will look very closely at the veep pick.
If it’s Sanders, then perhaps Tulsi Gabbard. I know she stirs up a lot of folks, but I don’t think she would be a liability for his voters. More important, she brings not only youth, but Hollywood-level glamour. We like to pooh-pooh this, but never forget Nixon-JFK in 1960: looks are important in show biz--I mean, politics. (Biden doesn’t need that so much in his veep pick, because even at 77 he remains a handsome man.)
Like all classic liberals, Liz wanted everyone to change except herself. She wanted to tax other people and spend their money the way she thought it should be spent. It’s classic socialism and it won’t fly here.
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Awful shame. To me, she was by far the Democratic party’s most impressive candidate. A commie and a grafter left in the race now. Not brilliant.
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Bernie shouldn't have lied about his comment To Warren regarding his statement that a woman candidate couldn't win. Now Warren can say (to herself, anyway) that she can't support a liar.
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@NotKidding, odd that Sanders would have told Warren that a woman can’t win the presidency... he encouraged Warren to run herself in 2016. When she chose not to, he did. This is all pretty well known.
And then he tells her a couple of years later that a woman can’t win? Why? After all, Clinton, a weak candidate, had just trounced Trump in the popular vote and come within 88,000 votes of winning the electoral college. A hairsbreadth.
So suddenly a woman can’t win? Against Trump, the least popular president in history?
Warren misunderstood. Let it go. Stop being absurd.
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I hope she proves she cares about fighting for the progressive policies and endorses the candidate whose still fighting for us. Please prove to us you weren’t lying, Liz.
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Warren is sharp enough to know to wait before endorsing anyone. If the delegate race is tight in a few weeks her endorsement could tip the balance and lead to her being the nominee’s choice for VP.
@CharlesM1950 -- That's not gonna happen. Biden has as much as said he's not interested in Warren as his vp or in any other role in his administration: he said "we need her in the Senate." No, the Biden administration, like the Democratic party establishment, wants nothing to do with Warren or Sanders's policy goals. If she endorses Biden, the party will let her keep her Senate seat, but Biden doesn't need her support or her supporters. He has the black vote, the "heart and soul of the Democratic party," remember (Terry McAuliffe)? Biden will take us back not to Obama, but 20 years. It will Clinton 2.0. A bridge to the 20th century.
I like and respect Elizabeth Warren. I would have been happy to get behind her and enthusiastically support her for president. She just could not get the votes.
Some readers think that Warren was defeated by sexism (apparently among fellow Democrats). I don't buy that. Here is why Warren's campaign did not succeed, and it has nothing to do with gender.
1. "I have a plan for that" is exactly the wrong thing to do as a presidential candidate.
- Congress makes laws. The president has the bully pulpit, and can sign bills. A president's specific plans mean absolutely nothing.
- As a sitting Senator, Warren should have known this.
2. A president should speak in broad strokes about a vision for the country, and the priorities that she or he would push.
- Not about the details of implementation, which Congress is responsible for.
3. Don't believe me?
- Warren peaked in Oct 2019, with broad brush visions, including universal healthcare.
- Then she released her "plan for that." With way too may details and specifics (which a president cannot control).
- And then her standing in the Democratic primary fell, because people did not like her overly-specific "plan for that."
- She should have kept waving her hands with the high-level vision for Medicare for All, and stayed silent about her "plan for that."
That is why Elizabeth Warren did not succeed in winning the Democratic nomination as a presidential candidate. It has nothing to do with gender.
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After savaging Buttigieg for his "crystal cave" fundraiser and Bernie for warning that sexism is a factor in national elections, and then Bloomberg for (of course) unspecified inappropriate remarks to women, Warren faced her own demise on Super Tuesday as her supporters saw the urgency of rallying around the stronger progressive in the face of the Biden juggernaut. Having effectively been destroyed by the party establishment that cleared the path for Biden overnight, Warren is now facing the "choice" of endorsing her natural ally or keeping her Senate seat. Biden has already telegraphed the stakes: no vp position her, not even a cabinet post; if she wants to save her political future at all ("we need her in the Senate") she'd better endorse the party's choice.
Warren should make her endorsement quickly and finish out her full Senate term instead of lobbying for a job in a possible Sanders or Biden administration. It's going to be hard enough to take back control of the Senate this fall without making the job even easier for the GOP by gift-wrapping them another seat. (I assume Charlie Baker would appoint a Republican to replace her.)
Of course, if the Dems do mange to take back the Senate and hold the House, and they wind up with a tie-proof majority in the Senate, she can then take on a Cabinet post.
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If you missed hearing Warren speaking today in Cambridge you missed what would have been the foundation of her inaugural address in January of 2021, had she been elected. Education, Healthcare, Childcare and the bulk of the country struggling to pay for it.
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@Tom
Just wondering do those 3 things - Education, Healthcare & Childcare cost more than our war over WMD?
We're still "over there," so it's still costing billions "and the bulk of the country is still struggling to pay for it."
I was very disappointed when Sanders entered the race, which was more about ego (I can do it better than Elizabeth) than about helping another effective progressive legislator get elected.
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The best candidate won't win as Warren was the best. As a woman and an American, I'm disappointed. But the stakes are high and safety is more important than excellence right now. Vote blue no matter who.
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I reckon she will endorse Trump. He is the only logical one. They have always had a loving relationship.
The Democrat will stop at nothing to keep Sanders from being the nominee. They know that sleepy Joe can't beat Trump yet it is better than Sander's winning as far as they are concerned.
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Sanders couldn’t win against Biden in most of the primaries so far, there is no way he could win against Trump.
@Alexandra Hamilton
Let's face it. Neither can beat Trump.
As a planet, we are facing an existential threat on multiple fronts, as a nation we are facing the potential end of the Republic and the beginning of full-fledged plutocracy. The GOP has decided to bury its collective head and embrace the apocalypse. NOW...
We had One candidate, Elizabeth Warren, who was up to the job in terms of intelligence, demeanor, and vision. The powers that be would have none of it and the media acted to crucify her. What we have left is a visionary with questionable ability to put his ideas into practice and a right of center mediocrity whose policies and practices are completely not up to addressing the great issues we face.
Thanks a lot.
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He comment on sexism here is worth noting. On an endorsement, there is the problem of old ageism, and i can see her dilemma.
Both she and Bernie Sanders need (needed) young people to turn out enmass for their cause. They still need this, and how are they going to do it? One problem might be TV. Young people see the commercial ads, and if they don't learn anything else from TV, they know they are lies. Then they see all the candidate ads, and think, more of the same.
How to connect? It's their world, and climate change looms ever bigger as the main problem. Old people seem content with retirement dividends from an oil economy--another problem in itself. It doesn't have to be that way.
Latest is that CH4, methane, strength in the atmosphere is coming from anthropogenic sources more so than the models have previously taken into account. CH4 is a more potent warming GHG than CO2. CH4 in the atmosphere has more than doubled since the beginning of the industrial revolution, both from burning coal and now natural gas. (Source is Nature, Feb 20)
I am very saddened by Warren dropping out. I think we need to put this into perspective for all the little girls in Warren's selfie line. Elizabeth told them she was running for President because 'That's what girls do.'
The other thing girls do is, girls stand on the shoulders of girls who came before them, who are holding them up and setting an example so that they can reach even higher and know that they deserve a place at the table and to speak their mind. And, sometimes the girls who we hold up with our actions now, are our future selves.
Elizabeth, you were a giant. You have influenced the conversation in so many ways. Your courage is unparalleled and you have inspired so many people. Please come back in four years, build on what you've done, and lead this country like you're meant to.
Sometimes I think that women have to be our own image of confidence and bravery, when we are a 'first.' And that's hard. You've laid the groundwork to break through that ceiling, and I hope you come back and do it. I want to re-read this situation as a positive, because I think that, something not having happened yet is the spark and the opportunity for it to occur. It is only a matter of time. I am excited for what is to come. (I actually am.) This is what I would tell my daughter.
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Warren and all her gifts are precisely what this nation needs at this point in history in our highest office. Because of how we react to her gender we won't get that and, most likely, things are gonna get worse, folks.
How I wish that weren't true.
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This isn’t about gender. It’s about trustworthiness.
@Leah
Can you truly make a case that any remaining candidates for office are more trustworthy?
It's about gender.
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First of all, Sanders did not lose to Billionaires. They were generally aligned with Trump. Check the facts.
So, stop the class warfare and acknowledge the facts. People will reshuffle their votes based on the programs candidates present (and they did). Biden triumphed, but you can’t say that Biden was the choice of the bilionaires.
And Bernie lost ground on a same state basis nearly everywhere. And his turnout was poor.
Secondly, Warren noted that she thought that there would be more that two lanes to success - moderate and progressive.
That would have been an excellent assumption through most of history.
But Bernie - in the style of Trump, has succeeded in politicizing the definition of progress to exclude anything less than radical change. In Bernie’s case a financially destructive overthrow of a system that really, simply needs progressive incrementalism. In the style of essentially moderate (or even previously-conservative) people like Kennedy, LBJ, and Obama.
For this, I blame social media and the intervention of outside interests. As personified by agit-prop sites like Fox News, Zero-Hedge and the “Dirty Dem’s” websites and podcasts highlighted by the NYT in an article a few days ago.
Somewhere, Vladimir Putin is smiling.
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@Layla
Of course it's too important to be about gender! It's when gender and/or anti-intellectualism, reinforced by media spin on "electability," get in the way of qualification that I mourn.
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Is there sexism in the electorate which makes it harder for women to succeed on the national stage? Of course and we have a long ways to go to eradicate it! But that's not the reason why Warren lost. I think she ran a poor campaign and that wouldn't be any different if her name were Larry Warren. 1. She started out in the progressive lane as an alternative to Bernie. However, when she couldn't explain how she'd finance Medicare for All and address the concerns of those who would lose private insurance, she backed off attempting to appeal to the more moderate voters. As a result, she lost the committed progressives and failed to attract the moderates who simply didn't trust her.
2.I grew tired of her relentless criticism of Buttigieg and others for fundraising from billionaires. Regrettably, with Citizens United, that's how the game is played. If I heard the wine cave mentioned one more time, my head would have exploded.
3. I never understood the vitriol for Bloomberg. Who was she benefitting by kneecapping him? Removing Bloomberg served no purpose other than benefitting Biden. To attract voters, you should have attacked Sanders who, ironically was the frontrunner at the time and the competitor in the same progressive lane as she.
5. She came across like Bernie- strident and uncompromising. If Mayor Pete were the student in the front row who always raised his hand with the correct answer, Liz Warren was the teacher who always told you that you had the wrong answer.
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So, she did the same things the remaining male candidates do but, being a woman, she shouldn’t have.
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@JSBNoWI
Not really. She clearly took the lead in relentlessly attacking Bloomberg- the others merely piled on. More importantly, her strategy was just stupid- it didn't help her. She also took the lead harping on the wine cave. Again, the others piled on. Frankly, I find Bernie more strident and annoying but he benefited from owning the progressive lane for the last 4 years and his uncompromising and unwavering commitment to his ideas. As I mentioned, Warren tried to have it both ways and lost progressives and moderates as a result.
She shouldn’t take the lead or have original thought or express an argument that is off or on the mark? In other words, step back, little lady and let money talk.
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I hear the many calls for Warren as the right VP pick for Joe Biden’s Presidential campaign. And since Joe now seems to be heading toward winning the nomination, this issue may be the most important one of his candidacy.
Warren probably was the most qualified among the numerous Presidential candidates, but what became clear is that this race was not about making history or achieving a revolution but about who could bring us together as a nation and Joe Biden is that person. Biden’s VP pick could make all the difference to the future of this country.
With all due respect, Warren is just too old. Kamala Harris is a lightweight. Klobuchar has only regional support. The one person who could move things forward as the perfect VP as well as a prospective POTUS candidate in 2024 is Stacey Abrams.
Abrams, with her B.A. from a historically black college, her MPA from UTexas and her Yale Law School degree, together with her accomplishments in the Georgia State legislature, covers all the bases. Abrams is smart and articulate. She is the woman we need to break the barrier and become our first woman President.
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Persist, Ms Warren, PERSIST!!!
I am heartbroken. For her, for women, for progressives, for middle-class americans. For all who she has fought for.
I hope Biden has enough sense to choose Elizabeth Warren as her running mate, and that she accepts.
Seems this chauvinistic society needs baby steps to join the rest of the world when it comes to having a woman as President.
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Time for ranked choice voting in the Democratic primary. In any scenario with more than two candidates, the current system favors extremes and doesn’t reflect what people really want. Warren’s problem was less her own flaws than the flaws in the voting structure. Points for being a second choice would be more likely to deliver a solid candidate like Warren or indeed many of the other superior also-rans.
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I like Warren. I donated to her this year and I haven't to either Biden or Sanders. The problem is that I think that what she offered isn't really what this time was looking for.
A lot of people break down the election into centrist vs progressive and the position Warren on the Progressive spectrum. But this is a fundamental mischaracterization of the 2020 (and the 2016) election.
Biden's candidacy represent a kind of referendum on the Trump Presidency, every bit as much as the 2018 election was.
Whereas, Bernie's campaign would be exactly the same if Trump had never come along. In fact his voters, spiritually speaking, are closer to Trump voters than they are to being traditional progressives. His campaign is a referendum on the Democratic party itself. This is Bernie's strength and his weakness.
As such, the hope and dream of having a woman president, or even having medicare for all, positions that Warren represented, were still strictly speaking, under the aegis of traditional Democrat politics.
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I'm her demographic - college educated, graduate degreed, professional white woman.
I was strongly interested in her when was talking about reforming capitalism.
She lost me with her "turn to wokeness" when she started tweeting things like "pregnant people" and support for male-bodied trans women in women's sports. As a woman myself, and a mother of daughters, how could I get excited about a woman president who linguistically erases us from our own experiences and destroys REAL opportunities for my daughters?
And her dismissal of the man who challenged her on her plan to forgive debt - while he saved and paid his own way - was also a massive turn off.
Overall, she just spent way to much time embracing the costal activist crowd and the "blue checks" on Twitter while at the same time coming off as callous and aloof to the every day concerns of regular Americans.
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She did not linguistically erase you! Inclusion and a better understanding of gender fluidity does not hurt women.
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@A F
I'm an everyday American and I think the well being of my daughters is more threatened by the fact that they are not fairly represented in government than by the manufactured threat that trans females are going to take away their access to competitive sports.
Warren is a mom and I'm quite certain she knows where babies grow.
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@ AF Excellent points! Spot on.
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We love Bailey Warren too!
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She was the smartest person in the race... bummer we can’t seem to have a female president. She’s hands down smarter than everyone else running. Hope she’s given a great job in the new administration.
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@Gwendolyn Hammond
"She was the smartest person in the race"
Perhaps. Pete Buttigieg is highly intelligent as well.
But that is apparently not what wins elections.
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I hope Warren gets picked as VP by the remaining candidates. I would love to see her debate Pence, she would wipe the floor with his smug face. Mother would have to step in to fight her.
She would be the perfect foil for Biden, who I suspect, is not all there and with Bernie in case he does not last the full term and promises only one term as President.
In fact Biden and Bernie should sign up to be a one term candidate if their egos would allow it.
In Trump's case I plan to start a gofundme to send him a couple of dozen burgers, ice cream and chocolate cake every day for midnight snacks, maybe even Melania would contribute. That may speed up his exit to youknowwhere.
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Women in 1/3 of the states had an opportunity to support her through voting and failed to do so. I have to conclude that women deserve to have decisions made for them by old white men who yell a lot.
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@Claire
Women have been trained to vote against their interests and do not undercount the numbers who are traumatized by various abuses into something along the lines of Stockholm syndrome.
Regardless, I think you need to look at it from a different angle: Women voted for what they thought is best for the whole regardless of their wants and needs. Old white men, and young ones too, never do.
Warren would be the perfect VP pick now
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@Jeff
SANDERS/WARREN 2020....!!!!
How ironic: as I was reading this article about Sen. Warren dropping out, the Times served me up an ad to “Join us in Washington to celebrate women’s suffrage.”
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I'm glad she dropped out because at this stage she has no path to nomination. People had their say in Super Tuesday.
I also find the following truly asinine and disingenuous:
"Commentator 1: Warren dropped out because of factors x,y,z."
"Commentator 2: We know you didn't vote for Warren because you don't want a woman elected."
This (rampant identity and gender politics) is one of the reasons why people voted for Trump in 2016, and why they will vote for him in 2020. Everyone's so triggered and ready to attack another without really listening to and digesting what the other is saying. Extremes are overtaking our reality.
That's why people are voting Biden. He's not remarkable and he represents the normalcy. That's exactly what WH needs in November to cleanse itself of that rotten orange man's stench. 4 years of Biden to pull things together, then people would be happy to have a 4 years of Warren, Harris, Sanders etc.
That's what majority of voters want. They had their say on Super Tuesday. Warren lost. It has very little to do with her being a woman. It has a lot to do with what she's done as of late to make herself less electable. Bloomberg and Pete attacks, Medicare For All etc.
By the way, I was going to vote for Amy Klobuchar because she has the best record of passing bills out of all candidates. She would've worked with both GOP and Dems. And she was the best candidate to win the swing states in midwest. Hope Biden picks her up for the VP position.
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In my fifty years of following politics, Warren is the most unappealing candidate in my memory. Arrogant, relentlessly negative, transparently entitled and always, always angry.
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@TWW
I would be equally arrogant and entitled if I was a Harvard Law professor even if I did get the gig by claiming to be Native American as Warren did.
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@TWW
Speaking of memory, remember Mr. Trump? Bernie? Biden?
People threatened by her see her as angry. These people feel entitled to not feeling threatened and it is scary for them. (This is typical and always women, minorities and all oppressed are not allowed to be angry while white males can scream their heads off and be seen as serene.) People who feel for the first time represented by someone see Warren as mild mannered and positive.
The latter are correct.
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In defense of our current situation, there is a tremendous amount to be angry about. If you aren’t angry, you aren’t paying attention.
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Warren lacked being a man. Her ideas were as good as many, but she was unable to widen her tent. She turned off blacks with her LGBT virtue signaling and Bernie is doing this as well (this is the truth white people - accept this).The Democrats are in trouble. Biden will fail. Better to nominate Bernie. At least he has a manly voice, he just needs to call black people either black Americans or African Americans - stop calling us people of color for everyone has color (even white people, hence the name - white people). Lastly, Biden seems to have dementia. He will not win by just stating he is the alternative to Trump. People, potential voters, have to have a reason to vote for someone. Also, many people like Trump, he is entertaining. Biden, not at all.
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Many people are sick of “entertainment”. A reality show host in charge of addressing the Covid-19? Entertaining?
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What more to say than.....you are a “class act Sen Warren”! Sorry to see you go, but I have full faith-You WILL be back!
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Turns out Bernie was right ....
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@ssstrom
Bernie knows his stuff! I always thought Elizabeth looked up to him?
@ssstrom It's been shown that Bernie like thinking actually causes women to not be elected. That whole episode was doubly in his favor.
It was a legit discussion to have, but Bernie silenced Warren by calling her what all men feel entitled to call women without cause or evidence - a liar.
(So much for Bernie being progressive - only for half of us, I guess.)
Whereas we just assume men are liars and don't seem to care. We elect them in spades anyway.
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This is not about gender! Please stop making it about whether someone is white, black, man, woman!
The best candidate will be chosen, period!
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@Invictum: And yet, the United States still hasn't had even a female VP, and both candidates left standing are men over the age of 75. I think it's time to look a little deeper.
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@Invictum
"The best candidate will be chosen, period!"
The best candidate just quit the race.
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Biden/Warren could work out just like Ronald/Nancy.
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Republicans
I'm so tired of all this self-flagellation because there are no women -- Gabbard is a non-player -- left in the race. Until recently there were three front runners, one an out-gay man. Now there is a committed Catholic and a Jew. A woman won the nomination last go-round. Anyway, what is so terrible about white men?
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Bernie will never ake it past the 40 yd. line..
Go Joe,, You've got this...
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Didn't like her attack on Bloomberg in the first debate and then the second (kind of beating a dead horse at that point).
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Can't stand her. I hope she heads back to the reservation and disappears!
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How was Elizabeth Warren ever the front runner if performed poorly from the very beginning, the Iowa caucus, and onward? You literally can't be a front runner before the race has started.
Anyway, good riddance.
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Two great articles address the reason Warren ended her candidacy.
For a very thoughtful article see: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/03/america-punished-elizabeth-warren-her-competence/607531/
Also, for a great satire, see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/16/im-fine-with-women-in-power-just-not-this-one-specific-woman-currently-in-power/
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I took a poll of how well my issues aligned with the candidates and Warren came out on top. I love her courage and many of her ideas. BUT, there came a point early on where she appeared to become unhinged. The flailing arms and the uncombed hair made her seem undisciplined and slightly around the bend. It's nice to have great ideas for the betterment of society, but first we have to get rid of the orange ogre. PRAGMATISM must be the watchword in this election and wild haired reformers of either sex are not going to appeal to the majority of the voters. Our democracy is at stake here folks. Please be sensible and vote for Biden. We can change the world next time.
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I wonder if she lost support after her brutal attack on Mike Bloomberg. Like Senator Harris did after her attack her Vice President Biden.
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Endorse Biden!!! It only makes the most sense!!
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Because the one who helped create The American Oligarchy is what we need more of?
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@Leah More conspiratorial, Bernie-supporting nonsense.
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What would Franck’s Crozier & James Fitzjames do??
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Too bad -she was the best of the lot.
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Very sad. Now we’re left with two very old, very white men. One an irritating, angry crank. The other a bland, senile used-to-be. We had such a strong, and varied field. What is wrong with the Democratic primaries that we end up with the two retreads?
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Why she was my most disliked candidate?She pulled the women card not as much as HRC but much too often.Lier.Endorsed HRC in 2016.Endorsed by the NYT Editorial Board
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The smartest person in the room has left the building.
As a country, we should be embarrassed.
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Where was the sexism? If anyone is sexist it is Warren who blames men for just about everything. But that is not sexist? She should stop injecting a person's sex into every conversation she has. It is really ugly on her part.
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Read closely: This is more an opinion piece (in praise of Elizabeth Warren) than a straight news story. It belongs on the editorial page.
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I’m not shedding any tears for Warren, or as Trump calls her “Pocahontas” - she racially misappropriated Native American heritage for decades and as a minority, that is very offensive to me.
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If she endorses Biden I want my money back.
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Elizabeth, I wish you had stayed in the race long enough to have at least one 3-person debate with those two codgers and given them a run for their money. I know you would have out shined them both.
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Don't settle for anything less than VP
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Empress of All Creation perhaps?
It doesn't matter who Warren endorses. The only thing that matters is that we ALL get behind the Democratic nominee regardless of who they are (I'm talking to you, Bernie bros).
We have to defeat the autocrat in the White House or our country will be lost. Don't let the Russian trolls (or Kremlin agent Trump) divide us. That's their game plan.
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Biden / Warren ticket sounds good.
I’d love to watch warren debate Pence.
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She's just the best.
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The bigger question is who will Elizabeth endorse?
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Actions speak louder than words. And words are cheap. This moment will settle it once and for all. Was Liz running to help the American people with desperately needed policies, or to pull votes away from us finally evening the playing field? Your move, Liz. Please prove me wrong. Show us you weren’t lying all along.
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“Elizabeth Warren, Once a Front-Runner, Drops Out of Presidential Race”
The way for Warren to drop back in the race is: Warren endorses Biden, then Biden will make her the Vice President!
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She's as classy as they come.
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Elizabeth Warren bothered me. Take her attack on Mike Bloomberg where she blew things out of proportion and tried to paint him as a sexist pig.
With the non-disclosure agreements, Mike Bloomberg was involved in only 3 cases, and he released the women from their agreement in those cases. They weren't cases against him personally for sexual harassment, but instead against the company for creating a hostile workplace, and he was cited as contributing to that by making sexist remarks.
None of those women chose to come forward, so we don't know what they would say, but there is no evidence that Mike Bloomberg is anything like Donald Trump. Elizabeth Warren blew the whole thing out of proportion and demanded more of him. What else was he supposed to do, he asked. Good question.
Elizabeth Warren did the same thing with Bernie Sanders when she accused him of making a sexist remark. She blew it all out of proportion and then said he accused her of being a liar on national television.
That's mean. That's vicious. I don't think it's disqualifying, and Elizabeth Warren has her good points. But it is disappointing, and I'm not sad to see her go. Good riddance.
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@John Smithson
Ya...poor, poor Mr. Bloomberg.
Creating and maintaining a hostile workplace is not exactly a mini-crime. What do you think makes it possible for more direct abuses?
Bernie was in the wrong for groundlessly accusing Warren of lying. He could have merely opened up a more in depth conversation of "electability" and gender but he deflected and, literally, pointed the finger.
It is hardly mean and vicious to call out institutional sexism and raise a topic for discussion. These matters destroy lives and affect the lives of all females - half the nation!
I can't believe this needs to be said in the context of Warren's remarkable skill set and vision complete with step by step plans.
But you know, it's like a person claiming they aren't racist if they haven't lynched anyone and they have a black friend. So many think they are not sexist because, well, they really like girls.
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@John Smithson And it also seriously damaged the Democratic Party. All my Republican friends joke that she was doing a great job campaigning for Donald Trump. They're not far off..
Hey NY Times, why "Ms. Warren" and "Senator Bernie Sanders"? Senator Warren is a senator too. from the story: "She entered the race railing against the corrosive power of big money, and one long-term consequence of her campaign is that Ms. Warren demonstrated that someone other than Senator Bernie Sanders, and his intensely loyal small-dollar donors, could fund a credible presidential campaign without holding fund-raisers."
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“Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont vows a moratorium on deportations and a move to “break up” ICE. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts joined him in pledging to make border crossings a civil, not criminal offense, before leaving the race this week.Both would include undocumented migrants in their plans for universal health insurance” -NYT
I will not vote for candidates who want to break up ICE and are not committed to enforcing our immigration laws. I want to prosecute employers who hire illegal workers. I want a point system like Australia, Canada, and now the UK has implemented. It’s sensible and required in our changing world.
We can’t pay for healthcare with 30 million low-skilled workers who require welfare for 30 years. We already have too many homeless and native born low-skilled workers we are accountable for (and failing) as Americans.
Democrats try to bully Americans by saying “that’s racist”. It’s not working anymore. When you say that, I know you are either in bed with the rich CEOs who exploit people or a dummy.
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You know what I'd really like to see, and Bernie alluded to this yesterday, get rid of (or significantly reduce) these stupid debates with moderators asking questions solely to drive ratings & creating nothing but a food fight. Short 30 sec answers to complicated issues provides voters with zero insight into a candidates policies. Also too many issues we're completely ignored....like CLIMATE CHANGE!
I would much prefer individual, indepth interviews with each one outlining their ideas on various policy issues. Maybe we Citizens can then begin to be truly informed voters and vote for competency vs "likeability". Maybe Warren would (& others) have had a better chance at being heard.
Warren Supporter.
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Her attacks on Bloomberg don't seem to have helped her much.
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But they have helped us. He was not able to buy the nomination, and we owe her a great debt for that.
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Americans just lost their chance to have one the best President's in our history.
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The race has shown the type of person she really is, plain childish and dishonest, opportunistic and dumb. The type of character she has is the type that won't do anything unless she gains something from it. To me, her lack of endorsement to Sanders only shows Sanders won't negotiate or yield to anything she wants to gain from it. Sanders already showed with his "hard no" to Bloomberg's money he won't put anything on stake to gain any support. Only honest person in the race is Sanders. Had thought that accusation to Biden over influence peddling to benefit family were false but the more I read, the more convinced I am. Any serious person should at least investigate, read work of Schweizer on Biden corruption and not dismiss. the Democratic Party smells pretty bad other than for one person: Bernie. He's honest and that's what matters most. Warren is a big dissapointment, and her endorsement irrelevant for any intelligent person.
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“Her departure means that a Democratic field that began as the most diverse in American history — and included six women — is now essentially down to two white men: former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Senator Bernie Sanders.”
This is an important point, but is it third sentence important? Is Biden’s and Sanders’s whiteness (and maleness) the primary meaning of Warren’s departure? Had this identity observation come later in the article instead of first thing, my reaction would be more contemplative than emotional.
Why? It’s like this... NYT favors Democrats; NYT disfavors white males; therefore Democrats disfavor white males. This train of thought, flawed but real, sends folks like me to the ballot box feeling like a vote for a Democrat is a vote to endorse disfavoring white males.
Identity-based reporting makes me secretly want Trump to win DESPITE his despicable behavior.
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In the near future, someone one in USA should award a Medal of Honor to Mike Bloomberg.
To justify such a high commendation we have to think that 2020 USA election can be compared to WW1 where soldier Mike, volunteers first to go on a suicide mission to lay dynamite sticks to destroy the first barbed wire barrier of the (Trump’s) fortress.
Next suicide mission would be brought forward by the brave infantry soldier Bernie, who with a flame-thrower will neutralize the trenches, in order for Joe’s Army to attack with his troops along this safe corridor and finally conquer the enemy stronghold.
The incumbent POTUS who is, reportedly, believing that flu vaccine provokes Autism and who deems Global Warming just a fairy tales, deserves to be attacked by all american soldiers, be it the brave Mike, Bernie or Elisabeth: no way out apart this.
And, of course, after the victory, the Army Corps General Joe Biden should read the last wills left in the barracks by all the fallen braves, to apply some of their advices for the next much wider front of battle.
Actually months before I had some doubts about Joe Biden for his tarnished image by the Ukraine “affair”, and for his old age.
Nowadays, the first one revealed itself a messy meddling by the USA administration; as for his age - which for sure would suggest for him just a single term – I am comforted by the fact that intelligent and responsible Presidents, the like of Obama, choose intelligent and responsible Vice-Presidents.
Reality check it be great if she used her voice an endorse tulsi Gabbard . Men have done not thing since carter free working men an women. Both candidates could pull it off as president an Vice President. We need 100 percent vote guys won’t have chance all hoping people don’t vote Easy to get into office
Warren's decline was not a death by a few cuts, not 1,000 as the story claims. And one of the most consequential of them was the platform that this paper gave to columnist Steven Rattner to spread the rumor that Wall St. Dems would vote Trump if Warren got the nomination. Warren was on a tear in the summer/fall, and Wall St. panicked that their days of robbing Main St. were over. So Rattner, who is Bloomberg's money manager -- though this paper -- oops --- doesn't identify him as such -- wrote a column calling a Warren presidency a "terrifying prospect." At the same time, Rattner and friends called reporters elsewhere and are quoted all over the popular and business press saying Warren will tank the economy and that Bloomberg should ride in on a white horse and save the day. And then -- just as the propaganda effort begins to bear fruit and Warren's star starts to fade -- Bloomberg enters the race. Fortunately, Warren got back at Bloomberg, but the damage was done. Equally troubling was that so many of my fellow women -- including Hillary loyalists -- fell for the scam. Warren was head and shoulders above Hillary as a candidate. Approachable, principled, clear about her plans and almost no baggage compared to Hillary's moving van full. So sad.
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If she was a man she would be the nominee.
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Sexism has become subtler and more insidious, but it's far from gone.
In 2016 I remember folks saying "It's not like I have a problem with women candidates, I just don't like Hillary because she shrill and unlikable. I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat." Now in 2020 we see "It's not like I have a problem with women candidates, I just don't like Warren! She's so shrill and unlikable. I'd vote for Michelle Obama in a heartbeat."
Everyone says they'd vote for a woman, but never THIS woman. This particular woman made unforgivable mistakes, she's condescending, she's heartless, she's rude, she's shrill, they just don't like her. Rinse, repeat.
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Would be great if we could vote on each of the candidates record and 10 simple points of depicting what they stand for but we never meet the person, it’s anonymous.
Amazing how folks still feel they need to have a president they would hang out with. The dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
My heart aches for Warren, but I will vote BLUE no matter who
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We need the equivalent “blind auditions” in politics, perhaps starting with the debate stage. See this and many other studies about eliminating gender bias in orchestras:
https://www.theguardian.com/women-in-leadership/2013/oct/14/blind-auditions-orchestras-gender-bias
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We need the equivalent “blind auditions” in politics, perhaps starting with the debate stage. See this and many other studies about eliminating gender bias in orchestras:
https://www.theguardian.com/women-in-leadership/2013/oct/14/blind-auditions-orchestras-gender-bias
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She would've been a great President.
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She was always only her own "front runner", as America is not yet ready for a "female" President of her capacity and ability, and for that, we are infinitely thankful!
If we were a better people, we would have elected Elizabeth Warren.
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So many people here whining and complaining that Warren wasn't nice to the boys. Boo hoo. Now it's "pick one of the boys NOW Liz, or else." There is no purpose at this point for her to endorse one or the other. I'm sure when the nominee arises from this dead heap she'll support him. In the mean time, they can wait. It's up to them to use their awesome powers to win. More importantly from now until November is that everybody should use their effort and money, no matter what state you live in, to throw out the republican Senate and keep the House blue. Want to make a difference today? Donate to Amy McGrath NOW.
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I am sorry I didn’t have the honor of voting for Elizabeth Warren.
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If only she and Biden had the chutzpah to take on HRC in 2016 we could have avoided all of this. Bernie would have never ran
Looking forward to the debates and seeing Biden trying to think of a witty response to Trump's childish attacks, but only coming off as having a mild form of Tourette's and dementia.
She's most politically similar to Bernie. She should definitely endorse Bernie, but more realistically would need to fall in line with the DNC's demands for Biden to win the nomination. Sad state of affairs in this country.
I believe warren’s campaign was damaged by her woker-than-thou pandering to hard left social liberals. For example, her promise to have a trans person approve her sec of education pick and the sneering contempt she showed for opponents of same sex marriage at the lgbt town hall may play well at Harvard and the New York Times but the simple truth is millions of blue collar and minority voters find her moralistic approach to these issues to be alienating. That said, I’m not suggesting she needs to become Phyllis schlafly, she just needs to communicate to those who are more culturally conservative than her that she doesn’t hate them.
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She lost because she was politically inept-- she doesn't know everything and she is not the enforcer in chief which is what her words and actions conveyed.
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You put up a good fight, Sen Warren, thank you.
Please stay on in government; we need a lot more like you!
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This is too important to be about gender. Other candidates immediately threw their weight behind the candidate who represents the policies they are fighting for. Was Liz lying all along, or will she continue to fight, as all the other candidates have, until the American people can live in a less brutal society? Her move. Hundreds of millions of lives depend on this. Oligarchy or representative democracy? Actions speak louder than words. What will it be, Liz?
If Elizabeth Warren doesn’t endorse Bernie, her word is nothing.
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She was too shrill. And her attack on Bloomberg really turned me off.
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Not that it isn't fair to question the diversity of the current running, but to call Bernie Sanders a "white man" without the context of also being Jewish is unfair as though to whom it is negative will not forget. We've never had a Jewish president, or even vice president. Pretending that that's not a big deal, or important to diversity in America, is ignoring rampant antisemitism at best and participating at worst.
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Good riddance.
Warren is part of the rigged system about which she complains.
She reportly makes $500K per year teaching one session of one course per sememter. And she wants a student debt forgiveness program that lets the schools off the hook. She is part of the higher ed racket and is colluding with the schools.
Warren and her husband have networth of $10M. She's a 1 percenter. But she proposes a wealth tax with a high enough threshold so she is exempt.
She is against school choice but sent her son to private school.
She is a gun control freak but surrounds herself with an armed security detail - the Secret Service.
She rails on about global warming but jets around on private planes.
George Orwell could not have written it any better.
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Clearly would have been an outstanding President. A huge loss for our nation. March 5, 2020. Sad day.
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Sigh... the best candidate by far.
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Senator Elizabeth Warren drops out of the race.
Amy Klobuchar, another senator from Minnesota, had dropped out earlier. Amy didn't endorse a female fellow senator, Elizabeth Warren, but she favored the former Vice President, Joe Biden.That revealed how much confidence she had in Elizabeth Warren.
New York Times endorsed these two ladies who are now out of the reckoning. Kudos to the farsightedness of our favorite newspaper which solicited the Democrats to rally around EW or AK.
Warren is now under scanner and being analyzed thoroughly as she is down and out. Her approach vis-a-vis Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders is not clear so far. She says she needs more time to think.
If she endorses Joe Biden, she distances herself from the image she has built up as belonging to the radical left. If she endorses Sanders, she will be seen going closer to the person who had once allegedly told her that a woman couldn't be the President of the USA.
The fact that the Democratic primary field (once very diverse) is now left with the two White men over age 75 tells us that the US isn't ready for a woman president and Joe Biden's surge suggests that even the Democratic party isn't prepared to go too far to the left.
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Well, the masters of the universe on Wall Street, the big banks, the financial services industry, the credit card companies, vampire capitalists, tax dodgers and unprincipled corporatists -- including their ever-eager political enablers -- are delighted.
Yet another great day for unbridled greed in America.
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I feel kinda sad for Warren. She really worked for this.
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The democratic primary is still diverse if one looks beyond the obvious age and sex of the Joe and Bernie. A diversity of philosophy, ideas, and agendas. This time around that’s got to be enough.
None of her Democratic rivals ever brought up her lies about her ancestry and the lie she kept telling of losing her teaching job because she was pregnant. Trump would have used this against her and even if she denied these ,lies to high heaven, it would have resonated with many and in the end she would have lost big time.
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Elizabeth Warren should have been the front runner. She is a smart, pragmatic progressive who ran an excellent campaign. Her perceived and media-magnified “flaws” were insignificant compared to the dumpster fire in the White House. Her fall was misogyny, pure and simple. Not even ugly misogyny, except from the Bernie Bros. It was just a fear that “oh my God, a woman will never beat Trump.” It was men thinking she sounded too smart and “school-marmish”. It was the ghost of Hillary.
No, sadly, America is not ready for a woman president. 100 years of women’s suffrage, and we’ve still got a LOT of work to do. I supported and voted for Warren. I’m proud that I did.
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How disappointing. She was the candidate who had the makings of a great president and in my view was the right person at the right time. She was not a great campaigner, and made some flubs, not more than the rest of them, but a large proportion of the blame in my book goes to television news and punditry, who : 1) Still has the nerve to tell voters who is and is not electable so persistently that voters begin repeating and believing this even though it’s coming from the same people who told us Trump would never win.
2) Demeaning and irrelevant debate formats and questions that do their best to put candidates at each others throats while avoiding substantive and relevant questions that would allow them to distinguish their platforms.
3) Talking heads, the networks, CNN, Fox of course, even MSNBC especially Chuck Todd, who simply refused to give Warren’s speeches airtime while other candidates with far less support like Bloomberg or Klobuchar, got far more.
4) And, concertedly writing Warren off after Iowa - IOWA! - that one has to ask why?
My guess is that she, much more than Bernie, represented an effective threat to their big fat corporate bottom lines. I will vote for the candidate that picks Warren as a running mate, because we’re now left with two very flawed alternatives.
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It’s infuriating that in my 58 years so far on this planet, growing up during the major civil rights movements of the 60s and 70s, and with excellent female candidates in recent years, that we still haven’t had a female president.
To those saying Warren not getting enough votes was unrelated to her gender, are you suggesting that we haven’t had a female president yet in US history because no women were qualified? Really?
There’s something seriously wrong with this picture.
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I am sick to death of hearing complaints about two old white men, especially when people state that a woman can't win.
We already know that a man of color can win. Barack Obama did it.
We also already know that a woman can win. Hillary Clinton beat Trump by 3 million votes. And if 3 out of every 10,000 votes cast in 2016 had gone the other way, she would be in the Oval Office today.
Basing my vote on electability, she was my 6th choice, just ahead of Biden. My first five choices (based on electability, all qualified straight white men from the heartland, under 70 years of age) all failed to gain support. She failed to gain support.
Biden will be the nominee and he can beat Trump. There is a keyword that will put him over the top: Cruelty. Just remind Americans that we are not a cruel country and Trump will disappear into the dustbin of history, even though it will take time to undo the damage.
Dan Kravitz
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I hope that whoever wins the Democratic primary chooses Elizabeth Warren to be their VP candidate. I know it has been called the worst job in politics but it all depends on how much responsibility they are given. Senator Warren would be an outstanding asset to any president. I think she was among the best candidates running for president.
Of course, it is not lost on anyone that the two top Democratic candidates are currently 77 and 78 years old.
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warren is out for the same reason that sanders momentum has stopped. the majority of americans are not going to vote for a socialist. her proposals smacked of socialism just like sanders, but she was not as consistent in her socialist ideology and so lost out to sanders. in the battle of ideologies the most consistent advocate wins. so warren would do well to endorse biden if the the dems plan to win in november.
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To those suggesting Warren join a Biden or Sanders ticket, I say that she is much more useful as a sitting Senator than as a largely ceremonial VP.
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A sad day here. It's good to have the Times Comments section to share my grief with my compatriots. I think Warren is smart to hold off before endorsing someone. She is smart and needs to think this through. I hope it's Biden because the country needs healing more than it divisiveness and Bernie is more focused on bringing down the establishment than fixing it.
At any rate Warren did a heroic job and she will not be forgotten. Where she goes from here has got to be up.
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I like and respect Elizabeth Warren a great deal. If she had become the Democratic nominee, I would have enthusiastically supported her. She is a great Senator. And I appreciate her running for president, and everything that she contributed.
That all said ...
If you supported Warren on policy, you should now support Sanders. Their policy positions are nearly identical.
If you supported Warren, but are now supporting Biden, then you supported Warren as a personality -- not on policy. That's fine. Just be honest, and admit that to yourself.
I will vote for whomever is the eventual Democratic nominee. But I will vote for Sanders in my state's primary on March 24.
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She was good in every way except one: she was an Elizabethan Revenge Tragedy, and couldn't let go of her determination to dig up the distant past.
Warren’s best move now is to refrain from endorsing either Biden or Sanders and to free her supporters to vote their conscience, with a firm pledge to actively support whoever wins the nomination.
Democratic voters must come together to defeat Putin’s Poodle - a second term would undermine the foundations of American democracy in ways that would take a generation to reverse and repair.
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Thank you, Senator Warren for your many years of service to our country.
Thank you for your intelligence, your honesty, your moral clarity, for your advocacy, and for persisting.
This country needs a woman President, and will get one, eventually. I wish you could have been the first. And who knows? Maybe you will.
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I’m only going to say this once:
Liz, please endorse Bernie quickly.
I’d like to see you as his VP. He’s offering a once in a lifetime chance to get a single payer system in this country. Even if that doesn’t pass (we all know it requires lots of new voters turning out), he’s also offering a transformative economic and environmental ‘green’ hope.
We need your plans! We also need you to protect the Federal Reserve system from wingnut attacks.
Please offer to join up with Bernie. You’ll make an awesome team!
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The political and media powers that be have been delighted to make Warren as invisible as possible though they've all ramped up their energy to gleefully discuss her demise.
I'm thinking she should skip endorsing anyone. It's just too frustrating a time for her voice to suddenly begin to matter.
Let the guys duke in out. It's kinda their problem now though frankly neither one seems up to the task.
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For Democrats to win in November, the party needs to find ways to motivate both progressive and moderate voters in a critical election. If Biden becomes the nominee, a unity ticket of Biden and Warren would bring in her supporters and possibly some Sanders voters. This would create some challenges, but it could be part of a bridge that is needed for the party going forward.
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@Martha Reis I forgot to include a critical point: Sanders said in an interview with Rachel Maddow that he was not interested in
a unity ticket.
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@Martha Reis
Sure, if Warren is allowed to develop a plan to redefine the role of VP. Otherwise better she remains in the Senate or gets an appointment appropriate to her skill set.
Warren failed the progressive movement and betrayed her stated principles by not endorsing the remaining progressive. She will show her true colors again when she accepts a cabinet position which will allow the Republican governor to give her Senate seat to a Republican. But at least she’s a woman!
I have been contributing about equally to both Warren and Sanders for more than a year now. I hope she will now endorse Sanders, the only other progressive in this race other than Tulsi Gabbard. If she endorses Biden the Democratic Party establishment (Clinton 2.0) will use her as cover and then sideline her, her values and her policy ideas completely starting the day after the election. She will have no influence, no credibility and no political future whoever wins in November. We need her spirit and leadership for the future, after this election. She must not throw herself away for empty promises.
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Liz Warren's quitting breaks my heart. She would have been a great president. Yet right now a Democrat is running for president while Trump is running for dictator and the GOP has very few patriots and will do nothing to control him. If elected.
This is now a 2 person race. Bernie scares too many voters because he is a revolutionary and to enact what he says the people want requires a congressional majority. Congress enacting what Bernie wants is unlikely and to a somewhat lesser extent the same is true in regard to Liz Warren's plans.
The reason that Warren would endorse Joe Biden is that the key object is to defeat Trump and 2nd maybe for the first 2 or 4 years, even if liberals do not get what they think the the middle and working classes want Joe Biden with some help is likely to get what those people need, like universal affordable health care, a minimum wage that a living wage, restructure the government. reconnect with the world on climate and trade and return honor and expertise to govt..
As I see it Liz Warren should endorse Joe Biden and he should ask her to run for VP. If Biden does not want to serve more than one term Warren runs to succeed him and Cabinet member Pete runs as VP with 4 years of administrative experience.
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Sheldon, this is a great idea!
Warren under no obligation nor with much power to unite the party. An endorsement of either candidate certain to disappoint supporters of the other. The well scripted Biden endorsements no a script for Warren. A breathless endorsement on the eve of the Michigan primary appearing with either candidate unseemly.
Her loss in Massachusetts suggest she has work to do nearer to home serving those who elected her to the Senate.
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Elizabeth Warren ran an organized and intelligent campaign and is honest, brilliant, principled, and diligent and can get things done for struggling Americans. This article outlines everything that went wrong with her campaign, but the real problems are a) she is a woman and b) she has the courage to stand up to the billionaires who control this country. Warren is the perfect candidate except for one fatal flaw in this country - she is female.
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She should do what Barack Obama is doing, hold off endorsing anyone until democrat voters decide.
Her failed campaign has little to do with being a woman, remember Hillary was the nominee in 2016 over Sanders. It should be obvious that even in the democrat party the majority are moderates and Biden will not only be the nominee, but has the best chance to defeat Trump.
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Regardless of whether Biden or Bernie is the next president, I would love to see Warren as the next Secretary of Treasury. I can’t think of anyone who would strike more fear into regulation-resistant financial institutions or tax loophole exploiters (hi Don) than Elizabeth Warren.
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@Chris Assuming I'm remembering* correctly even if vaguely;-} . . . Treasury Secretary is the position Elizabeth Warren had hoped for re 2016 election. *(Per NYT Magazine article some time back -- a good one about her.)
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If Ms. Warren maintained the calm and poise exhibited exiting the Presidential race during the race she may have gone farther.
Calm, decisive, purposeful and able- slow but steady wins the race- is what voters are looking for in 2020. The hyperbole, gotcha moments, slash and burn are very limited techniques especially for a woman- it is just true. President Trump suffers the consequences of that method.
I tend to believe Sen. Warren will not support Sen. Saunders because he will not win. In order to further her agenda for progress and fairness: you have to win the election. It is sobering perhaps to the "true believers" or maybe the tempting word is: "sell-out".
The reality of transcendent changes is time and patience, winning and losing, while still pushing forward even though it hurts.
I remember reading in my youth, Dr. King's "Stride Towards Freedom". And I absorbed the struggle of "people sick and tired of being sick and tired" who used their bodies, at great risk (Strange Fruit), with deep conviction and faith to pursue principles of freedom; freedoms that those participating in the "Movement" would probably never personally enjoy.
The romanticized idea of change is: "all you have to do is..." The truth is: the process of progression and changes takes years, generations and lifetimes. The Montgomery Bus Boycott started in 1955 and ended over a year later with untold sacrifices still felt - not romantic but a hard rain.
Thanks for doing your part Sen. Warren.
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“Strange Fruit” was a song about lynching, not a song about people in the civil rights movement. It is only indirectly related.
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@USCitizen
We all know calm and poise is what gets men elected - and Biden and Bernie are the epitome.
Warren has been, far and away, the most dignified among the candidates.
Calling out Bloomberg was a moral imperative that others failed to meet. And, referring to a person's behaviors is hardly eviscerating. It is Bloomberg's behavior that is regrettable.
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As a lifelong progressive -- and one surrounded by many more here in Berkeley -- nobody I know supports Bernie Sanders. His 'my way or the highway' attitude and his utter lack of specificity in how any of his grand plans might be implemented are very alienating to us. Elizabeth Warren is much too important to the progressive movement to hitch her wagon to his falling star.
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The progressives very badly need to remember that they are in a democracy. They're too ready to act like the conservative and moderate parts of our country should be ignored because they are wrong (the same view as the conservatives have of them, BTW). But those people vote and must be considered.
Warren was a reasonable progressive, but progressives seem to badly want an extremist, because they are right and tired of waiting - but that isn't something they can do. You have to be able to compromise, to speak to both sides, to HEAR AND LISTEN to both sides.
Terry Pratchett, Night Watch had it right - "People on the side of The People always ended up disappointed, in any case. They found that The People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient. The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people."
That's the problem with uncompromising idealists - but today the progressives seem to want the uncompromising idealist - and Warren wasn't it. To put a progressive extreme against a conservative extreme is a huge gamble I don't want to make with, to put it bluntly, my family, my kids, my country, my planet, all of which will be massively harmed by another Trump presidency.
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So the answer is to continue to vote for neoliberals and pretend that they are different from Republicans in order for moderates to feel good about themselves?
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Warren was the thinking man’s candidate. When leading the pack last fall, she let herself be goaded into too much specificity about Medicare for All. It revealed that getting there would most likely cause considerable disruption. Her idea-based campaign overshot the American electorate which cares too much about personality. She recognizes the problems we face and has some good solutions. Like Klobuchar, I hope she returns to the Senate & convinces her colleagues of the need for “big, structural change.” Of course, she’ll need to be in the majority.
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She said that a 9 year old transgender boy could interview her nominees for Secretary of Education and she would follow his recommendations. The “thinking man’s” candidate?
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GC: Ahem. The “thinking WOMAN’s” candidate.
I don't care that she's officially out now. When the primary comes around here she'll get my vote. I just want to have the honor of voting for her at least once.
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There was never a question about Warren being bright ... clearly she is. However, she didn’t come across in a way sufficiently generous for many, in my sense. Sanders is far worse along these lines, btw. And, with the hostile experience of Trump, many are simply tired of all of this ... the toxicity we experience daily under Trump. Much of the nation wants a rest, a calm, a timeout. Warren could have done much better in this regard. For example, in challenging Bloomberg, especially in the next to last “debate,” she acted with extreme aggression and certain rudeness as judge and jury. In some ways she reminds one of Bolton ... also bright, but passionately aggressive. Warren’s talented, yet also passionately aggressive; it’s just not her time, given the disruptive way things are. Hopefully, in a Biden administration she’ll have a place ... even at a strategic Senate location. The main objective for Dems now ought to be to look past differing details about general problems among themselves to be solved for the nation’s health and sake, and unite in concerted effort to dismiss Trump from office with General Election. He’s the rate-limiting step that first needs to be dealt with before any progress can be made.
Never liked her condescending tone. I'm a college educated
white woman, worked shift work in a factory in the '80's,to pay
for that education, and own my own business for 22 yrs.. She talked to us like we were children, not capable of decision making without "free stuff. Now that I will have to pay for "free" I would rather have people invest something in the system to appreciate it. Will always be a Democrat, but thinking we will need a strong third party soon.
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It was a good run and I truly think she has what it takes to be President but the US let sexism overcome sensibility. Elizabeth Warren will be remembered for her stand against government corruption among many other things. We still need her strong voice in the senate and I wish her well going forward.
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Bernie Sanders is running against the status quo and the establishment. But as an old white man who is a millionaire that owns three houses and has been in Congress for 30 years, if that’s not the status quo nothing is.
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Ms Warren, while wonderful on multiple levels, is too far left for the country at this point in time. Period.
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Obviously voters can be wrong. Look at how they voted for Trump.
At least she is our U.S. Senator and she will fight for us, the 99%, in MA. She will also help other women win their races. It is amazing that Americans only want to hear themselves say "Mister President."
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Elizabeth Warren. I was all in for her. She persisted, dang it.
Let me tell you, I trust the women in my life and I trust her. She was and still is more than up to the task of creating prosperity and yes protecting the rights for every American - and that is the real job of the president.
Here's the thing, she was re-elected to the Senate in 2018 for a 6 year term beating her republican opponent by almost 25% points - but Massachusetts has a republican governor.
Her seat is his to give away and that would be a crying shame.
If she signs up to run as someone's VP or takes cabinet position, smiling governor Charlie Baker will appoint / sell her seat to another republican. You can bet your life on that. This means the rest of her hard earned 6 year term will be lost to the very movement she stands for.
Democrats need to take the Senate even more than we need to take the White House.
I personally want to see Mitch McConnell to be the exact size of 1 out of 100 senators - so he can never again tell someone like Elizabeth Warren to shut up and sit down. McConnell has as much if not more power than Trump. As long as the Republicans control the senate - even if he is booted out - someone just like him will be in control of our country.
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Only if she accepts the probable appointment.
@ab2020 I believe that MA law states a special election would be required within 145 days.
I am a very strong Warren supporter -- I voted for her and canvassed for her in NH and MA.
Though my goals and principles are more closely aligned with Bernie's, I think Bernie is a terrible candidate and would be a terrible president. Though Bernie himself is not as extreme or abusive as his supporters (not just his Twitter trolls -- I'm talking about senior campaign staff), he is rigid and inflexible. He radiates anger and seems to have no interest in expanding his coalition. Now that the field has thinned, he has no chance.
I like Joe Biden, and think he would be better than Trump (infinitely!) or Bernie (finitely, but by a lot).
But to be clear, most of the women -- Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, and Kirsten Gillibrand -- would have been better than any of the three old chuckleheads we have been reduced to.
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Bernie should have endorsed Warren. He is a spoiler and the Dems better realize the Socialism brand is a step too far away from winning with most voters. Socialism is Bernie’s religion, not mine.
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All this analysis with no meat on the bone. What it comes down to is Warren wasn't a very inspiring or likable figure, just like Hillary. And now come the excuses. When the country's electorate is hungry for change and you still can't beat out Trump or two old white men, time to look inward and face the awkward truth. Bernie and Biden may seek her endorsement, but I doubt it'll be of consequence either way.
It is a vastly misplaced hope that any candidate - especially Biden - is going to choose Warren as his running mate. That spot is almost certainly going to go to a black woman; three names are already being talked about, and Kamala Harris has been calculating how to get that post from the moment she dropped out of the race.
Shumer is pushing hard for that. The powers that be think that Biden and a black woman VP would seal the deal against Trumpence because it would further stimulate turnout in the black community. This has all been reported in many places.
The Dems don't give a whit about progressives and it's a mistake to think that anyone in the mainstream Democratic party does. They want us defeated, under the carpet, out of sight, co-opted wherever possible and forgotten. The DNC and Biden don't need Warren on the ticket to attract progressives because those who are already 'blue no matter who" are going to hold their noses and vote for Biden just to get rid of Trump, and those who can't bring themselves to vote for Biden will either sit it out or vote for a third party candidate if one appears.
I'm not saying I approve. I'm just saying wake up and stop kidding yourselves. Warren has always been light years ahead of the DNC hacks like Biden, Shumer, etc. etc. and they will only support her to the extent it serves their own purposes. And the VP role definitely does not.
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I admired her for running as that is a tall order to be President. That all said, her policies were dangerous for the citizens of this country. He far left policies and initiatives would be very injurious to us all.
As much as I dreaded it, I knew this day was coming the day that I read about a poll conducted last summer. When asked who they planned to vote for in the Dem Primary, voters said they would vote for Biden. But when asked if they could wave a magic wand and make any candidate the President, those same voters overwhelmingly said Warren. That pretty much sums it all up.
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Elizabeth Warren was hands down the best presidential candidate this country has seen in a long time.
I look forward to seeing how she continues to fight for us.
Thank you, Warren, for being such an inspiration!
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She is taking the necessary time to discern the direction and consequences of her endorsement. Although I did not vote for her, I admire that she shows up well prepared, is thoughtful, and is tempermentally well suited for the office, unlike the current occupant. The Pinkie Promises were not in vain.
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It's unfortunate that Senator Warren is dropping out, but she is very intelligent and sensible. She should support VP Biden. With a Democratic administration (which won't happen if Sanders is the nominee), she would be an excellent addition. She could head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which she proposed and established.
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With Elizabeth Warren having ended her presidential run, let us hope she will endorse Bernie Sanders and that beyond her doing so Bernie will ask her to run with him on the same ticket and that she will accept. Further, at the Democratic Convention that they would jointly informed the assembled that they and their followers would if they were rejected as party’s nominees for office walk out and run on a third party ticket. It is time for Democratic Party members to decide what the party is as political organization, and do so in realization that the people of the nation cannot suffer a meaningless choice within what constitutes two Republican Parties. Others in the Democratic Party would be free to join them or stay behind. There is nothing sacred about the Democratic Party if it is not an instrument of government of the people, by the people and for the people.
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@Sam Osborne
"... and that beyond her doing so Bernie will ask her to run with him on the same ticket and that she will accept."
Don't you think that would mean more of the same? More my-way-or-the-highway? More division in the name of unity? In any case, I think more of Warren than that. She is not just another Sanders minion. Finally, how about we wait for the voting to end, before we resort to extortion?
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Are you serious? You would divide the Democratic party in the dark age of Trump? You’d let Trump have 4 more years in charge of the Republican party, the Congress, the Justice Department, the IRS and the army? Hope your third party fares well in Trumplandia. Bernie & his followers are doctrinaire, have a tendency to authoritarianism and have moldy 1970s New Left ideas that are unsuited for our 21st Century economy. But I’ll vote for him. Any of the Democratic candidate is better than the current occupier of the Oval Office.
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Thank you, Senator Warren, for all of your service and for your courage and dignity in standing up to Wall Street and Silicon Valley. You are a heroic mensch.
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Leadership is fighting until the American people can live in a level playing field and less brutal society.
Elizabeth Warren was always my first choice, just as Hillary Clinton was in the last election. They are clearly the most intelligent of all the presidential candidates we’ve had, and America obviously needs a leader who can compete on the world stage.
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@Sally McDonald
Make America smart again!
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@Sally McDonald
Hillary was so intelligent she did not campaign in Mich, Penn or Wisc. Nor did seh listen to those who recommended that she do so.
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Thank you for running such an inspiring race. I would have loved to have had the chance to vote for you, but our primaries are too late. Please continue your good work; you are needed in the Senate!
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I think Elizabeth Warren will do best in the Senate where fighting ideologues can prosper (and, in her case, persist). They can rarely get things done.
It's rather like the difference between litigators and business lawyers. Litigators fight over principle and worry about winning. Business attorneys negotiate pragmatically and worry about doing deals. Business attorneys are best when they are productive, and get things done. Litigators are best when they battle and win a victory.
Elizabeth Warren worries too much about having a plan rather than implementing it. The latter is much more important than the former. She always said, "I've got a plan for that". But as former boxer Mike Tyson said, "everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".
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I hope to have the opportunity to vote for another candidate with Warren's degree of intellect, reason, courage and compassion in my lifetime.
My two cents on Warren-to-Sanders... to me, it's not so obvious. Similar policy ends (sort of), but quite different means, and different in important ways. Most concerning: Sander’s rhetoric and platform is empowering a small -- but loud and influential-- group of ideologues who are driven primarily by deep-seated anger and resentment. (In ways I find alarmingly similar to how Trump harnessed energy from extremists on the far right.)
They’re raising fire to fight fire. Inciting, feeding on, spreading anger. Hatred even at times. Anarchistic world views, all-or-nothing mentalities, they strike me as sooner wanting to see the country collapse than Sanders lose the race.
They’re outliers, certainly non-representative of the vast majority of Sander’s supporters, but they speak loudly, and seem, from the Sanders’ events I’ve been to, and their collective online behavior, to be a powerful force. And that scares me. Because fanaticism, intolerance and contempt are viruses, regardless which party hosts them.
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Given that twice as many people watched the Super Bowl than voted in the 2016 primaries, perhaps we should vote for President during the half time show. It would be more democratic.
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No shame in making it to #3 in a presidential race. I prefer the notion of reform, not revolution, and she'd be in a good spot for that, but the ideologues don't accept any compromise as acceptable, which makes them terrible allies, and impractical as a support for a candidacy.
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It is more than laughable that all the Bernie supporters who called Warren a "snake" because she simply confronted him about saying that he didn't think a woman candidate could win, now expect her to just immediately endorse him for President. He allowed his supporters to savage her online, just as he did little to rein in the thuggish & criminal behavior of his supporters threatening the female head of the Nevada Culinary Workers Union simply because they declined to endorse any candidate. Nor was this behavior limited to his anonymous online supporters, as he falsely claimed. Politico obtained copies of the "talking points" script that was given to Sanders' volunteers and employees in Iowa and other early voting states that instructed them to say that Warren was supported only by affluent, highly educated people. After Sanders initially claimed the statements were made by "rogue employees," the campaign later admitted that they had handed out the talking points to volunteers who were canvassing and phone banking in Iowa and early states. Sounds pretty official to me. I hope Warren and her supporters don't forget this betrayal. I think like Obama, the Clintons, Kerry, the Carters etc., she should decline to endorse anyone right now.
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Are you really equating a talking point that Warren’s supporters are overwhelmingly college educated East Coast elitists (true) with what you believe to be “criminal” behavior?
I read with interest some of the comments after digesting the news of Warren dropping out. Regardless of my feelings about her, she added much to the debates, and discussions about what we deserve and need as a country. She also added to the idea that we need a President who is smart, and willing to share her opinions which are based on more than a cursory understanding of policy and practice. For that we should all be grateful.
As for those comments made about Medicaid for All - let's look only as far as the current worry about Covid-19 and think about how different a country we would be if everyone who was worried was able to afford seeing a doctor, and if those who were actually infected didn't have to worry about how to pay for the bills from the hospitals. My feeling is that it takes a special kind of privilege to believe that somehow MFA would limit people's choices more than they already are. People are literally making life and death decisions based solely on if they can afford to see a doctor and get the treatment. That going towards MFA would cost money isn't a question, That our current system is costing us both money and lives is also not a question. Ms. Warren and Mr. Sanders know and appreciate this.
In the end I will vote for whomever gets the nomination. But having someone who dreams of an America where everyone has access to health care they can afford would have made me smile.
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At this late juncture and in terms of the power politics of stopping the Biden juggernaut, Warren's decision may be too little, too late The time was late weekend before Supper Tuesday. Unfortunately, she made a poor political call and Sanders won't be able to repair it. Had she opted to suspend her candidacy a 5-6 days ago she would have helped blunt the Biden surge and shown that our side has political smarts and resilience and exited with her head high with the respect of everyone and in a good position to continue her fantastic leadership on progressive issues. What a missed opportunity on all counts.
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@Roddey Reid
I think the two white men should have bowed out. Warren is younger and far more intelligent and conscience minded of the working people than either Biden or Sanders. This country needs some new thinking. Warren is someone who would have helped spur this great nation onto better things than name calling and political obstructionism.
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What an opportunity we missed to fix our deeply broken system under the leadership of a brilliant thinker and compassionate human.
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@Susan Arterian
Yes, and my name wasn't even on the ballot. Sad, to the nth degree.
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@Susan Arteria To me she looks politically nearer to Sanders than to Biden.
Should she endorses Biden, this is a jumping into the winner' wagon...
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Susan Arterian, compassionate human? The way she mounted personal attacks on Mike Bloomberg was far from compassionate.
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Biden and Sanders need to select as their running mates before Warren makes an endorsement. The VP matters in any presidential race, but now that we have only two people in the race, ages 77 and 78, it matters even more. The American public also deserves to know who Biden and Sanders are going to pick. Our government is controlled by just two political parties, both have decided to go with elderly men. The presidency is for 4 years, starting in a year, so there is a much higher chance that the person who is VP may need to step into the office of the president for periods of time when health issues become a concern. Failure to have the candidates announce their running mates is failure on the part of the DNC to operate in a fair and transparent manner. We should know who the VP picks are before the next presidential debate on March 15th.
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@Julie Risser
Ah, the Ides of March. Poetic.
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Liz should stop trying to out-think people, just use common sense and realize the following:
1. She can't stay quiet. She has too much leverage to leave it sitting on the table, especially after seeing the impact Pete and Amy had on Super Tuesday.
2. She should not endorse Bernie. The Bernie Bros. don't like her and will never like her. And if Bernie loses after she endorses him (which is likely), her brand will be damaged forever.
3. Endorsing Joe, by contrast, has huge upside. She can be the person who preaches the "unification" of the party. There is no personal animosity between her and Joe like there is between her and Bernie. She probably also gets on the VP short list (again) and looks good at home (who won Mass again?) And, if the endorsement is well timed--say, after Joe crushes Bernie in Michigan next week--she can be the final nail in Bernie's campaign coffin, which I'm sure will go down nicely with whatever expensive bottle of red wine she enjoys in Cambridge on March 18.
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The expectations are so much higher for a woman than a man. I read quite a few comments stating where they lost Warren- when she Lied about her ancestry ; when she harangued Pete; when she went after Bloomberg etc etc. And yet this country elected trump.
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@Momof2boyz And the front runner, Mr Biden, lied about being arrested in South Africa. Apparently lying is only a problem for a candidate if she is a woman.
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@Momof2boyz Not exactly, Hillary Clinton had 2.8 million more votes than trump.
Warren's letter announcing her suspension of her campaign reduced me to tears. It's time to accept the deeply ideologically ingrained nature of American misogyny, so evident around Hillary's defeat (and I am no fan) and the absence of federally funded daycare in this country and the egregious intersectional discrepancies in maternal health. Apparently, we did not deserve the best-qualified candidate by far in the race. And for those pressuring her to endorse Biden: shame on you for failing to understand utterly what her campaign and her qualifications were about.
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Why does it seem that the VAST majority of the comments in here are that Liz should endorse Biden because he is the most electable. What ever happened to principles and endorsing the person who you most identify with? Liz is Bernie lite, and that is who she MUST endorse if she wants to remain true to herself.
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@Ben Anders
Warren is not "Bernie lite." She is everything he is and a whole lot more besides. Every one of his shortcomings is a strength for her. She is smart and practical and accomplished. She did the CFPB which has helped tens of millions of Americans. Warren is under no compunction to endorse St. Bernie now. Why is it that so many comments from Sanders people read like demand after demand?
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@Robert , if Liz were Bernie plus as you claim, then she would have immediately come out and endorsed him. Right?
Every minute that she waits means more votes for Biden.
Thank goodness she's too old to run again, and thank god for the same things with Sanders.
There ideas would have destroyed this country.
And it's more than a little disturbing that they had any supporters at all.
This country is the number one country in the world because of unfettered capitalism.
And anyone that wants to come in and mess that up should be shown the door.
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Unfettered capitalism is what trump is about, and he has blown common sense, respect, sensible legislation, integrity, and dignity right off the planet. That’s what unfettered capitalism is—trading human beings for wealth.
As I watched the announcement, I couldn't help thinking "That's a very nice $5m Cambridge Victorian townhouse."
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No. You’re off by about $4m and they bought it well before all that
@Amy
You're both wrong. Zillow and Trulia put the value at about $2.5 million
@Amy
Well, that valuation is from the WSJ - hardly a neutral source, I know, but they did extensively document the valuation, based on recent sales in the exclusive neighbourhood.
But wow, seems everything over their, including Coronavirus, is political, not to say tribal.
Worrying from over here.
She should endorse the candidate willing to make her his VP/running mate.
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@slogan ....are you proposing a....quid pro quo ?
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@slogan
You aren't suggesting a quid pro quo, are you?
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So, we are waiting for a former republican to endorse a candidate that isn't a democrat. Perfect. Tom Perez, the head of the DNC needs to be led out of the door with a one way ticket to somewhere other than where the DNC headquarters are. The caucus' were a joke. Iowa was a disaster. The field of 20 candidates was a joke. The debates were a joke. Ironically, it isn't all that funny.
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I felt about Elizabeth Warren the way some voters felt about Hillary Clinton (who I did vote for) - I just didn’t like her.
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Elizabeth Warren was my first choice throughout this election season. I blame the electorate for not being good enough for her.
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This is very disappointing. Elizabeth Warren is clearly the brightest of the contenders left in the field. She had great ideas, she is a professional woman who made it on her own. She is likable; rational; kind and committed. What's wrong with her? Is it that she is a she? I really hope not! As a 70 year old woman, who has voted in every election since 1968 and who is the mother of 3 adult women, I would like to think that we can elect a woman president. Sadly the recent past with Secretary Clinton and with Senator Warren are profoundly discouraging to me. Are we really still so backward and biased that being female is a disqualifying factor? For the sake of my daughters and future grand-daughters, I really hope not!
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@Natasha - If you're 70, you would have been 18 or 19 in 1968, depending on when your birthday is, so you wouldn't have been able to vote, since voting age at that time was 21. The voting age wasn't lowered to 18 until after Nixon was elected in 1968.
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Why such a quick effort to repudiate? Your comment doesn’t change the purpose of Natasha’s comment. She appears to be someone who was politically aware, at a young age, during a tumultuous time in our history. Many who weren’t able to vote in federal elections were fighting in VietNam, while Natasha and others probably were fighting for their right to vote back home.
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@Charles Foster Kane Just imagine what type of person would take the time to fact check someone's age and voting claim and then post about it. Are you saying she is lying? Seems so.
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Elizabeth Warren is a class act who can fill any cabinet appointment in the Biden administration.
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If she were truly a Progressive, she would immediately endorse Bernie. But, she is hedging her bets, which tells me she is a typical politician.
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@Sue, For the record, there are a whole lot of true progressive democrats who prefer Biden to Bernie, including me. The idea that anyone who doesn’t support Bernie is automatically “establishment” is simply inaccurate.
I’ll vote blue no matter who, but would prefer to vote for Biden.
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@Sue
Or, she may thinking strategically—in terms of which 78-year-old white man is best positioned to beat Trump. her endorsement, coupled with the likely voting of particular constituencies, might be very valuable.
Well, I hope she's happy with what she did to Bloomberg, the only candidate that I think had a chance to beat Trump. She apparently had a personal grudge against him because he supported an opponent of her's in a previous election. Bad form. She behaved in the debates like the obnoxious smarty pants in grade school who sits in the front and never puts her hand down. I literally had to turn off the sound whenever she was screeching.
Bloomberg knows how to run a large city government. He knows how to run a giant corporation with thousands of employees and provides computer services that essentially every person in Finance depends on.
Breaks my heart that she single-handedly knocked out the best candidate, then just up and quit.
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You mean Bloomberg was the only guy who could outspend trump? Doesn’t say much for ideas or ability.
She did everyone a huge favor honestly.
'What had begun as the most diverse Democratic presidential field in American history — including six women — is now essentially down to two white men'
It's funny that people think Bernie Sanders, who is Jewish, is not 'diverse'. It wasn't long ago that Jews were not even considered White. As a young person growing up in America Bernie would surely have experienced what it is like to be outside the mainstream.
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Hopefully she'll wait on an endorsement, and be the "caboose" for whichever train is heading for the White House! Whether Biden, or Sanders, the winner will need the extra push to take the contest!
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I am deeply heart-broken. Elizabeth Warren was hands down not only the best candidate in the race, but also the one who actually bring the country together, AND beat Trump. What is wrong with America? What is it going to take to get the cancer of sexism out of this nation? And yes, it was because of sexism. From the start, including this paper, kept parroting out questions about "Is a woman candidate electable? Is Warren likeable?" And then came the media completely ignoring her actual, cogent policies and coverage of her campaign and instead kept obsessing over the two, old, white men (nay, three, if you count Trump). It is a depressing day for our nation.
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Does Lizzie get her multi-million advance for her book while still a sitting senator or does that happen when she gives up or loses her seat? Like most of us, Warren is a basket of contradictions.
She likes the limelight though.
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In 2015 and 2016, many people were begging Elizabeth Warren to run against Trump.
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She was the logical successor to Obama, bright, principled and creative.Thank you Elizabeth, we will never forget your fight.
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The sad reality is that Elizabeth Warren's strengths, the very reasons her base supported her, were also the reasons most Americans wouldn't vote for her.
Americans with graduate degrees saw Warren as an apex collegiate expert. A hard working professor who has clawed her way to the top of her field. But average Americans still have great distrust of experts especially in abstract fields like law.
I'm now leaning towards Sanders since he has plans to increase college attendence and in theory could help plant the seeds for better successes by future Elizabeth Warren candidates.
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As a college educated white male living in rural Utah, of all places, I was proud to cast my primary vote for Elizabeth Warren this past Tuesday. I admire her intelligence and policies, and I regret her slow fade during the brutalizing primary campaign. I hope there is a leadership role for her in the next Democratic administration.
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Early, I am a college-educated white male who was born and raised in rural Utah, of all places, but have lived my adult life elsewhere. I think Elizabeth Warren will do best in the Senate where fighting ideologues can prosper (and, in her case, persist). They can rarely get things done.
It's rather like the difference between litigators and business lawyers. Litigators fight over principle and worry about winning. Business attorneys negotiate pragmatically and worry about doing deals. Business attorneys are best when they are productive, and get things done. Litigators are best when they battle and win a victory.
Elizabeth Warren worries too much about having a plan rather than implementing it. The latter is much more important than the former. She always said, "I've got a plan for that". But as former boxer Mike Tyson said, "everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".
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Always impressed with her, but recently she lost appeal when she got snarky: "wine caves", "release the NDA's". When today she said I hope I've "changed some perceptions on what a president should look like," speaking for myself, I was always way ahead of her: I never judged her on gender. Never entered my mind. Too much real substance there for that issue to get in the way. I wish she and other women could accept that notion.
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@Mitch So because you personally don't have a problem with the idea of a female president you're irritated Warren made that statement, and you assume she can't accept the notion that some people out in society have no trouble with the idea of a female president?
Warren's comment addresses the very real fact that many people do continue have trouble imagining a female president, and it will take repeated exposure to viable female candidates to normalize that concept.
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Pretty easy to say things like I have no problem with a female or black or socialist or gay president. Can’t prove differently until we actually SEE how you vote.
I am not fond of progressivism. There have only been (3) progressive presidents in history, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Taft. There is apparently good reason for that fact.
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@NOTATE REDMOND
Um... I'm not sure under what circumstances anyone could consider Wilson a progressive. On the other hand, you might add Teddy's nephew, FDR, to the list.... and his contributions took the US out of the Depression and gave you your Social Security to boot. Just sayin'.
@Timothy
As most post enumerates, there have only been (3) recognized Progressive presidents. FDR was not one of them. Clear?
I suggest that Elizabeth Warren support Joe Biden and, if he wins the nomination, that he pick her as his running mate. Having her on the ticket should bring along Sanders-leaning voters who might otherwise abstain from voting.
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If that happens, it will be interesting to see how she handles Bloomberg’s terrific commitment of his resources to causes and candidates, since she appears to personally abhor him, to her discredit.
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On Super Tuesday, as I sat with my ballot, dithering over my final choice, a question popped into my head: with the threat of coronavirus increasing by the hour, who among the remaining candidates would I prefer to see in charge? The answer came to me immediately: Warren.
I'm very sad to see her drop out of the race. Crushed, actually. I'm not irrevocably anti-Sanders or anti-Biden, and when November comes, I will cast my vote for the Democratic nominee, but it won't be with nearly the same enthusiasm had Warren been leading the ticket.
I console myself with the knowledge that she will still be serving in Congress for another few years. It takes away a tiny bit of the sting.
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Although I don't agree with Warren's plans, she certainly did put out a lot of effort into them. But you have to be likeable, too. Insulting your customers, or voters in this case, is not the best, winning strategy in any endeavor.
Her snarky reply to the man who saved for his child's college cost lost me -- and many others. Then there were the fibs and sidestepping from her "Indian" background to the way she left a teaching position to the question of whether one of her children was in a public or private school.
And then there was the unfounded attack on Mr. Sanders about a statement on whether a woman could be president. It all added up to a persona that outside of her numerous adoring media allies, few found acceptable.
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“And then...” and then there was yet another man making petty criticisms. Like any of you could humble Bloomberg the way she did
What went wrong for Elizabeth Warren and her chance to become the first female President?
Bernie Sanders.
Same thing that went wrong in 2016, when many progressives wanted Warren to run but she demurred out of respect for another woman, one who had been waiting since 2008 to run again.
Bernie had no such compunctions about running in 2016 and he is of course running again in 2020.
For those waiting for Elizabeth Warren to endorse Bernie Sanders, ask yourself how her campaign would have gone had he not run again.
Ask yourself how it is that we find ourselves in 2020, with three possibilities for the next president and all of them elderly white men.
This is not the revolution many progressives are looking for.
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Senator Warren was most certainly held to a different standards than the men. Had a man run a similar campaign he would have been lauded as a stable genius. My only complaint was that she focused more on tearing down her fellow Democrats instead of Trump. I'm sure this will not be the last time we hear from Senator Warren.
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Elizabeth Warren presented an inspiring platform that was never going to work in practice. The country cannot take a big risk on a transformational candidate with a very progressive agenda right now. It has nothing to do with her being a woman. Bernie needs to drop out next. We all need to get behind Biden and defeat Trump. Biden is the right candidate for right now.
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This never-Trump, never-Biden voter is mourning Warren's departure. There is simply no meaningful choice left for us in this all-important election.
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Yes there is a choice. The one that is less damaging to your country and its people. If you cannot see that, Trump's march back to the White House is pretty much guaranteed.
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@Catlin
I don't think that's true. I agree that Warren would have been the best president of the lot. All the same, Biden and Trump are worlds apart.
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@Catlin Please consider the make-up of the Supreme Court. Do you want more justices in the mold of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch? If not, please vote for the Biden. Clean air, clean water, the protection of countless animals. If these are important to you, the choice is clear.
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Interesting you mention Marie Newman- Bernie Sanders endorsed her in June. Not mentioned in the article though.
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Elizabeth Warren, like Hillary Clinton before her, was far and away the most intelligent, capable, caring, honest, and qualified person running for the nomination. However, at this point, I do hope she endorses Biden. I am a progressive, but Sanders is not someone I would ever vote for in this race. He is full of bluster and shouts out his talking points, but I haven't seen the detailed plans. Warren had those.
I wish Elizabeth Warren the best and will miss her voice, which was often ignored by the media, on the campaign trail. I hope she will stay in the Senate fighting for all of us! Maybe if we take back the Senate, the other senators will see the way clear to make her the first female majority leader. If not, she would be a terrific minority leader.
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I am not surprised Warren was not successful, not because she is a woman, BUT because being a policy wonk and a smart person is NOT enough to win as its not just electability but also relatability. Voters are not interested in nor understand all the policy minutae but the ability of a nominee to articulate to the everyday man and woman voter what they stand for and what priorities are important to them and in plain English. She was too professorial...and not human enough to connect with voters in all the diversity and young and old
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Sorry to see her pull out of the race. But it was an obvious struggle from the beginning.
I so admire her passion and zeal but her image needed an uplift that went begging.
So what’s her next move? I believe she and Sanders should kiss and make up with Bernie getting her endorsement in return for her being his running mate. The pair has an energy and devotion that no other candidate can even begin to challenge.
Idealistically she is extremely philosophically opposed to Biden who is a simpleton,an empty suit politician that is one degree away from complete dementia.
Fire in the belly is a quality not seen in the White House for what seems my lifetime. One can only hope and pray for a dedicated leader that has a clear and honest vision for this country’s future.
Personally, I hope she doesn't endorse anyone. Her idea that people should vote in ways which make them proud, is the best one of all.
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Guess Warren had a plan for everything - except how to win primaries.
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Yeah; I guess she hadn’t factored in resilience to female candidates.
Resistance. Resilience, jeez.
We will never have a more perfect woman candidate than Warren. Any woman more conforming to everyone's liking would never have made it this far to begin with. The only easy to break this logjam is for an educated sensible populace to choose competence over charisma. Stop waiting to feel enamored and uplifted. Start thinking in colder terms about delivering, executing policies, ability to uphold ethics, keep unruly lawmakers at bay.
When I think in those terms, Warren rises head and shoulders above the rest.
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What an elegant and principled candidacy this has been. Looked upon as a rôle model instead of a track record, it stood out more and more for being chock full of honor and character. I hope she accepts no gratituity other than popular election as her own boss in her own office; and if anyone thinks the Senate doesn't need more like her, he doesn't care about our government.
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Any of the (male) options on any side do not speak to me. I’m not interested in having any of the males pick a female running mate when many of the female candidates who dropped out one by one were far more prepared for the presidency and capable in defeating Trump. The disappointment lies both with the voters and the media reporting that even in the NYT in 2019/20 came from a place of gender stereotypes. At this point no one would get my vote.
And now Warren has to have “space“ to think about whether she is placing herself outside the Democratic Party by appearing with Bernie and perhaps Ocasio-Cortez, as the establishment closes ranks.
Isn’t that the gist of it?
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Democrats are heading for electoral disaster again, just like 2016 for two reasons; they are going to rig the primaries as much as they can via delegates behind the scenes to snuff out Sander's, making enemies his army of young supporters(the future of the party) and they are stuck on policies unpopular outside Wall St and the big coastal global cities. They still do not understand how a political amateur spending 5% of what Mrs Clinton had could beat them which is why they conducted a doomed impeachment attempt 'to feel better'.
Elections are no longer won in the middle ground. By killing Sanders run in backrooms we saw 12% of his voters vote for Trump and the others stayed home--that was enough to see Trump win in the swing states
They have not changed any policy positions. Identity politics is central to their thoughts even as it has proved to be a loser all over the western world since 2016, especially in most of the swing states. Biden voted for the Iraq War and supported the trade deals that coldly moved jobs overseas. They still want open borders just as a deadly virus threatens the world and supply lines lead to the epicentre of the disease, proving it is unwise to move 95% of the production of consumer drugs to an unreliable, totalitarian state that is in a Cold War with the free world. Biden is going to loose big for cloud over his suspicious dealings with the brutal CCP for his son's business.
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Actions speak louder than words. Does Liz fight for progressive policies the American people desperately need and deserve, that I have experienced in Japan and France, or was that all just for show? Character counts. Lying matters. An endorsement of Biden, who actively helped bring America to its knees, representing more like Republican policies, and that she’s even considering it, proves it was all just a show. Prove me wrong, Liz, I beg you.
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@Layla
Do you want Trump out of office? I'm guessing you do. Throw the purity issues out—Warren's endorsement can go a long way (strategically) toward bringing progressives to vote for Biden (if only via the "please please please do it to get Trump out, like I would have" line). Put aside whatever pain you feel, bite the bullet, and vote for whoever Trump's opponent turns out to be. If you don't, you might not get a chance to vote EVER AGAIN. Remember Neuremberg in 1933.
Lean out, people. Warren should’ve been our candidate and president (Bernie is next best). I’ll vote a write-in for one of them in the general election. But I won’t let the men of DNC (Tom Perez!) and Democratic Party donors (corporate billionaires and Wall Street) steal my vote or my voice by forcing Joe Biden on me.
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@Misplaced Modifier
The goal of getting Trump out of office—PERIOD—should be forcing your hand anyway. Get over yourSELF and vote for the COUNTRY. if you don't, whatever pain you feel now is likely to get far worse.
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Let's hope the "highly educated" are educated enough to know the main focus shoukd be on beating Trump, not talking about a revolution that is not going to happen . Only Biden has a chance.
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5 times I have been able to vote for a woman for President, if you count primaries too. Most likely I will not live long enough to see a woman became President, but came so close with Hillary. Please younger women, don't give up on our gender. The country needs our policies, experience, and wisdom. Please carry forward the cause when those of us who have fought for so long are no longer with you.
Next steps for me, Biden, a human the opposite of trump. Thanks for the Black communities of the South for voicing what truly matters at this time. Get trump out of the White House so we may survive.
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Warren, with a ton of money and the wind at her back most of the primary season, could not even carry her own state. That speaks volumes about her vulnerability in MA. She should now make sure her seat stays in the Democratic colum and not provide an opening for Gov. Baker to appoint a Republican.
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@Bruce
Here is what I wrote as a comment to someone who said something similar:
The Massachusetts primary actually illustrates why the primary system is broken.
If it had been the first primary Warren would have won that primary handily.
But because it came after other primaries, everyone made their decision based on what they perceived other voters wanted. Each primary or caucus sets up the next one.
Everyone games the system, rather than vote for the person they think would actually make the best general election candidate.
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I voted for Warren but one has to agree that if you cannot win in your home State it is time to pack it in.
So, effectively, we are down to Bernie and Biden. A crazy old ideologue and a old exemplar of mediocrity.
I am not happy with the choice but we have to get rid of Trump. My vote will likely go to Biden although it will depend somewhat on his picking a younger and highly credible VP.
I like Bernie and I do think it is time for the pendulum to swing away from pandering to the uber wealthy and back to favoring the middle and lower classes. But Bernie's proposals seem too wild and ill considered.
And at some fundamental level, I don't think the best response to Trump is a wild swing to the left.
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@Engineer
See my comment to Bruce (just above your comment.)
What's infuriating is that Elizabeth Warren was held to a higher standard than all the other candidates when it came to her Medicare for all plan.
I don't recall Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden (or any other males running for that matter) being asked to detail their policies as much as Warren was.
Also, the question of "electability" seems like a code word put forward to insinuate that a female candidate, no matter how brilliant, capable or qualified, just can't win. Voters hear this repeatedly and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The smartest, sharpest and potentially most effective candidate was held to a different standard just because of her sex. What a tragedy.
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Good Lord. What do words like “centrist” or “working class” even mean anymore. Most democrats and even some Republicans want some or all of the things Warren and Sanders have proposed. But the same people feel these things can’t win and so they don’t vote for them and thus ensure they won’t win. Just like you can’t outsmart the stock market it’s a fools game to vote using strategy and not conviction.
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@Sam Francisco I agree. A lot of commenters say they like her or Sander's policies but then don't vote for either of them, citing Sander's "style" of campaigning or their impression of his suppoters ( I am one). They don't seem to understand that if you keep voting for people whose policies you don't agree with or don't champion, you'll keep getting the same things you don't need or want.
In a way, I'm not surprised. Plenty of self-help literature out there talks about people getting in their own way whether it's doubting themselves before they even set their foot outside the door or sticking with an unsupportive partner because it's familiar.
I think the best we can do is try. If people end up homeless, bankrupt because of medical bills or student loans or otherwise needing help in the future but continue to vote for moderates, they only have themselves to blame.
There is one clear path to voting out Trump. And no excuses. In November vote for the Democratic candidate.
It's Never Trump. Not Never Trump but ...
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She ruined her campaign when she went far left to seek the energy of the progressive left. Previously, her proposals had been well-grounded in the reality of what could get done and were likely to work, but then she got into a bidding war with Sanders on free stuff and struggled to find a way to pay. And a 2% wealth tax is disingenuous populism as it hasn't worked anywhere and causes capital flight. Sexism didn't doom her, bad management skills did. She tried to straddle lanes in a binary contest and she was wrong to think it would work out well. Yes, very good at attacking Bloomberg, but it is a political fact that attacking others in a debate can drive voters away from them, but it makes the attacker unlikable and doesn't result in attracting any voters. Thus, her taking down of Bloomberg was also effectively the end of her electoral chances. Holding back her endorsement seems strange. She has nothing in common with Biden. For her to endorse him would literally be apostasy and going against everything she has ever stood for or claimed to believe in and would show that she is just another phony politician.
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Nothing in common with Biden? They both proudly claim the label of DEMOCRAT.
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I want to be clear. We wouldn't be having this debate if Warren had dropped out of the race before Super Tuesday. You can blame Buttigieg or Bloomberg for the imbalance. However, the fact remains. Warren had no realistic chance once Buttigieg and Klobuchar exited the race. So what was she doing there?
The answer to that question is driving a gigantic wedge in the Democratic coalition right now.
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@Andy Had she dropped Before and ndorsed Sanders she could be now his running mate and Sanders the leading force, not Biden
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Perhaps I overlooked it, but did not see any encomiums of House Whip James Clyburn, "eminence grise " of Biden's success in harvesting votes of African Americans, which accounted for Biden's success by and large. Clyburn has gravitas, speaks sparingly, chooses his words well, and when he speaks, compels the attention of his listeners.Clyburn is Biden's most astute strategist, a real asset to his his campaign.
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I first noticed EW as the author of the CPB, and had been favorably disposed toward her since. I was surprised that she walked into the "Pocahontas" trap, playing right into Trump's juvenile penchant for mockery. But I thought she demonstrated courage by declaring herself a 2020 candidate anyway.
She is an intellectual in a country that largely ignores and dismisses cerebral achievement, heaping far more adulation on a Kobe Bryant or a Serena Williams than a Noam Chomsky or a Howard Zinn would ever see. I remained favorably disposed toward EW's candidacy because she seemed to embody intelligence, compassion and optimism, though I doubted she could win a national election. I decided to wait and see how things played out.
All that evaporated in the moment many seem to consider to have been her triumph: the take-down of Bloomberg with an accusation so ugly, so shocking that at first I did not know what she meant. She was talking about a conversation with her boss when the standards of the time had put her pregnancy when she was young into conflict with her career aspirations.
"At least he didn't say... KILL IT!" In that instant, I saw a cold-blooded assassin plunge a dagger deep into Bloomberg's heart, preceded by a momentary pause to amplify the impact. Intelligence, compassion or optimism were nowhere to be seen.
I am willing to believe that Bloomberg had a mouth on him at one time, and that karmic justice may have been appropriate, but I no longer felt any esteem for EW.
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I will proudly wear my Warren T-shirt until it falls apart.
Now, Biden should reach out to her and make her his VP choice.
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Can’t build a campaign on a foundation of lies, half truths and hyperbole. Zero charisma. Truly awful candidate.
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Yes! And the guy in the office is not based on lies and deceits? She didn’t do anything!
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I would love to see her endorse Sanders, and convince him to come a bit more towards center on some issues. Or at least get him to admit that he has an agenda, or a "movement", as he likes to say, but that he realizes he is not going to achieve it immediately.
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I love and admire this brilliant and compassionate woman, the sharpest and most experienced all 'round candidate in 2020, and I will always cherish her campaign, which succumbed to the ubiquitous All-American power of misogyny among liberals and conservatives of all races, classes, and genders. I now hope Warren will toss her considerable clout to Joe Biden, whose values, pragmatism, temperament and empathy she shares. I know for a fact than many of her strongest supporters have, within the last few days, thrown our support to Joe for this very reason.
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Warren has to endorse; Sanders or Biden, she can't sit this out. For the sake of party unity, for the sake of issue #1- getting rid of Trump, she has to move, and she has to do it quickly.
Personally, I hope she endorses Biden. Endorsing Sanders will be a waste; he'll lose anyway. But don't go cheap. Get a rejuvenated consumer credit protection agency, and maybe a cabinet post, Treasury?, as well. Or stay in the Senate and partner with Senator Sanders to introduce legislation strengthening ACA, eliminating student debt, redistributing of wealth, infrastructure investment, and so on.
But whatever you do, Ms. Warren, do it soon.
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@Ralph Averill
Of all the candidates running, my husband and I found Warren the most abrasive.
She refused to abide by debate rules instead yelling at others ( unable to speak in a mild tone), interrupting, speaking out of turn, unwilling to shut up when moderators politely asked her to give the others a turn to speak, waving her hands almost as much as Bernie, and being just downright rude.
The way she treated the most polite, reasoned person on the stage, Mike Bloomberg, is dispicable. She said he said things he never said. When he denied it, she just kept on yelling.
If she was a guest in my home I would call the police to eject her.
One of the most unpleasant people in a long time.
The fact that she came in third in her state of Mass and even lower than that in OK, where she was born, speaks volumes.
I will be contributing to her defeat in MA when she runs again in 2024. She needs to be sent packing ASAP.
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@Ralph Averill Bernie said a woman can't be President, and his supporters already call her a snake for just being in the race. That sounds like a very hostile environment, quite familiar to many of her women supporters. Importantly, there's no chance Bernie can ensure a blue House and Senate, and more chaos in the Dem party is exactly what Putin and Trump wants. One of her core platforms is that she can work within the party to bring her progressive ideas to light. I can only imagine what she can do if we have both the House and Senate !! Liz, don't wait ... join Joe's Team of Rivals and be the unity candidate that you said you would be!
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Same here ! Otherwise it’s a choice between the self righteous left and the self centered right. And no one representing decency and compromise
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Why is it we reject the people who have vision, knowledge, bold ideas (a plans for them!) and the courage of their convictions? Have we become so sclerotic in our thinking & attitudes that we can’t even imagine living in a compassionate society? I hope not. And I hope good people like Elizabeth Warren will continue to help America find those better angels of our nature.
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Maybe because only women have those qualities?
This is a sad, sad day. That a woman as brilliant and passionate about fairness could not succeed in her candidacy is painful.
I supported Senator Warren, and gave her my vote. I didn't agree with all the points on her platform, but I believe she is reasonable enough to know when comprises must be made to achieve a greater good.
I fervently hope she will not endorse Bernie Sanders, who is as polarizing a figure as the present occupant of the White House. He has proved time and time again that his dogmatic egoism makes him an unfit option – it's just noise coming from the other side of the spectrum.
An endorsement for VP Biden would be a good thing, and she could bring a lot to his campaign in terms of broadening the appeal of his platform. However, I think he needs a running mate who is a woman of color and is also a great presenter. Rep. Val Demings of Florida has already proved her qualifications during the impeachment hearings, and would reduce Mike Pence to shreds in any debate.
With Massachusetts having a Republican governor, if Senator Warren were to join the ticket or accept a cabinet post, we would lose an important Democratic voice in the Senate. Of course, if the Dems retake the Senate by a good majority in the fall, that would become irrelevant, and a President Biden would be wise to add our senator to his cabinet. I hope that will turn out to be the case.
Meanwhile, I am grateful to be a member of Senator Warren's constituency and wish her well.
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Warren's endorsement will reveal her true nature. I hope that she remains true to the values she espoused during her campaign: that every American should have access to affordable healthcare (Medicare for ALL) and a passion to fight for working class and middle class families who have been repeatedly abandoned by the Democratic party over the last 40 years. If Warren backs Sanders, then we will know she was sincere in her messaging. If she backs Biden, she will reveal herself as nothing more than a political opportunist who had no real stake in improving the lives of the many suffering and fearful Americans whose stories she recalled during her campaign.
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@Lisa
I don't think you have painted an accurate picture of the situation. One of the things many of us liked about Warren was her smart, practical side. If, for instance, she believes, as I do, that Sanders as the nominee could not take back the Senate and might very well lose the House, then she should not back him now.
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@Lisa
Ah. Not a one of them has an ego. And she must submit herself to the tests of the department of thought and ideology police.
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Warren needs to endorse Sanders. Her campaign was mounted against the big money interests in our society, Fossil Fuel Industry, Wall Street,insurance companies, all those forced hurting the american citizen. How could she not endorse Sanders?
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@MC
She did the CFPB with Obama and Pelosi. How many billions saved was that for how many Americans? We like Warren because she not only idealistic but also smart and pragmatic. She doesn't need to endorse Sanders. She doesn't even need to endorse anybody until after the convention.
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She didn’t show courage and leadership to endorse the progressive policies she claims to support last election either? Why not?
@Robert
$11,000,000,000 for 30,000,000 Americans.
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I'm voting for her anyway, because I'm just not excited about my other two choices. Obviously I'll vote blue, but for now I'm still voting Liz, because she epitomizes what I want in a leader: smart, thoughtful, energetic, data-driven, empathetic, real.
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I don't think that anybody looking at the possible choices of Biden or Sanders is excited about said choices. But it's not about being excited. It is about the welfare of your country and wellbeing of it's people. It's about imagining what another full term with an untethered and unhinged Trump at the helm, will look and be like.
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Just to step away from the frenzy for a moment, I just want to say thank you to all the candidates for getting through the Herculean task of campaigning for president.
Sometimes I shift from partisanship and focus on the beating they all take: the slings and arrows always coming their way from the press and other media, as well as the electorate, the constant travel and bad food, their sincere effort to get across their platforms in wild debates, the constant stress, etc., and I actually tear up with gratitude. I could never do what they are doing. Most of us could not.
So thank you all, and thank you Senator Warren for your immense effort, your intelligence, your plans and opening your large heart in our behalf.
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You can also add having to challenge an unscrupulous man like trump, who aimed every poisonous arrow he could most of their way, especially Warren. She’s incredibly powerful. A real fighter.
I supported Warren and think she still has a lot more to offer. But she is in a difficult position of deciding which candidate to endorse. On the one hand, she and Sanders share nearly the exact same ideology and politics (but she’s got more heart and guts).
On the other hand she is “the unity candidate” and Sanders is polarizing. Her dilemma is that he is not a Democrat, he is an Independent and has no ambition of unifying, growing or broadening the Democratic Party. Her credentials as a party unifier are sullied if she were to endorse him.
By not endorsing either Biden or Sanders, she could work toward some kind of party unity up until the convention, appealing to the Sanders supporters who put his candidacy ahead of Dumping Trump.
By her staying neutral and working for unity she’d be available to run as Biden’s VP candidate if he wins the nomination.
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Early on, I was very impressed with Warren and was delighted when she announced she was running for the Dem nomination for President. As time went on, however, I started feeling uncomfortable with her candidacy. She sounded less like the reasoned brilliant professor she appeared to be initially and more like a cheer leader on steroids at a high stakes football game. The last straw for me was her attack on Bloomberg in the Nevada debate and after that. I thought it was totally unwarranted. I believe that lost her many supporters.
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@mary benson Agree- it didn't become her. And didn't do her any more good than Kamala Harris' attack on Biden as a means of getting attention did for her. Warren started out from a good place, an altruistic place-but she didn't "persist".
Elizabeth Warren has my undying respect and gratitude for trying to do the impossible in our male dominated society. Unfortunately even women here aren’t willing to support a woman no matter how qualified. For now I believe she needs to remain in the senate and endorse Biden. Not because she wouldn’t be wonderful as VP or in any cabinet position but because we need her as a Democratic senator now more than ever. As for endorsing Biden, it is time for Democrats to stop the in fighting and come together. Joe Biden is the man who can bring us together. I agree with Bernie on almost everything but he is not a uniter. The animosity has to stop now. Bernie failed to deliver the young voters this time so there is no reason to expect them to show up later. Let’s get behind Joe.
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Warren's prime concern has been equal protection under the law, including criminal prosecution of corporate executives who commit fraud with confidence, knowing that fines paid by their company's will keep them out of prison. She has spent her entire legislative career working toward this goal. Who can argue with it? Biden should immediately name her as his choice for attorney general.
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She’s a great Senator and continue doing great work in the Senate, particularly if it turns blue. If she could be replaced by an excellent Democrat in the Senate, then it would plenty of opportunities for her and either a Biden or Sanders administration. For example, she could pick up where she left off with the consumer protection bureau. I personally think that Biden is the best choice because change must be incremental and the public is not going to be crazy their insurance taken away from them, particularly if they gave a pay increase just to get good insurance. also, Bernie’s plans will result in huge middle-class tax increases no matter what he says. I hope he doesn’t trash Biden in the debate but I’m pretty sure he will, just like I did to Hillary.
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Now Warren has some interesting choices to make.
Endorse Biden for a quid pro quo--perhaps being his Treasury Secretary?
Or endorse Bernie if she plans to run as a left-wing progressive in 2024?
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I mourn. For Elizabeth Warren. For all her supporters, like me. But most of all for our country that could have had a bright, intelligent, competent, highly prepared president but rejected her, largely out of fear. Yes, fear. Fear of change. Fear of how others might vote. So much for "the home of the brave."
And also out of the malignantly intertwined cancers of anti-intellectualism and anti-feminism. At 79 yrs., I'd hoped that anti-intellectualism (against women, especially) was on its way out. I grew up in the late 50's in the South, where smarts were certainly no advantage to a girl. I never really felt at home anywhere till grad school (except for a couple of stints in summer school, where no one knew or cared about my GPA, and in another group I belonged to--sad, isn't it?--as my boyfriend's girlfriend). But, alas, I see that here in 2020 smarts are still no advantage to a woman.
So I mourn.
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This is too important to be about gender. Other candidates immediately threw their weight behind the candidate who represents the policies they are fighting for. Was Liz lying all along, or will she continue to fight, as all the other candidates have, until the American people can live in a less brutal society? Her move. Hundreds of millions of lives depend on this. Oligarchy or representative democracy? Actions speak louder than words. What will it be, Liz?
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What Warren failed to grasp about the 2020 election and campaign is that it wasn't ever going to be about policy details. Bernie fails to grasp this, too, but to a lesser extent.
The campaign was always about uniting against Trump, bridging the divide in America, and bringing back a steady, centrist vision for America. Americans want to be reassured about their place in the world. They don't want to hate their neighbors because of what bumper sticker they have on their car. They want a return to decency.
As soon as you get lost in the weeds about the financing details for a far-left policy, you've lost the plot.
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I've given to Senator Warren in previous campaigns but this one had too many shifting strategies. First she was the one with the plans. Then she was the one with Bernie's plan. Then she made being a pioneering woman key. Then she seemed simply bent on destroying Mike Bloomberg.
She'd be a fine president but her campaign left me puzzled. Meanwhile Bernie and Joe have shifted little - for better or for worse. And the only goal at this point is to remove Trump with whomever primary voters think can do that.
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This is a sad day. However, she has made enormous progress already and together we will move forward from here. We will build on what she has already done to make government work for all Americans.
"You don't get what you don't fight for." -EW
Thank you...
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The fight’s not over. The other candidates immediately threw their weight behind the one who represented their policies. Why isn’t Liz? Eh?
"But Ms. Allison acknowledged that pitch did not find favor in the broader minority electorate, even as it won plaudits from academics and activists.
“Black voters really were looking for a return to normalcy,” she said."
Black voters commitment to the so-called "return to normalcy" better wake up. I'm sure that what's 'normal' to them is not what's normal to the political establishment that has allowed--and still embraces-- a system that relies upon private prisons, higher coinsurance payments for health coverage, and college tuition debt in the six-figure range.
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Many "Democrats" seem mesmerized by their fears that the majority of other voters are really Republicans at heart, and want more of the same as we've had since Reagan, more and more of the Reagan shift.
They dare not challenge that, because at heart they don't believe in the challenge. They are convinced most other Americans are just reactionary Republicans, and will only give power to the right.
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This has been a masterclass in electoral politics. The most feared candidate in the race by the power brokers was Elizabeth Warren because she was electable. Clearly qualified and not able to be manipulated. Her main platform, after all, was dealing to corruption.
Once she gathered momentum in the latter part of 2019 she had to be stopped. Enter the lists a well-funded Black Prince in the form of a youthful, attractive, "liberal", but massively under-qualified, Mayor Pete. He quickly proved the strategy and his effectiveness by cutting away her expanded base. By December she was a spent force.
As for the aged Senator from Vermont, his vanity did not allow him to step-aside at the beginning of the campaign and endorse the best qualified progressive in Elizabeth Warren. AOC et al had their own motives.
Despite any number of column inches that are written over the next short while, the demise of the Senator from Vermont is now assured as it has always been.
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Good riddance! She was going to bankrupt this nation with her "free everything" approach. The only way to fund all of her initiatives would have been to raise taxes significantly on the middle and upper middle class. Taxing the rich would not have worked because they would just use their army of accountants and lawyers to shield their wealth.
Now we just need to get Sanders out so that we have a viable candidate for the general election, someone I can actually support.
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Once the Coronavirus strikes millions and it will, M4A will be a moot point.
Congrats to Senator Warren for a fight well fought and her winning stamina and smarts.
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She got away from her "I've got a plan for that" message that seemed to resonate and instead started doing "Selfies with Liz" stuff in the fall. Disjointed messaging sunk her and her campaign managers need to explain themselves.
I don't think the Warren campaign failed because voters are sexist. She hurt her own campaign with her change to delay Medicare for All, on attacking her opponents, refusing to shake Bernie Sanders' hand after a debate, and then changing her position on taking PAC donations. I think the Democrats need better, more inspiring candidates in 2024, both female and male.
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This is preposterously opinionated and just plain wrong:
“Ms. Warren’s campaign did not reflect the urgency of a candidacy trying to make history, not only as the first female president, but also through a program of systemic upheaval...”
If anything, Warren’s entire campaign was about trying to do too much, too urgently, and it’s the core reason she is gone.
Warren was the natural and ideal opponent to Trump in every way, and could have gone much farther, even for the overall win, if she had realized that the point of her campaign was to be what America needs right now...instead of telling America what it needs to change. Biden understood this, and though he’s more flawed in many ways, he’s the one still standing.
Liz Warren has the best ideas to move the country forward. Whoever wins the nomination and the presidency will be hard pressed to work with her in bringing her ideas into fruition.
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If Warren does not immediately, and I mean immediately, endorse and campaign for Bernie Sanders, her legacy is tarnished beyond repair. It will solidify her as a cravenly opportunistic phony progressive. I can only imagine she would face a primary election in Massachusetts and would be likely to lose that as well... An endorsement of Biden would be truly devastating to her political future unless in a future Biden administration. The real question is... what does Bernie have to gain by offering her the VP seat at this time? Or at all. I'm split on this... But her network is deep and her admiration among educated white women is undeniable. Bernie needs states and delegates. He needs to crunch the numbers and maybe make her an offer she can't refuse.
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The question now is whether or not the Bernie supporters will vote with their hearts instead of their heads and make Bernie the new Jill Stein.
The Green Party has thrown the environment under the bus twice in order to live out their sanctimonious agenda. Will the Democrats do the same?
@Biji Basi Why is this always asked of Bernie supporters, chastising them in advance for not voting for a moderate nominee, while the moderate voters whom people fear would not vote for a progressive nominee are given a moral pass?
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@Beulah
Because there are more of us, and we have a better chance of beating Trump. If that doesn't happen, nothing good happens.
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In 2016 Warren did not endorse a canidate until AFTER the Masssachusetts presidential primary and endorsed the winner (Hillary.) Talk about a lack of leadership. She'll probably once again take the politically expedient route and wait and endorse the winner. She is so not presidential material.
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I always thought the problem with a politician like Warren, like Gore, like Hillary Clinton, is that they never quite figured out how to lie effectively. And it shows as insincerity-so they lose. They look insincere even when what they are conveying is for the most part (but not completely, hey, this IS politics), the truth. Warren was almost holding her nose when she had to equivocate back and forth on health care and how to implement a crowd-pleasing plan. She probably is too good to be in this sordid business. With any luck, Biden will win and enlist her services. She is brilliant and the country needs her.
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As a white college-educated woman, I found the mystery of "Who is the real Elizabeth Warren?" more and more puzzling as the campaign wore on. One day, she was the downtrodden pregnant teacher who scratched her way out of poverty, the next a vicious would-be assassin of Mike Bloomberg, all the while waving her arms wildly, shouting, "I have a plan!" as she lined up for selfies. I understand that Warren is smart and I admire her passion, but she always seemed embarrassingly un-Presidential. I don't think that Angela Merkel would take Warren's "pinky promises" any more seriously than she takes Donald Trump's Tweets.
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She was the class of the field. I plan to fire up Mozart’s Requiem to observe the moment.
She is to the left of Biden. And throughout this interminable process the sum total of the center-left candidates exceeded that of Warren and Sanders combined.
She is, in fact, truly distinguishable from Sanders, but voters didn’t get the memo.
One takeaway that transcends Warren: God help you if you get early publicity or, worse, are the front-runner. Keep your head down.
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Bill Maher admires Elizabeth Warren, but he pinpointed her weakness as a presidential candidate running against Trump with this line:
"A lot of Americans see a woman with a bunch of plans, who seems to know everything, making demands for change, and they think 'I already have a wife.' "
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Thanks to Elizabeth Warren for a well done campaign and for giving us yet another great example of effective leadership from women. You were a wonderful role model and we are lucky to have had you as a candidate! Blessings to you and your team.
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I proudly cast my primary vote for Elizabeth Warren. I think she was the best candidate and I still think that, not just because she is representing Massachusetts but because her life experiences and obvious intelligence, her willingness to release detailed plans about her policies as well as her work to establish the CPFB impressed me above all the other candidates. In addition, I find her warm and personable and someone we could be proud to represent the US, both internationally and domestically.
Like many others I will be "Voting Blue, Not Matter What", but I think the US missed a real opportunity for a better future with Senator Warren.
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Personally I think that Senator Warren should announce that she will endorse whoever wins the nomination. The Democrats need to be UNITED behind whoever the nominee is and work towards a large voter turnout. As we saw in 2016 a low turnout works in favor of Donald Trump.
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Biden guarantees low voter turnout exactly as Clinton did last time. Trump wins again. Which we see, and is well-documented, our American Oligarchs don’t object to nearly as much as a leveled playing field and slightly less unconscionably brutal society. So, you have no problem with that then, too, right?
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Warren almost made me feel that she is a politician who changes her mind according to what is popular although I felt she was more reliable than Hillary Clinton. As a candidate, I felt she would have been better than Biden, Bloomberg and others conservative candidates. If she meant what she was saying, and not just trying to attract votes, she will support Sanders as he is closer to her in what she was offering to do if she was elected president. Having said that, I believe deep down she looks out for the existing economic system than anything Sanders is offering as an alternative. She is more conservative than what she was claiming to be as per her voting record. So she will probably endorse Biden confirming my doubts about the legitimacy of her promises. As per being a woman, it would have been nice to finally have a female president who is a little more liberal than the usual men who are elected.
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I like MUCH of what Ms. Warren stood for in this campaign and I sincerely hope that we have not seen the end of her on the national stage. Massachusetts voters are lucky to have her representing them.
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I supported her. I know she came off a little schoolmarm-ish, but she knew what she was talking about. Her credentials for taking on Wall Street, the financial sector, and multinational corporations is proven, as opposed to Sanders stump speech rhetoric. Reading other comments about her being a white, elitist’s candidate was a surprise, and a criticism I don’t understand. The Medicare For All, free childcare, free college tuition was too much. It didn’t bother me because I knew it wouldn’t get past Congress. Whether it’s Biden or Sanders, I’ll votes for him to get Trump out.
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@Scott " The Medicare For All, free childcare, free college tuition was too much"
Then why did you support her? While some of those initiatives may not get through Congress, it reflects the thinking and priorities of the candidate. To me, it indicates that she is out of touch with reality on how some of these things are going to be funded and how they are going to affect the economy when taxes have to be raised to pay for them.
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@PK
Because of all the candidates no one has done more to help working class people, taken on the banking industry and gotten quantified results.
I don’t think any of the candidates has a real handle on whether MFA, or revamping Obamacare is the best move. It’s way too complex to evaluate single handedly. The trade-offs versus the benefits are what Congress will have to get into. Remember all the twists and turns on Obamacare? The next step will be the same. Candidates aspirations are a part of every campaign. Especially in the primaries before the general election.
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I'm a woman who voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary, Hillary in the general, and have supported Bernie in this primary almost from the start.(My male partner voted the same.)
While I was open to Warren at the beginning of this election cycle and would have fully thrown my weight behind her if Bernie (or another candidate with Bernie's ideas) was not running, she wasn't my first choise for me. There are absolutely valid arguments for choosing a more moderate candidate who might appeal to moderate voters, but I believe that the Democratic party lost the Midwest in 2016 BECAUSE of its commitment to moderation, and I want to see a candidate with bold ideas who has a history of fighting for the working class. While Warren has a much better record than most, I find Bernie's to be better.
Sexism is absolutely alive and well, and I don't doubt that all the female candidates suffered from it. But. Plenty of us are choosing Bernie for his platform and his ability to beat Trump. Warren and Bernie supporters may have arrived at different conclusions, but I'm willing to bet that most of us arrived at those conclusions honestly.
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@Denise What "sexism" has to to with her being 3rd in MA?
@Henry I don't think you read my comment carefully. Plenty of commenters here are claiming that sexism is the only reason Bernie supporters didn't get behind Warren - I'm saying that for plenty of us, it was because of her platform.
I voted for Elizabeth Warren in the California primary even though it was pretty clear this news was coming. She would make the best President. The unfortunate reality is that she should have run in 2016 which probably would have negated the Sanders movement entirely as he said he only ran when she didn't. I implore Senator Warren to endorse Joe Biden and hopefully Mr. Biden has the sense to put her on the ticket.
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So support for progressive policies Americans desperately need and deserve, like the rest of the world has, were a shame?
@Andrew You did the right thing. Vote for the candidate who you feel would be the best in office and who shares your values.
Out of all of the candidates I am the saddest about Warren. Buttitieg was my second favorite. So now that both of my favorites have dropped out, I still do not want Biden. Look at how Wall Street cheers? Do you think they care about any of us?
I am a moderate. I will vote for Biden if he wins, but I know that he was not the best candidate for the people. He was the compromise candidate for Big corporations and Wall Street money. They carry old ideas of capitalism.
Wouldn't we have been better off with a more progressive President now that the public is facing the need for prolonged sick leave and medical coverage with the coronavirus? We needed someone to fight for us.
Bernie Sanders is my third choice. Maybe there is still hope.
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We are down to three white men in their 70s. Bernie’s yelling (or revolution) doesn’t compare favorably to Warren’s “shrill” (or policies), but he is still in the race, and she is out. Klobuchar is head and shoulders above most (if not all) of her competition, but she’s out. In 2016, it was “Of course, I’d vote for a woman, just not that woman”. It seems all female candidates are “that“ woman, regardless of qualifications. Result is three white men in their 70s, with too many issues to list. Surely we can do better.
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@ESF: Judging by the primary results thus far, I'm betting we never will.
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She will not be missed here. I do not think she has what it takes to be a grand stateswoman. I lived to see Golden Meir, Indira Ghandi and the formidable Margaret Thatcher. She has a divise streak and should learn to be less strident.
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@Ghislaine Eyer I quite like Warren but I don't disagree with you about her divisiveness. She is so intelligent yet engages in a kind of 'attack'-style way of thinking that is not very reflective. Her heart is in the right place. I think she even acknowledged that she knows she does this in debates.
It's not always 'us versus them', the way it can seem in Warren's world. Sometimes you need to be able to imagine why the other side thinks the way they do. Or how one might be contributing oneself to a situation. I don't mean the situation of why she didn't win, but just generally speaking.
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@Ghislaine Eyer She is none of those three, true. But we must look in the mirror and ask ourselves how we can say her stridency is disqualifying when we have a strident joker occupying our White House right now (and that's how he got in, too). Bernie is still standing and he won't stop shouting and waving his arms around. Why should a woman candidate, to be acceptable, need to speak in hushed tones?
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That Elizabeth Warren came in third in her own state's primary says it all.
The Democratic voters who knew her best didn't like her.
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George Carlin said, "We like war. We're a war like people."
This could help explain why all the presidents have been men.
Men are more violent. In all of Warren's plans, can you think of one that includes war? The front-runner voted for war of aggression that exterminated hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
For those lusting for war against Iran, Biden is a no-brainer. He is not proposing expensive programs that would necessitate cutting down military spending.
(The candidate who is most closely identified with opposition to violence, Tulsi Gabbard, is getting maybe one percent. Tulsi is still in the race since she is running a cheap campaign, although I heard that at one rally, she was introduced with the creepy "Can't take my eyes off you.")
When the Chinese government creates the world's strongest military in a decade or two, and its interests expand further, leaving less room for the U.S. government to start aggressive wars, women presidents could very well predominate.
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She drove Bloomberg out of the race? Doubtful. More like she drove herself out with her display of nasty invective.
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She'll support Biden. Her constituency - she's from MA - voted overwhelmingly for Biden. Biden is on the way to being the nominee (sorry, Bernie supporters). If we're lucky, Warren will be serving in the Senate with Biden in the White House.
Why would she support Bernie? Not politically smart, unless she hopes to be chosen as Bernie's VP candidate, if he wins the nomination and (1) he's to smart to commit; (2) he most likely prefers an African-American woman as a running mate; and (3) he won't be the nominee - moderates beat progressives, even in CA (where the same-day vote placed Bernie third, behind Biden and Bloomberg).
Her smart move would be to endorse Biden.
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@RMC Massachusetts did not vote "overwhelmingly" for Biden. Warren and Sanders together exceeded him in votes, and their fans overlap a lot. I know - I live here.
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The double standards against Warren were marked.
Biden supported the Iraq war,
he has an obvious history of nepotism re his son and worrying tendencies towards women, all of which Im sure the GOP/Trump will use.
And worse he looks like age is catching up with his mind as much as Trump.
Sanders policies maybe fine, but he is a shouty idealogue with a very poor track record of getting things done, and his fans are his worst quality. Attacking everyone with a chip on their shoulder, whilst not actually turning out in the necessary numbers to vote.
She was the most prepared and she was slandered for the least . Eitherway if not careful, the US will repeat the UKs mistakes in 2020 as they did in the UK.
Of all the candidates I think Putin was most scared of Warren.
Its the worlds loss.
I sincerely hope that the purists on Sanders side and the socialism fearers on Bidens will coalesce behind whomever gets the nomination. And I hope that Sanders side wont continue to bully Warren for an endorsement, although fat chance of that I suppose, because the country will need an energetic VP who gets things done as I dont see either of the men in their state lasting full term.
Given she has such a broadchurch of followers behind her I doubt theyd all flock to Sanders anyhow.
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Warren lost every primary including her home state.
I won't miss her derisive , name calling.
We already have a president with those traits.
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"The news of Ms. Warren’s withdrawal further clarified that a HISTORICALLY DIVERSE DEMOCRATIC FIELD that began with a record number of female candidates has now become a contest between Mr. Biden, 77, and Mr. Sanders, 78."
By the time the Republican field had narrowed to realistically three in 2016 it comprised a total political outsider and two Hispanic-Americans.
Even if you buy her argument that Elizabeth Warren is a person of color I would urge voters to take a good hard look at which party represents more actual diversity.
Yes, even if you believe"diversity" is measurable by innate qualities like skin color and gender -- rather than that every single person since the dawn of time, living now, and to come, are unique once-in-a-universe occurrences and that we are all, in fact, out of the gate, equally and infinitely diverse.
@RLS We are all unique, but society arranges a hierarchy according to a person's sociaI location. That differential arrangement is a thing, and we call it diversity. If you erase it you are supporting a hegemonic (white male etc) identity at the top, because people are oppressed on the basis of difference. If you don't have language to talk about it you can't fight it.
Elizabeth Warren’s campaign plans were very ambitious but like so many liberal policies they would not work. She was unable to put a price tag on these programs and kept on dodging the question. She finally quoted a price but it was exorbitant and was not sustainable. Once people realized these were not realistic they lost interest in her campaign. She went from being one of the favorite candidates to rapidly dropping in the polls. Once she hit the low single digits, it was hard to regain her momentum. It was just not meant to be that she should be the first female candidate. It was not because she was a woman that she failed but she was just not the woman the voters wanted.
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I am sorry she had to leave. I supported her all the way. She has done us all a great service by insisting we discuss seriously all the problems we have but long ignored. Dorothy Cox Richardson had a fine piece explaining that Trump's removal was the most important issue and too many parts of our citizenry did not think she could beat him. I disagree.
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Thank you, Senator Warren. I'm sorry it didn't work out, but it wasn't any fault of yours. You have every trait necessary to be president; intelligence, toughness, compassion, among a host of others.
Our loss.
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Now that there's no possibility of Trump having to debate Senator Warren, he's probably the happiest person in Washington.
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@Scott Liebling: The stump isn't going to debate anyone!
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@Scott Liebling
He would have been of mixed minds about debating her. He would have been scared out of his mind because he knows she would have destroyed her. And he would have been over the moon elated because he believes that women are inferior men, and cannot possibly match his stable genius. His lackeys like McConnell and Graham would, of course, have handcuffed him to the presidential desk, to keep him from debating her. She would have destroyed him.
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She was the smartest and most moral of all of the candidates, and she was my first choice. However, she never should have attacked Bernie. Whoever advised her to do that was a Grand Fool. I hope we see her again soon. America needs strong, smart women in power, to help save the planet from ignorant men.
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@Malika
If she was so smart she would not have taken bad advice to attack others.
Hermione Granger, Lisa Simpson, Velma Dinkley, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren... So frustrating.
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You can't be a "front runner" when no votes have been cast.
This is an election. You would not call a horse the "front runner" before the gates had opened and the actual race had started. The term "favorite" is used before the race.
And in this case Warren was the NYT favorite. Which means nothing.
Once the voting started it became obvious that the people who actually decide who will be president (they are called voters) do not like her.
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As a supporter who planned to vote for her in NY, I am disappointed but not surprised. Her campaign manager and staff were tone deaf from my communications with them. I desperately tried to point out to them the need to create a brand around her strength, that one key policy that makes her stands out-Consumer financial protection-but in vain.
She went through too much policy too soon.
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Another Democratic presidential candidate bites the dust. Who will she support now? Will it be the progressive, Bernie Sanders, who she has had differences with and accused of saying a woman could not win. Or will she support Joe Biden who is the moderate (or at least moderate for a Democrat) which she has little in common with especially his policies? Maybe she will be promised a cabinet position by one of them which will affect her choice.
She may say later on that the reason she was not doing better was because of sexism but that is not the case. People will vote for a woman but it must be the right one. And a Elizabeth Warren was not the right woman. It will happen just not now.
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@KMW. So who IS the right woman? Not Hillary, not Kamala, not Amy, not Elizabeth. All are smart, informed, intelligent, experienced and accomplished, and all would be a far better President than than Trump.
Now we are reduced to a choice between two 75+ year old white guys. What makes them right and the female candidates wrong?
Although in the general political spectrum, it would seem that Elizabeth Warren is closer to Bernie, but in the real world, the results of Super Tuesday clearly indicate the American public is not ready to move too far left in one cycle. However appealing or even beneficial the more liberal policies of the progressive left, they have no chance of enactment in this political climate. Independents, disillusioned republicans, right of center democrats will avoid a hard left candidate and ensure a Trump victory. Down ballot Dems will lose support, keeping the Senate (more important even than the presidency) republican and risk losing the House. If Warren were to align herself with Bernie, she would go down with him; more importantly, weakened support for Biden will probably re-elect Trump. There will be no progressive legislation, there will be even more unqualified, conservative judges and RBG’s seat will not survive 4 more years. Warren’s support of Biden would undoubtedly give her strong leverage in his candidacy, a prominent voice/role in his administration, if not a place on the ticket. Winning the election is the ONLY goal; any changes in policy follow from that.
Consider: who could possibly be acceptable on a Bernie ticket, that would not drive any support further away from the American electorate.
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What Warren's failure suggests is that people don't care if you have a proven track record of caring for ordinary people and actually bringing about political change to help them. You just have to be affable. Or avuncular. Or, uh,not female.
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Ms Warren is one of the best our country has to offer.
I hope her voice remains strong.
Actually, she should have Schumer’s job.
We need a strong Senate for the sake of our country.
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Thank you for running Sen Warren. I have a great deal of respect for you. Please endorse, and encourage your supporters to vote for, Joe Biden. Job #1 is to beat Trump and Sanders can NOT win. This is a centrist country.
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@mark wrong. Biden's support is built on the pillar of the elect-ability myth. Progressive policies are extremely popular, which is evidenced on the exit polls when voters were asked in multiple states how they felt about MFA and they overwhelmingly supported it.
People right now are motivated more by fear than by policy, and they are placing all hope of beating Trump in Biden, but he will disappoint and underperform, it's who he is.
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@mark If this is a centrist country, how did far-right Trump win in 2016 against center-left Hillary Clinton?
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@mark Totally agree!
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Two thoughts:
1) Elizabeth was better than everyone on that stage combined.
2) The sexism in this country knows no generations as the support for Bernie shows.
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I'm absolutely serious: had she changed her clothes from time to time-she'd have had a much better chance.
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@areader
Good grief. Perhaps she could go the route of black suit, blue tie. Black suit, red tie. Black suit, plaid tie.
Oh wait, she did. Except her 'tie' was a jacket.
What you meant to say was 'if only she'd changed her genitals, she'd have a much better chance'.
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@areader
I did notice that, but I’m the same way! My clothes aren’t what makes me!
@rebecca1048
Totally agree!- your clothes aren’t what makes you. But do you wear the same outfit ALL the time?
If I’m a Democrat who becomes President, my first call is to Elizabeth Warren asking her to take her pick of cabinet positions. She’s capable of great things.
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Elizabeth remains my heroine, with a plan. I forever admire Elizabeth: Smart. Gutsy. Organized. Persistent. Well-spoken.
It's a white man's world.
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The Leader in the Clubhouse of people who aren't what they seem like.
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Maybe electing Barack Obama was the last good-faith act in American politics we’ll be seeing for awhile.
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I hope not, but i’m afraid you’re right. Trump has trafficked in daily fear mongering, and frightened people take few chances.
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But, she is not endorsing Bernie ! She used his policies, rode his coattails, usurped his supporters, pledged make nice pacts (that she broke), but isn’t endorsing him. She is nothing more than a run of the mill opportunist. That is the reason she is not to be trusted and it is the exact reason a woman is thought to be unelectable. The same reason Hillary was not elected. They are deemed deceitful and she just added fuel to that fire setting women back decades.
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I am heartbroken but understand. Joe Biden doesn’t hold a candle to Elizabeth. But I will vote for him because I feel reason is needed. While Elizabeth was close to Bernie in some ways, she was reasonable. He is not.
Please stay with us Elizabeth. In any capacity. Xo
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@Jean Diedrich
Just curious, after rejecting her, what exactly do you want her to do for you when you ask her to stay around?
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@Jean Diedrich
Let's make her Senate Majority Leader. Send money to blue Senate candidates and we can make it happen.
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Now it’s Warren, Kingmaker
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Good. Elizabeth Warren is now being punished for being so nasty toward Mike Bloomberg.
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@sharon5101
She was nasty to the other candidates as well. A couple of days ago before she dropped out, she trashed Biden at one of her campaign stops. I hope she is not picked to be the VP.
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Because poor, poor American Oligarchs are so sensitive, eh?
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@sharon5101 Nasty is one of those words directed at assertive women. There was a lot of criticism by candidates at other candidates, but only the woman is viewed as nasty.
Elizabeth Warren lost me to Pete when she doubled down on insisting that Medicare 4 All be mandatory. That’s a losing game and a primary reason why Bernie is not the right candidate.
Any headlong rush to M4A will bring the financially interested docs, admins, insurers, and pharmacy titans to the fight, scalpels out.
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@Chutes And Ladders A lot of people (doctors and nurses) support Medicare for All because they see up close how people without access to healthcare suffer. But you're definitely right about big pharma and the insurance companies, they will fight with ALL of their corporate blood money against it. I'm proud to be on the side of the working people.
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@Chutes And Ladders Are those reasons not to support M4A? My reason has to do with government telling me how I can get health care, a very personal decision, as well as a concern that it will cost too much. The dollar has to be worth something, or all of our time at work will mean nothing. I could care less about most of those interests you gave, except medical professionals.
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@Chutes And Ladders. M4A is not going to happen anytime soon but some form of universal health care is achievable. Step one is using the term "health insurance" when we are really talking about a sytem to finance health care for all. Paying for health care is a financial management excersise such as buying a house with a mortgage while insurance is what you buy to pay for the unlikely event your house burns down or blows away. We may or may not ever use insurance but we all require health care and at some point will require a complex expensive procedure. Not if but when.
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Get them arms flapping & fly away little obnoxious birde, fly away!
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This is one of the saddest days in my life. In ANY other country (India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, UK, Israel, Argentina, Portugal, New Zealand, Iceland, Norway, Germany, Rwanda, Liberia, Brazil, Malawi, Nepal, and many more that I forget), she would have been HANDS DOWN the candidate.
Time for a candid appraisal of our brains, hearts, and souls.
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@jen I mean, in most of the countries you listed, they're either more conservative or more left-leaning than America. Which would mean Biden or Bernie would still get the nomination, unless you're down for colonialism so Malawi can be ruled by Warren.
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@Michael The right of US is far more right than the right in a lot of other countries.
For example, in India, the current ruling party (which is far right) is still centrist by American standards. We still haven't given up a lot of our socialist roots and don't plan on giving them all up either. There's an entire generation of Indians who grew up under the socialist welfare program and are now enormously successful.
Ofcourse, I'm talking about economic conservative and not social conservative.
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@jen I totally agree and share your sadness not only for myself but for my 4 daughters and 5 granddaughters.
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Am voting absentee for Lizzie. We love you Elizabeth.
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@Tacomaroma, then your vote will go to TRUMP. Why oh why don’t people understand this??
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@Kan
Possibly she does understand this and considers both Biden and Trump (Bernie too) so far beneath Warren that her time isn't worth it.
Ya...I'm fighting the urge to think this too.
I think most of us will come around but, really...if your gender had never been fairly represented even when they are the obviously best option at this or all other levels of government wouldn't you be upset?
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@Tacomaroma
Proving, once again, that Warren's real base was not the progressives. Rather, her base was the clueless.
She did the right thing. Now Bernie too folds his loosing campaign instead of spoiling the chances of Biden to be our next President defeating the Conman, who was illegally elected with the help of Bernie. Bernie and his misguided supporters should know that their extreme liberal agendas of giving away trillions of dollars to deserving and non-deserving Americans making the USA almost bankrupt will not win the White House. We must defeat the Conman and this is the time; BIDEN should be alone in the race.
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@rosy dahodi: stump is well on his way to bankrupting America. If he gets the next 4 years, we are all toast! And for the record, stump has given away MUCH MORE MONEY than Bernie plans to. The difference is that Bernie is talking about giving it to the bottom 98% while stump is giving it to himself and his top 2% cronies!