The US Army took pretty extreme measures to forcibly quarantine citizens of New Orleans to stop yellow fever epidemics.
I can only imagine what Rush Limbaugh would have said at the time: “These sick liberals and their phony science! Now they are forcing Americans against their will into quarantine, because the “scientists” think an invisible speck carried around by a mosquito can kill a grown man! Has anyone ever seen this invisible spec? These so-called “germs”? Of course not! It’s just a scheme by the liberal scientists to spend money and control people! I’ve seen them walking around in their white suits and their spray cans, forcing people to drain swamps and cesspools all over the city. It’s ridiculous! Do you believe any of this? Invisible germs killing grown men? Of course not!”
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Did Chris Buckley get a "red" code? Isn't he stationed in Wuhan?
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China is a weird world. Reminds me of the George Orwell book 1984.
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Wonder if the NYTimes realizes that China spies on their citizens 24/7; has been for some time. This isn't new and won't go away. China is a communist country run by one party (communist) and lead by a self-proclaimed leader for life. What could go wrong?
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@Ma Like Facebook, google, amazon do not spy
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The only difference between what the Chinese people are being subjected to and what the rest of us are being subjected to is that our personal information is being reported to and shared with for-profit corporations. And that’s as far as we know. After the massive illegal surveillance of the American people during the Bush administration, it would be naive to think something similar isn’t already going on here right now. At the very least, what is going on here now is a difference not of kind but of degrees. It’s long past time for congress to enact strict privacy regulations against electronic snooping and data sharing to protect Americans from invasions of their privacy and the commodification of their personal information, no matter who commits it and no matter why.
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Speaking of sharing private information with its government ... #facebook
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Reminds me of the Bush terrorist alerts
Reminds me of a police state
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How very, very dangerous for human rights. As in America, we see the Chinese government exploiting the epidemic for its own crass political and, in their case, authoritarian purposes.
I hope the extremely inventive software engineers of the world create a screenshot and a dummy app ASAP that will defeat this hideous badging of an already very oppressed population.
Making people wear a color-coded badge of access to parts of a city has a very, very bad history in Europe. A history of which both the Chinese government, its citizens, and what is left of Human Rights Watch organizations need to take somber note.
First they put a million Uighurs in camps and then they issued colored badges to the citizenry at large...I don't want to know the rest of a tale that might begin thusly.
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There is no cure for ignorance!
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When facing a crisis, what can you do? are you going to hold your ideology of having freedom, or are you figuring out a solution that humanity can survive. Stop criticizing what they are doing, it is all about survival.
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@Simon
I'm afraid that the survival they are prioritizing is that of Xi.
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@Simon
My daughter has lived and worked in China for 11 years. At this point, she agrees with the work the Chinese government is doing to prevent the epidemic to get out of hand. This is a global emergency, they are trying to stop it.
She has a green code because she hasn't been in contact with sick people. Foreigners living legally in China received offers of help from the government in case they needed anything.
She feels she is safer in China at this moment, than in any other country.
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Digital data in China is giving the government more information about all its citizens and better control of all. Private companies are sharing personal information with police and government. It is required by Law!!!
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Time to see how the West handles this better. You had an extra month to prepare after all.
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So is it acceptable to see elders die of this virus but politically wrong to reveal too much privacy? what is more important? It is a difficult time, and Chinese government was able to control the outbreak with extreme measure.
I guess liberal journalists just have to expose some darkness under the sun.
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Logan's Run!
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Attention all in China: Take a screen shot of your screen while it’s green...the security people don’t look closely at your phones.
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Does this color code sound familiar?
Remember the idiotic color code the Georgie Bushters put together after 9/11? Red,yellow, and green to warn the feeble-minded and fearful among us to watch for signals of imminent attack via poisoning of the water or food or some other dark and mysterious conspiracy to bring down our democracy that 50% of voters don't participate in and another 25% on one side or the other oppose. Those were great days...no Trump, just failure after failure, and sooooo predictable...except for the war crimes and tragedies we were busy inflicting. War crimes and casualties are never predictable but never too uncomfortable so we accept them in lieu of mercy and thinking.Thank goodness we have learned from those experiences and have risen above pettifoggery to arrive at the full bloom of idiocy and recklessness.
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"Red means a two-week quarantine."
Gives new meaning to the song 'The East is Red'. C'mon, sing it with me:
The east is red, the sun is rising.
From China comes Mao Zedong.
He strives for the people's happiness,
Hurrah, he is the people's great saviour!
Etc...
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The top comment causes a wast of emotional energy. According to the replies below, which sadly not many will read, wildlife trade has lately been banned in China. Also, the source of this virus is not completely confirmed yet. Scientists are still sequencing the genes of this virus.
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@Bohemian Sarah The nytimes title goes, "China’s Ban on Wildlife Trade a Big Step, but Has Loopholes, Conservationists Say:
The coronavirus epidemic prompted China to permanently ban trade of wild animals as food, but not for medicinal use."
You have a different interpretation of the word "ban", fine. Personal attack is not welcomed. Thanks.
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@Lila
Not banned, per the World Wildlife Federation, because of a clever loophole that allows wild animals to be bought and sold for 'medicinal purposes.'
#50 Cent Party
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From the description in this article, it appears that the Chinese are tracking physical contact. Compare and contrast this to a telephone 'trace tap', where the N.S.A. uses telephone call logs (your phone bill) to establish communication networks - who talks to whom.
The civil liberties problem here is that the Chinese Government can identify someone as 'RED' for any reason, coronavirus related or not. The Soviets used a similar technique in the 1950's when they rounded up political dissidents before political holidays, and threw them into psychiatric hospitals for evaluation. Perhaps we will now see many involved in the Hong Kong protests get quarantined before major events.
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Personal freedom and epidemic handling are all complicated, intricate issues. To make a comprehensive assessment on a situation like this, more societal context and cross comparisons are needed. How effective will this be in comparison with other measures? We won't know until perhaps a few months later.
So I'm thinking: maybe it's better not to hasten to judgment just after reading a news article? Maybe it's better just to treat news as an info source (and not the only info source)?
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The admission of the technology involved here completes the cycle of metadata usage. Humans got access to the tech (phone/tablets), then opened their homes to all-hearing speakers.
This government is admitting they positively track and can now police the populace from a computer terminal. I guess most governments can do this now.
1984 was the jump off point.....
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I agree with some posters here. China is beating the coronavirus with some very restrictive measures. The political and personal freedom infringements can be addressed, but the Wuhan situation, including a lack of respirators, is waiting to repeat itself wherever possible. Any system that controls the spread will be needed.
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@Chris P. Why? This isn't even a nasty flu at this point. Too much hype, for too little infection. Looks like world got a snow day.....and it didn't snow.
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They gave me a number and it was 665, I then turned to the next in line and asked if he would change spots with me. He said we will go together.
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I love my personal freedom and privacy as much as everybody else. But it absolutely stops when it starts hurting other people. This epidemics demonstrates that a minority of people cannot be trusted to do the responsible thing, and all it takes is them for the disease to spread. We don't know yet, but if this gets too much out of hand, the same sort of measures could happen here. I agree though, the Chinese Communist Party cannot be trusted with temporality of the measures, or transparency of the discrimination criteria.
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@Frozy Anti-Vacers? Come to mind?
The biggest difference between American and Chinese is the Chinese see the world as it is while American love their illusion of choice and control.
Don’t like Trump? We can vote him out and put someone we like which at the moment is Sanders with less than 20% support. People that supported Yang, Warren, Biden will eventually “choose” Sanders and believe it is their choice.
Same with the sense of control. Facebook, Google, credit bureaus, half the apps on your phone all knows more about you than can recall and the government have warehouses of server with everyone’s internet/text/call/internet comment records. Yet American love to believe they control their own data. They believe the court will protect them even though everyone that ever tried to fight got railroaded.
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This monitoring is another step in governmental plans for total surveillance. The coronavirus situation is a ruse.
Eventually, this will lead to in-home TVs, monitoring your every action.
Will people continue to say - it's OK, I have nothing to hide?
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With two deaths in a Seattle suburb, cellphone records could provide state healthcare professionals information about everyone that came within 6 feet of those two individuals during the past two weeks. Should that information be used to save lives?
Do you send nurses knocking on doors or do you send police officers?
I live in China. And I lived in Battery Park on September 11, 2001. People in China are pulling together like New Yorkers did two decades ago.
Let's not use tragedy as an opportunity to critique economic systems.
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In 2013, flooding devastated southern Alberta causing a mobilisation of the army, complete with armoured vehicles and weapons. What followed was an exercise in the imposition of de facto martial law. Police went from house to abandoned house to confiscate firearms without warrant or permission in an operation later deemed unlawful. A good friend of mine is a senior figure in public safety. He advised me that those tanks blocking public right of way, in defence of property, were carrying live ammunition.
My greatest fear is that this virus, as relatively innocuous as it is in the grand scheme of things, will be used as another live training opportunity to curtail basic freedoms and democracy. In emerging tyrannies, such as Britain, a plan is being floated to isolate cities using the guise of the flu. In other places, like Iran, the right to publicly gather is banned, effectively stomping on anti government protests.
This is hardly the Zombie Apocalypse, but, given the low mortality rate, the response in relation to other pandemics is potentially draconian. Using a natural disaster is an expedient chance to practice in plain sight the Doomsday Plan that I’m certain that these right wing sages have long harboured.
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@Marcus Brant
So you think 2 percent mortality is a low rate . Just imagine, that the virus will flare up once a year (hopefully it won't). Sure the oldies will die first, but it could become quite nasty.
I am not in a position to judge whether or not the Chinese figures are reliable, but if they are, which I think is quite possibly the case, it looks like they have managed to control this outbreak. We, the Western world on the other hand have not and I am not so sure we will.
This starts to look like world war 3, except that the enemy is not Russia or the Islamic State, but a nasty virus. In war many rules are broken to survive, but that doesn't mean those rules can't come back afterwards.
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Appalling assault on privacy. However, couldn't citizens just screenshot the green color QR code & shoe that to move around freely? From the clip, nobody is scanning the codes, just observing them.
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if you want to pay for something, you show the code. obviously if you try to pay for something with a red code, you'll get flagged.
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I am appalled that some commenters think this is an appropriate use of technology. Together with face recognition, China will soon be able to track the movements and behavior of every citizen 24/7, taking totalitarianism to a new level. And this is just the beginning, with 5G promising more efficient methods of social control. I don't think even Huxley or Orwell could foresee this dystopia.
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@Jsailor
Orwell did in his book. China is taking it one step further.
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The thing about these color codes is that they are based on the honor system Yes, it does request whether it can share this information with the government, and you must tick that box, but it is up to you whether you want to indicate whether you're red, yellow or green. Those who are yellow or red have chosen to self-quarantine. There is no gun pointing at your head indicating that you must do this. Indeed, if this data is held and exploited by law enforcement agencies, that may not be good, but so far, it is a system that helps instill confidence and trust when you're surrounded by millions.
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@James R Dupak According to the article the software assigns the color code.
@James R Dupak
"Honor System?" If you want to go anywhere you must have a cell phone, install the proper software and "They" determine what color code you have which you must show at every checkpoint.
You can choose not to participate by simply staying home and not going anywhere.
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@Photomette What do you mean 'they' determine the color code? I determined it by ticking the boxes that applied to me.
I will give credits to all the methods that work for controlling the spreading of virus. In fact, I believe some states of China is safer than Korea, Japan, Italy and US with the help of these methods. Only those cats which can catch mice are good cats.
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@QBY agreed, especially judging from the long incubation period and highly infectious nature of this virus
So this is different from credit score that dictates credit card approval, signing up for internet, getting home loan, rent an apartment, finding a job how?
Wasn’t it just last week it was leaked that law enforcement and thousands of companies in the US pay Clearview AI for secretly tracking millions if people’s phone?
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@AmateurHistorian wrote: "So this is different from credit score that dictates credit card approval, signing up for internet, getting home loan, rent an apartment, finding a job how?"
Come to America and you will see how.
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Let's not let our tendency as Americans to revert to all-or-nothing thinking. Sometimes, common sense is needed during a public health crisis or to protect the greater good and this app makes sense to me. There is more room in the U.S. for more of this common sense. It is for OUR protection as a whole and a group and doesn't always have to be "me, me, me" as we Amercans often think.
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What a dystopian nightmare this world is becoming. Orwell couldn't have written this.
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@PubliusMaximus No, Orwell didn't have the imagination to describe such a perfectly sensible quarantine concept of the 21st century. Scary, very.
Could our fear of government, and perception of absolute freedom as Americans be our undoing in the face of a deadly epidemic? I remember a time when local public health authorities would place a quarantine sign on your house if someone had whoop cough, and they had other enforcement powers. Was that so bad? Hopefully the anti-science folks are sufficiently frighten of this pandemic that they will listen to those in the know. It's time for strong Public Health leadership.
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This is the government that Mike Bloomberg said in a September NPR interview is "responsive to its constituents."
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Asked about it last week at the SC debate, he repeated himself, and repeated that Xi Jinping "is not a dictator."
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As yourself, just how bad you want to dump Bernie?
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Pretty bad, actually, because Bernie praised the literacy programs these totalitarian regimes put their subjects through, as if needing to read were essential to plow one of Mao's commune's sorghum fields.
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In fact, the people had to read so they could be fed centralized propaganda. Few rural Chinese had radios in the 50s and 60s, and virtually none had TVs. If Mao wanted to control them, and then Deng, and since then the succession of dictators, they had to have a literate populace.
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This 1984-like surveillance? It was always coming to China under the CCP. If we keep making them rich, it'll get you someday too.
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@1984bigdady I wouldn't want to "say anymore" either if I were being monitored by the Chinese government.
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@West Coaster Don't want to say anymore, just enjoy novel coronavirus, salty American.
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From the start, I've suspected that that lockdown under cover of COVID-19 emergency, will be a huge practice exercise in control and regimentation of large municipalities, targeting Hong Kong. Per Winston Churchill: "Never waste a good crisis."
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@J111111 can you please stop spreading conspiracy theories- thousands have lost their lives.
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I know we're supposed to be regaled with anti-China hysteria at every opportunity, but this seems eminently sensible.
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It has little to do with ‘anti-China’ and everything to do with centralized government control of a population using mandatory non-transparent technology. If you believe the Chinese have free speech, freedom of assembly or any other freedom that we take for granted... you aren’t paying attention. And any government can use these tools to suppress rights and control a population in the name of ‘power.’
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Do you really think that the FBI doesn't have your data? No kidding.
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@Brian Ni
No, they don't, Brian. Unless we've committed a crime.
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No kidding.
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Good thing Mao simplified the Chinese language and raised the literacy rates. Hard to really run an effective propaganda program without the newspapers.
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And it would be impossible to keep track of all you subjects without those wonderful phones.
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@Brian Ni Didn't James Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence, assure congress, on national TV that the federal government was not collecting data on Americans through electronic surveillance? Oh that's right: He was lying, under oath.
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Instead of draconian methods, why not communicate your health status by putting emoji on your face masks?
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Throw that phone into the Yangtze River! Humanity has survived since it started without smart phones...
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Never let a serious crisis go to waste.
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Surveillance of the Chinese has intensified dramatically for the past 5 years or so. Face recognition, geolocalization at all time etc.
The government probably recognizes an opportunity when they see one: they can order all citizen to download a super intrusive tracking app. The police will now keep an eye on the whereabouts of all citizens, at all time and although some people are upset because of the risk level assigned to them, they still download the app thinking that it's the right thing to do.
Dictature in a modern world: we are getting closer to living in a movie everyday...
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@Elo I guess the government will have a lot of jobs in the future for police and administrative positions designed to monitor your fellow citizens. Even with all of that data what are they going to do with it? They will still need people on the ground to enforce whatever actions they want to take. Pretty soon you will need another layer to watch the watchers.
Just like the USSR, it won't end well and the system will come crashing down under its own weight.
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If I ever meet someone who was tracked, coded and confined by this app, I will convey my sincere appreciation for their involuntary participation in a no-holds-barred experiment in privacy intrusion, location tracking, AI and authoritarian government during a crisis where all means are justified.
The unfortunately population of human guinea pigs in China might eventually contribute to technical case history that will enable the free world to avoid the pitfalls of chasing glittering “app” ideas too quickly: lack of thorough risk assessment (“what could possibly go wrong?”); lack of appropriate regulation by government (“no one knows how much data we’re collecting” and “it’s totally anonymized” and “we’ll never sell it” and “of course we can never be hacked”); not to mention appropriate balance-of-power and oversight within government itself (“this tool will increase closed cases by 200%!!”) (“all this AI stuff is too complicated for a mere senator to understand so we’ll just trust what the lobbyists are telling us.”)
Just maybe …
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Then there are the Korean apps that tell you how far you are from someone that has a confirmed case.
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The Chinese citizenry has long since made a bargain to trade freedoms for peace, security, health, and prosperity. The CCP is using every single means available to deliver on those promises, while it amasses unchecked power. Only time will tell if that was a Faustian bargain.
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@Jeffrey W.
Compared to the free world, Chinese citizens have little security, health or prosperity, and as for peace, I'm not so sure the constant threat of being hauled off to the gulag counts as peace.
So it is a very poor bargain indeed. Alas, under this totalitarian government, they have little choice. And as for us, we are complicit when we allow our Western societies to outsource our manufacturing to this de facto slave labor economy. Including for critical pharmaceuticals.
By comparison, Faust struck a very fine bargain indeed.
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@Jeffrey W. Those who trade freedom for security will end up with neither
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All that app does is to analyze the areas you've been around in the past few weeks and shows a red flag if one has been to heavily infected places. Under the circumstances right now in China and given the huge population, honesty policy will not work. If you really cares that much, then just don't go out and don't use that app. It's that simple. For me, I'd rather have that layer of filter to feel safe at this moment.
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@Ken Naive.
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Let's see who is the best since now every government is now part of this containing virus challenge.
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@Max This will be very interesting. So far, it doesn't look good in my opinion.
If it is abused, it is far worse than the virus itself. Sadly, the chance of being used as total control is all too real
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Probably true but a very American way of viewing the world. Privacy is a very different concept in Asia, trading safety/security over what little privacy we have is likely much more acceptable to us.
While the concerns could be valid, it is a very westernized view of the world
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@Jack
That is a strange angle to take when the government that is issuing these color coded badges of access to people is also one that is imprisoning possibly one million Uighurs in camps.
Sounds like WWII to me. I seem to recall a time when my own people were given a yellow badge that limited their access to most of the streets of the city they were born in.
It's not about privacy. It's about the real motivations of totalitarian state.
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@Jack Don't assume all Asian citizens share such values. Safety and security can not be guaranteed by an authoritative government with a non-disclosed decision making process. Sacrificing privacy does not provide safety nor security, it just gives more power to authority. If you think such is a 'westernized view" why do you have democracy at all?
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@Jack indeed it is. But since it is the west that’s responsible for all of the technological and intellectual progress over the last few millennium it also means that it is not just a valid concern but one that is at the heart of being able to continue to evolve and progress humanity
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Instead of policing their citizens private life perhaps the Chinese government will work toward regulating and enforcing health and sanitation conditions in the open food market places in China as well as banning outright the wet markets selling wild animals and reptiles which can carry these virus that jump species. The market conditions shown in the earlier photos from the city of Wuhan were appalling. In the year 2020 in an industrialized country like China this is unacceptable. The Chinese government has for years been trying gain assess to markets in North America to sell their chicken products, but really how could we trust them to a proper health and safety inspection on these products packaging and shipping. It's just too much of a risk with their non-existent and shoddy quality control practices.
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Yes, echoing what Chin Peach said, they just recently banned wildlife trade: https://www.france24.com/en/20200224-china-comprehensively-bans-wildlife-trade-over-coronavirus. Just barely covered by media. The NYT even had a barely noticeable piece about it earlier, but it still picked your comment which assumes this hasn’t happened... Given the force with which msm criticized almost all aspects of the chinese handling of this crisis, maybe this deserves more emphasis coverage too, so readers won’t keep thinking nothing has been done on that front.
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@Sadie
i completely agree. History speaks for itself. China has repeatedly been caught violating health and safety laws, and their sanitation in animal production is appalling - just look at the African swine fever epidemic requiring the butchering of over a billion hogs, a mere few months ago.
They have pretended several times to shut down these markets, and for decades have promised to stop the trade in tiger and rhino products.
Those markets traded in endangered species, as well.
I will believe this when I see it. The Chinese government has almost no credibility in the free world, and for good reason.
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@Sadie here’s a quote from David Quammen’s interview on NPR regarding “wet markets”...
“... if you go into a live market and you see cages containing bats stacked upon cages containing porcupines, stacked upon cages containing palm civets, stacked upon cages containing chickens, and hygiene is not great, and the animals are defecating on one another, it's just a natural mixing bowl situation for viruses. It's a very, very dangerous situation.”
The whole interview if very informative/ hair-raising;
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/802938289
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As part of preparation for an impending epidemic it is recommended to have a small supply of medications at home - tylenol etc. Imagine if you ordered them online and the quarantine officials show up with the Amazon truck! Scary and not very useful either!
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It's reflexive of China to institute this level of surveillance after its been criticized so much for its failures to manage the epidemic properly. I would propose that it is not unlike most authoritarian approaches to unrest. Further, it's alarming to read most of the commenters acceptance of this use of surveillance to gain control of the coronavirus -- that privacy is a Western concept and not a fair application to this scenario. This level of surveillance puts us all on a slippery slope. There are probably better applications of technology that don't include putting a population's whereabouts and status in the hands of the government, any government. The danger is that it normalizes government surveillance in everyone's private life; that endangers liberty.
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Couldn’t agree more; however, Liberty is also ‘relative’ and China offers precious little of it so I’m not surprised that it’s citizens don’t perceive the danger.
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@Wendy Bossons News flash! There is no liberty in China (or Russia, Cuba, etc.).
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@Pat B. Many do, and are concerned. During the coronavirus outbreak, Chinese social media has witnessed a wave of demands for more freedom and critiques of policies. These trends often (*not saying always*) tend to get unnoticed by the media, which likes to emphasize the stereotypical nationalist bunch.
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Enter conspiracy theories. Is it crazy for one to wonder how much of the Coronavirus scare has emerged because the government of China was looking for a cause to roll out greater controls of the public? It’s a dangerous disease for the elderly and immunocompromised, to be sure, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t also being hyped. Is this one reason?
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@J.P. Johnson Criticize China for its mistakes so long as you have concrete evidence. What you said is basically an assertion that can mislead other readers.
@J.P. Johnson It is not being hyped. Common flu once infected around 1/4 of world population. Millions of people die even if it has a death rate as low as 0.1 percent. If the new virus spreads all over the world, with death rate around 2, probably billions people will die.
@Freda You'll note I phrased it all as questions, not as assertions. I think they're valid questions. As for concrete evidence that they're controlling the movement of people, that's a fact stipulated in this article. The question is whether it is for good reason. Note that nearby Japan has reported 900+ cases, but things aren't exploding into a crisis. South Korea, too, although it has been harder hit, seems to have things under control without needing to resort to digital surveillance.
As to "misleading" other readers, I would hope that NY Times readers are critical thinkers, and able to differentiate between "assertions without evidence" and questions about motives in the face of a factual article.
I am no fan of Chinese surveillance - and neither am I a Luddite.
But give China credit for trying everything to contain this virus in very trying circumstances.
Why have innovative technology when you cannot deploy it in an innovative manner.
Sure, it could be abused or even in some countries illegal or considered anti social.
But China - with it's history of communism - it's tendency to baby it's vast population - this is hardly extraordinary.
And I submit - some good science of controlling an epidemic - might just come out of this new deployment of a technology.
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@Neil Maybe it seems acceptable because it's in China and not here?
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@Neil wrote: "But give China credit for trying everything to contain this virus in very trying circumstances."
Really? Health Expert Xi Jinping earlier announced that China will use "traditional Chinese medicine" to treat coronavirus victims, which is precisely what created the present crisis. Moreover, China has said that it will still import wildlife, including endangered wildlife, for "medicinal purposes".
If China, and especially Chairman Xi, were "trying everything", they would acknowledge that quackery is no substitute for science-based medicine, and they would cease all imports and uses of wildlife, period.
In fact, what China is doing is performing Health Care Theater for its world audience. Nothing more.
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@NorthernVirginia Your dislike of Xi is well warranted. The situation in China looked very grim to me in the first month of the outbreak, and Xi should be held accountable. But Health Care Theater? Some seem to think that a hatred of Xi justifies anything they say. https://www.wsj.com/articles/drop-in-new-coronavirus-cases-in-china-offers-hope-that-its-outbreak-is-ebbing-11582636045.
very well reported story.
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Normally, I would be very offended that this surveillance is occurring. However, given the nature of this disease and the fact that is was caused by the Chinese, I am happy the government is trying everything to stop the spread.
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@Jeff Yes， you are right. They have to do it. But when talking about source. It is still unclear.
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Reminds one of the "Germans & WW2". Then they used the Star on clothes, now AI technology.
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They’ve already locked the Uighurs up in labor camps. Good comparison, sadly.
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@Gyns D
Nice comparison except China isn’t the one shunning everything “Chinese” including the people because “they are germ carrier”
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