Most of the points made in your report appear to be credible. It may not be a coincidence that the police, who report to the Minister for Internal affairs, aware that the protests in Delhi were against the citizenship law actively engineered by him, did not want to put themselves out to bring order, for fear of incurring his displeasure! However there are also signs that Muslim leaders including a Muslim Corporator from a party in opposition to the Central Government, seem to have been suitably armed for a major confrontation. The major worry though, is that a judge at the Delhi High Court who made major criticisms of the police inaction asking them for an explanation within 24 hours, was himself ‘transferred’ to a Court in another part of the country within 24 hours of him making his criticisms of the Police!!
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And where is the condemnation from the Trump administration of the bloodshed? And would the attacks have occurred if Mr. Trump in every way hadn't shown support for Modi and his policies. Trump and his cohorts share equal responsibility with the racist Indian government and the police who stood by as the innocents were slaughtered.
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It is common knowledge in Delhi that these riots are all organized by the ruling BJP party as evidenced by the hundreds of videos on Twitter that show the Hindu mobs being helped by Delhi Police.
Modi did the same thing in Gujarat riots where his police actively helped the rioters by disarming and removing the Muslims from protecting their neighborhoods and then leaving the Hindu mobs free to kill and loot. They are diciding India and will leave it in tatters.
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didn't trump say something about how india has "rule of law"?
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The leader of a country sets the tone.
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@RT Completely agree!
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One question- Why India was split into two countries after gaining independence from the british....?!
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The only appropriate response whenever you hear commenter saying "India is a biggest democracy in the world" is to snicker.
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Please be updated with true information, as many petrol bombs, broken bricks, acid packets and many other components were found on the roof of a local muslim leader, were being used for violence.
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Hindu terror at its best. All through a government sponsored program, paid and invoked by a terrorist in the form of a prime minister.
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I can see that happening in the US.
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Crops of violence grow under Modi's harvesting of hate. India is failing to keep its secular credentials.
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If this story sounds familiar, we saw such a police and fire department failure to act before--on November 9, 1938, to be exact. This was when German Jewish businesses, religious, and other institutions were torched, destroyed, etc. And it's ironic that this happened the day after the visit of our own wannabe despot, Trump.
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Pulitzer Jeffrey Gettleman makes it clear.
Credit Trump. It’s not that simple, but it is. Our cruel, vicious, fire tongued president gives cover to racism world wide... in our name.
May the Democrats win. Canada is not an option for us. We remember Vietnam, Nixon, Johnson. We remained.,
This time it’s different. This president really doesn’t care.
Minorities are at risk, world wide.
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India has nearly 180 million Muslims. There is no military or government in the world that can control 180 million people. If there is mistreatment of Muslims on a large scale as this article seems to suggest, there would be violent protests everywhere, not just Delhi.
Please stop making a mountain of a mole hill.
Just as anti-Trump hyper ventilation has gripped the leftist bubble, so is anti-Hindu hysteria.
India has a history of religious tolerance that goes back at least a 1000 years, long before Europe was even civilized.
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Modi is a failed leader. He has failed on economy, governance, law and order. Huge sections of Indian society are now living in anxiety, fear and stress. They have no faith in the police or the government to do the right thing. Law is applied selectively based on wishes of BJP leaders. Government employees who resist are removed from their job or transferred. It is bad but it can become worse. Indians need to unite and stand together to fight this senseless hate and violence.
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Is there any hope for India? Ever expanding population, limited resources and now government sponsored sectarian violence. Hard to find a bright spot.
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In addition to learning more about what the police did and did not do, and what self-serving politicians said to encourage rioting, I would also like to learn more about the individuals who joined the mobs in the street. Who are they? Where did they come from? How did they get there? What are their motives? Some witnesses have said that many in the Hindu mobs were from outside the neighborhood? Is that accurate? Was the same true for the Muslim mobs? Can we use footage from cameras, cell phone data, or other electronic information to identify individuals? Were there ring leaders? Who set up the first demonstration? Did they have a permit? Why did they schedule the demonstration to coincide with the arrival of a U.S. president? Were they expecting violence? Who called for young Hindu men to come to the riots? How were they notified? Did they bring weapons? Who had what to gain from this kind of violence? Perhaps we can get some of these answers from those who were arrested or received treatment related to rioting.
While all violence is bad, mob violence and mob violence targeting religion is far worse. My heart goes out to those who lost family members, friends, and neighbors, and to everyone living in the neighborhoods torn by violence. I hope that everyone can come together to agree that mob violence has to be stopped and that anyone who participated in, encouraged, or supported mob violence should be punished.
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India, with a population of 1.3B, with 10 plus religions, 100 plus languages, has its own many challenges. But its own unity in diversity has never been broken and will never be broken. Communal riots, sadly, are very, very common in India and this is one of them. For political reasons, this is being given high significance. More Hindus than muslims died in this riot, including a hindu cop, a hindu intelligence officer, etc. Tough to control massive illogical clouds intermingled with parties having vested interests. Wrong to say only muslims affected. During partition, India had 8% muslims and today they are 18%, flourishing in all areas of life. And, minority scholarships are highest ever under Modi, definitely not anti-Muslim. India was, is, and will always be secular.
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@dweepa
Sorry, not true, except for the fact that communal riots are fairly common and have become very common under mr. Modi. Muslims and dalits have been always sidelined , except for the fact that Dalits have reservation for education and jobs and even there they are taunted by uppercastes who say that they are not meritorious. Muslims have no reservation and they do most of the heavy -lifting. They are the ones who makes the dishes you eat on, the carpets that you have on your floors, the beds and bedding that you sleep on. Yes, everyone is affected , who is going to invest in India when the PM and his Communal party constantly taunt minorities.just a few weeks ago he said that one can tell who are the dissenters by the clothes they wear. One never knows when a riot will start . And yes, there are terrorists in both groups. The BJP has turned to communal ideology rather than nation building. They have put kashmir under lockdown and the rest of India cheered as if they had invaded and conquered a foreign nation. Really really sad. This Modi-cult will destroy you.
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Well said.When coming to India riots, Western media used tp say Hindu mobs and Hindu Supremacists.When it comes to NZ type mass shooting in the mosque itself they will say White Supremacists .But not Catholic supremacists.
Anyways, good reply.Appreciated
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@dweepa
Unity in diversity? Must be a cruel joke to the hundreds of lynching victims in India (most of them Muslim) who have no hope of getting justice after being tortured to death often in full public view by Hindu extremists who have a sense of impunity because they know that one of their own occupies the highest office of the land. Muslims are flourishing in India? Orwell would be blushing if I said that were an Orwellian lie. It is harder to get a job, nearly impossible to rent an apartment in a decent neighborhood in many cities in India if you are Muslim. This is coupled now with the threat of violence constantly hanging over their heads and disenfranchisement through a so called National Register of Citizens. India has become a scary country under a thuggish Hindu extremist leader.
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Few more points:
The Police Commissioner was given one month extension after his retirement. Nothing happens without a reason, right?
The judge who was hearing a case about police inaction and wanted FIRs registered against political leaders who gave hate speech, was transferred overnight.
Yes, most people are unfit to murder another human when they are alone. But a mob follows a different psychology. The leaders at the top know very well.
Sometime back, one judge hearing a high-profile case died suddenly under mysterious circumstances. The next Judge closed the case in one sitting.
Yes, our police force is not a professional one but this is not a rocket science.
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Did the police fail to act?
Not the right question.
The right question is: How much were the police involved in preparing for the atrocities in advance?
Answer: Very much, as always.
Nothing new here. It was planned out this way. As it was done previously, in 2002 in Gujarat and at other times.
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I came of age in India of late 80s and early 90s amidst religious, political and economic turmoil. I remember returning from the American consulate with a student visa in the wee hours of the morning as my home town was under a curfew. This was after insurgencies, IMF bailout, currency devaluations and doomsday predictions about India were commonplace.
Fast forward 25 years and far from doom, the country grew to an economy 10 times its size in 1992. Along with economic progress came improved social cohesion and large scale religious violence became less and less common ( with Godhra and Ahmedabad in 2002 as exceptions). It was truly a testament to the country's fundamentals.
But the last few months have really given me pause. During PM Modi's second term with Mr Shah as Home minister, we are seeing reversal of decades of progress. The legacy of this government is now an economic slump, reopening of old wounds and return of communal violence. The NE Delhi violence with mob rule and complete breakdown of law enforcement is something not seen in decades. This needs fixing before the damage is extensive.
Unlike many others, I am still a believer in India's resilience. Mr Modi was elected on improved governance and against a corrupt/incompetent opposition. Many of his voters are starting to question where things are headed. So are many of India's friends overseas. If there is not a course correction, his star will start to fade as well.
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In the world of Modi sympathizers, if a person or a group protests against BJP, RSS and rest of the Hindutva forces, then they must be Muslim, communist, illiterate or victims of conspiracy. In their mind, everybody in India loves Modi but reality is very far from it. You might wonder, why do they believe so? Simple answer: Whatsapp. BJP creates the false narrative and deliver it day and night, directly to their phone in the privacy of their homes. And, the gullible take it as a gospel and they spread it to their relatives and the chain reaction of misinformation starts.
I will recommend to these people to get off their whatsapp and actually speak to a poor person, student or a minority in India. Most Indians are deeply stressed out due to the policies inspired by Hindutva. It is very clear to all, that Modi is not focussed on economy and is engaging in agenda which is deeply divisive. These divisions are spreading far and wide. Incident in Delhi is just the beginning. Everyday conditions could become much worse for regular Indians if BJP keeps up the hate. They should instead focus on unemployment, healthcare, food prices and infrastructure. One can only hope that better minds will prevail and things will normalise soon. But, given it is BJP, situation can get worse too.
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With the amount of time world governments, the U.N., NGOs, academia, and activists spend on the Israel–Palestine conflict, you’d think it was the only struggles for partition and independence in the twentieth century. I wonder how many people know about the concurrent dissolution of the British Raj, which, in terms of destruction, death toll, number of refugees, and population exchanges, was orders of magnitude worse. Sectarian violence has been a feature of Indian life ever since. And then there’s Kashmir—still unresolved.
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Sad to say this is PM Modi's doing. He has hated Muslims since a very long time, and was able to hone this hatred while he was Chief Minister of Gujrat. He stood by and watched 1000 Muslims killed in a retaliatory mob encounter. Instead of preaching friendship and kindness, he has used the BJP built out of the RSS party, to which he belongs, to influence him in this quest to alienate Muslims.
Godse who murdered Gandhi came from this far right radical party. Modi has brought India to a new low. So low, that members of this party have erected a statue to Godse and garland it in praise of his murderous action!
Modi has chosen to divide and rule. He is uneducated and promises much. He is a sharp contrast to educated Manmohan Singh-the previous PM who was responsible for India's economic growth because he was an economist of repute, with a PH.D. from Oxford.
Many ex-Indians watch this from afar and regret this shift Modi has brought with him.
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To the hindus in India
Why do you worry so much about a religion which is not even 1/5th of your country’s population. If you don’t like a subject in school and don’t study, you will fail to be promoted to the next class however good you performed in other subjects.
To the muslims in India
Why don’t you invest your time and money on education for raising your status in the society. A good student is a good student no matter what the religious affiliation is. Don’t blame on poverty. I am not asking you to compete with MIT grad. Focus is important.
To all in India
Try to share resources. Just because a tree has been planted by your father does not mean only you can eat the fruits it bears. If there is a problem in your society, know that you are also to blame, however less.
To the world
Learn to coexist, come up with ideas to make the world bigger and better for everyone to live happily.
Once you come to the end of life, you may realize that all subjects that were taught in schools were important. Remember that we all are privileged to a certain level, so appreciate the life..
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Facts for 100s of years:
India has taken all refuges including Muslims for over 500+ years. No one has been kicked out. But here are some facts: (consider them as an example basis of any diseases spread among population)
1. Muslims < 2%, they follow all the rules and you won't see any diff.
2. Muslims < 10%, start demanding their rights and start pushing their demands on government.
3. Muslims > 10%, will start forcing their rules onto others.
They always feels persecuted even thought they have many countries just for them. They want to bring and force their beliefs onto others.
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@P2, This is truly unfortunate. Muslims are Indians too. For all of India's problems, it has successfully integrated a vast diversity of religions and ethnicities over decades. They are part of the fabric of Indian life and many fight and die for their country. From amongst 200 million Muslims in India, fewer were recruited by ISIS than individual towns in UK and Europe. It is an unheralded success story that is being torn apart due to short sighted policies and actions in the last year or so.
It is fair to push back against laws such as Muslim Personal Law which effectively creates a separate legal system and impacts women. But being Indian citizens they have as many rights as anyone else.
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@P2
Muslims at < 10% demand their rights - what does that mean? Do they not have rights? Is it wrong for citizens to ask for rights?
How do Muslims "force" their rules on others when they are a minority at 10% or even 20%? If Muslims ask/demand things from the government, what is wrong with that? The government in a democracy isn't it. Not sure what you mean here.
India is a secular country. Why are you writing this as if Muslims are foreigners? Racially, most Muslims in India are from the same race as Hindus. They were not transported there en-masse.
You write: "even thought they have many countries just for them" makes no sense. A person in Saudi Arabia does not think Egypt or Oman is "for them". A Muslim in India is still an Indian. Does a Muslim in India not belong in India?
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@P2 Bingo. you said it.
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Leaving aside from the politics of the CAA and the protests/counter-protests etc., I've never understood how someone can just lynch another person to death - someone who they don't know and has never harmed them. It is shocking that this is still happening in the 21st century; especially in a democratic and prospering country like India.
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@Sam
Mob mentality is a real thing. When "everyone is doing it" and the repercussions for getting in the way made clear, we are all likely to succumb to peer pressure and/or righteous fury.
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@Sam India is tough to understand, Sam. very, very, very tough. It has so many moving parts that when you think of it, you would be surprised as to how it is even able to function cohesively as a country for even a single day, let alone a century.
One of the moving parts is the huge difference in wealth and economic development. Though India has taken multiple steps to bring development to rural areas, many a times it is hampered by red tape, corruption, postponement, etc. So, many illiterates exist in rural areas that are more prone to these lynchings, and sometimes, personal vendettas and scores are also settled this way.
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The author has carefully chosen words to project Muslim victimhood to portray Modi's India on a negative light. He says the citizenship law was enacted to protect anyone escaping persecution, unless it is a Muslim. Well the law only covers about 30000 people of non-Muslim origin who were trapped in the regions that became 100% Islamic nations (Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh). Persecution of non-Muslim minorities in these countries is legendary. One just has to look at what the percentage of non-Muslims in these countries were when they started and now. Many were either forcibly converted, or killed or driven out. It is those who managed to escape, that came to India and sought refuge. So the law says those who came like this before 2014 get their wait period cut from 11 to 6 years. The others, Muslims included, for different reasons have to wait for about 11 years to migrate to India. That's all. Why would a Muslim be persecuted in an Islamic country. Did he not choose to live in that country because of his religion? Does he not have 53 Muslim countries he could go to? I can see how these foreign media are projecting a negative image of India. It is always "Hindu mobs" causing violence. Poor Muslims, they never cause harm to anyone. These are one of the most organized and violent communities across the world where they are in sizable numbers. One does not see any logic behind these massive protests and what has been enacted. It looks like a carefully planned event.
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@Mauryan
1. Firstly, India is a secular country and if she has to be a safe haven for the persecuted of other countries, then the wording in the law should be: we are open to ALL those persecuted in other countries.
2. Prioritizing one group in any form over others is not allowed in the Indian constitution.
3. India would do well to protect her own ravaged minorities being butchered on the streets.
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@Mauryan
"Persecution of non-Muslim minorities in these countries is legendary."
Is India trying to help out persecuted people? If so, why exclude Muslims? Why does the government need to discriminate among people suffering and only grant assistance to people of certain religions? India shares a large border with Myanmar where documented genocide has occurred and Muslims are still prevented from access to proper medical care and other basic facilities. If India can take people from as far away as Afghanistan, they can surely take people from an adjacent country - correct?
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@Gitanjali
The Indian constitution applies to Indian citizens, not refugees.
Plus, Indian law prioritizes all kinds of behavior on the basis of religion. The Right to Education law actually favors minorities. So, if you want to be truly secular, pass a uniform civil code. All religions to be treated equally. If Modi were to propose that truly secular law, guess who will lead the protests against it?
Finally, where are minorities being ravaged in India? A riot where the majority of the dead are Hindus can hardly be considered a one-sided battle. Why perpetuate that myth?
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It has been what, 70 years since India was partitioned into Muslim and Hindu countries? All of this propaganda is purely because India, as one of the BRICS countries, is opposed to USD imperialism. It is hilarious how many of these articles tie this to Trump, when this kind of violence has been going on forever. Why doesn't the New York Times report on how much Sikhs love Muslims?
The reality is the Muslim invasion of India left profound and lasting scars that are not going to be eradicated overnight. And we in America certainly cannot do anything about it.
This is India's problem.
What is our problem is what happens when India and the BRICS countries force USD devaluation. And this should be free of neoliberal leftist moralizing about racism and other isms.
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I grew up in India and immigrated to the US during the nineties. I’ve followed Indian politics over the years and it is clear that the BJP has turned a blind eye to, and even encouraged growing fascism and anti-Muslim rhetoric. The delicate fabric of Hindu-Muslim coexistence has been ripped apart thanks to the BJPs thirst for absolute power.
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@Syed Hussaini, MD : " ..... and it is clear that the BJP has turned a blind eye to ...."
This is how one prejudges somebody. Be specific and objective. BJP has made Triple Talaaq ( divorce by uttering word talaaq thrice in one go) in Muslims a crime. In the states where BJP is ruling there is never any anti-Muslim riot, 2000 in Gujarat was an exception.
BJP has done more to the upliftment of Muslims than others so called liberal-secular-dynastic political parties.
People who are not objective in their assessment end up being a vote-bank and are herded like cattle by wily and insincere politicians.
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Chhetri I would have to respectfully disagree.
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@Chhetri
You are right, Gujarat was the exception...just 2000-3000 people got killed in riots with Mr Modi as the head of state/province. This is how be specific and objective.
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These riots remind me very much of the 1959 anti-Greek riots in Istanbul. The government published and allowed false propaganda about ultra-nationalist Greeks blowing up the childhood home of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk in Thessaloniki. The retaliation was days of Turkish men, imported to Istanbul and given weapons by the the government, burning Greek homes, businesses, and churches, attacking priests, and pulling bodies out of Greek cemeteries. The police did nothing for days. And when Greek-origin citizens of Turkey fled to Greece, Canada, or elsewhere, the Turkish government expropriated their properties and businesses.
The wheel spins, nothing changes, and we repeat the cycle of violence over and over again without learning.
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India is an eroding state where democratic values are getting trampled to satisfy Hindutva forces which are highly communal. Nobody is secure there. Hindutva mobs have targeted people from all walks of life. Poor and minority groups are especially vulnerable because they cannot buy their way out of violence and discrimination. Hindutva groups under Modi are free to roam and target anybody they perceive as their enemies. Current event in Delhi is just one example but if you look back, this trend of divisive politics and violence has been going on since 2014. Modi and RSS sympathizers try to distract broader public by making it a "Hindu-Muslim" issue or "India- Pakistan" issue or "Riots happen in India" story. Do not be distracted by their tricks. On one hand, they sit in America and enjoy all the rights of a democratic society, on another, they freely and openly support BJP which is directly causing suffering of millions of Indians. Most Indians across the world are aware that Modi is a failed leader who is only good at giving inflammatory speeches and passing controversial and unconstitutional laws. On economy, he has been a colossal failure. Same is true when it comes to governance and law and order.
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Modi waited 4 days to send out a “tweet” asking “peace” to prevail. There was no admission of guilt about his abusive new law that started the rioting; and about the goons of his party inciting the violence and about police being asked to standby and watch.
While Delhi burned and 37 people lost their lives, Modi himself was pretending to be the modern day Gandhiji in Gujarat’s Sabarmati Ashram...the hypocrisy and irony are stark, horrifying and bone-chilling.
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Back in the 80's, 90's when Indian Gujarati merchant living in African countries faced atrocities by the hands of locals to bring them back to India, there was no need to change the basic definition of "citizenship". Rather, bills were passed and the state took actions to bring in these Indians living in Africa.
To bring in minorities from Pakistan, Afghanistan, why should there be a change the definition of Citizenship now? Why was phrase "religious persecution" not included in the the Amendment Act? Why did we exclude Sri Lankans Hindu Tamils living in Tamil Nadu as refugees?
We witnessed a state sponsored pogrom. When cops and mobs walk down the streets together and decimate minority communities, it is a state sponsored pogrom.
Sanctions on Amit Shah now!
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@John One cop shot in the head. Another Intelligence officer tortured to death. Both Hindu. Sure sounds like state sponsored pogrom... Even now CAA has not changed any definition of citizenship-its an act exactly like the ones you describe approvingly-limited in scope to refugees from certain countries from a specific period in time. Every person in any part of the globe from any religion or race, remains free to apply for Indian citizenship via the regular channels.
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It's certainly nothing new that racism, violence & religious persecution all follow trump no matter where he goes. He's the figurehead of hate without peer.
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I'm not sure what the point of religions are.
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@John Doe Originally, religion was to explain things that could not be explained. Science has made religion obsolete, but it remains largely as a mass superstition preyed upon by unscrupulous practitioners for enrichment and self advancement.
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I was born in India, and I visit that country every year. It is sad to see the country regressing into anarchy rather than progressing towards a bright economic and a sustainable future. With political divisions, radical ideologies, rampant corruption and cronyism at every level of the Indian societal fabric, excessive filth and environmental apathy in cities and towns, and a dysfunctional local governance, India will end up being a "third world country" for the foreseeable future. I wish Indian citizens will show the audacity to challenge the current status of development in India and transition towards a bright future for themselves as "Indians" and not as polarized Hindus and Muslims.
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@Sad Indian
Part of the reason India is not progressing is due to their currency being artificially devalued, and failure of past governments to turn to slave labor/export economics like China.
When we return to a new Bretton Woods System, India will be able to more effectively compete on the global market, obtain natural resources they lack, and not be subject to predatory American banks.
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I’ve been traveling to India on and off for 25 years and am no longer shocked when someone turns to me and, without any prompting, starts to disparage Muslim people out of the blue. I’ve seen young men pulled from buses and harassed for being Muslim. I’ve been to Ayodhya and been show photos sold as postcards of sword wielding Hindu nationalists, as in a medieval siege, attacking a mosque, allegedly as it sat on the birthplace of Rama. And, more and more, the commentators on the television stations are equating Islam and terrorism. Really has been an increasing sense, for me, that there’s blood in the water and the sharks are waiting to strike. Muslims are an easy, socially acceptable and historical scapegoat for the Hindu majority in India. India will be poorer for every Muslim, and Hindi, killed in this nonsensical violence. Modi and the BJP will profit from it though
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If there were no Muslims in India higher caste Hindus will be killing lower caste Hindus and vice versa. Indian politicians have inherited the policy of divide and rule from the British. Women are unsafe in most of the Indian cities, because there are rapists, molesters and sexual predators on the prowl on the streets all the time. Abysmal poverty, child labor, lack of law and order, riots, vigilante justice, orchestrated killings by police are almost order of the day. There are Hindus who still support the practice of “sati,” which is the practice of burning of the widow in the cremation fire of her husband. This poor state of affairs is of their own making. If they want they can blame other communities and religions, which they will do. But it won’t fix their problems. There are other religions too like Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, Jains, etc, in India. At some point of time all of them are going to be blamed for the societal ills in India. Someone called India a dark continent. It is hard to see any light there.
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@Ravi Srivastava :
Do you know that the current PM of India , Narendra Modi is from Backward Caste?
The chairman of the committee that drafted Indian Constitution was Dr. Ambedkar, who was a Dalit, the lowest among the lower caste.
About 50 percent of jobs are reserved for the Dalits and backward castes. About 30 percent of seats in Legislature are reserved for the Dalits and Backwards. About 30 percent of seats are reserved in prestigious IIT , IIM and AIIMS PG exams are reserved for Dalits.
So the idea that the minorities or dalits or backwards are being exploited is ridiculous.
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@Chhetri
Do you know that Modi is also uneducated and not skilled in any trade? He can barely understand english or any of other Indian languages.
Ambedkar was an Indian jurist, economist, politician and social reformer. Graduate of Columbia and London School of economics. Ambedkar worried about the state of Dalits under upper caste Hindus and Hindutva groups, that is why he instituted the reservation system. Comparison is not even in the same dimension.
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@Chhetri
He is part of Ghanchi caste, which belonged to upper caste till 2002. The federal government which was led by BJP(his own party) put this into backward caste.
BTW, by 2002 was already the head of state of Gujarat.
Why give half truth?
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Why Didn’t the Police Act?
Simple answer: Because Modi, Amit Shah, BJP and other Hindutva forces do not want them to act. Same thing happened a month ago when Hindutva goons brutally attacked university students. Same story in Gujarat in 2002 and in Uttar Pradesh since 2014. Same actors, same actions and same human suffering. Trend is very clear, wherever Modi and team shows up, divisive politics follows and eventually violence erupts and innocent Indians end up paying with their lives or livelihood.
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@Mango Alas, your hypothesis would have been true if only more muslims were killed. Look at statistics in Delhi communal riots. Out of 34 deaths, more than 20 are hindus. Hindu intelligence officer was outed, stabbed 400 times, eyes gouged, throat slit and thrown in open drain by a muslim mob. tons of such stories. Amit Shah was given clearance to step in and now Delhi is back to normal
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@dweepa Surely you have heard about the Delhi High Court Judge Muralidhar and what transpired in the court recently? By the way, he has been transferred with immediate effect.
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The Delhi police are directly under the Interior minister, Amit Shah who is the sidekick of Modi. He has been a right-hand man of Modi since the time Modi was the Chief Minister of Gujrat. There is no daylight between the ideology and Muslim hatred mindset of the two men. So when the Delhi police do not act against the rioters or do not file an FIR ( First Information Report ) against them, it is at the behest of the Islamophobe duo of Modi and Shah. The least the USA can do is to put sanctions against these two persons, seize their accounts in US banks and suspend their visas to come to the USA.
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@Syed Abdulhaq False accusations. People like you have been at them for showing force in Delhi Universities for the last two months and now you are talking the other side? Muslim mobs threw petrol bombs at them. Did you see the pictures circulating widely of muslim women throwing bricks at cops? Big, big bricks. A muslim Muhammad Shah Rukh shot a cop. And you suspect Delhi Police of not doing enough, now? India is fighting jihadis and USA understands it well.
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@Syed Abdulhaq
Delhi Police are investigating a Muslim political leader Tahir Hussain from the riot affected area for the killing of several Hindus, including an intelligence agency official.
Videos have surface in which Mr. Hussain can be seen directing young men to throw acid bombs. https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/aap-tahir-hussain-fir-section-302-ib-officer-ankit-sharma-murder/
The attempts by Islamists to turn India into an Islamic nations have been going on for several decades as seen in the increase in the number of madrassas in India from 88 in 1947 to more than 600,000 today. Propaganda against Hindus and Indian government continues unabated with the help of helpful media.
Hinduphobic journalists continue to help spread canards against the government while overlooking the criminal doings of protest leaders and rioters.
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Mahatma Ghandi was killed by a Hindu extremist. Now, all of India is under a Hindu extremist PM.
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@Combak
What is the point? You think this does not happen in other religions? Islam has a history of such killings. Wars between Iraq & Iran (Shia & Sunni) and there are several other sects of Islam where this is normal. Martin Luther King was also killed by a Christian. Prime Minster Modi is rated as the top world leader. Please read.
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Modi and his ilks are deflecting their murderous acts/deeds. It's true that there are religious extremists in all religions but the article is about Hindu extremists so do focus on the topic at hand.
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@Jethinder
Point is Hindutva ideology is violent.
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Hindu Muslim riots are not new to India. One of the reason given by founders of Pakistan in 1947 was that the two communities could not coexist. After partition, there were 8% Hindus in Pakistan and 10% Muslims in India. Now there are less than 2% Hindus in Pakistan and 16% Muslims in India. INDIAN Muslims are prospering in Bollywood and civil services. NYT reporter asked Muslims for their views on riot but didn’t do the same thing with Hindu community.
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@Humanist
This is not a Hindu-Muslim or India-Pakistan problem but a much bigger issue of state sanctioned discrimination and violence against perceived enemies of BJP and RSS .
In 2020 alone, they have attacked students, professors, opposition parties, young couples, dalits, women, atheists, farmers, liberals, businessman and journalists. List goes on. Any group that speaks up, gets attacked right away, and police is either missing in action or is providing active support to perpetrators. They have even weaponized other government institutions such as Income tax and central investigative agencies. Businesses are issued notices for speaking up. Politicians are getting locked up just because they are in opposition.
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@Mango
It's an Islamist narrative...
The truth is India is a soft state...only elites prosper in such an environment irrespective of the religion they follow.
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@Humanist Correctly said. Sad that media is choosing to present one side of the story and that is never good in the long run! People need to use logic and realize if muslims were badly treated in India, how would they increase 8 to 17%? Muslims get economic, financial and even Haj aid, that no other country gives. And, to be on the record, under Modi, minority scholarship is at the highest levels ever in crores and crores of rupees. Anti-muslim? definitely no.
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The policemen in India are unarmed. Not like the NYPD guys with carbines and Kevlar shields. Look at this picture of one Mohammad Sharukh pointing a gun directly at a policeman's head.
https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/caa-nrc-busting-10-big-lies-peddled-by-the-left-to-provoke-protesters-into-burning-down-delhi
If this had happened in the US, the carnage from police activity would have been in the hundreds. Indian police are deliberately ill-equipped by the political to prevent any preemptive action which might alienate their vote base.
The political opposition in India has fueled this by deliberately misleading their vote base on the CAA. Yes I mean the Indian National Congress and the left parties.
For the nth time Gettleman, the CAA provides citizenship to persecuted religious MINORITIES from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Muslims are not a persecuted religious minority in those countries.
India is not under any obligation to give citizenship to illegal economic migrants. It is exactly the same approach in the US even before Trump.
Over 500 foreign Muslims were granted citizenship for POLITICAL persecution (Adnan Sami. Taslima Nasreen et al). Look it up Jeffrey. And that is as it should be.
BTW, the same people protesting the CAA were those against granting residency to Taslima Nasreen because the Mullahs would be upset.
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Its not the CAB which people are protesting abt its combination with NRC. CAA is brought to give citizenship to around 14 Lakhs hindus who are in Assam NRC list and BJPs primary votebank for that region. Do you actually think that this govt seriously wants to protect minorities of neighboring countries? If yes then they would have clear answers for questions like, how would they recognize if the person is actually of minority or not and how can they determine if he is not trying to migrate due to economic reasons? Cant neighboring intelligence agency use minorities in their country to infiltrate using this scheme? The economy is in mess country is sliding down in hunger index that means govt cannot even provide food and proper living conditions for their citizens and they will provide to the citizens of other countries? Then comes NRC, your passport, voter ID, school leaving and even govt hyped super secure Aadhar will not be accepted as proof of citizenship then wht will people show to prove their citizenship. We all know situation of official documentation in India with misspelled names and things. Even well to do people will struggle to prove their citizenship & then pls think abt poor and landless people who are struggling for their dailty bread and will be stuck in this endless red tape bureaucracy. After the NRC Hindus will be automatically in due to CAB and muslims will have to go detention centers.
"Understand the chronology first will be CAA & then NRC" - Home min
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@Arvan NRC is not even in the draft state. And remember, whenever it comes, it has to again pass through both houses of parliament. the rules, regulations, and exclusions and documents list is not yet totally ready. Instead of inciting these uneducated lots, why don't the educated lot take up the task of going to their local MP and tell him their requirements? Amit Shah publicly said so many times he's ready to talk to Shaheen Bagh protesters. Why didn't they go and talk?
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@Cosby
Police in India is an organized gang that is only focussed on enriching themselves. It is corrupt, incompetent and rotten to the core. No Dalit, low caste, minority or women have ever received anything resembling justice. On the contrary, they have been abused and in some cases tortured.
Example: Recently, students of a prestigious university were brutally attacked by Hindutva goons for protesting against CAA and NRC. Where might police be? Police was found beating students too and destroying cameras and public property. Which they later blamed it on students. Thanks to the camera footage, truth came out. All a person has to do is google "Indian Police" and 95%+ of the published material on them is negative. State of Indian police is so horrible that average Indian has no trust or faith in them.
As for CAA and NRC, both are discriminatory and unconstitutional and that is why Indians are protesting. They are rightly worried about their country and direction it is going in. International agencies and human rights groups are also deeply concerned about these two laws and have requested Indian government to withdraw these as soon as possible.
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The Indian government would be well advised to disclose the actual casualties in the riots along with names. The government of Modi has become absolutely brazen as they have even transferred the judge who tried to hold a small timer of BJP, some Mishra fellow to account. The message is that howsoever low be your acts, as long as you are with Modi, you are above every law and every judge. Modi has led to increase of Islamic extremism and Brahminical fascism, the two forces ruining Hindu and Muslim societies. Islamic radicals and priests have always ridiculed Hindu practices and Brahmins have distorted Hindu culture. Indian society will be blessed to be rid of both.
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@MS Please note that the referenced Judge's transfer papers were processed weeks before the riots. Such impulsive, baseless implications cause more damage than good. Your allegations about Modi followers is baseless and no true.
The people protesting in Shaheen Bagh including Women & Children are not supporters of Modi and yet have the freedom to protest. They have gone to the extent of blocking a road and inconveniencing many school going children and logistics of the common man living in the vicinity. The Brahmins that you are eluding virtually do not exist. You are correct in the Islamic Clergy who regularly make threats and many cases their followers act on such threats.
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Below is a quote from Swami Vivekananda's speech in Chicago in 1893 that should be guiding policies of the ruling party BJP:
“I am proud to belong to a religion which has taught the world both tolerance and universal acceptance. We believe not only in universal toleration, but we accept all religions as true. I am proud to belong to a nation which has sheltered the persecuted and the refugees of all religions and all nations of the earth.
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@A van Dorbeck
That was in 1893 when less than 0.1% of the population participated in anything or was aware of anything. Stretching that to 2020 with so much technology, information, and thereby impatience is---
Even Gandhi was left wondering what can I do, and that was 50 years after.
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@A van Dorbeck :
The anti-CAA protest that blocked the main road in Shaheen Bagh , Delhi was treated by the government with tolerance and care for more than sixty days. Currently the Supreme Court appointed mediator is talking with them. Is this not tolerance?
Can you imagine if a group of protesters block a main road in Washington DC. Police would baton charge them and disperse them in 15 minutes.
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@Chhetri
First, them are Indians and it is the responsibility of democratic government to be kind and understanding. They are not doing any favors.
Second, Indians are not happy with the performance of Modi, BJP and RSS. That is why they are protesting CAA and NRC in masses. In general, Indians protest by blocking roads. Mahatma Gandhi also blocked roads and so did other freedom fighters. These protesters are inspired by the father of the nation and are engaging in democratic right to protest in public. Yes, it might be inconvenient but it is a small cost compared to horrendous effects of implementing discriminatory and unconstitutional laws.
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Will India go on; yes. Will US go on; yes. In India people worry about Gun Violence in US, and ignore Mob Violence in India. In US, it is mostly the other way around. Each Government thinks, things are under control, while people on the other side know otherwise. Rumi would have written a great poem!
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Causes are real, but crowds are settling scores as people have become impatient. Elections and the ability to reverse results requires good and smart leadership. Unfortunately, minority communities are not seeing the value of coalitions and strength in the ballot box. On paper, the Congress party should win most elections if all the special interest groups work together. But then on paper, the Democrats in the US should be able to win all the elections iff only---
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Timing of riots is everything for it gets the most mileage, especially with the international media readily available and looking for trouble. Is this related to CAA? Don't think so; poor neighborhoods hardly have time to worry about immigrant causes. But there was a festering issue that the current Government was getting away with many rulings from the court and parliament. All it required was a match. This is ruling by the mob, and is unfortunately a part of modern Democracy, whether it is US or India.
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Reminds me of the Partition in 1947. Why repeat it after all these years?
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@SK : When I am hungry, everything reminds me of food. The smell or shapes of things remind me of delicious food frequently.
Those with Talibani and Wahabi tendency will remember partition immediately. Delhi is polluted, partition was better. Delhi's traffic is bad, should have moved out during partition.
Take off the concept of Ghazwa-e-Hind from your mind and heart, you will see India as your own and never dream of the partition.
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Can we expect the usual slew of comments from people of Indian descent but living in North America that there is nothing to see here, that there was violence on both sides, and that foreigners just don’t understand that the Citizenship Act is really very reasonable and fair? As someone born in India, I deplore what the Modi government has done to the country, and I’m disgusted that his supporters cheer him on, including from the safety of homes in the West.
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@garibaldi : Please allow me to explain:
Canada accepts refugees from Syria who are religious or ethnic minorities such as Christians, Ismailis and Kurds but NOT Sunni or Shia Muslims. As you are from Vancouver, you must be aware of this. This is fully justified and morally upright.
CAA does exactly the same thing and gives protection to the persecuted minorities i.e. Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Parsis from Pakistan and Bangladesh. CAA does not cover Muslims.
That is why CAA is not only a law but also morally justified.
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@Chhetri You are wrong. Under the previous government of Stephen Harper (a right-winger like your Modi), Canada prioritized refugees from Syria who were from persecuted minorities, and this was interpreted as mainly non-Muslims. However, for the past several years, under the Liberal government, we have had many, many Muslim refugees from Syria. Besides, even if other countries are discriminatory Trump’s ban on people from Muslim countries comes to mind), does that make India’s new law OK?
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@Chhetri
CAA is constitutionally unsound because it discriminates on basis of religion.
Canada accepted refugees who were being systematically slaughtered by ISIS et all.
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Common fare in India- Riots and killing of the minorities by the Hindu mob while law enforcement stands idly by. These law personnel only protect the Hindus if they are in danger; and at times even aiding and abetting the Hindu mobs to kill and destroy the property of the minorities, whether it be the Riots in Bihar in 1966, or the anti-Sikh Riots in Delhi, or killing of Muslims in Gujerat under Modi's leadership.
These are not riots, these are systematic purges by the Hindu led governments during different eras whether it be Congress as in the case of Gandhis (look at Sonia Gandhi she is the head of Congress party and was directly instrumental in the Sikh riots ) or now as in the case of Modi. These politicians are untouchables (ouch!).
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@Surdy :
This morning I read the names of the people who were killed in the riots and most of them are Hindus.
So please do not spread lies. A Muslim politician is charged for murder.
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Yeah. Current list of identified dead bodies shows out of 34, more than 20 are hindus. let us wait for the whole list to come out and everybody can see the truth. Your whole premise is wrong.
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@Surdy purges indeed! that is why during partition in 1947, muslims were 8% and Hindus were 85%. Today, Muslims in India are 18%, Hindus are 78%. Who purged whom? Statistics speaks.
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