Young, Conservative and Working for Trump? The Dating Pool Is Small

Feb 17, 2020 · 41 comments
Ben Adolph (Silver Spring MD)
Being at Trump International would that violate the Emolument clause or an Annulment Clause
Lynn (Boston)
You have to be a true trump ‘believer’ to tie yourself to such an odious person as S. Miller. She is homeland security, guess she didn’t mind separating children from their parents. Haters gonna hate, but wrong is wrong. Locking up children, or sending families back to places they are trying to escape....wrong.
Mortiser (MA)
Gosh, if political clash couples disappear, who will be the next Carville and Matalin? Or Joe and Mika? America needs to know. The temperature scale for these pairings ranges from mild (John Kerry and Teresa Heinz) to volcanic (George and Kellyanne).
SPQR (Maine)
I've always treasured my years in academia, in part because so much of the hard work of finding someone with the same political and social beliefs is almost assured. Stay clear of the Business School denizens, and nearly every potential mate hates Trump as much or more than you do.
erwan (LA)
Maybe the NYT can call someone who separates children from their parents, puts them in cages and lets them die "Young and conservative". But they can't also expect to have me as their customer. Thanks but no thanks, I have just cancelled my subscription.
Parker (NY)
Oh...I suspect once America regains its sanity, it’s going to get a whole lot harder for them. The professional right wing will try to regroup and disavow Trumpism, and those who saw it clearly from the start won’t soon overlook what their participation. The stain of this administration is real, and it will follow them forever.
Beartooth (Jacksonville, FL)
Katie Waldman first showed her credentials to be a Trumpist ideologue in college at the University of Florida when she was caught in a scandal throwing out hundreds of copies of the school newspaper that had endorsed an opponent candidate for student government. A censoring book burner at heart. Perfect match for Stephen Miller, whose own family denounce his fascist immigration policies, pointing out that the family would never have escaped Hitler & found sanctuary in the US under Miller's immigration policies.
Ben Adolph (Silver Spring MD)
I wonder if Mr Miller’s family even attended, they seem to be smart people. I have observed cartel kings and serial killers get more public support from relatives than him
Beartooth (Jacksonville, FL)
What is this weird trend toward Jewish neo-Nazis like Miller, Kushner, & Netanyahu? Don't they realize that the neo-Nazi white supremacists don't even consider us Jews to be white?
james haynes (blue lake california)
In my youth, I found an office-mate to be highly desirable and she returned the attention. But when she mentioned that she supported Nixon, I lost interest immediately. If a couple doesn't share a basic outlook on life, possibly not withstanding Kelly Anne and her husband, they won't last long. But when it comes to general physical attractiveness, the Trump administration functionaries are lucky to have each other.
Mary (New Jersey)
@james haynes True love is a rocky road these days for Kelly Anne and George https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/politics/george-and-kellyanne-conway.html Guess that leaves Carville and Matalin to carry the torch for political opposites.
Mark (New Jersey)
Thirty Five years ago (when I was dating), the thought of political differences impacting whom I date would never have crossed my mind. But there's a dynamic at play today that has never existed in my lifetime. There's an alternate reality of of truth that exists in the Republosphere that is difficult for a sane person to accept. The reason Trump supporters and Democrats cannot carry on an intelligent conversation is because there is no common set of facts to use as a baseline. If you believe the 20 woman that have accused Trump of sexual assault then it becomes far more difficult to justify your point of view. So, you pretend that the 20 woman don't exist (or are all lying) and therefore in your mind you've not taken up a position devoid of ethics. There are tens or even hundreds of issues exactly like this. Certainly beyond the scope of these comments. So, how can you date or spend time with a person that has bought in to a cult like propaganda machine that is quite often mean and vindictive and dishonest. Truth is important in a relationship and intelligence helps a bit too. One thing is for certain. In every political mixed relationship,, only one side is supporting the truth and the other side is either too mean or too gullible to get it. Both cannot be right.
ROK (MPLS)
Once upon a time dating or marrying someone who had different political beliefs meant that you and your significant other might differ over tax policy or something similar. That I could get over. Caging children? Fine people on both sides? Racism? Hard pass. Some people have standards, and those standards include not dating fascists.
Will (Wellesley MA)
It's just how nature works. DC residents who work for the Trump administration jut aren't attractive mates, like Peacocks with depressingly bland plumages.
vickie (San Francisco/ Columbus)
Did Stephen and Katie get the Secret Service discount?
Robert Triptow (Pahoa, Hawaii)
Nobody wants to date and mate with Trump aides? Darwin was right -- it's the law of natural selection at work.
A F (Connecticut)
I've dated men on both extremes of the political divide. Both prioritize ideology over actual people, which is anathema to my values as a woman who prioritizes actual humans over ideas. And both sides, in their pursuit of ideological purity, subtly embrace misogyny. In my experience, right wing men are actually slightly less misogynist; at least they pay on dates, will wait sexually if told to, and respect women as women and value things like a women's desire for marriage and motherhood. Their respect is limited to traditional ideas of femininity, but it at least is there. And they tend to be more open to engaging in calm debate and treating a woman's differing opinions with respect, and even pride themselves on this. Progressive men in my experience use "feminism" and "equality" as an escape hatch from any romantic behavior, but without any corresponding increase in respect, and are less likely to want to get married. They can be very rude and aggressive when a woman's differing opinions, needs for humanity, and desire for family get in the way of The Revolution or their own need to be a social justice savior or get their sexual needs met. They think their abstract "progressiveness" insulates their concrete bro like behavior from criticism. It doesn't. The man I married is a moderate like me. We sometimes agree, sometimes not. But we share a value for family, hard work, children, and faithfulness, which is what really counts. And he always paid on dates.
Betty (St. Paul, Minnesota)
@A F Why is it so important that your husband always paid on your dates? It appears that what you are looking for is a provider, not a partner.
Yusuf (Sacramento)
@A F “Progressive men in my experience use "feminism" and "equality" as an escape hatch from any romantic behavior” Like paying for your dinner? I don’t think you understand what feminism means. Men always paying for dinner isn’t equality...
CincyBroad (Cincinnati)
@A F Wow. That...is a lot to unpack.
Kurt (Madison)
Yes, Trump has redefined romance and morality.
Chris (Chicago)
@Kurt Morality has not been redefined.
Laurel Hedges (Oregon)
The reason for the Trump/no Trump division in the dating pool is not about politics, it is not about Republican vs. Democrat. Now it is about the values a person holds dear. If you hold the traditional America values esteeming fairness, honesty, integrity, courage, moral decency, respect for others and respect for good character, rule of law, then it is impossible to find a suitable partner among the people supporting Trump. If you can't get on the same page about believing/repeating lies 24/7, where can you go from there? Home.
pork (portland)
There's a special soneone for everyone out there. We don't need to fan partisan divides.
Suppan (San Diego)
@pork Maybe it was a Freudian slip, but special "soneone" indeed. BTW, when Trump says someone is a special person, it means they are someone whom he has screwed, either financially or sexually, without adverse consequences. For example, Justin Kennedy (Justice Anthony Kenney's son and Deutschebanker) and Stormy Daniels, were both described as "special", in addition to Karen McDougal, etc...
Andrew (Los Angeles)
Who would have thought that being an enabler of not only unconstitutional, misogynistic and racist policies and actions but also some truly abhorrent practices would limit one's dating pool?
JAF (Morganton Ga)
It’s not a question of republican vs Democrat, it’s between those that realize DJT is a morally bankrupt human, corrupt president and those who are not paying attention
Rita Prangle (Mishawaka, IN)
@JAF Or worse, do see it and don't mind.
marks (millburn)
Wait - you're saying it's hard to find a romantic match when you're a person who enjoys locking up children in cages, are fine with poisoning our air and water, and willingly work for a man who loves dictators and brags about assaulting women? Gee, I wonder why....
Jim Tagley (Naples, FL)
Was on a blind date, I'm mid 60's, she's 73, and the woman asked how I feel about Trump. I despise Trump but simply responded that I'm a republican. She said she loves Trump. 2nd date at my home I cooked for her and while eating she began peppering me with political questions. Having already realized when she arrived at my house for this datethat she wasn't for me, I decided this would be a great time to end our relationship so I answered honestly that I think Trump is a criminal and belongs in prison. She was aghast, then asked about my feelings for Guiliani. I responded that he belongs in prison with Trump.
Leslie Fox (Sacramento, California)
@Jim Tagley amen!
ChuckyBrown (Brooklyn, Ny)
@Jim Tagley You go, Jim!!
Rita Prangle (Mishawaka, IN)
@Jim Tagley Why are you a Republican, Jim?
Gabel (NY)
Let’s call it what it is. Bubble Love.
polymath (British Columbia)
"Invited friends who might bring unruly partisans as their guests to the wedding were screened." It doesn't take a partisan, just a decent person, to get unruly in the face of how the U.S. government is treating aspiring immigrants at its southern border.
K (London)
Agree with their politics or not, there is a stark divide between conservatives and liberals - with many liberals stating they would not date or maintain a friendship with someone who is conservative and vice versa. It is unsurprising that those who are conservative and viewed so harshly within popular culture/liberal circles end up dating those of similar values/political beliefs. The Trump administration is a bubble of reaffirmation and self validation and I would struggle to see one of the aides marry a liberal and allow for their views to be questioned or challenged on a daily basis.
Pete (Bethesda)
There are many, many republicans in DC. That the Trump staffers have difficulty finding people to date outside of the White House suggests an even simpler explanation is at work here. National tribalism is real, but so, apparently, is a general distaste for people who have elected to work directly for the president.
Jerseytime (Montclair, NJ)
@Pete The question is the same as in France, 1941: "Would you date someone who worked for Vichy?"
K. Anderson (Portland)
We’re literally at war for the future of our democracy. The stakes couldn’t be higher. I can’t imagine why anyone wouldn’t filter out potential partners based on their political beliefs.
Heather Chen (Michigan)
I feel like the reality is that your politics reflect your morals. They are two inseparable things, which is why they need to be discussed in a relationship. Your stances on issues like immigration or healthcare are directly linked to what kind of a person you are, and how you treat others. Many Millenials and Gen Z recognize this, which is why politics can be such a dealbreaker.
Jerseytime (Montclair, NJ)
@Heather Chen I've always found it interesting (odd?) that the MSM holds up bipartisan power couples like Matalin and Carville as "proof" that people can marry those from the other side of the political spectrum. Of course, they always miss the fact that in most cases, the couple are professional political operatives, who are more concerned with the "horse race" than ideology. And, they hone to the center, not the opinions of both parties' bases.