What’s Next for Elizabeth Warren? ‘My Job Is to Persist.’

She said she did not want to “burn down the rest of the party” in order to triumph. And then she lost in New Hampshire.

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  1. Don’t count out Elizabeth Warren just yet. She’s third in delegates (albeit a distant third, but it’s early) and has an anti-corruption message that resonates with Americans of all political persuasion. Especially now. And as the New York Times Editorial Board noted, she understands how government works. I understand the attraction of those candidates promising to not shake things up too much and the pie-in-the-sky appeal of their promises to work with Republicans. But if we don’t tackle corruption as a nation first, there’s no guarantee that any of that will get done. There’s a reason we have a president like Trump – and, as importantly, a reason he can get away with what he is getting away with now. Corruption runs deep in this country, and it needs to be addressed. Warren has a plan for that. And more.

  2. @avrds The NYT editorial board endorsed two women both of whom will fail to get the nomination. They will not endorse the one person who will win the nomination, defeat Trump and save our party from a hostile left wing takeover. And, no, I don't mean Biden who is presently on life support in South Carolina. Mike Bloomberg to the rescue.

  3. @Simon Sez "Hostile left wing takeover?" I hope you meant "return to New Deal era Democratic politics and alignment with the rest of the world's contemporary democracies behind a Nordic Model for social programs".

  4. @Simon Sez I'm thinking it should be Bloomberg/klobuchar. Decent person with east coast connections and resources combined with Midwest intelligence, common sense and electoral college advantage.

  5. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. There is a double standard for female candidates.  All of the women who have run for president this cycle have been punished for "going too far", "playing the gender card", "playing the victim card" etc.  Warren got creamed for claiming that Bernie didn't think women could get elected to the highest office in the land.  So now Warren is being called out for NOT criticizing her primary opponents?  Yeesh.

  6. @Cousy A legitimate criticism is "your plan won't work, you've never accomplished anything, you previously supported things that turned out to be big mistakes, you don't have the experience, you're in the pocket of big donors" etc. Attacking somebody for something they allegedly said in a private conversation (which they deny) which was a perfectly harmless thing to say in the first place (it remains an open question as to whether or not a woman CAN be elected president right now) is just complete sleaze.

  7. @Cousy Amy beat her soundly. Get used to it.

  8. @JerseyGirl did she attack him for saying it? My recollection was that this was leaked to the press, and she was point blank asked the question in a debate about whether he had said it. I don't think Bernie supporters would have been any more satisfied if she had just said " I don't want to comment about a private conversation". I think people were just looking for something and they found it.

  9. Elizabeth Warren's downhill slide immediately followed her attack on Bernie Sanders--for, allegedly, privately admitting he didn't think America would elect a woman. She is losing because she went negative, not the reverse.

  10. @MA Dead-on. I didn’t believe the Sanders quote happened the way she portrayed it. And Warren’s on-stage “confrontation” of Sanders, well aware she was still on-mike, was just a bit too calculated. She’s losing because she went Mean Girl, not because she’s too saintly.

  11. @MA Her medicare for all plan being widely panned didn't help either. The walkback of it hurt her among both progressives and moderates.

  12. @MA She didn't go negative. He did.

  13. I'm so frustrated by Warren losing momentum. She has the skills to speak and connect like no one else on the debate stage, and I believe she'd do the best job of goading Trump into doing something that looks weak in a debate. I will be content to vote for Sanders, but I hope this slide doesn't continue.

  14. @sedanchair she didn’t connect with me. “I have a plan.” No idea what all these “ plans” will cost.

  15. @greatnfi Less than not having a plan.

  16. @Mark Be ware of those who have a “Plan” for every problem .

  17. Elizabeth Warren will make a great president. I'm looking forward to voting for her.

  18. @Jill I plan to vote for Bernie in the primary as he has more support among non-white voters (I am white myself, but I want to beat Trump more than anything else). That said I will vote for/work for/donate to whomever our eventual nominee is. When the nomination is over we put on our big boy/girl pants and Vote Blue No Matter Who!

  19. People are seeing through her constant pandering and obvious manipulation. The beer in the kitchen was the beginning of the end. It's a travesty. Sanders won't win.

  20. @James Plus she doesn't know what "Netflix and chill" means. I still cringe.

  21. @James That's a plus in my book. She's a grownup.

  22. Apparently the professor didn’t know politics is a winner takes all endeavor.

  23. @Shamrock Apparently you don't know primaries are not a winner take all endeavor.

  24. I have really been inspired by Elizabeth Warren and am very discouraged right now. Bernie Sanders is several steps too far for me, but I find both Klobuchar and Buttigieg to be unimaginative in their approach to big issues such as income inequality and climate change. I will probably switch to Klobuchar, if necessary, for her sheer enthusiasm. She is an intelligent person who speaks clearly to voters and, like Elizabeth Warren and so many other Americans I know, is thoughtful and persistent.

  25. @NancyLA Don't get discouraged. It's early yet, and in California you have an opportunity to vote your first choice, not your second. As another comment here says, Warren will make a great president. She'll have our back when we need it; let's have hers now.

  26. @NancyLA I don't think Klobuchar is going to outlast Warren in this race. Hopefully, you won't switch if Warren is still on the ballot.

  27. @NancyLA Don’t switch — Warren has plenty of time to win this race! Keep in mind that 98 percent of the delegates haven’t been awarded yet, and the Iowa and NH are not very representative of the country as a whole.

  28. Her statements always sound presidential. Her thinking is always lucid and humane. Her delivery is always direct. She is the single candidate about whom I have not a single doubt. She should be our nominee.

  29. she gets more shrill and lecturing every time I hear her. that combined with her occasional phony appeal and quivering voice are the reasons why she is slipping. she often seems desperate. She will not be the nominee. Her time to run was 2016. maybe she’ll learn and get another run in 2024.

  30. @teach What is humane about seizing people's wealth and private property? We should be lifting people up, not waging a scapegoat war on the "rich".

  31. @Ronan is coming for you There are more people in the US than just Iowa and New Hampshire.

  32. Not long ago it looked like Warren had this wrapped up. On reflection, it does seem her campaign had a real tight-wire to walk, trying to pull voters from the moderates (who would prefer the more moderate Pete, Joe, or Amy) and pull voters from Bernie (and if there is one thing we know about Bernie supporters, they are bombproof in their loyalty). Warren is still my vote but it is looking like a much harder race to win.

  33. I hate it that tiny little states like Iowa and New Hamshire get to decide the narrative for the next period of time after their primaries/caucuses. The democratic party's so called "democratic" nominating process is a complete and utter farce, and the NYTs and other media outlets are playing right along by publishing articles like this with title such as "Elizabeth Warren Rejected". Let the country decide on the nominee, not two tiny little and insignificant states. Why should a tiny minority of the population decide that, by the time I get to vote in my primary, Warren (or whoever else) might have dropped out. It is just stupid. The democratic party is no better than the republicans in this regard, and by the time the remaining candidates get to the nomination process in the later states, people are dispirited in a way that lingers until November thereby leading to reduced voter turnout, and thereby leading to election losses. Lets fix this!

  34. @Jon well said. a couple of thousand whitebread country people determining the party candidate seems a bit ridiculous. sort of like the electoral college and the senate... set up to over represent places like that at the expense of the vast majority of the population. the first primary should be in someplace that matters, like Texas, California, New York or Florida. someplace that contributes the bulk of tax dollars to the federal government. Maybe to be fair to those low population rural states, we could alternate.

  35. @Jon Tiny little, highly unrepresentative states. A complete insult to democracy. This must be the last time.

  36. @Jon Don't worry. History shows they are not very influential. Bill Clinton lost both. Plenty of winners never became the nominee.

  37. She’s smart enough to do great things for this country but perhaps falls short in navigating these primaries, unfortunately. It’ll be our loss if she bows out, but our country has been making bad choices for years now - losing her will be very regrettable but no big surprise. It’s less and less likely that our country will ever credibly reach towards the hopes we had for it.

  38. @Average Joe she, and Sanders, can remain in the senate where they belong...

  39. Au contraire, she didn't resist calls to attack her opponents. She attacked Bernie Sanders all right in Iowa while pretending not to attack and take the high road. Act Blue immediately got calls from her followers asking for their money back. Meanwhile the media was busy taking her side, skewering Bernie (particularly see CNN's moderator) - but that was when her numbers started tanking. I read plenty of comments from Warren people after that saying "good bye" to her.

  40. @Miriam She also went after Mayor Pete with that "Wine Cave" nonsense, and made herself look petty for no gain.

  41. @Miriam Those people were never Warren people. They were just Bernie supporters who had drifted to Warren and then fell back. I don't know of any supporters other than Bernie supporters who shoot darts at any other candidates who criticize their saintly man. And who asks ActBlue for their money back? Was there some kind of guarantee when you donated to a campaign?

  42. Warren's strength has never been in those early states. If you look at the maps of her voters, they have NEVER been located there. Iowa and NH are older. NH is affluent. Both are overwhelmingly WHITE. Let's see how she does in Nevada, South Carolina, and Super Tuesday. The only thing New Hampshire did was solidify my vote. I was undecided before yesterday. Today, I know how I'm voting. In Virginia's Super Tuesday Primary, I am voting for Elizabeth Warren.

  43. @Dejah ...NH is affluent?...anyway, quite a miserable showing from someone from our neighboring state...

  44. @Dejah She has a natural base in Nevada with its relatively high Native American population.

  45. @Dejah I haven’t decided between Warren and Klobuchar, but I’d be happy with either, neighbor.

  46. Omg we’ve only had two small states so far. I will likely vote for Warren. I like her substance and her style. Sick of this horse-race coverage from the media.

  47. Warren: I'm all in for Medicare for all Oh wait, Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar are saying Medicare is optional? Warren: You can keep your insurance plan, I am dropping Medicare for all. Fickle politicians do not get my support.

  48. @GP and if that were remotely accurate, you’d have a point Mostly it was Sanders: Let’s have Medicare 4 All, as a slogan, but not think about what the transition looks like. Warren: gee, it’s not realistic to think we can wave a magic wand and do this overnight, so let’s think about how we pause this in, because I am adult who thinks about how things actually work because I actually get things done rather than just giving speeches about it Of course, people seem to like completely unrealistic slogans over sober analysis, it seems

  49. @GP I think reasonable compromise or accomodation to others' viewpoints are the descriptors you're looking for.

  50. @Doug K Israel was the last modern nation to adopt National Health Care. That policy was enacted in 1995. (25 years ago). With that enactment, only the USA remained as a high level nation to not have national health care. Please do not tell me National Health Care is undoable. The framework is readily adaptable.

  51. Warren has the strongest platform, the strongest mind, and the most deeply optimistic message out there. I'm excited to cast my vote for her on Super Tuesday.

  52. She absolutely did not reject negative politics. She is losing precisely because she embraced it in her personal betrayal of a private conversation with Bernie Sanders and she is paying the price because people expected someone of her calibre to know better.

  53. @Campbell Watson Sorry, but this butthurt from Bernie supporters about Warren's "betrayal" is just ridiculous. Did it ever occur to any of you that Bernie might have said what he said, it got leaked by people who were frustrated that Elizabeth refused to even mention it, and once that happened, she just had to deal with it, and she just couldn't bring herself to lie and pretend it never happened? I see this as yet another example of "the woman is lying/at fault/being conniving", but the guy is "obviously telling the truth". I have absolutely no doubt that Bernie said this because it's something a lot of people were wondering and thinking: America's too sexist to elect a woman, and his response to the outing of his comments and the response from all the supporters who have shunned Warren afterwards just doubles down on the notion that Americans are generally misogynistic.

  54. @Campbell Watson which sounds like one of the key plans in Sanders’ smear campaign.

  55. @AW This is exactly what I consider to be mostly likely to have happened

  56. I have already casted my vote for Warren, in the California primary, on my mail-in ballot. She is not a life-long politician like Bernie, Joe, Amy and even Pete. Warren is an academician, she studies the facts, she analyzes the data, she proposes solutions, and she is genuinely concerned with income inequality and our current tax policy and economy structure that favor the rich. She is a reformer, not a revolutionist. Her heart is in the right place and she has a brain for solving problems. Career politicians are winning the first two States in the nomination fight. Trump beat a career politician in 2016. The Dems are flocking to career politicians again, not smart.

  57. @Jackson You want a plan for reducing the debt? How about rolling back Trump's tax cuts for the very rich, closing the gaping loopholes in corporate taxes that enable major corporations to avoid paying taxes, taxing capital gains at the same rate as ordinary income, and instituting a wealth tax for billionaires? Oh, and maybe we don't need to increase the defense budget yet again.

  58. @Jean Kolodner Sounds like she's the perfect cabinet member and advisor. She is a technocrat. That's a good thing. Presidents desperately need the best and brightest. She isn't a leader. She is up against other that have the "it" factor. "It" being different for everyone of course. By the by...have you seen this years Morning Consultant Senator Ratings? Take a peak at Senator Warren. https://morningconsult.com/senator-rankings/

  59. @Jackson It's pretty well spelled out on her web site, if you care enough to look.

  60. Senator Warren is the perfect symbol for the new Left: they never understood this is not about being right, this is about winning power.

  61. Actually Ms. Warren, the voters are just not that into you. Sorry, but the voters can only vote for one candidate.

  62. @Shamrock And there is the rub. Imagine if there were three or four candidates on the ticket from all areas. Especially in the Senate and House. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Progressive, Independent et al, all in our legislative bodies being required to work together to achieve a majority of votes. It would be more equitable for everyone. Policy and legislation would have to be based on compromise.

  63. I like Warren’s politics in the whole, and donated multiple times to her campaign. She has done a terrific job of pressing the case against the overprotection of Wall Street financiers and bankers while the ordinary person was hung out to dry. But her uncritical stance on the problems of massive illegal immigration to me suggests she lost touch with the ordinary, law abiding US citizen. In sum, if Warren has stuck to economic populism rather than adopting the lefts agenda, she would have had broader appeal, in my view. Sadly, her campaign is clearly spiraling downward in rapid fashion ....

  64. To me Elizabeth Warren does not seek the presidency because "she alone" can fix it. I think the other candidates do (including Trump). She's been fighting for decades for everyone who is exploited by all kinds of systems. She did it as a lawyer, as an educator, as a committee chair with no power except to write reports each month. Then as a senator. The presidency is another powerful way to fight for those who lack a voice, but it's not the only way to make change. When this whole election is over, even if she loses, Warren will still be fighting for the ideas she stands for now.

  65. @Jackson She created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau--that's an accomplishment that exceeds the lifetime accomplishments of most Senators.

  66. I like Elizabeth Warren and was disappointed to see that she did poorly in New Hampshire. That said, I think this article misses the point entirely. She BEGAN taking potshots at Sanders and other candidates in the last few months and it backfired. It backfired because it was very off brand for her. She was doing well, leading the poll even, when she was acting above it all.

  67. @Kevin True. True. True. Warren's very specific proposals were her strength, and she moved away from that in December. Millions are yet to vote, I hope she gets back to her message.

  68. Headlines like this one don't help. Elizabeth Warren has been consistently positive. Constantly classy. An inspiration to young girls (and boys) everywhere. She has proven she is effective, she listens and yes, pivots if she needs to. That's a plus, not a demerit! We should want that in a candidate. I applaud her for supporting all the Democrats while also fighting to win. Why shouldn't she? She is the the candidate everyone says they are searching for. Get out of her way.

  69. @Myasara Sorry, a wishy washy candidate is a detriment.

  70. @Myasara I could not agree more. The editorial team endorsed Warren and Klobuchar and yet they are completely ignored when they clearly win a debate, or get this. Why does this article not pressure Biden to get out based on HIS pitiful Iowa and New Hampshire showing? Why only Warren?

  71. @Myasara she listens and yes, pivots if she needs to. That's a plus, not a demerit! Maybe in your world pivoting is a positive. Her pivot on Medicare for all took post unfavorable reviews after the initial debate, all of a few days. I personally would rather back a candidate who has convictions based on years of rumination.

  72. I like Warren. At the start of the campaign I supported her. Then she did a number of things that made me question whether she is a reliable progressive. But at this point, that's immaterial. She is clearly not going to be the nominee, and has no path forward in the primaries. If she stays in the race, she just makes it more likely we wind up with a centrist nominee like Buttigieg, which would be a terrible mistake. The 2,000 word memo from her campaign manager, Roger Lau, is effectively an argument for a brokered convention, which would be a disaster and would nearly guarantee Trump's reelection. If she really is a progressive and really wants to get rid of Trump, she needs to suspend her campaign ASAP.

  73. @Andy Dwyer Nonsense! 98% of the vote is yet to be cast... and she has "no path forward"?

  74. @Andy Dwyer And you want us to believe you weren't a Sanders operative from the beginning, right?

  75. @Andy Dwyer Cannot disagree more. A campaign is not over after Iowa and New Hampshire! And questioning whether Warren is a reliable progressive??? Oh, my!

  76. “The one thing you need to know about Elizabeth Warren is that you don’t get from Norman, Oklahoma, to where she is right now and take the journey she took without a steel spine and an indefatigability.” —DAVID AXELROD

  77. The way she presents herself is reprehensible to people who earn above average in this country. Clear cut language on how to provide well paying jobs for ordinary Americans is missing in her lingua.

  78. Warren's Cherokee fiction should have disqualified her long ago.

  79. She is trying to keep the party together in order to defeat Trump, and placing that goal ahead of her personal interests. How terrible! The Republicans gave us somehow who puts his personal interests first. How is that working out for the nation?

  80. The story of the college student that gave her $3 of her last $6 just shows you how this progressive is waaaaaaay out of touch. Instead Warren should’ve handed her a few bucks. I would’ve if I was there. Taking from those that don’t have is now a new low for progressives. CAN NOT WAIT TO VOTE FOR MIKE! :)

  81. We've made it through 1.86 percent of the elected delegates to the convention, and in two of the least representative states. Horserace opinion pieces are are pure Onanism at this point. Most people are just tuning into the race now. Why not put a useful piece about policies at the top of the virtual page?

  82. Warren walks the talk. My hope is that other voters will value that as much as I do. I deeply believe that our path back to democracy and good governance will come only through democratic actions, not a bunch of cheap rhetoric designed to artificially inflame conflicts so that people can make money off of it.

  83. Warren lost my vote when she refused to shake Bernie’s hand at the debate.

  84. @Carl Pugh Yet Trump gained a few million extra votes when he refused to shake a woman’s hand. Democrats, get into the real world.

  85. @Carl Pugh, she felt he'd called her a liar. Though why anyone would base their vote for president on this "feud" is beyond me.

  86. This is a nice eulogy for her 2020 campaign but the real reason why she is not doing well isn't because of her positioning, her strategy or the competition - It's because people disagree with her ideas. Since she was the NYT recommended candidate, it's hard for you all to accept this, but the results thus far should be seen as a confirmation that her ideas (and your's) have been rejected.

  87. @Kev – Who are you talking to?

  88. @Kev You're partly right but it doesn't explain why Sanders is doing well. So it is not just "people disagree with her ideas" since his ideas are largely similar. (I agree he was there first for some of it.) She should be doing at least as well as Sanders or splitting the vote with him. See Polly's comment below. Warren impressed me for being able to work through the cost of her plans frankly. That scared people off. She also seemed most in touch with the people when she started but the whole thing becomes a dog and pony show. It's crazy... no wonder DJT is POTUS.

  89. I don't think Warren is rejecting reality so much as we now live in a world of unreality.  What matters is not events and ideas; it's what people are saying about them, and what people are saying about those people on twitter, ad nauseam.  Reporting doesn't tell us what happened; it presents the opinions of a bunch of talking heads on "both sides" as equally plausible possibilities of what happened and then goes out and interviews a bunch of lay people with no expertise on the subject and presents their opinions and just as good as the experts', without qualification.   Warren is probably the candidate who is MOST in touch with reality.  She's the one who actually puts out numbers on how all these huge proposals could really be funded--and then gets lambasted for it, while people with no plans skate by on hype.  It's just that the "reality" is that reality doesn't matter anymore.  And the Times, and stories like these, are part of the problem.  Journalism isn't reporting that the Dems say it's raining and the Republicans say it isn't.  It's opening the window and looking outside.  And there's precious little of that these days.

  90. @Polly Plans are just that...plans. When they go into the sausage making anything and everything gets changed. It's the ideas and the bones of the cause that carry it to fruition. Those things you call hype. THAT is reality. The best quarterbacks have a plan, but it is the free association that must be done when those plans are changed; which is on every play. The bones of the "plan" still exist, it is the minutia, the externalities, the bargains and negotiations that take place that change the "plan". The goal is what is important. There are many ways to get there. Thus you had Sanders and others, including Warren, put forth how to's and pay-fors. There were and are lots of ways to pay for M4A. But as Sanders was saying, NOBODY knows how much it will cost or turn out like, after the sausage is made. But the overriding goal, Universal Coverage at an affordable price is still the end game. That Hype. THAT is reality in our politics/government.

  91. @Polly "I don't think Warren is rejecting reality so much as we now live in a world of unreality. What matters is not events and ideas; it's what people are saying about them, and what people are saying about those people on twitter, ad nauseam." Polly, so well said.

  92. @Dobbys sock As we scientists like to tell people: no model is correct, but many are useful. She put numbers to a problem. It won't be absolutely correct, but it's a starting point. She knows that. Anybody who forms an entire government agency, the CFPB, is not a moron. Not putting any estimates out is like a quarterback saying, hey, no plan, no play, I'm just gonna go out there and wing it everybody, but hey, you know I want a touchdown, right?! Both Warren and Sanders understand their budgets are estimates. Sorry if Elizabeth Warren doesn't 'hype' the uncertainties to your satisfaction.

  93. "'I am turning away from the idea of seeing each other as if I win, you lose. You know, if you win, I lose.” The next day, they won. She lost." What's your point? That if she'd attacked Sanders &c she'd have done better? If so, you need to provide evidence for it.

  94. I’m so frustrated to see legitimate analysis like this buried in the middle of pieces on Elizabeth Warren: “Mr. Sanders and Mr. Buttigieg outpaced the fractured field with historically low totals in Iowa and New Hampshire, and Mr. Biden’s campaign is on the ropes. Ms. Warren has more delegates than Ms. Klobuchar or Mr. Biden, she polls higher among nonwhite voters than some rivals, and she maintains an enthusiastic base of supporters and high-profile surrogates.” And yet, in the NYT and other media outlets, her campaign is framed as being in a state of collapse. That is far from the truth, and underscores the ways the media is searching for dramatic twists in the race and playing up centrist concerns about electability. This is a feature of the coverage of Sanders as well, but it’s been extremely pronounced in the coverage of Warren’s campaign; I think irresponsibly so.

  95. Rationalize all you want, she lost. Get over with it and face reality. Polls and enthusiast supporters don’t count, The ballot box counts. Maybe,just maybe people prefer someone else.

  96. @Shari Yes -- every word. Thank you!

  97. @Shari Yes -- every word. Thank you!

  98. It is early. We have a leviathan snorting for more devastation. Let us recall our true power—dignity—and focus on what can empower ALL people, not on what cuts us into fearful, cowering factions. People, we are so much better than this. Please, let us cast our eyes and hearts toward a true leader, a visionary who can guide us to live into our better selves. Only then will the smoke and mirrors and fear that fogs begin to clear.

  99. As the field of candidates dwindles, I see a clear path for President Trump to gain his second term.

  100. Elizabeth Warren is in this for the long haul. She doesn't play the kind of petty horse-race politics that journalists love to foster; while reporters are trying to extinguish her campaign because she's in third with 2% of the primary votes cast, she's unflappably talking about big ideas and bounding to the next town hall. The steady, strategic optimism with which she connects with voters on a grassroots level reminds me of Obama in 2008. She will make a fantastic President.

  101. @Stephanie Lee Jackson Long haul?! Seriously? She's gone by super Tuesday.

  102. @GMooG I'll still vote for her in CA.

  103. Warren is great, a straight shooter, an intellect but her downfall started when she went up to Sanders to tell him that he accused her of lying on live television. Little did she know that the television cameras were still rolling and that women are held to higher standards than men. Every little word, every little gesture, every little slip at interviews can cost women a great deal while men can resort to name-calling and mocking fellow lawmakers, purple heart veterans and still win.

  104. @ALN -- Warren is brilliant and capable, but lacks political skill-- demonstrated by her behavior with Sanders and her clumsiness in dealing with problems. Klobuchar has better skills and more charisma, and is held to the same standard.

  105. I find it odd that Elizabeth Warren postures herself as the unity candidate. I’ve always liked what she stands for, but I vividly recall her attacking fellow candidates during the debates (Buttigieg and Sanders immediately come to mind). I found her attack tactics to be very off-putting, and not at all in line with someone who purports to stand for unity.

  106. @sunbeam she didn’t attack she disagreed. It can look different coming from a woman.

  107. @sunbeam I recall several candidates, particularly Mayor Pete, challenging Elizabeth in the earliest debates when she was still considered the front runner (she and Joe Biden withstood the most attacks, her on her proposals and he on his record) in the first few debates. Not sure what "attack tactics" you are referring to, unless defending your position and challenging your opponents are considered such when they come from her but not when they come from others.

  108. @sunbeam - Meanwhile, Bernie supporters are booing Klobuchar and Buttigieg IN FRONT OF HIM and he's not stopping it. Funny that it's the woman who doesn't stand for unity, though.

  109. Senator Warren is right to reject the primaries as being for her gain, rather than the party’s. Let’s face it, out of the many contenders we have seen, only one will emerge victorious. And if we want to have a responsible leader, we will have to rally around the ultimate nominee. Ms. Warren is on target.

  110. It seems that Sanders and Warren will continue to split votes. This could lead to a split/open convention, which could be a disaster or a godsend. What has bothered me all along is how much the pundits try to analyze the race as if it were only a war of personalities and strategies. It is also a question of divided loyalties. Every candidate who drops out frees up voters to reconsider the choices. And don't read in so much importance to these changes in preferences because we are all interested in getting the trumpster out of office (preferably to jail). Unfortunately, Liz is started to look less "electable" but this could still change. Biden, however, needs to get out of the way. I

  111. I don't put much stock in these early primaries, and after watching all the candidates over the past year, reading their policies, listening to their debate performances, and analyzing their chances against Trump, I support Warren so whole-heartedly that I'm now a monthly donor to her campaign. of course I'll vote for her.

  112. @Judy Hill I'm with you! I send money regularly, but I will become a monthly donor too.

  113. Perhaps she doesn't want to "burn down the party" in pursuit of the nomination, but she hardly seemed reluctant to throw her most direct rival, Sanders, under the bus recently. I imagine he did say what she asserted he said in private, but there was no reason-- other than electoral ambition-- to have made this public. When asked in the debate whether what her staffer had said about Sanders' comment was true, she should have simply replied that it was a private conversation and, moreover, unimportant.

  114. To say electoral ambition precipitated this is incorrect—she only admitted he said it when pressed (repeatedly) by the media after CNN drudged up the more than year old story, which they’d been sitting on for just as long.

  115. @Sixofone She played the gender card, and it didn't work. I find that refreshing. Desperation might eventually lead her back to to claims of being Native American?

  116. @Sixofone She wasn't asked if what her staffer said was true; she was asked what she said in response to Bernie's statement. You can dislike the question, but let's stick to the facts.

  117. Maybe beside the point, but I don’t understand how the Democrats in New Hampshire can hold a primary in which a Republican can walk in, register just to vote, then unregister as soon as the vote’s cast. What is the reasoning behind that? Will Democrats be able to vote in the Republican Primary? I don’t know how two rigged primaries in a row to start it off is a good process.

  118. @Patrick - perhaps because the Democrats are trying to grow their party by attracting Republicans? They obviously wont for candidates like Warren, but some of the moderates have crossover appeal.

  119. @Patrick That is not "rigged". Anyone can vote in the Primary for the candidate of their choice. I am "unenroled" and switch back and forth all the time in MA. Only a drone would just vote the Party line. What would be the purpose of elections if that was the case?

  120. @Patrick Haven’t they let a man who is not a Democrat run in their primary? So, what’s the difference?

  121. When this year's election will cost $1billion, and we have a candidate who wants five and ten bucks and nothing else, how does Warren expect to win? I love her ideas, but I just can fathom how she can convince the voters that they can be funded. Bernie is talking the same things he has bundled for the last 20 years. He can't articulate funding either. And his tactics are 20 years old. No wonder he's an independent senator. Amy and Pete are the moderates with smart political strategies. But on another note: I think everyone would love to see Warren debate Trump. She would knock him off his block.

  122. Although I’m a Trump supporter, I initially found Warren to be an appealing candidate. Then she appeared on the debate stage. Her attempts at enthusiasm showed hyperactive skittishness instead. Kate McKinnon from SNL captures this perfectly. Then Warren took increasingly extreme and, dare I say, weird positions, culminating in her pledge to give a young transgender person veto authority over any Dept. Of Education nominees. Huh?? Just another victim of self-inflicted political wounds.

  123. @John "hyperactive skittishness'? She's an incredibly smart and energetic individual. Light years different than DJT. I guess if you don't care about humanity and your fellow human, she's not for you.

  124. You criticize Warren but how would you characterize the presidents style and delivery not to mention his integrity and competence? Look!!!

  125. @John Trump says windmills cause cancer, and cadmium, lead, and pesticide contamination in water tables don’t pose health risks, and you think Warren has weird positions?

  126. She is the best candidate, period. I am not worried. These two states are not representative of the US or the Democratic Party. The fact that she is not willing to back down on her principles in order to win only makes me support and love her more.

  127. You sayin' Elizabeth's goin' down 'cause she didn't get no delegates in New Hampshire? Why, heck! We got a heap of 'em down here in Texas to make up for that li'l old state. Just send her down here on Super Tuesday, and we'll see if we can fix her up with a bunch of ours!

  128. She needs to drop out of the race at this point.

  129. My sense is that Warren's reluctance to criticize the other Dems comes from the hope that she will be selected as Veep nominee. If one of the men wins the nomination, odds are overwhelming he'll select a woman. . She should have whacked Klobuchar, who's looking like she's a better choice for Veep after Iowa and NH, especially if Bernie wins the nomination.

  130. Shrilly accusing Bernie on air of calling her a liar in public did her in, imo. No one wants a(nother) hysteric president.

  131. Still early days - I am still rooting for Ms. Warren - whip-smart and just the person we need to take on Trump and his goons . . .

  132. Warren has been viscously attacked by two camps who are threatened by her: the cultish Bernie Bros on the left and the corporate democrats on the right.

  133. What about baseless accusing bernie of saying a woman couldnt be president? That was the dirtiest thing we have seen the entire primary.

  134. ....She's done, Spent. Time to back out gracefully on your own or get your teeth kicked in by someone else... Your choice. You lost it when you accused Bernie Sanders of something immaterial, out of context and obviously designed to garnish you a few percentage points. Nothing's worse than a sore loser, bow out gracefully,go home...OH YEAH, and don't forget to endorse and promote the nominee.

  135. Thank god we have pundits like Goldmacher and Herndon to help steer the national political conversation towards the bloodsport we all demand. How is anyone going to sell newspapers with a "unity candidate?" While others may think it a tad premature to declare Warren "the loser," your fearless journalism will undoubtedly stoke the resentment and fear our electorate wants in 2020. Pulitzer anyone?

  136. More of the same. The American people have been voting for fluff and fake tough for 50 years - vague lies - Obama, Bush, Clinton (Bill), etc were all narcissists with varying degrees of coincidental good intentions in their presidencies. Why do we elect them? We are just like them. Warren is I fear, too competent, and too real for this failing nation.

  137. Someone incredibly smart and principled! Warren 2020!

  138. I already voted for Warren in my California mail-in ballot. She is my choice.

  139. Everyone claiming she would make a terrific president has to explain why we should believe that when she's run such a poor campaign. From where I sit, she burned a lot of initial support and good will into the ground, and now looks completely ineffectual. I would have voted for her in the general, but I'm thrilled I won't have to. I won't *ever* forget her sleazy behavior towards Bernie Sanders - a friend and ally - at the debate.

  140. The NYT, and the rest of the MSM, are like a murder of crows, chasing after the latest (to them) shiny object. I for one wish they would not repeat their irresponsible coverage of elections, but perhaps that's too much to hope for. The primaries are a long game, especially when so many candidates are involved. I wouldn't count Warren out. She is smart, compassionate, experienced. She is not "shiny", but she has depth. I will happily vote for her in the primary, and hope to vote for her in November.

  141. Stick a fork in her; she's done. Would she make a good president? Probably. Is she going to be the nominee? No. Get over it. Find another candidate to get behind and determine to vote blue no matter who.

  142. Senator Warren’s humility is pretty refreshing, especially in contrast to You-Know-Who’s constant whining, his victim narrative particularly unbelievable when considering his power...

  143. I live in LA and have lots of friends in the movie biz. Whenever a movie fails (lots of times), they blame the marketing, the audience, the critics, whatever. No one ever says, "The movie was lousy and nobody liked it." The problem here is the candidate: she's not a good candidate. Just like Joe Biden.

  144. I feel we're about to make a big mistake. Democrats will regret not nominating Elizabeth Warren. I hope we wake up.

  145. The only reason she has fallen in my mind is because of the incident at the debate when she accused Sanders of sexism, and when he denied it, the CNN reporter ignored his denial. It was a foolish move given Bernie is progressive in the extreme, and it did damage to the "believe women" or "me too" movement, by being reckless. Its no wonder Bernie has surged. But make no mistake, once either Amy or Pete fall to the wayside, (it will likely be Amy who falls, because Pete is running rings around everyone), the moderate center will coalese and Pete will be propelled to the front easily.

  146. If this intended to suggest that Sen. Warren should have 'gone negative': the fate of Julian Castro and Kamala Harris, after doing that against Biden, argue against that -- as may Biden's collapse in New Hampshire after his digital ad mocking Buttigieg's downtown renovation with decorative bricks. Democratic voters seem not to be in a mood to forgive blatant personal disparagement of any possible nominee by another -- even if they let pass Buttigieg's less personal 'turn the page' and Klobuchar's riposte of him presenting himself as a 'cool new thing'.

  147. I think there are aspects of Warren's politics and demeanor make it unlikely that she'd win the presidency, even under ideal circumstances. That said, she is one of the great Senators of our time, and it's an absolute shame that she receives such little media attention when the media made Trump what he is the moment he glided down his golden escalator.

  148. Warren, along with Biden and Klobuchar, should stick out out through the Super Tuesday primaries. Its less than a month, but a lot can happen by then. If you're still in spots 3-5 and not close to the front runners, then bail and let the two front runners duke it out. Once the nominee is set in stone, then push for that nominee.

  149. Seriously-- "What Comes Next"? New Hampshire has less than 1/30th of the voters in CA. We vote in slightly less than three weeks. And we are but one of many States still to vote. What's frustrating is the NYTimes and other prominent media sources constant off balance rush to judgement.

  150. Perhaps Attacking your opponents is the right way to win support. Perhaps we are not ready for a person of such integrity. Perhaps we never will be.

  151. Warren lost me when she refused to answer how she would pay for her healthcare plans. The Democratic Party lost my vote when every candidate raised their hand in support of decriminalizing illegal immigration and providing free health-care to illegal immigrants. No thank you. Trump will be re-elected.

  152. Warren and Sanders are principled people with deeply held values and a real desire for economic equality and justice. I am truly baffled as to why Senator Warren launched the attack on Sanders over an event that transpired a year ago. I was deeply disturbed to see this progressive coalition composed of these two tireless warriors fall apart. What's more, why did she sidle up to Klobuchar, whose record as a prosecutor will not bear up under scrutiny in the future. As a female, I really didn't appreciate this at all. Klobuchar is the flavor of the month. She will be another in a long line of middling losers like Dukakis, Kerry, Gore and Hillary. Buttigieg lacks experience and in these fraught times, yes, experience matters very much. I don't see much of substance here. Another flavor of the month and when the going gets tough, he will disappear. The media alternately casts shade, pillories and then flatters these candidates. These articles coming rapid-fire at us are truly distressing and confusing. We must keep our heads and vote our values. Go Bernie, Go Warren. May the best person win. (And it ain't Billionaire Mike)

  153. @TM I'm ready to vote for Billionaire Mike. He's honest and so far, no hint of a scandal. Why am I ready to vote for BM? Because of the comments from actual NYC dwellers who lived under him when he was Mayor. Most were positive. His Stop and Frisk policy ended when it was no longer necessary. One or two black NYC citizens wrote and said they liked it. Black people don't like criminal gangs anymore than white people. He wants to leave the world a better place and he has the money to do it and is actually, right now, doing it. Imagine that.

  154. Elizabeth Warren is Solid. Let's see what happens in more diverse states--if a female lead is what you're looking for-she's a better choice than Klobuchar(Both endorsed by NYT)

  155. President Trump called it exactly right in his tweet. She’s looking for an exit but can’t seem to find it.

  156. I admire Elizabeth Warren tremendously. However when I hear someone say they reject They win I lose politics, then I get angry. We have a winner take all system, period. You lose and your opponent wins. You do really well but not well enough you get nothing, you have zero power. Ask Hillary Clinton about that. While you get to go on the talk shows and make smart comments, your opponent is running the government!

  157. I am interested to see what happens in South Carolina, where 30% of the population is Black and Mayor Pete (with his negligible Black support) could very well come in fourth place or lower. I hope Warren and Klobuchar stay in through Super Tuesday. I like most of the candidates. And If Warren does drop out, she’ll simply go back to being a reliably excellent Senator. We can’t have enough of those.

  158. Senator Warren has left me confused. When she started her campaign, her message was clear and the candidate passionate about the need to root out corruption in government. In the era of Trump, I was sold. Anyone - left,center, or right - interested in the health of democracy would support this call to arms from such an energetic, intelligent, and passionate leader. Then she started down the road of offering more and more things to the electorate - free college, free health care, reparations - which diluted her message and opened her up to criticism from the center and right. She then veered into identity politics and whining about misogyny from Bernie Sanders - who is a lot of things but not sexist. All in all, she became someone else. Certainly not a unifier. Last night I thought her speech was once more inspiring and on target, truly a call for good government and the need to unite to address the existential threat of Trump. THERE was Elizabeth Warren the leader I admired. Now today she’s taking potshots at her competitors - it made my head spin. I don’t know who she is. Shame on her campaign For giving a naturally sunny, smart, natural leader such bad advice.

  159. @Mrs Ming "veered into identity politics" "whining about misogyny" Yikes. Imagine trying to include women, people of color (especially women if color, in Warren's case), queer folks, disabled people, and poor people and being called "divisive" for it. That's what you're doing. That's some thinly veiled bigotry right there. Yikes.

  160. @Mrs Ming I missed her "whining about misogyny" and "taking potshots at her competitors," two things she has every right to do, but from which she has wisely, and perhaps to her own political peril, refrained.

  161. @Mrs Ming I agree wholeheartedly. If she kept tapping that vein cleaning up government corruption and corporate greed (maybe to put it simply, a much more thought and planned out "Drain the Swamp"). A big reason for her recent struggles is that she tried to out-progressive Sanders whose been in that business for decades, so she came off as someone trying to catch up with the leftward shift rather than sticking to her core message.

  162. I think it is remarkable how fast the USA has gone from "Yes We Can" to, everything is a zero sum game - If you eat a slice of pie, I will starve. When did the positive outlook, which has defined the USA for so long, slip away?

  163. Warren is my second choice after Sanders, but I can't help but feel bad for her as her supporters are ditching her in droves. Here we have a woman with real policy knowledge and experience on a national political level, and people are fleeing her campaign to vote for... Pete Buttigieg, the least experienced candidate polling over 1%? Amy Klobuchar, the senator with a problematic prosecutorial record and a reputation for mistreating her employees? Surely Warren deserves better than this.

  164. It is unfortunate, but Warren has been the subject of a dual negative campaigns from Trump and Sanders to drive up her negatives, and that seems to have worked to Sanders’ benefit. Part of what has me so committed to Warren is precisely this issue

  165. @Doug K You’re right on the money. Warren won’t take any tainted as the rest of them do.

  166. The primary process is far too long. It makes no sense that the first two states to vote have such outsize influence on the entire country’s say. But, in any case, let the rest of our nation speak before counting anyone out.

  167. Warren will not win the nomination because her brand does not sit well in large swaths of the country. She is un-electable outside of New England.

  168. @Mford Not true — she’s got lots of support here in IL. Canvassing here in Chicago, I find that over 50 percent of the voters that I talk to support Warren.

  169. I disagree with the author of this essay. The fact that Warren pleads for unity doesn’t mean she doesn’t play to win. Her problems are two-fold. She finds herself squeezed between the Bernie supporters who also want, in her words, “big structural change,” and the centrist candidates, who seek step-by-step reforms. The other problem is that she has poor judgement. Endorsing Medicare for all and then seeming to back off it in a confusing message. Attacking Sanders about his supposed statement that women couldn’t win was an unnecessary move. Attacking Justice Roberts in the impeachment trail was not smart, since Roberts was the only hope of a way around the Republicans, even if that was a long shot. She is inflexible, uncompromising, and a “my way or the highway” personality that won’t listen to others. However, I will vote for her if she is the party’s nominee, but now unlikely.

  170. I'm voting for Warren here in CA, 100%. She's the right choice for America, and blows every other candidate out of the water with her drive, positions, and plans. Bernie has ideas and followers but no coherent plans on how to make his ideas work ("build a movement" is not a plan), Buttigieg has no experience and doesn't stand for anything but nice sounding platitudes about being reasonable, Amy is too "get back to where things were fine". Nope, it's gotta be Warren.

  171. I think that there is plenty of time for Warren to get back into the race. Keep in mind that only two small states have voted. 98 percent of the delegates are still unassigned! Warren has a deep, strong organizing force and she still has money to spend. It’s really much too early to write her off.

  172. Elizabeth Warren needs to be more honest and clear about who she is first before asking the voters to support her to be president. Warren hasn't been poor or working-class since the 1970's--more than 40 years ago. Since 1980, she's been a professor at some of the most prestigious law schools including Chicago and Harvard. Constantly casting herself as a working-class young mother, and a member of the middle-class was just annoying. She also cast herself as a fighter for the powerless while being a member of the GOP for most of her adult life. There is nothing wrong with coming into political activism later in life or to be an accomplished law professor. However, the way Warren tortured her past to recraft who she is for political purposes alienated those of us who valued authenticity as a test of truth and honesty.

  173. @UC Graduate In this country, no matter how much money they have or how many generations their family has had it, many people of means like to talk about working class roots. Politicians especially. Over the years, I've herd some unlikely folks claim a bond of shared experience with those who are poor or struggling. In Warren's case, her family actually did have serious economic troubles when she was a kid; and she built her professional career by gaining the sort of expertise that could be used to redress injustices families like hers have to face. Why so quick to charge her, specifically, with dishonesty? The political landscape is littered with origin stories more deserving of distrust than Warren's.

  174. I think only Sanders has a chance to win the November election. I think it's getting more excited so far. I voted Trump but will will vote Sanders this time, if It's someone else I will vote Trump again.

  175. I think Senator Warren is the smartest candidate out there besides Bloomberg but she lost me with forgiving college debt. Her answer to the fellow who asked her about how he played by the rules and saved for his kids college left me cold. Unless college costs and medical costs are controlled, we just can't forgive peoples debts while those who played by the rules pick up the check.

  176. Just looking back 12 years and taking stock of what's happened to the middle and working classes in relation to the political class, anyone who calls themselves progressive, even if they're capitalist to the bone, must have realized that people not only desperately need change, but also reliability and loyalty from their politicians. The stunt Warren pulled on her friend, Bernie Sanders, left the opposite impression on voters, whether consciously or not. In her concession speech last night, it appeared that she handed things off to Amy Klobuchar, a centrist. Why would a progressive do that? What was Warren's aim with this campaign? I think a lot of people are wondering and running home, to safety. "I can't believe what you say because I see what you do." James Baldwin

  177. By this logic, Warren should immediately drop out of the race so that the voters can focus on other candidates. By one headline, Sanders won NH last night. By another, he doesn't have the support of 75% of primary-voting Democrats (in 2016 he has 60% of the vote of primary-voting Democrats). If Warren wants a fractured party, stay in the race and keep drawing 10% of the vote from Klobuchar or Buttigieg. Sanders will win the primary with his minority of fervent supporters.

  178. Her campaign is over, whether she wants to acknowledge it or not. She should look at what Andrew Yang did and not take more of her followers' money for a losing cause.

  179. I was all for Warren until she kept pushing Universal Health care for all. Her inability to pivot from that stance is what turned many people away...

  180. Combined, moderates won in NH. Progressives: Sanders 27 % + Warren 10 % = 37% Moderates: Buttigieg 24 % + Klobuchar 20 % + Biden 9 % = 53 % Others 10 %. A Bloomberg + Klobuchar ticket would be strong. Also, Bloomberg + Harris. But maybe Biden will catch up. And will Sanders' backers boycott the election, the way they did in 2016, rather than supporting Clinton? That is a risk.

  181. Win or lose, Elizabeth Warren should run a dignified campaign instead of scorched-earth campaign. When the Democrats have their brokered convention, they will be looking for a leader who can unite the party and lead it to victory, not a scorched-earth candidate who has angered many voters and who has limited appeal. In the meantime you will do just fine, and you will persist in this quest to be the Democratic Party nominee for president.

  182. "Ms. Warren has more delegates than Ms. Klobuchar or Mr. Biden, she polls higher among nonwhite voters than some rivals, and she maintains an enthusiastic base of supporters and high-profile surrogates." Let's stop writing the political obituary there. And let things take their course. There's an assumption throughout this piece, except perhaps in David Axelrod's remarks, that we are not headed toward a brokered convention where a compromise ticket, appealing to both moderates and progressives, will be needed and hard to find if things turn ugly before then, as they are wont to do in long, hard-fought primaries with no clear leader. Buttigieg and Klobuchar already have been lacing their speeches with set lines that are downright insulting to Sanders' voters; Klobuchar regularly calling progressive positions that are meaningful to a great many so much "noise." That may gain some traction at the moment, but it will not stand them or the party well if the primary season does not generate a clear winner. If Warren sticks to her clean "Unity" position and refrains from taking pot shots of dubious gain at her opponents, she may be in an enviable position come this summer. It's a long shot, but not unthinkable. In any event, Warren has no call to drop out. She did not invent her policy positions for the run for President. Most are things and outgrowths of things she has fought for all her life. Fighting on the campaign trail, even if one loses, is not a bad place to fight.

  183. @RRI With 1.5% of the delegates committed, she has one more delegate than Klobuchar (who is is on the ascent) and two more than Biden (who is also dead in the water). Not what you want to hang her hopes on.

  184. I love Senator Warren. She's both my neighbor and my Senator. I would love her to be President, but she's got a great day job and when we flip the Senate, she has a long list of policies to make into law and signed by the 46th President.

  185. I like Warren. But when she chose to first, play the gender card against Sanders, and second, act aggressive toward him afterwards, she lost my support. She probably thought, not unreasonably, that she had to do something to get ahead of Sanders for the left lane of the party. But she chose a really bad way to do it. If Sanders said what she claims, why wait nearly a year to mention it? And then do so in such a transparent attempt to label him somehow as anti-woman? If Sanders said what she claims, he was talking about political strategy, not fitness for the job. It seemed as though she was trying to conflate the two. Beyond that, Sanders and Warren had been allies, and she stuck a knife in his back on live TV. Not a good look. And not what I'm looking for in a President. And REALLY not what one expects from a "unity candidate."

  186. @Wolf Re: "act aggressive toward him afterwards" It may be that they misunderstood each other in their original conversation. We can't ever know. But in his response to that ill-framed debate question, Bernie did, in fact, imply she was lying, which seemed fairly aggressive on his part.

  187. Warren’s support started to fade when she mishandled questions about Medicare For All in the debates. She was evasive about raising taxes (while Sanders simply said they will go up). She then backtracked on its implementation to get the moderate vote. She already had been criticized for being misleading about claiming Native American ancestry. She tried to pivot away from healthcare to fighting corruption, but the damage was done. People feel she is not consistent or honest (qualities people never question about Sanders). Ultimately Warren just wasn’t that adept a candidate. Maybe she can mount a comeback. We’ll see soon.

  188. There is an old expression that the best laid plans come up short when life intervenes. That to me is Senator Warren's problem. Where others might be comforted when she proclaims that she has a "plan" for everything, I am discomforted by a rigidity that expects events to unfold according to "plan." It is more reassuring to elect a president with widely accepted core values, but the flexibility to adapt to the unknown. Ms. Warren is the wrong person for the job. She had best stay in the job she has.

  189. I feel the same way about mayor Pete. What’s the old saying know everything and do nothing. 

  190. @Mike A plan is an outline, a strategy. Most of us make plans in our lives at varying degrees of detail, but that doesn't mean we expect, or even want, to follow them rigidly. The plans reflect the vision. I'd prefer that to someone who tells me they share my values, but can't explain how they might expect to apply them.

  191. I agree with you

  192. Warren has a vision of a very different country than what we have today. If she gets 25% of what her platform calls for in her first term, we'll be lucky. But a tiny little vision leads to a tiny bit of progress when the climate crisis and ongoing collapse of the environment demand big change. Warren is a reform capitalist, and that is as moderate as we can afford in times like these. Don't count her out yet.

  193. I liked Warren, even sent a small donation last year, but she wasn’t my one-and-only. I am now firmly behind Klobuchar. I just don’t see Warren as having the demeanor to take on Trump. She’s a smart woman— but that alone is not enough to win in this country at this time.

  194. Elizabeth Warren was winning until she made two missteps: one, allegedly accusing Sanders of stating in the past that a woman won’t win the Presidency and two, when she publicly confronted Bernie on a live camera at the second to last democratic debate. Whether rightly justified or not to have done those two things; proved in the two recent Caucuses, Iowa and New Hampshire to have been her steady decline and primarily, given that those two states are heavily Bernie liberal centric. She still has a chance and shouldn’t exit just yet.

  195. @Sospectacular123 She made her first mistake going after Buttigieg with her “whine” caves. A quick search of the internet showed that she herself had held a fundraiser in the kind of cave she was whining about with Buttigieg. She also had made the news by dumping some of the money raised for her Senate campaign, which came from big donors, into her presidential race. She lost a few points on the purity scale for these slip ups.

  196. She needs to go on the warpath if... Wait. Strike that. It is time for her to make a Last Stand... No. She can't have any reservations about... Sigh. Never mind. Bury Her Heart in Nashua and move on. She can trudge along through South Carolina if she chooses, but it will be a Trail of Tears.

  197. Time to bow out graciously and support Bernie Sanders

  198. Warren and Sanders are the only candidates for POTUS I am prepared to vote for. My dream scenario is 8 years of Bernie Sanders as POTUS and Elizabeth Warren as VPOTUS followed 8 Years of Elizabeth Warren as POTUS and AOC as VPOTUS! Frankly I want Bernie's democratic socialism for the USA and Bernie can deliver. This is our main chance for saving this country from becoming a neofascist white nationalist plutocracy.

  199. How can you trust her?

  200. Oh give me a break. Senator Warren has as slimy a campaign as any. She has attacked Bernie, she she outright lied in response to questions (her son actually did go to private school, she actually did take advantage of her claims to being "native american"), and she has made loads of promises that there is no way she could keep (e.g., forgiving all student loans).

  201. For crying out loud, NYT, stand apart from others in the media. Only two small states have voted; that signifies next to nothing. Ask your own Nate Silver. Additionally, stop with reporting this like it’s the playoffs or a boxing match. Be the solution to crummy reporting, not part of the problem.

  202. Oh come on, nytimes. There’s been two elections in states that barely register in the delegate count. To practically call her a loser at this stage is why readers feel so frustrated with you lately. Most of your articles on candidates left of center continue to be hyperbolic at best and neoliberal hit jobs at worst. Either cut that out or give the moderates and Republicans running as Democrats (ie Buttigeig and Bloomberg) the same cynical treatment.

  203. Nonsense. Warren was fully willing to throw Bernie under the bus with her "Bernie said a woman can't win" story. And she was repeatedly caught lying. About her heritage. About her dad's job. About being fired because she was pregnant. Even about Native American recipes. She is losing because she's dishonest and plays dirty.

  204. This title is very silly - first the quote is not something people can understand without reading the article; “you lose, I win politics” is not a known concept. Second, it makes it sound like she did something bad - whereas the article is pointing out that she’s campaigned on an idea of unity and not perpetuating petty attacks on opponents like the bad, soulless politics that many Americans hate to see. If this is an article about how playing nice and by your own higher standards could be a fatal flaw in a party primary filled with other people ready and willing to deliver low blows - then the tone of the title is very off-putting. Would love to see the Times stray away from sensationalism via misleading titles, for the sake of accurate and less provocative journalism.

  205. What's next? Bloomberg - Warren, please.

  206. I'm thinking Bloomberg may be the nation's best reboot. Ford redux? Recommend if you agree. :)

  207. Umm...anyone remember the wine cave? The problem wasn't that Warren went negative, but that the thrust of the comment was inaccurate. Errors like that (inc the Cherokee stuff) have left people unsure of who Warren really is. A shame, she has so much real substance -- expertise, ideas, compassion -- but she doesn't really know how to package herself.

  208. Warren's story is simple. She was initially "the second lefty" next to Bernie Sanders, then she pivoted and moved to the center in a wishy-washy way. Then in the January debate she got down and dirty on Sanders ("You called me a liar"), and she lost the rest of her liberal base without having convinced any centrists. It's a shame, because her resume is strong, but her poll numbers are the result of her very intentional campaign strategy moves.

  209. Warren has zero personal appeal. She comes across as an annoyed high school teacher. No one wants to deal with that.

  210. They are dropping like flies. First, former Governor Patrick. Soon, Senator Warren. The group of Massachusetts favorite sons and daughters, all candidates for President will soon fall to a single candidate: former Governor Bill Weld (Who?). Maybe we can expect former Senator Kerry to ride in to save the day.

  211. Her decline started when she pulled the (hypocritical) "wine cave" stunt with Pete. Whoever attacks Pete ends up suffering and usually leaving. Even her followers were commenting on her facebook wine cave ad that it was beneath her and made her look petty...and it's not too late to pull the ad. Nope, she ignored that and brought it up again and suffered as a result.

  212. I agree. That was a major misstep that made her look like a gigantic hypocrite at exactly the wrong moment in her campaign.

  213. @Elizabeth Cole One wine cave infraction compared to the barbs darts spitballs missiles mud balls and slime the others have wielded. Why is Warren held to such an impossible level of speech production and commentary?

  214. This is totally anecdotal, of course, but here in NH we have seen a lot of Elizabeth Warren, and although many people I know really like her and her policies, others tired of what they characterized as her manic behavior. Her voice always seemed raised and soon sounded tired and weak, rather like that of a schoolteacher yelling at a class she couldn't control. It is totally unfair to criticize style over substance, but after having someone in the White House who is not at all presidential, although she would be a great improvement, some of us were looking for someone calmer. But to prove how wrong I am, Bernie won in this state! Although added together the calmer Buttigieg and Klobuchar did beat him. My point is that the fact that she didn't t attack others is certainly not the only reason she did so poorly. In fact when she called Bernie a liar, some of us felt that attack showed poor judgment. To split the party over a conversation that may have just been misconstrued was not a great move.

  215. I hope Elizabeth persists, the Democratic Party field of candidates, needs her critical mind and years of experience