Freeze on Global Entry Enrollment for New Yorkers: What We Know

Feb 06, 2020 · 213 comments
dearworld2 (NYC)
In addition. In order to export a car the original car title must be stamped by customs. As of this afternoon, customs will no longer stamp titles issued by New York State. Hence, no cars registered in New York can be exported. Definitely an export oriented administration huh?
Dave O'Donnell (11561)
Despite the obvious fact that a passport confirms citizenship status and is required for Global Entry and Trusted Traveler Programs, has no workaround for NYS residents been considered at all? How about NYS residents (even begrudgingly) confirm that they elect to share their DMV records when applying for or renewing their Global Entry credentials? Would that not close the gap that the DHS is claiming is there?
Airish (Washington, DC)
Despite all the predictable ant-Trump rhetoric here, the administration has acted fairly and lawfully. Any fault here lies with New York, and not because they decided to issue licenses to persons living here illegally, but because they gave the government the middle finger by refusing to grant access to records reasonably required to administer this program. Period. If New York repeals this law, problem solved. But I suspect the stare will instead shop for some woke judge to reverse this (who will inevitably be reversed on appeal, but not before muddling things up for a while.)
Eric Harold (Alexandria VA)
Keep the faith New Yorkers. We shall overcome.
Bill (DesMoines)
Most posters here are missing the reason why new Global Entry applications have been suspended. The State of NY was warned in December when the new law was passed that it would intefere with Global Entry. It was NOT that illegal aliens can get drivers licenses but that the State would not share drivers' license data with DHS. Other states grant licenses to Illegal aliens and are still in the Global Entry program. Get mad at your legislators not Trump. The very same legislators that passed bail reform!
Aubrey (NYC)
DHS spokesperson tweeted (see related article) that licanse records are necessary to show DUI or sexual offense - as if that makes any sense to homeland security. An awful lot of Republican Congressmen have had DUI and sexual offenses... will they have their trusted traveller status revoked?
SilverLaker 4284 (Rochester, NY)
Cut 'em off. If they are not citizens they should not have a license. AND if Homeland Security cannot access state records it cannot properly do its job. DHS's goal is to protect air travel, a responsibility that is compromised by New York's PC hustle for Latino votes.
Wendy, Proud Kid (From The Bronx)
Another scheme is being rolled out by the child. Didn't realise we live in a selective democracy. But the king has spoken. Interesting, if Trump were not president I doubt he would even qualify for Global Entry.
SParker (Brooklyn)
Having/not having a license had nothing to do with Global Entry processing and approval. Undocumented NYers are unlikely to be applying for Global Entry, since it requires proof of citizenship. It's all about punishing NYers for Cuome/Nadler/Schumer standing up to Trump and for the state broadly not voting for him. Perhaps we just know him too well.
Jonathan (Los Angeles)
Maybe California and New York should start withholding funds that's supposed to go to the Federal Government. Let's see how this goes if they don't have money to support to red states and their welfare.
AEK in NYC (New York City)
Clearly a punitive action by New York City's most hated New Yorker, but, based on my recent experiences, the impact on New York-bound and/or departing air travelers will not be too profound. Both the Global Entry and Pre-Check lines at JFK keep "banker's hours," opening late and closing early. I enrolled in the Trusted Traveler program last year, but as most of my travel since my enrollment has been north/south to Latin America (leaving and/or arriving after 6pm), I've yet to be able to take advantage of the program I paid big bucks for. We'll see if that still holds with my upcoming east/west trips to Europe and Africa.
Suburban Cowboy (Dallas)
Trump is not a NYer. He is a resident of Florida.
AEK in NYC (New York City)
@Suburban Cowboy "Trump is not a NYer. He is a resident of Florida." True, as of last year, when he changed his official place of residence. Hopefully, when he leaves office, he'll move to Mar-a-Lago and take Trump Tower, Trump Plaza, Trump Palace and all his other ugly edifices with him.
Lee Day (Ny)
I’ve used the e-passport app on my mobile. At Kennedy you go through the same expedited process as global entry. Might even be faster since you have pre filled all forms. Don’t know about other airports.
ErinsDad (NY)
DHS Application site will still accept your application and your money as of 8:30 this morning. Did no one tell DHS?
MIKEinNYC (NYC)
For his we have our whining fool of a governor to thank. What's the argument in favor of thwarting ICE from doing its job and going after people who illegally sneaked into the country?
North (NY)
There are many DHS vehicles using placards to park around Manhattan. Call in the tow trucks!!
Baboo Gingi (New York)
lets stop flying.... it will be great for the environment, bad for the economy.... exactly what he hates
Common Ground (New York)
In addition to excessively high taxes, it’s another good reason to leave NY
N’est Pas Une Pipe (Chicago)
So we’re a Republic but only when Republicans feel like down playing Democracy. Fun.
Judy (Elmira)
The process to obtain the Global Entry has multiple checkpoints to ensure the background was thoroughly done. It requires a passport, all known names, and an in-person interview which is only held is very specific locations. While I can't speak to the other programs, I certainly can regarding the Global Entry process. There is absolutely no way an illegal immigrant can gain access to the GE credentials. This is certainly not well thought out or sound public policy.
Bailey T. Dog (Hills of Forest, Queens)
The Dictator was kept in office by the Senate, within days he attacks a blue state. It is only the beginning.
Nycdweller (Nyc)
Wrong. What Cuomo did is wrong
Rob (NYC)
@Nycdweller They are both wrong, both Trump and Cuomo- they are both cut from the same cloth, just different sides. Do I get my $100 bucks I plunking down last August back?
99.9 (NY)
Using administrative action for political benefit (fear of retribution) one day after an acquittal. Dividing neighbor against neighbor, city and city, state against state, race, religions, you name it. Trumpicans will blame democrats for being divisive. Another abuse of power in a grey area where the evidence will be covered up, no law broken and legal rational by the likes of Jay Sekulow and Allan Dershowitz. Another step towards Putin’s goal of splitting the US by sowing discord and disunity.
jlc1 (new york)
Isn't the argument for trusted traveler programs that the travelers are, well, trusted? So now we have airport security personnel spending time vetting pre-vetted people instead of potential threats. This is protecting our borders?
Rojo (Bklyn)
Did you not read the article? It's those with pending applications who can't be vetted due to NYs refusal to make access to drivers license database.
MMB (Everywhere/NYC)
For the love of everything good, get this petulant, depraved, tyrant out of office in November. That is the only way to restore us to some semblance of normalcy. In NYC, we will protect our neighbors, no matter where they are from.
Welcome Canada (Canada)
What about firing the county clerks in conservative areas who work for NY but are forever trumpers? They are public servants, so serve!
SridharC (New York)
Would this become another reason for people to move out of New York?
Kathryn (NYC)
I JUST applied and they have my $100. How can one get a refund??? And this really is nuts.
Courtney (New York)
@Kathryn I would dispute the charge with your credit card company. You didn't get the service.
Jean louis LONNE (France)
The King is at work. Or rather his enablers, who are ten times worse. Having said that, these 'fast' entry systems allow the rich to not stand hours in line. If they had to, then maybe they would do something about the long process for everyone else. Think about it, please, most frequent fliers are the rich. It reminds me of Tunisia; they have a VIP service, you wait in a side room and all your immigration is done for you, then out to a waiting taxi.
Barbara (Los Angeles)
Get those tax returns! Subpoena Kennedy of Deutsch Bank (his father is former Justice of the Supreme Court) and confidant of Ivanka and Jared Kushner. Check tax records of Trump properties, money paid to Secret Service for the Trump family and of course Giuliani. Put on the pressure. There is only one response to extortion. Fight back.
aldebaran (new york)
The reason is obvious: NY will not allow DHS to check the criminal backgrounds of those it gives drivers licenses to, so no fast-tracking allowed. DHS does not want to fast-track people with criminal records into the US. Makes sense. NY has to blame itself.
North (NY)
Except that you can obtain Global Entry without having a driver's license, so your argument is nonsensical.
Practicalities (Brooklyn)
DHS can check the records with a court order. Ironic that DHS doesn’t want to follow rules to discover people who, it claims, are criminals for not following rules.
Zilli (Rochester NY)
There is way much more you need for the application process, and just having a driver's license is not going to get you through. I know because my application was held up simply because I had a stamp on my passport from Cuba.
adameyeball (new york)
Does anyone on either side of the argument here believe if New York was in play (say like Pennsylvania) for the Presidential Election that this would be enacted? For those on the right wing of the argument don't let Donald insult your intelligence again by pretending he is doing this to protect our country. Just call it what it is...vindictive politics weaponized against it's innocent citizens. That is far more honest.
Chuck (Paris)
What next, suspend New Yorkers right to vote in federal elections?
vcb (new york)
Don't give them any ideas!!!
Monica (Park Slope)
He can throw whatever he wants at NY and personally, I’ll take it. Sanctuary City or bust. We have to defend our values at all costs or the tyrants will have won.
Bill (DesMoines)
@Monica Our values as defined by you apparently means endorsing illegal behavior by shielding illegal aliens from the consequences of their illegal acts. Nice. I remember when Rahm Emmanuel proudly stated that he didn't want Chik-filet in Chicago because it was against Chicago values. The response was a line two blocks long to go in the shop!!
Doug Squirrel (Norfolk, VA)
Uh, no? Last week I saved 3 hours at Washington Dulles with Global Entry, and will do again next week. Loss of TT will set a lot of well-educated moderates against Cuomo.
Don Lawrence (Amherst NY)
When we applied for Nexus we had to have solid proofs of citizenship that did not include a driver's license. Then we were interviewed; a facial scan was next, which was followed by full sets of finger prints and a palm print. We could submit DNA next? I'm not going to get into the logic etc. of this, but NY has been singled out for sure and it is going to hurt commerce. Here in Buffalo and across the PEACE bridge in Ft. Erie, Niagara Falls, St. Catherines and on up we are good neighbors who enjoy culture, sports, etc. and a sense of belonging in a special place. This is NUTS.
Zilli (Rochester NY)
I concur - when I went for my interview in Niagara Falls, they got all fluffed just because I had a stamp from Cuba on my passport. Trump had placed the ban on travel the week after we arrived home - the border patrol folks didn't even know the dates that the ban went into effect, but I suspect it didn't matter, as I was flagged just because I had traveled to Cuba (even though the visa stamp and travel dates were clearly visible on my passport, of which they had scanned). They told me I had to provide documentation for proof of travel, but did not specify what that should be. I provided the invoice from my cruise which had the dates... then waited months only to hear back that my application was on hold. However, I had the chance to provide more documentation for the ombudsman to review, which may overturn the hold. Again, they did not specify what documentation they were looking for. After providing a copy of the visa I traveled under, and a specific itinerary of what I did each day, I was finally approved 3 months later. If my passport was under that much scrutiny, then I would like to think anyones would - if they even have one to present. Most 'illegals' will not have a passport, right?? Moral of the story, having a driver's license that can't be 'checked' is not going to get you through the process.
Joanne (Nj)
Timothy McVeigh had a driver’s license. Whether one is trusted to be a global traveller involves much more than a driver’s license.
Larry Feig (Newton ma)
All citizens of NY should refuse to pay their Fed taxes this year in protest! Let Trumps IRS try to collect from 15 million people. It will also help bring down the economy and get Trump out of office
Conservative Democrat (WV)
The rest of us travelers from unenlightened states have a right to feel secure that airline passengers granted special boarding privileges (not having to remove their shoes, for instance) are 100% vetted. The federal government is charged with this responsibility and states and citizens must play by its rules if travelers want these special privileges. Not allowing DMV records access for vetting endangers the rest of of us and was a foolish and provocative move by New York liberals.
North (NY)
Except that a) you don't need a driver's license to get into a TTP and b) all four 9/11 pilots had driver's licenses. Nice try.
Balanced (Blue State)
You are misinformed. The two have nothing to do with each. One must prove citizenship before trusted approval - passport!
Hmmm (Here)
Don’t be so ridiculous, as if the sole repository of criminal records is in a DMV database. You’ve clearly never applied to a program like this. Stop buying into the dictator’s propaganda.
Robert K (Boston, MA)
By interfering with New York Law, Trump is now close to becoming a dictator. New York pays the Federal government more in taxes than it receives. It is time to push back strongly be exercising its muscle. Maybe Trump Tower has used up all of its calls to fire and police?
Conservative Democrat (WV)
The president didn’t “interfere in New York law.” In fact the opposite is true: the New York legislature thumbed its nose at the fed’s Trusted Traveler requirements.
traveler (dtw)
Special travel privileges based on political beliefs? While opponents must navigate a cumbersome beurocracy designed to be punitive? Sounds like the days of the Soviet Union when, when Communist party members got special benefits.
dps (palo alto, ca)
Return his hate with love New Yorkers, fix all the streets around his hotel. Of course his guests may have trouble getting there with the roads under repair. Might play havoc with or prevent deliveries as well. Maybe that’s not a good idea.
Victor Parker (Yokohama)
In what now seems like a distant past in another galaxy I would recoil in shock at the criminality of Kakuei Tanaka, Japan's prime minister who was on the take from Lockheed. Tanaka now seems like a quaint anachronism and he at least did some good for his country. America will find that the rot will quickly work its way down unless Trump is voted out of office.
KWW (Bayside NY)
My wife and I are US Citizens with US passports, US birth certificates, and NY drivers licenses. Neither of us have ever been charged with any infractions with the law. We applied for and received conditional approval for the Trusted Traveler program. Our scheduled interview with CBP for next Thursday February 13th for final approval has just been cancelled as we are New Yonkers. It is unfair we are being treated like hostages to an argument between DHS and our governor.
MP (Brooklyn)
This was done out of sheer spite without regard to America’s safety and security. Having more people with TSA pre check and global entry makes America more safe. So he is endangering American lives out of spite!
Blaise Descartes (Seattle)
People need to decide what immigration policy to pursue. There are two extreme positions: 1. Have open borders. 2. Shut down the borders completely to all immigrants and expel all the illegal immigrants now in the country. Neither of those positions is tenable. But the intermediate positions have an infinite variety of options. It is in discussing those options that we formulate immigration policy that might work. The NY Times needs be discussing these options, not just venting outrage at every new policy enacted by Trump. Democrats are losing the public relations battle by being obstinate. And by certain inflammatory actions. Declaring that New York is a "sanctuary city" gets the discussion in Congress no closer to an acceptable compromise on immigration reform. It is simply saying to Republicans: "You are racist. We don't need to discuss actual policies because we are morally superior." Ultimately, this attitude leads to a fractured society, the end result being civil war or anarchy as public institutions just stop working. Democrats need to realize that people have been wrong about the right moral course of action again and again. For example, the thirty years war in Central Europe resulted in 8 million deaths but did not settle the question of which variety of Christianity was better. The notion of "sanctuary city" gets us no closer to actual solutions regarding illegal immigration. And actions like that have led to the rise of Trump.
Cal Page (Nice, France)
Isn't one of the tenants of our legal system that you can't write the law to apply selectively? For example, can NYC deny federal employees the right to drive vehicles in the city? Or to park there? Or perhaps close a small section of a state road that federal employees use to get to work? So, if the feds argue they have a right to deny NY residents, then also, they must argue that NYC can take any (or all) of the actions listed above.
Barbara (NYC)
I hate this administration for many reasons. This just adds to my list. I had applied last June, finally had an interview scheduled for Feb 18. I hate this administration. And I'd like a refund of my $100 application fee so I can donate it to the Democratic caucus. I hate this petty, vindictive, ruthless, amoral administration.
stanley (sacramento)
@Barbara Write your elected state officials and tell them to comply with immigration laws........
Eirroc (Skaneateles NY)
@Barbara You can thank Stephen Miller for this mess.
adameyeball (new york)
@stanley write your President and tell him to comply with the constitution. He seems not to care very much about it.
Thoughtful Citizen (Palmdale, CA)
When do we stop giving freedoms and benefits to people who entered the country illegally? In California, Sanctuary cities reign supreme hiding the information about illegal folks on the questionable basis that releasing such information would dissuade them from reporting crime. Democrats put themselves in a bind with moderate voters by supporting such policies.
Jennifer (California)
@Thoughtful Citizen - It's not a questionable basis, it's a fact. Multiple studies have shown that undocumented immigrants will not report crimes, even serious ones, or provide witness statements to the police if they think they're at risk of detention and deportation. I mean, I'm not sure what exactly you want us to do. Millions of people are already here, it is absurd to think we can unring the bell and just make them all vanish. Treating them with humanity should not be controversial. And as a plain economic fact, we need even more immigration than we currently have. Our population is aging, we will soon have all the boomers' social security and medicare to pay for, and the only way to support an aging population is to bring in more workers - i.e. immigration. Illegal immigrants are just people who come here looking for a better life. Most of our ancestors did the exact same thing before there were controls on immigration - they got on a boat and showed up here to make a life. Immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than natural born US citizens. They add a lot to our society, if only you can open your eyes to see it.
lhbari (Williamsburg)
@Thoughtful Citizen But all that has nothing to do with US Citizens with passports applying for and being accepted into the Global Entry program. This is just pure vindictiveness on the part of the administration. The dictatorship begins.
MarcS (Brooklyn)
@Thoughtful Citizen Allowing undocumented immigrants to get a driver's license also allows (and requires them) to get insurance. If someone hits you, wouldn't you rather they be insured?
William McCain (Denver)
This freeze is uncalled for. Everyone knows that if New York has said that it is OK for someone to fly, then that person does not pose any terrorist threat. The alarmists are wrong when they complain that New York’s verification methods are inadequate.
MarcS (Brooklyn)
@William McCain I guess you don't have Global Entry if you think the only required documentation is a driver's license.
A. Rothstein (Florida)
This makes Bridgegate look like a stroll in the park. There is no correlation between New York's position on drivers’ licenses and the federal government's action, except for a desire to punish New York State and its residents. You can bet that there will be a lawsuit filed shortly by the NY Attorney General.
C In NY (NYC)
@A. Rothstein Of course there's a correlation. To qualify for "low-risk" status, one has to to through a rigorous background check. I have no issues doing so, and if I could I would instruct the DMV to give access to my information to the federal government. DMV records have information that are relevant to the "low risk" determination, and if that access is not provided, CBP cannot determine one's status.
Max (G)
@C In NY You don't need a driver's license to apply for global entry. There are many other databases to search for criminal records (including, among other things an individual 'NYSID' number that can be used to query New York State databases). Basically, they aren't getting access to moving and parking violations. Also, since you introduce risk into the equation, care to explain how reducing the size of known travelers in the system makes us any safer?
Jessica (New York)
@C In NY Please tell me what info the DMV has that matters to security. In order to get any of those programs you need a valid ID/drivers license or passport all of which have your personal info. You are also fingerprinted &interviewed. Our country is in a LOT of trouble if we are relying on the DMV info to stop criminals.
Gigi (WA)
Is it legal to punish an entire state population for the rules enacted by elected officials? Driver's licenses have nothing to do with trusted traveler programs. What's to stop Trump from putting a freeze on passport applications for New Yorkers, thereby limiting their free movement throughout the world? Sort of a travel ban in reverse. Where does this stop? It's pure fascism.
Wanda Pena, (San Antonio, TX)
He. Doesn’t. Care.
Phoebe (NYC)
For all the states like NY that share their revenues with states that barely survive on their own and receive out-sized revenues from NYS tax payers - wake up. Oh, the hue and cry if NYS folks considered withdrawing "unfair" revenue-sharing practices going to states like....Kentucky...that didn't have this new TSA rule? In my heart of smarts, it is not practical to pursue this nor is it fair to withdraw support for our citizens. But do citizens in states friendly to Trump (and maybe hostile to NYS) understand that the pursuit of more quid pro quo attacks could rearrange their lives in ways that are far more consequential than our TSA lines?
aldebaran (new york)
@Phoebe NY is $1.6 billion in the red. No hands out to other states are taking place.
vcb (new york)
This is about redistribution of federal taxes, not the state budget.
Joel (New York)
There can be little doubt that this move was political retribution, but while our Attorney-General makes brave noises about challenging the action is court hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers will suffer the collateral damage. Why not fine tune the legislation. Change the law to permit DHS access to DMV records with respect to anyone who applies for a trusted traveler program or other DHS program requiring a security check or who consents to the disclosure. It won't harm the people that the new law was designed to protect, but it may get hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers, many of whom have no interest in being a sanctuary jurisdiction, out of the middle of this fight.
Zilli (Rochester NY)
Except... YOU DON'T NEED A DRIVER'S LICENSE TO OBTAIN GLOBAL ENTRY! So why would you allow access to a database, when it isn't a necessary supporting document?
historyprof (brooklyn)
How can this be a legal move on the T's administration? The Global Entry Program is a federal program and requires a passport issued by the US government. As far as I remember, I was not required to have a NYS driver's license. How can the federal government deny a service to the residents of one state , and make them ineligible for a program, but not another?
Phoebe (NYC)
Good question for the Supremes. Not that we should be hopeful...
Skeptical (NY)
@historyprof You don't need a US passport for Global Entry. Citizens from Canada and 11 other countries are eligible.
Heidi (New York)
You do need a passport-it was a required part of the application procedure. I am one who filled out all of the paperwork, paid the $100 and was waiting for an interview.
Ashley (New York, NY)
I'm glad the federal government is trying to push back on the very extreme laws New York is now passing that do not seem to benefit the legal residents of the state. I wish there were more NY legislators who were moderate, but moderation sadly seems to rarely exist anymore.
Bailey T. Dog (Hills of Forest, Queens)
Get the word to him: we have his and his family’s tax returns and can decide to make them public. We can rescind tax abatements. We can shut down his trump properties in this state. We can prosecute him for the crimes he has committed. We have a long memory, and he won’t be president forever. And we can act first and get permission later.
Chris (NY)
Awaiting my $100 application fee refund, DHS...
Christopher Figueroa (Bronx, NY)
Exactly! DHS needs to refund $5 million in application fees then.
jb (colorado)
Phase Two of the program will require that applicants sign a loyalty oath to the dumpster before renewing their passports. Perhaps the repub majority in the Senate ---especially those up for reelection this fall----would like to explain to voters the rationale behind this. I hope no one believes this will be limited to New York. Can't wait to see his plans for those pesky Californians. Sic semper tyrannis. It held true in Rome, inspired the Founding Fathers.....and I believe it will be proven again in November.
Sterlingi (Brooklyn, NY)
New Yorkers should stop paying federal taxes. I’m sure once Trump heard the complaints of the Evangelical Welfare Empire that is Red States, he’s reverse course. Remember we are the ones keeping those lazy states afloat.
D in BK (Brooklyn, NY)
It's ironic that Trump chose the the city of the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island as the backdrop for his war on immigration. The city that immigrants built. He has to punish everyone, not just the policies. This has been his bullying tactic since he came into office...get in "his" line or he'll send you to the "other" line and rip you apart while you're waiting in it.
MikeyR (Brooklyn)
He's been given a free pass, now the retaliation begins. It was a nice Republic- thanks to the GOP, we couldn't keep it.
mizrix (NYC)
Brace yourselves New York. Quid pro quo describes a mutually beneficial transaction. “How for Where,” as in you’ve got the shovel and I’ve got the treasure map. Let’s go dig. Today the Trump administration finalizes plans for mining on almost a million acres of land in Utah that had once been protected as part of a major national monument sanctified by the Obama administration. The land was part of the Bears Ears monument, which was established in 2016 by President Barack Obama. It is now open for companies to begin oil and gas leasing, because that land had under federal protection for less than a year. I said Utah, Mitt Romney’s yard and sanctified as a national monument by President Barack Obama. This is not a coincidence; not a quid pro quo. You can call it tit for tat. Better yet, just call it what it is. Revenge. New York has survived worse. It still stinks, though. What do we do about this? Not this - this TSA thing. We have a real problem. It’s enough already.
Able Nommer (Bluefin Texas)
@mizrix, Utah Republicans, including Romney, wanted Bears Ears et Al. for exploitation by Utahns / for jobs / growth / tax revenue. All Americans were ripped-off of protection of those federal lands. You, I, and a little over half of Americans CARE that another Republican heist was perpetrated. Thanks for your update on Republican thieves' finalizing another TAKING!
Able Nommer (Bluefin Texas)
"Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, the acting deputy secretary of Homeland Security, said on Thursday that the approximately 175,000 New Yorkers currently enrolled in the programs who need to renew this year would be cut off by the end of 2020.. (and) 50,000 New Yorkers who are in the middle of the application process.." Less than a quarter million voters, it won't flip NY to red, but you have to see what Donald is really after. He wants a fight with NY because he still has domicile and business there; and NY state will tax him pursuant their policies. He's going to gin-up a lawsuit to push-back paying those taxes; his personal lawyers will likely claim that NY is out to get him / to influence him.. to change Cuccinelli's policy. At the very least, he's going to exact NY administrators' pain.
Ethan (NYC)
I have Global Entry. I am a lawyer and a NY resident. I had a violation of trespass from more than 10 years prior to when I applied to Global Entry, stemming from a college civil disobedience act. I am licensed to interpret the laws of NY, not the CBP agent who mandated that I be the one to hunt down the court record of what happened to my non-offense, all because I answered that I had been arrested on my Global Entry application 11 years prior. I did the due diligence, not DHS. DMV is a false reason. My nearly 2 year old son had to have a passport in place before he could apply for and then attend his Global Entry "interview" as a then infant. That the DMV is a necessity would be laughable if it weren't for the inconvenience and obvious abuse of federal power. I hope this decision is swiftly overturned in the courts for its arbitrariness and capriciousness. On top of its likely 10th Amendment, coercive violations, as well as its due process (lack of notice) and Priviliges and Immunities Clause violations.
Zilli (Rochester NY)
Well said, but then, you are a lawyer! :) I agree, I got held up in the system just because I had listed my past travel destinations, of which, one was Cuba. I was told to provide information on my dates of travel, but they wouldn't even specify what they were looking for. All this when all they had to do was look at the stamp on my visa to prove that I travelled prior to the travel ban. I have to wonder though, if you hadn't divulged that information about your past, would they have been able to find out any other way? I often wonder if it was the fact that I listed Cuba as a destination, or if it was because they saw the entry when scanning my passport. I would like to think if it were the latter, then they would've had my dates of travel.
Bob G (Las Vegas)
I was looking at comments about this subject on another publication and was shocked to find almost universal support for the program among the commenters. They were quite open about wanting New Yorkers to pay for not conforming. They don't see this as a dangerous step towards totalitarianism nor do they understand they could be the next target.
Practicalities (Brooklyn)
I might be affected by this suspension, but there’s no way the Trump administration is going to bully us. I’ll gladly wait in line!
Marston Gould (Seattle, WA)
Perhaps the state of New York should ask NY taxpayers to send their Federal Taxes to a NY escrow account and withhold payments to Federal Government. They could also refuse entry into the state of any non-career government employees
NR (New York)
Which illegal immigrant is going to apply for Global Entry? If anything, it’ll be Global Exit.
pb (calif)
More vitriol from Trump. Does he ever wonder why he is hated the world over? Vote them out!
lh (nyc)
You mean 50,000 people who paid the $100 appiication fee will "immediately lose the opportunity"? Better hope there are a lot of refunds heading back to these people. What a nutty ridiculous vengeful policy. So petty and vindictive.
David G. (Princeton)
The DHS trusted traveler programs are a waste of time and energy. They barely save a a few minutes most of the time. Now they are a political tool for a petty tyrant. He needs to go, but just skip the 1 hour Global Entry interview at a major airport. It's not worth it.
Lance (Northeast)
What our president doesn't understand is the he is the president of the nation, not the president of only Republicans or areas that elected him president.
Michelle (Fremont)
@Lance He understands that. He is intentionally attacking Americans he perceives as being opposed to him.
YMR (Asheville, NC)
@Lance He doesn't care. Not one wit. Trump is only loyal to what he sees in the mirror.
Not 99pct (NY, NY)
This is just the beginning. If NY doesn't reverse course NY will lose TSA Pre-Check, CLEAR and who knows what else. Border security at the Canadian border and immigration at JFK / LGA can make life miserable with expanded background checks for everyone.
Margaret (Europe)
@Not 99pct It's already miserable for most of us, who don't have all these wonderful paying privileges. Among them low-risk American citizen grandmothers living abroad, who cannot access these services. We should all be equal at security. If people at the very top had to go through what we all go through the "service"might improve. Not holding my breath. I remember looking pityingly at El Al passengers in the 70s and 80s and what they had to go through to get on a plane. Little did we know that we would all soon be on the same regime.
sm (new york)
@Not 99pct Passport or proof of CITIZENSHIP required for those programs ; Trump cannot defend this action to NY . PS drivers license not valid ID ; TSA requires a passport or other proof of citizenship ; you must not travel much .
Edward Devinney (Delanco, NJ)
You have to have a passport to apply for Global Entry, then you have to go for an interview. Undocumented aliens to NOT have passports! The king is angry, and demanding group punishment. Is the king not aware that Republicans also travel? Recall that the courts have held that "sanctuary cities" could not be denied their funding for being such. Likewise, our brave New York Global Entry patriots should not be denied either.
Anna (Buffalo)
@Edward Devinney. It isn’t just Global Entry. This affects Nexus (Canada/US), FAST (commercial drivers), etc. Nexus and FAST don’t require a passport.
Eirroc (Skaneateles NY)
@Anna Those programs do require proof of US or Canadian citizenship, which obviously can’t be produced by undocumented individuals.
xyz (nyc)
@Edward Devinney "Undocumented aliens to NOT have passports!" if you mean undocumented immigrants in the U.S., they DO have passports but NOT U.S. passports!
AnnNYC (New York, New York)
I am a New York resident who has Global Entry, but I don't have a NY State Driver's License, and no New York State DL was required for my Trusted Traveler documentation. Add another lie to the endless Trump list.
NYT Reader (US)
@AnnNYC Oh wow! Do you have a NY State Photo ID (DMV-issued non-driver ID) though? Because if you don't, then it's harder to see dropping NYers as a good faith move to preserve the integrity of the program...
Jan H (New York, NY)
My 7 year old great niece does not have a drivers license or a NYS non-drivers ID and neither does my great aunt. They both have had Global entry, in fact, the 7 year old just had hers renewed last week. So yes, the basis for their action is without merit.
JLWNYC (New York, NY)
Ditto. I have never had a NY drivers license, but I absolutely do have Global Entry. A drivers license is merely one of the forms of valid ID acceptable to meet the application requirements. Do people seriously think Homeland Security could deny access to a federal Trusted Traveler program to people who were blind or disabled to a degree that prevented them from obtaining a drivers license? Or to US citizens who simply do not need, have, or want a state drivers license? Does anyone truly believe the federal government is completely flummoxed and rendered unable to do a background check on someone, simply because they don’t have a drivers license? It’s almost funny how transparently petty and punitive this new edict is. Almost.
Susan (Clifton Park, NY)
This has nothing to do with illegals or safety. It’s pure extortion.
Qcell (Hawaii)
@Susan it’s not extortion just as there was no quid pro quo. NYC is violating immigration laws and endangering Americans buy harboring illegal immigrants who should be deported.
Practicalities (Brooklyn)
@Susan Nothing else but. And because we "liberal elites" are the ones likely to be traveling internationally, this is little else but petty revenge.
qisl (Plano, TX)
Time for NY to drop security at Trump tower.
Opinioned! (NYC)
“He’s learned his lesson.” — Senator Susan Collins
Mike Smith (NYC)
Trumps need to be tossed from city. They can have fun watching climate crisis swallow that tawdry Florida house.
Getreal (Colorado)
Extortion! Again.
John (NYC)
I am a New Yorker. My husband and I have Global Entry cards. I am more than willing to stand in longer lines at the airport if it gins up even more opposition to Trump. He can take his threats and go pound sand. I am only glad that he is now a resident of Florida. The sunshine state can have him and his entire family.
masayaNYC (Brooklyn)
I'm sure this'll change once the non-Global Entry-toting US population is subjected to the hordes of my fellow disgruntled NY'ers plugging up the regular TSA lines. The inept evil of this Administration is surpassed only by its relentless stupidity.
Andrew (NYC)
Seems like it's high time for some new quid pro quos, and open season for abuse of power!
E (NJ)
Fully supportive. Follow federal law, or don’t. Let’s see if the Democratic Party wants to reserve any rights for citizens. License - gone. California allows jury participation. Gone. And we know the party view on voting — it is unfair if only citizens get to do it.
KKW (NYC)
@E Federal law doesn’t cover local issuance of state driver’s licenses. Or liquor licenses. Or medical licenses. All are controlled by state law providing for standards covering operation of a vehicle, selling alcohol or practicing medicine. Like gun ownership. Guess you’d like national gun control? I would. For everyone’s security.
terry (ohiostan)
@E Get real, they're going to drive better that they are licensed and insured. The Democrat proposed serious immigration reform years ago but Boenher blocked it because of the Hastert (Boyraper IL) rule.
RS5 (North Carolina)
So the Senate tells Trump he can do whatever he wants without consequence, and then he goes and does this? That sure does make me think some big thinks.
masayaNYC (Brooklyn)
Seems like this is a blatant violation of the Constitution's Privileges and Immunities clause.
Jim Stevens (NYC)
I think providing those who are not here legally should not be granted licenses. Part of being a legal resident or a citizen is that we cooperatively contribute and benefit from our state and country. Why would we give a benefit to someone (a license) who is now lawfully present in the US? It's the wrong message.
Anna (Buffalo)
@Jim Stevens that’s fine. Agreed but the people who have nothing to do with passing legislation get punished.
Kathie A (Liberty, NY)
@Jim Stevens Because (1) if a person gets a license, they must get insurance; (2) they must pay the fees that help support all of the driving population; (3) they must demonstrate an understanding of road laws and an ability to drive (pass a drivers test); (4) their identity is on record in case of an accident. Until around 1980, undocumented individuals were able to get drivers licenses. It worked pretty well then, and it will work well now. Allowing the undocumented to legally drive benefits us all around.
G Money (New York)
Hi Kathie, I agree with most of your sentiment but with one correction. In New York State, licensed drivers are not required to carry auto insurance. It is required for the owner of a vehicle at time of registration. If you let anyone drive your car in NY, whether they have a license or not, your insurance would be responsible for any damages if they have an accident. It does not matter if the driver has insurance - or a license. Hence the insurance phrase “coverage follows the vehicle, not the driver”. Just a clarification as I see you have posted about it a couple of times.
Toni (Florida)
New Yorkers are now faced with a choice. They can revoke the law prohibiting the Federal Government from access to DMV records and continue to enjoy Global Entry privileges or they can continue to prevent agents of the Federal Government access to state data essential to enforcing Federal law and lose their Global Entry privileges. If NY refuses access to that necessary data then NY residents lose their privileges. New Yorkers need to decide whether they agree with the law and whether the rights of undocumented immigrants to anonymity (from the Feds), is more important than their right to expedited access in airports.
KKW (NYC)
@Toni NY will be just fine. This country is being laid waste by hate. We aren’t. I’ll wait in line and support NYS elected and appointed officials who have a moral compass, stand up for what’s right and don’t panic at the sight of someone different. None of us are native to the US. All of our families were immigrants. What possible use is such hate against others? And what a sad existence for such closed and hostile people. I’ll wait in any line I need to.
M. (California)
@Toni or they can recognize that their dilemma is yet another artificial and probably illegal spite by the Trump administration, vote the bums out in November, and regain their rights while keeping their state laws firmly in place.
Max (NYC)
False choice as neither have anything to do with each other. Go pander somewhere else.
Rachel Block (Albany NY)
Everyone will need enhanced ID to get on any plane - no regular drivers license will be sufficient- so the goal will be accomplished in a year or two
Antonio C Martinez II (New York)
Drivers licenses primary function is to ensure Drivers are competent to operate a motor vehicle.
Kathie A (Liberty, NY)
@Antonio C Martinez II And tp ensure that the driver's car is insured, and that there is insurance to protect others in case of an accident.
Eirroc (Skaneateles NY)
@Rachel Block Untrue. One can use a passport to board any plane, as it’s RealID compliant. One does NOT *need* an *enhanced* (or otherwise) “drivers license” to board a plane, or for any other reason. There are several forms of RealID compliant identification that can be used to board a plane, one of which is an enhanced drivers license, and you can’t get the enhanced version without a passport or birth certificate/proof of citizenship. (A passport isn’t an “enhanced ID” but it’s realID compliant.)
Donna (Westchester)
This didn't stop them from taking my $100 when I applied 3 weeks ago. I wondered why I wasn't approved for the interview. Oddly, my husband who applied a few hrs after me was given his conditional approval within a week.
Citizen (White Plains, NY)
Again, a driver’s license is not required to apply for Global Entry. People who don’t drive, have no record with the DMV, can still apply for and receive Global Entry. So what is the real rational for this restriction placed on New York? Like we don’t know.
Mwang (New York, NY)
According to the Customs and Border Protection(CBP) website, Global Entry requires a passport and either an ID or a Driver’s License. Not only that but an interview would need to be scheduled with the DHS. Since DHS is not being permitted to access the information from the NYSDMV as from the Green Light Law, it bars DHS from running background information on an individual and anything that could be potentially dangerous from their state of residence. Am i saying this action is wrong? It depends on the results of this, but you need an ID which may not be possible for some illegal immigrants to get so they’ll get a driver’s license.
Charles (New York)
@Citizen It is possible a person may not have a drivers license because it was revoked, perhaps due to some criminal activity. This is additional information that may be pertinent to the decision process. Also, we do not belong to any of the Trusted Traveler Programs yet, are sometimes assigned to the precheck lines presumably due to the information from the database of our drivers licenses. The entire operation is interconnected to be smooth and adaptable. Now, someone from a cooperating state will likely take our place.
Peter Hansen (New York City)
In this age of credit bureaus, all sorts of commercial consumer profile services, on-line court records and the enormous information-gathering capabilities of both police and numerous government agencies, can you honestly say that a person’s DMV records will make or break a background check for terrorist activity? It tends to make one wonder where all those billions of Homeland Security budget dollars are going.
Minarose (Berkeley, CA)
I'm starting to think we may need Mayor Bloomberg to go toe-to-toe with Trump to stand up for the large states with Democratic governors and senators. We in California already know the animosity Trump feels for our state and the efforts being made to push back on our reform to protect the environment. This curtailment of the Golden Entry program is just another of Trump's punishment of New York and it won't be the last.
Me (USA)
Imagine that. Trump being punitive. Oh, and he also wears no clothes but don’t tell anyone.
Frances Grimble (San Francisco)
@Me Sorry, the statue of nude Trump was already made.
Miriam (Brooklyn)
I don't think you can apply using a non-NY address because when you apply or apply to renew you have to bring proof of residence documentation. I am going to be inconvenienced by this but it is worth it if it means my undocumented fellow NYers can have IDs and of course no one is suffering as much as those kept imprisoned in cages at the borders... I'm surprised it took that sociopath this long to retaliate against (a limited mostly privileged group of New Yorkers that travel often).
Daniel Kauffman (Fairfax, VA)
We can’t just allow anyone to join a program that improves the efficiency and security of the traveling public and our communities, can we? Hmmm...
Tommy (USA)
@Daniel Kauffman Yes if a terrorist can get a DL no questions asked - it won't effect security at all. And a few successful airline terrorist incidents will not cause a slow down at all. The irony is that this DL thing is really is not improving the lives of the average undocumented for years. Most cannot afford to fly. Most wage and discrimination cases go to federal court so its not improving economics in the near term either. Maybe NY is like TX and just loves cheap labor? But it sounds better if you can claim helping a refugee. But really wouldn't it be better if they weren't refugees from their homeland? How about taking down private economic concerns that support that need to be refugees. Economic concerns that often reside in the US or Western world.
Harvey Bernstein (Westchester, NY)
@Tommy 1st of all there are still questions asked. 2nd, they don't get a 'Real ID' or 'Enhanced Id'. So it can't be used to get on a airplane or enter the country from Mexico, Canada or the Caribbean. Trump is just doing this because it will be a bit harder for his troops to go fishing. His troops can still get what they need with a subpoena. Anything wrong with that? We still have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. The claim is that it will be harder for them to get an applicant for Global Access's birth date. But it requires a Passport to get GA. It is a transparent lie and punitive; like so much is being done to the states that didn't vote for him..
Eirroc (Skaneateles NY)
@Harvey Bernstein All of that, agree 100%. And it’s not “Trump doing this” – it’s Stephen Miller doing this.
Anonymouse (New York, NY)
Since this law should impact New Jersey, as well, this is clearly aimed at New York and its political leaders. New Jersey is home to too many Trump supporters enforce such a policy. If you have active Global Entry, etc through 2020, as noted in the article, then you will be fine assuming he doesn't get re-elected.
JR (Bronxville NY)
This is another example of an administration determined to attack those states that it deems unfriendly. Denial of SALT is a direct attack on those states that promote education. Now an attack on a state that supports America's international role. Let us remember the message that George Washington sent to COngrfess uring adoption of the Constitution: In all our deliberations on this subject, we kept steadily in our view that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety--perhaps our national existence.
Sandy Walter (Sunrise, FL)
Coincidental timing? Seems like petty revenge to me (Cuomo? Schumer?). His advisors must be working overtime.
Tom Tailor (NYC)
Meanwhile, I am scheduled to go to JFK end of the month to get my Global Entry, having already paid my $100. Who's going to make me whole?
Tommy (USA)
@Tom Tailor Probably covered by being "grandfathered" that is hopely it goes through since the paperwork and your DL checking are already out there. If not you probably get your $100 back...assuming your DL can be accessed while there in person to prove that it is your $100. Thank both governments state and national for that question if it occurs. I would assume in that case that your $100 gets mailed back to the address on the rejected application in most likely 30-60 days.
Ian (Los Angeles)
A Democrat in the White House.
NY MD (NY)
@Tom Tailor, my spouse and I are in the same boat. We applied back in June and have been waiting over 6 months. We were finally told to schedule an interview, which is set for the end of the month. Since they've already done everything but the interview, including the background check, their rationale about the DMV database is nonsensical. It's quite clear that this is punitive and nothing more.
RAR (Los Angeles, CA)
This is purely a punitive move on the part of the Trump administration. It's not just New York that is targeted, Trump has been threatening California with all kinds of retaliation for it's treatment of immigrants (among other "offenses" that don't sit well with the hate filled, climate denying, misogynistic bully in the White House). It has nothing to do with screening for Global Entry which is a thorough background check that will reveal your country of citizenship, place of birth, etc.
Joanna (NYC)
They certainly didn't mention this when they accepted my $100 renewal fee for Global Entry two weeks ago. I'm sure they haven't even thought about that in their petty scheme.
Daniel Kauffman (Fairfax, VA)
@Joanna Maybe someday, Americans will have individual escrow accounts for payments to the government. Settlements will occur on the dates the requested products or services are provided.
M. (California)
@C in NY is remarkably active on this thread, early and often, and is rationalizing the Trump administration line to an alarming degree. It's pure nonsense. This is a political move intended to harm New Yorkers to put political pressure on the state government to cooperate with xenophobic policies. It has zero to do with security.
Madison (NYC)
In order to get the Global Entry you need to show your passport. An undocumented person isn't going to show a passport which shows they do not have a legitimate Visa. Undocumented people have no plans to fly out of the country....and no interest in flagging themselves by applying for something like Global Entry.
RP Smith (Marshfield, Ma)
This courts should shut this down pretty quickly as it is blatant political retaliation, and has absolutely nothing to do with the security of Global Entry. To gain entry into the Global Entry system, you have to have a valid US passport, which no illegal immigrant will have. You also need to fill out a detailed life history, go in for a 20 minute in-person interview with a CBP agent, after they do a background check on you and be finger printed and photo ID'd. And most importantly, you do not need a drivers license to get Global Entry.
J (middle of nowhere)
@RP Smith I think the in-person interview is a formality for most individuals. I was at the counter for only a minute or two, time to present physical documents and have a picture and finger prints taken.
Eirroc (Skaneateles NY)
@RP Smith For NEXUS, I had Canadian and US CBP interviews, fingerprints, and iris scan. Needed my passport, but *not* my (New York State) driver license. I get Global Entry AND TSAPreCheck privileges with NEXUS. It expires in 2 years. This is purely Stephen Miller’s doing. Vote Democratic in 2020!
Better American than Republican (Proudly, NYC)
So he has already taken action to go after US citizens?
dogrunner1 (New York)
This is reminiscent of Chris Christie's toadies messing up access to the George Washington Bridge because he was not supported by the mayor of Fort Lee. In the current situation, Global Entry and undocumented immigrants are totally unrelated as Global Entry members have already had their documents careful vetted, been interviewed, fingerprinted and had their movements tracked. As noted, Global Entry not only benefits people who subscribe to it, but speeds processing at checkpoints and entry points across the U.S. As New Yorkers tend to travel a lot, such a suspension would mean that TSA and DHS/ICE/Customs would have to hire and employ more agents in most ports of entry in the U.S.
The View From Downriver (Earth)
@dogrunner1 Unfortunately it will just mean longer lines at New York entry points. More "winning" brought to you by the Most Corrupt Administration in American History.
dogrunner1 (New York)
@The View From Downriver Actually, it will also mean longer lines in Houston, Miami, Dallas, Los Angeles and San Francisco, as these entry points are also heavily used by New Yorkers.
sm (new york)
Not surprising at all ; this president uses the office of the presidency as a cudgel against those he considers enemies , real or imagined but mostly against those that oppose his autocratic bend . Another court fight (he loves them ) for his ridiculous premise , as you need to have proof of citizenship , background check , in order to be accepted into those programs . Just more of Trump vendettas .
tommag1 (Cary, NC)
NY's answer to Chad F. Wolf should be to detain him for identification checks if he ever sets foot in NY. Rikers would be an excellent detention facility.
Frank F (Santa Monica, CA)
So much for the vaunted Republican support of "states' rights."
Marcus Aurelius (Terra Incognita)
@Frank F States’ rights do not include the right to interfere with or defy federal immigration laws, nor do they include the right to give drivers licenses persons here illegally... No do they include the right to make laws affecting national security...
Annelle McCullough (Syracuse)
@Marcus Aurelius -- I agree. No informed person would think that state's rights prohibit the federal government from imposing limits on immigration or otherwise controlling the ports of entry to this nation. Matters of national security are complex and important, and deserve serious thought, not just hyperbole such as "extortion" or "fascism" -- or silly comments like Frank F's.
Dadof2 (NJ)
Doesn't this violate Article I, Section 9, Clause 6 of the Constitution? "No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another. "
Stratman (MD)
@Dadof2 It doesn't violate the constitution any more than the requirement that a state set its speed limits at 55 and its minimum drinking age at 21 if it wants to participate in the federal highways program and obtain federal funds. Global Entry, like REAL ID, is a federal program that comes with requirements. States that choose not to meet those requirements are free to do so, but at the cost of not being permitted to participate in the program.
Dadof2 (NJ)
@Stratman Perhaps I missed the part where speed limits and minimum drinking age have anything to do with ports of entry. I also missed the part where individual citizens of a state that may not be in compliance can be discriminated against when in other states by the Federal government. Global Entry is not a state mandated or controlled program. It is strictly a Federal one. I'm not a lawyer but I've not seen anywhere on my Global Entry card anything about it being contingent on anything my state, NJ, does. While the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment specifically refers to states, courts and other Federal laws have extended it to include the Federal government. This is nothing but Trump doing what Trump has done his entire life: Attempt to hurt and damage anyone who "crosses" him in any way. He knows the minute he leaves office, the Attorney General of New York is likely to indict him on numerous state crimes, unaffected by the Presidential pardon power. So he's punishing New York.
Harvey Bernstein (Westchester, NY)
@Stratman These illegals or undocumented (as you please) are not being issued a license with a REAL ID endorsement. To get that you must provide a birth certificate, passport or green card & other docs - even in NYS. I know this because I went through it. This has to do with Trump's 'Real police' rooting around in our DMV database searching for undocumented. As usual, Trump has simply muddied the waters and you can't see it. That is a serious problem - just not the one you are complaining about. You have been conned and we are being punished. I can see why it was so necessary for McConnell to keep Obama from appointing any judges since this; along with so many other outrageous and unfair actions will end up in litigation.
Patricia Maurice (Notre Dame IN)
The Trump administration has decided to punish citizens who live in one state because they don't like something the state is doing. They already wrote the new tax code to punish residents of so-called 'blue states' and reward residents of so-called 'red states.' Now, they are using global entry to punish residents of a blue state. Does the Trump administration understand what a civil war would mean to the USA? They seem to be pushing more and more to start one, little by little. Why not just let the south and parts of the midwest secede, make Trump the president of the new confederacy, and let the rest of us live our lives in peace?
EW (Glen Cove, NY)
Not one single Republican should ever be elected again in NY state.
Dude (West Coast, USA)
@EW I disagree. Not one single Republican should ever be elected again in any state. (I used to think I was Republican. I was wrong. My apologies.)
RP (NYC)
Illegal aliens now hold NY drivers licenses. This document no longer certifies legal US residential status.
North (NY)
It never did. (See: "Passport") Driver's licenses are licenses for operating a motor vehicle.
Max (NYC)
It never did
Not 99pct (NY, NY)
NY politicians did this in a dog and pony show to display to liberals, "hey look we are standing up to Trump and ICE!". Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Yea, let's pander to illegal immigrants, what kind of world do we live in.
adameyeball (new york)
@Not 99pct And Trump doesn't pander to his base. All while lying to them about health care etc
Linda (NYC)
First the SALT tax limits and now this. We can expect a whole lot more of this kind of vindictive and vituperative action against blue states if Trump gets reelected.
Rooney (New York City)
That's fine. I know a really nice county north of here where they speak French and English. Trump makes the case for New York to become New France.
Ellen (Berkeley)
This is retribution pure and simple and disrupts commerce as well as travelers....truck drivers that use FAST to cross between US and Canada....those using Nexus at same crossings. I have a Nexus pass and was required to have a valid US passport to get one (plus interviews with both Canadian and US border officers) prior to approval. My teenage daughter has a Global Entry, then got NEXUS (not on my application) and doesn’t have a drivers license....my 90 year old mother no longer has DL but she got a Global Entry...this is banana republic stuff.
NYT Reader (US)
Assuming access to an applicant's DMV record is truly required to vet them as a trusted traveler, it's not unreasonable to drop NY from the program until a solution can be found. I'm curious to know how hard the agencies tried to collaborate on a solution, and what made them give up altogether. What if the applicant could sign a waiver during the in-person interview allowing DHS access to their individual DMV record? Could the DMV and DHS work on setting up a system giving DHS access restricted only to the DMV records of program applicants?Some additional fees and processing time could apply to NY applications, to pay for setting up the system and account for the additional review step(s). Then again, maybe that's too much effort and resources to be spending on a convenience program? And if that's the case, so be it. As someone who spent years flying to/from work week in and week, I still think giving up a trusted traveler program is not the end of the world if it means significantly improving other people's lives.
Mary (NYC)
@NYT Reader I have Global Entry and, in order to obtain it, had to provide detailed personal information (including proof of citizenship), appear for an in-person interview and was fingerprinted. While I do have a driver's license, plenty of people who live in NY do not. Having a driver's license was not a prerequisite to obtaining Global Entry. This retribution against residents of NY State is seemingly yet another game being played by Trump and his administration.
JLWNYC (New York, NY)
And there’s the exact reason this is very obviously a petty and retaliatory order: New York DMV records *aren’t* required to do the background checks required for Global Entry vetting, so the law allowing immigrants to get a drivers license have literally nothing to do with this. I have never had a drivers license in NY, but I have lived in NYC for nearly 30 years, and I have Global Entry. A valid drivers license is merely one form of ID you can present, along with your passport and other information, to meet Global Entry application and vetting requirements. An illegal immigrant, even if they DID obtain a valid NY drivers license under the new ‘Green Light’ law, would not be able to supply the other documentation needed to apply for and clear the background checks for Global Entry. It’s all another ridiculous red herring put forth by the Trump administration to punish anyone who doesn’t bow down to his willfully ignorant and uniformed whim.
Jim (Idaho)
So, access to driver's license information is by a computer program called NLETS; it's what police officers pull up on their in-car computers when they run your driver's license. Any LE agency is on NLETS; there's no special pass code to access it. Does this mean no law enforcement anywhere will have access to NY driver's license data? I don't see how NY can exclude ICE without excluding all LE everywhere. If so, that is indeed bad.
C In NY (NYC)
@Jim It's funny how things are being turned around. In order to protect information of people who have something to hide (and whose information should thus reasonably be available to LEOs), we put at risk those with nothing to hide and would have no issues giving LEOs access to that same information to begin with. Our NY politicians are losing sight of their priorities.
John A. Figliozzi (Clifton Park, NY)
NY law enforcement officials have access to DMV records. That’s all New Yorkers need for protection. Last I looked it wasn’t NY law enforcement officials that dropped the ball on 9/11.
Mbb (NYC)
Can someone explain what the DMV has to do with anything here? Global entry has to do with your passport (so you know what country someone is from) not your drivers license, and there are plenty of other ways to do background checks--DMV hardly has the monopoly on background info. Thanks.
C In NY (NYC)
@Mbb DMV records are used to verify or corroborate so-called Personally Identifiable Information (PII), which can include residential address, date of birth, height,weight, eye color, hair color, facial photograph etc. Has so much time passed since September 11 that we all of a sudden don't care about being able to properly identify individuals who qualify as "low risk" in order to access the country in general and planes in particular?
Peter Henry (Suburban New York)
@C In NY And of course that information is also on your passport, which is a much more secure document (which was one of the reasons for "Real ID") and it has all of that information encoded on a chip embedded in your passport.
David Lu (NYC)
In the past, a drivers license was not a prerequisite for Global Entry. Plenty of non-driving New Yorkers are in the Global Entry program. So what has changed? Just Trump’s carte blanche from the Senate to do anything he pleases, legal or not?
C In NY (NYC)
An unfortunately all-too-predictable outcome of watering down the scrutiny associated with the issuance of Driver Licenses (which can still be used to get on planes). Citizens have to provide all forms of identification to get one, and the new rules affect that. But more importantly, as the letter states, the DMV provides information that are needed to screen those who apply for Global Entry. I have no problems giving access to my information in order to maintain my Global Entry and TSA Pre-Check. More and more rules being implemented in NY to protect those who, in one way or another, are violating the law, have immediate, negative effects on law-abiding citizens
Charles (New York)
@C In NY I agree, most of us would allow such access. That "access" would, presumably, include citizenship status though, and that, I suspect, is the problem. The whole Green Light law was poorly thought out and, at a minimum, if they wanted it that badly, should have been passed after the date enhanced licenses are required. This could end up being a short-lived Democratic majority in the state legislature.
Peter Henry (Suburban New York)
@C In NY Your theory falls apart when you realize that having not having any driver's license does not disqualify you from obtaining Global Entry. Since you claim to have been screened for Global Entry you would know that the requirements are much more stringent than a DMV license check. And of course, citizens of other countries too are eligible to apply for Global Entry as we are able to apply for many of their trusted traveller programs.
C In NY (NYC)
@Peter Henry Where CBP get unfettered access to the information or the "low risk" grade is not obtained (in fact, not all countries are eligible). The DMV database provides corroborating information (or confirmation of lack of bad information) needed to achieve the "low risk" status. Ultimately, those with nothing to hide, welcome the screening and would be happy for CBP to access the DMV database to prove that, in fact, they are in good standing. Those who are not in good standing, not so much. Perhaps 19 years is how much time is needed for people to forget about September 11. Before granting "low risk" status to anyone getting on a plane, I personally would like CBP to leave no stones unturned.