First SALT, then this
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Get rid of the RACIST in the White House. Him and his father have always been this way.
We need a person in the WH that's for all humanity, not a select few.
trump is not the one, he's obscene with his own ego. DUMP
TRUMP IN Nov.
Let's try another businessman. BLOOMBERG
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To be above the law is to become the law. Welcome to Trumplandia.
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Revenge, retribution, retaliation.
Fueled by vengeance, Trump is in payback mode.
Republicans created a monster.
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This 'President' has become a grotesque caricature of a banana republic dictator, and predictably, 'acquittal' will now unleash his worst demons of victimhood, narcissism, and revenge. In 2020, the choice will be simple, and will not be Republican or Democrat. We must decide between authoritarianism and democracy.
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Oh America. If you elect a thug, and then tell him he is above the law and cannot be removed, even via impeachment, you are going to get thuggish policy. Every single move he makes against coastal, Democratic states will thrill his spite-fueled base just as surely as it it serves his own vindictive nature.
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You wanted to be a sanctuary state, now you scream when reality comes to pass buttercup?
There is more to come just wait and see!
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Fascism 101.
It's here, kids.
Read up on Mussolini's march to absolute power, change the name to Trump and see how you feel.
We are in the destruction of the rule of law, press, and opposition phase.
More to come
Mush more.
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Dear Editorial Board,
Fear mongering does not look good on you. Please stop dividing our citizenry.
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Trump to funding for cross-Hudson tunnel repairs: Drop Dead.
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Berzelius Windrip would truly love Donald Trump.
Don’t be surprised when King Donald declares a national emergency and “postpones” the election in November.
We all thought it was bad before Donald’s trial. We ain’t seen nothin yet.
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Trump, the ultimate Florida Man. The Jokes just write themselves. Congratulations, you got rid of him.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Totally expected from this crazed dictator who wants to be thought of as "Dear Leader". How pathetic are the Republicans who stand by this insane president. We are at new lows, and we keep getting lower. We better all start praying.
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Wait till California gets in Trump's focus.
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Egad-trumpvilles?
Oh lord, whatever shall I do!
Oh right, travel as usual.
Unless he cancelled my passport, none of this affects me. Just like it does not affect the millions of New Yorkers the NYT is trying to scare.
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No sympathy for the sanctuary cities that defy our nation's immigration laws. Leftists in these cities espouse open borders as long as they don't actually have to live next to them. Look at all the shiny new towers soaring over the huddled masses of homeless.
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Trump is a sick, vindictive man. And for people not to see him for what he is is extremely short-sighted. I fear for my children and grand-children who will have to live with Trumps destructive actions for decades. The results of pretty much all of what Trump has done in 3 years is equivalent to the BP oil spill several years ago. The short term damage was obvious, the long-term consequences will linger.
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All his life, trump the conman tried to belong to the elites in NY and was laughed at. He was so grotesque and fake that he didn’t belong to NY at all. LOL
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Payback?
The New York County DA is coming for him.
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Trump is a vindictive authoritarian bully! I am sorry for all the NY people that use Globe Entry. I do. I cannot imagine living without it (3 international trips a month).
This man must go! Bloomberg, please come to the rescue!!
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Only if you are a naive left wing New York politician passing culture killing laws should you worry. They are the ones who are victimizing the people of New York with high taxes and policies that love criminals more than hard working Americans. And if New Yorkers continue to elect them, don’t expect those of us in States with rational leaders to let our loved ones be put at risk by the New York Democrats.
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You just have to Check and balance, ahahah
We have seen it before. If some one in the village is a traitor burn them all. Trump understands this practice.
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Need any more proof that the Electoral College is a disaster and needs to be dissolved?
Exhibit A...djt.
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People scoffed at me when I made the multi-tier comparisons between Hitler’s rise and Trump’s yet the similarities continue.
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Susan Collins what lesson did Trump learn??? Poor excuse for not doing your job.
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Way to go, Ms. Leticia James! Stand up to the ignorant bully.
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Trump knows he's not welcome in NY, so now he's punishing us. He's now a Floridian, not a New Yorker. They're welcome to him. His eponymous tower in NYC is a death trap and should be condemned and torn down.
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Trump, a narscisstic, vainglorious, bankruptcy prone ex-property developer with weird hairdo, makes Berlusconi, ex-prime minister of Italy, look like a saint. At least, Berlusconi has senses of not combing hair over his bald head
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Maybe if you hadn't used the NY Attorney General to raid Trumps lawyers office, and other constant subpoenas etal. things would be different. Pretending NY State has not brought this grief upon itself is to ignore the attacks the state has made on President Trump and his associates. The idiotic policy "Mini Mario" is putting in place. Hey we ticked off Amazon why should Trump be any different.
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Look up Stalling’s rise to power..... familiar?
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Established old money New York never did accept Fred or his boy, Don. No matter what young Trump did, he couldn’t crack the society barrier. Trump’s run for President was fueled by the need to prove he was better and the roasting Obama put on him at the 2011 Correspondent’s Dinner. Same thing in Florida. Old PB money wanted nothing to do with him either...what we’re seeing is a “hold my Perrier” moment...
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This editorial is so badly wrong on so many levels. The idea of 'sanctuary cities' is seriously flawed (and deeply illogical) and it will cost the Dems a great deal this November. Americans clearly pointed out that illegal immigration is a serious problem which needs to be solved, not nurtured, which is what the 'liberals' are doing for all intents and purposes.
But, NYT is a mammoth echo-chamber with its own logic and actions, partially correlated with reality, and the fact that one Trump beat them should be a clear indication that something is wrong with the immigration attitude that is so relentlessly pursued on the pages of NYT. Yet, in their infinite arrogance, the 'liberals' never learn ...
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ha ha - did someone say “extortion?”
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This man and his thugs have to be stopped or we are going to soon become a full fledged authoritarian state...for the life of me I will never understand why his supporters won’t or can’t see this in all that he’s done/said this past week alone. And he’s just getting started with a new round of complete and total lawlessness —gifted to him by all the spineless fools in the republican senate.
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Can we take a moment to appreciate how Trump, the epitome of manhood, whines on the SOTU address about how he's being treated so badly, how amazing he is, and basically spouting lies more than half the time? So strong, so tough!
Or how Republicans love to stamp their feet and pout about federal overreach......unless of course, it happens to a blue state? Incredible defenders of individual states' rights!
Or maybe how Trump being described as a "counterpuncher" is basically an euphemism for him being a man-child and unable to exercise any self-control from being too easily triggered? What a paragon of maturity and manliness!
Sarcasm aside, did anyone really expect anything less? And before folks in the red states get too comfortable, remember this; your senators are acquiescing to him because they fear what'll happen to them if they break his fragile ego. He has no loyalty to you, only to himself.
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“Abuse of power”, anyone?
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Is the phrase "government backed facilities", a euphemism for "prison"?
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Vindictive, spiteful, and petty.
The trump trifecta
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“In sanctuary cities, local officials order police to release dangerous criminal aliens... ” Mr. Trump claimed, FALSELY...
- Falsely? You left the part out where he cited a specific instance:
"Just 29 days ago, a criminal alien freed by the sanctuary city of New York was charged with the brutal rape and murder of a 92-year-old woman. The killer had been previously arrested for assault... he was set free."
As to the known traveler programs, this situation was brought on by governor Cuomo when he gave illegal aliens driver's licenses.
The known traveler issue is relatively small. It may affect tens of thousands. Because of Cuomo's reckless decision, millions of Americans - everyone who has driver's licenses - will be affected.
Because non citizens can get them, New York driver's licenses will no longer be considered valid for boarding domestic flights.
If you want a license that can be used to get an airplane you now have to provide to the DMV that you are a citizen - even though prior to this reckless decision, you already had to prove you were a citizen to get the license in the first place.
Illegal aliens get a driver's license.
Citizens have to prove they're legal.
Doesn't make sense.
Cuomo has put the convenience of illegal aliens ahead of the American citizens he was elected to serve.
A NY license also includes automatic voter registration. Something to be seriously looked at.
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Time for another impeachment inquiry, folks, this time including subpoenas for Bolton et al.
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Oh, my...imagine the day when a Democrat becomes POTUS and the worm turns.
Red states that get more from the federal government than they pay into the federal government? "Punish" those states by making their federal support proportional to their contribution.
State limitations on women's healthcare options? Punish that by cutting off federal aid.
Loose state gun laws? Allow cities and states to use Dodge City shakedowns -- police will be allowed to "stop and frisk" people from other ... say Red ...states for guns and contraband.
Nice precedent, Mr. President.
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As if the trump presidency is not punishment enough!
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Kindly thumb the pages of your personal DSM-V and you will see the how and why. Don't have a personal copy, then purchase one. Every American household should be qualified to diagnose him given the past 3 years.
Or decode your bowl of Fruit Loops.
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This is America, where everybody is on Trump's revenge list.
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Trump, a vulgar man of revenge who has no stomach for even the most innocent criticism aimed at some of his gut-decisions. He is King, makes no mistakes, no one dare to contradict him, as he threatens to destroy his/her character with name calling and expletives...and the GOP adores him...their term will come too!
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NYT is woefully out of touch. We here in middle-America do not have passports and do not travel abroad (can't afford to). Most NY residents outside of NYC aren't either, statistically.
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Just more evidence that the Trump regime (it is NOT a legitimate administration) is an ongoing act of terrorism against the citizens of the United States and the constitution.
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Global Entry is available for Citizens of Argentina, India, Colombia, United Kingdom, Germany, Panama, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwan and Mexico but as of now, not US citizens who reside in New York. This is kind of silly and says a lot about the professionalism of the powers that be over this decision.
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Trump wants to give NYC the Idlib treatment that Assad dished out to his perceived enemies.
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What's the argument in favor of thwarting ICE from doing its job and going after people who illegally sneaked into the country?
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If it helps, here’s a link to an excellent video produced by Vox that attempts to explain what a sanctuary city/state means:
https://www.vox.com/videos/2017/4/25/15425008/how-sanctuary-cities-work
Not surprising that while the GOP laments about states’ rights, and oppressive federal government’s interference in our lives, it is on the list of their political hypocrisy when they have no problem stepping in at the federal level to oppress states (and here punish) when the state is not doing what the GOP wants it to do...
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Thirty-seven years ago, the YMCA of Louisville, KY, instituted a program, Safe Places, to provide support to teenagers whose lives were at risk of going off the rails. Since then, the program has spread widely. President G.H.W. Bush even singled it out as one of his "thousand points of light".
Now, as another Republican president turns his guns on states and individuals, it may be time for another program with signs in our windows and on our buildings to identify safe spaces for Democrats and others whom our Dear Leader would declare apostates, like Mitt Romney.
Those rabid sycophants led by Steven Miller will be happy with this new if irrational policy as will one other group: pike manufacturers.
If you're from NYC, you have bigger problems.
Your beloved Mayor just gave his own State of the Union address with a tagline" Save Our City."
Think about that for a moment in the context of your 7 year mayor making this bold proclamation.
Then?
Don't hit yourself in the forehead too hard.
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Have you ever seen such a resentful brat in-chief, so immature and insecure as to demand blind loyalty -excusing his proven criminality- and unable to accept a scintilla of fault of his own by lying and insulting and abusing his power with glee, unrepentant, guilty as charged and yet given a pass by a most coward and hypocritical republican party, thrashing whatever little self-respect remains. We have trouble around the world, but none as dangerous as the current 'fifth columnist in-chief, seemingly proud in enlisting foreign aid to help him re-assault the presidency this November. Awful. Given that Trump has no remedy, and remains a clear danger to our 'health', and justice, and basic decency, he must not be allowed to stay in office. This, in spite of the cult of personality he developed by cheating on his 'base', and held emotionally captive for his own devious purposes. This is a crisis folks, and if we remain indifferent, we must only blame ourselves for Trump's misrule.
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So it's now acceptable to the GOP for POTUS to attack U.S. states and it's citizens? Hmmm
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Trump, once more sinking to the lowest of expectations, has not been chastened by the experience of first being impeached and then tried in the Senate. He is emboldened by the GOP enablers who knowingly disregarded the oaths they took to uphold and defend the Constitution and then to be impartial jurors.
Trump will not conduct himself with complete impunity thanks to the feckless GOP lapdogs.
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Good for Leticia James! It’s about time somebody stands up to Mad King Donald, the Toddler Tyrant. Most of us learned on the playground that bullies like Trump are cowards. When enough victims of his bullying finally join together and confront the thug he will back down. If only there were a few Republicans with the courage to speak up.
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The editors describe as "combative" Trump's SOTU, laced with inflammatory lies such as the one cited by the editors about sanctuary cities. Lower down they cite New York's A.G. Leticia James on Trump's retaliatory move: "New Yorkers will not be targeted or bullied by an authoritarian thug."
Actually, Ms. James, New Yorkers are being targeted by an authoritarian thug. But I get what you're saying. My specific hope, however, is that the NYT editors might take a lesson in diction from Ms. James. Trump's speech as well as his action is not accurately described as "combative." It's much more accurate to call it "authoritarian" and "thuggish." As of February 6, 2020, it seems certain that it's going to get more authoritarian and thuggish, and fast.
The editors need to keep up.
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Actually, if you're from New York, you're first on Trump's hiring list for misanthropic sycophants.
Lest we forget, the Age of Trump has been defined by New Yorkers.
Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Steven Mnuchin, William Barr, Anthony Scaramucci, Sean Spicer, and—yes—even Trump ally Boris Johnson were all born in New York. Each of them embodies the New Yorker's misanthrophic hostility towards foreigners. Their characteristic New York bluster, bullying, and buffoonery has defined our national and global discourse.
Frankly, liberal-progressives across the country will rejoice when the current reign of New Yawkers finally ends.
I'm from California, we've already experienced the threats and lawsuits over our environmental laws. And republican lawmakers from our own state cheer him while he imposes HIS will, rather than that of The People. Goodbye "United States of America", hello Trumpistan.
State or NYC should levy severe penalties against the Trump businesses that have assets in the state and begin the festivities by arresting one of the horrid children on one of the menu of crimes committed by this mob family. Or focus on the equally corrupt Kushners.
This little worthless man-baby trump is a dictator in the making.
The spineless republicans rolled over for him and handed him the keys to do whatever he pleases... they betrayed this nation for their own individual profits and comforts.
Nothing more needs to be said... it will only get worse from from this point on.
Look up the video of Saddam Hussein’s 1979 Ba’ath Party Purge, which Hussain had taped so he could instill fear in anyone thinking of opposing him.
Watch that video and pay attention to Hussain’s body language and attitude and then watch trump’s victory celebration after acquittal... you will see two men who are one and the same.
Watch his remaining party members praise him and revile those he called out for execution.
Those are the exact same kind of people as the republicans who acquitted and then praised trump’s lawlessness.
His entire life trump has reveled in petty revenge, he lives for it and he enjoys lording over others with his fake and purchased victories.
The republicans have unleashed trump’s petty and spiteful nature to run rampant over this nation.
Second on the list. Pelosi and Schiff are Trumpet's new personal enemies. California is under attack from every angle.
When you don't care who gets a driver's license, all the legitimate CITIZEN drivers lose some of the priviledges of having earned that license.
Of COURSE there will have to be changes down the line because the whole country can't be asked to just deal with NY citizens giving up what they used to enjoy.
This is Lesson One in Why Socialism Stinks.
there is a law in the works that would give rights to illegals that American citizens would no longer enjoy, so it's time to start shrinking your lives, New Yorkers.
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"...Then they came for me."
How can people be so blind not to see this? Cross this dictator, and your life is no longer yours.
Next to be attacked will be the MAGA hat wearing, "Build the Wall" shouting Trump supporter in Texas, who objects to HIS land being seized for a border wall.
Competing with a Trump property somewhere? Enjoy your fine tooth comb IRS audit.
Holding an Indivisible meeting? Expect frequent visits by the police, just checking in to make sure "everybody's ok".
I think giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens is outrageous and should be roundly condemned. Punishing sanctuary cities is from my perspective giving them exactly what they deserve.
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In one sense, this is an admission by the President that his own agencies are so incompetently run and inept at their jobs, that they cannot independently vet American citizens.
That is the bigger issue here. The total incompetence of the administration's ability to actually run government agencies, and have them do their jobs, that they were competently executing before Trump took office.
Just another example where Trumps total incompetence in being an administrator is on display front and center.
this will back fire when republicans realize that they too will be impacted by this ruling.
besides, if its drivers licenses for undocumented workers they are worried about, why take it out on those who have passports and are in the system?
the undocumented will need a passport to get global entry.
this just shows how ridiculous this whole issue for the bigot is.
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The Democrat controlled state government in Albany, lead by Cuomo, brought this measure by the federal government on themselves, and the citizens of New York. Allowing illegal aliens to obtain drivers' licenses, and then restricting federal government access to the DMV databases on all drivers left the federal government with no recourse except to retaliate with force. Consequently the travelers residing in New York will pay the price of the actions of their own state government. Meanwhile have you been to a DMV office lately? The long lines for licenses will amaze you, and it will simultaneously show you just how many illegal aliens reside in our state.
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All this, because the GOP wishes to pack courts with religious conservatives. They are eagerly hoping for judicial deaths.
What a bogus charge.
National Security trumps (pardon the pun) local and state laws in every instance in the history of our nation. Do you want another 9/11 in your back yard. Chance are, probably not.
Want to correct this issue? Call your state legislators and correct the current state law restricting contact between the locals and the Feds.
Homeland Security and TSA have job to do:
Trying to keep you alive. And Washington was correct in making this call.
Are you inconvenienced at the airport New Yorkers with very long lines? You did it to yourselves.
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IS that all you got Don? you gonna have to do better. This is petty and the court case that will ensue will be very enlightening.
OAC is right. We need to end ICE NOW. It is a rogue organization, now irredeemably politicized.
another denial of states-rights since the will of New Yorkers does not fit the President's limited vision.
These are all the acts of an authoritarian ruler. Collective punishment is part of the dictator's playbook. It's meant to inspire fear -- and submission. Races, nationalities, language and religious groups, genders, states, cities, the earth itself are on Trump's search-and-destroy list. And this is only the 1st term.
Vote while you can!
Trump did not "claim falsely". He lied.
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Trump is weaponizing our own government against us. He has already withheld disaster aid as punishment. This is vindictive, mean, bullying, terrifying, authoritarian Trump unleashed. The Republicans are fully culpable.
Now AG Barr has said that any investigation into political candidates (including Trump) has to be approved by him. So, the message and the set up is that Trump has the go ahead to cheat and steal the next election and his rival will certainly be investigated and smeared. Now I am wondering about the Senate and House races. I have no faith in the sanctity of the next election and our ability to take back our democracy.
Where this will take us, I can only guess. If history tells us anything, it definitely isn't good.
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Have we ever had such a divider and chief? He is using the government, our government, to punish US citizens in states he is unhappy with. This the day after he is let off the hook by the Senate. Expect more nastiness to come - he is unleashed.
So when a Democrat holds the Presidency he should end all non essential spending and close unneeded military bases and other welfare payments in red states. That will balance the budget quickly.
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When will the House just refuse to fund the rogue departments of Trump’s administration? The power of the purse should be exercised. Forcefully!
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“...Trump is a man of conviction.” The Senate wouldn’t convict him. Perhaps the Southern District Court will do so.
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If he knew me, I would certainly be on his enemies list as would millions of right minded Americans. But he will never know us. He can’t see or feel us. I pray he lives long enough to see, hear and read what truth the country will see about the extent of his crimes against our democracy.
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Can someone explain to me how New York City manages to be a model sanctuary city with a big liberal reputation and still births and nurtures Donald Trump, Rudolph Giuliani, and William Bar all in one demographic cohort? That is the trifecta of horrible. I could add Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter though they're about 10 years younger.
Very strange indeed! My father used to say New York's liberalism was only "money deep." In other words, folks with money could afford to be liberal but white people who didn't have money were quite conservative. He would always point out that New York City twice voted against Abraham Lincoln as president!
So, New York, keep doing good work as a sanctuary but please quit creating horrible people like Trump and his cadre.
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The reason NY did not vote for Trump is that NY does not only know who he is, they know full well WHAT he is.
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Donald Trump*, for whom no act of pettiness is too small so long as it makes him feel good.
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I am the Democrats' worst nightmare. I am a white, Jewish, New Yorker who is both a NYT and WSJ subscriber. And while I don't personally like Trump's TV personality and he appears to be lacking intellectually, I am backing him and the GOP 100%. I find the consistent attempt to legitimize illegal residents by giving them drivers' licenses repugnant. Add to that moves to permit them to vote in local elections, under the assumption they will create bulletproof Democratic majorities. I applaud the Administration's policy, however it is perceived, and however it may inconvenience me and the many(but nowhere near enough) other Trump supporters in NYS and CA.
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Will this administration next try placing sanctions or boycotts on particular states with laws that do not support his views? US citizens who live in New York might next see other restrictions that are similar to those placed on foreign countries like Iran. Is this what the country needs next? All I can say is: VOTE IN NOVEMBER!
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I do believe Trump Towers may have a mold problem requiring the immediate evacuation of all the tenants. The city's mold inspection crew has a lengthy backorder of re-inspections and so it may be June before it can certify that the problem has been dealt with.
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Republicans support states’ rights except when it comes to a woman’s right to choose, gun control, legalization of marijuana, environmental laws, immigration, LGBTQ rights, food safety, nutrition, and the poor to name just a few.
What happened to the republican mantra that government is the problem? I wish I had a dime for every time I’ve heard and continue to hear my republican friends say sarcastically, “We’re here from the Federal government and we’re here to help.”
Well I guess the Federal government is not the problem as long as republicans are the party in power.
There's a name for them. It's spelled h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e-s.
Now I'll wait for the false equivalency or whataboutism comments to follow this.
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"When it comes to political retribution, the president is a man of conviction."
Would that this president were a man of conviction when it comes to impeachment too. Too bad the Senate had the fix in.
I am disgusted by this country, whose citizens are apparently rallying around a corrupt, vengeful charlatan who is on the take. Scores of people are hooked on opioids and others are going broke on farms or incarcerated, with racial overtones.
Russia is taking over our elections, while Republicans feed us the convenient conspiracy theory that it’s actually the Ukraine. Or that Trump did nothing wrong. Meanwhile, people believe the string of lies he makes at his rallies or state of the union. And they embrace the myth that the economy is booming. It is, for the rich.
I am not hopeful.
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If Trump wins in 2020, talks about seceding from the US will emerge from the west coast and New England (and New York/NJ). Red State values and Blue State values are moving in opposite, irreconcilable directions.
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This is actually great news. Every single person denied enrollment in the Trusted Traveler program is another vote against Trump and it further showcases the depravity of the GOP in an election year.
That being said, "Sanctuary City" is an eye-roll concept even for folks like me that are long time moderate Dems and something that is long, long over-due to be fixed.
Trump is real dumb; the Pre-check Program not only helps the traveler but they help Customs by speeding the passage at the border. Now the Feds will have to hire more agents and install new facilities at airports , specially in New York. This is going to hurt also the travelers from red states since many land in New york from overseas. many are republicans and probably trumpers, so they have it coming.
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Chris Christie's lane-closing strategy applied to airplanes?
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I think this also involves the way he personally has been treated in New York: People laughed at him, real estate biggies didn't trust him and shut him out, he couldn't get dates with the best girls -- had to settle for trailer park girls and eastern european girls looking for green cards. Just a host of things -- and he's still trying to work his way into the inner circle -- giving huge tax breaks to Wall St. types who have always shunned him, perhaps in the hope they will finally like him. It's pathetic.
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This is ridiculous! Next thing he will block people from coming back into the country, and it won’t matter that you are a lifelong citizen.
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NY passes laws that prioritize the rights of illegal immigrants. Mistake. But I guess you need illegal immigrants since native New Yorkers flood into Florida and other states. Unfortunate.
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He is a king now.
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Two thoughts:
1) NY needs to IMMEDIATELY file suit in Federal Court to stay this order.
2) 5th Ave (at least the block between 56th and 57th) needs to be renamed Barack Obama Boulevard as soon as possible.
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Trump also hates any cities that elect black representatives, talking about how they are "rat-infested" etc. My own city of Atlanta is one of them. Apparently he thinks only whites are intelligent enough to run a government properly, even though Trump himself is so illiterate that he can't read the Constitution.
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Another very good reason to dump the Trump.
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I beg to differ.
I understand how the NYTs has to pander to its NYC audience.
But NY is NOT first on the Trump Revenge list.
California is.......
And it now seems likely that Trump will win 52 electoral votes from California.
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Here we go again: vicious, nasty president seeks revenge on a blue state for perceived slights. Some lesson learned, Senator Collins. Maybe you’ll get schooled if he comes after Maine.
Meanwhile, I wouldn’t trust trump to travel a Brooklyn block in a golf cart.
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I would not have trusted the safety of Mother Theresa if she traveled a Brooklyn block in a golf cart.
Generally speaking NY deserves Trump. He is your creation. He came out of your corrupt system. He thrived while being a criminal in NYC because he is pretty average as corrupt and criminal business people go in NY. So, stop pretending that NY is upset by Trump, he is one of your own.
It's all about money and that is all. You often talk about how smart Trump is because you admire criminality in business people.
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I love New York. I would rather be on his revenge list than one of his sycophant.
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Fear and Loathing in D.C.
Yes payback time, where is my blacklist Barr, it's in your pocket Sir!
Laughable, not so much more like ominous.
“New Yorkers will not be targeted or bullied by an authoritarian thug,” Ms. James said.
That's right Leticia James!!!
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“In sanctuary cities, local officials order police to release dangerous criminal aliens to prey upon the public instead of handing them over to ICE to be safely removed,” Why at this point did not every Democrat yell you lie and get up and walk out? Why are people not challenging him on his daily lies?
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trump IS a dictator. We cannot lose our rights and we must be rid of him and his republican toadies as quickly as possible. Anyone okay with trump must consider what happens when he comes for them...and he will. trump has no conscience, no moral code.
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Fascism comes in many ways and shapes. It creeps swiftly into the public life, here a bit and there and tomorrow a bit and today. The leasurely plucking of a chick, feather by feather.
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Trump is a very rude,vindicate person .again he escaped for what he did because of the spineless Republicans in the Senate.Yesterday he spoke like a person who was out of his mind ,cursing,threatening every person who challenged him,this is the POTUS what a shame.
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Ahhh no penalty for Red States that defied the affordable care act, abortion rights, and environmental laws. We have a tantrum throwing baby running the country. remember that when you vote in November.
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It really looks like Bloomberg is our only hope to stop this insanity. The Ds are going to have to nominate him to put the good of the country before party, unlike what the Rs just did in putrid fashion.
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And so starts the tyranny. And all along you thought that southern border wall was only to keep people from entering the country. What if it’s also used to prevent (certain) people from leaving?
Russia, ...err...USSR, now led by Trump’s buddy and former USSR KGB man Putin, did just that to its own citizens and to citizens of its various satellite states.
So did the Nazis, after their first attempt at ethnic cleansing via forced deportation of Jewish populations didn’t quite do the trick. Prevented from leaving,, more than 10 million of people — Jewish (by which they meant having a single grandparent of Jewish heritage), Catholic, union members, disabled, non-hetero, and others — were annihilated and millions of others physically and psychologically injured as a result.
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Make no mistake. The slow incarnation of authoritarian rules and administrators to implement them from the top down, paired with the cult like following of the idiot in the White House, is concomitant with the apparatus restructure which occurred in Germany in the 1930's. A democratic republic fell then and it is happening to us now.
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Trump is an addict. His drug is hatred.
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Liberals wake up!!!! Many Americans are totally against illegal immigration, including giving driving licenses to these aliens. The local and state governments of these sanctuary hellholes are costing the taxpayers billions of dollars a year and affording illegal immigrants more protections under our laws than they give to Americans citizens. It is outrageous.
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That may well be the case, but what is needed in this country is a long conversation between both sides on immigration. This fear-mongering and retribution from the White House is hindering comprehensive immigration reform, not helping.
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First president of the USA with a Revenge list; Donald Trump our liar, cheater in chief.
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Haha, you 'vote' for fascists, you deserve the fascism. I never believed in America since I was about 6 and my immigrant dad came home beaten up by 'uh-mericans'.
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Nazi Germany everyone. Go back and read the history.
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This is clearly illegal and just another impeachable abuse of power. Moreover, its trumped-up rationale is false: Any serious crime, such as DUI, goes to the general criminal justice system and doesn't remain locked up in the bowels of the DMV.
Where's the lawsuit from Andrew Cuomo when we need one?
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This is how a dictatorship becomes normalised in America.
Remember the Germans took away the rights of Jews little by little.
Wake up America.
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The chance of another 4 years of this fascist maniac is appalling. Each day brings us another of his atrocities.
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The hysteria of the comments here are astounding. Sanctuary Cities and States not cooperating with the Feds on Global Entry qualifications of applicants. And you all think that is ok? Further you think the you are the target a dictator revenge and this is the beginning of the Fourth Reich! Crazy and hysterical.
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You don’t need a driver’s license for TTP Programs or a record in a state DMV database at all to qualify for them. The information being withheld is irrelevant to the program as undocumented immigrants in general cannot apply for these programs.
Withholding these travel privileges because of unrelated political differences hurts people like NY small business owners who have businesses that trade with Canada.
Longer border lines restrict trade and prevent quick access to markets to name just one of the unnecessary impediments to travel this is creating.
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@Mark V
No. Just the downfall of the English language, brought to us by Betsy DeVos.
Trump's State of the Union Address was filled with hate, division of people, and scapegoating of others. It reminded me of Adolph Hitler's incoherent hateful writings in Mein Kampf, and was delivered with the same poisonous spiteful look on Trump's face. I knew the moment that the cowards in the Republican Senate delivered their acquittal of Trump with their sham trial in front of the Chief Justice of the United States, that Trump would start his rampage of revenge against the defenders of the Constitution and decent people who have empathy for others over "trumped" up charges. These same techniques were used by the Nazi's in the 1930's and are being used currently by Putin to suppress his adversaries. Trump's revenge tactics have been taken from the textbook of dictators and fascists.
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We disagree with state policies that grant non-citizens, and certainly people who don’t have authorized permanent residency in the country, the same driver licenses /state-issued identification as US citizens and, perhaps, authorized permanent residents. Particularly since, in many instances and practically speaking, it is those documents that end up being used in lieu of a national identification for determining all sorts of rights, privileges, and responsibilities of bona fide US citizens.
Our friends who are in the U.S. but who don’t have U.S. citizenship could easily have their driving skills and knowledge of U.S. and state motor vehicle law tested and certified to drive on our roads (ie, the purpose of a DL) and/or be recognized as being a resident of a given state by applying for and receiving a color- or otherwise-coded card from that issued to citizens. It would be similar to how many countries grant a different colored passport to long-lost expats from their nation who after years off the proverbial radar and who, having aged and changed in appearance, now seek repatriation or a passport but cannot immediately establish that they are who they say they are (ad we have seen happen).
All that said, it is wrong, and likely illegal / unconstitutional for all of the residents, including the majority who are undoubtedly US citizens, to be singled out and denied something important because of the wrong-doing of only some, all of the latter being non-citizens.
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Withholding from one state a federal government service that is afforded to all 49 other states is the very definition of unconstitutional.
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Isn’t that what the Federal Government does when it mandates DWI standards and speed limits? The Real ID program per se tells the states the standards a state must follow if a holder can use it to access federally supervised service, i.e. air travel.
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Slowly but surely Trump is overhauling every system in the United States to adhere to his wishes and that of an administration akin to fascism masked in patriotism.
My parents grew up in fascist Italy. My mother was convinced that it was an ideal government. My father on the other hand saw right through it and suffered many consequences and restrictions of that government that to this day makes the Italian government unstable and chaotic since his reign of terror.
Our only hope is that New York's attorney general will fight for rights of our state, that we can indeed pass our own laws in defiance of these federal restrictions which will no doubt spread not only to sanctuary cities but to the entire country if left unchecked.
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Had a nice conversation with a gentleman the other day. We talked about Kobe, the Super Bowl, small towns and the often amazing juxtaposition of ecosystems in southern California. When I asked the nice fellow where he was from, for the first time in the fifteen minutes I was talking to him, he looked away and fell sheepish, and reluctantly said, Back east. Yeah, from where, I asked. Uh, New York. New York City? Yeah, the city. When we parted, I felt bad for the man that he thought he might be talking to the enemy. My fellow Americans, this is what that devil of a man, DJ trump is doing to us. Stop this civil war right now. We must all get together again as a nation, love one another and vote this cancer out of our system. It might be our last chance for a good long while.
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He just didn’t want you to think he was automatically a jerk. People around the country rank NYC residents as near the top in rankings for being obnoxious and rude. The sad thing is many NYC residents take pride in those rankings. I doubt anyone from CA thinks of someone from NY as an enemy unless you were also a Yankee fan.
@Otis Opse
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Yup. When motivated by spite, vengeance and/or greed, Republicans can act swiftly decisively & effectively. Too bad they can't focus some of their angry energy on stuff that is actually vital to the well being of most Americans. Stuff like climate change, infrastructure repair/improvement, affordable quality healthcare & affordable quality education.
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Trump is also attacking the survivors of the 2018 inferno in Paradise, California, and the 2017 wildfires in the Bay Area.
It is ironic that a lot of Trumpers used to live in Paradise, which is in a more conservative part of California. So the Trump administration is mainly hurting its own.
PG&E, the utility in Northern California, has admitted liability and has also offered approximately 14 billion to settle claims by wildfire victims.
However, for the first time in its history, FEMA is demanding a large part of the victims' settlement, claiming it must be reimbursed for its disaster assistance efforts.
This, despite the fact that many of the Paradise fire victims were uninsured, and most of the victims of all of the wildfires were underinsured.
FEMA granted no assistance funds to numerous victims of the wildfires. This was especially true of Paradise.
So victims who received no financial support from FEMA, for whatever reason, are being asked to give up part of their claim against PG&E to reimbursed FEMA.
The victims' lawyers are battling FEMA in the bankruptcy court. At the least, they are asking that FEMA's reimbursement come from a settlement fund other than the victims'.
This punitive action by FEMA is apparently aimed at California, since such reimbursement has never before been attempted.
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This may be a blessing in disguise.
The public does not get too upset if Trump takes autocratic steps that don't effect them personally. The "Quid pro Quo" with Ukraine, hollowing out the Departments of State, or Justice, or his verbal assault on the media, the FBI, CIA, and "Deep State" don't harm most people.
But attacking citizens of blue states directly, which also harms Republicans in those states, does harm people directly. More importantly, people in those states will see that they have been targeted for revenge by Trump. (Capping the SALT tax deduction was an attack on citizens of CA, NY, and NJ but the Democrats never emphasized that.) That could create a backlash.
People get mad when they're targeted. Angry people vote.
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There was an early indicator of this sort of blowback with tax reform. The so-called SALT cap - where previously unlimited deductions are now max'd out at $10k.
Now if you live in a Red state w/ low real estate values, this may not mean much to you; but, if you live in a Blue State (that did not go for T in the 2016 election), your real estate and other deductions have been > $10k since pretty much forever.
This SALT cap hits hard, right where it counts.
Any tax professional worth their salt (pun intended) will admit this is basically payback for not going with t in the election.
As for GOES, it can be expected that California and other states will soon join NY on that list of non-renewal to the program.
CA has Sanctuary cities as well.
Haven't any stats to back this up, but it can be expected that people in Blue states travel internationally in greater numbers than Red states. Likely the program means more to Blue states than Red.
Can we expect more of these sorts of seemingly petty but important paybacks from this admin?
It's who he is.
In his blood.
He has been given the green light to do as he pleases.
And thus he shall punish as it pleases.
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Sanctuary cities are not the issue. That term is really meaningless. NYS has barred federal access to its DMV records. That action is very different. Hopefully CA would not take such an ill-thought out decision.
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I deeply loathe Trump and all he stands for. But I am somewhat confused by the reporting on the Global Entry program. As I understand it, the element of the New York law that DHS has focused on is the prohibition of access to the New York DMV database without a court order. I am a native-born U.S. citizen with a U.S. passport. While I have never been a New York resident or held a New York driver's license, my New York driving record was highly relevant to my Global Entry approval process. In 1990, I received two speeding tickets within a short period of time at "speed traps" in northern New York State. At my Global Entry interview in 2013, the CBP officer quizzed me extensively on these speeding tickets, and told me that they showed "disrespect for the law." While I was granted Global Entry, there was initially some kind of limitation placed on my membership because of these infractions. So based on my personal experience, DHS access to New York State driving records is in fact relevant to the approval process. That said, I would think that a workaround to the New York legislation could be devised to permit access to DMV records for the limited purpose of Trusted Traveler programs (to which no sane undocumented person would ever apply anyway).
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I have an idea. The next time Trump is in NYC, for any reason, let the Federal government supply the security. NYC and the NYPD should refuse to provide ANY security, unless the Federal government pays for it UP FRONT. None of this "we'll pay you later." And every city and state and city across the nation, that Trump has targeted, should do the same.
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This ruling has Stephen Miller written all over it. Trump would have no knowledge of the process of Global Entry. I can imagine the proposal and enthusiastic acceptance. Perhaps this is an example of Miller's carte blanche authority.
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Stop blaming others for the actions of this despicable, alliterate, amoral, narcissistic excuse for a man. He just surrounds himself with his like, except they read so they’re ahead of him
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@Harpo Or maybe we should call it "carte noire" authority.
When a ruler oppresses their naysayers, he backs them into a corner and deprives them of an honorable retreat. The First Amendment was added to prevent rulers from making that mistake. Rulers have to respect their naysayers or their naysayers will rebel and become ungovernable. What Trump is doing is proving that he is right, that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a single vote. He has just shot himself in the foot and has not lost a single vote in New York.
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As a New Jersey resident, this move echoes the Chris Christie Bridgegate scandal where Christie’s minions shut down local access lanes to the GW Bridge to punish the Democratic mayor of Ft. Lee for not supporting him. Lost in the idiotic retribution was the realization that they were also inconveniencing plenty of Republican commuters and Christie supporters as well.
So spiteful are they that they will punish supporters and foes alike in their blind vindictiveness. Truly disgusting behavior. I hope at least as many Republican voters are inconvenienced by this move as are Democrats.
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We do not know yet, but as of two weeks ago, smart money was on Supreme Court tossing the prosecution’s theory of wrong in that case.
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@Rob Kadar It's not long until they come after New Jersey residents as well.
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@Rob Kadar
In this case, this can cause delays at NY airports, which serve the whole US - - while Bridgegate was "local" (tho' a big local area), Trump is willing to mess with anyone using NY airports. When you increase congestion ( and deliberately!) , it spreads to affect everyone else trying to make their way through airport security ... What petty idiocy! But never fear, anther woman is out to get him - Letitia James is on the case.
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Make no mistake – there is nothing in the Green Light Law that prevents the DHS from properly vetting travelers into the various Trusted Traveler Programs. It is simply another way the Trump administration wishes to further its own political agenda by bullying all those who oppose it into submission. In this case, it's because New York does not wish to support ICE from accessing DMV records without a court order. Whether you agree with this or not is besides the point – this is simply another time that this Administration is willing to enact punitive measures to accomplish its goals.
This is nothing but a form of extortion.
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@Srineeth Extortion is defined in 18 United States Code in Chapter 41. What the evidence adduced so far is proof of Trump extorting Ukraine.
Now the entire GOP is a protection racket.
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@Longue Carabine
States’ rights.
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@Srineeth
It is also a violation of the Constitution. Article IV Section 2 provides that "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states." You can't get much clearer than that. So, more evidence of Trump and the Republicans' total disregard for the law and the constitution. The New York Attorney General should move for an immediate injunction and to have it enforced with criminal contempt if it is violated.
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It’s highly political on both sides. If Obama was president, the green light law probably wouldn’t have included the ban on access to the DMV database. There are two fundamental issues at stake here that our legislative branch hasn’t resolved: 1) comprehensive immigration reform and; 2) privacy. Until those two are widely discussed and modern approach prevails, we’ll keep seeing polarization in situations like this. Trump administration is determined to hurt New Yorkers and they can. So here’s where politics should be at work: I think providing driver’s license to undocumented should remain, but banning access to DMV should be reversed. Unfortunately, Trump might be president for 4 more years, so politicians need to be more pragmatic and learn how to deal with them without unnecessarily hurting New Yorkers.
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Back in the day when the King of England and his nobles (essentially his revenue base) disagreed, the noble's power of the purse was excellent leverage for negotiating compromises. SInce tRump feels he is now king, maybe the gross contributors - looking at you New York - to federal funds should consider following this example.
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I'm starting to get pretty scared.
The Democratic nominating contest is starting to look like Bernie Sanders vs. Mike Bloomberg. I don't think either of them stand a chance against Trump, and I think either would hurt down-ballot Democrats.
What could Trump do with 4 more years, and potentially a united Republican government?
Well, America, it's been a pretty good run...
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Trump, like many Americans, does not understand what a "sanctuary" city mean. It does not mean that an undocumented immigrant is suddenly a "legal" immigrant. It merely means that local police or other government officials will not assist ICE in detentions or notify them. It means that an undocumented person can feel free to report a crime or other violation without fear of being punished for their immigration status. It makes a community safer.
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NY residents should withhold their federal tax dollars until this despotic man and party start treating us as equal. NY state is one of the original 13 states that formed this union. Our tax dollars are plentiful and we get precious little back from the federal purse, even though our state and CA are hugely important for GDP, innovation and the federal budget. Since Ronald Regan, the GOP has wanted to starve the governments of funds to end programs that it deems "socialist". Let us do our part and help them, a quick swift kick might get them to see matters in the correct light, as taxes were at the centre of the first revolution. Just another example of "taxation without representation".
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@Kevin This should be the plan of action every time Trump or other confused Republicans make threats such as these. When Trump says things like cutting off "Federal Funding" he's completely unaware that the places he's threatening are always the greatest sources of that funding.
Once again, a failure to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. It has been his failing from the beginning. It remains to be seen whether the courts, our last hope for fairness, will accept these farcical, transparent, sometimes contradictory rationales for revenge, voter suppression, stonewalling investigations .....’let me count the ways’.
And the Senate made it possible. And Senators, when he comes for you?
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So much for the argument from Susan Collins that Trump has learned a "pretty big lesson", and would somehow be on the straight and narrow path. Just 24 hours after acquittal, and the abuses of power are even more flagrant.
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@The Buddy
How many times have Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and yes, even Mitt Romney dangled bipartisanship and that they would do the right thing only to be reeled back in by McConnell. It makes me wonder about them and their intentions. They just say pretty words that people want to hear and so desperately want to believe for the sake of our country but in the end they are back to kissing a.. and enabling Trump who becomes more dangerous to our country and the world each day.
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This directive seems to be totally unconstitutional violating both Article I Section 9 that ensures all ports of entry must be treated equally, and Amendment 14 guaranteeing equal protection under the law.
Punishing the citizens of a state individually in a Federal act also violates the spirit of the Constitution. While punishing state governments is one thing, even when it affects the individual citizens, but specifically barring citizens from Global Entry simply for being residents of a particular state is no different than denying them passports for that reason, which, I'm betting, is next on Trump's list of retributions.
I urge NY AG James to IMMEDIATELY file for an injunction and TRO to block this policy and fast-track it to the SCOTUS for review.
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Exaggerating the perils of vaguely defined enemies within is a central tactic of Facsism. Remember when people feared the "Red under the Bed"? Trump is preparing the terms of the election "converstaion". He's pushing people towards panic. That's the best way to get enough votes for re-election. He knows that a less extreme tactic will give people the time to think about impeachment, what led up to it, and how the GOP acted to protect him.
Watch out. Trumpism is edging towards declaration of a "national emerghencey" of some kind. One that will justify suspending election in 2024.
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The problem with most sanctuary cities and states, is they treat aliens better than ordinary citizens. Charges are dropped, or reduced to avoid deportation. No auto insurance, no problem. In most states, they write a ticket, then they tow your car. No insurance, no getting the car back. Some judges are helping defendants sneak out a basement door to avoid arrest by ICE agents. These cities and states are creating laws to obstruct federal agents. Why wouldn’t the Federal Government retaliate appropriately?
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Can you provide evidence for any of these claims? Because I’m looking and not finding it.
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@Jay thank you Jay. for stating the obvious. For many of us, the dems failure to enforce our country's immigration laws is what has turned us to Trump.
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If the federal government retaliated appropriately, we would have new immigration law reforms. But that might mean the Senate would have to actually....deliberate, compromise, realize immigration problems are multi-pronged. One racist, paranoid fantasy does not fit all the problems.
Frankly, this is fine. I am perfectly OK with Republicans setting the precedent where a President actively attempts to harm states that don't fall into line with his policies.
That means, that when a Democrat takes the White House, we will be able to cut off all the subsidies that flow from places like New York and California to failing Red States to prop up their massive budget deficits. Let places like Kansas and Alabama pull themselves up by their bootstraps, instead of basing their entire state budget on handouts from liberals.
And if they whine about it? Boo hoo, you all set this precedent. Now you have to live with it.
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Correct.
It is very beautiful to behold how Trump singlehandedly transformed middle America into card carrying socialists — socialists who will be starving if not for the dole outs from us librul coastal elites.
Cuomo is willing to endanger us all to demonstrate he is tougher than Trump. And so are more than a few of his devotees. There are none so blind.
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@Susan
Appeasement didn't stop Hitler. Perhaps Cuomo is standing on principal and standing up for our democracy and not caving to a despotic bully paving the way to fascism.
I am reading Laurence Rees The Holocaust: A New History. In the section covering Germany from 1933 to 1938, I am finding too many frightening parallels to our time. The treatment of New Yorkers in the TTP system has echoes back to that time. The lies, the sycophants, the increasing climate of fear, all seem entirely too familiar. It is time to stand up to this tyranny before it is too late. We have seen what happens when a society doesn't do so.
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Trump is behaving like all dictatorial thugs.
I live in CA and he is always going after us. He has even gone so far as to lower the standards for car emissions that CA has. We used to be covered with smog, but we were able to eliminate a great deal of that through our car standards. He wants to send us back to the days of smog everywhere. Pure spite.
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I read elsewhere n the NYT that a DHS spokesperson said it was essential for security to check the DMV database for cases of drug use and DUI's? This seems like ridiculous mission creep. How are drug use and DUI related to national security?
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@PJ for real, you do not see the direct connection?
The answer to Trump's vindictiveness is to up the ante: George Soros, Mike Bloomberg and Tom Steyer should buy up all the property surrounding Trump's homes, especially Mar-a-Lago. Then bring people Trump has sought to marginalize--immigrants, African Americans, Hispanics and Muslims--to live there, so he has to see them every day. And then do the same to Donald Jr. and Ivanka and Jared. (Nobody cares about Eric, so don't bother with him.)
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When it was disclosed that Nixon had 20 people secretly on his "enemies list," it was a bombshell. Today, the majority of Americans are openly on the President's "enemies list." This is "Political Retribution" at 5G.
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If you had any doubts, we are now living in a dictatorship. No wonder Donald John Trump is in love with Kim Jung-Un. What’s next? Military parades and goose-stepping soldiers? Oh, yes, we already had the tanks on display. We’ll soon see whether the men and women in uniform can goose step.
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Look, neither NYC nor any state or city should be allowing illegal aliens to even be here much less have the ability to drive, what’s next ? The right to vote? Free education? Free healthcare.? This is getting crazy. And this is another reason why Trump has struck a cord in this country which your editorial board seem to have missed. This country is set up to primarily take care of its own citizens, not the entire world. The message is, if you’re not here legally, you will have no rights and you will be sent back, period. How many instances of illegals committing crimes must go on? Even one crime by them is one too many. We are entering a period of completely chaotic thinking and most of America doesn’t buy it.
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@Brian Kenney "If you’re not here legally..." Aye, there's the rub.
"Legal" is whatever the words on a piece of paper say it is. It is easy to rewrite the rules to keep out people you don't like. That's happened more than once in the USA, and also in Canada, Australia, etc. Eventually, most of those exclusionary rules were rescinded, only to be replaced with new ones.
Bottom line: "If you're not here leaglly" is and always has been a moving target. It's a convenient way of avoiding theh ethical and moral questions around keeping people out.
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New York has no power to remove illegal aliens. And Trump, for all his noise and bluster, hasn’t deported all that many, either. Sadly, he has chosen to focus on those best integrated, those who registered with Immigration and showed up annually to report their whereabouts, people who’ve been here for decades, people with families, causing no trouble whatever. Instead of deporting criminals, ICE lies in wait at courthouses to arrest people honoring their legal obligations.
The fact that Trump hasn’t solved the immigration problem — or even seriously tried — is proof he and Republican politicians generally don’t want to solve it. They prefer collecting votes from people like you who want the problem solved, and who don’t understand the problem is useful only while it still exists. If they fixed it, would you keep voting for them out of gratitude?
Meanwhile, it’s not a problem. Illegal aliens are indistinguishable from legal aliens in most ways. They uprooted their lives and left family behind, seeking a better life here.
Why not let them stay? Contra your assertion, they pay taxes. They’re funding schools and roads and social security and welfare as much as anyone. Make them legal noncitizen residents, and turn the page.
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@Wolf Kirchmeir Not sure what you're talking about -Pretty sure your ancestors came here in accordance with the rules at the time -that's what the "rule of law" really means, doesn't it?
Make no mistake. This was as much a shot at Nadler as anything. Utah (aka Mitt Romney) got smacked today by the bully in the White House, too. He’s going after their National Parks. California (ie Schiff and Pelosi) will be next. Probably over their ability to control emissions, or maybe federal aid for victims of the wild fires. But it will definitely be something designed to inflict pain on the people of California. Trump is a nasty, vindictive man and now that he knows no one will stop him, we are all in for a world of hurt.
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Honestly, you'd think the man had no idea he was supposed to be the President of all Americans, not just the ones who voted for him.
Oh wait...
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Every time I see one of these stories about Trump’s “estranged relationship with New York,” and his resorting to petty spite and revenge to deal with his massive insecurity about it, I’m reminded of something a fellow train-traveler told me years ago: “There’s a reason Trump lost New York by more than twenty points; we knew the dude!”
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Appalling and despicable. It's a reminder that we shouldn't underestimate the depravity of the GOP and their tyrannical nature.
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@Paul R S Hope there's not a next time that an illegal alien or terrorist gets on a plane using a phony driver's license from NYS, or any state for that matter. Depravity? What are you talking about? I call it safety and following the law.
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probably should have thought about ramifications before ridiculous policy decisions....
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Take your complaint to the ballot box. VOTE! Contribute to the campaign of your choice, volunteer. Don't just complain- put your pocketbook, your time, and your VOTE where it counts!
2020 is here. Your want him out? Put your money and your time behind your desire. VOTE this November- and encourage all your friends and neighbors to vote also !!!
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Trump has divided us.
Let's finish the job by seceding.
We'll have different laws for blue, red, and purple states.
This is the only way we can show the republicans that their destruction cuts both ways, and not what they expected.
As big a mess secession will be, it's still better than an absolutely corrupt and fascist theocratic regime.
I think we're naive to think things will work out come November.
The fix is being worked on as I type, I'm sure.
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It’s the right call. I do not want a terrorist going through security unchecked.
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@Pjlit He's blocking people who live in New York. Can you cite any cases (or propose a reasonable scenario) in which terrorists who reside in New York flew somewhere else to do terrorist acts?
I think we are witnessing this week the beginning of the Second Civil War.
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I read a quote today that, although from a book of fiction, applies to Trump and the spineless Senators who acquitted him.
Maybe all powerful men are cowards at heart, because in their hearts they know power is temporary.
The line is from "The Ten Thousand Doors of January" by Alix E. Harrow.
Take heart, everybody, Trump's and the Republican's power is only temporary.
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New York City is everything Donald Trump hates - It is multi-cultural, multi-lingual, multi-racial and doesn’t just tolerate difference, it celebrates it. And if ordinary New Yorkers often disagree loudly and passionately with each other on all kinds of subjects, when the chips are down they come together and from past experience- always on the side of the underdog, the downtrodden and against the abuse of authority.
Donald Trump can try all he likes to stuff his homogenous, intolerant “white bread” version of America down the throats of New Yorkers- they’re having none of it!
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I am waiting for Trump and his enablers to penalize states that allow migrants to use common drinking fountains, public toilets, public infrastructure, schools, libraries Or to penalize those states that allow migrants to sit in the front of the bus History repeats itself. Nothing coming out of this corrupt administration surprises me anymore.
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In addition to the White House's retaliation against New York, I read today that Utah's GOP is considering censuring Mitt Romney for his impeachment vote.
We now live in a country where if you don't bend the knee to our would-be king, you will suffer consequences.
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Trump may well be the only president ever impeached twice. Nothing prevents an honest and ethical Congress from bringing further charges of abuse of power against this tyrant.
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Isn't harming the citizens of a state to get them to pressure their government terrorism?
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Most likely aimed at inconveniencing immigrants and international travellers be creating chaos at NY airports. Next it will be a departure tax.
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Seems to me this is a slam dunk legal challenge.
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US citizens can apply for a passport. This is just making travel more difficult for many people. This vindictive president must stay awake at night thinking up ways to make life in the US worse.
I can hardly wait for Mar a Lago to go underwater.
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Let's face it, the message from Trump and the Republicans is that if you are shot by an American that's all right under the 2nd Amendment. The only time they care is if you are shot by an immigrant.
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What a coincidence. Trump is first on my list. He won't be able to enroll on any travel list when he's convicted and sent to Sing Sing.
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Revenge against New Yorkers? Then let Trump focus his attention on Michael Bloomberg. He is one New Yorker who knows Trump better than anyone and will win against this tyrant.
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Gov. Andrew Cuomo,
Please release Trump’s tax returns so the rest of the word can finally see what New Yorkers have known all along — that Trump is a tax cheat and is currently bankrupt.
Thank you.
— A New Yorker, US citizen, taxpayer, and voter
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Global Entry has been a blessing. Now our (wife and my) renewals (and we've already paid our $100 each) and our "conditional approval" and our plan to, following Homeland Security instructions, get final approval and five year extensions on our next trip through JFK coming back to the USA, are dismissed by a Trump temper tantrum combined with a Cuomo sanctuary state policy.
Can we vote them BOTH out of office??
Meantime, NYT staff, could you check and see if our (and everyone else's) $100 payments will be refunded?
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I'm tired of hearing that Trump is some sort of political genius who masterfully outthinks his opponents. He's just a big baby backed by adults who should know better, but keep giving in to his tantrums.
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I love this policy. New York places illegals over their citizens, and is then surprised when it has consequences. Boo hoo
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When New York State diverts time and funds to poke and poke into the President's finances that is not retribution. But when the White House takes steps to thwart New York's breaching of federal laws that protects US citizens against the a priori crime of illegal immigration, and further crimes that result from such breaking and entry in the US -- not to mention the enormous financial burden of providing services to illegal aliens -- that is called "retribution" by the New York Times. The prejudice and double standard here comes as no surprise. Sanctimonious self-righteousness is the common denominator shared by anti-Trump politicians and media. And, as we see with increasing clarity, such relentless anti-Trump hatred is highly effective ... in fortifying Trump, increasing his popularity, and virtually guarantying a Republican grand slam come November.
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Well this is just another example of us getting what we deserve for electing a professional clown. I just re-read the oath of office he signed and it is very revealing. There is a clause that qualifies his promise to protect, etc. the Constitution. The limiting clause is “to the best of my ability.” We really couldn’t expect him to be convicted of his abuses- he is a habitual liar, bully, charlatan, megalomaniac, and sociopath. His true defense is “But you knew I was a snake. Under those circumstances, I did what I know in the way I always do, so why do you expect more of me?”
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We can choose to interpret the temporary inconvenience as a gift we give to others, so they can have a more secure life.
We can choose to interpret our brief sacrifice of time to hold vigil to all the horrors and violence that drive immigrants from their homes to come to the shelter and safety of New York
We can give those few extra minutes of our time as support of another person’s dignity and opportunity
Of course ‘they’ mean it for evil, but we can use it for good.
We New Yorkers accept the unfairness and injustice of the ‘punishment’ with pride, we stand tall as Customs dallies - we have apparently ‘earned’ this because we choose to give others a better chance
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The representatives of 18 million more Americans voted to remove him from office due to his impeachment than represented by who voted for him.
And now we are seeing more impeachable offenses as related in this article.
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it's getting difficult to tell the difference between the treatment of citizens by the US federal government and the central governments of China and Russia, isn't it?
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I, for one, am terrified. This new move against New York will possibly go down in history as the beginning of the second civil war in this country. He literally just split the country in two - separate legal status for those who support him and those who oppose him. Unless this megalomaniac is stopped, he is marching this country straight toward a fascist dictatorship, and there will be no way to save the US as we know it. The problem is not just the man at the top - it is the fever he induces in almost half of the population.
Pray that the fabric of our legal system still operates sufficiently to check this takeover, and that there are still enough heroes to defend democracy in the courts; the only alternative is to defend it in the streets.
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There are times when we don't really know "who is who". People seem friendly and nice, and maybe even intelligent, but there is something about them that makes us hesitant. In some ways, those are the worst of times. And then there are times like now. Maybe "closet Trump supporters" exist, but most of them are are "out of the closet", and quite ready to publicly proclaim their support of Trump, and we aren't "hesitant". We just know, quite clearly, that we have no respect for them. In some ways, times like now, they are the best of times.
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He knows he won't get any electoral votes out of New York so he is punishing them, as he does with Republicans who step out of line - California is next.
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At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump issued an Executive Oder for the USPS to stop delivering mail in New York State. Could he do that? That would be a Federal crime, I believe, so he probably wouldn’t.
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It’s probably not a “federal crime” because Congress doesn’t generally pass laws that virtually no one can break. Only Trump can issue “Executive Orders.” The mechanism for policing that power is impeachment, which requires no crime to be committed. Your example highlights WHY impeachment doesn’t require proving a violation of any statute.
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@Matt
Right, I was thinking of U.S. Postal Statues. But back in the early days when there were so called guardrails, there were some leaks about all the crazy stuff that those who were being criticized for working for him said they were stopping. Wonder if Trump jumps out of whatever little sleeps they say he gets muttering, ‘Shouldna fired Kelly, shouldna fired Kelly!”.
As long as the Trump family remains in office, vendettas will be enacted. Trump will find every last person who was 'unfair' to him with the aid of militarized police forces. He will not leave the WH nor will his family. Ivanka plans to be president and has secured a trademark for voting machines. Don jr is also planning on sitting in the Oval Office and is tussling with his sister over who is first. Equally as petty as Daddy, we are in for a very long nightmare.
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In his 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc term, the vengeance will be like we've seen in the most brutal dictatorships: all political enemies - and news media - crushed, jailed, exiled or killed. It's who Trump is (and what the GOP craves - consciously or subconsciously).
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Whatever the cost, do not comply. The Senate has no backbone, but we do. Resist.
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Sticking to NYers is popular in rural areas. So will the next Trump Tower be built in a corn field? At 73, Trump himself may not be concerned with that future but his family business should be. Or do they plan to infest the White House forever?
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To the victor belongs the spoils. Next election, maybe people will actually vote.
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Well, what should we expect. Trump is unchained, with no checks and balances from Congress or the courts.
I hope blue states, including California and New York, take every declaration by the Trump regime to court in order to delay enforcement for as long as possible.
Push back, states,
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"...the president is a man of conviction."
For the sake of the country, let's hope his conviction carries a lifetime sentence.
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A man of conviction? If only.... the Senate didn't even have the guts to convict someone that obscenely self-serving? I suppose his commitment to inflicting harm, petty and monumental on any who oppose him is one for the record books.
Here's praying this election makes sure it can ONLY be found in the record books.
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Democrats had at least 3,000,000 more votes in the last election meaning that at this point the minority is ruling over the majority. I call this a dictatorship and taxation without representation. Plain and simple. Blue states should refuse to pay into the fed coffers.
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Eventually, pressure from within New York State will force Governor Slapdash and his soldiers in the legislature to change their tune.
It will be interesting to see if NY Staters mount their own pressure on their legislators to relieve the human rights crisis created by sanctuary city status and the recent get-out-of-jail-free-and-murder-all-the-witnesses law.
We knew this would happen, acquittal and then 'Political retribution.'
djt has managed to dodge the multiple criminal charges awaiting him by the SDNY. The very thing that fuels is rage and keeps him awake at night. New York , California and Blue states are his target.
He is a man loyal to one thing and one thing only, his personal survival. He is a man without a country, a dangerous and rage full human. The GOP has handed over the power to destroy all that do not fall in line.
Our country's only hope of survival is a democratic win 11-3-2020.
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Yes, this action is blatant retribution and, I suspect, will be found illegal by what's left of an independent judiciary.
But it is just as true that the obnoxious "sanctuary cities" are thumbing their noses at our immigration laws.
I do not for a moment condone Trump's thuggish extortion, but any fair examination of this issue has to acknowledge that the sanctuary cities are wrong as well.
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It won't be long before all 'blue states' will be barred from this program. Then what will he want to do to Democrats? Will he take away federal funding from their 'government' schools? Or highway funding? What next?
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New Yorkers, might I suggest one way to get even? Trump lived in New York most of his life; so he’s left a paper trail a mile wide, not to mention phone calls, video tape, photographs, and interactions with thousands of people. Somewhere in all that pile is OPPOSITION RESEARCH GOLD—information or images that could really damage Trump’s carefully crafted image. I know Trump looks invincible now; but almost every tyrant or army or political system looks invincible—until they’re not. (Remember the Soviet Union?) It’s like a balloon; one weak spot, one encounter with a very small pin, and the air leaks out, possibly very suddenly. (Better yet, of course, lots of small pins, or a few big ones.)
So, New Yorkers, there’s probably something you already know that, turned over to the Times (or the New York Post, Politico, even People Magazine) could put a conspicuous hole in Trump’s balloon. Down here in the DMV, we’re doing our best to dig up dirt; but Trump is a very recent transplant to Washington. You New Yorkers have a much better chance of finding something relevant. Good luck—we’re all rooting for you!
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He also went after Utah today -- opening new protected lands to drilling, mining, fracking.
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It’s unconstitutional. It won’t stand, but making NY State fight his administration is definitely retribution. This is so petty. He is only going to get worse.
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No, the Constitution grants Feds total authority in matters that involve border crossings. Global Entry is an elective program that waives certain Fed mandated processes. Why would any court say Feds do not control this procedure?
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I aspired to be first on Trump's enemies list. I guess I have more work to do.
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California ranks just as high, I think. In fact, it's the great monster that threatens Trump the most. California's voters are too numerous to let him win the popular vote. California looks like America will in 2050, 1/3 white, 1/3 Latino, and 1/3 everything else. That's what terrorizes so many Republicans.
California is the economic engine of America, yet even Californians are embarrassed to embrace that. But ya'll know it. Trump trembles when he thinks of northern California, home of his nemesis Pelosi, where people so much richer than him barely pay attention to him.
Trump, like all petty tyrants, will self-destruct. There's a pretty good chance California will have something to do with it. Maybe New York too.
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The NYT and its readers romanticize the idea of illegal immigration, refusing to accept that 2 things.
1. A few illegal immigrants are charming and worth protecting, but when MILLIONS are gaming the system, taking advantage of the American generosity, as it happens, there is a national and state problem (for schools, ER rooms, driving, etc).
2. Not all illegal immigrants are perfect citizens. A good percentage of them are not. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that just 1 percent of these millions are bad, the Democrats and the NYT make the value judgment that the lives of some American citizens are worth losing and risking for the sake of importing million unvetted people. I am uncomfortable with this value judgment, and I don't think the Democrats and the NYT should decide something like this for me only because in the major cities the Democrats win by default and practically we live under a one-party system.
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Wouldn't it be delicious if once Trump is out of office, the SDNY proceeds with criminal cases against him? I don't think Joe Biden will be giving him a pardon.
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"If you (New York) wish to hold firewood for the masses (and not cooperate with law enforcement), then be prepared to stand and freeze in the wind and the snow."
Yeah well, guess what. I'm a New Yorker, and while I've never bothered to use this 'trusted traveler program' thing, Trump is first on my revenge list. Him, and all those who support him. I will be opposed to trumpism for the rest of my life, and will never miss an opportunity to say bad things about him (although here on the NYT pages, 70% of those things will be blocked).
So fine, he wants to make travel for me tougher, I will do my best to make sure he is never welcome in NYC again. After he's president, he should find some other place to retire, because I'm going to make certain he would not feel comfortable here. Same goes for all his supporters. I'm happy to help a tourist with directions, but if they're wearing a red MAGA hat, they're lucky if I pass by them without comment. Often I announce to the general vicinity what a horrible person they are, did so just the other day on 7th Avenue during my commute.
So Trump, you want war with your hometown, you've got it. Too bad it's not like Iran where both sides can just back down and forget it ever happened.
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does this go back to the banks refusing to do business with trump?
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Good for Trump. He's the president, he has the power to enforce immigration laws. Maybe New York and California *should* "back down", ever conside that?
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I expect lawsuits to follow - fepriving private citizens of their rights including free speech. Will the Supreme Court back Trump? Probably. John Roberts was a puppet in the Senate - he joins Barr in dancing to the McConnell and Grassley tunes. The US joins the third world despots in his vindictive nature. How do evangelicals feel about a Prayer Breakfast being turned in to one of his vitriolic tirades - and did anyone leave? No too cowed to show moral courage.
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Seems like a lot of uproar over a program that I bet most New Yorkers never heard of.
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What are you talking about? Tons of people depend on the program, especially those who live in major international transportation hubs like NY.
Why do sanctuary cities believe they are above the law?
Why do cities, or states, believe they have the right to pronounce immigration laws? de facto, they are trying to write federal immigration law by blocking or honoring written law.
How can the federal government employees trust the IDs presented by New York residents when the ID issuing authorities are deliberately circumventing safe ID laws by issuing to known illegals?
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Mr Trump is endlessly hurtful. When he acts to hobble productivity of the country's most powerful economic regions how can anyone imagine this is good? Hey. Maybe the folks in Mississippi would like emotionally to finally win a war against New York but can ANYONE seriously remotely imagine this is good? Mt Trump is endlessly poisonous against progressive elements in his own society, against all the country's traditional allies that are too progressive, even as he embraces the most poisonous foreign elements everywhere on the globe. That there is any possibility such a monstrous individual is a strong contender for re-election is an indictment of the incredible corrupting power of Mark Zuckerberg and Rupert Murdoch. There is something very wrong with a world where two self interested and immoral businessmen can do so much damage internationally and pose such a very real threat to civilization as a whole. So many good people seem to count for nothing in comparison.
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Since Trump was elected, NY, San Francisco, and other liberal bastions have been going out of their way to put a thumb in Trump’s eye.
Do expect him to say, “Thank you, may I have another?”
Of course not.
So why, after three years of flouting immigration laws and trying to have him removed from office, should you expect anything less?
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One more reason to leave the hassle riddled NY State. Cuomo has turned this place into a exercise in misery. The MTA, the State income tax, the crime, the new crime laws, the protection and paying for criminals and illegals, when will it stop? I'm leaving for a better life after three generations here. My kids already left. Cuomo has turned it into a cloaca of offense.
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Customs and Border Protection conducts rigorous background checks on all Trusted Traveler Program applicants. The background checks are what gives some travelers trusted traveler status. CPB relied on its access to New York DMV records to screen New York applicants. New York’s new Driver's License Access and Privacy Act precludes this. New York needs to modify the act to allow CPB access to DMV records of New Yorkers who apply for the Trusted Traveler Program. New Yorkers who value their privacy over expedited passage through airport secret and immigration can stand in line with the rest of us.
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A NYS drivers license gives the holder enough ID to allow them to fly domestically and get through TSA ( federal program).
NYS licenses given out indiscriminately?
I don’t think so.
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What, New York state doesn't have Trump any supporters? Let's make the case in this campaign how he will sacrifice loyal members of the base in pursuit of political revenge.
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Time for New York, California, and other blue states that contribute vastly more to the nation's coffers than the taker red states, to withhold all tax payments to the federal government. After all, Californians alone pay more federal taxes than the 25 lowest-paying states combined.
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I think Al Capone tried that method, for different reasons. That did not end well.
"If you live in the state, you won’t be able to enroll in Trusted Traveler Programs."
I know that Trump is ultimately responsible for decisions like this. But the complexity of this one is obviously beyond his ability to think up on his own. And it is so petty and irrational that it clearly had to come from his anti-immigration czar, Stephen Miller.
This will be an inconvenience for some, but a very few, really. I've travelled through NYC airports recently, and the check-in lines aren't the real aggravation there. They move quickly enough. It's the traffic getting to and from the airports that's the real problem. Gads, what a nightmare THAT is. I don't know how even Trump could make that worse. And I won't even mention LaGuardia.
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This is bad enough but one can see a very frightening trend.
Trump's base are concentrated and now have little concern for the rest of the country. Indeed, they may be hostile to it.
Trump can control the government with this small minority as long as he and members of his party are willing to break the law.
If he cannot gain popularity or respect in certain regions, he will use fear.
However, I would not be surprised if he finds some way to get special dispensation for his supporters in NY. In fact, he'll probably charge them for it in the form of campaign donations.
If he is re-elected there's no reason for him to try to govern with the interests of the public in mind, and a lot of reason for him to use fear against whomever he likes. And he benefits by fomenting regional divisions.
I already see people playing along by attacking people from 'red states' which is absurd. Virtually every *urban* area voted for Clinton even in the 'red states.' We saw this on the NYT map! Stop helping him by turning on your fellow citizens.
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I assume by New York State residents, Don Jr., Eric and other Trump family members are also barred from this program. Perhaps they did not think through hard enough when trying to spite New Yorkers?
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When you apply for Global Entry, you sign away almost all restrictions on Customs looking for problems in your records. Yes, you have to have a passport to start the process, but that is just the beginning. Passports don’t have addresses, they do not have traffic records or name changes or even minor things like Veteran status. Probably info could be scooped up in many places, but DMV records are large foundation point in the review process. Global Entry means you scan your passport, provide a fingerprint and wave to the Customs agent as you enter the country. As noted, it is a privilege. If you are not completely squeaky clean, the right answer is disapproved. Then you wait in line with everyone else.
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There seem to be a great number of comments from people who have little understanding of our federal government. So, let's get a few things straight. First, New York is a sovereign state, one of fifty. It is not a province or a territory, and its people elect their own representatives to enact laws to protect their own safety. Second, our national government is one of limited enumerated powers with strict limitations. Thus, under our national constitution, the citizens of any one state may not be deprived of any privilege available to the citizens of the several states (see, Art. IV, Sec. 2). Trump's revenge scheme is therefore yet another violation of the foundational law of the land. Third, New York has made a choice to safeguard its population, by ensuring that undocumented immigrants (and citizens and residents) cooperate with law enforcement and state authorities. As a result, New York enjoys historic low crime rates. As a result, New York is also a world center of commerce, education, culture, civilization and human development -- whilst our country cousins feel free to bring their machine guns to their state capitols. Here endeth the lesson.
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The Constitution grants the national government total authority over processes that manage movement across national borders. A state may pursue its own interests for its citizens, but when conflicts occur at the border, the Feds win. For the same reason, you have to have the Real ID star on your license, something NY cannot put on any license except for citizens and foreigners with legal status. Anyone will still be able to look at a license and know immediately the person’s immigration status.
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As a born-American I decided that the Real ID wasn’t worth going to the DMV to get. I have a passport so I can use that if necessary. So lack of a Real ID star doesn’t say anything about immigration status.
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@Michael Blazin
Correct, but only so far as the issue of border control and enforcing federal law goes. The constitution does not vest the federal government with general police powers, and the federal government cannot direct any state to use state resources to enforce federal law. And, again, depriving the citizens of any one state of privileges enjoyed by the citizens of the other states violates the constitution. So, in this instance, the national government (led by a criminal) is violating the fundamental law of the land.
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What's next? Targeting travelers from blue states with extra security checks? Cutting TSA staff at urban airports? Sounds like a version of George Washington Bridgegate.
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@Retired and refreshed
Under Obama, the IRS targeted conservatives from red states in a well-publicized scandal. Trump is just getting started. Hunter and Joe are next on the list.
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@Retired and refreshed
No it sounds like what the Germans did to the Jews by taking away their rights and privileges little by little.
No pets, no school, no jobs....
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NYS is breaking the law twice. First allowing sanctuary to illegal immigrants and then denying Homeland Security the access to DMV data base. It’s all about keeping country safe.
Meanwhile NYS residents should be allowed to sign a paper authorizing Homeland Security to access their DMV records to get Global Entry.
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If you trade your freedom for security you will have neither.
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As a New Yorker, the policy of not allowing the federal government to have access to DMV records is misguided and dangerous, as is the no bail policies recently put into effect. Trusted Traveler programs are a privilege and not a right. Although I luckily reenrolled in Global Entry recently, I support Homeland Security on this one. Time for Cuomo to amend the law.
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There's no problem. Open the database. What is New York complaining about? It fires the shots deliberately, then whines about the return fire....
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I think the Trump administration is doing the right thing here.
New York wants to circumvent our laws by allowing illegal immigrants to have drivers licenses. And, New York is preventing Homeland Security from accessing the data base of NY Drivers.
Think about it. These are illegal people in our country. Now, they are being given one of the primary forms of identification.
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@JAG NY state drivers licenses have nothing to do with Global Entry. I have global entry and I live in New York state--but I don't have a New York state DL. They verified it using my passport, and presumably, doing a criminal background check. This is political payback, pure and simple.
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@JAG
Undocumented immigrants are going to drive regardless. I feel safer knowing that all drivers on the road have licenses and auto insurance. Fewer accidents and lower insurance rates sound good to me.
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@JAG That DL won't get you on a plane come October this year as it isn't a RealID. The Feds can get access to the data base with a court order.
I prefer that those driving have passed a test of their competency.
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Trump had no choice. De Blasio and cronies are more interested in sheltering illegals than upholding the law. Have we forgotten 9/11 already. Why would we want to give a fast pass to these illegals?
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@Mikey G It's a state law, not an NYC one, so de Blasio is not the one to call out if you disagree. Also, re: 9/11 - those were Saudi nationals and Saudi Arabia paid what price exactly? Ah, yes, none at all. Do we want to give a fast pass to Saudia Arabia? Yes, apparently we do.
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The 911 terrorists weren’t illegal, and nor were those who funded them. They were, moreover, primarily Saudis welcomed, sheltered, and protected by the Republican Party at the insistence of the Bush and now Trump families.
NYS law doesn’t do any such thing. READ before writing.
When a Democrat becomes president again AND if we ever take the House and Senate, I would like to see all military bases and all federal agencies moved from red states and relocated to blue states. Let the red states support themselves and don't give them federal funds.
Start playing dirty Dems, just like the Republicans do.
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The solution is not to change New York law. It's to send the illegitimate Trump administration, and all his unctuous enablers, packing.
November.
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New York and California can and will stand up to Donald's vindictiveness.
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Hard times ahead. If Trump wins a second term, look out. If Trump loses, look behind you as well.
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Things like this are just the beginning. Trump is going to use the next year for hateful rallies and exacting revenge. He will wield all the power at his disposal (and bend laws to his will if he has to) to get even with anyone that isn’t a sycophant. He only likes those who are “nice” to him. Everyone else is his enemy. And, he’s sadistic, so punishing is fun for him.
His followers sing his praises. “He’s a counter-puncher. If he gets hit, he hits back ten times harder.” When did this become admirable, by the way?
We’re heading into a very ugly period in our history with a very angry President. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
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He just keeps coming. Every day at work and at home, I'm used to addressing problems: let's have a meeting at 9am to discuss possible solutions for problem X, or we've got to buy a new vacuum cleaner, etc. Donald Trump seems to be of a different ilk: every day he mulls over new problems that he can create or exacerbate. He then tasks his lackeys (and that's exactly what they are, for they have no allegiance to people, only to Trump) with the job of finding rationale to justify his latest vindictive act; and those lackeys are up to the challenge. Since the justifications they come up with are ludicrously false, I imagine he gets significant pleasure chuckling over them, and maybe giving a prize to the flunkey whose rationale gives him the biggest laugh. Of course, I can't be sure the above is true, just say'n.
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NY residents represent a risk due to their lack of documentation. Is the Editorial Board suggesting a lack of scrutiny is for the public good? Think back to 9/11 for a moment.
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@Mike Why do people keep bringing up 9/11 here? Those were (mostly) Saudi nationals who were NOT in the country illegally. The were on Visas. Which we gave them. Apples & oranges.
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So tell me if I have this right. A corrupt politician gets caught trying to extort foreign interference in a domestic election, because a whistleblower exposes him. This corrupt politician obstructs congress while they try to conduct the oversight they are mandated to do and intimidates or otherwise attempts to prevent witness testimony, and successfully obstructs all 'first hand' testimony. After Congress impeaches him; this corrupt, impeached politician and his friends in the Republican Senate vote to prevent any witnesses from testifying at the sham trial these friends control. This impeached, corrupt politician has the lawyers (hired by the people, for the people) defend him by manipulating and interpreting the Constitution in a manner to the corrupt, impeached politicians' sole benefit.
Instead of reacting like a rational crook, this corrupt, impeached politician expresses no remorse, feels no shame, but instead seeks to strike out at anyone he feels betrayed him. Now this corrupt , impeached politician claims exoneration and is looking for 'pay back.'
There is something terribly wrong with this picture!
Do the honest people of this country actually believe this corrupt, impeached politician is going to reform and do right by the country now? From what I can see this corrupt, impeached politician will continue bullying, intimidating and manipulating his corrupt way right up to the next election and after! What justice?
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I can almost, but not entirely, understand the concern about TSA Pre-check. If one has to use a driver’s license to go through airport security, it makes sense to verify the traveler’s identity. Global Entry is another matter - it can’t be used without a valid passport. In this case, the Trump administration’s new directive against New Yorkers makes absolutely no sense, except as a vindictive measure. One wonders if it will be expanded to include citizens of other states with Green Light laws
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Global Entry requires a detail look at all your records. That is why you pay the 115 dollars. Customs just does not verify your DL. They use it as a starting point to do some deep research about all your records. You waive any access restrictions when you apply.
Folks are protesting in Brooklyn because of a tragic shooting of a family member of a deportee by ICE. The person being arrested was removed twice before. Respect for Rule of Law and better border enforcement will help prevent tragedies like this. Tolerating disrespect for the law invites further disrespect. We do need a meaningful debate about immigration reform. Most of the rest of the country expects compliance with the law in the meantime.
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"Be Best", New York.
Insert eye roll here.
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The nation is being ruled, but not governed, by a mafioso. He should be treated as such, and removed in one of the two prescribed manners.
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the republicans made him king and now they will see what they have created . Changing the rules for the house to bring forth the next impeachment no matter when in the future.
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I think NY is now third on his list, Utah and California just took the too 2 spots.
This nasty man has already started with removing protection on Utah national monuments and won’t stop there.
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I live in New York and although I didn't vote for Trump, I live in the red part of the state. Having a petty dictator running the country hasn't been fun at all, but being surrounded by Trump sycophants is worse. Maybe as their president starts affecting their lives with his vindictiveness and revenge-oriented manner of governance, they'll see some sort of light. Maybe.
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I feel Trump’s political retribution every day, since the SALT cap increased our federal taxes by four or five thousand a year. Vacations and retirement continue to recede into the distance. I read in this very paper that no one notices or minds. I don’t understand how the Trump retribution taxes on New Jersey homeowners aren’t an issue in this campaign.
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First, I think that barring New Yorkers from Trusted Travelers programs is transparently vindictive, and will benefit no one.
That said, the position of the left on illegal immigration which results in sanctuary cities and the Green Light Law, set against their rhetoric about the threat Donald Trump presents to the rule of law is transparently hypocritical.
In a representative democracy, some shreds of which still remain in our country, if one does not believe in a law, one attempts to convince a majority of one's fellow citizens to support candidates who will change the law. If one cannot garner that majority, then the law stands.
Then, either one believes in the rule of law or one doesn't. Does one follow the laws one likes and ignore the rest of them. Is that not the great (and legitimate) complaint about President Trump? And is that not the very definition of corruption? Why would immigration laws be less valid that those concerning campaign finance?
Personally, I have compassion for people fleeing to the United States from corrupt, failed nations. But the main reason that the U.S. is attractive to them is that it is comparatively stable and therefore prosperous precisely because of the greater (not perfect) rule of law, rather than the petty tyranny of a dictator. Illegal immigrants do not understand that.
The problem with the "undocumented" is that their very first act here was to break the law, no matter their other virtues.
The average voter understands that.
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As a New York taxpayer who pays far more in Federal taxes than we get back, i say we stop paying the State Police to provide security whenever a member of Trump's circle comes to New York. Take those sand laden trucks away from Trump tower. It's no longer his primary residence. If he is going to take retribution against New Yorkers, we need to make sure he pays a price for that.
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@Walking Man And we all need to remember....they have most of the guns. They don't want the guns to make sure the government doesn't infringe their second amendment rights. They want the guns to make sure the rest of us can't exercise ours.
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@Walking Man
It may be a surprise to you but NYPD and State police get reimbursed by secret service, treasury department for deployment of local resources whenever "dignitary" aka shithead visits places outside of DC.
@Walking Man
It may be a surprise to you but NYPD and State police get reimbursed by secret service, treasury department for deployment of local resources whenever "dignitary" aka shithead visits places outside of DC.
https://www.cbc.ca/comedy/funnystuff/donald-trump-given-secret-service-codename-shithead-1.3896274
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/cities-to-trump-clinton-and-sanders-pay-your-police-bills/
PS It is a perverse security environment due to "gun enthusiasts" aka frequently deranged individuals that warrant such security architecture. Otherwise, no politicians would be at risk from the public and only require minimal security detail to trail them instead of an assembly of cavalry parades to deter malicious individuals or thwart their attacks.
One of the byproducts of this kind of spite is the enormous delight the current president and his cult take is his opponents outrage. It’ll like rocket fuel.
The current president is very likely to win the electoral college again. As a result, the choice becomes clearer with every passing day: the majority either accepts Hungarian-style authoritarian rule or the country splits in two.
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Revenge used to be a dish best served cold. Alas, in today's autocracy, it's served piping hot and right out of the oven.
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Time for new tactics. Trump’s and the GOP’s immigration policies reflect a fundamental laziness, their decline to do the hard work of building a workable immigration policy. They might say that they are trying to enforce the existing policy but we have known at least since 2006 that this policy is overwhelmed by reality. The GOP failure to solve the problem is a symptom of a larger inability to provide effective governance and a primary case for removing all of them in November. They think their approach riles up their base and is an election year winner. Let’s prove them wrong.
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The federal-state relationship issue was settled more than 150 years ago at Appomattox. Better decide whether it’s more important to avoid standing in long lines at airports, or to breeze through immigration and customs and follow federal law and regulations.
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@JPE
Regulations are subject to bureaucrats promulgation that are in captivity of presidential administration and are different from laws concepts even though derive its meaning from statues on the books.
@JPE
Regulations are subject to bureaucrats promulgation that are in captivity of presidential administration and are different, distinct from laws concepts even though derive its meaning from statues on the books. Think about DEA laws about controlled substances and actual federal cannabis "enforcement" policies in States interior that have passed legalization. Interstate commerce is different and so is immigration law which admittedly is federal government domain to be prone to interpretation of it differently from Albany or NYC unless believe in legal nihilism scenario.
@JPE
Regulations are subject to bureaucrats promulgation that are in captivity of presidential administration and are different, distinct from laws concepts even though derive its meaning from statues on the books. Think about DEA laws about controlled substances and actual federal cannabis "enforcement" policies in States interior that have passed legalization. Interstate commerce is different and so is immigration law which admittedly is federal government domain to be prone to interpretation of it differently from Albany or NYC unless believe in legal nihilism scenario.
ICE neither has resources nor republicans or democrats pay masters core constituency support to remove all illegal aliens or else USA economy will enter dark ages misery quite rapidly besides washing their own toilets and plucking cucumbers on the farms instead of shopping in fancy shops for produce, dearth of an enthusiasm where seek to remove out of status aliens whose conduct is law obedient in USA interior except administrative infraction situation. Rummaging by the federal government in DMV data bases could have been restricted with less than blunt prohibition.It was a provocation to score "political points" by Cuomo and backfired.Of course, Trump's administration is also equally ridiculous.Now they could resort to FISA vast administrative subpoena to apply to state servers in secrecy to build DMV backdoor links based on national security doctrine and apply gag order on those who build such IT.
It's fascinating to see states which desire stronger Federal oversight now seeking stronger state's rights when the Fed is no longer to their liking. This really is a civil war.
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@Harry
This is quite a debilitated analogy to draw or invoke civil war parallels absurdity. The fact that USA has mechanisms to adjudicate political bickering and ideological conflicts is what sustains either domestic or foreign investors confidence into this society besides civil liberties.
@Harry
This is quite a debilitated analogy to draw or invoke civil war parallels absurdity. What are the odds that NYS will assemble militia and go fight Texas in the name of illegal aliens emancipation? NULL and void scenario. No human being is illegal and that is an accurate statement. Fundamental Constitutional rights apply to everyone regardless of status. However, federal government does regulate immigration while NYS merely utilizes people in the economy and wish them to drive legally based on (they are here anyway, so might as well practice harm reduction by make them obtain driver licenses, purchase insurance policies-also stimulus to financial sector besides public safety improvement factors to discern their rationale.)
The fact that USA has mechanisms to adjudicate political bickering and ideological conflicts is what sustains either domestic or foreign investors confidence into this society besides civil liberties.
@Harry
This is quite a debilitated analogy to draw or invoke civil war parallels absurdity. What are the odds that NYS will assemble militia and go fight Texas in the name of illegal aliens emancipation? NULL and void scenario. No human being is illegal and that is an accurate statement. Fundamental Constitutional rights apply to everyone regardless of status. However, federal government does regulate immigration while NYS merely utilizes people in the economy and wish them to drive legally based on (they are here anyway, so might as well practice harm reduction by make them obtain driver licenses, purchase insurance policies-also stimulus to financial sector besides public safety improvement factors to discern their rationale.)
The fact that USA has mechanisms to adjudicate political bickering and ideological conflicts is what sustains either domestic or foreign investors confidence into this society besides civil liberties factors.
Excellent! This will make just the sort of difficult test case for the Supreme Court to deal with. Do they side with NY and allow sanctuary status? Or do they side with Trump and increase Federal Control? This is a beauty of a States Rights case for the new Conservative Supreme Court to trip over.
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The federal government will be ruled to have unfettered control over immigration policy, as part of its plenary control over all foreign relations. New York’s sanctuary state laws will therefore be stricken down as an impermissible interference with something that is solely within the federal government’s prerogative.
In short, Washington DC makes the immigration rules, full stop. Any state interference with that gets struck down.
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For the convenience of not going through security lines all the government asks is that you be fingerprinted as well as providing proof of citizenship among other things.
If it sounds intrusive, it is. those fingerprints are sent to the FBI who scans it against their database and will retain them indefinitely. For the privilege of being part of this biometric database you pay about$100 yearly.
All this Orwellian processing so you don’t have to take your shoes off?
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@GerardM Dude this is a nonsequitur. Global is on the RETURN. Pre-check is on the DEPARTURE.
You must not travel internationally.
And by the way the rest of the civilized world is more sophisticated, much more, with modernization of border control processes than we are.
I am sorry, but as a New Yorker, I find the request of Homeland Security to be able to look into the DMV files to be quite sensible.
I also disagree with allowing illegal immigrants to get driver licenses. It is an incentive and a magnet for more illegal immigration. Already, about half of the nonoffice jobs in NYC are held by illegal immigrants, which puts at a disadvantage legal immigrants and native Americans.
I am a legal immigrant and when I first looked for a job in NYC, in a bag store on Madison Avenue for minimum wage, I was fired after a week and replaced with an illegal immigrant who worked for half the minimum wage. The story continued, in Manhattan restaurants and so forth, until I escaped to an office job where there was scrutiny.
It makes no sense to spend trillions abroad fighting terrorism when every foreigner can sneak illegally into the US and be shielded of any scrutiny.
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Alexgri. You demonstrate that there are two sidestep every situation. The true problemisolierung that legislation related toimmigration has not kept pace with actual economic and demograpic developments. This has led to the intolerable conditions we are presently experiencing. Moreover, the Trump measures are unacceptable.
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I respect NYT op-ed views.
But to attribute this action solely to his acquittal - I beg to differ.
POTUS has been clear from Day 1 that he wants sanctuary laws struck down
There are multiple lawsuits winding their way to an eventual decision by SCOTUS.
If their precedent of holding POTUS on visa bans etc - based on finding that he alone can execute immigration laws and deserves a wide latitude - sanctuary laws will be struck down.
This has nothing to do with state vs Feds.
As to this action - POTUS has railed against drivers licenses to illegals.
Again, because they trespass on his authority. For example, he is tasked with airport security which depends on sanctity of drivers licenses.
As to revenge - well, it's more a payback.
This is an election year - and POTUS thinks railing against sanctuary laws are a winning argument.
After he is reelected in November - he may have a better political standing against sanctuary laws.
And folks - remember, there are many localities that are strongly opposed to this issuance of driver's license.
I have one of these global entries, I, for one think - he must ensure that the program is not corrupted.
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@Neil
You understand he will not allow U.S. citizens to apply or reapply for Global Entry? And that it will mean JFK, a major port of entry, will be more congested and less secure. Lot of transfer flights to Texas so good luck.
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Oh good, you have an easier time with borders. I’d feel better if you weren’t statistically likely to be a domestic terrorist. I for one am pro-border, pro-law, but very much ant- the current fascistic and in humane “enforcement”.
But Trump is not just operating at a political level.
He has millions of followers, many of whom have guns and grudges. And he delights in firing them up, talking about “we” and “us”, and how “we” are not going to take it anymore from “them”. And look how they roar back their support and approval, and wear the uniform and chant the familiar slogans.
Sooner or later, someone will decide to take things further. What happens then?
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Politics can be messy and dangerous. As in every power shift, coup or revolt, the loser should always expect retribution. This is a prime example of that.
Without drawing sides, were Cuomo not a governor of NY but say Oklahoma, his rhetoric and combativeness would be non-existent. NY and Cali must and can afford to fight the federal government, to a point. Their huge population virtually dictates a more liberal governance, unlike the rest of the country.
In the end, fighting with Trump will be to the detriment of Cuomo and NY. Should Trump be reelected, another 4 years of this discord will come at a huge price to NY.
Frankly, were I Trump, given the whole unsavory history with NY I might just do the same. Let the winner take the spoils.
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@Nick. You may as well say, "were I king, I might just punish the dissidents and freethinkers among the people." That is not the kind of thought that pops into the head of most liberal people. Your sentiments and inclinations sir, and Trump's are out of place in a democratic society.
Don't forget that the tax-cut-for-the-rich included provisions designed specifically to punish the residents of blue states by compelling them to pay more in taxes. As a consequence in those states it is not uncommon for residents to now pay several thousand dollars in extra taxes. Some folks are paying as much as ten thousand dollars more. Given that the blue states already pay much more per capita than the red states, and subsidize the red states, this is a hard pill to swallow. Undoing the tax-cut-for-the-rich should be at the top of the Democratic candidates' to-do lists.
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Stop spreading disinformation. The number of people who benefited from the higher standard exemption - in NYS as well as in the whole country - far outweighed those who are now paying higher taxes due to the SALT being capped at $10,000.
Trump gave the Dems what they long been crying out for - the rich are paying higher taxes. It just happens to be the rich in blue states.
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it's not disinformation. read the legal briefs and facts of who pays what to whom. it's blatantly unconstitutional.
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I feel you are arrogant to dismiss the tax hikes we are struggling with here in New Jersey as problems of the rich. We are struggling to make ends meet in our middle class jobs in education, even at the peak of our careers when you would think the starter home deprivations would be long behind. Having lost our first home to Sandy, because most of the RREM grants were never actually dispersed, I now regret buying another. With the Trump tax hike, it costs hundreds of dollars more per month than we bargained for five years ago.
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This story gives me hope that Trump's dangerous cruelty thru political revenge will eventually be defeated --- permanently.
This week, I've felt like "a man without a country," but will not give-in to despair.
And today, listening to Trump's pay-back mentality against his political opponents, will make me stronger in opposing all that he and his spineless enablers represent.
To be further uplifted and strengthened in this battle, read today's Washington Post piece by the honorable Marie Yovanovitch, "These Are Turbulent Times But We Will Persist and Prevail."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/06/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-ambassador-american-institutions-need-us/#comments-wrapper
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Punishment will be metered out until we are all genuflecting at the feet of dear leader.
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@Brad meted
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"an authoritarian thug"
Perfect.
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@Delph Despite known shortcomings in our government, I thank my lucky stars I live in Australia. I am confident any "authoritarian thug" will get short shrift here.
Trump would destroy the Union.
When George Washington, as President of the Federal Constitutional Convention transmitted the Constitution to the Congress this this is what he wrote:
"In all our deliberations on this subject, we kept steadily in our view that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety--perhaps our national existence. This important consideration, seriously and deeply impressed on our minds, led each State in the Convention to be less rigid on points of inferior magnitude than might have been otherwise expected; and thus, the Constitution which we now present is the result of a spirit of amity, and of that mutual deference and concession, which the peculiarity of our political situation rendered indispensable."
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It’s completely fabricated. There isn’t anything in the drivers’ license database that needs to be shown to get a global entry card. A passport and birth certificate prove citizenship, age etc and tax and utility bills prove residency. Can NY sue? Can we block Global Entry for anyone landing in a NY State airport regardless of residency? If no one could use their fast entry ID’s at JFK etc my guess is thevDHS would back down.
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@Alexandra Hamilton The Global entry program is not just for US Citizens. Lawful permanent residents and citizens of some countries, including Canada and Mexico are eligible. Applicants who have a conviction or pending charges for any criminal offence including DUI are not eligible.
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What the Democrats need to learn is that we are operating under new rules when it comes to governance. Time to make it difficult for the corrupt Trump organization in NYC. From ticketing, to health inspections, to building codes, to opening up cases on false bankruptcies it is time to wield the power of the state government to punch back for the residents of NY state.
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I agree, it’s really very simple. Shut down all his properties for any reason, stop all city services, and drive their value to zero. Let him go to court, but keep it up no matter what he says or does. Also, audit all the federal officials that live and work in NY that are implementing the denial of applications. In the end, reduce anything he owns, leases or has an interest in into a worthless piece of property.
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Correct.
All these nonsense would end if NY would release all of Trump’s tax returns.
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And make it especially difficult and arduous to fly in and out on that old DC10...lot’s of tarmac time for don jr and eric — inspections, paperwork, verifications, deplane and reload several times, pilot plan resubmittals, weather delays—use a sharpie to justify —fuel issues, cargo door closure issues, tire pressure questions, weight problems, nose gear inspections, fan blade fatigue questionnaire submittal, food contamination, endless safety requirements...new seatback tray requirements...Just a few ideas...
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Was there ever any doubt that we'd be Number #1 on Trump's hit list?
And true to form, he didn't waste any time in finding a way to make New York pay for not voting for him -- or maybe it's because of the ongoing investigation in the Sothern District Court -- or the fact that we are a city of immigrants that continues to welcome them, or the fact that Chuck Schumer and Jerrold Nadler were leading the "witch-hunt" against him.
Whatever the strange and sad reasoning might be, Donald Trump has once again proven himself to be the same old vindictive person he has shown himself to be all along.
And if we can rebuild our city after the devastation of 9/11, we can stand up to anything this president decides to dish out.
You can bet on it.
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Can the citizens of New York not Sue the Federal Government as this is not equal protection under the law? There has to be some way this violates the interstate commerce clause.
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@Tex Murphy
Sue them? With Barr as the top lawmaker in the US? And a GOP Supreme Court? What would be the point?
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So how long will New York State subject itself to a foreign tyranny? NYPD has 40,000 men under arms to start, who are loyal to whoever pays them, and that ain’t Trump. That’s the equivalent of a heavy armored corps. New York also has 10th Mountain at Fort Drum, West Point, the best harbor on the East Coast, and a long border with a friendly foreign power. If the New England states join New York, a massive chunk of tax revenue will no longer flow into a federal government that is already $1 trillion in deficit this year. Should California, Oregon, and Washington leave simultaneously, the United States would be financially unsustainable without massive tax increases to the remaining states. That should pull the Mountain West, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, Delaware, and North Carolina into secession. Then if Texas declares independence over the tax burden, Trump will be finally left with only the Red rump states, and their citizens will have the President that they so richly deserve.
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Ah! A girl can dream!!!
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I couldn’t agree more that secession by groups of states to form more perfect unions might be the only way for the American Dream to survive!
A confederation of five to six new republics tied loosely together by military and monetary pacts may be in the best interest of all polarized citizens and what should be the former USA.
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Where do I sign up?! Is 67 too old to enlist? I’ll gladly carry water for the front lines if it comes to that. The alternative is to surrender to the destruction of the USA we grew up in. The end of our Democracy and the shredding of our Constitution. I will fight against that rather than roll over and give up. The Republican Party is now officially The Cult of Trump. I Stand with New York!
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I (a Pennsylvania resident) have an appointment to finalize my application this Saturday. It was made clear during the application process that I was authorizing an exhaustive background check. That is the point of the application; to submit yourself to scrutiny as a potential security risk.
The provision blocking federal immigration agents from retrieving information from the New York's D.M.V.’s databases without a court order, is in no way an obstacle to that background check authorized by every applicant.
Trump's action is punitive, mean-spirited, and poorly thought out.
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Participants in Global Entry are allowed to enter the United States with gentler evaluation at the border than non-members. The program was, until now, open to all citizens, as well as citizens from 9 foreign countries that provide the information needed for background checks.
The rationale for such facilitated entry is simple and based on common sense; membership in Global Entry requires pre-screening and a background check. A major component of pre-screening is evaluation of drivers license records.
New York State is refusing to allow the Federal government access to the state's drivers license records, so a thorough screening of New Yorker's is not possible.
If NY permits the government access to these records, the restriction will be lifted. This doesn't sound like it's about a vendetta by the Administration, it sounds like common sense. Bad people do enter the country - remember 9/11. It's the governments obligation to take reasonable measures to prevent the entry of would-be terrorists. They are simply doing their job.
If NYS refuses to allow Homeland Security access to all NYS drivers license records, I would think they can implement a process to to state residents who desire Global Entry to opt out of the restriction, and for the state to provide access to the the records of these individuals.
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Alex, the opt-out is the application itself. You authorize any necessary inquiries. That's why this makes no sense. If you apply (as I did), you authorize the DHS to do a thorough background check (state driver's license information included).
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Yes, but NYS is not allowing DHS to access the DMV’s drivers license database so they are making the system ineffective for NYS residents. NYS can do what it wants and NYS residents have other means for enhanced entry, its just not going to be by using just a NYS driver’s license.
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Oh, and @Alex, you mention a concern about “bad people”.
Having been in NYC and lost friends on 9/11, I can tell you that I worry a heck of a lot more about a “bad” person driving around without insurance and injuring me or someone I love than some terrorist thinking it’s a good idea to try to gain Global Entry clearance (cause aren’t, like, all terrorists are lining up for invasive background checks...?)
And if you’re so concerned about our borders integrity, shouldn’t we want more people pre-checked and out of the way upon re-entry so that ICE and Border Patrol can devote their focus to screening the ones that haven’t passed rigorous background checks? I’d rather have that one customs agent screening hundreds because the bulk of people are able to zip through Global Entry vs having him or her have to screen thousands because some tiny little dictator wanted to flex his flabby muscle and prevent people from getting Trusted Traveler status (with or without a NY State drivers license!)
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We'd better fasten our seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy ride between now and January 20, 2021.
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@JenD Ummmmm....January 20, 2025.
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It truly is scary to see how Trump is finding many ways to either pay back or keep "inline" people, businesses, cities and state governments. He has found tariffs a way to threaten various businesses - behave, support "Trump" (maybe contribute to the party, maybe let social media say anything pro Trump, etc) or face additional costs on your product (electronic companies beware!). And, yes he uses the withholding of funds (to Ukraine, cities, states) if you don't "do" exactly what he wants. Most of Trump's mean spirited ways of attacking are a detriment to "we the people" especially with increased prices and deregulation of environmental regulations and creating a tragically discouraging a united America as he encourages us to vilify one another.
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@Rev Wayne More and more, Trump reminds me of Josef Stalin, beginning with his statement, "I like people who weren't captured." Stalin also didn't like people who weren't captured: he considered Red Army soldiers captured by the Germans as traitors and had them shot or deported to Siberia upon their return home after the war. Stalin developed a cult of personality, which I'm reminded of whenever I see a Trump rally. Stalin was paranoid and purged anyone he feared was disloyal, which I'm reminded of whenever I read about another Administration official leaving his or her job.
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@Rev Wayne If NY refuses to provide driver license details, how should one determine eligibility for global entry?
@Rev Wayne ....while giving $1.5 billion to farmers (predominantly Trumpers) to offset their losses due to tariffs he imposes on China ...while limiting food stamps and school lunches. There is no wonder his base is enthralled with him. He is buying votes with taxpayer money.
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The Director of Homeland Security would choose Fox News for a major policy announcement.
This single fact is enough to know that we need a sea-change as a country to regain our balance.
Or, if you prefer, a repentance.
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If Trump succeeds in punishing NY, CA, and other blue states to a degree that damages their economies -- where are the red states going to get the positive federal cash flow they need?
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@Lyndon "So, paying more in taxes damages the economy? Democrats need to get their story straightened out."
Lyndon, you are not paying attention.
Taxes take money out of and slow an economy, but the same money spent on useful products and services can provide a benefit. Blue State taxes given to Red States damage the Blue States and help the Red States. Taxation without representation, get it?
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@Lyndon Perhaps you should re-read the comment? Or I can interpret for you:
- a damaged economy results in less personal income, which results in LOWER income taxes paid.
- we in the blue states pay more in taxes to the federal government than those in the red states.
- the red states consume more federal spending than the blue states.
- the question posed is about what will happen when there is less money available for the consuming red states, when the economies of the blue states has been hurt by the endless punishments of the occupant.
Capice?
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Attention Gov. Cuomo:
You may win this battle but ultimately Trump wins re-election with issues like this.
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@Arch Stanton Cuomo et al is completely out of touch with the country. If you don’t believe it, tune in the day after the election.
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Not that it's a competition and it's a shame that New York is being targeted in this way, but California is still the top of Trump's enemies list--especially Pelosi and Schiff.
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Nadler is from New York. And do forget Utah. I think it’s now a three way tie.
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New York and California have been hurting the rest of the country through senseless nationwide injunctions against our immigration laws.
It's time we cut them to size, and show they are just as equal as the other 48 states, nothing more.
Trump's the answer.
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@Bhaskar - But, they are not. That’s the point. Both are better than the rest. And pay taxes to support the rest as well.
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@Bhaskar Please tell Trump to stop sullying NY and California with his endless fund-raising private dinners.
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@S
Sure. Like Al Capone paying the tithe.
Doesn't make it benevolent, however much he brags about it.
Soon the voters will have their chance for payback. People to the left of center in the blue states have a good idea of what the swing states are and will be taking action to defeat Trump in those states whether it is funding campaigns, calling, texting, social media posts, or even visiting those states for door-to-door canvassing. There will be an all out effort to get this demagogue out of office and return this country to some sort of normalcy. Hillary Clinton got almost 3 million more votes than Trump despite Putin, Comey, etc and a much bigger effort in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania should finally get the autocratic white supremacist out of the White House.
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This can't be legal, not that is an issue with this administration.
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@Foxrepubican When you say "this can't be legal," are you by any chance referring to (1) the full right of illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, (2) the ability of New York to withhold those driver's licenses from ICE when ICE (a federal agency) makes an investigative request? Because those are pretty radical ideas with ramifications for US security.
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A number of years ago citizens threw tea into Boston harbor to protest unequal treatment. Maybe it's time for New Yorkers and Californians to stop paying federal taxes. Let's see the Trump Nation run without us.
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@Barbara
I have on more than one occasion said that the donor states should stop sending our taxes to the Federal government..... See the following/Quoted from: worldpopulationreview.com/states/donor-states/
"California, known for having high taxes, is not currently a donor state, but the positive balance of payments is only $12. Therefore, taxpayers in California are receiving an average of $12 more from the federal government than they pay in taxes to it.
The ten donor states with the largest negative balance of payments per capita (the biggest givers) are:
Connecticut (- $4,000)
New Jersey (- $2,368)
Massachusetts (- $2,343)
New York (- $1,792)
North Dakota (- $720)
Illinois (- $364)
New Hampshire (- $234)
Washington (- $184)
Nebraska (- $164)
Colorado (- $95)
The ten states with the largest positive balance of payments per capita (the biggest takers) are:
Virginia ($10,301)
Kentucky ($9,145)
New Mexico ($8,692)
West Virginia ($7,283)
Alaska ($7,048)
Mississippi ($6,880)
Alabama ($6,694)
Maryland ($6,035)
Maine ($5,572)
Hawaii ($5,270)"
See also:
governing.com/week-in-finance/gov-taxpayers-10-states-give-more-feds-than-get-back.html
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put our taxes in escrow until 2021
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Al Capone tried that one, withholding federal taxes for personal reasons. It did not end well for him.
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If Trump is not defeated in November, can New York declare independence, try to withdraw from the United States and perhaps even get California and other states to join to form a new perfect Union with “Liberty and Justice for All.”
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@Glenn P Eisen Whoa! Is this what people in quarantine, or almost quarantine, spend their time doing?
Did not US Grant decide this issue at Appomattox Court House in April 1865? Just checking to see if we both read similar textbooks in sixth grade.
Get in line. He's had it in for California ever since the election.
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The man who expects loyalty doesn’t have it for his hometown where he made much of his money.
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When are sanctuary cities going to figure out they are disobeying the law? The stats on illegal immigrants committing violent crimes are just wrong. They are much higher than is reported. New Yorkers can buy in to Cuomo giving rights to illegal’s but they should get used to the back of the line at the airport security checkpoint.
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@Dan Locker "When are sanctuary cities going to figure out they are disobeying the law?" What law?
"The stats on illegal immigrants committing violent crimes are just wrong. They are much higher than is reported." Only in your imagination, unless you have evidence.
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@Dan Locker
Sanctuary city just means that ICE cannot use a local city police force or administration to do its job for it.
For goodness sake, it’s the federal government- let them use their own massive resources to enforce immigration laws. Maybe start by fully staffing the agency.
Where I live very little crime is committed by the very religious and hard working immigrant community. Look at the data. It’s clear.
Shame on Trump for being so childish
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Please show your sources that prove illegals are committing more crimes than have been reported.
Is anyone surprised? Trump exemplifies the mob mentality. You cross me and I exact revenge. Is this really the kind of America the majority of Americans want? Does a record breaking Dow Jones purge all sins?
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@ Milton Lewis - Trump appears to be taking a page from Cuomo’s book of power politics.
Has Trump met New Yorkers? If it were one on one--easy money.
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Take heart, NY. We in California will doubtless be next. I just renewed my global entry, so maybe it won't be taken away.
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there can be no doubt - if he wins re-election we are headed for a full Civil War.
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@Nate
No guns in Manhattan, though. At least, that's what I hear.
Trump has already targeted New York and California as states who do not support him; where citizens are educated and read newspapers, they tend to oppose this authoritarian bully, In limiting the deduction for state taxes he hit the liberal states (e.g., our N.Y. and California), as the more liberal the state the more taxes it collects to provide for those without resources --to build a caring social net and good educational system for all. So Trump cuts the deductibility of these taxes. States which support him tend to care less about a social net, and tend to restrict spending for medicaid or for other other help-the-poor projects. Why is it that the more liberal states show more compassion for the afflicted, such as the migrant fleeing horrors? I think that those who are aware of the realities of life elsewhere--those who are better educated--tend to be more merciful to those facing misfortunes not of their own making. Trump is an essentially ignorant boor and it is tragic that he has been given the power he has by his Republican slaves.
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Guess what? Citizens in states other than NY and CA are educated and read newspapers, too. And, when they read this newspaper and read comments such as yours, they will be more apt to vote to re-elect Trump because they are tired of your disdain.
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@MDB "Be Best"
We Californians are beginning to consider it a badge of honor when we defy the dogmas and dictates of Mr. Trump. I have lost count on how many times we have sued the administration, and with that in mind I thank God daily for AG Becerra. And my understanding is that New York is pretty darn good when it comes to a deserved pay-back to an undeserved, vicious, and vindictive one. That Atlantic state has taught us, its younger sister on the Pacific, well. On another note, but I believe to be equal in its revenge is the administration's final plan to allow mining and drilling at Utah's Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monuments. I am not sure if this egregious plan is because of Obama or Romney. But whether it be sanctuary cities and states, environmental protection, law and justice, health care, ad infinitum, Trump is Malice defined. And New York can handle him, for sure.
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@Kathy Lollock New York knows Donald Trump well. That's why we didn't vote for him. He's a wheeler dealer and nothing more than a very vindictive, ignorant massoginist. Nancy Pelosi is his match, their is no doubt she will not take his bluster. She makes him crazier than he already is!
It’s petty, thuggish and extortionate, but I really don’t blame him. The “Sanctuary City” concept is a classic example of defining deviancy down. Immigration law is a) federal, b) supreme to state and local law, and c) exactly what trump promised and was elected to fix, whether we like it or not.
States and cities cannot nullify laws they deem insufficiently compassionate.
If the democratic governor of Virginia takes similar action against the buffoonish local sheriffs in parts of that commonwealth who are declaring their counties “second amendment sanctuaries” I’ll stand foursquare behind him. And you know what? So will all the people howling about trump.
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@HenryParsons, you don't seem to understand. States and cities don't "nullify" immigration law and there are actually no such things as "sanctuary" cities or States.
As you point out, immigration is a Federal responsibility. All we're doing in NY is allowing the Federal government to do its job and not forcing our State agencies to take on Federal jobs for which they are neither trained nor compensated. If ICE follows their own rules, and the laws of the Federal government, they have no difficulty. If they wish to circumvent laws to facilitate their process, that's a problem.
Also, your comparison of the Federal/State legal relationships to a State/Municipality relationship is flawed. They are nothing alike.
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@David F
Agreed. Perhaps Trump should do a better job of staffing his agencies, then he wouldn’t have to rely on local DMVs to enforce immigration law.
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@HenryParsons
You mean like how certain states try to get around federal environmental regulations. Not to mention abortion policies.
Double standard.
Easy remedy. Many of the Trump properties lie in these locations. They can be seized, heavily taxed, etc.
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The misuse of presidential power, through Trump's control of most aspects of government, to pressure Sanctuary Cities, is indeed a persecution of all New Yorkers, but more than that, it is a vindictive pursuit to search out and punish immigrants, it reminds me of the Fugitive Slave Act, in which the federal government, dominated by the southern Slave Power, enacted the Fugitive Slave Act to tie the hands of states that had made slavery against the law, by severely punishing any residents who harbored fugitive slaves. The mild-mannered philosopher, Ralph Waldo Emerson, came out slugging and said at a protest: "The fairest American fame ends in this filthy law." Of Daniel Webster, who voted for the law, Emerson said "He must learn that those ... who feel the disgrace of the new legislation creeping like a miasma into their homes and blotting the daylight ... have torn down his picture from the wall, they have thrust his speeches into the chimney." Here in our day and time we have a federal government trying to rob the freedom of enlightened people in Sanctuary Cities to make humanitarian laws that would offer some refuge to innocent people from a racist and hateful government.
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@Anne Sherrod
The individual states should set immigration law? Really?
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@Anne Sherrod
So do they allow illegals in Canada to get a driver's license?
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@Longue Carabine - TNew York's sanctuary laws, as described here, do not constitute setting immigration law, in fact they represent only a small but important step to ameliorate the persecution that immigrants face. Tyrants make corrupt laws that kill democracy and compassion. There comes a point where the freedom of moral conscience is being snuffed out against the will of the people, by a dictatorship. The only way to save it is either for people to disobey corrupt laws or for states to try to provide some kind of umbrella. Can't you see Trump trying to extinguish every possible light of hope?
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Make no mistake about it. This is the new stage of Trump’s fascism, with the GOP enablers cheering him on to new lows of degradation. When our leaders, Nancy Pelosi and Mitt Romney as well as Adam Schiff, are threatened by a run-away power-mad president who, by all that’s sacred in our Constitution should have been removed from office, we are in a very dangerous place indeed. Chanting him on with “four more years,” each GOP senator, with the sole exception of Senator Romney, is directly responsible to the American people for any harm done to us, our allies, our sacred land, and our liberties. In the fullness of time, each will be held accountable.
I applaud Nancy Pelosi for having the courage to stand up to the bully, and I respect Mitt Romney for following his sworn oath under a God to uphold his Constitutional oath of office. Thank you for light in this time of darkness.
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@DLS : Bloomberg will challenge Trump and win. Only another New Yorker who is a legitimate, self-made businessman with a proven track record serving New Yorkers for twelve years as the Mayor can take him on and win. Bloomberg will win and not a minute too soon!
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@Ichabod Aikem You're the same guy that declared Romney to be a murderous homophobic misogynistic tyrant when he ran for President.
What changed?
@Ichabod Aikem
The remedy for this tyrannical behavior should be the withholding of funds for the rogue departments. Pelosi needs to step up and swing her purse a bit.
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Trump won the first team, in part, by arguing that many politicians put the interests of illegal immigrants above American citizens. New York politicians have proved his point. These are the types of issues that will lead to Trump’s re-election.
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@Sue If that's what you think, you are sorely misinformed!
National Security will always take precedence over local or state laws. It’s not discriminatory. If not, you could have another 9/11.
Homeland Security made the right move. If you don’t like the result, change the state law restricting the locals from dealing with the Feds.
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Give me a break, the Editors know exactly why this limit applies to New York. Unlike other states, New York included a provision that restricted federal immigration agencies’ access to Department of Motor Vehicles records without a court order. These online system are dependent on verification and periodic re-check with the various data bases that maintain the records behind the Id's. The New York Law requires a court order for the fed's to see the records; thus making the online system unworkable for New York. residents. None of this happen today, it has been communicated previously and the State did nothing to stop the prohibition on New Yorkers from happening.
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“... law also contains a provision that blocks federal immigration agents from retrieving information from the D.M.V.’s databases without a court order.”
This is no different than placing countries on the travel ban list because they won’t vet their own citizens. What did the New York legislature think would happen?
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@Conservative Democrat Allowing the federal immigration access to the DMV records would mean no immigrants would use the Green Light program. That would destroy the benefits of the program (decreased hit and run accidents and increased drivers participating in auto insurance). I'd say the latter is more important than aiding Trump's reign of terror America's latest scapegoats.
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The Director of Homeland Security would chose Fox News for a major policy announcement.
Never mind that this proposed policy is vengeful and discriminatory, this single fact is enough to know that we need a sea-change as a country to regain our balance.
Or, if you prefer, a repentance.
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Trump can demonize New York and California because he doesn't need their Electoral Votes.
The way to fight back is to help anti-Trump forces in swing states. Make calls. Help knock on doors, Driver voters to the polls. And make donations however small to campaigns in other states. Check out Red To Blue, Emily's List and other grassroots, movement-building groups.
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@mg And of course every dictator needs someone to blame. Oldest trick in the dictators' playbook. The pointy headed know-it-alls in NY and CA - and let's face it, there is a certain genius in Trump's ability to convince his base that he is not the elitist - are convenient and essential foils. And why bother chasing votes when it takes 650,000 population for one Electoral College vote when they are far cheaper elsewhere: 200,000 in WY, for example. Trump has never been far from a bargain when it suited him.
I think it is pretty clear, that when Trump is finally out of the White House he will not be welcome to live in NYC. Melanie can live here, but Donald can't.
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@Don Wiss , when he is out of office he'll be in prison and that's his tooth and claw fight, prevent prison for another four years.
Sorry. He’s yours. The state of NY created him. You have to take him back.
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Really? The liberal New York legislature figures vetting is someone else’s job and blames Trump? TSA and Global approved traveler designations mean that the person’s identity is known and he or she is likely not a threat.
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@Conservative Democrat oh, dear. Re-read the op ed. There are "...more than a dozen states and the District with similar measures on the books". The TTP may still obtain all required information on the traveler, once the traveler gives permission to access. ICE is required to obtain a court order.
Nothing to see here, other than the vindictive, petty, childish behavior that continues to flow from the Oval office.
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@Conservative Democrat Hey, can we get the feds to vet someone buying guns and ammo too? We really do need to know their identity and if he or she is a threat.
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"Proponents of the so-called Green Light Law, which was hotly debated, argued for it on both humanitarian and public safety grounds, noting that similar laws adopted by other states had resulted in a reduction in hit-and-run accidents and an increase in the number of insured drivers."
This is blatant obfuscation and twisting of the consequences.
Fewer hit-and-run doesn't imply safer roads because it doesn't mean fewer accidents. It simply means fewer people fleeing from the scene of an accident.
Common sense says that if you add more drivers on the road (in this case illegal aliens who previously could not legally obtain licenses), then there will of course be statistically higher odds of accidents occurring.
So let's say it again: fewer people fleeing an accident doesn't say anything about fewer number of accidents.
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@Jason W Fewer licensed drivers doesn't necessarily mean fewer drivers on the road. As someone who used to be undocumented, I can tell you that lacking a license isn't a deterrent because driving is sadly a necessity for work, school, and everyday life in this country. It makes driving an anxiety inducing daily occurrence, but people need to get around regardless.
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@Jason W
But if they are insured, isn't that, and not some statistical average, that matters in terms of the law?
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@Skeexix
I made a point about safety. Whether drivers are insured or not says absolutely nothing about safety of the roads.
So the answer to your question is a no.
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Well, first he and the GOP shot an arrow at our state and municipal financing issues by curtailing the deductibility of SALT; now he's going to try to make international travel especially difficult for New Yorkers who have to travel on business.
He is madly vindictive. And where he once relied on his lawyers to make it overwhelmingly difficult to sue him for default or fraud, now he is enlisting the forces of the Federal Government to make it strikingly difficult and expensive for his targets ( New York!) to defend their laws.
Madness, hubris and vindictiveness, not conviction. So far it keeps working for him.
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@cheryl I am fairly certain at this point that Trump has made some Faustian deal or another. It is bewildering how much he gets away with.
More realistically, he has seen the way to "hack" the system when you have money and don't care about what anyone except your loyalists think of you: You stonewall, you litigate, you bully.
And now, with the assumed military might of the US (which he no doubt believes resides in the Republican Party), he has taken it one step further: He plays a vicious game of chicken, daring his opponents to escalate the situation, egging them on to let him unleash the military on his own people.
He has turned assault into a life philosophy, knowing in a civilized world no one wants to counter assault with greater assault--even though it seems like the only option now.
I find myself waking up every morning hoping a heart attack has finally claimed him. That would be a blissful end to this insanity.
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Followed closely by California, which is second on the list. All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
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Certainly the answer is to move to Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Maine, or Texas.
And register to vote.
It doesn't take that much to qualify.
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Of course when all the New York residents are kicked out of the quick entry program, the lines and waits for the rest of us will get longer (already unbearable) and security attention will be wasted on people who would be classified as no-risk but for Trumps hatred and need for retribution.
So all of us are being punished, which seems about right, because the President has contempt for all Americans. We know he hates people who won’t wholeheartedly support him, and those who do support him are just marks in his con and a con despises his marks. He will make us all pay.
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@Yeah don’t get mad get even. Vote Blue No Matter Who!
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@Pat
Literally any sane adult
This is exactly the type of thing— an extortion of sorts—that Representative Schiff and Democratic House Managers warned of during the impeachment trial.
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The thing is, it's not "dangerous criminal aliens" who obtained drivers licenses in NY and elsewhere.
It's landscapers, and construction guys, and house cleaners, hotel maids, busboys, and all of the other service people who happen to have been born in Mexico.
Oh sure, maybe one out of 10,000 is a dangerous criminal.
They get a license because without one they can't get auto insurance nor get to and from the jobs Americans don't want. Generally they're very conservative drivers because the last thing they want is to get pulled over.
All of us benefit from lower insurance rates when there are fewer unlicensed, uninsured motorists. They don't jump out and run when they get in an accident.
If America is going to deport every single illegal alien, that's one thing. But to punish New Yorkers for allowing those who work hard in our country a legal, safe way to get to their jobs is just wrong.
Trump is about revenge, punishment, and getting even. Mercy isn't in his repertoire, nor kindness. The Bible tells us not to mistreat aliens. Maybe someone at that prayer breakfast should have reminded him.
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@Wade Nelson
and who work (or worked for) Trump owned properties. If he can’t hire ‘em, no one can!
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@Wade Nelson The Syracuse Post Standard posted a story some time back about the exploitation of migrant farm workers that work Upstate NY farms. The story cited the lack of transportation that forced them to buy necessities from what resembles company stores. Transportation, where it could be obtained often cost a days wages or more.
Having access to legal transportation would provide access for migrant laborers and their dependents to discounted goods at supermarkets giving them a little better quality of life. These are some of the hardest working and lowest paid workers in this country, and they are treated like forced labor. I want to believe that this and not politics is what drove NYS to implement this law.
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@Wade Nelson “One out of 10,000 illegals is a dangerous criminal?” I live in Mexico, am in business with Mexicans, hire lots of Mexicans, and generally speaking love Mexicans. But you’r one in ten thousand number is based on pure ignorance.
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I don’t understand the infatuation that the Democrats have for undocumented/illegal immigrants. I am afraid this will cost them the next election and make the US all the worse for it.
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@Nagarajan The Global Entry Program has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants. Trump is unhappy with sanctuary laws and is taking it out on US Citizens in a completely unrelated program instead of doing the PROPER thing which is fighting sanctuary laws in court. And why SHOULD cities and states have to cover the expenses of the jobs that FEDERAL Immigration agencies are supposed to do any way?
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@Michelle
In other news, Trump spends an inordinate amount of time and - money?- fight in our courts for his freedom.
Counting the days . . .
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From the article: “In a letter to top officials at New York’s Department of Motor Vehicles, the acting secretary of homeland security, Chad Wolf, said the move was in response to a 2019 state law enabling undocumented immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses.”
So the Administration has made this about illegal immigrants, whether you like it or not and I am afraid they are on the winning side of this argument.
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My boarding passes are always coded with "TSA Pre-Check" going in and out of the US. I have never applied nor have I interviewed, nor have I turned over mounds of personal information, nor have I paid the government anything to go through this more efficient security line. So I assume this whole program of paid access started up just to see if it sticks. Now it's just a money-making racket for the government. The world's best airports don't do this, they properly staff the passenger lines. My guess is that Homeland Security makes a living off the program, and with New York being a popular point of entry, Trump's just going to run the deficit up even higher. He's doing it out of spite, because that's how bullies operate. I hope he looses bigly, and the Secret Service who stood on the ready when Nixon quit, will once again be on the job, ready to escort Trump out of the White House. If he refuses to go, the SS has an off-the-shelf plan that wasn't needed last time. So don't worry about that!
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I am not, and have never been a liberal. In fact, I used to be a Republican, from Iowa no less.
But I think Trump is a toxic, dangerous, possibly unstable man. Could even the strongest democracy survive intact after eight years of this "leader"? And it's not just the US that's in danger. Similar demagogues are following his lead in Brazil, Poland, Hungary, the UK, and more.
I understand why it's in the economic or political interest for some people to support him. And there are also "low information" voters.
But what about intelligent people who are too lazy to vote? Or even worse: holier-than-thou know-it-alls who vote for third party candidates to "protest," no matter how awful the result the election.
I am not optimistic.
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@bnyc
And not to mention those silent but not inactive white supremacists who have been waiting for the outspoken leader who will execute their feelings and hopes. Trump may have staying power.
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And how about the senate republicans who know for sure that the guy is dangerous and guilty and yet acquit him?
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Consider Nexus.. Works in Canada and US, only 50$. Better for crossing the border in a car (going to a sane country!).
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@hearhear Nexus is also being denied NYers. All trusted traveler programs.
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NYers won’t be able to enroll in NEXUS under this rule either.
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Much like if a certain German's art career was encouraged, if DJT was allowed to become an NFL team owner, a lot of things could have been avoided....
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Just say no to this Bully.
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The 'editorial board' says "And he touted legislation that would allow the victims of crimes committed by certain foreign nationals to sue sanctuary cities or states."
"Certain foreign nationals". Sophistically correct. More precisely; criminal illegal aliens that are being protected by open-borders bureaucrats.
Brilliant! Hold the bureaucrats accountable when they flout national law (so they can selfishly virtue signal) and thereby endanger American citizens.
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The pre-check program is a convenience to travelers, but it requires that TSA have access to all records, including DMV records. If NY bars TSA access to those records, then they can’t do the necessary pre-check. And we’ll just have to endure the normal security check at airports that we have been doing since 9/11.
It’s not complicated. TSA needs the DMV records for pre-check; and they don’t grant it without those records.
Would you be okay boarding a plane with undocumented foreigners who have pre-check, but who got it without a proper investigation?
The part I don’t understand is why New Yorkers applying for pre-check can’t grant access to TSA to their DMV records? Why make it a blanket denial for all New Yorkers?
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@Steven Roth Please re-read. The TTP may access all DMV records of the applicant after receiving permission. They MAY NOT access random files without permission. This petty, vindictive "order" serves no purpose other than to punish the citizens of the State of New York. NYS, by the way, is one of at least 12 other states and the District of Columbia with this law on the books.
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@Dbell48
Read the articles. The other non-cooperating states do not bar access like this law does.
"Court order" some say. So the Feds have to seek thousands of court orders to do everyday travel vetting?
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@Steven
Please educate yourself a bit before jumping into the fray. DMV records are only one way for people to be vetted. Some Global Entry holders, like me, have no DMV records. Yet we still got vetted. Magic? No, we just apply with our passports! I can assure you that having no DMV record for ICE to check did not prevent me from being approved three times (1st time and two renewals).
So, no. What you claim is factually incorrect. In fact, ICE only “needs” DMV records to establish identity when applicants choose to grant access as part of their application. No court order needed. No ICE - DMV connection otherwise.
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Release his NY tax returns.
Rescind all tax abatements for Trump owned or sold properties unless the current owner is a NY resident.
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The retribution threats in today’s speech should be taken very seriously. Many think that the administration would love to ruin the California and New York economies. Likely, they will try do accomplish this through tax policies aimed at these two states. At that point, so-called liberal policies will be blamed. Also, the president has previously stated clearly and multiple times that he should get more than 2 terms. The latter is the really important concern. Everything they are proposing, such as a massive public works program, is intended to garner sufficient support for more than 2 terms. Let’s stop arguing about whether Sanders, Bloomberg or somebody else should be supported and focus on the very real, very serious threat.
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@Carol More than 2 terms would require a Constitutional amendment, and that's not happening.
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@Carl Yaffe
How difficult would it be to get a constitutional amendment passed with this criminal mastermind, at the helm?
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So why is this a surprise?
The GOP attacks political opposition states as a matter of course.
Do you remember Karl Rove and W's decision process for the closure of military bases?
Somethings do not change. The GOP in particular.
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And of course Trump's near-elimination of the State and Local Taxes (SALT) deduction by capping it at $10,000 was aimed squarely at NY, CA and NJ. The man is vindictiveness personified.
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@Andrew
You are correct, though I am quite surprised at the lack of pushback from the citizens of those states on this.
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@Common Sense
Socialist? Not even close. Economically powerful? Most definitely. And our largesse goes to those free-loading conservative paradises.
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@Jason W
There are plenty of Republicans in all those states living in multi-million dollar mansions but a lot of them like Trump have figured out how to manipulate tax laws so even their homes are "businesses" and therefore they write everything off. I'm sure Melania's million dollar wardrobe is written off as a business expense as well. And a large percentage of the taxes we pay up here in New England are sent to red states down south who don't tax their residents as much so they get federal funds. Maybe you just rent in New York so don't directly pay property taxes, but your landlord does unless he's a Trump or Kushner.
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What does the ability of the Federal government to access my driving record have thing one to do with international travel? Doesn't the Constitution protect my ability to travel domestically? I have a passport, since when does that not prove my citizenship?
Why hasn't this hit the courts?
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When people in New York who have a lot of money but not enough to fly on private airlines and so still fly commercial airlines cannot use TSA Pre and have to stand on long lines to go through security, their anger will be heard loud and clear. First class and frequent flier class won’t get them through the lines faster.
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Thinking on the bright side. When Trump leaves office, this upcoming January I hope, he will likely never be able to set foot in New York again without a throng of protesters yelling and screaming at him. No more NYC restaurants, Broadway plays, and the like.
He can swelter in the heat at Mar a Largo, and watch as the rising sea slowly but surely creeps inundates his property.
Then again, he may return, but in handcuffs, when the SDNY charges him with a multitude of crimes, from money laundering to income tax evasion.
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@cherrylog754 At the moment,Trump's popularity and the unemployment rate suggest that he's likely to be re-elected, though no other president has had such high negative poll ratings, which may alter things.
I hope to see much better turnouts for upcoming Democratic primaries than for the Iowa Caucuses, and I would certainly hope to see a serious Republican primary challenge to Trump, unlikely as that seems, and by now, perhaps impossible.
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@David Martin There are challengers already, but you'd never now it, their candidacies have been blocked at every turn. William Weld, former governor of MA is one of them.
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@cherrylog754
I wish this was true. But on recent walks by Trump Tower and the "Trump International Hotel & Tower New York," there were NO protesters in sight, but instead a huge phalanx of police, police vehicles parked all over place, and barriers and barricades--along with street closings.
The whole atmosphere invoked a police state, not "normal" NYC streets.
And OUR tax dollars are paying for this too!
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"“Despite President Trump’s attempt to punish New Yorkers for passing its own laws and standing up to his xenophobic policies, New York will not back down,” she declared, vowing to defend New York laws against the president’s vindictive actions. “New Yorkers will not be targeted or bullied by an authoritarian thug,” Ms. James said.
Good for Ms. James. The only language Trump understands is the vow to make him "show up in court." As much as he thinks he can ride roughshod over the boundaries between federalism and states rights, he can't. There's a whole body of jurisprudence with numerous precedents set in these line-crossing battles.
Of course, the president doesn't know this. All he knows his belief that acquittal by his own party is tanatamount to giving him absolute dictatorial powers.
See you in court, Mr. President.
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And pleeeese NYC, broadcast it on CNN.
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It is time to start thinking about New York and other Blue States seceding from the Union. Do we really want to be ruled by the Red States that have less people, less education, less tolerance and less economic power?
The Senate has basically declared that Trump is a Dictator.
I want to live is a Democracy.
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@JAY LAGEMANN Sadly this. Why do I financially support the low tax south while they return the favor by making it harder on us ? Why can't we get Federal Money for a Hudson River Tunnel to replace our Steam Age version ? etc.
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@JAY LAGEMANN Two- (or more-) state solutions are always sad and unfortunate but, like divorce, that's the way it has to be sometimes. A declaration of independence would be illegal at this time, and would involve military action, but a reasonable proposal to separate could be proposed in a piece of scholarship or literature. If it takes root in the popular imagination, something could come of it.
When I think of the mass moving and uprooting that would come about, not to mention the bad feelings the moves engender, I shut out the whole thought. Do we want to be like India and Pakistan?
Still, we shouldn't have to live in a state of cold civil war forever.
In other words, I like the idea of secession, but the logistics probably make it impossible.
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@JAY LAGEMANN I share your sentiments, but we have to acknowledge that by escalating the rhetoric regarding secession, Russia officially wins. The not-fascists should still go about finding methods of regaining control through whatever is left of our system of laws, customs, and institutions. Even if doing so feeds our despair, and we ultimately need to switch strategies.
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What the editorial breezily characterizes as a “protective measure” is not a feature of similar laws in other states. You could be more clear about that.
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Donald Trump punishing New Yorkers.
Let’s unite to punish him by electing an intelligent, honorable candidate. If you cannot pronounce Pete’s last name, do not worry. You may simply call him Mr. President.
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@liz liscio Unfortunately, New York and California do not have much voting power under the current electoral system compared with the low-population red states. And that's before even considering POTUS' new found go-ahead to rig the elections in any way he sees fit. I am afraid that New Yorkers can no longer hope to be able to vote him out of office, though we will surely try with all our might!
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These punitive actions taken by Trump underscore a reality that many of us ignored before 2016, but now must accept. Trump has no interest in representing us all. His only concerns are for his voters (a minority of the voting population, by the way). They love him for this, and this is why they're in lockstep with the most unfit president in my lifetime and I'm in my 60's.
The issue not addressed here is that Trump voters and Democratic voters want two different, and incompatible versions of this country. Trump voters want a regime of soft apartheid, where their rights, as whites, are paramount over others. They believe that their "religion" should permit them to discriminate against anyone not like themselves. They believe it is just fine to shove brown skinned children into internment camps on our soil. They love a president who brags about sexually assaulting women. Trump's America is very much the America they want.
Democratic voters want a very different America - a country in which all are given equal opportunities. An America that respects everyone, of every ethnic background and faith. An America that believes health care is a right for all. And an America that follows the rule of law and rejects dictators.
There is no resolving this issue to everyone's satisfaction. Trump voters will continue to be the single largest voting bloc, and they will do anything to preserve what they believe is rightfully, and only, theirs. It is way past time to partition this country.
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Very well said. I don’t know what the endgame of partition would look like, or how it would work. But it might be a lot better than a cold civil war.
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I don’t like living in a dictatorship.
I prefer democracy.
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I said he’d be worse than Nixon. And he is.
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Dear Editorial Board,
The Attorney General of New York's first name is spelled "Letitia".
A likely explanation of Trump's singling out of New York is he seeks to intimidate and retaliate for NY state's pursuit of his tax returns.
What's indisputable is democracy is in big trouble. The tyrant grows further empowered by the day.
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As a native New Yorker, I take Trump's threat as a point of great pride in having been born here.
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45 unleashed by the Senate...
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We from New York look forward to arresting, convicting, and incarcerating ex-President Trump courtesy of his crimes and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.
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@VJR
To be clear; the only reason the coward in chief is so desperate for re election is his false belief that as president he is immune to all the fed, state, and local charges awaiting him. He realizes he's not up tp the job, though he does see it as a source of income for him and is family ... maybe he's tired of faking it.
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@VJR
except Vance has to go... he has been a disaster when it comes to crimes of sexual assault, and has looked the other way at the Trump children malfeasance and sketchy deal making.
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@VJR
We sure do! So much so that I will take off work to sit in court (if allowed). My soul needs a cleansing and this will help lift the rotten, putrid stain.
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The day after Trump was sprung by his cronies, ICE shot someone in the face in Brooklyn. It's at our front door now. We have to deal with this.
Why people haven't taken to the streets like the protests in the Arab Spring, or the demonstrations in South Korea that brought down a corrupt leader, is beyond me.
I know there are white supremacists who support the fascist occupant of the White House, but there are so many millions more who want to have a President we actually elected. Who want government to be by, of, and for the people.
This fascist aggression cannot stand. Trump needs to be removed from office, the 52 senators who enabled his hate yesterday need to be removed from office, every judge, every ambassador, every staffer this administration has given a job, needs to be purged from the halls of government. We need public servants, not crime bosses who would render us serfs.
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When there is no way for some people to continue buying their way out of TSA's time-wasting security theater, perhaps there will be a constituency for replacing it with real security based on real information.
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Ignore the law pay the price.
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@Daphne Unless you're Donald J Trump.
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I don't think this will stand.
Absent extremely compelling data justifying this, discriminating between citizens of states will likely be found to violate constitutional principles of federalism (equal sovereignty between states) and equal protection. See Shelby v. Holder (U.S. 2014).
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@Seb Unfortunately, the GOP-led Senate gave trump a carte blanche to do whatever he wants while simultaneously shredding the constitution. There are no rules of law under the trump administration.
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But doesn't the State have to sue first? The article didn't say anything about a law suit! I was fully expecting to read about it.
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@Seb
Yeah! A lawsuit! That'll stop him, for sure!
So when the case finally gets to SCOTUS, which then rules 9-0 that Trump is violating the law....
Who is going to enforce the ruling?
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The gospel according to St Trump.
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