The article refers to Sanders calling Clinton “unqualified” to be President in the 2016 primary. That comment must be put into context.
Joe Scarborough, in an interview with Hillary, pushed her as to Bernie’s socialistic leanings. She declared Sanders to be incompetent to be President. A very low blow and toxic if Bernie should prevail, albeit unlikely. This is after Bernie fully supported Clinton with regard to her private email server vulnerabilities. Her lack of competency charge was vituperative. Nasty then. Nasty now.
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If in 2016 Hillary and the DNC had put as much time and effort into defeating Donald Trump as they put into undermining Bernie Sanders and his supporters, we would have President Clinton II today.
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How is it possible, years later, that the Times can publish sentences like "Some supporters of Mr. Sanders still argue that the Democratic National Committee “rigged” the rules to help her secure the nomination." Either that accusation is true or it's not. And it's a huge deal. It's the main story of the emails hacked and leaked by the Russians in 2016. It's why Debbie Wasserman Schultz had to resign. It's in a book by Donna Brazile.
I don't understand. Do the Bernie Bros have such enormous power the they control everyone everywhere including Putin? Or did Hillary control the DNC to help her secure the nomination?
What are the facts?
A few years ago, the Times unveiled an official policy to stop reporting on everything as if there were two sides even when the truth is known. Now would be a crucial time to implement that very sound guideline.
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Bernie is not a "Democrat". He never answers the question of why he never became a Democrat. He is a fraud and has no support among non-whites. Also he did mess up Hillary in 2016. Time to dump him. BTW, the Republicans are voting for him to create mischief !!!!
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Hillary Clinton simply has to give it up and go away.
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And you wonder why people like Trump,McConnell et. al. win?
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I really wish one of you 'He's Not A Democrat' people would explain what that means. He's not like Joe Biden? or Elizabeth Warren? .. He's not like Joe Manchin or Dick Durbin? What is the code or issue that makes you a Democrat? ...Abortion rights? .. He's not Republican lite? There's many Democrats that believe what he believes. There's some Republicans that like some of his ideas. But there's Republican's that like some other Democratic ideas, & visa versa. So what's the answer. .. I mean what you are saying is if he stays exactly the same but changes his label, that will be OK? The whole complaint is ridiculous. It's like your not patriotic if you don't wear a flag on your lapel. .. There's plenty of Democrats that believe in Medicare For All. They just know what an undertaking it will be. There's plenty of Democrats that believe the Defense budget is obscene. Every issue right down the line. Maybe they want to take it slower. Bernie is fearless. And he is saying we should get over our fears. The way we are going is a dead end street. No Future ...
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I’m very much in favor of Mrs. Clinton continuing to attend Broadway shows and concerts; traveling to accept honorary degrees and awards; and perhaps return to those walks in the woods as she did after her 2016 defeat. She is narcissistic and polarizing. She needs to go away and stay away.
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Herding cats has always been easier than herding Democrats, let alone leading them by uniting them. Meanwhile, back at the Kremlin and in the Oval, they're having the last laugh over the pettiness of these ego driven squabbles. More's the pity.
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HRC's comments about Sanders were the least newsworthy part of her Stern interview. Their conversation barely touched on him, and only when Stern brought it up. I see on IMDB that her docuseries has a runtime of 4 hours. I will be interested to see how many minutes are actually devoted to criticizing Sanders, given how much news coverage this one comment has already gotten.
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Sanders is a spoiler, he is not electable, his presence ensures a republican victory, as it did in 2016.
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Look who just announced. From Tripoli Libya. There in the wreckage of our civilization. Her civilization. Same as Trump's civilization. Oil fired. Unsustainable. Her grandchildren well positioned. The rest of us drown in diesel fuel.
Senator Sanders still active in his role. Keping Mrs Clinton from doing any more damage. Never used currency of the realm, nor have the pure who deify.
Do keep the camera aimed in the proper direction. The deplorables know all about good angles.
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Bad things happen to good people every day.
People loose jobs. Homes are lost. Babies die. Marriages end. Some people loose everything they own in a natural disaster or wildfire. How many people could raise a hand to say that they had suffered just one of life's injustices?
Mrs. Clinton is bitter about the 2016 election that she lost. She has a right to be bitter.
But her public whining makes her appear petty and small, narrowly focused, even vindictive. It diminishes all of her great achievements.
Mrs Clinton is very high up on the ladder, and so, her loss was very public as opposed to other people who loose "everything" and suffer in silence.
Now is an appropriate time for Mrs. Clinton to "buck-up" and support the Democratic Party or sit down and quietly read the NY Times.
Together we win, divided we loose.
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Hillary was a fan of mass incarceration who supported the abolition of most aid to poor families. She should be quiet and go away.
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She ment' in the Senate when she said nobody likes him, which is an exarggeration but understandable. Most of them take money from the Health Care industry, defense industry, etc. Bernie is like the one guy on the Police Force not on the take. Most of the bills Sanders tries to get going are grand in their nature. Better suited for a President.
Also I have not heard Bill Clinton say anything negative about Bernie Sanders, or any of the candidates, other than we're friends type of thing. So it is unfair to act like he said something.
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Hillary forgets that there are many people who do not like the Clintons. Bernie has strong support among the young. Her timing can only help Trump.
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I still don't know why Obama gave her the job she didn't deserve. Vindictive to her core. Hope she is booed off every stage she gets up on.
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Hate to break it to you, Hillary, but a lot of people like Bernie. He was my choice in ‘16, not you. And face it: if the DNC and NYT hadn’t bent rules and slanted coverage, you quite possibly might never have even been the nominee.
But I held my nose and voted for you because, ultimately, I felt that DJT was seventy times seven more unpalatable - and more dangerous to the body politic.
Your comments show that ultimately, you don’t care about party unification so we can move forward with stemming the tide of dictatorship in this country. All you care about is your own hurt feelings about losing an election that you thought was yours by divine right, no matter what the long term damage is to our country.
You had your time in the spotlight. Please go away.
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so women have to be quite and supportive, suffer silently and keep smiling to be attractive. If the democratic party cannot unify behind their candidate it is Hillarys fault (again) and not the candidates.
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When one of the most recognizable Democrats in the world talks about the possible Democratic nominee for President in such harsh, demeaning terms, yes, she’s out of line. Democrats need to be united to defeat Trump in November.
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HRC was too lofty to visit working class people on their home ground. They are just not her cup of tea. Her kind of 'gutsy' woman is preserved in the limo lib status quo of DNC which cannot get sufficient support themselves. Many of us are looking for the transformation of our nation and society into a place of well-being and good will. The Bros need to put a lid on it, and Sen Sanders needs to let them know that they are turning into lefty thugs if they are not careful. But HRC and her glitzy caviar gauche supporters would do well to appreciate what younger people see as meaningful change, and it is not the status quo of the mighty DNC and the Clintons. Pax, jb
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If everybody is so worked up by something Hillary Clinton says and wants her to keep mum, she must have said something right. The USA (still) has freedom of speech, so get over it and work at voting out Trump and the Republicans. Listen to Bernie when he says Clinton is entitled to her opinion and jokes about his “unlikability”.
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I think she's done enough for the Democratic Party and should sit at the back of the room and observe for a while.
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This from a woman who called the war criminal Henry Kissinger her friend and mentor.
This from the woman faithful to her lecherous husband who took advantage of an intern young enough to be his daughter.
This from a woman who by coincidence is pictured with the likes of the Trumps at their wedding, Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein and other assorted low lifes.
The people she does like have many unsavory things in common.
I’m delighted that she doesn’t like Bernie. In fact, it’s an honor.
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Am I missing something? I thought the 2016 presidential election was over. And yet Hillary has a beef with everyone blames everyone.
Time to grow up.
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Thank god for America that Hillary wasn’t elected. Trump is awful but much more integrity than her.
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@Matsuda lets not get carried away. she has her faults but her virtues are many and she inhabits a different moral universe from Trump.
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Lawyers are free to choose who they will represent. In most cases, Warren chose to defend big corporations because that's where the most money is. If anyone trusts the progressive bona fides of this woman, it's because they themselves are not real progressives. Also a case study in how The New York Times tries to shape public perceptions. Reid Epstein, who was then working for the Wall Street Journal, filed an open-records request with the Riverdale Board of Education on April 2 seeking “to inspect or obtain” copies of public records relating to Warren’s time teaching at Riverdale during the 1970-1971 school year. In response to his request, Epstein on April 10 received school-board minutes that challenge Warren’s version of her story that she got fired for being pregnant, according to documents obtained by National Review through the New Jersey Open Records Act. Epstein, who moved to the Times on April 19, never broke the story. Reached for comment, a Times spokeswoman said that the “records were inconclusive” and the potential story required “further sourcing”.
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It's not Hillary Clinton who risks a split on the Democratic party over Bernie Sanders. It's the candidate himself. Bizarro Trump has managed to pull his cult-like followers to an extreme no-compromise left that is completely unelectable but quite capable of jumping ship if he's not the nominee and securing another four years for Trump.
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This doesn't benefit her personally. She is taking a hit here because she knows Bernie would be a disaster as a nominee. He's a cult figure like Trump and he's divisive and he's not surrounded by great people, but the other candidates can't really attack him because of said cult. She's a patriot and she was right about Trump.
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Bernie is NOT a Democrat. Ask him yourself.
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I voted for Hilary but I didn't really want to as she was a crummy candidate. She sometimes doesn't think about what she says and what the fallout may be regarding her words. She probably lost a substantial number of votes when she called fellow Americans "Deplorables". This gaffe is similar in that it pits democratic voters against one another. I kinda wish she would go away.
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No surprise: Bernie is doing well, time for the Times to reprise 2016: whip out the attacks--Krugman, the editorial board, and now the irrelevant Mrs. Clinton. She wouldn't lower herself to speak to working class people (like myself) and so we got Trump. Circle the wagons and protect your investments!
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Trump must be loving it. Say what you like about the Republicans, but at least they are united and that's what it takes to maintain your seat of power. I personally smell a rat with Bernie and, let's face it, he's not even a Democrat but this type of squabbling does nobody but the media any good.
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Hillary is making crystal clear the reasons we're stuck with Trump and about to lose our democracy. The day he won I told my husband that it's the fault of the Democratic Party, turning away all potential candidates for Clinton dollars.
Disgusting. We had all better wake up, and fast.
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Hillary, and every sentient Democrat, better vote for anyone over Trump. Bernie or a ham sandwich. Either would be better than Trump.
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Clinton: Everyone else is to blame. Sanders is her perfect foil. Looks as if she is still positioning herself to sweep in and save the Dems at a brokered convention. Unfortunately Clintons' refusal to even consider that she (or what she represented) was part of the problem in 2016, shows that many establishment Dems remain clueless. Remember those who said it was "her turn" in 2016? Those who discouraged any other Dems from running? That wasn't Sanders doing; that was the DNC playing its game. Sanders came along and rocked the boat, but it could have been anyone. Point is, there were lots of people who didn't want another Clinton (or another Bush) in the WH. People who were sick of the political status quo with its bought-off politicians doing the bidding for corporate America. Those people haven't gone away and if they end up with Trump vs. another corporate Dem, don't be surprised if they stay home in 2020. Sad.
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Bernie is not a Democrat. He is an independent and used to be in the Socialist Workers Party. After he no longer is running for President on the Democratic side, he will go back to being an Independent. He is an opportunist and an ideologue. Go away Bernie. I am a liberal democrat (not a progressive or another term for leftist)and I will never vote for you.
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And let me guess - Hillary Clinton still can’t figure out why she is perceived as untrustworthy.
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You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends.
Hillary Clinton
So, Mrs. Clinton, are we to conclude you are not a friend of Senator Bernie Sanders?
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Debbie Wasserman-Schultz contrived an unfair primary in 2016 and Donna Brazile fed you debate questions in advance, so I’m sure Bernie has his reservations about you, too. And doubtless that fed into his lack of enthusiasm in backing you, but back you he did in ‘16. Et tu, Hillary?
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I have just had it with the divisiveness! Not to mention, absolutes are rarely true. *Nobody* likes him? I can prove that one wrong all by myself. And, apparently, Bernie's wife likes him too! And, millions of others that work tirelessly to try to get him the nomination, again. This might actually help Tío Bernie. Shove it, Hill.
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Hillary Clinton's comments are more damaging to women than to Senator Sanders, as they reinforce every vile canard and cliche spewed forth by misogynists. She has behaved like a candidate scorned, directing her venom not at Republicans, but at other Democrats, first Tulsi Gabbard, now Bernie Sanders. Her pettiness and immaturity ("Nobody likes him") echo outpourings from the game show host who defeated her in 2016. H.Clinton has always reeked resentment and entitlement, and is so consumed with bitterness that it seems she'd prefer 4 more years of Donald Trump than see another Democrat occupy her former residence which she believes belongs to her.
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Hillary Clinton is old news and Bernie Sanders should be too.
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Having lost the last election for the Democrats - Clinton now tries for another one.
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Axelrod, of all people, should talk. If Hillary hadn't made such a concerted effort to convince her supporters to vote for Obama, McCain might have won in a year that would have been a walk for any Dem. Obama's campaign was rife with sexism and false accusations of racism, all of which must have been approved by Axelrod. She bent over backwards to bring the party together only to get shafted, again, by a bunch of, purportedly, Democratic, men who are just as vicious and misogynist as any Republican breathing.
Sanders, otoh, double-teamed HRC with trump, called her "evil" when she was the presumptive nominee, never tried to shutdown his protesters at the convention as Hillary had done, spent 30 minutes talking about his revolution and 5 talking about HRC, on campaign rallies she paid for.
If Democrats wanted to heal the rift in the party, they should have told Sanders to stay out of the race. He and Warren helped get trump elected in '16. No doubt they'll repeat the feat in '20.
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Nobody likes him. He said a woman couldn't win the Presidency. If he (Pete) were a woman he'd never be where he is right now ... because he would be a woman. (HRC, EW, AK)
These are not arguments of strength. They are the arguments of bitterness.
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HRC is, and has always been toxic and a world-class excuse maker. She lost twice and deserved to both times. And now she's attacking a candidate who campaigned for her in the 2016 general. She's a proven liar and an ingrate and I'm sick of seeing her get any media attention. Some might not get this, but when you make up heroic stories about yourself deplaning under sniper fire in Bosnia - throwing your own secret service under the bus in the bargain - you lose all credibility with voters who value honesty, candor and character.
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She should do herself a favor and just retire. She is not doing her reputation any good.
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Voters do not choose candidates because of their ideological fit. They choose them because of their cultural fit. It's no accident that the first to fully fall for Warren were the post-grad types. The folks who have successfully ascended the meritocracy and jumped through all the collegiate hoops. They fundamentally believe in the system because it's worked for them. They want to help working and lower-class Americans but they don't actually trust them. "I've got a plan for that" is like a magical elixir to this group. Clinton, Warren- the ascenders of the meritocracy will decide what is to be done about these poor struggling denizens of the working class. And then there's Pocahontas. Is it a culturally acceptable nickname? No. Is it brutally effective? Yes. Because what it really signals is that Warren is fake just like Clinton. That she says she's the beer drinking Oklahoma girl when all of the cultural signalings are Harvard professor. That she says she's going to really change things but still wraps herself in the language of capitalism, promises the establishment that she's a 'Team player' and secretly courts Hillary Clinton. She says she's different but she plays the same Washington political games as all the rest.
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Bloomberg is going to roll in with his money train and show all these pretenders who's boss.
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This headline is ridiculous. Why in the world is the New York Times reporting mean girl comments. Not interesting in elementary school, not interesting now. I don't really care who is the most popular kid on the block. I am a single issue voter: Climate. Sanders is the most proactive on climate of the current democrats running. Call him whatever names you wish, but he has my vote.
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Wow! I see her point but to say it out loud.
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Hillary, at this point, is irrelevant. The Democratic party needs to move on .
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Hillary was the most flawed candidate ever. As a lifelong Democrat, I struggled with the idea of voting for her, and eventually did. However I much preferred Bernie and almost everyone I know did too. What a smug, entitled attitude to make such an overreaching statement. Go away Hillary! I’m only glad there will seemingly never be another Clinton in office again.
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An infantile response more likely to be heard on the playground than from a respected party leader. I voted for Hillary and would vote for her again, but I wish that she would recognize the difference between ideas that illuminate and statements that come across as losers remorse.
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Hilary is the one that few people like. She needs to look in the mirror to see why she lost and she needs to go away...far away....Trump would not have won had she not been the candidate.
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I didn't dislike Hillary Clinton before but now I do. And I now understand why she lost.
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There is no doubt that Sanders and his supporters have their part in Trump's win in 2016. Sanders barely supported her at the end, and his supporters never did. In fact I have heard stories of his supporters voting for Trump because they thought it was funny. A ridiculously privileged thing for this supporters to do. Sanders is always blaming his supporters for the things his critics criticize him for..but either it is true that he is leading them or he's not and is instead a poor leader!
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Let's talk about Hillary. As first lady, U.S. senator, and secretary of state, she has successfully served the American people. As the first female presidential nominee of a major party, she has inspired countless others. Her colleagues, both republicans and Democrats, were happy to work with her. She is more effective than other senators (Mr Sanders is even less effective than average). That's why tens of millions of people supported her. That's why the vast majority of lawmakers supported her. That's why I supported her.
Now to sanders. I didn't really have a problem with him at the start of 2016, but as he continued to spread rumors about Hillary (corruption and incompetence), I began to resent him, and that resentment grew as he refused to endorse her for nearly a month after the primaries. Take a look at his face, take a look at his body movements, and you'll see that he's never the one you'd want to chat and eat with. She was right, but once again the media misread her, and she never said she would not support Bernie sanders, who was already the nominee. What I do know is this: Mrs Clinton will not endorse Mr Sanders in the primaries; Mrs Clinton would support Mr Sanders if he became the democratic nominee.
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Hillary is not helpful - at all. Her pathetic campaign enabled Trump. Nice work with Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania and her lack of campaigning in those states. Now her "sage" words are somehow meaningful? No.
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Like Trump, Hillary sees and despises all her own faults in others. "Nobody" likes her, which is why she lost an election to an utterly unqualified candidate. She did worse campaigning for Obama than Bernie did for her. She won't shut up and is convinced of her own righteousness.
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I don’t like Bernie either. Will I vote for him over Trump? Heck yes, but I hope it doesn’t come to that.
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Hillary Clinton remains as at rogant, out of touch and, completely self-serving as when she ran her disastrous presidential campaign. She has never acknowledged the fact that she is the person most responsible for Trump becoming president, and the best she can do is to shut up and not interfere with the campaign.
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Sanders: Joe Biden wants to cut your Social Security and has a corruption problem
Sanders supporters: Bernie is the only one who is authentic and tells it like it is!
Clinton: Bernie is incapable of getting anything done.
Sanders supporters: Will that woman every go away?!
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Mr. Trumps supporters have only just begun to express their support.
Many, many of them can be found on this thread exploiting Clinton's arrogance to tear down Democrats.
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I don't believe either of the major political parties has the best interests of America and Americans as its focus. Nor do the major political players who seem to emerge as presidential candidates.
Bernie Sanders? Donald Trump? Hillary Clinton (of 2016, not 2008)? Sarah Palin?
Unfortunately, most Americans are uninformed, misinformed, unconcerned, apathetic, and largely un-involved in the democratic process that vets and produces candidates at every level from local through state to national positions in the Republican and Democratic parties.
As a result of this two major party failure, America and Americans get the government they deserve -- often incompetent, corrupted, and poorly managed.
It is long past time for more centrist, moderate, progressive candidates. But there is no vehicle available for them given the locks on the system the two major parties maintain.
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Dear Mrs Clinton,
Please keep your thoughts and actions to yourself. You’ve had your day, you’ve had your say. It’s over. You and Bill can enjoy your grandkids and time for reading and travel. Write a book called Almost Camelot. I don’t care. Just let go.
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I guess Trump isn't the only one who can't let go. Sad.
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My Word Hilary Clinton. This sounds like an act of revenge. The enemy is sitting in the White House. Mostly, you are liable for that situation.
Now, you want to - for whatever nonsense reason - sabotage an ex-fellow candidate, whom you, by using foul methods beat in the nomination in 2016.
You had your opportunity. Now, go away and look after your grandchildren or dogs or whatever else is useful.
Sad times for the Democrats and even sadder times for the USA.
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If there were any doubt that Hillary lacks graciousness, this should put it to rest. And then there's the astounding lack of self-knowledge; did she take it as a compliment when Obama said, "You're likable enough, Hillary."?
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Is it not clear that Hillary is not running? How can anyone watch this and not let it go...ancient history?
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Ms. Clinton keeps hanging around like gas in a phone booth and is just as unwelcome. I held my nose when I voted for her in the 2016 general election, but enough is enough.
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Not enough voters liked her.
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Go ahead, Hillary. You're only helping Bernie with her entitled criticism.
Your refusal to commit to voting for ANY Democrat in the 2020 election tells us all we need to know about the Democratic elite that lost an election of existential importance, and is now about to do the same.
Except this time, I doubt any voter, any Democrat, will listen to a thing they say.
You ran for president twice, Hillary, and you lost twice - to an "unelectable" black junior Senator and to an even less electable failed real estate mogul /reality show host. Whether you got more votes is irrelevant to the result. Stop it already.
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“Nobody likes her; nobody wants to work for her” sounds a lot what happened in 2016. So what is she actually saying?
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Does Mrs Clinton realise that her attitude and behaviour contributed to Donald Trump being elected?
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It saddens me to see that every thing going on in the Democrat party is really just amounting to 4 more years of Trump.
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And she still wonders why she lost the election.
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Hillary is being reckless. She’s putting Ego before the common good, even though we’re on the climate precipice and Bernie is the candidate of the Sunrise Movement and has an A rating from Greenpeace.
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HRC’s self-serving promotion is Trumpian in its narcissism. Finally her true colors are flying for all to see.
It’s going to be a tough campaign; wIth all the disinformation spewing out of the mouths of Trump and his henchmen in the Senate and on Fox, the last thing we need is this kind of self-inflicted wound. I think Sundance should cancel the screening and Hulu should reschedule airing it until sometime late in 2021. How about #cancelthepremiere or #hillarygoaway. Or both.
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Good for Mrs. Clinton. I still don't understand how a proclaimed socialist could run for president in the Democratic primary.
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So many still underestimate Hillary's wit and wits. She's purposely drawing all the slings and arrows aimed at Elizabeth Warren for confronting Bernie Sanders at the last debate. Elizabeth said the men on the stage had lost 10 elections, but she was kind enough not to say that Bernie alone had lost 7 elections for Governor or Senator.
Immediately, the media and Bernie Bros tackled Warren for being divisive.
Warren and Sanders took pains to hold hands and grin broadly in their next public event together...as if to say, hey it was just a little spat between friends. And perhaps it was.
But Hillary learned a lot of ugly lessons in 2008 and in 2016, one of which is women aren't allowed to show anger publicly, and especially not against white men, lest they lose status.
This week Hillary had to get some quotes ready for the launch of a feature documentary about her @Sundance. She could have picked some pithy stuff about her own life --there's a lot of material already media-tested --but instead she pivoted, and zeroed in on how Bernie is a fraud.
Hillary knew that en masse the media elite and not so elite would turn from punishing Elizabeth for showing her anger and aim their arrows, spears, threats and beers in her direction.
Thanks, Hillary.
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Does Clinton want to see trump reelected? Sure seems that way.
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So she did it again. Next she’s going to confirm that Sanders is a socialist, and finally return to being on Mar-a-Lago’s invitees list
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The Democratic Party was already deeply divided before Hillary said a word, and it will remain so no matter what anyone says.
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@klm
You’re right. This reflects a deeper class conflict within its various wings. Clinton has never hidden her allegiance to the financial sector
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Ted Cruz was the least popular and most hated right-winger among his fellow Senators, something more than one of those in his own party acknowledged at the time.
That wasn't merely cathartic trash-talk for those colleagues, it was a helpful thing for voters to know given the fact that any potential president's legislative agenda has to be embraced, digested and passed (pun intended) by a supermajority of those colleagues.
That Cruz was second-to-last man standing in an empirically overcrowded field on the right, as Sanders was in a far smaller and—other than Clinton—somewhat undistinguished field on the left, speaks to how stubborn unlikeability actually emerges an attractive feature to a subset of voters in the upside-down, hate-fueled social-media world we live in, as well as to where the fringes of both parties meet on the other side.
Trump was the last choice of the vast majority of Republicans among that large field in 2015-'16, the problem was for Republicans then as with Democrats now, too many candidates in the same lane cannibalized each other's base and took potshots at colleagues they ought to support.
Nobody but Trump's base takes seriously the idea he actually had a legislative agenda, he's just nominating judges and reversing the work of Democratic presidents and first ladies while Paul Ryan's tax plan balloons our deficits. Similarly, Sanders' base would be in for a rude awakening were he to actually have to try and do what he's spoken about for so long.
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Bernie Sanders was a Russian asset last time around, treated women staff as second class citizens, paying them less, and did Trump's dirty work attacking the woman candidate. So it's happening again. And the geezer isn't even a Democrat and had done little too nothing in the Senate before deciding to run other than rename a few post offices. No more attacks on millionaires now that he is one, and as far as leading the fight on climate change let's talk about the private jet to Rome to meet the Pope. The man's a hack, bottom line....
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Is she serious? The candidate who forgot the Midwest? If more people were fond of her, if her own likability were higher, this whole Trump disaster never happens. And now she risks party civil war. A little self knowledge would be a good thing here. Sometimes it’s better to keep things to yourself-whether it’s true or not, this isn’t the time. The arrogance exhibited here is equal to anything demonstrated by Trump.
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Clinton had the second worst favorability/likability ratings since that was tracked.
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Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, still the poster child for the Demo version of corruption in our economic system, still responsible for losing an election to the worst presidential candidate in any living person's memory, and still living proof of the notion that the Democratic Party establishment and their elite backers would rather lose to a Republican than see a progressive Democrat elected. Ugh. No wonder so many people failed to get off their couches and turn out for you in 2016.
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I wish Hillary were President.
That being said, she must be one of the most tone-deaf politicians around. Bernie's chances just rose by a few points: no greater badge of honor exists among swayable voters on the right than a vicious attack by Hillary. It's not how it should be, but after decades of vilification of her, it is nevertheless a fact.
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I think there are two lessons here:
1.) In the face of bitter disappointment, take the high road and behave with grace and humility.
2.) In the face of a global menace, the Democrats must unite, rather than eat their own.
Do not attack your fellow Democrats, attack the menace.
Again, and again, and again.
Stay focused on the goal—with laser-like precision— on dumping Trump.
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Thanks Hillary, just what our nation needs right now, you trying to drum up and audience. I'm with you on this one thing, no one wants to see your movie.
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Hillary should take the high road and agree to endorse the future nominee, who ever it may be. Lets not have repeat of throw away votes for Jill Stein and sit outs.
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I usually pitch in $27 to the Bernie campaign every few weeks, but after reading this I gave alot more tonight. Hope others do the same.
Please Vote Blue this November, no matter who the nominee is. Let's unite and defeat Trump. The Clintons are old news. Ignore the hate. Please unite!
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This from a woman who lost to Donald Trump because people don't like her.
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I still don't understand, when our shared American heritage is balancing on the choice between our traditional liberal democracy versus a quixotic form of oligarchy/autocracy/fascism, how anyone calling themselves a liberal or even just a democrat, could make such a statement at this point in history.
Fodder for Fox, for sure. Thanks a lot, Hill.
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Might be true about Bernie, might not. But saying such a thing at this juncture may serve to reelect Trump. Somebody please give this woman and chew toy and send her out to the back yard until 2021.
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It’d be dignified for her to keep quiet and let the party sort it out!
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Hillary, there may be weaknesses in Bernie, but he's clearly better than Trump. Bernie has a huge following and impressive fundraising. You better stop trashing before it backfires and we get a repeat of 2016. Each Democratic candidate has weaknesses but Trump has tenfold more and will destroy that which holds America together, so you should only criticize him. Your lack of control is dangerous.
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The fact that these two reporters attended Ivy League universities tells you all you need to know about what is wrong with Hillary Clinton, the New York Times and the Washington elites that believe they have a birthright to lead and be obeyed by the rest of us, or else.
These are people who spend their entire formative years training to climb over the heads of their peers to squeeze into branding clubs out of which, 4 years later and with a teflon diploma containing as little hard science as possible, emerge as "elite."
More and more I realize the wisdom and strength of Trump voters. They endure ridicule and abuse, but have clearly identified exactly where the cancer of America lies: within its own ruling class.
If Bernie Sanders doesn't win, I hope Trump wins again and permanently shuts out the class that did absolutely nothing good for this country nor the world for the past quarter century.
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This is one of the reasons why Clinton did not win in last elections. She's too divisive.This sounds so Trumpian. Creating all this acrimony at this point in the game is not good politics. She should remain quiet in retirement for the good of the party and the country. She and her husband are no longer the party bosses. Time to enjoy their millions in private life and say goodbye to politics. Make an elegant exit. And the NYT should not be adding fuel to the fire by amplifying these comments now for days to come. Let's do responsible journalism.
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Initially I had respect for HRC. Then I saw her as flawed and arrogant. Now i find her Petty. Shame, because she is smart. At this time, she should move out of the public arena and take her fortune and work with charities to support the many needs of the world. Watch what people do, don’t listen to what they say.
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It's simple really. If Bernie is the nominee Trump will walk it. It will be a Jeremy Corbyn situation with an unelectable leader and an army of deluded supporters taking the party into oblivion
I am a Trump hater but i would rather take Trump than Bernie.
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Hillary is correct when she says that Bernie got nothing done while wasting Vermont's money and representation in the Senate.
In his efforts to get this nomination either time, there has been nothing mentioned like his name on a bill or his having changed anything while on a committee.
Having done nothing was a great help to an Illinois Senator running for the White House in 2008 after only showing up at the Capitol 153 times; Mr. Obama had ZERO history, which meant nothing for people to complain about.
But being in your seventies with zero accomplishments is an odd badge of honor despite the multiple homes thing.
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Poor Hillary.
She blew the 2008 Democratic nomination for president by fatally underestimating a junior senator from Illinois and then blew the 2016 election by overestimating her support in key battleground states and falling short in the electoral college.
Clinton's very bitter and remains utterly unable to put any of the blame for her two defeats on herself and feels the need from time to time to strike out at others for her failures. Clinton felt entitled to be president in 2008 and in 2016 and she was wrong. It doesn't work that way.
Clinton would do a great service to the country if she would let it rest and allow the 2020 Democratic nomination process to play out without her unwelcome and potentially destructive intervention. She is the past whether she knows it or not and the Democrats need to look to the future.
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The problem with Bernie are not his policies - they are fine. The problem is his personality and his lack of warmth. Would you want to share lunch with this guy? He seems insufferable to me and he is also slightly older than me. I don't vote for people who are older than me - they can collapse any minute - so, as far as I am concerned don't waste your vote on Bernie.
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With a comment like that less people are going to like Hillary. There are many reasons why Hillary lost the election - Comey's ill-timed & ill-advised statement about her emails, she ran an uninspired campaign & too many Bernie supporters refused to vote for her as thr nominee partly because they were ruled by hate & not realizing what a Dire Threat trump posed to OUR Country & the World. You would think at this point Everyone on the Left would realize that about trump & hence do Everything in their power to make sure trump Does Not get a 2nd term!
So Hillary, Bernie, Elizabeth & the other candidates Please Work Together to Defeat the Greatest Internal Threat OUR Country has faced since the Civil war, Please.
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More Clinton entitlement. Does HRC forget how she corrupted the Democratic Party itself to sabotage Bernie Sanders' campaign? (Hint: Debbie Wasserman Schultz). Does she really believe that all those who voted for her in the general election did so out of real enthusiasm or because she was the Democratic candidate? What did she do to avoid Russian interference with the election?
I'm going to donate again to Bernie's campaign right now. He has a moral center, something the Clintons have never valued in their lust for power.
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Its probably too late to add much here that's likely to get noticed.
But here goes: I wish the fanatical supporters of Sanders could get one thing: the Supreme Court.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's continuing good health is the only thing that stands between us and an oligarchy of the corporations and super rich families, backing a completely unchecked president.
And why is she that only thing? Because YOU didn't vote for Hillary!
I'm not wild about her either, but that's the truth. The Republican Party is completely uncompromising, reactionary, and hypocritical, but none of that would matter if they hadn't won the White House!
But they did. And why? Because you wanted to protest that we can't turn America into Finland?
Don't get me wrong, I'd like that too. But right how we need to keep America America--So stop the pointless infighting before the 5th ultra-conservative justice is installed and ends representative government as we know it.
Yes, its that important!
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Everyone saw the DNC and Sec Clinton steal the primary from Sen Sanders, even if they won't admit it. Evidence exists that Bernie would have won the primary without the long-term fixing of multiple systems to guarantee Sec Clinton 'her turn.' Now they say it's Joe Biden's 'turn.' The DNC has been committing political malpractice for decades. Look at our lost opportunities. Gore, Kerry, Clinton. We would not have a GOP Senate majority without DNC fixes. Time to let the people decide who they want for President instead of deals made in back rooms.
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Hillary's comment about Bernie's supposed non-likeability would be laughable if it weren't aimed to undercut him just before the primaries---just like she and the DNC worked to undermine him in the last ones. As a white, progressive feminist, I have always felt that Hillary represents the financial elite and militaristic voices in our political system. No wonder she doesn't like Bernie-- a political leader who has consistently confronted and fought the sectors she represents. That's why so many people actually like Bernie.
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It wasn't Hillary's time in 2016, and it isn't her time now.
Time for her to be gracious about the campaigning support that she did get from Bernie, take responsibility for her own loss, and either be helpful now, or stay in the background.
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When the Democratic candidate for President is finally chosen, I wonder if she or he will actively seek Hillary's support on the campaign trial. My best guess is "no".
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It is deeply concerning that Democrats who support Sanders are dismissing the independent observations of two prominent women. Just as concerning is the commentary that these criticisms ought to be censored “for the good of the party.” A bit hypocritical for a party claiming the moral high ground.
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First of all, Bernie Sanders isn't even a member of the party whose nomination he seeks. If he wants this Democrat to vote for him he can start by trading that "I" for a "D".
Secondly, he'd make a lousy President. Clinton is right about one thing, at least, and it might be the most important. In all his years in the Senate he's accomplished nothing. The only thing he seems to be good at is being angry and left wing intransigence isn't any better than right.
Third, he might be the only one left in the running who can't beat the worst president in history. Americans are the only people in the world still afraid of communists and socialists. He won't win.
As others have said, despite what one might think of Clinton, it doesn't make her wrong this time.
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To make sure this viewpoint is expressed in these comments: whatever. What's the news here? That Hillary Clinton doesn't like Bernie Sanders that much and made the mistake of saying it a little too directly? This kind of story is mostly a distraction.
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Interestingly, of all the people I know who openly dislike Hillary, the most visceral by far are women. I'm not sure what that says, but thought I'd put it out there to possibly compare notes with others.
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@Abraham
This woman lost respect for her when she decided appearances and the privilege of staying with a philandering husband who had shamed her countless times were more important than self-regard.
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Hillary is correct, and millions of us are glad she speaks out against Sanders’ attempt to kidnap the Democratic Party. SANDERS IS NOT A DEMOCRAT! The majority of Democrats rejected him in 2016, and we reject him now.
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How about that other Democratic demagogue? The one who proposed a second bill of rights : Every American is entitled to .... a job ... An adequate wage and decent living ... A decent home ... ... Economic protection during sickness, old age or unemployment .... medical care ... a good education. Or the demagogue who followed him and tried to ghet universal free or very cheap day care. ... Or perhaps those demagogues and Sanders represent the real Democratic party and not the commentators smug with investment portfolios, generous medical insurance coverage, and a secure future, things not enjoyed by the bottom 50% of the US population.
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we will unify behind the candidate. No denying she was treated very badly but now is the time to focus on saving our democracy from the corruption of trump.
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It would behoove Mrs Clinton to refrain from making any comment or taking any action in this election cycle. Her attacks aimed at Senator Sanders express an inability to take responsibility for her defeat in 2016 and only make a messy primary even messier and unnecessarily heated. Do you not recognize, Mrs. Clinton, that millions of disaffected Democrats and Independents do not want to hear from you? Work with your husband’s foundation. Your time has passed.
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I think I would prefer to vote for someone who has gotten nothing done than someone whose achievements are counterproductive and destructive.
Ms Clinton has achieved a lot. Negatively. Her policies as Secretary of State to overthrow a subdued former despot, Qaddafi, have turned that country into a land of chaos. Moreover, it served as a lesson to other despots, such as exist in North Korea and Iran, that stripping oneself of all nuclear capability makes as much sense as a sea urchin ridding itself of its spines. She made de-nuclearization an impossible task to achieve in the future.
And unlike Hillary, the giver of over 50 weekly $225K speeches delivered to those seeking influence in a future White House while "resting up" for a Presidential run, Sanders political achievements are gigantic. He fathered the current Progressive movement in the United States. He has put the political discussion in a new and refreshing direction. Mrs. Clinton was also concerned about inequality in wealth distribution, but she addressed it by seeking more personal wealth to raise herself higher into the economically privileged class.
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I personally think that Bernie's campaign in 2016 was not, at first, an attempt to win the election at all but rather to influence the political narrative of the campaign - drive the Democratic platform to the left, as it were. By the time he saw he actually had a chance of winning, he was already playing catch-up to Hillary who'd spent years preparing her campaign and building her name.
Too little, too late, by a relatively unknown Senator who first had to built up name recognition from scratch outside his home state. That summarizes Bernie's campaign.
He lost fair and square, and it was his fault. How this translated into "Hillary stole the nomination" or "The DNC rigged the election" is something the Bernie Bros have yet to explain. Which they won't, because it would require engaging with others in a coherent manner.
And now he's 77, and a recent heart-attack survivor. Why can't he just hand the baton to Warren, who agrees with him on 95% of issues? Because he wants the power and glory. It's gone to his head.
He won't get the nomination and - once again - it will be the fault of the DNC and Hillary and the rigged system and rich people and Wall Street - and grumpy Bernie and his nihilistic followers will spitefully work to get Trump elected again: if they can't have everything, they'd rather nobody have anything.
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Clinton outspent Trump 2 to 1, she had the endorsement of every major paper and publication in the country (including conservative ones), nearly every corporate news station endorsed her along with all of Hollywood, she had name brand recognition, was a career politician and STILL lost to Trump.
Corporate democratic centrists haven't won a presidential election in almost 20yrs (regardless of gender). Obama sold himself as a progressive 'agent of change' and won before quickly losing approval as the reality of his subservience to Wall St. and corporate interests emerged.
Sanders routinely wins in polls against Trump - most importantly in swing states. He has out raised every other campaign and inspired some of the most popular female candidates to run for office that are now in congress (AOC) and his base is mostly women of color. (How's that for feminism?) He also has the widest and most diehard grass roots supporters to mobilize for him in a general election. Finally his appeal cuts across party lines.
Sanders supporters already shamed into voting for the 'lesser of 2 evils once' while witnessing the endless smears and bias of papers like the NYT, widely see Sanders as the last off ramp before the apocalypse and are the least likely to 'vote blue no matter who,' (centrists being the most likely). Centrists have nothing to offer Sanders' voters, but Sanders does have something for centrists - victory.
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Bernie is a socialist version of Trump - he believes that he is always right, he has to have his way, and he won't compromise. Bernie split the party in 2012 and took a long time to support Hillary as the nominee because of his own sour grapes.
The US is not a socialist country. Bernie cannot win in middle America but he will be all too happy to split the party again, which will mean 4 more years of Trump. The Democrats need a centrist candidate with a strong agenda, not a raving Old Testament-like prophet.
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Now that the "electability" argument has become obviously absurd and consequently toxic are we going to simply relabel it to "nobody likes him"? It's the exact same argument in either case - 'nobody likes him' = 'nobody will vote for/with him.'
Many of the criticisms here don't even make sense. The suggestion is that Sanders is disproportionately supported by only those who share his extreme politics? A reasonable sized chunk of Sanders supporters ended up voting for Trump! Almost certainly more than enough to have shifted the election.
That says two things.
1) This electability argument, which is now being repackaged and rehashed, is exactly why President Trump is in office today.
2) Sanders has the most politically diverse base there is in politics today. And that is a huge plus for making progress and uniting this country. Politically, Trump and Sanders could not be much further apart. However, ideologically I think many see them as paradoxically similar. What I mean there is that both are people who, in spite of their own idiosyncrasies (and politics), seem genuinely interested in advancing the interests of the nation instead, and not their own political careers/legacy/ego/wealth. And that is an extremely rare trait in DC today.
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The ruling class is scared of what Bernie’s movement represents. It’s not the man but what symbolizes. Expect more attacks like this
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With hundreds of millions of dollars in wealth and questionable but high speaking fees from WallStreet, Hillary is a lot closer to Donald Trump and very far removed from Bernie. Any surprise she dislikes him?
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Hillary has every right and even an obligation to express her view, shared by most Democrats in the polls, that Bernie is not her first choice and would be defeated by Trump. It is her view, probably shared by Bill Clinton. Don't the Democrats deserve to know what she thinks before the Iowa caucuses? Of course. Especially after Bernie dishonestly doctored the video of Biden actually supporting Social Security. To make it appear as if Biden was in favor of reducing Social Security. Is that the kind of honesty we need in a Democratic president?
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Get a grip, folks. She said she'd back the Democratic candidate. That's good enough for me.
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I respect Bernie, but Hillary is right, he really hasn’t done much in the Senate. And let’s face it, it takes a lot of arrogance to run for the Democratic nomination when you aren’t willing to otherwise call yourself a Democrat.
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Mrs. Clinton would do best to enjoy retirement without roiling the waters. She was an atrocious candidate who was unable or unwilling to get out of the way for real change. She ran as the "entitled" insider much like Hubert Humphrey decades ago--and that gave us Nixon. I supported Bernie in the primaries 4 years ago,will vote for him again in March, and with gusto in November. Assuming no massive voter suppression or non counting of ballots, we can clean the filth out of Augean House
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The sanctimony of Bernie supporters turned me off in 2016. It’s even worse now.
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I logically understand the pushback on the timing of Hillary's truth. It's well timed with Rick Wilson's book sub-titled "A plot to save Republicans from Trump, and Democrats from Themselves."
Nonetheless, when Trump is at his most boorish with vulnerable Americans or most embarrassing on the global stage, the wound rips open (from the Russians + Comey + Bernie + Trump campaigners) and stings like a...
Personally, I loathe Bernie as the Presidential Nominee for some of the reasons mentioned in this section. I just didn't get the memo that the majority of Americans seek such a radical shift in the balance from liberté to egalité. Nonetheless, I respect him as a provocateur and a representative of the underdog which is needed in Congress. And yes, I would vote for him as the Nominee, and just push my Congressional representatives to not support all that Bernie would attempt to push thru. We live in a Democracy, after all.
What at best, does Hillary's criticism serve? Perhaps to remember that Trump rarely addressed Bernie in the lead up to the Primary; he was never a perceived threat on the national level. Just look at the fierce resistance to Obamacare, and Bernie wants nationalized medicine? It's important to take note of this, as Trump is a shrewd competitor and PR machine. And Bernie is not so appealing to a sizable population of dependable Blue voters.
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@Maura
I think you hit on the most important point there is. Our system still has an immense system of checks and balances.
The only reason this has been failing is in recent decades is because both parties tend to be indentured to corporate interests.
This is why I think increasingly that putting people into office whose "heart" is in the right place is more important than putting people into office that I agree with.
I tend to disagree, quite strongly, with Bernie on most of his political views. Nonetheless, I think he would make an excellent president. In spite of the fact that I'm not fond of his politics, I have little doubt that he is genuine and that his primary goal is to make America a better place for all, with a primary focus on an interest of the working class that are the very foundation of the health of our society.
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@Jaymes
Both parties have contributed to the erosion of checks and balances. They have also worked to make it nearly impossible for a third party to emerge. Given our past history it would have been quite likely for another party to emerge by now - given the current situation. But neither the Republicans or Democrats want to lose any power and they have worked to maintain their lock on the political system.
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@Maura There's a reason the French Revolution set up this triad of principles. And that is, we need all three elements: liberty without equal rights, equal opportunities and social solidarity ends up being liberty only for the rich.
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It is strangely astonishing how strong the opposing camps' respective hatreds of Sanders and Clinton here are. All these characterizations are wildly exaggerated. Sanders is not a fanatical leftist demagogue, and Clinton is not an arrogant elitist either. Sanders is a social democrat, Clinton is a democratic centrist. Why vilify them? Sanders' followers are no surprise either: the American left (if his followers even deserve that description) has never thought much of modern American liberalism or the Democratic party.
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I fear that Hillary is not quite well and for some reason she is no longer filtering her thoughts. Moreover, she apparently thinks it matters what she says. Reminds me of the outbursts and impolitic comments made by Margaret Thatcher later in her life after she became irrelevant.
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Proving yet again how completely out of touch she is. She ran a terrible campaign last go around, leading to this nightmare we’re living in now, and thee words will only strengthen Trump’s position by sowing more division amongst people on the left.
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I am sure Sanders is not easy to work with and equally sure that he has done little of substance during his 30 years in Congress. Clinton has been ranked thru the coals multiple times throughout her life and I am glad she is speaking her mind. Sanders played dirty with her just as he is doing with Warren. While many of Sanders' ideas are good, he has never advanced any of them and that could be because he is disliked by so many of his colleagues. He would be a terrible President and hopefully never will be, though he would still be miles above the current corrupt one we have in the White House today.
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@Philip W sanders played dirty?
Are you aware the entire DNC colluded with HRC against him? Holy smokes get with it!
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Hillary's followers chased me off of Facebook. It was her followers who posted child pornography on Bernie group sites and reported them. Toward the end of the primary, the group sites were infiltrated with Hilary tolls and porn spam. They tortured us until I deleted my account It was a Hillary supporter, actor Wendell Pierce, who attacked a FEMALE Bernie supporter, grabbing her by the hair in a hotel. He was charged with assault and completed a diversion program as part of his sentence. It was Hillary supporters who accused young women of supporting Bernie, just because they want to get a guy, because why else would they be interested in politics?
Hillary is bitter that Bernie stayed in the race until the end and she feels that somehow disadvantaged her. Poor Hillary. Why she would open old wounds, as if she is the only one who has them? I have a few of those myself. I felt stabbed in the heart when, before California's polls opened, AP announced that a survey of "super-delegates," who, of course, wished to remain anonymous, gave Hillary enough delegates to win the primary. I can't imagine how Bernie felt when he won Wyoming by 12 points and the press added super-delegates to Hillary's tally, when super-delegates have never in history ever voted, and Hillary appeared to win more delegates than Bernie.
Hillary is no victim. She plotted, planned and schemed and still she lost. I wish that she would let it go and move on with what is left of her life
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And I thought Clinton's attempted defense of her ties to Harvey Weinstein was repulsive enough. Now this?
I watched HBO talk show host Bill Maher float the idea weeks ago that perhaps the time had come for the 2020 Democratic Convention to consider taking a pass on the Clintons. My immediate reaction was "That might be a bit too soon."
No longer. It can't come soon enough. It was bad enough that Clinton and her status quo DLC hacks couldn't stay out of their own way in clumsy attempts at colluding and conspiring to subvert the nomination process in 2016 ( Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazille ). It's worse in 2020 when She insists on getting in everybody else's way trying to re-ignite a fire that burned the party's credibility with too many voters once already.
Clinton had her shot and blew it against the most disliked Republican nominee in history. It wasn't Sanders's positions or demeanor that caused that and certainly wasn't his primary voters that caused it either. It was her and the horrible strategic advice of the people she placed her trust in.
Clinton needs to follow Obama's lead - Stay out of the way. And take the private server with her.
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You say it wasn’t Sanders’ positions or voters that caused the debacle we are now in but you are wrong. Just looking at the vote in Michigan you can see that the sulky Bernie bros and other HRC haters gave the election to Trump: 80,000 voters left blank the presidential part of the ballot, 50,000 votes went to Jill Stein and 120,000 votes to Gary Johnson. Trump was able to win Michigan by less than 11,000 votes.
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Hillary Clinton is practicing the apex of purity politics, not committing to voting for the nominee. I thought this sort of thing was divisive and would undermine “unity” which is another buzzword trotted out so often. Clinton loves purity politics and disunity, and continues to inject unnecessary tension and conflict into a primary race she isn’t running in. For what? Publicity for a Hulu documentary about herself. This doesn’t help. Promote your products—fine—but why add fuel to the fire just for self-promotion.
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I strongly disagree with Bernie Sanders on policy and will not be voting for him, but I have yet to see a politician as unlikeable as Hilary Clinton and god knows I've tried. And no, no man is influencing me on this, thanks.
Agree with him or not, Bernie Sanders is sincere in his compassion and desire to help people. I may disagree with him on his methods but I respect him. I like him. Hilary Clinton embodies the politics in our country that has promoted inequality, corruption, and endless wars. That she would continually and endlessly bad-mouth someone who is exactly the opposite of that is viscerally hateful.
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Sincere? How is that when he knows very well that the fairy tales he tells haven’t the slightest chance of being reality? He’s accomplished NOTHING in THIRTY years in Congress. What possibly makes people think he’s suddenly going to make
Miracles happen? Anything he’s ever done PALES in comparison with what Hillary has accomplished for people. Maybe do a little research for god’s sake.
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Hillary Clinton is not welcome to take potshots at the Democratic candidates. She had her chance and she blew it.
Now she should just fade away. Her comments are not helpful and do little to preserve goodwill.
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Cranky old lady calls grumpy old man unlikable.
Put age limits on presidential candidates. Running a country isn't something you do in retirement. It takes vigor, an open mind, and dare I say it, a vested interest in the future. These are not things that come with age.
Experience does. These septuagenarians should be offering their expertise to candidates of an appropriate age for this job. Then we could stop acting like it's normal or desirable behavior to go back to work after a heart attack and say "sure, I've got four years leading the free world in me, easy! look how many rallies I can shake hands at!"
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I was and still am a great admirer of Hillary BUT this stuff does NOT help anyone or with anything constructive at the present time. I’m not crazy about Bernie and never have been BUT let’s leave it to the Republicans to throw shade at the Democrats. They don’t need any help digging up dirt on anyone. In fact, just as Warren showed herself to be “small” in refusing to shake Sanders’ hand during the last debate so too is this attack from Hillary only working to help the mindless Republicans.
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To any and all who defend Hillary for this remark, please consider the following:
Irrespective of what you think of Bernie, his platform or his supporters, the fact is he has a consistent and devoted constituency. Until today, Democrats across the spectrum have been unanimous about the need to unite behind a candidate in order to defeat Donald Trump
Now ask yourselves, honestly (if you dare): Do you honestly think this kind of score settling serves the cause of party unity, and hence of defeating Trump, in any way?
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Bernie is the only honest candidate the Democrats have--I highly doubt he would win against President Trump, but that goes for all of the Democrats. At least Bernie is consistent in what he says unlike Warren. Most likely the DNC will force Biden on the Democrats with a resulting loss.
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Hillary’s just getting even, andstill putting herself first. Maybe nobody likes Sanders. But a very many people don’t like Mrs. Clinton very much either. I don’t, and I voted for her because she was nevertheless very qualified and the obvious better choice. If more people had actually liked her she might be planning a reelection campaign now instead of lobbing hand grenades from West Chester at a fellow Democrat who is seriously in the running. Her preferred candidate is still herself. I wonder what she thinks of Warren? No doubt we’ll eventually know.
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Trying to lift up Elizabeth Warren (and halt Biden, to settle an old score) by tearing Bernie Sanders down simply spotlights Clinton without helping Warren. Clinton could have spotlighted Warren by putting a more positive focus on her record.
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Why try to influence when it looks more like manipulation? So disappointed in this mean mindedness.
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I agree 100% with Hillary Clinton! And if by some knuckle-headed quirk of fate Bernie Sanders becomes the Democratic nominee he will likely lose in a landslide. But should he win I don't believe he will make a good President.
In my view, Sanders is simply the radical left version of Donald Trump. And I say this as a Democrat. Although, to be clear, Sanders is not a Democrat -- maybe he has registered as one to take advantage of the Democratic structure -- but he is not a Democrat. So I do not believe that, technically, I am criticizing a fellow Dem. That said, Sanders, like Trump, has his solid base that will follow him like the Pied Piper right over the cliff.
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I like Hillary, for the most part. But I think Hillary's timing is way off the mark. There's a trial going on. We have a problem here folks, and you know who it is.
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We wouldn’t have this problem if it wasn’t for good ol’ Bernie. He put the problem in office.
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Can she just step aside and stop being a dividing force?
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Can’t Hillary understand that she just needs to go away? Completely remove herself from political life and the public eye? That is why she is unelectable - she never went away.
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No one likes Sanders. Alright. Here is one for you Hillary. Here in Washington State, 1/3 of the Democratic presidential electors decided to vote for someone else in your last election. Three voted for Colin Powell and one voted for Faith Spotted Eagle. These two were not even running for office yet electors who had pledged to vote for you, bailed on you. These were not Bernie-or-Busters, they voted for people who were not even running for office rather than you.
I can't help but notice that Hillary has not endorsed Biden even though they were the same administration. But, neither has Obama for that matter.
The Democrats under Obama/Biden/Clinton lost the House, then the Senate, federal judges, the White House and now the Supreme Court. Tell the three of them to take their money and get lost already. They are the best thing that ever happened to the Republican Party.
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There is a time and place when one should gracefully exit the stage.
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The DNC let her take control of the party and did not give Bernie a chance. We will never know if he could have won in the general, but we know that she lost. She lost the electoral college which is the determining factor in deciding our presidential elections. People will repeat over and over that she won the popular vote, but that was not based on her likability.
Voters in California came out in big numbers to a give her a win that in the end did not count according to the rules.
I heard a lot of praise from my democratic friends for Hillary Clinton, her qualifications, her policies. Never, not once, didn’t I hear anyone say she was likea le.
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Well I guess I'm a nobody, because I do like Bernie, though I'm not sure I'll vote for him in a Democratic primary. I did vote for Hillary, despite the fact that I didn't like her.
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I think this article points even more clearly to the fact that my party is hopelessly ensconced in their own hermetically-sealed echo chambers. The 2016 election was Clinton's to lose and one of the biggest reasons she lost is that she's so unpopular with so many Americans. The same label can be applied to Sanders, but for different reasons. The other troubling factor is how so many intelligent and well-meaning people can just ignore American political history. NO liberal or left-wing politician has ever won the White House, but that's not because the Democrats haven't tried. Who does end up winning? Moderates, populists and 'popular' people that the plebes can relate to.
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@KCF moderates haven't won a presidential election in almost 20yrs. Obama sold himself as a progressive before reality revealed otherwise. Sanders and the people he inspires to run for office like AOC are the most popular politicians in the country and raising historic amounts of money. Sanders consistently wins in polls comparing him in a head to head with Trump - most importantly in swing states. The idea that Sanders couldn't win is an idea only a bourgeois out of touch NYT reader could believe.
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I think when we did away with the boss system of politics, and substituted primaries we Weeknd the DNC. Usually the bosses kept an eye on politicians careers and how they conduct themselves before moving candidates up the ladder. When candidates and primaries replace the boss is it undermined The party structure Needed to win elections because the candidates often brought their own teams in with them. The candidates teams were loyal to the candidate and not the party.
I have been a liberal Democrat for over 40 years. Still, I can't fathom how anyone could actually think that Bernie Sanders has a chance of being elected. Sanders has acknowledged that in 1980, he stood as a presidential elector for the Socialist Worker's Party, which was concededly trotskyite/communist. The Democrats, including Hillary, have never attacked Sanders with his far-left past, for fear of offending his followers. But you may rest assured that Trump will have no such compunction.
Just as "Medicare For All" initially polled well, but folded upon close inspection, Sanders will not survive a real challenge from the right. Once his past positions -- e.g., abolishing the military and the CIA -- get a full airing, his numbers will crash. That's why Trump and the Republicans dream of running against Sanders. It will make McGovern's 49-to-1 loss look like a close contest.
Unfortunately, Sanders and his followers are so wed to their pure left-wing stances that they can't stomach the notion of compromise. They simply ignore that we have a "winner take all" system that favors the Republicans. The only reason we won the House in 2018 was by running moderates that captured swing districts -- it wasn't from running candidates like AOC.
And please, let's drop the pipe dream that we can win by simply "getting out the base." This is just an excuse for refusing to compromise, but it doesn't win elections, as electrifying our base also electrifies the right-wing base.
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@katika17 Here's some reality for you to 'fathom' katika. Corporate democratic centrists haven't won a presidential election in almost 20yrs (regardless of gender). The last election saw 5million registered democrats stay at home when compared to 2008 (more if you account for population growth). Obama was elected by selling himself as a progressive before reality revealed otherwise, upon which his popularity plummeted as people quickly realized he was just another corporate sell-out catering to Wall St. The democrats have lost over 1,000 seats across the country in the past 10yrs at the state level (governorships, state houses, mayors etc.). The material reality for the majority of Americans has continued to worsen for decades leading to a hatred in BOTH parties for establishment status quo upholding candidates. The most likely 'blue no matter who' voters are centrists. The voters that see Sanders as the last off ramp before the apocalypse have already gone through one round in 2016 of being shamed into voting the 'lesser of 2 evils' while having to watch the transparent 'sexism' smears (women of color are the majority of his base) and smugness of bourgeois out of touch NYT readers and therefore the most likely to take their ball and go home if Sanders loses the nomination. Even if some do end up voting they will not donate, volunteer, or otherwise lift a finger for Biden. Here's the reality, centrists like you have nothing to offer. You need us more than we need you.
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I don’t like Sanders at all (nor Warren), but I think Clinton has overstepped her boundaries by being such an outspoken critic. I know she has plenty of reasons not to like him, largely due to the fact that he kept in the primary race way too long and siphoned off support and funding that impeded her efforts.
But, her time in the sun is over, and she should let the current roster of candidates have their slugfest without her.
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The 2016 presidential election and the months leading up to its conclusion were formative on me as a budding adult and member of American politics. Being the first cycle that I kept up with, I had little to no preconceived notion of electioneering and what a successful campaign truly looked like, but even then, I viewed the smear tactics exercised by all candidates as an ineffectual method of gaining minimal margins of advantage over their opposing candidates.
Seeing these tactics (and other shadier ones) successfully get a personality, rather than a politician, elected was bitter and disheartening. This sensation was exacerbated by the bitter sentiments that lingered across the Democratic party that are addressed in this article. The belief that Bernie's endorsement came to little too late for Hillary to successfully compete with the united Republican part divided Democrats, and to see that this is still happening so close to the peak of the 2020 presidential cycle is alarming to see not only as a young liberal in today's political climate but, and more essentially, as a politically active and aware adult, ideology aside.
The trend of successful political campaigns basing their foundations on attitude and counter-slandering first and ideologies second makes it difficult to be optimistic that politics will no longer tiptoe the line between ridiculous, almost satire like, antics and actual goal driven politics that encourage the participation of the population.
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Personally I'm glad Hillary attacked Bernie. It's too scary having Hillary in the closet, you never know when she'll break out and orchestrate another coup somewhere: Guatemala, Libya, Ukraine, where will she think of next. If you're seriously looking for someone to drop a tactical nuclear weapon on Iran or North Korea, Hillary is about 3 times more likely than Trump to do it.
Next I'd like to see her take some responsibility for 1) losing to Trump—and don't blame the Russians, 2) running in the first place when she was clearly the most unpopular Democratic contender. 3) Making Elizabeth Warren stand down when Warren was clearly a stronger candidate than Clinton, 4) desperately glomming onto Bernie's positions when he had outflanked her and then blaming him for campaigning for her.
I will also note that many Bernie supporters were really upset that he did campaign for her. Previous to Hillary I had voted for every Democratic candidate for President since 1972, including many—let's say most—who I knew were fabricating their progressive credentials and would tow the establishment line if elected. "All we're doing is defending," I told myself, but I drew the line with Hillary. The Clinton's had/have done enough damage already but Hillary apparently can't get enough of all those wonderful things she wants to do to us . .
Let's hope Bernie sweeps the early primaries and caucuses and Hillary jumps in to save the Old regime. It never gets old voting against Hillary Clinton.
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@International Herb
Wow, my political twin.
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So over it. All politicians these days. I wish we could just vote on issues as a nation sometimes and not individuals.
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Always a good idea to be able to recognize - internally, without input - when it's time to move on.
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Bernie was the lawful nominee of the Democratic Party in 2016.
Unfair and biassed, process of the Democratic Party leadership - were super delegates where guarantied to support Hillary’s nominee prior to the primaries were just one of the effort to push out of the race the candidate of the people. I have voted for her as an effort against a Trump presidency yet her ego based desire to rise to power is no different then the motivation behind the trump presidency.
“Hillary please let go - we are pretty divided as a nation already we don’t need your contribution to a greater division especially in the Democratic Party”.
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The Clintons have been pulling the strings of the Democratic Party for fun and profit for decades. Along the way, they have developed a network of camp followers who populate the airwaves as "consultants" and "strategists" and most media never point out their close relationship with the Clintons and the Obama Administration- which became an extension of ClintonWorld.
Bernie Sanders does not hire these people which means should he get the nomination, they will have to find other work. This is why he is regularly savaged in our commercial media. If you own a bar and a teetotaler is coming to town you are not happy at the prospects.
Then factor in that Ms. Clinton still has not gotten over losing the 2016 election. Yes, she lost- we have never used a popular vote to elect a President and she knew that. She comes across as a bitter, defeated politician who knows she will never be President.
At this point, the Obamas and Clintons and hangers-on would rather lose the 2020 election than lose control of the party. May I remind all that redistricting will be done by the down-ballot candidates that will be ditting in the Legislature in most states.
Funny that the Clinton/Obama people are the most ardent "Blue no matter who" people, but chafe at the prospect of Sanders as nominee.
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Five questions for people who are bitter about Hillary and Bernie (either way, it doesn't matter):
Isn't it time to admit that Bernie's primary voters in 2016 supported Hillary to the tune of 88%, and that this is a normal percentage for a primary loser?
Isn't it time to spend more time attacking Comey for undermining Hillary's campaign a week before the election, than Bernie for supporting her candidacy (some say without enthusiasm; I don't know how to judge that) after she won the nomination?
Isn't it time to admit that not campaigning in major states that she took for granted yet lost was a bigger mistake than either of the others?
Isn't it time to think about Hillary's nearly 3,000,000 vote popular margin and what that means for 2020?
There are so many reasons Hillary lost the presidency, the biggest being the Electoral College. Why try to undermine any candidate who may be running against Trump?
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@Thomas Zaslavsky Here are some other things to consider as well. Clinton outspent Trump 2 to 1. She was endorsed by every major newspaper and publication in the country including many conservative ones, had the backing of most major TV news networks as well as all of Hollywood, had name brand recognition, was a career politician and STILL lost to Trump.
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The fix is in, Biden will be the nominee. The Democrats being played by their party again is priceless.
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As a Republican who wants to see a more reasonable president, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the Democrats typical liberal behavior of being unable to get out of their own way.
They remind me of all the peace activists that I know who can’t seem to get along with other people.
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@Longtime Japan Did it ever occur to you that both parties have no real principles, are subservient to corporate interests and protecting that business model is the only thing these elections are about?
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Bernie Sanders is not going to be President. Elizabeth Warren might be President. But not Bernie. He is not even a Democrat, and doesn't even try to pretend that he is. The DNC should tell him to go run as an independent. Toss him out of the Democratic primaries.
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@Gordon Wiggerhaus Sanders and Biden are in the lead with Warren a distant 3rd. Her smear and Clinton-esque political stunt at the last debate has ensured she will not be the nominee with many of her small donors actually demanding refunds (and receiving them).
A corporate centrist democrat hasn't won in a general for almost 20yrs (regardless of gender). Obama ran as a progressive then quickly lost approval when the reality of his subservience to Wall St. emerged. Should Biden be the nominee it is more than likely Trump will win another 4yrs.
Sanders is widely popular across party lines, wins in polling data matching him against Trump (routinely, especially in swing states), has out raised every other campaign, has the largest army of grass roots volunteers ready to help him win a general election, and has inspired some of the most popular members of congress to run for their office (AOC). Given the ownership of the democratic party to corporate interests and the extreme distaste of the voting public for establishment status quo candidates (on both sides), Sanders being seen as an outsider is actually a benefit in general election. Centrists need Sanders to win but Sander's voters don't need centrist candidates - they have nothing to offer.
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People like Bernie because he is honest and consistent. They dislike Hillary because she isn't. Bernie might be wrong, but he is honest. Hillary might be right, but no one trusts her.
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@Mndy What's the point of supporting someone making wrong decisions just because they are trustworthy? Of course, trust is a major issue with politicians everywhere but the POTUS needs to make good decisions. Unlike currently.
'“I just don’t think it’s appropriate for Democrats to be criticizing other Democrats, especially with personal attacks like that,” said Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democratic Party,"'
Sanders is not a Democrat.
BTW, I will be voting for the best Democratic Candidate in the upcoming Primary; I suggest my fellow Democrats do the same.
...and Clinton is spot on re: Sanders--especially Bernies' sycophants. There's too much trumpian tactics in their campaign shenanigans.
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@N Stewart You must not know what 'democrat' means then. The corporate centrists that have consumed the democratic party (starting with the Clintons) are not democrats. They did not pass medicare or medicaid, the 40hr work week, overtime, social security and the rest of the things that give your life just a little bit of decency.
Corporate Democratic Centrists have not won a general election in almost 20yrs (regardless of gender). Obama ran as a progressive and won before losing appeal when his subservience to Wall St. was revealed. Sanders is your only hope of defeating Trump. His popularity crosses party lines - namely because of his outsider status. His campaign has raised more money than any other. His grass roots supporters are the most committed and numerous to help him in the general and he is responsible for inspiring some of the most popular women in congress to run for their office. Democrats need Sanders to win. Sanders supporters don't need another corporate democrat.
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I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, and I think she would have made a good President. I also think she lost the election because she discounted the energy Bernie’s campaign brought to issues critical to everyday people and families. She lost because she had long since lost touch with the rest of us.
Bernie’s strength is his grasp of how quickly the American dream is slipping out of reach for too many. He understands that we need relief from the cost of healthcare, student loan debt, stagnating wages, and the bewilderingly high price of childcare and housing. That regardless of where we start, we all want the same basic things: happiness, security, a future for our children and grandchildren.
I live in the same neighborhood as Bernie. I don’t know him personally, so I don’t know whether he’s “likable” or not. I can say that ours is a down-to-earth neighborhood. Many teachers live here. So do electricians, contractors, small-business owners, university employees. Doctors, nurses, social workers, and lawyers. At least one retired librarian. The cars in most driveways (Bernie’s included) aren’t new or fancy. Some houses are big, but most are small to midsize.
Part of Bernie’s appeal is his ability to speak convincingly to the concerns of everyday people. Perhaps he does this well because, despite appearing on Colbert more than the rest of us, he actually lives by fairly everyday standards. Not many candidates for President can say the same.
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She lost because Sanders, like Nader in 2000, put ego over country.
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@Gretchen Thank you for your response and for throwing some light on Bernie, your neighbor. I feel compelled, more than ever, to support this down-to-earth man rather than those who stand for the corporate elite.
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@John Tollefson Clinton outspent Trump 2 to 1, she had the endorsement of every major paper and publication in the country (including conservative ones), nearly every corporate news station endorsed her along with all of Hollywood, she had name brand recognition, was a career politician and STILL lost to Trump. Clinton lost on her own - stop scapegoating others for her failure.
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Hillary Clinton had her day and opportunity in politics, but at this point is irrelevant. While I supported Bernie in 2016, once Hillary was the nominee, I did all that I could to help her get elected because that is what Democrats do. Her divisive ploy at this point in the campaign process is inexcusable. She, of all people, knows the timing of her documentary and interviews are destructive and play right into Trump's hand. The media should not give her a platform to disrupt the Democratic party process.
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The more I consider this extraordinary diatribe, I think Hillary, unwittingly, has guaranteed that Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Party nominee.
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Thanks Hillary for the first Trump term and thanks again in advance for the second Trump term. Way to go! I guess you’re liking the one percent benefits a Trump presidency provides you.
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So if Mr. Sanders wins the Democratic nomination in an election against Donald Trump, Ms. Clinton is not sure if she would support him? Ms. Clinton seems to be saying that Trump and Sanders are equivalent. What she has instead shown is that she is not very different from Donald Trump.
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Articles like this one focus on one objective for the Democratic party which is to defeat Trump, but the party has not had a decisive and coherent voice since Harry Truman, John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson -- that is a failure of leadership and vision,
plus the unwillingness to recognize that revered figures like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama failed in being real progressive forces. I would like to see all the tensions in the Democratic "tent" fought out in public -- and the issue is more than just Trump, it is that the "middle class" is in decline and the Republican party and conservatives in general are totally corrupt. That is the way to push a progressive vision. As a country, we lost a lot with the death of RFK. It gives one pause about the importance of individuals in the survival of political ideas.
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@billp59 If the Kennedy brothers had not been killed, the left in the Democratic Party would be a lot smaller. And the Democrats would appeal a lot more to the middle class, and would do a lot better in elections. And Bernie Sanders would not be running for President. He would have very little appeal. What I am saying is that the Kennedys were not progressives. They were pretty conservative compared to today's liberals and progressives. But had broad appeal to many sectors of the population. Their deaths are definitely the worst thing that has happened to this country in the last 60 years.
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Bernie speaks loudly for the voiceless. He literally teared up when a young disabled woman said at a 2016 town hall that she donated $30 to his campaign from her disability check. That resonates with voters whether in town halls or large crowds as Bernie tells the stories of the disenfranchised RFK once championed.
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I still drink coffee from my "Feel the Bern" mug I purchased in 2015. As a monthly donor, I have amassed a large 2020 campaign sticker collection, which I display on my refrigerator amongst the grocery list pad and the Mother's Day and Happy Birthday drawings by my daughter. In 2016, I drove three hours to attend his rally in Austin and I will do so again this year.
I support Senator Bernie Sanders. I support him because he speaks to me as a mother, a Latina, a women whose integrity is not compromisable for either money or fame. I support him because decade after decade he has never changed his values or stopped standing for the issues he believes in. I support him because he is authentic and his energy excites me.
You can disparage me and say that, I "only want free things," or as a supporter I'm "cult like" or, that I'm a "Bernie Bro." Those labels do not bother me because I have thick skin; more importantly, because they're not true. I want him to win the nomination, but if he doesn't, I will vote for whomever wins the nomination.
Hillary Clinton just needs to go away.
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"Unlike nearly all of the other two dozen Democratic candidates this primary cycle, Mr. Sanders did not call Mrs. Clinton before he entered the race."
What? Was there a requirement passed down from the Democratic party hierarchy that they genuflect and kiss her ring before running?
Bernie Sanders, nor anyone who wants to run for any elected office in these United States needs her blessing.
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Bernie Sanders can easily beat Trump, so why is Joe Biden being forced down our throats? Joe is more like a moderate Republican than a traditional democrat. Joe advocated vigorously for invading Iraq, loved the idea of cutting SS, Medicare, and Medicaid to balance the budget, and he is responsible for our inability to discharge student loans in a bankruptcy! This is the first time in decades that we have a chance to elect a real FDR democrat like Bernie. Don’t blow this once in a lifetime opportunity for real change!
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Truly, I thought Donald Trump was the only elected official who put his own personal ambitions over the wellbeing and welfare of our Democratic Republic, the United States of America, and it's people.
Hillary Clinton, in her own words, spoken to the world, has indicated and confirmed to the American people, that what we suspected all along is the absolute truth, which is that she has not one whit of concern or regard for the United States of America and it's people, and in her all-consuming rage she will do whatever it takes to undo whatever opportunity the Democratic Party may have to oust Trump, his Republican partners, and their un-American supporters.
A sad day indeed.
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Says the least popular politician on earth.
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Until the nominee is chosen any candidate is fair game to be attacked by the other candidates. We all know the number 1 goal is to get Trump out of office but the voters in the primaries deserve to know not only where each candidate stands but how they will engage with those who hold different views and support different positions. This cannot be present 6 candidates who all look like they hold the exact same beliefs when we know they don't and then ask voters to pick one. Sanders will not run the country the same way that Warren will who will not run the country the same as Biden who will ... etc.
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@DC
"any candidate is fair game to be attacked by the other candidates"
Hillary is not a candidate.
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@MidtownATL - Hillary does not even hold an office. She is a private citizen.
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I’m not a big Bernie fan, I voted for Hillary but this kind of personal attack was uncalled for—differences in policy can be achieved without such an attack.
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Mrs. Clinton's impressions of "everyone" and "no one" are sadly misguided.
"Mrs. Clinton tried to clarify her remarks on Tuesday evening. 'I thought everyone wanted my authentic, unvarnished views!'”
No one wants your views, Mrs. Clinton, varnished or unvarnished.
Whether "no one" likes Mr. Sanders will be publicly documented information shortly, when caucusing starts in Iowa.
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I guess Senator Warren's "you said something offensive to me in 2018 and it bothered me so much I shared it in 2020" predictably fell flat. Such behavior is both unethical and laughably bad strategy, but I guess the Editorial Board did not factor that in when they endored Senator Warren. Maybe the temptation to write endless columns about wildly deluded plans was too great.
Hillary Clinton complaining that no one likes Bernie Sanders is both ironic and maximally petty, but this is what we should expect from the Clintons by now. If no one likes him, they will not vote for him. It is not as if there are many surprises about him. His chances of winning are remote, but they are increased by these feeble attacks.
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Why this? Why now? More distraction and misdirection. Ignore it. Focus on the goal: getting Trump away from the nuclear button by electing a Democrat in 2020.
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I don't particularly like Sanders or any of the people who do, for that matter, but I'd vote for him if given the chance--if he comes up against Trump. See, I'm grown up enough to know that my feelings aren't something everyone else should hold up over all other considerations.
So Sanders supporters: try to get him win the primary. If he does it, he has my vote. If not, whatever democrat gets it has my vote (even if it's Hillary) because defeating Trump is the single most important task facing planet Earth at the moment.
If we don't defeat Trump, one day we will all have to answer for how we allowed civilization as we know it dissolve.
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My sentiments exactly, thank you and well said. I voted for Hillary in 2016, not because I supported her but because I had to cast a meaningful vote against Trump. It was one of the most painful votes I have cast. Not the worst (as I know now—I’ve been voting for a very long time), but I did it. I don’t agree with her on this (or on many things), but I will, for the same reason I forced myself to vote for her in 2016, vote for the Democratic nominee this year. No matter who it is. I’m a little surprised (or maybe not) that she hasn’t come to understand just why the race was so close in 2016. The “wrong lizard” and all that...
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i agree with her. She didn't have to say it out loud.
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Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. He is an independent. So why is he able to run as a candidate in the Democratic party? I am getting increasingly worried that Sanders is going to ultimately be destructive to imperative Democratic strength to defeat Trump. Trump will weaponize every issue and lie, cheat and steal. He will paint Bernie as a socialist coming to take your hard earned dollars and worse. Sanders deserves great credit for bringing universal health care into the public debate front and center. But, beyond that I don't see a candidate who appears particularly capable of leading or building compromise to actually get big things done. Sanders does inspire fierce devotion but that devotion appears to be more about him than about his engagement with issues domestic and international (other than health care and bad billionaires). He does not seem 'Presidential'. That said, if he is the candidate, I'm voting for him.
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A wonderful question to be answered by members of the political party system and framers of our overrall electoral process and not any "campaign." BTW who are the framers of our overall political process?
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So the Democrats are starting to behave like little Trumps. If they continue to behave like this, he will get his second term.
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Does HC get a piece of the box office?
Nothing to see here except self promotion no matter the costs to others.
Quite honestly I've grown tired of both Her and Bernie.
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I'm certain trump prefers you focus on this today instead of the suppression of Justice in the Senate.
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In '16 when she needed to be decisive, she couldn't hack it. So she went on a listening tour. Can you believe it? Voters knew her better than she knew herself. Vacuous. Even now when she appears to be finally admitting to anger and resentment toward Bernie, she is still indecisive - she MAY not endorse Bernie if he is the nominee. Nothing has changed except her age.
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Hillary's comments many actually help Bernie. Hillary and the NY Times Editorial Board know that if Bernie wins Iowa that momentum may ultimately help him win the nomination. They are terrified of that, especially given his fundraising efforts post heart attack and his trending upwards in the polls. Hillary's attack mostly show how bitter she is. Trump can now use Hillary's comments against Bernie in the presidential election. This type of attack by Hillary is just unconscionable. The fact that Bernie is not being treated fairly may cause a statistically significant number of people to support Bernie. Democratic voters care about treating people fairly.
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@Devo If Bernie gets the nom, Trump will win reelection.
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@liza Every legitimate poll says the opposite.
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I am horrified at Hillary Clinton's comments. It doesn't matter one bit if she is right or wrong. She plays directly into Donald Trump's hands by slinging mud. After everything that was said about her, how can she even think of saying something like this even if she believes it? If she wants to comment on Bernie Sanders positions on the merits of an issue - fine, although frankly I wish she would say nothing at all if it's not positive. To slew personality-based insults only hurts the Democrats and our chances of saving the country as a whole. It is petty and small-minded.
I worked harder for Mrs. Clinton doorknocking in New Hampshire than anyone else (including 2 cycles for Obama who I love) and I have respect for her career and contributions to the country. If she truly believes in the things she says she stands for, and hopes that Trump is kicked out of office by the voters, she should stay QUIET on these types of criticisms. Yes, there were forces against her, but she should also accept that she made mistakes on the campaign trail and should stop rehashing it. Time to move on and keep our eyes on one prize, and one prize only - getting rid of Trump. Fighting with Bernie and his supporters can't be more counter-productive to that goal. I hope someone close to her tells her how destructive this kind of dialogue is (I see that you can't email her or I would write to her myself.) PLEASE go home Mrs. Clinton - you had your shot.
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Bottom line, Sanders was part of the “perfect storm” that elected Trump. He didn’t pull his weight in the turnout that failed Dems, he pouted. Let’s not give him the chance to elect Trump a second time.
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The fact is many people, like my brother and mother, couldn’t vote for Hillary after voting for Sanders. They didn’t vote for Trump either. But they, like a lot of people in the northeast, saw Sanders as very principled and Hillary as someone out for herself—for ‘her’ which was her campaign slogan, instead of ‘you’, which it should have been. I grudgingly voted for Hillary and now regret doing so. I should have voted with some one who shows passion for helping we the people, instead of her the politician or him the Trump narcissist.
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@JP - Hillary elected Trump. Folks didn't vote for Trump, they voted against Hillary.
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@Not Pierre
"The fact is many people, like my brother and mother, couldn’t vote for Hillary after voting for Sanders. They didn’t vote for Trump either. "
Sorry. Mathematically, a vote for somebody else (not Clinton but not Trump) was one vote for Trump. And a direct vote for Trump was, so to speak, two full votes for him. Clinton spent most of her life working on policies that helped poor, working class and middle class Americans, especially women and children. Your negative comment is not in accord with the facts.
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Hillary Clinton is one of the worst things that has happened to the Democratic Party, and that is saying a lot. Her insistence on running, despite being a genuinely unlikeable, highly problematic candidate, is what got us Trump. How dare she rise up again like a character in a Wes Craven movie to once against disrupt American politics.
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Bill Clinton presided over the most successful economy the modern US had ever seen, with robust gdp growth, a soaring stock market, the seeds of the technological change we see the fruits of in the internet and cellular telephony of today, the human genome project, whose benefits are clear in the dazzling biotech medications now treating rare and once incurable diseases - and he did it all while keeping taxes low AND balancing the budget, while also making great progress in civil rights. The 1990’s were great years! What exactly is wrong with anyone wanting that again, as opposed to neo-socialism or fascism? Pluralist capitalism was in full glory during the Clinton and Blair years, and the world was a much better place for it, and everyone knows it.
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@Arblot
Nothing is wrong with any of that. But we aren't talking about Bill, we are talking about Hillary, who had absolutely zero to do with bringing about any of her husband's successful policies.
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@Arblot Imagine so completely ignoring his statement that "the era of big government is over" - it resulted in the neoliberalism that brought us the greatest economic inequality of all time. Maybe things are just fine for you, but wages have stagnated. GDP is no indicator of wellbeing. Bill Clinton repealed Glass-Steagal, which led to the recession. Clinton contributed to conservative fearmongering about black "superpredators" and imprisoned millions of blacks, destroying communities in the process. Clinton is a borderline criminal for his actions in this area specifically. Say what you want about the necessity of the policy in the name of "political expediency" but I can think of a politician who strongly opposed all of these policy disasters.
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Bernie Sanders is the worst thing that has ever happened to the Democratic Party in its entire history—and without the guy ever being a Democrat. His insistence on entering and stubbornly remaining in the 2016 race despite the fact that there were no major policy differences between him and Hillary was a grotesque display of narcissism. Hillary’s chances—and the chances of the Democrats—would have been considerably increased had it not been for Bernie’s cult following which relentlessly spewed hatred of Hillary in social media, continuing their attacks after the battle was between Trump and Hillary. By his actions, Bernie created a deep divide in the party that continues to this day. Calling him unlikeable and a demagogue is mild criticism compared to what he deserves for the damage he did and continues to do.
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You forget that Bernie got more votes than Hillary.
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@Margaret Jay - Here is a novel thought. What if Hillary had asked Bernie to be her running mate instead of her supporters (like Sarah Silverman) telling the Sanders' supporters to "quit being ridiculous"?
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So, is this a litmus test for next November? Will the democratic party self implode once again? If these useless, biting comments by HRC on Sanders has resulted in this uproar, can you imagine how fractured we will be come voting day 2020. You never see Republican politicians behave this way. They don't kill one another off like this, even if they hate eachother and carry old wounds. They play the game better. There may be many more democrats, but it will not matter, history will repeat itself and Trump will be elected. Beware.
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People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Miss Congeniality says no one likes Bernie. I guess she should know.
But to any readers who think Hillary is a credible critic, read the comments of another woman, Maureen Dowd, from last Sunday's paper.
"Hillary Clinton did not lose because she was a woman. She faced sexism, of course, just as Barack Obama faced racism. She lost because she ran an entitled, joyless, nose-in-the air campaign and because she didn’t emulate her husband’s ethos of campaign ’til the last dog dies and the last bowling alley closes, and always make it about the voters."
No, Hillary didn't make it about the voters. It was all about Hillary, and apparently it still is.
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She told it like it is. Many don’t like him and we won’t support or vote for him if he’s the nominee. ABB - Anyone but Bernie.
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Hillary Clinton is manifestly still very bitter about Bernie Sanders, and in expressing herself now she is obviously trying to steer the course of the Democratic nomination. So why does this article attempt to soften this bitterness.
1) Sanders did not engage in withering opposition to Clinton in 2016. He engaged in a campaign of issues, and dismissed the email issue early in the campaign
2) Calling him a career politician, and someone that no one wants to work with is a baseless claim that should have been mentioned.
3) Sanders is not engaged in a standoff with Warren. The issue has been dropped by Warren. They still are very close on political issues. The standoff is the creation of the media, which thrives on manufacturing turbulence. Just like the unqualified ruckus in 2016, which was seeded by the Clinton campaign and enthusiastically played by the press.
4) Who are these online Bernie Bros? What evidence is that there is a toxic culture surrounding his campaign, and not the campaigns of others.
5) to place her bitteness in the context of the reality of 2016, it should have been mentioned that Sanders vigorously campaigned for her, more than she did for Obama, and that the myth pumped up his voters so much to turn them against Clinton in 2016 ignores the fact that more Hillary voters voted for McCain than Sanders voters for Trump
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Hillary is a brilliant, talented woman and what she says is her opinion. Big deal.
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Clearly from these comments the wounds of 2016 remain raw- so here's a thought. Let's NOT nominate the epitome of that divisive rift in our party; the candidate whose army of online trolls still spew out toxic hatred toward anyone daring to question 'Saint Bernie.' There ARE other progressive choices here, Democrats. Elizabeth Warren has better plans and a better record of working with others. As a woman, she'd be a groundbreaking candidate. Another groundbreaker, Andrew Yang, is a former Sanders supporter with far fresher ideas and a youthful charismatic style. Why turn instead to the abrasive self-righteous 78 year-old Socialist who contributed so mightily to the divisions that sunk the Democrats in 2016? Let's all move on.
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Hillary Clinton will go down in history as the woman who failed to campaign fully and properly for president and therefore enabled the Trump dictatorship, which is poised to perhaps become permanently entrenched.
As a result of her political malpractice--which also included participating in a Democratic party leadership-led conspiracy to deny Bernie Sanders a level playing field on which to compete for the nomination in 2016--she should do America and the world a favor and banish herself from public life forever.
May we never hear Hlllary Clinton weigh in on any public matter, large or small, for the rest of her puffed up and self-important--and utterly checked out--existence.
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Hillary Clinton has been unfairly maligned since she was the First Lady of Arkansas. I have defended her to people since for decades. And she has done many commendable things. But it is unacceptable for her to try to ruin Bernie’s shot, especially with what’s on the line.
I’m not going to be defending her any longer.
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What I don’t like about Bernie Sanders is he is a multi millionaire who got his wealth from things like shady deals he and his wife made that bankrupt colleges (for example) and he tells all the rest of us we should be happy with bread lines.
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@Joan , look into the reporting from Vermont's independent weekly, Seven Days, about how just when the FBI was ready to investigate the bankrupt college that Bernie's wife once led, there was suddenly a burglary and break-in of the offices, and the computers and hard drives sought by the FBI were conveniently stolen, never to be recovered. Computers that it was speculated may have held the evidence about Bernie's wife perhaps knowingly and intentionally inflating assets and donations to enable the college's disastrous over-expansion. Assets and donations that did not exist. The burglary, what coincidental timing.
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@Joan no offense Joan , but this sounds like something someone on TV told you and you decided to believe...
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Why did so many voters stay home, or vote for a third party candidate in 2016? That is the question we should ask.
During the primary campaign, Bernie Sanders never missed an opportunity to exploit the rage of his supporters, to whip them into a frenzy of hatred and mistrust for Hillary Clinton.
He was unrelenting. For months, at every opportunity, he demonized Hillary and impugned her motives—with hearsay, distortion, innuendo, insinuation, sarcasm, contemptuous dismissal, guilt-by-association, conspiracy theories and outright lies.
The hate and mistrust he fostered carried over into the general election, and depressed turnout by his supporters—largely young, white voters.
Then, belatedly and half-heartedly, he "endorsed" her as the party's nominee. But it was too little, too late.
In my book, Bernie Sanders is directly responsible for the election of Donald Trump. I will never forgive him for that.
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@Ron Cohen
Oh, please, some of us astute voters mistrusted The Clintons (plural, as they would have been two-fer in 2016) long before Bernie burst into the scene. For
many valid reasons. (e.g. "We came, we saw, he died")
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@Ron Cohen
You give Sanders far too much credit. I didn't vote for Clinton in 2000, when she carpetbagged my then-state, and in fact i left the party at the time as well. I was never going to vote for her. Sanders would have gotten you a Democratic vote from me anyway. At the time, even Biden would have gotten that, grudgingly. Clinton demonized herself.
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The thing that wouldn't leave speaks. Hillary's input on Bernie and the primary is neither needed nor wanted. She is just proving again why she was a terrible candidate in 2016 with -40% favorability polling. She's again showing herself to be self centered, egotistical, and dislikable.If she had a modicum of decorum or basic loyalty to process and party, she would line up and support whoever the party nominates. Beating Trump is paramount and if she cant see that, she's further gone than I thought.
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“The thing”
Trump supporters are rightly derided in media when they use language meant to dehumanize people, and the same should hold true for Bernie supporters.
Decency, now.
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So disappointed that Hillary felt the need to come down on Bernie Sanders. I thought our goal was to defeat Trump and stand behind whoever gets the nomination. The only person these comments help is Trump. He probably is clapping his hands that Democrats are eating their own. I like Bernie. Hillary, if you feel bitter, do it on your own time or after the election, not now.
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"Withering opposition" from Bernie in 2016? Clinton and her media (which included the NYT) were vicious in their attacks on Sanders. I always expected some enterprising journalism student to do a content analysis of articles and headlines on Clinton and Sanders articles. I especially remember a NYT headline that said "Sanders determined to hurt Clinton."
And recall the collaboration between the Clinton campaign and CNN. No wonder Sanders is skeptical of the media. They were solidly behind Clinton. In a lifetime of following politics, I've never seen anything that outrageously biased. Sanders could have defeated Trump, according to solid electoral analyses. But he never got the chance b/c Clinton had the national media, the DNC, and the super pacs. The Times once apologized for its pro-Iraq war articles. Why not apologize for the strongly biased coverage of the Clinton-Sanders campaign that gave us Donald Trump?
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Let's go back to the 2016 primary races. Most people assumed that Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic nominee. And that Jeb Bush would be the Republican nominee
In other words, a race of the two political dynasties since from 1992 to 2008.
The American people have moved on, and rejected the Clintons and the Bushes. For better or worse. (Much worse, with Mr. Trump.)
Hillary Clinton just needs to go away. We need new blood in the Democratic Party.
Hillary, you're not helping.
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@MidtownATL
Actually, from1980 when George HW Bush was the brains running the show behind the Reagan Mask. . . .
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Two things:
1. Go away Hillary
2. Bernie, see number 1.
Turn the party over to winners.
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Aren’t Bill and Hillary really Republicans in today’s world - they aren’t going to like Bernie under any circumstances!
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Agreed. We essentially have three parties vying for the presidency. The New Republicans, as represented by the old guard Democratic Party; the New Deal centrists as represented by Warren and Sanders; and the lunatic fringe as represented by the current Republicans. Only in a country as conservative as ours would a national health care plan and higher taxes on the wealthy be seen as radical.
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#ILikeBernie is trending.
And yes, I like Bernie.
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All of them bear some responsibility for the in-fighting...Clinton, Sanders, whoever, which is irresponsible and unpatriotic when someone as unscrupulous as Trump is consolidating power. I'm sure partisans for one side for another will scream that their beloved candidate is innocent, but that's a lie.
And of course, none of these politicians will bear the brunt of the consequences when their petty in-fighting and big egos give us another term of Trump. Despite chants of "lock her up" or whatever, they always seem to do just fine with book deals, speech circuits, and TV appearances.
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Point of clarification. Why do some call Bernie a liberal?
Bernie is Not a liberal by his own self description. He is a socialist, actually a democratic socialist to use his words.
Truth be told Bernie is Not a Democrat. He and his fellow travelers on the socialist left are attempting a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party.
I fully expect that eventually this fringe group on the left will eventually leave the Dems and form a socialist party. At least this would be an honest move that most Democrats would favor.
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Bernie Sanders in 2016 should’ve strongly urged his high-profile followers to support Hillary Clinton as the legitimate democratic nominee. She was the electable one as shown by the number of persons who voted for her.
If Dems want to go socialist, Warren is the better one and it’s not because she is a woman. It’s her temperament, her age, her relative charisma and she is a doer, also a policy wonk who does her homework .
If Bernie loses the nomination again to either warren or Klocbucher (or anyone), he and his followers must mobilize their supporters And vote for the eventual Democratic Party candidate.
We can’t take another four years of Trump, the worst president ever.
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For Ms. Clinton to say that no one likes Bernie Sanders is very strange. His strong support by his people is historic. They all
love him.
If people had really liked Ms. Clinton in 2016 however, one
would have expected that she could have beaten a weak
enemy like Trump.
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Regardless of the merits of Mrs. Clinton's arguments here is my fear for the Democratic Party and their giving the election to Mr. Trump on a silver platter. Lets go back to ancient Rome as an analogy.
The GOP operates like a phalanx of Roman soldiers, under Caesar, maintaining formation and doing Caesar's bidding. A very effective fighting force in their day, that ruled the known world.
The Democrats are like the barbarians, undisciplined, running hither and yon, easily divided and easily defeated. Yes they eventually conquered Rome in the end, but only because Rome got weak and decadent, i.e. the Neros and Caligulas. Though the analogy is loose, I pray that I am wrong because we don't want another 4 years of Nero or Caligula...
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I deeply regret knowing that at this juncture in history there are Democrats so reckless that they will utter extremely disparaging remarks about other Democrats.
This certainly makes Hillary Clinton persona non grata in my book. There is nothing more important now than for Democrats to put aside their personal animosities and support other Democrats. I'm very sorry to learn that Hillary Clinton is not smart enough to do that.
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@polymath
"extremely disparaging remarks about other Democrats."
Sanders is not a Democrat.
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I voted for both Clintons. I thought Mrs.Clinton was probably one of the most qualified candidates for president we've had in my lifetime. I resent the Sanders voters who stayed home or voted third party. All that being said, these remarks by her are petty, something that trump would utter.
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Wow. Badly done. Obviously people like Sanders-- as well as Clinton. That she would hesitate to endorse him when our entire republic is at risk is disheartening, divisive and dangerous.
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I never want to hear another word from Hillary or Bill Clinton. Ever. Again. I donated to this woman and knocked on doors for her when she was the nominee.
I’m so angry at the pettiness and divisiveness of these remarks.
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Let’s consider Hillary’s real fear here: Sanders wins the nomination, defeats Trump, and thus solidifies the argument that Hillary lost a historically winnable presidential race on her own merits. If Sanders can defeat Trump, particularly with a third-way establishment allied against him, Hillary will be out of excuses for the 2016 debacle.
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Hillary Clinton has been pretty quiet, but in speaking out and making these statements about Bernie, she is 100% correct and doing the Democrats a service. Bernie is the Trump of the left and would be a disaster as a President. Thank you Hillary.
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That is nice that Mrs. Clinton said: "Nobody likes him". Well on the other hand that is why she lost the election to a nobody. It was an anti-Clinton vote and she never understood that. Any candidate who runs against Trump is going to win. The American people will vote him out of office on a 57 to 43 split and pick up enough state electoral votes to defeat him.
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I suppose for those who still care intensely about Mrs. Clinton, getting some attention focused on her was a masterstroke. For others, it is a sad reminder of some of her less attractive traits.
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I do not agree anymore, that Warren would accomplish the same things that Sanders would. Warren is too manipulable. Her eye is on the prize. In contrast Sanders' eye is on serious problems to solve.
Elizabeth Warren does not have the scope of this country, and although I was considering voting for her, I worry that she cannot win against Trump; in the rust belt and much of the country. In fact I don't think she stacks up very well in that regard at all.
Sanders' unwillingness to compromise does not mean he doesn't know the lay of the land politically. We are after all in an "absolute" situation with the global climate. Poverty, refugees, the environment, global food insecurity, a tanking society; militarism, poisons, prisons, corruption, water and air, these problems require a serious attitude. The status quo appears to be blind and would move quickly against Senator Warren's best plans, if they haven't already.
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Hillary inartfully said something that was true. Bernie is not beloved by other Democrats. This is why his supporters thought the 2016 election was “rigged” for Hillary. Not really — it’s just that she had built up a lot of good will in the party over the years and her many friends in the party were the super delegates and other Dems in a position to give her their endorsement. And Bernie was not in a place like that. He didn’t have a ton of friends to draw on. When Hillary said “no one” likes him, she just meant the other elected Dems.
Whether or not this matters to the average voter probably depends on who they are. I personally think it’s important to help get more accomplished but I also relate to the people who think progress is too slow if we try to bring too many people along. Hillary supporters would probably argue that at least you get something done even if it it’s just partway time what you were hoping, whereas Bernie supporters would say that what we need is to shake up the status quo.
I don’t think this comment is worth the uproar it caused. It’s just a blunt statement of the facts.
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@L I have been a strait ticket Democratic my entire life and i love Bernie.
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Why would anyone expect the Dems to embrace Sanders after the way he has treated our party?
What goes around comes around, Bernie Bros.
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The passionate Sanders supporters - who are the first to attack "the corporate wing" of the Democrat party, which I guess would have to include a moderate (and non-corporate) Democrat like me - leave me cold.
Clinton's lack of self-control in weighing in on his candidacy, given the immense baggage that drives her perspective, reaffirms that someone close to her needs to urge her to zip it and move on with her life.
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In the primary, vote your conscience. On November 3, 2020, vote blue, no matter who.
It is a false choice between the so-called centrists and the so-called progressives. We are all on the same same side. The right side of history, against Mr. Trump.
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HRC should write a coda not to be released in her lifetime. Not as fun or lucrative as starring in your own documentary, but it would be the responsible way to leave her recollections for history. And I write this as a Democrat who voted for her twice.
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Has Hilary Clinton ever acknowledged any of her mistakes as a candidate (or in any of her public roles)?
One thing I like about Bernie Sanders is he does exactly that. He demonstrates growth and humor and insight.
If Bernie wins the Democratic Primary in Rhode Island this year, as he did in 2016, it will be no surprise. We like Bernie.
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This is a woman who close to 50% of the voters found to be more odious than Donald Trump; a candidate that Sanders probably would have beaten.
The time for her to exit the stage is long over due. She is more responsible for Trump's presidency than any human on Earth and should be ashamed to speak ill of any politician.
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"Nobody Likes Him?" Seriously, what is this? Real Housewives Of Washington D.C.? Or are we all back in 8th grade?
The Democratic in-fighting is already bad enough, but things are getting so pointlessly catty and childish we are descending to "Nobody likes him?"
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How is this helpful?
You know what would have been helpful, Hillary...? Going to Wisconsin. That would have been helpful.
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WILL this woman never go away?? It's over, Hillary; it's been over for you for three years. Get with the program: we need to defeat Trump and we don't care what you think, period. And I am not a Bernie Bro.
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Although some of Mrs. Clinton’s comments concerning Mr. Sanders may be true, they are not in any manner helpful to the selection process of a presidential candidate from the Democratic Party.
In my opinion, the Clinton’s could be most helpful to the party and the American public by going away.
Far, far, away.
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I'm a longtime Democrat who sent both Sanders and Clinton 25 dollars in 2016; I would have been OK with either one. Her comments regarding Sanders aren't shocking or even upsetting to me. I find them interesting, and I find it interesting to hear Clinton speak less cautiously than when she was running for president. That's it. I no longer support Sanders in the primary, but I would vote for him if he's the nominee. All this talk of a split is a distraction from the kangaroo court taking place in the Senate.
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What is the point of Ms Clinton's comments? What does she hope to gain from this? It's really hard to understand.
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She is still trying to defend the establishment mindset.
She doesn’t get it.
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Sadly, it’s easy to understand.
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Read the article. It sheds light on her thinking.
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Circular firing line, same old thing. While DT sits back and watches the show, he won't debate anybody and probably coasts to a second term. Bloomberg might pose a problem for him, no one else. MB has a great back-story, a revered business and (if you can believe the commercials) seems interested in listening to people as opposed to pushing a "plan" to cure every ill.
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Hillary Clinton gave most of her adult life to the Democratic Party and to progressive ideas. Bernie Sanders is still not a member of the party. I think he has no business running for president and I think he is the most destructive thing that is happened for the Democratic Party. Hillary Clinton? I’m still with her.
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@Learned Hand what is destructive is blind devotion to a political party. As a proud independent voter, as are one-third of all voters, it is not the least bit important to me that he is not a card-carrying Democrat.
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@Learned Hand
Hillary Clinton is the most destructive thing that has happened to the Democratic Party. She lost to the absolutely worst candidate in American history, and installed Donald Trump in the oval office. He was imminently defeatable. This is all on her.
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Amusing to watch progressives lead with their emotions. Biden is looking better by the minute. Make government boring again. Please.
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The fact that Hillary made enough mistakes in her campaign or wasn’t liked by enough people that she lost to trump should make all of us willing to ignore anything she says.
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People cannot be so small as to allow a feud between 2 people from 2016 to divide them from saving America in 2020. Absolutely nothing could justify that.
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@Joe Runciter Hear! Hear! Many Thanks!
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Wow, the people who have been merrily smearing Sander’s primary opponents with half truths and complete lies are in high dudgeon because Hillary Clinton says no one who actually had to work with Sanders really likes him. Well, boo hoo, Sanders spent 16 years in the House and even longer in the Senate yet he had a tough time getting even a handful endorsements in 2016. Hardly sounds like he endeared himself to his co-workers!
Sanders supporters have spent the last 4 years trashing Clinton and every other Democrat who had the nerve to criticize their cultish behavior. Ironically, often while they proudly boast that they refused to vote for Clinton because she didn’t meet their demand that she defer to Sanders when she had more delegates than he did! Now, after they threw away their votes on Jill Stein, were so grief stricken that they couldn’t drag themselves to the polls to defeat the worst candidate in history, or actually turned coat and voted for Trump, they can’t believe Clinton won’t swear to support Sanders if he’s the candidate.
Bernie Bros who can’t be bothered to hide their contempt for women, want their chief victim to support their cult leader. Those who repeatedly spit on the Democratic party are now demanding Democratic Party unity for Bernie (who can’t be bothered to register as a Democrat!).
Well, you get what you give! So no sympathy here! You’re the ones acting like a bunch of contemptuous bullies.
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This reminds me of the school yard bully, who no one likes, picking on his or her prey by telling them that no one likes them.
How lame and unproductive and is probably more reflective of what she thinks about herself. She needs to grow up.
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Perhaps a salient and topical question would be to get her “unvarnished opinion” on the Clinton impeachment, seeing as she has such a unique perspective and is so willing to offer unsolicited advice.
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Wow. She has some nerve. Not even sure I know where to start. Maybe it would help his electability if she did NOT support him as nominee. Sheesh can’t she just leave well enough alone and let the process work for itself????
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What money does to people - they become tone deaf
To other people’s needs!
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Perhaps this is Hillary’s reverse-play. She is unpopular and vilified. By going negative on Sanders perhaps it is a clever play: Voters will say “the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” thus aligning support behind Bernie.
A cockeyed theory but you never know...
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Not helpful. War between progressive and moderate Democrats only benefits Trump.
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Clinton doesn't like him because he represents the opposite of what she stands for. She stands for the same old same old. A country run by corporations and the wealthiest people in the world. Clinton cares little for the middle class. Sanders does.
It's that simple...period.
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Bernie is Trump's dream opponent.
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I am glad she said it .
It needed to be said.
Unless Bernie acknowledges responsibility for his past actions / comments .. he would not grow to be the leader he is capable of.
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@Tell The Truth Or Go Home
and who better to teach that lesson than the woman who is the living embodiment of the failure to take responsibility for her own many, serious mistakes that gave us Trump.
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Both Sec. Clinton and Francesco Schettino of the Costa Concordia disaster are Captains that steered good ships on to the rocks needlessly, and whose services are no longer needed.
Arguably her disaster caused more deaths, and was also preventable.
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Still can’t believe that in 2020, Hillary Clinton is unable to recognize that she was a flawed candidate who would have lost even if Bernie never ran a primary campaign against her. She was tainted by her vote for the Iraq war, support for the 1994 crime bill, lack of support for marriage equality, etc. Did she expect to win the presidency without receiving any criticism from those running against her? It also should be mentioned that Bernie campaigned harder for her than she did for Barack Obama 8 years earlier (and even dropped out of the race at an earlier date).
Just last week, Bernie was being criticized for sowing divisions in the liberal wing of the Democratic Party and that we should focus on unity. It seems that Secretary Clinton missed that memo.
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Not onlyvyhat, but when the debate moderators wanted Bernie to criticize Hilary overvher "emails" he put them in their place. I voted for Clinton. The current spectacle she is hyping makes her less not more.
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Very few people lose gracefully.
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She just gave Bernie a huge boost.
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If you sum it all up - the good and the bad - the Clintons have not out-pulled the huge weight of their divisive and damaging presence.
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And there are no other people on Earth who did more to pull the Overton window more rightward, sacrificing gains in the liberal direction of the US towards a true world leader. Now we only can look to Bernie with hope he can bring us up to the standard of Scandinavia and Western Europe.
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I didn’t like Hilary before, even though I held my nose for her. Now I really can’t stand her.
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People kept saying that we should vote for a woman. It’s her turn. Guess what? She was lacking in my opinion. Yes I want a woman but she wasn’t the right woman!! The DNC manipulated the nomination and Bernie was shortchanged. The American people would have been better off. Instead we got orange man. If the business as usual democrats didn’t want to work with Bernie, that’s an endorsement for me.
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@Melinda I'm a woman but the women in recent elections have not impressed me. We have Warren who focused on her DNA and instigates a spat over a long-ago conversation, Klobuchar who throws staples and combs at staffers, and now Clinton, who insults another D candidate when the real focus should be on beating Trump. These women don't help the reputation of other women. In contrast, people like Geraldine Ferraro, Shirley Chisholm, Michelle Obama, etc. were/ are class acts.
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HRC should have just stayed on the sidelines as no matter what happens she'll never be POTUS. Now she just sounds BITTER.
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That may be. but that doesn't mean she is wrong. It's true that Bernie hasn't accomplished much during his years in Congress. He does not play well with others and could not garner support from his colleagues. No one likes to work with him, likely because of his "my way or the highway" attitude. How effective could he be as President? And and why would the Democrats make him their nominee when he's not actually a member of the party?
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In 2016, I supported Bernie Sanders and even contributed to his campaign because of Hillary Clinton. Now, I oppose Bernie Sanders because he became Hillary Clinton, albeit, a different face. He became a typical politician, can’t tell the truth with all the millions pouring into his campaign. Elizabeth Warren is the only person on that stage who can steer the country into the right direction With dedication.
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"The truth is that Bernie Sanders is very, very angry—at Donald Trump.
"He is angry enough to have spent weeks travelling on behalf of Hillary Clinton, speaking for her in union halls and arenas, to students and activists.
When he talks, he is entirely Bernie—“We are going to fight for that democracy; we are not going to become an oligarchy”—and he hints strongly that he has done some negotiating with her before getting on the stage, and will continue to do so after, as he hopes, she is elected.
"One of the many things that makes Donald Trump angry is that Bernie Sanders does not seem to hold grudges. In recent speeches, Trump has pointed to the information that has come out, through WikiLeaks’ disclosures of John Podesta’s e-mails, about the Clinton team’s attitude toward Sanders during the primaries: the slights (“doofus”), the schemes (“where would you stick the knife?”), and the eye-rolling (“socialist math”).
Perhaps worst of all—at least from Trump’s point of view—was Donna Brazile’s passing along of debate questions. "Now, Bernie Sanders should be angry right? Shouldn’t he be angry?” Trump asked a crowd in Florida. He sounded a little bit puzzled—he [Trump] would be so mad."
from—"Bernie Sanders’s Hard Fight for Hillary Clinton"
By Amy Davidson Sorkin
The New Yorker
November 4, 2016
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This is how Hillary beckons to bring the Democratic Party back down into the hole she’s in.
The nation has hear enough and more from her.
Begins now, Hillary.
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This is petty and terrible timing. She had her time. Let him take his shot. Her opinion is not needed here. He doesn’t need to be liked. He has a job to do.
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the tone deaf arrogance of her statements should be predictable based on her campaign but they are still shocking.
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Secretary Clinton already helped bring us Trump 1.0.
Maybe we would be better served if Ms. Clinton was more strategic with her comments about the Democratic candidates so as to avoid causing more harm than good.
I can't imagine what Trump 2.0 will mean for our country and the world. Secretary Clinton should be doing all she can to prevent that. It's not clear to me how attacking Senator Sanders is helping defeat Trump.
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I appreciate Hillary Clinton's candor and believe it. Sanders' supporters, especially the Bernie bros, don't seem all that much different from trump supporters with their intolerance for others.
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As a woman I am proud to support Bernie Sanders. And I am tired of hearing the
“Bernie bro” canard. It’s indecent.
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Hillary was given two chances to run for President. In both cases, she lost to candidates she should have easily beat. Indeed Bernie came uncomfortably close as well.
I think she did a fine job as Senator and Secretary of State. However, it is time for her to move aside and support the ultimate goal: restoring constitutional government to the United States.
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Quite simply stated, Bernie doesn't belong in the Democratic party and Ms. Clinton is doing no more than stating the obvious. Mr. Sanders' disparaging of the wealthy and his obsequiousness toward the working classes is not a well thought out, reasonable position for a serious candidate, and he indeed will find it difficult to find common ground with others, such as America's job creators from the corporate community. On a practical level, there is no chance he'll get the money needed to run against Mr. Trump, who will not lack for financial support. Mr. Sanders supporters will be tapped out by the time the election comes around while Mr. Trumps supporters have only just begun to express their support. Finally, if Mr Sanders is elected, no experienced person, whether from finance, agriculture, defense or the energy sectors, will join him and without these experts to guide Mr. Sanders the government will just grind to a complete stop. No, Mr. Sanders just won't do and bless Ms. Clinton for saying so. Freedom!!!
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@Keitr Businesses expand and create jobs in response to consumer demand, not the other way around. The rich aren't so much so creators as the beneficiaries of jobs that need to be created in response to consumer demand. The reason why America has been stagnate (GDP) for so long is that there's too much non-productive money sitting at the top. Money at the corporate top is spent on stock buybacks and other non-productive hoarding activity, UNLESS there is consumer demand that justifies investment in the business.
Capitalism needs consumers to survive, and the American consumer is about tapped out with debt.
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I cannot believe that Clinton, with all the blessings in her life, cannot find the largeness of heart to let go of the fact that someone dared oppose her run for president. She won the primary. Sanders then campaigned for her giving speeches at 39 campaign rallies. And this is how she expresses gratitude? It really speaks to her character that she cannot let this go and move on. It's sad and I feel sorry for her family.
No one likes Sanders? Look at the endorsements he is receiving and the number of supporters of his campaign. All this without media support or corporate cash.
The majority of Sanders supporters are POC and women and young people and multi-cultural working class people. Democrats need us to win the election. Do not dismiss or erase us. We are the future of the Democratic Party and I think that's part of what centrists are so angry about.
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It's unclear to me how Hillary Clinton is risking anything. After all, her political career is complete, is it not; and she's not now, nor is she going to be, a candidate for political office in the future.
Regardless, and financially, she and her husband are set for life. That's a given; so, she doesn't need, nor is it likely she will gain, further income from positions she might take in the current race. If anyone wonders why I'm speaking about dollars and income, please refer to the history of the Clintons.
Those facts aside, the Democratic Party continues to have the problem it's had for decades now: keeping all of its interest groups on the same page. In order to continue to be a major force in American politics, the party should not be distracted by the internecine battles that are currently in progress.
I'm convinced that there is a very real danger that the Democratic Party will splinter into a range of smaller parties that will end up having little power in total. I believe that what is going on now is a harbinger of that result.
My overarching concern is that this result will lead to a weakening of our country. Further, if that happens, it will not be good for the world.
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It is probably not such a good idea to badmouth Sanders at this point. The issue is making sure the Dems win in November. you can badmouth him after November (if he is nominated). However, a more profound question is this: Why have the Dems not produced a medicine for Trump, a candidate who can take him down, in the last 3 years? Was the tsunami so huge that all they could resort to was this field of politicians, some good, but none of them a Trump killer? How can Sanders or Biden be the answer to the question we are all asking, three years down? If anyone else had come up, Clinton's comments would be sans conséquence.
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I think whoever gets the nomination, if it’s not Kolbacher (sp?) Hass to have her As VP, as isn’t she the only one under 70?
Hey Democrats: Let’s show folks what we are FOR—not what or who we are against.
I’m FOR a Democratic candidate. Do I have a favorite? Yes, and it’s not Bernie. I will certainly vote for him, if he’s the nominee. And then watch him lose Virginia (which is too conservative to vote for anyone with a socialist label) and, possibly lose the election.
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@Babs
"I’m FOR a Democratic candidate..." sure you are Babs.
That is why you are here sowing seeds of internal division.
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Bernie Sanders is doing all of us and the country a favor by not running as an Independent. Because,then many (if not most) votes will either go to him or to Trump making it likely that Trump might win. Or Bernie might , in which case it will really look bad (for Democrats who are desperate for a win). in any case ,if he had run as Independent the Democratic votes would be divided leaving Trump the winner. To those Democrats (including former losers) who want their party to win in 2020, I say hold your criticism and may the best candidate be the nominee. Bernie has a large fan base and if he comes out as victor let him have his day as nominee. Put all personal prejudices aside and support whoever is the nominee. Unless you want 4 more years of B grade drama in the white house and the country.
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I have long admired Hillary Clinton but, really, after the debacle of her negligent presidential campaign in 2016, she needs to leave the political stage for the good of the Democratic party and America. It is disgraceful that, at this critical juncture, for purely petty, personal reasons, she is willing to divide the party, weeks before the start of the most consequential US election in generations. Hard to believe, but she is turning out to be as bad for American democracy as Donald Trump.
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Clinton's words, are a tremendous contribution to Trump's campaign, and Trump will only laugh at her for it.
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She can say what she likes. If the press doesn't want to know what she thinks they shouldn't ask her. If you don't like what she says, put your fingers in your ears, or just ignore her. You are free to say what you think, but we don't have to care about that either.
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@Madeline Conant You are right. However, some comments have substantial effects. Sometimes it is better to keep ones comments private because of the hurt they might inflict. Unless you are Donald Trump where he could care less about the hurt.
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I think that you’re mixing things up.
We are suffering under Trump because nobody likes you, Mrs. Clinton.
If you, and the DNC, hadn’t railroaded Sanders, I would bet that Sanders would be our current President.
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Hillary,
Thanks for your help in guaranteeing President Trump’s re-election. The implosion of the Democratic Party is throughly entertaining and will improve once a nominee is selected.
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Hillary is clearly vindictive (ask Tulsi Gabbard) but that doesn't mean she's wrong all the time. Hillary should own losing the election by ignoring (spurning) working class voters hurt by neoliberal policies. But...
Sanders is something of a demagogue; she's correct about that. He taps into some of the same energy as President Trump in the Venn diagram. His goals are much more noble, though.
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To get to the core of Hillary Clinton's comments: what HAS Bernie Sanders gotten done in the 30 or so years he's been in Washington? The naming of a post office?
I've heard him referred to as the Amendment King, but he has no record of his name being attached to any significant legislation. He has no demonstrated ability to play well with others. He's an isolated contrarian. He's a crank.
His followers will shout down and browbeat anyone who dares to speak out against him, especially Democrats. Note: I didn't say fellow Democrats, because Sanders, even though running for the Democratic nomination, is no Democrat. He is a Democrat of Convenience. Once the primaries/nomination process is completed--and he will not be the nominee--he will go right back to being an Independent.
Had Sanders the courage of his convictions (which he clearly does not), he would permanently switch his registration to Democrat.
He's a fraud. His followers are worse and he does nothing to discourage them. Don't hate on Hillary because she spoke the truth. Just today, a group of Sanders surrogates announced they've spent $500,000 denouncing fellow candidates for the Democratic nomination because they're not radical enough.
This is how elections are lost, not how they're won.
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@Susan The Presidency is not about how many bills you've sponsored. It's about ideology, passion and motivating your supporters. Your comments apply to Trump. He did get elected. Hillary didn't. If Bernie is the nominee I gather you will not support him because you are insulted. That would be too bad.
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C’mon, Sanders supporters are not browbeating anyone. It’s just not happening. What they are doing is striking a chord with the electorate that Hillary clearly envies. When she says nobody likes him she’s showing her own insecurities - she still is processing the trauma of America not liking her enough.
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@Susan What has Hillary done other than to pretend that her activities were actual accomplishments
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Hillary lost because the corporate wing of the Democratic party offers them nothing but empty platitudes. Too many regular people either stayed home or hope against hope voted for Trump in protest.
The U.S. is in freefall with declining ife expectancy and quality of life, schools in crisis, a collapsing climate, decaying infrastrucure, ever more insecure worklife, huge student debts, a barbaric healthcare system, almost daily mass shootings, and endless wars. Hillary wanted to stay the course. Biden says the same.
For Hillary and her class, things are fine. Her daughter makes $9 million a year going to corporate board meetings, a position no doubt a result of her hard work.
Anyone who says they aren't, that maybe there is another way, is not liked, is a demagogue, is not being realistic. MLK was not only hated but killed for suggesting that regular had a right to hope for more than what the political elites had on offer. The hatred means that they are getting worried, that our message and organizing is beginning to pay off.
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@Michael Whitehead Well said. Clinton is obviously being trotted out to influence the Iowa caucuses. And that means that Bernie is gaining and her neoliberal backers are worried.
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It would be curious to see heads explode in the democratic party establishment if Bernie Sanders was to waffle on who he would support for the nominee if he didn't win. The hypocrisy here is beyond the pale but, for some reason Hillary is allowed to say it with little, if any, criticism. The more one thinks about it, if the Washington establishment doesn't like Bernie, then that really should be feather in his cap and he should welcome their hatred.
In avoiding super pacs and lobbyists for money, he can concentrate on policy and meeting with the voters, not having fund raisers in wine cellars with rich donors who ultimately always expect much more in return for their "donation".
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It's shameful how Bernie has been treated because he is a decent an moral person, not one without faults, but someone who knows the system is broken and wants to address them
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Some sly geniuses here are speciously claiming that people don't like her, either. Presumably they are referring to Sanders supporters, Trump supporters. Presumably these commenters are Sanders or Trump supporters. These commenters (and their sophistry) understand neither the context nor the facts. When Clinton was in the Senate, people on both sides of the aisle liked and respected her. Her constituents really liked her. When she was Secretary of State, she was well liked and respected in the Department of State. The unlikeable claim is mostly not a reflection of the real world. Mostly it is a dishonest sexist slur that her political adversaries and other critics have unfairly used against her to devastating effect.
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@Robert So, having people like her was an achievement?
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As Obama said once « she is likable enough »
Enough said.
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@Robert
Actually, the unlikable claim about Hillary comes because she makes divisive & counterproductive statements like this slur of Sanders..
.--She took it upon herself to needlessly inject this negative atmosphere into the Democratic campaign.. Democrats are trying to unseat Trump.. And Hillary is hurling insults..
-- That is very unlikable.
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I just don't see the Democratic party splitting over Hillary's criticism or complaints about Sanders.
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Please for the sake of all of us, let this pass. Do not focus on this story, it doesn't help the situation we're in and is NOT news. If the Times/CNN/WSJ/Fox (insert media giant here) doesn't give her print space or air time the story just disappears. Let's focus on only important issues...I don't care what anyone thinks if it's not doing what it takes to restore dignity and integrity back into our politics. Lies and negativity are not helpful no matter who it's coming from.
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Bitter failing twice Presidential Candidate mirroring Nixon more than idealistic much needed, presently sorely lacking,charismatic electable Progressive.
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Run with it, Bernie.
Hit it out of the park.
Take the high road and win.
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@Pia
Nice thought but too late.
He's already spreading lies
About Senator Warren.
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I voted for Clinton in the primary and in the general, but do we really need this? Is it not enough she managed to lose to a two-bit reality tv con man? She wants to help him get a second term by "promoting" this pointlessly divisive documentary right now?
And shame on the media for helping to stir the pot. Is this the mission of the fourth estate? Between cataclysmic wildfires in Australia that warn of climate change, worrying outbreak of contravirus in China that may have already spread, impeachment...is there not enough real news to cover? If it's analysis versus reporting, more attention should be paid to the fine print of Trump's China trade deal and "new NAFTA."
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Mrs. Clinton attacking anyone trying to defeat Trump in 2020 is, in a word, deplorable. Her utterance of that word --directed however accurately at a segment of the voting populace -- in the 2016 general election campaign did her, and Americans in general, no good. The lethargy of her campaign then -- 71 campaign events during the 102 days between the convention and election day -- was deplorable.
While I voted for her, she is overdue to bury the vitriol.
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That comment revealed that to her, the plight working class, no the entirety of the working class, was invisible to her.
She and all of the neoliberals have been complicit with the class war that this country has been conducting on the poor ever since Reagan got elected.
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Well, I should have known Democrats just can't resist destroying each other to help Trump win a second term. Between the pointless internal battle between Warren and Sanders, and now Clinton helping to stir the pot just for a few more minutes in the limelight, I don't know why Trump would even bother running for re-election. Democrats will take each other out for him.
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I am tired of Donald Trump. I am tired of Hillary Clinton. The difference is one is president of the country I live in and the other allow that to happen. The sooner both are history, the better the future will be.
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"Nobody likes him" makes me think of Yogi Berra's, "Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded".
But I actually don't like him either. Mostly because he's a Democrat of convenience. He runs as an Independent when possible, but when he needs a national organization, now he's a Democrat. I wouldn't vote for him in a primary, but I would in a general election against Trump. But maybe not against Bill Weld.
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@Susan
It's amusing to me that the same people who crow that we need to win over independents, hate that Bernie is an independent.
Put two and two together, folks. It's not that hard. And while you're at it, put away the party loyalty blinders for a minute and focus on the country.
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@Susan time to take the red pill Susan. Dems have not much left to offer. Trump 2020
@J.C.
Well, that's not me. I never said that we need to win over independents, so I'm good.
While not surprised, I am so very sad that Hillary Clinton decided to do this. We have clearly learned NOTHING from 2016. Unity if for nothing else to defeat Trump needs to be the only goal at this point. Not if, but when Trump is re-elected in November, we will need look no further than Hillary's poisonous bile to see where we went wrong. AGAIN.
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I was shocked when I read this headline thinking it couldn't possibly be true. I don't understand why Hillary continues to throw fuel on the fire when no one has asked for her opinion? Perhaps that's exactly why!
The comments about Tulsi Gabbard were just as embarrassing. Maybe she feels at this stage she has nothing more to lose and doesn't care which is why she is consumed with such vitriol.
Then I thought perhaps she feels if she can get rid of Bernie - Uncle Joe will pick her as VP and that's what this is about. However she has serious likeability issues and this certainly doesn't help.
Although imagine the enormity of her political debt after losing to Trump - and perhaps the extent she will go to in order to get back to the WH.
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Democrats picked the wrong candidate in 2016. This just confirms it.
Neo - liberalism has been a fifty year dead end for the Democratic Party. Time to move on to a more progressive future.
As for the Clintons, I’m sure their corporate masters will be happy to toss them the necessary speaking fees for their warmed over “wisdom”.
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Ms Clinton, are you going to blame Bernie for you not visiting Wisconsin once during your 2016 campaign? Own up to your feelings of entitlement and that it was "your turn" to be president, as well as lazy staffers taking it for granted that you could beat Trump with minimal effort. You wouldn't likely have won the nomination had it not been for Debbie Wasserman Schultz' finagling with the debates and primaries. Please allow the process to move forward this go around without any meddling, and put party and country over your wounded ego.
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@Lisa This: “ You wouldn't likely have won the nomination had it not been for Debbie Wasserman Schultz' finagling with the debates and primaries.” Absolutely right.
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I haven’t read through all the comments so maybe someone else wrote in to say that it sure is odd that Democrats e.g. Warren, Krugman, Clinton, have piled on to take Sanders down in the last few weeks. God, I hate it when Trump and Tucker Carlson are right. Then again maybe they started this.
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Really, Hilary ? First, Tulsi and now, Bernie ? Politics as usual ? That would so aptly apply to you and the entire Clinton political dynasty.
At the eleventh hour, this is despicable and unforgiving behavior.
I am not even necessarily campaigning for Bernie but he should have been the nominee in 2016 and it was outright stolen from him. He stepped down with dignity and did end up endorsing his Democratic rival.
Bernie has built his base with integrity, courageously and unrelentingly espousing the kind of revolutionary ideas needed to change the political landscape and the planet. His policies crash down on everything that Hilary Clinton stands for— big business, income inequality, a war machine, the status quo
—-politics as usual !
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Hillary's right. His legislative record after 29yrs in Congress is anemic at best.
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Focus - defeating Trump is the GOAL. Bernie Sanders could never get my vote though I like some things he advocates. Look forward - think about what is at stake here in 2020. Bernie can serve the Anti-Trumpism in a capacity other than a candidate for president. Bernie is not electable. There are many in the Democratic field who are - Biden for one. When they join together - meet the goal. Trump has got to go.
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@CharleyBuck
"Bernie Sanders could never get my vote though I like some things he advocates."
You need to vote blue, no matter who.
I did so in 2016, and will do so again in 2020.
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It takes a particular talent to win the popular vote for President and at the same time frighten folks into believing a woman can’t be elected President.
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During the 2016 campaign, Sanders was the most favorable politician in the country. He is now the most favorable candidate.
His fundraising is setting records for donations and number of individual donors.
Sanders consistently polls in the Top 3 candidates nationwide; leads nationwide in the newest national poll; and is leading or in a statistical tie in Iowa and New Hampshire polls.
In polls of swing states, he consistently beats Trump by several points.
To say that "Nobody likes him" is blatantly false.
Voters like him, very much.
To say that "Nobody will work with him" means that the politicians Clinton refers to, "will not work with" the will of the voters.
That says much more about Clinton, and the politicians she refers to, than it says about Bernie Sanders.
Clinton, and those politicians, refuse to accept what the voters want.
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I have NO patience with the “my candidate only” constituency.
You want four more years of this? Actually, vindicated by another win, WAY worse than this?
The “if Bernie isn’t the candidate” attitude is a vote for the current occupant of the Oval Office.
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@Babs
"The 'if Bernie isn’t the candidate' attitude is a vote for the current occupant of the Oval Office."
I completely agree.
And if Bernie or LIz Warren is the nominee, I hope you will feel the same way.
Vote blue, no matter who.
I certainly will (and did in 2016).
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@Babs Absolutely Right! If we all shared your wisdom! Many Thanks & Take Care!
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@Babs
got anything other than a strawwoman?
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Unsurprisingly, no one is willing to or is able to disprove Hillary.
Everything she said here about Bernie is the truth.
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@Dr. John -
There is plenty in this comment that disproves Hillary.
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@Dr. John Well, no, Sanders is liked by many, so she is lying.
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@Dr. John one truth is clear; she LOST to TRUMP
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I believe it is more accurate to say that nobody likes her, as President.
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Does Hillary Clinton want to inject herself slowly into the 2020 elections by splitting the party and projecting herself as the 'savior to unite the different factions' of the Democrat party?
Already she has been going rounds blaming Putin/Russia saying that Trump won the 2016 elections ONLY because of 'Russian interference'.
Nothing can be confidently ruled out with Hillary !
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Putting aside how you feel about either Sanders or Clinton, she did make a valid point that needs to be discussed: his followers really *are* some of the most aggressive, insulting and abusive, especially toward women, on social media. Whether they realize it or not, the "insult them until they agree" tactic is going to cost their candidate some voters. I'm still undecided, but insulting my intelligence and integrity is no way to win me over to the Sanders camp!
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@Donna Graham
Can we drop this characterization of people who disagree with you as "abusive" and "aggressive"? People display strong opinions on social media. This isn't news to anyone who has been on twitter for more than a minute. And you should also know that there are no special rules for women out there. I don't know why you would feel entitled to that.
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I sure wish Hillary would shut up and go take care of her grandchildren. She has nothing to contribute to the party.
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@OldPadre Well, Hillary did, and still does, have a lot to offer America...Unfortunately, she can't seem to put her personal feelings/hurts on the "back burner..." Take Care!
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Just came here to say #ILikeBernie
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@A. So? What will that do? Important people with all the power do not.
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I like Bernie!
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Another hit piece on Bernie below this one on the digital front page about David Sirota.
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This is how Democrats lose elections against deplorables.
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Complaining about Hillary Clinton is like complaining about the Queen of England, or the Pope. None of them need your vote; none of them need your money; and none of them give two hoots about anything we say. Focus people, focus...
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“When they go low, we go high.” Everyone should adhere to Michelle Obama’s advice.
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@JM. The Democrats have tried that for far too long, and it doesn’t work. I’m more a fan of “Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight” and “Fight fire with fire.”
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@Jordan F I like Hillary and voted for her in 2016, but she can do better in her interviews. In private and on the Hill, let them bicker all they want, but when it comes to the media, young people are also watching. What do I tell my students? It's ok to criticize people openly if you don't like them? National leaders have a responsibility to uphold morale, especially since she just authored a children's book. -from a teacher who has seen a great uptick in bullying since 2016
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I wanted Hillary to be our 45th. But, you know what? It's time for her to remove herself from the conversation until after we have a D nominee. Otherwise she's going to be the Jill Stein of 2020.
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Bernie did not cause HRC to lose in 2016.
HRC was responsible for HRC's loss, not Bernie nor Comey nor emails.
HRC did not address the concerns of displaced workers.
HRC does not understand why she lost.
She still wants to run in 2020.
HRC would lose again to Trump.
She should now just up instead of taking out her anger at Bernie.
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Nobody except the people and voters. Hard to hear that from someone who was passed questions before debates with Senator Sanders and who lost an election to Trump that was hers to loose.
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So one of the most consistently unpopular political figures in recent memory (someone who a significant percentage of us in her own political party can't stand, and had to hold our nose to vote for her against Donald Trump) said "no one likes" Bernie.
Ok Boomer.
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@MM -
I am a Boomer and I support Bernie Sanders.
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Wait, wut? Clinton won more votes than Sanders. And Trump. Who is the popular one? Are you playing golf where the lowest score wins?
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Just as with Donald Trump, there seems to be a disconnect between words spoken and deeds accomplished in relation to Bernie Sanders. His supporters don't seem to scratch beneath the surface. What's the plan? Where will the money come from? What compromises will be necessary? Is it unrealistic or possible?
Hillary was dignified, clear in her message, but didn't want to further divide the Democratic party in 2016.
There is no such requirement now, so she can speak the blunt truth.
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Bernie hasn’t suggested anything that isn’t already occurring in other countries. It’s simply a matter of priorities.
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Also, what was Secretary Clinton’s goal here, with these remarks?
We are in a fight for our country here. Our COUNTRY.
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@Joanne -
Hillary hate Bernie Sanders and wants him to fail.
She blames Bernie Sanders for her loss.
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Putting her personal opinion -- and her grudge over her 2016 loss -- ahead of the principle of unifying the Democrats behind a strong candidate, regardless of who wins the nomination. Leadership? I think not.
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Hillary isn’t wrong. Bernie and his followers instigated much of the Democratic party’s division. He is like our version of Trump, someone who never compromises and whom the media has left unscathed. Why don’t you talk to his former staffers and hear what they have to say? Think his unwillingness to pay child support doesn’t reflect his character? He is a lifelong politician who has accomplished very little. Better some opposition research comes out sooner than later.
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@Miriam Webster
This division is not new, nor was it started by Bernie Sanders. It's a movement of people who are tired of being told to sit down, shut up, and vote for another moderate who will do nothing for us.
Bernie Sanders is merely the first candidate to come along to not only hold our values but fight for them, instead of constantly bowing to the pressure of lobbyists and big donors and passing Republican-lite bills. And, perhaps unsurprisingly, some people, like Hillary and her followers, hate him for it.
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This is NOT the time for her to do this. Her time is over. This is an important election. And she is not being helpful.
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"Risks a Party Split"? Come on now, the Democratic party is split every which-way already. The looming brokered convention will be a great spectacle when the knives come out, figuratively speaking of course. I am almost convinced that the only one left standing will be Donald Trump.
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Good for her. She just made the Warren Sanders spat look like a lovers quarrel. During MLK parade Warren and Sanders were allying arm in arm.
A woman can of course be elected president, except if her name is Hillary Clinton.
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Hillary Clinton has a lot of nerve. She lost the race because her team did not listen to Bill Clinton when he told them to visit the very states she lost. Makes me even more of a Sanders supporter.
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What i don’t get is why the democratic party continues to accept him (or Bloomberg) as a democratic candidate when he just registered last year to enter the race (again like in 2016). I don’t hate Sanders but he is as opportunistic and populist as POTUS. We need to stop believing we are a two party democracy and stop the fallacy of twi hats fit all. And for HRC, she is entitled of her opinion. So far the majority of things she said in 2016 have proven to be truth.
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Clinron may as well just endorse Trump. What is wrong with her?
Not saying she has to endorse Sanders. She can prefer and endorse whomever she pleases, but to publicly badmouth any potential Dem candidate in this way is deleterious to the party. What if Sanders becomes the nominee? Will she turn around (like the hypocrite she is, by the way) and support him? Please, please Ms Clinton, retire from political life, get a job, do whatever works for you, but this kind of careless commentary makes me wonder if you're losing any sense of what is constructive for your party at this critival time.
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Hillary, I always thought you would be a good manager if you had been elected. But you were not. Move along, please, and let others work it out for themselves.
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She is right, who wants to work with an extremely arrogant idealist who hails from nowhere and is ignorant of basic economics.
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@Tammy
I’m not a strong Bernie fan, but to say he’s ‘from nowhere’ is ignorant & insulting to the people of Vermont—a gorgeous progressive state. In nearly every quality of life indicator, Vermont is at the top. As the former mayor of Burlington, U S Congressman, & Senator, it’s quite likely Sanders has played some part.
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@Tammy that's what we thought about people from Arkansas.
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Wait, who is extremely arrogant, Tammy?
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Kinda seems like she’s projecting a bit on this one.
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Did Hillary Clinton just call me nobody? That kind of hurts after having voted for her back in 2016.
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I like him and most all my close friends do
ridiculous of her to say
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The woman is right. Nobody likes him.
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I do !
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Sanders is not my favorite; but to say “nobody likes him” probably reflects an in-group “elitist” view more than anything else. Look at the numbers! Sanders did not cause Clinton to lose the 2016 election; it had more to do with her per se ... not as a “her” but rather something about her apparently ... you name it. What’s critical now in 2020 is to get rid of Trump, and this intra-party emotional criticism of Clinton, sour grapes as it is, does not accord with this.
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Hillary caused her own problems by not going to states like Michigan and Pennsylvania by not going to Louisiana after a major storm and handing out water with her staff of volunteers. Going after Bernie at this point is bizarre and uncalled for. What I didn’t like about the DNC process in 2016 was Wassermann and her behavior which caused Bernie to not win the DNC nomination. But we all supported Hillary in-spite of herself. She didn’t even put the the Donald in his place when he was following her around the stage. Her timing is just lousy. And as far as Bernie’s supporters...really do you read what the Trumpzoids are writing on Facebook?
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Bernie has a problem with women voters, black voters, Hispanic voters (another than his friendship with AOC), southern voters, etc.
Here we are again trying to blame Hillary for Bernie's failings, the Democratic party's failings, the world's failings...it never ends with the Hillary trashing.
She is a private citizen. She is entitled to her opinion. Her views are quite commonplace.
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@Gus
The idea that any of those demographics have a problem with Sanders is just an outright lie. I think what you mean is that people in your Hillary bubble have a problem with him.
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Truth out had an article today suggesting Hillary is considering another run, it would make sense her base 3pecially AIPAC and Wall Street is scared to death of Bernie, the money for fighting endless wars for Israel might dry up if the taxpayers preferred healthcare and education over bombs and a Wall Street Albigensian with mega international corporations paying zero taxes must be absolutely beside themselves. It’s Americas Middle Classes last chance at survival I’m doubling my monthly contribution to Bernie.
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Oh, please.
Don't dare do this pearl-clutching and accuse Clinton of opening up this can of worms.
Have some integrity.
Sanders, once again, is willing to go to the gutter as he did in 2016. I am one of thousands, hundreds of thousands, of women who felt the irrational wrath and unbridled misogyny of so many of Sanders' most vociferous, and obnoxious, supporters. We don't need anyone to remind us how it felt to be relentlessly smeared, doxxed, and diminished. We don't need anyone to remind us that then, as now, Bernie Sanders did absolutely nothing about it. He took an entire generation of young, inexperienced voters and led them to eat and repeat the same decades-old, Republican-funded Clinton smears that had existed for ages. Then, as now, he either played dumb, ignored it, or blamed it on rogue surrogates. It's beyond time that Saint Bernard gets honestly vetted and exposed and challenged for his disingenuous, passive-aggressive behavior. Morning Joe was full of folks this morning, calling Sanders to task for his behavior. It's lousy, cowardly journalism to try to put this on Clinton. She's entitled to her opinion, last time I checked.
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12 Michigan counties voted Obama 2x and flipped to Trump. Sanders beat Hillary in 9 of 12. The same analysis holds for PA, WI, Iowa and more. The facts are Sanders was the better candidate against Trump. It's understandable Hillary cannot embrace that the problem was her, not Sanders. But, it really was her. Whatever Sander's flaws are, he represents the most energetic force in politics today, on either side of the aisle. In 2016, 70% of all donations < $200, Clinton at 16%. Now, 5m donations (compare to Democrats should be done with Hillary Clinton already. America is.
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That math makes no sense. Sanders barely beat Clinton in the MI primary - which is of course an electorate limited to Democratic primary voters. You cant extrapolate to an electorate of all voters.
@KJ look it up. It’s true. In Wisconsin, 22 counties were Obama-Trump counties. Sanders won all 22. Hillary was an awful trump foe.
So it turns out that Hillary Clinton is nothing more than a high school mean girl. "Nobody likes him." Wow, what a stateswoman.
I find it amusing that she and her supporters have proven to be all of things they accuse Sanders and his supporters of being and more. They engage is tired, silly conspiracy theories (He cost her the election!), regurgitate gotchas at each other (Aha! Look at this thing he said in 1979!), engage is sexist talk of mythical "Bernie Bros", and try to outdo each other in their victimhood ("One of the Bernie Bros attacked me and called me a name! He said I'm a centrist!)
I've had enough of this juvenile nonsense. While Rome is burning, Hillary and her followers are acting like a bunch of schoolkids. Move on or step aside.
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Hillary needs to get over her loss and change her appalling selfish behavior. She made it possible for Trump to be elected President.
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This is the best thing to have happened to the Sanders campaign this week. There is no greater endorsement for a progressive than that Hillary Clinton hates you.
I just gave him $50 toward fighting these corrupt, entrenched, entitled quasi-Republicans. I suspect a lot of other people will too. Thanks, Hillary!
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Can we ask for a national poll?
A simple "If the election were held today, who would you...."
1. D. Trump
2. H. Clinton
3. B. Sanders
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Is it just me? Or is Bernie Sanders the Count from Sesame Street?
"It's the one! The one percent. And the two! The two percent. And the one tenth of the one percent!"
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Don't get me wrong. I love Bernie. I will proudly vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. (I voted for him in the 2016 primary, and then voted for Hillary in the 2016 general election.)
He has completely changed the political conversation in America. We are now talking seriously about income inequality and universal healthcare. As we should be.
But how could you not love Bernie? I am in the Larry David camp.
"I got two pairs of underwear. Two! Those other fancy candidates -- they've got like four or five pairs. I'm wearing one right now. And I rinsed the other one out in the sink, and it's drying on the radiator."
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I have a better idea. Lets just sell off parts of the USA to the highest bidders. The 1% owns most of everything, it a matter of De facto becoming De Jure. Were just wage slaves or modern serfs at best. Give the franchise back to those who were supposed to hold it in the original Constitution and move on.
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It has started. This is Hillary's first step in setting up the scenario for her to ride into a brokered convention and steal the nomination. Divide and conquer!
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Ugh, the Clinton hubris...truly, truly knows no bounds. Even with some distance from her defeat, even with the benefit of retrospect, and , I'm sure, plenty of respectful, intelligent individuals who would be willing to work with her and help her understand what she cannot seem to grasp on her own about progressive politics in the United States, if only she would sincerely ask,...she remains as obtuse and as arrogant as ever. I don't need any more proof that she was never the President of the United States, the leader of the Free World that we needed and that we still need. Someone who cannot humbly admit their faults and seek to understand those who she disagrees with, someone who instead resorts to the sort of base, bitter commentaries and insults that she employed as part of her defense in all this, is no leader to me at all.
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Q: The Sanders campaign is supported by a large number of very smart, very progressive women, including national politicians. How does this square with the notion that his campaign is dangerously sexist?
A: It doesn't, unless you hate him, fear him or can provide evidence that I haven't seen.
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i don't like him. He whipped young folks up last time around with the 'free college' angle and that is not something I am interested in paying for at all.
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@ray The more educated our population is, the better and less violent our communities will be. Are you interested in paying for the 35-38% of our budget that goes to the military instead of improving our lives?
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@Greta I have already paid for school until 18. I feel no reason to pay for more...that is when folks take responsibility for their own future. The argument of 'pay for college or i'll commit crime' is not a valid reason to be a criminal. I actually say we bring back chain-gangs and make criminals earn their keep.
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Yeah, okay fine.
I'm not a big Bernie fan anymore, but really? Are we going to systematically find people to bash each one of the candidates?
I voted for Secretary Clinton and would do so again if she was the nominee - but I am a Yellow Dog Democrat at this stage. I'd vote for an old yellow dog before voting for, or anyway enabling, Trump.
Jill Stein got more than the margin of votes between Trump and Clinton in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Let's not do that again.
For what it's worth - I'm pulling for Klobachar.
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Yet she persists as the lesser of two terrible candidates. The DNC forced her upon us. She may have been a better President, but with a decidedly neo-liberal bellicose spin. She alone lost and gave us Trump. That’s what means “the buck stops here”; taking full responsibility for ones losses. You fight the battle that is, not the “it wasn’t fair” one.
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Seems like the Democrats are trying to help President Trump win re-election. Or they are so blatantly self centered that they don’t care. Either way it works for us Trump supporters.
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He got nothing done? He single handedly opened the road for progressive politics in the US in our times.
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Vindictiveness, thy name is Hillary. I have regretted my vote for her several times over, like every time she's opened her mouth since the election. Bernie isn't even my first choice, but I just made a contribution to his campaign. Now that the polls are showing he actually has a chance of winning the primary, the knives are out -- everyone is jumping all over him. Well, Hillary, I like him. Millions of people like him.
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Attempting to throw a monkey wrench into the progressive cause may well be a short lived enterprise. Hillary reacted to the Sanders/Warren spat & thought she saw a wave. False start & penalty sustained, don't pass go, etc.
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I supported Bernie in 2016 and when Hillary won the nomination I supported her. I am sure others here have said the same thing. trump would not be *45 if not for the non-support shown by "the Bernie Bros". When they came calling at my door last year for my support, I slammed the door in their faces. If you are going to run on the Democratic ticket, then you support the Democratic ticket. If you can't do that, then you need to take your chances as an independent.
That said, everyone in this party needs to grow up and understand that you are trying to get a coalition of millions of very diverse people. If you don't accommodate, if you don't cooperate then the entire ship is going to go down in another lard ball of burning orange flame.
I expect better behavior from a group 5 year old's. Your time out is over. Put the past behind you and stop acting like a bunch of toddlers. There are more important things to worry about than your hurt feelings.
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Secretary Clinton,
You are respected and admired in the Democratic party. If you support other candidates, please just come out and say it. To smear Bernie Sanders this way is beneath you and the office you once held. You do yourself or the other candidates no good with your rhetoric.
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Very clearly here, Hillary Clinton cannot help expressing her complete contempt (on a global stage) for the millions of people who not only like Bernie Sanders very much, but also very much want to have him for our next president.
And also quite apparent here is the fact that Hillary Clinton's first purpose is to throw mud at Bernie, much like an angry child who nastily blames others her own incompetence—and who cannot conceive how ugly her behavior has always been toward the millions of Americans (and others) she looks down on.
(And how are her words here much different from the tantrums of Trump towards the people he despises?)
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Many people find it really hard to retire after years of doing a job they enjoyed and that served them well.
In my humble opinion, Sanders should take example from Hillary and retire too, before being humiliated as she was.
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His agenda is what counts. He would agree. That’s why he is much much more popular with the public than Hillary.
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She has an issue with how some of his key staff and supporters are treating female opponents? That's pretty rich coming from Bill's largest enabler during the Monica days (and beforehand). Go away Hillary, your time was up after your delayed concession speech all those years ago.
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can someone please view the Mary J Blige video? Hillary thought that it was her due to become the first president who was a woman and it wasn't her right and she lost. She lives with that bitterness daily. So when people say forgive and forget and move on, it's not that easy. She is case in point. #sad
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I voted for Clinton because I had no choice, but she and her husband— who I voted for twice—need to go away and just keep still.
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Hillary needs to back off from her negative commentary of Bernie Sanders and let the people decide if he is the appropriate to be President of the United States. If Bernie runs against Trump he will be crucified as a wild left wing socialist.
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I like Bernie.
I do not like Hiliary.
I don't count?
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I am not a Sanders supporter, but can HRC please just go away? Literally nothing she can say or do at this point will help the Democratic Party.
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I personally know of no one, including myself, who voted for Hillary Clinton because we liked her. She was simply the only viable candidate aside from Trump. This past election was a competition between two kinds of voters, those who reluctantly voted for Clinton to stop Trump, and those who reluctantly voted for Trump to stop Clinton. Like many Americans, I would have gladly voted for Sanders and personally witnessed Democratc voters turned away in a high Sanders popularity area during the primaries. The truth is: Clinton is a dragon and a relic of old power. I think most of us would take Sanders and his crazy ideas over her corruption, any day.
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@KMcNiff
I guess the rest of the "civilized" world is crazy, especially on the insane idea that everyone should have the right to healthcare.
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Do any of the Bernie supporters who are in a lather over these remarks ever interrogate their hatred for Clinton. Do they have any awareness that they may have have fallen for a 30 year right-wing smear campaign? That much of their critique against anyone who gets in Bernie's way seems to have a bright thread of sexism running through it? It's astonishing that they hold their candidate to a completely different set of rules from anyone else. When Warren takes the time to work through her health care plan she's evasive. When Bernie refuses to give details he's principled. It's bizarre.
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And once again, I agree with her. He is no President material. we all know that.
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@MykGee
It seems the electorate thought the same about Clinton, TWICE even after she was annointed by the party.
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Secretary Clinton said that? Honestly, feels like an endorsement to me.
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How often have we heard Hillary attack republicans? How often does she go after progressives?
Party unity?
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@Mathias
Party unity, only if the party decides ahead of time who the candidate will be then everyone has to "get in line", "progressives not welcome".
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Of all the candidates running for the Democratic nomination, Sanders is the least likely to defeat Trump head-to-head. He destroyed Hillary, and now he wants to destroy everyone else running against him. Is he working for Putin? He's the Ralph Nader of 2020. No wonder Trump is in such a good mood lately.
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Hillary Clinton is looking in the mirror, but doesn't believe what she sees. Yes, her chances were cut by Comey, Russia and the existence of the electoral college, but there is another plain truth. She wasn't liked by enough voters to make a critical difference.
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@eduKate
There was a reason why the democratic party had one of the lowest turnout rates in Presidential election history. Trump had the worst approval rating of any candidate in history and Hillary was second worst. Also note, the corporate establishment wing of the democratic party has a lower approval rating than republicans.
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I am always surprised to see the level of support Bernie has. Progressives won’t take over the country, they are in the minority and don’t have the electoral map in their favor.
Trump is salivating at the thought of Bernie. I can hear it now “You want to elect this guy? His heart is weak, didn’t he just have a heart attack? Weak hearted Bernie can never run this country.”
I am sorry for all of the supporters who are blind to this but he couldn’t beat Hillary, and won’t beat Trump let alone Warren / Bloomberg / Biden.
The progressives have some good points but now is not the time to be radical, appeal to the middle and win the silent majority back (they still exist).
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@Michael
The middle in 2016 is what got Trump elected in the first place.
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Bernie did 40 rallies for her support AFTER she won the nomination. 40. This is how she pays him back.
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Hillary apparently still cannot accept that the 2016 was an ELECTION, not a coronation for her. How bitter and malicious is Hilary Clinton? Let me count the ways:
1. According to polls, Bernie is the most liked politician in America, by far.
2. Bernie made 41 campaign appearances on behalf of Clinton after he lost the primary to her. (She would NEVER have done the same for him.) Yet she is STILL trashing him, even after he lost to her with grace and dignity. Sounds a lot like Trump.
3. Since she lost, what has she done to rescue are Democracy and continue fighting the good fight? Mainly go on multi-million dollar book tours. While Bernie, day after day, kept building his grassroots movement, tirelessly doing the actual unglamorous work to make the world a better place.
4. Corruption within the DNC lead by Debbie Wasserman Schultz (the payday loan queen and Clinton's best gal pal), sought to illegally undermine the 2016 Sanders campaign. But he STILL went out and campaigned for Clinton after he lost. He said very nice things about her in the last debate, pointing out that she actually won the popular vote.
5. Several articles in major papers wrote about Bernie's extraordinary behind the scenes ability to get legislation passed with Republicans. So Clinton's inflammatory claim that no one wants to work with him is a malicious lie.
I now really despise this woman. Trying to sink Bernie's 2020 campaign out of pure malice. Her true colors have come out.
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@Laura Philips
The corporate establishment wing of the democratic party has blinded itself to the current state of affairs in America STILL believing their way to victory is the only way. That mentality got Trump elected in 2016 and this similar attitude might just make the same mistake again 2020.
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Admittedly, Bernie Sanders’ campaign in 2016 took votes that would have helped Clinton defeat Trump. But Clinton herself was an awful candidate who could never come up with an answer about her server and who allowed a neophyte politician to out-block and out-tackle her in crucial parts of the electorate. I am sure she has lots of nightmares about the 2016 campaign. And Bernie did indeed damage her. So did Jill Stein, Vladimir Putin, and a media that thought good journalism meant equating Clinton and Trump as equally undesirable candidates. But the biggest obstacle to Clinton’s victory was Hillary Clinton herself. She needs to face that.
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@Mike They were 2 different elections. Sanders ran against Clinton in the primaries. Trump wasn't there.
Clinton ran against Trump in the presidential election. Sanders wasn't there.
It was literally Impossible for Sanders to "steal" votes from Clinton against Trump.
I seriously worry about the Democratic party.
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She lost twice, once to a freshman senator and another time to a two-bit self-promoting talk show host with zero political experience, despite assembling a formidable political machine that had the backing of her own party each time. She is in no position to pass judgments on others’ campaigns.
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Once again, it's all about her. With Donald Trump in the White House and Republicans not lining up to challenge him in a primary, the last thing Hillary should be doing is slamming any Democrat who's running. It's not surprising, though - she's been whining about her own loss of the presidency from day one.
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Well, as a Republican - I am thrilled to see this intramural fight.
There is a word for it - Schadenfreude or something like that.
I think the Democrats need some of this - getting things off chest, settling scores and back stabbing.
While we had Reagan's 11th commandment of "not criticizing another Republican" - even he knew it was just a talking point.
The Democrat debates are so so boring - rather prudish - where in a debate format - no one contradicts nobody.
Enter Ms. Clinton.
Of course, she is going to blame someone for her loss.
Our POTUS would have done the same - may be using stronger language.
So, I say - bring it on.
And we in the Republican party typically nominate an old party war horse. Think McCain, Bob Dole, Old man Bush and even Nixon.
So, I say to Bernie - finally rise up and prove Hillary wrong.
Get that nomination.
You will then have 6 more years in the senate to find another senator to work with.
And you can say "See, I told you so. Hillary is wrong. I am a likeable person after all."
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This will create a more "OK, Boomer" response than you could ever imagine.
I'm 69 years old, so absolutely a boomer and the later generations' disgust at the world we have handed them is well earned.
It's time for the Clintons to step aside. It's time for Democrats to be Democrats again rather than afraid of their own shadow and running Republican lite.
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I can't think of anything else Hillary Clinton could do or say that would gain more votes for Sanders from Trump supporters, Democrats disenchanted with their Party, and the many who are not surprised at this narcissism. She rarely says what she thinks - this may be another reason for that.
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Never did like her much from the time she was a candidate's wife through all the other iterations. Will admit she's smarter than Trump, but it was not easy to choose her as the lesser of two evils.
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Obama reached across the aisle and got virtually zero republican votes for a healthcare plan created by the conservative Heritage foundation. Is it any wonder why droves of democrats and independents are rejecting “pragmatism?”
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As usual, there are plenty of comments calling Hillary Clinton a loser with only herself to blame. Only Hillary Clinton could be called a loser repeatedly after beating everyone in both parties in the popular vote in both the 2008 and 2016 primaries and in the 2016 general election. So what does that make everyone else? It is not Hillary who is the loser, it is us for allowing a party with distinctly minority positions on most issues to win. These decisions from restricting women's rights for a generation at least to damaging the planet by ignoring climate change will haunt us for years to come because of prejudice toward Hillary Clinton by her own party.
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Really? Was Hillary the candidate in 2008? Nope. She got beat by a freshman Senator. She never should have been the candidate in 2016.
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@DAL She had slightly more popular votes than Barack Obama but two states were thrown out, Florida and Michigan because of rules problems that had nothing to do with her. This threw the result to Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton has outpolled every politician Republican or Democrat period. This is not to say that I am not also an admirer of Barack Obama, but I think she would have been better on foreign policy and space policy.
My wife and I voted first for Bernie in 2016, but later for Hillary because Trump as President was clearly unthinkable. In view of the current scurrilous attacks now on Bernie however, I am appalled by the mean spirited comments on this man who courageously fought on, despite the DNC's sabotage, to his beliefs so redolent of FDR's aims and principles to help the common man vs. the super rich, and without turning against Hillary. - How disgusting it is that she is without his dignity and great character.
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Mrs. Clinton seems out to set a new record. Not just the worst candidate for her party in American electoral history, but the worst former candidate for her party in American electoral history.
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Prescient Obama has not commented on the 2020 Democratic primary now in progress. I wish Hillary Clinton had the same good sense.
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Bernie is to government, what tv preachers are to religion. Don't believe a word he says about what he can do, when in 30 years he hasn't done anything of consequence.
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Massive projection by the second most disliked politician in America. Btw Sanders has the highest approval rating of any US Senator.
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She right! Bernie has no creds. Why anyone would support a guy like Bernie with his dicey heart and grouchy honking personality and caved in frame just short of needing a walker is beyond me. He never was a good candidate and never will be.
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So is this why there was so much resistance to Sanders from the party powers in 2016?
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Thank you Secretary Clinton, for reminding me to give another $27 to Bernie's campaign.
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Please, oh, please! Let’s all sing from the same hymn book now. We can dispute our differences later—after we have WON!
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I respect Ms Clinton (I voted for her) but her time passed and she needs to let the party move on without her.
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This is obvious. Look at him. Listen to him. Team player? Compromiser? Nice person, someone you would want to invite over for a meal or to work with on a team project? Of course not. This is undoubtedly why the mainstream Dems went out of their way to torpedo him last time and will this time, too, I'm sure. Even they don't want to work with him.
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@Kurfco Sanders won 43% of the primary votes in 2016, and the people who voted for him understood that the Democratic establishment "went out of its way to torpedo him."
It's something to be ashamed of, not brag about.
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@Talbot
Clearly, those who know him the least are the ones who like him.
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When she said "nobody likes" Bernie Sanders, she was clearly speaking of other senators and the reasons are obvious. He's an un-Democrat. He's a liberal who supports strong gun rights. He couldn't get much done, because he wasn't part of either the Democrat or Republican tribes. In a way, he's a populist, like Trump. He's just very liberal. He's what the Democratic party needs, because no one else has a better chance running against Trump.
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I can't help but feel that Bernie Sanders is to the democratic party what Trump is to the republican party.
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@Wally Wolfd
In a way, yes. And if Sanders wins Iowa, NH and/or Nevada, then we'll see if they go full NeverSanders on him.
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That is exactly why Bernie is the only Dem who can beat Trump.
Hillary is right as usual. I have been an active Democrat for decades and I have never met another Dem who can stand him.
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@Mars & Minerva
He won 23 states in 2016 and you've never met a Democrat who likes him? Do you live inside the DNC? I find this really hard to believe.
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I am still ticked about how, and why, the "Democratic establishment" scuttled Sanders' 2016 campaign to ensure HRC's nomination and then blew the 2016 presidential election through arrogance, insouciance and over-confidence.
I have never been a hard-core "anti-establishment" type but the 2016 experience almost got me there.
That said, I would vote for anyone who could soundly defeat Trump in 2020, be it Biden/Bloomberg/Buttigieg/Sanders/Warren.
But, sometimes the Dems exemplify “never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity”...
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It was obvious from the 2016 election that Bernie Sanders does not play well with others. He was not gracious in defeat for the nomination, and the fact that some of his supporters voted for Donald Trump, or didn't vote at all, should have been a question in his conversation with the NY Times editorial board. What kind of leadership is it if Sanders couldn't even convince his supporters of the danger of Donald Trump?
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O well I'll add my voice for what it's worth. She's not wrong.
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It's funny when you juxtapose Hillary's characterization of Bernie with the image of Sanders and Warren walking yesterday with their arms linked at the MLK march in South Carolina. Not to say Sanders and his positions are above scrutiny. Most people would argue that type of discourse is healthy for a democracy. But for Secretary Hillary to smuggle these indictments of sexism into her critique is very telling, and frankly, should be beneath her. She harps on Bernie's divisive ethos, yet in my mind, she perpetuates it and takes it to the next level by declining to endorse him should he win the nomination.
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we need an end to empire and oligarchy.
we need to abolish student debt, provide medicare for all, shut the fossil/nuke industry and convert to a solartopian green-powered economy, end homelessness, win social justice, make college free to all and so much more.
we also need guaranteed rights to vote and to have the ballots reliably counted, with the abolition of the electoral college, and much more.
i'm glad to see hillary clinton finally supporting all that.
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Bernie's fault is that he is not a woman. I am pretty sure that Hillary would like a woman president now, perhaps Warren.
Nothing wrong with Warren as such, and she IS much younger than Bernie.
But Bernie does have a reputation for integrity, at least in my eyes. Warren, by claiming native American ancestry at one time, and, more recently, accusing Bernie of something quite implausible, does make me worry.
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@Ludwig
In the mind of many progressives within her team and those in general, ironically, the NYT endorsement might just have been the "kiss of death" to Warren's hope as the nominee.
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Integrity. Sure.
But no, he is NOT likeable. He is not nice.
He’s gruff.
D
Didn,t like him then.
Do not like him now.
Will hold my nose if I have to vote for him
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I have to say that having Hillary confess that she doesn’t like him and if true – that many of her former colleagues don’t either; is yet another reason why Bernie is so likable to yours truly.
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@Dean Dacian
I would submit, if you are at odds with the corporate/establishment "corrupt" wing of the democratic party then you must be doing something right.
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It seems that the citizens of Vermont love Bernie. He ran unopposed in many elections.
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@Phyllis Mazik Well, if Bernie wins the primary and runs against Trump, Vermont may find solace in having him back to run unopposed again.
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Bernie had his chances at making a run. I believe he truly enjoys the “idea” of running...a lot more than the bother of actually being present, working really hard and swimming through the scrum of criticism that gets thrown at all candidates. There’s more than a bit of cranky here. Run hard, go after it. Or just fade away. With respect
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@Maureen McKenna
At the beginning of the 2016 democratic primary, Sanders was an unknown Senator from the small state of Vermont, whom within a year wiped out a 60 point lead of the annointed democratic candidate and ended up winning 22 states in the primary. Of course, he did not win and we can discuss ad nauseum the reasons why, however, that should have indicated to the party and the country itself that there was some sort of momentum being built here and it was no fluke and that is why Bernie chose to run again and it is now being confirmed in the polls.
Of course, the DNC chose to ignore it all (and still does), and for that attitude the party paid dearly in the 2016 election and if they choose to make the same blinded mistake again, Trump could get another four years.
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Bernie won't be elected president, but I'm going to vote for him for the same reason that I would have voted for Goldwater had I been a conservative in 1964: he is the herald of a big swing toward a different way of thinking that is starting to gather momentum now and will come to fruition sometime in the next eight to twelve years. So Trump buries him in the general. So what? A centrist candidate will certainly lose to Trump the same way Hillary did, and four more years of Trump may be exactly what progressive Dems need to consolidate their base and what it'll take for the Republican party to permanently disable itself as a credible organization.
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And I don't like you either, Secretary Clinton. But beyond the human and personal, I don't like your policies as they have played out over my life, or those of your husband.
I think women are as capable of gender discrimination as men. In this case with Senator Sanders it plays out on his limited emotional range, which, true or not, and I concede a good bit of it, is a charge modern American women have leveled against modern American men for most of my adult life.
And I voted for you in the 2016 Presidential contest, after supporting Sanders in the primary.
I vote, with certain limits, Mrs. Clinton, my class interest, and you are so far from my lived life experience in that regard maybe we're from different solar systems.
Or different planets at least.
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If Ms. Clinton could have gotten Sen. Sanders onboard as the VP candidate instead of Senator Kaine (whom I had never heard of prior to the 2016 campaign), she may well be the current resident of the White House. Why? Because it would have kept the moderates and progressives in the Democratic Party together. Instead, her campaign was more akin to a "coronation" as her "time was due" and the haughtiness of that attitude allowed the worst possible opponent, who should have been easy to beat, to have the keys to the White House instead. Let's hope they don't repeat the same mistake in 2020.
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Do we really need another politician who refuses to compromise?? One whose answers are the ONLY possible answers??
I’m looking at you, Senator Sanders.
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@Babs
No, I think it is the corporate/establishment wing of the party that doesn't want to compromise and it shows in their disdain for Sanders who talks about policies. They are more interested in collecting money from big donors and hiring consultants than actually winning elections and the donors that "foot the bill" don't like Sanders either.
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I do agree with at least some of what she's saying. That said, her time is over, and she needs to back off. Dems need to look forward, and Clinton is not contributing to that end.
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The last time I supported Hillary Clinton was before the Ohio primary in 2008, when I sent a ,for me, substantial contribution to her campaign. After Ohio, I saw that she was an unconvincing and rather repulsive campaigner and thought that Barack Obama was going to beat her. Since the 2016 election I have been quite unhappy with her behavior. In many public appearances she appeared to be feeling sorry for herself and full of resentment. That she kept saying in 2008 that she was 'so ready to lead' seems increasingly ironic. She might have helped to rally the party after 2016 to save the country and instead she is venting resentments in a way which will make that task more difficult. I did vote for her in 2016, though I was worried about reports that she was the most hawkish member of the Obama administration when she was Secretary of State and I feared that she might get us into more wars.
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@jwhalley
It was Mark Shield who said to the PBS panel the night of her nomination, when her hawkishness cane up, she was right of Attila the Hun.
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It's funny when you juxtapose Hillary's characterization of Bernie with the image of Sanders and Warren walking yesterday with their arms linked at the MLK march in South Carolina. Not to say Sanders and his positions are above scrutiny. Most people would argue that type of discourse is healthy for a democracy. But for Secretary Clinton to smuggle these indictments of sexism into her critique is very telling, and frankly, should be beneath her. She harps on Bernie's divisive ethos, yet in my mind, she perpetuates it and takes it to the next level by declining to endorse him should he win the nomination.
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What I see in Clinton's comments is a profound disdain for millions of common Americans who support Sanders. He may or may not be a good candidate. But those who support him have their reasons. These reasons are not any worse than reason to support any other Democrat candidate. As far as I can see, none of them can actually beat Trump. But this is not the point. The point is that you have to respect people's opinion. You have to think about and you have to try to understand their motives, rather than outright dismiss them. Then you will have learned something. Clinton and the Democrats show again and again that they organically are incapable of learning. The only reason why they cannot learn is because they practice an elitist exclusionary approach. People for them have no value in themselves. They are only as good as the votes they provide. Beyond that they have no value for the Democrat elites. They do not see anything about people with their life-long experience worthy of attention. Only their votes matter. That's why they will lose and lose bad.
no reasons that are worth considering.
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@Gennady
You have just put your finger on the reason why up until the 2018 mid-terms in the previous eight years, democrats lost almost 1000 seats at the state and federal levels, two thirds of the states governments and ALL THREE branches of the Executive.
Bill Clinton turned the party to the right in the 1990s and walked away from millions of working people and previous supporters whom when Hillary was the nominee, they had no connection with her whatsoever.
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Perhaps the one who lost against Donald Trump shouldn’t be throwing stones.
It’s clear the powerful and rich are scared by the prospect of a Sanders presidency. His media coverage makes that all too clear.
The reality is many Americans want and need a Bernie presidency. A single payer healthcare system would revolutionize the country and lift many out of the relentless cycle of debt that obscures American freedom.
Perhaps if Clinton weren’t so out of touch with an average Americans life - she’d be in power now.
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Whatever we may think about Bernie’s ideas or prospects at winning a general election, and where those concerns should prudently lead, one thing of which he cannot be accused is insincerity.
He is a patriot. Had he been around in 1776, he wouldn’t have waited to join Washington at Valley Forge until after he had first convened a focus group. With Hillary, you knew there were always two tracks running at the same time. She banked on thinking she had her triangulation just right. It was all so forced and synthetic. Like a needle forever skipping on a record (I date myself). Let her have her bitterness if it furnishes some measure of consolation. But why do we need to have it served up as news?
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@Xanadu And let us realize that Sen. Clinton - on her worst behavior - would certainly have been better than what we have NOW...Take Care!
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Would Clinton's endorsement bring any democratic candidate support they didn't already have? Voters don't owe anyone their vote, and many of us choose to remain unaffiliated because we are increasingly put off by the idea that we do. Treating people like they have a brain instead of a debt to pay the DNC certainly wouldn't hurt any of the candidates.
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This kind of statement is just going to divide the party even more...it's really too bad she went there. It's clear that many voters want a big change and Bernie's platform resonates with them. This isn't the time to make statements like this if she wants 45 to be a one-term president.
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I like him. That's all that counts for me.
Maybe it's better that Hillary lost.
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Hillary's problem was she mistook an election for a coronation, and still has not come to terms with not being elected Queen.
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@Curt
Sadly, now we have a King.
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AOC likes Bernie Sanders.
And I like AOC.
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I don't.
I prefer people who have earned their positions and actually know what's going on, but you enjoy your teenage stanning moment.
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@Adele Why do you assume the age of the commenter? Bernie and AOC attract supporters from all age groups. I'm 59. And any of the candidates running would have been thrilled to have AOC's endorsement.
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@Rae
I would never assume that someone is young just because they are an AOC supporter. I do, however, assume that anyone who is an AOC supporter is, like AOC, not very bright.
Oh boy. She just doesn't know when to stop, does she.
Her incessant spewing of vitriol after she deservedly lost the 2016 election tells you everything you need to know about Hillary Clinton.
She was unelectable from the outset. She had nothing to offer. Yet she will never, ever admit that losing to Donald Trump was entirely of her own doing.
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HRC is showing a type of teenage jealousy toward Bernie that is mindboggling.
She didn't win so wants to torpedo him?
HE, unlike her, doesn't go hat in hand to Wall Street for money for his campaign. And who says everyone likes her? And is this a popularity contest?
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You're correct. Bernie prefers to get his money from his SuperPAC (Oops! I forgot he doesn't use that word!!) , you know National Nurses United, and the quiet supporters of the NRA for all 5 of his anti Brady Bill votes..
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Although Mrs. Clinton is entitled to her opinion, now is not the time to voice them. People already have an opinion of Sanders. Right now the focus should be on getting Republicans out of office and out of America altogether. We should be out in the streets protesting like we've never protested in the history of mankind. This grotesque abuse of power is so brazen and so palpable and it's leaving America to feel helpless and hopeless. We have to fight back harder and stop being so nice.
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Wait, what? I’m a Republican, but not a Trump supporter. Are you saying that because we differ on policy and probably overall ideology you want me “out of America altogether?” Really? Not exactly “liberal” in your thinking...
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I don't personally agree with Clinton's assertion, but is ironic to hear the cry from the left. The side that as recently as last week called the current front-runner "corrupt", the same side that has been bashing Warren for "lying" about her interaction with Sanders, suddenly is so concerned about Clinton saying no one likes Sanders.
This is the same side that takes every opportunity to go after their opponent's personal character using misleading information is suddenly offended.
We are still in a primary fight, Clinton has every right to express her opinion about a candidate, just like everyone else. There is no need for her to say that she would support Bernie should be win the nomination. Such comments now validates Sanders among her core supporters. All she is doing now is discouraging her supporters from falling in for Sanders.
To all Sanders supporters (and those pretending not to be), just get over it. If Sanders does win the nomination, Clinton and her supporters aren't the one calling each other "pathological liar".
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@Sam "This is the same side that takes every opportunity to go after their opponent's personal character"
Please provide examples. Not too many coming to mind right now. Thanks!
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Ms. Clinton stated that she “would do anything to elect a Democrat in 2020.” Evidently, she draws the line at endorsing or campaigning for Sanders. If Sanders is the nominee, she likes Trump just fine.
Just...go...away.,.please.
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@Paul
Sanders refuses to become a Dem but wants our nomination??
Just plain weird.
I wouldn't vote for a Socialist ever. I want to vote Dem.
The Socialists can vote for their own party.
Since they know they can't win that way they want to destroy our party.
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Sanders hasn't been a Democrat forever.
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Hillary, you lost because you failed to even go to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pensylvania. You take the middle class for granted.
The problem with Hillary is that she can't get over the fact that she lost in states that were always voted Democrat so she blames everyone except for herself.
I don't think her support would matter, rather her support would be poison for anyone receiving the same. So far not one Democrat candidate has even gone to a stage with her.
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I never liked Hillary and I have always liked Bernie. I guess that makes me a nobody.
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@Joey Green
Or a deplorable.
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From reading the comments here, it appears most of those who voted for Hillary in the 2016 general election had to immediately go home and take a shower. She may have won the popular vote, but that does not make her very popular.
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Clinton sounds like a sore loser who doesn't want to be lose again by Mr. Sanders potential victory. For the Democratic establishment to attack one of the Democratic frontrunners, who has a viable chance of defeating Trump, is inexcusable. Those who would stubbornly stick with this self-defeating behavior that could hurt the chances of a Democratic presidential candidate are truly self-serving and utterly indifferent to the future of the United States and all who live here.
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I think it’s about time Hillary Clinton realizes just how passe’ she has become.
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Bernie is very good for the republicans, as his hard left politics stop people wanting to vote democrat. There is no point putting forward a loser.
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@MaccaUS
But what's interesting is how centrist Dems (still) make a point about how 1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted for Trump in 2016 as a reason they'll never support Sanders. If Biden had that kind of crossover, it'd be spun as "he can win back the white working class."
He may be further left, but last time I checked, Sanders and Biden were the ones projected to beat Trump most soundly. Why pick on one of the front runners?
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Wow! Didn't Clinton learn anything from the 2016 election? Such as:
• Even if she's a Clinton, she is not entitled to be president.
• Even if she's a woman, she is not entitled to be president.
• Even if she's a favorite of the Wall St. Dem crowd, she is not entitled to be president.
Oh Hillary, let me count the way that you turn people off so they vote for you with a clothes pin on their nose or don't vote at all.
This election will be determined by turnout, pure and simple. Candidates who do not excite people are not going to do it. That mainly leaves Sanders and Warren.
Thank god HC is not running. Or is this supposed to be another DNC-rescue-us-from-Sanders-and-Warren-someone-please trial balloon?
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It's nice to see Secretary Senator First Lady Hillary Clinton robustly recovered from her nervous breakdown the night of Election Day 2016 and holding forth ever so candidly on the subject of her victim, Bernie Sanders. She didn't have anything to say then. On the plus side, Donald Trump has carried out much of her agenda more than Bernie ever could. This will certainly make it that much easier for her to campaign for Trump against the anathemic Sanders, who does not compromise in his opposition to all those policies that continue to make her and her husband and daughter wealthy people.
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I like Bernie. He understands that we are all in this together. He understands that life is invaluable, not something to be priced by an a health insurance company. I think he was present at the March on Washington, so he would get that progress comes from the bottom up, not from the top down. Hillary on the other hand is the opportunist. "Progressive" used to be a term for the liberal-minded too embarrassed to call themselves "Liberal." Now it is a term used by Republicrats to disguise the fact that they are in bed with the corporations and insurance companies. Hillary, please, please, please go away.
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He understands how to use politics to line his pockets through book deals. Other than that I don’t think he really believes we are all in this together - same goes for Warren and most likely anyone reaching for the Presidency.
These are not people out for the greater good, they are interested in themselves and whatever will make them appear to be favorable.
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I voted for Hillary, but at this point?
She really should just be a quiet back ground presence.
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I find it positively stunning, after months and months of pious rhetoric from Democrats across the spectrum about the need for party unity if we are to defeat Donald Trump in November, that any Democrat can defend such a divisive, ill-timed and horribly ill-advised comment by Hillary. Can anyone seriously argue that her comment advances the cause of party unity? By making such a comment at such a time, Hillary reveals herself to be, in her own way, as much of a narcissist as Donald Trump.
I said after 2016 that the aftermath worried me greatly, because of my party’s (Democrat’s) long history of learning exactly the wrong lessons from their electoral defeats. I hoped I was wrong about that. Sadly, it appears I was not.
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@Mark Kessinger
Yep, "unity" goes one way. If you're picking on the left, you're a brave truth-teller. If you mildly criticize a centrist, you're a poisonous ideologue.
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It was in the 2008 campaign that Hilary's likeability became an issue and Obama famously said "You're likeable enough." No. She isn't. This stuff after Bernie vigorously campaigned for her in 2016, is why I'm glad I didn't vote for her.
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I like Bernie. And I'm not alone.
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Shades of night are falling and I'm lonely
Standing on the corner feeling blue
Warren voters out for fun
Pass me one by one
Guess I'll wind up like I always do
With only
Me and my shadow
Strolling down the avenue
Me and my shadow
Not a soul to tell our troubles to
And when it's twelve o'clock
We climb the stair
We never knock
For Bernie's not there
Just me and my shadow
All alone and feeling blue
When the sun sets on the far horizon
And the parlor lamps begin to glow
Joe Biden and his voters
Put their slippers on
They're all set but we're still on the go
So lonely
Me and my shadow
Strolling down the avenue
Me and my shadow
Not a soul to tell our troubles to
And when it's twelve o'clock
We climb the stair
We never knock
For Bernie's not there
Just me and my shadow
All alone and feeling blue.
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If The Democrat Party refuses to unite, and enjoys this ongoing squabbling in plain view, reminiscent of the canceling of poor apprentices on a tacky show, then Americans should expect a second-term presidency for Mr. Trump.
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This has been's opinion at this time can only damage the Democrat's chances defeating Trump.
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Wow...I thought Trump was petty, vindictive, graceless and without class.
Nice job Hillary, you finally beat Trump at something.
Take your pieces of silver, put them into your pocketbook and disappear please. Your political acumen is disastrous; and divisive. Not what the party needs this moment.
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@Dobbys sock At her worst, Hillary's would still be better than what we have now...Take Care!
@Chuck
When I voted for her I thought/hoped the same; it gets harder and harder to believe thusly however. She's not making it easier either.
Take care...um...thank you; and your as well?!
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Hillary Clinton is no better than Donald Trump. Childish name calling. "Nobody likes you."
What is wrong with these aging baby boomers, who are reduced to sniveling little children. (Is it Facebook?)
Elizabeth Warren, who I generally like and respect, had better watch herself as well. "Bernie said I throw like a girl. But I pitched a no hitter."
Grow up, people!
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I'm *still* with her.
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So apparently Hillary Clinton, somebody the centrist #VoteBlueNoMatterWho crowd tends to idolize more often than not, is not actually #VoteBlueNoMatterWho after all. Let's focus on where she says, "Nobody likes him." I'm pretty sure the millions of people who have donated to the Sanders campaign, the million people who currently volunteer for the Sanders campaign, and Sanders' constituents in Vermont would highly disagree. "Nobody likes him" is code for, "My friends in elite and corporate circles don't like him." Bernie Sanders consistently polls as the most popular politician in the United States, while Clinton's approval rating since the 2016 election has either matched or been far worse than that of President Trump, rarely climbing above 40%. Hillary Clinton is still in denial of her failed campaign and is too salty to look in the mirror and reflect on who is most responsible for her loss. At this point, Clinton needs to realize that her era of American politics is finished and that the Democratic Party would be better off without her narcissistic whining.
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Sour grapes from the person who made a Trump presidency our reality. Does she still think she has a political career or any credibility left. I voted for her, but only because her heavy handedness at the DNC gave her the candidacy over a more electable Bernie Sanders.
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In as much as it is certainly lawful for U.S. citizens of any political stripe (and possibly green card holders; I leave that to election law attorneys) to donate online, Sanders boasting of his dollar haul is fatuous. Some, perhaps not a few, are surely GOP/Trump partisans eager to engage in what one hate radio bloviator deemed "Operation Chaos", last 2016 cycle.
Trump and his clique are salivating over Sanders in the race. Tell me outside of a college quad, or a hipster neighborhood, or the contrarian at the country store who among us is calling for "a revolution". The very phrase turns off or frightens many perfectly moderate voters. Real and substantial change and a return to decency, empathy and a steady hand, not the banner of "revolution" from a guy who abhors compromise.
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@Unworthy Servant
I'm sorry you're so scared. What scares me is candidates who will do little to affect climate change until it's too late, because big ideas are too scary for moderates. But to each their own.
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The fear is that Bernie, who is not a Democrat, insists on running as one, and will do a Ross Perot spoiler yet again.
He should run as a Republican and muddle the Trump ticket.
Bernie doesn't build coalitions. He is an angry entitled loner with a limited few good ideas vying for a job that depends on alliances and compromises.
Bernie is in denial of his health and the power of his personality to instill fear in regular people. HRC has a reason to be put off. I think she is perhaps a bit blunt but she is pointing to the obvious.
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@Anne
"Bernie doesn't build coalitions."
Neither does Hillary. And because of that, now we have Trump.
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@Anne
None of what you say, even if it was all true, gives a right to the pathetic loser HRC to put her finger on the scale - she stumbled in 2008 primaries and in 2016 general election and would have been not as bad as tRump, but still a disaster and a pathetic boomer
GenY, GenZ - push these people off the stage, please.
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@Anne Bernie has never done a "Ross Perot spoiler" - false information - and he wouldn't because it would destroy the Democratic Party's chance of winning.
That you suggest he run as a Republican indicates just how misinformed your comment is as to Bernie's politics and motivations.
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Sanders could have been more supportive but that is no excuse for her to not be the bigger woman and agree to support the democrats nominee regardless of who it is.
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It is one thing to say that Bernie is not well liked. Perhaps that is true. But to say that you would not support him--or nearly anyone else--against Trump is outrageous. I supported Hillary over Obama in 2008, I supported her as an intelligent Secretary of State, and I certainly supported her over Trump. With this position, she has just lost my support forever.
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Sanders could have defeated Trump in 2016 because of his clear record of opposing our endless wars abroad. Is it any surprise that the person who did everything possible to see that Sanders' wide support did not translate into a nomination is still trashing him instead of questioning her own foreign policy record, which is one of the reasons I and so many of my friends were not enthusiastic about her (though we voted for her, obviously).
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In the big picture, these kinds of statements, from someone who was the second least liked candidate, are burdening the task of electing a Democratic candidate to the breaking point. The minor side issues, he said, she said, need to be put aside for what they are; nothing.
The country, as we see every day, is on the brink of being a dictatorship. If Trump prevails, there will be four more years of bumbling foreign policy, four more years of erratic economic policy, the press and freedom of speech will be at risk, and the Constitution and the separation of powers will be virtually nullified.
The Democratic Party and the candidates need to focus on those issues. Lose the 'free stuff for all," stop the infighting and select a candidate soon.
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I admire Bernie Sanders b/c he is the one candidate who has consistently told voters what he believes in and why. Hillary Clinton is in no position to judge who likes who. I voted for her, and I think she got a raw deal. But like her? Nope. And who cares? This is not about who is the most liked -- it's about who has a sense of what our country needs to get back on track as a free and just society.
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There are alot of people that like Bernie and want to see him get the nomination.
They are called Republicans.
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I appreciate Clinton's honest perspective of events that were 3 years ago. She is expressing her views ... and her's only. Blessings to her and her family.
As a progressive, I agree with most of Bernie's platform (as well as Elizabeth's). I supported Bernie in 2016. I think what is most important at the moment in time is to clarify and solidify the policy platform which we as a nation need now. "Healing" is part of that platform.
I like this quote from Mother Theresa:
“Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.”
Let's take the first step today and amend the broken bridges from our past. Without this movement, it will not matter what candidate's platform prevails.
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@mike
And I like this quote from George Orwell :
"The one who controls the present, controls the past.
And the one who controls the past, controls the future."
With her ill-advised denigration of Senator Sanders, and her refusal to commit to supporting whoever the
Democratic nominee turns out to be, Hillary is still trying to control the future as per Orwell's formula.
Please cease and desist, Ms. Clinton.
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If Bernie Sanders does nothing more than what he has already accomplished by moving the Democratic Party back to its FDR roots and reshaping the political conversation toward progressive goals, he will go down as by far a more important and pivotal figure in American history than Hillary Clinton.
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Well said.
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I can't help but notice that much of the commentary here is focused on how awful Hilary Clinton is and not nearly so much on whether she actually said a true thing. You can think whatever you want about her - all indications are that she's not wrong.
Sanders is a populist demagogue who happens to be so deeply and authentically married to his very specific and particular policy proposals that he finds compromise on them utterly impossible. That, in turn, makes him impossible to work with. If he's not able to understand that he will accomplish none of his goals without giving up a lot of ground...well, just how is anybody supposed to get anything done with him on board?
I would liken Bernie to Ayn Rand - he's full of incendiary rhetoric that's good at motivating people (particularly young ones) toward an absolutist position while displaying no interest whatsoever in the realities of the process he would have to go through to build even the tiniest plank of his platform. The difference is that Rand never served in government, where she would have been utter misery to even share a room with.
These are things that Sanders and his supporters need to hear and understand, and Clinton is right to criticize the downright cultish atmosphere the man's supporters live in. At this point, he should just endorse Warren (who will accomplish literally the same things he would in two terms if we're being reasonable) and retire before his health finally gives out on him.
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@Brian Seiler Beautifully stated! Thank you for expressing what many of us high information voters had figured out four years ago.
What I don't understand is that Bernie has yet to become a registered Democrat. If he wants that party's nomination, you would think he would become a card carrying member. What if, by some chance he did get elected, would he reject the party at that point after all their efforts to support him if they do not become absolutists to his ideas?
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Agree. The Bernie Bros come out en force every time someone prints something negative about him.
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@Kate
The democratic party doesn't have real membership, it's just a lifestyle brand. Also saying "Bernie's not a democrat" is probably the best free advertising you could possibly give him. Many of us "bernie bros" love when you say that and hope you keep repeating that all throughout states like Michigan and Wisconsin where Democrats stabbed them in the back with NAFTA and told them 'learn to code losers.'
Also, when i think of Hillary's devotees, i think of that article, Hillary is more than a politician, she is light itself." Talk about cultlike.
Also why was Ghislane at Chelsea's wedding?
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Most of the comments here are highly critical of Ms. Clinton's remarks and her career more generally.
I cannot be more thrilled with what Secretary Clinton has said. For one, as a candidate for president in 2016, Clinton was severely chastened, every remark seemingly scripted. Now, she can be completely candid.
Bernie is a flagrant opportunist and by dragging out the Democratic primary well after his loss was sealed and giving a lukewarm endorsement to Clinton at the convention, he did a great disservice to this country. 25% percent of Bernie voters backed Trump, a right wing demagogue. This is so disheartening.
Bernie's legislative accomplishments are zero and his positions, quixotic. Being from Pennsylvania, it is so deeply distressing to see Bernie's nearly all-white supporters, from his monochromatic home state of Vermont, act like they have a clue about what it takes to govern a diverse coalition.
Vermont is no more similar to the United States than deep red Montana.
I hope Biden whips Bernie in the primary.
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@Mark
I hope anyone whips Bernie in the primary, though my choice is Warren.
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@Mark Actually, you got your numbers wrong. Only 12% of Sanders voters switched to Trump. 25% was the number of Clinton voters who switched to McCain after Obama won the democratic nomination over her.
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@Mark I think your assessment of Bernie Sanders supporters lacking diversity is way off. In California he has a diverse coalition of support and not just among young people. If Biden receives the Democratic nomination we will have a repeat of 2016 and Trump will win.
Biden fuels the same enthusiasm as Clinton: lukewarm at best.
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Democrats are slow to learn. Perhaps they can't wait to relive the excitement of 2016 all over again.
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She would be wise to sit this one out.
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Dear Hillary,
Please stop making public comments. Please stop generating press coverage. Please go away. We don't hear much from Bill anymore, maybe you should follow his lead. You lost the election, and I'm still furious. You are only giving those moderate Trump voters who voted for Obama (but who didn't really like Trump) more reason to stick with him in 2020.
Plus, hello, nobody liked you either. He won on hating you. I voted for you because I'm not going to not vote, but millions stayed home because they couldn't bear either you or Trump. So stop. There's nothing to salvage. You and your campaign performed so poorly, and left us to deal with the aftermath. Stop hurting our chances of beating Trump in 2020. Please fade out. Signed, Joe Public
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@MikeM Well said. Hillary please go away. You lost an election that was yours to win, because so many really didn’t like you. I was surprised at the depth of their antipathy. I voted for you, as you would have been a good president; but now, please go away.
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It is amazing to me that Clinton has the nerve to comment on the election at all after losing shamefully to a criminal buffoon whom virtually any other Democratic candidate (who did not put her or his faith into a logarithm) would have beaten. The arrogance is astonishing. She should be doing NOTHING but trying to support any and every possible democratic nominee.
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Hillary Clinton has a point there, Mr. Sanders took for ever to concede when Hillary won the Democratic nomination .
But I also fault Mrs. Clinton, she took for granted that she was going to win the election and never visited so many Midwest States.
if onle She visited OH , but She was busy raising funds.
And now we have trump who refuses to go away.
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Hillary,
In 2016 Democrats rallied. With every advantage going in, from super delegates to the Democratic party leadership and media's backing, you lost.
You were the candidate. It was your responsibility, along with your campaign, to reach out and articulate your policy positions in a way that would inspire people towards moving the country forward. Increasingly, you devoted time to repeating Trump's well-known misdeeds, ad nauseum. rather than offering your clear stances on the issues important to the average citizens.
You took people, Democrats in particular, for granted.
The Hollywood Reporter interview promises more of the same.; finding fault everywhere but in your own mistakes and miscalculations. I think an honest, good faith display of accountability would be heartening for all voters to see from you.
Party leaders need to "step back" as well.
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Hillary Clinton does not like Mr Sanders -- well what a surprise. After the Clinton political machine took over the DNC and blocked a fair primary contest between them, she discouraged a young (mostly female) generation of Democrats from voting, contributing to her election loss to President Trump.
Now she emerges from the political grave just before the Iowa contest Mr Sanders is leading to say "no one likes him" like a gossipy high school girl dividing Democrats rather than uniting them. No leadership material there. Thank god the American people saw through her in the down to earth heartland or we would be at war in the middle east again and be still locked in recession at home.
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I'm starting to regret my vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. If Bernie Sanders is the candidate running against Trump in 2020---I wonder who Hillary will vote for ?
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Upsetting to hear Hillary Clinton disparage Sanders. Does she not realize this may turn Sanders supporters off voting for any candidate Clinton backs (other than Sanders) in the general election? One doesn't win people over by insulting them. Anyone who took Psychology 101 knows that. Whether she believes it is true or not is immaterial. It's just common sense.
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This is how the Democrats loose the election.
Clinton sounds like a bitter old woman, who obviously *still* has not accepted the blame for her election loss, which was ultimately her own fault, no one else's.
According to many of the other comments posted elsewhere, Sanders gave her more support in 2016 than she gave Barak Obama, so what are she and her supporters complaining about?
I think Clinton is simply part of the Democratic establishment - you know, the same one who picked her in 2016 and lost an unlooseable election - who want to stick the knife in Sanders, again. Just so they can put forward another candidate who is so compromised by ties to corporate America that they will also loose.
Also, I question whether "Bernie Bros" is simply a myth made up by the Clintonites. Who says Sanders supporters are more dominated by males than any of the other candidates? my understanding is that more young women supported Sanders than Clinton in 2016. Clinton should be asking herself why that was, rather than infecting the 2020 election with her bitterness.
Maybe we are better off with Trump in 2020 (I was happy to vote for Hillary in 2016, BTW).
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@A. Nonymous Please, reconsider. In terms of the environment, we are not better off with Trump in 2020...just like at the environmental regulations he has undone, the undermining of any action towards mitigating climate change....4 more years of this and we will have a lot less of an environment to protect - and we cannot live without a healthy ecosystem...just look at Australia...
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@A. Nonymous You know, I take it all back. Hillary's bitter criticism of Bernie will probably win him more supporters than ever. Thanks, Hillary!
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The bigger question is who is wasting time producing this documentary series and who are watching documentary on her? Don't these people know that they can watch reruns of 30 Rock?
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Hillary Clinton's campaign slogan was, "I'm with her."
It should have been, "She's with us."
That pretty much says everything you need to know about her.
(And yes, I voted for her in Nov 2016.)
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Hillary is on a roll lately. She also defended Harvey Weinstein’s actions. To think y’all wanted her as president🤮. The Democrat Party isn’t going to survive this primary without fracturing. What’s funny is Trump will win 2020 regardless.
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It's hard when a woman speaks truth to power isn't it?
She doesn't need to like Bernie and neither do any of us. I couldn't tolerate a moment of listening to this man pontificate, hperventilate and punctuate each sentence w. a finger exclamation point. There were plenty of Berniecrats in the good old liberal Pacific Northwest of the US who mouthed Bernie but voted Hillary. To his credit he has carried a mantle of social and economic change that we sorely need but he is not the person to execute the plan.
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@Lillies And by driving a wedge even deeper through Bernie's campaign helps the Democratic Party how? Just wait. If Bernie's not the nominee, the Democrats still need his supporters. How does this divisiveness help? Trump in 2020. Herding cats is easier than herding Democrats.
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@Lillies HRC speaking "truth to power"? She was First Lady for 2 terms, a Senator, and Secretary of State.
The Clinton machine got rid of almost anyone who could run against her, including Biden.
Sanders was not beholden to or imtimidated to the Clintons and won 43% of the primary vote. That's who was telling the truth to power.
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Well, I can say without reservations that I like Bernie a good deal more than I ever liked Hillary. Still, I voted for her in 2016-there was not much of a choice. I wish Bernie had been on the ticket.
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I don’t like Mrs. Clinton much personally, but when she was the nominee, I unabashedly proclaimed “I’m with her,” and voted for her. If Bernie gets the nomination against Trump, I will unabashedly proclaim “I’m with him,” and vote for him, even though I don’t like him much personally. I hope Mrs. Clinton does the same.
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Hillary can be so small minded and graceless. I'm a lifelong Democrat (who first voted for the magnificent George McGovern) but it was easy to see that she was running a campaign low on energy, spirit, ideas, and sense of purpose. During the campaign, Bernie made her a somewhat better candidate by forcing her to think through her dated ideas. Her treatment of Bernie, then and now, reinforces my worst thoughts about her.
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I’m not a big fan of Hilary’s but she’s been right about a surprising number of things. I’m going to assume she is also right about this.
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@MorningInSeattle
She wasn't right about her own electability. Why would you think she's right about anyone else's?
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This is the last thing the Democrats need--a prominent Democrat going out of her way to suggest that she might not support Bernie if he wins the nomination. If she is not going to support him if he is the nominee, who is she going to support? Donald?
Truth is she will likely give Bernie some kind of endorsement, if only feeble, should he become the nominee. However, she has just handed the Republicans attack ad material. I can see the Republican ads now, "even Hillary Clinton says....nobody likes Bernie" and he has never gotten anything done. She will not be able to unsay these comments or walk them back even if she wants to. And that will ensure that any endorsement she does provide down the line will be meaningless.
Earth to Clinton Family: Please just sail off into the sunset. Your day is done. Please just go.
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Hillary can be so small minded and graceless. I'm a lifelong Democrat (who first voted for the magnificent George McGovern) but it was easy to see that she was running a campaign low on energy, spirit, ideas, and sense of purpose. During the campaign, Bernie made her a somewhat better candidate by forcing her to think through her dated ideas. Her treatment of Bernie, then and now, reinforces my worst thoughts about her.
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Our "liberal" media spent three years demonising Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour party - he was even accused of being racist. It worked. Boris Johnson a right wing friend of Donald Trump was elected and achieved an overall majority in parliament. Now the US "liberal" media are using the same method to destroy the chances of Bernie Sanders - the most progressive of all the presidential contenders. Guess who will win the the 2020 election!
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I think Hillary is still upset by her loss. But these current comments and action from her are pretty small and petty. And thats how i feel she and her cohorts were through her entire campaign. Small and petty.
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@Shell
Clinton's comments are not small and petty.
They are indicators that the Democratic party once again wants no part of Bernie Sanders.
They are willing to let Donald Trump have 4 more years. Their wealth and power will not suffer.
Our political parties and our representatives in government serve themselves, their friends and families, and the interest groups that favor them because these interests groups have a lot to gain.
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No wonder she lost.
Meanwhile back in the US Senate guess who has the highest favorability rating of any Senator ?
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Clinton is the hanger-on who rode her husband's coattails to the White House and it gave her just enough momentum to become a Senator. Sanders is the guy with the courage of his convictions; extremely rare these days. Would he make a good President? Who knows. He certainly would be better than Hillary. And he has a far better personality. Hers was squeezed dry at about the age of 12.
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@Tommyboy
Yep. Here it is. I hope all the folks in this comment section claiming that misogynistic Bernie Bros are a myth are reading this comment.
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@Marta
Look up "Confirmation Bias" then look up "Dunning-Kruger Effect."
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Reality Check Mrs Clinton been president we wont be in mees present adminstration.Diffently would vote for her she should run only one could bring back jobs needed to Make Made In USA best agun.Little blue tags use to be made on everything. Americans need jobs pay living wage not empty promises by actors who are just in it for money career politicans.
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I find the front page real estate this article was granted questionable at best and at worst, click bait-y. I'm not sure my politics entirely align with Sanders at this time, though my core values and ideals certainly do. I can't be bothered to afford so much as a passing thought to the Clinton Dynasty as we near the end of the first Trump term, be it their actions, opinions, or "nearby sources."
This is the detached and largely irrelevant commentary that draws in the college-educated (largely white) political hobbyists to conversation, and provides no call to action. Let's leave this kind of establishment bantor where we left Debbie Wasserman Schultz: in 2016.
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Wow, considering that she's soooooo much less likable than Bernie, it's kind of crazy that she thinks she's entitled to judge Bernie's likability.
I'll just speak for myself: I like Bernie. I do not like Hillary.
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No matter the circumstances of the election HRC lost to the most vulnerable Republican candidate in modern times.
She ran poor campaign against Obama and an equally if not poorer campaign against Trump.
No matter what Bernie, Putin or Comey did there was no excuse for losing to Trump.
And it is a fact Obama and the DNC did put their thumbs on the scale to favor HRC.
She is becoming more and more an embarrassment to herself. Bitterness and self delusion are not flattering.
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Hmm. Let's see. What exactly has Hillary achieved with these comments? Seems to me that either way - Bernie or someone else the nominee - that persons chances of beating Trump will be harmed by these and similar attacks. As she should know, even a small number of no shows in tight races can decide the outcome.
She did not seem to mind his support when he campaigned for her.
I do not want him to be the nominee but if he is, I will be behind him.
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Alternative title for article:
Hillary Clinton unwittingly campaigns for Bernie Sanders
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The queen of bad timing strikes again.
Hillary, your husband was a pretty decent president (this from a conservative). Please just retire in peace. You're not helping your party or the country.
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I humbly suggest that Hillary Clinton should find something useful to do with the rest of her life.
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@View from the street
Yes. Maybe mountain-climbing, base-jumping, or motorcycle racing. Something dangerous.
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