Indian General Talks of ‘Deradicalization Camps’ for Kashmiris

Modi's India is becoming a horrible place to live in with the passing of each day. In the name of destroying Muslims, Modi is in fact crushing the very basis of Hinduism itself. Hinduism is basically a tolerant religion that has no room for hatred for other religions and beliefs. Ironically, the Hindu religious heads like the Shankaracharya and others are silently watching the damage being done to the oldest religion of the world. They must wake up before it is too late.

All Kashmiris want is a say in their future. If they decide to be independent after plebiscite ( for which there are UN resolutions), what is India’s problem with that? World was told that there will be economic development after abrogation of Article370. I would like to ask Indian Ambassador to US, Mr. Shringla how that is going? Kashmiris have suffered losses upwards of a billion dollars since August 5th, have had no internet since then, and even opposition leaders from India are not allowed to visit because Kashmiris have been humiliated, are angry and depressed. India is heading towards fascism fast and this should worry everyone.

Modi and his elk are no different than Putin, Trump, Edrogen, MBS, Sissi , they are all trading in the worst of humanity for power. They represent the beginning of the downfall of the human race. Divisions, hatred, violence and death. They are no leaders. As for Modi’s religious journey of violence is very evident, his demons came out, he represents the worst of India.

Totalitarian Fascism at its finest. With a crumbling economy, a banking crisis, incredible levels of pollution and contamination, rampant government corruption at state and national levels, poor infrastructure, caste system issues, regular water and fuel shortages, and lord knows what else, the answer to India’s problems are clearly that of Islam. And that starts with Kashmir.

Indian army officers widely acknowledge that this general is nothing but a sycophant and an incompetent officer. He led India into a foolish cross border raid resulting in a downed pilot and nothing else to show for. His poor leadership has resulted in many deaths of Indian soldiers. It is against the code of the Indian Army for them to indulge in politics. But these days fascism is on the rise in India and he is the beneficiary. My father served in the Indian Army and fought in two wars and he would have been ashamed. He would have resigned his commission rather than stay under this general.

I like reporting from both Jeffrey and Kai. And I know they have been here in India for while. I am also in India for my 4th consecutive winter. All of India's military leaders say all kinds of things which they have no business talking about. Both Jefferey and Kai have seen their shares of these outrages. This same general had also recently called protesters against the new citizenship amendment names. It raised eyebrows because it mimicked what the prime minister was saying. The very next day - he "clarified." It will be deja vue all over again. Not related but how Indian politicians say the most outrageous things. A senior government minister whose family lives in America - recently declared that "Mr. Bezos was doing good only for himself by investing $1 billion - and nothing to do with India." And this man is a minister in charge of attracting foreign investors. The next day, he "clarified." This caught my attention: "...under the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, just about anything — however unbelievable just a few years ago — is possible..." If judging by protests to the latest citizenship amendment or even Kashmir changes - the prime minister himself will be surprised. If current economy downturn continues - he will be history before even he knows it. Finally, let's be clear that all Kashmiris are Indians - they have no business identifying themselves as just Kashmiris. No other residents of any Indian states get that unique identification.

Redicalization camp is ironic because Modi's government is the single biggest radicalization plan implemented by Hindu India. It is time for some deep introspection for the large number of Hindus supporting this as to what they have become.

In a democratic country like India with diversity of religions, caste and languages, authoritative way like this is not possible. The present Government of India being run by BJP party is an offspring of a non democratic and purely Hindu organization. India is not a homogeneous country but an empire having hundreds of languages, cultures and religions. There is no doubt that majority of Muslims in Kashmir want either independence or to merge with Pakistan. Ideology of political Islam is a big problem for the world even for Islamic countries. For this reason, even most of the Muslim countries of world are not democratic but under dictatorship or monarchy. India and its present government in their own interest should open schools imparting liberal education in Kashmir instead of deradicalization camps which will ruin their fair image of a secular and democratic country in the eyes world.

At a sensitive time such as this, now is hardly the time to talk about deradicalisation camps, if ever. If gaining people’s trust is the objective, then outreach programmes on a voluntary basis are the answer not camps. Known hardcore cases should be left to be dealt with by the law. Trust, love, affection, patriotism,cannot be manufactured in artificial environments. They need to be nursed by the nectar of freedom and respect. Captive environments if anything produce and exacerbate resistance, which is the last thing we want. The General maybe needs to be sent to a training CAMP for some home truths on human psychology.

Systematic ethnic cleansing.. shame on Modi and his supporters, what a weak leader.

India is moving in a fascist direction fast. Conscientious Indians must speak out against such radical notions. Shame on the Indian military and government. “World’s largest democracy”... such a refrain has become a joke. I am for the oppressed people of the world and Kashmir has suffered brutally from the criminal Indian occupation. Kashmir must and will be free. Kashmir must be for the Kashmiris. Not india. Not Pakistan. Not China. Long live the human right of self-determination.

General Rawat is spot on. If there are terrorist training camps then there have to be terrorist re-training camps. Taking a soft line on radicalization, mass immigration, demographic inversion, as Europe is doing, is the real path to extinguishing democracy as the people grow cynical about democracy’s inability to defend them and their cultures. I notice that China hasn’t suffered terrorist attacks as soon as the camps and other restrictions on Islam got underway.

Right step in the right direction- terrorism must be stopped - period. The mullah jihadists have created a culture of hatred and fear. No room for this in any democracy- period.

People naturally feel that the belief system they grew up with is the best and final arrangement. Yet history is littered with fallen belief systems that also thought themselves the final and most logical. The crucial parameter of any society is the ability to survive and thrive in a chaotic world. Unfortunately democracies, especially those in Europe, are not looking healthy as their lopsided and obsolete human rights dogma runs into the brick wall of Islamic mass immigration and radicalization. I’d say China’s approach will be proved right and Europe as well as India will have to come to terms with it, or join the long list of systems that failed because they wouldn’t adapt.

Gen. Rawat's arresting (no pun intended) photo channels the Indian government's affection for the ghosts of our own Confederacy. That has not ended well for us either.

Naturally, that's what fascist regimes do.

I would be very, very surprised if this was anything more than the General bumbling his words. As should be clear to anyone watching recent events, there are limits to how far any government in India can go. For all its flaws, Indian society has enough safeguards to prevent the kinds of outrages like those in China with the Uighurs. Despite excesses in recent months, its government is still constrained by Indian democracy and is unlikely to ever attempt anything similar. So i would bet on this being the NYT reading between the lines. I do take issue with the comment on radicalization in the Kashmir valley. Recent years have seen religious (not just political) radicalization among some of its young men. This is no different from many other places in the world and many among them have gone on to join violent extremist groups. These groups have often recruited boys as young as 14 and handed them weapons of war resulting in their death. This is no different from recruitment of child soldiers. Celebration of radicalized individuals and a cult of death has also grown around them in recent years. There is a need for de-radicalization programs working with communities to ensure these groups do not prey on the young.

Al Jazeera had a story a couple of weeks ago on the building of these camps, interviewing one of the workers. And if anyone had read the recent New Yorker piece on the rise of Hindu nationalism and its very violent past - Modi included - this NYT article comes as no surprise. Dark days ahead sadly.

Another "plus" for the so called Indian "democracy" They are becoming as, if not more oppressive than when they were as a United Kingdom colony.

I really hope these comments were taken out of context and that the General didn’t actually intend what they mean. If he did then this gives us an insight into the thoughts of Indians military leadership regarding Kashmir. Although I don’t think we need to worry about there being camps like this in the near future. The general fortunately does not have any say in India’s politics. Prime minister Modi might be a Hindu nationalist zealot but he is not stupid. He knows that majority of Indians will never support anything close to that.

Horrifying how easily a democracy can come apart.