Impeach Trump for Racism?

Democrats are no more interested in truth than any other party. If they were, trump would not be in his dictatorial position, happily elected overwhelmingly by his bass.

Too many Americans seem to have forgotten that the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments are central to the constitution of this country. Millions struggled to win them. Hundreds of thousands died for them. And now we are told that a president who denies equal protection and due process and who has repeatedly incited terrorism against American citizens has not committed impeachworthy acts? For shame. long live John Brown. Long live Abraham Lincoln. Long live Martin Luther King. Remember America's martyrs for democracy and liberty. Impeach Trump.

It is so interesting seeing the range of opinions to the ongoing impeachment process. From "phooey" to a broadened and additive list from anti-trumpers as to his continuous list or normative, political and moral offenses. Here's the point: Nancy Pelosi has reconfigured the impeachable offenses to abusing his power (for personal gain) and impeding the HOUSE Impeachment trial. Understand how easily she redefined to 2 specific behavioral actions of Donald A. Trump. The House Speaker is calculated to encompass moderates and independents of all shades; that IF Trump runs again, he will have already been convicted in the House of obstructing a legal House inquiry for personal gain. To me, Trump needs to provide his tax records and much of the President's self-enrichment dealings will be laid bare.

I've seen many columns questioning the decision to limit the scope of the impeachment. I can guarantee that if the House had issued a broader range of articles of impeachment we would now be seeing just as many articles questioning that decision and saying that they should have maintained a narrower focus. The truth is that either way the end result is likely to be the same so everyone should just relax and trust Nancy Pelosi on this. She has shown time and time again that she has a better understanding of what's going on and what the possibilities are than just about anyone else.

Why not add that he didn't tip his mailman during the Holidays, didn't give up his seat to an old lady, cheated on his Math tests in the first grade? In other words blame him for everything wrong in the World But when the S&P crosses 3500 be careful or else all the 401K Millionaires will come looking for you in order to make a citizen's arrest for trying to tip the economic apple cart.

Spencer: Praise God! It is the second time that I have the opportunity to read this young journalist and I am fascinated by his intelligence, courage and total understanding of the political and human world in our country. (You) and Michelle Goldberg, next to the brilliant and prolific David Leonadt; they are by far the clean face, the inquiring eyes, the solid and brave verb in the New York Times. From humble and vicarious intellect and position in the American world, I congratulate you. With you and journalists as you discover how much I was missing to find what is missing and what is left over (if there is anything left over) in the accusative Trump presumption and, also relive the hope of not seeing him destroy this nation for a longer period. How far you are from other columnists of your same newspaper.

unfortunately Trump's racism wouldn't be considered a high crime or misdemeanor by his supporters

Trump is being impeached because he violated his oath of office. The rest of the administration ought to be impeached as well. All of them have violated their oaths of office. To them this is merely a vacation from their real jobs: increasing their wealth by millions each month. Trump is clearly unsuited for any office involving accountability, responsibility, integrity, or making a good deal. He is a loudmouth. He is what the Europeans call an ugly American. If Americans learn nothing else from his impeachment they will learn this: what Trump has done is not what this country needs or expects from its elected officials. If we pay attention we might learn what is expected from a president as laid out by our country's founders. Let's see the Supreme Court conservatives and the originalists argue against committing high crimes and misdemeanors while in office because the president is a Republican. It ought to be very interesting.

Trump earned impeachment the day he stepped into the office for all of the racist and sexist things he did on his way into the office. It makes sense that the Dems are focusing on the Ukraine scandal because they are hoping that the case is clear to all Americans. The problem is that millions don't understand the Constitution so they don't see Trump's behavior as wrong. Thus, the whole impeachment process is lost on millions of Americans. Does that mean that the House should have impeached long ago? Yep. No matter when it happens, it just needs to happen to show the world that there are Congressmen and women that believe in the rule of law.

One would think impeaching Trump for racism could be as simple as playing a reel starring Trump making clearly audible racists statements (i.e., 2+2=4 logic); however, I'd wager good money that the very same Republicans who are twisting like rubber in whichever direction necessary to form a defense for Trump's many transgressions, would be equally defensive towards a claim of racism. This country will not survive to see its 300th year anniversary if the Republican Party cult isn't exorcised of its demons while there's still time to get the jump on whatever emanates from its heartless soul.

Unfortunately, a good number of the odious things about Trump are not impeachable offenses. The Ukraine issue is a clear cut violation of the constitution and is thus impeachable. However, if the intent is to find him unfit for office under the clauses of the 25th amendment then one can open up the floodgates on Trump. He is a walking, talking and living example of a person who is patently unfit for any type of office let alone that of the president.

There are two reasons to impeach Trump. One is simply to end his presidency as soon as possible, before he does more damage to the country. Trump is an illegitimate president, his electoral college win is questionable at best. Despite what Barr keeps saying, we know that Russian hackers influenced the 2016 election process in favor of Trump, and Trump's campaign welcomed the interference. Now we see that Trump inviting foreign interference in elections was not a one-time thing. Narrow articles of impeachment would demonstrate that foreign campaign meddling and interference is unacceptable. Two is to demonstrate to voters, parties and history that we must have higher standards for presidents. Trump is entirely unqualified for office. He rejects the expert advice of military leaders, foreign service officers and scientists. He is a racist. He has likely committed tax evasion, money laundering and bank fraud (multiple times). He is a divisive bully, despised by more than half the country for the entire term of his presidency. He has no understanding of history, and sneers at the rule of law. Broad articles of impeachment would demonstrate the many, many ways in which Trump is unfit, and establish this higher standard for office.

I am satisfied, not happy, with the two counts of Impeachment of Trump, although he has demonstrated his animosity toward preserving our riches for the public heritage, because he has shown a vengeance against the poor, the immigrants seeking shelter, and his clandestine, clownish sychophantic adoration of Putin's regime. Perhaps he fancies himself an oligarch, leveraged as he is. He is a taker, not a giver.

It would be hard (back when it came out and now) to make the Mueller report relevant regarding impeachment, after Barr's assessment and it's treatment by the media and that president of mine.

Trump has indeed brought black and latino unemployment to their all-time historic low. Nothing helps people more than the dignity of work. Also, the lowest wages are rising at the fastest rate, twice as fast as high ones.And all, much faster than under Obama. Trump fully deserves, and let us hope that he will get, a sizable prt of the minority vote. More than in 2016, when he got it with the words "what do you have to lose?".

Cooperating with Trump seems schizophrenic. And it’s not only on the Trade Deal the Dems are giving the orange man what he wants. It’s disturbing and ultimately damaging. No agreement made with him will survive if he decides to throw it over. Have they not learned? Trading their souls for his promise is insanity.

Trump is widely and justifiably regarded by a majority of Americans as a pathological liar, a molester of women, a tax cheat, a draft dodger, a stooge of Putin and a serious mental case, besides which matters the Ukraine affair pales into insignificance in the minds of most Americans. It is already a foregone conclusion that McConnell and his Republican accomplices will acquit him of all charges relating to Ukraine. The best course for the Democrats would be to throw a kitchen sink full of charges up against Trump's Mexican Wall to see which of them, if any, can be made to stick. My first witnesses against Trump would be Stormy Daniels and the other 20+ women Trump has promised to sue for lying about him. I'd like to see Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz go up against them. They would make mincemeat of them. After which, Democrats could summon up a host of other witnesses with first-hand knowledge of his other crimes and misdemeanors including Trump University, his charitable giving, his income from hotels and golf courses in violation of the Emoluments Clause and his reckless handling of our military and foreign affairs. Indeed, while the Democrats are at it, let them give us a detailed account of his whole sordid life. Then let us leave decent, patriotic Americans to decide in November 2020 how best to restore sanity to this country.

The Congress should stick to its knitting. On another front.....An excellent case can be made that Trump should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity at the World Court at The Hague. The brutality against migrants and children, especially, at the southern border deserves justice.

We are in unprecedented territory. Nobody even knows whether impeaching the president will help or hurt his reelection chances. As for whether or not to impeach at all, Pelosi is right. We have no choice. If the Ukraine scheme stands, we will not have a free and fair election in 2020. If the Ukraine scheme stands, he will be free to extort other countries to interfere also. (As for whether or not to impeach Trump for racism, we can begin by first please calling it what it really is: white supremacy. Trump Republican bigotry is informing and influencing actual rules, laws, policy. White supremacists and neo-Nazis have been welcomed into the Trump Republican party. This newspaper reported that a shocking number of Trump Republican voters were in favor of white supremacist groups like the Proud Boys. The Trump Republican party and the Trump base wish to preserve and augment the unmerited entitlements, prerogatives and dominance of white conservative people.)

I could not have foreseen the day when I would see the old grey lady as an ideological propaganda sheet, but that day has arrived. Not only is the headline of this article pointlessly provocative and barely relevant to the article it heads, but there has been a growing preponderance of articles chosen of late by the editors for the OpEd page of the New York Times that seem as if written by angry college students, bathed in the resentments of identity politics and who stayed up much too late last night to write thoughtfully and reflectively the next morning. This is a great disappointment to me as a former admirer of the NYT and a reader for more than half a century. Key points to be made to the writer of that headline: 1) Racism is not an impeachable offense. Neither is bigotry. If you don't want a racist bigot for President, don't vote for one! 2) The same thing goes for policies you don't like. If you don't like a politician's policies, vote for someone else with whom you agree on more! 3) The only legitimate reason to impeach a President is the corruption of governance, "high crimes and misdemeanors," to quote the Constitution. Our current president has provided more than ample evidence of these, and as proven by that evidence, suggest his removal from office is necessary to protect the rule of law. 4) Donald Trump's policies and personality are beside the point, and Democrats discredit themselves every single time they argue for his removal on these grounds!

At the NYT, everything is about "racism", which has become a schoolyard epithet applicable to anything. There are lots of things that Trump has done wrong, but this isn't one of them, nor is bigotry a "high crime or misdemeanor".

The most important article is obstruction of Congress. I was, however, surprised that obstruction of justice was not included. Whatever the conclusion of the Mueller report, it is clear that Trump has refused to cooperate with lawful demands from Congress. For this rather than his actions vis-a-vis Ukraine, this President must be impeached. If any of us had defied Congress we would already have been jailed.

I can see both sides of the impeachment debate and whether it should be narrow or broad. I would love to see ever single instance of impeachable offenses laid bare for the world to see, but doing so would push the House into drafting articles well into next year and the Senate trial would continue throughout the election. This is a double-edge sword. As it would surely continue to demonstrate trump’s criminal activity throughout his entire presidency, nearly something else every week, it would also draw too many people away from focusing upon the upcoming election and take away from those Democrat’s candidates who are running, something that could easily backfire on Democrat’s and cause them to lose the election. No matter how many instances of impeachable offenses the House puts in front of the people of our country, the Senate will never vote for removal. Therefore, I think it is best to play it safe and stay narrow and focused on the Ukraine scandal, because either way the Senate will never convict and remove. We are better off beating him at the polling booth and letting the State Attorney’s General prosecute trump on his many felonious crimes throughout his presidency and the years before. Too be honest, I would rather see him dying in prison like the criminal he is than just be impeached and forgotten.

Unfortunately, attention spans have grown shorter in the life of TV, and Trump emphasizes distraction, so Democrats could not wait, and need to present a narrow focus. As Rep. Schiff stated, it's all clear. Trump is still betraying the country; we're watching it daily. The Republicans latest ploy (straight out of Trump's playbook) is turning the Bully into a Victim. I do hope we hold them accountable when time comes.

Remember that Al Capone was finally put away for tax evasion. There are so many grievous "high crimes and misdemeanors" by Trump and his minions that have occurred, and continue to do so, that the entire list would be overwhelming. Sen. James Risch, one of the two Republican Senators from Idaho, just sent a letter announcing his re-election campaign. There is no way I would ever vote for a Republican Trump supporter.

In the end, it won't matter much to Trump and his base. The House will most likely vote for impeachment. The Senate will most likely vote for acquittal. Please understand I do support impeachment. But I don't think it will not change voters minds in this this polarized Nation. JMHO YMMV.

The Democrats, in ignoring the Mueller report, have a messaging problem. They say they’re impeaching because it’s the right thing to do, politics be darned and “no one is above the law.” Yet they allow Trump to skate on obstruction of justice which, last time I looked, is also against the law. Why? Because they have vulnerable members who may survive charges related to Ukraine but not obstruction. I understand the political calculus but it’s disingenuous to allow Trump to escape accountability for obstruction of justice if he is indeed subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

In my view, Trump’s impeachable offenses began on day one of his presidency, and have continued to this day. But not everybody has the same perspective. The Mueller report laid out a roadmap for impeachment on grounds of Obstruction of Justice. But that would require parsing highly technical legal language. Many Democrats, especially those in swing districts, chose to wait. Finally, the Ukraine scandal broke and forced the Democratic caucus to take the crucial step of impeaching the President. At this point, it might seem appealing to include OoJ charges from the Mueller report. But doing so invites Republicans to ask why Democrats didn’t launch an impeachment inquiry when Mueller’s findings were first revealed. So here we are. Trump is guilty of much more than Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress regarding the Ukraine affair. But past decisions, however well motivated, force Democrats to follow a narrow path. I hope for all of our sakes they are successful.

The only ethical thing to do is to maximize the number of Articles of Impeachment. There are so many glaring examples of malfeasance that are not included in the two being considered that the Democrats are in effect saying what this criminal president did in those cases is OK. The Democrats are making a huge mistake.

The Times editorial board is right on this one. People are tired of the impeachment thing already, & the Repubs are experts on dragging it out without any help from the Dems. That was why Trump's people refused to testify. A court might conceivably force them to testify, but court proceedings tend to be very slow - & that's the point. Also the illegality of Trump's dealings with the Ukraine are not abstruse. Most people can understand them. Trump supporters simply don't care - he's their leader, right or wrong. Drawing the impeachment process out would lose Dems, not gain Repubs.

As a prosecutor, I can tell you that, beyond all doubt, the fact that impeachment strategy is widely debated does not bode well at all. My ten year old tells me that impeachment and a criminal case are different things. And I tell him that, in many ways they are the same. And in both, there is nothing more important than the bottom line. The purpose of both criminal charges and impeachment is to make an accusation that sticks--that is, one that is so overwhelming that only outliers contest guilt. Whatever the charges, the evidence must be so convincing that all those who dispute guilt or responsibilitylook away when making their arguments. Weighty excuses, on the one hand, or the appeal to high mindedness, on the other hand, don't change a thing. In the end, the facts carry the day. And for all the posturing, common sense dictates whether the prisoner is released or hanged. If there is endless debate about what to charge and how to charge it, that's a sign that the facts are too weak to win the case on heir own. No matter how you dress up insufficient or shaky facts, the charges will not stick.

The New York Times is going down the tubes. Impeach a President for 'racism'? How about for Democratism or Republicanism?

President Trump could easily be accused of misogyny from his 2016 statement in the Billy Bush video about grabbing women by their genitalia, of anti-Semitism and racism for his “very fine people on both sides” assessment of the Neo-Nazi demonstrations at Charlottesville in August 2017, and a combination of many things for referring to certain countries as "s...hole" countries. Unfortunately, in our society, if one is charged with everything, he is likely to be convicted of nothing.

No, impeach him for treason, even worse. Today he had a meeting with the Russian foreign minister Zavrov a day after a meeting which we didn’t attend, between Ukraine and Russia. Slap at Ukraine. Last time he met with Zavrov he kept US press out and let Russian in. And it turns out he gave them highly classified info that required an emergency extrication of a CIA spy so highly placed that he had access to Putin’s desk. And confirmed to CIA that Putin directed the election interference personal. What does Russia have on him? He’s clearly a Russian asset.

The last time I read The Constitution of The United States, I didn’t see anything about impeaching a President for hurting people’s feelings. Nor was there anything about impeachment for making people angry. Or insulting people. There wasn’t even anything about impeachment for being a nasty person. There WERE definitions of the specific types of crimes that merited impeachment and conviction. Those are the issues that should be raised.

Unfortunately it does not matter what the charges are, Republican Senators will ignore of them and ensure that he remains in power, hopefully until the majority of people in the U.S. comes to their senses and actually votes and thus gets him out of the office.

That sad reality of the impeachment proceedings is that it’s all a rehash of Trump’s Worst Hits - it’s just too much to process but in some ways it’s a walk down memory lane. Keeping it simple with a few articles of impeachment may be the best way to get the most meaningful results.

"Mr. Green introduced articles of impeachment against the president in July after he told four congresswomen of color to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came”; the articles were tabled.)" Much as I agree with Mr. Green's impulses, none of the things he has cited as impeachable are actually impeachable but rather just Trump's outrageous behavior in the areas of race, bigotry, immigration etc, etc, etc. Green first introduced his impeachment articles a few months after Trump's inauguration, which has given the Repubs the gift of claiming that the Dems have been trying to impeach Trump from the start, even though Green's original articles were tabled by a vote of 364 to 58 which of course included legions of Dems voting against him. Similarly, Maxine Waters' longstanding calls for impeaching Trump because of the same behaviors are not grounds for impeachment.

Among the most damaging consequences of the Trump presidency is the fact that it has reduced even once-respectable institutions like the New York Times to clickbait fodder. Can anybody explain to me how this headline is in any way representative of the content of this piece? Every time I check the NYT home page, I edge closer and closer to cancelling my subscription.

Did the person who wrote the title (who I assume is not Bokat-Lindell) even bother to read the article? "Racism" doesn’t violate the Constitution and is not an impeachable offense.

Mistake or not, democrats are trying to keep the impeachment process as straight- forward, and simple, as possible, for people's comprehension and eventual support. Given that Trump's 'racism' (plus xenophobia and misogyny, lying and insulting and spreading hate and division) was known much before he became president, and still elected, don't you think that those that allowed him to assault the presidency ought to be at fault as well? Perhaps Trump is just a symptom, painful as it may be, and we the people the disease? I guess that mistakes have been made, and the result a resentful discriminator, a 'magna cum' brutus ignoramus, as a result.

Just because they’re impeaching now over the Ukraine matter does not preclude the House from (1) continuing to investigate everything else and (2) waging court battles for access to everything they’ve been blocked from reviewing, not limited to his tax returns and other financial records and testimony from Don McGahn, Mick Mulvaney and John Bolton.

It doesn't matter with what Trump is impeached. The only question is can the case be won in the Senate. From what I have read that seems very unlikely. A failed impeachment will have two consequences. It will give Trump a cudgel to beat his opponents. He is a past-master at insults. The second consequence is that the odor of the younger Biden's activities in Ukraine will linger. Things don't have to be illegal to smell rotten. The real decision on Trump won't be in the Senate but in the polling both and at present I cannot identify a Democrat who will beat him. There I have two experienced politicians in agreement with me, Bloomberg and Hillary.

Donald Trump earned impeachment after Charlottesville, when he publicly defended and even praised domestic enemies including white supremacists, Klansmen and neo-Nazis after they rioted, marched armed with AR-15s on a temple and forced its evacuation (with its torahs), attacked dozens of people with sticks and murdered a young woman named Heather Heyer. But the country at that point naively didn't realize how popular Trump's standing up for the honor of white supremacists would be with the Republican Party and with Trump supporters.

Should Trump be impeached because he is a racist? Yes. His racism has extended far beyond "beliefs". He has ordered Hispanic infants and children into internment camps - some have already died, and many others suffer malnutrition and disease in these camps. He has no plans to reunite them with their families. Racism, certainly, but also clear violations of international humanitarian law, and the internment of these children comes precariously close to, if not actually an act of genocide. As a native-born American citizen of Middle Eastern ancestry, I understand that impeachment based on Trump's racist actions would help minority citizens. Any brown-skinned person in this country is now a target in Trump's America. White Americans must understand that it is a very short trajectory from "neo-Nazis and the KKK are some very fine people" and "go back to where you came from" to out and out targeting of brown skinned Americans. So far, most have felt comfortable treating racism as just one of Trump's character flaws. But it is much more than this. Trump has energized his base by using race and will continue to bang that drum through November 2020. Why? Because racism gets him votes. If Trump's base didn't want to hear Trump's disgusting racist rants these past three years, he would have stopped. Trump is bringing his voters the America they want. And unless we act, those of us of Middle Eastern or Hispanic or African ancestry may well be the next people he orders into camps.

As I read this article I was impressed with how much analyzing, debating about, and discussion of how to proceed with the impeachment is going on. One line that stood out was about the Democrats in the so-called swing states who don't want to go too far with the impeachment as they might lose their seats. I can't help but think how politics is fueling most if not all aspects of the impeachment process: is it too wide, or too narrow; should it be wrapped up now, or take longer; what will happen if this, or that. What will the political fallout be? At the risk of being simplistic, why won't the committee include as reasons for impeachment not just two but all the things they know the president did unconstitutionally. This includes racism; I'm quite sure at least one of his racist acts is unconstitutional. I fully agree with the Times writer who, in essence, said if nothing else, all of the president's behaviors need to go down in history, otherwise people in future generations will have a distorted version of this POTUS and this era. It's nothing less than Truth that's at stake here.

The Democrats should be honest about the reason Trump is being impeached; Hillary Clinton lost to him in 2016. She was their nominee, because they thought it was time for a female president, since we had a black president. She was a terrible choice. There were thousands of card carrying Democrats who didn't make a choice for president in 2016, because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for her. The Democrats are losers and they're about to lose again next year, because most Americans see this impeachment inquiry for the sham it is.

Democrats have to be careful that what they do now won't come back to bite them in the backside someday in the future. Speaker Pelosi is wise beyond most of us can imagine and Democrats and progressives would be wise to follow her lead. Some day the tables may be turned with a Democratic president and a corporate-representative Republican majority Congress. Republicans have itchy fingers and could impeach and convict a Democrat for simply wearing the wrong colored suit.