His White House Engulfed, Trump Keeps California in the Cross Hairs

Nov 22, 2019 · 72 comments
GRAHAM ASHTON (MA)
All the children of the near future who will be born into a world of poisoned water, air and land. Born into a world in flames all seasons of the year, will have only one person to hold responsible and that person will be DJ Trump - the destroyer of their future.
Andy Betancourt,Jr. (Los Angeles)
California is bigger than Trump! We won’t be stopped, especially by him.
sueinmn (minnesota)
CA should figure out a method to withhold all monies paid that ultimately support all those red poverty states. Trump can’t handle an independent woman much less an I dependent blue state!
Andy (Salt Lake City, Utah)
"Governor Newsom’s ex-wife, Kimberly Guilfoyle, now a Trump campaign adviser and girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr." Phew. Yeah. Talk about strange times. You don't read a sentence like that everyday. Not really sure we care about California being populous though. We should care that Trump is attacking a state which represents fully one-fifth of the US economy. That's 20% for those not familiar with fractions. If you truly believe deregulation helps the economy, Trump is helping California. They're only going to become more powerful and, trust me, California is not turning red anytime soon. See Orange County. For those of us who believe Trump's vendetta against California is a personal and political grudge disconnected from economic policy, you should be truly alarmed. A college flunky with bad business sense is once again playing Russian roulette with our financial security. You can read the circumstance either way. The circumstance is still bad both ways. When will conservative America stop fighting a war with ourselves? Car emission standards are not out to get you. Neither are Californians. Climate change however... If you can make Kentucky represent 20% of GDP, I might care about coal. Until then, leave California alone.
Phillip Stephen Pino (Portland, Oregon)
Each day, Trump and his Republicans act to make our planet less & less inhabitable for our children and grandchildren. The window of opportunity to effectively mitigate Climate Change is rapidly disappearing. The remaining 2020 Democratic Candidates will try to cut & paste portions of Governor Jay Inslee’s comprehensive & actionable Climate Change Mitigation Plan. We must go with the Real Deal. The winning Democratic Party 2020 Ticket: President Warren (build a green economy) + Vice President Inslee (save a blue planet)! W+IN 2020!
patriot (nebraska)
If Trump was impeached and forcible removed from office the market would sky rocket because the tariffs could be cancelled by Pence, provided he's not prosecuted as well.
DesertFlowerLV (Las Vegas, NV)
Someone should ask trump how great he thinks America could be without California leading the way. But let him obsess as that doesn't seem to work out very well for him. Maybe he'll come up with another crooked scheme for his GOP enablers to defend. One of these days it's gonna be one scandal too many, even for them.
Michael Livingston’s (Cheltenham PA)
Well, except that California has proclaimed itself the leaders of an effective insurrection, why shouldn't he be concerned?
Ardyth Shaw (San Diego)
I am a native Californian and I love my state...my favorite city in the world is New York and I visit often and am happy and contented to return home to San Diego...that said, who would have thought that California's biggest enemy would be the President of the United States...not my president by any stretch of the imagination but America's nevertheless.
Florence (USA)
President Trump has not been one to delve into the details of policy. Well polite understatement. Has he read them? Not.
Patricia (Washington (the State))
Just another clear example of abusing the power of the presidency to intimidate for personal gain (personal vindictiveness).
Pamela L. (Burbank, CA)
Let's cut to the chase here: he's a sick man and is so vindictive he can't let anything go. He perceives California to be a threat to him and to his reelection. Hopefully, he won't have a chance of lasting another four years. I would take any immigrant or homeless person off the street and bet they would do a better job of being president than our mentally ill president. If the impeachment doesn't remove him or cause him to resign, a big blue wave will take him out in the next election. Can't wait.
Tom (San Diego)
Trump hopes to bully California as his thesis in his Anger Management class. Good luck. California could care less what Trump thinks or does.
Frances (Colorado)
I don’t live in CA but I will choose to buy cars from companies meeting CA’s climate standards. I hope other people (and municipalities) across the US decide to support the car manufacturers siding with change.
Chuck (CA)
Trump keeps railing on California over poor forest management as the cause of massive fires. FACT: Despite Trump’s complaints, more than half of California’s forests are owned by federal agencies, which are tasked with managing them. By contrast, 40% are privately owned by companies, families or Native American tribes, and a mere 3% are owned by state and local agencies. Trump needs to learn basic facts.. only 3% of total forest and wildlands in California are under the jurisdiction and control of the state. He should be railing on his own cabinet over poor forest management... but of course that is not convenient to his hate based approach to governing by grievance.
deeannef (California)
@Chuck Facts don't matter if your mind is already made up!
Economist (Boulder, CO)
Political leadership avoiding responsibility and accountability appears to unrelated to party affiliation or electability. Fortunately, only the electorate suffer as they are the only ones to blame.
Renee Margolin (Oroville california)
No, the majority of those who voted in 2016 did not vote for toddler Trump, so are not responsible for his disastrous, incompetent regime. And no, false equivalence between the know-nothing Republicans and Democrats doesn’t actually alter reality no matter how many times you employ that dishonest tactic.
Barry (Nyc)
the EPA? No it is the EDA; the enviromental destruction agency. Let's get this straight. Bsrry
Sarah (California)
Funny that Trump doesn't rail and roar and insist that all the money that California pumps into the federal coffers be summarily refused. This guy is a juvenile delinquent, nothing more.
sjs (Bridgeport, CT)
Got to be honest here, rather nice to see the WEST Coast Elites getting the heat for a while. (even thought I know he'll be back to the East Coast Elites soon)
Michael James (Montreal QC)
The United States of America has never had a president as small as Donald J. Trump, Grifter-in-Chief.
Steven (NYC)
The pathetic and weak trump thinks this is the way to hurt Nancy Pelosi. LOL What a joke this small minded trump. Ms Pelosi and California will be around long after this conman trump is kicked to the curb or, hopefully sitting in jail with the rest of his corrupt friends.
Rob (Vernon, B.C.)
Sigh. A U.S. president waging war against a state and four major automakers because he wants laxer pollution rules and they want to do more to protect the environment. America is turning into a ridiculous laughing stock.
Jazz Paw (California)
@Rob I think we have already turned into one, but don’t blame the blue states. We didn’t vote for this petulant autocrat, and he’s never going to live it down.
Dolly Patterson (Silicon Valley)
Trump has criticized CA for not raking the forest yet, guess what, the FEDERAL Gov owns 97% of the forests in CA. The Feds should be responsible for these forests. Try has he might to hurt CA, Trump will loose the presidency before CA acts on any of his ridiculous assertions. Question: CA provides 40% of the USA budget...what wd happen if the state accidentally forgot to send in that money to the nation?
Dolly Patterson (Silicon Valley)
@Dolly Patterson oops, meant to write "Lose" not "loose"
Wondering (NY, NY)
@Dolly Patterson So are you saying you open to logging in National Forests in CA? Not so sure.
Miss Anne Thrope (Utah)
@Wondering - Logging is happening daily on National Forests. The problem isn't the logging. The problem is that it's done on the cheap and, therefore, destructively. It could be done in an environmentally responsible manner - but (R)s are too cheap to do it that way. They'd rather shove more tax cuts at the Pluto-Corporatocracy and grossly overfund the MIC.
Kevin Brock (Waynesville, NC)
Trump can try to swim against the tide all he wants. But the fact is that the 21st-century global energy transition is well underway. In less than 15 years, half of all new passenger vehicles sold will be all-electric, making fuel economy and emissions standards moot in California and everywhere else.
ms (ca)
I am not surprised. While we don't usually speculate on the diagnoses of public figures, at a medical conference dinner a few years ago, I was sitting with a group of psychologists/ psychiatrists/ physicians who concluded that Trump suffered from some type of personality or psych disorder or early medical disorder (like dementia) that affects his judgement and decision-making. Note this was not my choice of topic but by the end of the dinner, my colleagues had me re-examining the issue. He is obsessed with certain figures and issues beyond their impact on his Presidency, whether that's President Obama or California. He lies and makes up things all the time. His nonsensical sentences and poverty of speech (uses the same basic words "bad" "good" "amazing" "the best") is unusual for someone at his level (whether that's as a CEO or Pres). This is going to be a Ronald Reagan moment : when years from now (but hopefully much sooner) we realize that major decisions were being made by someone who was not entirely cognitively there. It may not be entirely that person's fault but it is our duty as a country to recognize that and take appropriate action. In contrast, with someone like Mike Pence or Mitch McConnell, I may disagree politically with much of what they believe or say but their line of thinking/ speech, etc. don't make me feel I am dealing with a potentially cognitively impaired person.
ghsalb (Albany NY)
@ms Agreed. There's a striking mental degeneration from Trump a few decades ago, as documented in these video clips: https://www.statnews.com/2017/05/23/donald-trump-speaking-style-interviews/ What a deadly combination: a mean-spirited sociopath, compounded by cognitive decline. Anyone else with these characteristics would be institutionalized, or be wearing an ankle bracelet.
Dolly Patterson (Silicon Valley)
@ms I've done legal/medical research on Narcissistic Personality Disorder and believes he has this.
JimBob (Encino Ca)
Trump is so vindictive, he makes Nixon look like Santa Claus.
sjs (Bridgeport, CT)
@JimBob When I was in NY years ago, that was the one thing everybody said about him, how vindictive he was.
Tim Prendergast (Palm Springs)
Proof that we are in the vanguard of opposing this immoral, petty, criminal, corrupt beast of a president. California, the most important state in the union, a state with a nation sized economy and a state that leads the nation in facing the future opposes everything this troglodyte stands for. So his response is to try to pick at us like a rabid hyena. We’ll see how that works out for him. Hint: it won’t work out well.
SNP (NJ)
Only a psychopath would try to thwart a state's long established policy of having more stringent car pollution standards because of the states's specific geographic conditions. Yes, the current POTUS is verifiably not a well human being. And here we are....
thomas briggs (longmont co)
It’s not just California. As Martin Niemoller said about a different set of fascists, “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” If Trump gets away with this vendetta toward California, who knows which (blue) state is next? And if you Republicans think it is OK to go after the blue states, what will you do when a Democratic president uses this precedent to attack your red states? Precedents matter. This potential-precedent must be blocked before it is established. This is a very good place to begin to end the political warfare delivered to us by Gingrich and his successors in the take-no-prisoners modern Republican Party. After all, wasn’t it the first Republican President who said “with malice toward none, with charity for all”?
Maureen O (Sacramento CA)
How amusing and inaccurate that the accompanying photo purportedly showing air pollution in California is actually Karl the Fog enveloping the Golden Gate Bridge. Vote Blue 2020.
R.P. (Bridgewater, NJ)
Trump is right about one thing: California's seeming inability to deal with the homelessness situation, which seems to be getting out of hand, along with crime, especially in San Francisco. Trump is a bull in a china shop but maybe you need that in this situation because progressives don't see a problem.
E Campbell (PA)
@R.P. everyone who has been to SF lately knows about and experiences the problem - some of the tech companies and billionaires have already offered funding for "solutions" but the solutions go far far beyond what any one city is experiencing - a lack of access to healthcare is a big issue - some of the homeless have lost their homes, and their jobs due to illness and an inability to pay. The homeless are everywhere in the world but that they exist in such high numbers in this very high country is on all of us. If trump really wanted to do anything about it he would expand and support the ACA - and subsidize premiums as was envisioned in the original plan. That he keeps trying to destroy shows that he has as much interest in finding as answer as he does fighting foreign corruption - not at all
Leonard (Chicago)
@R.P., bulls are only good at breaking things. Where are the comprehensive policy proposals?
Wondering (NY, NY)
Dont think he feels his White House is at all threatened...
Wondering (NY, NY)
"All the News Analysis That's Fit to Print" This reads more like an op-ed column -- Inquiry threatens to "engulf his administration" His presidency "teeters" Filed under the Climate heading. Pathetic...
ed (greenwich, ct)
@Wondering wrong, remember his tax cuts also destroyed SALT. What states were hurt by that that already pay a larger part of tax receipts.
Brian (Phoenix, AZ)
@Wondering Is that all you have?
John Grillo (Edgewater, MD)
And Americans were appalled by Nixon’s vindictive, petty, and corrupt “enemies list”. Now this unhinged Fake President, never at a loss to viciously strike out at any and all perceived slights, has a separate one solely aimed at a state of 40 million people. Take that Tricky Dick!
C (USA)
Stand strong California! Don’t let this petty man, abusing his presidency for personal vendettas, bring you to your knees.
TOM (Irvine, CA)
I propose that somewhere in California we place the Donald J Trump Presidential Library. Perhaps we should build it on the 18th hole of one of his underperforming golf courses? This “library” should consist of a singular “perfect” marble-ringed hole in the ground of great width and depth, representing both the achievements of his presidency and his contributions to political discourse. “Visitors” to the “library” would be allowed to place whatever they choose into the hole that is meaningful to them. If someone wishes to set up the Go Fund Me page I will significantly contribute.
Gustavo (Hoboken)
CA declared war on trump before he went after CA. As we all know, the Donald hits back even when he probably should turn the other cheek.
Sarah (California)
@Gustavo - In what way did CA declare war on Trump, exactly - ?
Zoenzo (Ryegate, VT)
@Gustavo "The Donald" needs to grow up and act like an adult.
sjs (Bridgeport, CT)
@Gustavo The"Donald" hits back when there is no offense, no attack. and no reason. The man ain't rational
Jazz Paw (California)
If Democrats want to do something useful, they should add this series of actions to the list of impeachable,offenses. Selective and dishonest enforcement of federal power is a violation of his oath of office to FAITHFULLY execute the law.
Jean W. Griffith (Planet Earth)
Gavin Newsom California's governor has been doing a terrible job managing California's forests, according to Donald Trump? What's the alternative? In Trump's twisted mind it's probably dozing and chainsawing all California's forests and landscaping golf courses.
John (San Jose, CA)
"Kill jobs and increase housing costs"? Pick one, you can't have both. Places with no jobs have cheap housing. Places like CA where jobs are plentiful have high housing costs. It's just supply and demand. Only in CA can you spend over $1M to buy a dumpy tract home and that's only because there is a huge line behind you ready to pay that much.
mtbspd (PNW)
@John Conservatives can never figure this out. They always tell us about "job-killing regulations", and the places that have the most "job-killing regulations" are the places with the fastest growing economies, except for some red places which can go up fast or go down fast, depending on what's happening with the price of oil lately. The really weird thing is that with the very clear 40 year pattern of the blue places growing economically while the red places stagnate, the Dems don't run on how liberal policies lead to more economic growth.
Jazz Paw (California)
@John It’s not their only inconsistency. They tell us that our air quality is bad and then tell us we don’t need an emissions waiver whose express purpose is to allow us to maintain air quality in the special circumstances that exist in CA. This is just predatory behavior, and Congress or the courts should put a stop to his abuse of power. And the federal government should be required to compensate CA for the damages these actions cause.
sjs (Bridgeport, CT)
@John Remember this: none of their "arguments" are actually to discuss an issue or convince someone. They are just angry talking points. Sound and fury signifying nothing
Bob (Oak Park, Il)
Deep blue state like California, Illinois, New York, etc, should start talking ahead of any possible Trump reelection of developing their own nullification strategy. South Carolina did so in the 1830s over tariffs (and left the country 30 years later over slavery). States rights have justly gotten a bad name in the US historically due its association with an immoral institution. Saving the environment, protecting science as a human value, and protecting humane social policies seems less immoral. As our courts, military, police etc. veer towards Red state sympathies, seems past time to put a new moral flag into the ground.
BT (Bay Area)
White House engulfed. Presidency teeters. Come on NYT. Trump certainly isn’t threatened with removal from office because the entire litany of investigations linked to Trump are all politically driven by the Democrats. Please bring some balance to your articles.
Sam Song (Edaville)
@BT It's not about whether he may be convicted but more about the public spectacle of the trial. I think we have not yet begun to see his anger as his impeachment proceeds. There may be destruction everywhere. The wrath of the Donald. I can just barely see him, trying to chase Rep Schiff around the Capitol.
Reva Cooper (Nyc)
Please stop just repeating the Trump talking points, and read some polls. Public opinion on Trump is changing and there are increasing Democratic election victories.
John (San Jose, CA)
@BT Trump blatantly violated election law. He isn't threatened from removal because of the reality of unity in the Senate Republicans. The law and reality are unrelated.
Eero (Somewhere in America)
I thought that targeting someone, or a state, using the power of the presidency for political reasons was a crime. Certainly it's an abuse of power. Trump's actions are clearly politically motivated with no basis in reality, clearly they should be struck down by the Courts. But Trump seems to own the courts and Congress will not impeach him. So perhaps California should do what Trump does with laws he doesn't like. Just ignore them.
Jazz Paw (California)
@Eero It may come to that, but we still have a lot of levers to pull that would be legal and just as effective.
Sam Song (Edaville)
@Eero But, they will impeach him and that action will stigmatize him strongly.
Raz (Montana)
I doubt the veracity of the Times claims about multiple aides divulging information about the President's intentions and policies. Sounds contrived to me. They produced no names.
Louise Cavanaugh (Midwest)
I bet the Times reporters enjoy having well connected sources more than impressing you with their names.
Robert (Out west)
Might try reading the article, which cites both anonymous sources and such characters as Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, GOVERNOR NEWSOME’S EX-WIFE. And might try common sense, which says to anybody over the age of six that a) your boy throws anonymous gunk at the way nineteen times a day, and b) ugly vindictiveness has been a hallmark of Trump’s behavior since he was a little boy.
Djt (Norcal)
@Raz Here's what I would do if I were a journalist learning my craft: I would listen to what potential sources have to say, and try to corroborate it. If it were corroborated by another source or sources or proved to be true, I would listen to that source more closely the next time. After, say, 20 times where that person't statements proved accurate, and given that I understand how they would be in a position to get certain information because I understood their role in the administration, I might even use that person as a sole source for something. See how that works? Develop a source, let them prove themselves to be trustworthy, then depend on them for information. If I did this, why would I need to put the name of the person in the story, when it would end their interest in sharing information with me. What would knowing the name of the source do for you? The NYT has a corrections page. You should check it out some time. Then compare it to the FOX News corrections page. What's that? There isn't one? Do you remember when GOP reps during the Bush Administration were falling in the Abramoff scandal? FOX would but (D) after the Republican reps names on the chyron for the first hour or so of coverage. Your ability to gather and evaluate information is being destroyed by conservative media.
Shannon (MN)
I think you are being generous that this is about the auto standards. This smacks of retribution against Schiff and Pelosi, at the expense of a significant portion of the US population.