And that is telling—
Bravo to both of them!
Sanders/Warren, Warren/Sanders, Warren/Sanders, Sanders/Warren
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Warren may have moved into the front runner money race status but firing an African American Mr. McDaniels from her top tier campaign staff may not raise her credentials on race issue. It is unclear why Mr. McDaniels was fired as the statement released by Ms. Warren’s national organizing director, said he was let go from the campaign after it “determined that his reported conduct was inconsistent with its values.” is not satisfactory in light of excuses given in the past to discriminate against African American males. All the effort that Ms Daniels put in to get Warren to the front and center of the Democratic race is all a waste. I am sure Americans who are considering Warren would like to know why exactly this happened and whether he was fairly treated or just used, abused and dumped.
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It's beyond Banana Republic that the candidate with the biggest financial "haul" is considered the winner! What about people who don't have enough left over to give .50 much less $1.00. They vote but they don't count. The Koch brothers and their ilk rule the day. Shame on the American people for letting the Almighty dollar rule what defines "the best" candidate. Shame!
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I love Elizabeth Warren!
I’m all for her, she really cares for the regular Americans.
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Warren has not shunned wealthy donors.
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So what.
She and Bernie have lots of issues that will make them unelectable but the major one is that America will never elect a leftist president.
I am a Dem and i would never vote for a leftist. I would rather leave the Pres blank or vote Libertarian.
I am not alone.
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I assume the reason for this is because you are a conservative Democrat and is mainly liberal on social issues. Am I correct?
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@simon sez
I don’t think that will have any impact based on the state you’re in. Protest all you want.
This proves what Bernie has been saying for a very long time. We need a grassroots revolution to equal the playing field against the rich who have systematically bought our legislators. Unite and demand real change from our reps. Go Bernie and Liz!
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Warren's got this. She's the best.
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Bernie Sanders raised more and had more donors.
Facts matter.
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Starting with Obama in the early going in ‘07, Dems have shown that a charismatic candidate can neutralize Citizens United by raising huge amounts from small donors, effectively castrating the Kochs of the world in both parties. Biden’s obviously the total favorite of the Wall St., Clintonian Dem rich. But they’re smart enough to be very wary about betting on him with their pocketbooks, since his literal geezerly physical frailty, as well as his total lack of appeal for the Millennials, means he’s a poor bet for the nomination, much less the general. Now that poor Bernie has had a heart attack, Biden’s frailty will weigh even more heavily on his prospects, not to mention helping Warren pull away from him by consolidating the progressive vote behind her.
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@Fred White
Sounds good. But for the fact that the MAJORITY of Democrats tend to be more center than left/progressive.
And if Warren or Sanders don't come to terms with this fact, it's over.
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I’m a septuagenarian. I’m not interested in any Dem candidate over 70. We want two vigorous terms. Harris/Buttigieg or vice versa.
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She’s almost keeping up with Bernie!
This is great news for America. The left is ascending, and the DNC must take note.
Social Democracy—by whatever name—is a winning platform.
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Now let's get "Citizens United" reversed—
The WORST Supreme Court decision, Mr. Chief Justice Roberts, of our time!
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I’m all for my senator, Elizabeth Warren, as I have been for years, long before her current popularity. But I still can’t see how she’s going to get 270 votes in the Electoral College.
Would someone please explain it to me? Someone who knows—really knows—the political dynamics of the "Blue Wall'' battleground states, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
With her far-left agenda, how's she going to win over the independent and swing voters who dominate those states, and who will ultimately decide the Electoral College?
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Biden and Sanders are too old. Warren's age is borderline, but her life story, work ethic, and policy agenda are all very favorable. Her small contribution numbers are also a plus. The person that donates $2,800 has one vote. 100 people that donate $28 dollars have 100 votes, and that $28 is more of a sacrifice for the little donor than the $2,800 is for the wealthy donor. This 'sacrifice' makes them a much more reliable supporter.
Regardless of your favorite Democrat, be sure to vote in November even if your favorite is not the candidate.
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Down with age discrimination!!
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Who cares. Does everything have to be about money? Oh right it is the US.
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I have never given money to a primary candidate before, however this time around, I am one of those small donors who Elizabeth can count on to give each quarter. When she chose this small donor route most pundits and consultants thought this was a self-limiting mistake, but she had confidence in her ideas and in the American people, a confidence that no one else had or has. She speaks the truth and talks to the audience as the adults we are. Drawing from her childhood experiences, she knows what it is like to face financial hardship and comes across as genuinely caring about average Americans. I love her. What a needed breath of fresh air.
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@Carolyn,
So you like life-long Republicans who flip parties for political convenience?
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"Warren and Sanders have both shunned wealthy donors"
I take very strong issue.
Sanders had 1.4 million donors for an average of $18 per donor in the 3d quarter; while Warren had 0.9 million for an average of $26 in the same period.
Forbes reports that, as of Sept. 1, 2019, Sanders has zero billionaire supporters while Warren has a growing number.
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Warren is truly a transformative candidate, with bold, "progressive capitalist" ideas to revive the middle class and help the poor, and I predict she will be the nominee and win the election.
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Neither Elizabeth Warren nor Bernie Sanders DOMINATED Q3 fundraising. That would be Donald Trump, who raised $125M in Q3, five TIMES the top Democrat.
Even more importantly, every dollar raised by the various Democratic candidates will be spent by the end of the month, as they battle each other for the DNC nomination. Almost all of Trump's money will be earning interest, at least until there is a clear-cut DNC candidate.
Trump v. Clinton proved that money isn't everything, but I'd still rather be the candidate with a few hundred million dollars in the bank, waiting for the real contest!
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Liz Warren's success in fund raising and in the polls is clearly setting herself up for an onslaught of attacks from the Trump campaign. It appears that Trump aimed in the wrong direction by pressuring the Ukraine to go after Biden, and possibly fatally wounding himself in the process, but you can be certain that no matter what Trump's fate is the GOP will make every effort to smear Warren with lies and accusations that she is un-American, a threat to democracy, and kicks her dog.
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@kevin cummins,
Actually, they'll probably regurgitate the FACT that she lied most of her life for personal benefit, and she was a lifelong REPUBLICAN until she hit her mid 40s, and she was appointed to some wonky banking commission by the Clinton Administration. At that point, she decided she might like to get into this politics game, but that having an (R) after her name in MA was a handicap.
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@Andrew Well then I guess the GOP will support her then, since she was once one of them. That makes her a shoo-in right?
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Let me get this straight.
Sanders has moved from from 4th place to 1st in fundraising, and is leading Warren, who he previously trailed.
And he has TWICE as many unique donors as Warren.
But “the biggest takeaway is that Warren is on a roll”?
This is exactly why so many people feel that the corporate media are biased against Bernie. You are committed to promoting a narrative irrespective of the facts.
Sanders and Warren have been neck and neck for second place in polling averages for months. For the past two weeks Warren has pulled ahead a little as Biden has deflated, but Sanders numbers have remained stable.
Warren's support is overwhelmingly white and high income. If it remains so, she has little room to grow, whereas Bernie, whose support is considerably more diverse -- lower-income and non-white -- has much more to gain, especially if Biden continues to shed support.
Outside the Democratic Party, Warren polls very badly, which should worry people concerned about electability, while Bernie is much stronger with independents and so-called "Obama-Trump voters."
Bernie is much more likely to expand the electorate by exciting the poor and working class voters of all colors who stayed home in 2016. This is key not only to beating Trump but to taking the Senate in order to undo much of what Trump has done and to pass more progressive legislation.
Please, NYTimes, take your finger off the scale and report the news fairly.
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Why is everything about money.
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Over the past two quarters, even as he builds national name recognition, Mayor Pete has raised the most, yet the media still treats him as an afterthought:
Buttigieg: $44.0 million
Warren: $43.8 million
Sanders: $43.3 million
Biden: $37.2 million
Harris: $23.4 million
After hearing him speak thoughtfully and coherently at the last three debates, I believe that he is the natural moderate-to-liberal successor to Barack Obama, not Joe Biden. The Elizabeth Warren/Bernie Sanders liberal lane is yet to narrow to one, but I would argue that a moderate Democratic candidate, or a VP running mate of Pete's common sense and values is precisely what Americans have been craving.
We're not up in arms in 2020 to replace Obamacare with Medicare for all, we're up in arms about the need to restore sanity, decency, American values, and service to the White House, and the need to deal with climate change before it's too late.
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Sanders’ health issues coupled with being 78 will abrogate his election chances in a bad way.
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@NOTATE REDMOND,
"health issues"?
He had a heart attack, on the stump, going up against Corey Booker and Robert Francis O'Rourke. What do you think is going to happen when he has to get on the debate stage with Donald Trump?
I can't figure the angle on this, YET, but Sanders having a heart attack at the same time that Trump and Biden are drawing ALL the media attention, for all the wrong reasons, seems a little TOO convenient for the Socialist/Communist candidate.
We live in a world where Adam Schiff gets four pinocchios from the WASHINGTON POST, and nobody cares, just like I haven't heard "booh" about the fact that Jussie Smollett's "special prosecutor" was caught having hosted a political fundraiser for Kimberly Foxx, and he donated $1,000.00 of his own money to her last AG campaign, but a judge ruled today that THAT is NOT a conflict of interest!
We're being lied to and dragged around by the nose hairs, and nobody seems to notice. The few that do are called "crazy," and "conspiracy theorists."
Warren has not, however, disavowed big money in the general election. Only one candidate has, and that is what motivates his small donors (at least this one).
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The dark, greedy lies of socialism / Communism spread by privileged intellectuals continue to spread ignorance. People like Warren or Hugo Chavez can win open elections. Warren knows a good deal about free enterprise, but her flamingly anti-worker open borders position and her commitment to forgive all student loans (socialize student loans, health care, is socialized housing next? How about universal income?) dramatically deepen the central planning of American life, reducing the freedoms people had in the past. The notion that the government can provide housing, free food, jobs, education, and free medical care is a seductive tale, and tens of millions of people have died agonizing deaths for believing it. Meanwhile, business has lifted most of India and China out of poverty, with Africa next.
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What kind of freedom the people had? To die on the streets? The people are dependent on their employer for many aspect of their lives. Health insurance, education benefits, pensions - that all provided by employer, decreasing the ability of workers to choose. Employer chooses everything. Add to that noncompete clause and the choice becomes even more narrow. Warren wants to give the people freedom. Freedom to choose their employer, and leave this employer when work conditions are not good without fear to lose healthcare, pension or educational benefits for their children
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@yulia the freedom to buy their own home instead of paying taxes to build nonworkers a home; the freedom to earn a high American wage instead of a low global wage; to pay low college tuition prices instead of government loan-based high prices. People could afford medical bills 50 years ago more than today.
Every expansion of government spending is effectively a cut to working family households. And a legal mandate that they must pay or lose their home and be jailed.
Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who has committed to not take PAC, Super-PAC, hidden money, and seek Big Dollar contributors in both the primary and the general election. Warren is taking an 18-month vacation from Big Money. Sanders created a new model for raising political money by keeping stride for stride with Clinton in 2016. Only Bernie is confident enough in this model of fund raising. It would have added perspective for the reporter to add this fact to the story.
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If fundraising is a sign of a campaign's rise as the story's lede states, then Warren is in the basement compared to Trump, who raised $45 million.
And before you dismiss this differential as simply the Republican 1%, I'd suggest reading Thomas Edsall's recent column, "The Changing Shape of the Parties Is Changing Where They Get Their Money: Trump leads among small donors."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/opinion/trump-fundraising-donors.html
Who is the most serious threat to Trump's reelection?
Biden, the person Trump is busily bribing other countries to invent dirt on.
Not Warren!
He doesn't even bother to call her "Pocahantas" anymore.
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Warren's taking any and all money in the general election is a dealbreaker for me. That and her wishy washyness on Medicare for All. Oh, and her non-answer to the question as to why she voted for Trump's military budget. Her campaign could use some big structural change. Plus she comes off as inauthentic, even if you leave out the lies about her heritage. Trump would eat her alive.
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What is the average donation for each candidate? What I can't understand is how can Bernie get so many donations of about $20 and not be leading in the polls. Please explain.
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@Jerry
That's easy.
Money isn't everything.
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@N. Smith I am thinking that even a small donation indicates commitment. Any idea what the average donation is for each candidate and how many donations each candidate has?
Senator Warren used her fund raising $ from PACs to create IOUs, especially from target states. Oh, I forgot, she doesn't take money from PACs. Promising everything to everyone is not what we need.
Our country is in serious danger. We cannot have another four years of Trump. Warren will not beat Trump.
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It is disturbing that American politics is little more than a money laundering scheme and that it is lauded depending on who is collecting their personal treasure trove. Instead, money should be removed from politics and campaigns should be reduced to public debates not a media circus.
The corruption of the entire system begins with the first volunteer knocking on the door furtively begging for money and ends with a revolving door of pay for play policies from foreign to domestic. Elizabeth Warren, like her brethren in deceitful solicitation, is not to be commended but vilified for the corruption this knowingly engenders.
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If Warren is so committed to the model of small-donor fundraising as untainted by corruption, why does she plan to abandon it in the general election?
Does corruption end at the end of primary season?
Bernie seems to think it doesn't and plans to continues the same small-donor strategy.
Warren really seems to be wanting the image of grassroots without the risks. Not what I'm looking for in a leader.
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@Conroy
Guess What...
If the President of the United States pushes through a tax bill that increases the Billionaires' wealth, of course they would give some of that back to him.
That does not indicate that any of those donors are interested in Democracy. They are interested in another tax bill, and another. Already 1% of the people in the U.S. receive 40% of the new income generated each year. So giving millions, by Billionaires, is easy.
What is the inscription on the Statue of Liberty ?
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$5 This month to Warren. Best investment I've made this year.
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Andrew Yang went from 2 million to more than 10 million. That's the biggest jump for a candidate. He's the one that electrifies people and the one to watch.
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Why is this story NOT about Bernie Sanders bringing in the most money this quarter? Warren is having fundraisers where people pay $10,000 to attend. Bernie’s average donation is far lower than $10,000! More like $19. We know who works for the poor and disenfranchised! Bernie’s stents will only make him stronger! He has been promoting the same pro-worker agenda for decades. You folks wrote the wrong article.
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Regardless of the trouble he has caused for himself, Trump has now successfully smeared, slandered and damaged Biden. Even for those who support him, Trump has lodged a subliminal doubt in everyone's mind about the propriety of Biden's sons dealings with foreign countries when his Dad was Vice President.
So next up on deck for Trump is Warren, who will be a far easier target than Biden. Forget for a moment that her charisma is lacking even more than Hillary Clinton's. She is not a natural politican in any way, shape or form and struggled in her last election in deep blue Massachussetts. She has a fatal flaw as a candidate, which is the fact that she claimed she was a Native American for most of her life. The Boston Globe, after investigating, reported that they could find no benefit accrued by Warren by making that claim over and over again throughout her life. Warren then claimed that she does have some Cherokee ancestry as proven through DNA testing. All of this while she did absolutely nothing, zero, zilch to ever help a single Native American during her political career.
If she becomes the Democratic nominee for President in 2020, every moment of every hour of every day until election day will come a steady stream of new investigations into her misappropriating another's race her entire life, demands for the DNA results, rebukes from the Cherokee Nation and probably some evidence she did derive some benefit from her lifelong charade. That means Trump wins.
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Honest headline: Bernie Sanders leads all candidates in third-quarter fund-raising.
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So the headline is really that Bernie outraised everyone. OK.
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Come on NYTs... you forgot to mention that Warren carried over approx. $10mm from her senate campaign, which allowed her to forgo big donors. Her net (personal) worth is approx $12mm according to Forbes, so that doesn't hurt.
Meanwhile, Trump raised $45mm online from small donors in the 3rd quarter (313,000 were first-time), kicking everyone's butt.
If we democrats don't stop this pollyanna nonsense about Warren's delusions, were done for. Literally.
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Warren/Buttigieg ticket.
I don't really care what order.
Let's do this America!
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I"m gonna keep donating to her, all the way to the White House!
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Great news for Republicans! Seriously
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Great news for Republicans! Seriously
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So, once again the NYT can't quite give Bernie his due, i.e., the headline should be "Bernie Sanders Leads Pack in Third Quarter Fund-Raising."
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Our next President in 2020
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can't help but feel the NYT is willfully ignoring a bigger story here. Specifically, a story that is $700,000 bigger.
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Shouldn’t the headline read “Sanders Beats Both Biden and Warren in Donations”? The bias by the Times against his campaign is so obvious.
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I'm confused why this article isn't either about how Biden had the greatest haul of donors (as a result of his policy of accepting money from large, wealthy donors) or how Sanders had the largest haul of any candidate only accepting small donations. Warren is third total and second in her category - if you want to highlight a candidate who only accepts small money from grassroots donors, why not give the headline to Bernie instead?
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The only thing keeping Elizabeth Warren from becoming the next president is Wall Street, corporations and the basket of deplorables.
The first two will put up a big money fight because of their greed and avarice. The third groups desperate attempt to gather all of the bigots, racists, and intolerant right wing voters they can rally will be working at the grass roots level.
We shall see what the American voters are really made of in the next election if Warren is the Democrats choice.
Interestingly, three friends who are Warren supporters, have told me about interactions with Trump supporters. Once the Trump supporters found out that my friends were backing Warren they all responded in kind. All of them began to do the stereotypical, racist, Native American "war cry", followed by calling her a socialist.
This trifecta, Wall Street, corporate America and the deplorables, are the biggest things standing between Warren and the presidency. Let's hope the American voter can over come this challenge.
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@Magan Great comment, and absolutely correct. Can we take our country back? I hope so.
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I wish Warren would engage some of the pro-Trump people who, as some are saying, fundamentally like Trump just because they hate "liberals" so much that it subsumes caring about anything else affecting their quality of life. I doubt Warren would be flustered or enraged by whatever they say. Rather, they would show themselves as the terribly misinformed citizens they are, perhaps peeling off another layer Trump supporters.
It's rather curious that the NYTimes chose to highlight the second-place fundraiser rather than the first-place fundraiser. Bernie may have been down due to health, but he's certainly not out, and I for one am glad to see both him and Warren in the race.
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I sure hope we can elect Elizabeth but I’m not sure we can elect a woman. Fingers crossed.
By the numbers:
Q1 plus Q2 totals($ millions):
Buttigieg: 44.0 (trending downward)
Warren: 43.8 (trending upward)
Sanders: 43.3 (trending upward)
Biden: 37.2 (trending downward)
Harris: 23.4 (no apparent trend)
and the rest: 32.8 (trending upward)
Candidates' total: 224.5 (listed candidates in this article; trending upward.)
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Unfortunately Warren won’t be able to survive Tulsi Gabbard’s attacks in the next debate. She just has too many vulnerabilities and will fall like Harris.
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For all the commenters complaining that the article should be about Bernie and that he hasn't gotten enough press, please refer to the Times article from October 1.
Bernie Sanders’s Fund-Raising Haul: $25.3 Million in Third Quarter https://nyti.ms/2mxq7nd
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Great, think she will scoop up many of Bernie's voters if he drops out so she should beat Biden pretty comfortably.
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I hope that the field of candidates starts to narrow down quickly. Pooling all the money into one or two candidates will make a big difference and get the Dems moving towards a dominating 2020 election.
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Lowest unemployment in 50 years, it's getting better!!
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I gave one of those new source donations Elizabeth got this past quarter. Warren's experience and Buttegieg's youth are a combination I am looking forward to voting for in 2020. Something tells me polls that allow respondents to rank their top three candidates would show that I am not alone.
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I see that Andrew Yang had the biggest individual increase, and by far in terms of percent increase. Ten million in the quarter, up from $2.8 million in the second quarter, and he's also polled as high as fourth recently. And yet he's not worthy of mentioning?
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@Sigh
The online platforms in countries like Germany, Canada and Australia are excited by Yang because he addresses the future which is being impacted by the digital revolution (we call it 'Industrie 4.0' and yes, what he says resonates, so far so true). Yang's talk is a foresight that I am surprised why Yang (like Sanders) are so underrated in NYT. The mainstream media should dig more into him so readers could finally scrutinize his personality. The Grassroot level is drawn to him, he appears original. For the moment, yes, he could be the one to beat Trump.
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The $$ amounts always puts me off. This is the reason why many Americans think that the entire system is corrupt and decayed and perhaps it is. There is more information on $$ amounts then policy debates, policy challenges etc. With the political current system in place there will always be polarization. If we want to unite the country then the focus should be only on how the better policies can improve the life of an ordinary American. Politicians should be only in the business of enacting the right policies!
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@Kapil
Thank you for saying this. My sentiments exactly.
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Warren wants to "fight corruption" yet she somewhat was unable to make up her mind whether it is ok or not for a child of a Vice President, if unqualified to do so, to sit on the board of a foreign corporation. It makes me wonder why no one gave her a script on the subject. A Warren nomination will guarantee a Trump victory come Nov 2020.
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Bernie should step back and endorse Elizabeth Warren. Let’s solidify the party.
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@David J
Never going to happen. Sanders couldn't bring himself to solidify the party in 2016 -- and he won't do it now.
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Trump loves impeachment.
It puts Biden squarely and negatively in the cross hairs until he drops out. In comes Ms. W. But she needs to talk to Axelrod and Plouffe about putting together a winning campaign. She has plans - but, alas, no plan B for when her Medicare-for-all proposal crashes and burns in the Senate.
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I would be so proud to have Elizabeth Warren as our president. Considering what the past three years have done to our country—more, if you include the campaign for 2016—what a relief it would be to get back to the running of the country with brains and integrity instead of the vanity tweet-fest of our current president, with his barrage of lies and calls for violence.
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It is not the amount money. The piece revealed 509K total donors with new 300K donors in it for Warren. It means that 60 per cent of potential voters believe in Warren on top of the Warren's base. The piece does not reveal comparable numbers for Sanders, Biden, and Buttigieg. Warren gains momentum.
So between them, the top 10 democratic candidates in terms of money raised have now pulled together 144.2 million dollars. How many underprivileged children could have had breakfast or life-saving medication for that money? How many acres of old growth forest could we have saved? I know that it is a drop in the ocean compared to a US GDP of nearly 20 trillion dollars, but sometimes I feel that it would be ever so refreshing if a candidate decided to run a campaign partially based using that money in the best possible way in terms of doing good to underprivileged people, the environment, or other worthy causes. What if they show us how good leaders they have the potential to be by showing us how much good they can squeeze out of this comparatively little amount of money? A real life cost-benefit and cost optimization exercise.
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Do you feel the same about the Republican President, who has raised even more? I am all for getting money out of politics and using only public campaign financing, but I don't think that will ever happen, unfortunately. In the meantime, the number one priority should be to get Individual 1 out of the White House, and if we need to spend a billion to do it, it's money well spent.
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Push back:
Donating money to these candidates does more good than harm because it works to remove a very destructive president from the White House. By working to actively remove a president who has destroyed many regulations and best practices, the money will still have a monumental impact on the environment.
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@RolandR Oh certainly, I fundamentally agree with that. Few things would cause more damage to the world than having that lunatic in power for another four years. I always just find it somewhat shocking just how much money is spent on things that fundamentally really have very little to do with democracy
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I like Elizabeth Warren but I’m concerned that she won’t win. It seems to me that the enthusiasm for her is emanating from wealthy dark blue districts where the residents have little contact with those of us in “fly-over” swing state territory. For instance, in Arizona, we are poised to win another senate seat and many of us who interact with Independents and Republicans who are weary of Trump are showing a willingness to vote for Joe Biden and yet this is ignored and mocked by the coastal blue elites and progressives. It’s as though many of you refuse to understand that the presidential election will be won in heartland swing states (as well as Florida) and that we need to win the Senate as well.
Seriously, do you actually understand that?
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@Annnabelle
I , for one seriously understand that, which is why I have to agree with you -- and I'm in one of those "wealthy dark blue districts", albeit one where ANY vote against Trump is what matters most.
That said, the disconnect between the progressive left and the rest of the Democratic Party one again threatens to cause a split that allow him to win again in 2020.
And if that lack of unity makes it difficult to reclaim the majority in the Senate -- it will be close to impossible to take back the White House.
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If those folks can't be persuaded to vote for a woman Senator who is a Harvard Law Professor and a fundamentally decent person who will have their best interests at heart, instead of looking out for the banks, then, by gosh, they and we DESERVE 8 more years of Individual 1's shenanigans.
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@Annnabelle
I find the same lack of enthusiasm for Sen. Warren here in Michigan. I am not sure how she can solve this problem. All I know is that we need someone who can win the general election for the sake of our democracy.
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Bernie, Pete, and Liz all get a lot of money from a fringe elements in the electorate, but are hardly likely to defeat Trump next November.
Bernie was a great money raiser in 2016, damaged Hillary to the point where Trump was elected, but Bernie is an extremely unlikely person to be elected president. Even before his recent health problems his support in the broad polls was in free fall. But he raises millions from small donors. In Summary, that means nothing. Ditto for Liz.
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@David
Bernie didn’t cause the Clinton loss. Clinton did.
She ran an abysmal campaign that ignored the rust belt and went out of its way to actively insult working people.
That’s on HRC, not Bernie or his followers.
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Sanders has the most donors and donations, and had the biggest quarter-over-quarter increase.
Despite the media’s obsession with Elizabeth Warren, the numbers show who’s the hottest candidate.
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@Jeff D
It appears that you’re not aware of certain numbers, such as various polls. She has momentum and he’s stagnant.
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@BK If he is stagnant, it is because of a shameless favoritism in the media toward Warren. Bernie has in fact rarely been mentioned in the last few months, other than as the old guard who is going to be overtaken by Warren. If she wins the nomination, it will be largely due to an amazing assist from the media, both TV coverage and the print media.
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It’s like Mitt Romney said: “money is speech my friend “.
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Elizabeth isn't doing it all with small donations. In fact, she's transferred $10.4 million that she raised during her 2018 senate race to underwrite her presidential run. She has also pledged to take even more big money if she wins the nomination.
Elizabeth Warren is no Bernie Sanders
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@John
Thank you.
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Elizabeth Warren go for it!
She is the candidate with the best coherent approach.
Let's stop to mention narratives like "she is progressive", "she is far left", "she is extreme ..", etc.
We need to learn to judge candidates on their value propositions.
What is wrong with a new healthcare plan (what we have right now is not sufficient) and certainly there will be certainly transition phases. What is wrong to improve our educational system? What is wrong to protect our climate and the next generation to come? What is wrong to look at a sensible gun control? What is wrong to improve our infrastructure?
If elected, she will have a world class team in her administration! A team who is ready to lead America and the world again.
Those values make America great!
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The real story here is that Biden came in fourth - by a decisive margin - in the quarterly fundraising totals.
This from the guy who started out as the presumptive nominee and the establishment favorite. That didn't take long.
The people are crying out for change. Even my 86 year old mother, who desperately wants a return to "normal", is seeing the wisdom of looking beyond Biden.
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@Cousy
Just a quick reminder.
Polls and campaign funds aren't the only way of judging the outcome of an election -- remember 2016?
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A wonderful brilliant woman.
I am not sure America deserves her.
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While this may be good news for Elizabeth Warren and her supporters, this type of reporting gives the erroneous impression that the amount of money one yields in campaign contributions is in any way indicative of the results on Election Day.
After all, Donald Trump with all of his questionable tweets and misdeeds is still raking it in and there's no doubt about where he stands. For himself.
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The more I learn of Warren, who impresses me more as a shapeshifter [Anglo to Native American to Anglo] for career reasons; Republican to Democrat [also for career reasons]; health care for all, but not all, than someone who belives in anything other than ambition. She looks and sounds and has all the fake authencity of Hillary. Inaunthencity fueled by ambition guarantees a loss even if she is elected because she is not what she pretends to be which means people voting their hope [as many Trump voters did for example] will be disappointed because she's just a Clinton II retread who was a Clinton I retread who was a triangulator. the key term being "angulator" as someone only has angles and not principles. Which resulted in the judgment that getting a hummer in the oval office was a good idea.
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@stevelaudig
You appear to be unaware of her intentions regarding anything you discussed. That’s just spin. She was not involved in politics until several years ago. She changed her to party registration nearly 25 years ago. Do you think she intended to run for office in the 1990s as a law professor, or even 10 years ago? It’s unfortunate that facts don’t matter to so many people.
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@BK The facts are there, not to mention her wooing of PAC money and then saying she doesn't take PAC money.
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I have been reading lately about Teddy Roosevelt.
TR was by no means a perfect human being but he was a bold and courageous visionary. Despite coming from privilege and despite facing incredibly powerful forces with virtually unlimited resources, he took on the wealthy and powerful who were raping the country for personal benefit.
TR introduced a brand new idea to the world - he said that the nation's forests belonged to every American as well as future generations of American rather than special interests seeking to exploit them for private gain.
TR took his message to the American people. He educated Americans and explained that what seemed impossible was actually possible.
It was a long and ugly fight with many setbacks. But ultimately he changed the course of the nation.
Elizabeth Warren is the only candidate I have seen that has a similar bold vision for America. Nor is this something new. She has been fighting for average Americans her whole life. Similar to TR, she is a great communicator who is capable of articulating a seemingly impossible goal to create an America in which the people are empowered to create the country they want to live in rather than to bow down to corporations and the exploitative wealthy elite.
I don't agree with 100%. I think she goes too far on some issues. However, in this age of extremism, Warren is forced to stake out very tough positions if she is to change the trajectory of America from its current downward spiral.
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Not surprised. She is the best candidate.
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I’m curious. Bernie out-raises the entire field and it’s not even second page news. What if Warren had out-raised Bernie? Think the media would be so mum? Just another example of the efforts to keep Bernie in the margins, despite him being the “front runner” by all accounts.
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@H. KANT
Bernie's fundraising is strong - there's no two ways about it.
But polling has clearly shown that he has not grown his base of support since he announced. Warren's has grown consistently and dramatically.
If you look at how the primary/caucus calendar plays out, it is hard to imagine that Bernie will be able to amass enough delegates. Warren is ahead in the populous states and the early states.
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@Cousy
Elizabeth Warren still hasn't cracked the nut of overwhelming support in the African-American community, which tends not only to be more moderate -- but who also consistently goes to the polls!
And just like Sanders found out the hard way in 20116, there's no getting around not getting the Black vote.
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@Cousy
The article is about fund-raising, not polls.
All this interest in and debate over Dem candidates is fantastic. But let's remember to vote Dem next fall. If you don't like the Dem nominee, think of it as voting against trump. It shouldn't be that hard no matter how strong your allegiance to a particular Dem candidate. Not doing so is trump's path to victory. And his victory would I fear doom our children to a fascistic, theocratic America.
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Let's hope Warren can raise enough money to demolish the Electoral College.
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The USA and all of us are so in need of someone sane, thoughtful, truthful, compassionate, experienced and with some wit to occupy the critical office of POTUS. I think Elizabeth Warren would fit the bill perfectly. You go, girl!
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Let's not forget that the big corporations and rich families are financing the campaign of Donald Trump, because the billionaire gift that Trump gave in taxes exemption that the rich no longer pay📉😩😫
So the take away of this story is that Bernie is raising more money than warren... Shouldn’t this article be about him? The media’s bias against Bernie has been absolutely sickening.
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PLEASE REALIZE
Biden is this year’s Hillary
Can’t win
Bernie now needs to throw his support to Warren.
That is a winning ticket!
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@Salvatore Monella Sr
Warren cannot beat Trump. Even though the media is silent about this, Warren does not have the integrity to win over the public: Warren has a tendency to fib, e.g Cherokee mother.
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She will actually make America great again.
And think about it, what do Trump have on her?
He will keep calling Pocahonas until his demise, which is at best a distraction.
Integrity personified, that is Elisabeth Warren.
She is what you need, and the rest of the world also.
@Thomas Sandstorm
No, she is not the one. Instead of a milestone, it is likely to be a disaster for the Democrats. Her endorsement means Trump's chances of winning is higher because she does not appeal to the different segments of society: Despite the media's pollyanna treatment of her, those critical thinkers in the public cannot be swayed by the media. Sorry, but she is too disconnected from the grassroot level to lead the people.
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Warren is definitely a contender. She has strong opinions and offers detailed solutions to real problems. She is not corrupt and will play by the rules, i.e. none of the slime we see with Trump. She is going to present her ideas, but I believe she is going to enthusiastically support what the electorate, through their legislators, decides is the path forward and the law. During the campaign she will have no trouble facing down that lying corrupt fool we have at the moment. The fact that those who want America to be an oligarchy do not support her is a good sign.
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Excuse me but who was the top fund raiser?
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@Bob Kavanagh
You're playing directly into the Bernie Bro stereotype - all grievance all the time.
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@Bob Kavanagh
Donald Trump.
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@Cousy And a legitimate grievance Bernie Bros have --- and I don't count myself in that group. The media's bias for Warren is so extreme that it is shocking. I have seen nothing like it since they fell in love with Obama in 2008. Until very recently, Bernie was either leading Warren or in a virtual tie with her in almost all polls, but you would never have known it because his name was rarely mentioned. If so, just to comment on how disheveled he is, or how his message is not resonating this year (in spite of the polls showing the opposite). What kind of spell has Warren cast on the media? I don't get it. I'm not at all sure Warren can beat Trump. She will be easily labeled and stereotyped. Biden is now being dismissed as Bernie has been. The only question to most of the media is when will Warren overtake Biden. Of course, this all becomes self-fulfilling prophesy. Please learn to recognize your biases and strive for fairness in your reporting.
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Warren will be the next President of the United States.
Pete for VP
Harris as Attorney General
Biden and Bernie as Wizards
I like Elizabeth Warren. But I deeply worry that none of her Democratic opponents have yet challenged or fully vetted her progressive policy initiatives. Excitement is great, but how is she going to pay for her plans? She has generally ducked the question. A wealth tax sounds enticing, but in reality, few nations that have tried it have been successful at raising large sums of revenue. I see no reason to believe that the wealthy in our nation will allow themselves to be taxed without first trying to shield as much of their wealth by moving it off-shore. The Republicans are lying in wait to attack her plans. And I am not so sure that if she is the nominee, that her “plans” will survive the onslaught.
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@Mark
How will we pay for the Air Force? With taxes, the same way we pay for everything government does.
How to *fairly and wisely* assess taxes is a legitimate question for all candidates, but it's not really related to one's priorities on the spending side. One might agree with a candidate's spending proposals, or their revenue proposals, or both, or neither. Best to keep the questions distinct.
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@Mark
“The Republicans are lying in wait to attack her plans.”
Yes. If anyone’s curious what that might look like, google “Boston Herald Elizabeth Warren” and read the commentaries. And keep in mind Massachusetts Republicans are a very muted version of the species that exists in Washington.
At some point the sugar high around the progressive movement will fade when voters remember the Electoral College and the fact that even if Democrats keep the House and take the Senate, they’re still going to have to get these plans past Democrats from red districts. It was hard enough to get them agree to consider impeaching Trump, even with everything he’s done. This isn’t over yet.
What's not to like about Elizabeth Warren? She's a wonderful human being, and is very very smart. She understands that the Government actually has the job of delivering services to its citizens, helping people, and protecting the vulnerable from predatory practices of capitalism.
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Happy to see progressive ideas and big money out of politics winning! That said, sock of headlines and media outlets being unfair to Bernie. If it had been Biden or Warren with 25+ million and over 1 million unique donations, both of which are firsts and huge milestones this primary, it would have been "Warren/Biden crush Bernie making this a 2 person race. How about giving Bernie positive headlines for once and praise the movement he has helped build and shifted us away from big money in politics being king.
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Warren is for real. She has become a formidable candidate. It is good to see a woman rise to the top. Win or lose she has become a leader in the Democratic Party and a genuine force for change.
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My secret hope is that Sanders and Warren have a pact that if they both emerge as clear leaders that the eventual clear winner will select the other as their VP. Imagine a Warren - Sanders White House? Or a Sanders - Warren White House. Either way a fabulous combination. And the VP can always run for P in four years if it's even necessary. What a ticket, eh?
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@Donna V Never going to happen, neither would accept the do nothing, ribbon cutting VP job. Secretary of State or Chief of Staff would be great.
Go Elizabeth Go, she needs to up her support from the African American community and a way to do that would be to get Corey Booker on the ticket sooner rather than later. Two tough, well spoken ground breaking candidates that know how to get things done for the FUTURE (not the past) of this country and not cower in the face of Trumpian politics.
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@Neil
Not sure Booker's cozy ties with big pharma and charter schools would mesh well with Warren's platform.
Also, Booker isn't polling well among Black people: he was at 3% (behind Buttigieg!) in South Carolina.
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If fundraising is a sign of a campaign's rise as the story's lede states, then Warren is in kindergarten compared to Trump, who raised $45 million.
And before you dismiss this differential as simply the Republican 1%, I'd suggest reading Thomas Edsall's recent column, "The Changing Shape of the Parties Is Changing Where They Get Their Money: Trump leads among small donors. Democrats now get plenty of support from the wealthy, with predictable consequences."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/opinion/trump-fundraising-donors.html
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True that Trump raised more than Warren but I imagine the picture changes when there’s one Democrat. Warren and Sanders combined for about $50 million; the top four candidates combined for about 85 million in the 3rd quarter.
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How cool and effective it would be if the Dem contributions narrative were presented as what it really is: Dems vs Reps. On the Reps side is the highly publicized combined total for Trump and the RNC. On the Dems side is the fragmented reporting of seven contenders' collections, so far: several Dem candiates have yet to report, and the DNC has also not yet reported. So the real picture is 125 combined million Rep vs 112.6 combined million Dem...with Dem numbers not final yet. This is a stronger framing, expressive of the real fight. And it shows the public's active backing is nearly equal on both sides, despite not all the Dem numbers being in.
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Encouraging news.
Another reason Sanders needs to pack it in and get out of the way, as if his health complications this week were not sufficient reason to quit. He has no chance, and the Dems need to consolidate focus, the sooner the better.
Did Sanders learn nothing after wasting so much time pulling focus away from Hillary? Sanders may have vision, but on this point he is shortsighted.
Warren / Buttigieg in 2020!
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This is scary, the dems just ran a women in the last election who lost, so why put a women at the head of the ticket, who is even farther left.
Hillary had baggage but was palatable in some areas.
Warren is promising everything to everyone without counting the costs.
And those who make less then than $1M but more than $100K can see what coming.
Everyone says they start with the 1%, but rolling up on the 1% and cutting money from military or some other target will not be enough.
The corporations particularly tech already have a customer base around the world, so they can pay or choose to move elsewhere.
So then they will come for the money in that next tax group down, who are the ones that build small business, are trying to send their children to good schools to study STEM, are a large group that include many Indians, Chinese and other Asian families. I would really venture that they are the brain trust of the United States right now. These people can also leave so be careful what you wish for.
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Joe Biden just finished a fund-raising swing through San Francisco. Two events, one at DiFi's house in Pacific Heights (SWANKY!). Minimum $1k entrance fee, more if you wanted face time with the candidate. No open events to meet the voters from the cheap seats.
Sorry, but this act has gone stale. This is not a guy who's going to rally the Party next year. He's going to be too busy explaining why his son's use of the Biden name wasn't illegal, just reprehensible. Hope he gets his usual back of the pack finish in Iowa so we can all move on to someone serious about changing Washington.
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Trump supporters and Republicans are attacking Warren with "her promises are impossible to achieve. I find it funny that they are not focusing on the promises that Trump has absolutely failed to produce. Let's go with the biggies. I will build a wall and Mexiceo will pay for it. failure. I will get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something better, universal coverage and coverage for pre-excisting conditions. Zippo. I am the master of the deal and I will pass a fantastically yuge infrastructure plan and rebuild our roads, bridges ect. Nothing. Trade wars are easy to win and I will bring China to heal. Whoopsie! I will bring the deficit under control. Off by a trillion. My tax bill. his one major achievement, will be revenue neutral. A trillion off the mark. US Steel will open 6 NEW plants, bringing so many great jobs. US Steel re-opened portions of a excisting plant. I have solved the North Korean problem, they will not have nukes! Love letters from Kim, NK still forging ahead. Farm bankruptcies at a record level. And there is more. Trump will find a scapegoat for everyone of his failures but the buck stops at his desk. He made fantastic promises and did not deliver. Trump defenders tell me which of these promises he did deliver on.
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I really hope she is our first woman President. She’s honest,smart,organized and sane. I think whoever becomes President should change some laws on the campaigns. They’re way too long and cost too much money. All the candidates are constantly emailing me for money. It’s ridiculous and time for serious change. The money spent by ALL the Presidential candidates could be put to much better use improving the lives of voters instead of begging voters for money daily.
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Positive liberty is a term not straightforward to understand.
Lincoln possessed it and used it to help make people aware of the evils of permitting people to own other people. MacArthur possessed it and used it to prepare for battles in a manner that reduced casualties by as many as 4 to 5 times that of other commanders' battles.
An excellent example is her often reported statement about the fairness of increasing the share of taxes paid by the ultra rich:
"There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there–good for you.
But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory.
You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea–God Bless! Keep a Big Hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along".
Great people are able to use positive liberty to accomplish great things for the people they govern and given the chance, I believe that Ms. Warren may well prove herself worthy to be a member of that group.
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I like Elizabeth. I think a Warren/Buttigieg would be an amazing team. Not sure America is ready but these are two powerhouse candidates for different reasons. Vote Blue no matter who.
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If Warren wins the nomination, I will hold my nose and vote for her. I am disgusted by her claim of Native American heritage to advance her academic career. Can't we do better?
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Oh come on, nit-picking like this is so silly and useless. Can we not over-look a faux pas, of which she has acknowledged and apologized for publicly, and give her great credit for all of the plans she has to help our country be a democracy Of The People, For The People and By The People?! I think she shows great courage and sincere empathy, not to mention a whip-smart intelligence to fault her for anything like that claim.
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@Mary do you have any proof that she did that? Her employers have stated that she did not. You have information that they do not have?
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There is absolutely no evidence that she claimed Native American heritage to advance her career or that it made any difference. She says that she was proud of her Cherokee heritage and there is no reason to disbelieve her.
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The ranking by donations and the energy spent raising money wasteful and depressing. Let’s end this horserace nonsense by taking the money out of politics, dropping expected norms of behavior, adding strict laws with enforcement to curtail corruption. Let’s learn and improve from this Trump experience.
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Warren's support from centrists,(who actually determine who wins elections) is very weak, and extremely weak support from people of color in the Democratic Party. To many she seems superficially leftist but inauthentic (NB who lack of support from African Americans). Elizabeth's Warren's campaign style, similar to that of Bernie, hyperactive, seemingly impulsive and explosive, does not appeal to most voters in the general electorate.
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@David She’s polling well in your state right now.
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She does not have “extremely weak” support from POC. You would be surprised by how many Americans struggle to pay for expensive for-profit health care and high interest student loans. Most American families want and need Medicare for All and free college education.
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If fundraising is a sign of a campaign's rise as the story's lede states, then Warren is in the basement compared to Trump, who raised $45 million.
And before you dismiss this differential as simply the Republican 1%, I'd suggest reading Thomas Edsall's recent column, "The Changing Shape of the Parties Is Changing Where They Get Their Money: Trump leads among small donors."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/opinion/trump-fundraising-donors.html
Who is the serious threat to Trump's reelection?
Who is Trump bribing other countries to dig up dirt on?
Not Warren!
He doesn't even bother to call her "Pocahantas" anymore.
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look at the graph! Yes, Warren’s increase is a big story, as is Bernie’s total. But the real story here is Yang, who went from 2.8 in Q2 to 10 MILLION DOLLARS in Q3 at 25 bucks a pop. Keep ignoring, dismissing and poking fun at him, New York Times. America will keep falling in love. You nominate Warren if you want to WIN the culture war and win the election by turning out the base. (this idea has its merits as it would be just and beautiful to see Individual 1 crushed) You nominate Yang if you want OUT of the culture war because that might be the best thing for America, and think you can win the election by peeling off disaffected Trump supporters/moderates/libertarians etc. (who are NOT going to vote for Warren). I wish them both luck, but prefer both Yang’s policies and tone, and favor his general election chances.
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Warren is the right person for the moment. She's going to crush Trump (or Pence, or whoever) and she will be a kind, moral, and effective leader who will bring integrity back to the White House.
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Go Elizabeth go!! You're my choice to clean house on all this corruption!
Just look at the financial industry saying they'll withhold money if you're the nominee... ha!
Run, run, run!
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Title should be:
Bernie overtakes Warren in Q3 fund-raising.
Because that's the actual story.
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Elizabeth Warren is a bubble waiting to burst. She is being propped up by the DNC and the liberal media but ground level enthusiasm for her is tepid at best.
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How do you know what the “ground level enthusiasm” for her is?
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Why isn’t the headline that Sanders outpaced Warren? Isn’t that the story? Or that Sanders AND Warren capture the main monetary haul? It’s headlines like this one that account for the persistent (and I’d argue warranted) charge of anti-Sanders bias.
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Ms. Warren is our next President.
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Elizabeth Warren cannot bear Donald Trump. Sorry.
Now we don't have to worry about Hunter.
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Sorry, I don't vote for people who claim to be a member of another race just to get a job.
Oh...wait! She's 1/1024 of a percent native American. Stop...
The idea that Warren does not take wealthy donor money is an outright lie, and the bias Times knows it.
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Yay warren!
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Warren & The Mayor 2020!!!
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Way to bury the lead about Bernie topping donations for this quarter and only making a headline about him trying to start conspiracy theories about what his current condition is. Well done! Keep showing your bias so we know which politician your fair and unbiased reporting is supporting!!
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Interesting that Trump had more donations in that time period than all of the Democratic candidates combined. And he hasn’t even started his formal campaign yet. So much for claims he’s lost his base.
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@JrpSLm
Who claimed he lost his base?
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@Max Deitenbeck Several news sources. Google “Trump losing his base”. You’ll see them.
One can only HOPE the American people can decompress enough from the impeachment swamp to READ some of Ms. Warren's policy statements on the kitchen table economic issues that will effect their lives. On almost every front, from taxes to job stimulus and infrastructure investment, to environmental protection, to demilitarization to regulation of the investment banks and payday loan sharks, she has DETAILED specific proposals that show how much each will COST and what the expected BENEFITS are. Any CEO worth their salt would have to appreciate the very clear Cost-Benefit analysis of getting profit motives out of healthcare, education and criminal justice system, and moving away from fossil fuels to non-polluting, renewable sources. And most lunch-pail Americans would begin to see the economic disparity where taxing the wealth of 7,000 families would provide life saving or easing benefits for 300 million hard working Americans. The numbers are overwhelming - we've tipped further toward plutocracy than 1789 France or 1917 Russia. We can cede democracy to 7,000 corporate kings who would be our feudal masters or depose them ...... by ANY means necessary. In a nation with >300 million guns, Senator Warren's blueprints may just save capitalism from its most blatant excesses.
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@Steve Fortuna Ms. Warren may have detailed the cost but she hasn't detailed where the money is going to come from except taxing the rich. Even if you tax the rich at 100%, you still wouldn't have enough to pay for her proposals. If you think capitalism is the problem, let me know where socialism has worked even once in history. I'll save you the google search: it hasn't. Socialism hasn't worked in one country in the history of mankind because eventually you run out of other people's money. Furthermore, the government is horribly inefficient and wasteful with the money they collect. Taxing wealthy people would not "provide" anything to 300 million hard working people. Taxing wealthy people would provide more money for government to spend on itself and people who work in the government. When Reagan cut taxes, tax collections nearly doubled because people are better at utilizing their own money than government is at utilizing their money.
It's interesting that over the course of both quarters (2&3), Buttigieg raised as much as Sanders and Warren... and millions more than Biden. Biden is simply not keeping up with the leaders of the pack.
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@big picture taker
He is old news. It's his third run at the White House. Americans didn't go for him before and they won't now.
Warren all the way!!!!!!
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@big picture taker,
Actually, I watched an interview, this morning, where a major donor said he had called the Biden Campaign to offer to assist with fundraisers and donation bundling, a few weeks ago, and NOBODY from the campaign ever got back to him.
Biden is basically hiding from the public and running a grossly incompetent campaign, and hoping that goodwill in the African-American Community and his big starting lead will carry him to the finish line. As long as he's Top 2 in Iowa and New Hampshire, and wins in South Carolina, he'll say he's right where he wants to be.
Personally, I think he's running a TERRIBLE campaign, and Elizabeth Warren will eat his lunch, but I also think that, even if she's popular in forums like this one, she is FAR too left/socialist for most Americans, and will lose, probably badly, to Trump.
If Trump is going to be defeated, someone like a Michelle Obama, or a non-political public figure, like an Oprah, needs to get into the race. I don't think ANY of the current bunch has a realistic chance of defeating Trump (cue all the insults here).
@big picture taker
When all the dust has settled, Mayor Pete will be the nominee.
Biden and Sanders will fall by the wayside. Warren will have to confront the reality that America will never elect a leftist.
President Pete.
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Elizabeth Warren and Sanders seem similar, but they are not.
Sanders:
- Has 40 years of experience fighting for the rights of the common people including civil rights
- Is a socialist who doesn't care for corporate welfare and has consistently stood by his views
- Is only a few years older than Warren
Elizabeth Warren:
- Was a Republican turned Democrat
- Has a short history on policy accomplishments in Congress
- Believes in the capitalism
- Will say anything to get elected such as using her native American ethnicity.
Unfortunately, Sanders will be perceived as too ill and too old to be nominated. At the end of the day, either Sanders or Warren would be better than what we have for president now.
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@Hoping For Better bernie is not a socialist.
Like Warren, and me, he is a social democrat.
(Supporter since 1981)
@Hoping For Better
Wish all the democrats who diss Warren on the native american thing would stop making/creating a mountain out of a molehill.
I feel sad for the Warren donors who think she'll actually follow through with most of her progressive campaign pledges.
Warren is basically running on Sanders' 2016 platform (but chose to support HRC that year), and her recent overture to the Dem Party bosses strongly suggests that she'll be an "Obama Democrat": campaigning progressive (remember his 2008 advocacy for single payer?) but capitulating to Republicans and corporate interests at every opportunity.
If you want a clear indication of how corporate America fears Sanders but not Warren, just look at how the corporate-media vilifies Sanders but gives Warren, who has essentially the same platform, much positive coverage.
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@Ed Watters Are you joking? Did you miss Zuckerberg shaking in his boots yesterday?
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@Ed Watters Not accurate and you don’t have a crystal ball to say whether Senator Warren will or will not act on her pledges. As a Senator, she’s kept close to the wind on her promises, and you seem to have missed the recent exchange with and about Facebook. What you can also check is that Warren has absolutely not know-towed to the corporate interests: that is simply made up. By all means, support Bernie Sanders, but don’t make stuff up about Elizabeth Warren. It’s not “warranted,” all puns considered.
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@Ed Watters When I hear Mark Zuckerberg, Sheldon Adelson, Jamie Dimon and Jeff Bezos in a tizzy regarding a WARREN presidency, I know something is going RIGHT for the American middle class. I love Bernie's passion, but if you can have passion AND intellectual gravitas, I'll take Ms. Warren's studied legal & economic experience and her antipathy she has after seeing her father lose their home to foreclosure because banks looked out only for their quarterly results without considering SOCIETAL costs.
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I generally vote Republican for low taxes. But Warren has exhibited deep understanding of the issues. In the salary range we are, I expect my taxes to go up. But I am willing to support her. She is not an establishment candidate and Wall Street is only afraid of her because she will shake things up. She may the first President of the people in a long time. I did vote for Trump, but I have come to realize it is all about his and his family's benefit. I was beyond shocked when the tax reductions were made permanent for families leaving an estate above $22 million. All other tax cuts were temporary. So yes, I donated to Warren's campaign and I will vote for her at the primaries. She is brilliant and articulate and a genuine person. I am fine with Pete as well. He too is very good. Most people support Biden just because he is put up as the only one who can beat President. But he is more of the same. It is time to feel proud with a woman President!
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Educate the people around you (friends and family) on the issues in the country and what is going wrong. We need awareness in the country and every effort counts.
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@Ben
Republicans lower taxes but usually won't take the heat for the required services, or in the case of Kansas, they do, and it turns out the consequences are pretty dire and end up getting reversed when the damage becomes clear.
Democrats tend to follow a higher tax/higher service model, and they way the economies in the "blue" places are pulling away from the economies in the "red" places over the last 30 years, it has become the higher tax/higher service model also leads to higher growth and more wealth for everyone.
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@Ben Good for you, man. Tell your friends to do the same.
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"Both Ms. Warren and Mr. Sanders have sworn off private fund-raisers with wealthy donors, yet they announced larger totals for the quarter than rivals who are relying on the traditional fund-raising circuit in addition to online giving."
But as the NYTimes reported Warren got all of her wealthy donor fundraising done the year before announcing her candidacy. And she is on record as saying she will once again begin taking big money if she gets the nomination.
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@grusilag Your point being? The lion's share of her primary campaign donations have come from the grassroots. She did use senate funds to launch her campaign, and I'm sure some of that came from wealthy donors. I don't see that as a black mark against her. She decided to enter the race and during this primary stage focus on building a grassroots movement behind her campaign (which is the only way she can push through half of her plans if she becomes President). If she becomes the Democratic presidential candidate, I don't care if she goes back to asking wealthy donors for contributions as she will need that to fight Republicans. Knowing she cares enough to cultivate average Americans at this stage (and is savvy enough to realize that base will push her agenda) matters more to me than how she raises funds for the general campaign. Personally I think she is running a brilliant campaign that puts Biden to shame, and gives the other candidates a run for their money.
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@grusilag Do you have a source for that "quote" or are you repeating another debunked Fox talking point?
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@Steve Fortuna Hi Steve, that quote is from Feb. interview of Warren on Chris Hayes' show on MSNBC. Here's a link to an article and video:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/26/warren_will_forgo_big_money_donors_in_primary_but_not_general_election_i_do_not_believe_in_unilateral_disarmament
Trump developed this dislike to Obama and so going after anyone connected to his administration. In 2016, it was Hillary Clinton and now it is Biden. Trump has contributed to Biden’s inability to raise the money and soon will be out of contest. Sanders made invaluable contributions to change the narrative in favor of poor and middle class. But, he will soon drop as more and more have second thoughts about his health. I am sure he will do well, but I think it is about time that Sanders handover the baton to Elizabeth Warren who will carry through his agenda much more effectively. In 2016, I contributed to Sanders and I will be contributing to Elizabeth Warren. She is an awesome candidate comes along once in a generation.
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Bernie has always been a big fund raiser, but he looks increasingly unlikely to win the nomination and presidency. Ditto Pete. Similarly, take Elizabeth's fund raising with a grain of salt. They do not represent donors from a broad cross section of the electorate necessary to win the electoral college next November. For a Democrat running for president, Elizabeth Warren's support among people of color is not statistically different from zero.
Look at Warren's poll numbers among Democrats in South Carolina. Her following among centrist Democrats and independents is diminutive, very slight. Not likely to win the electoral college next November.
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@David
Democrats were never going to win S. Carolina anyway, so why are we spending so much time discussing it?
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Great news! Rock on Elizabeth!
However, I continue to think that neither the primary nor the general election will be determined by money. Clinton vastly out-raised Trump after all.
Bernie's small donor base wasn't enough to get him the nomination last time, and the current polls indicate that he has been unable to translate his financial success into polling success. (Much like Howard Dean.)
Money helps, but is not the end game.
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@Cousy "Bernie's small donor base." You know he's the fastest candidate in history to exceed 1 million unique donors, right?
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@rnba88
I think he meant small donor as in small amounts donated, but lots of donors
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@rnab88
I mean base of small donors. I know that his donor base is the largest in the field.
Now if he could only translate that into votes. His polling numbers haven’t budged in 4 months. Elizabeth’s have climbed steadily.
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The fact that she and Sanders did it with small donors, whereas candidates like Buttigieg and Biden (and Booker and Harris) took any and all money that came their way, speaks ever more to how meaningful these hauls are. It's one thing to raise a lot of money when you're throwing $2,000-per-plate fundraisers where political/economic elites rub shoulders. It's another entirely to get people living paycheck to paycheck to come out of pocket and support a campaign. Establishment dems have scorned and blown this voter base off in the past. This time, it's clear that they do some at their own peril.
The Republican party is going to have to dome some serious soul-searching as a party in order to survive once Trumpism runs its course. The only way to keep them competitive is if the Democrats manage to go to war with their most active and supportive constituents.
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@DataCrusader Whoa there! Don't drive a wedge between Dems who live paycheck to paycheck and those who are better off. There's no upside to that, at least not for the Dems.
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@C. Hammer She's not driving any wedge, the wedge, in terms of unequal representation, was already placed there by the Democratic establishment, in only courting and mostly catering to the $2,000-a-place Democrats whenever they needed to seek re-election. What I believe she is pointing out is that the great success that Sanders and Warren have had in small-dollar, grassroots fundraising, has proven that the Democrats will no longer be able to depend solely on the wealthiest in their parties to help them get elected or-re-elected for much longer. Right now, the staying power is with the paycheck-to-paycheck folks it seems, contributing $5 every month. It's minimal, but it's effective on a wide enough scale, and the difference in sum between the Biden/Buttigeig and Sanders/Warren quarterly, fund-raising hauls in this election so far, are increasingly showing this.
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@C. Hammer
Then don’t buy votes and expect special one on one treatment. That wedge was done with citizens united and corruption by the actions of those with wealth.
A wealthy person donating without expectation or desire with the rest of us meager amounts is all that is needed. Special treatment and ignoring our votes is the wedge that was created by those abusing our political system with their wealth.
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When she came to Jackson, MS months ago, I proudly waited for one of those selfies. My same-sex partner and I also got a selfie with her. She was gracious, kind, funny, and full of life. I left feeling inspired. I’m rooting for Mayor Pete as well, but I think this is Warren’s time, and I am ordering yard signs, t-shirts, and giving her money online. She’s going to break my bank, but I don’t care. I need to believe in a brighter future for this country, and she is the one for me and my family.
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@M
May I add that she is running on an anti-corruption platform which thrills me. This is the time to root out corruption.
I also waited two hours to selfie with her in NYC. She was warm, clear-eyed and engaged with me for the few seconds that she could spare. I waited on the side afterwards and watched. Each person of the thousands that waited for her, she greeted individually. She is effective, warm, and caring about each person. She did this for four straight hours.
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@M
I'm waiting for the primary. Warren is one of my favorites, but I'll support whoever gets the Democratic nomination.
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@M ... @Boswell... the article forgot to mention the $10mm she 'carried over' from her senate campaign -- that is how she forgoes big donors. Add in her $12mm net worth and she is as authentic as Trump's hair. Please... don't believe (and spread) the hype!
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Since Warren "founded" the CFPB, I've always thought she was great, and that she should have headed it.
Further, with her abilities and her continuous potential policies, for fairness for the average person, in my opinion she is the best of the lot.
It's about time that that inequality started to decrease for the rest of us with more fairness, and that the wealthiest started to pay their fair share.
After all, we live here too!
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If We the People want a government that works for us, we need to keep stepping up. I'm delighted to be one of the people who did. I love her plans, her story, her years- long work in the trenches on behalf of me versus the banks, the fossil fuel companies, the pharmaceutical companies etc. I also loved seeing, for the first time in my life, 15,000 people taking in the words of a woman on a beautiful day by the International Peace Fountain in Seattle. While waiting to buy some EW buttons, I visited with a little girl while her mother talked to the vendor. The girl excitedly told me that her mom was buying her a t-shirt that said "I persisted". She explained that when she got tired doing a project near the end of the school year, her mom urged her to persist - and she did!!!
There were lots of men in the audience. I was delighted to see that too. She is for the Average American.
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Elizabeth Warren is the right choice to take back our country and make it work for all citizens.
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Sorry, but Biden just cant do it. You can see it. He is being a good soldier but no matter how much he and the establishment DNC want it, its gonna fail.
Sorry, Joe.
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Mostly, the fund-raising numbers are quite similar to the polls. The exception is Buttigieg with lots of money but low polling numbers. I keep reading these articles hoping to learn where his money is coming from, but no insights have been offered. NYT reporters: how about some help here?
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@upstate666 I have continuously donated to Buttigieg because, in my long life, I have never been more inspired by a candidate. If it's not his time, I hope for a Warren/Buttigieg ticket.
I never donate during the primary season, but I'm a monthly donor for Warren and proudly rock my gear. I need to do this because it helps keep hope alive that America will have a president who cares about us. Warren is passionate, knowledgeable, indefatigable, and deeply concerned about the American people. She's the best candidate for president in my lifetime. Let's win this.
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@Dottie I am with you and Senator Warren Dottie. Let’s go do this.
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I am sure she has taken money from corporations. She is a liberal, but she is far from being able to build the movement that Sanders has built
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@Tess
I’m pretty sure she took corporate money for her senate campaign. Very savvy. They filled her coffers, and now she can stay away from them and claim purity.
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@Tess She may have taken some money from corporations, but she does not take money from PACs or lobbyists, she disavows SuperPACs altogether, and she does not hold any of those bigwig, big money fundraisers. Most of her money is raised from small individual donations or the average couldn't be the $26 reported in this article.
I voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary, but I was so disappointed and disturbed by the reluctance both by him and many of his supporters to then stand behind Clinton as the nominee that I will certainly not vote for him in the 2020 primary. In the event that he becomes the 2020 nominee, however, I will--unlike many of his supporters in 2016--still vote for him, because frankly the most important thing is to get Trump and his team of crooks out of there.
Her and Bernie are both being disingenuous about how much their plans will cost and how they will pay for them. She will lose Wisconsin Michigan Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania and the Democratic House majority.
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@Rick G First of all, it’s “she” not “her.” And she’s been explicit about how to pay for her programs, even if you have not been paying attention. We are more than a year away from the election, but you are already sure you know the results. How do you do at the race track? At Lotto? At the stock market? Your dead certainty must have made you very rich.
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You haven’t been listening. Every study that has been done indicates that Medicare for All would be less expensive than for profit health care, the most expensive health care on earth.
Sanders has explained free community college for all can be paid for with a small tax on Wall Street transactions.
Why can’t Americans have what citizens of every other first world nation have had for decades?
Writing off student debt would spur our economy. That should be obvious
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It needs to be pointed out that combined the Democratic candidates raised only 8 million less, than the combined total of Trump and the GOP.
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@Heidi I just finished with the same addition exercise and it should be reported as such that the Dem cash haul is only 8 mil less than the Repub cash haul. Once the Dem candidate is declared, it should be an interesting funding race
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@Conroy
DJT didn’t raise the money, the campaign and the RNC did.
It wasn’t $150M, it was $125M
#MAGA isn’t remotely happening.
Three statements - three errors. I can see why you’re aligned with the Republicans/DJT.
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I would like to see the total number of donors everyone has more often. That is the nations biggest poll, and Biden's weakest number.
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She is a very smart woman-- but not shrewd enough to beat Trump. His base will shun her ideas.
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@Sue His base isn't voting for any democrat, Sue.
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@Dan B There are people who voted for Obama and then switched to Trump; you have to try to depolarize voters and get as many on the other side to switch...
Warren should take this chance to get rid of Biden and take the lead.
But she won't. She does not have enough support from regular folk, most of us think she's so far to the left she fell off the map already.
Biden is toast. She should have taken this chance, but I am sure she won't.
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@AutumnLeaf I am regular folk and I support her.
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@AutumnLeaf I think she’s too smart and too elegant to press in this situation. Biden is doing a good job of self-destructing on his own, so why should Elizabeth Warren make herself a target by jumping on that trampoline. The beauty of Elizabeth Warren is that she is super-smart, and knows her stuff cold, but also knows when to pull the punches. Remember, she is a female candidate and as such, she knows that you don’t hit a man when he’s already down. Go Elizabeth Warren.
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Do you mean “regular folk” like their expensive for profit health care! Regular folk like paying high monthly premiums, high copays and high deductibles? Regular folk don’t mind going bankrupt or starting GoFundMes to pay for medical bills that their expensive for profit insurance won’t pay.
Oh and “regular folk” think it’s just fine that their children graduate college with high interest debt that will take a lifetime to discharge.
And of course breathing dirty air and drinking dirty water is good enough for the children of “regular folk”
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Why is the headline always about how much money each candidate raised.? Is there an implication that the one who raises the most will win? Why is it always about the money? How about the size of the crowds, the enthusiasm, numbers of volunteers, and of course, the candidates platforms. Seems more like a weekend b ox office report rather than the very important business of electing our public officials.
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Yang more than tripled his donations from Q2 to Q3. He almost raised as much as Harris. If the trajectories continue the same next quarter, he will have the most donations. Why the NYT continues to not even mention him in most articles is a real question to me? Because he is of Asian descent ? I do not know.
Warren/Bernie are my other favorite. Their positions are so close. Whoever gets the Democratic nomination will then become my favorite.
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Warren has emerged as the best candidate. She would be an exceptional President. I for one thoroughly hope she gets elected. Failing that, anyone but Trump.
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I wanted Warren as the Dem candidate in 2016. She would not have ignored the rust belt and insulted working people as HRC did, thereby losing the election. That said, Clinton did not lose because she is centrist. She lost for the reasons listed above. She lost the Middle.
I think that, in order to win, we must win back the Middle, where the most votes are up for grabs. The 2018 blue wave was done by winning the Middle.
I fear that, with her moving so much farther to the left than she was in 2016, Warren risks handing a huge gift to the GOP. Her proposals about decriminalizing border crossings, free health insurance for those cross the border, forced Medicare for all, relief of student loans, etc will energize the far left wing of the party at the risk of losing even more if the Middle. I am a lifelong liberal who thinks not only that these promises are bad politics but that they are questionable policy. When asked a simple question about tax increases associated with Medicare for all, she refuses to answer in dodging language that rivals the odious Trump. Why doesn’t she simply say: “yes, taxes will go up in the middle class, to be more than offset by lower premiums”?
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@Franco51
Why is Senator Warren held to a higher standard?
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@Franco51 That's what I always wondered too - all she has to say is that, overall, people's costs will go down even if taxes are raised a bit, but the much lower premiums will more than make up for that. Using actual numbers to compare scenarios would really resonate with voters too.
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@Tedj
Don’t you think that we should hold our Dem candidates to a higher standard than Trump?
I think they should hold themselves to that higher standard.
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Love Elizabeth Warren. Voting for her come election time.
Whomever the chosen Democrat is, I will cast my vote for them. However, I am sincerely hoping it's Elizabeth. I like her energy, her fair mindedness, her intelligence and her strength.
Team Warren!
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I have this idea that the Warren campaign and the Biden campaign are conducting a conspiracy that goes like this. Vice President Biden does not really want to be President. Rather he supports Elizabeth Warren. But he and Senator. Warren recognize that Donald Trump is going to focus on the front runner with every fiction he can come up with. So Biden has agreed to be the distraction by allowing the false narrative of he and his son somehow being parties to corruption in Ukraine. While President Trump rants on Vice President Biden, Senator Warren is left alone to get her message out and build out her base. Then, next year, at the last possible minute, Biden will withdraw from the race, allowing Warren to claim the nomination.
If I'm wrong, it would make a great screenplay
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@Larry Wow, I think that’s a big stretch. I kinda like the idea you float but I don’t believe it for a single second. Biden really wants this, even as he becomes less and less convincing as a candidate. He’s essentially Trump-ultra-light. He’s thinking like a Republican as in “the Dems want a return to norms, and I am Mr. AllNormalPrivilegedWhiteGuy with a tragic personal story.” He could be Mitt Romney for all their differences. The Democratic Party has moved on from Joe Biden. Hey, you guys are terrific, but you are no longer the only ones out there.
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And all without soliciting bribes from billionaires.
I've contributed $50 to her campaign on a recurring monthly basis. I'd prefer public campaign financing, but this is a start!
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Not quite. She Took Her Bribes Early On And Will Take More If She Is Nominated
When Bernie and Liz make their deal, she will have access to his list. As a team, they are unbeatable, way surpassing Biden.
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Bernie needs to graciously bow out and lend his support to Warren, the sooner the better. At this point he’s serving his own ego and not the needs of his country.
There will be a place for him in this new administration, but it isn’t as president.
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@Chickpea - how about VP? That's my secret hope here.
@Chickpea
Warren needs to graciously bow out and lend her support to Sanders, the sooner the better. At this point she's serving her own ego and not the needs of the country.
There will be a place for her in the this new administrations, but it isn't as president.
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I would be interested in knowing the gender balance of Warren’s supporters versus Sanders supporters.
I bet that Sanders supporters are overwhelmingly male.
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I am female and I support Bernie.
I think the donor count is more important than the dollar count. Old saying: put your money where your mouth is. The many small donations show these candidates have captured voters' interest and admiration. And let's remember, folks: any of the mentioned candidates would be better presidents in their sleep than what we've got now!
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I send a small amount with all requests. With a democratic Senate, Warren has the potential to really change the corruption in our "system". Time for a real change.
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Bear with me...so Bernie was under in 2Q and is now tops in 3Q. So that 1- shows more ground made and 2- TOP fundraiser and 3- 1.4 million individual voters. Worth covering here, perhaps as the lead...it almost seems like...momentum -> Bernie.
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Here’s the appropriate comparison NYT appears to have missed highlighting: combined, Democratic candidates collectively raised over $117 million, versus a sitting first term president raising $125 million. That’s only a marginal difference of 6%. And, the democratic candidate slate has yet to significantly coalesce. At best, it’s almost a dead heat in fundraising...but I’d say momentum is on the side of the democrats. In particular, none of the democratic candidates are facing possible impeachment.
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Donald Trump raised $150 million over the same period.
#MAGA
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@Conroy As if money is what can make America great? We thought it was our principles.
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@Conroy He's literally the incumbent president, so I would hope he raised a large amount. That number also includes money raised by the RNC. And he's (effectively) the only one running on the Republican ticket.
This is not REMOTELY comparable to what Democrats are raising.
Nice try, though.
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Money alone says nothing of on the ground support. MAGA polling terribly in spite of the larger big donor base. See? Money and people power will win this. Big donors want money to deliver but without broad support chances far from certain.
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I was there last night and I volunteered to work the event.
She's very inspiring to see and hear in person. Because of Warren's humble beginnings she connects with the average American exceptionally well.
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@Speedo It's not just her humble beginnings. She pretty adept at putting her ideas into words people can easily understand.
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I gave to Warren this quarter and I have never donated during Primary season before. Her knowledge, insights and plans are what tipped it for me.
That said, I will donate to the Dem candidate no matter who it is.
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@YReader
I too gave to Warren this quarter, the first time I have ever contributed $ to a political candidate. Since she apparently used up all her campaign funds from the previous quarter, I expect I will give to her again, after the next debate. But I will also contribute during the general election to whoever the Dem candidate is for President. I see it as part of my civic responsibility.
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@YReader
Your last sentence is your most important.
If we all do that, if we don’t sulk or stay home or vote third party even if our fave isn’t the nominee, we’ll win
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Funny how NY Times writes an article about how Warren "almost" raised as much money as Sander's and that shows how strong she is, but didn't write anything about how Sander's brought in so much in donations to begin with (More than Warren!). Obviously Warren is the media darling now, but that just further confirms that Bernie is the better choice.
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@Mack Hun, the fact that Sanders brought in a lot to begin with doesn't help his case - it only shows that Warren's been able to go from 0 to 100 over the course of the year, whereas Sanders (whom I love by the way and would happily support if he got the nom) has stagnated.
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@Mack
The NYT did devote an entire article to Sanders' 3Q fundraising. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraising.html?module=inline
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@Mack
I donated to both. Don’t bet on one good horse when you can bet on two.
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Ok, let's keep this simple.
A Warren, Buttigieg ticket, OR, a Buttigieg, Warren ticket. Works either way for me.
These two individuals are just so intelligent, concise, and detailed. It could be one of the best Administrations ever.
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@cherrylog754
Much as I like both of them, having no one of color on the ticket could be a grave error.
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@cherrylog754
I like Pete too, but Elizabeth will need a running mate that will appeal more directly to Black voters.
Honesty, I thought Biden was a great VP and it would be great if he could play that role again.
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@cherrylog754
I support Warren. In fact I’ve supported her here when many people were doubting that she had what it takes... in January 2019 (rolls eyes... you know who you are, folks!)
The Warren-Buttigieg supporters are in for a disappointment soon when Mayor Pete starts trying to distinguish himself from the pack - in order to boost his low poll numbers - by attacking other candidates.
He’s doing this dance right now where he’s criticizing opponents without being direct. I’m all for candidates making the distinctions clear amongst each other, but at least have the courage to be honest that’s what you’re doing.
Beto O’Rourke called Pete out perfectly when he responded to Pete’s dig at him: (Mayor Pete) “represents a kind of politics that is focused on poll testing and focus group driving and triangulating and listening to consultants.”
Pete’s waited too long for Biden to fall and make his move. Now he has to attack and his poll-tested political positions (if charitable, one might call them ‘centrist’) aren’t likely to enthuse anyone beyond his existing base.
I think Kamala, Stacey Abrams, Julian Castro, Andrew Gillum would make excellent VPs. (Gillum needs to be fully vetted though, there’s still a cloud in his past that he hasn’t completely quashed)
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The Grubby Business of Money. Warren has something approaching a political manifesto, Biden doesn't. That's the difference. For all that, it is Bernie who has captured the mood of the people !
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She is coming on like a freight train! Biden is wounded and Bernie will be fading. It’s time for us to rally around this authentic woman to be elected the first woman President of the United States!!
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@Boswell Hear hear!
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@Boswell... the article forgot to mention the $10mm she 'carried over' from her senate campaign -- that is how she forgoes big donors. Add in her $12mm net worth and she is as authentic as Trump's hair. Please... don't believe (and spread) the hype!
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Bernie is hardly fading. He raised more money than all of them.
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She's as fit and qualified for the job of US President as Trump was and is unfit and unqualified.
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They should just run together already.
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@Dubblay - Sanders and Warren? Heck, yes. Agreed.
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I never thought she would make it this far, and am enormously excited she has! Go Elizabeth Go!
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@Yes!!! Me too! Maybe the sign I have supporting her for President will still be in my yard a year from now!
While fundraising is a part of politics, it's a huge part of what is wrong with the system and why we are where we are with the officials we have. The emphasis the NYT puts on this information only exacerbates the problem. As if the candidate is only as good as how much money they raise. It'd be nice if what they campaign on and stood for was more important. But this is what capitalism gets, the best money can buy.
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@mrg
Or the worse money can buy.
@mrg
Don’t confuse small donors with big donors. In order to overturn money in politics we have to use their tool against them. Donate and get over it. Small donations won’t influence compared to big money donors who are buying votes. There is a difference and it is massive.
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Great to see Sanders and Warren doing well fundraising. But the ire of Wall Street towards any reform and the $125 million the GOP raised last week makes it clear that, while money is essential, Democrats can't win on money alone.
It's going to take grass-roots efforts of people in the streets organizing, canvassing, demonstrating, and obstructing GOP efforts to rig the vote to turn this country around. Si se puede!
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I gave to both the Warren and Sanders campaigns.
They are the only candidates I trust.
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@sugarcane
I have given to both the Warren and Bennett campaigns. He is smart, not flashy, has political experience as a senator for Colorado, is progressive, but not too scary for those people who have not voted but might vote for a democrat.
But really, ANYONE but Trump
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@sugarcane I gave to both Sanders and Warren. Still have soft spot for Bernie but I love Liz!
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I would so love to donate to Mrs. Warren, but I fear the ensuing onslaught of emails and ads.
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@Andy
She's not so bad. Bernie's campaign is relentless, but I guess it's working for him.
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@Andy Easy Simple steps to stay anonymous when giving online.
1] Create a 'burner' email address, i.e., hotmail or gmail
2] Logon from an incognito tab where your information is not passed to the site. Even better if you use a free cookie killer like 'Ghostery' but not necessary.
3] When entering credit card number use a fake first/last name, and street and city. The credit card processor checking looks only at the card number, street number, state and zip. Use your burner email address.
This way you will not receive postal mail or email from the campaign or any campaign. I do this with all charitable giving also.
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@Andy
Me too!
With Sanders medical setback the reality of the public attitude will place Warren in a strong position for the democratic nomination.
I agree with just about everything Bernie stands for but I’m afraid he’s exhausted himself into this heart condition.
At 70 years old, Warrens stamina and strategic planning show her to be supremely qualified for the presidency.
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My two favs are Warren and Harris. I know, strange combination; but I like them for different reasons. I don't necessarily dislike Biden or Sanders. But, come on now; if elected, Biden would be 78 and Sanders 80 by the time they took office. That's older than the average lifespan in the USA. Warren will be around 72 at that time, so I admit that she's no spring chicken either. But at least she's got a better chance of making it through her first term without dying of old age.
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@Patty O. I agree! My dream ticket would be Warren/Harris. They have different strengths that would complement each other quite well as Pres/VP.
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My preferences too, but admittedly only because I would love to watch Harris the prosecutor debate Trump.
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@Tom
Harris the prosecutor couldn't even debate Tulsi Gabbard. She's brittle.
Whew! Bernie takes it- AGAIN! Also, 1- individual donors? 2- Average amount of donation? 3- Where does she stand on donations in the general? Is this important? Yes, yes it is.
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My advice for Elizabeth Warren is that she not fight for people but work for people. When you do otherwise you set yourself up to have a group of people, also American citizens, who are enemies. Defining groups of people as enemies also creates a set of perceptual blinders between self and other that does not allow for thoughtful problem solving. Great leaders have known this.
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Fighting is hard work! And to think that the ethos of this next election for Democrats is not about putting up a fighter for working people, then I think you’ve missed the point.
We are in unusual times where the calling for this next candidate will be a “fighter” and not an Obama type (hope and change). This is bigger than Trump.
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@Barbara - I love that she says she is a fighter. That's what we need.
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@Barbara
But the people who have taken over the political system and the lion's share of the national wealth are the enemy. They have used their power to serve their narrow self interest AT THE EXPENSE of everyone else, not least, future generations.
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So she's against big money, but wants to become President by outspending everyone else? Interesting.
@Michael Livingston’s there's no contradiction here, despite your suggestion.
besides, do you know of a way of becoming president other than spending lots of money?
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@ Muchael Livingston
Spending money to get elected is the way it is in America. It is a necessity. You cannot get elected without spending tons of money.
Thank the Supreme Court for their Citizens United ruling in 2010 which has allowed corporations to spend money on electioneering communications (tv ads, etc) and directly advocate for the election OR defeat of candidates.
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@Michael Livingston’s
She cannily took big-donor money during her senate campaign and filled her coffers, and now can present herself as above such things.
Smart. Kinda duplicitous, but smart.
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Even as someone who vastly prefers Warren to Sanders, I find it odd that the headline frames the quarter's totals first around her. Sanders had the largest total, the largest gain, and the largest 6-month total.
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@JR that's meaningless though. the difference between her total and Sanders's is extremely small. focusing on who came first as opposed to the amounts themselves and how they compare to the rest of the pack would be very misleading.
@JR Sanders' numbers came out a few days ago. Warren's just came out. Hence the framing.
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The NY Times already reported Sanders' fundraising total in a separate article, with his $25.3 million in the headline. This report focuses on Warren's total.
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It's all about the money. Even when it's not about the money, it's about the money. And to think about all the wonderful benefits this money (and other candidates $) would bring if it was directed to solving critical social or environmental problems.
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@DC a few million dollars would make absolutely no difference to problems like economic inequality or global warming. these problems need a collective, that is political, solution. so people concerned with them should contribute to political campaigns that are likely to deal with global warming or inequality, rather than use their money to fight those problems directly.
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The combined fund raising totals of Sanders and Warren substantially exceed the results of other Democratic candidates. That clearly speaks to the appeal of their progressive messaging, and one can’t help but wonder about a preemptive outcome if Sanders’ health concerns tilt donors and voters in Warren’s direction.
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@Jon
We can't make assumptions about the reasons for why the donations are higher for Warren and Sanders, but here is one -
The fund totals are higher because their donors are mostly white, liberal and wealthier. The more moderate democrats might be poorer in general even though their numbers and their translation to votes is higher.
Maybe it is higher because their supporters are more motivated and idealistic.
@ Jon
Thank the 2010 Supreme Court Citizens United ruling which allows corporations to spend millions on electioneering communications to directly advocate for or against candidates.
What health concerns? The man got a routine procedure that most get in their 50’s and 60’s. If anything, the stents are a sign of phenomenal health. Please dispense with the concern trolling, there’s no need to ditch the best candidate working people have
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Once the numbers come on from all candidates, I would appreciate seeing an analysis for all Dems and for Trump. EG the number of donors, average donation, big donations, donations from particular industries etc. I’d like to understand who is bankrolling the various campaigns. And why.
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