Episode 5: The Land of Our Fathers, Part 1

Oct 04, 2019 · 23 comments
Andrea D. (Pennsylvania)
Do you have an update on the Provost family? I listened to their story when the 1619 series first came out, and am reminded of them in the anniversary of George Floyd’s death as I read ‘His Name Is George Floyd.’
Gloria H. (Georgia)
I am just speechless of how they hid things and get away with the hate. This was really an eye opener. Hate at it's best. I was lucky to be able to read this book at work with our book club.
JeppeT (Europe)
About part 5: Is this the whole documentation? If the rest of the 1619 project is just as loose, I do not understand the fuzz. It is not explained why June needed 2 mio dollars, that would mean planting 3000 acres. How much land did he own? Who lend him the money, the bank or the government? Was he included in the settlement? Why did they all get the same amount? Could he really meaningfully plant in december? What was the yield? What was the profit in normal year. How about some investigative, analytical journalism.
Myrna Iny (Los Angeles, CA)
An absolute gift! Thank you. This comes close to a form of South Africa's peace and reconciliation that America's history cries out for. I hope there will be future episodes touching on our history's injustices in so many aspects of life, education, red lining, environmental injustice, etc., etc. But then unless it is mandated, who listens and reads these? How do we foster empathy in those who hate or don't care? I so hope to read of justice for June and may it come soon.
Berenice (Philadelphia)
This was one of the most informative and eye-opening podcast I have heard/read. It has prompt me to continue reading and research on the history and the consequential legacy of slavery that we still carry on. The whole conceptual idea of this point of view makes me evaluate the ways my behavior perpetuates these ill practices. I really appreciate the work that was put into this well researched and beautifully presented podcast. Thank you!
Christine Baucom (Tyler, TX)
Thank you for this beautiful, eye-opening, and at times heart-breaking series. I will be teaching "To Kill A Mockingbird" this Spring to my students and will use this podcast as their "independent reading" assignment. I am saddened that it is over, but you have enriched my Saturday mornings for the last few months. Thank you again!
Sharon Dinsmore (Toronto)
I love this series and have learned so much. Thank you!
Annie (Israel)
Thank you, Nikole Hanna Jones. This podcast and especialy this episode has left me speechless. This project should be in every school currículum, not only in the U.S.
Sharon Dinsmore (Toronto)
@Annie I agree, I had no idea and almost feel ashamed & much like the Holocaust, this story needs to be told. I found this episode was especially touching as well.
Waste (In A Hole)
Contrary to the ad that is currently playing with this podcast, the play "To Kill a Mockingbird" is really mediocre. I would not recommend seeing it. There are several off-Broadway productions currently playing that are much more worthwhile.
kate (san francisco)
Why is the next one the last episode? There is so much more to be said here. My son and I will miss this show very much.
Bernadette (New Jersey)
I grew up in the Caribbean so I got a white washed version of the slave trade and it's impact on the lives of African American. Thank you to The NY Times, Nikole Hannah-Brown, and all those responsible for making this Podcast possible.
Charlotte (Washington, DC)
This episode made me cry...
MCH (Los Angeles, CA)
I’ve been really enjoying the podcast. This old Afrocentric lion is learning a few new deets to add to our story. Even though I do not subscribe to the “Columbus discovered America and nothing significant happened before 1492 Narrative” of which 1619 is a part, I like the detailing within the pieces. We (Black people) were familiar with this continent, and its inhabitants familiar with us, long before The Lion touched these shores or even before Western Civilization had an alphabet, to facilitate the creation of The New York Times. That being said, I’m hoping the Provost’s tale comes out with a successful redlining discrimination lawsuit against 1st Guarantee and other banks like it. As a Black Psychologist, studying successful responses to racial microaggressions and macroaggressions, I hope the story turns out well. It’s not paranoia, if they actually are after you, and do everything they can to make you fail, as they’ve done since before 1619, if you consider the Spanish activity “south of the border” in the 1500’s, the Papal Bulls of the 1400’s. All of which made Chattel slavery and its policy descendants, legal, morally defensible, and financially lucrative. The arc of the universe may bend towards justice...but justice often moves glacially. Hopefully the justice climate may warm, and I hope your podcast is part of the thawing.
alc2018 (Washington DC)
Super Wow! -Nikole, Nikole, Nikole thank you for bringing your work and wisdom. I only hope to ALWAYS be able to read and witness your testimony. My only regret is that the world and more importantly countless young people will miss this. I hope you win awards Ms. Hannah-Jones and your team, THIS, is powerful.
Annie (Israel)
I so agree with you!
Catherine (Chicago)
Nikole, once we boot Miss DeVos out, this should be required listening and reading. Sheesh, I missed a lot of this information and I went to private school! (on scholarship.)
Blake Feldman (Mississippi)
Episode 5 was worth the wait!
Tiffany (NYC)
Absolutely smacking podcast. It’s unfortunate that new episodes are coming to an end. This particular episode on purposeful destruction of Black land ownership was gut-wrenching. The Black community is certainly still feeling an impact from the lack of land/home ownership.
Liz (Planet earth)
Angie and June provost have been through hell. My God bless them on there journey to JUSTICE .
Karl A. Brown (Trinidad)
Thanks to President Trump, he has brought what has been the real America from 1619 to 2019, into focus, the beating heart beat of this country, Racism. Something that the average white American keep their heads buried in the sand about, why, because they too are complicit in the reality of what they do to others that do not look like them. To take action against what is so Evil, would be in their minds to surrender their eternal sense of Privilege. Their insecurity is astounding, yet their belief in being Superior, is really only an illusion. The entire country is living in Denial of some sort. We are in Danger as a country, especially now, we have a Chief illusionist in charge of all of us. Messing with our minds.
ajtucker (PA)
@Karl A. Brown Yet, I refuse to let #45 toy with my body or spirit. He is a carbon-based life form proving to be less functional day by day.
Katherine
@Karl A. Brown As a white American, I don't put my head in the sand. I feel guilty, and I feel sad, and I feel helpless. I did not vote for the chief illusionist and the fact that he's still pres after attempts to impeach him, well...all the more frightening. Fact is, there are many groups that the dominant whites would like to keep under their thumbs, including I, a woman. And my gay bro. And my autistic son. But Mr. Brown, I do sincerely in my heart wish for all of this hatred and aggression to go away, and do what I can to help with that. But somehow I don't feel welconed into the battle.