The Growing Crowds at Elizabeth Warren’s Events

Aug 26, 2019 · 18 comments
Ellen (San Diego)
Bernie Sanders is our FDR. Warren likes Teddy R. Bernie, once elected, can appoint Warren to a cabinet position so that she can work on trust busting, righting the wrongs on Wall Street, etc. We can have the best of both, and Bernie can beat Trump. I don’t see how Elizabeth can. She is a Dukakis, Mondale, Kerry sort of candidate, in my view.
Kerensky (18938)
It does look like Warren is the front-runner and most likely to get the nomination. From what I have read her one non-negotiable issue is Medicare For All. This is also my one non-negotiable issue. I am as opposed to it as she is in favor of it and because of this I can not vote for her in 2020. I have no opinion of her as a person, and I have never liked Trump, and voted against him in 2016. Biden will not be getting the nomination and I don't like any of Sanders' positions. My vote will really count in 2020 in the purple state that I live in.
Jenn (Grafton)
@Kerensky you are incorrect that she has one non-negotiable. Just listen to her speak and you will see she has MANY non-negotiables. You do not need to agree with her stance, nor do you have to vote for her. My sincere hope is that you really consider the state of our union when you make your choice, because like you said, your vote really matters. And not to mention, our democracy and planet is dying (healthcare aside).
JRB (KCMO)
She would be great! Biden would be great! Sanders would be great! Whoever would be great! We must all come together and vote for democrat great, no matter who...
Sharon (Seattle)
I was there—Warren was fantastic—honest and sane, optimistic but tough on big corporations— a significant position in the home of Amazon, Boeing, and Microsoft. She explained the wealth tax— your first 50 million is free, but after that it’s two cents on the dollar. She pointed out that it’s fair because the billionaires make their money using the roads and infrastructures that everyone pays for— they don’t make their fortunes in a bubble. And the two cent tax would pay for pubic education nation wide, would zero out student loans, and restore programs that help students get through college without ruinous loans. Her team of campaign workers wear T-shirts that say “Warren has a plan for that“—and it really seems true. She seems to have been thinking deeply and compassionately about all of the problems facing our nation. I am all in—I think she’s great. And it was such a relief to hear a public figure speaking sense for a change.
Ellen (San Diego)
@Sharon Warren sounds good, and my friends prefer her at this point, but what’s to prevent her from turning into yet another corporate Democrat if she takes Wall Street campaign donations. I won’t be fooled again.
SueC (Philly)
@Ellen Nothing. In fact, she wants to play in the sandbox with the DNC establishment in order to win the nomination - the same DNC establishment which has been one of the biggest blocks in the way of true reform. We are risking another Obama, who sounded great on the trail, and governed for the power brokers...
Ellen (San Diego)
@SueC No way I’ll vote for Warren, then, if she’s the nominee. Although my vote doesn’t count ( California), I have to live with my conscience. And at my age(78) , I can no longer hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.
AnnNYC (New York, New York)
You didn't pick the strongest candidates to suggest that crowd size is a good indicator of anything. Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders both lost their elections. Kamala Harris isn't doing that well in the polls. And we all know President Trump lies about (rather than merely "exaggerates") the size of his crowds. It certainly is interesting that Warren's crowds are growing, but surely you could have picked better examples than this. Otherwise, one tends to believe Joe Biden's assertion that crowd size doesn't matter.
Mary (Seattle)
I was there in the Seattle crowd for Elizabeth Warren. She’s an excellent speaker and held the crowd. You felt her passion to help the working class. I really wish the DNC would just broadcast every candidate’s stump speech instead of having these debates. The debates just show us who is skilled in getting a word in edgewise. After hearing Warren’s stump speech I understand her values...and we aren’t getting that information from the debates. P.S. I didn’t want to take her time for a selfie. But if I had, I would have slipped in: “please ask Pete to be your VP.” My dream team. Her sense of justice. His sense of morality.
cheerful dramatist (NYC)
I love Warren, fear she is getting more positive attention than Bernie because, well Bernie never gets any positive attention from mainstream media, though doing equally well in the polls. But the corrupt corporate Dems think she might be convinced to take corporate money and be like them. And an article in todays NYT makes it seem as if she has learned that she has to join the establishment in DC, which is corrupt, in order to win, and I very much doubt that she feels that way. But she is being favored some what because she not Bernie. He would end the swamp, and not hire the usual corrupt hacks, I don't think Elizabeth can be bought either, look what she did to the banks and wall street, but she is preferable to Bernie by the status quo. Just watched a clip of Bernie in Kentucky calling out Mitch for his refusal to have a vote on the minimum wage which would help the people in Kentucky so much and Mitch abandoning the unpaid coal workers and the ones with black lung disease, and Mitch not doing his job by sitting on bills to be passed. He was so strong in rhetoric and backbone it made you proud to stand up and to be an American. Tom Perez and Nancy gave thumbs down on a Climate Change debate with the candidates, because fossil fuel paid them to do so. If candidates go in depth about climate change, and have plans how to save the planet, gas and oil looks bad. The heads of the Dem party have gotten checks from fossil fuel to assist in the demise of the human race.
Ellen (San Diego)
@cheerful dramatist I remember my daughter raving about Bernie Sanders’ appearance in Portland, Oregon, in the Spring of 2016. 25,000 or so people were in attendance. I’ve been a Bernie fan since my days of living in Burlington, Vermont, in the 1970s. He remains true to his word, never adjusting his message to take advantage of some new trend. He has set the pace and I dearly hope that he gains the nomination. I’m less sure about Senator Warren and hope she will not be a sell- out if she gets the nomination,. However, she sure looks better than the rest of the competition. As for the DNC, it represents corporate/wealthy interests, not me.
cheerful dramatist (NYC)
@Ellen Love your comment and so agree with you. Warren has signed the TYT network pledge to help get money out of politics and never take corporate money and get Medicare for all. If you don't already you might enjoy The Young Turks on you tube. TYT network is the home of progressives and they really support Bernie, but they are very fair and go out of their way to rely on facts and not fiction and say their bias and give credit to any Republicans who do the right thing They want the best life for all people.
Susan (Massachusetts)
@cheerful dramatist She is favored over Bernie because she's a builder (CFPB), not a destroyer. I'll take a reformer over a revolutionary any day. Especially when that revolutionary pretends to be a Dem when he wants money, but then turns around and rails against the Dem "swamp." Warren's depth of knowledge of finance and the economy on both a macro AND micro level is unparalleled in the current Dem field. Oh, and she hasn't been part of the Washington swamp for 30+ years with nary an achievement--the woman gets stuff done!
Phyliss Dalmatian (Wichita, Kansas)
It's Warren for President. Now, if Bernie could get over his male pride for one second, I'd like for Her to choose Him OR Biden for her VP, if SHE thinks a Male is needed for " balance ". Otherwise, Harris for VP. Comments ???
KJ (Chicago)
Comment? Am weary of gender and identity politics. The Democratic party succeeds when it stays a big tent. Male, female, younger, older, progressive, moderate. Maybe the best candidate win and then beat Trump!
Ellen (San Diego)
@Phyliss Dalmatian What does “ male pride” have to do with anything? Pigeon holing a candidate in this way trivializes everything. Bernie Sanders has stood for the things I care about for a long time. He is no finger- in- the - wind candidate, like most of the others. And he won’t change his tune once in office, unlike the current resident of the White House. Trump ran on being a fake Bernie, and look where we are now.
Objectively Subjective (Utopia's Shadow)
@Phylliss Dalmatian: Slagging off candidates because of their gender is sexist. Stop it.