This statement "she's not my type" implies he only rapes women that are his type. Trump is repulsive, dangerous and has completely pulled the United States back to the dark ages.
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America Can Do Better than this President! Kids with no soap or toothpaste or fresh clothes locked up in cadges! Horrible treatment of women! The lies! Time to stop being comfotably numb and start paying attention. Trump is a dark spot on American history and he should be impeached. Enough already! Enough.
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Said Trump “No. 1, she’s not my type. No. 2, it never happened. It never happened, O.K.?”
Trump continued "I would never rape anyone but brunettes. And redheads. But not blondes, you know, they're just not my type... too ordinary."
Trump then concluded "Just like with Stormy and that Playmate - it never happened! OK?! It never happened!"
He concluded "Believe me."
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Trump says would not have assaulted her because “she’s not my type.”
So, if she had been his type he would have assaulted her ?
Do I understand well ?
Which evangelical church leader still supports this heathen ?
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Trump says would not have assaulted her because “she’s not my type.”
So, if she had been his type he would have assaulted her ?
Do I understand well ?
Which evangelical church leader still supports this heathen ?
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He once said that he could get away with shooting someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue.
And now he is proving it again.
Thanks Republicans. Thanks Fundamentalists.
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Mr. Trump could put to rest all these accusations - all it would take is a few minutes - pictures of all of the accusers and ONE lie detector session...... The gauntlet is thrown....
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12 women have accused the president of sexual attacks. He has bragged about attacking women. Is anything going to be done about this??
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So Donald Trump denied the accusation. The nation is stunned.
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Trump supporters love this. You're disgusted. They love that. You're dismayed, discouraged that such a lout is in power. That's even better. You're trying to inflict shame on people who want only one thing from their political leaders: shamelessness. Trump absolves them of the shame of bigotry, backwardness, being throwbacks and left-behind and obsolete. They want to be proud of ideas that society has condemned as wrong and immoral. America for them was Great back when men could abuse women and one race could abuse another one. Trump is an old song they loved, and they're hearing it again.
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I remember reading that Ivana trump said he raped her while they were married. She later retracted it. None of his ex-wives say much about him. I'm sure that has to do with his famous non-disclosure agreements. Hope Melania didn't sign one.
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Important to remember something in this context. One of his 2 former wives accused him of spousal rape. There is a recorded rant of Michael Cohen threatening an NPR columnist because they wanted to run that story on him. Have a listen:
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/31/615843930/listen-how-michael-cohen-protects-trump-by-making-legal-threats
The man is an abomination not just on our country but the entire species of males. He is not one of us. He is something else. Like a thing.
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Guess he's not her type either!
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Donald's "too ugly to rape" defense reminds me of how verbally abusive people often accuse their victims of being "too sensitive". Such behavior and rationalizing would be typical and expected from Trump.
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Her description would characterize this as first degree rape. There is NO statute of limitations in New York for this alleged crime. She still has her dress and states it has never been cleaned.
As we say in New York, "Time to put up or shut up." She does women everywhere a disservice by not reporting this and having the potential evidence examined. We all know how allegations without any supporting evidence are conveniently dismissed, particularly in this political atmosphere.
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NY Times I think it’s time to run an article of all of the 22 accusations made against Trump- list the date and what happened. Run it under his infamous quote from access Hollywood.
Maybe in its entirety will a few unaffected boiling frogs jump out of the Trump caldron in time to save themselves.
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“She’s lying”, “she’s not my type”, & “I don’t know her”.
Kindly note he never says, ‘I never touched this woman in any way, shape, or form against her will’.
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@Lewis Sternberg
I wonder if that isn't because of the Access Hollywood tape where he freely admitted that he couldn't help himself when he started kissing and grabbing women. If he issues a blanket denial, he's inviting that tape to be replayed over and over.
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Yes It's already been said here in the comments and much better, but - that the PRESIDENT could say "she's not my type" on response to.the allegations says it all. This is way beyond disgraceful, It is absolutely unacceptable.
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"She's not my type".
Translation: Ms Carroll is not a porn star, she is not dumb, she is not in a Miss anything pageant. She knows right from wrong and can identify a pig when she sees one.
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So, let me get this straight... If the rape charge of even one of the approximately 20 women who allege having being raped by Trump were supported by incontrovertible evidence of being true - for example, a security camera filmed the attack - the Justice Department would continue to assert that a sitting president is exempt from criminal prosecution because it would greatly diminish his ability to function? Really? We have run off the tracks of even low bar common sense.
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@Richard Frank it would be NY charges. And I guess that OLC opinion would finally be litigated.
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Do the criminal laws in those instances (when Justice Dept says s/he may not be indicted because of status as sitting pres) accordingly suspend any and all related statutes of limitations?
In other words, are the laws and the Justice Dept rules or guidelines or practices or whatever they are called, provide victims/prosecutors with at least as much extra time to bring or pursue claims and/or charges and/or indictments etc. as the alleged perpetrator-sitting-President has to avoid indictment and/or other parts of the criminal process? It should.
And frankly, while I don't know all of the possible legal and social implications of the following, common sense also suggests that a new President (especially if not elected by the popular vote in a general election) should not be able to pardon his/her immediate predecessor in the position. That pardon, if and when granted, ought come from at least 2/3 of both houses of Congress and perhaps a vote by the populace (similar to a constitutional amendment). Or, at the very least, the pardon should have to wait until 3 general elections for President have been held and those elected are inaugurated. That, or maybe until a President of the opposing party is in office.
Otherwise, we don't have a leader of, by, and for The People who was, is, and remains one of us, but a Supreme Leader/dictatorial King who really can do anything -- not just walk down Fifth Ave and shoot someone point-blank in daylight w/ 100 testifying eye witnesses.
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@Richard Frank.....To be accurate, and thus take the high ground in constrast to our illustrious leader--- it's not all actual rape, although some 'assault' incidents are so awful, it's sickening to even read about it.
The nauseating history is in this PBS Newshour article:
"All the assault allegations against Donald Trump, recapped."
"16 women have accused Donald Trump of various forms of sexual assault, including one accusation of rape
--- and another, in which the accuser has not used the word “rape” but whose description meets the legal definition of rape.
This figure includes standing accusations from both before and after the release of the Access Hollywood tape on October 7, 2016."
.....etc, etc.
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"‘She’s Not My Type’: Accused Again of Sexual Assault, Trump Resorts to Old Insult
What type of women does he rape? Also, why is this an insult? Not being liked by somebody with bad taste, is a good thing.
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So if she were his type, and she turned him down, only THEN might he rape her?
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Ivana Trump wrote in her book how how her then husband raped her. She wrote this when both their children could read this. Why would any mother write such a thing if it was not true. No one in his clan said a peep and Ivana Trump denied this act during the Trump race to White House, I suspect they knew that Trump would do to his own what we have been witnessing for the three year. I believe this woman but her timing is suspect, why didnt she come forward while he was running?
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A 75 year old attractive and famous lady steps up. Talks. Bears witness to help others do the same. So many to help. So many.
The 72 year old famous man says she’s not his type. He says he does not know her. Says he did not rape her. Not his type. None are his type.
An habitual liar. A pathological liar. His types know too well.
Not his type, he says.
So, he remembers?
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“... he would not have assaulted her because ‘she’s not my type’.” There it is. The really chilling thing is that this is Trump’s current response to an old incident. For those who think that he has turned some sort of corner on his attitude toward women, a predator turned champion, there it is, writ large.
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All the people casting doubt over the victim's narrative: none of you have a problem with his answer??? The troubling, horrifying issue is not the rape accusation as he was accused of rape by his first wife too but his answer. He has no problem with raping somebody as long as he is sexually attracted to the victim!!!! That is the answer of a sociopathic amoral man. Focus on that. Think about that. That is the man Republicans and conservatives and fundamentalist Christians continue to support. That is the man Republicans in Congress continue to enable with no loss is sleep whatsoever. Horrifying.
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@Rosie:
You hit the nail on the head with your observations. Particularly with respect to the self-annointed religious crowd . . . which oddly seems to worship money rather more than morality, by dent of their actions and attitudes.
If there really are the proverbial Pearly Gates, the vast majority are in for a missive, unpleasant surprise.
There's an exquisite parallel currently in play down here on planet Earth: just as Trump and his minions are eager to turn away immigrants at our walled border, they best brace themselves for a parallel experience of their own.
(Hint: harps and halos will be far and few between).
Sad. Bigly sad.
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@Rosie:
Ah yes . . . isn't it an exquisitely ironic demonstration of supposed Christian values and -- more to the point -- behavior.
I doubt any of them would honestly ask the question: " What would Jesus do?"
Somehow I doubt Jesus would endorse the Wall, let alone the appalling, utterly inhumane of how those who made it across were treated -- particularly the utterly innocent children.
Undoubtedly many such hypocrites will attend thier church, sing the hymns, applaud the sermon and leave assured of their status as Good Christians.
This of course will be attended by a smug self-confidence that they are blameless and destined to eternal life (with harps and halos as homecoming gifts).
May I suggest to one and all to take another look at Timothy's warning.
Our society has never been the gold-standard for Christian virtue it seems to think.
Narcissism (reaching full bloom in Trump) and holy piousness are on full display; humble care of one another is a long-lost facet of our society.
Is it any wonder then that we've elected who we did?
Sad. Bigly sad.
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Mr. Trump’s assertion that “she’s not my type,” implies that he would rape and attack a woman who was his “type.”
This man should not be the president of our country.
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@Bevan Davies: Exactly how I interpret its asinine answer also. Only the 'but' clause is missing, 'but if she were my type, sure you betcha, what's wrong with that?'
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@Bevan Davies
We think "she's not my type" is a compliment.
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@Bevan Davies--That's exactly the first thought that came into my mind. And, I am certain that the Republican Party and Trump supporters will accept his defense and see it as reasonable.
I don't care if the economy is good or not, Trump must be removed from office.
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So, Trump says he wouldn't have assaulted Carroll because '“she’s not my type.”' How about this, Mr. Trump: 'I wouldn't have raped Ms. Carroll because I am vehemently opposed to violence against women and find rape a despicable deed carried out by callous, inhuman men.'
But no, instead of decrying the violence he's accused of, he resorts to even more violence by a) normalizing rape and b) insulting the woman who accuses Mr. Trump of raping her and c) insinuating that men rape women because they find them attractive. A disgusting response anyway you look at it.
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@Paul P I seriously doubt you care.
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@Paul P
Here’s a more apt analogy: a person is accused of robbing a bank, and responds with “I wouldn’t rob THAT bank… There’s not enough money in it.“
Would you trust that person?
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@Paul P Actually, I would say,"Robbing a bank is immoral and wrong, and I'm a good, law-abiding citizen." Not "I wouldn't rob that bank because their cash is mostly in a denomination that I don't care for".
The fact that you both completely miss the point is deeply disturbing.
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Once again we have a situation where the motives of the accuser may be called into question, because of timing and because politics are involved. Ms. Carroll was not a naive, young woman when this incident allegedly took place — she was 52 and an established professional. To accuse now is to manufacture a scenario that at best becomes a "he said she said" public media mud slinging contest. Forgive me if I offend with my lack of sensitivity to Ms. Carroll's claims, but be a hero at the time you feel you were wronged, go public, tell the authorities — don't wait 20+ years when some might rightly question your motivations and intent. We all deserve to be considered innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around — even Trump. America has lost its mind.
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@Hk Your comment would carry more weight if we weren't talking about a man who brags about assaulting women and whose first response is 'she's not my type'. I agree that old claims may be suspect but believe that those who are choosing to ignore the ever accumulating evidence of our President's thuggish behavior are the ones who have lost their minds and their decency.
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Yes, it would be nice to live in a perfect world. But let’s talk about the one we live in. For many who are victims of rape or any other type of sexual assault, as with any humiliation, the immediate and overwhelming drive is to get away from the event. Escape it, bury it, and get past it. Move on. You don’t want to tell anyone, you just want it to go away. Nor do you want to relive it again and again, as you would have to were you to report it. Then, there is the knowledge, as a woman, that you may not be believed, and you will be questioned by many about your role and your sexual history—what were you wearing, how did you behave, how many partners have you had. Your community will have your deepest shame and trauma as fodder for gossip, and they will form their opinions, which will stay with you forever. You will forevermore be The Girl/Woman Who Was Raped. I can’t imagine how overwhelming this must be when one or both parties are celebrities. If we want victims to report when rape happens, we need to change the way we treat rape and its victims— in the criminal justice system, in the media, on social media, in our communities. I was raped 30 years ago, and I didn’t tell anyone until last year. You don’t get to tell a woman when she should tell; it’s a deeply personal choice. Finally, ask yourself - would you make the same demand of a man who had been raped? In the Catholic Church, for example? Or even as an adult? I haven’t heard these criticisms in those contexts.
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@Hk
Why doesn’t anyone ever say this to men who come forward with claims of abuse by priests? Even if they were assaulted as adults and hide their “shameful secret” because they’re too embarrassed to publicly say what happened, the moment they speak up, they’re considered heroes. But a professional woman who finally feels empowered to add her voice to a credible conversation is dismissed as opportunistic?
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I wonder how many people here actually read her article. She accuses Trump, Les Moonves of CBS and a total of "six hideous men" who did things to her.
Read her article. Absolutely not credible. Especially her encounter with Moonves, in another enclosed space - an elevator this time - her writing resembles a high school student's attempt at racy fiction that they imagine a Playboy or Cosmo would print.
Trump and Moonves ought to sue her for defamation. This person creates fiction to conveniently destroy people's reputation. Books, even bad ones, sell better that way.
Of course, none of this is mentioned in the NYT article. Why?
I say again, go read her own words. And then form your own conclusions. I have formed mine. Case closed.
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Mr. ‘Case Closed’: you recommend that Trump sues this woman for false accusations. Did you ever wonder why Trump has not sued any of the multitude of women who have accused him of sexual abuse. It is because in any such lawsuit, Trump would have to submit himself to deposition under oath.
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I read her article. And I find her completely credible.
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@John Xavier III
Thanks for reminding us of poor Les Moonves. A man of great integrity. An upstanding citizen who has never previously been accused of assault. This story totally goes against type.
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Penetrated without consent, while fighting, in a change room? Head banged against the wall, struggling against her assailant. Sounds a lot like violent rape, hands down? Doesn’t tell anyone except 2 anonymous friends. Not the police. Not the shop assistants. Doesn’t try to prevent the evil assailant doing his evil to someone else. Doesn’t come forward when DT is pressured by other women some 22 years later. (Maybe because her book wasn’t written yet). Rolls this allegation out just before release of her book a few years later. This is America...
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@James
No, this is the story of sexual assault. It is how women have been dealing with it for millennia. The college girl attacked a party, but then feels she led him on? Women have been told for years not to trust themselves, is it any surprise she let herself believe she wouldn’t get anywhere with his lawyers?
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Most victims do not report their rape out of a mix of shame, embarrassment and the fear of being victimized again at the hands of the police and the ‘justice’ system.
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@James
Obviously, as a man, you have all the experience necessary to judge whether a woman’s experience of sexual assault is credible – not! As a woman who has experienced much the same as Caroll, I can tell you that her account is absolutely credible. 40% of women have been sexually assaulted before the age of 18. I was one of them. Some more facts: Low estimate of the number of women , according to the Department of Justice, raped every year: 300,000. High estimate of the number of women raped, according to the CDC: 1.3 million. Percentage of rapes not reported: 54 percent. A woman’s chance of being raped in the U.S.: 1 in 5. Maybe you should just stop mansplaining rape. Only when men like you stop assuming that they know what women’s experience is, will this country begin down the road of actually tackling the epidemic of assault on women.
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Any normal man accused of sexual assault who did not commit said assault would obviously be horrified, but would also say something to the effect of, "I did not commit this crime, because I would never sexually assault any woman, at any time. I do not believe in or condone violence against women, and would never engage it in it myself." Instead, we have the President of the United States saying that he did not assault Ms. Carroll because "'she's not my type'". He's basically saying he didn't assault her not because he would never hurt her or any woman but because he's not attracted to her, as though attraction has anything to do whatsoever with rape.
I know this has been said already in this comments section, but I felt the need to say it again because I'm so horrified and disgusted by this. Over 20 women have accused this man of assault and that alone makes him unfit for the presidency. When you combine it with his other hideous errors, inadequacies, idiocies, lies, and glaring psychiatric issues, I have no idea how he's still in office. Even George W. Bush, the folksy Republican darling of the early 2000s, would have been long gone had any of these accusations been leveled against him. I'm going to call my elected officials today and express my outrage about this, but I doubt it will do any good. Trump is a disgrace to Americans of conscience and character in all 50 states.
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@Lindsay K
But this is the reality, Trump is extremely popular with about 45% of the voting population and has a very decent chance of being re-elected. As I try to grapple with this maddening reality it has occurred to me that Trump may be popular with this group of people not in spite of his behavior, but because of it. Think of his brazenness. When accused of rape he says, "She wishes, eww, I'd never rape that!" And people love him for it. I think what has happened is that for a large group of Americans there has been a breakdown in the concept of decency. Conservatives created a narrative where decency has become obsolete because it is a hindrance to "winning." My great worry is that liberals/moderates will lose their own decency - for its bad enough that 45% of the country has become indecent - but what happens when the other 55% begin to lose their humanity? Collapse. Don't let Trump change you.
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@Lindsay K
I am not defending trump, I think he is a creep and has to be tried in a court of law for many things.
I will say statements like "but would also say something to the effect of, "I did not commit this crime, because I would never sexually assault any woman, at any time. I do not believe in or condone violence against women, and would never engage it in it myself." "
while legion among women don't reflect reality.
TV shows like Steve Wilkos have convinced people that it is okay to make broad pronouncements about what other 'normal' people would do in some situation.
It is baloney.
Some men will get mad at being accused, others horrified, others would find the accusation laughable, and another group would just stare at you like you are a dead fish.
It is always funny when members of groups that call themselves as victims of bias then set out to create broad stroke bias using insulting and inaccurate generalized claims amounting to "if you were a normal xxx you would do yyyy"
stop it people just stop it.
Trump is a creep, stop trying to say what a normal person would, in your fantasy world, do and deal with what he actually did.
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@William G - You pose a difficult, sad question: could people who support Trump support him not in spite of his behavior, but because of it? There has always been a certain segment of the populace that thinks women, especially women deemed "unattractive" for whatever reason, are humorous fodder and are not to be taken seriously, because what value do they have anyway since they're not good-looking? That line of thinking has now, thanks to Trump, been giving credence and a forum for national public expression. I also worry that we're becoming a nation that is losing its decency, but at the same time I have hope: the outrage expressed here in this very comments section by hundreds of people is proof enough that decency isn't dead. People don't want this sort of behavior in an elected official, but the problem is many of our other elected officials aren't publicly deploring this man and his behavior, as well as his overall lack of care and concern for our nation. It would be over for Trump if the Republicans walked away from him, but they won't until he ceases being useful to them, and he's a useful battering ram for their agendas. True, we can all vote en masse in 2020, but that's still a year and a half away. Nevertheless, that's 18 months we have to act like decent people ourselves and to be the citizens whom the late Sen. John McCain died believing us to be. I guess I still believe that love trumps hate any day. I hope that, come November 2020, I'm not wrong.
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On a scale of zero to Bill Clinton, this serial misconduct trends towards the latter, or possibly even a bit beyond. Perhaps I forget, but I don't remember quite the same outrage over the accusations leveled at 42, admittedly well before the me-too movement was invented. This allegation of violent rape has taken 20 years to emerge and does so just when the alleged perpetrator is President of the United States (with a bad reputation) and the alleged victim has a book to sell? Perhaps I am insufficiently woke but I am a bit skeptical as to the fine details.
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@TRS
I'm not excusing Clinton's deplorable behavior, but the difference between him and Trump is that Clinton was unfaithful to his wife on more than one occasion, and ruined the life of a young girl (Monica Lewinsky), while Trump has admitted to forcing himself on women (and he was also unfaithful to his current wife). Actually, Trump bragged about groping women.
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Prove it! Trump has every right to be disgusted with this accusation. Good for him for firing back at her. I do NOT believe all these women. I'm a 77 year old grandmother who has traveled the world and I've seen and heard a lot. Women can be devious and vindictive and can operate quite successfully with bad agendas. The mantra "believe them" is ridiculous and dangerous. We have to put a timeline on these accusations. They should not be open-ended anymore.
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yes, and if it did happen it was probably her fault, right JG?
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@J. G. Smith
My head spins when I read a post such as this. Unbelievable! It is not just the fact that Ms. J.G. Smith does not believe the accuser, it is the fact that this is just the sort of mentality that makes women suffer in silence. Moreover, believe the man with over 10,000 lies? Unbelievable!
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You are a woman telling me not to believe women. As a man who has taught in elementary schools for the last 35 years, I find it very easy to believe women, particularly when they have come to me with accounts like this woman’s attack by a serial sexual assaulter, who just happens to be squatting in the Oval Office.
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Trump's twitter response is vulgar, however Ms. Carroll's decision to come forward through a book is reprehensible. Come forward first, then write the book. I believe the other women, but I do not believe you.
Further the title of your upcoming book "What do we need men for?" is disgusting and reeks of misandry. Shame on you. You do a disservice to female victims sexual assault. If anything you make Trump stronger and may cause swing male voters to vote for him.
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The hardest thing for me to understand is how Trump can be any woman's type.
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If you hate Trump then you will believe the accuser. If you don't hate him then you demand to see the evidence. But in this day and age the word of a woman is sacrosanct and evidence is irrelevant. Election season has started, she has written a book, she is now on TV. I do not believe in coincidences.
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If you hate Bill Cosby, then you believe the accuser. If you hate Harvey Weinstein then you believe the accuser. If you hate, Dr. Nassar, then you believe the accuser. If you hate R. Kelley, then you believe the accusers. Copy paste. Copy paste. Copy paste
Each one of these men claim to be a victim and unjustly accused.
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@Donald
Nor do I believe in such coincidences. Too many women have alleged independently of each other that Trump has sexually assaulted them to dismiss the allegations as mere politicking or pay back. The sheer number of accusers is persuasive in itself.
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@Donald
Did you preach the same gospel when it was Clinton in the hot seat? Probably not. A liar president is sacrosanct provided he is a republican...at least in name.
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But if she was my type, I would of.
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Why is Harvey Weinstein on trial and not Donald Trump ?
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@Bruce Savin. Because he’s a rapist that people decided not to protect anymore. Trump has almost half the country protecting him right now, that’s more than Weinstein ever had.
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How many rapists choose victims who are "their type"?
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Having been a victim of sexual assault as well as knowing counselors who work with sexually assault victims, never in my life have I ever heard the phrase "she's not my type" in any way, shape or form. Rape and sexual assault is all about control, violence, dominating and humiliating the victim.
For the life of me, for Trump's first statement to be, “No. 1, she’s not my type" rather than simply denying the charge, I continue to shake my head in disbelief. It almost implies that he goes shopping for "his type" of woman. Bizarre, strange, incongruent, and pathetic only begins to scratch the surface when I think of him and all of the other women who have made claims of sexual assault against him.
It's difficult to believe someone who has lied to the American people on so many occasions in the past vs. a woman who told two friends when this occurred (who were interviewed and confirmed by the NYT) 20 years ago.
For whatever it's worth, I believe the words of Ms. Carroll. I tend to think she has more credibility and integrity in her pinky finger than that man will EVER have.
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@Marge Keller: Let's see if America can set up a test to see who is Donald John Trump's "type" and caution all who might fit the profile.
About 20 cease of rape have been publicly registered against the President of America but he can't be Indicted while he is ensconced in the WH!
Defeat him and arrest him as he walks out of the WH.
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Trump represents the elite private school white men. They tend think that they can get away with doing just about anything. Just like look at Brock Turner. He got a slap on his hand. We working class need to destroy the elite class within the system. That's the only way we can have progress. Also, E.Jean Carroll should've spoken up a long time ago, but she's a white women protecting white men. Always remember that 53% of white women voted for Trump.
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I wish ALL the women would step forward.
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That he has a "type" that he would want to rape should repulse any decent person.
Instead, his enablers make excuses for him.
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He's a criminal, a violent criminal and should be treated as such. He's assaulting children on the border every day, psychologically, physically hurting them. And that seems to be a feature, not a bug of what his policies are.
"She's not my type". Unbelievable he has a wife at this point. I guess that makes her complicit in all of his crimes.
His first wife, the mother of three of his children, the mother of his daughter, whom he said was hot and if she wasn't his daughter he'd be dating her, accused him of rape in the divorce and then recanted (I'm sure she was threatened). But she never recanted this story: that she was teasing him after his scalp reduction was causing him pain, so he grabbed a chunk of her hair and pulled it out. Yanked out her hair!
Like I said, a violent criminal. And the world watches. The world watches and terrible things are happening to children in our name because of this man. How to deal with the sadness and grief and anger I feel every day that this criminal is in our White House.
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@sophia
RE: Unbelievable he has a wife at this point. I guess that makes her complicit in all of his crimes.
No need to bring up Hillary Clinton. Everyone knows she's Bill's co-conspirator.
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@Reader In Wash, DC What an odd, inappropriate distraction. Why?
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@Reader In Wash, DC
What on earth does Clinton have to do with the FACT that Trump is an admitted serial sexual abuser?
And, despite knowing this, apparently you approve of the man!
Disgusting!
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Ahh, the Darling of the Evangelicals deploys his usual sordid deflection.
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There is a preponderance of evidence that our President has a history of assaulting women, which should horrify us all.
If any other President faced this accusation and responded as did Trump, the outcry would be deafening, especially if said President was a Democrat.
The Republican Party is responsible for this man siting in the Oval Office. Never forget that.
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@John Sheldon
There is a preponderance of accusations - but not evidence.
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@John Sheldon
The Republican Party is defined by the election of Donald Trump, the coddling of racism as a way of building an electoral majority, the destruction of the campaign finance laws, the invasion of Iraq, etc. this party is an agency of political evil, and deserves thorough repudiation, otherwise America is joining the dark side.
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@John Sheldon Remember Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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Ms. Carroll has been a high-profile women's rights advocate for many years. Why didn't she come out sooner with her 25-year-old charges against Trump? The fact that she is now in the process of trying to sell one of her products -- a man-bashing book, no less -- detracts from the credibility of her claim of victimhood. The NYT should only publish allegations of sexual assault if there is physical evidence to corroborate the charge. Enough of the he said-she said about unprovable allegations about something that supposedly happened 30 years ago. the mid-90s, any high-end
department store in Manhattan had state-of-the-art video surveillance as well as a staff of security guards. Any man who tried to attack a woman in a dressing room would have been easily convicted based on indisputable physical evidence. Ms. Carroll earned her living supposedly providing sound advice to women. It makes no sense that she, of all people, wouldn't have reported the alleged attack immediately to police, if for no other reason than to try to prevent other women from being raped by Trump.
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@Bilsimo, as she has stated, she did not report due to fear of reprisal. She told two friends, who have both corroborated her account; one advised her to report, the other advised her not to report, saying that Trump would "bury" her.
You have no idea what women endure when they report sexual assault; just look at Anita Hill and Dr. Blasey Ford.
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@Bilsimo
It's illegal (privacy violation) to put security cameras in bathrooms and dressing rooms. Cameras aren't monitored 24/7. If Ms. Carroll reported the attack, department store security and police would have reviewed what the camera did record on the floor of the store.
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@Bilsimo I assume you are a man by your reply. You clearly have no concept of the shame and disgust this act engenders in a woman. Many just want to put it behind them. Even her friends advised her not to cross Trump. But how long should a man get a pass? Isn't there a point when a woman might feel compelled to publicly call him out? If there was just one accusation, one might be convinced it was political, but he has clearly engaged in serial rape and gotten away with it. And this man is our president. He should be called out.
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Rape is not about "type," It's about power.
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I agree with Donald in this situation. E. Jean Carroll is certainly not his type. She is a strong, smart, funny, very attractive and obviously not a liar.
Donald's type is his daughter Ivanka as he has often said.
Having two daughters myself, I find that strange and disturbing on so many levels. I guess for Donald and his adoring fans it's completely normal and probably desirable.
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@Andre: I have thought exactly the same thing about Donald's relationship with his daughter Ivanka which is truly disturbing on so many levels. But I will just leave it there.
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@Andre. As in many "rural" areas, as the myth goes, Ivanka cn run faster than Donald, even with the fake body parts.
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@LaPine True—that thing on top of his head must weigh him down quite a bit.
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What does anyone expect? The plausibility of these type of accusations no longer matters when they are a dime a hundred. The reaction essentially is, well, yes, men are creeps but in this case it's too late and no longer subject to investigation or proof. Endless repetition induces boredom in the public not outrage.
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@Frunobulax I'm outraged, rather than bored, thank you. Speak for yourself.
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@Frunobulax I'm a member of the public and I'm very outraged. Sorry these stories bore you but for women who are victims of predatory, "famous" men who can do "whatever they want" it is always an outrage. Anyone else would have been in jail for any number of Trump's outrages against so many people a long time ago. Just because it's Trump and he can and does get away with egregious behavior doesn't mean it's not outrageous and that people aren't outraged. Women and the men who support women are outraged and you'll hear from us all in 2020.
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@Frunobulax
Actually, the way the laws are written in NY regarding this type of attack the alleged event is within the statute of limitations.
She should go after him, but then that triggers the next "attack" from his bevy of lawyers that will ultimately drain her of financial resources and spirit.
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She doesn't have to be his type. Type is for girlfriends or wives, not for someone he thought would fit the bill for his sudden impulsive "great idea" of having sex in a dressing room, so he could cross that endeavor off his list. She was expedient, just like the woman on the plane who was not his type, but he thought he could get her to have sex with him in the airplane bathroom. Hey, he get's bored and thinks of things to do.
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@Sharon Levine
He is a sexual predator.... it's about time for this to be acknowledged. Sexual predators do not have types only past and potential victims.
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@Sharon Levine -- or it didn't happen at all, right?
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@Sharon Levine . This should be posted world-wide! Thanks, Sharon.
Like a 7th grader, "he gets bored and thinks of things to do".
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More from the "#What about Me Too" movement. It is amazing, that a woman can come forward 20 30 or more years later - and say anything she wants - and everyone supports her. There is no evidence, no proof - nothing to indicate that she and the President ever had any interaction together. WHAT ABOUT ME TOO.
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@Randy
The only individual screaming "what about me?" is Trump. (And the gazillion other rapists gracing our nation.)
Trump could acknowledge that rape is a horrific crime with endless negative effects on a survivor's life and that he and his "family values, pro-life" administration is going to do something about it. That is the way a healthy, innocent person would speak. Instead he says, "What about me? She wasn't my type."
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@Randy
And you response is exactly why women for decades have kept these assaults quiet.
It's amazing, that a man can say anything he wants, no evidence, no proof, and everyone believes him!
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So his answer: he did not rape her because she is not "his type" and not because rape is a violent crime and wrong not a problem for you at all?
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When trump`s supporters particularly Women are going to realize that he is a disgusting con-man and liar in chief ?
What is wrong with Men as well, they have their own daughters growing up to be out there to be assaulted ?
I live in a trump town, not that long ago my next door was trying to tease me about Biden sniffing women`s hair.
I asked him aren`t you worried, you have two beautiful girls at home 11 and 12 ?
He just shrugged it off.
Is this the picture of America of today when Women still are considered to be a second class citizens ?
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Can DT really think anyone who lies as much as he does can be believed? And the”not my type” comment, used before no less, is laughable. Except it is NOT funny; and it implies that DT only assaults women he is attracted to. What a creepy criminal.
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For anyone impacted, having patience when these kind of allegations show up in numbers beyond their own experiences has to be well beyond extremely difficult, but ultimately even america's dad (Bill Cosby) was eventually convicted when the evidence was so overwhelming it could no longer be disputed. Sooner or later they will get their day in court and prevail, as Cosby's victims did.
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Trump hates women. They threaten his cartoonish idea of masculinity as overcompensation for his glaring weaknesses. Women frighten him and bring out the bully in him. Nancy Pelosi has him pegged.
He places himself above the law because he believes ethics and morality are beneath him. Devoid of empathy or conscience, he's an endlessly posable Gumby President who will adopt any position that suits his desires at the moment. He's not a principled conservative or a "pro-lifer" (he was for abortion before he was against it), he's just an amoral survivalist. He's something less than a man, but he's not entirely un-human, just desperately inhumane -- from his ICE camps for children taken from their parents at the border to that dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman.
But these latest rape jibes (can anyone believe him, a habitual liar, over his accusers?) suggest that maybe "evil" isn't too big a word for him, after all.
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So, Trump has a particular type of woman he would consider assaulting. What is wrong with this man? What kind of response is that? Based on her (much younger) photo with Donald and Ivana, she certainly fits into the blond type he appears to be attracted to. He is just disgusting on so many levels!
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I read an excerpt from Ms Carroll's book, and I'll have to say, reluctantly, that she has very poor judgement when it comes to men. She comes off as being reckless and a bit cavalier. And after all of her bad experiences, she would have recognized where things were headed. Nevertheless, I believe her account--Trump is beyond odious and will take any advantage given him. So why give someone like him the opportunity?
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Doesn't matter. No victim "has it coming". I agree with you that Trump, even when younger, has always been a pretty disgusting man whose only saving grace were his father's millions, and yeah, he probably attracts a certain kind of woman who has no problem with his sociopathy but nobody "deserves" to be raped.
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@Rosie
I never said she had it coming. But we women must realize that the world is a dangerous place for us, and we need to be careful. What do we tell girls and young women? Be careful not to put yourself in harm's way, followed by examples of what has happened to Ms Carroll. This in no way blames them for anything.
Quite a few comments about how this new accusation is a cynical ploy to sell books. At a minimum, one should at least read the excerpt from New York Magazine, Ms. Carroll also details an incident of being held to the ground at knife point while she was in college, are we to believe that story was also a fiction created to boost sales? Interesting how Republicans like to project their own worst thoughts and impulses onto the rest of us. No sir, just because you would do such a thing doesn’t mean the rest of us would do that.
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Was the Bergdorf Goodman incident not quietly observed by a bystander with a thin wall between them? Has that observer not appeared? How many more such behaviors are we aware of? Would he start a hot war to change the subject and divert voters? Would the Leader stop him? Would the Speaker? How many civil and criminal court matters are circulating on our president? It only takes one. There are dozens.
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How is he the president?! If someone is raped they don't have to be your type. They are just someone you see as weak and someone you think you can take advantage of. It makes me sick to hear all these women were abused by these men who they couldn't go after because they have more privileges. No matter when these women have come out and told their stories, they are all so brave. It just makes me feel unsafe knowing that these women were sexually assaulted and no one's doing anything. It's the woman's word against the man's. This is not the first time a lady has come out and brought attention to herself, announcing that she was sexually assaulted by Trump. They kept silent thinking they would be hurt if they told someone. They were threatened. They were abused and hurt physically, as well as mentally and emotionally. I don't feel that Trump should be our president for many reasons, but him raping women is the one, I feel, he should be severely punished for.
It took me a while to notice it, but readers should follow the link which revisits how The Times initially handled the allegations.
"The Times did not find independent sources — people beyond the two friends Ms. Carroll cited in her book — who could verify her account at the time of the article’s publication, or any other additional corroboration."
So, why would Ms. Carroll lie or exaggerate a tale 23 years after it happened? She is publishing a book and such a story is likely to enhance her sales.
And 23 years after the event it is impossible to prove it false.
And President Trump is an easy target.
Now if we are to believe the tale, we have to believe that Ms. Carroll, as an experienced journalist in her 50's, agreed to go into a fitting room with Trump with some lingerie, with Trump expecting her to try it on.
Are we really supposed to believe that she went into the fitting room with the idea that she could make Trump try on the lingerie?
And there, in spite of her best efforts to resist, in about three minutes, he has raped her.
Right.
Perhaps, it is the sort of thing Trump would try to do with some young powerless model who might be awed by his power. But, Ms. Carroll was a part of the media establishment and in her 50's.
I suppose in the minds of some, that would be enough to justify the tale.
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I do hope that someday soon after Mr. Trump is gone (i.e.dead), we will hear from Melania Trump. Surely it would be a best seller for her, assuming that the pre-nuptial agreement does not prevent it. Imagine Melania’s glee in not only inheriting wealth (if there is really anything to inherit), but also the opportunity to get revenge and money with a best selling book.
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To apply a 'duck' analogy: If it walks like a rapist and talks like a rapist, it probably is.
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I can’t believe that this cretin is the leader of this country. “He’s Not My Typel” will be the lead bumpersticker for the Rest of Us in the coming year.
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The Liar in Chief denies he raped E. Jean Carroll. Who believes the man that lies and does not seem to know when he lies?
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When your is so repetitive, It’s nearly impossible to remember each incident.
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When it comes to a louse and liar like Trump, it's very difficult not to believe the woman.
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Once Again the comments here by men show the depths of misogyny and the rape culture in America.
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@Tamy
“I think most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies,” Carroll replied. The interview was interrupted by a commercial break.
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@Tamy - It's not just men. There are some appalling comments by women as well.
@DR
And alleged rape victims also.
A credible accuser has come forward charging the POTUS with rape and it doesn't matter. His supporters think the victim is lying or the liberals paid her to lie or they simply don't care because tRump "fights for them". The rest of us are stunned that this is where we are. My fellow Americans will either fix this in 2020 or continue the curse, shame and chaos that is the tRump presidency.
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Dear President Trump, please state for the record what kind of woman (or girl) is your type, so next time when you are accused of ungentlemanly behavior, then we, the voting public, would know immediately whom to believe and whom not to believe.
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“With the utmost respect, she’s not my type.”
The first thing autocrats and dictators do is change the meanings of words.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/books/holocaust-nazi-archive.html
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Time for million person marches in DC and Mar A lago, lowd and angry
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interesting she would wait til just the right moment to maximize book sales. He's a jerk; some of his "victims" are capitalists
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E. Jean Carroll is selling her book and using the media to do it. Yesterday she told Anderson Cooper: “I think most people think of rape as being sexy.” Immediately Mr. Cooper cut to a break. The NY Times has similarly been sent on fools’ errands as it abandoned moral courage and pandered to the left.
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Why would any woman try on lingerie for another man? Who does that?
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So, if Hope Hicks is his type or his daughter, does that mean he would have? I wonder what the romance was like while he cheated on his wives to bunk up with another? Geez, Donny is really stupid. Making a statement that to deny something in a fashion that supports committing a crime if the circumstances where different has been a hallmarks of his "genius". It's the kind of statement that would get him a Darwin Award, serve as a bit in a crime comedy or a chapter from Jimmy Breslin's "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight". As I write this, maybe this is what Donny's foreign policy is like not to mention his Cabinet; can't shoot straight, think straight, or speak straight.
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With Trump you can rest assured that if he did not sue, it must be true.
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Photographs of Ms Carroll taken twenty years ago when this allegedly occurred show that she was TOTALLY his type. I believe what she says.
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"he would not have assaulted her because “she’s not my type.”
Curious, I thought his type was a woman alone with him. Or is he saying that he would only assault women who are his "type?"
The fact that he has paid off at least a couple of women, been accused by a couple of dozen and been close friends with Jeffrey Epstein who likes, um, very young and vulnerable women points to a despicable man who might assault any woman.
I believe Ms. Carroll.
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“Standing with my coat on in a line?” Mr. Trump said. “Give me a break — with my back to the camera?"
But his back was not toward Ms. Carroll so he did meet her. Another stone on the Liar in Chief's mountain of bloopers.
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If she was older than 16 at the time, she was not his type.
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Listen to the interview of this woman that Anderson Cooper had. The say she has a disconnect with normal is an understatement.
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"... he insisted that he did not know her."
Right -- like he claimed he didn't know, or barely knew, Putin.
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Truly revolting . This woman is extraordinarily brave for exposing her story.
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This is the president of our country speaking this way about the violent sexual assault of women. It is a joke to him--as all of the despicable behavior he exhibits seems to be (at least to his sadly complicit supporters). But lest anyone forget--this is a criminal act that he is accused of--and not for the first time.
Sorry, Nancy, there is no excuse to be found anywhere for keeping this morally vapid creature in charge of our government.
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He needs to be placed on the national registry of sexual predators and not be allowed to give out candy on Halloween, live near a school, etc. and be ostracized from society.
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Hey, let's start believing competent, professional women when they report something that is this important to them. Trump is trusting the public to again ignore the testimony of a woman wronged. To my knowledge this makes 16 who have spoken out. Come on America, we have a self acknowledged rapist as president. What are you doing about it/
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In short, Trump would be willing to assault a woman if she were 'his type'.
it is outrageous that, once again, women who are assauilted take a back seat to political power and expediency, especially when it comes to Donald Trump, who is insanely Teflon in spite of severe, unprecedented scandals and incompetence.
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Who knows how many strange men Carroll invited into fitting rooms so she could model underwear for them? She could be confusing Trump with someone else.
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@Reader In Wash, DC - Really? That's what you're taking away from this? If so, then please tell me what the problem is with all the other women who've accused Trump of assault over the years. Are they confusing him with someone else, too?
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She's got lady parts. That's type enough. Or at least it was before the T went away.
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Folks: this is some sloppy reporting that mischaracterizes the president's quotes regarding two women who accused him of sexual assault (and note I am no fan of Mr. Trump's).
In the older post-encounter remarks, the president not only said the woman "wasn't my type" he added implications that she wasn't attractive (Look her up on Facebook, he suggested dismissively). An intended if not accomplished insult no doubt.
But in this more recent claim, he merely said the alleged victim "wasn't my type," and that simply is not an insult -- to her or to anyone.
Let the record reflect that there are plenty of women in this world I would classify as not my type (e.g., Marilyn Monroe), and I'm pretty certain most folks, if anything, would consider it an affront to my tastes than an insult to Ms. Monroe. And they would be right.
What isn't right is the reporters' analogizing Trump's comments and their relative similar effects. It is inaccurate and unfair and the Times should know -- and do -- better.
The president does plenty to denigrate himself, and almost daily. You really don't have to stretch the truth to make it so.
Thanks,
Paul
Read the New York Magazine cover story, people! Her story is not only about trump. He's just another name on a list of creeps, some rich and powerful, who inhabit a world that, if you believe the hype, everyone wishes they were part of.
I'm starting to think the reason he always gets away with it is because it's not his behavior that's the problem, it's that we're only now beginning to examine how we got to this point. It's a sick society that allows people like trump to flourish.
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So, if she were his type, then it would be plausible? Right?
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Her accusations may not hold water, but Trumps response is sickening and speaks volumes about his character (or lack thereof)
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The irony is unmistakable. How this nation has stooped so low that now "intent to harm" is considered acceptable is beyond acceptable. The icing on the cake is that "our" elected leader is accepting that he is capable of such action when the woman meets his "choice". America needs to hang their head in shame - we have dissolved into a nation of derogatory caricature .
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That “she’s not my type,” mutatis mutandis, was how Trump dismissed numerous sexual-assault and -harassment accusations against him by women. It’s astonishing that the man who claims to be a genius doesn't comprehend the hidden message his “she’s not my type” dismissal is conveying. It conveys that if she were his type, he would have raped her. Admittedly, his denial sounds hollow. One more reason why his denial wouldn’t wash: Lying comes to him as naturally as breathing.
If Ms. Carroll were the first woman to come forward with an accusation of this kind, we would have given our president, who masquerades as a friend of evangelicals, the benefit of the doubt. More than a dozen women have accused him of sexual misconduct. He settled two such accusations with cash. Some of the rest are waiting for his term as president to expire. A senseless Justice Department rule – that a president should not be sued while in office – is what stands in the way of their taking legal action against him right now. Let him not be under any illusion that his denial, tinged with insult, would work in a court of law.
There is one more thing that goes against Trump: Legal actions of this kind are not barred by the statute of limitation.
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What an utter shame to think we went from Barack Obama to this man. What an indelible blot he is on our national conscience. And how horrific it is that such accusations no longer elicit shock but merely a ho-hum response from the general public. Yes, we will move on from this man but we will struggle to move on from his horrific legacy. And somehow, I cannot help shrugging off the notion that a few singular individuals worked hard, and deliberately, to give us this man. These are the cynics who wanted to do nothing but "Make America Small Again".
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The response, "she's not my tyoe", is incriminating.
It implies that Trump isn't concerned that a woman has accused him of sexual assault, but that she wasn't good-looking enough for him to assault.
I have no doubt that Trump has sexually assaulted all of the women who have accused him. After all, he admitted that he, "could do anything" to women because he was famous.
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Anyone who believes this woman also would buy the Brooklyn Bridge. Her account of being raped in a department store fitting room by Donald Trump, one of the most recognizable people on the planet, is so fantastic as to be unbelievable. Couple that with scores of other accusations against men she says have sexually assaulted her since she was a young girl, plus a book just out that she needs to sell.
We have here a woman who says that she has spent her life stumbling from one sexual assault to the next. I'm sorry, but I flat don't believe it. Who, after being sexually assaulted numerous times, would invite a man she didn't know into a fitting room with her at a department store and suggest he model lingerie? That's her story, and she's sticking to it. The bigger question is, why is the media buying in?
Saw Carroll on CNN with Anderson Cooper last night, her second appearance of the day on the network, and she was flake job personified. This morning, you could read right through Alyisn Camerota as Camerota talked about the story. Camerota seems a pretty smart person, and I don't believe for a second that she believes Carroll.
We should never blame victims but in a case like this, we should hold the talking heads to account as they blather on about Carroll's Alice In Wonderland account as if there's zero question about her veracity. The tragedy is, there are lots of real victims out there, and this hurts them more than anyone.
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So famous midwest values o.k. with his response: I did not rape her because I was not sexually attracted to her??? Not because rape is a violent crime and wrong? God help pretty girls in the Midwest.
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If Trump is innocent and there is no proof, what of his recorded comment that "when you're rich they let you do it" - it being grabbing women by the private part? Yeah, that just REEKS of innocence and respect for women.
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Why now? Why not much earlier?
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@Anti Dentite
She’s slinging a book. There is nothing that will get you on Cable TV faster than accusing Trump of anything.
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It doesnt matter. Rape is an extremely traumatic experience for anybody. It might take victims years to build strength to confront their rapist.
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@TR88 She told her friends about it in real time--back before there was a book or a Pres. Trump. Also, he lied that he'd even known her; however, a photo shows otherwise.
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"She's not y type."
Of course not. We all know Trump's type is Ivanka.
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Or women from former Iron Curtain states close to Soviet Russia (and the current Russian leader, Putin's, anti-American, KGB past -- which seems never to have left him, so not so much in the past).
And speaking of his Iron Curtain, KGB-friendly wives and families, how are all of those "chain immigrants" he calls in-laws doing?? And how are his nest of "anchor babies" doing -- you know, Donny, Eric, Ivanka, and Baron (why didn't they just go ahead and name their kids King, Prince, Queen, and Baron? Or Duke or Earl?)
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@Voters Across
Hey! Ivana and Melania are proof that immigrants will take positions that Americans won't. ;«)
Are they all lying? I doubt it.
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I think she's sport-lying. New term, making up a story to generate clicks for a website et al. All in good fun, Trump can take the punches. Heck, I went to her website, to see who she was. Not like I ever read 'Elle', y'know.
H.L. Mencken (an early American newspaper pioneer) was quite candid in his later reminisces about how he and his other reporter pals used to just make things up to sell papers. If you've all forgotten, go watch 'Citizen Kane' again.
Of course that kinda thing never happens nowadays.
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To me, Trump's statement ‘she’s not my type’ is not an insult but instead the acknowledgment of sexual assault as a practice of Mr. Trump - under an irrelevant proviso. This is, in my opinion, much worse than an insult.
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Maybe this is just dumb, wishful thinking, but, from the excerpt I read of Ms. Carroll's book, she still has the coat-dress she was wearing. She put it in the back of her closet and hasn't cleaned it. Would his DNA still be on the coat? If so, that would, at the very least, prove that he is lying when he says he doesn't know her, lying about her "not being his type," and lying about never having pushed his hideous body up against hers.
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Do rapists really have a type? Other, that is, than a woman in a vulnerable situation.
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I am not goi g to state whether I think she is lying or telling the truth. I will say, however, that, as a criminal defense attorney for many years, the accuser’s story has quite a few holes in it. On a witness stand, she would be destroyed on cross examination by any competent attorney.
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His type, anyone that can wear a skirt is his type. Been in the real estate business and they will tell you anything/everything in order to make the deal.
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We need to remove both political parties. We elected Democrats into the house. They ran on impeaching Donald the Mad. The Democrats are as complicit as the Republicans now, in enabling this fool, by doing nothing. They lied to us again. Meanwhile the entire world suffers because of 38 per cent of this countries most ignorant, uneducated, WWF, opoid infused country bumpkins who’s only qualification to vote is that they have an opposable thumb, that allows them to push a voting button.
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I wonder if he popped a Tic-Tac first.
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Considering the volume of comments this story has generated, I do believe your readers are hoping the NYT will dig in to answer lingering questions. Can DNA analysis of the dress put Trump in the room, for instance? I still have a subscription (a print one, no less!) because I need the NYT to go beyond the headlines. I look forward to hearing more, very soon, because I fear our democracy may depend on it.
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An accusation like this, made against any of us who aren't the President, would immediately result in an arrest and criminal investigation. Why do neither ever occur when this President is involved, regardless of what we think is permissible under DoJ policy? No wonder Trump thinks he can get away with anything. He can.
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@Mike McD. There would be no arrest or investigations because she hasn't filed charges. She needs to do that.
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Except for statutes of limitation. Also, unfortunately, many a rape victim still finds law enforcement slow on the pickup -- all those untouched or disposed-of rape kits (collected evidence) are but one sign of that.
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I believe E. Jean Carroll.
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At least now, it is probably a mutual thing they can agree upon, - I imagine she felt then and would say today: “He is not my type.”
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"Oh, your Honor, I couldn't possibly have robbed that bank. I don't even have an account there."
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In the not so recent past, prominent men have lost their jobs or felt forced to resign from political office because women have said these men touched them in ways that made them uncomfortable.
Now, today, we have a president who has bragged on tape that he could grab women by their private parts with impunity because he was famous. A bakers dozen of women have come forward with accusations that he did a lot more than touch them, and yet, he seems to get a pass every time. Why isn’t the public, and more importantly, members of Congress, screaming for his resignation?
Is it because his tried and true formula of deny, deny, deny actually works? Or is it because they think what he has allegedly done is acceptable, that “ boys will be boys?” I find this ostrich-like behavior abhorrent. Demonstrations by women wearing pink hats are no longer enough. This man has no respect for women or the law. He us corrupting the office he swore to preserve and protect. He needs to go.
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For heaven's sake, how dim do you have to be (think Trump) to believe that sexual assault has to do with impassioned desire and not with the primal need to dominate everything you see as a threat. OTOH, I cannot imagine the circumstances that would have led me to accompany a male acquaintance into a dressing room at Bergdorf's. This is not to imply that it didn't happen, just that I can't comprehend Ms Carroll's thought process at the time.
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So, a 75-year old, who is promoting her new book, chooses this time to first claim that as a 51-year old she agreed, randomly, to model lingerie for a man she had, "best case," met briefly at a large social event 8 or 9 years earlier and that, while in the dressing room together (because, surely, no self-respecting, law abiding 50-year old would have been modeling lingerie "on the floor") he forced himself on her. The only way this story is credible is that, unless the accuser has just outright lost it, no person with even a modicum of intellect (to which she would apply a heap of premeditation before coming forward) would make up something so objectively incredible. You just can't make this stuff up . . . right?
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After her performance last night, she won’t be heard from ever again. The poor woman is not well.
Let’s go to a quick commercial.
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I am usually inclined to give the victim the benefit of the doubt.
However, perhaps due to trauma or any other number of plausible reasons on Ms. Carroll's part, I have a hard time believing that Trump got pass the entrance of the women's dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman. Men are not allowed back there at all.
I can only conclude that Ms. Carroll was so shocked and upset she got that detail wrong.
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Oh yeah, true, as said the guy: “impossible to rob that bank, they put the money in a safe!”.
Yeah, sure. A minimum salary saleswoman empowered enough by the store manager to say No to a supposedly wealthy guy. Trump himself is the best example: when you have money or people think you do, you can do whatever you want.
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It is entirely possible that he doesn’t remember her but it is hardly an exoneration. It’s more of a testimony to the number of his victims and his total disregard for women in general.
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Or to his mental fitness.
American voters must demonstrate that Mr. Trump is not our type by voting him out of office. What else do we need to know?
Thank you.
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It is a bit suspicious that E. Jean Carroll comes forward with these sexual assault accusations at the same time she is promoting her book. Why now? Does she hope to profit from these allegations in the way of book sales? It appears to be that way.
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It's pretty obvious by now Trump supporters' go-to move is to assert she would publicly and falsely accuse the president of rape in order to make money (despite her having told two people at the time who have confirmed it). Trump supporters will defend and justify anything he does. Even rape.
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Ms. Carroll was a former Miss Indiana University. That seems to be exactly his type.
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As usual with the Trump sexual assault accusers no witnesses, no proof, and no corraboration of the charges. But a book deal is in the works, so the accusation makes money for the accuser anyways.
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@paul
Thanks for admitting you didn't read the article: there are two accounts from people that heard about this incident in 1998.
Your response is based in misogyny and personal incredulity. It would be best if you just said you don't care.
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@Paul.. we have it in his own words from his own mouth on the Access Hollywood tape.
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@paul
Dear Paul,
What’s your opinion of the Access Hollywood tapes?
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I join all of you in the dismay that none of this matters to his supporters. But I wonder how many even know about the allegation and his response? It is not being reported on Fox News (at least the app) so they don't know about it. His supporters can't understand the hatred expressed toward their hero and I'm guessing that's because all they hear is how strong and amazing he is. What's the problem, they ask.
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@ds
You are correct, it is not on the fox news website.
I do not believe her. That ship has sailed.
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@Ryan
Yes, you do not care about sexual assault nor the double digits of women that have very similar stories to those trump himself described as his MO to Access Hollywood.
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@Ryan - My God! Stop the presses! Ryan in Bingham doesn't believe something and, more importantly, has declared "that ship has sailed"! Let's just forget this entire thing, shall we?
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Hopefully if you are ever a victim of a violent crime, including rape as men are raped too, people will not react towards you such compassion.
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Women do not publicize accusations sooner because they are not usually believed, and are widely trolled and threatened as a result of coming forward. Often coming forward only compounds the pain for person doing so and does not leave a mark on the perpetrator. Why do people keep blaming women for not coming forward sooner when that often endangers their career, their family, and their physical and mental health and safety?
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@hannah
"Why do people keep blaming women for not coming forward..."
Because it's a selfish decision that doesn't take into account the future victims of the same perpetrator who might well be saved from the same horrible experience and damage. And because it allows the perpetrator to escape justice.
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@hannah
They need to wait until they’re book is coming out.
@TR88
Or their book, if you prefer
Trump is an awful human being and a President bent on destroying this country. Anyone who supports and enables him are similarly awful. That's my view.
Congress would be impeaching him. I do not know why they are not. Him blocking oversight and blocking subpoenas should be reason enough alone. The charging document against this guy could go on for a thousand pages.
Impeach. Now.
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@Lawrence. What's the point of impeachment if the Senate won't vote to convict? Let's remember that the House alone can't remove him.
He lied...again.
All women are his type. He’s just plain filthy.
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Al Franken touched a couple of butts and he’s crucified. Trump has dozens of sexual assault allegations and what’s his punishment?
Nothing.
It’s America that’s being punished.
Every single day.
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That is why I will not only deny Gillibrand my vote but will actively campaign against her. Such indignation for a yes, very stupid,childish thing to do, yet she is pretty quiet right now about real sexual accusations. Overreaction as a political self-promotional strategy.
So if she was his type, he WOULD HAVE raped her?
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And that is the most horrifying part about the whole thing: Trump doesn't see anything wrong with rape as long as he is sexually attracted to the victim! That is the answer of a amoral sociopath with no sense of of right or wrong. No conscience.
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Dear President Trump: who is the type of person that you would rape?
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I highly recommend people read the New Yorker article before leaping to conclusions.
In a long introduction before getting to her Trump allegations, Ms. Carroll claims to have suffered violent sexual attacks numerous times, including as a young woman.
With that as background, she claims to have encountered Trump while exiting Bergdorf's when they were both in their 50's. Though public personalities, they had never met before. After mutual introductions, Trump asks her to help him buy a ladies gift. After getting nowhere with purses and fur hats, he suggests they move to the lingerie department. There, he selects a particularly filmy item and asks her to try it on. The fitting rooms are normally locked and have to be opened by one of the omnipresent attendants. As luck would have it, there is an open fitting room door and no attendant in sight. The alleged attack occurs in the fitting room.
You don't find these details in the secondary news accounts, including this one. Could it be because even seasoned Trump haters might wonder at the plausibility of a worldly-wise woman of a certain age, who had suffered sexual attacks previously, would would enter a dressing room with a perfect stranger to model lingerie ostensibly intended for another woman?
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@Lou Sernoff Count me in as a seasoned Trump hater but this does sound fishy. I was waiting for a bus on 57th and Madison one day and Trump walked by. He had an entourage of 8 or 9 people with him, which I'm sure is routine. The man is a lightning rod for attention, but he and a woman managed to slip into a dressing room at one of the busiest department stores in the city unnoticed? Really?
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@Lou Sernoff
So who is "his type," for raping?
Asking since you have read all the articles, and have insight on why women don't come forward sooner. You also seem to have zero problem with that weird phrase, nor the Access Hollywood tape, nor the amount of accusers, nor the amount of documented lies he's told.
Based of a careful reading of your comment you seemed to like being lied to and exhibit misogyny. It would be more truthful if you just said you don't care.
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@Lou Sernoff
She did not agree to model the lingerie; read the article.
And to think he’s the standard bearer of the “Christian Family Values Party.”
Just goes to show how empty and meaningless Christianity has become in this country. Christianity is no longer a religion but a political movement.
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I hope more women come out before the election and embarrass this immoral man. How his wife stays with him . She broke up his 2nd marriage being the other women. The whole Trump clan is immoral ,don’t pay taxes and abused to many women. The churches just stay with him for the free tax breaks or buying votes.
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"Money makes the world go 'round'
I suppose this means that if 'she was my type' then Mr. Trump would have sexually assaulted her. What a perverse argument and denial.
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What is his preferred type when deciding whom to rape?
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I don't understand why him being accused of rape isn't headline news. What is wrong with this newspaper?
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So basically Trump's defense is that she was not low-class enough for him to rape her, suggesting that he believes it is his right to rape any woman he finds attractive. Nice.
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So, if she "were his type" he would have no problem raping her?
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Why is this the fourth headline down on the website? She is the 16th woman to make an allegation of assault by the President of the United States. Women are half of the population.
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Trump's not my type.
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Alas, the White House stays insulated from the formidable #MeToo movement for now.
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Why are these women using the word assault, when it was a felony rape, was it rape or what?
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Rape is not a legal term. Sexual assault is the legal term.
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@hugo. All cases were dropped. What language would you like?
@Jackson
Wrong, Jackson. All cases have not been dropped. Where did you get that false information, I wonder?
There are over 1,000 comments here. I'm very saddened that it counts for nothing. Every day Americans along with citizens of other countries, make their voices heard in this paper. Where are the lawmakers who are not responding to our civil discourse? Mitch McConnell? Lindsey Graham? Do you believe we have sunk as low as you and the President? Kevin McCarthy? The always-smiling so-called economist in the Cabinet? Do any of you read or care what we think? Is that a no? So your buddy wants to b;ow up Iran and continue to haphazardly deny the rape allegations. Have you no shame? I fully expect Trump will come very very close to killing us all.
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Accusations are facts right?
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I luv that answer
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Rape. Child abuse. Sexual assault. Sexual harassment. Tax fraud. Tax evasion. Embezzlement. Theft. Draft evasion. Obstruction of justice. Campaign finance fraud. Business fraud. Bankruptcy. Slander. Racial discrimination in housing.
The House seems to think we don't have enough to start impeachment proceedings. The Constitution is moot.
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So what you're saying Mr. President is that if she 'was your type... you would have attacked her.'
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Is Ms. Carroll is not Trump's "type," does that mean he would have sexually assaulted her if she was? That is the logical conclusion. Women to Trump are disposable objects. Shame on the Trump voters who chose to ignore the misogyny of this man.
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Uncorroborated attacks over 20 years old written now that she is trying to sell a book! Call me a skeptic but this is more nonsense that does a disservice to true victims of sexual abuse.
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@samuel Just to be clear, the position of Trump supporters is that this woman, a public figure for decades, is lying about the president--publicly accusing him of rape--in order to sell books, and that she is not a "true" victim of sexual abuse. She just made it up in order to make some money. And the 20-plus other women who have accused him of sexual abuse--they're all lying too, even though they don't have books to sell. All these women are lying. That's your position?
Take your time.
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@samuel it strikes me you’d disbelieve her no matter what.
[two fingers in mouth] Hey, SKEPTIC!
He's not my type. I expect he's not 60,000,000 Americans type, not to mention the millions of foreigners who find him objectionable. He's not our type, unless you listen to fox entertainment or haven't read the Mueller report or haven't any democratic friends or think Portland, Oregon is a horrible place to live because it's too liberal...
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On CNN with Anderson Cooper did she really say that rape was a popular fantasy?
One wonders what her state of mind was at the time she says this occurred?
And, if you were raped would you ever refer to it as a fantasy?
It's hard to believe this woman.
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@Margo
You also don't believe the 2 women that heard this in the 1990's.
You don't believe the double digits of women that have experienced similar things from trump.
You don't care about the Access Hollywood tape where trump expresses his MO.
You don't care that trump says there's a type he's into raping.
You don't care about all the documented lies he's told.
You don't care.
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For years the memory was repressed...until she wrote a book. It's a publicity stunt, plain and simple.
Perhaps, if publishers were to provide a reasonable amount of advertising for the books they publish, authors would not have to do this kind of thing.
And, of course, as with everything else, Trump manages to jump in and work it to his advantage.
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Unfortunately for Ms. Carroll, the sheer volume of these horrific memories has reduced them from sensational and serious to routine and insignificant. Worse, the failure of Democrats to prosecute Trump for his crimes, the complicity of Republicans in abusing presidential authority, and the steady stream of LIES coming from Trump, every single day, have created a level of what's-the-use complacency in the public.
It is frustrating that the citizens can do little about this situation. The best approach seems to be not the general election, but the Congressional elections. If Republicans are reduced to the minority in both houses, then perhaps Democrats will summon the courage to bring Trump to justice for all that he has done.
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Accusations are facts right?
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I, and many others, are sick of this predator and the causal indifference to the allegations against him. He must go.
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He said, "She's not my type," because he was making a joke to his base. He knows that they think that sort of thing is funny. We can never separate Trump's behavior from his base. He consciously plays to them. Without them, he's nothing.
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Stop. Stop. Stop. Anybody who still defends or justify this sorry excuse of a man is just as bad as he is. Based on his history including accusations of rape by his first wife, he has demonstrated to he an amoral sociopath who can't tell wrong from right.
The logical conclusion then being, is she was, he would. So how many others HAVE there been?
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The House Democrats need to add this to their list of criminal behavior to investigate. Trump thinks he can get away with just denying these claims when 22 women have now accused him of sexual harassment or rape. It’s going to continue until he is held accountable. There has to be some evidence somewhere for one of these crimes. It would also be powerful for the public to hear testimony from these women.
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Considering how relatively common sexual assault is (me, and many other people I know), and given Trump’s professed attitude toward women, I am puzzled why some (ie Trump supporters) seem to have hard time believing he is capable of this. Just the expression not my type is demeaning but it does not treat women (or men) as individuals, especially in the way Trump says this. Sometimes we might be surprised that someone would do this, but I don’t see how anyone could be surprised about Trump. Disappointed and upset, but not surprised.
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He's not capable of much of anything these days. This White House's flag is permanently at half staff, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
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Given Trump's 1980s/ 90s status as a NY publicity hound, and his racial obsessions, it is next to impossible that Trump did not know Ms. Carroll, since apart from her own media presence, she was the attractive wife of one of the leading New York television anchors, channel 7's John Johnson, who was black. Photo or no photo, he knew her.
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I wonder why you put his response 'She's Not My Type' in the headline. It turnes against the victim. We all know how he operates & I don't want to read about it anymore. But I do care about how she feels ... being raped and now on top reading this headline. And I do want to read about him facing consequences.
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Perhaps this man could enlighten us as to who "his type" is so they can be warned.
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Does not Trump’s denial amount to calling his accuser a liar? If so, does she now have a defamation case based on Trump’s slander and libel?
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“She’s not my type?” Doesn’t this sound as if Trump is admitting that yes, he might have sexually assaulted several women in the past, but they had to be “his type?”
A pathetic defense if there ever was one!
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Doesn't saying "she's not my type" mean that if she was his type, he would have raped her, as he was accused of doing by so many women?
Are these women just doing this for their own benefit?
Obviously not, cause there is no benefit whatsoever in the public humiliation they continue to get from the misogynist Trumpers, who will stand by all his lies, no matter what.
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Seems the best way to garner attention for one’s latest book is to say you were sexually assaulted by Trump or at least someone who looked like Trump. I’m having a garage sale next weekend and will be talking to the press about Trump trying to grope me when I was last in the States. No early birds please. Interviews will be given with each purchase.
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White women vote for Trump in 2020 again!!! Trump is a backlash against having an African American as president for eight years. Racism is well and alive. Reelect Trump to women's peril, it is so "smart" as long as we crush Blacks and other minorities, who care if Trump undoes all the progress women made over decades of struggle. It is scary...
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Rape is an act of aggression of power over another human being, not of regular sexual relations. Sex acts may be the vehicle for the aggression, but it is not the the driver.
Rape, like numerous other acts of violence, is an intensely narcissistic act of denying (sometimes not even registering) the victim's full personhood, and instead allowing one's own need gratification (at its core the need to feel powerful, dominant, and the center of all) to override or in one's own mind to obliterate all but one's self/one's own needs or wishes.
Where and when have we witnessed that dynamic before, when it comes to the current boss of the White House?
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The sickness represented by Trump, his administration and their Republican lackeys is the worst thing that has happened to the USA in modern history. Trump has bragged in public about molesting women and has told more than 11,000 documented lies since in office. Put these facts together along with his feeble "not my type" denial. The Republicans, including Republican women still stand with Trump. Have they no shame whatsoever?
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Safe to say, he is not her type either! In fact...whose type would he be...really? Maybe Siri????
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Trump himself bragged about his ability to do these types of things to women whenever he wanted with Billy Bush. The fact she told others about the attack when it occurred gives additional credibility. When will people realize we have a very corrupt narcissistic President who deflects and lies to protect his image.
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Watching her cable news interviews reveals that this woman is mentally unstable and/or way into the cups. She needs help; and quickly. Shame on the media for exploiting this woman just to "get Trump." Does the media have any shame?
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More than you do, Henry.
Thanks for asking. Run along now
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"‘She’s Not My Type’: Accused Again of Sexual Assault, Trump Resorts to Old Insult"
Okay, Mr. Trump! Let's accept your statement that "she is not your type". But, then, that very statement would be your admission that, if she had happened to be your type, you would have done it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have indeed a "stable" genius here! Don't be surprised if all fillies barge out, once he steps in!
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It's odd that he always reverts to his 'not my type' defense before he ever tries to claim marital fidelity . . . well I guess he ultimately found Marla Maples to be his type while cheating on Ivana . . . only to later assault E Jean Carroll while married to Maples. Anyone have lechery bingo cards?
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If you support this President, please look yourself in the mirror and say, "what would I do if President Obama had been accused of this?" Be honest.
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Another woman has come forward to accuse President Obama of sexual assault in connection with an alleged rape that took place in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room. This brings the total of sexual misconduct allegations against President Obama to 23...any different reaction from republicans?
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Don't understand why the NY Times would continuously encourage trump's disgusting insults to women by stating said insult in a headline as if it were news. I mean, what's the point? There is no point. Just the shoddy composition of a click-bait headline. trump's contempt for his fellow humans, especially women, is well-known. The media helps perpetuate his revolting behavior by repeatedly printing and thereby, preserving his insults as if they are a legitimate defense - as if they were 'news.' They are not even clever insults. I understand the need to make money, to draw readers, but heaven help us, there has to be a better way.
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Trump’s response regarding this latest description of rape repeats his past denials ,allegations that his accusers are lying & criticizing the victim’s looks/demeanor. What he does is reveal his contempt for women and disregard of laws against sexual predators.
Any woman who can actually vote for Trump disrespects herself and etches into the fabric of America misogyny on steroids. It is shameful that this man sits in the White House and is the President of our beautiful country.
His daughters’, wifes’ and family’s denials to the contrary are not credible. This man disrespects women. Claims otherwise are belied by his comments and treatment of women. He is a serial sexual offender. There is a felon in the White House supported by the Republicans in the Senate and born again Christians. Despicable is the word that comes to mind.
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For once I agree with Trump. E. jean Carroll is not his type. She is smart, fun, attractive and lives in reality. Trump's type is Melania who keeps repeating to Be Best, whatever that means.
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Not his type? All a person has to be is female and (hopefully) adult to be his type.
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Sexual assault, groping and rape has nothing to do with the looks of anyone. It’s not even about the sex. It’s about power. He is addicted and obsessed with power that he thinks he has. His “power” is in his pocket. Just ask all the previous women that he’s assaulted, groped, and raped how much money he paid them to drop charges or just not to talk.
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I don’t doubt her account and I’m a trump hater but I can’t shake the notion that Carroll is deplorable in that she’s bringing up this encounter to sell her book.
Shame on her.
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Many men go through their lives without ever being accused of sexual assault. Trump is not one of those men.
Even in his "prime" with "so much money" and model wives, he resorted brute force on a whim. The common denominator among his accusers is his opportunistic clumsiness.
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"She's not my type," he says. Well, anyone who would find Mr. Trump their type is, like Mr. Trump himself, deplorable.
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Donald Trump has forever glorified two phrases: "she's not my type" and "lock her up" referring to two extremely smart women who are his superior in every way possible.
No Trump, you're not my type and I would love to lock you up!
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Republican ladies still? I'm sure that millions of Bible-Thumping ladies will be hanging-in with Trump until the days they die - and will assume that they'll meet him in heaven. And after Trump is toppled, many of them will be furiously crying for their political saviour for decades afterward. Sweet Christian ladies. Ahhh, that Donald Trump is precedent-setting. IF a Democratic Party President was under these sorts of allegations over years and causing such furious debates about his/her personal misbehavior, the Republicans would be even ANGRIER and more vile-spitting than the Democrats are today. And they would openly despise the President because of his crimes, sins and never-ending misbehaviour. Their Bibles would likely be waved in the air many times. It's so obvious that so many of the ladies in the Republican Party find their political goals to be far more important for them than the president's crimes and Christian sins.
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Explain to me the motivation of a female willing to model lingerie before a male not her husband or boyfriend seemingly a stranger in the privacy of a fitting room?
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They were flirting, she suggested he model the lingerie. She recognized it was a mistake to go into the dressing room. Regardless, why does any of it matter? A woman makes a bad decision and therefore it is her fault for being raped?
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GOP's silence on these accusations is deafening. Their base cheers to whatever he says, whomever he belittles. It makes us wonder what kind of twisted society we have become - where rapists have types, calling names is an honest rebuke, women are objectified, lies are facts, and people live in 'echo-chambers'.
Heartbreaking!
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It's time to recognize the fact that the Republican Party supports this kind of reprehensible behavior because this criminal president supports their cause. All past recognition of this party as just, conservative and honorable goes out the window. This party is a total disgrace to our country, its history, and human integrity.
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Why do you have a story that has Donald Trump’s take as the headline after admittedly under-covering her accusation. Did you fact check his disavowal with four independent sources as that was your reason for not running her story?
"E. Jean Carroll, a columnist for Elle magazine, said in a CNN interview on Monday that she fought back when Donald Trump sexually assaulted her in a Bergdorf Goodman fitting room."
But she says what happened to her, including unconsented penetration, was not rape. What kind of nonsense is that? Rape is a crime defined by what occurred, not a matter of opinion. What she described was rape.
She would have been wise to bite off a piece of his ear, and mark him forever, not to mention having a biologically unique identifier of the criminal, that would be proof positive of his guilt.
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Rape has nothing to do with being someone's 'type.' It is a violent expression of power.
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I see that the latest ad hominem attack being used is "she's writing a book."
Used by Senator Jordan with Michael Cohen.
It's fallacious.
Writing a book does not disprove the validity of her claims.
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Can someone please clarify for me? I heard an attorney on TV say there's no statute of limitations on rape in NY state. I verified that on google. Yet she (Carroll) has said it's beyond the limitations and she refuses to press charges. Who's right? And why doesn't she press charges?
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In and about 2006 the statute of limitations for rape was eliminated. Rapes committed prior to 2006 were subject to 5 year statute of limitations. This conduct is alleged to have occurred in the 1990’s, thus it is barred by the statute of limitations.
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@Susan Dorfman
Thanks so much for clarifying.
Well of course he used the present tense. He’s moved on from “that” to assaulting a plate of burgers, fries, coke and two scoops of ice cream with his pie. I’m guessing is type is Type 2.
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Three years ago this would have been major news with daily coverage in all media, nowadays even Democrats have resigned themselves to the fact that Teflon Don will not face any consequences for his decades long mass abuse of women, and that he has the repulsiveness to even joke about his victims' accusations. And the world looks on...
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Trump 2020: He's a Mensch.
Not here type now, because she is an older women. Was back then. You can see the pattern of Trump's hunt for younger females.
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Just like the accusations about Kavanaugh--more accusations that do not have a witness and are probably fabrications. Good way to sell a book.
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Not being Trump's type? What more could you ask for...
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"She's not my type"
What does that mean? Every other women who "is his type" if fair game for Trump to assault?
We know he has a history of walking into teenage girl's locker rooms at his beauty pageants.
Are those girls his type?
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Not his type? Right...educated, American, independent. Is he saying that it would be true if she was his "type"?
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There seems to be no limit to the horrible actions and attitudes of our "porn star affair" President. The "not my type" professions of innocence when accused of sexual assault are beyond offensive. Just as offensive is the belief by this horrible person that this is somehow proof of his innocence. In fact, it only begs the question, "So what is the type that justifies an unwelcome sexual assault by you?"
I find it incomprehensible that we have actually put this horrible human being into the oval office and that he is supported not only by millions of Republican voters but a significant number of Congressional Representatives and Senators.
How many tax cuts for those at the top of the income inequality scale and judicial appointments does it take to balance the scales with his horrible attitudes and actions.
I watch the news daily and weep for the young children suffering the consequences of his inhuman immigration policies. January 20th 2021 cannot come soon enough.
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Once again, for the people in the back. Rape/sexual assault is not sex. Rape/sexual assault is a crime. It is a felony. It is a violent personal attack. For someone to claim "she's not my type" is beyond the pale, and only proves the person making that statement does not understand or respect the victim.
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His "type" for sexual assault? Once again, confusing consensual sex with someone who is your "type" for a violent assault. No wonder we are still dealing with this issue. As long as sexual assault is conflated with consensual sex (based on any metic of attraction) we are hopelessly doomed. The Republican party no longer has a foot, let alone toe, to stand on when it comes to violence, moral rectitude, or any other pablum its peddled since the 1980s.
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"She's not my type": explanation to current partner.
[corollary: you're my type, accusation can't be true]
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Yang2020.com because we can do better than this.
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This is the new journalism. White House correspondents are writing veiled advertising copy for the latest tell-all book. If you pay attention, every time someone writes a book and needs to boost the sales the author makes some outrageous, topical claim or accusation that the media empire immediately takes up to create a buzz. The authors do interviews, appearances, write op-ed articles, etc. I bet it's all part of the calculated plan and program by the publishers when they agree to promote a book.
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The book is memoir, with a relatively brief mention of the encounter with Trump, this is hardly a “tell all”. White House correspondents are covering it because one of the hideous men described in the book is now President of the United States. Seems reasonable to me.
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@C. M. Jones
You haven't been paying attention. This is a recurring, routine pattern whenever some marginally known public person writes a book. It's so routine there has to be an instruction manual on the practice among book publishers and aspiring writers.
Um, okay, so if a woman IS his type, he would assault her? That's the implication of his statement.
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The mystery is that Trump thinks he's any woman's type. Any intelligent woman, that is. There's absolutely nothing remotely appealing about this man. Never has been.
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I believe this woman. Her interview in "New York Magazine" includes the fact that she was older than him at the time, that he seemed friendly while she helped him choose a gift, that she knew who he was and that she was having an enjoyable time -- until he attacked her in the dressing room.
She described how Trump inserted himself, admitting she couldn't tell if it was fully or partially. The article describes E.Jean Carroll's describes 21 most revolting men in her life, of which Trump was the last. She has not had sex since. Link: https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html
Her accusation is not surprising, given Trump's bragging about doing whatever he wants with women...kissing, genital grabbing. Citing media fatigue from so many similar stories against Trump, all major news outlets buried Ms. Carroll's story. This is a shame, making them complicit in Trump's sexual violence against women.
Trump's a crude, abusive bully, whose record of lies told while in office, over 10,000, gives credence to anyone saying he attacked them. He abuses his Presidential power and ignores the will of Congress.
His life before election was comprised of cheating contractors, cheating on his wives, cheating on his taxes, fighting lawsuits in court -- his preferred milieu, and going bankrupt.
So of course he did it, and of course he lies about it. This woman has far more credibility than he.
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E. Jean Carroll gives women yet another example of why it is imperative to report rape or any form of violence immediately and get a rape test done in a hospital setting as soon as possible. The trauma of rape lasts a lifetime - but reporting it immediately and having the test done gives the victim a sense of empowerment within herself to draw on while destroying the power the rapist believed he had over her at the time of the rape. And then the healing process can begin. The act of rape never fully heals but the psychic pain can significantly diminish. More so when reported immediately.
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@kkm Great advice for going forward after #Me Too which still has a long way to go before victims will feel safe to report. It is still far to risky with the negatives outweighing the benefits. The burden on the accuser is so heavy that victims will still hesitate to report to authorities while they are still in a state of shock.
Applying that advice retroactively to a time when her friends advised her of those risks is not helping. The risks of more damage were very real and kept most victims from reporting.
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@kkm I don't understand how you can make a statement that reporting a rape immediately gives a victim a sense of empowerment. And that's what's needed for healing to begin. Really? No, that is not a true statement - for many victims they cannot / will not report a rape for numerous reasons. Including fear of not being believed, having 'asked for it' ( I was raised in an extremist right wing evangelical church where as a teenage girl, I was told that if I wore a short skirt and was raped, it was my fault. Boys can't help themselves) Or fear of retribution, or being ostracized. Especially when the charge is made against someone famous. Your statement has implications of blaming the victim for not reporting and/or doing so immediately, but making a blanket statement as you did only adds to the shame and guilt many feel.
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Why do you seem to think that's easy to do? Just look at all the people accusing her of lying. What makes you think she would have been believed then? Don't you think she would have faced the same shaming and accusations of lying and trying to profit off of Trump? Do you think she didn't feel threatened, that she wouldn't have to worry about her life imploding because he was famous and could pull strings?
And as for rape kits, there are literally thousands if not a hundred thousand rape kits sitting on shelves that go back years and are still waiting to be tested.
I believe her. I believe them all.
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Accused of behavior he had bragged about captured on tape; why not take a polygraph?
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People have constantly approached Trump as a mischievous boy. For some reason they remain blind to his very dark side until it can be too late.
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The difference this time (should we need it) is that I believe Ms. Carroll kept the dress. Might there be DNA?
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Trump has not said he would never assault a woman. He has not said he has never assaulted a woman. Rather he says he did not assault his accusers because they are not his "type." Does that mean he did, or would, assault those who are his "type?" His contempt for women - and for the law (remember that assault is also a legal issue) - is amazing and shameful.
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It's not necessarily an insult...
OK. So she's not his type.
By saying that, he's saying he would NOT attack a woman who is NOT his type.
This is a contrapositive, a double negative. What it really means is:
I would attack a woman who is "my type."
OR
If she was my type, then I might have attacked her.
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I am sure Donald Trump was not HER type either. But did she get a choice?
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Do all conservatives want their children and grandchildren to be just like Trump? He is Every Mother'w Nightmare.
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We must always speak out whenever we're ready and where. Book or no book. E. Jean Carroll is brave knowing all of the backlash she would get, not just from Trump. The same exact type of sexual assault happened to me 40 years ago by my boss in my office. I fought him off too. He was large too. It's amazing we can get away from such big, morally corrupt and entitled men, but I fought like a wild cat. Sounds like E. Jean Carroll did too. There can never be too many accusations for men like these. There can never be too many stories. The man who assaulted me passed away a decade ago. But if he were still alive, it would have taken me until #MeToo to be even able to speak about it.
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One might well infer from Trump's comment, "She's not my type," that he only assaults women who are his type.
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I suggest that the readers of this article take a look at the photo of Ms. Carroll from the same period that appears in the latest issue of New York magazine. It shows a stunningly beautiful woman who looks like just Trump's "type." The magazine story also includes another photo of Trump (from behind) and Wife #1 (Ivana) chatting with Ms. Carroll and another guy.
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Here we go again! Didn't the Left get the message? This type of attack does not work. Especially when the Left puts these women up to make these claims. Why didn't this woman come forward when the event happened? Did she just now remember? What a joke! Let's get back to Making America Great Again and Keeping it Great! I support the President. I support Trump. America first! Never again last as was before! Thank you.
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Sorry, I need proof before convicting a person of a crime, even in the ‘court of public opinion’. Trump is innocent until proven guilty, as should any American. I cannot stand Trump as a man or president, but I’m not willing to give up the bill of rights to attack him. Shame on liberals for equating accusations with guilt or wrongdoing.
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It’s not even that this is number how many he has been accused of such crimes but how he reacts. Words matter. So think of that. She’s not up to his standards so he wouldn’t...otherwise he...?
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To Trump, the charge has no content. He does not have a guilty conscience - because he says it is false. Therefore, she is using a claim of rape for purposes of destroying him, not for purposes of seeking justice. So, he turns around and destroys her, as a woman, and a person. It makes sense if it is a false claim. To Trump, she is not a victim on the victim hierarchy. She is an attacker, herself. I get it.
Public cases where there were multiple victims of sexual assault and significant time had passed. There is little or no evidence of the victim's claims. Most importantly, reporting it did not trigger significant repercussions:
Dr. Paul Nassar
Bill Cosby
Harvey Weinstein
R. Kelley
Jerry Sandusky
Public influence and financial means carries a heavier weight than justice in the US legal system. Until you embarrass leadership or law enforcement over their inaction and neglect of protecting the community, they will do nothing. That means that these type of serial sexual assaulters will get to rack up many victims before the tide will turn, if it ever does...
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Insult?
Sounds like a compliment to me.
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Ms. Carroll described Trump in her article as "that real estate guy" and he addressed her as "the TV advice lady ." Trump is/was such a publicity hound he saw an opportunity to get his name on television. His libido did the rest. I believe Ms. Carroll; the young Trump Tower receptionist the President kissed without permission and the 12 other women.
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I am very sympathetic with women who have been sexually assaulted, even decades ago. I would like for them to see justice. But at the same time there are serious problems raised by allegations concerning events that occurred decades ago. Human memory is notoriously imperfect.
In some cases, though certainly not the majority, there may even be deliberate false accusation. Just as it is usually impossible to prove a he said/she said accusation concerning decades old events, it is equally impossible to defend against them.
In this country, it is innocent until proven guilty, at least for criminal cases. And that's the way it should be.
It has become all to common to substitute "guilty until proven innocent." That's a dangerous and slippery slope. We, the public, the media, and the courts, need to be cautious in how we respond to allegations regarding behavior and events that occurred long ago.
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I immigrated to this country almost 50 years ago. I have liked it less and less since the time of Reagan and now I don't fully recognize it.
I regret letting my Canadian permanent residence expire in my twenties and now I am too old to go someplace else.
One hears: "This too shall pass".
I'm not sure that it will.
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I am always intrigued by the comments reminding us that an accusation is not proof, because the American system of jurisprudence regards a defendant as innocent until proven guilty. I wish I had a time machine so I could discover how these readers responded to the charges against the Central Park 5 or O J Simpson.
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Add his denial to the 10K + lies he is documented as having made during his administration. Good for Ms. Carroll. You are courageous for coming forward.
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Sad to say these accusations are not a deal breaker for the American public. Consider this: 54% of college educated women voted for Trump in 2016.
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@marrt. That statement is quite incorrect.
You’ll notice that Trump has never sued any of his accusers of libel. That is simply because the defense to libel is the truth and he cannot afford to have the truth come out.
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@LAM
Neither have the Clintons.
We know who he is. The concern is those who refuse to know or know and refuse to acknowledge.
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Thank you for your courage Ms. Carroll
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Assuming Ms. Carroll is truthful, another shocking, dehumanizing and brutal act committed by the man who is president.
Is this worthy of further investigation? Yes, IMO, in light of the man's past statements and number of similar allegations against him.
So, who takes this further? Journalists report; statutes of limitation likely bar any local law enforcement investigation, as well as a civil suit by Ms. Carroll.
I see two solutions; Sooner: congressional investigation and impeachment and Later: Vote him out. That's getting rid of him, but it's not justice.
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I fail to see how ever again this country can credibly question the moral character of any candidate for public office after Trump.
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"I want women to know that I did not stand there. I did not freeze. I was not paralyzed, which is a reaction I could have had because it was so shocking. No, I fought."
I want women to know that if you have been in a similar situation and you did react by freezing, there is nothing wrong with you. You did not fail. Freezing is a natural response to trauma. Just because you couldn't fight back doesn't mean you wanted it. It doesn't matter how you reacted. If someone assaults you, they have committed a crime whether you froze or fought.
Just a reminder to anyone reading who needs to hear this. You are not lesser for how you reacted in a situation you didn't consent to be in the first place.
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He said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. Someone stop me when I get to twenty four.
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Let's live to see the day we all come forward to voice: Trump is not my type. Not in the nineties, not in the 2000's, not in outer space.
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Has book coming out. Decides the best time in 20 years to go public is when her book comes out.
Sad how transparent this is.
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Trump's "she's not my type" denial of sexually assaulting Ms. Carroll consists as an admission in the fields of law and logic, generally referred to as a "negative pregnant." I learned this in law school over half a century ago and am surprised that no commenter has apparently brought this up. (I say "apparently" because I've not read all of the 1111 published readers' comments as of this instant.)
AS best as I recall, the great Judge Learned Hand once concluded that a negative pregnant denial is, indeed, an admission of sorts. does anyone with a somewhat better memory recall the details?
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@Giskander I'm not a lawyer and I'm not familiar with the phrase "negative pregnant". However, what "she's not my type" did remind me of was the phrase "non-denial denial" make famous by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward in "All the President's Men"!
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@Giskander
"negative pregnant... a denial of an allegation in which a person actually admits more than he/she denies by denying only a part of the alleged fact".
So while one might on first take interpret "No. 1, she's not my type" to mean to mean that if she were his type, he would have assaulted her, the more congruent interpretation would be, "she's not my type, but I do have a type I have attacked and raped".
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@Giskander Laurence O'Donnell on MSNBC brought this up as did others.
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This is why The Base LOVES Trump! He really knows how to denigrate, disrespect and minimize the humanity of women.
It goes along with the Forced Birth policy he supports, and his lack of interest in women' rights in general. The Base LOVES it!
It fits with fundamental religious orthodoxy and today's "conservative" mindset. It's Trump's key to competitiveness in 2020.
It's also a testimony to the pitiful state of America, that he has such support. Apparently, to about 40% of the country, nothing really matters anymore.
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Time is up on the accusation. We have statutes of limitations to ensure timely and speedy judicial process. She should’ve spoke then because now it’s irrelevant judicially
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Based on what we have been reading about sexual assaults it seems that sex does not mean anything and is of no cause of concern in the highest offices of our country. The other world is much more sensitive to sex related issues including our western partners and not to say middle east,Asia etc. I think we as a nation take the matter seriously and tune ourselves with the world ways and opinions and the consequences of such episodes.
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For me, political memoirs aren't a favored literary genre, but I savor the thought that someday, and maybe not far off, we will learn the views of Trump's counterparts on the world stage -- including what went through their minds when they heard of incidents like this.
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Of course, the clear implication in his come-back is that if she was 'his type,' he'd have no problem raping her.
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Doesn’t matter. He’s still President because our system allows. Crooks and rapists can be presidents and federal Supreme Court judges. Let’s fix that Dems., OK?
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Wait! Soooo, is Trump saying that if she was his type he might have attacked her? Sick.
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She didn't say he asked her to date, she said he raped her. Rape doesn't have a 'type' it has a target.
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One might assume that a rapist is not Ms. Carroll’s type either.
If she was his type, would Mr. Trump admitted the rape?
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First of all it sickens me to hear the leader of our country speak such ignorance. Secondly, being someone's "type" has nothing to do with sexual assault. Criticizing someone's appearance is juvenile and ridiculous. How can anyone cheer this man on when he criticizes someone's appearance? Oh right....we are talking about some of his supporters! All I can say is that 2020 cannot arrive soon enough; this juvenile behavior does not belong in the White House.
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This teflon president never fails to be blunt and abusive, but let's turn the headline back on our Tweeter-in-Chief: 'He's Not My Type' of representative to lead our country. His example and comment are truly heinous, but he'll just move forward in his insulated world, free, amazingly, from the self-loathing that any normal individual would feel if one made this allegation, at least some compassion rather than hackles and hurled stones would register his humanity.
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If she would press charges, there is no statute of limitation for first degree sexual assault in NY. We all deserve justice. No one is above the law.
About the talk that Ms. Carroll isn't Individual 1's "type" because of her age.
I'm a 67 year-old woman. Three weeks ago I narrowly escaped a physical sexual assault from a man who was exposing himself to me and masturbating. He was a total stranger. I was walking to my train station on my way to work, in broad daylight, not long before rush hour.
Age or attractiveness has nothing to do with sexual assault. It's about power.
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@Patty Quinn I'm sorry that happened to you. As someone who has connected with many sexual assault survivors, and being a survivor myself, I have found that many don't fit into the stereotypical rape victim mold of pretty, small, white, college aged girl. Please do not feel alone.
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@Patty Quinn
Don't flatter yourself. Exhibitionist like being seen. A 67 year was safe. Did he try to grab you? Thought not.
I’m sure Trump wasn’t her type either but that didn’t stop him from raping her.
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We collectively grow numb knowing that Trump seemingly never tells the truth, and, of course, he continues to get away with it thanks to a GOP dominated Senate that refuses to acknowledge that their leader is a deranged pervert.
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"You don;t have to wait. You can just kiss them and they will let you do it when you are a star." Rape is an opportunity. Of course she was Trump's type. She was in a cubbyhole, with him, wearing lingerie. What more do you need to know?
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A rapist doesn't have a type.
By claiming a woman is not his type, Trump engages in the disgusting, misogynistic trope that only good looking women get raped.
Can Trump be any more vile?
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I cannot imagine having a rapist as president of my country. He’s not my type !!
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Why would she lie?
Why would he lie?
She's a magazine columnist.
He's a professional liar (10,000 and counting).
More depressing is that our country is now quite unfazed by having a rapist as president.
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He thinks he is every woman’s type?🙈
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By saying, "She's not my type," Trump implies that he does have a type of woman he would sexually assault, doesn't he?
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The corollary to "I wouldn't assault her because she's not my type" is "If she was my type I would have."
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There are only two words that matter: due process. Whether you believe her account or not, everyone is entitled to due process. There are good men and bad men, good women and bad women, honest men and dishonest men, honest women and dishonest women. It's human nature, that's why due process exists and why we don't live in the wilderness.
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Unfortunately, this Justice Dept has concluded that Trump is above the process of due process (i.e. he can't be indicted). How do you reconcile that?
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@Michael
Due process in court has apparently far different standards for the very wealthy and powerful. There are reasons why so many ordinarily very strong women do not press sexual assault charges? Why do you think that happens? How will that change? What needs to happen?
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@Micheal
Apparently sitting presidents can’t be charged with crimes...so no due process for victims.
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This story will have zero impact on Trump. Opinions of him are thoroughly baked in - you either love him or (like me) loathe him - there is no middle ground. Not a single mind will be changed by the latest news of his misconduct.
Everybody knows, and has known for a long time, what this guy is. Roughly 40% of voters, a majority of the avowed religious and almost all Republicans approve of him regardless.
Bill Clinton was impeached for improper behaviour. But teflon Donald can do no wrong.
In the unlikely event that there is a God, she would certainly not bless America. All empires eventually self destruct and the American one is following the established pattern.
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@Phil Ford
I too loathe the man, that thing he said about shooting someone and nothing happening? Yeah I believe that, they'd vote for him again and the republicans rejoice.
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Someone asked why the people of this country are so quiet with respect to Trump. I've come up with a theory: this has never been about Trump. Trump is a convenient poster boy for the anger, crudeness, and toxic selfishness that passes for "culture" or "real America" in some parts of this country.
The more he denigrates his voters, his office, this land, the more they squeal with delight. Because he confirms what they believe to be true: that all is detestable, especially them, no matter how much you dress it up.
This is not, and never has been, about Trump (but don't tell him that). This is about sticking it to the rest of us by putting a monster in the highest office of the land. The more monstrous, the better.
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@George he's saying what many Americans want to but can't. But criticizing Trump is alot easier than looking at the soul of America.
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She’s not my type.
He’s not meeting a woman to date. He’s committing an act of sexual assault. An act of violence has nothing to do with “type,”
appearance or demeanor. It has everything to do with a man who is a sexual predator. Is this the 13th woman to come forward to allege sexual unwanted touching and worse? A woman not his type is a woman inaccessible when his lustful pathology surfaces.
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"She's not my type. It never happened." Imagine for a moment this was said in a courtroom by an accused with regard to a murder. Any way you want to turn that, it sounds like insanity.
There's only one reason it doesn't to far too many people is that we still don't think of sexual assault as a crime of violence. If sex is involved, it's a whole different story. All kinds of parameters that have no relevance to the act of assault come into play, and it will take a few more generations of "Me Too" movements before that changes.
Just imagine again the courtroom in a murder trial wherein the accused says, "Believe me, she would not have been my first choice. Check out her Facebook, you'll understand."
I that context it's insane. In the context of sexual assault, it's also insane.
Why are we still having the same discussion we've been having for nigh on thousands of years? Why are we still using our outdated Cro Magnon brains when what we've got could get us so much further along the path of living rightly on this earth?
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Reality Check is it me or im missing something here. Everytime an issue arrises with president . Another issues arrises like border with children being left in horrible conditions. Then there is the trade issue with mexico. Then there is trade issue with china. Then there is issue with iran. All of which ment to distract american people from real issues at hand like this article. Feel like im being smoked by man made issues
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A question to all you evangelical voters, Pence and all: Is your support for Trump not the most cynical hypocrisy?
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@msf
They don’t read any negative news about Trump. They avoid it — all “fake news.” They only watch Fox News. If questioned about his ugly behavior, they deny it, “he never lies.” Or minimize “he is not a pastor.” They want the White America of the 1950’s back and Trump has convinced them he can do it.
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That our president claims that he didn't rape a woman only because she wasn't his type (thus actually admitting that he WOULD rape a woman if she were) is in itself outrageous whether or not he did rape this woman. This should be front page news and shows yet again that he is not worthy of his office.
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She does not have to be "YOUR TYPE" to Rape her. If you are afraid of women, hate them or hate yourself; just rape them, that should "Teach Them" and (Wrong) make you fill better. OY!
And This is our President. Shame on us.
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“Too unattractive to rape” is not a convincing denial.
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Having done a very limited amount of modelling (negligee) some years ago I would think a 55 year old model to be a bit mature. I would wonder if she was employed by the manufacturers of the garments. Never, when I worked as a sales clerk in ladies wear were men permitted in the women's dressing area. So there are some unanswered questions, as I see it.
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@S Sm
Who's going to tell him no? The republicans haven't you expect a sales clerk to tell him?
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@S Sm
Good questions. Do you temper the reports of Trump often entering the dressing rooms of Miss America pageant? Did you listen or read reports of the videotape about his bragging about me can get away with “grabbing” women’s privates because he’s rich and famous? (The well publicized audiotape before the election — the one that was passed off as normal male “locker room talk” and then even later denied altogether by Trump?) Does any of this sound like a man who follows social norms about women’s dressing rooms?
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@S Sm. Trump asked her to model the lingerie. She was not a model but a writer for Elle Magazine and they ran into each other at Bergdof’s.
I am not New Yorker and so am not sure as to the exact address of Bergdof’s. It does seem though that so far while Trump has not shot any one on 5th Ave, he has raped someone pretty close to the street at least and gotten away with it.
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Not being a violent person I am nearly shocked by my reactions to Trump, and to the plight of children held in Texas.
I'm repelled by both the person and the conditions in which these children are held. But finding myself nearly completely impotent to directly change either, I welcome these emotions which propel me to act in non-violent ways.
Though I would love to have the strength and powers of Superman, I have instead phoned and written my members of Congress and will be contributing today to those groups actively working against the man and on behalf of these children.
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"She's not my type", or "He's not my type" (did Wilde actually use that as a defense in court?) is not actually an "insult", It simply is a statement of mater of personal taste and preference. That's why there is chocolate and vanilla.
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@Mark Shyres, are you kidding? It's his defense. From that I infer that had she been "his type," he would've done what she claims.
Seems like we will soon have yet another example around which Donald can amplify fantasies related to Times Square.
We've reached a point in irony where distasteful values and horrendous behavior are characteristic of both presidential behavior and subsequent virtual endorsement.
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It's difficult to believe the world's journalists cannot, will not, consider that this accusation is not just another ploy to promote the sales of a new book by the author. She is getting massive amounts of free and very effective, sales producing advertising. She tries to dismiss it by saying a man never has to address such questions. It's all misogyny to keep women in their place. Men do have to address such questions when the situation warrants it.
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It is scary to think that at least three potential felons are sitting at top positions in our present system of government, two in the Supreme Court and one in the WH. Are we, a country of 330 million, lacking in men/women of good standing which we then can elect for these important positions? Wake up everybody!
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come the 2020 elections it will be interesting to see how many women, granted mostly white women but some asian, hispanic and black women, will vote for Trump and the Republicans in Congress that support him.
As much as the focus is often on Trump, Mitch, the Freedom Caucus, and the Rank and File elected Republicans are the bedrock of his power and ability to behave criminally in office.
They as much as Trump need to go!
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I detest Trump but another story? Is it any coincidence that she’s trying to sell a book. I suggest she file a complaint with the NYPD or file a lawsuit. Unfortunately, Trump appears relatively immune to these kinds of claims. Instead of focusing on these kinds of stories, we should focus on the untold damage he’s doing to the world.
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@Brad
This--publicly questioning whether a woman is attractive enough to merit assault--is part of the untold damage Trump is doing to the world.
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Well past the statute of limitations for her to take legal action against Trump. Trump is free to sue her for libel. However he will not because the defense to libel is the truth.
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@Brad
We can do both - and we are.
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Trump's initial argument is that "she's not my type". Does that mean that if Ms. Carroll were a near twin of Melania, or Ivana, or Marla, (or Stormy, or Karen for that matter), that he would have done it?
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I agree with Donald when he spews that E. Jean Carroll is not his type. She certainly is not. She is a strong, smart, funny, very attractive and obviously not a liar.
Donald's type is his daughter Ivanka as he has often said.
Having two daughters myself, I find that strange and disturbing on so many levels. I guess for Donald and his adoring fans it's completely normal and probably desirable.
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Mr. Trump: I didn't do it. She's not my type. However, if she were my type, that'd be a different story.
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@J Swift
Notice how he cannot resist turning around a charge as serious as sexual assault to flattering himself about his preference for attractive women.
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It is strange that she kept this information secret until she was about to have her book published. It would have been far more useful if she had gone public before Trump was elected, maybe even as far back as the Republican primaries. Her claim wouldn’t be any more or less provable then. But her overdue admission of a brief sexual encounter with Trump never needed to happen. Unfortunately, Congressman Schiff has not yet released the secret information that he has said many times, proves Trump was colluding with the Russians. If he had, maybe her disclosure would have been unnecessary.
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I believe her, as most everyone does because Trump behaves like an unabashedly violent predator of a man. We have seen it at many times. That said, why would any intellegent woman accompany a man with whom she was not on intimate terms into a dressing room at Bergdorfs, or anywhere else? Doesn’t anyone else find that a strange thing to do? I truly wish she had come out earlier when so many other brave women came out. Why now? What is the point unless she is willing to go after him through the courts?
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If you were in a department store and a stranger asked you to try on some underwear and wait in the dressing room for an examination, would you do that?
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He wasn't her type, either. Did that matter to him?
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I love how this allegation was made public just prior to the release of her book “why do we need men”
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The inevitable Trump response to any type of allegation or criticism is first denial and then to place blame on someone else. "Not my type" is so lame as to be laughable, except that this is the president of the United States. I guess children ripped from their parents and left in squalor in Texas detention centers are not his type either. Oh, but that was because of President Obama.
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Hang in, E Jean. You are brave, strong, and on the side of good.
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It reveals quite a bit about Trump’s mentality when his defense against a sexual assault charge is that “she is not my type! The implication seems to be that if she was his type, he would not have had a problem with sexually assault!
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Our justice system is run by criminals (it's really nothing new). Americans will do nothing because "it's the economy stupid". But really, change will only happen now when the wealthy and corporations want it and since Americans are more interested in their own economic situation than anything else, they cannot find it in themselves to vote in a manner that would put moral people into office. So nothing will change. Strikes and boycotts cannot be carried out by weak and selfish people.
There is an awful lot whining going on but no substantive action. The serfs dare not make the masters angry.
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Republicans have waged war against women's autonomous right to their bodies as proven by a President and 2 Supreme Court Justices accused of sexual assault/misconduct. Followed by republican controlled states attempting to overturn Roe v. Wade with bogus heartbeat laws...
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The variety of his victims shows he really doesn’t have a type.
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So she said yes to getting into the private changing room to get naked and put on lingerie but rejected the advance?
Hopefully this will at least provoke women to come out early and accuse men of their misdeeds.
But in the real world why not think twice about entering a private room with a man that already made a sexual advance if not willing to have sex.
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Getting into a dressing room does not equate with getting naked. At no point in the various articles about this case is there a single mention of his accuser ever planning to remove her clothes- it was about the idea of him putting the lingerie over his clothes. The eagerness to victim blame is overwhelming.
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22 women? As much as we despised George Bush did anyone ever accuse him of sexual assault or even consider him capable of such a heinous act? Or for that matter, has any other president of the US of any stripe ever been accused of such a thing?
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I’m sorry but this accusation has all kinds of holes in it. I’m no Trump fan but here is this lady who just happened to release a new book and could sure use the publicity from an outrageous accusation that of course can not be proven one way or the other. I can’t always explain the psychology behind it, but there’s no question that there are lots of people out there who are starved for attention and what better way to get it than to make some outrageous accusation that can’t be proven? These 20 year old accusations are seriously flawed and shame on the media for spreading such unsubstantiated nonsense.
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Where is the insult in saying a person is not his type? I take that to mean he did not find her sexually attractive. Is that an insult? Perhaps we are unthinkingly accepting the logic of the writers of this story, who are men and apply their own logic to a situation by assuming that if a woman does not evoke sexual urges in a man then it must be an insult.
@Aristotle Gluteus Maximus You miss the point. The point is that Trump's message assumes that if she was his type, rape would not be a problem. I'm sure Ms. Carroll is not insulted.
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@Aristotle Gluteus Maximus
If your wife, sister or daughter accused a very wealthy and powerful individual of sexual assault while doing her job, and the accused man says, “oh that couldn’t have happened because she’s not my type —go look at her Facebook and see what I mean”— and laughs — how would you feel about his comment? Would you feel your loved one was being contemptuously dismissed? Or would you feel his comment was just being honest and nothing to take offense at?
She has a wonderful opportunity now. One that would not be dismissed as “just another false accusation”.
PRODUCE THE DRESS. Have it tested. Let’s get rid of this lying sleaze.
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America has lost its way.
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Trump allegedly molested a woman on an airplane, and she came forward. She's about the same age as Trump, and he said something like "Just look at her, who would want to molest her" or something like that.
His problem? She's aged, just like he has, and he doesn't want anyone to think he would assault a woman who looks like she does, that is, looking her age.
Trump only attacks young women.
Same deal with the E. Jean Carroll. She's not 25 anymore, so he can't have attacked her.
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The very people who still condemn Bill Clinton for his sexual sins, deny trump ever committed any wrongdoing and rationalize obvious proof of what he himself admitted to in the Access Hollywood Tape.
trump supporters fall into two camps: 1. racists and misogynists and 2. those who worship money. I know at least half a dozen trump followers who overlap into both categories.
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Trump has proven to be an assaulter of anyone at any time. That his standard defense is that the woman in each case wasn’t his type is just one more in the endless string of lies out of this compulsive pathological liar and malignant narcissist. Sadly, he is truly representative of his fellow Republicans who will cheer him on rather than condemn his immoral behavior.
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Trump probably assaulted many more women than the 22 who have come forward. He had at least two affairs while his most recent wife was pregnant or caring for a newborn. He generally despises and mocks women and men for that matter, especially ones who he feels are weaker than him. But gosh, those Supreme Court Justices! Now I can just dump my toxic waste in the river! And, I have my privilege back! Four more years!
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Goes to show another danger when the electoral college overrules the vote of the people,...Again!
Sure , we know that America actually voted for Mrs Clinton by 3,000,000 more ballots, but you'll take this rapist that republicans will install in her place ! Your vote? Too bad,
You'll take him, just like all the other gerrymandered cronies that were rejected at the polls but were installed by republicans anyway.
We don't have democracy in the USA anymore or else we would still have a Government Of The People.
Kavanaugh, the alleged attempted rapist fits right in with Putin's Trump and his anti American regime of criminals.
From Steppenwolf's song, "The Monster"
"America, where are you now, don't you care about your sons and daughters?"
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Is Donald Trump anyone’s type? He’s repulsive, and always has been.
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Rapists never look for "their type." They look for an unsuspecting, vulnerable woman, regardless of looks, age, or anything else. It's opportunity. tRump is an opportunist. And, a rapist.
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The media is certainly cherry-picking their information. I haven’t heard a word about modeling lingerie for him (“for his wife”) on cable news (MSNBC is my go-to). I’ve heard outrage and emotion, but not that side of the story. I’d be embarrassed to admit I was that stupid. No, she wasn’t “asking for it.” Please don’t drag out that knee-jerk trope. But seriously, take some reaponsibility.
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It is typical of Trump to insult women by saying "She's not my type." Type doesn't enter into rape. It's about power. And we all know how much Trump likes power.
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Coming from Donald Trump, "She's not my type," is not an insult but a compliment. Except he is such a liar that who knows. Suppose he said, "No I did not do that. Rape is criminal and wrong." Who can believe anything he says?
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A sexual predator using "She's not my type" as a defense for rape is almost as smarmy as a rapist who demands parental rights for the pregnancy that results from his vicious crime.
It seems that Trump is acknowledging an inclination to rape women that are more his "type."
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Always ironic that this pathological liar who is, unfortunately, in the White House for the time being, has the nerve to judge veracity in others. We shame ourselves in tolerating this man in any way shape or form.
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So women who are his "type" are not safe?
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So if someone suspected of being a serial killer simply said, "Nah, he's not my type" would the writers of Criminal Minds look for another Unsub?
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What he said is true. His type would have let him walk right up and grab her....
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It is documented in court papers that Donald Trump raped his first wife and pulled her hair out in a rage. Ivana Trump walked back her accusations later, owing in no small part to negotiations with her divorce lawyers and his, due to anticipated sums of alimony and child support and who knows what other threats.
That this foul ball continues to inhabit the White House without any repercussions for any of his actions is mind-blowing. His impulsive cruelty and faltering mind is not just on display within the confines of how he treats women, but how he treats his constituents, this nation's allies, and our adversaries.
He is what he is. A cruel and inhuman criminal and con artist.
Vote.
Donald Trump is NOT My Type. Anybody but Trump in 2020.
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Trump, in a certain and yet strong sense, is raping all of us and the country. Rape takes many forms.
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I don't, and never will, know what happened over twenty years ago to a woman in a Bergdorf fitting room. I have watched Donald Trump lie, and make up untruths, and deny what he has done or said so many times during the past 3 years that there is no way I could believe that anything Trump says today could be the Truth. The man is a LIAR, plain and simple. So whatever horrible thing he is now being accused of I believe. Simply because Trump has proven himself to be an unapologetic liar. I just can't believe so many Americans still think it is O.K. for their President to be a pathologic liar.
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We used to think voters would be disapproving. Just the opposite: this is red meat for Trumps base, poorly educated, resentful and disempowered white men.
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The DNA test on the dress needs to occur. If Trump's DNA is on there, it proves he accosted her. Even if the statute of limitations has expired, it proves that Trump is a liar yet again. As it stands his credibility is zero.
The media beats on Biden for putting his hands on a woman's shoulders. Trump has 16 accusers as it stands, and nothing happens. The system is failing !!!
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@Tim I wouldn't hold my breath on any DNA test... This would have been a concern because of the relatively current "blue dress" in the Clinton situation. If she had anything she would likely have made sure to keep it intact and publicize its existence. There's nothing.
"She's not my type." President Trump
An insult? Au contraire.
I believe E. Jean Carroll should take it as a compliment.
Although it didn't seem to stop his ugly, illegal behavior toward her.
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No one was ever his type unless they suffer from maschosim. The only women he ever had were either bought or assaulted
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"She's not my type." As if that is a precondition to rape. What a horrible man Trump is. And so are the people in his rally who laughed when he said that. Hillary was right, they are deplorables. What has happened to us that we've become so "comfortably numb" with each new revelation and we've allowed this man to continue occupy and poison the presidency? Republicans in Congress should hang their heads in shame.
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Every time I think Trump can go no lower, he proves me wrong. I'm tired of being so embarrassed for our country that this racist, misogynistic, lying, bloviating, incompetent, failed businessman is our President.
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And you're not her type, Donald.
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So I guess if she were his “type,” he then would have assaulted her?
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America, NYTimes, everyone: Do not let this fade away.
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Who needs rape kits when we can just ask a suspect to rate the victim’s attractiveness on a scale of 1 to 10?
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It's the perfect setup for a lie detector episode in prime time. Think of the ratings! Are all these women lying? Is the president a rapist? Who will be found wanting on the next installment of "J'accuse!"
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So...he only assaults women he’s attracted to? I wonder what godly Mike Pence and his Christian army think about this!
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Our president is a disgusting sexual predator. He has been practicing his denials for years and they all sound the same..."she was not my type"....I think the only type he needs is a woman. Any woman will do to satisfy his primal urges and his need to prove his manliness. Only a weak man needs to prove himself by assaulting women and I believe our leader fits that definition perfectly.
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@joyce No wonder Trump has never had any pets.
Trump makes me sick. Sick of such a person to be considered by his loyal following to be above all the accusations. Sick the GOP keep their mouths shut so it does not impact their agenda of making women second class citizens. Sick of what MAGA - Makes America Grotesquely Absurd in the eyes of the world.
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"She's not my type" is hardly a proclamation of innocence. By saying this, Trump is telling us that he does have a type he likes to sexually assault.
Why do people continue to make excuses for this rapist?
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So , Donald, what IS your type to rape? You only rape women you rate as 10? Seems to me that all your life, your wives, mistresses, & other women around you are the sort of arm candy a man with deep insecurity about his own virility & sexuality who is trying to convince the world & himself he is a man's man. Sad...
Is your sexual "performance" the REAL reason you get your wives & mistresses to sign non-disclosure forms?
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I'm sure you're "not her type" either, Mr. President. Nor does "type" have anything to do with rape. Your middle school bully tactics are wearing thin as the women you've aggrieved and assaulted continue to come forward. Who can blame them for not wanting to be slimed by you--no doubt the first time was bad enough. #Vote
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Not OK. You're not OK. Frankly, you're sick.
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His excuse that "she's not my type" is not only funny, it's damning. That says he would assault a woman if she was "his type". Confession time, anyone?
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Sorry Trump. There is absolutely no reason to believe you. Your pattern of constant lies and denials are plain to see.
Evangelicals? What price is too high to pay? Apparently none.
Don't act surprised when people say you have no credibility.
Which you do not.
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she seems like a sweet, sincere lady. and i have no love for the current POTUS.
but: too little, too late. #MeToo is not able to enfranchise all female grief back to anne boleyn.
there's a bridge, and the water goes underneath it. move on.
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the hypocrisy of the Republicans ready to attack Clinton and the religious reborn etc is evident.
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I believe her and it took courage for her to come out and reveal this tragic event. trump has had enough crimes against him and been recorded on tape to show he is a sick man and doesn't belong in office.
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Fun fact #1: New York state doesn't have a statute of limitations on rape.
Fun fact #2: Ms Carroll still has the jacket she was wearing at the time of the assault. She reportedly hasn't worn it since but instead kept it in her closet in a plastic garment bag. Donald's DNA is quite possibly still there, either in hair or saliva or skin he left behind (or perhaps other material).
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It’s also quite possible Bergdorf Goodman had security cameras with recording equipment at the time. Unfortunately, they probably deleted or reused the tapes over time, but who knows?
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She discussed with the store; no tapes exist. However you are correct on the statute of limitations. If it hasn’t been drycleaned, she could have the dress tested and he could face prosecution out of office.
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If the day of reckoning could come eventually even for America's favorite dad (aka Cosby), then this guy's day will also come. Just a matter of time...It is the same pattern...And the growing preponderance of evidence if anything is even so much stronger...Ashamed to think he is the president of this great country...And not only that, he wants to run again next year! Sounds like a joke, but he may well win again!!
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Donald Trump, the white Bill Cosby but still skating by on his privilege.
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If I did what Trump has done to women (verified and well documented) I would be watching the upcoming July 4th festivities on television from my cell instead of a special perch at the White House. The man is a moral miscreant, not worth commenting on his presidential behavior or accomplishments.
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As male teenagers we would never have associated with anyone who could make such a statement but a fairly large population of this country accepts this sick individual as our president. How far we have fallen.
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Here we are again, having to decide if our president is lying. Trump’s every behavior, his history, and his defense suggest he is lying in this case.
I don’t know a bigger liar than our president, do you ?
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Only a really, really sick country would tolerate such a man in any office, let alone its highest one.
The thing is, he will eventually leave office. Trump is just one man. The scary part is that when he leaves office, his millions of cheerleaders will remain.
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Let’s see how his so-called “base” views this. Approvingly?
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Full Disclosure: I did not read this article. I wanted to express my utter dismay that it took 4 days for the NYT to put this credible accusation on its homepage. I searched in vain for it on Friday after I saw an article in the WaPo. Nothing. It fell off the WaPo homepage over the weekend as the news moved to Trump's lie fest, I mean Chuck Todd interview, and his fake heroic pull back from attacking Iran.
Sunday shows? Barely a mention.
The media are always asking if "we" are numb. No we are not, but it seems like the media are. But, thank God we heard all about Biden's "disqualifying" shoulder rubbing for days.
But, that's the difference I guess. Biden apologized and actually got criticized for his slightly tone deaf apology while Trump just denies and says Ms Carroll isn't hot enough to rape. This is what he's said in the past with rally goers screaming with delight.
But - hey - why don't we stick another microphone in his face anywhere and anytime and sit there like bumps on a log with no follow-up questions or allow him to interrupt so he can spread the lie again while you move on to the next question and repeat the cycle.
This man is not only never held accountable, he's now the most powerful man on the planet. I am scared to death.
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There you have it. Trump only assaults women who are his type.
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And I'm sure Trump is not her type.
It's doubtful Trump could score with less than a billion in the bank. This rape offers proof that his wealth is greatly exaggerated.
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Maybe it's true: After all, Jean Carroll isn't: (1) a college dropout. (2) an ex-model, or (3) child of a Communist bureaucrat. Nor (4) does she wear jackets advertising that she "really doesn't care." So indeed, she probably isn't Trump's "type."
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Yes, apparently she did agree to model some lingerie. That's irrelevant. The only pertinent question is, did she agree to have sexual contact with Trump? I don't care if she agreed to give him a lap dance. She didn't agree to be slammed up against a wall, have her tights pulled down, or any other violence. That's all that matters. Period.
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@ARNP In an interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN, she said she voluntarily went in a dressing room with him.
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@Phil
Yes. And?
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@Phil
If you voluntarily go out in public carrying a wallet, are you asking to be robbed?
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Sexual assault is about male dominance and anger. It has nothing to do with the victims. In the Donald's case, considering the number of accusations, his victim list includes "anything in a skirt".
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This will blow over as such and similar accusations and disclosures with reflexive and problematic denials have.
To the extent that it is true - totally, imo - it appears that the assaultee has fully recovered and, to repeat the formula, gone on with her life quite well indeed.
Unfortunately, the exception among the women who constitute this group (apparently no male has made a comparable claim but "ya dunno what's comin' tomorrow").
So what's the point? The continued normalization, not of the charge, but the response by the accused: not my type. What? Put aside his public personhood and compare e.g. Ailes, Cosby, Moonves, Weinstein et al.
When the ostensible "leader of the free world" is the oh so plausibly again accused AND his "base" numbering tens of millions of Americans is unaffected for purposes of his public role, one vote here for a periodic seeking out of potential accusers and furnishing them with the support they need to go public.
Don't let decent folks react with "Sad but what can ya do?" Excoriation to the max.
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It exasperates me to see other women blame the victim on this thread, even if it's subtle. If Ms. Carroll had been standing naked in the dressing room it would not have mattered. No means no. Let's stop saying young women should learn this, do that, don't do that, wear this, don't wear that. Let's teach young men that the first time a woman or a man says 'no' they must stop.
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Mr. Trump was elected because of your flawed electoral system. Get rid of the "electoral college" and let the candidate with the most votes win.
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This latest allegation won't influence Trump supporter's opinion in the least, by his past behavior and statements he has already inoculated himself from any curiosity about the details from them, and in their mind all allegations are pre-judged as witch hunts and unfair persecution. They will continue to show up for appointment viewing to listen to Trump's Goebbels (Sean Hannity) explain away all of his morally bankrupt actions and they will chant in agreement when Trump can't come up with anything truthful at a rally and resorts to his go to "lock her up slogan". Much like Reverend Moon disciples decades ago, supporters ignore clear evidence of criminal activity and continued to do so long after the evidence was in, and in Moon's case after he was already inhabiting a prison cell. We need a national de-programmer who can reconnect his supporters with the tether of reality so that when they find out that he has done something criminal akin to his I could shoot someone on fifth avenue and not lose voters boast, his self and Hannity inoculations don't provide any immunity.
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The seeds for his gross disrespect were planted in childhood. He learned about his values,morals from his father. So to truly understand his mindset. You have to go back to the relationship between his mother and father.We are all products of our environment. Social,economic,behavioral. All create the person we are to come.Not to excuse any of his behavior towards women.Or his attitudes. But,it provides an insight to his mindset and why he acts and behaves the way he does. One of the biggest factors is that he comes from wealth and privilege. So, he automatically thinks he his superior to others especially women. This attitude towards women has taken years and years to take shape. What was his relationship with his mother? All of these are crucial in the formation of the individual today.
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well, one thing is certain, Trump is NOT Ms. Carroll's type. She apparently has good taste as well as good sense.
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The President says, “She’s not my type.” But he also says he didn’t know her. If he didn’t know her, then how does he know what “type” she was, years ago when the incident allegedly took place? There is a contradiction in his denial.
(Perhaps he is basing his comment on the photo of them together? Yet in the photograph, Ms. Carroll looks just like his wife, Ivana Trump, who is also in the photo).
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The audio recording in the bus told us all that he acts this way. No surprise then that another woman is describing the same behavior he bragged about.
As disgraceful as his treatment of women is, I just wish it were his one and only failing as a President. Fawning admiration of this man baffles me.
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Trumps comment about checking her out on her Facebook page not only invites crazies to comment on her page but is extremely disrespectful to women. Women who vote for this man after actually seeing him on tape in 2016 and knowing he lied about and paid off Stormy Daniels makes one feel like this
country is a surreal twilight zone where the religious right indiscriminately chooses what they will ignore.
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@Zoned
Some people ignored B Clinton's shortcomings so don't play the religious card. Most progressive register as high on the self-righteous meter as Evangelicals. Most people know a political game when they see one. Don't be angry if they don't choose to partake.
It's publicity for her book.
The only thing Trump treats with "great respect" are the desperate and bottomless needs of his fragile ego.
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I’ve long understood sexual assault to be a crime of violence, and not a misguided compliment.
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@Karen Lee Sexual assault and rape are all about power and nothing to do with sex.
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@Karen Lee perfectly stated.
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"She's not my type." Right, she said NO.
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It’s time to face it. Donald Trump’s undeniable abuse of women is something Republicans and conservatives. support. If they had the slightest problem with it, they’d have done something by now about it.
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@Kip
Agreed.
They view it as just another episode of "Trump being Trump ob la-dee, ob la-dah".
It's amazing how without principle and morals the GOP has become.
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@Kip Yes, there really is a "war on women" (and immigrants, lgbt, people of color) and the GOP is leading it.
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@Kip Seems abuse of women by thugs like the donald is one of the core beliefs of the evangelicals.
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A great campaign slogan, “He is not our type”.
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Democrats have no backbone. As do Republicans. Trump, being the snake that he is, has paralyzed them both with his venom. Not sure if Americans can find an antidote and soon.
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Has Trump looked in a mirror at any time in the past 50 years?
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And here's the thing:
Had Trump not been known, and documented, as a business fraud; had he not played "milion-dollar poker" in court against the contractors he cheated; had he not been as a serial philanderer (his three wives were all known as "the other woman"); had he not been caught in the infamouse "Access Hollywood" tape describing his sexual predations with glee; had he not spent his life lying about nearly everything he said and did; had he not called for the execution of five innocent young men in NYC; had he not made the decision to accept Russian — yes, RUSSIAN — help in the 2016 election; had he not said he would take more foreign assistance (using Norway as a flimsy example ;-) for 2020; and, of course, had he not turned family-separation and child detention systems into gulags (with Stephen Miller's white nationalist fingerprints all over those policies), who wouldn't take Trump's word for it?
Yeah, that's what I thought, too.
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Actually, Trump has it backwards. He wasn’t her type.
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"She’s not my type."
Begs to have the answer so we can be on alert: What is your type, Donald, what is your type? What type do you like to rape?
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Does he have any self-respect at all ? Such absence is deeply dangerous in a president. Republicans should urge impeachment proceedings.
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@Frank - I'm pretty sure McConnell giggled juicily while reading this article...
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It’s unlikely that Trump will ever be held accountable for his predation. Not even when he’s a wizened, old incontinent hanger-onner bedridden old old man. Same goes for his enabling GOP enablers.
What we can do is raise our daughters with the hard facts: that there’s a high probability that at some point they will be molested, assaulted and/or raped. Because that’s the society we live in, and it will never never change.
So the question becomes - how to prepare them and give them tools for when they are confronted with any/every level of physical violation. Included in the tool box: strong female allies/friends/neighbors who will advocate for them through every part of the ordeal.
My own experience of being physically assaulted and violated continues to teach me that the emotional work to advocate for oneself, and to work towards recovery (*you never completely “recover” from this) — is always always always on the survivor. And that will never ever change. It’s on us to survive and not let the Event cripple us emotionally and spiritually for life.
Teach our daughters well. We only have control on how we, ourselves, navigate through this kind of trauma.
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Why not? Take to street. Throw stones.
Trump says “she is not my type”. What does this imply? If she were his type, he would assault her?
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"I would NEVER rape a woman" versus "I would never rape THAT woman." Is he proud of this 'defense'?
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Did he mean, I would have raped her in the store dressing room, but she was just not up to my standards? Who talks like this? How has this become normalized by big media? This paper has to report this story every day until the women who bravely came forward with their stories of abuse find justice. Ms. Carroll and others, has received death threats from rabid supporters Trump. It took great courage to talk publicly about these assaults. This paper and others have to fully support the truth.
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Why was she trying on lingerie for him in a private dressing room? What was her motive in doing that?
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Oh right. She was clearly asking for it.
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@MTD
Thanks goodness, for a minute there I thought I was going to get through these comments without finding any "She was clearly asking for it" nonsense. Thank you for not disappointing.
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@MTD...So what's your point. Sexual assault is ok because she was asking for it?
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"she's not my type."
translation: i don't rape women who aren't my type, only those who are.
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Republicans used to get bent out of shape because Michelle Obama wore sleeveless dresses and President Obama didn't immediately wear a flag pin after taking office. No amount of criminal activity from Trump however gets a rise out of them. They will continue to aid and abet his criminality as long as it suits their agenda but at the cost of our democracy and the country's soul.
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The fact that Republican men and--even worse--women are silent and even defending this slimy excuse for a man are reason enough to vote against all GOPers on any ballot from dog catcher to President. Please Americans get a clue!
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So maybe he could tell us exactly what his “type” of rape victim is, so that those who meet his “standards” could have some warning.
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Charge him with what it is: rape. So what if the prosecution fails.
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@Tibby Elgato - no prosecutor is going to take a case they know they can't prove.
Individual-1 can demur and deflect all he likes.
But does anyone really doubt, given the evidence, that he is the exact sort of self-centered cad (I'd like to use a stronger word, but the NYT won't print it) who would do precisely this sort of thing on a routine basis?
And yet, tens of millions of self-professed "good Christians" love the guy.
"Whatsoever you do to the least of these, my brothers, that you do unto me."
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It's about time the NYTImes excavated this story from the Book Section!
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So, Trump is admitting that yes, he would rape a woman if she were his type. This is his morality and our country accepts this?!!!!
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According to the Orlando Sentinel's recent editorial (http://bit.ly/2J9YA2n) as to why it would not endorse Trump for a second term was his "successful assault on truth as the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency."
How many times do we as Americans ignore our core values of truth & decency for this embarrassment of a "leader."
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At the very beginning, it is best for me to clarify it, because any misunderstanding may occur. I’m no fan of Mr. Trump. In fact, I join the side of people who judge he has a strong prejudice against appearances. Besides, contextually, what he said of the accuser is not appropriate. He is the President first of all. Despite all, I would say the same thing if I was rumored, or gossiped, or slandered as if I had an affaire with a stranger or someone whom I think of oh, no, this guy and me? please. Because “not my type” is a very straightforward and economical expression to assert I be no person whom you want to frame as such. It is a quick hit back. In these days’ environment, however, everything (note: I’m not suicidal. ref: D Brooks’ column) tends to be controlled under the norm of politically correct or not. Most importantly, also here about Mr. Trump, the context and status issues remain in high light.
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@Juliette Masch (former Igorantia A.) How you or I might react to slander offers no meaningful insight. Your fifth sentence illustrates why, "He is the President first of all." Next omission: Since 2016, there are 15 public accusations of sexual misconduct against Trump, in addition to 4 court cases--and myriad pageant complaints about his inappropriate dressing room visits. His response was neither straightforward nor economical;he would be well advised to come up with a more Presidential response to an allegation of rape other than, "She's not my type." But no one can advise this man. So each day we mistakenly think, "That's it! Now we've heard it all," only to awaken the next day to witness another example of his brutish behavior as he diminishes the office of the President.
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I wish anyone who has been violated by Trump would please speak out--now. He will try to pick off and rebuff any isolated person but the cumulative effect of many persons coming out now would be important. Yes, there were charges made in 2016, but Trump says these were old news, fakes, and rendered null and void by the elections.
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The Evangelicals will not leave him. He's their type. Deplorable what this country has become under this President.
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@Sharon Conway....Evangelicals have been nothing but frauds from the very beginning.
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Huh. So I guess the burden of proof now calls for establishing that 'she fits within his type' than whether there is any proof in the allegation.
We are now at post-outrage. Every evidence of misogyny, truculence, bloviating, incoherence, and complete and total intent on destroying the republic produces - at best - a yawn.
This dude is now ready to engage in nuclear warfare with anyone. I guess he can always claim, "I might have done, but Iran is not my type."
I wonder when our total insanity began, but it seems irreversible now.
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@Kalidan - Trump has been so massively beyond the pale every day of his campaign, transition, & presidency that, by the time people get outraged about what he said & did today, it's tomorrow & new issues arise. His technique is to so totally overwhelm people with his blatantly unconscionable behavior that we all develop "scandal weariness" & say, "Oh, Well. That's just the way Trump behaves every day with a "y" in it.
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@Kalidan
... Worked out pretty well for Brett Kavanaugh.
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@Kalidan - post-outrage - yes that is where we are, I was trying to think of a succinct way to describe it and you hit it perfectly. People are numb to this due to the constancy of the whole thing. We are beyond the point of trying to reasonably convince others of what is right or even a middle ground. Need to vote in 2020.
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Megyn Kelly, previously very popular Fox news hostess, asked Trump an appropriate question. He responded by mocking her for menstruating. I had previously not paid much attention to Trump, but that exchange informed me that Trump has a personality disorder, and he is misogynist. I thought my Facebook friends would recognize this and reject him as a viable candidate.
Instead, Facebook friends I had previously thought of as rational and mature flocked to Trump as flies swarm around waste. Their enthusiasm level rose; if they were mercury, they would have broken the thermometer. And these were Fox fans disposed to like Megyn Kelly.
Misogyny. Men, women, love publicly to tear women apart. The left did it to Governor Palin. The right does it to anyone Trump targets. Our ancestors did it to witches.
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@Danusha Goska I thought Governor Palin invited it, with inane comments about things like seeing Russia from her porch. That isn't a remark that speaks well for a vice presidential candidate. A better example would be Hillary Clinton, a remarkably qualified candidate, who could've been fairly assessed for her strengths and weaknesses as a serious person, rather than being targeted with the rabble-rousing "Lock her up."
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@Danusha Goska
Thank you for this message. I had the same experience. I was left feeling that I had never really known many of the people I interact with regularly and deeply saddened.
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@Danusha Goska Thank you. I was similarly devastated by Trump supporting Facebook friends. They must have hated me all along. Did they not believe me when I told them I had been raped?
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For Trump and his ilk, it is the accusation of rape that is a crime. Rape itself, unless committed by a political adversary, is an entitlement.
It is unfortunate for planet earth and all its inhabitants that such an orientation does not itself render one unfit for office and, for that matter, for roaming free and unencumbered amongst society.
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It wasn’t all that many years ago when then President Clinton was accused of a consensual sex act. Many people in this Country, including Democrats, were stunned, then, angry.
Now, we have a President who, yesterday, essentially said “no big deal” about the brutal murder of a Saudi dissident. Then, today, he says , in essence, “ I didn’t rape her because she’s not my type”.
What has happened since President Clinton left office? Have the deplorables multiplied exponentially? Forget politics for the moment, and think about how fast many of our fellow citizens (voters) have kicked basic morality to the curb.
As a nation of civilized people , we are deteriorating at an increasing rate.
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@Patrick alexander I believe social media has made our awareness of the deplorable expand exponentially. There is no longer a filter (assignment editor TV, editorial board print) for the bulk of a social media users information sources. And in a quest for ratings, the TV and print outlets are scrambling to report the most outrageous actions and statements of those social media sources. We can now all communicate, even in tongues we don't speak, all the time. No thought too vapid. Tower of Babel redux?
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‘Totally lying’, this from not my emperor, who has lied more than 10,000 times since he has been, never my president!
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She agreed to model lingerie? Now this is a serious person. If she wasn't just releasing a book I would have my doubts, but seeing as how she is, I have no doubt at all as to the veracity of this story. Some might wonder if this report seems to be somewhat late in the Me Too cycle of trendy topics, but given the book release I'd think it's timing is perfect.
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Donald and I finally have something in common. When I voted in 2016 for President, I looked at my ballot and thought "he's not my type."
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If the multiple women who dislike Trump, threw him against the wall and assaulted him, they would get the charges thrown out based on the “he’s not my type” defense. Is there a list of women who have assaulted Trump? None - not their “type”.
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President Trump is a pathological liar. Why try to parse how lame this particular lie is?
Worse than his constant lying is how many of our fellow citizens are willing to support this behavior. I see it as more evidence that the abuse of women in America has been normalized by this President and his supporters.
How much degradation of basic decency will we endure?
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The Trump administration is basically being accused of child cruelty because of the actions at the border and then the President of the United States is, once again, charged with sexual assault. All on the same day. Meanwhile, our partisan Congress sits on its hands and does nothing. Cue the sunset.
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These accusations had some credibility in 2016. At this point, I'm afraid they will just seem like more anti-Trump propaganda. I don't see it having much effect.
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All these people saying, “Go after Trump for rape,” need to be aware that Trump is outside the statute of limitations for rape in New York State. Of course, the New York State legislature could repeal their statute of limitations for rape. It’s the most surefire way to put Trump in prison for life.
Conveniently, the New York State Legislature has a lot of female politicians in office at the moment. How about it, ladies?
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@Lisa Mims Unfortunately, Lisa, ex post facto laws would not apply to trump. His numerous crimes would not be chargeable under any new law. Therefore, Congress is our only hope. Fat chance with that.
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@David Kannas Repeal isn't new law. Changing the statute of limitations, or at least how it applied, is how they got Bill Cosby on decades-old sexual assault.
It's not ex post facto. It's just a repeal.
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Or, it could be that Trump is telling the truth.
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@Wine Country Dude — too much wine, “Dude”?
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@Wine Country Dude. There's a first to.e for everything I suppose.
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Really? The ONLY time in his life he told the truth? Get real, Dude.
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But praise Jesus that we didn’t elect a woman who used a private email server and gave a few lunchtime speeches to the executives at Goldman-Sachs.
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His type? She’s breathing, pretty and he’s a predator...all women are his type. Such a sleaze!
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There’s so little to gain from coming forward with an allegation of sexual assault. You just get hurled with abuse left and right. “There were no witnesses.” “That happened YEARS ago!” “Why come forward now?” “Liar!” “Why put yourself in that situation?”
I was raped when I was young. I know too many other women who were also assaulted. Many of us don’t speak out for years out of fear. Sometimes that fear is violence. Sometimes that fear is ridicule. Sometimes it’s out of confusion and feelings of shame and disgust. Or all of the above. Maybe the person who did this to you is on top of everything very wealthy and powerful.
I’ve known a lot of rich boys and girls, who regard ethics and morals as relative to what they can get away with. I see this in our president.
There’s no place for a probably sexual predator in the Oval Office.
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Is it not a valid measure of a democracy whether it’s possible to remove a dangerously incompetent president?
How much more does Trump have to mishandle before we take action?
It is irresponsible for we American citizens and stand by helplessly while Trump runs the country into the ground.
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Seriously? This woman didn't speak up prior to the last election, when she would have been one voice in chorus of accusers, but rather chose to stay silent until she had a book being published and then hurl her accusations in the same week the president announced his reelection bid?
This really, *really* doesn't pass the smell test.
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@Elfego Yeah, it does.
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You obviously haven’t read her account, and her book specifically is about the abuse inflicted on her by a number of men. Donald Trump is just one in that group. It makes perfect sense it would come out now as her book is being published.
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@Bridey
Such depth. Such wisdom. How can I *possibly* argue with that?
In the mind of someone who hates Donald Trump, anything negative about him is believable, because it confirms a preexisting bias.
Imagine it was your son facing the same charges with the same evidence (or lack thereof), would you feel the same way?
Take Trump out of the equation -- That's the test. Unless, of course, your only goal is to reinforce your hatred of Donald Trump, in which case...
Enjoy yourself. There are plenty of things to dislike about Trump; we don't need to make things up or create unnecessary distractions for that. He's a pretty reprehensible human being. We know that. We don't need unprovable, politically motivated accusations intended to sell a book. They serve no purpose.
Unless you're the person trying to sell the book, of course.
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I hope the only reason the Times prints such a ridiculous allegation with no facts whatsoever is that Trump is the president.
Her story is ridiculous. Why didn't she scream? And since when did telling two friends become evidence?
What's her motive for lying now? Well, not only does she have a book to sell -- look at the title of that book.
What jury would convict any man under those circumstances?
This would be libel if he weren't the president. I'm not a Trump supporter, but this story is ridiculous.
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You aren’t a woman.
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@Wolf To get it this drastically wrong you clearly you haven't been paying attention to anything women and men have been saying about assault, rape and predatory behavior for... well, forever. I wouldn't want to be a woman is your life. Do they know that if they are attacked or raped and don't behave the way you think they should you will dismiss them out of hand? Moreover as Ms. Carroll said, no one asks why a man is writing his Trump book "now." A million books have come out in the past 2 years about Trump and his racism, pathetic lying schemes and "deals", etc. Why now? I like the title of her book. It's a good question, especially when it comes to antiquated male ideas about women and rape like your's. if that jury has women on it (women can serve on juries now, Wolfie) it just might convict.
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@Wolf I disagree entirely. I think much of her behavior is fairly typical of rape victims. I think that she was kidding around with him at the store, and the situation turned violent VERY suddenly. I think she was stunned and embarrassed that she had gotten herself into that position at all. She blamed herself for that (as many victims do) but did tell her two friends. Because it was so long ago, the friends' recall is significant.
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How many more are gagged under non disclosure agreements? During the election there was a salacious allegation concerning a party, a 13 year old and a witness that apparently was headed to court. It was even noted in an article in the Atlantic. However, that case just disappeared. How many have been paid and threatened for their silence?
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@Deborah - and I bet all those laborers who lost out when Trump's AC casinos went south, I bet they had to sign NDA's before getting hired
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In Trump's younger days women were flattered by him and he took advantage of them. Look at him today. The outrage is there but people elected him and they feel stuck. The remedy is to vote out him and his GOP cronies and bring this nation back to sanity.
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She agreed to model lingerie for a man she didn't know? Or were they in an undisclosed relationship? He simply went up to a stranger in a store and asked her to be his intimate model? And this comes out at the same time she's pushing a book?
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@DaveD Per her recall, at the store he said something to the effect of "I know you..you're the advice lady" and she said "You're the real estate guy." Then he asked her "advice" picking a gift for a gf. They were kidding around.
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@DaveD No, she didn't agree. And they weren't strangers - he knew exactly who she was. Read the NY Mag article.
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What is his type? Eastern European with long blond hair? Not too smart or vocal? Looking too intellectual would be a non starter with this egotist who needs a car candy type to dangle on his key chain. He sickens me with most of his tweets.
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Trump's noxious comment goes to the heart of how many in America still view sexual assault and rape, as a possible outcome of being attractive or flirtatious. If you act or dress sexy a man might just become aroused and try to physically attack you. That idea is so ingrained in our psyche that a large portion of the population (men and women) accept what Trump says even if they think he's a heel for saying it so rudely. I know one thing, my HS-age kids reject this thinking outright and often point out statements in the media they find offensive to historically oppressed groups that I've become immune to. I find that encouraging for our society.
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While I sympathize with Ms. Carroll, I wish the media and the congress would focus on the detrimental policies implemented by Trump and his administration.
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DBA
Nice compassion. You may feel differently if this happened to someone close to you. A spouse or daughter?
That's the problem that people such as yourself are too willing to look the other way and "normalize" this behavior.
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@Joe C
What too her so long to reveal this incident? Why didn't she reveal this during the campaign? Sounds like marketing for her book.
Rape is not a crime of passion. It's a crime of violence, anger and domination. Ask any of the more than two dozen women who have credibly accused Trump of rape, including Ms. Carroll. Why did they not come forward when the attack occurred? Look what's happening now. Look what routinely happens to rape victims all over the country, still, today.
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Whoever the Democratic nominee is, I hope he or she will parade the 23+ Trump accusers up on the stage, and with Melania sitting right there. Let's see if Trump and Trumpers and Republicans cheer and guffaw then (which also showed just how unseriously that side of the aisle takes these issues. It's true and an awesome gimmick if it's directed at a Democrat; It's untrue and immoral and disgusting if it's directed at a Republican and if a Democrat parades accusers, with no trials or convictions, up on a stage, and cruel to his wife. Trump exhausts me, but the intellectual dishonesty and depravity of the GOP and the Trump Cult exhaust me and depress me more.
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When rapists plan their assaults, do they wait for “their type” to show up or do they wait for the opportunity?
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“Type” is a red herring in this situation. Sexual predators don’t have “types,” except for those human beings who have the requisite body parts to accommodate the predators’ sick impulses. Sexual assault/rape is about conquest, subjugation, and humiliation, not about sexual fulfillment.
Trump reveals a lot about himself in his response to Ms. Carroll’s story. Even his syntax is revealing: “It never happened. It never happened. OK?” This is the syntax not of telling a simple factual truth. This is the syntax of convincing your listener. This is also the syntax of convincing yourself. It’s too much. It’s too didactic. It’s too demanding. This is a syntax that Trump utilizes frequently. By now we are learning that it telegraphs when Trump has decided that this current statement is now the truth, even though historically, before he was hit in the face with the situation again, it was not.
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Just one question. How long do you think Obama would be in office if these same allegations and claims were against him?
Why are so many politicians just looking the other way? This is just wrong.
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Had she pressed charges at the time of the assault maybe there'd be no "President Trump" today. And there would also have been fewer if any subsequent assaults.
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The irony is that Trump will soon be debating his worthiness for re-election with Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar or any of the other women who are quicker, smarter and far more suited for the presidency than Trump will ever be. Let’s see if he has the nerve to try to do to them what he did to Hillary on the debate stage. I believe the Dem candidates, male and female, will be thoroughly ready for Trump this time around, and his very small bag of tricks will be emptied in short order.
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I believe her.
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@Lifelong New Yorker
100%
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What if Trump didn’t have money and power? Would Trump be “your type?” Look at him. Look at her. I don’t think so.
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This is another reason to "lock him up."
Rape causes trauma with long lasting effects for the victims...
PTSD, Anxiety, Depression, Debilitating Headaches, etc...
It causes a change in the chemical composition of the brain. It is an attack on the entire nervous system.
I am sickened to think of the message that this sends to young boys who are just learning about the idea of consent.
Apparently, the President thinks that Rape is alright if she is your type.
I am furious!
We need to pass much harsher laws on sexual assault/rape to deter horrific crimes that haunt victims for their entire lives.
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What possible relevance does what "Trump says" have to reality at this point?
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"She's not my type." So, the safety of all women in this ape's vicinity involves learning what Trump's "type" is, and studiously avoiding that "look" so he won't attack them. He has never said that rape is wrong, but only commented on whether any given woman is worth the effort of an attack.
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So Donald, are you going to add Ms. Carroll to that long list of women you promised to sue for "falsely" accusing you of sexual assault? I believe you said you'd take action after the 2016 election. At the time, I thought you meant within a few months, not a few years. Oh wait, I guess one of you ace lawyers mentioned that you would certainly have to testify under oath. Yeah, better put that on hold.
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His very denial is incriminating and offensive.
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I just wonder....have we even reached the tip of the iceberg yet?
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22 women have accused Trump of sexual abuse. If only one is telling the truth that is one too many. Why the President isn’t in court or in jail is an amazing travesty of justice. He should be arrested the second he becomes a private citizen again.
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Too many days late and too many dollars short. The timing is wonderful and we should all be fascinated at the parade as it continues.
Uncovered memories are sure to flood the media.
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"Just check her Facebook page"? Once again he says too much in his defense probably because he is defending his self-image as ladies man at the same time he is denying his behavior as a thug. Talk about dissonance! What was he doing on her Facebook page anyway?
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Those teetering on the edge concerning this President, let's unpack his recent statements. It has to dawn on anyone's consciousness that he is a misfit. He says, "She's not my type." and follows with "I don't know who she is." How does that incongruity jive with a sound mind. He is accused of rape, not a foregone relationship. One wonders why any clear headed woman would want to be around him. It is crystal clear he uses women as toys or to advance his image. Nothing else.
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Well at this point it seems the most appropriate response to a red-capped Trump fan screaming “Four more years!” at one of his pep rallies would be “He’s not OUR type!”.
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Like to believe her. But her timing is bad— credibility relies on the motive of the accuser and her coincident release of a book entitled “what do we need men for” does her no favors. the women i have spoken to all say the same thing: Really? Can you say book sales?
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@No One The problem with the "Book Sales" argument is that she already told her story in the NY Magazine. Why buy the book now??
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"She's not my type", of course, as of today, he still likes the women around him at least 20 years younger. This so called "denial" is as transparent as all of 45s lies.
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I understand this has nothing to do with her claim of sexual assault but why would anyone go into a dressing room to model lingerie for a man she barely knows? Her statement that he was, perhaps, going to model it over his suit just seems absurd. I’m not blaming the victim here—the behavior she describes sounds in character for Trump to me — but the setting is just odd.
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To start, I loath Trump with every fiber of my being. But, to be accused of something 23 years after the fact is simply wrong. If there was an assault there would have been either witnesses - (obviously not first hand in the dressing room) whether its friends she told that day, an employee, a doctor - she banged her head - a diary (a la Kavanaugh) anyone who could give even a shred of some corroboration.
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@lastcard jb - She did tell two of her friends immediately after the fact.
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“‘You don’t know. That would not be my first choice.’ As the crowd laughed, he said, ‘Check out her Facebook, you’ll understand.’”
Disgusting as Trump’s actions are, that’s the part I find completely nauseating. That thousands of supporters would laugh at the accusation of rape makes me weep for the country I thought I knew and respected. If that is what making America great means....
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How can the daughters of this country experience the inalienable right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? The confidence of just feeling safe and not to be raped should be an unconditional, extraordinarily basic human right.
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@Mark - I wish I could shake your hand and thank you personally.
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It obviously SHOULD be, but in many, many parts of the world it is not.
That is why women need to protect themselves. We can’t just wait around for anyone else to do it for us.
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He is a serial offender and the sheer fact that his immediate response to disclaim such accusations is to comment on the accuser's apparent attractiveness is, quite simply, staggering. But sadly, not surprising.
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So are we to assume he only assaults women that are "his type"
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The accusation is rape.
The response is to lie ("I never met her").
Use the right words, please.
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Trump claims he never met the woman. So how would he know she is not his type?
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@Charles Focht
He can know she is not his type just by looking at her.
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If that was his true test of “type”, he would have to have been looking at her 25 years ago, wearing lingerie, to know.
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Rape is about power and control. Even 85 year old women are raped. ‘Type’ is irrelevant.
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It doesn’t matter to Trump supporters.
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13 years ago sexual assault was not discussed. It as seen as the woman's fault.
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@Ellen F. Dobson. Judging by many of the comments here, it still is! That is alarming.
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I find it so disgusting and offensive that Trump denies rape and sexual assault allegations by saying that the women “aren’t his type.” What does this mean? If she were his type, then he would have felt entitled to rape her? Or then he would have had an affair with her? Or he just feels the need to pass judgment on a woman’s appearance in every possible circumstance? He’s beyond repulsive. Please read E. Jean Carroll’s account in NY Mag/The Cut, and the specificity of her traumatic memories and see if you think she “made it up.” To those commenters who think she should have spoken up then, look what the consequences have been. Many female survivors do not feel strong enough in the aftermath of an attack to weather the awful criticism and judgment that come with making an accusation against a wealthy and powerful man surrounded by lawyers. As she explains, in her era women were brought up to just put up with it. More than a dozen women have credibly and bravely recounted their stories of rape and sexual assault at his hands—and we’ve even heard him confessing to this behavior and bragging about it on videotape!!—and yet we question and blame the women? I am sick to my stomach and sick of this treatment of women. Nothing sticks to this serial offender. Lock HIM up.
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I would hope that someone who worked in that illustrious department store would step forward and corroborate the story. I know from experience that one was always asked, " Can I help you find anything ?" when one entered the store and it's various departments.
Having worked for some exceedingly wealthy families, I am sure that Bergdorf's catered to the Trumps as they did to several of my clients. It is unfortunate that Ms. Carroll did not report the incident sooner.
Trump is a lying misogynist. Who on earth can rely on anything he says? Were it not for his wealth, he'd have been incarcerated many years ago.
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I believe her, but the circumstances of this case where she placed herself at risk dilute the others and will embolden the denyers. Her book title is insulting. Imagine a male author with the opposite title, Dems are foolish to embrace her.
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@Keith. Women *don’t* need men for anything but procreation. Does that bother you?
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@Keith — HER fault. Bad book title. Got it. He’s totally exonerated!
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POTUS argues around the issue of sexual assault and rape accusations like a pro. It is a dodge of the accusation to focus on the 'type' of woman he finds assault-able. Openly and bold-facedly POTUS(yes, The POTUS) is supporting the idea that rape-assault is normal male prerogative behaviour and admitting that he has rape-assaulted other, more attractive people.
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I wonder if she were his type would he have admitted sexually molesting her? Every woman who accuses him was not her type. That's not a defense considering lately in the news here in NYC there were at least two cases of young men raping women in their eighties. Sexual assault got nothing to do with if the victim is the sexual molester's type. It has to do with power.
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I hope the DNC or Democratic nominee will invite the 22 women, (and counting), who have accused Trump of sexual assault to the first presidential debate and seat them front and center.
Payback time.
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@dc
Trump won't be there. Inviting Bill and Hillary Clinton's victims worked because they were present.
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@Reader In Wash, DC He will be at the 1st Presidential debate, and so would Melania and Ivanka likely be there.
I'm not talking about Democratic debates.
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Evangelicals are proud supporters of Trump. What does this say about Evangelicals?
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One commenter wrote: "I have a feeling this accusation is a tipping point and will be believed by a majority of undecided and swing voters." First of all, anyone who is still a "swing voter" and needs to be persuaded that Trump is an evil, unfit man must have some kind of mental problem. Second, nothing ever touches him. Mueller could have tagged him, and hard, but disastrously, he put too fine a point on his findings and the whole effort went down the drain. The only thing that will be a tipping point on Trump will be a whole lot of body bags. He may know that, instinctively, which may be why he is less belligerent than he makes out to be. (NOT out of any concern for American interests or lives, let's be clear about that.)
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One totally and reliably true thing about Trump: When he utters the word "totally," he is totally lying.
And Ms. Carroll is hardly the only woman he assaulted in similar or more egregious fashion. Totally.
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There's a reasonable argument to be made that Trump's very denials make it more likely, and even near conclusive, that he did indeed rape Ms. Carroll. That argument is based on the fact that the president is a compulsive and constant liar. He has been documented in more than 10,000 lies since his inauguration, and those are only the ones we know about and could specifically document. His entire life is one enormous exercise in lying, and his lies are so second-nature to him that he seems to lie as much for recreation as for self-defense and deflection. And his pattern is that he largely lies in ways designed to put himself in the best possible light, which is most of the time not even that light, and certainly not credible.
So, it is actually more likely that when the president says ANYTHING, it is a lie. That is the norm for this guy. Given that, there is a good probability that the opposite of what the president says is the actual truth. In other words, we are better off and more likely to be correct if we simply assume that EVERYTHING he says is dissembled falsehood, in the absence of any other information. That is true to the point that you could seriously bet on it. And given that, his protestations about not assaulting Ms. Carroll can be reasonably assumed a lie. The evidence of the 20+ woman who have similarly, publicly accused him of sexual assault makes this particular case pretty much of a slam-dunk.
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@Concerned Citizen I am not talking about the legal system here. I am talking about the truth. Don't confuse the two. The legal system has all sorts of features that even obscure truth in the name of other values. That is as it should be; but the world of actual truth and probability is another realm altogether.
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@Concerned Citizen
Who wrote anything about our "legal system"? Calling out a confirmed predator has nothing to do with the country's legal system. There is a monster in the people's house.
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We have learned the phrases that are Trump’s “tell” such as “not my type”
and “I don’t know that person”
which means he is lying.
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My only wish (unfortunately cannot be granted), was/is that ALL the women who Trump has assaulted would have had the courage to come together and expose him BEFORE he was elected by millions who pooh-pooh respect for women. Now, the trickle of his history that is exposed hardly has an impact as he daily (and sometimes hourly) assaults our whole nation.
Just imagine if this allegation had been against Obama...the GOP would have booted him out of the White House before the ink was dry on the newspapers.
And for those who cast doubt upon the accusers, ask yourself if YOU would have the courage and strength to face the establishment the way victims of Kavenaugh or the millions of women who report sexual assault do when they come forward.
Our nation has lost its moral compass and probably deserves the president we have. The course we follow now through post Election Day 2020 will write the character of our democracy in stone for all eternity.
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@Mountain Dragonfly I agree with most of what you write. However, I will not believe that our nation deserves this guy as "president". Never. A. He did not win the popular vote. B. His approval ratings hover between the low 30s and mid 40s. C. Polls don't begin to measure the extreme dislike many people have for him, and the shock so many feel for his behavior. The word "disapprove" doesn't cut it.
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So in other words:
“I think I didn’t assault her because I usually assault the women who I think are pretty”.
Or more accurately:
“I probably did. But it’s much more likely I didn’t because based on the fact I usually attack 20 year olds, and she’s like 70 (now) then I’m probably innocent. What? Twenty years ago? Still over my age limit, so, innocent. Pass me the Twitter.”
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Power is his type.
This is not a country that will tolerate Trump again. If it is,
I'm in the wrong country.
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I have scraped better things than Donald Trump off the bottom of my shoe.
I read E. Jean Carroll's article on Friday and it turned my stomach. I have no doubt that what she described happened as written. I'm at a loss. I'm so furious. We have a repeatedly-accused sexual predator befouling our oval office. I will never understand, for the life of me, why the Access Hollywood tape didn't end his candidacy. I can't understand why this isn't the end, now.
And yet, the Republican party supports this. All Republicans in congress stand in mute lockstep with Trump, even in this. Evangelical Christians support this. Republican voters support this. Again, I am at a loss. I thought Americans were generally decent.
What enrages, beyond the present horrific accusation, is the utter lack of accountability for the elite in our society whether they be politicians, celebrities, titans of business, or the wealthy. There are never legal repercussions of any real magnitude. They behave horrifically with impunity. That is what erodes societies, and confidence in the rule of law. This cannot - must not- continue. This cannot go unpunished.
There is no statute of limitations for predatory sexual assault in New York state.
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And Al Franken was compelled, against all better judgment, for what was only a bad joke. Albeit a joke he never should have committed.
But Al has moral bearings though and Trump has none.
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During the Clinton administration, Christians, Catholics and Republicans alike took up the anthem, "character matters". Now Christians, Catholics and certainly Republicans simply overlook the frequent lapses of character of our current president.
What happened?
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@Julia Ellegood: Trump’s character is 100% lapses. But he upsets liberals and other people who value integrity and competence, so his fans eat it up and clamor for more.
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She might not have been his type, but such was the man’s generosity that he was willing to compromise on his standards.
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For first time ever, I have my doubts. The fact that she is promoting a book and her attack at the same time, it makes my ick factor skyrocket. Tend to believe her, want to, but she has handled this poorly for all these years by not reporting the attack, keeping the secret. Surely she is a stronger and more secure woman than that.....
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@Gayle H. Yeah, and I am sure climate change doesn't quite square for you either does it.
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I'm not sure that saying a woman is not Mr. Trump's type is an insult. Indeed, more of a compliment to the lady in question.
Tellingly, however, that was Mr. Trump's first reaction when asked about Ms. Carroll's accusation. I should like to think that--all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding--the overwhelming majority of men would reply, "I would never think of doing something like that."
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Mr. Trump should be held accountable for his gross actions, taken down just like Mr. Bill Cosby. Sixteen women....they can't all be lying.
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And the press has dwelled on Biden's placing his hands on a woman's shoulders....??????
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@harry, here is a new verb. "to franken" someone. biden's opponents including media are attempting to franken him to get rid of him. I am waiting for al's new book. I will skip my library and buy it. his blistering attack on Jeff sessions was apparently too difficult for the delicate flowers of the democratic party. and that reminds me, Gillibrand. never. go do some more corporate work supporting gun rights.
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Yes, Trump's a rapist. Yes, I believe her. Yes, never, ever blame the victim. It's truly a nightmare that this violent man is our president! But please folks--teach your kids to use common sense in order to try and stay safe. Following a large man into a dressing room (he did not pull her in) after agreeing to try on lingerie (?!?) for his gaze was not the best decision.
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The man with the evangelical vote all locked up already.
All those 'good' small-c christians need to remind me how God chose him to lead this country.
Bizzaro-world.
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I didn't know that rapists have a "type." But apparently, Trump is implicitly admitting that there are women he's raped who are his type. Just another article for impeachment to add to the long list: obstruction of justice; accepting illegal campaign aid from a foreign government; an unidicted co-conspirator (with Michael Cohen) in a felony to commit election fraud; violating the emoluments clause by profiting from his DC and other hotels; not protecting the lives of American citizens (Jamal Khashoggi a resident; Otto Warmbier) at the hands of foreign governments (Saudi Arabia and North Korea); reckless endangerment of the lives of immigrant children seeking refuge here; and conspiring (with William Barr) to undermine the C.I.A. and the F.B.I. and the "rule of law" they enforce. The tragedy unfolding before our eyes is the undermining of the Constitution and the unraveling of our democracy. Again I must ask, "Where's Nancy?"
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@Paul Wortman
I agree ! Every day I struggle with “why is he above the law”. He should be in jail.
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@Paul Wortman
Nancy is trying. Where is Mitch!
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@Ernest Ciambarella Only Nancy can "green light" an impeachment inquiry. We the People need to see the evidence and hear from all the witnesses that Trump is obstructing. That should be enough without taking it to the Senate which has long ago abandoned defending the Constitution to defending Trump.
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A dirty dog doesn't need a type. They go after anything.
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It took me a long time to believe Bill Cosby drugged and raped women and today he's in prison. The number of women who accuse Trump of assault keeps growing. They can't all be lying. He belongs in prison, too, and he certainly has no business being President of the United States.
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There is no doubt in my mind that E. Jean Carroll was assaulted by Trump. His memory, like his morals, is non existent.
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The real problem is that no one really seems surprised about these allegations about our current president. That's the truly sad part.
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Everything is always about him. That should be an official definition for Narcissism
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If our political system has no way, or declines, to cope with this and countless other credible allegations, along with Trump's daily law-breaking, lying, the threats he poses to national security and the rampant child abuse occurring at the southern border, maybe there's something wrong with that system?
The common refrain -- elections are the best way to remove unfit politicians -- seems just a mite inadequate.
What if starts a war before he's gone? Or -- worse?
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Can we at least presume that the dress is being checked for DNA evidence while we're clarifying exactly *who* the psychopath's type is?
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@D. Owens
It won’t matter. It wouldn’t matter if he announced a sexual assault in advance and live-streamed the whole thing on Youtube. Women are disposable. Trump is God. The message is clear. Good luck explaining it to your daughters.
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Once again, we are reminded that Trump is just disgusting, and always has been.
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Why won't she call it rape? If it was in any way consensual, she should admit it. If it wasn't, it was rape and she should call it that. It harms her credibility to play word games, in my opinion. And her credibility is important here because Donald Trump has none.
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@Lyle The fact that she, as a trauma survivor, has trouble with using the word rape has 0 impact on her credibility.
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Disgusting.
I can’t believe he’s our President.
What have we become?
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The silence from the GOP is deafening. This from the party that had a feeding frenzy over Bill Clinton. Shame on them.
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Trump's nose just keeps on getting longer every time he resorts to his schoolyard bully insults.
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I was looking for this story in the New York Times yesterday. Glad to see it's finally being covered today, but why did it take so long? The sitting president of the United States being credibly accused of rape again - by the 22nd person - is big, very, very troubling news.
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“It’s the same,” Ms. Carroll said. “He denies it. He turns it around. He attacks and then he threatens. I am sick of it. Think how many women have come forward. Nothing happens.”
Look at us. We elected a demented, sex abuser, and that is just the start of a long list of the dangerous, ugly, ignorant and corrupt characteristics of the man. Think of this America, Trump makes Putin look good.
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As the leader of the Evangelicals of America Mr. Trump once again proves the garb of the Evangelicals is made of strands of misogyny, white supremacy, racism, ill-manners, narcissism covered with a false coat of Christianity.
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Why go into a lingerie dressing room with no one around , holding a see through garment and with a married millionaire womanizer ? No, I'm not saying she was asking for it no no no. I'm asking the question ...why?
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@JP - It doesn't matter "why", what matters is that he did it. She could have walked through Bergdorf's naked and he still would have had no right to touch her without her consent, let alone assault her. The question we need to be asking is why he did it, not why she was alone with him.
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@JP And so you unpack the trickiness of this debate, and the similar raging debates.
Women and men make stupid decisions. Few people would encourage their friend/sister/daughter to enter a closed room in/with a see-through garment with a known womanizer.
But some would see it as an act of empowerment and control; e.g a a Sex&theCity scene. But neither means they're 'asking for it'
But (I hope) few would argue that if one decided the fun was over, that the other could force themselves on the other.
@JP
Maybe because she felt entitled to respect?
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I don’t know if they keep editing this article but the first version I read in the NYT had E Jean Carroll saying that Trump pentrated her partly or fully against her will. That’s RAPE. There is no other word for it. And that’s the THIRD allegation that Trump has raped: the first one is his former wife, Ivana, where he allegedly also pulled out her hair, and the second is that allegation with Jeffrey Epstein, another sex offender, where they possibly raped a young teen. So where there’s smoke there’s fire. This is disgusting. How does Trump continue to get away with his various and sundry criminal acts all these years?? It makes the mind reel.
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@Kan Apparently saying it is not "rape" is her way of dealing with it and compartmentalizing it. Her friend told her that it was rape right after it happened. My guess is that she had worked and lived in New York long enough and knew enough about Trump to know that reporting it would be useless anyway. Look how he has treated all the accusations against him. Those with "proof" he paid off; those without he vilifies and tries to ruin. Same way he treated contractors and workers. Deny and crush.
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Two perverted supreme court justices, one seriously perverted leader of the free world with the willing support of the treasonous republicans, will, in the short term, inflict much damage on the good people of the U.S. Hopefully, as the world becomes more aware of he monster we have in the white house, the tide will turn. Unfortunately, I fear it won't be in my lifetime
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if ms. carroll is not his type, then, it sounds as though trump does have a type for rape. nothing like specifics.
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Trump is consistently using "she is not my type" as a reason for denying these claims, but what people need to remember is that rape and assault has very little to do with type, and everything to do with power and control! Trump has degraded women his entire life, and he has used his power to do this, it is time for the American people to say enough is enough!!!
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