New York’s Toughest Homeless Problem

May 30, 2019 · 71 comments
Olivia (NYC)
Instead of building four new mega-jails in our residential boros, DeBlasio should build new mental hospitals that include drug and alcohol rehabilitation. The majority of homeless single men and women need these services.
Girish Kotwal (Louisville, KY)
Problem of homelessness in urban America especially in America's megacities has reached beyond hopeless. America cannot cope with its own problems and therefore should not try to take on problems of the rest of the world until it finds satisfactory resolutions pf its own problems. Even the city I live in has increasing number of homeless at every corner even with decent homeless shelters. Prompt attention is needed before the situation worsens. It does not seem to be due to unemployment alone. which seems low. It is multiple causes.
Omarr (Brooklyn)
The availability of housing is one of the many problems; and although it is a major one--it doesn't necessarily capture the full scope of the issue. Let's imagine that would could house and service every homeless person in NYC. Great! But what are they actually suppose to do when they aren't sleeping or receiving mental health services? Are they suppose to stay inside all day? For the most part, many of them will still end up in public spaces; in parks, sleeping on sidewalks, loitering from place to place and still to a larger extent remain in the public view and still remain pretty much as visible as they are now.
ms (ca)
Perhaps I missed it but it is not clear to me how a safe haven is different than a regular homeless shelter. I've volunteered in shelters as a medical volunteer and I know some people avoid them because of concerns about safety, violence, and theft. I also know that some shelters do not allow families with an adult male member while others have strict rules around men and women mixing even if they are a couple, etc. Ultimately, what is needed is FREE and comprehensive psychiatric care and substance abuse treatment for those people who would avail themselves of it were it available. Although not a psychiatrist, I have taken care of people with severe psychotic disorders who are functioning members of society and can support themselves because they had access to care.
H (NYC)
NYC homeless shelters can be large basketball court sized dormitories. They’re temporary overnight housing. You have to vacate them during the daytime. You often don’t have anywhere to safely store possessions and the environment is often chaotic. If you’re lucky, the city places you in the blocks of hotel rooms rented out as emergency housing. The homeless population is actually quite diverse. You mostly have people temporarily homeless because of a family dispute, illness, job loss, apartment fire, eviction, etc. Many homeless in NYC actually have jobs. Those individuals and families generally transition out of the homeless system in a year or two, while they sort out their lives and find affordable/subsidized housing. The people in this article are the chronically homeless, often those with mental illness and/or addiction problems. They need intensive support or even institutionalization. This safe haven housing appears geared toward placing them in a fixed and accessible location so social workers and medical professionals can do their work. It doesn’t have all the rules and restrictions in the standard shelters. It’s more like SRO or apartment rentals combined with intense social services.
ms (ca)
@H Thanks for the explanation. Your 2nd paragraph is important. When I was volunteering I learned that about 70% of the homeless are temporarily homeless (i.e. less than a year total). Most of the time, people who have lost a job, been evicted, had a medical issue that bankrupted them. About 30% were what was deemed the chronically homeless. Also volunteered at a church-operated teen shelter where many were LGBTQ youth who had been thrown out by their families. Yes, located at a church but a progressive one.
AVR (Va)
I agree with the commenter who said the problem is mental illness and addiction (not what we euphemistically like to refer to as “homelessness.”) Just providing housing to the mentally ill and addicted is not going to fix the problem. Why not safe spaces with a limited number of beds where the mentally ill can live and receive the treatment and medications they need? Shutting down large inhumane mental institutions was well meaning, but sadly no one thought of Plan B if things didn’t work out.
Reiam (NYC)
@AVR - I know years ago in CA there was a Plan B when the closed the big institutions. The problem was they didn't fund Plan B (thanks for nothing, Reagan) and so it never materialized. It often comes down to funding.
Susan Beaver (Cincinnati)
I'm a social worker in Cincinnati with years of experience working with the homeless, most of whom grew up in poverty & are dual-diagnosis. The callousness of the responses here take my breath away.
Hk (Planet Earth)
Nice job, DeBlasio, filling New York’s streets with more and more homeless people. Is that your way of solving what you call ‘income inequality.’ Good luck in explaining your “successes” to the American people in your run for the presidency.
Rational Person (Kirkland)
When those paying the bill get fed up with “campers” having no obligation to a social compact (helping those in need, even in some cases against their will if they refuse to adhere to basic standards) then those folks paying the bill will decide also to give up on that social contract, eventually they will elect a more extreme approach, low on true attitude of caring for your fellow human, and resort to violence. See examples of this from Philippines to Brazil. Let’s not join those nations by acting now to address “campers”! Build what’s needed, no refusal allowed if living in public open spaces. Those footing the bill want to see results, and “campers” are a small percentage of the homeless overall. Don’t endanger those “non-camper” homeless, especially children, by breaking the social contract with “campers”! Enforce laws or pass new ones to immediately to begin reducing the “campers”, especially those who are battling addiction, hopefully not in jail but in likely in secured treatment facilities. It will cost a lot more, but it might help turn the trend of homeless addicts and reduce the negative effect they have on public support to help the much larger population of homeless due to causes other than drug problems.
Snake6390 (Northern CA)
Why do homeless get to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world? We should get them shelter and humanitarian aid...in a place that's 1/10th the cost for housing. Plenty of cheap places in upstate NY.
Reiam (NYC)
@Snake6390 - problem is that there is no transportation or services. These people don't have cars, you put them upstate and how are they going to get around? Get to the doctors, the grocery store, etc. The buses in most areas are pretty scattered. If they get a job, how do they get to it? It's a pretty idea to put them upstate, but it's not practical. They also have their own homeless up there.
Carol M (Los Angeles)
Housing First. People can’t get their lives together if they’re simply struggling to stay alive. And even small children do better when given choices, when they feel some autonomy. Get people, sheltered, then deal with the rest.
Worrier (United States)
Tough love may be needed. What if…we enforced vagrancy laws and picked up vagrants each night and transported them to a camp for two weeks of “support” - medical, social, legal etc. Free food, new clothing, eye glasses, dental etc. Then, at the end of the two weeks, they would be released again to return to the streets or, have the option of employment and housing, if they will accept it. If not, pick them up again, and again, and release them again and again until they become comfortable with re-integration into society. Surely this is not a new idea. Has any city ever tried it?
wilson (va)
you obviously don't understand mental illness.
AVR (Va)
@Worrier Forced vagrant camps. Sounds great.
Reiam (NYC)
@Worrier - two weeks does nothing. Think more on the lines of two years. And a camp? Are they allowed to leave or is it a prison? Yes, these people need support and housing, but they have to want it. They have to make the choice to get help and get better. Sure it would be great if everyone could adhere to your arbitrary timeline, but if you have mental issues or substance abuse problems your timeline isn't helpful.
Dutch (Seattle)
Hard to believe the women with children and grandchildren can't take her in - are they in prison or something? If they are not, I hope they read this article
jack (NY)
All of us who make more than 75K, here in NYC, should pay an additional 1% for the homeless. This problem needs money. we need to build and sustain more shelters. We need to give these folks some vocational training for a livelihood. Progressive taxation begins with us. NYC gives us so much-what is 1%?
Olivia (NYC)
@jack People in the state of New York are already highly taxed. Time for corrupt politicians to use our tax money to help those in need.
Geraldine (ACT Australia)
The comments are as diverse as the people, for me it comes back to the fact that all people deserve help in times of hardship surely government should encourage different approaches to helping homeless people as has been stated it's complicated, but these are fellow humans. We too in Australia have similar problems but not so visible. Geraldine.
Walker (USA)
Hope Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders wins Presidency! Never seen America so: Polarized or Divided in my life! Vote Democratic All the way and impeach Trump ASAP!
Don Juan (Washington)
DeBlasio gives the Democrats a bad name. He is out for himself. Actually, like all the folks elected to higher office; getting fat off the public trough, promising much but delivering next to nothing.
Liz (Florida)
How about taking the view that the public has the right to go about their business without encountering nasty filth and smells? Filthy people have the right to plop themselves down in the say, library, stinking up the place and muttering while the public chokes and dodges around them? I do believe that is the philosophy of the Dems. The many must suffer on behalf of the few. This article talks about huge sums being expended on just one person. Madness.
NGB (North Jersey)
@Liz , yes. For one "filthy" person. It's not madness. It's called "compassion," for which we humans like to pat ourselves in the back, until that compassion becomes something of a personal inconvenience. It's not about political affiliation. There is a woman who lives in my town who was excoriated for being a Republican during an election a few years back. She did more to help one of our homeless neighbors find an apartment of her own, plowing through all the necessary red tape, NIMBY-ism, and other obstacles for months to make it happen, than anyone I've ever met. And she wants to do more of it. Republican, Democrat, or anything else, I would vote for her to be Empress of the Universe at this point. Perhaps you can search for some similar form of madness in yourself. Perhaps we all can. It's the kind of madness we desperately need right now.
Liz (Florida)
@NGB A lot of people on the right are heavily involved in charitable projects. It should not be that difficult to get a person in filth and dire straits off the street. Getting the person off the street is the true compassion in my view.
Susan Beaver (Cincinnati)
Yikes. Decent folk suffer when they see someone in distress. Shame on you!
Scott (NYC)
Camp LaGuardia, closed by Bloomberg, actually worked. But it won't be re-opened because De Blasio is owned by the landlord lobby which benefits hugely from the homeless problem. $117 a night to house the homeless -- for that price they could get a hotel room upstate with a continental breakfast and free wifi.
Rational Person (Kirkland)
We have the same problem in Seattle, that is to say politicians in the name of compassion or fairness, refuse to clear out public “campers” who refuse services but find the means to feed their drug addictions and create a toxic mess in addition to crimes that we then also have to pay to remediate. We want to help the homeless, including funding mental health and drug treatment and permanent housing for the long term disabled, but by allowing the “campers” and all their crime, garbage, human waste, and the danger posed to public health from their behavior, we diminish public support (i.e. tax support) that needed for real solutions. People give up and demand a hard edge lock them up or force them out approach without supportive action that might help long term. A decrease in willingness to help all homeless and adoption of dehumanizing language/attitudes is the result of allowing “campers” to set the rules for use of public space.
Amy (Brooklyn)
Getting rid of de Blasio has has Democratic Socialists would help a lot. "Landlords Get a $173 Million Deal From City as Their Lawyer Raises Funds for de Blasio" "https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/nyregion/homeless-buildings-sold-de-blasio-democrats.html"
Don Juan (Washington)
@Amy But now the man is running for President.
David (Flushing)
Meanwhile we have empty state mental hospitals. Do people have a right to be crazy and endanger themselves and occasionally others? Legal institutionalization needs to be rethought.
Michelle (Fremont)
@David Some cities/states are considering exactly that: conservatorship. San Francisco is one of them.
Reiam (NYC)
@David - maybe you should look into why we no longer have those mental hospitals. Check out their history and you may be in for a surprise and why they were closed down.
BostonReader (Boston, MA)
There are a lot of social problems that can't be fixed. Homelessness is just one of them. I used to give money to "help the homeless" back in the 80s and 90s, but stopped. Despite the people who say "this model works" and "that new way of doing things works" it's obvious, while a few people may be helped in this manner -- and good for them! -- we do not know how to fix this at a high level. So the problem just keeps going on and on and on. Every few months a determinedly hopeful article in the newspaper shows, more than anything else, that our society has no way at all for facing the fact that there is no solution available for this. We just can't believe that a lot of things are beyond our solution capabilities. So a lot of us -- especially our journalists -- have an ostrich's rather sandy view of the world.
Earthgirl (US)
I wonder if every American adult had a universal basic income of about $1,000 a month if this would do anything to reduce homelessness? Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang says it would.
Brad (Oregon)
@Earthgirl or would $24,000 a year be the new no income? I really don't know. And what would happen to section 8 housing, medicaid, SNAP (food stamps), social security disability, and EIC? Would the $24k be in addition?
Don Juan (Washington)
@Earthgirl -- that amount would include food stamps and housing allowance as well as welfare? Without earning some underground money how is one to make it? Currently with the help of a myriad of government programs or basic income? Better way to provide serious job training in areas where people can actually make some money. Hint: cut out the "for profit" trade schools. Why is it not like in Europe that companies (!) train and then hire the best they've trained? This can apply to plumbing, electric, and a host of other companies. Cut out the "for profit vulture trade schools" and instead ask the industry to step up and provide an apprenctisehip
Art Layton (Mattapoisett, MA)
Stray dogs are taken off the streets and given assistance. Hard to believe we allow drug-addicted and mentally I'll humans to live on the streets.
Michelle (Fremont)
@Art Layton The problem is, many refuse help, and won't even go to a shelter. Right now, cities/states don't have the rights to force them into treatment or mental hospitals.
AVR (Va)
@Art Layton Dogs are actually grateful to come live with you.
S.L. (Briarcliff Manor, NY)
If someone is living on the street and refuses help that is a good indication of mental illness. Under the guise of civil rights, mental institutions were closed and people scattered to the street. It is society's job to care for those who can't do it themselves. The city should confiscate the buildings of landlords who are not caring for them and refit them with small rooms for the chronically homeless so they have a place to keep their things, know where they can sleep safely, shower and use the restroom. Social services can attend to their needs without having to scour the streets looking for their clients. People of NYC should not have to walk around the homeless, their bags of stuff or their droppings.
Don Juan (Washington)
@S.L. No, the city should not confiscate the buildings of landlords. Rather, the city should tax the companies that are partially or mainly responsible for creating this problem. Present Google, Facebook, and others with the bill since they have created homelessness driving out people so the better-to-do can have a home!
Dutch (Seattle)
@S.L. Where are these buildings not being cared for? Most landlords are renovating buildings to raise rents, and if they are not a new landlord will buy it. Plus, that is a "taking", and the courts will tie up that as the property rights are argued
Dutch (Seattle)
@Don Juan Really? You are going to blame a few companies. Tax the police department, they were so effective at reducing the violent crime that ravaged NYC in the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's that people felt safe moving back and employers looking to hire talented people followed them. The reduction and the popularization of urban living on TV (Friends, Seinfeld, etc) is what led to more people wanting to live there and drive up housing costs. Supply and demand. Some people moved out of the city and others moved to the streets, but let's not kid ourselves, drugs and mental illness are a big factor and you can't blame them on a few tech firms. And, no, I do not work in tech and never have.
Jeff (Philadelphia)
I'm surprised that this article didn't mention Housing First, a national evidence-based model for chronically homeless people. The model originated in New York and has extensive research evidence to support its effectiveness. The research has shown that homeless shelters don't work well for complex chronically homeless people experiencing addiction and mental health challenges. Instead, by moving a person directly into their own apartment, using harm-reduction techniques, allowing the patient some agency and autonomy; they can have great outcomes. They will often spontaneously reduce their addiction from the safety and security of a quiet apartment. Some data shows that shelters only succeed 20-30% of time for the most complex people whereas housing first can succeed up to 90% of the time. The barriers to the spread of housing first are often the technical ability of the social service provider....it's really hard to train staff to do the model with fidelity and the challenges of managing the voucher process. To succeed, housing first needs to be a no barrier entry model. A homeless person would move from the street one day and then directly into a new apartment the next day. Thanks.
Debbie (United States)
@Jeff I was also wondering the same thing. The Housing First model has made a great deal of difference in my community in the way we respond to chronically homeless individuals. Coordinated Entry is also making it easier for people to move from homelessness to safe housing.
Reiam (NYC)
@Honeybee - that is pretty much an apartment. A studio apartment, but an apartment nonetheless. Which is appropriate for a single person. And yes, it's the way to start on the path to getting well, a place to call home.
Aaron (Phoenix)
Thank you for this article. Homelessness is a multifaceted problem, and the people who end up on the streets usually have, as you eloquently put it, a "constellation of problems." There's an exploitative "homeless makeover" video by a Brooklyn-based social media "influencer" that's been making the rounds on LinkedIn for the last couple of months. It boils my blood. Well-meaning people who do not understand the complexities of homelessness love it and think what they're seeing is genuine and life changing. Besides exploiting a young unsheltered man in order to generate followers and revenue, it grossly oversimplifies the work required to help someone achieve lasting self-sufficiency and gives the impression that all it takes to fix homelessness is a haircut, some new clothes and a job offer. Were it only so simple.
dairyfarmersdaughter (Washinton)
While homeless people deserve help and compassion, the rest of us also deserve a safe and sanitary environment. Often the "rights" of the homeless are held as being much more important than the rights of the general public to not have to navigate endless streams of garbage, and environmental hazards such as needles and feces. At some point just because some don't want to conform I lose sympathy for them. For those suffering from mental illness or needing help trying to find shelter, we should do all we can.
Zejee (Bronx)
It seems that safe havens are a solution. What’s your solution? The homeless population is only going to grow
Mary Ann (Erie)
If shelter space is available, people aren’t homeless, they are camping illegally. Under the guise of being kind, NYC is leaving its mentally ill lying on sidewalks. It is long past time to enforce laws against camping, public urination, and so on. Diversionary programs then would send willing folks to services instead of jail. Apparently this approach is working in Miami.
Irene Cantu (New York)
DeBlasio needs to stop campaigning for a futile presidential bid and do his job - be the mayor of New York. I saw a man crawling on 6th ave the other day - it was the most horrible sight that I had ever seen in my life. Something needs to be done.
Hugh Massengill (Eugene Oregon)
Writing as one who lived homeless for years, in Oregon and California, it is apparent to me that we need to totally rethink our social systems that help homeless people. We need to start from the bottom and make sure there is shelter space for every American, absolutely every one. Here in Eugene Oregon, a county that is about the size of Ct.,there is no public shelter. It is an illusion to say that the private corporate structure will provide housing for all, or jobs for all, for the fact is, many of us will never again fit in that mold, and the housing markets in cities price most of us out into the cold. As an American, if indeed the homeless person is such, that person owns America. They own the land, they own the oil, they own the forests and the seas, they own the highways. In Oregon, where half of the land is owned by federal or state, they are landowners. Yet no one acts as their intermediary to charge monies and get that money to the poor. I watched many trucks laden with lumber from my Willamette National Forest, but never was given a penny for my property. So that New Yorker, if asked if taxes on the rich should be raised to provide for the survival of the poor, would reply..."of course". We poor have been turned into refugees in our own country, and that needs to change. I so hope Bernie gets the White House, my house. Hugh
Karen (Midwest)
@Hugh Massengill The government raises revenue from lumber, etc., and use it similarly to the way they use money from other sources such as taxes. You say you can never again fit in the mode of having a job, why is that? Many of us don’t feel like working, but we want to support ourselves, paying for our own food and shelter. If we are lucky and work hard, we might become successful. Does that successful person then owe it to you to support you? To feed and shelter you as well as their own family and friends? While I don’t mind helping out those truly in need with mental illness, poor health, etc., I don’t think I should have to support people who just don’t feel like working because they prefer their freedom. These people should learn skills and get a job like the rest of us.
Brad (Oregon)
@Karen I agree. While this is a national problem, in the Portland area it's shockingly bad. Homelessness is complicated, people must be driven to services where they can get help and get on their own feet. Those who choose to live outside societal norms, must be driven off as that's NOT acceptable.
Karen (Midwest)
@Brad It’s really quite astounding, isn’t it? And often rather frightening. I have been followed by people screaming out crazy things, and angrily harassed for not giving a someone money. I’m not fond of direct donations because I’d rather that money (with my taxes) go towards a shelter, food, and other necessities.. Some of these guys make pretty good money off panhandling, and then use it for drink or drugs. Why wouldn’t they stick around and panhandle more if they like their lives as is?
Laura (New York)
Meanwhile, they're turning the savoy hotel in midtown into a homeless shelter. It costs $50,000 per person per year. That's more than double the rent on a studio apartment on the upper east side. And they are sharing rooms. When you're paying that kind of money to house the homeless, money runs out pretty quickly....
Katrin (Wisconsin)
@Laura These chronically homeless people are the ones who cycle in and out of the justice system -- jail, court, programming, jail, prison, etc. -- and they cost way more than $50,000 a year to manage and don't get better. Maybe this approach is better?
Reiam (NYC)
@Laura - is part of the cost to have social service offices there? And it's not really double the rent on a studio unless you are in the outer boroughs. As Katrin says it costs more to cycle them through the justice system. Sure, it's not the cheapest solution, but if it's done right it might stop some other higher costs. I don't know what the answer is, but we have to try. I just hope it's not an SRO rip off like so many of the other ones have been in the past.
Felicia (Massachusetts)
If I lived in NYC I would like to work with Ms. Coover. Meanwhile, I will do what I can here where I live.
J (NYC)
If you want to know where the city's priorities are all you have to do is look at the 96th St. stop on the Q train on any given morning. If police are there, they are watching only for fare evasion. Meanwhile, just down the stairs, you have homeless people who have set up camp in subway cars, complete with garbage strewn about the train, shopping carts, unwashed bodies that smell so much that everyone simply abandons one or more cars on the train, and, from time to time, people yelling to themselves. Every day. Without fail. I'm all for helping people, and these people clearly need help. But I have to go to work and I just want to, for once, be able to get on the train at 7am and not have not navigate a sea of homeless people who are sleeping on the benches and leaving garbage everywhere. If that makes me a horrible human being, then I guess I'm awful. How about the police walk down the stairs and clear the train? Of course they won't, because there's no money in that for the city.
nom de guerre (Kirkwood, MO)
@J At the same time you're wishing they weren't on the train, those homeless people are wishing they could be in a safe private space. Let's hope this program takes care of their needs.
Zejee (Bronx)
Where are the homeless supposed to go?
Rufus (Planet Earth)
@nom de guerre 'homeless people are wishing they could be in a safe private space. ' - I've spent a lifetime paying for and struggling(like everyone else) to keep a safe. clean roof over my head. no handouts. Without any skin in the game, the homeless will never have their own safe, private space. There is no free ride. Except for those who have figured out how to game the system.
Lisa (NYC)
Thank you ladies - God's work.
Fred (NY)
NYC's homeless problem is at epidemic proportions. You can barely walk any street in Manhattan without running into someone homeless. All this is happening under De Blasio whose motto is "fairness". It's mind-boggling that the richest city in the world hasn't been able to deal with the homeless issue for decades. Travel to any major city in the world (many much less wealthy than NYC) and you'll see that many don't have this problem at all. This indicates major dysfunction at the institutions responsible for tackling this issue, i.e., officials are not doing their jobs. The city can take a simple data-driven approach to this. If the number of homeless doesn't go down under a certain official's rule, they need to be fired and replaced with someone that can get the job done!
jeff
@Fred They have rights apparently, not so easy if it is a choice they have made.
Michael M. (New York, NY)
@Fred San Francisco is even worse than NYC.
Mary (NC)
@Michael M. NYC tops the homeless population with a supposed population of 63029. San Francisco has a homeless population of about 7000.