There Are New Options in Trans Underwear

May 01, 2019 · 22 comments
nom de guerre (Kirkwood, MO)
I'm surprised at the amount of comments relaying discomfort with this article. Who cares, it's just underwear! I found the article informative of a subject with which I've little knowledge.
NJ (NJ)
I find the coverage of transgender people in the NYT Styles section excessive and almost prurient. Is it appropriate to devote so much ink to individuals' genitalia and how they choose to present? Are there so many readers of the NYT who need to know this information with so much graphic detail? You have to write for your audience. I feel this level of detail is far too graphic and ultimately, it becomes just titillation and entertainment for a reader who is gawking at transgender lifestyle
karen l (Pennsylvania)
This article was extremely helpful in clarifying that a small percentage of transgender people receive "bottom surgery". By discussing transgender lingerie and underwear in a thoughtful and creative way, I have a much broader understanding of the transgender community and their needs. Thank you, NYTimes for waking me up!
insomnia data (Vermont)
Thank you for this article. Some will find it too revealing; others will say it takes up too much ink. But the majority of folks I know do not care about the daily details of their trans friends' lives. I learned some things I had never thought about.
peter (nyc)
I'm grateful for the article. Any illumination on any aspect of transgender will help me to avoid a gaffe I'll make that I always feel is just around the corner.
Anne-Marie Hislop (Chicago)
Those who find this 'beneath' the NYT or 'not news' could simply have moved on when they saw what the article was about. I found it interesting and helpful to learn something more about what trans folks struggle with in their transition (call it 'human interest,' which is also a very valid area of reporting). Note to trans folks - many, if not most, non-trans women do not have underwear which matches top and bottom into a cute, coordinated little set. Many of us buy the pieces separately - just sayin.
Willa D (NYC)
Happy to see you covering this! Always looking to learn more about the challenges of my trans friends so I can be more supportive. Will be sharing.
Paul (NYC)
I am CIS male, older and not versed in these topics. I understand the complaint about the trivial non-news here. However I did learn something and I find it interesting that so many adolescents are gender fluid. Much respect and love to all. Now tell me about more important medical and social issues affecting this community and within the wider scope of histt, geography.
Michael (Pittsburgh)
@Paul Based on your beyond "Wow!" usage of politically correct terminology in the composition of your comment, I suspect you are well versed in all of the medical and social issues you request the Times provide more coverage of.
Jaime Collins (Mount Horeb, WI)
Seriously, NYT? Of all the things in the transgender world there are to cover, of all the hate and inequity and lost lives, not to mention beautiful and compelling stories of courage and vulnerability in a hostile society, you see a sliver of a story in trans under wear and decide it needs 2,200 words with big photos of my peeps wearing the stuff. Enough of your brain dead treatment of our community already. You and all the other mainstream media LOOOOOVE to talk about our bodies and boobs and show us putting on make up and high heels. Then, when it comes to a frightful DHHS memo... or important new medical guidelines on treating trans kids, you don't even bother to interview actual trans people, and instead turn to the cis world for comments. You will, however, gleefully publish an op-ed about surgery on our privates and how it makes or doesn't make us feel. Overall, what I've seen from you is NOT better, likely worse, for our ongoing fight for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness than scores of other media outlets I used to respect far less than you. Your unrelentingly transphobic, transmisogynistic, cis-sexist perspective is unhelpful at best. There's not one trans related article I've seen (maybe I'm missing something?) I'd point at and applaud you for in the last year. Shame on you for fertilizing shame and ignorance in our world. There's plenty already. Thanks but no thanks.
Well Considered Prints (Ann. Arbor)
Is that photo of Carmen Liu an actual photo, or a digital composite?
mrpotatoheadnot (ny)
i have always hated the word "panties." Can't anyone come up with a better word for the underwear worn by THAT gender(s).
nom de guerre (Kirkwood, MO)
@mrpotatoheadnot The word "underpants" serves any gender.
Chuffy (Brooklyn)
I’m looking at the photos and wondering where exactly is the departure from heteronormative ideas of sexy..? The models appear to be slim boy/girls who are embodying a really “normative” look for what models are supposed to look like. Victoria’s Secret all the way.
nom de guerre (Kirkwood, MO)
Good luck, I can't even find decent boyshorts!
Delicious Wolf (Tacoma)
There can't be a giant market for these garments, which amount to highly specific items for a tiny proportion of the populace. Why so much ink given to this NYT? Will you devote the same 1,000 words to bras for women who've had a mastectomy? Or perhaps, to the Seinfeld inspired "Manziere"? Maybe an article on children's panty and trainer bra sets? The amount of effort and expense given to this article is mind-boggling. I detect a disctinct political point to this unimportant article, not in the facts per se but in the prominence given, seeking to elevate Trans-only matters to national significance. This article fails as both a fashion article, and a human interest story, because neither is particularly interesting, or relevant, to your readership and succeeds only as advertisement. Let the Trans-specific blogs cover Trans-specific advertisements and stick to articles worthy of news.
Freda (San Francisco)
I am all for transgender people's rights, self-fulfillment, and social freedom. From the aesthetic perspective, however, I find the lingerie on the models in this article disorienting. It's neither here or there. Maybe they should adopt a more unique design.
Lisa (Santa Fe, New Mexico)
I’m so happy these options exist. I’m nonbinary and my wife is a transgender woman. We have issues with finding clothing that fits both our styles AND sizes. As more people buy from these companies, the costs will go down, making the items affordable for many more people.
bluesky (Jackson, Wyoming)
I always find the discussion here about transgender and their needs amazing. As if we are the first country in the world to deal with the subject Has anyone ever been to Thailand where transgender are widely accepted, and mostly incredibly beautiful? Perhaps we could learn from them and their fashions, instead of reinventing the wheel.
Laurabat (Brookline, MA)
Two thumbs up for TomboyX. Their garments are comfortable and high quality and come in a large range of sizes.
Jordan Jackson (California)
Victoria's Secret is stuck in the past, in this and many other ways. Their models who are all exact same size and shape, their rediculous vanity sizing, their pricing... I no longer shop there and I don't know anyone else who does. We've all moved on.
mrpotatoheadnot (ny)
@Jordan Jackson good. but do you say 'panties'? If you do, you have not moved on. Please, find a better word. It's like a grown man saying "i have to find better undies." Absurd! Panties, as a word, demeans the women who wear 'them.'