Believing Him: For Trump, Sticking With Men Like Stephen Moore Is Nothing New

Apr 26, 2019 · 235 comments
Doug (Cincinnati)
People (both men and women) who just can't get it right tend to stick together. The best thing to do is just ignore their hurtful ideas and help others become more aware of the dangers of such behavior.
Appu Nair (California)
Many ordinary college graduates feel privately and share with others carefully what Stephen Moore has publicly said. Good for him. None of this is against women but facts won’t matter to the left. Federal Reserve is all about the monitory policy. And it should support the President. Moore can help. Look at our economy:  Exports from the US are increasing.  Dollar is remaining strong (still the exports are increasing).  US manufacturing is increasing.  Imports are decreasing. (The insistence of minding American interests is working.)  Steel and coal are becoming healthier.  Effects of tax cuts are enduring.  Spending by industry increasing.  US strengths in the energy sector continues.  Unemployment is remains at an all-time low.  Government handouts are decreasing. No free tuition in the horizon.  College graduates are finding jobs- good jobs.  The economy has been an equal opportunity enterprise but has not been based on identity politics- good economy improves the lot of everyone who wants to work and participate in the American dream.  Business confidence has quadrupled. There is a sense that the policies will continue at least for the next six years and most likely for another eight.  Intrusive and choking regulations are easing or in some cases, gone out altogether in many cases. Leadership involves talking the talk and walking the walk with a singular mission. Moore will help to continue to Make America Great!
M.i. Estner (Wayland, MA)
Being despicable ought not be a qualification but for Trump that seems to be the most important qualification. And Moore is definitely despicable. Moore is apparently grossly unqualified as an economist. Paul Krugman has repeatedly said that Moore is always wrong. That's good enough for me. Let's see whether we can find four courageous GOP Senators to vote against his confirmation. I'm not hopeful.
Hopeful (Florida)
Sexual misconduct, harassment, assault and sexism are all bundled together under Mr. Trump's "troubled history". I Just can't think of another example of outright hatred toward a specific group of people that would be labeled "troubled history". I see a tendency to minimize sexism but for instance, not racism or antisemitism . Why is that?
Blue (St Petersburg FL)
@Hopeful, We stated But a majority of white women voted for him. So it’s a very peculiar relationship.
Molly ONeal (Washington, DC)
Moore is not qualified to be on the Federal Reserve board. His lack of serious credentials as an economist was already a huge insult to a critically important institution. It is sad and telling that his manifest unsuitability on professional terms is not by itself enough to ensure he'd not be confirmed. Moving the argument onto his personal unsuitability does not, unfortunately, protect the Fed from the appointment of other political hacks and pundits.
Ann (California)
Isn't Trump's declaration to nominate Stephen Moore just another smokescreen; like shining a magnifying glass an an ant hill to stir up the ants? His policies are hurting the country shorting the government of needed revenue. We need to expose this more: the tax break for dozens of U.S. top corporations -- now paying "0" in taxes and/or that get money back. Look at Amazon--almost doubled its U.S. profits from $5.6 billion to $11.2 billion between 2017 and 2018. Amazon reported a $129 million 2018 federal income tax but the tax rebate—made its tax rate -1%. http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/
marriea (Chicago, Ill)
@Ann Good point. I have always thought Trump's purpose is to try to undermine, destroy our country and it's economy for some ungodly reason. I always think back to that quip during the debates when he said to the effects, he would have no problem with the US filing for bankruptcy if we couldn't pay our bills. I still wonder why he made that statement. And I think Congress should subpoena his companies' bank records and tax records, if not his personal ones
Jack Toner (Oakland, CA)
Moore's nomination may end up scuttled by his egregious sexism and that's good I guess but will Trump then nominate someone who's any better? It would be far better that Moore get rejected because he's an ignoramus who has literally never been right about any economic issue in his life. Not to mention that he's a total hack who has dome a 180 on interest rates solely because we now have a Republican president. Of course said president has executed the same 180 and the chances that four Republican senators would place country above party is effectively zero. Solution: never vote for any Republican for any office. What about the governor of Maryland you cry. Well we could distinguish between state level and federal Republicans I suppose but has Hogan seriously objected to any of Trump's atrocities? Is he not providing cover for a national Republican party which is actually tending towards fascism?
Patricia (Pasadena)
He's succeeding where many feminist leaders have failed when it comes to bringing women together to fight the patriarchal system and the brand of toxic masculinity that he's selling.
Richard Bradley (UK)
And yet Kavanagh sits there poised to wreak his vengeance. As may Moore. All products of an outdated American dream enabled by the worst fossil ever elected, albeit with Russian backing. Hard not to conclude this must be the true face of America.
gf (ny)
Character and expertise matter. Why would the president nominate someone to the Federal Reserve who can't handle his own personal fiances or meet his personal obligations? And one who is admittedly not qualified professionally? All this in addition to his snarky remarks about women. Lord help us.
Folksy (Wisconsin)
@gf A President who has gone bankrupt 5 times, who cheated on his wife several times, who is ignorant of finance, foreign affairs, national security, and everything else about governing a democratic nation, and has no curiosity to learn anything?
RJB (A blue islamd in the red midwest)
I can't stand to even listen to Stephen Moore for more than a minute. He's an arrogant, unapologetic right-wing tool not worthy of consideration even for a job wiping down the dining counter at a Woolworth's in the imaginary, gloriously revived past of Trump's creepy and impossible MAGA world. Are you listening, Bill Maher? No more Stephen Moores or Grover Norquists on your panel, please. You think you're being fair by accommodating these people, but their side doesn't play by the rules and you're only enabling them.
joyce (santa fe)
Trump wants no one around him who is not his type, someone who he can order around and they will obey, someone who has a thick skin and will not flinch at Trumps many forays into racist remarks, sexist remarks, episodes with women that are suspect one way or the other, episodes of obstruction of justice, choices to avoid the demands of congress, times when Trump acts like a dictator and so on. Trumps choices will take anything Trump dishes out and smile while they obey him. He says jump and they say, how high?. There should be no surprises here because the independent thinkers have all left or have been fired, so those left are reliably subserviant. Trump and his servile associates all need to go in a thorough housecleaning of this shabby administration made up of people who care more about their jobs then they do about democracy. They are not worthy of their jobs, they are derelict in their duty to the nation, they are cowardly and servile and inactive. Impeach Trump and vote out the rest. Get new blood that understands the job description and appreciates the value of a democratic society. Once you have lost that moral compass you have lost a sense of values that is beyond price. We sometimes have no idea what we have until we have lost it. Until it is too late. Until we have let it slip away. This was once a great country. Remember that.
HNG (.)
"Stephen Moore, President Trump’s preferred choice for the Federal Reserve, has written [various things that liberals don't like]." None of those things have anything to do with Moore's qualifications to serve on the Federal Reserve Board, so I agree with Larry Kudlow, who says: "I don’t think it’s germane". And Moore's writings are clearly satirical in whole or in part. Evidently, Kudlow can see that too: "I think he was making a spoof." As for Moore's economics arguments, they should be *rebutted*, not ridiculed. "[Trump] stuck with Roy S. Moore ..." That's irrelevant too. The whole article is an exercise in editorializing. Shame on the Times.
Grumpy Dog (Shee-cah-go)
@HNG And I assume you would have felt the same about Obama if he did any of this.
DO5 (Minneapolis)
Trump and loyalty are two words rarely seen in a rational sentence. He loves the focus on him and whatever it is he is doing. Without outrageous choices, no press. He will stand by his choice, watch them twist in the wind until he’s wrung enough out of that corpse, then let on of his minions cut them down. Everything he does is to place the focus on the unimportant “what has Trump done now” instead of complete lack of substance.
Gadea (France)
a criminal feel only at ease with other criminals.
Blue (St Petersburg FL)
There’s no political downside for Trump supporting Moore His fans love him no matter what including a majority of white women.
NYer (NYC)
Trump "stands by his men" (and they're almost always men) until he's better served by stabbing them in the back! Ask Tillerson, Sessions, Cohen, etc, etc
vincentgaglione (NYC)
"....certain assumptions about the president’s behavior and views are by now well-known to voters, who will continue to support him because of his record on judicial nominations, border security and a roaring economy." The great American dream...sell your soul for principle!!! LOL
Louis A. Carliner (Lecanto, FL)
A president should be judged by the “cabinet he keeps” and by this metrics, DT certainly fails big!
Guido Malsh (Cincinnati)
The last three paragraphs of this article speak volumes about Republican complacency and complicity in aiding and abetting this amoral behavior as well as their values such as greed, corruption and hypocrisy. Conspicuously absent is VP Pence who shares the above characteristics while pledging unconditional loyalty to his Philanderer In Chief. Vote.
Benjo (Florida)
He is the one Trump appointee the GOP might not approve. The Fed is too important to trust to such a buffoon. Nobody wants their money messed with.
Kay Johnson (Colorado)
Moore’s whining about women’s wages was pathetic. That Trump needs women as villains or tokens is pathetic. There are excellent men and women out there ready to serve the American public. Let’s clear the deadwood out starting with a clueless executive in love with mediocrity.
pkay (nyc)
How much more disgust can we feel for Trump and his repugnant choices in the fetid swamp of people surrounding and supporting him. And how much more disgust for the immoral, indecent country we are becoming with this pit bull of a cretin in the White House. We keep sinking lower and lower now till we will arrive at the bottom, if we're not already there. God bless the America I once knew - it is a memory now. What an outrage to our history and the struggle so many of us made for justice, equality and the honor of our forefathers.
Wayne (Brooklyn, New York)
I was shocked to learn that Mr. Moore is an economist. After listening to him as a pundit he has lost all credibility. If he were a medical doctor he would have been a quack.
Erik Strom (Denver)
I condemn anyone who trucks in denigration of anyone, be the recipients women, minorities, queer in any way, or any other of the host of oppressed people nowadays. It's unacceptable. If his past neanderthal comments about women stir up enough indignation to quash Mr. Moore's nomination to the Federal Reserve Board, then a good deed has been done. But I wonder: Why did it come to this? Mr. Moore is obviously, demonstrably incompetent, especially for a job on the Fed, and has been quite obviously so for many years. His record speaks for itself. When commentators such as Dr. Krugman write that Mr. Moore has never been right about anything, they're not being hyperbolic. He really never has been right about *anything*. Yet most Senate Republicans have seemed inclined to confirm him, at least until the latest dirt got dug up. We'll see now. Again, getting rid of Mr. Moore is a boon, by whatever means. He would be a risible addition to the Fed, planted only to cheerlead for President Trump's whims. But why was his incompetence not enough?
Peter (New York)
True Trump stands by his man... as long as things are going his way. But when then things start to turn out wrong, Trump is quick to dump and trash them. Jeff Sessions and Dan McGahn are examples.
Jack Toner (Oakland, CA)
@Peter The deal with McGahn is interesting. He's been called to testify before Congress. Trump is trying to keep him from doing so. But he's now a private citizen. What possible legal issue would he face other than not disclosing classified information? Would even Trump dare to classify everything that's merely embarrassing? Aren't Trump's attacks on him likely to backfire by making him angry at Trump and determined to not become a scapegoat? But he is a card-carrying member of the Conservative Movement which has thrown in with Trump completely. Cohen was never a member. There was a lot of anger at Chief Justice Roberts for not going along with a totally ridiculous anti-Obamacare lawsuit but the other four right-wing justices had no problem acting as toadies.
JFR (Yardley)
A's hire A's. B's hire C's. Trump hires sycophants Moore, Manafort, and Flynn.
Jack Noon (Nova Scotia)
Trump sticks with anyone as long as he or she bows, scrapes and kisses his ring. Pitiful.
Alan Kaplan (Morristown, NJ)
Trump always choses and incompetent. Sexism and misogyny are bonuses for him.
Joe B. (Center City)
Moore is a laughing stock. Or as Commander Chaos sez “only the best people!”
jas2200 (Carlsbad, CA)
In addition to his sordid personal history, Moore is a right-wing clown who is the number one shill for the Republican voo-doo economics. Like the 999 man, he has no qualifications for the Fed. If Republican Senators don't vote against his confirmation, it shows how little they care about the country.
susan (nyc)
Moore doesn't pay child support for his children and he wears it as "a badge of honor??!!" He is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Wake Up, World (Toronto)
Yes, the fault clearly lies with the office of presidential personnel, who, despite their “extreme vetting,” failed to execute a Google search of Mr. Moore. And if you believe that one, I’ve got a MAGA hat to sell you.
grace thorsen (syosset, ny)
I still find it incredible that anyone seeks logic or consistency in the Trump. The post reporter interviewed by Terri Gross on the Mueller r eport said, "Trump boasted he would talk to Mueller about anything." The reporter goes on to say, "Trump must have re-thought that, upon advice from his lawyers, and did not testify in person." There is no strategy in his public statements other than what he thinks will get applause lines..Can I repeat that - there is no strategy, no attempt at consistency or thought, in his public statements..As many manlly men he has defended, equally as many manly men has he evicerated, in public, all the time..There is no thought, no consistency - it is not a requirement for Trump statements..When will you guys get it, and stop trying to m ake him make sense.. It will never happen. He has two loves, Ivanka and the mighty dollar. or ruble, or sheckle, or peso, whatever..that is as far as it goes..The rest is lies lies lies.Not worth the dime you put in a parking meter..
northlander (michigan)
safer if you can see his hands.
David Gerstein (East Hampton)
This is a preposterous article that promotes a preposterous hypothesis. Trump selects frauds and stays with them because he is a fraud and wants fellow fraudsters installed in positions to support him. That is all.
Jack Toner (Oakland, CA)
@David Gerstein Nothing in what you say is incompatible with what the article says except when you say "that is all"; why can't Trump have two motivations which reinforce each other?
Nereid (Somewhere out there)
In other words, Trump's a loyal friend. Especially to kindred spirits who are morally bankrupt, intellectually vacant, incompetent sycophants. They join his team. He props them up, defends them, sticks with them until, until he doesn't.
Hugh MassengillI (Eugene Oregon)
This is an astoundingly corrupt time and administration. I thought living through the Nixon times set the record. After all, Nixon was a traitor who got South Vietnam to walk away from the peace table, so Nixon could gain office, and thousands of American troops died before peace was available again. But no, Trump and his team are both corrupt and incompetent... We are well on our way to becoming Putin's Russia, where there is a pretend rule of law. Hugh Massengill, Eugene Oregon
Alan (Boston)
Fun thing to do - read the Wikipedia entry about Mr. Moore. It’s good for laughs about how this non-economist has made such a fool of himself. And then sobering to think that he could make fools of America.
Robert Stewart (Chantilly, Virginia)
Moore has as much right to called an economist as does my oldest grandson, who is a freshman in college taking his first class in economics. Moore is of the same ilk as Trump, i.e., incompetent and too dense realize it.
Dorothy Wiese (San Antonio Tx)
@Robert Stewart Your grandson is probably well qualified compared to Moore.
Jack Toner (Oakland, CA)
our grandson has a better right to the title than Moore since he probably hasn't been wrong nearly as often as Moore.
Danny (Minnesota)
Trump won’t appoint Moore. He’s too useful as a laser pointer, driving everybody wild in different ways like a kitty chasing a spot of light. It’s fun for him.
Susan (Paris)
“Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior White House adviser, has talked about her own experience growing up, noting that her father treated her as an equal to her two brothers. ‘There was no difference,’ she has said.” Oh really? Funny but I don’t recall any appearances on talk shows where father Donald bragged about Don Jr. and Eric’s physical attributes to radio shock jocks and others, or appeared in numerous creepy teenage photos with them. Donald Trump will always place value on women based primarily on their looks and judging from his past/present statements Stephen Moore is from the same school.
Tony (New York City)
@Susan Your so right. This entire family lives on there own planet with the belief that they can destroy Earth and America is particular .Trump needs to get a real good mirror and take a hard look at himself, thinking people remember the last frame in the movie Portrait of Dorian Grey you see the picture it is a version of the devil. A man who is Hideous whose life has been consumed by the devil. Dictators will never survive in America no matter what the right wing think.
RT (NYC)
@DR Touché
Bobbogram (Chicago)
Trump keeps untalented, unethical people around him so that he looks better by comparison, keeping the flies off himself. He’s like so many vain shallow men, fearing obscurity or worse. Well he’ll have left his mark on history, just a large brown indelible stain for all time.
MinisterOfTruth (Riverton, NJ 080..)
. Trump delights in sabotage & destruction, so many of his picks amount to monkey wrenches thrown into the gears.
Kathy (SF)
It's amazing what rich white men can get away with, at least from people with NO STANDARDS. Miller is not the bottom of the barrel; he is what grows beneath it.
joyce (santa fe)
That is known as projection.
Andrea P. (NYC)
Birds of a feather.
Raz (Montana)
There is nothing in our constitution or laws that states outright or implies that one has the right to go through life unoffended. The idea of "political correctness" is nothing more than an attempt by self-centered people to impose their views on everyone else. I read the Times article of 4/23 that had the excerpts from Moore's writing and, if you're honest with yourself, there is LOGIC in what he is saying. The fact that you don't like the truth in what he is saying doesn't make him a bad person.
Tony (New York City)
@Raz No he is not a bad person just a misguided one who will one day have to explain transgressions to the almighty. We need to remember the most religious people in this country believe and support Trump for all of his sexual, criminal transgressions and those of his minions. After all conservative judges are most important to them. Character is irrelevant just as long as con man and his minions get them into judgeships . Sleeping with Russia doesn’t brother them at all. Political Murderers are just fine, Saudis responsible for 9/11 ok as long as money goes into the presidents bank accounts to aid in all cover ups. Immigration the audacity of bringing brown people in to do jobs that corporate America refuses to pay market salaries to Americans. Corporate America only believes in paying themselves jacked up salaries for there pretend brilliance . Mr Moore who couldn’t get in a real administration because he just isn’t very smart but full of hate for brown people. As a white man he is an immigrant unless his family are native Americans which I don’t believe is the case. The Minions of Trump Will be having an interesting conversation with St. Peter at the pearly gates their day will come.
Jack Toner (Oakland, CA)
@Raz Ah yes the logic of male piggery: women exist to titillate men. So ladies, if you've got what it takes put on that halter top; otherwise make yourselves scarce. That's just logic!
Kay Johnson (Colorado)
Crazy has “a logic” too for crying out loud. Now it’s “PC” to vet an adult applicant for a government position and expect some sort of professional behavior- says who? In practice the Trump deal is rewarding mediocrity.
LB (Del Mar, CA)
As the old saying goes: "A thief thinks everyone steals." Can anyone who has studied Trump's life be at all surprised? Just another example of why Trump lacks the character to be Dog Catcher, let alone POTUS. Like all sociopaths and narcissists, the only "law" that Trump believes in is whatever he can get away with and that anyone who believes in any principles, laws, ethics or morality other then their own personal ego and whims are wimps and losers.
Joe Rock bottom (California)
it's not just that Moore has been proven utterly incompetent at anything related to economics (after all, the vast majority of republicans have no understanding of economics (and their ignorant leader is Paul Ryan)). The real danger of an incompetent like him on the Fed is that then the rest of the world will begin to see the Fed as a non-serious actor packed with incompetent, sycophantic Trump people. Then the entire economic system is just primed to collapse. Every other country's central bank looks to the Fed as the lead in global economics. If that goes away, the US becomes just another bumpkin country begging to be noticed, but will be ignored due to it's non-serious nature.
Texexnv (MInden, NV)
Help Wanted Ad: United States Federal Reserve Board Qualifications: White male preferred; Willing to blindly follow instructions - demonstrated experience essential; Education or experience in complex fiscal matters - none; Personal integrity - none; Ability to discern objectively fiscal policy which benefits all U.S. citizens - none; Ability to grovel and misrepresent facts - essential. Apply to Jared Kushner, White House, Washington D.C.
Epicurus (Boston)
Moore is an conman like Trump. He's a tool for the Koch brothers whose only purpose is to pretend to be an economist in order to lend credence to the nonsense that is trickle down economics.
Gloria Ross (St. Louis)
Seems like Trump gave up on Herman Cain pretty quickly. He doesn't stand by all of his incredibly unqualified picks.
Paulie (Earth Unfortunately The USA Portion)
If Moore fell behind in his alimony and child support payments why wasn’t he jailed? That’s what would happen to us mere mortals.
Jan (MD)
Moore is just bad news all around. Remember Trump, FAILED businessman, wants to nominate him. What is wrong with the Republican Party? This would be a huge mistake for the Fed. You want to see the Country fail, Republicans? Just keep chipping away at the checks and balances. Given the recklessness of Trump, FAILED businessman and his cronies, We are heading for a failure (recession) worse than 2008. And I think it will happen in 2020.
Kent Morlan (Tulsa)
Trump seems to have a talent for picking the worst of the worst to staff his administration. It will take a long time for our country to recover.
joyce (santa fe)
Trumps picks are a deliberate choice and it is his way of sabotaging the departments of the government by picking incompetent or deliberately destructive heads. He wants to be king and to have no complications that could interfere with what he wants at any time.What he wants is a Putin-like country with oligarchies and money floating around at the top and serfs at the bottom with no rights, no independence and no money to speak of. Also no health care no good schooling, and if calamity arrives, you are on your own unless you are white and wealthy. Trump has no feeling for poor people with problems, to him they are just waste in the system. Let them cope; meanwhile they hang onto Trumps every breath and lie, believing, or just caught up with the show.8i .
Upstart Startup (Occidental California)
Pictures tell a thousand words. Look at the enclosed photograph. Trump is walking down a steep ramp to Air Force One along side the First Lady. Is he helping her? No! He is holding on to the hand rail with one hand and the other is is keeping his tie from blowing in the wind. So much for the care and comfort of women, even his wife.
Frankie (UK)
Although Don the Con seems to think that he is the Dictator/Liar in Chief that can get away with anything, I don't think that the majority of US citizens agree with him. If it wasn't apparent in 2016 I think things are becoming very clear now. This bully, I believe, is running out of road. He does not represent the vast majority of Americans. His lies and deceit will be fully exposed and when American citizens eventually get to see his tax returns it will confirm him to be the con man that many have always believed him to be. Why would someone who has nothing to hide be so intent on hiding things from the American people who he has vowed to serve? It won't be his racism, bullying, sexism, misogyny, lying or deceit etc. that will bring him down - history will bring him down because the Democrats will follow the money. It will be fitting that he will suffer the same fate as the mobster Al Capone - none of us can avoid death and taxes. The GOP will rue the day that they got into bed with Trump.
ladybee (Spartanburg, SC)
@Frankie You're correct- if he has nothing to hide then why not release tax returns? I am afraid that as long as the stock market is going strong he will be re-elected. Although the Trump supporters that i know don't even have investments in the market. I love the way the market is going but definitely will not vote for TRUMP! Hopefully others will see that the market is the result of Obama's administration.
Rocky L. R. (NY)
Trump "sticks" with people only as long as he's getting something out of them.
merchantofchaos (tampa)
Piggish, old white man, misogyny should not be tolerated. Close the door and keep it locked on Moore. If it wasn't Trumpworld, Moore's qualifications alone would not allow him to be considered. Where's those soundbites of Commrade Trump stating he only hires the best people?
True Observer (USA)
Trump picks unqualified people. That's why the economy is humming along.
Philip Cafaro (Fort Collins Colorado)
If Democrats turn the next presidential election into a war between the sexes, I will sit it out This is a seat on the Federal Reserve board. If you can’t talk about economic policy in the context of this kind of nomination, then I guess nothing can get you to focus on economics
kkseattle (Seattle)
@Philip Cafaro There are many, many articles out there discussing Moore’s spectacular unfitness for this position, which he himself admits he is not qualified to hold. The fact that he is also a terrible person is, I concur, of secondary importance.
fast/furious (Washington, DC)
@Philip Cafaro A man who refuses to support his children, and brags about it, is not really a man.
Chicago Guy (Chicago, Il)
Trump stand behind his people, until such time as they can no longer commit crimes for him, then he pushes them into an oncoming bus. Thanks to the complete ineffectiveness of our checks and balances, he's now offering pre-approved pardons for anyone he hires.
Jay Lincoln (NYC)
I think Trump treats people as individuals. For example, he hired and had Barbara Res as a construction manager, the first woman to oversee a Manhattan skyscraper. She was. Trump Organization Vice President. She was a competent engineer so he treated her as such. But he has also dealt with say a lot of beauty queens. If you sell your looks for your job and are half naked most of the time and are flirty. Then he will treat you corresponding as well. I don’t really see a problem with that.
kkseattle (Seattle)
@Jay Lincoln So why is he appointing someone who admits he is not an expert on monetary policy to the Fed?
Quandry (LI,NY)
Can't believe that this buffoon, who didn't his timely pay his taxes, and his matrimonial obligations. Further, Moore, who was criticized by Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz for his inability as an "economist", remains Trumps nominee for the Fed. So much for Trump's bubbling swamp, and his insufficient cadre of alleged professionals, that he continues to nominate for some of the most important offices in the land.
James Wilson (Northampton, Massachusetts)
Charlottesville + Stephen Moore + Herman Cain + Tiger Woods + Robert E. Lee = ? Clearly core values are being expressed.
Javaforce (California)
Maybe Trump thinks nominating creeps like Stephen Moore makes him look better. I guess as long as people take an oath to Trump instead of the Constitution they are Ok with Trump.
Darrell (CT)
Just a viewing or two of Mr. Moore on cable television makes it obvious this man is a train wreck bent on carrying water for Trump the whole way. It's sad Donald enlists people like this to help run the country but it's no longer a surprise at this point.
cheryl (yorktown)
I am far more disturbed by Mr Moore's economic belief system and the potential for him to cause serious problems via influence at the FED, than by his personal misogyny. But any reason to keep him out is for the good.
James (St. Paul, MN.)
1. If Donald Trump picked more qualified and capable individuals to staff critical government roles, it might be a bit easier to respect his willingness to stick behind each of them. 2. Nevertheless----In the end, Donald Trump only sticks behind those who will benefit Donald Trump. It has absolutely nothing to do with what most thinking people consider "loyalty." In this single example of Trump behavior, we learn that he has no intelligence, discernment, judgement, or loyalty of any sort.
Gofertravel (Bay Area)
More concerning then Donald Trump and clan of cads and cons is the females of the nation who "Stand by their man." Decades long of Trump being Trump is largely known and documented. It's the heads in sand following that to me is more alarming and mystifying. Don the Con while in the White House and the leader of the Free world is one obstacle. The cult followers who brush off his indiscretions are neighbors and hopefully NOT family members.
Derek Martin (Pittsburgh, PA)
I've read quite a bit from those who oppose his appointment about why Stephen Moore is unqualified to serve on the Fed board. All I've seen to explain why Trump wants to nominate Moore for the post is that Moore wrote an article where he criticized the central bank and Trump like it?! Was there no other vetting? Have I missed other pertinent details, or is that the sum total of why Trump believes Moore to be the right candidate? If it is, in addition to being both apparently corrupt and obviously incompetent, we may also have the laziest excuse for a president ever in our country's history.
Dan (Sandy, Ut)
@Derek Martin Was there no other vetting? No. All that is needed to qualify for a job in the Trump regime is loyalty to Trump, like-minded behavior toward women and no knowledge of the job requirements.
MrsWhit (MN)
Trump's reflex is to defend himself, not others. If those around him are accused of behaviors he is also guilty of, he will defend his OWN right to act that way, which may appear to be a defense of one of "his guys." The minute, nay, second that anyone else becomes a minor inconvenience, he will jettison them.
JLC (Seattle)
Of course it's not germane (to quote Kudlow) to his fellow white men, none of whom have ever had to suffer through and live with so-called leaders who think they are second-class citizens. It is germane when someone has a position of power and can hire, or not hire, people who look like you. It is germane when the Fed Chairman is demeaning and dismissive of half the population and is unapologetic about it. Ironically though, as a woman who invests and uses money, I am more concerned with how his policies will affect the economy. He has not allayed those concerns either. Why would we hire a pundit for this position as opposed to a hardcore economist? All of this stinks. There are hundreds of people who would make a better candidate for this position on almost any level you can think of. And that applies to almost any position Trump is filling.
Ash. (WA)
I’ve gone back into news and interview archives and read or heard some of the comments and statements made by Mr Moore over last two decades. Even if one ignores his mostly disastrous pronouncements about economics, reflecting his incompetent grasp on it, the rest is nearly as worrisome as a reflection of him as a human being! Even if I wasn’t a female, I’ll be afraid to be alone with this man. His deep seated disregard and misogyny borders on criminal. Or just... Watch him during committee hearings especially when confronted by a female Congresswoman. His expressions are enough to raise your hackles!
Carlton (Brooklyn, N.Y.)
I am not surprised that the guy heard on the Access Hollywood tape sees nothing wrong with the behavior of Moore , Cain or anyone for that matter on issues involving mistreatment of women.
Elizabeth (Roslyn, NY)
Trump does not care about 'good character'. The question he asks is 'What can you do for me?' And of course a man who thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and has never once thought he did anything wrong, will look upon others - men who he can identify with. The sleazy flock together in Trump's world. What I used to find amazing and now just shake my head at is how the GOP Congress now fauns over every Trump 'pick'. These are often people who they never would have given serious consideration to under any other circumstance but Trump says 'jump' and they ask 'how high'. They confirm people who can't even answer basic questions and they are all cool with that.
Piece man (South Salem)
Similar people flock together. Unfortunately for America 63 million Americans flock towards the Donald and Company. Ironic and sad that a lot of them are broke and hurting and they think a rich, entitled narcissist who probably pays no taxes due to real estate depreciation, is going to save them. That's America folks.
Jack Toner (Oakland, CA)
@Piece man We'll see if Trump can actually get that many votes next year. I assume that that's his total from 2016. Remember that his approval rating immediately fell of from the 46% who voted for him and has been more like 40% during his entire time in office
Max Green (Teslaville)
Stand by them, until he doesn’t.
Sam Kanter (NYC)
Trump nominates the lowest of the low to every position, so his abhorrent behavior and incompetence doesn't stand out. He is hostile towards anyone with any moral center, ethics, or character.
Bill White (Ithaca)
The real problem with Moore is not that he is a misogynist, which is certainly is, it's that it is utter incompetent as an economist – someone who, instead of letting the data drive is thinking, manufactures data to fit is thinking. The Fed is too important to the nation's economy to appoint incompetent ideologues to the Fed board of governors.
Ricky (Texas)
if anyone was to ask trump and any those he picks for important positions, ' a penny for there thoughts" we would all eventually be rich. trump seems to find the most unqualified people to place in said positions, but then he is so over his head, so what would we expect.
Joe Rock bottom (California)
@Ricky "...we would all eventually be rich...." How would we be rich considering he and his sycophants don't have any "thoughts" as normally understood by humans?
Joe Rock bottom (California)
@Ricky " ...trump seems to find the most unqualified people..." This is actually following the decades-long Repub playbook - find either the most stupid person, or the person most rabidly opposed to the mission of an agency, and put them in charge with the fervent hope their incompetence will destroy the agency. Then the Repubs point to the incompetence and say "See, this agency is incompetent and worthless so we should just get rid of it." Just another datapoint in the long Repub quest to totally destroy the US Government.
Karn Griffen (Riverside, CA)
Men and women; once they cross Trump (in his eyes) they all end up under the bus. For Trump loyalty only works one way.
Boregard (NYC)
@Karn Griffen Because he doesn't comprehend what loyalty means, and how it should work. What he seeks is sycophancy. Big diff. Sycophancy is a one way street. Always.
Skip (Seattle)
Regardless of Moore's statements, or his partisan politics he is simply not qualified to be a Federal Reserve Board member.
Joe Rock bottom (California)
@Skip ..."Moore's statements, or his partisan politics ..." Actually, for Repubs, those are his prime qualifications. Only those to inept to function in the real world need apply.
Thollian (BC)
Trump’s support for men like Moore is not only in keeping with his character, but rational strategically. His primary constituency has always been angry white guys who are reflexively anti-intellectual and anti-liberal. So if NYT is against his pick for team or policy, they’re for it. This has been the most consistent thing for Trump. He has rarely been under 40% in the polls since the start of this whole drama, despite everything, and he’s within striking distance of reelection now. There is no reason for him to change.
Gregory J. (Houston)
@Thollian This is intriguing analysis, but .... (Trump only requires the first four letters): to paraphrase Falstaff he not only expels nonstop oversimplication himself, but inspires it in others
Joe Rock bottom (California)
@Thollian ..."keeping with his character,..." "keeping with his lack of character." Fixed that...
HRW (Boston, MA)
Any reasonable person who has seen Stephen Moore on CNBC, CNN or Bill Maher's talk show knows that Moore is not a serious economist. He always laughing and cackling. How is this guy considered an authority about anything? How does he gets any air time? How did he work for the Wall Street Journal? His economic predictions have never been right. My impression of Moore has always been (and please print this) that he is some kind of Republican BOOB. Trump's kind of appointee.
Rocky L. R. (NY)
@HRW Moore went to George Mason, where two faculty members won Nobels in economics. In Trump's world, that means Moore must be a REAL expert.
kkseattle (Seattle)
@HRW Stephen Moore, at the Steamboat Institute on 8/26/16 (available on C-Span): “Well, you know, I’m not an expert on monetary policy.” Mic drop.
Peter (Canada)
There are no allegations being made about Moore that can be debated or denied by male supremacists. Everything in the press about Moore is material he printed and published or said on camera, often more than once. It is true that Trump recognizes the odor of someone who argues two or three sides of the same issue. It is called the odor of someone who is compromised intellectually and ethically. Trump will support and defend those who smell of this whether they are men or women. He defends all the morally compromised equally, hence his support for Huckleberry Spin and Kellyan Conway and even his own daughter. Otherwise, women are here merely for Trump's entertainment, gratification and torment.
JANET MICHAEL (Silver Spring)
The Federal Reserve has a respected reputation as a serious deliberative body.A woman, Janet Yellin, was recently the head of the Fed.The high regard for the Fed is crucial for our monetary policy.The Federal Reserve is not a place for Trump’s bad boy nominees.All Republican Senators know better than to degrade this institution by approving a character as unsuitable as Stephen Moore.
Doug Lowenthal (Nevada)
@JANET MICHAEL Has McConnell rejected any of Trump’s nominees?
Bladefan (Flyover Country)
@JANET MICHAEL What Cloud-Cuckoo Land do you inhabit, to say that "All Republican Senators know better than to degrade this institution by approving a character as unsuitable as Stephen Moore?" We will be lucky if there are four GOP Senators with the perception and the spine to stand against this latest awful Trump appointment.
JANET MICHAEL (Silver Spring)
@Bladefan-I agree with you-I said they know better not that they would do the right thing-they have a perfect record of hypocrisy-voting Trump instead of conscience.
justsaying (Midwest USA)
For Moore and many of this president's other appointees, the issue isn't qualifications or character, of course - it's really whether they can be counted on to carry water for wealthy GOP backers and those in Congress and the White House pushing their agenda. The Heritage Foundation and Moore's promoters are very likely aware of his "shortcomings", which for them are actually assets. Less integrity and policy smarts = a reliable "yes man". Heaven forbid they shouldn't be able to control the Fed, too.
Bill White (Ithaca)
@justsaying Incompetence on the Fed board will end up hurting the wealthy as well as the rest of us.
Glenn Thomas (Edison, NJ)
Nothing surprises me anymore. Absolutely nothing!
common sense advocate (CT)
It's no secret that Trump elevates people of the lowest character in our midst to exalted positions - but we needn't gender-assign our disdain: Betsy DeVos and Kirsten Nielsen and Sarah Sanders have each done their own level best to undermine our civil liberties and lower our standards of decency too. The hazards of gender bias are exemplified in Kirsten Gillibrand's clickbait quote: "He cares more about our sons than our daughters" - Trump certainly doesn't like the sons of Democrats who have marched against him and have protested volubly during his administration. Gillibrand needs to remember that there are millions upon millions of good men in our country before she serves as judge and jury, something that she hasn't learned, apparently, since delivering her Franken "verdict."
Padfoot (Portland, OR)
And yet it's Joe Biden who is in the news for his treatment of Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas hearings. This is not to defend Biden's actions at the time, but at least he has some understanding that his actions were inappropriate and reached out to Ms. Hill to try to make some amends. Yes, Biden could have done better in this regard, but contrast that to Trump who attacks the women he has harassed or worse if they dare speak out, even if he pays them off, or Moore who celebrates his misogynistic ways. For people like Trump and Moore, the MeToo movement has been perverted to WhoMe?.
Robert Howard (Tennessee)
Let’s not forget that there was not one shred of hard evidence supporting Anita Hill‘s allegations against Clarence Thomas. The same is true for the allegations recently leveled against justice Cavanaugh. This “me too” movement is based on the crazy notion that women accusers should always be believed. Thank goodness most of us can see through this stuff. Go President Trump.
Doug Lowenthal (Nevada)
@Padfoot Sure, Trump is much worse than Biden. When it counted, Biden was no better than Hatch or Simpson, and we all, not just Hill, paid a heavy price for it.
Joe Rock bottom (California)
@Robert Howard "Let’s not forget that there was not one shred of hard evidence supporting Anita Hill‘s allegations" Not so. There were corroborating witnesses, and others who were ready to testify to the same kind of harassment from Thomas. The Senate Committee refused to allow them to testify knowing it would kill the nomination. Thomas is a serial abuser and every serious person who has looked at the evidence knows that. So, get serious. The fact he is an SC justice is beyond conprehension. Not only is he an abuser, he is utterly incompetent as a judge. Even Scalia admitted that.
DS (Montreal)
I find him abhorent - a complete toady for Trump -- blindly and unhesitantly supporting absolutely any comment, premise or action put forward or made by Trump however ridiculous it might seem -- I mean, he might have a modicum of credibility if he examined any given topic with some degree of objectivity but as it is he is at zero.
Alex Vine (Florida)
Well of course Trump is standing by him. One of the main requirements Trump has for people he hires or appoints is that they be some kind of dishonest sleaze ball. You know, just like Trump himself. I give you Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Michael Moore, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, all now convicted criminals. And there's others, but the point is that if you[re not willing to break the law, whether federal or local, Trump doesn't want you. He breaks the law all the time and he expects those of who work for him to do the same.
RLee (Boston)
Quite remarkable that the common threads that hold together the Trump administration are hypocrisy, incompetence, disregard for evidence--and most remarkably, breathtaking arrogance. When Donald Trump says, "I know more about [blank] then [blank]", then you can stop listening. Anyone who even starts a sentence like that should not be heard. Stephen Moore should be seeking a job where he has not already proven his incompetence.
Denise (Northern California)
Toxic masculinity is a trump administration feature and another solid reason to get rid of him - as if his criminal conduct and incompetence were not enough. For reasons passing understanding, people associate trump with a strong economy.
lindap (Ithaca)
Mr. Moore is patently unqualified to hold a position in the Federal Reserve. It has become clear the this president is sticking it to majority of the American people. Emperor? Oligarch? Naughty boy? My list grows much longer, leaving little room for any doubt that Trump is wreaking havoc within our democratic norms. Why would he listen to Nobel prize winning economists who have written just how unqualified Stephen Moore is? Trump would rather stick his fingers in our collective eyes and with apologies to the Three Stooges, say "Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk!"
HRW (Boston, MA)
Stephen Moore a charter member of the Trump brain trust. Only the best and the brightest.
svetik (somewhere, NY)
One can't help wondering what it is the men mentioned in this article are so insecure about as to require them to denigrate one half of the human race. Pathos poorly disguised as dominance.
Steve Griffith (Oakland, CA)
Donald Trump: “Russia, if you’re listening, I’ve selected Steven Moore, who is on the record, saying, “I’m not a big believer in democracy.”
HenryK (DC)
The case Moore shouldn’t be about women, it should be about his complete and utter cluelessness on issues of monetary economics
Steven McCain (New York)
Trump stands by his men? Really on what planet? when Trump has no more use for his men he dumps them like a hot potato. Trump stands by men who allow Trump to run roughshod over them. Unless you dance by Trump's music he throws you out of the band.
glennmr (Planet Earth)
Moore is likely to get confirmed...despite being wrong about the economy numerous times. Trump and his cronies will give Moore a free pass on his misogyny not even caring that he in not qualified for the job. He will just be another sycophant in the GOP's pocket.
Jacob (Massachussetts)
"....but also the latest in a long line of male malefactors for whom Mr. Trump displays a strange affinity." Strange?
George (Fla)
@Jacob Not only strange, But very SSSSSSSICK
PeteH (MelbourneAU)
His view of women? We should be more concerned about his view of economics, which is bizarrely ignorant.
Mahalo (Hawaii)
@PeteH Yeah because half the population doesnt matter?
Igkd (Nyc)
Please wake me up when this whole nightmare is over. So much damage is done to this day. How much more can this evil in the WH do before the average citizen wakes up. Are they waiting till it is too late? Watch less reality shows; less twitter and fake news. Dig deeper to find the truth about this pathological liar. Are so any men really so angry at women who finally are becoming less restricted? I am as old as this President, white, college educated through hard work, and a grandma. This man needs to go before he does more damage to this country for my grandchildren's sake. Friends in Europe are shaking their heads in disbelief as to how many people are still supporting this evil.
Jean (Vermont)
@Igkd Well said, sister! I am in the same category as you are: "as old as this president, white, college educated through hard work, and a grandma." A recent national poll in Germany asked Germans what country as they most afraid of: Answer" "The USA under Trump." I was in Germany 3 months ago when this poll was taken. A German man, your and my age, actually came up to me with tears in his eyes and said "Your country is exactly where we were with the rise of Hitler."
Mikeyz (Boston)
These guys are like every junior high school jerk. "Just kidding" does not get you off the hook. Words matter.
SurlyBird (NYC)
Looking at the GOP's record of attracting/keeping women in their ranks, I'd be surprised if they cared one way or another about Moore's distasteful history with women. Looking at the GOP's record for competence in their ranks...well, you can complete this sentence yourself.
John Adams (CA)
Excusing away domestic abuse by guys like Portman, support for child molesters like Roy Moore, gender inequality and misogyny are all behaviors embraced by the President of the United States. A full-throated misogynist like Moore is admired by Trump. As a self-confessed sexual predator, Trump misses the days when men could do what they want to women without any consequences. It's all part of making America great again. And the Trump base loves it.
Misplaced Modifier (Former United States of America)
Do you see? Trump knows what kind of personality type to target as supply sources (minions) to serve his needs. Moore is already a questionable, smarmy and unethical man. Perfect kinda guy to do Trump’s dirty work. This — along with all of the evidence in plain sight — in a nutshell — demonstrates Trump’s profoundly raging case of sociopathy (add “malignant narcissism” if you like). M.O. People like Trump, use other people up, usually quickly, until he no longer wants/needs them, until they are no longer useful. It’s called narcissistic “supply.” Sociopaths select victims, saturate them with intense energy and attention to create a state of limerence. Once the supply is caught up in the sociopath’s world they start doing immoral, unethical, illicit and illegal things (money, sex, crimes on their behalf etc) on behalf of and for the sociopath. Then, when the victim has nothing more to give or gets caught, the sociopath brutally discards the person and moves on to juggle the next supply sources. Moore is just another supply source in Trump’s criminal enterprise. He’ll be at the top of the dung heap until Trump decides to kick him to the gutter.
Son Of Liberty (nyc)
For Donald Trump, what makes Stephen Moore the quintessential Federal Reserve Board candidate is that he has stated “Capitalism is a lot more important than democracy.” This is the most beautiful statement an authoritarian leader could ever hear from a subordinate. The fact that Stephen Moore does not have a PHD in economics, has been wrong on economic predictions and belittles woman are just additional attributes for Donald Trump and the GOP. For them there has never been a finer Federal Reserve Board candidate and these qualities will be what they will be looking for in future top administrative positions.
Robert (Hamilton, NJ)
Have to agree with Tim from BC. The fact the Moore is a bad character example in his attitudes toward women and personal life is certainly a dis-qualifier, but not the big story. Really just par for the course for Trump. The real issue is that is totally unqualified based on his overtly biased and consistently incorrect analysis of the economy.
Paul (Canada)
I've heard this guy talk on numerous issues. It's not only his views on women that are concerning. It his general capacity as a thinker and the fact that he is a blatant political hack that disqualify him from the fed.
William LeGro (Oregon)
Moore seems like a pretty slimy character indeed, reason enough not to have him on the Fed. But an equally important reason is that he's totally unqualified, like most Trump appointees are unqualified. As Paul Krugman points out, he's been wrong in every pronouncement he's made about the nation's economy, and has never admitted it. He's not even a real economist, hasn't worked in the Treasury Department, or even a bank, hasn't taught economics. Well, at least he was economic adviser to, umm, Herman Cain. Though he has a Master's in economics, even Wikipedia describes him as a "writer" and "economic commentator." In other words, he shoots off his mouth a lot - about economics and women - and he's always wrong about both. Putting him on the Fed Board of Governors would trivialize the board and, again, make this country a laughing stock.
Mahalo (Hawaii)
@William LeGro Yes. Leading from behind!
Ann (California)
@William LeGro-Unqualified unless you're reading the Putin's Playbook. Trump's incompetence is so well scripted and delivered, I have to believe someone is directing him.
Nature Boy (San Francisco)
If Moore didn't exist Trump would have to invent him from his personal mental library of cartoon characters. For entertainment value Moore is perfect, but for delivering responsible administration of the financial heart beat of America, he ranks dead LAST.
dave fucio (Montclair NJ)
Even if he gets approved, he's one voice among many in the FOMC. Moore will get the respect he deserves.
John Doe (Johnstown)
I’m always a complete gentleman but that last person you’d want to manage your money. Thanks, but no thanks, for your sake.
joe hirsch (new york)
Oh Lord, let this nightmare come to an end. We are in a Twilight Zone episode that doesn’t have an ending. What a complete disgrace that this Frankenstein garners the support of more than half the Senate and Forty percent of the country. Wake me up when it’s over.
John (Hartford)
We'll see if the Republicans in the Senate are so willing to support Moore when all this gets dragged out in the confirmation hearings. He's totally unqualified professionally and has more baggage than United Airlines.
Futbolistaviva (San Francisco, CA)
Has anyone actually listened to Moore over the last 2 decades spouting his nonsensical economic theories on tv and radio? He is a laughingstock. He couldn't manage a lemonade stand in Florida. Actually perhaps he could at Mar-A-Lago.
DW (Philly)
@Futbolistaviva "He couldn't manage a lemonade stand in Florida." Well, perhaps with a lot of (undocumented) help ...
ALB (Maryland)
Trump "sticks with men like Stephen Moore" . . . until he doesn't. When push comes to shove, I'll bet the only people he'll stick with would be his kids and the spouses of his kids. Not even Melania is safe -- except while he's president. As for Moore, the list of his transgressions is so long, and his incompetence so vast, that his nomination to the Fed is just one more tragedy/disgrace in a line of tragedies and disgraces dating back to Trump's inauguration.
Votecaster (MS)
Moore also infamously said that it is a myth that grandparents care about their grandchildren, all they care about is going to the mailbox to get their social security check. Moore wants to limit, if not eliminate entirely, social security. You know, because he has enough money.
Martha Shelley (Portland, OR)
@Votecaster Given the way Moore failed to pay child support, it is clear he doesn't care about his own children, let alone potential grandchildren. Or anyone else but himself.
Steven McCain (New York)
He really stuck by Herman Cain, Cohen Sessions, and Kelly? Are we talking about the same Trump? If anybody thinks Trump has their back when things go south they are delusional. If you do the Lemming Act of following Trump over a cliff he might stand by you.
Shar (Atlanta)
Of course you don't think it's germane, Mr. Kudlow. He's not attacking, denigrating and discriminating against YOU. And YOU are not being forced to pay the salary of someone who gleefully does so.
JWMathews (Sarasota, FL)
You have to wonder how he finds these people. His economics knowledge is apparently faulty and a lot more. Need I go into the female gender comments or about so-called "Fly Over" Territory. I lived for six years outside Cincinnati in Montgomery, OH which is no slum by a long shot.
-APR (Palo Alto, California)
Once more, trump administration demonstrates his gross incompetence. Moore was not vetted properly. Trump is scraping the bottom of the barrel for appointments. This is the age of #MeToo, Moore will not be confirmed. He should withdraw to save face.
Yuri Pelham (Bronx, NY)
@-APR It is the Senate that confirms or denies. I hope you are correct but I would think the Republican Congress will go along as they always do. Now if McConnell should whisper in Trump's ear perhaps Moore will withdraw like that other guy, Herman. Or does Moore have a me too issue?
zula (Brooklyn)
@-APR Oh,he'll be confirmed, like Kavanaugh and the demagogic fatberg''s cabinet secretaries.
Igkd (Nyc)
@-APR He is filling his swamp with people who are incompetent and just plain evil (Kavanaugh, Moore, Bolton, Pompeo, Sanders etc. He caters to those who will make him even more rich at the expense of the average, hard working person. They are losing more and more benefits so this swamp can have their tax breaks. They have no regard toward the rule of law, and trample on the constitution. They use fear, intimidation, hatred toward the "other" and women. They pull the wool over so many citizens eyes. And of course Fox news, fox newspapers are helping them.
Ray Maine (Maine)
another stark reminder of "only the best people" !
Tim Mosk (British Columbia)
Moore is unqualified for the position. That’s what matters here, not a sex war, or alimony, or Kavanaugh, or who serves beer. Think about that - a serious paper with a serious article on a serious matter, and what comes up are views on beer serving. We should focus on the fact that we might appoint a woefully under-qualified person to a board that matters deeply to US commerce. This article only serves to mask that underlying fact by pivoting the appointment to a culture war topic that is already irrational and politicized. The liberal intelligentsia continue to be Trump’s best campaigners.
DR (New England)
@Tim Mosk - Kavanaugh appears to have a drinking problem, he definitely has anger issues. That's not acceptable when it comes to a position that carries so much power and authority. In addition to being unqualified Moore disrespects half the world's population, that's not acceptable.
PB (Northern UT)
Judge a man by the company he keeps and by the calibre of people he hires Of the people Trump has hired since occupying the White House, which list is longer? The list of experienced, competent, intelligent people? Or the list of hacks, crazies, and the "wrongest" (Krugman's word) people for the job ever? Maybe with Trump, it's birds of an irresponsible, deranged feather flock together. Moore has a sordid history of affairs, divorcing his wife, not paying alimony or child support, which got him in trouble with the IRS because Moore took the deductions anyway. When caught, Moore blamed his accountant https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/us/politics/stephen-moore-taxes-trump.html Moore owes $75K in taxes to the IRS and there is a lien on his house due to unpaid taxes, penalties, and interest accumulated since 2014. Moore's views on women and his irresponsible family values aside, his economic beliefs include favoring the gold standard and slashing taxes to stimulate economic growth. Moore inspired Kansas to slash taxes, which proved a miserable failure. Kansas job growth declined to below the national average; education suffered; and infrastructure crumbled due to lack of tax revenue. Moore is a "trickle down" guy, but never mind the IMF noted that trickle down economics is a significant force for rising inequality. Republicans describe Moore as one of their stellar "intellectuals." Given the current intellectual heft of the GOP, this could be true
Ann (California)
@PB-Watch. Just as Kavanaugh's $200,000 debt was magically and mysteriously paid off--Moore, if he's lucky, will net the same.
RT (NYC)
The Federal Reserve Board? Seriously? Stephen Moore is not qualified to be a bank manager.
DR (New England)
@RT - He couldn't pass the background check necessary to become a teller. Neither could Trump.
Paulie (Earth Unfortunately The USA Portion)
Bank manager, he’s not qualified to clean the toilets in a bank.
Michael (Manchester, NH)
Apparently, we are judging the character of these people by the wrong standard. Our standard is that they must be honorable, law-abiding, and dedicated to public service. Their standard is, "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine."
Bob Acker (Los Gatos)
There must be some reason why this non-event is given the top left corner, but I can't imagine what it is. In fact, I can't imagine printing it at all.
Kay Johnson (Colorado)
@Bob Acker We're still taking "the measure of the man" for Trump I think. Not surprising that a crooked man like Trump has people surrounding him with lowest common denominator minds.
ml (cambridge)
If there is one thing Trump knows, it’s self-preservation and never being wrong. Which translates to supporting everyone who has mistreated women (lest he be accused himself), and standing by nominees because he can’t possibly make mistakes in selecting the ‘best people’... that is, until the position is no longer tenable and the nominee is encouraged to withdraw for ‘personal’ reasons.
Maxie (Johnstown NY)
Listen to his interviews on shows like radio shock-jock, Howard Stern in New York if you want to know the real Donald Trump. I lived downstate then - my teenage sons listened to the program and I would overhear it sometimes. Trump was a favorite because he was shocking - shocking in his disdain for women and the awful things he said about his own daughter.
Chris (SW PA)
“He cares more about our sons then our daughters,” Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat of New York who is running for president, said in an interview. Mr Trump doesn't care about anyone. He does not care about "our sons". Gillibrand is too eager to pit men against women. I suspect she hopes the democrats will focus on identity issues so that they lose on the broader issues. I don't believe that New York Democrats are actually against the GOP policies. To me they seem like hidden conservatives with the intent to make the DFL look ridiculous by focusing on divisive issues. Moore is a creep for sure, and Trump as well, but they are not a good example of the typical man. To suppose that it is us (men) against them (women) plays more into Trumps method than just saying Moore is a creep, and Trump as well. Neither Moore or Trump have the capability with respect to expertise and skill to be either on the fed board, or president of the United States. One need not even bring up their misogyny to disqualify them from the jobs they have or seek.
Yuri Pelham (Bronx, NY)
@Chris And what she did to that fine senator from Minnesota, Al Franken was unconscionable.
Bruce (Denver CO)
The poor man is merely following the lead of Trump at least as far as females are concerned. That attitude is a job requirement. Who else would even talk with Trump about a job, much less want or take a job via Trump? The keys here are to block this nomination and to Dump Trump 2020 and those who follow him, starting with Cory "Trump" Gardner here in Colorado.
Al M (Norfolk Va)
This appointment, misogyny aside, as another prime example of the Bannon methodology of deconstructing federal institutions. It must be seen for what it is and rejected because the man is unqualified and his appointment to this position is, like all of Trumps appointments, a clear and present danger to the country.
Susan (Staten Island)
Trump has a penchant for his own kind. Familiarity in its most desirable form. They all protect each other , for their misdeeds are one and the same.
Michael McCann (Saint Paul, MN)
Between Stephen Moore and Larry Kudlow, about the only fact either of them ever got straight was Kudlow's understanding of the price of cocaine when he was an addict. However, that did cost him his job at Goldman.
Adam (Tallahassee)
Neither Fox nor CNN seemed to have had a problem paying Stephen Moore to contribute to their regular programming recently. They certainly aren't in a position to raise any questions about his integrity at this point. If they think they are, then we should be asking why they didn't do their research prior to hiring him.
Casual Observer (Los Angeles)
Trump's refusal to condemn those who have committed sexual harassment is despicable. Moore should clear this up by explaining why he is being misrepresented or by apologizing. the tolerance of bad behavior by people who are too important to sanction for bad behavior is encouraging the bad behaviors. Gillibrand has one issue, misogynous male privilege, and little else to offer the country. She is just cluttering up the field for Democrats who are serious about serving everyone.
Marie (Boston)
What, do you expect crooks and cons to surround themselves with "Boy Scouts" and people of integrity? No, of course not. Honest people can't be trusted. There is a reason "birds of a feather flock together" is a saying. It's because we do know you by the company you keep.
srwdm (Boston)
With Trump's unbelievable level of corruption and bankruptcy of character— We cannot let him control the pressure points of "economy" and "border". He has no credibility as a person, and certainly not as a "president". We cannot just shrug our collective shoulders.
turnip2000 (Seattle)
Okay, we get that Trump is a misogynist (#shocker), but the article never actually explains what his appointee did outside of vague accusations of being indiscreet and not very PC, but examples and evidence.
Lars (Hamburg, Germany)
Seriously? A child support Deadbeat Dad for the Fed? This is the fiscal and personal responsibility expected of a Fed Board member in 2019? The US has really truly descended to Banana Republic stratus in 2 years flat.
See through the veil (Denver)
@Lars Moore is unfit for the job.
Nick (NYC)
Not sure why this is surprising or even newsworthy. The only people who willingly associate with Donald Trump - an obvious and notorious cad - are themselves on the same wavelength.
Joe (NYC)
It tells you a lot about the Heritage foundation that they would employ someone like Moore. I wonder if the rest of the place is filled with cranks like him? Probably so! Seems to me the whole place is the intellectual version of smoke - designed to put false flags out there to prolong and dilute debates. As such, Heritage, like much of conservatism, is a cancer on our country.
Demosthenes (Chicago)
Stephen Moore is a Trump lackey who will follow orders. His lack of experience, knowledge, personal morality and ethics are an added plus to Trump.
Doug Lowenthal (Nevada)
@Demosthenes Moore was a right wing crazy long before Trump. Trump has no understanding of the Fed or anything else government does. He’ll appoint anyone to the Fed Miller or Mulvaney tells him will keep interest rates low to keep his economy going.
C.L.S. (MA)
Well, Trump will grab whomever he can, for the Federal Reserve or whatever fancies him.
DMS (San Diego)
Moore sounds like the perfect reflection of trump's sexist projection. He'll fit right in.
Leigh (Qc)
“He said to me, ‘if you’re ever caught cheating, you deny, deny, deny, and wear them out, and they will believe you eventually because you’ve denied so long,’” No Donald, they don't believe you. It's just that don't want to hear anymore from you. Number one because it's so boring and number two because, well, who has time to listen to yet another lie from such a lowdown lying cheat?
MBH (KY)
Larry Kudlow would find Stephen Moore's attitude towards women a lot more "germane" if he were a woman.
Jung and Easily Freudened (Wisconsin)
Behold the power of white, wealthy, male privilege, which is, according to Republicans, a myth. An African American President, or any President of color, would have been ordered, with these same circumstances, to place his hands in the air and step away from the Oval Office.
Susan (Paris)
I just don’t know how else to say this, but besides being supremely unqualified morally, ethically and intellectually for the job at the Federal Reserve, Stephen Moore seems to be a total creep in every sense of the term. He is the mirror image of Trump, “writ small.”
Peter Henry (Suburban New York)
@Susan And how does that make him any different than, say, Stephen Miller, Jeff Sessions, Javanka, or a host of others ?
Michele Bowman (St. Louis)
@Susan Of course Trump nominates someone to the Federal Reserve Board who is just like him. He has continually surrounded him with incompetent people and people who care nothing for the working people of this country. He said the "working poor should be taxed more." Hopefully, if Trump formally nominates this "person," the Senate will not confirm him. If they do, it is another nail in the coffin in the destruction of this country.
Michele Bowman (St. Louis)
@Peter Henry It doesn't. It just proves my point.
Rick Gage (Mt Dora)
Trump has proven over and over again that he will stick by you as long as he can use you. However, once your usefulness or you sycophancy runs out, he will pretend he hardly knew you, never liked you, will give you a demeaning nickname and will leave a stench on you that you will carry the rest of your life. There are far more people under the Trump bus than are riding on it.
Sarah (Parsons)
@Rick Gage Isn't it amazing how many people had minor coffee duty?
Kelly (New York, NY)
@Rick Gage True. Which makes it scary to consider what he might accomplish if he supported people that he actually could use to his advantage. Instead, however, he inevitably cuddles up to foul, chauvinistic throwbacks with baggage into oblivion.
Kay Johnson (Colorado)
@Rick Gage Waiting for his memoir where he "barely knew" Mrs. T. lol.
Fred Lifsitz (San Francisco CA)
No surprise here. The extraordinary lack of decency and qualifications just keeps on rolling. Expect nothing less, and a whole lot more pathetic appointments in every conceivable area.
DENOTE MORDANT (CA)
Men like Moore are common. His misogynistic outlook should be kept under wraps. Moore’s problem is his incompetency for his appointment to the Fed bank.
ms (Midwest)
@DENOTE MORDANT Yes, his incompetency is a huge and concerning problem. But poking a stick in the eye of all women is also a problem, albeit for different reasons. Individuals who are transparently unable to represent all constituents should be barred from public office.
NM (NY)
So much for the notion that Trump would be kept under control by any 'adults in the room.' Trump has pushed out anyone who brought even a hint of responsibility to the administration and embraced those who have the same low standards he holds. The Trump Swamp is thriving.
cherrylog754 (Atlanta, GA)
"Mr. Trump does not necessarily know in advance about their history with women. In fact, administration officials blamed the issues with Mr. Moore on the office of presidential personnel" If President Incurious had bothered to google Wikipedia, he might just have seen the above, if, if, he scrolled down a little on the page. Then if he went a little further, he would have found the following. "January 2018, the IRS obtained a tax lien against Moore for $75,328 in unpaid federal taxes, interest and penalties, alleging Moore had filed a "fraudulent" tax return in 2014" Moore is just another great catch to continue filling the "swamp".
JC (Colorado)
Federal Reserve appointees should be apolitical boring people to protect the credibility of our currency.
DJ (NYC)
@JC This may be the most naive funniest thing I have read in the New York Times in years. You can't really think that is what the Fed is doing. Protect the currency? Their job is to devalue the currency at a steady state.
A. Walgren (Columbia, SC)
One of the saddest aspects of Trump's gross malfeasance as a president and as a man is that his litany of offenses paradoxically shields him from any kind of consequences. Voters have become inured to Trump's daily flouting of presidential norms and basic human decency. This is an indictment of our society's sexism, as well. Trump's indiscretions serve as a badge of honor among many men (and are tacitly accepted by many women who have internalized the "boys will be boys" mea culpa). Meanwhile, dignified and intelligent woman like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren are raked over the coals for minor -- and some may argue fabricated -- transgressions. I worry about our country's politics, but I am positively terrified about its soul.
Denise (Northern California)
I would definitely argue fabricated! Hillary Clinton’s demonization include many infuriating fabrications.
Brian (Oakland)
Where does Moore stand on the work of the Fed. YES, his horrible views are horrid. Report also about his stance on the Federal Reserve and its work. I would imagine he is radically maladjusted for this appointment.
Tom Q (Minneapolis, MN)
The real tragedy is that I don't believe Trump believes he has a troubled history with women. Given his history of payments to women, adulterous behavior, multiple divorces and more, he may see nothing wrong with Moore's attitude and behavior. (And, given the fact that Moore seems to have problems paying bills, that shouldn't be a demerit either as far as Trump is concerned.) For Trump, women are objects of amusement. Of course they can be pesky when they seek money for the "services" they have provided to him in the past, but when money is no object, what's the problem? "Fixers" take care of that. Just ask Michael Cohen.
DW (Philly)
@Tom Q "The real tragedy is that I don't believe Trump believes he has a troubled history with women" Of course he doesn't, he thinks that having to pay women off to be quiet and all that stuff means he's a real stud.
Ann (California)
@Tom Q-The latest Mrs. Trump--who appeared nude and worked as a hired escort--would likely agree if she were to tell the truth. Except she was able to improve her position and pay grade.
Sick Of Lies (New Jersey)
A real character flaw perhaps indicative of his self centeredness. No judgement
RAC (Minneapolis, MN)
Let's set aside for the moment the *cultural* issues vis-a-vis Stephen Moore's character and look at his *professional* qualifications to be at the Federal Reserve. I encourage everyone to read the several columns written by noted Nobel laureate and distinguished economist Paul Krugman for this newspaper on the lack of professional qualifications of one Stephen Moore.
C (N.,Y,)
Some President Trump has selected for his "team" are now convicted felons. One, Michael Flynn, Trump had been warned urgently not to hire. Others, Stephen Moore included, are unethical, chronic liars, and use their position in the administration to aid companies they previously lobbied or worked for. Many are at the very least, unethical. Above that are the blatant liars and then the criminals. Even the President's son-in-law's father is a convicted criminal who blackmailed his own brother-in-law and went to jail. Team Trump. And remember those who we were assured would keep Trump on an even keel - Mattis, Kelly, Tillerson? They're gone.
T Montoya (ABQ)
I know it is hard to keep up, but let’s also not forget Trump’s defense of Rob Porter ever after it was proven that Porter has a habit of beating women.
BSR (Bronx NY)
Message for Trump and Moore: Neither of you have any decency.
Chuck (CA)
If Moore ends up on the Fed... and given his past economic views during the great recession, when the next recession comes he will be doing his very best impression of President Hoovers approach to the Great Depression... which made it much much worse then if he had stayed out of it completely. Seriously.. if you ever listen to Moore speak.... we are talking total egocentric clown here... which I guess would be why Trump like him so much.... because (and I mean no offense to real clowns)... clowns stick together in matters of politics.
richardb62 (Washington, D.C.)
Fine for Trump to appoint women to prominent positions, because in today's world, the job market is full of very highly qualified women. That said, Trump's appointments generally have been of a lower order, regardless of gender. This guy basically has pretty low standards.
LauraF (Great White North)
@richardb62 There is only one standard -- will they kowtow to Trump and follow his biddings, be they legal or not.