How New York Lost Amazon

Feb 21, 2019 · 16 comments
R (NYC)
Solid reporting. As a resident of Long Island city, I'm really disappointed with the loss. All my neighbors are too. It sounds like unions drove Amazon away while people who actually live in the community welcomed them heartily. People who are against Amazon are misinformed or misguided by socialists like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. New York City was built on commerce nearly 400 years ago, and it continues to be the reason people come to New York City today. LIC is the fastest growing area in the country and needs more infrastructure. Amazon's proposals would have delivered schools, shops, and investment that are desperately needed. Jobs and investment are necessary for prosperity.
BG (DC)
Numerous references to Amazon's DC location as the VA suburbs. Correct, technically the location is not in DC. However, the Arlandria location is essentially the same distance to downtown DC as Long Island City is to midtown Manhattan.
Don Alberstadt (Arlington, VA)
"How New York Lost Amazon" should be re-titled as How Amazon almost Fleeced New York." Cities exist for more, far more than for jobs. People spend only 1/3 of the day working, That means we spend 2/3 of their time doing something else. The media has been falling all over itself as if Amazon is royalty or a community that garners Amazon is a lottery winner. Once again the media FAILS to cover the story from any other perspective of "rah, rah, sis boom bah?" PATHETIC. Then when people actually rise up in opposition, the people who pay 75 percent of all taxes are portrayed as fools or dumb and obstinate.
Matt B (New York)
This episode called amazon "The world's most profitable company," which is incorrect. By market cap it's been off and on the world's largest company, but AMZN is by no means the world's most profitable
Alanda Wraye (Olympia, WA)
I appreciate the political analysis offered regarding the Amazon story in New York but am surprised there is not more information about the potential harm and losses that Seattle has reported due to the Amazon presence.
Schrodinger (Northern California)
My view on this is that the mayor and the New York city government were stunningly incompetent. Local people were raising very legitimate questions about housing, schools and transportation infrastructure. I have no doubt that those issues were of grave concern to Amazon as well. Coming up with a plan for that is a core function of city government. The local state senator said that no plan to address those issues was ever presented by the city. Why didn't the city and the state spend some of the $26bn that they expected to raise to build more schools and improve the infrastructure in Long Island City? The 53rd Street tunnel carrying the E line appears to pass right underneath the Amazon site in Anable basin. Why not build a new station there to serve the campus? Why not build the Queens rail hub proposal to link the E, the 7 and other subways to Long Island Railroad? Why not develop a waterfront park along the Queens and Brooklyn waterfronts and link them together with a bridge over Newtown Creek? The old industrial buildings could have been replaced with residential towers. The residents could commute to Amazon along footpaths and bikeways or maybe on the BQX light rail project. If the city had been willing to spend some of that $26bn in tax revenue on transportation infrastructure they could have mollified the critics and developed a very interesting new neighborhood along the waterfront.
Megan (MN)
Is there a reason you guys chose not to discuss the value of economic development incentives used by cities? It's not as if all incentive packages are created equal. In fact incentive packages have been on the rise since the 90's, but wage growth certainly has not. Disappointed with this episode. You guys could have dug deeper. https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/report_examining-the-local-value-of-economic-development-incentives_brookings-metro_march-2018.pdf
Michael (Salt Lake City)
Excellent story this morning but a little trouble in editing, at 7:12 it restarts. Thanks for all the top notch reporting you do!!!!
Michael (Salt Lake City)
Excellent story this morning but a little trouble in editing, at 17:20 it restarts. Thanks for all the top notch reporting you do!!!!
Marsha (Toronto)
As a daily listener to The Daily I was appalled to hear today February 21 Wm Hammer? (a physicist speaking in relation to the White House internal panel to assess climate change and it’s impact) state that “the demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under hitler. Carbon dioxide is actually a benefit to the world and so were the Jews” To draw an analogy between Jews and carbon dioxide in the ‘scientific’ debate on the evils of carbon dioxide is outrageous and an insult to the Jewish people and the memory of those who perished in the holocaust. Dr. Hammer has tried tactically to use emotional appeal to humanize carbon dioxide at the expense of dehumanizing the Jewish people. He owes them an apology.
Zebra3 (U.S.)
THIS was the most shocking day of Goodman's Career? The day Amazon pulled out of the New York deal? THIS? I think you guys are over-inflating Amazon's importance.
George Alan (NYC)
Just not enough transportation I think... Subway are terrible.
C (NY)
The playout from today’s episode is messed up and jumbled
Gadflyparexcellence (NJ)
As always, my wife and I love The Daily for its insights and interpretations of events impacting us. We enjoyed today's segment titled "How New York Lost Amazon." However, we felt that a brief comparison of why Amazon succeeded in Virginia vs New York would have been a fitting addition to the segment. For example, did Virginia offer the same incentives to Amazon as New York did? How were they different and in what ways?
Birdygirl (CA)
Excellent story today on Amazon--well reported, concise, and informative. Thank you.
Steve (New York)
Better headlines: How Amazon Lost New York Why New York Didn't Want Amazon How New York Shed Amazon