Thank you to those who commented on our use of a photo showing dead victims of this attack. We understand your concerns. In response to your feedback, we published a discussion with our director of photography and National editor about the tough calls we make in using this and similar photos. You can find that article here: https://nyti.ms/2RMB8je
And while Pence declared ISIS defeated today, they struck in Syria again, killing Americans.
What's the commonality here folks?
If that's a "religion of peace" I'd hate to see the war version.
NYT are doing al-Shabaab a service by posting the picture of the two dead victims. New York Times is part of the problem. They have families that would see this! Also, this could trigger unpleasant memories for the survivors. I've lived in North America most of my life and I've never seen dead victims being posted to articles by a supposedly "reputable" media outlet like NYT. You guys say that you want viewers to get the whole picture (which I can understand), but why haven't you done the same for mass shootings in America? You haven't shown dead victims of American mass shootings, so why are you eager to start with this one? You can't pick and choose. This is beyond disrespectful.
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NYT photo department: what are you doing showing photographs of the dead from The Secret Garden restaurant? Would you do the same thing if this event had taken place in the US?
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Someone made a good point, published by BBC: Would NYT publish the same pictures if the victims had been Americans. The answer, I presume, is no.
Every other criteria should pass this one first.
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What is your editorial policy on showing the victims of violence? I don't recall, for example, the NYTimes showing the victims of Sandy Hook, Parkland, or other tragedies. Do you only show the bodies when they're "non-western"?
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@Paisley thank you so much for asking this. We’ve been begging them to take down that photo for over a day now to no avail.
And yes they only do this for “non-western” countries.
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I am beyond shocked that nytimes has decided to publish images of the dead when they do not do the same for terror attacks that happen in western capital.
I guess according to nytimes standards some people deserve dignity and others do not. My remaining shreds of regard for western media is gone.
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The New York Times enjoys a great deal of goodwill and respect among Kenyans in the US and in the diaspora, but the question is now being (fairly) asked if the Times has the same respect for its Kenyan readers and subscribers, as it does for its audience in the US.
As a multi-decade reader of the Times, I must say I don’t recall seeing such graphic images in this newspaper. It is unfortunate that in the midst of such a tragedy, the Times’s editorial decisions should have become a major talking point, but the Times is not a normal paper. It matters more than other publications, and it is rightly judged by a higher standard.
If there are examples where the Times has run similarly graphic pictures of victims of the many tragic shootings in the US, then I would strongly advise you to point these out. I am aware that the relatives of those victims will not welcome you doing this, but if you do not provide a credible refutation of the accusations of a double-standard then I am afraid you risk losing the respect of a nation.
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@James we’ve already lost respect for then because we’ve begged for a whole day for this to be taken down.
Initially that photo was at the top. They later moved it into the body of the article. A day later it’s still there.
My heart breaks for the deceased families.
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NY Times: Why publish such gory images of terror victims?
Please respect the victims and their families. I am sure you will not do the same if it were terror attack in NYC like the 9/11.
Just stop the double standards please.
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@Grace Tracy maybe because in 9/11 some bodies vaporized never to be seen again. But the media did show lots of bloody people escaping the buildings. But for those who did jump from the very high floors there were no bodies to be found.
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It's well that your article gives credit where it is deserved nto. But this won't spare you, the writer /author/ editor or any innocent being from being part of the statistics to move the agenda being displayed in this article some day.
Thanks for showing the world this.
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Those photographs and images on that video are devastating to look at. My heart goes out to the victims of this terror. It seems there are so many proffered solutions but none capable of stopping the carnage.
The statements of the Interior Minister offer very little detail and almost no comfort.
Sad to say that this is not the only type of terror that exists in the world. In the U.S. we know that racial terror has been killing people for hundreds of years and still continues to do so. Gun terror from white supremacist groups, carried out by lone gunmen persists in churches, synagogues and temples. We must resolve to do better as human beings.
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Kenya does not seem ready for prime time. I was on a tour last month starting in Jordan then in Egypt. Jordan does not have these types of problems. But the first hotel I stayed in Giza upon arrival to Egypt had a truck with security with machine guns. In order for my tour bus to proceed it had to be checked undercarriage with mirrors. Then once we got to the hotel entrance we had to go through a metal detector and place our hand luggage on the x-ray machine belt. Then we went on to Aswan, then Luxor then back to Cairo. Every hotel had similar security with armed security. And everyone had x-ray machines. Kenya already had that shootout at the mall I believe back in 2013? Then a few years ago terrorists shot up a college going around asking students if they are Muslims or not? I believe they had to recite some lines from the Koran if they claim to be Muslim.
Kenya needs to get its act together. Suicide bomber or not those people should never have made it inside the lobby for a suicide bomber to detonate a bomb. I returned to New York on December 16, then by Saturday morning December 29 I heard of an overnight terrorist bomb attack on a tourist bus near the pyramids where I was. So that could have been me. But the point is the hotels make it very difficult for the kind of massacre you see in this article.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/28/bomb-attack-tourist-bus-giza-pyramids-egypt
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I have to agree with most of the commenters here who are requesting that The Times remove the graphic pictures of the dead. Just because we are an ocean away, it doesn’t mean their loved ones won’t see them. I wouldn’t want to see my husband slumped over a chair with his laptop open or my son lying on the ground with his eyes still open in death while others flee around him. As one commenter said, the best pictures from a disaster like this are the ones that show the love and care we still have for our fellow human beings, not the ones that glorify and validate violence. I don’t remember seeing anything like these photos after 911 or any of the gun massacres in the U.S. Please reconsider.
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I do take the point of several commenters that showing images of these attacks is important for bringing the reality of violence to our awareness. On the other hand, I wondered why there were so many images - one image following the other distracting from the text. There are no names, no identification, no context for any of the photos. Instead, there are generic terms as captions almost like a summary of a movie plot: gunmen, victims, people, journalists, rescuers, survivors. The images begged my attention as to who the photographer was and how he or she fell in amongst this terror and chaos and took images that showed the people in a close up way. The photographer was able to move through this chaos as an observer deep inside a terrible event. No one is identified in the images and thus there is a sense that personal decency is missing; still, the photographer did not shy from bringing us a close up gaze on this horrible event. Bodies slumped down in their chairs, their computers still open, the garden view behind them unaffected: the 21st century is impersonal and humans are disposable. Pray for their families.
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NYT editors need to reconsider (and pull down) publishing of gory pictures of dead victims of any terrorist attack, this one included. Hard to see how the editors don't realize that by doing so they are serving the terrorists' objective.
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This is a sad day for Kenya, but as a media practitioner myself, lets be sensitive. Violence, so the saying goes, begets violence.
Graphic videos and pictures, filmed by groups like Islamic State, or Al shabaab and released on the internet simply turn the group into a globally feared brand. I suggest a global initiative to shut terrorists out from giving them media attention.
Let security forces do their work, and if pictures are necessary, lets share pictures that embrace love and togetherness in hard times like these. Instead of spreading fear for clicks, inspire solidarity and love. This is Marketing 101 guys, we should know this. If you want to promote togetherness, you can by writing about togetherness and share pictures of how all Kenyans (regardless of religious affiliation) came together in this time of need. But the more you show death and violence, you empower these groups every time they click on your pages and they celebrate.
So I hope with the same zeal you have reported these attacks, use the same zeal to write about how Kenya, and Kenyan's are a country united against terror, and it's people shall not be shaken. Write about Grace Kingi, the woman who brought breakfast to the security forces fighting the assailants. Write about how Kenyan's turned up in large numbers to donate blood. Write about the private gun holders who risked their lives to save others. Write about how corporate's like Uber gave free rides to hospitals for people to donate blood.. Write
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I would hope that NYT use the exact same standards for publishing photos of the dead as it does when similar carnage takes place in NY, Europe or other Western nations. The story can be told without these grisly pictures.
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Whilst I appreciate you are trying to publish a hard hitting article about a heinous crime, the level of insensitivity in publishing graphic images of people's loved ones slumped in death, riddled with bullets is beyond belief. I cannot imagine the NY Times would have countenanced doing this, had the victims been Americans and had the incident occurred in the US. There certainly would have been an outcry as there should be in this case. Please have the decency to remove these images.
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We've never seen victim photos of the US gun shooting shootings, is the situation that clearer enough for all to understand or it's fake news?
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As an expat in Nairobi, please take these photos down New York Times. You are doing an extreme disservice to us all. I think we all vehemently disagree here that this is the standard for reporting events like this. It’s a double standard. We also don’t need graphic images to confirm how much of a senseless tragedy this has been. Anyone who thinks we do should be fired.
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I just wish you could pull down the pictures of the dead people. those are our families and it pains us to see their pictures on world media. kindly.
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As we fight against this terrorist, It is time NYtimes answer a few basic questions. Why are you selective when publishing gory images of dead people? Did for instance published dead people Images from the charlie hebdo attack or the mass school shootings that have been happenning in your Back yard. or the shooting in chicago? the answer is no . Then why do so for our kenyan attack? Is it Modern day terrorism? Yes. This is very shameful and senseless of you and the honourable thing for you to do is to pull it down.
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Good reporting..Bad choice of picture! Why show bodies of the dead?
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Saudi Arabia has sponsored Islamic terrorism in Africa for years. This latest atrocity can be laid at the kingdom's doorstep along with hundreds of others. I'm sure Saudi Arabia isn't worried about any international backlash. If the NYT doesn't think that Black bodies deserve respect, why would SA think the rest of the world cares?
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Can you please remove such images. It is irrational and it shows a lack of compassion to post such insensitive images because some people have lost family members and they will not be amazed when they seen such gory images.
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I thought a newspaper with the stature of NYTimes would act with some level of professionalism in publishing. You play right into the hands of terrorists with the sort of images you are putting out there. Terrorism is a worldwide threat and not just particular to Kenya and it's people, it can happen anywhere and we all have a duty to act responsibly and exercise restraint.
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Show the pictures! If children, fathers, and wives can die in these types of tragedies (premeditated murder), then I should be adult-enough to comprehend the full extent of the horror that is occurring in my world.
I speak as a mother who planned and attended her 22-year old daughter's funeral.
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The real issue is that they were killed by terrorists. While I do agree showing these pics are insensitive the focus should remain on the attack.
Publishing gory pictures does not construe disrespect to any family. To face a problem cold and upfront brings home the reality of terror and helps spur action toward combating it. All of this takes immense courage. We must not bee too sensitive as Africans. Thanks
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Kindly bring down these images on the article. Be sensitive and respect the victims.
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My son until last Dec was managing a very successful and important project in Somaliland:Kings college hospital (London) trained all medical staff in Somaliland. They did it presentially and online. Nairobi has been the hub for aid works to gather and meet with different agencies.it has been a very unsafe place for a great long time. When I saw the photo of a (young ?) body next to an open laptop I felt my heart sinking. that person could have been my son. He was somebody’s child. away from their home, trying to help a much needed region
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I too can attest that the picture of the two victims in the restaurant isn't "normal" coverage. I read much "professional" coverage of terrorist attacks and you normally see the wounded, the fleeing, the survivors. Maybe covered bodies. But no 'still life' with dead people. It was in fact so uncommon that I didn't understand at first what I was seeing, was that living people trying to hide under the table? No such luck. Sickening. And grossly insensitive to these people's loved ones and family. I don't believe the argument seen around here that you need these kind of photos to call for action. Do I need to see massacred children in order to oppose the free availability of assualt weapons in the US? Not really.
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I think the use of images of the dead people was in bad taste and did not auger well for their families and colleagues especially when the situation was still being resolved. This is actually not standard practice as in all the incidences before in the US, Paris, Europe no images of Dead people are published.
I think we only ask that the reporting be civil and accurate not sensationalized. We just want our stories to be reported accurately and with respect.
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Time and time again I read about tragedies such as these and serious issues going on outside of America, but only when I go looking for it. Major social media platforms are the source of many peoples information in today's age, its unfortunate and baffling that the ads and news being reported barely covers a significant enough percentage of these events. Even the government, not naming specific politicians, but the platform they have gives an opportunity to spread word and awareness of issues happening every day, that are affecting millions of people. People with power need to be just as educated as those who are without, so much is unknown and people are suffering because of it.
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I am sorry for the victims of this terrorist attack and their families. Regarding the pictures, maybe it is time for the world to see what Islamic terrorism looks like, up close and personal. Perhaps the pictures will stir someone to action to help end this problem.
As a 9/11 survivor, I've seen it up close and personal and I do not underestimate the levels of brutality these terrorists will go to in order to make their point. Their point is pointless, by the way.
Maybe if the NYT posted pictures of the Nairobi and Dar es Salaam embassy attacks in 1998 we would have demanded more action from our government.
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@Rob Bill Clinton tried, firing off a hundred or more cruise missiles at Osama bin Laden, but he missed ... Dubya ignored Clinton's parting advice (after all, Condi was an expert on Russia, not the Middle East), until it was too late.
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@Rob I am in the minority of all of the comments. I think the blood and death should be shown - for all kinds of atrocities, including at home and abroad and all types of people. It helps me see the victims as real people, with families and friends, not just a statistic in an article. And I grieve for their loss of life.
If we're not faced with the horrific aspects of violence, we don't take action to change. That said, if there's so much shown, do we become numb to it anyway?
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@Rob This is wrong, you are so wrong. You can't think like that. There are other ways to stir action, but that doesn't include sharing gory and insensitie images to viewers the world over.
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This is a very tragic and predictable event. The only way to prevent the Shabab from carrying out more lethal attacks is to eliminate the Shabab, and the only way to do that is to impose order on Somalia. Since no government appears interested in occupying Somalia, attacks like this will continue for the forseeable future.
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@Dan Stackhouse Kenya has been trying, but it would take a much larger, well equipped and well supplied force to do it, with intimate knowledge of Somalia as well. Bill Clinton tried a bit, but quit after the notorious Black Hawk incident. Canada was there, too, but quit in infamy after atrocities performed by its paratroops (whose regiment was disbanded afterward). However, Canada did accept a lot of Somali immigrants.
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Thanks Czarnajama, you're right on all counts, and I was too brief and vague. I should have said, no government with the power to occupy Somalia seems interested in trying at this point, after the failures by the U.S. and Canada. But that really is the only way this menace gets eliminated, by taking care of the source.
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Cowardly attack on innocent civilians
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Newspapers would do a service by including Shabab's sources of funding for their schools, weapons and extremist ideology.
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@David Hartman That's easy: Saudi Arabia.
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Please respect the family and friends of the people affected by this attack and delete the picture of dead bodies you have published.
There are other ways you can report the horror without contributing to the ongoing collective trauma.
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Displaying the ongoing blood, guts, suffering and trauma is good. This going on every night on the 3 networks during the Vietnam war got us out of Vietnam before the politicians killed another 60,000 of us.
USN/USMC Vietnam 1966-70
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@Wambui:
none of their faces were shown.
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@Wambui As disturbing as it is, it's time people see what these Islamic terrorist do. I, too, was stunned to see these but overall it is important because this group continues to terrorize Somalia and east Africa, with little organized response unless people see the results of their massacre.
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I am American and have never visited Africa, and like some African commenters here, I am horrified that the NYT chose to publish photos of these murder victims. I could not believe my eyes. Take the photos down!
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You have done a good article. Unfortunately, the image of the dead victims of the attack are simply atrocious and unjustifiable. There is family to them, and publishing fresh images of their loss for the world to see is absolutely inhumane. Pull down the image, at least.
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@TonioJD
I thought the same. I had to look for awhile to understand what I was seeing, then was surprised by the inclusion of the image of those murdered.
NYTimes - Did you include such photos in attacks that took place in Europe or the U.S.?
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This is a significant terror attack and has largely been ignored by the American media. Well down from the top of the NYT headlines.
If this occurred in Europe there would have been much more coverage.
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So you have decided that the best way to portray your 'excellent' journalism is by spitting on our dead? You have decided that the tears of our people cannot thaw your arrogance. You have decided that heroism will be defeated by terrorism. You have decided to be the terrorist's accomplice. Your indiscretion and insensitivity has been noted. We will not forget.
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As has been widely shared, it is very unprofessional to publish pictures of the dead. Show some respect to these folks and the deceased. There is a double standard here with the way the Times has disregard for privacy and dignity of the Kenyan people. If it was a domestic case, somebody would be suing them for such photos. I am a Kenyan and this is sub par journalism.
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Please exercise discretion and remove the images of the deceased. They adds little to the story but pain to the families of those affected.
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Religion is needless and has been, and continues to be, the cause of so much hate, suffering, and death. I really wish we could eradicate all religion from the planet. Any 'good' that religions do is typically self-serving, and a way to ingratiate their group with others, to gain more followers, ergo financial donations and power.
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@Lisa Religion is an evolutionary social development which allows warriors to go into battle expecting life after death as well as having a transcendant cause to fight for and group solidarity. However, as Gwynne Dyer pointed out some years ago, democracies are exceptionally lethal in dealing with their enemies, so religion should not threaten them.
Horrible, and the photos are sad...devastating to see. They may have value in being shown however, as we cannot see the faces of the dead. The violence is ugly and pointless, just about violence.
Shame on the perpetrators. We are not fooled. This is completely unholy.
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@MJB I too found it interesting that we were able to see photos of the deceased. We who live relative lives of 'luxury' need to see such images, to better understand the reality of life for so many others.
Why is it that US news media don't show similar images of slumped-over bodies, after attacks perpetuated by our own domestic terrorists (i.e, mass shooters)? Hmmm....
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@MJB how many bodies of white/Western people have you seen after school shootings, terrorist attacks etc?
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@Lisa
Another thing, I was not finding it "interesting" that we were able to see photos of the deceased. I was commenting about how sad it was for the people there, and shame on the perpetrators for this unholy violence that is pointless. It is not necessary to make this about us. It is really important to feel empathy for those impacted and to figure out...what do we do about this horror in the world?
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This is an all time low by New York Times. In all the numerous terror attacks in Europe and the gun attacks in the US, New York Times never posts photos of the deceased, why the double standard this time round? Shame on you!!!
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@Karanja Maybe it's the start of a new trend? I think we naive Americans need more of a dose of reality... we are far too protected from real-life images, whether of war, terror attacks, mass shootings, or the simple human body in its natural form.
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Why did I have to go past twenty stories to find this?
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The photo of the two dead African men (which will undoubtedly become a favorite in the online gore galleries) is yet another reminder of the double standard Western media has for images of the dead. More Americans have died this way than Kenyans ever will, but they get a gurney and a white sheet for their final portraits.
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To the editors -
Showing photos of the victims is irresponsible journalism, and is unacceptable. Please take those pics down.
I lived in Nairobi for seven years, and my home was less than one km from the Westgate Mall when the attack happened in 2013.
And by the way, I know who those two victims slumped over in the restaurant are. Requiescant in pace +
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Why did the Times decide to underscore this story with creepy music? The story is disturbing enough. You don't need to manipulate our emotional response.
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As Trump would say, lack of sensitivity is same as irresponsible reporting which we call in this era Fake News. NY Times has disappointed in how you first reported this story. As a Kenyan and American dual citizen, I feel offended by the newspaper. When US is attacked (which is by far more often than Kenya and many African countries) there’s some level of decency in reporting. When a developing country is under attack, the weatern media, as depicted in this article, rushes to report in a sensational manner that glorifies the attackers.
The apology sent out by NY Times is just but a punch to the wound inflicted by the paper’s editors.
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The Times is right to publish these photos. They expose no identifying facial characteristics and they aren't any more graphic than the photos published of the Las Vegas Massacre. Time Magazine, CNN, and other carried news images of the dead.
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@Dirk maybe you might not know/ identify how your loved one was dressed. But the families and friends have identified the victims through this images. Insensitive at best.
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@CP terrorism is insensitive, not reportage. Journalists are not here to console people's feelings.
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As a number of the comments indicate, the lack of editorial restraint in selection of images distracts of the importance of this story. There is no need to show images of the dead victims in a way that their family and friends would find grossly disturbing.
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When this story was first published, the images of the dead victims at the restaurant led the article, which beggars belief. Now it is buried halfway between sticking up for your editor and assuaging the pitchforks on twitter.
When it comes to respect for the dead, the NYT editorial team has shown that Kenyans are not deserving of any. The shock value for readers in the west is worth more than the grief of victims' families.
Please revisit your Vegas, Manchester and Brussels stories as guidance for your own policies, as it seems you have forgotten them.
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@MMK Photos of the dead from the Las Vegas massacre were published widely in the American press. To claim otherwise is gaslighting.
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Those photos were published after the fact. Not when the incident was ongoing.
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@Dirk My major complaint is with the timing. They published photos when they knew the next of kin were yet to be informed.
Their reporters were at the scene, they knew the bodies had yet to be identified.
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Take THAT picture down now and hang your heads in shame. Those wounded bodies are not props for effect, they are not to be exploited and they have no “news value”. They belong to dead human beings, with loved ones alive to see this horror. Show some respect.
I’m ashamed on your behalf.
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It is a crying shame that NYT the epitome of responsible journalism continue to publish this photos.
How is it that tweeter the poster child for everything goes has the good taste to suspended the NYT account that posted the photos.
At first I thought it was just me who felt angry because it was personal to me, my uncle has been waiting for his brother in law outside the premises for the last 5 hours. The brother in law was in a meeting at a restaurant inside the hotel.
After seeing the photos I am hoping that there are many more restaurants inside. I know my uncle has not seen this photos i really don't know what to do.
But to all of you who found the photos indecent thank you for your support i will let you know what happens.
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@Michael
I'm so sorry. I hope you get good news.
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@Giantjonquil - Thanks. There is no good news. The Bro-in-law passed away.
It's in poor taste that the NYT would choose to post graphic photos of those who were killed during this attack. I have not seen the paper do this for attacks in the US or Europe. It's a gross double standard and shows a lack of respect and sensitivity. We are people too. I hope no one had to find out that a loved one had been killed through these images. The NYT response of wanting to depict the horror of the situation is nonsense. If you truly want to demonstrate respectful and sensitive journalism, take the pictures down.
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And Trump want to pull the Americans Soldier out of Syria and Afghanistan. They are just waiting, they have time.
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In your 100 year history, haven't you learnt publishing images of the dead is distasteful? We expect more from your editors. To the people of Kenya, stay strong, you will overcome this. God Bless Kenya.
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@Freddy, What do you think war and terrorist is? A coloring book.
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@Anthony it's clearly not a fictional blockbuster movie to be peppered with gory scenes. Terrorists thrive on such images.
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It's clearly not a coloring book. But @Anthony I really doubt if you've seen images of dead people displayed on widely viewed broadcasting platforms like this one after mass shootings in the US or in Europe. The double standard.
Just let them learn to respect the dead, irregardless of where they are from. This pictures are unnecessary for us to be able to paint the picture of terrorism.
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Shame on you NYT for publishing pictures of the dead. Do their families even know at this point that their loves ones are dead or will the find out through this gruesome picture?
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As others have already pointed out, the publishing of the photos of the deceased is not prudent. The other thing is why is this news story buried 'below the fold' so to speak?
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The New York Times pridesitself on being a paper that respects ALL equally. You hit an all-time low showing dead bodies in the article covering the attacks( I will not share the article on my platform). I didn't see the dead bodies of the victims of the 9/11 attacks or the multiple high school shootings in the United States published on the Times, nor the bodies of victims of terror attacks in London and other parts of Europe. There's a fine line between relaying the magnitude of such a heartbreaking event and blatantly disregarding the privacy not only of the victims and their families, but anyone with a remote connection and sense of empathy to the country at this difficult time. If these images do not come down I will unsubcribe from your paper. Shame on you!
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@Conny
Thank you conny,, we as kenyans are grateful. God bless you for standing and praying for us
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The words ethical and sensitivity seem to be very foreign for the New York Times. It is highly insensitive for any media house to post photos of dead bodies even after several requests to pull them down from various readers. I think it is highly rude and continues to portray how you view black bodies as mere objects of consumption.
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Please take down the photos of the dead.Some families have not even been informed.Exercise some civility
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You've really hit a new low with these images. You would never show dead bodies from American domestic attacks but you deem it ok to show the bodies of dead Africans. Kenyans deserve to mourn their dead in peace without you further insulting them with these distasteful images. Shame on you!!
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When we find them we just need to take them off the battlefield with extreme prejudice with little fanfare
Please take down the photos of the deceased; one's family should not see a loved one as such.
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When similar attacks happens in Stoneman Douglas High School shooting or 2017 Las Vegas these kind of images are never posted. Standard sensitivity and caution to protect victims and their families is observed.
When it is Africa, none of it is observed.
This is reckless and completely unacceptable. Irresponsible and hurtful journalism defined.
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Perhaps they didn't have any photos. In any case, it is at least plausible that if photos had been published of Stoneman and New Town victims there would be more of a political will to actually do something about the scourge of gun violence in the USA. @Njoroge
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wow, such devastation. Praying for the families and people of Somalia and Kenya during this trying time
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Publishing a photograph of dead victims is the height of insensitivity. Shameful.
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Once again, NYTimes shows that it does not value non-white bodies. Despite numerous gun attacks in US and terrorist attacks in Europe, I am struggling to remember the last time raw pictures of white dead bodies where shown in your coverage. Yet time and again, NYTimes journalists and editors feel justified to disrespect Africans and other non-white folks who have lost their lives. Families are in mourning - imagine seeing these pictures! If your policy is NOT to show dead bodies after an attack, then apply it equally across ALL people!
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@Miss B This is true. They would be way more sensitive if it were white body in Europe, America or anywhere. Respect us and take that photo down!
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@Miss B Photos of the dead from the Las Vegas massacre were published widely in the American press. To claim otherwise is gaslighting.
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An organization as large as yours should know better than to publish such images in a cheap attempt to use shock value for more clicks.
These are actual human beings,with families, who might still be in the dark on their whereabouts. Keep that in mind.
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It is unconscionable that you should choose to publish some of these photos during an ongoing incident while families and friends are still anxiously waiting to hear news about their loved ones.
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New York Times, the pictures of the dead at the restaurant is in extremely poor taste. Families are suffering enough and the deceased are real people with real families. I doubt such an image would be shared if this happened in the US. Kindly display some integrity and take it down...
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It's very insensitive to post pictures of the dead. At least have some common decency and be mindful of their families and relatives.
Thanks
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Why in the world would you show pictures of the dead? These are people’s families and loved ones. Isn’t the story bad enough?
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Please avoid showing the overly graphic images, especially of the departed members of our community. It is very insensitive.
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We’re all so focused on the insanity emanating from the White House that we’ve forgotten there is a world of real suffering out there.
How the once mighty have fallen.
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@Charlene It is now in vogue to blame the White House for everything! Poverty of reason!
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i'm not sure how you can validate that statement yet we can surely agree that the nyt has an ally in trump and vise versa as they are both willing to name the group as an islamist extremist group and the associated consequences of human misery that goes with it or al qaueda... i don't think either the times or trump in making it a practice in clearly naming this killing evil ever dropped the ball but in fact further the conversation or that the mighty has fallen. it could be that in naming things as they are we can get closer to ending it