How is an unpermitted grow (i.e. illegal) an example of a side effect of legalizing pot? It is also interesting to consider that vineyards in Sonoma County often let carcinogenic pesticides drift onto adjacent homes and schools and the county generally does nothing to enforce those reglations. Presumably that is a side effect of ending Prohibition.
Disgusting smoke smells? Outlaw the burning of tobacco today please. So much more disgusting than pot.
Just wait until "the family dog" starts getting sick.. you'll see new laws and regulations in the state legislature pass so fast your heads will spin. It's one thing if humans gets sick- but the family dog? Over my dead body!
Welcome to California!!!
Clearly the Uppals don't mind strong smells or they would not have moved in with vineyards in Sonoma County. For months after grapes are harvested the aroma of yeast and primary fermentation is everywhere. We have fermented wine and beer, and grown cannabis - all have very strong smells - but maybe the difference here is that we like the smells and what gets created!. And there are other smells that we live with year round (bakeries, etc.). If we are going to do away with smells we live near, can we start with auto and truck exhaust, refinery fumes, metal and shop smells, etc.? These complaints are more than likely coming from folks who are not happy about cannabis being made legal.
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Just like any and many innovations, discoveries and well just 'changes' these issues with Cannibus odors and health, will resolve themselves eventually. I remember living in Panama City Florida for a time, there was a wood pulp factory nearby, I guarantee you that the odor from that place, when the wind ran in the wrong direction, was, well, putrid and every person who lived in that city (let alone worked in the factory) dealt with it. Air filtration systems, laws regarding odors (just like noise restrictions) questions regarding 'lung' health will all, with time, be resolved. Personally, I, for years was bothered by the fact that my neighbor could go to the local bar or restaurant and drink to their hearts content even to the point where their alcohol consumption affected my wallet (hospital costs/insurance etc.) let alone the loss and damage of life due to drunk driving while I could go to jail for smoking a joint. It's been said that the alcohol industry was and has been active in keeping pot illegal, they looked at their bottom line, sounds logical. Regarding Musk, every inventor ever has gone through successes and failures, this guy has, with Teslas, Space X and maybe some tweak on his tunnel idea has helped bring us to an enlightened and far healthier future. Who remembers the smog on a hot LA or New York or any city's summer day back before hybrids and electric cars. THAT'S stink. Inventions/evolution all take time. Be patient.
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If anyone wonders how state and local government in California operates these days, read the last paragraphs here — that resident had to sue to get enforcement, the county saw it could make money off the suit (fines), allows the illegal grower to sell his illegal product to assure the county gets its money, and doesn’t do squat for the residents who got the process rolling in the 1st place. Unreal.
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Wow, one of many unintended consequences!
I work in a downtown area, and every day I have to put up with the smell of people who board the train after they have been smoking even if there are signs that indicate no smoking on train/subway platforms. It is disgusting and nauseating. Next year I will be an empty nester, and I have contemplated moving closer to the coast, but I am thinking those living on coastal cities tend to be the pot smoking types (sorry for stereotyping). After reading this, I may stay in my suburban bubble, where there is a 90% chance I wont have the pot smell issue.
@Anna It's illegal to smoke pot outdoors. The smell of cigarettes is much more prevalent outdoors than pot. As far as 'pot smoking types' indeed you are stereotyping, I imagine there are as many pot smokers in every other state and city in the country I've occasionally smelled the odor in New York Philly, DC probably more often than here in San Francisco, and I live here. Avoiding the West Coast because of what you may or may not smell there is foolish to say the least and absurd to be kind (sorry for stereotyping).
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Hey @ Bigany, if you like to smell pot smoke while you’re driving, come to Santa Cruz; people have hookahs, firmly planted the center consul of their suv/Minivan/whatever, for easy smoking pleasure!
The air pollution from growing marijuana is greater than anyone anticipated. Since it’s does inside buildings there should be ways to filter out the noxious emissions.
Musk is a nut. His stunt with the mile long tunnel to avoid surface traffic gridlock is truly lame. A mile of freeway with eight lanes going in two directions can and does carry huge numbers of people well. One claustrophobic tube won’t be able to replace one. In addition, what Musk is trying to do is model pneumatic tubes used to send small canisters through buildings with safe vehicles to carry people. His current attempt uses automatically controlled Teslas sliding on grooves at forty miles per hour which he says will travel at one hundred and fifty. The tunnel that he built with the vehicles he’s using cannot do that and likely could not using his current method.
We in California have made a mistake in legalizing Pot. There are all kinds of unintended consequences we are just beginning to discover. One of the biggest is the wave of Lung Cancer we will have in about 20 years.
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@Bruce1253. Actually, most new users use edibles, or vape THC. It's old people that still smoke marijuana.
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@PeppaD
Bad news, Vaping is still smoking. If you irritate the Lungs long enough with enough poisonous chemicals, they give up and cancer happens.
We need to regulate cannabis production and require it be grown far from neighbors. Growing cannabis indoors like the farmer in Sonoma County or homeowners in my neighborhood doesn't contain the odor without a self-contained air system. My wife and I bought an light industrial lot behind our house, and one of the stipulations is new business cannot create odors for the neighbors. We need the same regulations with cannabis.
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I agree 100%. I work in the industry in Sonoma County and I think it’s just good business to deal with the smell up front - don’t force people to take desperate measures like going to court! Odor control systems are very effective when implemented properly and proof of installation should be required as part of the licensing process for anyone who wants to grow more than a few plants for personal use. The overwhelming stench of a big commercial grow is not something anyone should have to live with!
Like I say, I’ve “harvested“ some of these vapor systems or whatever they’re called; powerful fans with charcoal canisters attached, that are used to cleanse exhaust air, I assume; Me, I’ve re-purposed them, after “Liberating” them from someone’s scrap pile: they’ve to be used as Welding vapor/fume exhaust fans for my occasional welding operations, since galvanized metals & flux fumes are some pretty naughty stuff for the lungs
Naaa, I’ll just hold my breath, Too much time to set up, point and hook up the electricity etc.
This needs to be addressed. Since DC legalized I have to endure the constant smell from my neighbor in my ownhoem. The shared walls in row houses do not keep the skunk stink out. My neighbor could care less and just tells me to get used to it. Clearly this situation for the Jiwan Uppal is 1000X worse. I believe our right to clean air in our own homes should trump anyones right to smoke.
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No pun intended, but the legalization of “pot” is ridiculous, really stupid and ignorant. We have enough other ways to numb or kill ourselves, most without releasing smoke and stink into the environment.