N.Y. Today: Trump vs. Cuomo, Not So Much

Nov 29, 2018 · 21 comments
Ken (Staten Island)
The mayor was booed only briefly because there was no pause in introducing the two others on the stage with him. If there had been a significant pause there would have been significant booing.
Former NYT Fan (Bronx52)
Trump vs Cuomo? Laughable! Why would either do it?
Leon Freilich (Park Slope)
The city is reportedly dropping its plan to open a jail on top of 80 Centre Street.--- Got just the thing, Mr. Mayor. An unused bedroom facing Brooklyn's Prospect Park. No windows, but heck, we can always put up pix of the trees, grass, birds, squirrels and raccoons. Reasonable rate too. $5,000 a month. Does not include electricity or dim light bulbs. Nearby Starbucks ready to cater. Subway service on numbers 2 & 3 line minutes away, in case you want to personally inspect. With photogs, naturally, to reinforce your dedication to the common touch.
AutumLeaff (Manhattan)
Ah liberals. A dude came over, said ‘change you can believe in’, nothing changed, and you reelected him any way. A major ran on ‘legalize it, sanctuary city, fix the streets, stand up to the Gov, protect the illegals in ebikes’, you reelected him, and the stuff is still illegal, the streets are full of pot holes, he’s palling around with the Gov, and opposed the bill to make ebikes legal (for the same reason the NYPD was cracking down on them but he stopped that to protect the illegals riding them) A gov ran on a platform to ‘stand up to Trump’, then soon as you reelected him, he ran to kiss the ring and beg for cash. Liberals, no wonder this country is in trouble.
N. Smith (New York City)
@AutumLeaff I'm not much of a fan of either of these "dudes" -- but then again, I can't say the reason why this country is in trouble is because of "Liberals". Especially when we have a president who has trouble addressing racism, anti-Semitism and a significant rise in hate crimes that he has helped bring about. Just sayin'...
Freddie (New York NY)
@AutumLeaff - I'm not sure how I feel about your political conclusion, but I LOVE your screen name!!!
Steve (New York)
I would suggest that Jeanne Burke sometime read about the loving relationship Hitler had with his dogs. Dogs don't make moral judgments on their owners and certainly have no understanding of laws.
Freddie (New York NY)
It’s a day trying no numbers in the briefing. So I'll read the column on the big screen before I leave the house. Only one song for that. :) Tune of “1-2-3” (from Gloria Estefan’s ”On Your Feet”) 1, 2, 3, 4- Come on tell me what awaits me In the New York Times! (The dog jumps up, saying it’s a great day to get on your feet and serve breakfast!) I’m checking my handheld Im bed here with New York Today Hey, Mark Ruffalo got help I’m glad that all turned out okay And the weather looks all right Despite all the climate change Lunch with Trump and Cuomo Tensions mounting Here’s the briefing. Let’s start counting 1. (???).
Freddie (New York NY)
"It’s a tricky balance." When the talk turns to anything about New Yorkers and lunch, it often comes down to: What would Patti LuPone (or Elaine Stritch or Barbara Walsh )say? tune of "The Ladies Who Lunch" Here’s to the pols who had lunch Those two New York guys. Once we’re through the lies, There’ll be numbers to crunch Then all hope just dies. The pols are pals but we have a hunch They’re sure to punch and then counterpunch What’s clear about the guys who had lunch? Everybody’s wise! Everybody’s wise! Wise! Wise!
Don Wiss (Brooklyn, NY)
I've seen the posters. Now I hope Joseph Masella will go around and remove all of them that are on street fixtures.
Andrew Gessner (Midtown East)
While I’m fine with the new format, some of the content seems hardly newsworthy, and even that is poorly reported. A missing dog? Really? There is no attempt to make it compelling or even vaguely interesting. How was the dog found? By whom? Did they get the reward? What was the dog’s condition? And the dog walker’s letter? How is this remotely worthy of being fully illustrated? Why should we care? A little human interest is fine, but the emphasis should be on “interest” and this column fails. More on issues that actually matter, please.
Adrienne Stortz (Brooklyn)
Honestly, the news that Pickles was found made my day and that’s the only thing I’ll remember from this briefing. Brooklyn residents have been seeing these posters and rooting for Pickles for months. Yay Pickles!
Rachel Simmons (New York City)
@Adrienne Stortz Agreed! Yay Pickles! Don't listen to Mr. Gessner, NYT! More uplifting, local stories. Thank you!
Lifelong Reader (New York)
The numbered items are gone. Thanks. Today, numbered items, tomorrow, Metropolitan Diary! The headline play on "Girl Interrupted" was clever, although I dislike that sculpture. Can anyone imagine a figure resisting market forces (or whatever she's supposed to be doing) represented by a boy? It trivializes and infantilizes women.
Freddie (New York NY)
@Lifelong Reader, I got my hopes up when I saw the correction that it would be "Correction: An earlier version of this newsletter inadvertently omitted the numbers..." but I guess that's not to be. :) But what bothers you about the Diary? I had a feeling that some people were trying a "Brian-Fallon-against-Kavanaugh-type" two-step plan, first move the Diary, then jettison it from NYToday entirely. Oddly, I've been amazed that what's happened with the Diary from the comments there is that at least the people commenting on it have been much more from all across the country where until few months ago, the reader comments were mainly the NY area or former New Yorkers.
Shawnthedog's Mom (NJ)
@Freddie "Oddly, I've been amazed that what's happened with the Diary from the comments there is that at least the people commenting on it have been much more from all across the country where until few months ago, the reader comments were mainly the NY area or former New Yorkers." I used to be a frequent commenter on the Diary when it was just provided as a link in NY Today, as I'd click it and get over to the (daily) diary. That's my biggest beef with it being included in entirety without the link in NY Today. Not only does it seem out of place, but I don't feel like commenting on it here (as no one else seems to either) but I have a hard time finding the whole Diary without the link in NY Today. I really cannot understand why the link is no longer provided. There are links to almost every other story. I'm still scratching my head why this became such a big deal to TPTB of this paper. It's just a link. Hard to imagine that a simple link can have either political, editorial, or economic impact of such major proportion that it had to be jettisoned!
Freddie (New York NY)
Hi Shawnthedog's Mom. I bookmarked the Diary so hadn't noticed. I wonder why that's not linked. I’d wondered about what research was showing, and it’s got to be expanding reader base and going beyond a NY reputation, it seems. Alex and Jonathan were reporters we knew of, celebrities as writers to us as a niche group like the way folks like A.O. Scott are to the whole readership, for such a long time; but non-NY Today readers didn’t seem to know their names. It does look like they've been reaching a more national audience already (and getting passionate comments on their own articles) rather than being seen only here and as only a team. BTW, Alex’s continuing coverage (is it a series?) about finding hope and coping with natural disasters is main part of today’s “California Today.” https://www.nytimes.com/column/california-today Jonathan seems to be doing helpful travel-related stuff you never would have thought of, and seems even more bright side of life. He's either so upbeat or wants to spread cheer or a combination. (His comment moderators in Travel aren’t accepting song lyrics, though, so that impedes on my cheer, LOL.) PS Totally separate from that: There’s a Patti LuPone interview from London- in Travel! Talk about fascinating cross-category reporting.
N. Smith (New York City)
Andrew Cuomo could've spared himself a trip to Washington, because there was no way he'd get anywhere with this famously thin-skinned president after "dissing" him on more than one occasion. Besides, it's no great secret that Trump has no great love for New York City, and with the masses of demonstrators that meet him every time that he's here, those feelings appear to be quite mutual. Get ready to dig a little deeper into your pockets.
Bill (Maplewood)
I am hopeful that something good comes from the meeting between Cuomo and Trump. However I don't think that a boring, depressing video about an old tunnel is going to get anyone, especially this president, very excited. If one truly wants his support, why not propose something more visionary that doesn't require a lot of imagination or money? That would be to name it the Trump Tunnel (large gold letters, helvetica, all caps). Even for an unabashed liberal like myself, it would get my unwavering support. That's being both pragmatic and visionary. Also,while they just forked over $1.5 billion dollars for Amazon, Cuomo shouldn't be stating that "$3.25 billion is all the state can afford". That $1.5 billion is nearly half of the money that could have been allocated for the tunnel - which will provide much greater returns on the dollar. Just being pragmatic!
Jeffrey Zuckerman (New York)
@Bill. I hear you. Very pragmatic. Play to Trump’s ego. But maybe a little too pragmatic. I know lots of folks who, on principle, would go out of their way to use another tunnel or bridge rather than one with Trump’s name on it. Not unlike hotels. A difficult pill to swallow. Maybe add a sunset clause as to the name of the tunnel to make the pill go down easier.
Jeffrey Zuckerman (New York)
The “dilemma” Governor Andrew Cuomo faces is not a new one. Smart politicians who want to get things done often need to engage those with whom they disagree. It is called the art of politics. The trick is to know when to compromise and when to draw the line so as not to sacrifice key principles or sell out constituents. Cuomo is adept at pragmatic politics. If he is able to get help from Trump on important New York infrastructure projects, all the more credit to him. While he is at it, he should not forget NYC mass transit. Without question, Cuomo should not be criticized for trying. If federal help materializes and the New York attorney general were to suddenly drop its lawsuit against Trump’s so-called charitable foundation and those associated with it, that would of course be a red flag that something may be amiss. However, with Cuomo, the chances of anything remotely like that happening are, at worst, slim to none. In the meantime, Trump is president and politicians like Cuomo need to recognize that reality and deal with him, as they would any other president, albeit with extreme caution, in order to promote the best interests of their constituents.