Kyrsten Sinema Declared Winner in Arizona Senate Race

Nov 12, 2018 · 76 comments
c (c)
Arizona is an open carry castle law state and beyond the imported yuppies it's in our STATE Constitution to suscede from the union if it threatens our STATE Constitution including the Right not privilege to Keep and Bear Arms a Rule of Law term meaning " modern day field soldier's weapons and equipment good luck to the yuppies acting like locusts voting for the same programed mentality that caused them to flee California because of rampant corruption, fines fees and penalty for anything and cost of living to high. This experiment in blue state mentality won't last never has born and raised in northern Arizona. I open carry a Colt 1911 from my WW2 drill instructor grandfather and a combat blade NONE of you " progressives will EVER change that no matter what criminally Insane unconstitutional ordinance you attempt to pass they are God Given PERIOD. NOT PERMISSION Not privileged ORDAINED. That includes my ability to speak my mind.
Tweeter83 (JAX, FL)
At least this race was already close enough before the shenanigans in FL and GA began. Those still irritate me that because some people cannot follow the law we have to drag out this ordeal and entertain potentially tainted ballots, which shouldn't be counted in the final tally, but most likely will anyways. Hopefully Ms. Sinema holds to her own and maintains a 'centrist' position.
Jbugko (Pittsburgh, pa)
Can we just leave Trump's response to election results out of the main news piece and put him on page 5? His "two cents" on the subject at this point is worthless. His tweets to Macron were worth mentioning as well, but good grief, it's like having an 8-year old spoiled brat instead of a president visiting dignitaries.
J Jencks (Portland)
Congratulations, Ms. Sinema. This is a case of the DEMs running the right candidate for the constituency. The old adage, "All politics is local" is more true than ever. My views lean more to the Left than Sinema's, as do the views of many DEMs. But that should not be the basis for the choice of her as a candidate in AZ. I hope the DEMs can use this foothold as a way of showing Right leaning voters that DEMs are capable of governing with fiscal responsibility and of upholding law and order. The DEMs need to broaden their tent, even as the GOP shrinks theirs, and this is how to do it.
matt (jacksonville)
@J Jencks- This election has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility. It is solely about immigration. Her speech was all about letting in everybody who is "Different than us". No other criteria to meet! Not education, no background checks, no English, nothing to contribute to the people who are already here, say for cheap labor and democrat votes. Her policy, and the policy of the Democrat party of open borders will be the death knell of our unique American culture.
HL (AZ)
The National Republican smear campaign against Sinema backfired. McSally who was thought to be the least "crazy" of the 3 Republican candidates consistently moved toward Trump throughout the campaign. Sinema destroyed her in locally televised debate and had an add campaign which consistently put the record straight on McSally's votes on health care. Sinema isn't a liberal but she said on the record she would have voted against confirmation of Kavanaugh and for protecting the Affordable health care. On balance we lost Flake a very Conservative critic of the President and got a Democrat who will be much more progressive. When you look at how much our Republican Governor won by it looks like many Republicans and Independents split their tickets to elect Sinema. It was a total repudiation of Trump.
Rich (Chandler AZ)
One of the most disciplined straight down the middle inclusive and positive campaigns I have witnessed. A Democrat model in 2020. Health care and doing what is right. Congratulations Sen. Sinema.
Len (Pennsylvania)
Ummm. . This is a pretty big development. If this isn't a road map for Democrats to flip other Senate seats in red states in 2020 I don't know what is. At first, I was a bit disappointed with last Tuesday's election results. I was hoping for a Blue Tsunami. What we got what Rahm Emanuel called a Blue Wave with a Red Undertow. But with this win in Arizona and the Florida Senate race still up for grabs, the Blue Wave appears to have been larger than originally thought. Is it a portent of things to come in 2020? For the country's sake I sure hope so.
J Jencks (Portland)
@Len - In 2020 the GOP will be defending 23 seats in the Senate and the DEMs only 11. So there is a DEM advantage from the start. The GOP seats are mostly in traditionally "red" states, but if the DEMs can learn the lessons from this year, about choosing candidates that fit their constituencies, they've got a good chance to pick up the needed seats.
Len (Pennsylvania)
@J Jencks Agreed.
T Montoya (ABQ)
@J Jencks And you can already put the Colorado Senate seat in the Dem category. Gardner is going to get smoked in a state that gets bluer every day.
Lou Good (Page, AZ)
Sinema in AZ,, Tester in MT and Romney in UT. The West will lead the way back to the reasonable non-partisan middle. Sinema never mentioned Trump once in her campaign. Despite his best efforts, his candidate lost in MT. He's becoming irrelevant here and a liability for candidates. Very encouraging!
rfmd1 (USA)
Congratulations to all the Trump haters: “Ms. Sinema holds up Senator Joe Manchin III, a centrist Democrat from West Virginia, as one of her role models” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/us/politics/kyrsten-sinema-arizona.html?module=inline “U.S. Reps. Kyrsten Sinema and Tom O'Halleraneach voted with the Trump administration's preferred position on 10 of 11 key votes” https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2018/04/01/kyrsten-sinema-tom-ohalleran-side-donald-trump-more-often-than-some-republicans/471206002/
J Jencks (Portland)
@rfmd1 - If the DEMs should achieve a majority in the Senate in 2020 and Trump retain the presidency, and if Trump were to nominate another Far Right SCOTUS justice, I'm confident Sinema would side with her party in resisting the nomination. That's enough for me.
Into the Cool (NYC)
Sour grapes buddy
rfmd1 (USA)
@J Jencks Sinema's role model (Joe Manchin lll) sided with the Republicans in voting for Kavanaugh. Your "confidence" in Sinema siding with her party is misguided.
Alan Dean Foster (Prescott, Arizona)
I would like to know if McSally approved the TV ads that juxtaposed Sinema with images of Osama bin Laden and 9/11. I suspect those ads revolted rather more voters than they persuaded.
Matt (NYC)
If I were an Arizona resident, I probably would not have voted for McSally, but I'll say this: the Republican Party failed her. This is not to detract from Sinema's victory. She had to fight hard to win her seat. But McSally was not free to be... herself. Don't get me wrong, McSally usually votes along party lines. But if one goes back to 2017, they will find she was capable of speaking out against Trump's outrageous conduct, which might have given at least some credit to the idea that she MIGHT be one of the few Republican leaders that is not terrified of Pres. Trump. But the GOP is now a party that sides with an amoral draft-dodger over an honorable veteran. McCain (AZ) spoke out against Trump and his party did not morally support him. McSally would not have been treated any differently. Trump would have had "The Base" believing McSally founded the Taliban or assassinated Archduke Ferdinand by the time the race was over. There is simply no place for McSallys, McCains, Flakes or even Ryans in the Party of Trump. In this sense, losing is the best thing to ever happen to McSally. I don't think she wants to live the life of a Ted Cruz... groveling at the feet of a reprehensible man; tainting her own reputation with his "brand." That pitiful existence is an apt fate for the Ted Cruz's of the nation, but McSally's a grown woman and veteran who does not deserve such indignities. I don't share her politics, but she's too good for the Republican Party.
J Jencks (Portland)
@Matt - The current GOP seems all too happy to grovel at the feet of a bully, perhaps because that's what bullies do when a bigger bully comes along. McSally may still have her chance to show whether she is a groveler or a fighter, if she gets appointed to McCain's seat. It will be interesting to see. My money's on groveler.
Scott (Paradise Valley, AZ)
This was a hard vote but Trump's embarrassments on the international stage is what secured the vote. She did all the right things: played a moderate in a red state, took zero positions on guns as Arizona has the laxest gun laws in the country (aka no gun laws), promised to work towards better healthcare. I watched Trump fly in. McSally sat at Luke Air Force base sucking up to him. Trump stayed 5 minutes from my house and blocked traffic for an hour on Friday rush, then his motorcade took another hour to get out Saturday morning. My girlfriend, part of the resistance, did her part and flipped off his motorcade in front of his fans in North Scottsdale. I told her she can't do that; she's a physician in the area and people know her, but she looked at me and put up another finger.
Blue Zone (USA)
Outstanding!
William (Sedona)
Facing bullying as a child because of her sexuality?.. wha! I did not just read that did I? Perhaps an editor would help. Also, what does her sexuality have to do with anything here? or anywhere other than in her own home.
Al (Cleveland)
Congratulations Kyrsten. A truly sinematic finish ;-)
prj (DC)
I’m glad Sinema won, but I’m more glad that right-wing, “build the wall,” climate-change-denying McSally lost. Maybe some progressives really should try to develop an appreciation of the lesser of two evils in some cases.
Present Occupant (Seattle)
Good news! And IMO it is well past time to accept that “Election Day” results aren’t calculated with the expediency of the wins & losses that occur with, say, a football game. Counting and validating oh and democracy deserve this acknowledgment.
Andy (Salt Lake City, Utah)
Democrats can certainly use the seat and Arizona could certainly use the change. I'm concerned about how the victory will change Democratic perceptions going forward though. Moderate or Progressive in 2020? The 2018 results are inconclusive. I would recommend locally appropriate candidates without offering a specific recommendation on the political philosophy. The problem of course is a presidential candidate is by definition national rather than local. Democrats will need to decide eventually. I'm inclined to promote the candidate with the most natural enthusiasm and charisma regardless of their inter-party politics. As long as the general platform aligns with my priorities, I'm willing to compromise. What we don't want is a repeat of the 2016 primary. Democrats were wrong on so many different levels that year I've had to suspend my disbelief at mentioning President Trump. Trump is totally Democrats fault. Clinton possessed neither enthusiasm nor charisma and there was no platform. Don't make the same mistake again.
J Jencks (Portland)
@Andy - Well said. As far as Congress, I believe nominees need to be tailored to their constituencies. As far as presidential nominees, I think it's important to look towards swing voters in swing states. Traditionally this group has been the main decider in elections.
°julia eden (garden state)
@J Jencks: that's how [s]cambridge analytica decided the outcome of the 2016 elections: "dark posts" via FB and other [a]social media, sent to 77,000 undecided, fearful, gullible folks in MI, WI, PA. and democrats the globe over are to be blamed for standing by, awestruck and incapacitated, while big money and big mouths on the far-right just divide and CON_quer the world ... unhinged and unhindered. BUT, as good things take time, bear with us, we'll have them back on track, before long.
Donna L Rosenberg (Tucson, AZ)
Finally some progress in my state! Congratulations to Krysten Sinema for a well run campaign. Unlike McSally whose campaign was disgraceful and full of lies. We are headed in the right direction.
Donna Payerle (Cleveland, OH)
At this point in America’s political chaos, all I see is another Democrat take a seat in the Senate. And this is a wonderful thing.
JCost (ME)
Every candidate who defeats the lie of "make america great again" is good news ... congratulations Krysten and Arizona...
Larry Eisenberg (Medford, MA.)
Kyrsten Sinema They say in Arizona Kyrsten’s now Senator They say she is a Centrist We’ll have to wait for more. Which side is she on? Which side is she on? Green once was Kirsten’s banner She shifted to the right Played ball with Trump associates Was not a pleasant sight. Which side is she on? Which side is she on? A Democratic pragmatist Takes on that name with pride I wonder if a pragmatist Just votes the winning side. Which side is she on? Which side is she on? My Daddy was a Democrat And I’m my Daddy’s Son I’ve always been a Democrat Whether we lost or won. Which side is she on? Which side is she on?
Barnaby Wild (Sedona, AZ)
@Larry Eisenberg Imagine a world with a majority of centrist politicians...just imagine. Kirsten is one.
Chuck Burton (Steilacoom, WA)
Although my personal views are quite left, why do we need to live in a country with two polarized "sides." All we have today is toxic gridlock and perpetual squabbling.
Mark (Tucson)
@Larry Eisenberg The side that just won - and in the end that's what counts. She ra a steady determined campaign in stark contrast to the ugly smear campaign of her Republican rival. Here in Az we're happy.
Wonderweenie (Phoenix)
McSally may be appointed to fill the seat for the next year but I predict she will lose in the 2020 election. Grant Woods who was an aide to John McCain and a former state attorney general switched parties to Democrat. He said he is running for the seat. Personally I doubt McSally aka McNasty as the AZ Republic has called her can beat Grant Woods. She may hold the seat for a year but I expect Grant Woods to beat her. Or yet another Republican could beat her in the primary. We shall see.
Sven Gall (Phoenix, AZ)
Phoenix and Tucson are home to thousands of illegal aliens that vote. Adrian Fontes is a Democrat and in charge of Arizona elections at the recorders office. Thousands of votes came in late after McSally was clearly in the lead. This seems to be the trend now with democrats. I mean how does an openly bi sexual women win over a fighter pilot that served our country with honors in a conservative state? You got it folks. Look to Broward County for answers. The new and old Democrat playbook. Sad.
Chuck Burton (Steilacoom, WA)
Republicans, the party of lies, innuendo, and character assassination. Since their policies harm the majority of the people in this country, what else do they have?
Kally Mavromatis (Akron, OH)
@Sven Gall Attributions, please? Otherwise these are more "conspiracy theories" that refuse to accept that people are angry at #45 and want a government to act as a check on his worst impulses.
J Jencks (Portland)
@Sven Gall - The parts of Phoenix and Tucson that have had been supporting DEM voters for a while now were also the last to have their votes tallied. So it's no surprise that the results shifted at the end. Unless you can provide hard evidence of criminal wrong-doing on the part of specific individuals, you are doing a dis-service to our democracy by libeling the keepers of its elections. Though registered Democrats are still outnumbered by registered Republicans in Maricopa County, there has been a huge upsurge in DEM registered voters, with 3 new registered Democrats for every 1 new Republican. Pima County also has a majority of DEMs. As in the case of a lot of "purple" states, the main urban areas host most of the DEMs. In the case of AZ, these were the last places to have their votes tallied. Here's a reference for AZ voter registrations, to support my statements above. https://azsos.gov/elections/voter-registration-historical-election-data/voter-registration-counts Please think twice about the damage you may be doing to our country by spreading your supported statements. I won't call them lies because you probably believe them. But I strongly encourage you to study the actual data, such as voter registration counts and the order in which votes were tallied, before making such serious accusations.
Barnaby Wild (Sedona, AZ)
True progress? Sinema won in Maricopa county...the same county that voted for Joe Arpaio! Centrists like Sinema collect Independent votes in Arizona. Both parties should remember that.
JCAZ (Arizona)
Ms. Sinema was the best choice for a changing Arizona. The Arizona Democratic party did a great job of getting voters out. As for Ms. McSally, I suspect she will somehow end up in Senator McCain’s old seat in 2020 (or before if Jon Kyl retires in January).
lhc (silver lode)
I'm cynical enough at age 74 to believe that most people just pull the lever of the party they've been brainwashed to favor. Seeing a Democrat (even a dubious one) win in Arizona brings a surprise and a bit of hope.
Barnaby Wild (Sedona, AZ)
@lhc In Arizona at least 33% are now Independent. Winning a modern election now requires 51% or more of the Independent voters.
Clint (Des Moines)
"in which she embraced solidly centrist positions". Hate to say it Michelle Goldberg, but I told you so. Democrats do the party no favors by running as unabashed idealists.
Mark Crozier (Free world)
@Clint I would agree with you in general but it also depends where they're running and who they're talking to.
J Jencks (Portland)
@Clint - As the old saying goes, "All politics is local." Ms Sinema is the right person for AZ. Ocasio-Cortez would not have been. On the other hand O-C is just right for her constituency as well. As the GOP retreats into the Far Right the DEMs need to broaden their "tent" to include more of the middle ground. Sinema can help with that. But that tent still needs to extend fairly far to the Left as well.
T Montoya (ABQ)
What an interesting experience, all the anticipation of election day and then a week of deep anticipation knowing that either 1) you lost and have to return to your normal routine, or 2) you won and will spend at least the next 6 years with hundreds of people treating you like minor royalty.
Mr Chang Shih An (Taiwan)
Flake was more of a Democrat than a Republican. He bent over backwards to side with Democrats.
Chuck Burton (Steilacoom, WA)
In rhetoric only. His votes were all conservative and sided with Trump even as he criticized him, such as Kavanaugh. I believe that you are reading right wing propaganda rather than observing the facts. Sinema's voting record will hold no resemblance to Flake's.
Kathy (USA)
Really? How does voting with Trump EVERY TIME equate to "siding with the Democrats?"
Mark Crozier (Free world)
@Mr Chang Shih An And yet he voted with Trump almost every time.
Newman1979 (Florida)
As long as she supports the Democrat leadership, civil rights for minorities, women rights, and most Democrat positions she will fit right in. But, it is early to be compromising with a party that want to be, and has proven to be, a one party rule.
Phyliss Dalmatian (Wichita, Kansas)
Congratulations. Just a few words of advice take it or leave it: Become best friends with several strong, hard working, intelligent Woman Senators, to be YOUR Mentors. Patty Murray, Tammy Duckworth, Amy Klobuchar, etc.. Do not allow the professional handlers and scammers to take over your life. Against all odds, YOU WON. Think about that when things are bleak. Seriously.
MIMA (heartsny)
Gabby Giffords - this must be a very happy day for you. We join you. Krysten Sinema stands for so many of us out here. Congratulations!
job1010 (NY)
Senator-elect Sinema did not say she had been bullied as a child. It does not appear in that link to the Advocate article. She grew up Mormon and went to BYU. The article probably deserves a correction. This was her quote in the Advocate article, “Growing up LGBT is often to be tried by fire and to wrestle with the fundamental question of who you are,” Sinema says. “Virtually all of us have faced bullying, discrimination, exclusion, or worse. When you grow up like this, working to find common ground with people you sometimes disagree with is all you’ve ever known. That’s why LGBT leaders are some of the hardest-working, most effective leaders you’ll find.”
Tonjo (Florida)
It is nice that Ms. Sinema won. Martha McSalley was a little too rough and too Trump like. Ms. Sinema who once lived in a empty gas station is to be commended.
Ted chyn (dfw)
Who is leading the Democrats? A leaderless party without unified policies positions running on against Trump, political correctness and open border for anyone will not prevail in general election.
Chuck Burton (Steilacoom, WA)
Such candidates are nothing but a figment of your imagination. There are no politicians advocating open borders.
Rick Chamness (Illinois)
No one in the Democratic Party supports open borders. Quit repeating the Trump lie.
J Jencks (Portland)
@Ted chyn - If you want to understand some of the wide ranging views embraced by the Democrats, I encourage you to read up on the several winners of the recent election, especially those who won seats previously held by the GOP. If you haven't done that already then I believe you have no real, substantial basis for the opinion you expressed.
ImmigrantCitizenDude (San Francisco )
More power to Ms. Kyrsten Sinema in the US Senate and the beautiful state of Arizona.
Doctor Woo (Orange, NJ)
She offers Manchin of West Virginia as a role model .... forget it .. you can keep her
HL (AZ)
@Doctor Woo So wrong headed. She would have voted against Kavanaugh and voted against dismantling the ACA. A Democratic majority in the Senate means control of committees investigations and consent on Federal Judges and cabinet members. If you don't think that matters you haven't learned anything about how our Republic actually works.
Madeline Farran (Brooklyn, New York)
Dr. Woo- Sinema may not be as liberal as you and I would like, but she's got a (D) after her name and in this" Age of Trump"that's good enough for me!
Doctor Woo (Orange, NJ)
@HL**** Manchin voted for Kavanaugh, so how do you know how she would have voted? .. get your facts straight before calling me wrong headed. Why is she a Democrat because she believes in abortion rights? It's stated here she sided with Trump many times. Just more Republican lite.
Pensees (USA)
A bit of light at the end of a long tunnel..
Patsy (Arizona)
This is very exciting to watch my state turn blueish. I hope Sinema evolves her positions and votes for progressive issues that help the most of us instead of just helping the super rich become richer. I hope she believes in human caused Global Warming. I hope she joins the Dems in stopping our president from ruining this country. Thank you Arizona voters!
paul (NJ)
uh, but wait, I'm confused..according to Bernie, running a moderate platform, and appealing to moderate Republicans is a recipe for losing, right? Beto O'Rourke, Stacy Abrahms and Andrew Gillum, are you listening?
Geraldine (Sag Harbor, NY)
@paul You can't negotiate with fascists. Moderate is no way to approach a negotiating table- you always ask for way more and settle for less than you started. If you start in the middle, why would your opponent give up anything more? The dems can keep their "hyper-woke" far left identity politics garbage to themselves, it's all just a circus sideshow but we need to be left of left on worker's rights, minimum wage, and healthcare to defend the working class from this fascist onslaught. Working for a living is what we all have in common no matter what color, creed, or sexual orientation!
Andy (Salt Lake City, Utah)
@paul "running a moderate platform, and appealing to moderate Republicans is a recipe for losing, right?" In Vermont, yes. In a nationwide election, yes. In Arizona, no. You might also notice the margin for victory was shockingly thin. O'Rourke, Abrahms, and Gillum are all within the margin for error too. Your point is far from conclusive. Bredesen lost for example. Moreover, I would argue progressive enthusiasm helped carry relatively boring moderates over the top even when the progressive lost their own seat. The down ballot impact of exciting candidates can't be dismissed. I wonder what percentage of Sinema's voters split their ticket.
C.B. Evans (Middle-earth)
Every political candidate that wins a close election should, as Senator-elect Sinema has done, vow to work toward compromise and solutions that reflect the split nature of the electorate. One of the most odious spectacles of recent decades is the idiotic post-election declaration by candidates that "the people of X have spoken." With such declarations, all too many roll into Washington or statehouses aggressively pursuing a highly partisan agenda, never mind that they may have won 51 percent or less of the votes.
Geraldine (Sag Harbor, NY)
@C.B. Evans Didn't Obama naively try that? Where did it get him? You can't negotiate with terrorists. You need to crush them first and negotiate from a position of power.
Fred (Bayside)
Many have commented approvingly of McSally's graceful concession. I would say it's easy when you know you're going to be appointed to the other seat anyway.
HL (AZ)
@Fred This is good news for AZ Democrats. She was a terrible candidate. Sinema provided a blue print to beat her. It sets up well for the democrats to pick up both seats if McSally is the candidate for McCain's seat.
Jeffrey (Michgan)
Really getting sick of all of the talking heads on TV this morning drooling over Martha McSally's "graciousness." Hmmm...wasn't she talking about the dreaded "caravan" just 10 days ago? She's merely another Trump sycophant...glad she lost.