11 Hoyt - Hong Kong, Tokyo - cram them in.
Love Jeanne Gang!! Her residential skyscraper in Chicago similar to this one is a masterpiece. So excited to have some real design in the glut of new high rises for downtown Bklyn. Go Jeanne!!!
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New York has, and always will be, the capital of money. No one is surprised at this latest example of richy rich blah.
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This is just what NYC needs-apartments for more millionaires.
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@David J. Krupp Well yes, a million dollars isn't enough to afford a condo in Manhattan. So these are definitely needed.
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11 Hoyt - Residential building
Completing: 2020
Location: Downtown Brooklyn
Architectural style: Punch Card Revival.
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Doesn't look half bad. And they didn't tear anything beautiful down to build it. Bravo.
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Well, I think the building looks nice and has an interesting design. I think it will be a nice addition to the skyline and an urban area on top of many subway lines is an appropriate place to construct a large condo building.
The prices seem ambitious, on a par with new buildings on the Upper West Side or even downtown Manhattan. I would expect some price cuts to be forthcoming, but then again the building has two years or so before it opens. I could picture some significant discounting in 2020, when it could be faced with hundreds of unsold units at these prices.
The subways are very crowded in that area, I'll agree with the other readers on that point. I have generally been able to board rush hour morning trains at the nearby stations without much problem - the trains are generally standing room only, and sometimes you have to wait for a train or two to pass before you can board, but that's similar to what I've experienced trying to board the morning rush hour city-bound trains in central and western Queens, which is also undergoing a building boom.
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These so called modern looking buildings are ruining the traditional NYC skyline. These pencil thin structures are so out of place in the skyline that we know as NYC as well as being ugly and financially out of reach for anyone desiring to live in Manhattan and its surrounding Burroughs that are ‘close in’. What was once the melting pot of the world this is no longer the case. What appears as diversity occurs largely during working hours. The rest of the time it is largely home to the wealthy elite or those that share closet like space at exorbitant rents.
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There are several trains passing through those areas but by the time they arrive heading to Manhattan they are already packed. The closest station is Hoyt Street on the #s 2 and 3 trains. That area is already saturated with new high rise buildings such as at City Point where the old Albee Square Mall was located. Then over hat Schermerhorn Street where the old DMV used to be, and over at Fulton Street and Flatbush Ave ext. And more four more high rises starting at Mytle Ave & Flatbush going north toward Tilllary Street. I assume some of these tenants will have kids who need schools to attend to.
The city might have to build more schools because the ones in the area seem to be packed. In the mean time no affordable housing is being built. No one I know can afford those prices mentioned in the article. That area should have remained commercial for businesses not for residential quarters. There is really no sense of neighborhood in that area. Late at night everything is closed down. It's not like in Manhattan where there's a nightlife.
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@Wayne
I disagree. Manhattan is even more overpriced and not all people want to live in those old four and six family buildings like I lived in as a boy in Bushwick/Wykoff Heights. New construction This new construction will attract people with the money to spend and they don't need all the junkie commercial establishments. On my street were sewing shops, a nut and bolt distributor and label lithographers. The trucks loading and unloading made it like we were living in an industrial park. Entertainment and eating establishments will follow these people. Older attractions like Prospect Park and the Botanical Gardens aren't that far away. My mother would walk us to both from Knickerbocker and Stanhope on nice days. Manhattan is a few train stops away or a short bike ride.
Manhattan doesn't have to be the center of everyone's world.
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@NYHUGUENOT I'm not saying Manhattan has to be the center of everyone's universe. I'm saying that area has no nightlife. What's the point living there if you got all that money? And most of the people living there will have jobs in Manhattan and not in Brooklyn.
Your old neighborhood of Bushwick is now unaffordable for many due to gentrification. You say the new tenants in this building in the article will bring more revenue and there will be more amenities. Well over on Myrtle Ave they knocked down an Associated Supermarket across the street from the Ingersoll Houses (NYCHA). They put up some high rises on either side and a small supermarket at either end but people still living in the area from years ago said they can't afford those supermarkets. They are waiting for one to be built at the Brooklyn Navy Yard by Flushing Ave & Navy Street which is currently under construction.
What about the schools for those kid in those new buildings to attend? I live around the area so I know it well. There are only so many schools in the area. Unless the city buses them to other areas of the city.
Sounds like you grew up in an area with small business people. That's what built communities. Now the rents are sky high. Starbucks all over the place. Expensive coffee. Is that why you are now living down in Charlotte, North Carolina? Sorry but I had to laugh. One of the city council members here said a lady who was her constituent told her that she now lives in NC due to gentrification.
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Why are all these new towers loaded with "common areas"? It's because there's nothing left to do or see outside. With a ripoff supermarket, a ripoff dry cleaners and a Rite Aid invariably located near one of these structures, they become islands unto themselves. Everyone who actually made life in NYC interesting has been driven out, to be replaced by these pod-people whose eyes light up at the mere mention of a "yoga room".
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@stan continople So, what era would you like to go back to? The 90s when 2,000 people were being murdered per year? The 70s when the Bronx was burning? Or, lets go back to when people crammed into tenements and had boarders living in their kitchens? Which was the most "interesting" to you? Sincerely, a fourth-generation New Yorker who gets that cities change and, generally, for the better
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Mayor Bloomberg for president (2020) said rezoning would bring affordable housing to Downtown Brooklyn........still waiting.
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Don’t worry guys. These tenants aren’t taking the subway.
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I live on a nearby townhouse street. Actually, a lot of businesses (mainly creative or tech) have moved to Brooklyn. I work in Dumbo. Most people who work in Dumbo live in Brooklyn. A lot of businesses are moving to gowanus and industry city, as well.
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Everyone want to live in Brooklyn so everyone else will there too.
Why is the building so ugly. Can’t we build beautiful buildings anymore.
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All these structures are basically glorified warehouses. Every square inch has been tortured for maximum ROI, requiring the same calculations used for storing canned peas. America's crass commercial culture churns out young, wealthy, philistine rubes by the bushel. They don't know and they don't care that they're living in an upended shipping container as long as all their surfaces are sourced from exotic materials, flat, shiny and unadorned. Ornament just confuses their artless brains and the architects are cut from the same cloth.
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How To Destroy Brooklyn
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I suspect there is a correlation between the crumbling subway stations (today the Barclays subway ceiling collapse, summertime Borough Hall ceiling collapse) and the added stress of these buildings on top of them. Drilling, digging, increased weight on them...the structure of these subway stations appear to be falling apart.
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The city should require that the developers of buildings over a certain size should make a contribution--either one lump sum or annually--to the MTA to cover the cost of improving and maintaining public transport. The entire system is already on the brink of collapse. This should be part of the cost of doing business in NYC.
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@Stephen-Exactly...West Brooklyn from Greenpoint to downtown is now looking like downtown or midtown Manhattan without all the subway options Manhattan has.
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@Paul That's why De Blasio, at the behest of his developer overlords was promoting the "streetcar to nowhere", that would run along the stretch you mentioned, while doing absolutely nothing to alleviate the problem of getting into Manhattan. It was basically a billion dollar "amenity", designed to get nannies to their posts more easily from Queens. Now, it has been announced that Federal funding will be required, and guess who the Executive Director of the project is? Chuck Schumer's daughter. Nice huh?
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"with incredible transportation options"
Anyone who believes that lie it's in for a surprise at rush hour. trains going into Manhattan mornings will be packed. no one wants to talk about what this increase in high rises is doing to the already weak infrastructure. these developers are destroying Brooklyn and New York City. no one even wants these hideous, hideously tall buildings. walls in the shower blocking the view.
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@not so fast money I remember, growing up in Brooklyn, when the tallest building was at 1 Hanson Place that we referred to as the big clocks. If you were lost you could always look up at the big clocks and find your way back home. These buildings are all cluttered in a small area. Contrast that to San Francisco where they limit the heights of their residential buildings making the city mostly unaffordable for regular folks.
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@not so fast money The trains going into Manhattan are packed because people have gotten on them in parts of faraway southern Brooklyn and have already been on the train (and maybe a bus before that) for half an hour or more before it reaches downtown Brooklyn.
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"There are 11 subway lines within a five-minute walk from the building."
They may be overcrowded and falling apart, but that's O.K. I'll take one studio (aka a "closet") and one of those four bedroom jobs. Where do I sign?
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"There are 11 subway lines within a five-minute walk from the building."
Yet I still question whether the subway system is currently capable of handling the steady influx of thousands more people into downtown. It can barely handle the area's current residents.
That being said, this area is pretty grimy, so new buildings - even if the are oversized and aimed at wealthy clientele - should help clean things up a bit.
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