With Weddings in Cyprus, Israelis and Lebanese Bridge a Divide

Jul 18, 2018 · 19 comments
Joshua Schwartz (Ramat-Gan, Israel)
Many of those Israelis who come to Cyprus to get married do so also because they cannot prove that they are Jewish and the rabbinate obviously only marries Jews. Often they are indeed not Jewish, but have lived as such. In the old days, nobody really checked too much. You said you were Jewish, had some witnesses who attested to this and that satisfied the rabbinate. After World War II, for instance, very few questions were asked. Later on, for example, the late famous Gen. Rafael Eitan may not have been Jewish because there were questions about his mother's Jewishness. He was not the only one. When waves of Eastern European Jews and Russian Jews came to Israel, many could not prove they were Jewish and, once again many were not. They may not have even known this. The problem is not civil marriage or non-Orthodox marriage in Israel, but rather having these marriages recognized by the Israeli Ministry of the Interior. Ironically, secular and non-Orthodox marriages in the Diaspora are recognized. Logic? Not much.
Ernest Montague (Oakland, CA)
I wish that someone had mentioned that this takes place in South, Greek controlled Cyprus, not North, Turkish controlled Cyprus, where those mixed weddings would be treated quite differently. In Turkey foreigners marrying must meet Turkish paperwork, including a notarized certificate of celibacy.
Peter (NYC)
Cyprus has become the Vegas of middle east marriage, minus the fake Elvis impersonator
Frank Savage (NYC)
It is not correct that marriage is expensive in Israel as article states. It could be had for a fraction of a cost of what it takes to fly outside of the country. The Israeli couples who fly to Cyprus to marry do not do so for the financial consideration. They do so because they do not want to have a kosher marriage. Mind you, the children of such a union might not be considered Jewish any longer. These couples settle for a civil marriage instead. In that case, one can marry in Vegas, or Cyprus, or wherever.
Curlytop (Pittsburgh)
Or, because they don't like the Rabbanut, not because they don't want a legitimate Jewish marriage.
JerryV (NYC)
@Frank Savage, What utter nonsense to declare that Jewish couples who marry in a non-Orthodox ceremony have a "non-kosher" marriage. This has nothing to do with the requirements of the Hebrew Bible. For precedent, look, for instance at the Book of Ruth, where Naomi is to marry Boaz and declares herself to Ruth and her Hebrew religion as, "For wherever you go, I will go. Wherever you lodge, I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God my God. Where you die, I will die; and there will I be buried…" . It is sad that the ultra-Orthodox establishment in Israel has a government supported stranglehold on religious matters such as conversion and marriage. It relates simply to the ultra-Orthodox community giving their votes to the current government in return for financial support by the government. Indeed, it has more to do with Mafia-like behavior of both parties than to kosher vs. non-kosher.
Frank Savage (NYC)
@Curlytop the law is the law, what is it to not like about the Rabanut? It’s like not liking a county clerk processing the paperwork that’s how absurd it sounds. The Jewish law only permits marriages among the Jewish people so if one party is not Jewish the marriage cannot take place until that party undergoes a conversion. Is that too much to ask from the love of your life? Or go to Cyprus or Vegas or wherever and have a civil marriage. But it will not be a marriage according to a Jewish law.
Steph (Piedmont)
Interesting wedding comments.
NYCSandi (NYC)
New Middle East peace plan: have only couples waiting to be married in Lebanon negotiate. For the sake of their future children they will do a much better job than diplomats....
Dosar (Gaff)
Let's ban all religions and start that process from the Mid-East. Ban Islam, Christianity and Judaism. Promise you readers all that the planet will be a better place. Good example is my country Iran and its people. Old regime was not religious and welcomed every sect, group and freedom of religion throughout the country. As soon as the religious people took over, they started hatred and propaganda against anyone and anything which was slightly modern and pro-democracy and non-compliant with their 1400 years old backward methods. Just ask how many young Iranians have died in numerous wars since the so called Islamic Republic took over, how many young Iranians have left home country searching for freedom and a decent living. It is so sad. Ban all religion now!
JerryV (NYC)
@Dosar, Before you ban all religions, please note that we have a First Amendment that ALLOWS all religions. If you are opposed to this Amendment, then either try to legally change this amendment or simply leave our country.
pollyb1 (san francisco)
The bride in the fourth picture is already on her cell phone.
Dfkinjer (Jerusalem)
@pollyb1 Wow! Some people are so judgmental. Maybe she is sending the picture from the wedding to her parents.
Rosalie Lieberman (Chicago, IL)
Isn't it ridiculous that socializing between the "enemy" citizens is considered a crime in Lebanon? Lebanon once had a small but stable Jewish community that was destroyed many years ago. My brother in law had a Lebanese friend, who studied in England, who went back in the early 70s for a Jewish holiday and was never seen or heard from again. The Jewish school tried to get hold of the family, to no avail. Unfortunately, I think we know what happened.
Frank Savage (NYC)
Sorry, this post is a bit confusing. A Lebanese friend went back for a Jewish holiday? Back to Lebanon? So was he Jewish or just celebrating the Jewish holidays?
Rosalie Lieberman (Chicago, IL)
@Frank Savage His family lived in Lebanon; all were born there. My brother in law was about 20 when this happened. Yes, his friend returned for the Jewish holidays, probably for Sukkot. Nobody answered the phone, letters went unanswered. Never heard from again.
Birdygirl (CA)
Having lived and worked in the Eastern Mediterranean and meeting mixed couples, one couple in particular who were Israeli and Palestinian, I find this article to be one of the most interesting and uplifting pieces I've read in a while. Cyprus is a beautiful island, with its own contentious history, but it has great archaeology, beaches, and fantastic food, and it's affordable, so why not offer it as a haven for getting married? It's a great solution for those who don't fit the mold of traditional marriages. Incidentally, like everywhere else, weddings in Israel have become outlandishly expensive, so Cyprus offers a wonderful alternative to that scenario for those who don't want a lavish wedding or for those who can't afford it.
JerryV (NYC)
I wish all of these couples well and hope that they can contribute to mutual understanding and peace in the Middle East. One of the things not mentioned in this article is that weddings (and conversions) in Israel are controlled by Orthodox Rabbis and that religious ceremonies performed by Conservative or Reform Rabbis (even between Jews) are not accepted. This monopoly is a shandah (shame)!
Joshua Schwartz (Ramat-Gan, Israel)
@JerryV To JerryV And one of the reasons for that is that a lot of Conservative and Reform Jews complain about this from the Diaspora instead of becoming Israelis and changing the system through the ballot box. Everything is politics. Complain from Tel-Aviv and then do something about it.Those who control have the political power. What is a shandah, Sir, is kvetching and doing nothing.