Trump has NO moral boundaries!
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Gun laws are more important than booting out immigrants. The NRA needs to die a painful death. They have shot themselves in the gut. Americans want gun control for ALL. No one at any age needs a weapon of war.. unless he means a mass shooting!
Trump is kissing the NRA for a payoff. Down with Trump and the sinful Republican Congress.
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How many are on still welfare 20+ years later, along with numerous relatives? There are nearly 1 million TPS immigrants now here illegally, who chose over the decades not to apply to change their status.
Cherry picking a few self-reliant is disingenuous, and the NYT knows it, fueling the distrust of the news media and serving no purpose other than to roil the fringe left base that doesn't want to fix our broken borders and enforce laws. Most Americans are beyond disgusted with the devious arrogance of illegals who feel entitled to thumb their nose at the U.S. and Americans who generously handed them money in their time of need - as well as to their native country - then provide hospitality for *temporary* disaster shelter.
Temporary immigrants know the rules of the road. They are provided this from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services:
"TPS is a temporary benefit that does not lead to lawful permanent resident status or give any other immigration status. However, registration for TPS does not prevent you from:
Applying for nonimmigrant status;
Filing for adjustment of status based on an immigrant petition;
Applying for any other immigration benefit or protection for which you may be eligible."
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Why, why does one of the richest countries in the world have to do this? trump and his supporters call themselves Christians, yet this is the most unchristian of acts.
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Perhaps if they were white, highly educated and contributed to Trump's campaign their status would be different.
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This is what fascism looks like, what ethic cleansing looks like, but under a legalistic guise. Immigrants have built this country--there is no American whose family at some point wasn't a family of immigrants. It's what made America unique in a wold rife with ethnic and religious hatreds. Our diversity is a strength and not a disadvantage--it's what made the American economy globally dominant. These mean-spirited and racially motivated policies bode ill for our future.
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Why is it that perfectly healthy young men and women insist on escaping their countries to get to the US? Why don't they stand and make their own countries better? Your country is in a civil war? Why don't you fight to get your country back?
With millenials the exception to the rule (anyone with kids today knows they'd sell their sister down the river for 5 free minutes of mobile phone time), I'd like to think that most of us would stay in the US and fight to make our country a better place rather than escape to another country if the bad stuff ever hit the fan.
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Unless you are a California Redwood, 19 years is not temporary.
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So after almost twenty years, Trump is going to kick these people out. He grows more offensive by the day.
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US taxpayers owe these people who are economic interlopers absolutely nothing. Anyone deemed in our country illegally should be promptly deported. Not our problem nor should it be. Tired of these immigrant issues separating our populace and the resulting election of T. If these things don't get settled or our immigration policies updated for the 21st century I'm afraid we will have more GOP. So keep taking in more 'caravans' and promoting illegal aliens. Great idea.
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She earned a green card and immigrant status, after entering through an H1B proviso that added international models as being eligible for such a visa. In 2006, she became a citizen. All quite legal and above board, easily located if you bothered to research it before your post.
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A promising future for the U.S. is proportional to the size of the human population. Fewer people translates to a brighter future. More people and the future is dim.
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The whining is absolutely deafening. "it's too short" "it's unfair" "these are hardworking people" blah blah blah. The TPS is a temporary program. What we should do is 1) boot these and all other TPS recipients starting in September 2018 and 2) cancel the program for ALL future disasters. Because liberals take this as another opportunity to subvert immigration rules.
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Hard working Hondurans contributing to our economy, their families welfare (here and back home), and bettering our society should be welcome. What does it cost a US citizen to keep them here? Yes they take jobs but I would argue that many of those jobs are not desired by our citizens. When is the last time you saw a white male roofing a house? If they are kicked out then we must prepare for increased costs to attract workers to replace them.
Do people realize how much money the US government spends on anti drug enforcement in Honduras? San Pedro Sulu is the drug capital of Central America. If these people have to move back it will only be a matter of time before the country has bigger problems.
Cost of letting them stay is zero. Cost of kicking them out is expensive. A beautiful country and warm hearted people. Let them stay.
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Trump cheated on his taxes, these people paid taxes and contribute to our country. There has to be a way to help. In God we trust that we will always do the right thing.
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Sorry many of the posters here harp on and on about the 'temporary' basis of these people's status. It's al about the legalese, they say.
You know what? I don't believe them. The issue is one of permanency. These refugees are permanently brown, and the anti-immigrant faction in this country can't stand them for that fact.
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Let’s see. They have, no doubt, been sending remittances home (yes, “home”) for twenty years, so they will be greeted with open arms. They have had the benefit of superior education, healthcare, and work environment, so that will give them a dramatic leg up as they out-compete the locals. Oh, and there will be more room in the US lifeboat for those fleeing natural disasters and such.
Win-Win.
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There are many 1,000's of our older, retired citizens going to live full time in Central America. Can't be all that bad.
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There are billions of people around the world who need help from the USA. For twenty years we have helped these people by allowing them to live and work in the United States legally. Now it is their turn to return to their countries and help the people they left behind. It is time for them to pass it on. The problem is not the people who don't want to go home. I don't blame them. The problem is the Americans who want to help and take care of everyone. They behave like the people who bring home a hundred stray cats to an apartment and fight against local health inspectors enforcing the law. They behave like people who give their children money to buy drugs because they can't stand to see them unhappy. These people aren't wild animals or drug addicts. They are people with the right and obligation to fix their societies. When they build Honduras into a wealthy and democratic society they will thank us.
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These Hondurans and others are about as temporary as a tattoo.
Very hard, if not impossible, to remove them too.
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TPS. The T stands for temporary. What's so hard to understand? Article states these Honduran immigrants contribute to America's economy. How? They take jobs from Americans, drive down wages, and send much of their earnings back to Honduras. How does that benefit the American economy?
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In the future people displaced by bad weather conditions should be sheltered in their homelands and put to work repairing the damage. Bringing them here causes them to misunderstand the terms under which they were allowed to come. One of the problems in getting Puerto Rico cleaned up is the shortage of employable laborers because so many abandoned the island for New York and Florida. Much of the work there is clean up which doesn't require a lot of skilled workers. How many skilled workers employed by the utilities companies abandoned their jobs when they should have been working to restore power and water?
Kudos to the administration for finally putting a stop to this farce calling itself "temporary". Of course these countries keep asking for extensions. Why would they want these people back when they are sending so much money home from their jobs in the US?
People. It's your country. Go home and fight for it.
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Why doesn't their country want them? I don't understand that. Many of these interviewed are educated hard working people, so why does Honduras balk at taking back people who would contribute to their society? What am I missing? Yes this is a temporary plan, but one must blame previous administrations for failing to re-assess or act. With so many people fleeing these countries for both political and economic reasons, there will be few left to press these countries for change, and the cycle will continue. One can debate what to do with refugees here under the protected status, but we need rational immigration reform and to start enforcing the laws that do exist.
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“I did everything right: I worked hard, started a company, had two children and made investments here,” said Samuel Contreras, a licensed contractor on Long Island who arrived in 1998, shortly after Hurricane Mitch struck Honduras. “The bank approved a $300,000 mortgage because I have good credit and income. Now I don’t know what will happen.” Have you ever thought of applying for a visa, citizenship or the more than 10 ways you could become a U.S. citizen? I guess priority was to make money and invest assuming that the protection afforded to those in need will result under Democrats into an automatic citizenship. Sure your priorities were astray due to the liberal agenda. How is that working out for you now!
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How does what he did suddenly become a liberal agenda? You have zero facts about whether he applied for citizenship, visas or anything else. It's like saying the conservative agenda is to have unprotected sex and payoffs with porn stars and by the way how's that working out?
This occurs to be more animated by hate, trolling and tribalism than anything. The pro-deportation comments seem to confirm this.
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That “T” in TPS is for temporary. Start packing amigos. This is long overdue!
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IT may sound cruel and harsh,etc but in reality TRump is sending a CLEAR unmistakable message to would be immigrants...America doesn't want or need derelicts,losers,or those who can't hack it in their own miserable places of abode! This writer believes MOST Americans will lose NO sleep over this !
The US MUST stop these hordes, caravans whoever jumping the borders there is NO more room, jobs,welfare,etc available via the taxpayers...the time has come to finally put the American people FIRST that's WHY they elected Trump and he is keeping his campaign promises despite democratic and all the other interferences !
To make America great again ALL those who came under some form of subterfuge which is really what it was and still is MUST be kicked out and the US returned to it's rightfull owners the American LEGAL people !
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Trump's right on this one.
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TEMPORARY PROTECTED STATUS (TPS):
HALF RETURN TO HOMELANDS,
HALF STAY IN THE USA?
TPS is a form of asylum for foreign nationals
who found themselves in the USA
when something bad happened in their homelands
---hurricanes, earthquakes, armed conflict, etc.
They were allowed to stay in America
until the conditions in their homelands substantially improved.
All 300,000 are already registered with the U.S. government.
(Contrast the 11.3 million foreign nationals in the USA
WITHOUT permission and WITHOUT any registration
such as green cards or DACA.)
Many of these citizens of other countries
have been living in America for several years.
They have Social Security Numbers.
They have legitimate employment and they pay taxes.
Many have American-born children.
When the original conditions in the homelands
that led to the Temporary Protected Status
have substantially changed,
then TPS should be reviewed:
(1) Some should return to their native lands,
where they can create good lives for themselves.
(2) Some have such deep roots in America
---such as having children who are U.S. citizens---
that they should be permitted to stay
and probably become American citizens.
People here on a temporary basis had no business putting down roots in the US. Their roots are in their own countries. If they felt the need to belong to something, to marry or start a business they should have returned home to satisfy those desires.
It's long passed time the word "temporary" was defined for them and those who would maintain their ruse to circumvent US laws.
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I venture to say that the vast majority people that trump wants out of this country have worked hard, paid taxes and contributed more to improve America than the majority of bigoted white Americans sitting around collecting public assistance. We are better than what trump is doing to our country.
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"...Security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, said she had determined that conditions have improved sufficiently in Honduras to warrant suspension..." Perhaps hurricane damage has been repaired, but the Honduran social fabric is lawless. These people, returning, face financial and/or life threatening oblivion.
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In answer to the question the Honduran contractor who is being sent back is asking himself about what he's going to do, well, with the knowledge and experience of what a functional country is, you are going to go back and help fix the one you came from. The idea that people should just run away rather than fix their own societies is so problematic, not only for us as the recipients, but for the countries that are left to fester in crime and failure.
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I'm embarrassed to be an American. To all the immigrants (like my family was!!!), I apologize for Trump and this new exclusionary policy. I do not agree.
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Temporary means Temporary So time to end it. I agree with Trump.
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Why is it that we conflate legal immigration, illegal immigration, and refugee programs as all the same. The groups listed in article are here on a "temporary" status. Many have been here for nearly two decades and have benefited from the program while failing to apply for US citizenship... two decades... So now the program has come under review and we are expected to be upset... Nope. If you have nearly 20 years to gain citizenship and you do not... then you put yourself at risk.
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They knew they were here as guests. They knew it was temporary. There is no basis for whining. If they wish to take their American born children with them, thats fine, if they dont wish to, they can have legal guardians to watch them here. If they wish to immigrate, they should get in line with all the other deserving people. If they have been even moderately successful here. They will likely be elites in the countries they are citizens of and avoid bad neighborhoods. I've been to Honduras several times on missionary work in the past 20 years. Most of the country is far safer than the south side of Chicago. Obviously most don't like their native country and don't want to live there. Unfortunately, there are many that feel that way. We can't accommodate them all. That's why we have immigration laws. There will be sad stories of deportations, families may be split. But the law must be consistent to all equally. Sad stories should not be a factor. Everyone here illegally, other than kids whose parents lied to them, knows they are here illegally and should be well aware of the consequences. Those here temporarily as guests for almost 20 years knew they were guests. I feel sorry they don't want to go home. But that's what guests have to do!
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Please answer this question; If all these people should "go home and make it better", as some commenters state, why don't conservative missionaries just stay here - like the "south side of Chicago" you seem to be familiar with, and make things better in the good old USA? Why the need to do mission work in such far-flung places, when they are already better off and safer than the south side of Chicago?
They’re going to come to Canada like the Haitians have. The US does nothing to stop them and Trudeau is completely out to lunch.
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Maybe you can pass them on to the Russians?
We tell them to get out where they go is not our concern.
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Yay Canada! You go and take them ALL in like we have for decades now.
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The article highlights successful Hondurans. Just how many of the 500,000 Hondurans and their American born children and grandchildren receive welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, free health care, free education, social services... And then there’s the cost of incarceration. All at the cost to American tax payers. Temporary. It should have meant 2 or 3 years. That needs to be changed.
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"Temporary. It should have meant 2 or 3 years. That needs to be changed."
Even better we can make it possible for them to stay in their homeland and participate in the clean up.
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Today's monthly employment report for the month of April showed a marked drop in the available workforce for our country. To deport these Hondurans after they have established themselves in a most productive manner and assisting our economy to continue growing just makes no sense to me. Our government made the mistake of allowing this to go on for so long, now Trump wants to bring it to an end regardless of who gets hurt --- and in this case, everyone gets hurt.
I believe that these folks deserve an amnesty and from here on out, if the program is supposed to be temporary, make it so. Don't let these people come and stay here for a decade or more only to uproot them and destroy their lives.
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The statement about his $300K mortgage and good credit has me thinking...Take out the biggest second mortgage you can, take on as much unsecured debt as possible, liquidate your assets, lease the most expensive car they'll approve you for and drive south to a comfortable retirement in Honduras where the cost of living is negligible and your lenders can't find you.
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The lenders deserve to get burned.
What kind of illogical person lends such sums to a person without permanent status in the US?
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There is not a legal need or moral reason to end what is a humanitarian program. They have lived here legally for 18 years and it is inhumane to ask them to leave. Once again the president is showing us who he is while people's lives are upended.
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I fear as we near the mid-terms trump's reign of cruelty will reach a fever pitch as he caters to an angry group of supporters by scaring the bejesus out of them, and appealing to their worst instincts. Hopefully large numbers of Americans will ignore his pathological lying and choose not to reward his disgusting behavior.
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Homeowner allowing backyard squatter full free access over 20 year period can’t suddenly legally demand eviction.
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I would challenge Kirstjen Nielsen to spend one week in Tegucigalpa without a security detail and not just hide in a locked hotel room ordering room service. Then she can more realistically assess whether "conditions have improved sufficiently in Honduras". Denying this poor country the remittances provided by those thousands living, working and adding to the economy here in the US will only make conditions worse in that country.
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There is a malevolence at work in these decisions that flies in the face of values - civic and religious - claimed by Trump supporters. Trump's presidency is so flawed and devalued by these cruel decisions, based on an ideology without empathy.
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I have a suggestion: why don’t we eliminate the ugly part of this process and just open the borders to whomever wants to come, of course the US will pay the fare. Give them citizenship in 90 days, because it’s quite likely they’ll want to stay and we can’t keep track of 10 million here without permission. In 50 years we’ll review this policy but by then it will probably be moot because the United States will have either split into several countries or collapsed under the weight of too many laborers and not enough labor.
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We all agree that TPS was meant to "TEMPORARILY" aid folks affected by natural disasters. So now almost 20 long years later it is still controversial to end this program?
Don't get me wrong, it will tough on families and individuals involved but they did know it was a temporary status right. If not how do we expect to help victims of future natural disasters. Will congress be able to say due to an earth quake in country X we will be giving citizenship to 100k immigrants for example. It will never pass. So don't take the TPS program away from future disaster victims.
There is a catch22 logic here. End it too soon, then it is inhumane because conditions are still not safe. End after 20 years, it is inhumane because the lives will be disturbed. So when should the temporary status end. If it was never meant to be temporary then shame on being not truthful about this program.
At some point immigration laws should be treated like laws and not keep bending them because someone doesn't like it. If they need to be changed let us follow the congressional debate to change them including increasing levels of legal immigration. No modern country can look after the welfare of its citizens with no control of its borders and enforcing its laws. Otherwise USA will become the very same country from which folks are fleeing.
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This is a far more difficult issue than this article admits. On the one hand, those who came and wish to remain deserve our sympathy. But there is more to it that that. The TPS is just that, temporary, and the people who remain are violating the letter as well as the intent of the program.
The question is: should we, in the interests of being a humane people, allow them to stay? It is not that simple. If we allow the best and the brightest to remain in the US, who will be left in the Honduras to work towards fixing the country? Honduras needs them, if the country is to rid itself of the gangs and violence that give it one of the world's highest murder rates. We have to consider the possibility that when we consider the big picture, we are doing the world more harm than good by enabling large scale illegal immigration.
I don't know the answer, but the Times should consider sending a reporting team to the countries being discussed, and try to present to its readership with as many aspects as possible concerning the complex world in which we live.
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The xenophobia disguised as “law and order” exposes a sad ignorance that runs deep across a segment of our population, many of whom would not be here but for immigration of their poor uneducated ancestors (how many are 2nd and 3rd generation?). Where there are social and economic issues due to immigration, these should be discussed with truth. What we find, however are anti-immigration arguments that are untrue, small minded, and ultimately self-harming. Already communities across the US are realizing the harm of deporting whole segments of a population who serve them, pick their food, take care of their children, own businesses, and are raising families here. The sad irony is many of claim the mantle of Christ. Those whom understand the true ideal of a Nation built on immigrant labor and strength, will not be deterred by the stunted perspective currently on display..
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it appears that subsequent administrations didn't change the policy because they didn't have the heart to. The US welcomed them and they've made lives here. This administration does not have heart.
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So what about the Nepalese and Haitians that have been asked to leave? Are they just obediently lining up to depart? Have they no convenient excuse to grasp for why they should stay? The T.P.S. program is more than about protecting Central Americans; I hope the 'Times' covers what is happening with some of these other nationalities too!
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Twenty years is a long time for temporary status. Shame on politicians for letting temporary status drag on for twenty years.
Temporary has a specific meaning in the english language, and is the opposite of permanent.
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If they are here and behaving themselves let them stay and work toward full legalization and eventual citizenship.
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I teach English as a second language to adults in a rural Maryland community. Seventy-five percent of my students are from Honduras. One-hundred percent of them have jobs, pay taxes, and have families here. Some own their own homes. All of them tell the same story of violence and lives of fear in their homeland. They are productive residents of this country. I ask you, if we are operating at full employment, who is going to do their work? Already, there are no crab pickers because of the change in how the H1B visas were distributed this year. Wait until harvest time. Who will pick the tomatoes, corn, and other produce? This is an unfolding, heartless disaster made by a hate filled administration.
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If the crab industry wants to attract pickers, they need to offer livable wages on which a citizen can support a family. If your livelihood depends on your paying below-market wages, you had better start buying robots or choose another profession. Crab is not a staple. The entire crab supply chain will simply deal with higher costs, just as the caviar industry does.
As for the temporary Hondurans presently working as pickers, they have refined a valuable skill that they can take home with them.
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The Hondurans (and other groups) were granted TEMPORARY protected status. What part of "temporary" don't people understand?
The US currently cannot afford to meet the legitimate needs of its own citizens: the poor, the elderly, veterans, the disabled, and so on. We cannot possibly afford to provide funds and services to the millions of non-citizens in the US and certainly not to the hundreds of millions of foreigners who would love to come to this country.
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People who go to live in other countries should consider volunteering every month to thank the country that allows then to live there which it does not have to do.
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Hillary Clinton assisted in a coup in Honduras when she was secretary of state. They removed a populist president and put in a right-wing extremist. We owe the people of Honduras something, and letting these people stay here would be decent and humane. But decent and humane is not what the USA means any more.
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I feel terrible that this has been an unexpected blow to these immigrants, but I do have a question. Why haven't they applied for permanent green cards or citizenship if they wanted to stay? Particularly those who started successful businesses and bought homes? They were not "illegal" they had protected status. At any time during the past several decades, they could have hired an attorney and did it properly. I went through that process with my first spouse and it is doable.
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Trump's mother was an illegal alien and his wife violated her visa by working before she had a work permit. Her family is seeking US citizenship through "chain migration", they have absolutely no skills to offer this country. It is astounding that after all his myriad of malfeasance this guy still has the supporters he does. As Mark Twain said its easier to convince a man (or woman) of something than to convince them that they had made a mistake.
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Milliband,
Why are you surprised? Trump's mother and his (current) wife were/are Caucasian. To MAWA (Make America White Again) Trump, that is all you need to know.
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If you don’t like what Trump is doing with immigration, then vote in the next election. And if you do like what Trump is doing with immigration, then you vote too in the next election. Not complicated -- though also cruel.
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Exactly. That's what we did! Cruel is anyone who votes the other way from you, I'm guessing.
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They are the wrong color. As Trump said.."why can't we get more people from Norway?"
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What was intended to be temporary clearly was not. Twenty two years is not a temporary or fleeting time in any person's life.
I have no problem with fixing the TPS program going forward, but I don't understand the rush to kick out hard-working folk who have been here for so many years.
When TPS is ended for a particular group, there should be a special appeals process where an affected individual can make a case for why he or she should stay. People like the man profiled in this article should meet the qualifications for such an appeal.
I really don't understand why there is such resistance to "grandfathering" when programs are reformed. It makes no sense to punish long-term recipients solely because the US kept extending the time limit of their program. The recipients did not control that.
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I don't understand why these people weren't expected to understand the concept of "temporary" and why leftists seem incapable of understanding the word as well!?? When the hurricanes etc were recovered from then they should have moved home if it was meant for weather related tragedy and to be Temporary. For god's sake why should goverment's have to plan on foreigners taking advantage and pushing the limits every.single.time the us offers assistance? Why aren't we looking at personal responsibility here and not a government's intolerance for routine taking advantage?
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How is it a "rush"... again they are giving one to two years to resolve their status. Read the immigration laws, this means they can still apply for resident status....
This article is hyping a problem that does not exist.
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I am curious how "temporary" translates to almost twenty years? What was the government thinking and keeping people in limbo for 20 yeas. It sounds like we need new regulations - like "temporary" is for say 3 or 5 years, after that - if you want to stay - then we need a path to citizenship.
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Are you telling me these people didn't know when their country had recovered from the hurricane? I'm willing to bet they were well aware of the progress of the reconstruction. It was temporary. Kinda like "till you get on your feet". If you let your buddy stay after his house has had damaged, is it your job to make sure his place is repaired and then to notify HIM of when he can go back home? Of course not.
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It’s a shame prior administrations were so lax with immigration. Twenty and in some case 30 years isn’t temporary.
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You're right that these people have stayed for much longer than what would be considered "temporary," but is kicking them out the right thing to do? Having lived here for 20-30 years in some cases, they are Americans through and through. Forcing them to leave the communities they have come to call home is disgusting.
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Muhammad, IF they were/are Americans through and through.....WHY haven't they tried to make their stay permanent by applying for citizenship over the last 20 + years.
Just because your on American soil it does NOT make you an American.
If I went to one of the Arab countries for an extended period it won't make me an Arab no matter what I say/want.
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They are not US citizens. Period.
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Of course this woudn't be the case if they all were from Norway.
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N Smith, people from Norway would be self-reliant and not receiving government benefits. This article highlights a few successful Hondurans, not the majority who are receiving some form of government assistance.
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Sorry, I miss the news on the "Norway Hurricane". Moreover, Citizens in Norway have a higher standard of living, so no need for migration. Your comment is moot to say the least.
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Right, because Norway can solve their own problems.
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Temporariness is not the point. Why aren't these people who have suffered terribly and have benefitted their adopted country in so many ways now not welcome? There is simply no rational basis for not making them permanent residents with the opportunity for citizenship.
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."---Not temporarily!
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Exactly. They were welcome and offered the chance to become citizens. Yet they had done absolutely NOTHING in order to become one. The opportunity is always there, If they choose not to take it, then they can go out complaining like you about rights...
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They did not immigrate. The were here on a temporary visa issued out of the kindness of our nation BUT, it was temporary.
Nuff said....
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What part of the word "temporary" is unclear?
If you've been here "temporarily" for 20 years, it's long past time you went home.
Perhaps, you can take what you've learned here and help make Honduras a better, freer, more prosperous country.
The interesting thing: the same leftist who devolved into fits of sputtering rage at DT's asserted use of a particular descriptive for many countries, demonstrate, by their actions, that they actually agree with him.
Truly, this isn't difficult. If you're here illegally, go home. If you were admitted here temporarily, it's time to leave. While we're at it, we should end ALL unskilled immigration into the US, as we simply don't need a lot of competition pushing down low end wages even further.
Immigration should only be permitted when an individual has something we can use. Any Honduran MD or physicist should be permitted to stay. The rest can go. There is absolutely no justification for permitting anyone to stay.
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There's always the chance that Mar a Lago might have some vacancies.
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We need skilled and unskilled labor- there are many open, low paying agriculture jobs in CA with few takers, and fast food companies are also experiencing a shortage of labor. But we also need more compassionate people, an attribute that seems sorely lacking based on such comments.
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Have you ever read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty? We are the richest country in the world and we use up most of the world's resources. Our policies often had horrific impacts on the countries many refugees come from. We are all originally immigrants here. Where is your compassion? God did not draw borders on the earth..they exist only in man's frame of reference. Thank God or Fate the you were lucky enough to be born here.
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How can anybody vote Republican in 2018 or 2020? We have abandoned all of our values. What do we stand for anymore?
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The right to be a sovereign Country, just like any other in the face of the earth. Try asking the same question in Honduras to see what answer you get.
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In the spirit of compromise, how about modifying President Trump's four pillar plan to five pillars.
1. Path to citizenship for Dreamers
2. Build the wall
3. End chain migration
4. End the diversity lottery
and now
5. Path to citizenship for all TPS participants
Deal?
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Number 3 is a no. And Number 2 isn't exactly feasible or wise; in lieu of that we will endorse border security measures that actually work. Otherwise, yes, you would have a deal.
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No deal! It’s great that we are finally taking our country back again.
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You left out Pillar 6 - cut legal immigration by 50%.
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Isn't there a caravan of buses with Honduran citizens at the border right now asking for entry, or at least a review of their situation? That in itself is an indication that things are very bad in their country, with corruption, gangs, drug trade, murder, and all sorts of crimes that have forced people to take unimaginable risks to escape the horror of their home country.
President Bush granted TPS status to these people, and they have repaid his generosity and spirit by essentially becoming citizens. There should be some way to grant them access to green cards and/or citizenship after all these years. I suspect that most of these people will board a bus and make the dangerous journey back to the U.S. if they are forced to return.I
What are people in the U.S. (themselves the descendants of immigrants) really afraid of?
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One question, What did stop them from applying for citizenship? Again not our choice, but theirs to make. Now the consequences of not following the laws are to be paid. Otherwise, we will be just like Honduras, right!
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Things are "very bad" in so many countries! We are very fortunate to have a country in which the situation is not "very bad." Yet! Do we really need to import EVERYONE who has a "very bad" situation in their home countries?
How do you see this playing out? Are you ready to take a few dozen of these people into your own home? You should help them personally, since you feel strongly about it.
We are afraid of being overwhelmed by masses of people who are uneducated, unskilled, needy, who push wages dawn, keep wages down, overcrowd our schools, overcrowd our hospitals-- Do you want to support people who come from a "very bad" situation until we get to a baking point? Then what? Some of us do not.
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Legally, with the federal government allowing these refugees to remain in the country for years and years, their "temporary" status has constructively been changed into a "permanent" one by virtue of this lengthy period of official inaction. These people have entirely altered their lives, in a good faith reliance, upon this continuing governmental policy not to seek their forced removal. To deport them at this irrational late stage is clearly capricious, arbitrary, and indeed inhumane.
The Department of Homeland Security, hopefully, will be enjoined by the courts, in expected litigation, from removing this assimilated group who have for years called America their home, and who are in every respect "Americans".
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Let's follow your rationale. If your Gym membership expires, you still have the right to use the Gym because for the last 30 years you have done so. We all signed up for a "lifetime membership" so why you get to continue to come in just because you didn't want to become a life member.
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The mere passage of time of an illegal act does not make it legal for a citizen of the US why in the heck do you folks think it should for people who aren't even citizens here? I just don't get why you think it is some great favor these folks have done us by coming and benefiting from the taxes already paid into the system by citizens who have yet to see benefit from them. There are laws in my state to give free college to non citizens but I will be in debt the rest of my life for mine. How does this make sense?!
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Dear Doc, You unconscionably and grossly trivialize a, literally, life and death situation for this group of people who will be returned to a dangerous and essentially lawless state, and without employment prospects. For guidance, I would refer to the supposedly sacred oath taken by all physicians of "doing no harm" which would be employed by at least some empathetic souls in your profession to enlighten their thinking in this harsh immigration context.
Automation is swiftly changing the employment situation worldwide, especially in North America. As more and more people are replaced by machines, work hours must be reduced to maintain full employment. This reduction in work hours will eventually have to result in guaranteed incomes for Americans to remove them from the workforce; something which is currently being introduced in a few other countries.
The children and grandchildren of those who we admit today will be competing with current American's children and grandchildren for a piece of that guaranteed income. The living standards of our progeny will be diminished by the progeny of any future immigrants.
While it's true that many immigrants come here with skills and talents, we have many skilled and talented Americans who could fill those same roles but are less likely to be hired because they expect to be paid more; businesses prefer to hire immigrants because their lower salaries improve the bottom line.
Also, consider the brain-drain: When we bring in the best and brightest from foreign lands, we are depriving their home countries of the rewards of future improvements, almost guaranteeing them permanent second and third class status.
For the greater good of both poorer countries and the future well-being of current Americans and their progeny, it would be best to close our borders to all, including the most talented.
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Disgrace of presidency, denying assistance to fellowmen seeking asylum or better oportunities is nothing but repulsive. That won't stop immigrants from coming, but it will increase the number of illegals. It is just as if POTUS believes that by closing his eyes and ears will make problems go away. Sad indeed.
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Nothing was denied. They could have applied and become citizens. They elected to live in limbo. Is sad, but honestly, they are to blame for it.
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The 50,000 Hondurans whose protected status has been terminated by the Trump regime are parents of 53,500 natural born Ameican children. By expelling their parents, who have made constructive lives and their families, the Trump regime is also exposing tens of thousands of American children to all kinds of political, economic, and criminal hazards.
Mark Krikorian, executive director of the xenophobic Center for [Anti-] Emigration Studies callously dismisses the people's plight, including their American-born children, by saying they should all be returned to Honduras, which, he adds snidely, has "long ago reverted to its regular messed-up state."
Like these children, Krikorian is a native born US citizen of recent foreign immigration. Legally his status is identical to theirs. One wonders how Krikorian would feel if the government expelled him, dismissively remarking that Armenia has "reverted to its regular messed up state."
One wonders, too, how Donald Trump would feel when some one points out that his father perfectly fits the definition of what some anti-immigration nativists are calling an "anchor-baby." Fred Trump was born two months after his mother and father arrived in the United States.
How easy we forget.
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Yet they became citizens of the US. So no amount of comparison justifies these people not doing the same. And i took the Trump's less time to comply with the law vs 30 years for these people. Apples to Apples my friend.
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Kinda hard to deport an American citizen. Interesting and bold idea! kudos! Save lots of money on prisons!
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With apologies to Martin Niemöller:
First they came for the Nicaraguans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not Nicaraguan.
Then they came for the Haitians, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not Haitian.
Then they came for the Salvadorans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not Salvadoran.
Then they came for the Nepalese, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not Nepalese.
Then they came for the Hondurans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not Honduran.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Apparently, before declaring "improved conditions", Homeland Security head Kirstjen Nielsen didn't check the State Department website on Honduras, El Salvador or Haiti.
The State Department advises travelers to "reconsider travel" to all of these destinations. There is no evidence that "conditions have improved".
In fact, the gangs operating in El Salvador and elsewhere in Central America have their roots in Los Angeles. Deported gang members set up shop in their countries of origin, making conditions far worse there, not better.
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Her actions have implied that she may be biased and it seems to affect everything she does and say.
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Sonia Paz, … said she had no intention of leaving. Her employer, Julie Silver, said that Ms. Paz is an indispensable member of “the team”... We are going to support her in any way we can...”
In 1986, Charles Schumer crafted a bill giving amnesty to illegal immigrants. Despite his promise that it would end illegal immigration, it encouraged more people to migrate here illegally, on the bet that they, too, would receive amnesty. Sonia Paz says she arrived here at age 22, which would have been shortly after the mass amnesty. Estimates based on the census say that we now have 11 million undocumented immigrants, most of whom have little education, and are highly dependent on government services and subsidies. If we offer another amnesty, we will be flooded with so many more undereducated foreigners that we may no longer have a country.
Perhaps Ms. Paz’ employer would be willing to personally sponsor Ms. Paz for a green card. This would mean she, the employer, rather than the taxpayer, would be legally responsible for Ms. Paz’ finances. Mz. Paz would no longer be able to turn to the government to supplement her income, pay her medical bills, and so on.
Ms. Paz’ sponsor should also be asked to contribute to services who help those whom Mz. Paz displaces. This would include services to help people find jobs, affordable housing, affordable medical care, and so on.
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"we will be flooded with so many more undereducated foreigners that we may no longer have a country."
So, Ann, why and when did your ancestors come here? Were they highly educated?
Through most of American history, most immigrants were not formally educated, fleeing difficult circumstances, and hard working, just like these Hondurans. They are more representative of those who built America than the brothel-running Trump grandfather,
In contrast, we taxpayers are wasting millions of dollars paying top-dollar rent to the grifter Donald Trump for the Secret Service at his many properties.
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The 1986 amnesty was the idea of Ronald Reagan.
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Lynn, when our ancestors came here there was no such thing as welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, free health care, social services... Our ancestors made it on their own. Not the case with today’s illegals and some legal immigrants.
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“Temporary Protected Status”
Finally a President who understands the meaning of the word temporary.
Immigration should be merit based. If there is a Honduran who has merit, eg. an advanced STEM degree, they can apply for a visa like everyone else.
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Where, oh where, have the Christian sects gone? Where, oh where can they be?
Acquiesced to the Republican Pharisees every one!
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Temporary means temporary.
I'm sure most of these people are decent, law-abiding, and hard working. But temporary means temporary. In fairness, they should only been here for 5-10 years at most. The rest of their stay in the U.S. was really just a bonus.
Not to worry. Most of them will hop aboard the next caravan leaving for the U.S. border, will claim asylum, and will get to live here for another few years legally before skipping their asylum court date, and then will disappear underground.
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So maybe just maybe we should assume that if we have allowed them to live her legally maybe we should allow them to stay. What do you think happens in Central America when we send them back. The Central American countries should refuse to allow them back.
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Yep. I feel zero sympathy. Long time coming.
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Vincent:
Why on earth would we assume that?
Or are you saying that since they are likely to break the law anyway via the asylum route, we should just avoid law enforcement in the first place?
When President Trump indelicately called some developing countries a nasty name, the uproar from liberals was deafening. Can we at least now agree that Trump's description was appropriate for Honduras?
I would certainly agree that life will be difficult if they return, but no more difficult than it is for about 4 billion other people on the planet.
My recommended solution is for Congress to adopt President Trump's four pillar plan (i.e. citizenship for Dreamers, border wall, end chain migration and diversity lottery) and add a fifth pillar - citizenship for TPS participants. Could we agree on that?
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Donald Trump is the epitome of cruelty.
Attention: are Melania’s parents going to become US citizens?
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You have a good point on Europeans coming here and the president not having a problem with it....i think thats what your are inferring? However, Europeans are not coming here 1 to 3 million a year.
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Yes, he really is a cruel person.
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My question is, if they are such great and smart people the Hondurans, why can't they go back to their native country and make that place great? Why is it the United States who always has to take the moral high ground?
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The US hasn't taken the moral high ground on anything since Trump took office.
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I suggest you go to Honduras and you'll quickly see why. And out of curiosity, which American's do you imagine will want the jobs they do? Have you seen the unemployment rate? The shortage of nurses in the USA? Your comment is uneducated and mean-spirited to my eyes, I'm sad to say.
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" why can't they go back to their native country and make that place great? "
Because of all the US Assault weapons that are trafficked to Honduras from here while the NRA's donors profit on the slaughter, not to mention all the gangs that are propped up by sales of drugs to US Citizens here in the US
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Today the Trump Administration rescinded protected status for anyone not of English extract living in the United States since 1776.
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According to PEW, as of 2014 (the latest figures available), Hispanic immigrants are having more children, per female, than native born Americans.
A higher percentage of the children, who are born to Hispanic immigrants, are out-of-wedlock than the percentage of children to native born Americans.
Of the 10 top countries that accounted for most births by foreign born mothers, Honduras was number 7.
Honduran immigrants had the greatest percentage of children out-of-wedlock of any native born or immigrant group: two-thirds of the Honduran immigrants who gave birth in 2014 were single mothers.
Hondurans, who gave birth in 2014, had an average medium income of $24,000. This was the lowest household income of any immigrant group. 49% of new Honduran mothers were living in poverty.
(PEW’s 10/26/16 report 10/26/16 titled "5 facts about immigrant mothers and U.S. fertility trends" provide the above information.)
These people are highly dependent on all kinds of government services and subsidies for the poor.
American taxpayers have been supporting them for long enough. Armed with what they have learned from living here, the Hondurans need to return home to make improvements in their own country.
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Did you read the article? "According to the Center for Migration Studies, Hondurans with protected status have 53,500 American-born children; 85 percent participate in the labor force, compared with 63 percent of the overall United States population; and nearly 20 percent have mortgages." Since there's no rational reason, why are you against their continued presence here. Imagine how much employers spend to train workers---why would you want to ditch that investment by US firms, schools, hospitals (there's a nursing shortage, guess where a bunch come here from!)
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American taxpayers have supported the Trumps long enough. It’s costing us a fortune to pay for all these golf trips.
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Goldie, Vox had an article on 11/7/17 titled
"Trump's next immigration target: people living legally in US after disaster struck their countries”. It quoted the Center for Immigration Studies (a pro immigrant entity) as saying that only 38% of Hondurans with TPS had high school diplomas.
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Our expanding lack of compassion and tendency to export war have put the lie to our 'shining city on the hill' myth.
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Sue now. Just like the end of the DACA program there is no good reason for this action. The promise of safe harbor has long ago transitioned to an enforceable contract that this population is a valuable contributor to the US and should be allowed to stay. The decision to end protection for these good people is arbitrary and capricious, without any justification except to serve Republican political ends. See the attorneys for the DACA lawsuit, stand up for fair play. For the rest of us, remember the caution about fascism - first they came for the Muslims, then they came for the Latinos, then they will come for you. Stop this unfounded racism, vote the Republicans out of office.
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The morally correct way to solve this is to offer them citizenship. After 20 years in this country they are Americans.
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Agree, there is plenty of room in America for more people and all people are consumers which makes new people assets. Those who bewail that all immigrant populations have some who need social welfare benefits forget that everyone delivering those benefits is being employed by the providers of services to those immigrants. Where do you think the low unemployment rate comes from? EVERY sector of the economy. Please don't let your prejudices against people blind your common sense and decency.
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And just wait until the stock markets trades sidewyas or down for several years because the unemployment rate is so low it is reaching the level of the unemployable. People in this country, especially those on Social Security and dependent on stock portfolios for their income, need to realize we are not producing enough children on our own to support growth of the economy and pay their SS through payroll taxes. Then they will be clamoring for a loosening of immigration policy!!
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Well that is a baseless statement. We do not OFFER citizenship, the person must apply for it. We OFFERED years of safety and opportunity and theses groups accepted it... but, they failed make the decision to apply for resident alien status and start the process to gain citizenship. The offer is expiring and it is no fault of the US, we provided 20 years of life in the best country in the world.
The move to end DACA, TPS and all forms of immagration to this country speaks volumes about the fear white men have been gripped by. Knowing that within years whites will only be one of many minorities in this country has led to openly racist and xenophobic rants and actions. We are and have always been a nation of immigrants, demonizing others won't change that.
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Our expanding lack of compassion and our tendency to export war have put the lie to the myth of The Shining City on the hill.
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You'd think, especially in America, after 20 years that refugees would have passed a statute of limitations on deportation. This is plain outright cruelty. Honduras is still an incredibly unsafe place. To uproot people now seems to be a human rights violation contrary to everything good that the U.S. stands for. I hope that the courts will intervene on this mean-spirited, callous and inhumane decision.
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Not only is this mean-spirited, it is counter-productive. Remittances back from US relatives comprise a significant part of their GDP. This can wreak havoc on their economy.
Equally important, Honduras is the most pro-US country in all of Central America. They have allowed us to have a military base that is strategically located at the geographic center of the Americas. If we treat our so-called "friends" like this, they will seek other friends----China, Russia, radical Islam, who knows.
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Agree. A temporary admin should know the meaning. And then we'll return to having some semblance of a moral compass.
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It's refreshing to finally have an administration that understands the meaning of the word temporary.
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Agree. A temporary admin should know the meaning. And when Trump's temporary stay is over, we'll return to having some semblance of a moral compass.
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The vast majority of these Hondurans add more value to this country than the President.
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Pardon me if I'm wrong but wasn't this supposed to be a temporary program? I mean really 1999? Was there no way for them to become citizens?
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How is taking the main breadwinners away from, destroying the families of, and traumatizing American children making America great again?
How is removing tax paying residents who add to the economic vitality of our communities making America great again?
How is lack of compassion towards our neighbors who overcame hardship to live normal, productive lives here in the US making America great again?
How?
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Agreed. And I am a Republican. My ancestors were treated poorly. That's no excuse to treat new immigrants the same way.
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"How is lack of compassion towards our neighbors who overcame hardship to live normal, productive lives here in the US making America great again?" I find it really depressing that the over-riding value of where revolutions have brought us is this jellyfish humanitarianism that protests that life should be easy. Get over it. This is not "humanitarian" but rather the typical blah value set that leads to the conclusion that materialism equals happiness. This is what American capitalism gives us.
My spouse is Honduran. I have visited extensively and lived there for 1 year in 2014. The original "conditions" from hurricane mitch may not be there but the economic and social devastation elevated the importance of the drug trade. And the heinous activity of street gangs has a strong grip on peoples everyday movements. The government is dysfunctional at best and corrupt and in bed with the drug trade, at worst. Will Honduras be able to absorb these TPS grantees who haven't been able to adjust their status to permanent residents/us citizens? I'm not sure they will have a change to even try-- it's likely many will stay. Perhaps those with education may try to immigrate elsewhere. In the end, canceling TPS will enlarge the second class citizenry already living here.
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Remind me again about that time Trump gave us the proof about his third wife's path to legal citizenship.............
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And how HER parents just recently breezed through the citizenship process ...... Hmmm .... was THIS why she has (so far) stayed married to Trump ????
I could understand this decision if these people were only in the US for a short period, maybe a year or so. It's true that it was originally intended to be a temporary short-term program, but it didn't work out that way and it's been nearly 20 years. We've allowed them to establish a life here legally for two decades - they have jobs, their children are in school, they pay taxes, they own businesses, they've followed all the rules - and now we tell them to leave? At this point, what is the benefit of uprooting these people's lives? Instead, why not make their status permanent and grant citizenship? We don't have to reinstate TPS in the future, but it is unnecessary and cruel to send those who are already here back to Honduras when they've done nothing wrong.
The main impact I can see from this decision is only creating more illegal immigrants as many of these people will be willing to take the risk of living in the shadows instead of abandoning their life here. Families will be broken up and livelihoods disrupted for no good reason.
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Agreed. Great points. My ancestors were immigrants (Irish). Faced plenty of issues. Just because they were treated poorly is no excuse for poor treatment of immigrants now. We can actually learn from history, if we learn about it in first place.
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I believe the better path with respect to Hondurans admitted to the United States under TPS related to Hurricane Mitch would be to offer U.S. citizenship to those who are otherwise eligible (i.e., still here, not convicted of criminal offenses involving "moral turpitude," etc.). There is absolutely NO benefit to forcing the Hondurans - who do not wish to return to Honduras - to leave. As you point out, to do so has NOTHING to contribute to this president's promises to "make America (sic) great again." Instead, the policy is simply mean: it breaks up families by forcing those from Honduras to leave, while US-born kids may stay. It exposes the Hondurans to great danger in Honduras where gangs target people with US connections for extortion. It impairs the rights of the Hondurans who have an expectation of continuation of the program based on two decades of past extensions.
If Hondurans were white, Trump wouldn't be so keen to push them back over our southern border. He doesn't seem to want to go after criminal elements with pale flesh - like the alt-right in Charlottesville ("fine" people) - but he'll LOOK for brown people to toss out for any reason he can.
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I think the US needs to stop issuing Temporary Protected Status as, clearly, few are willing to accept the literal meaning of the designation. Instead, as with so much, once given it becomes a de facto entitlement. If “temporary” has no generally accepted meaning, scrap the program entirely.
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Tell that to my friend who can only get her treatment for a rare disease in the US, so she is allowed to stay under the program. I'd love to see you tell her face-to-face.
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I'll tell her. Are my tax dollars funding her medical treatment??
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Rallying cry, "Make temporary protected status permanent!"
This is a program that should not have been started with bright, clear line as to when status would end. That said, asking people who have been here for 20 years with legal status to leave is wrong.
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"Temporary Protected Status', is exactly as the name implies. It's temporary.
If these people are as good a citizens as they say they are (and I have no reason to not believe them), then now is a good time for them to return to Honduras and become a part of the solution.
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I don't have a problem providing temporary protection, shelter and assistance to those displaced by natural disasters.
But 20 years of "temporary" protection is preposterous. And then to change the rationale for this temporary protection from a sense of compassion and generosity to help those in a time of need to "they participate in the labor force and have mortgages" -- well that is just plain laughable.
Honestly, the fact that some advocacy group calls terminating a temporary policy after 20 years "unconscionable" makes me fear for the future of our country, where logic, law, and order gives way to unflinching interest group politics.
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"But 20 years of "temporary" protection is preposterous". And what about the next hurricane wherever, and thousands seek refuge...it goes on and on. These people should go back to their countries and try to make them better places. Will that take self-sacrifice? You bet. But when did a mortgage become the over-riding goal of valid human life?
"The Trump administration is ending temporary protected status for tens of thousands of Hondurans who have been allowed to live and work in the United States since 1999,. . ."
There is an equitable doctrine in the law called "Laches." It's essentially a shield to prevent someone who is technically correct, but didn't have a problem before, to now insist on the letter of the law.
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Laches cannot be invoked against the sovereign.
Employers need Hondurans. With 3.9% unemployment, it's hard to find workers.
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We have tens of thousands of citizens who have been out of work for so long that they are no longer counted in the official unemployment figure.
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If a worker is no longer counted in unemployment figures, it is because s/he is no longer seeking employment. If workers actively seek employment, they are still counted, even if they do not draw unemployment benefits. Workers from Latin/Central America -- at least those with little English and/or low skills -- take positions that few U.S. workers choose to apply for or accept. Many Latin/Central Americans, though, are highly-skilled and well-educated: they start their own businesses and employ workers themselves. The assumption that the Hondurans are here taking jobs that would otherwise go to U.S. workers is an unfair one to make absent specific data to support the contention.
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Some people have become too discouraged to look for work. Employers are keeping wages low and not improving working conditions because they can always get illegal immigrants (including those with TPS, most of whom came here illegally long before the hurricane) to do the work.
The Harvard economist George Borjas conducted research which found that illegal immigrants decreased the wages of our poorest paid citizens by 8%. He also found that the rate of Black employment decreased as the number of illegal immigrants increased. Our giving protected status to illegal migrants has hurt our own citizens and their children.
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Isn't this more of an indictment of previous administrations that this temporary support was not enforced per letter of the law?
I feel for all these folks, but I am sorry if you were led to believe this support was permanent.
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One would hope that Canada and other countries in the America's will step up material aid and training programs, coupled with NGOs, for Honduras. The arrival of a relatively well educated and well off population, coupled with the appropriate level of international support would be something that Hondurans could benefit from. So would a package of trade reforms and vehicles to encourage foreign investment. However, the chances of countries other than the US providing meaningful support is nearly zero.
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These are good people who came here legally, have worked hard and contributed to our communities.
Theses good people have harmed no one, are loved by many, yet Trump wants to break up their families and to put their lives at risk by sending them to a place awash in illegal guns trafficked down there with loose sales protected by the NRA, and gangs that support themselves with money paid by US citizen drug addicts.
I am fed up with the Trump administration wasting my tax dollars destroying good families of hard-working people, instead of using border control money to fight smuggling and other crimes.
The Republicans claim to be the 'family values" party, but they are the hate-spewing family destruction party.
The Republicans claim to protect Christianity, but in fact they are anti-Christian as they denigrate and insult the Stranger that others have welcomed with open arms and hearts, former strangers, now our neighbors who, in turn, have contributed, both with tax dollars and hard work, to America.
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Some came here legally, but the majority were here illegally and took advantage of the crisis.
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Just a footnote for accuracy:
TPS applies to those from an affected country whether they entered the US legally or not. To say "came here legally" may or may not be true.
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You are misinformed. These people only had to be in this country when TPS was allowed for them to get it so you have no idea if they came legally or not. We suspect most did not and were able to take advantage of their good fortune.
Second; no one is forcing them to break up their family. They can easily take their family with them but its their choice.
Third; one of the reasons to have a country is to control your borders. This is interior and exterior borders. Due to Obama; the interior forcement has been almost non existent and people have bene allowed to get away with alot.
Fourth; TPS was never meant to be permanent. Too many Presidents of both parties are not willing to make the hard choices. This is 400000 plus jobs our own citizens could and would be doing so time for all TPS / DACA / ETC legal and illegal immigrants to go home and build up their own countries.
NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.
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What a mess. I’m sympathetic to their plight but I don’t think the program was intended for a long term solution. I am also sure that Trump will have the best ideas how to solve this problem just like he solved the DACA issue. What a mess.
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They're .01% of the population. Give those with good records the ability to apply for citizenship rather than destroy the lives of tens of thousands who've been here for 2 decades for no economically or socially justifiable reason.
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Do these people not have have the ability to become citizens? Also, does temporary mean forever?
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He solved DACA? When?
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Donald Trump has no choice here. Ann Coulter has publicly made it clear in a NYTimes interview. If Trump doesn’t act in a big way on Immigration the Conservative are going to dump him. He’s operating on razor thin margins now. He cant afford to lose anyone supporting him.
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Of course he has a choice...but the moral choice would require courage.
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You are telling me not one of these people decided to try for citizenship?
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Brian-
Please send a link with a method they might have used to apply for citizenship. As far as I understand, temporary protected status does not enable you to apply for Citizenship, but correct me if I am wrong.
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“Ms. Paz, a nanny in Pacific Palisades, west of Los Angeles ... “
The Palisades is IN Los Angeles not west of it. These small errors are why so many question the important stuff. Nit-picking to be sure. But it’s not hard to get the facts straight. That helps everyone ...
These are not “green card holders”, permanent resident aliens. TPS aliens are not eligible for citizenship, unless they first apply for and receive green cards. There is no practical pathway to a green card once admitted through TPS.