Here's a more rational and less defensive view.
https://nypost.com/2018/05/01/team-obama-should-just-accept-they-failed-...
The Times wants us to continue to do all the things liberals have previously done that invariably cause these deals to fail - ignore the mendacity. (Can you spell Agreed Framework? Thanks for that one Bill.) Iran was supposed to come clean on day one with all the details of its nuclear weapons program. It didn't. It failed to comply. It kept it a secret so that retaining the right to enhance enrichment and build missiles wouldn't seem threatening. (Yeah - like Kerry and Obama knew all this but still gave Iran the right to continue enrichment. Wanna buy a bridge?) If everything we just learned publicly from Netanyahu had been public in 2015, would there even have been a deal? And would it have been on these horrible terms? It would have been too embarrassing to Obama and Kerry. How many times can the NY Times be wrong? Don't you guys learn anything? You do know that liberals will be immolated in a thermonuclear blast just the same as conservatives, don't you?
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Honestly, I don't someone like Bibi to tell me that Iran is lying about their promises in the nuclear deal. I pretty much knew from the start that Iran will never really keep their end of the bargain. No matter how many will call this a flimflam, he is telling the truth and wants to stop Iran before it's too late. His point is that we shouldn't wait for Iran to actually have nuclear weapons before fighting them, but rather stopping them before they can have them. The reason why there is so much concern about Iran having a nuclear program especially from Israel is mainly because not only can Iran never be trusted with having them, but also they are open about wanting to destroy Israel once they are built. Before anyone complains about Israel having nuclear weapons, they are used mostly as a means to deter their enemies from attacking as many still wish to in the near future as they did. More importantly, I have never heard any Israeli politician saying that they want to wipe Iran or any other country off the map once they have them as to this day Israel still hasn't done that. In a way, this is sort of the Allied Powers of both UK and France waiting until it was too late stop Germany and thought that allowing for them to conquer a country such as Czechoslovakia, which is now a divided country, would avert a war, but they were wrong and that's what lead to Winston Churchill becoming the new PM due to knowing that a war with Adolf Hitler and the Nazis was inevitable.
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Yellow cake, anyone ???
Of course a Netanyahu request of a "few" more billion dollars in aid to counter the Iran threat is coming next...what a racket!.
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A silly TEDtalk for an audience of one silly (and dangerously powerful) man. As one Israeli put it when interviewed on NPR, we have leaders that rule by fear, Netanyahu and Trump. Birds of a feather.
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I thought Netanyahu was going to jail. Why is he still whispering to Donald?
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Why is there so much misrepresentation of the West's ability to do any real due diligence on Iran's developments. Obama gave up any right to check their most important facilities. Talk to expat Iranians, . . . they seem to know this, and find it amusing and pathetic.
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If Netanyahu succeeds in scuttling this agreement, European countries should retaliate by starting to demand some answers on Israel's own nuclear program.
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Where is all of this support for nuclearized Iran ayatollahs come from? ? ?
The Obama deal guaranteed Iran a clear path to nuclear Iran.
Where on God's green earth is this sane? A regime which is already wielding its might in the the ME with severe consequences, will be unstoppable once it has nuclear capabilities and delivery systems to go with them.
Well done Obama. Well done NYT. What insightful, astute thinking.
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Iran is going to lose a generation of nuclear weapons scientists because of this treaty. You don't come back from this. The US National Laboratories struggle to keep funding for some projects on weapons "modernization' to keep a scientific staff on board that understand how to do this work.
The idea that Iran can "flip a switch" after 10 years of an embargo on active research and "finish" delivering a bomb in months or a year, is not realistic.The Iran program relies on scientists and engineers that trained in the US in the 70's, before the revolution.
This native talent is retiring and Iran increasingly depends on assistance from North Korea, China, and Russia. This is a different arms control problem for the US to address. Trump obviously does not understand any of this. The scientific tesm that helped negotiate this treaty did.
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The problem with the monitoring of Iran is that it is not allowing the IAEA to inspect any military locations. And the IAEA continues to claim that it may do this when they deem it to be necessary! But our concern about Iran is ONLY in connection with potential nuclear weaponry.
Essentially the thousands of inspection hours undertaken by the IAEA are only in connection with non-military sites that the Iranians permit them to access. The Iranians claim that the 2015 Agreement excludes military site inspection. It is therefore essentially useless. We can sneer all we want about Trump and Bibi but Iran still remains an uncontrolled threat. A threat that is certainly richer financially as a result of the largesse gifted by the 2015 accord.
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Exactly what are the upsides of the US withdrawing from the Iran deal? No other signatory will do so and no other country will impose sanctions. The main effect will be that no commercial Iranian deal will include US businesses. This will fit the pattern of shooting oneself in the foot by withdrawing from the Paris accords and TPP, and who knows what additional mischief with Nafta.
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I am curious as to how the Mossad's breach of iran's deepest and darkest state secrets can be described as a "coup" simply because it revealed information that the world has already known for more than a decade.
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I watched Netanyahu's presentation and, shortly into it, was wondering if people in general are gullible or uninformed enough to accept this show at face value. I was waiting for him to start juggling and spinning plates. This was a transparent attempt to appeal to Mr. Trump's shallow world view and his means of keeping up with with current events. By the end of this circus act, I had my answer: Yes. People are indeed that gullible and uninformed. Starting with Mr. Trump.
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As if facts matter. The Trump Administration now has the cover it needs to do what it was planning to do all along. Netanyahu might be entirely right. He might be entirely wrong. To Mr. Trump, it doesn't really matter. He has what he wants.
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The NYT supports the deal on the basis that "its verification provisions are the most intrusive of any arms control agreement." The provisions are apparently so robust, that the IAEA was able to give Iran a pass on the prior military dimensions of its nuclear program, and since the implementation of the JCPOA not a single military site suspected of nuclear activities has been inspected. Further, the were such an inspection actually conducted, the process is "robust" that Iran conducts the investigation itself and gives the results to the IAEA! Last, this was not an arms control agreement. It was not, because it would require treaty ratification that President Obama knew he could not pass. Instead, it was a political agreement, with all of the ramifications and failings of an agreement based on politics, rather than the long-term security of our nation and the Western World.
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New rule: Any piece dealing with Israel's opposition to Iran's nuclear program must mention at least in passing Israel's own possession of an estimated 80 nuclear warheads and its refusal to sign the non-proliferation treaty.
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Can't help but recall Nixon briefing on communist aggression in Vietnam.
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Another Mid-East war what could possibly go wrong?
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The Iran deal attempted to bring Iran into the family of nations
Unfortunately the theocrats running the country don’t want to be in the family.
It’s pretty disconcerting that they keep repeating death to America and now have only about 8 years until they can fully nuke up
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I simply can't understand the support on this site for one of the most murderous, fanatical regimes that exist. Do you really believe that they are not cheating? Just take a look at their other actions in the region. Before Obama gave away the store, Iran was on the ropes because of the sanctions and now as a direct result of this inane, agreement they have been enriched & emboldened. The Mideast is lurching to an all out conflict (not just Israel, but Saudi Arabia & others) that will be catastrophic if Iran, in all it's manifestations, is not brought to heel. If the present N. Korea situation proves anything, fanatic dictatorships can only be dealt with through strength, This deal does not represent strength.
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Jack - I can help you understand.
Just take the time to do some calculations and you will immediately see that if "murderous" matters then you need to explain hundreds of thousands dead due to US lies by GW Bush. If fanatical matters you need to explain the giant prison camp and land theft operation run by a self proclaimed religious state. Explain how a dozen Saudis attack NYC in 2001, create world wide havoc, and now we are in love with Saudi Arabia. Most of all explain how you overlook all this on balance to express the crazed ideas you do.
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Did Iran ever launch a coup against the United States and install a murderous despot here"
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The only criticism I have about the editorial comes at the very tail end, where they mention that Israel "reportedly again struck Iranian targets in Syria, killing at least 16 people." The editors fail to mention the reason for the attack was Iran's positioning of surface-to-surface missiles in northern Syria, and that this ratcheting up of the ante had to be addressed. At least 200 of these missiles were destroyed, and neither Iran nor Israel took credit or reacted publicly. For obvious reasons on both sides. However, it goes without saying that Iran will find a way to reply, and continue to provoke further destabliization as she seeks to continue her political expansion from her borders to the Mediterranean.
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I was stunned by this omission as well. It undermines any intellectual credibility the editorial had.
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I was stunned by the omission of Israel's arsenal of 200+ nukes.
So when Netanyahu positions surface to surface missiles in Northern Israel it will be OK for Iran and/or Syria to attack Israel ?
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I find the comments here astounding. Somehow Bibi is being painted as the liar here. He may lie about other things (who among us has not), but can someone point me to a single lie he gave in the presentation? The fact that many (not all) of the folks involved in negotiating JCPOA say that they knew or suspected many of the assertions made during Bibi's presentation does not change the fact that this what he is saying is true. We seem to live in a topsy-turvy world where the people who clearly are lying (ie the Iranian's who continue to maintain that they NEVER had a nuclear weapons program) are the aggrieved, while the truth telling message delivers are branded as liars or worse.
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The nuclear weapons program question seems almost beside the point if Iran's immediate concerns are to bolster the Syrian regime, encourage mischief in Gaza, turn Hezbollah into a proxy army on Israel's northern border, and throw shoes at the Saudis from Yemen. The recent explosion in Syria, powerful enough to register on the Richter scale and purportedly caused by Israeli missiles igniting 200 Iranian missiles is enough evidence of Iran's bad actor status to warrant some second thoughts about the nuclear deal. I am no supporter of Netanyahu or Likud, but isn't it time to revisit the deal and tie Iran's destabilizing behavior of its neighbors to sanctions?
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Netanyahu has been a long time hawk and impediment to any peaceful resolution of the Mid-east situation and in particular coming to terms with the Palestinians.
His show-and-tell was purposely deceptive and intended to influence Trump who is easily influenced by what he sees on TV.
Iran is certainly no friend of the United States but we need to recognize they are the dominant force in that part of the world. We need to stay in the Iran deal as that is the best way we can monitor their activities. If we pull out, they surely will be resuming their nuclear ambitions.
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This editorial puts the latest antics of Benjamin Netanyahu into their proper perspective, and it recognizes that there is a very grave danger to Netanyahu’s clownish efforts to scuttle the Iran nuclear deal.
People with serious concerns about the security of Israel may fall for Benjamin Netanyahu’s invitation to suspend their disbelief and to join his siren call for reneging on the Iran nuclear deal. At least one New York Times columnist has taken that bait.
Israel, the United States and its allies would suffer if the orderliness and relative predictability of the Iran agreement were replaced by a chaotic arms race and probably by a war in the Middle East.
One cannot help but wonder if Benjamin Netanyahu is driven in the Iran issue by something which he shares with Donald Trump. Both men have a pressing domestic political need for an international crisis as a distraction from their personal misconduct.
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Flimflam men -- Trump and Netanyahu. No wonder the two are such good buddies. They think alike about how to con everyone.
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If this jerk wants war, then let him fight it.
This ranting is nothing more than trying to draw the US into another conflict.
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It seems lost on many that, though BOTH Netanyahu and Trump are crass politicians, Iran has been completely deceitful regarding both their past nuclear weapons program and their PRESENT continued nuclear weapon-related program (disguised as academic research).
Netanyahu may have an agenda which while not entirely congruent with ours NOW, may be 100% congruent soon when Iran has intercontinental ballistic missile capability.
It has been over 38 years since the Iran Hostage Crisis, certainly long enough for Iran to have become a "normal" nation.
Iran remains an autocratic theocracy led by a radical zealot and politicized by an equally radical and entrenched military force. It would be a terrible mistake to discount the message because of the messenger!
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Netanyahu and Trump share one certain reality, the absence of the truth.
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So Netanyahu provides proof (US Intelligence corroborates the validity of the documents) that Iran lied about its nuclear program and the defense is nothing more than "That's old news." Are the NYT editors confident that the agreement prevents Iran from developing nukes independent of what the country's leaders tell us? Maybe they would like to buy a bridge.
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You just have to love the blind ignorance of the NYT editors when they continue to believe that Obama did all things correct and noble, and that Iran is not cheating.
Unbelievable!
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Nine countries have nuclear weapons. USA, Russia, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea--and little Israel--which like North Korea wants to be the only enfant terrible in its neighborhood.
Trump should focus on a nuclear weapons deal with Israel too. That might go a long way toward detente--ending Middle East brinkmanship--its idiotic cold (sometimes hot, sometimes proxy) war.
If Rwanda can overcome its holocaust--transcending bloody tribalism--anybody can do it--unless deranged.
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Bibi is just another corrupt politician trying get the spotlight off his family.
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Just to make the point: get the spot light off of HIMSELF and his wife, facing corruption charges.
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Netanyahu's presentation was a complete JOKE! It was aimed at an audience of one. A person sitting in a position of high authority who reads nothing, takes advice from no one but himself, is uninformed, and has no desire to become so. Yet Netanyahu knows that this child king loves to watch TV, and will spout whatever incessant babble that comes out of the boob tube the last time he watched it. Trump was the audience of one, and Netanyahu might have well been playing the Tele-Tubbies for him. Now, because of this farcical scene, the security and safety of the entire region and the world will be at risk when the child king decides to install sanctions again.
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While that is entirely true, it was an undiscerning and ignored portion of our electorate that placed Trump in office. Perhaps if money was removed from politics, legislators would be more concerned with the needs of the people and charlatans would not gain power.
That being said, Iran does present a continuing danger to Israel (and the whole of the mid-East), Western Europe, and the US.
Having Trump in the White House is just unfortunate.
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So we're going to declare the agreement null and void and invade Iran to stop the development of any more weapons. The invasion will at first be a great success, then a complete disaster, plunging the region even further into chaos. And no weapons will be found.
You know how I know this? Cause we just went through it with Iraq.
How, how, how can Americans be so stupid? How, how, how can Americans be so stupid. How, how, how can Americans be so stupid?
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Iran is an ally of Syria fighting against outside powers and foreign jihadists who were invited by Assad enemies to wreak havoc in Syria. Israel wants a war with Iran and he wants the US to fight it. Netanyahu thinks he has the ability to manipulate Trump to not only end the international nuclear pact with Iran, but get into a major confrontation with Iran. Israel is currently involved with a continuation of their criminal behavior against Palestinians in Gaza. Not to mention Netanyahu' s serious legal problems from personal corruption. Added to this Trump's fondness for Saudi Arabia and Crown Prince Mohammed. Supplying US weapons to bomb civilians in Yemen. Mohammed would like nothing better than world wide war against Shiites. The neo con plan remains intact destroy Iraq, Libya and Syria's regime then go after Iran. Kim of North Korea can see what's going on. The axis of evil label may not be openly stated anymore but it still drives US policy.
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The editorial fails to address the most important issue raised by the Israeli intelligence coup. That is, the Iranians lied every step of the way along the path to the 2015 agreement, including crucially failing to abide by its commitments to full disclosure of past activities to the IAEA,
We are now asked to believe that Iran has been, is, and will scrupulously abide by the restrictions placed upon them in this agreement despite proof that they have engaged in massive lies and deceptions for the past two decades.
The flimflam here is not in Natanyahu's speech, it is in the Times' insistence that Iran can be trusted despite the mountain of proof that the US has basically funded terrorism and made the Mullahs rich with a deal with an untrustworthy bunch of Islamist zealots.
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The NYT knows Iran cannot be trusted but their blind hatred of Trump and his allies counts for more than any Iran lies.
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This opinion piece seriously downplays the dangers of Iran’s ability to achieve a nuclear weapon within the near term future. While it is true that Iran suspended its nuclear weapons program in 2003, it continued to enrich Uranium of the quality to make a bomb, shortening its breakout time when it decided the time was right.
Thus, the NYT, in a 2007 article reporting that US intelligence agencies were unanimous on Iran’s suspension of its nuclear program, also reported that Iran was very much bent on eventually returning to that program:
“The estimate concludes that it would be difficult to persuade Iran’s leaders to abandon all efforts to get nuclear weapons, given the importance of getting the bomb to Iran’s strategic goals in the Middle East.”
The deal allowed Iran to retain all of its centrifuges. Although taken off line, they can easily be restored to service. Thus, in a July 29, 2016 article by the Harvard Kennedy School Belfer Center entitled “Iran’s Breakout Time Drops Below Administration Benchmarks” Iran had already committed to upgrade its centrifuges by 2026 to reduce its breakout time to mass produce weapons-quality uranium.
If these facts do not proclaim the substance and spirit of the deal, if not already dead, in critical condition, it is difficult to understand how there can be reasonable opposition to renegotiating this deal. Especially in light of upcoming negotiations with North Korea.
Meanwhile Iran has developed an ICBM that can reach the US.
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Bibi's little performance piece brought back to my mind the memory of Richard Nizon delivering a televised address during the height of the Watergate investigations. He sat at a desk next to a stack of 3-ring binders and pointed to them as an indication of how cooperative and forthright he had been with the investigators.
Of course, each binder contained only one to three pages of actual text, but it LOOKED like a lit.
Now if we could only give Netanyahu that sweaty upper lip.
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Netanyahu cries wolf, accusing Iran of hiding a nuclear development program, but he selectively ignores:
1) the U.S. false intelligence pretext for Invading Iraq to destroy Weapons of Mass Destruction;
2) the coordinated U.S.- Israeli cyber attack "stuxnet" on Iran with malware to destroy software components of Iran's nuclear program; and
3) recent Israeli air strikes on Homs to destroy Iranian bases in Syria.
The JCPOA , signed with Iran by the P+1 includes IAEA inspections and was approved the UN Security Council. It's not perfect, but it is working and is far better than nothing. President Trump and John Bolton to note.
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So faux and friends fans, are you ready to send your children and grandchildren to invade and occupy Iran?
This agreement was all about trying to move Iran from theocracy to a more realistic state, realizing that knowledge doesn’t get erased in the meantime. If you are bothered by nukes, why not discuss denuclearization of the Mid East period?
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"Iran isn’t the region’s only destabilizing force."
True.
The messianic radicals in Israel who talk to God and get his message back that they should keep expropriating land on the West Bank are also destabilizing.
In fact, lunatic radicals the world over - from Iran to Israel to the Republican "Freedom Caucus" are the problem, their tortured, paranoia plaguing normal, decent people who find it easy to get along and creatively make progress with each other.
Like the movement among Israelis and Iranians who have engaged in cross-cultural connection and realize that these two peoples are some of the smartest, most creative, entrepreneurial, fun-loving, willing-to-be-normal and get along types in the region.
They like each other!
Don't let the vicious cynics in either Israel or Iran or our White House get in the way of positive, purposeful, productive Jews and Muslims from everywhere who know they can get along.
Reject Bibi.
Reject Trump.
Reject paranoid radicals who hate themselves and want company in their holes.
They offer death.
We know we can have life.
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I agree with Chuck Schumer and Ben Cardin, who correctly opposed the nuclear deal as presented but who now feel it must be kept in force. But what did Iran do with all those funds we
made available to them in 2015? It's hard to believe that lots
didn't go to their thus far successful inroads into Syria and, just
as basic, that they're just as ready as they were before the treaty
to realize their atomic ambitions. Both of these factors continue to present a very serious threat to Israel, and Netanyahu is more
than justified in reviving this issue. Thus, I don't think it would be
inappropriate to demand a thorough review and possible revision
in certain aspects of the treaty that really need to be rethought.
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I assume the NYT ran the following editorial in September 1939:
"Documents stolen from Adolf Hitler reveal that, contrary to his public statements, he had every intention of invading Czechoslovakia before Chamberlain and Hitler reached their compromise. These documents make the Munich Agreement reached between the two even more important for securing peace in Europe."
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Great post but NYT opinion would be totally contingent of who negotiated the agreement and if they are of the same political persuasion of NYT as that counts more than any logic.
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Wow. Gold star for flse equivalency. Israel is hardly in the same place as England was. Israel is a nuclear power. Britain was struggling to get ready for a war with antiquated arms.
There has been no parallel to the military buildup of Germany.
It IS true that BN wants Iran dealt with but he has no interest in doing so himself. It is NOT true that drawing a parallel between 1939 and now is valid in any sense.
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What everyone who disparages Netanyahu's presentation ignores is the data about the team who worked on the Iranian nuclear project. They have all(the living ones) moved over to a secret IRGC program which is beyond the purview of the IAEA. Netanyahu's argument is that they belonged to the NPT program and cheated by having a nuke weapon program. They lied about that all along. The existing agreement does not provide for inspection of all of their sites, only the known, non-military sites. Even the known military sites did not permit inspectors. Given that they lied before, and that their nuclear team members have disappeared into the Revolutionary Guard system, it is reasonable to assume that they have not stopped their nuclear work. Further, as they continue to develop their ballistic missile program, which can have only one purpose, to deliver a nuke, only the blind will not see that they don't need to turn on their nuclear weapons program because it wasn't turned off, just hidden.
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Step right up folks! Volume 5 of Bibi's Flimsy Facts is available now! Fully illustrated, with short sentences for those with short attention spans! Operators are standing by to take your call! All major credit cards accepted! The first 50 callers will also receive a souvenir copy of The Lazy Warmonger's Guide to Yellowcake and Aluminum Tubes!
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I have long felt that much of our foreign policy is strongly influenced by Tel Aviv. The tail wags the dog, and does it so well.
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Frightening that Netanyahu would prevaricate to the extent that this article reveals regarding the Iran nuclear deal. For one so beleagured in a Muslim/Arab world, where settlements continue in his country regardless of continued protests, with no attempts to live as one nation, this country must not listen, as it does too often, to Bibi.
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As has been documented, included in the New York Times, Israel has in its history weighed using nuclear weapons against its enemies. And Israel was not planning to clear any such use with us, its sponsors in the Middle East.
I would include Israel among the group of countries whose nuclear capability should scare anyone.
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The flimflam was how the Obama administration and it's supporters said " Of course, we're not naive. We know they're lying and will continue to lie but we can monitor them." It's a big country and we can't know what they're doing. Only someone who thinks we are all gullible would say they could.
Not at all by the way, would it have been an acceptable "deal" if our country had been the one threatened with obliteration by instead of Israel?
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A classic case of 'Wag the Dog'. Mr. and Mrs. Netanyahu are both in trouble with the law. They are being charged with being corrupt. Like Trump, Bibi knows that the best defense is to distract and attack. He's a dangerous man because his deceptive practices, for purely self-motivated reasons, could endanger peace and ultimately lives. All to protect himself and remain in power.
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What a sophomoric attempt at persuasion. It was both insulting in intent and even worse so in its commission. My support for Israel runs deep. It is both genetic and exquisite in my life. However, Mr. Netanyahu, certainly having the years of time to define a solution, has avoided one and will leave his government and both people both bereft and stranded.
Our President may be easily conned (it takes one to know one) but the rest of us are insulted, as two men slow-dance towards greater global instability.
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Mr. N and his wife are embroiled in multiple scandals - Like Trump, he needed a diversion -
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Netanyahu is willing to fight hie enemies to the last American life and dollar. There is no threat that Israel the fifth largest nuclear power in the world can not handle on its own. Let them fight their own wars and destroy their own perceived threats and leave us alone.
At the same time I am the first one to state winning more and more wars will not buy Israel peace or everlasting security. Only through treating Palestinians with dignity and allowing them to prosper as equal will Israel achieve permanent security. Time to change course Mr Netanyahu.
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Iran used the lifting of sanctions to fund its aggressive campaign of regional hegemony and terror throughout the Middle East. It has delayed, but never changed, its plans to build a nuclear weapon, with the capability of its ICBM’s to reach the United States.
Former President Obama’s policy to retreat and withdraw from the Middle East created a power vacuum that Russia and Iran filled, brings the United States closer to war. The major Arab states are threatening to have their own nuclear weapons if Iran isn’t stopped. What a mess that would be.
We would all like to see peace with the Palestinians, but it takes two to tango. You can’t place the blame all on Israel.
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Supporters of the Obama administration’s concessionary nuclear deal with Iran — such as the New York Times and Steven Simon — are now predictably disparaging the significance of Israel’s proof (the authenticity of which they do not challenge) that Iran has consistently lied about its massive program to develop nuclear weapons.
Old news, they say. Everyone knew Iran was lying; that’s why we needed the agreement! The important thing is that Iran is now scrupulously complying with restrictions which, the Obama administration assured us, cut off any path to an Iranian bomb.
Of course, Iran didn’t comply with the agreement, which required that it make a clean breast of its previous nuclear activities to the International Atomic Energy Agency. But what is really rich in all this is that supporters of the deal have always responded to criticism of its sunset provisions by pointing out that the agreement commits Iran to never, ever, develop a nuclear weapon. They have asked us to take comfort from that commitment, and now tell us that Iran’s lies just don’t matter.
Iran has brazenly violated the JCPOA. Absent Iran’s prompt agreement to revisions of that accord along the lines outlined by President Trump, it’s time for sanctions (in President Obama’s oft-repeated phrase) to “snap back.”
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How many nuclear weapons does Israel have?
How did the 6 million Christian Muslim Arab Palestinian Israelis under the dominion of 6.1 Zionist Jewish Israelis by occupation, blockade /siege, exile and 2nd class citizenship vote in the last Israeli election?
What American state, territory or possession is named Israel?
How much American military aid has America given Israel since the end of World War II?
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And all that screed of yours has just what to do with the fact that Iran is cheating, and Obama set it up so that they could?
One group of people cannot demand for another group of people to be restrained, when that first group of people is actively restraining another group of people.
That is to say that all arguments become moot until a two state solution is implemented. ( with all the political dominoes falling down afterwards - along with their failing arguments )
It is as simple as that.
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Was the Atomic Energy Agency able to exam the whole of Iran's program? (NO) They gave Iran a passing grade because they were forced to by Political pressure. It's like giving police a tour of your house when they suspect you of murder and locking the basement and saying "oh, nothing to see here" and moving along with them accepting that answer. What BiBi showed was concrete proof (not speculation, even if the speculation was correct) that Iran lied every step of the way into the deal. When two parties enter into a contract, and one party was fraudulently induced into entering the contract, the aggrieved party can void the contract. President Trump needs to do just that.
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Has the International Atomic Energy Agency ever been able to exam the whole or any part of Israel's nuclear weapons program?
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Blackmamba, can you prove when has any Israeli politician ever said they were going to wipe Iran or any other country off the map with nuclear weapons?
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Do not tell that to Trump. He is hell-bent on undoing everything Obama did!
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Most smart people wish exactly that, since so much of what he did is disastrous for the US.
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The goal of this is obvious. Give trump cover to ditch the Iran deal. Then, the Israeli's will find "evidence" of a looming threat and voila'. The U.S. takes care of his adversary. U.S. troops come home in body bags or with PTSD. The U.S. gets into another unwinnable war. Defense industry stocks soar. It's all good. Just like Iraq.
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The Iran deal has benefitted the U.S.A. and everyone in the Middle East. It has not harmed Israel. Netanyahu offers no new evidence to the contrary. He offers nothing but hatred, lies, distortions and fear mongering.
Americans should be asking themselves this question: Whom does the Republican Party and their government, specifically President Trump, represent, Israel or the United States?
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After the Iran deal was consummated, Iran developed an ICBM, suited to carry nuclear warheads when the time has come for Iran to “breakout.”
Who do you think Iran had in mind when it developed this Intercontinental Ballistic Missile? It certainly doesn’t need one to reach Israel. The Unites States was always in Iran’s sites. It hates the US, at least as much as it hates Israel, for US policy propping up the Sha. Israel merely assisted the US.
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Does Israel have a nuclear program?
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(If Israel does have Nukes) Does Israel threaten to wipe a country or countries off the map with them? (*Whispers... No*)
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Blaiguy,
Yea Israel does threaten to wipe a country off the map. Israeli politicians talk non stop about doing away with the 2 state solution and keeping "Judea and Samaria" for the Jewish people in perpetuity. Israel has been spending the last 70 years doing their best to wipe another country off the map.
When Israel comes clean about its nukes then Ill listen to their bleating about Iran. Otherwise, pot meet kettle.
Israel does have a nuclear program, but they haven't threatened to destroy any countries with it despite Iran calling to destroy Israel countless times over and in the open, which is why we can trust Israel with nuclear weapons and not Iran.
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