Ex-Boss of Larry Nassar Is Charged With Criminal Sexual Conduct (28nassar) (28nassar)

Mar 27, 2018 · 82 comments
Pajama Sam (Beavercreek, OH)
(1) Aside from all the other negative and creepy things going on here, having porn of any kind (let alone *students*!) on a work computer *owned by the university* is profoundly, over-the-top stupid! The Dean would deserve to be fired for this level of stupidity regardless of any other factors. As it is, it's a shame he can only be fired once. (2) It's a shame that all this will detract from the fact that (like all Big 10 colleges), Michigan State is an excellent university with high-rated research programs in many fields. Even after this disturbing news, I would have no problem sending my children there.
Susan R (NYC)
The trustees are fiscally responsible, right? If they knew about abuse and didn't fire him then they should have to pay for the lawsuits as well, not just him. Forget firing them, they have to pay. If trustees and board members were truly fiscally responsible for criminal obstruction of justice, bam! these cases would stop overnight. C'mon Michigan, if you are REALLY sorry, prove it.
sidney orr (san francisco)
Michigan State is far from the only US university with bad behavior such as this - and worse - over several decades. More scandals will ensue, despite that many universities are busy destroying incriminating documents - as they have been advised by their armies of "risk management" lawyers. One lamentable - and related - area - of many, is medical malpractice, intentionally covered up, and aided by ridiculously short statute-of-limitations in states where universities have great lobbying power.
Shamrock (Westfield)
Cute usage of the back of the football scoreboard in a story that has nothing to do with football. Solid journalism.
Frank (Florida)
Many people only know various colleges by their sports teams. I would have considered using a picture of the Dean in question tacky and tabloid journalism. If the picture is of University property I see no difference between a main building shot and this, though the symbol of the team may help more people place the story mentally on a map.
Mike McGuire (San Leandro, CA)
We don't know yet that "the story," broadly defined, has "nothing to do with football." Keep watching, and please, Times, keep reporting. It would be lovely, though, if football turned out to be an island of common decency in Michigan State athletic endeavors, particularly regarding how women have been treated there.
Roger (Michigan)
The MSU story is a sad one but the news seems to be a part of a much bigger picture in worldwide news over the last few months and, to me, is positive and not negative. Examples of good news are women at last being heard about sexual harassment, Facebook (finally) getting scrutinized, dirty money going into building, cars etc. being highlighted, extreme right wing politicians in the States reviewing whether they can be re-elected and there is more of course. When so many people have abandoned newspapers and get their "news" "free" at Facebook, it is encouraging to see real journalism at its best both in the States and Europe by probing and publishing. Let's hope it leads to change for the better.
William (Westchester)
It is encouraging to think exposing presumed sinners at a high level will work wonders for society. A person will have one less worry if they are above suspicion. What is the science of determining the likelihood of transgressive behavior between administrators and the administered in advance? The NRA has a rating system testing gun friendliness. Here we are relying on accreditation and superior oversight. Perhaps these young victims should be carrying portable sirens, if not hand guns. Failing preventative measures, there is still growth possible in surveillance. They can hire someone to watch them.
Gitchigumi (Michigan)
I am an alum of Michigan State University and now conduct research at MSU. I cannot even begin to express the level of disgust that is felt by all of the faculty/staff and students that I have contact with. We began getting emails from L. Simon when this story first broke and we, now, continue to receive constant emails from J. Engler (the interim president) telling us how committed they are to making sure this never happens again. My problem is that neither of them have ever said this should have never happened to begin with.
Susan R (NYC)
And talk is free. Are the trustees and administrators who knew about this and did nothing going to serve jail time OR pay part of lawsuits? Anything less is not actually sorry, not repentance.
Lawrence (Washington D.C.)
It seems that today universities are run for university administrators and the sports machine. Any resemblance to an educational institution is entirely coincidental.
Daniel Kinske (West Hollywood, CA)
A Trump won state too, big surprise.
Shamrock (Westfield)
And college administrators are overwhelmingly liberal.
Kathleen Ruby (Viola, I’d)
Faculty often lean more liberal, yes. But administrators, and the boards of trustees that advise them, no. These folks, most often, are people who have been successful in business, or somehow accumulating vast sums of money. They lean conservative.
Think (Wisconsin)
And white males. Complicity by educated, upper class, males in positions of power - the political beliefs of those individuals is irrelevant. This creep not only knew about what Nasser was doing (and failed and refused to report it to law enforcement, which probably is a crime itself), he also engaged in sexual harassment and unwanted touching (and this is only what we know so far). Liberal, conservative, apolitical - doesn't matter. This behavior is criminal, immoral, unethical. If it occurred on MSU property, or by MSU staff, it reflects on the entirety of that university.
Marvant Duhon (Bloomington Indiana)
Those guilty of such villainies with children should suffer public humiliation, professional ruin, and in cases like this not insignificant jail time. I am a nurse and I tell you that this could not all have happened without significant collusion from not just administrators, but from other doctors as well. Of course I also believe that grabbing the private parts of unwilling women is wrong. Most Republicans, male and female, didn't just vote for such a perp, they adulated him and still do. They do not condemn such behavior; perhaps most of them they aspire to it. So my opinions are not in touch with those of many today.
sidney orr (san francisco)
Nope - no block or demographic of any type of voter condones such behavior, Its unrealistic and uninformed to think so. If anything, a case can be made that conservative voters are less forgiving of such behavior. The best case that can be made probably supports conclusions that felonious, bad, abominable behavior is independent of political stripes.
Shiloh 2012 (New York NY)
And this, my friends, is how the old boy network thrives and survives: members cover for each other, shut their eyes, close their ears and blame anyone not in their group for their members’ wrongdoing.
Suppan (San Diego)
Question 1: What is the difference between Osteopathic and Allopathic medicine? 2: If there is a difference, why do we have two different systems practising under one umbrella? 3: If there is NO difference, why do we need two systems when just one with the best practices and knowledge of both systems will do?
AE (France)
After the Penn State travesty involving Sandusky and his unethical faculty cohorts, the Michigan State scandal does nothing but add another piece of evidence of the pernicious arrogance of the American university today. American colleges have by and large abandoned their original mission of service to the student. The latter must content themselves with undergraduate courses taught by exploited coadjutants with zero change of ever attaining tenure, whilst a slob like Strampel complacently acts as if he can treat the campus like a swingers' club. Only a naive fool would send money to his/her alumni fund today !
Steve (New York)
You may have a point but this article has nothing to do with what you write about. It was at an osteopathic medical school, not an undergraduate school and there are no real equivalents of your "exploited coadjutants" at these this school.
Uzi (SC)
MSU is my Alma Mater. The university's shameful scandal brings into focus a key point. Institutions of higher learning used to be the jewel of the crown among the universe of public institutions. Are the golden years of American universities over?
sidney orr (san francisco)
After several decades working in Higher Ed at large universities, I realized that there's no area of study unaffected by corruption, or fatally uninformed political correctness. Moreover, one need only read inner-circle periodicals over a period of a few years, and only sometimes read between the lines, to come to the same conclusion: US academia has been corrupted by the mad grab for coin-of-the-realm, and/or for power- unjustified by skills or knowledge or intellectual curiosity.
Jerry S (Chelsea)
There was something going on very wrong at Michigan State, and I'm sure it was more than Nasser and Strampel. Next they will have to explain why football and basketball players who assaulted women were not punished, or even reported. The former president who resigned never expressed any responsibility and the minimum of regret to the women who were abused. I hope this whole investigation leads to her being held accountable, too. And whoever else willfully covered all this up, for the sake of winning, and raising money for the school.
Mysterious Stranger (New York, NY)
When are we going to do a full investigation of Nassar, et al's relationships with medical colleagues, trainees and patients to begin to root out and expose medical professionals who sexually abuse patients, students and residents? These two men, I suspect, have a long history of abuse hidden behind the white coat of medical heirarchy and white male privilege which may have it's roots in their residencies or perhaps earlier in their training. Let's do all we can to get the medical, academic and scientific communities off the plantation. It's time for these willfull abuses to stop. Times up!
Steve (New York)
I would think that any school that allows someone who is accused of the crimes Strampel is to be the top official has serious problems and should be investigated. It's very hard to believe that none of the faculty at the school knew anything about what he is accused of doing so either they were unbelievably ignorant of what was going on under their noses or they were complicit in his activities.
carrucio (Austin TX)
Meryl Streep Syndrome. She had no idea about her close friend Harvey......
Michigander (Alpena, MI)
I just read the complaint (http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/03/read_the_criminal_complaint_.... Any evidence from a student, such as a recording after the student's first visit to his office, would have doomed the guy. The risks he was taking make no sense for a rational actor.
NEM (Chicago)
I am an alum of MSU-COM & I am dismayed. So is my husband and many of my friends.....we are all committed, hardworking, dedicated physicians who have become members of the medical communities in the private setting as well as in academic practices (Mayo, Univ of Michigan, Univ of Chicago & beyond) here in the US and abroad. Many of us have achieved a great deal academically - fellowships, additional graduate degrees and the like. We have achieved this through hard work and a great education. Some of us teach internationally & train health care workers in resource poor settings. We are also training residents (osteopathic AND allopathic) at our respective institutions. MSU has many fine professors - osteopathic, allopathic, and basic science - who have dedicated themselves to training the next generation of physicians. They are to be commended and I am so sorry that they are working under this stain. The Larry Nassar scandal was a shock and a disappointment to us but even more damaging to his many victims (the gymnasts, their families and his own family, no doubt). Where is the sense of decency and leadership? Lou Anna Simon should undergo the same scrutiny as William Strampel. She is equally as guilty, in my opinion. William Strampel was quietly viewed as a poor choice by many students when he became dean. How is it possible that we perceived that he was often creepy and inappropriate and Lou Anna Simon and her board of trustees did not?
carrucio (Austin TX)
In the world of academic bureaucracy, it's go-along to get-along.
Mary A (Sunnyvale CA)
Did you report his inappropriate behavior? See something, say something!
John M. WYyie II (Oologah, OK)
That this was allowed to happen is totally inexcusable. The fact that the charges are so mild is even worse. This University needs to be have its accreditation put on probation for at least five years, until it can prove it can provide a safe and valid academic and living environment. And it needs to be placed in financial receivership by the state with funding provided in increments and only as it meets stiff requirements to clean up its act and fast.
Mysterious Stranger (New York, NY)
What an excellent, meaningful, intelligent suggestion!
Blue (St Petersburg FL)
So confusing. Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women, has been accused by numerous women of inappropriate contact And he is president - with the majority of the white women vote cast. Jones “dates” women under 18 and loses - but again with the support of the majority of the white women vote When will this end? When white men AND women stop tolerating - and rewarding - it.
Dama (Burbank)
What did the Michigan board of medicine know and when did they know it?
11211 (BK, NY)
Where sexual harassment lies, other kinds of misbehavior lie, like embezzlement, child and spousal abuse, and every other kind of abuse like going postal.
Sarah (Chicago)
Shame on my law school alma mater :(
Mel Farrell (NY)
I'm learning not to be surprised by anything, in this world, anymore.
Sakura (Tokyo)
It is finally starting to make sense how Mr. Nassar was able to perpetrate these crimes for so long. There were not only enablers who looked the other way and societal norms that rejected the notion of a privileged white male doctor committing abuse, but also a partner in crime who not only knew what was happening but also was taking pleasure in it. It's unsurprising that it turned out to be a 70 year old white male in power with what seems to be ideas of workplace norms from the 1950s and 1960s.
Alex (Indiana)
Dr. Strampel is entitled to his day in court, and it sounds like he will get it. Some of the things alleged in this article, such as nude photographs of female students on his computer, should be easy to prove or disprove. And there appear to be multiple witnesses. If guilty, he deserves severe punishment, likely including a lengthy jail term. Since he is 70, this may well be effectively a life sentence. There's a good chance his own malfeasance helped enable Larry Nassar. But, he is still entitled to his day in court, and it's probably premature to convict him in the media.
Just Me (USA)
He's guilty. Too many women who are doctors answered inquiring investigators and the criminal charges against him are the result. Plus if Strampel did all he is accused of doing, other people such as university employees were also interviewed. No doubt a number of them will be state witnesses against him.
Mysterious Stranger (New York, NY)
You can only convict someone in court. Let's be real here. This report is an attempt to inform the public of long standing criminal behavior and possible collusion or collaboration which can be verified by competent, credible adults (at least) and digital surveillance. Women and men have a right to voice their opinions and concerns in this matter without admonition from anyone. It is understood that he will have his day in court and he brought this on himself.
APS (Olympia WA)
No wonder Nassar was protected for so long! He was feeding his violations to his boss!
Heather (Michigan)
To all the commenters saying we need more women in leadership, I agree wholeheartedly... but a female gymnastics coach at MSU repeatedly discouraged women from reporting Nassar (and will I hope get what she deserves for that). We need a much bigger cultural change than can be achieved by just adding some women in leadership.
Jen (San Francisco)
The problem is that when there are not a lot of women, women tend to act more like men. Self protective really, being a bit macho to get by. Why rock the boat when it'll only dump you out but not your male boss. Get to a certain gender balance, and women can start dropping the act. Stuff like this gets acted on.
Jerry S (Chelsea)
The President who resigned was a woman and never took any responsibility for what happened, and she described why she resigned as politics. That is horrible, so it's not just male Vs. female. It's people who value decency over winning at sports and over raising money for the school. I read the school might have to pay out 500 million in settlements. So her being a good fund raiser has just gone down the toilet.
Lillie NYC (New York, NY)
Apply a lot of bleach to the whole department. Sadly this will cast a shadow on any and all who had standing in that department. Will be the price they pay for going along to get along.
fly (wall)
Why is this news buried almost at the bottom of your homepage? Why isn't it at the top, where it should be? Is it too embarrassing for MSU, is it too embarrassing for the U.S. of A. that these things are happening in this country? A sex-psychopath-pervert as dean of a medical school... what's wrong with this picture? How could this even have happened? Maybe not enough checks and balances? And how about some common sense rules, like that ONLY female physicians and M.D.'s can be in charge of treating and providing services to female athletes/students? It seems to me that the whole system was DELIBERATELY designed with all these flaws and loopholes to ALLOW these things to happen: "Well, this is a golden opportunity to abuse scads of teenage girls and young women... think of all the things we'll be able to do!... All the things we'll be able to get away with!" SOMBODY, it seems, was thinking along those lines... FIND THAT PERSON! PROVE to me that this isn't the case!!!
Laughingdragon (SF BAY)
It's often remarked that criminal perverts conspire to protect each other. When found, they should be prosecuted and imprisoned.
Just Me (USA)
And beaten every day while in prison.
Sammy (Florida)
Until more women are at the top, in business, in tech, in academia, this type of abuse and harassment will continue. Sadly, men in power have repeatedly and regularly shown that they will not mind themselves or their bros.
Mark Shyres (Laguna Beach, CA)
I once sold my business to a female executive who sexually harassed everyone...male and female including myself (I stayed on as a consultant until it became unbearable). I think, in retrospect, she saw herself as a "seducer" rather than a harasser, but it was more of a control and power trip for her. She encourage multiple relationships not only between her and her employees but also vendors and contractors. My point here is that putting women at the top may not always solve the problem of harassment. On the other hand, maybe she was an exception. Several of the people she "seduced" claimed afterwards she was exceptionally unexceptional.
Alex (Indiana)
I remind you that the previous president of Michigan State, from 2003 until her forced resignation a few months ago, was a woman.
Janey (California)
Women having power, being "at the top," does not stop such behavior. Women look away too.
Tony (New York City)
We have trusted our colleges to the fault that we refused to think that anything could be happening that was corruptband sick. Dreams for our children to do well and be happy adults blinded us to the sick people who would prey on our children in the college hallways... The adults were hired to provide an outstanding education ,opportunities not to destroy our children and our lives forever. Every administrator in all cases needs to be found out and pay for there see no evil mentality. This country needs a complete overhaul and the ones running around pretending they have character need to be held accountable. This is the top once again of the iceberg. We have no idea how many other departments are up to no good.
Chris (Arlington, VA)
Michigan State is starting to look a lot like Penn State.
Matthew (Tallahassee)
This is the biggest serial rape case in US history--Nasser violated 100s of girls. Up to now, MSU has been able to deflect some of the blame by saying that some of the rapes took place elsewhere. But knowing that an MSU administrator abetted casts the story in a far uglier light. We now know not only that the rapes could have been stopped at several places along the way at MSU but that others were both committing them and complicit. It makes it harder to separate cases where both football and basketball coaches shielded their players from justice in cases of sexual abuse, and a DOE finding that a climate of sexual intimidation prevailed campus-wide. And it raises new questions about how the university president--who had various warnings--could not have had a better sense of what was going on. This is evil of a fairly pervasive nature.
Mary A (Sunnyvale CA)
It’s worse!
Mickey Davis (NYC)
Why in the world would a state university have an osteopathic medical school? Osteopathy, rejected by scientists as an evidence based discipline to the extent it exists as one, was tolerantly absorbed by the scientific establishment to avoid a greater battle that science would have won. Time to end this farce and the danger it poses of accepting, as science, doctrines that have no scientific merit (such as "The body is a... body, mind, and spirit," and capable ... self-healing...."). We don't need spirit in medical classrooms, if it exists, nor is there much to self healing as a doctrinal subject when we are sick. To emphasize self healing, as only one example, to the exclusion of all other possibilities (the field announces this as it's whole and singular form of healing) is more religion, or simple nonsense, than science. It has no place in a state university medical school. It becomes a school for quacks or worse
EZ (USA)
Osteopaths in the United States are osteopathic physicians and practice the full scope of modern medicine. In many foreign countries your comments may have some validity. In the USA osteopathic medical schools teach many of the subjects as regular medical schools and DO's often practice in the same medical groups as folks with MD after their names. What do you call the student graduating in last place in medical school? ANSWER - DOCTOR.
Mickey Davis (NYC)
Yes that's my point. I don't want a doctor who graduated last. And that is sadly what all osteopaths are. The admissions criteria (MCAT, SATs,GPAs, GREs) for those schools, most of them unknown, are demonstrably lower than for real, and I use the word quite intentionally, medical schools. I don't like to say this to you but I didn't raise the issue, you did, and that is these schools are for medical school rejects who won't or can't get into one of the real Caribbean ones. Ask osteopath may be a doctor in name, but that's as far as it goes.
Realist (Ohio)
As a well regarded academic (allopathic) physician (clinician, author, administrator, all that) who has trained residents and fellows for 40 years, I must protest your...misinformation, Mickey. Some of my best trainees and some of the best physicians have attended osteopathic schools. Often they were more sensitive and communicative than some of their allopathic peers. I prided myself on my own test scores and grades ( a fault of mine), but I can tell you that some of the top-grade types are great memorizers but less stellar at compassion, curiosity, or statistical inference. There are all kinds of doctors out there, and they are best judged individually, not by where they went to school..
Jeff Plotkin (Nanuet, New York)
Extrapolating out, beyond the actual victims, how many lives, now and in the future are terrible adversely affected by these "monsters."? Wrecked relationships, suicides etc. They are only remorseful, after they are caught. And they are caught, only after those who always knew, are finally backed to the wall.
cortezthekiller (chicago)
Amazing to me that in the face of these failures, Anna K. Simon and initially all but one trustee resisted the notion that she should resign as president. That level of arrogance and indifference is stunning. Of all the great institutions in America, universities are the least accountable; their stock can't be tanked by the market, and their officials face no electorate.
5barris (ny)
Michigan university trustees are elected state-wide in the November general election along with federal and other state officials.
Bing Ding Ow (27514)
Fact: Michigan is the *only* state that elects board members of major universities (MSU, U-M, Wayne).
JY (IL)
Next time they wax eloquent about their noble job they are doing ...
St. Patrick (NC)
I went here. He hooded me. Prior to pronouncing him guilty in the court of public opinion, I will await the judgement from the court.
Bing Ding Ow (27514)
MSU is surrounded by FBI and state police detectives, and dozens of trial lawyers. Wait all you want, it is the worst mess in MSU history.
Matthew (Tallahassee)
Do what you need to do. No thoughtful person will envy or begrudge you. Let's hope it doesn't harm your reputation or future prospects, that you are not a collateral victim.
Mysterious Stranger (New York, NY)
I await the justice of the courts and pray that it is not conferred by a jury of sex-offending, privileged white male peers.
seattle expat (Seattle, WA)
The fact that this dean ws able to get away with his behavior for so long suggests that this kind of thing is quite common at universities, and the few cases we hear about are probably the tip of an iceberg. The implication that underperforming students were allowed to get a degree also has serious implications for their patients.
St. Patrick (NC)
I'll start by identifying myself as a graduate of this exact program, while Strampel was dean. Absolutely no issues from my vantage point (i.e. the basement fourteen hours a day studying, then the hospital wards sixteen hours a day working). Prior to judging, take a look at yourself. Then, wait to see what the court finds. DO
Avery (Maine)
Is it possible that those 30-hour days might have clouded your observations?
Tony (New York City)
I have and I know for a fact I am not a monster whose goal is to destroy other people's lives and then pretend I didn't know.
Scott (Los Angeles)
So revoking the NCAA eligibility for about ten years is not acceptable punishment? Where is justice for victims?
Bing Ding Ow (27514)
S, what does women's golf have to do with Larry Nassar? Facts and reality -- they are helpful.
Sandi (Garden State-New Jersey)
Moms need to be in the examining room with their children.
Gitchigumi (Michigan)
Sadly, this guy was so good that many of the girls mothers were in the room at the time of the assaults.
J B (Chicago, IL)
Nassar still did it even with moms in the room. Terrifying that no one knew what was truly happening.
Bing Ding Ow (27514)
Again .. NYTimes had the best story, to explain the legal elements of the case -- https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/well/live/pelvic-massage-can-be-legit... From his first days as medical physician in the late 1990s, patients complained that Nassar had terrible "bedside manner." Today, with social media and public rating boards for providers, he wouldn't last six months, IMHO.
Phyliss Dalmatian (Wichita, Kansas)
Physician, heal thyself. Preferably in a small, solitary cell.