How does Trump and the Tillerson State Dept react should Kim seek a Peace Treaty...ending this absurd armistance based standoff? (Im guessing Tillerson faints, as he knows he has no staff to pull that off. Maybe calls Rodman in...)
If I'm Kim, I put the Treaty on the table. Forget everything else..."lets talk about this absurd standoff. Lets move on. Lets have peace, now. What say you Mr Deal maker, you also a man of peace?"
Would it not be ironic, outrageous, and beyond belief, if Trump actually entered into negotiations with DPRK, reached a mutually agreeable solution, and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? I'm guessing it will never happen, but it might be worth the humiliation most of America would fee.
Guarantee his safety? Why not? Trump loves dictators. No problem there.
What hope? Read this news which just came out, right after the peace talk.
North Korean new media is still, at this moment, claiming that they will never give up the nuclear weapon, and they demand us to drop the US-S.Korea military exercies.
Things are different from other times. Biggest difference is that the South Korean President, President Moon Jae-In works for North Korea, secretly and overtly aiding them, funding them despite the UN and US sanctions to stop North Korea to develope the nuclear weapon that they are willing to use shoot you guys in America. Too difficult to believe? Take a minute and google Viet Nam War and see how it began.
North Korea demands the US army to withdraw from South Korea for good. Do you think this will end the war and bring peace? What about the South Korean nuclear technology which is one of the most advanced in the world? It will be absolved and used for the beneift of the north. Before things get too serious, you have to destroy North Korea, for good.
Yes, I can be hurt and killed in that military actions, for north korean capital city is only two hours away from where I live. But I demand you not to be fooled and act differently for this time, or you will never live in the same peaceful world.
Read the news from the following link. It's in Korean, but you can translate easily with google translator. See if I am telling you the truth.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&oid=001&...
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Kim Jong-un has no intention of giving up his nukes and missiles. Ever. He is buying time and, he hopes, sympathy.
We must insist on on-site verifiable inspections of their at least initiating destruction of their most advanced weapons before relaxing any of the sanctions, and continued progress in their denuclearization to obtain additional sanction relief. Anything else is playing into his plans for unrestrained development of that weaponry.
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N Korea is after the same thing as other countries when they bargain with the United States. Good old AMERICAN green backs. The embargo is taking its toll.
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North Korea may or may not be interested in negotiating with the United States, the bigger problem is there is no one who has the capabilities to negotiate with them. Trump and his ilk do no encourage diplomatic specialists and channels. If these individuals even exist there is no doubt trump would undermine any progress they may make. Certainly, Congress will fail at their role as Checks and Balances as well. We live in the world of the hat trick.
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When you get a call from the principal saying you’re kid smacked another kid you don’t smack your kid and tell him not to smack other kids.
You don’t announce to the world you’re spending billions to upgrade your nuclear arsenal and then punish North Korea for doing the same.
They wanna play with the big boys just like America. Especially when we show off our fire power every time we want to make a point ie Iraq.
Every previous president has said North Korea is a tough problem.
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So in this article the reporter mentions claims by "a white house" official suggesting that North Korea has never kept its promises with respect to previous agreements to deal with the Korean nuclear situation. Although some white house official may have actually said this, it is, none the less, patently false. In fact the USA has been the nation to fail to honor the 1994 agreement on ALL essential points - no reactors built, delayed or missing fuel shipments, ridiculously late removal of sanctions, installation of nuclear threats to the North in South Korea. In fact it is the USA which is the failing party in every way here...and in my opinion, a great paper like the New York Times has also failed say so in this article rather than just paraphrase what some foolish white house official says. How many people in this country believe anything coming from the white house - especially nowadays? Reporting which does not address the truth is just another form of propaganda. Really NYTimes you can do better! Let's see an article that actually sets the record straight! We're never going make progress if we can't at least get the facts right!
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The only reason North Korea is willing to talk now is because it has nukes. It has the ability to retaliate. It has nothing to do with the administration. It’s simply because North Korea would be negotiating from a position of strength.
Suddenly everyone is so happy, willing to forget or ignore the harsh treatment people there are living under.
North Korea never intended to attack. They just wanted to start from a position of strength. Now they have leverage.
We have negotiated with N. Korea before and they have lied and broken agreements. I'm sure this signal that Kim wants to talk has to do with the years of diplomacy through the Obama years and before and that sanctions are working. The N. Korean people are destitute. Also, trump is making war on the S. Koreans with his trade war tariffs. But of course the experts need to negotiate with the Korea's but keep trump and his tweeting out of it.
Perhaps it is in the best interest of South Korea to make a deal with the US for military equipment and increase its troop strength in response to the superior force of the North. This would look something like what Israel does. Kim wants the US off the peninsula and a stronger South Korean military could make that happen.
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NK lies through their teeth.
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The message to Kim Jong Un could not be more clear: first, obtain nuclear weapons, then negotiate. Since he now has nuclear capability, we just might see a sincere willingness to sit down and talk, and to keep his commitments. Previous talks were obviously designed solely to stall US aggression until a nuclear deterrent could be created.
President George W. Bush significantly altered US foreign policy with his preemptive invasion of Iraq. The given reason was to keep Iraq from developing nuclear weapons, since Iraq refused to do what Libya had done and give up their alleged nuclear program. Of course now we know that Saddam's program was pure bluster and nothing of substance. We also know what happened to both leaders. So does every leader in the world.
An enormous step forward would be for the US to bring an abrupt end to the disastrous "Bush Doctrine," and return to the policy of using its massive military might strictly for defensive purposes. This could start with the assurances that Kim Jong Un is seeking, and would extend to any other nation that seeks a nuclear armament as a deterrent to real or perceived US aggression.
The "Bush Doctrine" didn't begin with GW Bush - preemptive strikes had become the norm for US foreign policy. But it has served no useful purpose, has encouraged deep mistrust of our motives, and therefore must end immediately.
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Largely correct, in my view, but the devil is always in the details. What does this mean?
“It made it clear that it would have no reason to keep nuclear weapons if the military threat to the North was eliminated and its security guaranteed.”
What is involved in eliminating the military threat? (I can guess but that is not the point.) Who "guarantees" North Korean security and how is that done? (Again, I can guess but this needs to be elaborated.)
Notice that the South Koreans are talking, the North so far is not. We need to hear from that regime directly. We also need to assume that our own government can and will respond carefully and effectively. Stay tuned.
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And when Libya gave up their weapon program Hillary Clinton initiated military action and had him killed anyway, throwing the country into chaos.
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What the media says all the time about a possible Second Korean War is one thing. The real truth is just another. The truth is that if the North attacks the South, the South Koreans alone, without American help, are able to defeat North Korea in a matter of days, maybe weeks, like Israel always defeated Arab enemies. But the North Koreans know that South Korea won't attack them because in the first hours of such a war, there would be much destruction and death in Seoul's metropolitan area. The real worry the North Koreans have is that Mr. Trump might decide to attack their country and destroy their stalinist starving kingdom with air power, the way George Bush did with Iraq in 2003. That's why they build nukes. Once they are sure America does not want to invade their country, they give up their nukes. Neither China, nor Japan and nor South Korea want a war in the Peninsula. The United States would help a lot if they removed all their remaining troops from South Korea. South Korea is a very powerful, rich and advanced first world country. It can defend itself much better than the media usually says. No enemy will defeat it without food, fuel and a modern air force.
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There is one catch ... Trump + Twitter. Is it time to take his phone away from him?
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South Korea is in danger. President Moon is a communist and his party as well. They have studied Kim il sung theory(Kim jeong un' grandfather) since they were in university. Some of them have met Kim il sung and vowed to him. Still, they support N.Korea and respect their system. In South Korea, they want to revise constitution like N.Korea system. It's not conspiracy theories. It's real. Very similar to Vetnam. They control all the media and keep lying. South Korea is in danger. That's fake peace. WE NEED HELP !!!!
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Without Trump standing up to Kim Jun, this doesn't happen. This would be the first American President to break the North Korean curtain. I hope this results in a peaceful process.
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This is Trumpisim at its best.
All those years of kissing North Korea's butt perpetuated this. One strong message from Trump " business like usual is over ".
Actually my favorite quote was " locked and loaded ", sends an extremely strong message.
Good job so far President Trump
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If Donald Trump is involved in bringing about real change regarding nuclear weapons on the Korean Peninsula AND real change in controlling assault weapons in this country, I will be the first to high five him.
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"Follow the money" is as fundamental a guiding principle to understanding the repressive North Korean government as it is in American politics. The truth is UN security Council resolutions 2371 and 2375 (Google "history of North Korean Sanctions) are working. North Korea will say anything in order to lift sanctions. The security Council sanctions ended funding the NK military elite. Kim Jong-un can power disappears if the lifestyles of his military elite are compromised.
Let's be direct and honest about talks with North Korea. China is no longer interested in financing NK because the defiant missile testing program was not amusing. China will not risk its global economic expansion of power and influence by continuing to support NK. Kim Jong-un must recognize: 1. His threat of using long range nuclear weapons as a bargaining chip in exchange for financial assistance is unacceptable. 2. His weapons program must end before UN Security Economic Sanctions are lifted. 3. No escaping crimes against humanity by his regime. He will either end up a dead man or imprisoned forever if North Korea unifies with South Korea.
The economic sanctions are working. America must recognize how close it is to witnessing chaos and the self implosion of the NK military elite regime. The end game is NK military elites removing, or eliminating, Kim Jong-un as a precursor to North & South Korean reunification.
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Well, it's something Obama never even got close to, you have to admit that....
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This is all optics for NK, we'll be at war with them within the year. Trump has been itching for this for too long. Unavoidable.
I'm willing to give up my nuclear arsenal if you are willing to give up yours.
The fact that an unstable US president could get many Koreans, north & south, killed has driven the two sides to take responsibility for a solution.
The only role of the US should be to guarantee it will come to the defense of South Korea if North were to launch a war. Beyond that, the US should back off, it is not our role to dictate how these two parties should reach rapprochement.
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Good luck with that!
And what about all of the starving, brainwashed people of North Korea?
This is a delusional, surreal endeavor.
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That'd be something, if the current Administration created this problem and tgets peacemaker cred for simply not acting so crazy for awhile.
I keep hearing don’t trust North Korea, & perhaps they are right, but even if they are devious & remain a threat to world peace, how can meeting with them be destructive.I recall the Cold War & the saber rattling of China & Russia. I remember a Soviet General that said a nuclear war would not be the end of the world. Nixon. or I should say Kissinger met with them & convinced them that trading with us is far better than fighting with us , more than anything this ,this ended the Cold War. No, it is not bliss dealing with China & Putin, & Putin is once again threatening Nuclear war, but we have put off going to war. It’s time to meet with North Korea, & offer them a way out of their economic disaster, it may just work.
As far as China & Russia is concerned, & i’m more concerned with Russia , the last thing we should do is take away the US Market with Tariffs, which would put us back into a Cold War, or worst.
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Do not hope on any agreement we can make with NK. It will be violated.
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An anonymous White House "senior official" asserts "the North Koreans have broken every agreement they ever made with the Americans." Many serious students of US-NK relations disagree and some consider the US to have reneged on its commitments.
But, anyway, did it occur to your reporters, editors or fact checkers to confirm that controversial statement?
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NK will agree to stop future tests and to a freeze in place of their current arsenal.
In exchange they will seek a no attack agreement from us and the withdrawal of our troops from SK.
I’d take this deal if SK is comfortable with it.
The longer we can put off military conflict, the more time the people of North Korea have to discover the insanity of their government, and change it.
Of course the North Koreans are going to temporize and deceive. If the roles were reversed, we would do the same. For, let us be honest, we have found a way to justify using nuclear bombs on the Japanese (it saved lives), and we found a way to justify torture after 9/11 (it saved lives). We would find a way to justify our deception also.
There is only one stable solution to this equation: no country should have nukes. The only other solution is that every country will have nukes.
Perhaps North Korea is sincere about this nuclear disarmament initiative...after it's unloaded its technology onto another rogue state.
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You just KNOW that, especially with the powder-keg-in-a-toupée, the GOP will try to scuttle any deal between the Koreas, however well-negotiated or -intentioned, to defend the defense contractors and maintain their hair-trigger-war income.
A shame, since even ONE of their boondoggle planes could fuel more effective weapons against tyranny, like free tuition or single payer.
Peace??? What? We can't have Peace. That will ruin everything!!! What will we do without an enemy?
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Blow us up already. Trump and the GOP have ruined the country,sold out the America people and the environmental future of the planet.
I assume that it should be clear to all that if any good comes of this, then it is the result of 8 years of the Obama presidency. It could not possibly be connected to the Trump presidency.
Of course if this does not work, then it is also clear who is at fault: Mr. Trump of course, with a little George W. Bush thrown in, a man to also be blamed for all seasons.
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Good grief. Don't be silly.
All the credit, of course, will go to the good cop/bad cop routine of Ivanka and Mike Pence at Pyeongchang. But ultimately, we'd all know that a job like denuclearizing the Korean peninsula could only have been masterminded by the "brilliant" Prince Jared.
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As the Trumpist USA (once again!) becomes irrelevant, or worse, in terms of leading the world on major issues like this, countries are taking initiatives on their own.
Good sign, except once they all realize (as many already do) that the USA is no longer capable of positive leadership and is instead an erratic, possibly dangerous force in the world -- politically, economically, and militarily -- they'll turn t each other (as Euros have done too) and leave the USA to its self-destructive path.
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I wish the article had given us an example of America successfully eliminating a nuclear program of a rogue nation and it's strongman : Libya and Gaddafi.
Mr. Indyk, an American diplomat - closely involved - has written a few articles. Without repeating too much, this is what Mr. Indy wrote.
Gaddafi after collapse of Soviet union realized that his Soviet master's were not there to help or shield him from his own "friendly" neighbors. He started a conversation with the Clinton administration that went on through end of Clinton.
Enter W.
Already determined to oust Saddam - according to Mr Indyk, president Bush basically told Gaddafi that either he destroys the program voluntarily or America will do it for him.
Having seen fate of Saddam - Gaddafi gave up.
So, perhaps, all this song and dance by little rocket man - may be - he got a similar telegram from the POTUS.
And hence now a sudden willingness to at least appear to "talk."
But make no mistake - China could still cause problems. China has no interest in resolving this issue. Like our "containment" policy against the Soviets - engineered by Mr Kennan - ditto her. China wants to contain this issue to tie us down.
By tying us down, China hopes we take a pass at its expansionist and belligerent doings in Asia. China wants to pry our allies away and force us to withdraw from IndoPacific.
So, if we are not careful, China just might succeed -
Still a little rocket man and China in control of IndoPacific.
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An increasingly likely outcome is that the DPRK and S. Korea will present a deal-
Signing of a peace agreement and withdrawal of U.S. forces from Korea with a commitment to denuclearization. This would give Trump to his solution of the problem that predecessors could not solve. China has stated that a U.S. attack on the DPRK would be responded to by China. China also desires withdrawal of U.S. forces.
Withdrawal of U.S. forces would eliminate a large defense obligation and expense. It would also radically change the strategic balance in the region.
The steel import duty may have been raised specifically to keep S. Korea in check.
NK will only agree to stop testing and to a freeze in place of they’re arsenal.
In exchange they will seek a no attack agreement from us and the withdrawal of our troops from SK.
I’d take this deal if SK is comfortable with it.
Conditions are right for a deal although no these lines to work.
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Once the Koreans, South and North, got rid of Trump and his nuclear saber-rattling threats, they moved toward resolution of their decades-old conflict. Good for them. We Americans should take the hint.
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Let's set some expectations: Will North Korea cheat? Yes, of course. Will they lie during the negotiations? Yes, so will we. Will they not follow through on parts of the agreement they don't like? Again, yes of course. Will they demand an end to sanctions and the resuming of shipments of aid before taking any substantial actions on dismantling their weapons? Also yes.
We know all this, we have dealt with them before, there should be no surprises here. Even it this goes for years and results in stalemate, it has one outcome that makes it all worthwhile - No one is dying while it happens. We are not lobbing nukes at each other while we are sitting at the table.
One of the things we can offer President Kim as an incentive to stick to any agreement is the services of a good barber. They apparently don't have any in North Korea.
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Difficult to understand others culture isn’t it. Kim hair style is modeled on his admired grandfather but he does not appear to be the clown portrayed in the media but a shred leader getting his way against worldwide opposition. So far he is winning what his clan has been seeking for decades – national security faced off against the world’s great military power; not too shabby for a nation of 25 million.
Difficult to understand others culture isn’t it. Kim hair style is modeled on his admired grandfather but he does not appear to be the clown portrayed in the media but a shrewd leader getting his way against worldwide opposition. So far he is winning what his clan has been seeking for decades – national security faced off against the world’s great military power; not too shabby for a nation of 25 million.
And guess who will take credit for this? Wait for the Mar-a-Lago Peace Accord. It'll go down in history.
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A commemorative plaque there will be dedicated to "covfefe", whose very stable genius alone brought us every aspect and clause of the deal despite his crippling inability to read and his absence in meetings between the Korean leaders who actually wrote it; to the brave first responders who gave their lives in the Bowling Green Massacre; and to the victims of the terror attacks in Sweden (Sweden!).
Meanwhile, Obama ignored the North Korean threat...totally. Left the mess for Trump.
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Once a nation acquires/develops functioning nuclear weapons, they will never relinquished them. History indicates that North Korea will keep their nuclear weapons.
A dead end is what you encounter once you kick the can down the road too many times. Her we are.
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I agree with you that north korea is not acting in good faith and nothing productive will come of this except the kims will win some more concessions. But many countries have given up nuclear arms - south korea and the former soviet block. So there are responsible and reasonable state actors - but north korea isn't one of those and the west remains incredibly naive.
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No. Let them keep what they have.
South Africa developed Nuclear Weapons and then dismanlted all of them. It has been done before and it can happen again.
A long term peaceful resolution will be extremely hard to achieve because of many complex factors:
1)North Korea wants only one thing: The US military bases located in South Korea to be closed. North Korea regime considers it as a permanent threat. In the mean time, if US accepts to leave South Korea, the autocratic North Korea regime will be seriously at risk because the North Korean militaries will see their huge benefits vanished (let’s not forget that they are the most privileged branch of the North Korean population).
2) China: Having a defiant North Korea is an advantage. China wants a geographical buffer zone between South Korea and their border. Unless the US leaves South Korea, China will continue to have a double speech.
3) South Korea: South Korea cannot afford to see North Korea regime collapsing. The country does not have the financial ressources to absorb a massive amount of refugees without putting the country on the verge of bankruptcy. Also, the South Korean population is less and less attracted by having any form of reunification.
4) US: US are obsessed by keeping their military forces in the peninsula, not because of North Korea but because of China and Russia. A peaceful resolution and end of a North Korean regime will not bring any more excuse for US to maintain their military of this part of the world. If US stays while the Koreas are in peace, then high tension might increase between China/Russia and US.
Too risky for everybody to be at peace.
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It looks like Kin Jong-un came to the conclusion that he needs more time in order to develop his missile and nuclear program and therefore a warming up of the North and South Korean relationship was convenient and indicated. In the meantime, everyday that goes by, the North Korean missile and nuclear program advances while the US options remain the same as they were 10 or 20 years ago, in other words: We are stuck!. At any rate, we should give him a last chance to show that he is serious on his offer just because the alternative is complete environmental apocalypses. Let's keep in mind what Ronald Reagan said "Trust but Verify".
On a different note, I believe this is going to be the defining issue of Trump Presidency in the same way that the Cuban missile crises was for Kennedy.
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“There was no other specific demand from North Korea in returning to dialogue,” “They only said they wanted to be treated like a serious dialogue partner.”
Time for calm assessment of Kim’s response to Moon’s envoy;
Pyongyang’s request has been from it first formation a guarantee of national security with some agreement among the major powers, primarily China and the United States, against invasion with one standing as defender against the other. Now armed with a recognized nuclear potential Kim may see a realization very possible arising through negotiations never before realized.
China wants talks, So. Korea wants talks and Trump has indicated their possibility. There are N ways to blow that option away by laying down preconditions being one, but Washington really needs to align its team, and Trump can claim his moment in history he so desires.
A quick look at military history of the early 1950s (less than a single lifespan ago) reveals that the U.S. tried to bomb North Korea back literally to the stone age, dropping more tonnage during the Korean War than in all of WWII, according to one source. Apparently the North Koreans still look to a fearless leader to make sure it never happens again. Imagine how neurotically we would behave if dealing with a much larger adversary with a history of obliterating all of our water and electric facilities. The trauma is still alive. As Faulkner supposedly said, The past isn't dead. It's not even past.
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We dropped more bombs on North Vietnam and now they are a major trading partner.
NK = Kim Jong-un Family LLC
A successful family business that wants to preserve itself at all costs.
The Castro's of Asia.
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The timing of this overture appears to me to be generated by either Putin/Xi to help their protege Trump. North Korea listens to no one, but can only be influenced by China or Russia. No question solving the North Korean mess- even temporarily- will bolster Trump when he likely most needs help. Or in the alternative, just another Lucy and Charlie Brown moment. North Korea will never give up their only source of protection- no matter what. This is just the same old story.
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This is different than under previous Presidents. Trump will require destruction, not suspension, of nuclear facilities and verifiable destruction in return for American concessions. If the North Koreans play the same game as before Trump just might take military action. He is after all unpredictable. Many lives would be lost for sure but the threat of a nuclear attack on our mainland would be ended as would the lives of those in the North Korean regime. The North Korean leader may be playing poker with someone who. doesn't play by the rules.
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You forgot to mention the millions of civilians who would also be killed in both North and South Korea if the U.S. attacks. Oh yeah. Just collateral damage. Nothing to be concerned about.
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Gee I didn't forget to mention that. Re-read my comment. I don't minimize the loss of life and believe a peaceful solution is possible,even probable because of Trump's tough approach.If peace talks fail I would prefer collateral damage to be there and not here. A nuclear bomb on NYC is unthinkable and preventable. Ignoring this could lead to another world war and 50 million people died in WW2.
“I think maybe this has gone further than anyone’s taken it before,” Trump said.
Which is funny because to me it sounds like an old old song, repeatedly endlessly, and as usual leading nowhere. And of course what Trump may "think" about it is utterly irrelevant because he knows nothing about anything except how he's portrayed on Saturday Night Live.
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As Yogi Berra famously put it, "It's déjà vu all over again." When one looks at the situation in North Korea and its brainwashed masses, even to "hope" requires straining ones sensibilities.
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Peace is in the air. Seize the day.
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It is. Too bad seizing the day is nowhere present in the Trump playbook.
He just cannot focus.
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I agree with you, Monti. There are a thousand ways to say "no," one way to say "yes" and no way in between. Let the doves fly and see where they lead.
What they need to do is keep turning the screws...with China's help....The more pressure they can put on, the more they can make Kim sweat, the more likely he is to blink.... a massive carrot (ie: Chinese/SK development aid/economic integration) is the other side of any "deal." NK's GDP is a puny $12b, so even small capital injections (iPhone factories/extending New Silk Road to Pyongyang) could fuel decades of rapid economic growth and make Kim a beloved, rather than feared, Dear Leader. This is one of the things about him. He's seen how the other half lives, having gone to school in Switzerland and wanting to emulate the Chinese growth model. A big stick in terms of ratcheting sanctions, and a big carrot, in terms of rapid economic growth, while not threatening the regime, is the magic key...And, as in other modernizing dictatorships, this offers billions of manna from heaven to sprinkle on elites. There's a path out, but not sure we'll thread that needle....
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While we expand our nuclear "deterrent" right?. How come we're allowed to have a nuclear "deterrent" and North Korea can't?. I'd say that is some kind of sick 'Exceptional' thinking. What is meant by 'Exceptional' thinking? that is when the US thinks they are superior to others because they have a US passport. Scary thinking.
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Well, Larry, without it, it’s quite likely we wouldn’t be hearing from you because chance s are that NYC would have been blown away years ago...
Before NK began overtly the experiments of Nuc bombs and missiles, it must have predicted today's strong sanctions. Everything including this appeasing policy is going on the plot written by NK far back in the past.
The Six-Party Talks in 2007 only helped NK's nuclear development, because no verification is considered. After the Talk, only the promise by NK was believed and the sanction was stopped.
Never repeat that mistake.
More severe sanctions and make NK more honest.
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I don’t think the North is going to give up nuclear weapons. But anything that keeps us from going to war and makes the use of such weapons less likely is welcome.
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The North is trying to extract money from the Seoul government. It always works, and the South has a history of being bullied. When Mr. Kim shot his rockets over Japan, his actions threatened our most important ally in the region. Mr. Abe will ensure that the talks between the North and South do not result unfavorably toward his country. When Mr. Kim's envoy stated that his nuclear weapons are aimed at the US, and not their Korean brothers in the South, Japan and the US have concerns about any agreements. The US needs to extract its presence on the Korean pennisula, and allow both Koreas to work out their differences to reunify both North and South. It is not worth the cost of keeping troops in Korea, especially if the North points its nuclear weapons at our cities.
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Fingers crossed again for the thousandth time. Am I wrong to hold onto hope that any good will come of this?
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They were doing this under Clinton, but when Bush got in, he scuttled it.
Republicans ruin everything, create chaos, and then exploit it.
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Do it! This is the first chance in years, and the first and last chance for this generation. PS: Thanks to the South Koreans for being reasonable and initiating reasonable dialogue with the NKs.
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Reading the story, dialogue has happened on and off for over 30 years. The results have ended with the North lying or breaking each agreement. Don't expect a difference. Keep in mind when the North shot its weapons over Japan last month, and aimed its nuclear weapons at Guam and Hawaii, its no longer just about the North and South making nice.
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It is not trustworthy whatever Mr Moon or Kim say as they may be liars