Teaching With: ‘Taking a Knee and Taking Down A Monument’

Jan 26, 2018 · 44 comments
Aidan Naran (Somewhere)
This video was the most controversial I have seen thus far. I had put a lot of thought into my response because I wanted to make sure I was on the side I felt was right. Right off the bat, I truly believe that some people don't know how other people feel from racism. People say this and that about it but they don't actually know what those people have been through. So therefore I am in support of the people that are taking a knee and that approve of taking down that confederate monument. Before y'all say that why take down a piece of history? Well I don't know,it's totally not like it has been done before, lot's of monuments representing history have been taken down since forever. So why bother with a silly confederate statue if it doesn't even represent something good? Also, I read a comment about comparing this statue to a MLK statue? What? They're not the same thing at all, MLK representing something good, the confederacy did not, simple. Also people saying that people are only taking a knee for attention, it is not true at all. They are bringing attention to the situation not themselves. Social injustice still exists out there and I don't understand why people seem to think it is wrong for protesting against it. Also,for the taking a knee thing, I support it fully. I don't care what people think that it's not patriotism and that they're disrespecting the soldiers that fought for us. Have they ever read an article on the issue saying that the protesters still respect them.
Jared Rogers (School.)
I think that most of the video is feelings and taking the internet at face value because most of the time the people on the internet are just trolling to get a reaction out of people and I'm not saying racism isn't a thing anymore but there are very few people how are racist nowadays. The thing about the states in my opinion destroying the states is wrong because it is a part of our country’s history and not all of the people in the states had slaves. Also about the “taking a knee” is something you shouldn’t do because this is your country and you can do it when you are 21 because that is when your brain is fully developed and not as easily influenced so you can think things through.
Matthew Horelick (Apopka)
After watching the video, I agreed with the people that the confederate statues should be taken down. I believe this because it brings racism into our country and communities. I do respectfully understand why people might want to keep the statues and not allowing people to knee in a football game, but they also need to understand that there is a greater conflict going on in our community. If people still believe that racism is gone and we don't have it anymore then why are african americans still being discriminated throughout the country with words and pure hatred. For the issue about kneeing I also believe that they have the right to do what they want to do. They should not be forced to do something that they simply do not want to do. We must be an inspiration to other people and countries throughout the world.
Milani Isales (Apopka)
I thought this video was very interesting in my opinion i find that this man is being treated unfairly because he did not do anything wrong. This man a pro football player is prohibited from playing football a sport that he loves and is good at just because he decided one day he wanted to kneel down instead if pledging for the national anthem. Donald Trump our president, put this man through so many over something that wasn’t even that big. I find that this could have something to do with race as far as why the president punished him the way that he did. I believe that the punishment wouldn’t have been nearly as bad if the man who kneeled was caucasian i feel his punishment would not have resulted in something as big as Kaepernick's did. I believe that this was something peaceful that this man did and he got in so much trouble for what ? When half of the time our own president does not even put his hand over his heart when the national anthem. I do not think the statue should be removed because it is sending a message. The statue should not be removed over something so minor, it just is not logical to take it down because this one man decided to kneel down. I do not think that this was a sign of disrespect nor do i think that he deserved the treatment he got over this minor issue.
Shania Sylvain (Apopka)
I respectfully understand the position of those who are angry with the acts of people kneeing during the national anthem and the disrespect it may portray . But those same people must also understand the position of people taking a knee during a football game. The act of kneeing is simply a harmless, peaceful protest for people to acknowledge a bigger issue that black Americans still face today. If people believe that racism doesn't exist then the example of the words and threats being thrown to the football team shows otherwise. This issue must be spoken on and if kneeing is what will start the conversation then so be it. There is racism all around the world but this is not an excuse for America. We should be the inspiration and the leaders for other countries.
Monserrat Resendiz (Apopka)
I personally have never played in a sport before; but one thing that I know is that if you don’t feel like standing up for the pledge of allegiance then don’t do it. I feel like you should be able to make your own decisions when it comes to things like that. The fact that trump still had the nerve to say something about it is just unacceptable in my point of view. If someone feels like that pledge of allegiance does not go with their own beliefs on what is going on, then they don’t have to do it.
Amir Moore (Apopka)
In my opinion I felt that this video was very inspiring. I also feel as though there were a lot of women like the mother on screen who was protesting. I also enjoyed the fact that we did not just talk about the statues and we talked about the mothers personal life and the struggles she faced every day like hearing that her son could not take a knee at the National Anthem because his coach said so and the emotional impact it had on her mother to hear that her son could not protest.It also showed the mother taking a stand and sharing her opinion on the matter.Which I found as a satisfactory conclusion to the film club.
Savannah Taylor (Apopka,FL)
What stood out to me is that the mother was so easily able to get he point across at the meeting. The judges on the panel already knew keeping the statue up was wrong, she didn't need to do a very much convincing. They want the statue taken down because its not what America represents anymore any. When the mother was having a conversation with the man that was on the opposing side of the argument she brought up some good points as to why he feels that the statue is something that needs to stay. Also, hearing her mention that our problems aren't a race issues they are humanity issues. I think that is something we all need to take into consideration as our nation matures and develops so we don't have any reaffiliations of past hardships.
Zackory Thompson (Florida)
Some moments that stood out to me in this film were when they were talking over breakfast and the mom started crying because of her finding out that her son heard about what racists were saying about them. Another thing that stood out to me was when the white and black man were arguing after the vote was passed to remove the confederate momnument over whether the monument was racist or not, their conflicting perspectives were interesting and it would have been one thousand times better if they had a civil disscussion instead of starting to yell at eachother and as a result, get kicked out, if you dissagree with someone, do not silence them, let them speak so you can hear the flaws in their argument and try to convince them of your view if you want to do so.
Yair Zamora (Apopka)
I have always been a firm believer that sometimes racism can be non-existent, but I also believe that at times racism can be present, and even be as bad as it was back in 19th century. During the video I feel that the statue was one of the cases where racism was not present. The statue didn't seem to be encouraging people to partake in heinous acts of racism nor was it used to signify that the town was racist. Although I might not agree with the mother's view point I still feel that her morals were in check and her reasonings made somewhat sense. Maybe if I were to be in her shoes i'd choose have it crumbled up as well, but I feel that this was still something of history. Even when she did win the fight over the statue I feel that destroying one statue wasn't going to change anything, but it might have been just a start for the mother to move onto bigger things to change in her community.
Sophia J (Orlando)
It’s odd how I’ve been saying the pledge since the first day of kindergarten and standing up for the national anthem since my first football game at age four, yet I never thought about what I am pledging allegiance to. What am I standing up for? The definition of allegiance is “loyalty or commitment of a subordinate to a superior or of an individual to a group or cause” If someone does not feel allegiance to the United States of America and they want to peacefully protest they have every right to do so. As for taking down monuments of the Confederate I can connect to that as this happened a couple of miles away from me. Robert E. Lee Middle School also known as Lee Middle School was changed to College Park Middle a year ago due to the surrounding area not agreeing that a school with a 60% black student population is named after a Confederate general. I believe that the removing of Confederate monuments and moving them into museums would be good for both sides. No one will be able to damage or vandalize the monument in a museum and it will be out of sight and out of the neighborhood for people who are offended by the monument.
Andres Nieves (Apopka)
One key moment that stood out to me was the racial, inequitable rights for the people struggling to take down a monument creating a tension among the citizens. When her son said he did not care and went on with his life, it gave me a sense that he knew he didn't have the power to stop all of this but he knew it had to be stopped. The white guy, who stated he does not want another civil war, may seem like the bad guy but he's just another person who doesn't want violence to occur to people who were never involved. he was attempting to be nice and just state his opinion towards the matter at hand.
Lance Delostrinos (Apopka)
I was surprised at the fact how Donald Trump at the start was dissing the black football players that were protesting racism. Then the white man after that was contesting the protests by dissing on them, verbally. I was mad at both of them since they are basically or close to white supremacists. When I heard the speaker around, 2:47, when he referred to the civil war and how it might come again if we don't stop this. This must be stopped!
Jacob Park (Florida)
The confederate statue represents our history, our mistakes that we have made, and if we take down history we wont learn from our mistakes. even though the confederate soldiers were for the wrong cause they were fighting for their beliefs like state rights and sovereignty . these men are also the best generals in the history of the united states. one message i take is that the media is brainwashing people to bring up their emotions. when they kneel during footballs means you are in protest to whats going around you. i think its ridiculous because by doing that you are not resolving anything your just going up there for attention. when you kneel during the anthem yo are disrespecting our countries history and the previous soldiers who have fought for this country. if people feel like there is racist in this country i am here to say that its everywhere in the world whenever there is different social classes. try going to Myanmar where you get raped for being an immigrant. go to the middle east where they are racist to each other and a war is going on. go to africa and get sold by tribes into slavery. people want to be in this country because racism is not one of there problems.
Destiny Matos (Orlando)
Many of the topic talked about are important to society today. One of the main points was racism and it was heavily covered. There is a woman of color who wanted to fight for her beliefs and she spoke up for her family and her son. I feel grateful that the video provided so much education of the topic of racism of today, which isn’t really talked about. I think that using sports to unite people is a good idea because sports are so prevalent in the United States of America, but it could end up causing problems in the future.
Sarah Roach (wekiva)
I had so many emotions going on at the same time because i’ve played sports like soccer that you have to take a knee for and i do think that if you don’t want to stand for the pledge of allegiance then you should be able to make that choice for yourself and you shouldn’t be in trouble for that i think its ridiculous for people to get in trouble for that. People should have there freedom to take a peaceful protest but taking a knee for someone that has fallen in a game is just nice and good sportsmanship.
Roggernsy Jacotin (Apopka)
With each side either white or black each individual has their own view on race and equality. Throughout history, African American have fought for equality, but the idea of not being able to express yourself stood out to me. Getting the threats wasn't a surprise to me, however, the statement about how the coach didn't allow them to take a knee was. Although it surprised me I comprehended why after the event past. My emotion went everywhere while watching this film as I understood what the family was feeling at each point. The bravery and fight to stand up are key points which I will take away from this film.
Joshua Phillips (Crusading The Holy Land)
My opinion on this video is that the mother is pushing her political agenda onto the son you can see it when they are eating breakfast after the game the mother is just constantly talking about how she is so sad he couldn’t protest the monuments while the son is just eating breakfast and talking about his game.As well the whole idea of taking down confederate monuments to me is absurd I understand the point of view that they are coming from but it's just a monument built to recognize a historical figure in their history.If an actual racist believed we should take down a statue of MLK because it finds it offensive is that alright no it's not so why is it any different from confederate monuments.
Samantha Medina (Apopka)
When one of the men that wanted to keep the statue up said that "it didn't offend anyone" I was shocked. Obviously, people had been offended and that is why the issue of whether or not the statue should be taken down had arisen. I think that statements like that dismiss racism and how people of color feel may feel. I think that is one of the biggest problems with racism today. Everyone has different opinions and you can't speak for everyone when you say certain things. The way that some people are offended by others taking a knee during the national anthem and some people aren't, is the same way that some people were offended by the statue when others were not. When the topic of the coach not letting the boys kneel came up I thought that was just a really complicated situation. The coach had received threats about letting the boys kneel and if he was trying to keep them safe I can kind of understand that. I don't agree with his decision though because it's the boys right to voice their opinions and to do what they feel is right. Racism, in general, is a complicated issue. It shouldn't be because everyone regardless of where they are from or the color of their skin should be treated equally. Yet it is still an issue that many people face every day. I think this video really showed how many people are feeling and I hope that this video gets people to try to listen and understand others even if their opinions are different.
Brighton Nilsson (apopka)
This video had presented an issue that, sadly, we still have to face today. People should listen to each side and respect the concerns of each other but I believe taking down monument will not erase what happened. I believe everyone is equal because inside we are all the same regardless of where we came from or what happened to our ancestors. We may have different cultures and ways of speaking but we shouldn't be divided by that. We all have freedom but there are limitations to that freedoms because we should say things that empower people not bring them down by calling them "names" that are just immature. I believe we should stand up for the pledge of allegiance because men and women in the military have died for the flag and our freedom as a whole, not for half of the citizens of America.
RJ Bush (Orlando, Florida)
My opinions on this video would all be questions. Why do people stereotype others because of their race? Why can't we all be fair and look at each other as God's children? Why can't we just come together with all the other races? Why is there a such thing as a minority and majority when we all are made up of the same elements and breathe the same air? WHy is race such a problem in, mainly, the United States. We have protested, asking for peace, and we still don't receive fair treatment. Most prejudice people are Confederates, but that doesn't mean the Confederate Flag is racist. But, I will agree that if prejudice Confederates continue to show unequalness it will lead to an even bigger national problem.
Ifrit (Miah)
I feel issues like these need not to raise as much attention as it should. The video presented definitely showed signs of its own biased opinion with no effective counterarguments other than heresy of racist remarks, and images of white cops, group of racists next to the Confederate flag, and an Instagram video as if those properly represent the opposing side of the argument. I feel that this issue should not be the top priority of anyone other than those living in that area as there are other issues at a grander scale that need to be addressed, not just football players in South Carolina, but racism in America as a whole. Bickering about some football players doing an activity that they are allowed to do by law is not a topic that the nation should be worried about.
William Hamaric (Ocoee)
I believe that people have the freedom of speech. I understand that kneeling down during the pledge of allegiance goes with that freedom of speech and signifies that there is something wrong in the country, but kneeling for the pledge of allegiance could also be seen as someone being against the country in general for the pledge is to show your nationalism and pride for the country and as respect to past veterans. There are other methods of nonviolent protest and I don't believe kneeling for the pledge of allegiance is an efficient one because I feel like it leads you astray from the country and what you are trying to fix in a sense. I don't believe the confederate statue should have been destroyed. It is a symbol of history and in that history it was a side supporting slavery. It's like yin and yang there has to be balance and a statue of a confederate soldier reminds you of how there will always be the negative side to something and this statue represents that. I feel like it should've just been moved to a museum for it is a part of history and something we should remember.
John Rassel (Apopka)
I feel like the video has a very powerful message. It goes to show how close-minded some people can be. It's as if the people who wanted to keep the statue up refused to acknowledge the racism it represents. They are so engulfed in their own world and ideas that they don't want to even hear what the others have to say or try to acknowledge what it represents. The video also goes to show how anyone can make a change if they truly want to. This lady decided to participate in her local meeting, voice her opinion, and it worked. It's an example of how change can come, it just takes effort by people who genuinely believe in something.
Mason Mallory (Apopka)
I am really surprised that people would just throw away history over the ideologies that were present at that time. People in this day and age stereotype and racially profile everyone, its a big epiphany in the past generations. I honestly think that my generation is the least judgemental of all due to the way that our generation isn't scared to affiliate themselves with people if they're African American, Asian, or White. I will definitely take from this video that there are different viewpoints on every situation even if one is politically incorrect they will still follow their ideology due to either ignorance or just plain out stupidity.
Taniya Coleman (Orlando)
The moments that stood out to me was when the family was eating breakfast and the mother started crying when she had found out that her son has heard what racists were saying about them. What surprised me was the reasons why some of the people wanted the Confederate flag up. A message i will take from the story is stand for what is right. Emotions i had from this video is anger because i felt like the flag didn't need to be up and the only people who wanted it up didn't have a reason behind it but to only get under our skin.
Arlette Vargas (Apopka)
What really stood out to me was that the football coach was making his voice get heard he was standing up for what he believed and I think people should do that people should stand up for what they believe.This video made me realize that i should stand up for what I believe and let my voice be heard.Racism is still going on a lot just because they wrote the document that everyone should be treated equally not everyone gets treated equally still and that these people are standing up for there race that's good .This video really stood out to me it made me realize people really stand up for who they are and still do what they have to do so that they can be treated equally.
Darian Lee (Orlando)
I believe that this is a very powerful and moving video and topic. I think that no matter what is going on with racism now, the pledge of allegiance represents all of America, and all of its history, not just what happened with slavery all that time ago. It is important to respect the foundations of this country because everyone is a part of it. Taking down a historical statue does not change anything about the present because it is simply a symbolical figure. If anything, it should be a reminder of how far America has come and how it has changed what was wrong because nobody today is supporting slavery. Even being personally related to a Confederate general (Robert E. Lee), I don't agree with what he did, but he, just like every historical figure, was a part of what made America what it is today, a country of freedom. Being related to a person who made such an impact, whether it was positive or negative, I don't think it is right to alter the mark that was left upon his legacy, and this goes for all of those famous people. I'm not agreeing to hate against African Americans, I think that they deserve to be listened to just like anyone else without any disrespect, unlike how Trump cursed them out. Everyone just needs to be able to understand each other's opinions and accept them because good points are made from both sides of this situation.
Oscar Garcia (Apopka)
Something that stood out to me was the coach stopping the football team from kneeling at the pledge. People's voices should be heard for any topic when they desire to. Personally I understand why someone would kneel and I support the idea to an extent but also I see the pledge as a way to respect veterans. I understand the racial corruption in the U.S is alive ever though and I saw it wrong for the coach to silence the freedom of speech. Another thing I thought was interesting was the statue being taken down. I get why someone would get offended but I personally see it as a reminder on what to avoid. I personally would've been fine leaving it there but am also completely fine having it moved somewhere not as visible such as a museum. I'm against destroying it though because of the reminder it gives.
Cody McLean (Apopka)
Some things that stood out for was people wearing and using the Confederate flag is just astounding to me because the Confederate when against and tried to rebel the country trying to break away from it. I do like the statues as they convey past mistakes and people of importance or did something important in history, but they should not be in front of a court house they should be in museum where it belongs. Instead of idolizing them in the public eye. Another thing which stood out for me was not letting the coach not letting them kneel for the pledge which is basically silencing their freedom of speech.
Adrian Garcia (Apopka)
The video discussed many important topics that are conversed about in today's society. The topic of racism was discussed heavily throughout the video, how this woman of color wanted to fight for what she believed was right and used her voice as an adult to speak for her family and her son. I honestly felt very thankful from video. Although I believe that the video was very educational in the fact that there is still heavy amounts of racism in the US today and taking down the statue was appropriate. I feel as if kneeling down in a football game is a little unnecessary. The idea of the sport is to unite everyone in a game and eventually just for enjoyment and kneeling in a game would in my opinion cause dispute and eventually be a problem. I do acknowledge that having your voice heard is important, but as the coach in the video said that there is a very tense atmosphere in the team racially and I feel like commiting that act would just encourage an argument.
Emily Borr (Apopka)
One thing that stood out to me in this video was the man with the Confederate flag hat. I can understand him wanting to voice his opinion, but I don’t think it should be done by visibly supporting something that once divided this country, and sometimes still does.I somewhat disagree with the woman who wanted the statue to be destroyed. I do agree with the removal of the statue, but it does not need to be “crumbled”. Destroying the statue does not change the past. What has happened will never go away, and I think it is important to remember the mistakes of history so that they never happen again. So, while the statue should not be displayed, destroying it does not really change anything. Another thing that I disagree with was the coach telling his team not to take a knee. I know why he did, but I still believe that the kids on the football team should be able to make their voices heard in any way possible, and no one should be allowed to tell them otherwise.
Samantha Pena (Apopka)
I remember when I first heard about an NFL player taking a knee during the national anthem I was shocked, not because of the action but because of the responses. Personally, I don't think it should have been blown up so much, I don't think that people should have gotten so angry, and I don't think that it should be honored to the religious extent that it is today, going as far as sending threats to high schoolers. Of course, I will honor the people who have died and fought for this country and for that they have my utmost respect, but I personally don't view going on autopilot and reciting on instinct something that has been unconsciously ingrained into us since kindergarten as something to show respect, it doesn't hold much value for me. I certainly don't view taking a knee during the national as a sign of disrespect, but more as a way of calling attention to a serious matter, which I find kind of sad. It's depressing that people have to go through such measures in order for people to hear them, that they have to trash their own neighborhoods, go on hunger strikes, and risk their public image.
Mia Perisa (Apopka)
One thing that stood out to me in the film was that there were people threatening the coaches. I don't think that it should occur because if a student would want to kneel during the national anthem it is their right. Some people may not agree with everyone, but ultimately it is that individuals thinking not others. In the video, it also showed a lot of racism. It was especially shown when the white man was yelling at the mother. They both have very different opinions, but the man will not listen to anything that she has to say. Above all, I am happy that the statue was removed because it was very hurtful to many because of what it represented.
Valenca Charles (Apopka)
One thing that stood out to me and upset me was when the white male in the video begins lashing out his anger upon Mrs. Bell after the voters agreed to take down the monument. It was upsetting because he does not understand what it means to a “colored” person and have to pass by something that was meant to stand for white power. He thinks he understands, he thinks he knows, but if he were to step into the life of an African American for a day he would see our struggles and the thing we have to face daily just because we are not white.
Michelle (San Diego )
I was surprised that the coach wasn’t letting them stand up for what they are feeling. “I felt like me and my son were being scilenced by his own coach.” This is wrong, the coach is violating the freedom of speech of the students.
Grecia Jimenez (San Diego)
One moment in the film that stood out to me was when a white man said "the statue does not offend anyone." The man does not understand how black people feel and are affected by the confederate monument. It might not offend him because he is white but other people are very affected by this, the monument brings racism and violence to their town. "The confederate monument is a symbol of hatred not history."
Kendra Contreras (San Diego)
I learned new things from watching this video. A moment that stood out to me was when the students weren't allowed to kneel down during the anthem at their football game. To me it seemed unfair that they were stopped from doing something they believe in. Plus can't it be considered a violation of the 1st amendment...?
Gianni (San Diego)
I was surprised to see that a teenager was not allowed to take a knee. His own coach silenced him. I found that very peculiar, that is what really stood out to me. It wasn't even a big game it was just a little homecoming thing. The coaches are blowing this way out of proportion, its just taking a knee, it's not anything disrespectful. Not saying the Pledge of Allegiance should not be turned into a bug deal. I thought it was nice that the mother of the school footballer was caring. She really likes her son, and she is very proud that he is standing up for his rights. I have one question though, why are some Black people criticized for taking a knee during the anthem, is it really that bad?
Jackie Andrade (California)
A moment that stood out for me was when the women said: "The war has never stopped...", that stood out to me because she is not wrong but her statement only states the obvious. Yet having the monuments remove is not a way to fight for equality.While yes history is full of hate and racism the monuments don't stand for that they stand as a reminder of the past and the great things people have done in history, as well as their mistakes. By removing those monuments I feel that we will forget what has happened in history and we will repeat their mistakes, after all, we must learn from our mistakes not forget them. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."-George Santayana
Delaney Peters (TX)
I learned from this video.
William Butler (Orlando)
After watching the video i’m kinda annoyed because its using discuss of the NFL controversies to push her agenda.The reason is because it opens up the video with a discussion about getting rid of a confederate statue in Louisiana and the woman just shaking her head to all the opposing arguments which one of the arguments which was a fairly good argument which was “That statue does not offend anyone it's a statue it's a monument its not something that has slavery written on it like people seem to think”.Another thing that bugged me was I think the mother was influencing the son and the mother was having a bit of an over reaction because she said she cried because her son couldn’t neel and I think people should stand for the nation anthem because not only to show respect for your nation but to honor the troops that fight for our freedom.That is why I this video annoyed me because it's this mother trying to push her ideas on her son and complaining about it when she doesn't get her way.
nicole (bergquist)
I learned alot from this video
James Day (Lyndhurst)
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