Angie Mar’s Menu: Red Meat and Respect

Jan 09, 2018 · 62 comments
Sam (NYC)
I understand why this piece was written (and beautifully so, I might add). Now more than ever, we are looking for stories of strong woman leaders in all industries, ones that stand apart from the men who seem to be failing us. I get it and Chef Mar is a provocative heroine - a woman of color making a name in a (white) male-dominated industry and doing so in the even more male-dominated world of meat. While I am not in the restaurant business, I know many who are and have heard her management style described as abusive and toxic. So when I read this piece, I did think it was a little over the top to crown Chef Mar as the saint she is portrayed to be. Indeed, Grub Street reported on this contradiction and the lawsuit against her as a follow up to this profile. (http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/01/beatrice-inn-backlash-angie-mar.html). Look, someone’s tough is another’s toxic but at the end of the day, people who worked for her walked away feeling terrible about it. That’s real and hopefully something that Chef Mar can reflect on as she grows as a leader. And to the food journalists and reporters out there, I urge you to highlight chefs who may not have the marketing budgets and social media savvy, but who are cooking great food while still creating positive working environments for men and women. They are out there - but I fear our obsession with a small group of “rock star” chefs isn’t helping us find them.
Madeleine (NYC)
“‘The thing that really struck me the first time I ate there was how, the whole time, the staff was talking about how much they loved her,’ said Kat Kinsman . . .” How does a line like this make its way into a chef profile without raising eyebrows and questions? Presumably all of us reading have been out to dinner. I can’t think of a single occasion in which restaurant staff professed love of the chef apropos of nothing, let alone “the whole time.” What’s going on here?
Ed Donovan (Ukiah, CA)
Given that this is a profile of the chef, I am surprised that the article doesn't include the fact that she's just been sued for not paying her employees properly. Frankly it seems more than relevant to this piece.
rooney (slc)
it was mentioned
Jonathan Saw (NYC)
The food really is great. Too bad the front of the house - especially the host - are so terrible I have never returned since dining there around Christmas a few years ago. The host was rude and condescending - to the point that when we asked him to turn down the music a bit he turned it UP, then said "That's just the way it is." If you're paying that much for the food a little respect from the host shouldn't be a stretch. Alas Beatrice Inn isn't the only place with this attitude. (Just a few blocks away for example, you get the same condescending attitude from Barbuto hostesses.)
Tuvw Xyz (Evanston, Illinois)
@ Jonathan Saw NYC An excellent observation. No need to patronize restaurants, where the owners act as if they were doing favor by admitting guests.
Matthew (New Jersey)
From the article: "“Angie Mar .... buying the restaurant from the Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter in 2016" So a "Christmas a few years ago" means you ate at a DIFFERENT restaurant owned by a different person. With a different menu. Same location, same name, but completely different.
Sam (NYC)
Well, she was the exec chef for several years prior to buying the restaurant so likely it was still her menu and still her show.
Doctor D (Truckee, Ca)
I just don't get messing up a fine quality piece of protein. Now if it's poor quality protein, dump what ever on it.
Resisting Normalcy (Chicago)
I worked as a chef for over twenty years; in fine dining, as a college instructor and finally doing new product development in manufacturing before moving on to greener pastures (related pun intended). I agree with the comments that point out the issues with red meat, from its health effects to the burden on our environment. I would suggest running a counterpoint article that discusses the US meat industry. Although there has been much coverage in the past, it wouldn't hurt to offer a non-biased look into what's going on with meat processing in the United States.
MP (Pennsylvania)
Thank you for this great profile - it is an antidote to all the bad behavior from chefs and others that has dominated the news of late. You can be nice and excellent too - who knew!?! Chefs you'd like to have dinner with: Angie Mar, and Jacques Pepin top my list, I hope there are more out there. I love Angie's attitude about mentoring. No matter the profession, we magnify our effect and influence through those we mentor.
T. Goodridge (Maine)
In response to Dresser's defensive statement, not only is meat production (big ag) the #1 cause of pollution - worse than all the cars, planes, trains combined, but it is also barbaric. Informed people who understand this 'inconvenience', know that a change needs to come. She's not saying to stop eating meat, just that the source should be from farms where the animals haven't been tortured their entire short lives.
PeterC (BearTerritory)
Nonsense. Agriculture in the US accounts for 9% of greenhouse gasses and it that 1/3 is livestock production, so 3% https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
Lee Mac (NYC)
Yum. Have to eat there!
suez (NYC)
“No, Chef.”
Justin (Omaha)
When côte de boeuf is served in such large portions, who can eat the whole thing? Presumably, one could not eat anything else for dinner. I am not a vegetarian, but there seems to be little refinement in this sort of gluttony. This is hardly better than a burger with two donuts as a bun. Just because it borrows from the French, we are supposed to fall in love?
Seth Gordon (New York, NY)
No one can eat an entire Peking Duck by themselves, either. Or a six-foot party sub. No one should drink an entire magnum of wine in one sitting, yet restaurants sell those.
Phillip Vasels (New York)
$900 for a rib-eye? Well, I'm certainly not living a life I think I should be accustomed to.
James C (Brooklyn NY)
Truffle butter and snails with a dry-aged porterhouse? Gilding the lily.
Peggy (Upstate)
I'm trying to understand how a rack of beef that's been marinating in whiskey has powdery mold on it. Doesn't the whiskey kill off the mold?
Sharon (Miami Beach)
Seems like the "respect" doesn't extend to non-white patrons. Yelp reviews reflect lots of negative experiences from people of color.
John (Atlanta)
that's not good. a little odd though, considering that the chef/owner is non-white as are many of the staff.
Kerryman (CT )
Lambs and bunny rabbits? Cruelty is not necessary.
Yann (CT)
Of the 3 featured Food articles, 2 are about beef, one is about poke--made from the overfished tuna populations. We should all be eating more healthful, more delicious plant-based foods like those that shine under the hand of the likes of Yotam Ottolenghi, Ramael Scully, Daphne Cheng to name a few. I wish the Times would get with the times and start publishing chefs who are realistic about the resources required to produce a single cow and show real finesse about cuisine rather than just another way of serving up one or other animal. No slight to Chef Mar, but please, NYT, perhaps you could balance the articles in a way that reflects what the balance should be on one's plate most of the time.
Tuvw Xyz (Evanston, Illinois)
@ Yann CT I sense a whiff of veganism in your comment. Nature made humans panphagous or omnivorous. Despite my admiration of the strictly vegetarian Manicheans and Cathars -- I admire their belief in life as struggle of Good and Evil -- I view any proselytizing of unnatural diets as a hopeless attempt to modify human physiology.
Yann (CT)
Since when is a balanced diet unnatural?
Yann (CT)
Your "sense" would be incorrect. Since when is advocating for a balanced diet a Marvel comics plot about good guys and bad guys? Read carefully. We should be eating MORE plants. We should have BALANCE on our plates and in the articles in the Times should reflect that balance, I say. Let's not read too much into things.
Brian (New York)
I love what Chef Mar has been doing for the most part, but I really wish she'd get over her obsession with the truffle butter, truffle oil, etc. It's so early-aughts suburban basic. She's smart enough to know none of them are "real" - that every last one of them contains chemical fakery. What a shame. The worst is faux-truffled dishes on which she wastes real truffles by shaving them on top, when they're masked by the awful stink chemical. Use real truffles when they're in season, then hold off until the next year. I understand that to many basic diners the taste of truffle oil/butter/salt is what they associate "truffle" with, and the flavor and arome of actual truffles may come off "light" in comparison. And I can see that the the "truffle fries" are big sellers. So, fine, keep those on the menu. But why ruin an amazing luxury item like a dry-aged steak with nasty 2,4-dithiapentane?
tony maniaci (California)
Nothing of interest in this restaurant. It is not cooking it is now the personality of the chef.
Jeanne Rawluk Ketterer (NC)
I rarely get back to NYC, but I will plan on dining at the Beatrice. I am not surprised at Ms. Mar's success - she was a fierce and innovative competitor on the Food Channel's Chopped Grill Masters.
Ricardo de la O (Montevideo)
I lived across the street in the 1970's when it was a family Italian place and I loved it. As a newcomer to the city, I relished the sights and sounds of New York and relished its vast choices of foods and flavors. Coming from a country that celebrates steak and sausages and grilling I was in heaven. The sabayòn at Beatrice Inn was a combination of flavors I hadn't experienced. I was disappointed when it became a "dining club" for self absorbed Wall Street types. It has now returned to a place that evokes cooking as an act of love. As for all these PETA types: Go away. Don't eat at this restaurant. I can't wait to go there next time I'm in NYC. Thanks for this article.
LT (NY)
Very nice write up about an engaging chef. I enjoyed going to the Beatrice Inn in his club days (run by Paul Sevigny) and have difficulties imagining it as an upscale restaurant but this article inspires me to give it a try - if I can find a tasty non meat option on the menu: Ms. Mar's attention to the seafood plateau is a good sign! In my meat eating days I enjoyed Les Halles on Park Avenue South - it was before "butcher" was a hip trend in NY (or hipster trend) with places such as Marlow & Sons where Ms. Mar trained. I love how she describes cherries: “And the ones from Yakima, when you bite into them, they’re almost steaklike. The skins are snappy, like sausage casing.” I never thought of such a steak/fruit parallel but it is very evocative. Please more writings like this in the food section that portray the personality of the chef and give insight into their approach to food.
Daniel Tracht (Chicago)
Took me a second to do the math but $14 per ounce by 32 ounces for a nice steak for two clocks in at about $550 including tax and tip. Good to know that I can't afford it before I really get to invested in going.
KSinNYC (NY)
I find it surprising that this article doesn't mention prices. When I lived across the street, I ate there quite a bit for the moderate priced Italian. Now, a survey of articles about the restaurant all mention prices: Shellfish platter: $485, Rib-eye with truffles: $900, Lobster: $120, Truffle burger: $105. I find it irresponsible of The Times not to be straight forward about the price tag.
Third.coast (Earth)
It’s a profile of the chef, not a review of the restaurant. And since you figured out how to operate the google machine and found the price information you were seeking, it seems you’re only remaining complaint is that it is no longer 1985, or whatever year you lived nearby. You’re going to have to get over that on your own.
Suzanne Fass (Upper Upper Manhattan)
KSinNYC: Not mentioning the prices is not a bit surprising. This is an article about the chef and her style of cooking and managing, not a full-on restaurant review. It doesn't have to touch on every aspect of the place. Anyway, many commenters have done the math--albeit some incorrectly--so that should supply some of the information you seek. And these days, it's easy enough to check online. I just did, and find that there are quite a few dishes that are not outrageously priced by high-end restaurant standards. Esp. when you consider that some of those are meant to be shared by two or more diners. Perspective, and knowing how to divide and multiply, help in understanding.
Seth Gordon (New York, NY)
"Though critics have questioned some of the high prices at the Beatrice Inn, Ms. Mar serves dishes in a wide range of prices," Sure there's a bunch of insanely priced dishes on the menu. There are also a whole lot of typical upper-mid-range dishes, too: Milk Braised Pork, $34 Braised Oxtail, $32 Chamvallon de Tete, $34 Smoked Pork Chop, $72 (but serves 2-3 people, easily) Duck Flambe, $120 (but serves 3-4) Maybe the other articles you read were the ones that weren't so straightforward, if they neglected to mention that there was a wide range of options, for those wanting a simple nice night out to those wanting a crazy splurge. There are, I'm sure, a number of things I wouldn't think are worth the price, but much of that is personal taste - for example, there's the $485 shellfish platter. While I've never ordered it myself, I've seen it on other tables and it appears it would feed four people, plus I spied what appeared to be a tin of caviar on top that by itself probably accounted for half the price. High-end caviar is bananas expensive, you could balk at the price of it at any restaurant. Heck, you could balk at the price of it in a retail shop, without the restaurant markup. Black Perigord and White Alba truffles are expensive. Supply n' demand.
Arthur Best (Denver, CO)
"with some steaks weighing in around 350 ounces..." Really? More than 20 pounds?
Licia Gomes (Boston, MA)
"35 0z"
NicoSuave (Amherst, MA)
I am now a vegetarian, and I don't usually relish images of sides of beef -- but the cuts of steak and Ms. Mar's stories of her father's cooking, reminded me viscerally (and positively) of so many of my meals growing up in Texas. After witnessing so many toxic workplaces, it is a pleasure to read about Ms. Mar's approach to her employees and kitchen culture. (Sadly, but one example in the sea of toxicity, inequality, and lack of trust that pervades nearly every industry I've worked in or with.) But actually I'm writing because...surely there are no 350 oz steaks! Typo? And -- while we readers can do the math, I think it's disingenuous not to come right out with the price you're talking about here. Allow her to try to defend it, ok, but make it immediately clear, since you're bringing it up.
MAX L SPENCER (WILLIMANTIC, CT)
One can force imagining a 21.875-pound, 350 oz., steak, but one who has dined on steaks from Manhattan to Kansas City has never seen such large steak served for $4,900, at her $14/oz. price. I would have asked Ms. Mar how often she sells humongous steaks. I would ask the interviewer if he found out and at whose request he decided not to spill the beans. A reader is curious how often diners develop vast hunger, or might they be wheeling home custom-sized doggy-bags, or both. There is no chance of losing sight of who they are.
Seth Gordon (New York, NY)
It wasn't a 350 oz steak, it was a 350 oz primal from which she would then cut 10 X 35 oz steaks. I suppose you could go in and order all ten of them if you wanted, but that would seem like overkill.
Matthew (New Jersey)
It was a typo. They fixed it.
Michelle (Santa Rosa)
Wow, what an inspiration and a class act Ms. Mar is! I believe the old saying goes, you get more bees with honey than with vinegar and her attitude is living proof. Passionate and professional, she would certainly make Ms. Child proud!
ingrid (nyc)
Meat & Mar. Love it.
Elias Guerrero (New York)
Nice write up.
SLCmama (Los Angeles)
I would never have thought that a story featuring moldy meat could be so thrilling and filled with human interest. How inspiring to young chefs. Well done (yes, intended)!
Lori (San Francisco)
And yet her menu is full of non-compassionate choices that not only defy current science on diet and environmental damage, but cause sentient beings to be bred and slaughtered at young ages and in violent manners. When are people going to include traditionally farmed animals in their circle of compassion and rights?
Dresser (Chicago)
Really? Don’t read and comment on restaurants like this then. Go have some tofu and leave us alone
Christopher Rillo (San Francisco)
Should only traditionally farmed animals be slaughtered?
Joe (Sausalito,CA)
Sentient ? ? Please. . this is an omnivore site not PETA'S
Adam Craniotes (Manhattan)
One day... One day I will eat here. And it will be magnificent.
DK (CA)
In this country, where inconsideration, rudeness, and even outright hostility seems to be sadly commonplace, it is truly refreshing to read about a workplace were civility is the norm. I wonder how much of this is due to the fact that the chef is a woman.
Cone, S (Bowie, MD)
Perhaps the woman chef is the reason or perhaps they acknowledge the benefits if politeness and friendliness. Whatever the case, it sounds like a terrific restaurant.
PK (NYC)
Then you are going to love the refreshing article The Post dropped that apparently this is not the case and in fact - there is a lawsuit filed against her the same day by staff. I suppose the rush for the times to find a hero they forgot about what's really going on.
Michelle Smith (Missoula MT)
As an alternative to a $4,900 steak, may I suggest buying an entire cow and soaking a few cuts in whiskey for about half the price of this one meal? Though the menu may consist of delicious sounding dishes ranging widely in price, the fact that someone could not only afford but actually choose to spend that kind of money on a single meal speaks volumes about our country.
Louis Jouvet (Hereandthere)
I like how you think but 35 ounces x $14/oz =$490
myself (Washington)
Fourteen dollars an ounce x thirty five ounces is $490, not $4900. Still absurd, but not the price of a whole beef. I would assume it takes more than one person to eat that piece of meat.
Sharon (Miami Beach)
There was a typo in the article originally that stated the size of the steak was 350 oz
Jack (Florida)
Wonderful. A joy to read; serious people, at the top of their craft, and passing it on.
Jay Why (NYC)
She sounds like an amazing chef and a wonderful boss. However I have read reviews that have kept me from this place containing accounts of relentless up selling by the service staff. That's not the kind of hospitality I seek for a dinner out. I guess Chef Mar's considerable artistry is only accessible to the one percent,an unfortunate trend we can hope to see less of in 2018. But in the current political and social climate, that's not likely.
Nyalman (NYC)
While I think the food at Beatrice Inn is very solid the fact that the wait staff are not transparent unless asked on the per ounce and total costs of ordering the 160 day-aged tomahawk rib-eye special leaves many customers with sticker shop and and a bad experience. I fortunately have read the food blogs that highlighted this "pricing trap" and ordered other reasonably priced menu items.