Shocking that out of 56 photos every single woman is shown head-to-toe, full body photo EXCEPT Chrissy Metz. It is astonishing that so many people are commenting here on whether or not wearing black is a fashion statement or protest but they aren't picking up on the glaring omission of a body that does not conform to traditional beauty standards. Apparently even NYT coverage of the event has a long way to go.
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Pentagon papers wasn't all that in terms of exposes. We were lied to -- so what else is new? Compared with Nick Turse's expose called "Kill Anything That Moves" the pentagon papers were a clerical error. You want to find something to get all indignant about how much more immoral can you get than atrocities? Turse's work uncovered the soiled underwear of American foreign policy where other issues merely take a whiff from a distance. The whole entry into Nam was tyranny, but who can use that word? Funny how the opposite perspective is fed to us on that cluster .
Blanco had a spectacular red dress on. At least she got the memo that America wants glitz and glam. Stunning. The rest, I guess, were in black in mourning for their industry which has turned away real Americans.
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Although I know it's not a PC thing to say, I believe there is also a war on men in this country. The constant portrayal of women as powerless victims is at best disingenuous. Today, feminism is mostly run by white, prosperous, educated, middle-age women who want to conquer the world. They want to remove as many men from positions of power as possible.
I am a 46 year-old, heterosexual white male, and I've felt like the boogeyman for the past 15 years. This world is no longer run by white men! If it was, then why were there so many angry white men who voted for Trump? It's because we've been told that we're the bad guys - over and over and over and over again.
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Most Hollywood folks are nice, intelligent, and hard-working people. I deeply appreciate their dedication to helping people with HIV/AIDS, which, sadly, is still very much with us, and NO CURE is yet in sight. I wish MORE people would speak their minds about social, political and economic injustice, and demand action from politicians and government officials to correct injustice and solve problems. I applaud the women who have come forward with accusations against rich, powerful men who abuse them. Symbolism like wearing black dresses is OK, but let's get to the "meat" of the problem: the racist, sexist, and economic "elitism" of the ruling class of the USA and most other nations. This includes some of the privileged, well-educated, wealthy women in Hollywood and corporate America, and those who inherited vast fortunes from their tycoon husbands. I worked for three years with the HIV/STD Control Branch of the NC Dept. of Health, and heard many horror stories directly from (or about) women who were sexually and/or violently abused as very young girls, severely beaten by their boyfriends and pimps, raped, died of drug overdoses, and murdered by "johns" and boyfriends. Because almost all my clients were low-income "women of color" the news media had no interest in their stories, and often the police and politicians didn't, either. I hope you will encourage the news media, and those in government, to take more interest in helping women in MY neighborhood.
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With all the "buzz" about the Globes, and the number of articles written about last night's ceremony. I thought i'd missed one of the "must see" tv events of the year. But alas, ratings were down five percent when compared to last year.
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Well at least no one look "Fat" as they say about wearing black LOL LOL
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Deliberately didn't watch the awards.. Enough is enough of the beautiful and rich celebrity bashes. #metoo may be their cause now that it's trendy but us average folk need to move on to more important issues.
Al Franken!
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Funny how no one tweeted out photos of Oprah hugging Harvey. But that would have been on the MeTooHypocrite tag.
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Ugh. Sanctimonious Hollywood... that only until recently featured practically nude celebrities strolling the red carpet.
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Loved the show & loved the message. However, I was taken aback by some of the skimpy dressers. If you were going for sexy, then you nailed it. But I'm not sure "sexy" is the best message for an evening centered around discussions of sexual misconduct & rape. Beautiful, classy, attractive... that would've been the look I'd have gone for. I don't see the men pushing "sexy". In fact, I was a bit embarrassed for some, say C Zeta Jones. Did she not realize her father-in-law would be at crotch level when she decided to wear a negligee on-stage?
When men in Hollywood (or anywhere) continue to see us as "sex objects", is "sexy" really the message women should be putting out? I'm not judging (although I'm sure I'll hear from the haters), I'm simply asking the women to think about their message & how they want to be heard. If "sexy" is your primary answer, I beg you to reconsider. And is that the message you want your children to receive as well?
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Agree, some of the clothing choices were in contradiction to what was said!
Come on...walk the walk, talk the talk
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Lot of comments here about a "morally corrupt Hollywood" and its "self-righteous indignation".
But, uhmm, who's out there buying what Hollywood is selling?
Right, it's only the MOVIES which wallow in sex and violence (and, yes, sexual violence), not the larger culture as that would suggest that, maybe, 'me and mine' not just 'them and theirs' are also to blame.
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Fool's gold.
The Black Dress was less about Hollywood victims avenging the Hollywood Weinsteins than craven arrivistes obscuring their Faustian bargain. The illusion of virtue, practiced so fastidiously by the theatre wing of the American Left, is key to understanding the funereal costume that cloaked the self-righteous coconspirators last night.
Meryl's Hollywood agitprop, with its false premises, phony pieties & outright lies—self-serving fantasy wrapped in sober documentary—is a verisimilitudinous contrivance that is pernicious, especially now, especially there, especially if we understand Tinseltown's real motivation.
Truth and courage as Streepian illusion: They speak words of victims they never were, words they failed to say when it really counted and when it would have actually cost them. Ex post facto courage is a preferred tactic of the abject coward.
Weinstein was the Hollywood elite's Riefenstahl moment. The Golden Globes was an opportunity for them to come clean. Instead, they cloaked their cowardice and complicity in The Black Dress.
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Someone read their word of the day today.
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Why not Oprah for president? The commenters here who decry a "celebrity" president should pay attention to what Trump has accomplished -- nearly all of which, I hasten to add, I oppose. Roll-back of civil rights and environmental protections, reshaping the judiciary, withdrawal from trade agreements (and leaving a huge vacuum for China to exploit), tax benefits for the wealthy: it is quite a list of accomplishments for an amateur in just one year. Trump is a liar and a buffoon, but the greatest damage he is causing is not his buffoonery, but the actual policies that he has been able to implement. I want a progressive in the White House after the 2020 election, and if Oprah has the will and the means to win, more power to her. If she can undo even half the damage that Trump has done, hallelujah!
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Wake me when it's over. This will last until another Kardashian posts a picture, some shoe designer comes up with a new and even more bizarre way to ruin your feet, and we find out how well Oprah treats the women in her organization.
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The #metoo movement is following the same track as BLM movement. It starts as a noble righteous cause for justice, and turns into a slobbering hate fest of a perceived enemy. When a man doesn't match up with the role of their constructed enemy, they simply create a new one for him. I'm drifting center and most people I know on the left are as well. Let me ask women, gay people, black people, if someone said we need to hire fewer of any of these groups, would you happily say yes!, or would you think, oh, gee, just because of skin color and gender we are going to purposely exclude a person as a payback for things that happened in another era, things that aren't solely a result of discrimination, but social norms and behavior that changes with time. I've seen the answer from most people of minority group whom I as a white man have always voted for their social justice. I'm rethinking that stance. I'm hated even though I've been decent my entire life. I guess no one loves their sons too, by the way. No one should wonder how we went from Obama to Trump. I now see how that happened. The left is anti-freedom. It is hysterical and wants to destroy anyone who doesn't agree with them. I'm no longer a part of the left. I've learned a great deal from their behavior over the past year. Never has there been a more hateful, indecent, hypocritical, divisive group. I'll take the religious right over the left. A sad goodbye.
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All the men here (to judge by usernames; and a few women too, predictably and dispiritingly) judging the clothes that were worn last night as too skimpy, low cut, etc.: you are showing your true colors, as that is exactly the sort of thinking harassers, abusers, and rapists and their enablers always engage in. People are allowed to choose their own clothing. You have no right to tell others how to dress. And people's clothing--no matter what it looks like to you--is not an invitation. Only an invitation is an invitation.
I am so glad your days are numbered.
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Let's face it, wearing designer duds of upwards of $10,000.00 and dressing alike doesn't a movement make. The buttons too were a bit over the top. They cheer themselves on for being unified and tomorrow things get back to normal. For Meryl Streep to deny knowledge of Weinstein's behavior is ludicrous then pat themselves on the back for doing a good deed is utter nonsense.
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Nobody is being told how to dress, so cut the hyperbole. But there was a time when actresses did not compete in a flesh contest to attract the attention of the photographers. And if exposing a ton of flesh (something actors could never seriously do) is not about sexual attraction, then what is it about, and why could men not get away with it? Be serious, because these people are professional exhibitionists who know the meaning of a costume and who would accept big bonuses for appearing topless in the drop of a bra!
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There is no question that the men who have engaged in harassment, molestation, assault, and worse...are wholly responsible for their actions. Most of the men called out in Hollywood - and in the broader society - are intelligent, well-educated men...who frankly knew better, but did not seek help for their problem.
And that's a critical aspect of this issue...why don't we recognize - or believe - when we have a significant problem? And why do we enable those who do? Our President is certainly an example of both.
And the deeper question...why didn't women band together and bring this issue to the forefront before now? We too, are responsible for our "allowing." And why has the women's movement not made more progress?
We only need look at the LGBTQ movement to see that significant progress can be made in a relatively short period of time...what are we not seeing?
I too, have been molested and harassed, so I speak from personal experience. (My experience was featured on the editorial page in this paper on November 5, 2017.) And while I see MeToo and Time'sUp as valuable steps forward, historically, women reflexively reacting in anger...has always been turned against us and slowed - or stopped - our movement forward.
We must be careful not to allow the perception of our empowerment to be branded as a "witch hunt," which would be so easy to do in the present environment. And we cannot work alone.
We must come together with men, in partnership, to make lasting change.
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It is not the beautiful women of Hollywood that are to blame, but people's perception of them as the ideal in all facets of life. We can teach our young girls and boys that there are physically beautiful men and women, that is a reality, but that they do not hold the key to a happy life. Do we teach the importance of being passionate about something in life, whether it is being a businessman/woman, a teacher, a mother, a father, a doctor, etc.? Do we teach them kindness and humor are more important than looks? Let's not blame these women for following their passion to act because they are beautiful.
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They all knew what was going on in Hollywood long before #MeToo and did nothing. Now they wear black dresses, talk a lot, and ignore the horrific treatment of women in Iran while our brave president takes a stand.
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Note to Catherine Zeta Jones: black or otherwise, your dress was barely more than a negligee. Nice try.
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I thought the exact same thing. Hideous.
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The Democrats Politicize every thing!!
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Wearing black last night did about as much good as putting lipstick on a pig as far as restoring any dignity and changing anything for women. The picture on the front page of this morning LA Times summarized it best. Four radiant young women actresses all dolled up and dressed in black huddled together caressing their bulbous phallic looking Golden Globe statues puckered up and blowing adoring kisses at them. It reminded me of how they must have looked like as being ordered to go down on Harvey Weinstein. The photographer that posed them in such a demeaning fashion should be ashamed of himself. If it were as she, even more so, it made them all look like hungry hookers.
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Oprah Winfrey for President of the United States.
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Agree, in the next Harpo movie production. Thats the only time she'll ever have that role.
Cecil DeMille did some things worse than you identify. He was one of the most vociferous, if not the most, supporters of the Hollywood blacklist in the 1940s and 1950s and tried to ban anyone who had ever expressed a liberal thought in their lives even if that thought was to oppose Hitler. For the entertainment industry to give out an award in his name would be like the Senate awarding the annual Joe McCarthy award for lifetime achievement.
How come when it comes to people like Kevin Spacey, we're not supposed to separate their work from their private lives but when it comes to DeMille, that's fine. It's hard to take seriously people who don't even see the irony in this.
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First off, I applaud the fact that women are standing up for themselves and refusing to submit to womanizing leetches and other sexual misfits that seem to inhabit Hollywood in general. That being said I am sick of Hollywood supposedly taking the high ground and leading America in general on social issues. This last year has proven that so called "Elite" have a long way to go to get in line with the morality that the so called "ordinary" take for granted.
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Why are they wearing black again? Is it a way to contrast against how they usually flaunt bright, revealing clothes that display their man-pleasing breast implants and lip implants? And because striking an extremely provocative pose in black isn't so enticing? What's the point again? Hollywood actresses make sure they look like an embodiment of male fantasies. They embody in their flesh and poses and simpers the damaging male projection of femininity which has injured so many other women who believed that image of womanhood is the one to aspire to. Are they now going to model a new kind of femininity that doesn't revolve around male fantasies? Something sexy and accepting of individuality, of individual bodies, and something not completely created by the male libido? If not, then sorry, dears, but you are the problem. You are complicit. . .
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Oprah has been around the entertainment business for awhile. She knew what’s been going on for a very long time. Unlike other woman in the business she didn’t need any men to advance her career. She had a chance to step up about harassment for decades. Her standing up there in black is just a travesty. There is nothing about Hollywood that we should respect. They aren’t the soul of this country.
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Let me see. According to the Liberals, it was bad to have a billionaire, coddled entertainer with not much of a connection to the commoner as President. But now it is okay?
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"it was bad to have a billionaire, coddled entertainer with not much of a connection to the commoner as President. "
That is not my problem with Trump. It is bad to have an ignorant, bigoted, mean-spirited president, who is mostly out to enrich himself and his family, and is opposed to freedom of the press and an independent judiciary.
Was bad? Chuck, have you been paying attention? It has been an unmitigated disaster this country may never recover from.
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Really? My 401k is exploding, jobless rate is at a 17 year load, and we have a Supreme Court trending in the right direction. Give me more of this "disaster," please!
The Hollywood elite are even more divorced from reality than Ivory Tower pontificators. They live in massive mansions behind high gates in the most expensive neighborhoods in the country. Servants make sure they don't get their hands dirty or mix with the unwashed masses. They do not speak for me and are unqualified to advise mere mortals how to live.
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And us "mere mortals" have a lock on how to live?
Being unwashed doesn't afford any greater insight than does being rich and famous.
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No we don't but for anyone in Hollywood to preach to us when they live in a fantasy world complete with bodyguards and iron gates and waited on hand and foot and don't have to pay for their clothes or jewelry ought aught to realize that they can in no way relate to a real working person who may have to juggle 3 jobs to feed the kids and pay rent. It's laughable at best.
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Quick read thru and I come to the picture of Kendall Jenner posing (yawn), and it sucks the air right out the whole thing. Talentless, nothing but a posing doll, and a HUGE reason its hard to take "Hollywood" too seriously in their, "We're Fixing Ourselves" self-congratulations. Part of the fix, IMO, involves a little less gratuitous sexuality from too young, barely adult females. Whose whole reason for being anyplace IS to put her sexuality on display. Just a thought...
I'm happy that Weinstein, et al, got busted and banished. Never knew the man, but I know women who met guys like him in their quests to get into the lowest levels of the Biz. And I'm pretty sure those creep-guys are still out there doing their thing. Which is the bigger problem. A Kendall Jenner, without her already grandfathered-in family celebrity, would still be facing the behaviors of Weinstein-like males. Be they local theater male directors, male photographers selling portfolios, creepy-male actors...etc.
Its hard to believe that Hollywood can fix much of anything outside their own insular clans. They can dress a lot of us, promote credit cards (anyone ever got a CC because of Jen Garners recommendation?) tease money out of us for some charity, and shill the latest and greatest fad-diet.
But truly get the culture to change its sexist ways...? I'm a little skeptical. No, very skeptical. Black dresses are nice looking, but still no more effective then a bumper sticker. T-shirts look cool, but...
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The show struck the right note. Not so much this article starting with, "For some people watch at home . . ." Yeah, maybe, but this isn't reporting. It is editorializing. Just report the facts. We don't need your interpretation - or blaming DeMille for an abusive culture. Seriously? Over the top.
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For some people at home the Golden Globes struck a hypocritical note. So did I - hypocrites v/s hypocrites! But I sincerely hope I am dead wrong. And the Golden Globe of 2019 would reflect the sea change in the lives of every woman and of how women are viewed - as human beings equal in every way. Wearing black perhaps is the beginning. But actions speak greater than speeches. I sincerely hope this women's revolution does not fizzle out after the Globe Party. Trump was the pinata last year. Hope Weinstein and other sickos do not just stay pinatas!
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I don't get it. To show support against sexual harassment some actresses wore black dresses -- skimpy, skin tight, see-through dresses with spaghetti straps, plunging necklines, and slits up to the hips. I don't find those kind of dresses beautiful, and certainly not elegant. Does anyone else see the irony?
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It's not in the least ironic, unless you think women have to cover themselves up to not deserve harassment.
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I agree, women don't and shouldn't have to cover themselves (we're not in Saudi Arabia!), but revealing so much does contribute to the sexual objectification of women, which is a cause of harassment. Oprah had a beautiful dress, for example.
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Oh dear, this again.
People suffer injustice and abuse, get/achieve/seize a moment to confront history, and lose their campaign from the start.
They believe they're unique, their lives painful and unfair, and now they're gonna fix it. C'mon, America! It's gonna be great!
Maybe. Maybe it will be better for these beautiful, cosseted, cherished little dolls of Hollywood (no more little dolls, mind you, than their male counterparts).
There's no denying the heinous history, nor the desperate necessity for correction. No doubt of the comeuppance due their tormentors and the system that fosters them.
Neither is there doubt when a beloved, married mother in Topeka, respected and happy in her relationships suffers when her kids can't go to school or, in Topeka, when there's no decent school for them to go to.
Or when an addict can't find treatment.
Or when the mentally ill cast out half-century ago by politicians unfamiliar with compassion find no escape from below-zero temperatures, or contempt from those passing.
The Dressed-in-Black deserve all the support they get, and all the justice.
As do many others.
Until they see the same hunger in every "interest group" and act together against an oppressive regime this will remain a sporadic release and return to the ugly norm.
It shouldn't be 'FemiNazis v. Coal Miners', it should be people v. the corrupt and venal among the rich and powerful. It should be people imposing justice upon the special interests in charge today.
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Working women--ones who don't make millions of dollars a year, nor have a coterie of (oftentimes immigrant) service staff at their disposal--have been calling out sexual harassment, sexual assault, and sexism for more than fifty years. They have been strident; they have been strategic. They have, in many cases, paid a high price for this. Sadly, one of their biggest adversaries was the normalization of gender-based sexism that Hollywood peddled for decades--and continues to peddle.
Weinstein was an open secret in Hollywood for many, many years, and for seasoned actors to deny knowledge is to be complicit (sorry Meryl...). I know I'm not the first person to point out the rank hypocrisy of seeing so many actors, both men and women, who held their noses to work with Weinstein now suddenly find their voice.
I hate to sound cynical, but this type of red-carpet activism -- "ribbon activism" -- has little to no cost for most participants and frankly reeks of shameless self-absolution. Today it's sexual harassment. Tomorrow it's another issue du jour.
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This was Oprah's first campaign speech. The Queen of Materialism wants to be president.
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"The elephant not in the room . . ." Hah, hah! Classic Hollywood. Same old cruelty redirected.
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Please please take the time to review the first ten years of Winfreys broadcast career and you will find that at least 80% of her broadcasts revolved around how evil men were and how much women hated them. Funny that she made her millions off of misandry, I guess the truth is just too hard to handle.
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It was like watching a 3 hour lecture presented by the womens liberation movement. We get it, we definitely get it. I watched to see what would happen, I watched to see if any of the "brave women" would use that stage to squeal on some man right there on the stage..to use their new empowerment to send another man, preferably a white man, a middle aged white man into the garbage dump ...but it never happened, i guess all the bad ones are now purged. Hollywood is clean, or so it seems. It started with red carpet and on and on and on and continued till Oprah who I have never associated with the film industry being turned into saint Oprah...it seems Oprah's hug can stop atomic bombs, reverse time and cure all disease or something like that . most saints have to be beatified by the Pope, not Oprah, she is now officially saint Oprah. What was interesting about the show is that none of the men seemed to acknowledge the feminine moment in time, was this a male backlash. Nothing will change, Hollywood is 95 percent under control of men, 95 percent of the directors are men, the writers, even the sound, lights, camera men all men. And the film industry is still a business and pretty young sexy women sell tickets, always have always will. That's all I learned from last night..nothing will change, this moment will flare out, and Oprah can see all.
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Enough patriarchal nonsense in America. Women are equal to men. Sadly too few women achieve leadership positions because powerful men have (for too long) believed them inferior.
Until the 1910's, most American women were not allowed to vote. In 1916 Jeanette Rankin became the first woman elected to Congress. In 1964 Patsy Mink became the first woman of color elected to Congress. Hillary Clinton was wrongly labeled "shrill" and a "nasty woman" in 2016. Women are 50.8% of the population but hold only 19.4% of the seats in Congress.
Helping more women get elected to Congress would reduce needless patriarchal stupidity in our legislative body. Corporations can and should promote more women into upper management. Women should receive the same pay for the same job men do. The Equal RIghts Amendment, introduced in 1923, almost passing in 1979, needs floor debate and passage by Congress. Put it on the 2018 docket immediately.
Millions peacefully protested in the 2017 Women's March as a wake up call. Brave women of #MeToo should make all Americans say "enough".
Oprah and other Golden Globe women are right. TIME'S UP! Men must actively promote an end to patriarchal discrimination in society. And men they don't act, then powerful women backed by a majority of freedom loving Americans demanding fairness will confront misogynist, chauvinist, bigoted men to tell them regularly, openly and loudly.
Time's Up!!!!
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Yes! You are right! You win! And I apologize in the name of all the (remaining) gentlemen of this patriarchal planet. But please, pretty please, could you give us back Kevin Spacey as president Underwood in House of Cards ? He's to good an actor, and frankly he means no harm to any woman.
Watch out. Oprah is being groomed by the Democrat party as their next presidential candidate. CBS is on her side, and is giving her big air time. She is an Obama clone of the opposite sex, so The Times and other left wing media outlets will be jumping on the bandwagon. Only in America.
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Hard to identify with millionaires who specialize in a fantasy world. The harassment problem is real but Hollywood also promotes the problem by glamorizing female beauty and gratuitous sex. Also, didn’t Kirk Douglas treat some women in a poor manner? I think the world of him as a talented actor, but double standards again? Maybe if these millionaires do some real work versus just wearing black $10,000 dresses for a worthless and self congratulatory dinner party, I might buy in.
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For some people watching at home, the pronouncements struck a hypocritical note. Weren’t some of these people the same ones who had been silent about Mr. Weinstein’s behavior for decades?
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Not only were these women remained silent about Harvey's indiscretions, to put it mildly, but many of them (men and women) were eloquent in their praise of and thanks for this "monster" who made many of the stars who they are today. Watch this amusing YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LItdTkVlKrk
I had said it before and I will say it again: if Hillary (who was eating from the palms of Harvey Weinstein's hands) had won the presidency, Harvey would still be the most thanked human in Hollywood and among Democrats running for office, and women like Ashley Judd and Hayek would have taken their little secrets to their graves.
Hypocrites.
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Go O Go! How refreshing to have someone with a vocabulary and a sense of purpose.
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I guess the real elephant in the room is where would the entertainment industry be without the Times original exposure of Mr Weinstein’s conduct.Where it has been for the last century ignoring the abuse of women.
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This Golden Globes show was quite good; it ran smoothly, and the assortment of awards was well chosen. If the theme of the show was the unification of women to stand up against sexual harassment by men in all forms of conduct ( personal and professional), then why were so many women ( mostly unified in wearing black) still wearing gowns or outfits with low cut fronts exposing their anatomy: most ridiculous of all was Catherine Zeta-Jones who looked like she was wearing a negligee from Victoria's Secret--utterly tasteless !
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People still enjoy watching self-indulgently pugnacious word memorizers? I thought we were done with these parades of obscenity.
Great. Trade the cult of Trump for the cult of Oprah. America might as well become Russia, evidently it's not interested in functional democracy anymore.
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No wonder movies are horrible. When the arts are taken hostage by a political/ social movement, the bar lowers and the inclusion widens ad everyone says isn't this so great, more woman, more minorities. It's a lie. Most everything is lousy, not by the fault of a minority, but because the standard ceases to be merit. The biggest lie is , let a black guy or a woman make a movie about a negative stereotype of their own group and see how receptive these phony Hollywood women are. One needs to back their agenda to be accepted. There's another word for this, Autocratic.
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I am very much over these people and their holier than thou attitudes. Perhaps they need to look in the mirror; the reckoning should be with those of them who accepted hush money for 20 years thereby allowing criminals like Weinstein to proliferate for 20 years.
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A hundred years or go, or so, a group of Jews from New York who were excluded from industry there moved to Californai and created the movie studios (see Neal Gabler's wonderful book on this for details). Now we have a lot of rich, coddled Hollywood actresses who protest by wearing black evening gowns (wow, life is tough when you give up color) and think that only black women should be allowed to make movies. Here's a thought -- the movie studios are designed to make money, not to promote social progress. If you feel strongly about this why don't you do what the Jews were forced to do a century ago and start your own studios, then you can make all of your choices based on the structure of one's genitals and the amount of melanin in one's skin. I dont think the women i see daily who work several jobs to feed their kids have much sympathy for your plight, to be honest, and would refer you to the recent opinion piece in the Times which pointed out that the 'me too' movement has regressed the view of women to the Elizabethian standard when they were considered too fragile to make their own way in the world...
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Typical entertainment self-infatuation. Leave it to the women to "protest" by wearing black-glam gowns whose price exceeds the annual salary of most of those who view their films and shows. Well, within the narcissistic world of self-awarding, I guess this counts as "woke"
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I did not watch. But according to the NY Times it must have been really important. 4 (5?) stories related to Golden Globes, right at the very top of the electronic edition. Personally, I have no idea what this award is for. TV, Movies, Stand-up, Fashion? But the Times sure wants me to know. I hope the Nobel's get equal footing --- the Lasker, Pulitzers, Fields medal, too! I do follow those awards. They seem important. Celebrities - not so much.
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May I be politically incorrect for a moment and state that I'm utterly bored with all this self righteous sexual harassment guff.
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An article about self-absorbed narcissists by the main mouth piece for self-absorbed narcissists. The only thing missing is President Trump, who would fit right in with all the other self-absorbed narcissists, except he's from the wrong side of the tracks.
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i fell asleep in the first hour. So boring. So unentertaining.
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I just want a winning candidate and defeat the Republican out of the WH. America is too frail to withstand another GOP occupant of the WH. This fatal flu disintegrating the American system of government and we have only so many days to recover, or we might just die of Trumpneumonia completely.
They got the picture, in the transcript of Oprah's speech she spelled it out plainly, their time is up. The real picture is emerging, call it Gone Is Their Day, the writing is on the wall about those good old day’s.
Unexpectedly, the Sun has come up on all of it.
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Wearing black is a fashion statement, not a protest. Had these women refused to parade down the red carpet, or donned somber garb (Yay, Claire Foy!) they would've appeared less hypocritical. The million-dollar gowns festooned with glitter and cleavage only prove to show how woefully out of touch with reality these women are.
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Showing cleavage nullifies the point these women are making? How so?
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It nullifies the point by exposing far more flesh than any man could ever do, without becoming the butt of jokes and ridicule.
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Ms Winfrey is one of the most accomplished business people and successful entertainer of all time, male or female. Good for her to be recognized for lifetime achievement.
Whether she decides to serve the country as an elected representative/leader or not is completely her decision and the decision of the voters. Is she qualified, absolutely. Let the voters decide.
Don't confuse the issue of qualified with Hollywood whacky behavior.
Celebrate a legendary American business woman for all her accomplishments.
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While I think it's about time that the culture of sexual harassment in the entertainment business and elsewhere be addressed as strongly as it is right now, let's not run away with ourselves. In 2008, I remember people celebrating the election of the first black president, and the continual discussion of us entering a possible post racial society. One only need look at the lump of rich white male privilege now occupying the White House to understand that we need to exercise caution before making sweeping pronouncements.
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Nice and easy; aside from Oprah's monologue, much pomp remains, but little lasting value in a make-believe world. Of note, it does not compare with Trump's real life make-believe fiction he is trying to sell as 'his' reality...to our chagrin, a demagogue dwarfing entertainment with childishly irresponsible clownish flair...to our irremediable loss. With our trust in democratic institutions gone, and the trust in each other shattered, the ill-effects of this 'ugly American' shall be long-lasting, far beyond his, however short, rein of terror. The black dresses of Hollywood's royalty may represent short-lasting mourning, as it is still hoped a transformation of our 'macho' psyche is nearby.
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I love Oprah and think she is a highly intelligent woman who could play an important part in the world stage especially at the UN. I am still hoping that Michelle Obama will consider running as she was 8 years in Washington and is respected around the world that she traveled as First Lady.
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It isn't clear what was being celebrated--half the monologue comments were negative insinuations or racist bias against Anglo-Saxons or Whites; the other about White males who evidently have a monopoly in female-directed violence. If this is what the Left deems progressive, it seems rather a devolution. It was obviously a highly structured and financed de facto political rally. As for the former Harpo studios owner, she plays the same strategic role-formatting as in her television programming: provocateur in populism. In this regard, she is merely a Trump analogue in different mien. Of course it is difficult to convince in reason, that which was implanted with emotion.
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The Pentagon Papers is such old news that even the star power couldn't lift it into relevance. And, this close to awards season, how obvious is it to bring it into the ring for no other reason. How much more controversial might any topic around Viet Nam be than Nick Turse's "Kill Anything That Moves"? Compared to it, the Pentagon Papers were a clerical error. If you want to get indignant about something how about atrocity? But this level of tyranny, tyranny testified to by the people who actually committed the atrocities, would never make it out of the marginalized jar its kept in ... oh, its out there and it exists but how much are they willing to face up to the implications it illuminates for the Truth of how our boys executed that invasion. How about a film about that? You could star the cast of the Expendables.
There are people all over the world walking ,talking being exploited and abused. It was a nice change to listen to people who have the opportunity to do the jobs they want vs working in a cold factory to think about others outside of themselves. I would of liked to hear how we all can contribute to the legal fund to assist women. However, we should not get caught up in the feel good moment of. Winfreys speech, because people like her and Angeline Joile should of been carrying the banner for others who do not have the platform to speak for decades. Ms. Jolie, Hollywood royalty should of been a mentor for others. When you know something you should share your knowledge so that others are not hurt. Ms. Winfrey has made significant misstep's i.e. building a school in South Africa because kids in Chicago don't want to learn, selecting a South African principal with a past to be in charge. Giving money to a public school district without monitoring where and how the money was spent. However it was good for rating to bash public education and be the never ending star. Currently we have a showman in the white house now. I don't think the country can afford to have another in the near future. It will take years to get out of the hole we are in if ever .
I don't watch award shows but wanted to hear if beside wearing black people would address the issues. For the most part they did but outside of the legal fund I wanted more and didn't get it. However it is a start.
Oprah’s words sound like a Trump speech - all hyperbole, no solutions. All talk, no action.
Plenty of hyperbole in the civil rights movement of the 50’s and 60s too, until black activists were arrested for refusing to move to the back of the bus, and Eisenhower sent federal troops into Little Rock. Until the harrassed take responsibility for catching harrassers red-handed, and prosecuting them, nothing will change.
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They used to say in Hollywood that casting couch is the gateway to stardom.
What gave?
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Hollywood liberals will ride whatever wave comes their way so long as it generates publicity, but nothing ever changes. More and more, I find liberalism to be all talk, no action.
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Please, no talk of Oprah, Mark Cuban, or anyone else with no experience in elected office being a suitable candidate for the Presidency. It is not an entry-level position, as Trump proves every day.
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For god's sake, please no more celebrity politicians. No more politicians who want to "run the country like a business". No. Just, no. Enough.
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Important issues are being addressed in our country and it is a good thing. Problem occurs when the message is delivered without nuance or sensitivity. Hitting people over the head with a two-by-four is going to have very bad results. This is the problem with our current government and was the problem with the Globes last night. Dividing instead of bringing together, whether it is gender or political leanings or racism.
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Having seen 1) "Three Billboards...", "Places and Faces", "The Square" and "Ladybird" as well as the series "Big Little Lies" it was a decent year for films with meaning, as opposed to entertainment blockbusters, which I never go see.
The main defect of "Big Little Lies" is its fantasy ending. Otherwise, it featured some really good acting around an important topic.
"Ladybird" was fine, and I have a sentimental attachment to Laurie "Mrs. Mary Cooper" Metcalf. But the ending was too sappy and feel-goody for me. "Three Billboards..." did more to earn its somewhat sentimental ending.
I loved how "The Square" not only skewered the pretentiousness of the art world, but also highlighted how addiction to personal technology makes its addicts do stupid things. Liz Moss was great in that one too.
"Places and Faces" was brilliant. However, I now most Americans don't read subtitles, don't watch French films, and wouldn't be interested in how a young artist and a very old artist bond.
Frances McDormand was riveting as always. Glad she got some recognition.
It was bizarre that no women were nominated for "Best Director."
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The abject lack of awareness of the female half of the industry is daunting. The movie industry is predicated on perpetuating a male's idea of what is normal heterosexual behavior, what the female role is, how they should act, look, and dress. It generationally refines these behaviors according to new ideas, trends and cultural movements. With it's vast taste making and cultural shaping influence it literally has defined what it means to be female. TheMe Too Movement is fine. But it is a reaction to a monolithic male dominated industry. So, I wouldn't expect any thing other than cosmetic changes for a long time...these will slowly percolate down as female influence grows. But it will take time. Dressing in black is one thing. True marrow deep change is another. Call me in 25 years and we can discuss where it ended up.
NOOOOO. No. Oprah should not run for President. First, she doesn't want to. Second, there are plenty of female politicians on the rise who have put in the work and the time. They pale to Oprah celebrity beam of light but C'mon Oprah is at end of line of competent women qualified in DC. Michelle Obama's name should be invoked before Oprah, am sure Oprah would agree.
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These are a bunch of silly, pretty, dressed up rich people who are play-acting. So pretentious and so unreal, but pretending to be real. America is intoxicated by this form of propaganda (and now marijuana and other drugs). Enough of Hollywood in politics! Enough of Reagan, Schwarzeneger, Trump, Billy Bush, et al. If someone like Oprah Winfrey wants a career in politics, she should have started and pursued her career in politics --- walking districts, getting to know people, political districts, officials at all levels of government, learning government and history, developing political leadership skills, and selling herself to people who hold positions in parties. As it is, Ms. Winfrey is exploiting her TV personality. She chose her career and she should remain in it for now and not bamboozle a vulnerable American electorate. Perhaps she should encourage and inspire qualified people to run for office and serve our country.
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I didn't watch any of this extravaganza, but I get the distinct impression Hollywood is going to have Oprah elected president in 2020. As of this morning, all the TV news shows have fallen in line. Watch the drama unfold as our media tell us who we will vote for. The campaign starts now. Mark my words.
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Anyone who votes according to an overpaid news reader or actor ought to sit out the election.
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Talk’s cheap. If Hollywood can help women (thus the world), it will be through its movies—movies that glorify kindness not violence, creation not destruction, unity not division, love not hate.
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While I totally agree with the MeToo movement, I find it a little pretentious for a room full of very wealthy personalities describing themselves as victims. Yes, there is pay inequity, and sexual predation. However, why didn't they speak about women and the lower edge of society, e.g., hotel workers, manufacturing, etc. who have no voice. Where was the indignation about a President and his daughter making millions of dollars off of the sweat, and toil of Asian women and men, overseas, crafting their clothing lines? Oh, forgive me, Making America Great Again, doesn't apply to foreigners doing our bidding. How many of the dresses and tuxedos worn by the partiers came from outside the United States? I guess correcting inequities MUST ALWAYS start at the top of society. Let the goodies trickle down to those who are really in need help. Sound familiar?
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Great. Thats what the world needs...leadership from Oprah and Hollywood.
I watched Oprah's speech live. I guess my contrarian view is this: There is no doubt that her thoughts were heartfelt. There also is no doubt that she had a message. But, throughout her speech I kept wondering, to whom are her remarks directed? To all the girls watching as she stated? If so, young girls would have a hard time sorting out those almost random statements. To men? To the choir she was obviously preaching to?
So, I guess I am left with my original question about her intended audience and/or targets. However, I am a man so what do I know?
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Take it as just a speech. Laudable but no concrete answers or solutions to the root problem. Sounded like another empty political speech to get the crowd fired up.
Oprah would be a formidable candidate: smart, self-made Wealthy, obviously adept businesswoman and a powerful orator.
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But what's her platform? And how will her running impact the Democratic Party? I think often we're too easily swayed by orators who speak eloquently.
I personally think she would have a greater impact influencing the grassroots movement and therefore encouraging more to enter politics at the local and state level
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My guess is that every nominee comes to the ceremony with a previously written acceptance speech, with the hope of winning the award. Virtually every woman winner expressed support for #metoo in their speeches, and none of the men winners did. How come? It's about more than wearing a pin.
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Minnie Driver, among other advocates, has called for men to shut up and let the women do the talking. Maybe the "men winners" took their advice.
All those years of the 'casting couch' and all of a sudden Hollywood is mortified.
Sorry, I don't buy it.
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Why no mention of Allison Janney’s acceptance speech? She touched a nerve that evidently is beyond the comprehension of the people privileged to be at that ceremony.
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What is your evidence for that lack of comprehension?
Her acceptance speech was well-received.
Oprah Winfrey has been an incredible entertainer and business woman, and no doubt that her career has given her good insight into a wide cross section of Americans, but that does not qualify her to be president. There is a reason that most of our presidents and federal officials since the inception of our country have been lawyers: as Mario Cuomo said a generation ago, while we campaign in poetry, we govern in prose, and the prose with which we govern are laws, regulations, administrative codes, interpretive memoranda, and case law.
While it is unreasonable to expect that anyone could be knowledgeable in all facets of the modern administrative state, it is entirely reasonable for a presidential candidate to have some depth in at least one policy area. Ms. Winfrey has none, and making her the standard bearer of the Democratic party would act to further devalue knowledge, expertise, and experience in governing, no matter how good a person she demonstrably is.
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The President most needs the ability to select good, knowledgeable aides, listen to them and know when to agree or disagree.
Did anyone notice the distinct ambiance of discomfort among many men at that event? There were those on the bandwagon and cheerleading the moment - who have made the adjustment. And those who had not were walking on eggshells.
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Maybe it made men uncomfortable if they have never conducted themselves poorly and yet are being lectured. Not a great thing to turn all men into sheep.
Quite a lot of women knew about Spacey and Weinstein and didn't say anything, from his assistants at Miramax to well established actors (sorry Meryl). They stayed quiet.
I guess Ricky Gervais was getting a little too threatening. He probably would have laid into the crowd for the favorable tax benefits they'll all be enjoying while crusading for other issues might have had the spotlight shared. Seth Myers is great but he's not even Gervais lite. This symbolizes how the real Power operates.
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I love this comment. My spin on this is Hollywood's time as "influencers" is over, and the people will quickly tire of them preaching on one thing while doing the exact opposite. If #MeToo serves any lasting purpose, that will be it.
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Here we go, some Dems already being diverted and day-dreaming about losing the next presidential election with fantasies about another unelectable person who knows how to give a pleasing speech and tick all the approved boxes.
And while we are on the general subject, enough about the Golden Gloves already.
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I don't normally watch these shows, but I watched the Golden Globes and it was an extremely powerful moment. Solidarity, sisterhood, pointed talking points peppered through on the red carpet and on stage.
The fact that the men said little didn't surprise me but I was disappointed. The problem of sexual harassment and unequal pay will not change without the cooperation and leadership of men in the industry.
My favorite moment was Debra Messing calling out E! unequal pay while being interviewed by E!. Why is the male co-anchor paid about 10 times the amount the female co-anchor is paid when they have similar experience and started at E! the same year?
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I am still having to approach women for dates and they still are the ones deciding to talk to me or take me home. Women have the power and always have. They have to be skinny and pretty and we need to earn the money. Women of course earn money as CEO's, law partners, surgeons, etc. but then they can only be with a guy who earns as much or more or be alone.
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You don't understand that this belief, this type of thinking, is (and leads to much worse) misogyny? Women have one power over men. It's a strong power. And (straight) men secretly hate them for it. HATE them. A mindset you are advertising in your comment.
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Seth Myers was funny. I switched to a mixed martial act match after him.
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I usually only watch award shows on replay, so I could skip through all the pablum and advertisements. However, for this show ( and the Oscars forthcoming ) I wanted to be prescient and be in the moment in solidarity.
I was not disappointed, because there were plenty of of moments that were inspirational, uplifting and diametrically opposed to what is going on in the country and the world. It was a bit of escapism from people that do it for a living.
Hopefully the ''truth'' that was presented will carry over into our every day lives, and especially to all the kids watching that will take the correct cues.
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With all due respect, let's not seriously contemplate Ms. Wynfrey as a candidate for any political office. We should be looking for people who are trained in government, understand how it is supposed to work, so that they can hit the ground running. It's not about liking some one. It is having respect for their competency. Ms. Winfrey is likable but has never demonstrated competency as a representative in any form of government at any level. She is a voice for women, for blacks and for people at large, I suppose, whatever that may mean, but she is bankrupt when it comes to any kind of comprehensive knowledge of what a country needs to so to run well. Although it is kind of obvious that the USA is short on bonafide leaders, we need to be patient and try to cultivate, not fanatisize (fan worship as an obsession). Having some one in office that the people like is not the worst thing, but it is also not the only thing. Electing some one like this would debase the office, not uplift it. She does not strike me as Roosevelt or a Churchill. When you consider that the people elected Trump, perhaps we need to rethink what the people should be doing. They may not be the best judge of anything. A professional school of government, realizing a level of competency, as well as having the respect of your peers would be more in order, rather than political parties might produce far better representatives, who are not in their own reality or bought. Serving the country should be a profession.
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"Serving the country should be a profession."
Professional politicians are a major problem, not a requirement.
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'Serving the country should be a profession'. By the way, it is a public service, a calling that the right are trying to eliminate w their false narrative on small government and disenfranchising 'everyman'. Nor is the public land theirs to privatize.
Yet, here we have the most incompetent, the most dishonest, the most corrupt, mentally unhinged and morally bankrupt man as our President. And...this is who he was even before becoming President. Oprah looks, sounds, and is more than able to lead this nation after this abomination and poor excuse for anything we now have in the WH. My old shoes is more qualified than this bozo and his carnival clown car of fools. She is a humanitarian while this guy is a humanoid, devoid of care and empathy for others. Yes, I'll vote for this woman over this sad excuse.
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Thanks to all the celebrities and staff who wore black in honor of the #MeToo movement. Attention boys and girls who are abusing power: as Oprah Winfrey, and women around the world say, "Time's UP!"
Thanks to Seth Meyers for his stellar performance! He did an excellent job of dodging the cannon balls while getting his points squarely across.
Thanks to Christopher Plummer for stepping in and portraying Insatiably Greedy John Paul Getty with excellence in "All The Money In The World" when Kevin Spacey was kicked out of the role.
Thanks to the powerful, socially conscious women who spoke out forcefully against sexual misconduct and abuse of power of every kind. Special thanks to Barbara Streisand for reminding us that, as the only woman to get Best Director award at the Golden Globe awards in 1984, women have appeared to have been frozen in place.
This awards show proves that women have not been "frozen". Women dug in, during and after the male backlashes that came with Nixon/Reagan, and strengthened their power. It showed in full force last night.
NOW is the time for Socially Conscious Women around the world to put an end to the male model of power-over and to take one-half the power to bring the world into balance.
Hit the streets on January 20/21 to preserve/restore the one thing you value most about democracy in America and around the world. Every single social/human good since WW2 is in danger.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/WomensMarch2018USA/events/
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@njglea - Thanks to Mr Plummer for stepping in...? Huh? Its an acting job. Its not charity work, its paid work, and I bet its a decent paycheck...
"Stepped up"...lol! Like a hungry wolf he stepped up to the carcass...
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It’s disappointing to read comments here about just wanting to be “entertained.” These award shows are industry events. Because the industry is entertainment itself, these shows are televised. What is wrong with political or social statements? Art is political. And this type of art also happens to be a huge industry of great collective effort. There are tons of thoughtful and creative people who work really hard behind the scenes in TV and film and I, for one, applaud them for speaking out. There were important meta moments. Note the continuing ascendancy of Hulu, Netflix and Amazon, including Jeff Bezos’s attendance. Note the increased presence of people of color. Note the celebration of the press. Note the extraordinary professionalism and rhetorical prowess of Oprah Winfrey. Her speech was better, and better delivered, than the factitious drivel coming out of the Executive and Legislative branches of our government. We should celebrate, not denigrate, this change.
Hooray for Hollywood.
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While I admire Hollywood for trying to enact real change, I'm sorry that so many people feel compelled to have Oprah run for president.
A few rousing words doesn't qualify one to run the world's most powerful country.
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Enough celebrity presidents already. The down-in-the-trenches stuff of policy formulation and governing are what matter the most, not name recognition and the sheer force of personality. Just because Republicans could do it doesn't mean that Democrats should try to copy them.
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We need not limit our leaders to lawyers and full time professional politicians. We'd do better to elect anybody else but that.
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Have you forgotten "yes, we can?" His only qualification for POTUS was an aspirational slogan which, fortunately for him, caught on although it was free from any content as to what "can" would be addressed. Eight years later, it could have been "no we couldn't!"
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I watched part of this show and then turned it off. I was happy to read that Gary Oldman won. In my opinion, he also deserves the Oscar. He is long over-due for an Oscar win.
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What was so great about Oprah's speech? I don't see it. Can we please have people who know something government running for president, before we continue on our path to Idiocracy.
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I concur Ms. Thorsen about having people who know something about government run for president. The current president is the classic example of this argument.
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Excellent selections for top awards - some fresh talent like Ronan, plus the brilliance of McDormand, Rockwell and del Toro.
But the industry must eventually pivot from black attire and the awfulizing about Weinstein and his kind. His kind will always be part of Hollywood. Deep change does not happen overnight. The Industry needs to move away from its political tirades, which are sour, divisive and boring, and focus on rebuilding its entertainment offerings to include a wider audience. Award show ratings continue to decline, although I haven't heard the numbers for the Globes. For the Oscars, they have been dismal. For instance, I did not watch the Globes because it's seldom interesting and too long. Double this for the Oscars.
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It's nice that men were there to support the "movement" but the bottom line is they have absolutely nothing to lose. Women will never be o par with men in this liberal industry...............NEVER. Lack of female directors, pay scale still far below that of their male counterparts. So much liberalism in Hollywood but no equality. Funny that.
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I believe merit is more important in this industry. Women are getting their fair share. Men do all the work and they reap the reward of best actress!
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Actually, the opposite is quite true. Women started in the film industry on an equal footing with men and or often the more prolific directors and screenwriters. The misogynists who infiltrated from outside and created the studio system, squeezed all the women out or into other roles such as editor rather than director. Given that, as more and more women begin to produce and direct (and they certainly are), it is quite possible that we could go back to the equilibrium of the early days of filmmaking.
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Women will get their "fair share" when they have the opportunity to show what they can do, and they then produce work on the scale and par of men.
I think some people are just fine with sub-par work by women winning awards over great work by men in the interest of fairness.
NO, THANK YOU.
Let's earn this.
Enough! The morally corrupt Hollywood lecturing America on how we should think. The Hollywood casting couch, yes for both men and women, has long been known to exist.
We agree Harvey Weinstein's predatory behavior is not novel, but the very actors and actresses who chose fame, and fortune, fatter checkbooks in stead of coming forward, gave Harvey the power he really never had. Harvey, along with other men and, yes women were given power by a morally corrupt choice of victims remaining victims, keeping silent.
Coming out 10, 20, 30 years later says more about the lack of self worth and choices actors, and actresses made, for their careers and checkbook.
The silent competition among women to dress in a manner which shows more breast, leg or revealing their womanly curves, than the next woman, showing more, is dressing to appeal to the opposite sex, to place their goodies on a tray for all to see and want is self objectifying their sex instead of their intelligence and abilities.
Accept responsibility for your actions or better yet your inaction.
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Coming out 10, 20, 30 years earlier would have been futile. Those who were harrased and/or assaulted had no power against the powerful and would have been ignored at best, and ground into dust, more likely. Such is still the case with those who called out POTUS. Who is listening to them?
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What other people choose to wear is none of your business.
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They should be able to dress as they wish without harassment, but I would have been more convinced of their sincerity if their black outfits had been much simpler and they had worn their hair down and their faces natural.
“It took only four minutes for Harvey Weinstein to be booed on Sunday night at the 75th Golden Globes.”
Hollywood's elite knew about Weinstein for decades but enabled him for the sake of money and fame. Now these phonies are appalled by him? I'm not buying it.
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It seems that people who have always had it within there power and influence to take action on sexual harassment, are now elbowing their way on to the hurtling bandwagon. Just another opportunity for dramatic acting by professionals from that field.
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Norman, you put that very succinctly. Something was bothering me about the whole "#MeToo" but I couldn't figure it out. (And I am a woman)
I've worked in the industry for over 17 years and cannot only say #Metoo, but know of many, many other incidences where other women were incomparable situations. It's so rampant that one almost becomes inured to it, accepts it as a condition of working life.
The number of women on a movie/tv set is minute in comparison to men, there are rarely women in positions of power, ie: departmental heads, producers, directors. And just because someone is an actor, even a well-recognized talent, does not mean they wield power or are immune to predatory behavior and unwanted sexual contact.
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Hollywood who has been exploiting the sensual beauty of women forever is now upset that they are being treated like sex objects. Too amusing.
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Loved all the self-righteous indignation on display last night.
I guess these women didnt mind being harassed while they were getting paid millions of dollars per film and living the high life.
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Please read the harrowing accounts of abuse by Salma Hayek and Lupita Nyong'o published in the Times in recent months and revise your ill-considered comment.
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No -- they reveled in it. And their careers were 100% dependent on them being in the top 1% of all women in looks and thinness.
It's not like there is some fair, equitable competition for acting jobs based on TALENT ALONE -- looks count about 90%. How many talentless but pretty actresses are out there? (Actors, too -- it's gender-blind.)
Without winning the "genetics lotto for good looks", 99% of these women would not be in Hollywood and we would not know their names. They would be office workers, nurses, teachers, librarians or other ordinary jobs. They would be ORDINARY. They would not have selections of dozens of gorgeous ballgowns for free, as did Laura Dern in a recent, fawning article. They would not be lined up in low-cut-sparkly black evening gowns, wearing millions in Harry Winston jewels if they looked like you or me.
They are the ULTIMATE beneficiaries of extraordinary UNEARNED privilege and yet they whinge and think they are "put upon".
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Yes, and not to mention the obvious of being offered an entire lifetime of adulation, fame and riches for a brief encounter.
Sure, you could slog it out with the rest of us not so, "gifted," but being pushed to the front of the line is not just American it's ubiquitous.
Life is not fair, and even getting the offer is not fair. Offers, like that are rare. Pragmatism, is not puritanism.
Feigning surprise about the Golden Globes "going political?"
That's the reason I tuned in along with anticipating that Ridley Scott and Christopher Plummer would win. Oprah's storytelling was magnificent as she personalized the experience for the audience. That alone was worth the price of admission.
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Have to say it was a bit ironic at the end of the presentation to have Dakota Johnson on the stage. Her movies epitomize sexual harassment.
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I couldn't believe it and was that nervous laughter I heard from the audience. Very strange.
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In fact it does not epitomize harassment. It's her choosing to be in that type of relationship. Some people are into kinky sex. It takes all kinds.
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Yup, nothing says "feminist empowerment" like being in the "50 Shades of Grey" trilogy of films, about passive girls being WHIPPED and sexually dominated in BSDM sicko relationships with billionaires named "Grey".
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Hearing the noise about Oprah for President proves yet again how out of touch the entertainment industry. Putting politics aside and admitting that I admire Oprah, the fact is that celebrity is not a good qualification for the Presidency, in fact a negative factor. Everybody loves celebs until they open their mouths about politics. They are seen as rich spoiled children who hardly have to work and have the wealth to adopt a "moral" high ground no one else can afford. The Democrats should have learned from the last Presidential election. Hillary was nominated in a rigged convention, not because she was qualified for the job but because she was a celebrity married to a super star celeb who controlled from the Convention (super delegates). She ran a celeb fueled campaign that stoked up resentment about her ability to touch the lives of natural Democratic voters in the "rust belt". Stories about her flight back to NY after the last campaign event drinking wine and playing games with celeb friends like Jon BonJovi only cemented the perception of being out of touch. Republicans in the same campaign rejected good candidates to opt for a celeb as well. This time a celeb who ran as the anti-celeb celeb! Guess who won! Neither party can afford to go the celeb route again. They need to get back to basics and find people who become candidates because they earned it and are truly from the people!
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Yeah, you lost me at: "not because she was qualified for the job".
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Apart from Oprah's magnificent speech, the highlight for me was Frances McDormand's acceptance speech. She was salty, idiosyncratic and notably lacking in makeup or a drastically low-cut gown sported by so many of the other actresses who in this male defying atmosphere were eager to advertise their sexual attractiveness.
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It is curious why they dress all the more alluringly when they're supposedly not advertising.
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I would have been happier had they not cut to Meryl Street ad nausea. So silent after the Weinstein news hit.
I would think that, if they were sincere about ending sexism, they would not have separate awards for "actor" and "actress."
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I agree.
In fact, the Screen Actor's Guild has already done that. They award to male and female 'actors.'
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Let's face it - this is a show about political correctness, self-gratification. The majority of the movies don't resonate with the public (meaning, they don't go to see them), and the majority of the speeches must address some aspect of the social agenda - race (last year), sexual harassment (this year), gays, inclusion (meaning Muslims), and, always, Donald Trump.
Quite predictable and not very entertaining.
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There is an award for most popular--it's called the people's choice. You seem to be implying that "Fast & Furious 7", grotesque horror, or super hero/cartoon/video game tie-in schlock should be represented here. The Golden Globes, Oscars, SAG and the Directors' Guild awards are movie industry professionals recognizing the BEST work within their field. Because celebrities are involved, these ceremonies are televised. Some celebrities have chosen to use their 30 seconds to communicate about causes about which they care deeply. Please feel free to turn to whatever 'entertainment' floats your boat.
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Furthermore, this is not really new. Politicizing the awards shows goes back to the 70s, and Brando refusing his Oscar and sending some Native American lady to speechify about "Indian rights" instead.
It was a borefest then too, so they "fixed it" by focusing more on glamor and evening gowns. But like all bad trends, it's ba-a-a-a-ack.....
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Happened before Brando, George C. Scott refused his. And it was Sasheen Littlefeather who accepted Brando's Oscar.
What a disgrace. The most misogynistic sexually exploitive show with a male director/producer wins best drama and they try to make us think things are changing. When intelligent women stand up against shows like the Handmaiden’s Tale from ever getting made perhaps we will move forward! Perhaps our daughters will be the change.
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The best thing about "The Handmaid's Tale" was that it created a new audience for a wonderful book. All thanks to Margaret Atwood.
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Have you actually watched The Handmaid's Tale or read the book? It's satirical. The author is a woman.
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Laura - perhaps you should try reading "The Handmaid's Tale" before calling it (or its namesake TV show) "misogynistic" and sexually exploitive." It might change your mind.
On the other hand, if you've already read it and you still think that, then I don't know what to say to you.
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I believe the #Metoo movement is an excellent thing for this Country. That said, another celebrity running for office is not a good thing for the Country. We need folks who understand the law and the Constitution and have big ideas for advancing the Country and not a name we know from a talk show.
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It was MUCH more interesting to see the interactions on the red carpet rather than the posed pix. Far more dynamic and much better for anyone watching who thinks women wake up looking like that every day.
Thanks for the switch and please continue the trend.
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Some will say, perhaps most if asked, that Oprah is not qualified to be president of the United States, if she would decide to run for this office. Can we be serious for a moment and consider the current qualifications required to be president of the United States? Could they be any lower than the American people used to elect Donald J. Trump? Hopefully, those who seek the office in the future with raise the standards of expertise, ethical behavior, commitments to the common good, and all the other appropriate qualifications for president. Hopefully, those who seek the office can restore the office from the disgrace the American people brought to it in electing a president who has debased the ideals and decency of our nation. Oprah Winfrey could restore the American presidency to its proper place of honor and respect in our country and in the world.
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The focus of last year's Academy Awards show was ripping Donald Trump to shreds (not that it wasn't warranted). Not a speech nor presenter passed up the golden opportunity to verbally smack him around. This year, the Golden Globes awards show (and no doubt so will the Screen Actor's and Academy Awards shows) focused and dominated the show with Hollywood's worst kept secret of sexual harassment and the Me Too movement.
Granted, these issues are important and must remain at the forefront. But I have to admit that I recall not that long ago when these awards shows were about the winners, the talent, the various designer gowns created for just that evening and NOT center stage for politics or social reform.
Last night's show was all about educating, enlightening, and elaborating on women and their many skills and talent instead of entertaining those who viewed from around the world. At times I thought I was at a college lecture with esteemed guest speakers than an awards show.
I support and wholeheartedly endorse the Me Too movement. But I also want to be entertained for even just a little while without having someone beat into my head the importance to this movement. It felt like they were "singing to the choir." If last night's Golden Gloves show is any indication of what's to come in the following months, possibly a lot of viewers (including me) will not be watching. The point was made, loud and clear.
A sincere congrats to all of last night's winners!
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Personally I don't mind if an awardee wants to talk about something that's important to society as a whole --- particularly if it's an area where they have some experience and understanding. It's MUCH less boring/ irritating than the endless "and my grandpa is watching back home in Grand Rapids --- we love you, grandpa!" speeches of yore.
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I don't necessary disagree with your comment Bruce, but shouldn't the awardee be given the opportunity and time to thank and say what he/she wants, especially since that person won the award, instead of the entire program's only message and mantra is #MeToo? I think the winner earned the right to say "and my grandpa is watching back home in Grand Rapids --- we love you, grandpa!" just as much as other winners thanked their deceased loved ones and/or small children watching at home and promising to drive them to school in the morning? I just think the focus and purpose of the show was lost. Social issues ARE important, but why must they ALWAYS dominate an awards show?
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I did not watch and it was too bad because I love to watch awards season. I just find the political commentary uninformed and unnecessary. I did read the transcript of Ms. Winfrey’s speech and thought it gracious, eloquent and apropos. Thank you Oprah! If only you would run for President... if not of the United States then at least of the MPAA?
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To show you how bad things have gotten in this country, I actually watched the Golden Globes to calm my political nerves. I should add, that in my life I have never watched an awards show, talent show, or beauty contest. But after last night and as long is Trump is in office, I might start.
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So you didn't notice any politics during the show? Was it on "mute"?
john --- is that what ACJ said? "Calming political nerves" and "taking a break from politics" is not necessarily the same thing. Maybe ACJ just wanted to see something where the good guys won for a change.
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I wish these guys just give out the awards and end the show in half an hour. But, at the end it’s a show- a show of politics, a show of social concern, a show of integrity, a show of honesty... and the script to remains the same with some trivial changes of hosts and script etc.
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If that's the point, why have a show at all? Just hand out the awards and announce who the winners are. No, this is a show of a party, and of what the people at the party want to say.
If you dont like it, turn it off, and get the list of awardees minutes afterwards on the web.
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In a companion article, an actress talked about how the epitome of beauty is shaped...but there is one theme that carries over into the "protest" at the Golden Globes as well: Women's bodies and "flawless" makeup is the ideal because our society teaches women from an early age that they need to have a man's approval and desire. Every time I see a family with a doting father and husband who has a wife who is far from the "mold", I want to give him an award. There are women inside those bodies, and they are stronger than all the protests in the world. Women need to have the self confidence to go out into the world without having to gauge their attractiveness to men based on their looks or bodies. When one looks at the really successful men, few are movie-star handsome and they are measured by their accomplishments. If the focus on women in the workplace and society were shifted, perhaps their sexual appeal might not be the first thing on men's minds...and the abusers would not have the confirmation of dominating them through sex as validation of their manhood.
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I agree with you about how many successful men do not look like movie stars, but I have noticed that they often have wives who do, especially the second or third wives.
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Thank you MountainDragonfly
for your wise comments! That’s why I loved seeing Francis McDormund on stage looking so beautifully natural! Not that the “fancy-shmancy folk” weren’t fun to look at as well!
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... And the abusers would not make it into the role of POTUS.
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