Spurned by ESPN, Barstool Sports Is Staying on Offense

Nov 14, 2017 · 84 comments
sdk (MA)
Living in Boston, I became aware of Barstool Sports some years ago when their print mag started showing up around town, and I leafed through it occasionally while riding the bus or sitting on a (yes) barstool. Unless the online version has made a qualitative leap, I'll continue to assume that you can find more interesting, insightful, and amusing commentary in real time in most any Boston barroom.
Colenso (Cairns)
For almost sixty years I’ve competed as a sub-elite athlete in a variety of sporting disciplines. Never been interested in watching others playing sports. Would rather spend the time wasted watching playing instead. I've always trained to the utmost at all times. I may not be a great athlete but nobody trains harder than I do. Using my body to its utmost is as important to me as using my mind to its utmost. The body is merely the vessel for the spirit but without a strong, resilient and healthy body one cannot have a strong, resilient and healthy spirit. As Xenophon tells us in his Memorabilia of Socrates, Socrates urged his pupil Epigenes to get his game together, not only because Epigenes had a duty to his fellow Athens to train in the art of warfare, but declaiming also, 'For what a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever knowing the strength and vigour of which his body is capable.'
Phil Basket (Long Island)
Really who really cares about sports except teenagers, people 20 to 40 with no life . Fathers that adher to their Sunday “mans” day is stupied, When I had kids in late 70’s I stopped watching sports and used time constructively . Either working OT or interacting with my family. Let me ask how many times are fans invited to Championship clubhouse, or share in prize money .
Curren (Santa Cruz)
In August 2000 the Magazine ran a piece about mooks ("the culture of white, Midwestern boredom" that gave rise to young men into Jackass, Insane Clown Posse, backyard wrestling, white rap metal). At that same time Jim Rome was developing a national reputation for sarcastic sports commentary. It seems like the stoolies are just the next generation of mooks meets Rome's "clones." And in 15 years the Magazine will write about the next wave of dudes doing things that some people find offensive and others will find funny.
Alex (Blacksburg, VA)
No one's going to make the connection between the Portnoy in the story and the main character in Roth's "Portnoy's Complaint?" Seems like there's are several themes there that could have framed this whole piece.
Adam Wright (San Rafael, CA)
Please….don’t overanalyze Barstool. It’s simply a site that features broish humor. Nothing more. PG rated pictures of women, sports, and funny videos. Nothing. More. It’s pizza reviews. It’s cubicle escapism; a kind of but not really guilty pleasure. We live in an era where seemingly every aspect of our existence somehow ends up being politicized. Does the need to categorize and label have any limits at all? Look- the vast, vast majority of straight men think “Grading the Newest Sex Teacher Scandal” is absolutely worth spending 60 seconds of their time reading. That opinion’s not rapey. It’s not associated with the Ring wing. It’s not racist. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Christine (Boston)
Like another commenter I am a well educated liberal woman. I have read Barstool since the beginning. Sometimes things are just plain funny and being so PC all the time gets exhausting. I am not necessarily proud of it nor do I endorse some of the views but clearly they are doing something right since I keep coming back.
Leave Capitalism Alone (Long Island NY)
Returning to the site is effectively an endorsement as the click counters tell the operators what draws eyes and therefore revenue.
QTCatch10 (NYC)
"Portnoy says he doesn’t really think ESPN’s future depends on the implied politics of its on-air personalities, but he knows a branding opportunity when he sees one." In other words, he's just giving the maroons what they want. He's happy to tell you this, because the maroons don't believe anything they see in the New York Times. It can be his safe space.
It’s News Here (Kansas)
This article provides another example of what is becoming an all-too-common thing these days; a segment of the population comes together and has their tender insecurities justified and then exploited by a small group of people. If a person can’t enjoy sports and banter while exhibiting basic decency to others then they should take a look in the mirror and ask themselves, “Who’s the problem here? Is it people who defend the dignity of others being taunted, or is it me?”
S. Frantz (Washington, DC)
This is corporate populism. Barstool portrays itself as representing the everyday (read: white male) sports fan as against a politically-correct elite. Just like our populist politicians, part of their appeal is their eagerness to break taboos. And, as in politics, social media has allowed them to appeal directly to their base while remaining an obscure curiosity to the rest of us, until suddenly they’re too big to ignore.
Josh (Connecticut)
Regardless of how you feel about Barstool, the feature is absolutely necessary because they are not going to go away. Barstool's fanbase is young and expanding. I would be willing to bet that among 16-25 year olds Barstool is behind only ESPN in terms of brand recognition and familiarity for sports content producers. I enjoy most of Barstool's content and visit the site daily, more or less. Most of what Barstool does is very mundane. Most Barstool fans are not close-minded misogynists. While both of these statements are true, they are also not viable excuses for the actions of fans or some of the content Barstool publishes. Most Barstool supporters being decent people does not excuse the minority who are antagonistic and bigoted. Most of Barstool's content being harmless and silly does not excuse the instances where what they post is offensive and degrading. I hope that Barstool bloggers and fellow Barstool fans can do a better job of calling out those who antagonize others under the guise of supporting Barstool. I also hope both groups can better hold accountable those who are part of Barstool and post content on the site that is hurtful. By no means am I saying that Barstool should become the "PC" environment it rails against. But perhaps with more effort put into holding bloggers and fans accountable, the need to write the "requisite paragraph" that comes with every mention of Barstool would be eradicated.
Jim (Missouri)
Barstool is great. Salt of the earth kind of people
JJR (L.A. CA)
Pro Sports is in a tough place. Football players and Boxers are giving each other brain damage for money. Baseball players Abuse Steroids or their wives or both. The NBA is a swamp of money and exploitation, and that goes twice for the NCAA. All of these are disastrous for pro sports in the modern age: Good. Because really, paying people to play sports so you can briefly feel good about your tribal affiliation when overpaid sex criminals successfully catch a ball is actually pretty stupid. And yes, by extension, this makes Pro Sports stupid and Pro Sports Journalism equally stupid. Being able to be a fan of any sports team requires huge levels of self-delusion: This matters (no, it does not), it matters to my town (but your local Pro Athletes don't care about your town), it matters to my team (but your 'heroes' will be paid anyhow, and paid far more than you make for doing something actually useful like being a nurse or a cop or a soldier). Barstool Sports isn't a fluke. This is how you have to now shout obscenities and caper to get the attention of the last few people left inside the low-information I-love-mah-sports bunker. I'll be outside, thanks, not defining my self-worth by the question of how well a group of not actually local local overpaid millionaires play 'catch.'
Minority Observer (New York)
It could be argued that self aggrandizement of the magnitude displayed in your post and becoming pedestrian in our daily culture that an escape like Barstool Sports is necessary. It must be exhausting to be that self-righteous all of the time.
JWM (Boston)
One bite, everyone knows the rules.
Chaim Cohen (Brooklyn, NY)
Portnoy is a shameless opportunist who perpetuates a culture of political apathy and chauvinism for the sake of building an "edgy" brand. I agree that ESPN is staid and corporate - there is certainly room for fresh voices and programming in sports - yet I fear that Barstool has normalized some of the worst elements of our culture, hindering progress on issues like gender and racial equity for the sake of clicks.
D.A.Oh (Middle America)
“Once upon a time, they” — ESPN — “were the coolest people in the room,” said Richard Deitsch, a media columnist for Sports Illustrated, in a podcast discussing the controversy. “That’s not the case in 2017. It’s the opposite. They are polarizing; people dislike them on all sides.” ESPN is "polarizing" because they are seen as too liberal and/or too black. If you can handle that they are diverse and share opinions, then they are not polarizing whatsoever..
Nate (Manhattan)
the kind of guys who talk tough but are afraid of me in the gym
sean (los angeles)
you said it, Nate
Counter Measures (Old Borough Park, NY)
The seeds were laid for this, when the Dodgers left Brooklyn, and signs began to appear in Shea Stadium during the Mets run to the 1986 World Series, that read"Let's Get Ugly"! These weren't old Brooklynite Dodger fans anymore, who welcomed Jackie Robinson! And those baseball caps began to appear everywhere!!!
Iver Thompson (Pasadena, CA)
Is it any wonder women have such a low opinion of men? Is that all God has to offer us, they must be wailing at him. It will be interesting to see how deep a hole the almighty can dig for himself.
Andrew L (New York)
Sounds the alarms!! Shudder and wail!! Guys like drinking beers with other guys, looking at girls, and watching sports, and don't like humorless busybodies lecturing them about how horribly wrong those things are.
Leave Capitalism Alone (Long Island NY)
You're right. If they don't know how wrong that is by the time they can legally consume alcohol, then there's no explaining it to them.
Seth (D.C.)
I'm this website's target demo and from my point of view, the only one with talent is PFT Commenter on the Pardon My Take podcast -- and he had a mega following before he came to Barstool. Rest of the cast are disposable perpetual wannabe frat boy dorks who try way too hard to project what they think an alpha male is like. It's a cringe factory of bitter, late-bloomer betas and the sort of creepy old guys in skinny pants who hang in college bars letting random coeds who find them gross run a tab on their Amex. I'd bet the Pardon My Take duo are secretly fielding offers to leave Barstool for a multi-million dollar deal -- they'd be fools to stay and let Portno and Chernin keep 90% of their proceeds. Maybe ESPN's John Skipper will get the last laugh...
Zach (San Francisco)
What the New York Times recognizes here, but often ignores is that there is a large segment of the US population that is both economically and socially progressive but is tired of social justice warriors and their constant political correctness. We love barstool for precisely these reasons and it’s audience is exactly like its founders and bloggers — jokingly sexist at times and seeing no contradiction between our support for i.e Hillary Clinton and our support for El Presidente and barstool “smoke of the day.” My point is not to change opinions — it’s easy to jump all over this comment as it is to jump on barstool — but to say like it or not, we exist in large numbers. Further, I’d argue that the democratic party’s focus on political correctness turned many should-be progressives to Trump and his dangerous lack of political correctness. There is a middle ground and that is where barstool flourishes.
Lynda (Gulfport, FL)
Very well-written article, Jay Caspian King. I must admit to not watching ESPN and certainly not being in the target age or gender group of the audience for Barstool Sports. Apparently the only four sports I do follow with any regularity---Rugby Union, Pro-Cycling, Golf and some sailing events-- aren't ever topics of conversation among the Stoolies, although I think they might like Rugby Union or even League. Nevertheless I appreciated the profiles of the people at Barstool Sports: where they came from, why they are there and what they see as the future of sports commentary. This article is a well-told story of the birth and growth of an unfiltered communications company that started small and had big ideas which would require some serious "re-configurations" or not-- as recent events seem to indicate. King's vivid descriptions must come close to matching the actual personalities at Barstool or there would not be so much controversy about their attempt at a middle of the night mainstream sports talk show. As a woman, as a person who has as an adult fought for inclusiveness, a bold boys only clubhouse with very strong warnings about who is welcome and who is not 1) seems pretty juvenile to me for men past 25 yrs. 2) seems to be just a clone of other boys only clubhouses 3) seems like it could be more dangerous than a temporary escape to a world where women don't count as people and many men can be excluded. Time will tell how far over the line Barstool goes--or not.
Viva La Stool (NYC)
It's crazy how many people have the wrong perception of Barstool Sports. If you just opened your eyes and listened to these guys, you'd realize they aren't offensive at all, they just speak the truth in a comedic way. There is a reason why they are going up and getting bigger and bigger
Jeff (New York)
Why does the NY Times say "[expletive]" when quoting others? I read the Times because they respect the intelligence of their readers. It's OK to say the word when quoting others. It's better journalism and more respectful of the reader. It's actually why sites like Barstool thrive. Out of touch and overly vanilla provokes crudeness in others. I want to listen to Primus every time I hear Yani.
W. D'Alessandro (New Hampshire)
Barstool Sports can't possibly, ever, be on the offensive. An sick, vulgar, insanely aggressive outfit like it is will always (sensitive people would hope and pray) be on the defensive. And in fact, Barstool is. Except when headlines like this one pretend otherwise.
Corey (St. Louis)
When so much of the peoples' time today is spent online, Barstool seems like the anecdote to what's going on in American media. Hearts are more-so in the right place over there, on a grander scale, than I see elsewhere on the web, and that counts for a lot in such divisive times. It's community. It's trust that was earned day-in and day-out by the original writers. What did they do to earn this trust? They copped to not understanding everything. They were refreshing when it came to acknowledging their own enterprise. They were transparent in incredibly personal ways. They don't live for the affection of their peers. At their best they're transcendent, and at their worst they're forgivable.
Lure D. Lou (Charleston)
There is a term for people like Portnoy and his ilk: jock sniffers. Men who can't compete on the field but who have figured out a way to profit from the labors of others. If you have half-a-brain you can probably be 'into sports' without succumbing to this type frat boy posturing. Just another sign of the coming apocalypse.
Brad (New York)
Overall, I really enjoyed the article despite the authors bias being easily detectable throughout. As a daily New York Times reader, this is the first article I have felt the need to comment on because I fit the demographic being described in this article as a self proclaimed "stoolie" and a white male, 20 something with an upper middle class upbringing from a coastal state. I think Barstool's popularity stems from a lot of the points hit in the article- especially its authenticity and ability to relate to the current generation of "dudes". Barstool overall is hilarious, authentic, unfiltered, and not caught up with being politically correct like ESPN. Although I like it for its lack of political correctness, I am by no means a Trump supporter as was semi implied about Barstool fans in this article. At the end of a long day of medical school I simply do not like throwing on ESPN to see 4 females talking about football, a sport they never played or will play, along with obvious attempts to sprinkle politics into sports discussions such as the kneeling during the national anthem issue. I am not sexist or racist, but, as was mentioned in the article, I treat sports as my time of the day to relax and escape from the outside world, so I will find another sports outlet- like Barstool that will provide me with content that allows me to do just that. Thanks again for the good article though.
Frenchie (Nouveau)
Wow! And all of the guys in sports broadcasting, like Chris Berman or Bob Costas or... were nose tackles, hockey enforcers, TDF domestiques, point guards, marathoners, boxers. Good to know. 'I'm not sexist or racist...' '...ESPN to see 4 females talking about football, a sport they never played or will play, along with obvious attempts to sprinkle politics into sports discussions such as the kneeling during the national anthem...'
Kathleen Kourian (Bedford, MA)
As a female sports fan let me point out that most sports "analysts" never played the sport they talk about either.
Leave Capitalism Alone (Long Island NY)
You claim not to be sexist right after denigrating women who report on football. Wow! And as far as their inability to do their jobs because they've never played the game, I guess that means you're not studying to become an obstetrician in medical school.
Cap’n Dan Mathews (Northern California)
Do you see why more women graduate from college, including medical and law schools? Boys seemingly want to spend time listening to and reading sports drivel, with their baseball type caps worn backwards, to show themselves they are really cool.
Seth (D.C.)
You nailed it. Mr. Portnoy targets gen Y and Z young men, glamorizing being an immature slacker and degenerate gambler. Uncle Dave hauls in millions, while gen Y and Z females laugh at his loser "stoolies".
Jsbliv (San Diego)
Just what we need, another room full of frat boys yelling at us.
Jarrod Lipshy (Athens, GA)
It's sad that there simply aren't enough spaces for young, confident, well-off white males to sound off their take on the issues of the day. I mean, I can only assume that is the case since they seem to feel the need to invade everyone else's space with their unwanted opinions.
alphaross (Atlanta)
I am relatively new to the whole Barstool thing having only seen some of their recent Snapchat segments. It seems to me this has a very National Lampoon type vibe to it. NL had the benefit of NOT having so much social media around so that they could "make the sausage" and deliver a refined, if somewhat crude final product. I'm sure if some of the things they were working on back in the day made it into public light we probably would have been pretty appalled. Of course many of the NL alumni started what we know as Saturday Night Live today so it was good that they were able to reign in their talents. Barstool is putting everything out there for the whole world to see in this new unfiltered world. Perhaps they too over time they will come up with a product that is more for the masses. I guess we'll see.
Holden (San Francisco, CA)
I guess demeaning men by calling them "dudes" and "bros" is the last vestige of desperate journalists. ESPN has been unwatchable for years, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of clowns.
Joe B. (Center City)
Breitbart meets Howard Stern meets Sportscenter. So innovative. Sad
Cousin (Chicago)
The beauty of the internet is if you don't like it, don't click on it. I know a lot of people are now "voting with clicks" aka giving business to a website of their choice. The problem with this mentality is not taking time to fully understand the context of the website as a whole. Barstool makes it VERY easy to cherry pick quotes that will be used against themselves, which is how a majority of their controversies started. In order to understand Barstool, readers have to regularly consume the sites content. To quote the article "“They had something like 20 percent of their visitors coming back about 20 times a day." Thats really the key to understanding Barstool. By viewing the content that often readers develop a strong understanding of bloggers sense of humor and who they are as a person. This is why the site continues to grow, once you get what Barstool is about, you just get it. Their personalities are relatable and most readers feel like they could grab a casual beer with them. Consuming their content is like hanging out with your friends. And if you don't have friends that remind you of at least one Barstool personality then you will never understand their brand.
Patrick (USA)
Life is hard. Barstool makes people happy. You can check out for a few minutes every day and read/watch something that makes you laugh. It is wonderful. People go to comedy clubs for the same reason. If your feelings get hurt, don't read it.
Leave Capitalism Alone (Long Island NY)
All well and good as long as they don't enable and perpetuate misogynistic ideas that have no place in society.
Tatum (Allentown, PA)
I'm a 26-year-old, sports loving, liberal, feminist, woman. I follow Barstool and I like it. Call it a guilty pleasure, but I find them relatable. The men I know who follow them aren't rapey or creepy or sexist - they're good guys that throw back beers and watch games on Sunday afternoons. Yes, sometimes they cross the line, but what media outlet doesn't?
Christine (Boston)
Ditto
Leave Capitalism Alone (Long Island NY)
After too many beers and too much sports, they automatically become those rapey, creepy guys.
Kevin (San Jose)
viva la stool
Paul (Charleston)
Comedy and irreverence around sports is great--I have no problem with that. Bro culture I have a problem with. If these "bros" need to prove their masculinity and find an outlet for their energy/aggressiveness, go be a firefighter, EMT, fishing boat, go coach kids in need, just go. In other words, step up and be a man through strong, productive, and compassionate action rather than words, posturing, or frat like behavior.
Commoner (North America)
Go ahead. Keep on thumbing your noses at those of us who embrace services like Barstool. Keep on calling us terms like arrested development, lowest common denominator, rednecks, and keep on thinking you are better than we are. Keep on looking down your noses. Most of you wouldn't think of even talking to the common, blue collar, hard working man who make up the majority of Bros. Bros do not care. We embrace Barstool because they embrace us. If the desks stress you out, maybe you need a tissue.
Lynda (Gulfport, FL)
More than a few of us are related to Barstool fanboys (to our surprise!) so perhaps the younger brother whine I am hearing coming through some comments about the need for Barstool Stoolies or wannabe Stoolies to feel like misunderstood victims of a PC culture who have at last found their "happy" place is accurate. It is the conflict with the Barstool folks wanting to get rich from what they do to meet the needs of their audience(s) that presents a conflict yet to be resolved. As Maddow would say "Watch this space."
StellaS (NYC)
Who are the corporate sponsors of these guys?
Citizen (RI)
I'm really over the whole sports universe. It's entertainment. Stop treating it like it's life or death. And we get it - you're nothing more than 13 year-old boys trapped in the bodies of misogynist, ignorant and boorish louts who sit on couches and shout about how "you" won the "big game," or go to work all pissed off on Monday because "they" lost the "big game." Get a grip and a life.
Rich (<br/>)
ESPN mostly seems to be guys yelling at each other, which also seems to be CNN's way of filling time, too. Barstool just seems like a cruder version of this. I can't say that ESPN seems particularly liberal beyond having women join in the inane screaming.
Jane (New York)
Their offices are stressing me out. It's like my mom's "spare room."
Sam I Am (Windsor, CT)
The problem with ESPN is that it isn't actually sports journalism any more. It's just marketing and promotional content from their business partners in professional and major college sports. So-called opinion content is either parroting talking points or fact-free projection. As someone who grew up with ESPN, it's a problem when I can tell you that I find it unwatchable. I walk out of bars and barber shops that force it on clientele. If and when ESPN returns to journalism from promotion, their audience will return. In the meantime, if I want to find out who won a game I can find out much faster on my iphone than by watching SportsCenter.
me (US)
I'm kind of sick of sports, but at least these guys aren't phonies, right? What you see is what you get...
Chris (Manhattan)
Barstool is a simply a brand that is diseased. As Barstool grows and becomes more mainstream, largely driven by PMT (I have heard rumors they are doing more like 1.3-1.7M downloads depending on the guest, rather than 1M reported here. You can also ballpark their CPM.), the shackles of misogynistic and hateful rhetoric will only become more pronounced as mainstream ready Stool personalities are denied opportunity. The cancellation of BVT is only the most public shortfall. It should also be noted that a significant hurdle for BVT was Dave's insistence on keeping Barstool in the name. The show was originally going to air without explicit branding. Barstool can continue to succeed outside of mainstream success. They can thrive on satellite, host and promote amateur boxing, and extend the brand to mediums friendly to sophomoric humor. But the misogynistic comments of Portnoy, the retrograde and sophomoric humor, and the constant doubling down on “anti-PC” aggressively unempathetic content, most of which is untouched in the article, will always weigh down the talent with the ability to move on. Barstool needs to understand hypocrisy among detractors is not a defense of reprehensible content. Finally, barstool personalities understand the internet. They know who their fans are and what sets them off. “We can’t control a few bad apples” is disingenuous. Great article Kang.
Sal D'Agostino (Hoboken)
Even without these guys, ESPN already has too many shows featuring 'informal' gatherings of sport-shirt clad guys with snarky attitudes making fun of athletes. I don't need any of them. I don't know who at ESPN made the connection between sports and comedy (or sports and popular music, for that matter) but I'd rather just see highlights without much commentary and discussions featuring experts rather than fake slackers. If this is what a sports fan is then I guess my friends and I aren't real sports fans.
TLibby (Colorado)
I just love it whenever "aggressive" or "toxic" masculinity is mentioned. You really know you're in for some non-sexist evenhanded reporting. (give me peace...)
MEM (Los Angeles )
The lowest common denominator keeps getting lower. Most adolescent boys eventually outgrow bathroom humor and rude, aggressive behavior. Usually around the time they're done with puberty. But then there are those who persist well into what used to be considered adulthood. "Stoolies" is an apt nickname for this group.
Baseball Fan (Framingham)
Women are sports fans, too. We play sports. We watch sports. We buy lots of sport merchandise. We sign our kids up for sports. A lot of us are really over the rape culture endorsement, the casual racism, the fat jokes and we will not take our clicks and our money to straight white rapey bro fests. I don't want my son learning that this is a normal part of being a Massachusetts sports fan. The cheating and the poor sportsmanship is bad enough in New England. It has nothing to do with "political correctness" and everything to do with wanting to live in a society of decent human beings.
D. Nguyen (Los Angeles)
I am a Massachusetts sports fan. A woman. And a former freelance employee of the Sports Broadcast world and have worked for and at every Sports Team and Venue in New England. I agree with Baseball Fan. This is gross. Barstool is gross. I am so tired of "white rapey bros" and just irritated overall. Here's the thing Portney, you're not the man we don't fully understand. We get you. We know who you are and what you represent. Get over yourself.
Alexandra (Austin)
"...and after a lengthy, unnecessary NY Times feature, no one ever heard from Barstool again, and they were happy."
JGuz (Tx)
This article is really depressing. I was depressed when ESPN signed with these guys to begin with but glad that they pulled the plug. I am not a fan of Sam Ponder but they had no right to after her, or any woman, like that. It makes me wonder about these guys wives and girlfriends and their character if they are still the folks profiled.
Lynda (Gulfport, FL)
Where in the article did you read that they have wives and girlfriends?
Matthew (New York)
I am one of the liberal-leaning, coastal elite bros that this piece mentions. The inherent problems with Barstool's language and general attitude toward women (and plenty of other groups) are not lost on me. It's also impossible to miss the similarity in approach between Trump and Barstool -- if you come at us, we come back even harder. Despite the atrocity that is the Trump presidency, the difference with Barstool is that the stakes are much lower, I'd argue. And someone like me, right or wrong, is willing to overlook the ugliness for something I enjoy and relate to, even if some of the content and implications are indefensible.
Al in Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh, PA)
As one who enjoys the music of Richard Wagner, I can sympathize with your final sentence. Nevertheless, I believe that the "stakes" dealing with sexism, racism, xenophobia, and violence are much higher here than you acknowledge.
NC-Cynic (Charlotte, NC)
How very noble of you... Not. Being willing to overlook misogyny, rampant arrogance, and pure unalderated trash to get indefensible content because you can relate to it. You think the stakes are much lower, but they're not, because you're complicit in continuing a macho, violent stereotype that all too frequently ends up on the news for suicide by mass murder. Your mother must be very proud... Not.
G2K (Virginia)
If you only saw three women in the office over your time there (Erika Nadine, Asa Akira, and the security guard) who is the women in the last photo? Pretty sure she isn’t the security guard.
DaveInNewYork (Albany, NY)
The hypothesis that ESPN's rating are down because of some vague notion of a 'move to the left' is nonsense. For years now ESPN has been losing sight of the stories it is supposed to be reporting on. Their broadcast content is determined more by what people are clicking on at ESPN's web site than by what is happening in the world of sports. They are not getting the story, they are trying to create a narrative for their viewers based on what people click on at their web site. These are different groups of customers with fundamentally different needs. I for one am more likely to watch ESPN now that they have moved away from their white-male-centric universe. Don't forget: it's ESPN, not SEPN. Don't set your expectations too high.
Hugh MacDonald (Los Angeles)
Hi, Dave, i think you're right. ESPN suffers also from CNN syndrome: instead of going live to reporters in the field, we get constant "panels" of reporters or sports analysts yakking it up around a table or on a split-screen instead of showing us what is going on. And almost always with a supposed sense of humor. Can't watch Sunday NFL pregame shows any more.
JBeau (Quincy,Ma)
I think what helped Dave as well is he started right at the boom of Boston Sports winning. All 4 teams have won a title and the Patriots have been a boon with accusations of cheating and all the winning they have done.
SportsFan2017 (Boston)
I've often felt recently that the "sports-bro" culture Barstool Sports appeals to is simply evidence of the pervasive and unabashed "bro" monoculture that exists due to United States colleges' arrested development of young men, regardless of whether a conservative area or a liberal area. It really seems that the only dividing factor with regards to how these "bros" politically vote is the economic prospect of where they are living.
Lou Redwood (Boston)
Finally seeing the work of El Pres paying off in dividends. In a world of over-reaction and political correctness taken to extreme, the idea that anything is funny and nothing should be off limits is a breathe of fresh air. Barstool is about not taking yourself or life too seriously all the time, and the detractors of Barstool clearly do not understand the message.
Dex (San Francisco)
Translated "We miss telling jokes demeaning gays, non-whtie races and women, and geting away with it. Why can't we take advantage of our power dynamic anymore!?"
Joe B. (Center City)
Rape jokes are sooooo funny.
GreginNJ (NJ)
Dex for the win!
Coffee Bean (Java)
Sports bars are like the family dinner table, the two topics not discussed are religion and politics. GQ magazine equating Colin Kaepernick to 'Citizen of the Year' is akin to The DNC awarding Bernie Sanders a Participation Trophy.
Fletcher (Chicagoland)
I don't know where you grew up. But sports bars are NOT like the family dinner table.
Coffee Bean (Java)
That's NOT what I was suggesting, merely an analogy. Do you discuss religion and politics at the family dinner table?
Kyle (Lawrence, KS)
I am not into much of anything from Barstool, outside of Pardon My Take. The show is hilarious and generally progressive if anything (or taking extreme right wing positions ironically), and it's sad to see it get lumped in with everything else on the site. I followed PFT Commenter there from his previous outlets, and generally just ignore the rest of the site outside of his MMBM column and PMT.