‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Season 1, Episode 6: What’s Up With Sarek?

Oct 22, 2017 · 32 comments
Michael (Indiana)
Have you never watched any Star Trek before? The Vulcans have been arrogant and condescending throughout every series.
Jon CK (United States)
Sopan Deb you are so wrong. Please view the episodes again. You are incorrect. 1. Vulcans needlessly xenophobic. No not just xenophobic but cruel, evil, sexist and male-dominated society. Think of them as neo-nazis and alt-righters. Clearly, their society isn't superior because an orphaned human female can achieve entry into their supposedly superior society. 2. Sarek came not just because he sensed her despair. What happened was Burnham was injured prior to being placed in her cell, she was nearly killed. That's what happens when you have an invasive mindmeld. 3. Lorca hasn't been sent everywhere he's gone and when he's been sent he really wasn't prepared to go. He lied about his readiness because of he, Burnham and Tyler know that they are at war. Also, his rescue was done by his 1st officer who would have been punished if he had been a female. Corvan II & The Glenn were following Starfleet orders. They did not document and share their actions with Starfleet. 4. Cornwell is so concerned with Lorca's success and her own failures that she wants to derail his efforts. How dare he use Burnham regardless of his authority to do so. Clearly if you use your authority to act in a way that would embarrass Starfleet then you are clearly unhinged regardless of your successes. Burnham the traitor is now working successfully on the most successful experimental starship in the Federation means that the authorities are and were horribly misguided.
Tedsams (Fort Lauderdale)
This review is way too Trekkie oriented. I have enjoyed the show since it's third episode without getting too hung up on the Trek world details ( is this a prequel to the 60s show or the new movies? The new movies make more sense.) If I pine for the older Treks, I have The Orville. People really do take things too seriously. This is a good show, which may be killed off by the very people it is trying to please. To paraphrase a former Captain: Get a life people!
Ann (Singapore)
I love this series and I look forward to the episodes each week. It has been engaging and the story is building week by week. To my dismay, the Reviewer focused on more negatives each week. I hope the unbalanced review does not turn off viewers and cause this series to be cancelled.
Jean louis LONNE (<br/>)
I'm a life long Star Trek fan. The writing is poor, very poor. The acting seems lame, but maybe its the writers' fault. The only relation with the original Star Trek here is the name and props. Further, the vilains are more notable than the crew, maybe the series should be called Klingon. Psychological interplay attempt to replace good story lines. Gene Roddenberry must be turning in his grave!!
liberalnlovinit (United States)
BUT....but.... Admiral Cornwell's guards weren't wearing Red Shirts!!!
Jon CK (United States)
They weren't wearing Red Shirts because it was so as not to antagonize the Klingons. They weren't expected. It was a diplomatic mission.
Deb McManus (Aurora, IL)
I found the whole Sarek thing bewildering, but the thing that most disturbed me was Lorca deliberately setting Cornwall up by sending her to the Klingons, and then refusing to go to her aid Very shady. For the most part, I am enjoying Discovery, at least now that I'm over feeling mad that they killed off an amazing Asian woman captain and replaced her with a white guy.
liberalnlovinit (United States)
Yes, Lorca is definitely challenged in many ways. For one thing, he has classic PTSD. And how many admirals has Kirk ever slept with, his propensity notwithstanding? Mental health remains an issue, until the late third season TOS episode, "Whom Gods Destroy." So the PTSD doesn't surprise me.
Jon CK (United States)
Everyone gives Lorca too much credit. Starfleet policy set Cornwall, the sexual harasser (his superior) up to either be killed or to become like Tyler WOKE to the fact that the Klingons can't be trusted and we're at war. This was the best episode ever (until the next episode)
Jon CK (United States)
Not PTSD. Lorca doesn't go postal until his 2nd scar, the triangle, is touched by the sexual harassing superior Cornwall. Lorca is prepared for the war in which the Federation is already engaged. Everyone who plays by the rules will killed or captured and then tortured.
Sam (Falls Church, VA)
Forcing Sarek to choose between Michael and Spock was definitely an analogy to NBC executives forcing Gene Roddenberry to choose between his original Number One (Majel Barrett) and Spock ("the guy with the ears").
Jon CK (United States)
I have to disagree though that's really reaching back. Choosing between your son or your daughter highlights the patriarchal nature of a male dominated sexist society when you choose your son or your daughter. You can say as he does that he's choosing his own blood over when the real reason is you expect the male to be better than the female.
c (h)
i'm not paying extra for a major network that was always free, so i guess i won't be watching.
liberalnlovinit (United States)
I don't think that you will have to wait too long. Discovery will eventually show up on broadcast CBS. How do I know? There are commercial breaks (currently 3-5 second of blank air) built into the episodes.
Michael (Indiana)
Not sure how that proves anything. CBS All Access has ad breaks on the cheaper version, and the show also commercials when it airs in Canada.
YaddaYaddaYadda (Astral Plane)
Interesting article but these are hardly the most disturbing or egregious canon violations in Discovery or even in this particular episode. I cancelled CBS All-Access. And it feels like a weight off my shoulders.
Michael (Indiana)
How did you get through all of the previous Star Trek's with all of their canon violations?
Doug (California)
I hope that the NY Times reviews of Discovery are not going to focus on how Discovery may or may not be violating the canon. That is going to be a dead end. I'm a long time Star Trek fan and I am enjoying the directions that Discovery is taking Star Trek. I agree that too much was shoe-horned into this episode. Battlestar Galactica was successful because it didn't have to touch base with every character in every episode. Discovery needs more focus and depth in it's storytelling. Many series needs to find its way in the first ten episodes. I feel like that is what we are seeing here. I am hopeful in what I am seeing so far. I hope that Discovery keeps working with issues like xenophobia, multiculturalism, PTSD and real-world war related issues. I'm liking Michael Burnham, Captain Lorca -- and most of the cast. And those special effects -- yes, more! I could do with a little less of the Klingons. They have never worked well in any series I have seen. Too much generic bad guy acting.
YaddaYaddaYadda (Astral Plane)
To date the reviews haven't bothered to mention with any degree of focus the scores of canon violations. For one article to discuss this very real and off-putting - many would say show ruining - problem is utterly legitimate and long overdue.
Jon CK (United States)
I agree with GREAT SHOW notion but the Klingons who will be allies are there to demonstrate the failure of the Starfleet current policies and procedures which will create a stronger and more prepared leadership. The Klingons kill the societies who try to be either neutral or try to negotiate between the two factions. First Starfleet but next the Vulcans. Nothing brings unity more than division that result in the destruction of the extremists. Discovery's engines will be dropped in the future because of the side effects that affect the crew.
Larry (<br/>)
While viewing the episode, did anyone else experience pixilation with green blocks then a several-second loop back in the scene with the characters repeating what had just been said? I had assumed that this was deliberate, referencing some problem beginning to manifest from using the spore drive and foreshadowing next week's episode rather than an IRL problem with our streaming the episode. But I've seen no comment about this in any of the online reviews of the episode. I *could* go back and replay the episode and look at the elapsed time to check. Nah.
Larry (SF)
I found a thread on Reddit. What we saw is a streaming problem that might be CBS All Access problem. So, not a foreshadowing of events in next week's episode.
Mike M. (Lewiston, ME.)
The only “mess” is this review that misunderstands Star Trek canon. Thrpughout the TOS series, its six movies, several episodes of TNG and the series ‘Enterprise’ Vulcans are portrayed not as logic bots but as a highly nuanced race with deep emotions, including xenophobia, which logic does not keep in check at all times. So, it is keeping with canon that Sarak would make a choice to choose blood (Spock) over an adopted Earth daughter. Aside from that it may be completely understandable that Sarak may have thought Burnham may not be the perfect fit living long-term in an all-Vulcan space ship. One other thing that Mr. Deb missed in this episode - the demons in Captain Lorca. Anyone woth the least bit of understanding about PSTD in a soldier might think it is credible for Lorca to be slightly unhinged. Moreover, I do not buy Mr. Deb’s notion that just because Lorca was successful in a handful of missions that he is psychologically fit for duty. That notion is Star Trek - and lazy screenwriting - tripe. Psychologically traumatized people take a long time, if ever to recover. During that recovery time these individuals can appear “normal,” but we know in the real world of corporate plutocrats and mass murderers that assumption is a bit challenged.
ellen (philadelphia)
Did Lorca not race off to rescue The Admiral b/c she was about to take away his ship or because the other higher ups would say two consecutive unplanned rescues is too much? Probably the former.
Jon CK (United States)
Ellen: Probably but Cornwall, his superior who sexually assaulted her subordinate and then used her inappropriate position to pierce his mental health status would want Lorca to await Starfleet approval before taking any action. Lorca knows that that policy is moronic and definitely destructive and deadly. She wants him returned to duty once he learns to be less impulsive. What no one but Burnham and Tyler knows is that he's not impulsive. Lorca is at war to defeat an enemy that his superiors and the Vulcan's are unprepared to face.
Hamish Covell (Sydney)
I think with 'The new Paul Stamets' what has happened is not the writers trying to make him seem over-the-top happy but rather they are eluding to something which has happened to him after using himself in the Spore Drive. When interpreted in that way it seems far less odd, and opens up new questions directly linked to what happened at the very end of Episode 5.
Lynn (Philadelphia)
That was exactly my interpretation, as well.
Doug (California)
Yes, agreed. And I think that the implication is that the mushrooms involved might have some psychedelic qualities.
Bondosan (Crab Key)
Y'know, in addition to many other issues about this incarnation of Trek, add this: In the prior shows, the ships were places that you wouldn't have minded spending a few years. They were technological marvels, but they also felt comfortable with a strong sense of community. The new ship feels cold, harsh, and unpleasant. Beam me back to the Enterprise, Scotty.
Dillan Gandhi (London)
It's a Crossfield ship, not a Constitution ship. The crew are scientists and military, not humanitarians and peacekeepers.
Jon CK (United States)
Think of it as a submarine. It's a ship at war not at exploration. The engine will never be used in the future because more than likely it has side effects. I agree with Dillan