New York Today: DACA and New Yorkers

Sep 06, 2017 · 11 comments
yllasyram (Brooklyn)
regarding the mayor: can someone tell him he's beginning to sound like Trump? whiny, self pitying and self aggrandizing... come on, Bill, wake up, grow up
Peter (Germany)
This action is so sick I can't find words for it. Apparently stupidity can be used as a weapon against people. Disgusting for a country of the Western world.
V (Portland OR)
What is wrong with the aspect of having Congress draft this legislation ?
Would this ever get done.
What is the risk for these kids, on one side we have invested in them, and they have potential to be model citizens, and there is a flip side that we have to be aware of chain migration.
Would we skewing our immigration towards a region in the world and want our country to have equal representation from all parts of the world.
Theoretically, this seems to be a good time to get a legislation in place, having this gray area is not sustainable
Andy (Burlington VT)
DACA as it sat was setting up a group of people as less than. Those people who fled crap circumstances can come here and be threatened becayse our gutless,feckless lawmakers live in loafers because they can't tie their own shoes. It is time for the morons in Washington to hold open the door and end the second class citizenship by declassifying people as dreamers and call them US citizens. If we need to penalize regiems, who fail their people,do it with sanctions against companies who allow workers to be demeaned, fine the offenders use embargos or taxes. But DACA as it is now is weak less than citizenship. If the loafers in Congress cant build a bridge to citizenshipit is time for voters to put the boots to them.
Nyalman (New York)
You seem to have a big issue with loafers. They are fine shoes.
WorkingGuy (NYC, NY)
DACA will get done, it is a bargaining chip. What will Dems trade votes on?
DAPA is the problem: Once DACA is done, and the children get "lawful green card status" under DAPA the parents can apply to stay in the USA legally. http://iamerica.org/do-i-qualify-for-dap This is de facto "chain immigration" and REWARDS the illegal immigrants who brought their children. Making the case for the illegal immigrants was too tough, getting them in by using the more sympathetic “children's” (20's & 30's) cause works.
This is a variation on the “anchor baby” theme.
DACA should NEVER be a gateway to reward illegal immigrants under DAPA. Period.
Part of DACA should include paying back taxes and penalties before getting status. Period.
44 created a morass in governing by fiat; not allowing law to be our foundation, but his “better judgement.” This is the mess we have to clean up. POTUS is ending the twilight zone created by 44 and charging Congress with making a law-forged by a representative democracy-that is constitutionally sound. It is jarring to have your false hope exposed for what it was, a 44 illusion, by POTUS, but the promise of REAL change by law is at hand.
44 got a lot of money & influence from California (20% of all 2012 contributions: https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/geog.php?cycle=2012&id=n00009638 ) and the vast majority of DACA /DAPA beneficiaries stoke the Cali economy ( https://nyti.ms/2xN3tIu ). Let us have a law that is good for the WHOLE country and not just for Cali.
Freddie (New York NY)
Nothing to sing about with any humor in the DACA situation, IMHO.
But there's a standout Mayor Bill de Blasio “In the News” item - “announcing his surprise that New Yorkers had not held a parade celebrating all he has accomplished.”

Tune of DON’T RAIN ON MY PARADE

Get ready, now, New York, to get the votes out
Who cares if there’s some rain, just get your coats out
Don’t point out what he’s lacked to rein in Bill’s parade

Don't say it’s just a way to get attention
He can’t go on and rant without dissension
Don't emphasize that fact to rein in Bill’s parade.

He got those boats out
For your commute.
So get those floats out
And golly gee, pals - Get the batons twirling
See, pals - Banners need unfurling

(jump to big finish)
Don’t tell us his four years are overrated
That he deserves your cheers can’t be debated
Nobody, no nobody
Is gonna rein in Bill’s parade!!!!
George S (New York, NY)
"unleashed their tears, fears and chants"...yawn, once again instead of adult discussion and actual legislative proposals for Congress to legally fix the issue in question in the only manner consistent with the constitution, we get the usual childish emotionalism on display. No wonder so little progress gets made.
N.Smith (New York City)
If the plan to cancel DACA in any way resembles the G.O.P. plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act -- it will take longer than six months.
As for all those political promises, don't forget we have an election coming up. Enough said.
Nyalman (New York)
Cancelling DACA is via an executive order (which implemented DACA originally) and requires no action by Congress (a repeal of the ACA required congressional approvals). Glad to provide you the civics lesson!!
N.Smith (New York City)
@Nyalman
Thank you. But the patronizing tone is not necessary, and neither is a civic lesson -- because I actually know how to read.
Try again.