What does Der Trumpf think about The Great Federal Land Give-Away, the greatest in history, when the government GAVE millions of acres to the railroad barrons? Anyone asked him about that????
There is far too little public land in this country. At least half of the land should be set aside for the American people to use for recreation and for the sake of nature. And I would not include ATVs in the category if recreation since they are a means a destroying nature, rather than enjoying it.
People need natural spaces in order to live complete and healthy lives. Nature needs space in order to survive. Too many species are going extinct due to commercial exploitation and over development. Our goal should be to set aside half of our country as parks, forests, and monuments, whether at the local, state, or federal level.
People need natural spaces in order to live complete and healthy lives. Nature needs space in order to survive. Too many species are going extinct due to commercial exploitation and over development. Our goal should be to set aside half of our country as parks, forests, and monuments, whether at the local, state, or federal level.
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Mr Zinke, save these places. They are the property of all of the people of the United States, especially the real ancestral owners, the local native Americans.
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Blanding is, well, pretty bland, but if you're camping in the area, you might visit the local grocery store and check out the local museum, which is chock full of Pueblo artifacts and puts the area into context.
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The Adirondack Park - non-federal, but state lands - comprise over 17% of the land area of New York State. And that is just one park out of many in the Empire State. Just because the lands are not administered by the Federal Government - which never owned the land, ever - doesn't mean that the people of New York don't want them to be preserved. It was actually much harder and much more costly to assemble the lands of that park.
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Have progressives noticed that whenever Democrat presidents tend to ONLY add these preserved spaces as they prepare to move out of the White House? I always thought that this was hysterical. Do it before the elections and get credit - IF it is a good idea.
The people of the country have a perfect right to reconsider ALL of these politically handy designations. Now that EVERY state has land that it supervises, I daresay that we cut back the monuments and reserves back to maybe twenty. Let the STATES control the lands within their boundaries.
This will keep the whacked-out D.C. bureaucrats from denying Americans like the Scouts access to areas they share ownership of. Having armed federales moving around out in empty spaces seems like a waste since those states have police and troopers who live nearby, too.
The people of the country have a perfect right to reconsider ALL of these politically handy designations. Now that EVERY state has land that it supervises, I daresay that we cut back the monuments and reserves back to maybe twenty. Let the STATES control the lands within their boundaries.
This will keep the whacked-out D.C. bureaucrats from denying Americans like the Scouts access to areas they share ownership of. Having armed federales moving around out in empty spaces seems like a waste since those states have police and troopers who live nearby, too.
Unfortunately, the states do not do a good job in managing our public lands. Just look at the manner ORVs tear up the landscape in state parks particularly in Utah's forests and also on federal public lands. Wilderness and its wildlife needs protection from mining, fracking, clear-cutting, roads. National Parks, Refuges, Monuments draw tourists and enrich the local economy with hotels, restaurants, guides, pack animals.
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I don't think that the issue should be political. Either we want to conserve natural landscape heritage or we want to destroy it. This is the choice and it has nothing to do with so-called "right" or "left."
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The insistence on preserving priceless lands against evil capitalists seems holier than thou to me. 47% of the West is federally owned. 4% of the East. Holier than thou easterners are hypocrites..
The archaeological gem of Arizona that I most cherish is the miles and miles of canals dug by the prehistoric Hohokam. They have been transformed to serve the economic needs of water supply and power. At the same time, there are paths along the canals and stairways down to the water. They are Phoenix's recreational hub for walkers, joggers, and bikers, And, they are the swimming center of the universe for my friend Tillie. The canals must be some kind of archaeological travesty. But they're a recreational jewel.
As for our state parks, the second most popular is Slide Rock, located among the geological miracle of Sedona's Red Rock. It is used by teenagers to jump from the rocks into a pool below. They sculpted a common water park out of otherwise holy lands and we love it.
The recreational needs of locals cannot be ignored. As for evil miners and drillers, they have been granted lots of concessions in the east for economic reasons. They cause earthquakes and oil spills almost at will. Out West, we're told all our land is holy.
I love national parks and have visited more than my share. But there's a balance of interests that must be respected. 43% to 4% is not a balance. And Easterners preaching proper land use should do as they say.
The archaeological gem of Arizona that I most cherish is the miles and miles of canals dug by the prehistoric Hohokam. They have been transformed to serve the economic needs of water supply and power. At the same time, there are paths along the canals and stairways down to the water. They are Phoenix's recreational hub for walkers, joggers, and bikers, And, they are the swimming center of the universe for my friend Tillie. The canals must be some kind of archaeological travesty. But they're a recreational jewel.
As for our state parks, the second most popular is Slide Rock, located among the geological miracle of Sedona's Red Rock. It is used by teenagers to jump from the rocks into a pool below. They sculpted a common water park out of otherwise holy lands and we love it.
The recreational needs of locals cannot be ignored. As for evil miners and drillers, they have been granted lots of concessions in the east for economic reasons. They cause earthquakes and oil spills almost at will. Out West, we're told all our land is holy.
I love national parks and have visited more than my share. But there's a balance of interests that must be respected. 43% to 4% is not a balance. And Easterners preaching proper land use should do as they say.
I live next door in Colorado and we have tens of thousands of old mines. They are the vestige of allowing states to do as they please and then walk away from the damage. Some people may view it as the freedom to fail, but what it really comes down to is privatizing gains and socializing losses. It's still going on in the coal sector where the companies were allowed to self bond for the clean up then went bankrupt and weaseled out. I know this is how things have been done for hundreds of years, but how about we change philosophies and err on the side of not making a mess that someone else will have to clean up later?
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The West may be holier than the East. Having lived in both places, I found it to be like comparing the Mount Everest Region in Nepal to the Adirondacks. Or Squaw Valley skiiing with something in Vemont (ice, clouds, blizzards, anyone?)
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No, not hypocrites in the East. You regressives are adept at making false comparisons. You might want to visit "the East" someday. The Northeast is a vast hardwood forest, from the Ohio valley to the coast. The south east, once you're out of the mountains, is a vast swamp. Not much spectacular there.
This is a place entirely worthy of preservation. Not only does it contain direct links to the history of Native citizens, but it is sacred space worthy of our (by which I mean the non-native culture's) respect. Preserving history and culture, and respecting the sanctity of natural space works for both Native culture and ours. Even here in New Mexico, sites of the same vintage on BLM land as those in Bears Ears have been degraded in the last 20 years--the time in which I have visited them. The author mentions that even the thin crust on the sand of the desert protects its life against erosion and desertification (killing off biological life). This is a fragile place in more ways than one.
The quiet, the space, and the night skies that are still dark enough to see the Milky Way are ever-more rare commodities in our world. The use to which this land can be put for heritage preservation is critical.
The quiet, the space, and the night skies that are still dark enough to see the Milky Way are ever-more rare commodities in our world. The use to which this land can be put for heritage preservation is critical.
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The real villains in this piece are the so-called "ATV enthusiasts". I have seen them destroy desert areas from Palm Springs to Utah - all to ride their little toy vehicles at speed in the rough. Their associations and the ATV manufacturers (mainly Japanese companies who have no interest in our lands) put pressure on politicians who are always too willing to cave for a little extra money and votes. And when one meets the "ATV enthusiasts", one realizes immediately why they prefer riding their ATVs and dirt bikes over pristine desert to preserving nature and beauty - they can't understand the first and can't appreciate the second.
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How can the government "grab" something it already owns? Sure, it can be argued that we "grabbed" it from Mexico, but putting that aside, it has been federally owned land ever since. The State of Utah (which, don't forget was CREATED BY the Federal Government), has never owned it.
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Happy retiree, you are so right! The fact that The state of Utah NEVER owned the land that is Bears Ears needs to be repeated and repeated.
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The President can't make changes to a National Monument without a legal challenge. Moreover you'd have to argue each adjustment to National Monument status individually. The only way to remove the designation without new legislation in Congress is to prove the changes don't conflict with the Monument's original mandate as described when first created. The burden of proof therefore falls on the President. Bears Ears was created to protect cultural artifacts. Can you prove the President is not destroying cultural artifacts by rescinding any portion of the Bears Ears National Monument? Same story applies to Grand Staircase-Escalante.
The argument cuts against conservative legal reasoning anyway. You're asking conservative judges to expand executive authority with a liberal interpretation of the Antiquities Act. The President is granted the authority to create, not rescind. The 1906 position was later reaffirmed by the Interior Department in 1976. The law is against the President unless he can legally undermine the mandate. The whole effort will take years to adjudicate. Trump will likely be out of office before any decision is reached. Even if he wins, the land still doesn't belong to the states as a National Monument is by definition federal land in the first place. The land would revert to BLM status.
The crusade against public lands is yet another fool's errand from a very foolish man. Look busy; do little. That's the folly of the President's course.
The argument cuts against conservative legal reasoning anyway. You're asking conservative judges to expand executive authority with a liberal interpretation of the Antiquities Act. The President is granted the authority to create, not rescind. The 1906 position was later reaffirmed by the Interior Department in 1976. The law is against the President unless he can legally undermine the mandate. The whole effort will take years to adjudicate. Trump will likely be out of office before any decision is reached. Even if he wins, the land still doesn't belong to the states as a National Monument is by definition federal land in the first place. The land would revert to BLM status.
The crusade against public lands is yet another fool's errand from a very foolish man. Look busy; do little. That's the folly of the President's course.
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It is appalling to me that the fate of a place like this is -- for the moment at least -- in the hands of an ignoramus like Trump and a a vicious toady like Zinke. Organizations like the Southern Utah Wilderness Association (SUWA), Earth Justice, Friends of Cedar Mesa, and Dine Bikeyah are working 24-7 to protect the area from Republican cowboys like Phil Lyman and Rob Bishop (and Utah's entire Congressional delegation and governor) and preserve it for all Americans. These organizations deserve our financial support. Lawsuits are likely pending.
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If President Obama did it, Trump will reverse it. It's that simple.
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Mr. Lyman, the county commissioner in Blanding, sounds a bit like he might be related to the Bundy family of Nevada! The same spirit of a tail trying to wag the dog. These special places public lands are one of the things that has already made America great, Mr. Trump!
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Clearly Trump's definition of the word "grab" differs from that of normal people (think woman's VJJ).
Obama did not grab this land - he preserved it. Why would they object to designating this land for preservation? BC they believe in pure capitalism - where only those with the capital should be allowed access. Got news for the poor suckers who think this includes them - you were duped. And now we all live with the consequences. Truly SAD.
Obama did not grab this land - he preserved it. Why would they object to designating this land for preservation? BC they believe in pure capitalism - where only those with the capital should be allowed access. Got news for the poor suckers who think this includes them - you were duped. And now we all live with the consequences. Truly SAD.
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When federal authorities decide that they must control all access to an area that has nothing to do with national defense, your ears should prick up, because the states can decide access issues to these huge, empty spaces.
Local decision always work better than decisions reached in Kremlins or ivory towers.
I have lived long enough to wonder why resources must be denied development and people denied the chance to either build homes or rent rooms in these beautiful places simply because of power-grabbing control freaks.
Local decision always work better than decisions reached in Kremlins or ivory towers.
I have lived long enough to wonder why resources must be denied development and people denied the chance to either build homes or rent rooms in these beautiful places simply because of power-grabbing control freaks.
"Why would they object to designating this land for preservation? ". You must not know that anything government does is bad.
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blanding is the center of the artifacts thieves - which is one reason the dont want the monumnet. driving into blanding from the south: hugh sign on a house: NO MONUMENT. in bluff all many homes have welcome to bears ears monument.
in bluff twin rocks cafe is very good and in blanding Hunts Trading Post a must - great coffee.
in bluff twin rocks cafe is very good and in blanding Hunts Trading Post a must - great coffee.
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I love Bluff. I miss the swinging bridge. I concur about the grave robbers. Some want perpetual access to the land to rob more artifacts.
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I am sure the author felt justified in writing in detail about some of the remarkable sites and locations of the Bear's Ears in hopes of protecting this land. It is easy to fault unscrupulous locals who have failed to respect the legacy of the ancestral Puebloans. But, this article invites another type of visitor - also with no appreciation of the cultural legacy of the ancestral Puebloans --who can do equal or worse damage: the American tourist.
I've been exploring and visiting the Bear's Ears area for over twenty years. Knowing my interest in Native American history and culture, a family friend who was a prominent leader in Bluff, gave me very vague directions to some of the most pristine sites in the area in the early 1990s. He basically pointed out a canyon and said, "You might find something interesting there." He explained the need to protect these sites, but also described that one needed to earn the right to visit a sacred site. He also admonished me that I was to keep what I found secret and never publish locations.
Over the years, the impact by well-intentioned and curious visitors has been dramatic. Cairns mark the way to sites that were once secret. Pottery shards that littered sites have disappeared- taken by tourists.
The beauty of the Bear's Ears is that there isn't a "visitors center" with a concession stand. Others have given up the secrets of this land on the internet and in print, I am disappointed that Times would join that effort.
I've been exploring and visiting the Bear's Ears area for over twenty years. Knowing my interest in Native American history and culture, a family friend who was a prominent leader in Bluff, gave me very vague directions to some of the most pristine sites in the area in the early 1990s. He basically pointed out a canyon and said, "You might find something interesting there." He explained the need to protect these sites, but also described that one needed to earn the right to visit a sacred site. He also admonished me that I was to keep what I found secret and never publish locations.
Over the years, the impact by well-intentioned and curious visitors has been dramatic. Cairns mark the way to sites that were once secret. Pottery shards that littered sites have disappeared- taken by tourists.
The beauty of the Bear's Ears is that there isn't a "visitors center" with a concession stand. Others have given up the secrets of this land on the internet and in print, I am disappointed that Times would join that effort.
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Will it be more beautiful to you with oil rigs, fracking, mining and huge roads for tractor trailors? I am not sure what your point it - it's nice when quiet natural places are left that way, and the way to ensure that is by preserving this land as a national monument. A visitor center is a small price to pay for endless untouchable wilderness for humans and animals.
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Yes, the locals like to keep the graves they rob secret so it their resource. Monument status will bring tourists and the tourist will be restricted to certain areas and other areas will be off limits. Some people do respect the area many others in area have racists attitudes towards the local Native Americans would happily steal or destroy anything connected to the indigenous people.
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Since there is a serious question whether a president can revoke the national monument designation of a previous president, the only clearly legal way to revise President Obama's designation is by act of Congress. I suggest that Congress make reasonable adjustments to the boundaries of the monument to accommodate the more serious local concerns (i.e., not including the "you stole it from us" concern), and designate the rest of it as a national park. A national park benefits from stronger protections than a national monument, and for bonus points, it's clear that a president can't revoke a national park designation.
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I’m a native Utahan and you have NO IDEA what you are saying!
“accommodate the more serious local concerns...’you stole it from us concerns’?”
My favorite National Park was Canyonlands because it is completely inaccessible by anyway except to hike it. You must climb over steep ridges, cliffs, and drop-offs. We had quiet for a week. No ATVs, no humongous RVs, no monster tire trucks. You have to pack your own water in because this IS high desert (5,000 ft tables) and you carry everything on your back. There are no motels or McDonalds. You pack your bedroll, food, cooking utensils and a small butane lamp to heat your food..NO campfires allowed.
The local yahoos want to turn Utah into their own track for racing Hummers and other large 4W drives. They tear up the soil, destroy a fine vegetation that has taken thousands of years to grow, so the Park Rangers designate a trail only wide enough for one person to walk. The cave paintings are surreal and we leave them alone for future generations.
“Take only photos, leave only footprints.”
80% of Utahans want this land preserved. 20% want race tracks, mineral rights, cliffs dynamited for highways into most areas....they don’t want to walk or hike.
Edward Abbey who wrote “Desert Solitaire” said:
“Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit, and as vital to our lives as water and good bread."
“The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders."
I’m a native Utahan and you have NO IDEA what you are saying!
“accommodate the more serious local concerns...’you stole it from us concerns’?”
My favorite National Park was Canyonlands because it is completely inaccessible by anyway except to hike it. You must climb over steep ridges, cliffs, and drop-offs. We had quiet for a week. No ATVs, no humongous RVs, no monster tire trucks. You have to pack your own water in because this IS high desert (5,000 ft tables) and you carry everything on your back. There are no motels or McDonalds. You pack your bedroll, food, cooking utensils and a small butane lamp to heat your food..NO campfires allowed.
The local yahoos want to turn Utah into their own track for racing Hummers and other large 4W drives. They tear up the soil, destroy a fine vegetation that has taken thousands of years to grow, so the Park Rangers designate a trail only wide enough for one person to walk. The cave paintings are surreal and we leave them alone for future generations.
“Take only photos, leave only footprints.”
80% of Utahans want this land preserved. 20% want race tracks, mineral rights, cliffs dynamited for highways into most areas....they don’t want to walk or hike.
Edward Abbey who wrote “Desert Solitaire” said:
“Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit, and as vital to our lives as water and good bread."
“The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders."
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No consideration should be given the thieves in Blanding who not long ago were caught with over 40 thousand looted items. This was not weekend pilfering this was massive organized theft. They even had their own outlet store in New Mexico. Blanding is a small community of which over 90% are Mormons so everyone knows what is going on. Many Mormons think that because they were in this area first they have some special claim to all the lands. But the Utah statehood agreement include a special provision to address this saying that the State of Utah renounce all claims to public lands forever. An agreement Utah is now in violation of that agreement and they should have their statehood revoked. If you can rescind Monument why not Statehood.
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We spend summer along the St. Lawrence River and travel to the Canadian towns nearby. It always amazes me how the old building are so well preserved. I enjoy looking at them, their construction and realizing how long many have been there. I always marvel at how they seem to save their and we seem to tear ours down so we can build uglier more modern buildings.
To some like Trump and many of his followers, those areas, and places like Bears Ears, will only be beautiful when they have one of his garish hotels with Trump emblazoned across the front sitting there. And generating millions for him, of course.
To some like Trump and many of his followers, those areas, and places like Bears Ears, will only be beautiful when they have one of his garish hotels with Trump emblazoned across the front sitting there. And generating millions for him, of course.
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This article is remarkable for its understatement, but understandably so.
Bears Ears contains places more wild than any in the Grand Canyon. It's Anasazi ruins outnumber those in Mesa Verde or Chaco Canyon. Its natural landscapes are more varied than any other chunk of North America of similar size.
But the understatement prize goes to the damage being done to it right now. Besides bullet holes in thousand-year-old petroglyphs, bulldozers were used to excavate and devastate ruins before it became protected. And some of the greatest damage had been done by San Juan County Commissioners themselves (now convicted felons, ex-cons).
If you plan on visiting the desert South, this is the first place you should see. It is like visiting the Grand Canyon, Zion, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde, Arches, etc in one place. You have no idea until you see it.
Bears Ears contains places more wild than any in the Grand Canyon. It's Anasazi ruins outnumber those in Mesa Verde or Chaco Canyon. Its natural landscapes are more varied than any other chunk of North America of similar size.
But the understatement prize goes to the damage being done to it right now. Besides bullet holes in thousand-year-old petroglyphs, bulldozers were used to excavate and devastate ruins before it became protected. And some of the greatest damage had been done by San Juan County Commissioners themselves (now convicted felons, ex-cons).
If you plan on visiting the desert South, this is the first place you should see. It is like visiting the Grand Canyon, Zion, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde, Arches, etc in one place. You have no idea until you see it.
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Until it's protected better, it's best to keep the place a secret.
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It's not a secret and it has to be saved.
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Doing donuts on a burial ground! Do they not know or not care? Why do people who might be truly lovely people in some contexts feel they have the right to be destructive and disrespectful when it comes to commonly-held ancient places? Entitlement? Ignorance? I don't want to make a judgement and say these people are evil or bad or uncivilized.... but sometimes it really looks that way.
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They could be doing it intentionally to punish the rest of us. The conservative philosophy of 'oh you like that, well I'll destroy it'. Remember the bullies who would spit in your food when you were a kid? They grow up and become Republicans with dirt bikes.
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1) None of this land *ever* belonged to the State or counties.
2) It has always belonged to *all* Americans.
3) The only ones trying a "land grab" are the GOP / Trump supporters.
2) It has always belonged to *all* Americans.
3) The only ones trying a "land grab" are the GOP / Trump supporters.
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4) BHO obviously lacked the ability to understand the famous writings of well-known presidential scholar Richard Neustadt -- "the power of the presidency is to persuade."
BHO and his Chicago pals rammed through PPACA on a straight party-line vote, flip-flopped on budget issues that severely weakened John Boehner, and made one-sided decisions like Bear Ears.
BHO pushed the locals -- they're pushing back. That's on BHO, and no one else. That's why nothing BHO did will long survive.
BHO and his Chicago pals rammed through PPACA on a straight party-line vote, flip-flopped on budget issues that severely weakened John Boehner, and made one-sided decisions like Bear Ears.
BHO pushed the locals -- they're pushing back. That's on BHO, and no one else. That's why nothing BHO did will long survive.
BDO, Your comments sound like an episode of Hannity or an afternoon with Limbaugh. What you say is false and hurtful to the process of deciding what to do with public lands. If you can't at least be truthful about the process of how Obama came to the decision to designate it as a Monument, how can anything you say be believed? The process conducted by the Obama Interior Dept. was long and careful. They spoke to constituents on all sides of the issue. They solicited public feedback and weighed it carefully. They studied the history of the area and what was contained therein. Bears Ears has been under consideration for Monument designation since 1936 and finally received it in 2016.
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“You just don’t take something from somebody,” Phil Lyman, a San Juan County commissioner, told a New York Times reporter in May. He equated the monument designation to grand theft.
Gee, Phil. Who did you take it from?
Gee, Phil. Who did you take it from?
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John: Phil Lyman told Native Americans that they “lost the war” and therefore have no right to comment on the Bears Ears or other public lands questions.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3928251-155/rolly-bears-ears-opponents-postin...
Phil Lyman was also convicted of organizing an off-road vehicle ride/protest through an area closed because of archaeological sites. He was later voted Commissioner of the Year by the Utah Association of Counties.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3928251-155/rolly-bears-ears-opponents-postin...
Phil Lyman was also convicted of organizing an off-road vehicle ride/protest through an area closed because of archaeological sites. He was later voted Commissioner of the Year by the Utah Association of Counties.
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In addition, the State of Utah gave up claims to lands within the state when it gained statehood - Utah Enabling Act. It has always been Federal land - BLM. Nothing was stolen.
Congressman Bishop's PLI was larger than BENM.
Come to Utah and see what OHV use has done to the land.
Congressman Bishop's PLI was larger than BENM.
Come to Utah and see what OHV use has done to the land.
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Rapacious businesses are a hallmark of the U.S. and it took people like Teddy Roosevelt and Barak Obama to bring them to heel. I voted for Hillary Clinton because the devil you know is better than the devil who knows nothing.
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The magnificent Southwest! Beyond its physical beauty, never-endingly astonishing to these Northeastern eyes, the landscapes remind us of our unpayable debts to the first peoples whose successors we have tried to push into the margins of society. Bears Ears' designation is the product of cooperation among tribes that was both unprecedented and a pathway to the future for our native neighbors. There are places of beauty and culture that should simply exist, hidden from plundering and with the promise of harsh punishment for those who dare to be culture-robbers. It is the least we can do to protect these lands and the spirit that motivated their designation.
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Having hiked in most of the threatened National Monuments in Southern Utah and Arizona, I can only say such experiences are unforgettable. Their beauty, history, wildlife, fauna, and enormity are awe-inspiring. One difficulty in defending them from encroachment at many of the monuments is the small number of people who come to enjoy them. For many of us, the thought of maintaining them as best as possible is sufficient to object to development. In the eyes of those focused on profit such arguments are futile. Considering, however, the extreme number of visitors to our National Parks, The Monuments become increasingly attractive to vacationers.
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I spent my childhood hiking through these canyons with my eager puppy zig zagging in front of me. The experience still washes over me with waves of inspiration and reflection.
The odd thing is no one in Utah really hates the monument except the $3,600 people in Blanding. And it is about money. The need the money for sure. Most of these hardy folks work for the government they rally against while they save the lower paying jobs at the quicky marts for the Native Americans.
Our license plate is the image of an iconic red rock arch, should we replace it with an oil well pump? Conveniently they have the same dimensions.
Many in this area are torn on the issue. They want the monument, they want to preserve the land but they dare not speak out. Bashing government interference is seen as insulting your neighbors and church brethren. It will damage your social life, no doubt.
If you're looking for inspiration, hustle down there. Buy some corn nuts and a slushy, try not to feel sorry for those taking your change and pointing you west toward the breath taking Arch Canyon.
The odd thing is no one in Utah really hates the monument except the $3,600 people in Blanding. And it is about money. The need the money for sure. Most of these hardy folks work for the government they rally against while they save the lower paying jobs at the quicky marts for the Native Americans.
Our license plate is the image of an iconic red rock arch, should we replace it with an oil well pump? Conveniently they have the same dimensions.
Many in this area are torn on the issue. They want the monument, they want to preserve the land but they dare not speak out. Bashing government interference is seen as insulting your neighbors and church brethren. It will damage your social life, no doubt.
If you're looking for inspiration, hustle down there. Buy some corn nuts and a slushy, try not to feel sorry for those taking your change and pointing you west toward the breath taking Arch Canyon.
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"President Trump, however, has said that the process of designating national monuments, inaugurated during the Theodore Roosevelt administration 111 years ago, is “another egregious abuse of federal power.” He called the protection of Bears Ears and other national monuments a “massive federal land grab” that “should never have happened.”"
Here in Maine, a private landowner donated land in a beautiful area, together with millions to maintain it, and Obama designated it as a national monument. How is that an "abuse of federal power" and a "federal land grab?" And now Trump is considering changing or undesignating the monument.
Here in Maine, a private landowner donated land in a beautiful area, together with millions to maintain it, and Obama designated it as a national monument. How is that an "abuse of federal power" and a "federal land grab?" And now Trump is considering changing or undesignating the monument.
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" .. Here in Maine, a private landowner donated land in a beautiful area, together with millions to maintain it, and Obama designated it as a national monument. How is that an "abuse of federal power" and a "federal land grab?"
Oh .. because the land-owner's family for decades abused the locals?
Because BHO, as usual, never tried to engage the locals?
Because the locals are tired of having non-locals, lecture them about life?
Look in the mirror, Democrats. The problem starts there.
Oh .. because the land-owner's family for decades abused the locals?
Because BHO, as usual, never tried to engage the locals?
Because the locals are tired of having non-locals, lecture them about life?
Look in the mirror, Democrats. The problem starts there.
Quoting Phil Lyman and not, say, one of the Native Americans who long campaigned for the Monument, is like quoting one of the 3% who deny anthropic climate change but not one of the 97% of scientists who know something about it.
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Thanks for this article. The Bears Ears is a truly special place.
I hope the Interior Department will not live up to its threat to shrink it. More than 2.5 million comments were received during the comment period, and analyses have shown that up to 98% supported leaving all the monuments under review alone, as designated. More than 50% of the comments mentioned Bears Ears specifically.
During his confirmation hearing, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said he was a Teddy Roosevelt conservationist. This is his chance to prove it!
I hope the Interior Department will not live up to its threat to shrink it. More than 2.5 million comments were received during the comment period, and analyses have shown that up to 98% supported leaving all the monuments under review alone, as designated. More than 50% of the comments mentioned Bears Ears specifically.
During his confirmation hearing, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said he was a Teddy Roosevelt conservationist. This is his chance to prove it!
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