Senate Republicans LIE. PEROID. There, fixed it for you.
A reality TV star billionaire president is not the right man to decide American healthcare. He has insurance and has no worries. The Wealthy Republican Congress and Senate aren't the ones to decide our healthcare either. They too have good insurance and we are paying for it. We are paying for it while they profit from Health insurance company buy offs. They are paid to cheat us because that makes good business. But what about our health? Well we better fight for it! Truth is they don't care.
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I wish Senator Rubio of Florida would hold town hall meetings. Many Floridians would love to give him a piece of our mind.
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Yes those lying Republican lawmakers better lie low. Single payer insurance would cost much much less than what Reps say. Besides We are already paying for other people's insurance every day in every ER in the country with our exorbitant insurance premiums. We pay for the others you betcha and so do hospitals since our country provides inadequate preventive healthcare. That's why hospitals are closing. They cannot absorb the cost of expensive death in the ER. Single pay world reduce cost since people wouldn't have to wait to die to get help. Choice, of course, there is choice with single payer. Private extra insurance is available if you want the add-0n. No problem. The Republican plan offers zero for people-not even basic care. Why you ask? Because Republicans would rather kiss up to big health insurance company profits for themselves and bow down before the Koch brothers anti-human doctrine. That's why.
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It's about time the spineless GOP made a public announcement that Obamacare is in fact the Affordable Care Act and that we've had 7 years of angst re:repealing it because quess what…Obama is an African American not because it is a bad bill.The GOP's bigotry and craven greed goes beyond all of our wildest
expectations.They cannot give the rich their promised tax cuts til the ACA is gone ergo this whole pathetic story.We cannot count on any of these white dudes suddenly finding a conscience so we must stop them by protesting,calling out their lies and generally making their lives as miserable as they have made ours.
expectations.They cannot give the rich their promised tax cuts til the ACA is gone ergo this whole pathetic story.We cannot count on any of these white dudes suddenly finding a conscience so we must stop them by protesting,calling out their lies and generally making their lives as miserable as they have made ours.
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These guys lied about the ACA.
NOW they say they are beholden to some "promise" to who exactly to ditch it?? Trumpcare has 17% support. It's a dog and they are going to pay for it.
Gardener was someone the Denver Post actually supported over Mark Udahl because they said he would work with both sides. That put Gardener over the top and I see now that he has voted with Trump 95% of the time. He wont answer the phone and wont meet with constituents. He plays "smoke bomb" with more than his kids it looks like.
NOW they say they are beholden to some "promise" to who exactly to ditch it?? Trumpcare has 17% support. It's a dog and they are going to pay for it.
Gardener was someone the Denver Post actually supported over Mark Udahl because they said he would work with both sides. That put Gardener over the top and I see now that he has voted with Trump 95% of the time. He wont answer the phone and wont meet with constituents. He plays "smoke bomb" with more than his kids it looks like.
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Writing about the republican hold outs as if they are some kind of heroes is nonsense. As they bask in the dim light of weird non voting celebrity stasis on their tax cut for the rich bill, these same folks that have sold our country out for going on four decades. We are sick of politicians and the media congratulating these very mediocre public servants who are really servants of the corporations. Collins and the fake democrat Manchin, etc will buckle and bend to the hammer of $ when the time is ripe, and when we aren't looking at them so intensely. Stop worshiping these people.
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Republicans can't back down now--they signed the pledge to Grover Norquist, after all.
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Republicans who won't face constituents,go home ,hide and start a new party,
You're going to need it.
You're going to need it.
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Peter Roskam, R-6th District Illinois, decided to skip parades in the town he grew up in (Glen Ellyn) and the town he lives in (Wheaton.) He was expected at both parades. He also voted yes to discard and destroy his constituents' health care in May.
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Funny, but Republicans don't mind showing their faces in public when they're lobbed softball questions and debating an infantile birther on TV.
Apparently, dealing with informed adults scares most of them - after all, look at how they used to freak out and act like they were tripping on acid whenever former President Obama walked into a room.
Apparently, dealing with informed adults scares most of them - after all, look at how they used to freak out and act like they were tripping on acid whenever former President Obama walked into a room.
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"Senate Republicans Lay Low on the Fourth." I guess it's now a done deal. It's official. It's OK to say I'm going to lay down. RIP "I'm going to lie down" (although I think I will do that now).
"I think it's because health care is so personal"- Senator Collins
Gee, what an astute observation, that people would take their health personally.
Gee, what an astute observation, that people would take their health personally.
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Ahhhhh--the courage of republicans.
My so-called Congressman--who is currently under criminal investigation BTW--almost never holds Town Hall meetings where his constituents can raise issues or ask questions. He has held two meetings in the last six months. In the first of those, he mocked constituents who protested the coming healthcare cuts by singing "We Are the Champions" back at them. In his last meeting, he cherry-picked the audience, packing it with supporters, only so he wouldn't have to answer any unpleasant questions about his illegal spending activities, or the republicans' (successful) attempts to turn our democracy into an oligarchy. Oh yes--he also sent his Daddy (not kidding) out into the crowds waiting to get into the meeting to mock and harass people protesting the healthcare cuts.
Those are the republicans "representing" us in Congress. Brave! Principled! Ethical!
My so-called Congressman--who is currently under criminal investigation BTW--almost never holds Town Hall meetings where his constituents can raise issues or ask questions. He has held two meetings in the last six months. In the first of those, he mocked constituents who protested the coming healthcare cuts by singing "We Are the Champions" back at them. In his last meeting, he cherry-picked the audience, packing it with supporters, only so he wouldn't have to answer any unpleasant questions about his illegal spending activities, or the republicans' (successful) attempts to turn our democracy into an oligarchy. Oh yes--he also sent his Daddy (not kidding) out into the crowds waiting to get into the meeting to mock and harass people protesting the healthcare cuts.
Those are the republicans "representing" us in Congress. Brave! Principled! Ethical!
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Why can't (or won't) they just OWN IT???
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Maybe it's time for another book: "Profiles in Cowardice. How Republican Congressmen Shriveled Up and Betrayed Their Constituents."
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THE GOP Revolution is now gaining the results of the harvest of the seeds planted when that revolution began. Revolution has turned into revulsion. Trust has been betrayed, replaced by lies. The GOP civil war in Congress is preventing any legislation from passing. The Democrats were incapable of prevailing. So they're now standing back to watch the GOP politically kill themselves off. Their party animal at the moment is most like the extinct DoDo.
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They know that killing Medicaid is poison, so they hide or lie.
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Each Fourth of July we end our traditional festivities with a family reading and discussion of the Declaration of Independence. We're a large group that spans the political spectrum--from supporters of Sanders to supporters of Trump. Jefferson's great articulation of the Enlightenment view of government--that governments are contracts established by citizens for the common good--felt especially poignant this year as each of us noted our fear that democracy, or even the fundamental idea that government exists to serve the people, had been eroded by money, special interests, and the indifference of many in Congress to their oath of office.
This article cheers me somewhat: protest that which undermines the common good--it is our duty to do so--and, next year, we need to vote those who have renounced common sense and common decency out of office.
This article cheers me somewhat: protest that which undermines the common good--it is our duty to do so--and, next year, we need to vote those who have renounced common sense and common decency out of office.
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In Texas, less than 30% of registered voters turned out, and we have a very unqualified executive branch, Governor, Lt. Gov. and attorney general running this enormous state. They are even discussing secession from the United States.
How can incompetence become the ruling voice over 25 million Texans ?
How can incompetence become the ruling voice over 25 million Texans ?
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AM right wing hate radio, which reaches all corners of the state where other media cannot, certainly has a role, along with fundamentalism and that uniquely Texan rebel state of mind.
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Why are people thanking Susan Collins? Like all Republicans, she voted to put Mitch McConnell in charge of the Senate.
So now she "stands up to him" as he plots to destroy health care for millions while giving a tax cut to wealthy Republican donors; perhaps by standing firm she will extract a few small concessions.
Too little, too late.
The answer is to vote against every single Republican so as to take control of the Senate away from McConnell (and to take control of the House away from Paul Ryan)
So now she "stands up to him" as he plots to destroy health care for millions while giving a tax cut to wealthy Republican donors; perhaps by standing firm she will extract a few small concessions.
Too little, too late.
The answer is to vote against every single Republican so as to take control of the Senate away from McConnell (and to take control of the House away from Paul Ryan)
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I don't understand the thinking of the Trump supporters that keep talking about former President Obama and what he did/did not do. The election is over, their man won, but they are still unhappy, why? In addition their man won the Electoral College. Does it still rankle them and "POTUSA" that the popular vote went to Clinton. That is a message sent from the people that still hurts them.
VOTE 2018
VOTE 2018
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It's "lie low." Please don't be illiterate.
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Have you seen the ol' bumper sticker on our local septic tank pumper truck..."Full of Political Promises."
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Single payer insurance saves the insured and the government a lot of money. First of all it stomps on the middle man: those fat pocket Heath insurance companies. Next, as run by the central government, the program is more efficient---Medicare has already proven this. Finally, people stay well and live longer with healthcare readily available. There are then fewer big cost ER visits and untreated chronic illnesses and failed hospitals.
Republicans already know all of the above but are resistant because they view health care as a profitable business for them. That attitude is immoral and inhumane. It is the reason why America has a higher infant mortality rate than other Western countries and also why health in general in the US lags way behind other countries that aren't third world.
The lie perpetrated by the present administration that single payer eliminates choice in healthcare and that single payer means we pay for others is absurd. The truth is we already pay for others with our high premiums each time a patient arrives in the ER. Who pays? We do! As for freedom of choice those on single payer can always add extra private insurance. Don't listen to Republican propaganda about health insurance. It's a lie.
Republicans already know all of the above but are resistant because they view health care as a profitable business for them. That attitude is immoral and inhumane. It is the reason why America has a higher infant mortality rate than other Western countries and also why health in general in the US lags way behind other countries that aren't third world.
The lie perpetrated by the present administration that single payer eliminates choice in healthcare and that single payer means we pay for others is absurd. The truth is we already pay for others with our high premiums each time a patient arrives in the ER. Who pays? We do! As for freedom of choice those on single payer can always add extra private insurance. Don't listen to Republican propaganda about health insurance. It's a lie.
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How great it would be if our elected representatives actually polled their constituency and then represented them, instead of placing their own self-interests ahead of their constituents. But they're human, too, and it ain't gonna happen.
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It´s a very good thing that people are realizing how cruel and selfish the Republican desire is to repeal healthcare for the needy in order to give more tax cuts for the wealthy. However if the Democrats don´t come up with a positive and liberal program that gives people something to VOTE FOR in 2018 all the present sound and fury will signify nothing.
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All of these Senators and members of the House have cadillac health insurance paid for by....wait for it....the very people that are cutting health care to. Shame on them.
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Shouldn't this be "lie low"?
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whether they lay or lie with the dogs, they will still get fleas ...... (and then blame Obama)
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Gutless! Don't they understand that if they can't take the heat nor defend their vote they will be found GUILTY of collusion against the American people...
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Republican senators know very well how horrible this bill is. Therefore they are acting like cockroaches, hiding under the refrigerator rather than be exposed in the light of day to their constituents' serious concerns about health care.
They can't hide forever. I am certain that legislators think that this will all blow over. The worst of their bill is not scheduled to go into effect until after 2020 when Trump might be re-elected, so they think they have time to "boil the frog" until then.
For this reason, the public must not let up on them. They must get in their faces every day, every hour until they realize that their jobs are on the line if they support this terrible bill. Public pressure is the only way these reprobate politicians will act responsibly. They can't hide under the refrigerator forever.
It is significant that their "last resort" is to actually work with Democrats!!!
They can't hide forever. I am certain that legislators think that this will all blow over. The worst of their bill is not scheduled to go into effect until after 2020 when Trump might be re-elected, so they think they have time to "boil the frog" until then.
For this reason, the public must not let up on them. They must get in their faces every day, every hour until they realize that their jobs are on the line if they support this terrible bill. Public pressure is the only way these reprobate politicians will act responsibly. They can't hide under the refrigerator forever.
It is significant that their "last resort" is to actually work with Democrats!!!
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Republican Representatives hiding from their Republican Conned-stituents--- on the Fourth of July? Say it ain't so-- Joe.
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Deep throat put it so succinctly, "follow the money" during the Watergate scandal. Is it any different today? The reason the GOP Senators and Representatives are hiding? Because they don't represent you and I. They represent their big $ donors. And thanks to the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United, money is free speech. I would contend money surpasses free speech. Unless you are rich and donate, don't waste your breath. But above all, don't forget this when you vote in the 2018 and 2020 elections. If your Rep and Sen are in hiding this July 4th, seems clear they don't care what you want or think. You hired them, fire them.
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Moran will hold three meetings in the western part of the state - the rural part. He is staying away from the east with all the major population centers.
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When you compare the daring and audacity of the Founding Fathers, who declared "we the people," not begging a monarch for their rights, with the slithering,craven members of the GOP and their lackeys on the Internet/in the media, it is sad to see how low America has sunk. Hiding from the people they fooled into electing them, passing laws to prevent protest,etc. Tactics that Putin,Trump's boss would be proud to claim.
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Proof that Republicans are not about working for The People. Proof that they are for the corporate money and influence, which has simply taken over the GOP completely it appears. This is why voter suppression and gerrymandering is so strong with the GOP. This is why they work hard on the same canned message to thier constituents while doing the opposite. They simply do not respect not support Democracy enough these days. Thier endgame and how it plays out is anyone's guess perhaps even to Republicans. It sure does not seem sustainable especially when the effects of global warming and ecomonic reality becomes too obvious to enough Republicans.
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First steer to the packing house wins.
People who sign up for a pyramid schemes, years later, will still stare at a garage full of skin cream and not be able to just admit it wasn't a good idea. It's a hard thing to do, for anyone. They're still going to vote for these people, because they'll continue to be re-sold on the idea when the time comes.
If the blatant bribery (and that's exactly what it is) isn't somehow curbed or thwarted in the coming decades, this won't stop. If they have a financial incentive to pass certain laws, they will figure out a way to sell it to their voters - because they don't have to sell the actual laws, they just need to keep selling the age old idea that you should hate liberals. Not a hard thing to do these days.
These guys are not "hiding" from their voters. They're just routinely ignoring them in non-election years.
If the blatant bribery (and that's exactly what it is) isn't somehow curbed or thwarted in the coming decades, this won't stop. If they have a financial incentive to pass certain laws, they will figure out a way to sell it to their voters - because they don't have to sell the actual laws, they just need to keep selling the age old idea that you should hate liberals. Not a hard thing to do these days.
These guys are not "hiding" from their voters. They're just routinely ignoring them in non-election years.
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Folks in Maine are right to be suspicious of Sen. Collins. If and when a vote comes and the pressure is applied, she'll cave, and lament how she's only doing it reluctantly and how it's not really her fault.
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GOP does not want to listen to the People - they listen to only the significant donors. This has been always clear. As a GOP politician, you make the voters believe that you are acting in their best interest and ensure that your key donors are happy.
This is how a modern democracy works - instead of the country being managed by authoritarian, it is actually perceived democracy with few oligarchs that setting the agenda. Trump would love to be authoritarian, but the constitution prevents it.
This is how a modern democracy works - instead of the country being managed by authoritarian, it is actually perceived democracy with few oligarchs that setting the agenda. Trump would love to be authoritarian, but the constitution prevents it.
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Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R CA), has a blog with a letter to his constituents about the meaning of the 4th of July, and how he looked forward to seeing everyone at the parade and other festivities associated with Independence Day. It's a very nice letter. It really is.
It was published on July 1, 2011.
It was published on July 1, 2011.
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When protestors scream and silence opponents, free speech is repressed. And whether you oppose or support the cause, silencing the opposition is a questionable tactic. Celebrating when Republican Senators are fearful of attack is a strange policy for a newspaper. When Trump supporters have been particularly rude, the media has expressed a fear of violence. They support rude Democrats. though -- many of whom are arrested. That strikes me as a double standard. I support the ACA. But I support your right to oppose it.
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As in the off-the-rails White House, accountability is not on the GOP agenda. The notion that you have zero responsibility to the people you represent if it interferes with your fealty to the donor class undermines democracy itself, which appears to be the objective rather than collateral damage. While the president does his best(?) to destroy faith in the electoral process and undermine the credibility of a free press in service to his tortured ego, his emboldened republican enablers salivate at the prospect of doing an end run around their constituency, jamming through a health care bill that all but eliminates health care for millions of Americans.
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The Republicans can hide in caves and under rocks, but that will not make them disappear. Sooner or later, they have to face their constituents!
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Might as well throw in the towel.Americans have accepted the welfare state.They look to govt as their savior and nothing can change that,until it bankrupts the country.Seeing that in huge Federal deficits and many states going bankrupt.Most people don't realize just how wasteful govt spending is.That govt is the greatest wealth destruction machine ever invented.A Dollar goes in and if you're lucky,.50 comes out.
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jrj96920. What an uninformed observation. Having single payer insurance does not constitute a welfare state. Sure there may be some people who take advantage of national insurance but these are not the majority.
Besides Americans ARE ALREADY for other people's health care and that is one reason premiums are too high and hospitals closing. Don't you know that?? As a nurse I know it! When a sick person has to wait till he is near death to get medical help, he goes to the ER. There are then Catastrophic care costs and WE and the hospital DO pay for it!
Who else did you think pays? Single payer insurance means people can get care when they are reasonably well and this saves big bucks for all of us and may prevent a hospital closure in your neighborhood.
Besides Americans ARE ALREADY for other people's health care and that is one reason premiums are too high and hospitals closing. Don't you know that?? As a nurse I know it! When a sick person has to wait till he is near death to get medical help, he goes to the ER. There are then Catastrophic care costs and WE and the hospital DO pay for it!
Who else did you think pays? Single payer insurance means people can get care when they are reasonably well and this saves big bucks for all of us and may prevent a hospital closure in your neighborhood.
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We spent $6T fighting a war in Iraq for no reason, I think we can find some dollars to provide the working poor (80% of people on Medicaid are part of a working family) health care.
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Then why are developed nations with near-socialist systems thriving?
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When will republicans acknowledge that Medicaid was only provided with extra funding under the ACA? Would they rather those who cannot afford insurance and its high deductibles go without any coverage?
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Well, the general rule of thumb, for those who are currently representing the majority of society, limited or no access to health care speeds demise. We know that the sick comprises one segment of society that ruffles far too many feathers among those who never had to forego necessary treatment or starve. So, if one does not have enough cash to pay the ungodly, unreasonable prices in spite of knowing that the cost does not make health care better, in fact, it serves only to line the elitists pockets with more. The unspoken, often denied, justification is that the sick do not deserve to live anyway. The elderly, disabled, and poor are also segments in our society that inconveniently muddy the waters in which the rich dally, so, clean up the whole messy problem, deny them access to health care.
Everyone who voted yes for the current administration knew of its fatuity before they ticked the boxes, but chose to do it anyway. If I behaved so carelessly, irresponsible in the same manner as those who want to obliterate the ACA, costing more to start over, instead of ‘fixing’ the unforeseen issues, when only one room in my house burnt, I would have stupidly torn down the entire house and started from scratch, and just repair the existing. Those that have no need or skill practicing fiscal responsibility are certainly not equipped to speak for the majority. The top 1% is the biggest flaw in the system. Fix that, and a lot of other problems will fix themselves.
Everyone who voted yes for the current administration knew of its fatuity before they ticked the boxes, but chose to do it anyway. If I behaved so carelessly, irresponsible in the same manner as those who want to obliterate the ACA, costing more to start over, instead of ‘fixing’ the unforeseen issues, when only one room in my house burnt, I would have stupidly torn down the entire house and started from scratch, and just repair the existing. Those that have no need or skill practicing fiscal responsibility are certainly not equipped to speak for the majority. The top 1% is the biggest flaw in the system. Fix that, and a lot of other problems will fix themselves.
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Government away from the people.
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Sorry, the proposed health care plan is about as unpopular as THIRD DEGREE BURNS over 99% of your body.
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Republicans may be mean, but they're not stupid. They know their "health care" plan is a disaster. It violates the very principle of doctors: first, do no harm.
This odious plan does much harm. Mostly it does harm to the very needy constituents many of them represent. How they can go home, attend these Fourth of July events - think of it, it's Fourth of July, good heaven's - where they press the flesh, smile at the people, wish them good cheer, Meanwhile, when they return to DC, they are willing to vote for a "health care" plan which will drive a shiv into the backs of these folks. How dare they? What I wonder are they doing in public service anyway? Has serving the public lost its meaning? Are they so caught up in their failed Voodoo Economic philosophy they can't see the forest for the trees?
DD
Manhattan
This odious plan does much harm. Mostly it does harm to the very needy constituents many of them represent. How they can go home, attend these Fourth of July events - think of it, it's Fourth of July, good heaven's - where they press the flesh, smile at the people, wish them good cheer, Meanwhile, when they return to DC, they are willing to vote for a "health care" plan which will drive a shiv into the backs of these folks. How dare they? What I wonder are they doing in public service anyway? Has serving the public lost its meaning? Are they so caught up in their failed Voodoo Economic philosophy they can't see the forest for the trees?
DD
Manhattan
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Are Republican politicians so dense that they don't see the problem with continuing to push for a healthcare bill that is so disliked they are afraid to face their constituents? What more do they need to tell them they are headed in the wrong direction?
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Do these people represent their constituents or their benefactors? They can't seem to face their constituents, but yet are willing to do deals to get the Health Care bill passed?
I think it's time for us to re-define what we mean by corruption - legally.
I'm a Republican, but I shall change my vote in the next election if the Republicans under Paul Ryan push this through.
I think it's time for us to re-define what we mean by corruption - legally.
I'm a Republican, but I shall change my vote in the next election if the Republicans under Paul Ryan push this through.
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One word: Benefactors. Peter Roskam, R-6thIL. 3rd largest donor (Open Secrets) Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
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If elected officials are representing their constituents and not their own partisan interests there should be no reason to fear attending a public event. The mere fact they cannot or do not want to attend is proof they are not upholding their constitutional duty!
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Well said! I think members of congress should wear jackets with the logo patches of their corporate sponsors similar to race car drivers. This way we'll know who they actually represent.
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There was a golden age of American history when politicians were elected by promising voters things they wanted, even if the promises weren't always kept. In these bleak times, politicians promise to take things away, and we can only hope they won't keep their promises.
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I vote every election and, perhaps out of habit, will continue to do so. But I would never call my Congressman or Senator. I may as well try to call George Clooney or Scarlett Johansen. If, somehow, I actually got to talk to my Congressman or one of my Senators, I'm sure it would be as useful as talking to my tv.
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If this were "repeal and replace" instead of what it is - i.e., DISMANTLE AND DESTROY - then the GOP would have ironed out not only their issues but the issues of the other house representatives and have had a plan already. They are blatant frauds.
After adding over 160 GOP amendments and turning the originally proposed Public Option into a Republican plan, the GOP contested its legitimacy and took the Affordable Care Act all the way to the Supreme Court where it was deemed a legitimate law.
The GOP showed no respect for the Supreme Court OR the Rule of Law by shutting the government down for 16 days as their response.
The self-proclaimed "party of fiscal prudence" and "personal responsibility" and "personal responsibility" also demonstrated a contempt for numerous attempts to lower prescription costs, protect US citizens from price-gouging tactics, train interns, and stabilize the market. All of these attempts were scuttled while the GOP put on their Green Eggs and Ham Act. And they DELIBERATELY misinformed their constituents.
And what about the preamble to the Constitution - which would apply to ALL laws, the Affordable Care Act included:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."
They are a disgrace to the people, their party, and this country.
After adding over 160 GOP amendments and turning the originally proposed Public Option into a Republican plan, the GOP contested its legitimacy and took the Affordable Care Act all the way to the Supreme Court where it was deemed a legitimate law.
The GOP showed no respect for the Supreme Court OR the Rule of Law by shutting the government down for 16 days as their response.
The self-proclaimed "party of fiscal prudence" and "personal responsibility" and "personal responsibility" also demonstrated a contempt for numerous attempts to lower prescription costs, protect US citizens from price-gouging tactics, train interns, and stabilize the market. All of these attempts were scuttled while the GOP put on their Green Eggs and Ham Act. And they DELIBERATELY misinformed their constituents.
And what about the preamble to the Constitution - which would apply to ALL laws, the Affordable Care Act included:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."
They are a disgrace to the people, their party, and this country.
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So, these Senators are saying that they're afraid of their own constituents? Hopefully, those constituents remember that on election day.
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Doubtful. People have short memories and only hear what they want to hear.
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Just one more thing to love about America. The freedom of elected officials to run and hide from their constituents.
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There's the public persona and the personal persona, and the politicians know they can't parade around our communities with their folksy dress-up and fake smiles to conceal their conspiratorial designs back in Washington D.C.
Conspiratorial? Yes, they literally hid the repeal-replace health care bill while drafting it up, and they tried to ram it through the senate before having to come out and face the voters.
While some may think this is cynical, I believe the majority of politicians come out hat in hand for political support but have no intention of ever caring about those voters' concerns when they go back to Washington D.C., however this July 4th holiday, they know we're onto them and they're hiding.
One thing Trump has done in service to the nation is that he's opened our eyes to the possibility of cynicism in politics (how can you not be cynical about Trump?) and now we're seeing it everywhere.
Conspiratorial? Yes, they literally hid the repeal-replace health care bill while drafting it up, and they tried to ram it through the senate before having to come out and face the voters.
While some may think this is cynical, I believe the majority of politicians come out hat in hand for political support but have no intention of ever caring about those voters' concerns when they go back to Washington D.C., however this July 4th holiday, they know we're onto them and they're hiding.
One thing Trump has done in service to the nation is that he's opened our eyes to the possibility of cynicism in politics (how can you not be cynical about Trump?) and now we're seeing it everywhere.
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What is crystal clear is that those whose candidate lost in November are bitter and reluctant to accept their loss. They march, they protest, they interrupt those with whom they are supposed to be having a conversation with. They remind me a lot of the Occupy Wall Street protests of several years back. They were energized and determined. The weather would not stop them. Time would not stop them. But, as time passed, their movement waxed and finally waned. They failed last November. No one even remembers them now.
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Apparently you remember them.
Beyond that, you seem to suggest that if one"s candidate loses they should no longer express their opinions, march or protest. Just accept it and get with the program just like Republicans did after Obama was elected, right? Right?
Beyond that, you seem to suggest that if one"s candidate loses they should no longer express their opinions, march or protest. Just accept it and get with the program just like Republicans did after Obama was elected, right? Right?
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Hey Alan
Let me know how Trump America works out for you and you family.
Let me know how Trump America works out for you and you family.
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We lost the election, but got (and continue to get, inCongress and elsewhere) far more votes. At some point the Republicans strategy of minority rule has to collapse. You can call it sour grapes, I call it trying to restore democracy.
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Usually the only "talk" politicians will listen to has a dollar sign in front of it. Surveys and statistics indicate that politicians listen only to the rich.
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Cowards! if what they are doing is so indefensible, perhaps they shouldn't be doing it. To be afraid to show your face in your home district speaks volumes about who these Senators are really representing.
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They should have skipped the parades...they have brought that reaction on themselves.
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" Any plan to solve America's health care mess must confront this reality: Our prices for tests, drugs, hospitalizations and procedures -- old or new -- have gone up dramatically year by year, and are vastly higher than in other developed countries. ... we alone effectively allow businesses -- mostly for-profit -- to set the asking price. ... price and value have in many cases become completely uncoupled, allowing price to travel into the stratosphere.... Though they hold hearings and decry pricing, politicians from both parties have been mostly unwilling or unable to tackle this cost problem head on -- likely because they hear (and benefit) far more from medical industry lobbyists than from patients." - Elisabeth Rosenthal, editor-in-chief of Kaiser Health News, 26 June 2017
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I am shocked and appalled that some of the constituents are afraid to state their viewpoint to their own representatives because "they know them". There is no hope for this country if this attitude is widespread. I am appalled and disgusted as usual by the cowardness of those Republicans who refuse to parade or hold downfalls because they don't want to deal with their angry constituents!
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You have to blame the voters for electing these officials in the first place. In the 2016 election, slightly more than half of eligible voters voted. People are voting against their best interests; they vote by party affiliation, catchy 3 word slogan (Build the Wall, Lock her UP), or simple name recognition. Why would these politicians care about the voters? Why would they change their position on Trumpcare or anything else? They'll get re-elected anyway (98% of incumbents do) whether they do what's best for their constituents or not. And if they vote against the Party, they are guaranteed to be out of office.
We have only ourselves to blame.....
We have only ourselves to blame.....
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Hiding in the dark to write laws so they can arm themselves against the Sharon Angles of the nation.
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All Senators who skipped the July 4th parades or didn't hold town halls should be voted out of office as soon as possible. If you can't face your constituents, how can you represent them?
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When you have to skip 4th of July parades to avoid your constituents, it's time for a little personal reflection.
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Here in Ireland that would be called: "consider your position", which is a euphemism for "you should resign".
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the gritty boston neighborhood I grew up in would have said - you need to get lost.
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out here we call that kind of behavior political cowardice
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Wonderful leaders!
1) Get elected by the people
2) Work hard against the People's interests.
3) When the People complain, ignore them.
4) When they get angry about being ignored, hide from them.
5) Make up a false narrative to convince people that hurting them is in their best interests.
6) Cycle back to step 2. Repeat.
1) Get elected by the people
2) Work hard against the People's interests.
3) When the People complain, ignore them.
4) When they get angry about being ignored, hide from them.
5) Make up a false narrative to convince people that hurting them is in their best interests.
6) Cycle back to step 2. Repeat.
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Phrases like "lifelong Republican" show that many of these people vote party before policies. But this time they're dragging down the rest of us with them because of Republican policies on climate change, weakening public agencies that protect us and economics that shrink the middle class. It's getting to the point I don't care if they lose their benefits and I'm tired of doing election work for them and those who don't vote. Those most dependent on benefits vote Republican and are from the states that vote in Republican Senators, Representatives and Trump. Maybe they need to lose their benefits to realize what they are voting for.
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Because nothing says "Constituent Service" like not facing your constituents on the 4th of July. So much for "Of the People, by the People, and for the People."
So acteth the Party of Lincoln.
So acteth the Party of Lincoln.
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GOP Senators are so scared to face voters, that more of them joined a delegation to Afghanistan than the number who stayed home to hold town halls or march in July 4th parades.
Talk about running scared!
Good for our representatives like Susan Collins who have the guts to put Country Over Party!
Loyalty to the People.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/at-parades-and-protests-senator...
Talk about running scared!
Good for our representatives like Susan Collins who have the guts to put Country Over Party!
Loyalty to the People.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/at-parades-and-protests-senator...
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Destroying the ACA, making certain wealthy donors get a big tax windfall- that's the GOP and they should be hounded. Their malfeasance and contempt cannot go unchallenged. Does it make a difference to speak (or yell) at them? If they believe they'll pay a price at the ballot box- loose their cushy healthcare packages and kingly retirement perks- perhaps they'll be responsive to the people who elected them. On the other hand, we've got FOX news and hate radio saturating the airwaves with distortions and outright lies. We've got the Koch Bros and the likes of Sheldon Adelson creating smoke, confusion and fear with their wealth. On this Fourth of July, I fear for the country I love.
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If you can't appear before your constituents except under carefully screened conditions, I think you'd have to consider who you really represent. The ACA needs to be fixed. And it's just too bad that for 7 years Republicans in Congress cravenly promised to repeal it. Now, they control Congress and the White House so they own health care, whatever they do.
In the 90s, Republicans controlled Congress and all we got out of it was interminable investigations of President Clinton. I'd have hoped that Republicans had learned from that experience that you have to be willing to govern to earn the people's trust. Hiding from voters as you try to find a way to shove a deeply unpopular policy down the country's throat is political cowardice of the first order.
In the 90s, Republicans controlled Congress and all we got out of it was interminable investigations of President Clinton. I'd have hoped that Republicans had learned from that experience that you have to be willing to govern to earn the people's trust. Hiding from voters as you try to find a way to shove a deeply unpopular policy down the country's throat is political cowardice of the first order.
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“I feel like it wouldn’t really make a difference,” Ms. Cain replied.
What would make a difference would be voting for democrats. They may not hold your party line on prayer in church or abortion but they will help you survive the ravages of republican rule.
What would make a difference would be voting for democrats. They may not hold your party line on prayer in church or abortion but they will help you survive the ravages of republican rule.
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The strength of political theology is amazing. With only a third of the population supporting Trumpcare, Republicans normally would be running away. Political theology looks like religious theology now; we are creating those more willing to be burned at the stake than to "compromise."
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Not the bravery of the founding fathers.
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Discussions about medical issues inevitably arise when 60+ year old Canadians gather together socially. (Vision issues requiring injections in one's eye win the squirm prize.) A genuine sadness arises when we imagine our suffering compounded by the complexities of the American medical system. Though we do pay enormous taxes the lack of worry about medical costs as one ages is worth it.
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Even with those taxes you are paying less than half what we pay for medical care.
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The working class who voted for Trump and the Republicans may have voted for "repeal and replace," but that was not the end of it. They were promised -- and they voted for -- better coverage at lower cost, more people covered, and no cuts to Medicaid.
And what are they being offered? A trillion out of healthcare and Medicaid to fund a capital gains tax cut for the 1%.
The big surprise to many of these scheming Republican politicians and Trump is that their working class base can clearly when they are being played for fools.
And what are they being offered? A trillion out of healthcare and Medicaid to fund a capital gains tax cut for the 1%.
The big surprise to many of these scheming Republican politicians and Trump is that their working class base can clearly when they are being played for fools.
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The American people were celebrating what is best about our country, our government, and our history. We were celebrating in the style suggested by John Adams in 1776 with parades and fireworks. We were listening to Stars and Stripes Forever, putting up flags, honoring those in our country who served, and basking in the blessings of liberty.
Too bad our United States Senators refused to show up for the party with the rest of us. Could it be that they don't celebrate the same America we do?
Too bad our United States Senators refused to show up for the party with the rest of us. Could it be that they don't celebrate the same America we do?
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I have to admit I thought Senator Susan Collins was just posturing when she initially came out against the healthcare bill. Instead, she's shown herself to be a Patriot in my book, one of the few elected officials who puts her constituents first. When you think of it, with all the aging baby boomers marching towards Medicare, it's a little surprising that she's a lone voice in the woods for protecting it.
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Senator Collins seems like one of the few remaining rational Republicans, but she usually ends up voting with her party, anyway. I wouldn't celebrate just yet.
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Collins will cave eventually, after McConnell sends a bit of pork Down East. Republicans always put party before country.
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Susan Collins knows very well that she can stand with (seeming) impunity against the republican healthcare bill, because unless two other republican Senators join her to vote against it, the bill will pass. So, she looks "brave" at no cost, since the bill WILL pass.
It is sad to me that so many of the individuals interviewed feel that contacting their US Senator will have no effect. I believe this is a result of how our representative form of government has been distorted by the big money unleashed by the Citizens United decision, by the extreme gerrymandering done after the 2010 elections, and by the power of some cable networks over unquestioning voters. Governing is difficult at best in a such a widespread nation as the US; with partisanship being held above thoughtful deliberation and decision making, will we ever emerge from this dark woods?
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Neither (Republican) senator nor our (Republican) representative turned out for the Fourth of July parade, something that hasn't happened in my memory. If they genuinely believed they were in the right trying to dismantle Obamacare, they would have come out and taken the heat, in the name of "be[ing] persecuted for righteousness' sake."
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I think it is crass and cowardly on their part. I feel that they are preparing to sell out their voters in favor of the insurance industry, Paul Ryan and the pharmaceutical industry.
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Shame on every single elected "representative of the people" who hide from their constituents, and those who, like Donald Trump, seem to think they are only answerable to those who are in their party or likely to re-elect them. I long for the "service" that men like the Kennedys, flawed though they may have been, who understood that they owed their good fortune to America and gave back with their service (and lives). And I applaud those who guide their lives by conscience, are not chasing the dollar or power, but use their knowledge to better the plights of those with less. One of the greatest wounds our country has suffered was the SCOTUS decision on Citizens United, which put the power of our nation into the murky depths of shaping politics with unlimited money. And I will still blame those "Independents" who view politics at a distance without getting their souls scarred by fighting for their beliefs, and the lazy couch potatoes who enjoy the liberties and rewards of our nation while not even protecting its mores with their votes. One can only hope that the energy reawakened by having been pushed beyond reality can be maintained, and the pieces of our government put back together before it becomes to broken that their is no way to fix it.
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If your Senator or Representative spent the holiday hiding from the public, then they don't deserve to represent you in Congress.
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I agree.
Pat Toomey, one of my senators, seems to feel his term is long enough to insulate him. Or he just doesn't care.
Pat Toomey, one of my senators, seems to feel his term is long enough to insulate him. Or he just doesn't care.
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Gee when I go to a parade the last thing I want to see is a publicity seeking phony politician.
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Same with baseball games.
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not all of them are phony--maybe you should start voting for someone else.
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The correction to this article states that Rob Portman marched in two Fourth of July parades. How patriotic! Yet he hasn't held a town hall meeting with constituents in this part of the state in almost two years.
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Any senator not proposing singer payer national health insurance should hide their head in shame.
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Well the Republicans can't hide forever. We elected them and we can fire them too. Their healthcare bill smells bad and they would be wise to extend Medicare to the entire populace if they want to ace out Obamacare. Americans, Republican or Democrat, want single payer insurance like other civilized countries have. Health insurance is not a business commodity, it is a life-saver. Kiss the Koch brothers off. They have insurance. Now we want It!
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For those who cannot face their voters -- you are self-serving cowards. Remember that you work for us!
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Actually, they work for the Kochs and or Citizens United PACs.
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Maybe they took a lesson from Christie. They all went to the closed beach. And why, because they are senators, representatives and they are and we are not. And they can. And besides, why have to answer to a group of US citizens who may or may not have voted for them! I'm sure they sent their regrets. One simple word comes to mine. Coward. They know, they absolutely know they are going back to vote this hideous plan in for all our good?!?!
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It's amazing how well our democracy works when it is lubricated by greed rather than the will and needs of the people.
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This is both sad and infuriating to see adult Americans cowering before their civil servants because of - what exactly? Manners? When their lives are on the line? I think the ultimate in bad manners is to condemn millions of people to live without healthcare - and without their dignity, in the case of the disabled who can live outside of nursing homes, in their own homes, thanks to Medicaid - rather than being called out on their heartlessness. It is not impolite to remind your elected officials that they are actually supposed to look out for YOUR interest, not their own.
Yes, Edna, you should have quickly grown a tiny little spine and let your Senator Gardner know that you are highly displeased with his unconscionable empathy gab and unconcern for those who depend on his fair judgment, never mind the fact that he is an Elected Public Servant. And never mind his grandma in her wheelchair. Nobody is going to touch HER benefits, I assure you. Even if she lost her Medicare tomorrow, Senator Gardner's fat coffers you'all keep filling and refilling would maintain her life style without any hiccups whatsoever. (Somehow the same will not be the case for you and yours.)
Do not let the matter drop, all you Ednas out there. Is this why Republicans keep getting re-elected despite their track record of stabbing their constituents in the back?
Shame on all of you who keep quiet about this.
Yes, Edna, you should have quickly grown a tiny little spine and let your Senator Gardner know that you are highly displeased with his unconscionable empathy gab and unconcern for those who depend on his fair judgment, never mind the fact that he is an Elected Public Servant. And never mind his grandma in her wheelchair. Nobody is going to touch HER benefits, I assure you. Even if she lost her Medicare tomorrow, Senator Gardner's fat coffers you'all keep filling and refilling would maintain her life style without any hiccups whatsoever. (Somehow the same will not be the case for you and yours.)
Do not let the matter drop, all you Ednas out there. Is this why Republicans keep getting re-elected despite their track record of stabbing their constituents in the back?
Shame on all of you who keep quiet about this.
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If she doesn't want to confront him in public, she could still write him a letter, but she probably won't do that either.
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It's terrific that Senator Collins is apposed to gutting Obama care. It's not so great that Maine, with a population of about 1.3 million, a smaller population than my county, gets 2 senators. California has 2 senators and a population that approaches 40 million.
I have no idea how to fix it, but we are seriously out of whack regarding representation in the US senate.
I have no idea how to fix it, but we are seriously out of whack regarding representation in the US senate.
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Civics 101: have you ever heard of the House of Representatives? The whole point of the Senate is that every state has the same number of Senators.
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There's this thing called the House of Representatives.
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Michael H.
But your state has more representation in the House than smaller states.
But your state has more representation in the House than smaller states.
The sad reality is that many of our elected officials only want to listen to those who write very large value checks.
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You tube launched Justi Beiber , and it may help save us from check writers and Faux News .....
example: Paul Ryan was elected by a 30 points.
But he should be nervous (and I think he is based on the negative propaganda his machine just starting pumping out)
A guy named Randy Bryce (iron worker, single dad, helps his mom who has MS) is rolling up his blue sleeves and taking on the professional politician (as in 20 years on the govt, payroll) - Paul Ryan
Courtesy of You tube.
'Check it out !
example: Paul Ryan was elected by a 30 points.
But he should be nervous (and I think he is based on the negative propaganda his machine just starting pumping out)
A guy named Randy Bryce (iron worker, single dad, helps his mom who has MS) is rolling up his blue sleeves and taking on the professional politician (as in 20 years on the govt, payroll) - Paul Ryan
Courtesy of You tube.
'Check it out !
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Republican agenda appears to be ...
Tax cuts for the wealthy by reducing government regulation on their businesses.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by reducing health care coverage.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by reducing government services.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by changing the tax code.
Who keeps Republican Senators and Congressmen in office? Their actual constituency, not the unwealthy simpleton voter.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by reducing government regulation on their businesses.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by reducing health care coverage.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by reducing government services.
Tax cuts for the wealthy by changing the tax code.
Who keeps Republican Senators and Congressmen in office? Their actual constituency, not the unwealthy simpleton voter.
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dyeus. Thank you for statement. You are 100% correct. So what's left to do? Vote them out of office. We need single payer insurance like civilized countries have. Time the government represent the people and not the health insurance companies or cheating drug companies.
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Pure cowardice from them. I'm not in the least surprised. Can't wait until the next election which those members of Congress must be dreading.
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I don't think Republican members of congress fear the next election at all. When you run on racial bias, what you actually do is unimportant. The base is going to say, "Minorities made Trump do it to stop cheating."
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Profiles in cowardice. These GOP members of Congress are only willing to meet with donors and Rotary Clubs.
No exposure to ordinary constituents.
Maybe there's a lesson here? If you're afraid of your constituents than you're doing something wrong. If you can't explain your votes to the people you represent than you shouldn't be representing them anymore. Resign your office and try your hand at lobbying. It's more honest work than the fraud you've been perpetrating on the American people.
No exposure to ordinary constituents.
Maybe there's a lesson here? If you're afraid of your constituents than you're doing something wrong. If you can't explain your votes to the people you represent than you shouldn't be representing them anymore. Resign your office and try your hand at lobbying. It's more honest work than the fraud you've been perpetrating on the American people.
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These Republican legislators are nothing but Snowflakes. It's simply amazing that they can avoid having to deal directly with the very people FOR whom they're working!
Have we all forgotten that they work for us?
Have we all forgotten that they work for us?
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Well, the reason I have forgotten that they work for us is because they don't. They work for the large corporations and the very wealthy. That isn't "us," or at least not 95% of us.
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Yes. Cowardice, pure and simple.
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Profiles in Republican cowardice, corruption and cravenness.
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I greatly admire Susan Collins, but she also needs to listen to the middle class that have been just hammered by this law.
Premiums of $1300 a month with sky high deductibles. This law is unaffordable and is literally not worth salvaging.
Health care is about health care ... NOT insurance.
Premiums of $1300 a month with sky high deductibles. This law is unaffordable and is literally not worth salvaging.
Health care is about health care ... NOT insurance.
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Single-payer.
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Yes, we don't hear that often enough. What is touted as a health care bill is really an insurance bill.
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Doesn't look like that would improve under the GOP plans. Health care is expensive in our country, so even subsidized health insurance is expensive. If we could get beyond the "repeal and replace" obsessions we could work on fixing the problems with the ACA and looking for other ways to bring health care costs and insurance premiums down.
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The GOP is un-American, plain and simple. Studiously peddling a platform of lies. Check. Proposing serious injury to large swaths of the public. Check. Ignoring deficits and fiscal responsibility. Check. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Check.
Protests at parades are fleeting. The GOP brand must become permanently synonymous with "un-American."
Protests at parades are fleeting. The GOP brand must become permanently synonymous with "un-American."
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It's hard to admit that you're supporting WealthCare instead of HealthCare.
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"Republicans skipped their local parades this year because of the potential hostile reactions over their efforts to repeal the Affordable Care act."
Wouldn't you think the republicans would get the message that he majority of Americans, the poor and middle class, are absolutely displeased with them and their party and leaders?
But I guess tax cuts for the wealthy over rule anything else in the republican mind. But the citizens will remember this republican mess at next years elections.
Wouldn't you think the republicans would get the message that he majority of Americans, the poor and middle class, are absolutely displeased with them and their party and leaders?
But I guess tax cuts for the wealthy over rule anything else in the republican mind. But the citizens will remember this republican mess at next years elections.
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Somebody voted these people in, and keep them in office. They obviously do not feel threatened with being un-elected, but do feel it is an annoyance to deal with people who don't like what they do and will vote against them. They would rather hide and just get re-elected than represent ALL the voters in their constituencies.
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Unless they distract everyone with some more offensive tweets or, God help us, a war with North Korea.
That's why Mitch met in secret to draft the Senate version of AHCA. It's a Bill conceived in bad faith.
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Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. The Republicans are doing exactly what they said they would do. So why are they now surprised? Because Trump's going through with his promise? Because the GOP is backing up the policies that they've been waiting to input for the past 8 years? They voted for him, for his politics, for his ideas, for his promises, for his tweets. They voted for those representatives who clearly said they would repeal Obamacare. They've hated the ACA because Obama's name is on its face. So am I supposed to feel any sympathy for them when their ignorant votes now have a chance of negatively affecting my family and hurting those around me? No.
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trump clearly stated he would not touch Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. This bill will decimate Medicaid and put Medicare in worse financial condition.
trump is a proven pathological liar.
trump is a proven pathological liar.
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These representatives are nothing more than shifty politicos. They're happy to represent their constituents on issues that are emotional in substance and don't affect the pocket books of the people who actually put them into office, such as issues related to immigration, religion, gun control, and a hawkish foreign policy, while on economic issues they're happy to legislate as high-minded trustees, voting against the direct interests of a majority of their constituents. When the disjunct becomes too obvious, they go into hiding. Or they go to the beach.
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Question for the NYTimes:
"Last week, wheelchair-bound constituents occupied his office for 60 hours in protest of cuts proposed in the health bill, before being dragged out by the police."
Were they "dragged out"? Or were they removed.
It is implied that this was a violent confrontation with the police where they "dragged out" the protestors.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/29/cory-gardner-office-protest-removal/
Evidence?
I agree with the protestors motives.
I disagree with your mischaracterization of the event.
"Last week, wheelchair-bound constituents occupied his office for 60 hours in protest of cuts proposed in the health bill, before being dragged out by the police."
Were they "dragged out"? Or were they removed.
It is implied that this was a violent confrontation with the police where they "dragged out" the protestors.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/29/cory-gardner-office-protest-removal/
Evidence?
I agree with the protestors motives.
I disagree with your mischaracterization of the event.
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Were you there?
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I think the phrase "dragged out" clearly implies that the protesters employed passive resistance. I saw a video showing passive resistance.
No, of course not.
But I looked for evidence from the Denver Post article, which contained many phone videos and descriptions.
They also used the term "removed".
Were you there?
But I looked for evidence from the Denver Post article, which contained many phone videos and descriptions.
They also used the term "removed".
Were you there?
As so many people have observed this Senate Bill is nothing more than a tax cut of ONE TRILLION Dollars for the rich at the expense of the poor as firstly the tax cuts contained in the bill plus the budget surplus which will be used to offset further tax cuts in the Republicans tax reform .
This is the bottom line and should be rammed down the throat of every Senator and Republican who supports this obscene action.
The proposals do nothing to reduce the intrinsic costs of health care, by taking away the billion dollars from the poor it reduces their ability to drive growth by consumer spending . Then of course it puts at risk the lives of millions.
Disgusting, depraved , diabolical no wonder the Senators are cowering or hiding
This is the bottom line and should be rammed down the throat of every Senator and Republican who supports this obscene action.
The proposals do nothing to reduce the intrinsic costs of health care, by taking away the billion dollars from the poor it reduces their ability to drive growth by consumer spending . Then of course it puts at risk the lives of millions.
Disgusting, depraved , diabolical no wonder the Senators are cowering or hiding
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Cowardly thieves, hiding because they know they're stealing.
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Cowards and hypocrites. There are no other words necessary to describe them.
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So, a representative's position on an issue (health care legislation) is anathema to large numbers of constituents.
In fact, the representative's position is so toxic to many of his/her constituents that the representative ceases making public appearances.
Here's a thought:
Perhaps it is time for those representatives to reassess their positions on said issue.
In fact, the representative's position is so toxic to many of his/her constituents that the representative ceases making public appearances.
Here's a thought:
Perhaps it is time for those representatives to reassess their positions on said issue.
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Perhaps it's time for constituents to reassess their choice for representatives.
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An even better alternative would be for their constituents to reassess THEIR position on their representative, and vote that person out of office.
A pipe-dream, I know.
A pipe-dream, I know.
It's everyone's right to protest and confront their representatives. All republicans ran on repeal some later on replace but repeal of Obamacare was first. Healthcare is not a right no matter what the left tries to do and spin it as such it is a precious commodity that should be cared for, protected from abuse and misuse. Earning your healthcare if you are able bodied is a responsibility of the individual not a government entitlement. We are an entitlement nation with no sense of drive or responsibility, just let the government pay for it, or in other words the taxpayer, your friends and neighbors are the taxpayer. When depersonalize it it's easier to sell, the government will pay for it, not your neighbor or the tried and true it's for the children or common good. Then we should give everyone a car, guaranteed income, food, phones etc. Oh wait we do most of that already that's why they vote for democrats.
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What a silly and backward looking rant. I suppose you'd do away with social security for your parents as well.
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So your point is, when I correct your grammatical errors and sift through your long-winded points, that protesting and confronting your representative is a right, but living is not a right? That you have to "earn your healthcare? I sincerely hope that you experience, at some point in your sheltered and privileged life, what it's like to live on a minimum wage with two jobs, barely making ends' meet on 2-3 hours of sleep and being told by some white man in a suit who's never lived a day dirtying his hands, that you need to "earn your healthcare," that you should just buy one less iphone! It's people like you who need to stop reproducing. Seriously.
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"Healthcare is not a right no matter what the left says."
Rights are defined by humans – – they are not a feature of natural law. Thus, healthcare becomes a right if we define it as such.
Rights are defined by humans – – they are not a feature of natural law. Thus, healthcare becomes a right if we define it as such.
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The reason Democrats stood in angry town halls and defended the ACA is they believed in it and its morality. The reason Conservatives are cowards in the same town halls is Trumpcare is not healthcare and they know it. It is a tax plan that transfers $1 trillion dollars from healthcare to the pockets of the corporate 1%. Have conservatives ever been on the right side of history? In any case from coal debris to, meals on wheels, to travel bans, to healthcare Republicans are monsters.
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Also, they knew what they intended to do with it, and could explain how it would work. The GOP don't dare do that.
The Republican senators lack the courage of their convictions. They are cowards. They know it is wrong to leave millions of people in America with no way to pay for health care and there is just no argument to support it so they hide from their constituents. Do they think we are all stupid? Money is truly the root of all evil.
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"Do they think we are all stupid?"
No--they KNOW we are stupid, since we keep voting for them
No--they KNOW we are stupid, since we keep voting for them
i don't vote for the g.o.p.
Running from problems is not a solution to any problem. Cowards all!
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Back in the 1970's my mother and I went to a town hall where Jim Sensenbrenner (Republican Rep. in Wisconsin) appeared and my mother asked him a question about whatever was the topic of the day at that time. He proceeded to "bob and weave"and bloviate and avoid an answer and my mother kept interrupting him by saying "You are not answering my question." Pretty soon the entire town hall was yelling at him "Answer the woman's question!!" He just shrugged it off and went on with his bloviating. My mother and I walked out of the town hall. This guy is still representing Wisconsin. I blame the voters. They keep voting for people like this.
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Canada seems like a great place to move to right about now!
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Steve--I could easily be talked into it. Not sure Canada wants us.
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Yes. It is still summer.
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qed--
Pretty soon, it will be summer all the time.
Pretty soon, it will be summer all the time.
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I think this sudden love for the ACA is strange and i am skeptical. Is this the same law that is raising costs on insurance and companies who have to pay more taxes? It has far underachieved its goals of coverage and has done nothing to reduce prescription drug costs? What is the attraction of that bill? If the expansion of Medicaid is the only benefit, then wouldn't it be simpler to repeal the rest of the ACA and have a simple debate on Medicaid expansion?
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You have reached the correct solution! The answer is Medicare for all. Done.
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Swami, you are too gullible by half. The supposed failure of the ACA is fixable but Republicans are doing everything they can to withdraw federal funds and thus make it more expensive. That's the part the Rs don't talk about.
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And a good part of the problem right now is uncertainty. Markets of all kinds HATE uncertainty. The government has receded the tax on those who choose not to have insurance which was to be used to help fund the ACA. The government has started to stop payment on the subsidies. Republicans are taking steps to force "the failure" of the ACA so they can say "Told ya so".
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"Helpless." That's what the billionaire oligarchs and their stooge politicians and paid, fake-news journalists want us to feel. The health care bill is a tax cut bill for the rich. If the Senate and House cause this to happen, it's another big step toward a USA without true democracy for all.
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Are you referring to the billionaire oligarchs like Buffet, Gates, Bloomberg, Cuban, Steyer and so on who supported H. Clinton? Are you against tax cuts for the crowd in Silicone Valley, Hollyweed, the Hamptons, Omaha, Martha's Vineyard and Wall Street who threw lavish fund raisers for H. Clinton? Do they make you feel "helpless" when they bash they bash the pretender president?
The difference, GLC, between the rich that you mentioned and the Kochs of the world is that Buffet, Gates, et al, don't try to change the lows so they can make even more money - they are content to work within the system. If their taxes were raised you wouldn't hear a peep out of them. Waltons, kochs, etc., scream bloody murder at every dime they have to contribute to live in a civilized society, and would spend millions lobbying to save every one of those dimes, no matter what it costs the rest of us. All of Buffets wealth, by the way, is being given away upon his death, which is the human thing to do. Your buddies want to kill the estate tax so that their children don't have to sacrifice a nickel of the BILLIONS that they will receive.
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They are willing to pay higher taxes for the betterment of society, the Kochs and other wealthy right wingers want the opposite.
Sen. Moran's Thursday town hall will be in Palco, Kansas, population 280. Repeal of Obamacare would hit the Rooks County Health Center (20 beds) in Plainville, the closest town with a hospital. Let's hope the local residents give him an earful. We have a minority government, where a Palco citizen has way more say than a citizen of New York or Los Angeles, and our only hope for decent healthcare policy is that our minority rulers exercise their powers responsibly.
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All smiles, front-and-center at election time, nowhere to be found once power is secure and the dirty work begins.
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Only when one of these persons will get seriously ill , will understand the meaning of having an affordable and accessible health insurance system .
This messy situation can be corrected only with single payer insurance , like in Canada .
No Canadian would switch to the chaotic , unfair and predatory US system .
This messy situation can be corrected only with single payer insurance , like in Canada .
No Canadian would switch to the chaotic , unfair and predatory US system .
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When any of these elected people get ill, they will have taxpayer funded health insurance to pay their bills. They see their health care and health insurance as a fundamental right.
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Maybe our congressmen would be more apt to attend town halls if they weren't just screaming sessions for liberals to spew their anger about anything the GOP does. Obamacare is a mess, something I as a physician deal with daily. It has to go, before it forces even more physicians to either quit, or commit suicide (we lost another MD last week at my local hospital). Physicians have the highest suicide rate of any white collar worker in the country, and the ACA has contributed to it mightily by denigrating doctors with useless regulations and 100 hour weeks.
Regardless of what you think of the GOP plan, if the current healthcare system doesn't change and dramatically, we will see a catastrophic shortage of physicians, and that will ultimately hurt more than having your Medicaid taken away.
Regardless of what you think of the GOP plan, if the current healthcare system doesn't change and dramatically, we will see a catastrophic shortage of physicians, and that will ultimately hurt more than having your Medicaid taken away.
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"Maybe our congressmen would be more apt to attend town halls if they weren't just screaming sessions for liberals to spew their anger about anything the GOP does."
they learned from the very best- the Tea Party and now the king of "telling it like it is"- agent orange. thanks for the tactical lessons.
they learned from the very best- the Tea Party and now the king of "telling it like it is"- agent orange. thanks for the tactical lessons.
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OK Doc, how about Universal Healthcare? I am sick of doctors who don't even read their patients charts. Don't even know if their patients are malnourished or if they have other ailments that need attending outside their own specialties, for which they receive a pretty penny, then stand up and say I am a Doctor, I know what is best for you even though I just did major surgery on you but don't know your name two seconds later. Compassion is what you need. Maybe some of these regulations are needed because your group can't be bothered otherwise.
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Yes. The real issue here isn't affordable access to health care for millions of people. It's making sure the egos of doctors are buffeted enough.
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Republicans are more comfortable behind closed doors and in their protected offices in Washington. Facing the music from the people they are supposed to represent turns them into scaredy-cats afraid of their own shadows.
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At the root of it all, Republicans are cowards.
They cower at the thought of failing to serve their wealthy patrons. They cower in anticipation of primary challenges. They cower at the prospect of facing their constituents.
Not a single one of 'em has any courage or strength of character. Not a single one of 'em places the good of their country and its people over their own self-serving interests.
Cowards!
They cower at the thought of failing to serve their wealthy patrons. They cower in anticipation of primary challenges. They cower at the prospect of facing their constituents.
Not a single one of 'em has any courage or strength of character. Not a single one of 'em places the good of their country and its people over their own self-serving interests.
Cowards!
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Afraid to face the people they are sworn to represent. GOP to America: DROP DEAD!
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Indeed, these are not "normal times."
We have a charismatic, racist sociopath at the helm. and an extremist ("mother-may-I" ) ideologue riding shotgun.The 'surrogates' and Junior Varsity WH press team twist themselves into pretzels in an unending series of lies lies lies.
Bannon, the bloated, mottled, self loathing anarchist, with zero credentials (oh, he was part owner of Seinfeld) and no government experience, pulls the geo-political strings of the feckless reckless Donald.
Thirteen old white men in a room are conspiring behind closed doors to take away the modicum of health care that the ACA put in place (for the same people who voted for them) Women are being shoved back where they belong - pregnant, like it or not, The State Dept (as in dialogue- diplomacy- world peace) is being intentionally dissembled..
Why do the Rs even need to go to a parade? Why bother? The same Faux News adoring white saps (who voted the race card - let's not kid each other) will vote for them again anyway.
And when the govt. subsidies they take for granted (per capita - whites use far more govt. 'hand-outs' than blacks) ,they will find a reason to blame "others" (as in Ds, blacks, refugees, intellectuals).
We have a charismatic, racist sociopath at the helm. and an extremist ("mother-may-I" ) ideologue riding shotgun.The 'surrogates' and Junior Varsity WH press team twist themselves into pretzels in an unending series of lies lies lies.
Bannon, the bloated, mottled, self loathing anarchist, with zero credentials (oh, he was part owner of Seinfeld) and no government experience, pulls the geo-political strings of the feckless reckless Donald.
Thirteen old white men in a room are conspiring behind closed doors to take away the modicum of health care that the ACA put in place (for the same people who voted for them) Women are being shoved back where they belong - pregnant, like it or not, The State Dept (as in dialogue- diplomacy- world peace) is being intentionally dissembled..
Why do the Rs even need to go to a parade? Why bother? The same Faux News adoring white saps (who voted the race card - let's not kid each other) will vote for them again anyway.
And when the govt. subsidies they take for granted (per capita - whites use far more govt. 'hand-outs' than blacks) ,they will find a reason to blame "others" (as in Ds, blacks, refugees, intellectuals).
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"And when the govt. subsidies they take for granted (per capita - whites use far more govt. 'hand-outs' than blacks) ,they will find a reason to blame "others" (as in Ds, blacks, refugees, intellectuals)"
Exactly - so much for the party of personal responsibility.
Exactly - so much for the party of personal responsibility.
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If I were a senator or representative in a representative democracy and found it uncomfortable to venture out publicly on the Fourth of July it would seem like time to rethink my position on healthcare. People do not want Trumpcare and are frightened that their wishes have gone astray. Single pay with expanded Medicare and we are done with this issue for a long time.
And our representatives can come out and enjoy the Fourth of July parade.
And our representatives can come out and enjoy the Fourth of July parade.
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No Senators Portman, Capito, Gardner or either from Iowa? Someone had to vote for them. I don't care.
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Cory Gardner: if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. You big coward.
You can't hide forever. Do (most) Republican senators care about their constituents at all, other than using the willing dupes to get them into office so they can look after their rich handlers? Is there any hope Republican voters will ever realize they've been hurt and their families have been hurt by the people they elect? Is blind patriotism really necessary?
You can't hide forever. Do (most) Republican senators care about their constituents at all, other than using the willing dupes to get them into office so they can look after their rich handlers? Is there any hope Republican voters will ever realize they've been hurt and their families have been hurt by the people they elect? Is blind patriotism really necessary?
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What are they afraid of? Perhaps it is time to listen to the people they serve, their constituents, and vote against this mess of a Senate bill. Time to show some backbone, Republications, and listen to the people instead of the party. Isn't that your job?
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One Word: Cowards!
These guys think they can hide and get away with it!
Arrogance fed by ignorance!
These guys think they can hide and get away with it!
Arrogance fed by ignorance!
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Yes they do. And they will get away with it.
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Wanna bet they get reelected?
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Come out of hiding Republicans! Tell us why your plans for health care are essential to the future of all Americans. Republicans are silent when asked about what will happen to the 20 million-plus Americans thrown off health plans under your proposals? What will happen to the rural hospitals? Why is it essential that the top 12,000 families in the U.S. get huge tax cuts tied to the end of Obamacare? Where is the courage Republican senators and House members showed in supporting the ideals and demands for freedom shown by the tea party movement during the Obama administration? Hear the voice of the people yet again. Let democracy reign, not only when it serves your proposes. The GOP members of the House in New York state, my state, are in hiding, unable to face the public concerned about the future of health care. Democracy is indeed messy. Defend your plan, Republicans.
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the tea party movement was backed by a lot of dark money. This movement to protect healthcare is backed by average people and is opposed by dark money. Who do you think is more important to republican politicians?
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Our two Republican Senators are cowards. They're hiding from the public. They won't even post anything on their own websites about health care. The only people they listen to give them big contributions.
15,000,000 are people dropping Obamacare.They want to use THEIR money for other necessities and desires.
REALITY: my democrat senators ducked the public in illinois too
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Perhaps if you called them your Democratic senators they would be polite in return.
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I can understand how it would be difficult to wave and shake the hands of people that trusted you with their vote hoping that you would represent them in Washington but in fact you are there to line your own pockets and screw them.
Wait, what I am I thinking. It would not be difficult at all for any Republican to do that – it has become their modus operandi.
Wait, what I am I thinking. It would not be difficult at all for any Republican to do that – it has become their modus operandi.
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If I refused to attend work events in order to avoid my boss, I'd get a very poor annual review.
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And yet they get re-elected time after time.
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If you're going to destroy our healthcare, lay a little lower. Try resigning.
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I know it feels hopeless, but that same attitude is what keeps people from voting as well. If more moderates and progressive voters had voted last November, we'd be. Enter off.
This won't be like fast food, where we voice our desires at a box and pick it up at a window a minute later. This is more like eating our veggies and whole grains; in the long run it will make us much more healthy as a nation.
This won't be like fast food, where we voice our desires at a box and pick it up at a window a minute later. This is more like eating our veggies and whole grains; in the long run it will make us much more healthy as a nation.
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Hello Student: Progressives and Moderates did turn out to vote in the last election. Then the outmoded Electoral College kicked in and disenfranchised the 3 million voters who did not vote for Trump. I agree with you that we all should push past any feelings of hopelessness and stand firm that nothing will stop us from voting. It is the duty of every real citizen to participate in government. Freedom only works if we do.
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Ted Cruz was spotted spending his 4th in our home town, Bend, Oregon. I guess that's better than facing the heat at home--in so many ways. I hope those who met him here explained that we have two fine senators who will fight for Oregon constituents. We're an awfully welcoming town, but I can't say too many were interested in extending that welcome to Cruz.
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He was there roundin' up the Malheur Wildlife refuge occupation vote.
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We need to speak up otherwise we are not sending the message and need to be loud and clear to the politicians in Washington.We have elect you to represent us and you failing us and we can not accept the health bill as is...Our lives depend on that vote...
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"What do you think about talking to senators?
'I feel like it wouldn’t really make a difference,'”
Well, you're not doing it right. In this country, it's 1 dollar 1 vote. You need to speak to them with either:
A. A check in your hand with a big campaign contribution, or
B. The backing of some group with big money that can run campaign ads for or against the politician next election.
'I feel like it wouldn’t really make a difference,'”
Well, you're not doing it right. In this country, it's 1 dollar 1 vote. You need to speak to them with either:
A. A check in your hand with a big campaign contribution, or
B. The backing of some group with big money that can run campaign ads for or against the politician next election.
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