I don't despise Trump for being a scoundrel as much as those who still support him knowing he's a scoundrel.
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The last thing I want is for Trump to be impeached because we'll be stuck with Pence, who is far worse. What I hope for is Trump to be defanged for the remainder of his term and that can only com when one party rule ends.
Then I hope that enough voters decide to repudiate rigid ideology and partisanship in favor of electing people who actually want to improve conditions in the US for all of its citizens, not special interests.
Then I hope that enough voters decide to repudiate rigid ideology and partisanship in favor of electing people who actually want to improve conditions in the US for all of its citizens, not special interests.
You know this Russian affair is really quite hilarious. Our political parties have been trying to figure out how to win elections in this country for 200 plus years and now we are told that the Russians know how to throw one of our elections to the guy they favor without meddling with the ballot boxes or the vote count in any state. So what did they actually do besides hacking into some Democratic Party computers and dumping some slightly embarrassing emails? Did they somehow manage to persuade all the illegal aliens that wanted to vote to go to California and do it there where their votes would be wasted? Or did they maybe fill the airwaves and the internet with some false and nasty propaganda about Hillary? Did they maybe instruct Trump to call Hillary a crook? But did Trump or anyone else say anything derogatory about Hillary during the campaign that wasn't true? Was Comey's "indictment" of Hillary false. Was Comey a Russian stooge? How was it even possible for a Trump associate to think that the Russians could somehow do for Trump what Trump couldn't do for himself and therefore worth colluding with?
It is as Trump says and knows a witch hunt and so the best strategy for him is to ignore it and let it run its course. Sooner or later Mr. Mueller will have to tell us that the FBI doesn't have anything and then the Times and the Dems will have egg all over their faces. And concentrate on doing his job without any help from the Dems.
It is as Trump says and knows a witch hunt and so the best strategy for him is to ignore it and let it run its course. Sooner or later Mr. Mueller will have to tell us that the FBI doesn't have anything and then the Times and the Dems will have egg all over their faces. And concentrate on doing his job without any help from the Dems.
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Everything has to go through Rosenstein. That troubles me.
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The Democrats and the Establishment will live to regret this.
When you attack the king, you must kill him or you will live to regret it.
There is no way Trump will be impeached and removed from office.
Which means that he will have all the powers of the Presidency.
His veto pen can only be overridden by two-thirds of the house and senate.
When you attack the king, you must kill him or you will live to regret it.
There is no way Trump will be impeached and removed from office.
Which means that he will have all the powers of the Presidency.
His veto pen can only be overridden by two-thirds of the house and senate.
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We need a true patriot right now. No doubt this is the man.
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Robert Mueller, as George W Bush's FBI director, sat back and allowed Bush to defraud the American people about a Iraq WMD, resulting in tens and thousands of dead and mangled Americans and Iraqis.
Where was Mueller when his country, people, and the Constitution most needed him?
Nowhere, silent, complicit.
Where was Mueller when his country, people, and the Constitution most needed him?
Nowhere, silent, complicit.
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You seem to be confusing the FBI with the CIA.
I went from mild euphoria back to strong nausea and painful prescience of the inevitability of truly unpresidented bad things to come, over the course of mere hours, topped with a big hangover from having been so stupidly naive to take the sterling reputation blabla at face instead of at farce value.
As of yesterday Mueller was still a partner in the law firm that represents Manafort, Jared and Ivanka. That constitutes a total no-go for even being considered for the job and means he should have recused himself. He'll be highly likely protecting Kushner and his father-in-law.
Then I had to digest the comment picks on Mueller's past record by Wreckluse from New Jersey and Fran Soyer from Georgia, after which things got worse when D. Alexander from Michigan weighed in.
So the scam and the cover-up of Trump's worst hidden shell company connections is quasi a sure thing now to never be brought to the daylight, we must all assume. It's going to be a GOP inside job.
I'm also very pessimistic on the elections to come. The GOP has the voter suppression instrument that they are hellbent on stepping up in scope and perversion. They have the hate media megaphone and all the local TV networks to create a dense screen of dumbing down. Law and order has a walkover since 911 and the Isis monster the GOP breeded with the ill-fated Iraq War. They know perfectly well how to abuse that as a front and facade behind which they hide their all-out one percenter attack on everything we still own.
As of yesterday Mueller was still a partner in the law firm that represents Manafort, Jared and Ivanka. That constitutes a total no-go for even being considered for the job and means he should have recused himself. He'll be highly likely protecting Kushner and his father-in-law.
Then I had to digest the comment picks on Mueller's past record by Wreckluse from New Jersey and Fran Soyer from Georgia, after which things got worse when D. Alexander from Michigan weighed in.
So the scam and the cover-up of Trump's worst hidden shell company connections is quasi a sure thing now to never be brought to the daylight, we must all assume. It's going to be a GOP inside job.
I'm also very pessimistic on the elections to come. The GOP has the voter suppression instrument that they are hellbent on stepping up in scope and perversion. They have the hate media megaphone and all the local TV networks to create a dense screen of dumbing down. Law and order has a walkover since 911 and the Isis monster the GOP breeded with the ill-fated Iraq War. They know perfectly well how to abuse that as a front and facade behind which they hide their all-out one percenter attack on everything we still own.
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Three cheers for the editorial board of the New York Times! The editorial writers have repeatedly, persuasively and forcefully argued for the appointment of a special prosecutor in the face of GOP intransigence and stonewalling. The Times also took the extraordinary step of personally urging Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein to do the right thing and reminded him what was at stake. I was stunned when Rosenstein actually stood up to the president. Surely Mr. Rosenstein read that NY Times editorial that put him on notice, and let him know the world was watching.
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OhMyGawd - a strong inquiry???
More to the point - will it be...
Just, fair, equitable, diverse, inclusive, copacetic, and 3dimensional...
Not necessarily in that order...
Though - such things matter, in the commentasphere...
More to the point - will it be...
Just, fair, equitable, diverse, inclusive, copacetic, and 3dimensional...
Not necessarily in that order...
Though - such things matter, in the commentasphere...
Rob Rosenstien has saved our democracy. Finally some good news for America. Our system of government - which we've try to set up to protect under all kinds of threats has taken a step to insure a thorough, fair investigation separate from the partisan problems our nation is having. The creation of our constitution, separation of powers and abiding by the rule of law has yeilded this outcome where we can feel truth can be found.
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It's encouraging to know that The NY Times thinks highly of Mueller. We'll see how that changes if the investigation finds no collusion with Russia. Given the 180 degree spin on their opinion of James Comey, I'd say any admiration for Muller is based on a desired result.
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It is ironic that what is happening to President Trump seems exactly similar to what he has reportedly done to many others.
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Kudos re: the appointment of the special counsel. Perhaps the government can now get down to its business and the investigation to the facts and see where the chips may (or may not) fall. I'm sure Republicans in the House and Senate can now take a deep breath. Perhaps this will give the White House a reboot to get their act together.
Why? Trump can fire this one too..
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No. He can't. Read the story.
A special counsel does not serve the pleasure of the president.
A special counsel does not serve the pleasure of the president.
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trump has been a fool to have done the firings he has already done...He would be totally deranged to attempt to have Rosenstein fire Mueller. If he has a shred of intelligence, (doubtful) he would keep a very low profile, and keep his mouth shut, and not attempt to interfere. As it is, his actions have alerted us that he behaves like someone who has something to hide, and is trying, at all costs, to cover it up. Otherwise he wouldn't be firing people who have been looking into his behavior, and he wouldn't continue to try to convince everyone that there was "no collusion."
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I believe that trump can ask Rosenstein to fire Mueller. (?) I believe Richard Nixon also tried, or did have fired the special prosecutor in his case. (?) But I do not think that the president can make this decision unilaterally.
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"If President Trump thought that ..."
This editorial leads off with circular reasoning. Do you have evidence what Trump really thought ?
Follow the typical liberal circular reasoning in the media nowadays :
"Trump is a DESPOT .. because he had two scoops of ice cream."
"Trump is GUILTY .. of walking around the W.H in a bathrobe."
"Trump is LAZY .. because he does not type more than 140 letters."
They know their crowd reads only the first part and jumps to conclusions. It's no surprise why Trump has them running around in circles.
This editorial leads off with circular reasoning. Do you have evidence what Trump really thought ?
Follow the typical liberal circular reasoning in the media nowadays :
"Trump is a DESPOT .. because he had two scoops of ice cream."
"Trump is GUILTY .. of walking around the W.H in a bathrobe."
"Trump is LAZY .. because he does not type more than 140 letters."
They know their crowd reads only the first part and jumps to conclusions. It's no surprise why Trump has them running around in circles.
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trump, indeed, has so many people running around in circles...including himself. And when you are dishonest and corrupt, it is very difficult NOT to be running around like a chicken with its' head cut off. When you are CONSTANTLY LYING (that is pathological lying), it is very difficult to remember what you told to whom, when you told it to them, why you told it to them, or even if you told them THAT, or maybe you told them SOMETHING ELSE, and if perhaps you need to change the story now, or make up a totally different story, or maybe you told the story to someone else, but you have forgotten who...makes the liar run around in circles. Probably doesn't get much sleep either.
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The Republicans are fine with impeaching Trump. Then they'll have their boy Pence in control.
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So, if the Democrats get what they're looking for then we may be looking at the resignation of Trump and Pence, leaving Paul Ryan as POTUS.
Be careful what you wish for.
Be careful what you wish for.
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They ALL need to go. They are no good for the American people. NO ONE should be president whose goal it is to make sure that about 24 million people (including kids) will go without health care so that already enormously wealthy people can get tax cuts...all the while lying to these same people, and telling them it is going to be the best, greatest, most beautiful, most affordable health insurance ever. NO ONE should be president who doesn't give a damn about our environment. NO ONE should be president who doesn't have the back of all law-abiding and decent American citizens. We need governance with compassion, decency, morality, integrity, and character. We need someone who believes that since his or her salary is paid by the American people, that he or she is a PUBLIC SERVANT...not an entitled, elitist, cruel, lying crook. That doesn't sound like ryan. (Public servant doesn't sound like ryan, however, entitled, elitist, cruel, lying crook does.)
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Why would Pence resign? He's not accused of doing anything.
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"America" doesn't need a special councel. You do. This will allow you to continue for the next year, at least, with your smear campaign against the President of the United States, and your never substantiated innuendo of some "collusion" with the Russians. Now, your reporters can twist every word the special council says, and infer all sorts of nefarious things to fit your narrative - just as you have been doing since last year. You'll sell all sorts of copy as the "plot thickens!" - just as you will vigorously stir it, turn up the heat, and stir in some extra flour - just to make sure it does.
We're all looking forward to ever more outrageous hype of this Clinton campaign smear to cover her own incompetency as a candidate, and your own role in contributing to her loss. I thought this kind of thing was confined to the tabloids - but I guess I was wrong. What is next from your editorial staff? Space aliens interfered with our election? I wouldn't doubt it! (If I have just contributed to your next big scoop, I trust I will be fairly compensated? - but I won't hang by my thumbs waiting!)
We're all looking forward to ever more outrageous hype of this Clinton campaign smear to cover her own incompetency as a candidate, and your own role in contributing to her loss. I thought this kind of thing was confined to the tabloids - but I guess I was wrong. What is next from your editorial staff? Space aliens interfered with our election? I wouldn't doubt it! (If I have just contributed to your next big scoop, I trust I will be fairly compensated? - but I won't hang by my thumbs waiting!)
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It is Trump's words --spoken and tweeted -- that have gotten him into this mess. NYT is just reporting on what he says and does. The stories don't come from nowhere. They originate with the man himself.
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America DOES "need" a special counsel -- actually a special prosecutor, whose powers are much broader and who has much more independence -- but I'm not so sure Mueller is WHO we need.
Worked for Dick Thornburgh, well-liked by John Ashcroft, and an original Bush II appointee at FBI... Too many ties to Republicans, the political establishment, and former (Republican) Justice Dept officials with questionable objectivity and accomplishments.
The nation NEEDS an investigator like Archibald Cox -- NOT part of the political establishment and someone of clear independence -- perhaps someone like Preet Bharara or Sally Yates?
Worked for Dick Thornburgh, well-liked by John Ashcroft, and an original Bush II appointee at FBI... Too many ties to Republicans, the political establishment, and former (Republican) Justice Dept officials with questionable objectivity and accomplishments.
The nation NEEDS an investigator like Archibald Cox -- NOT part of the political establishment and someone of clear independence -- perhaps someone like Preet Bharara or Sally Yates?
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Preet Bharara, Sally Yates, and Jim Comey all would have all been stellar...which is why they were all fired by trump!
Comey was trump's boy when he handed trump the presidency on a silver platter, and passed judgment (which he should not have) on Hillary Clinton. But when trump realized that Comey could not be the malleable, corrupt tool that trump was trying to turn him into...Bye-bye Comey. Comey made mistakes, but he is no stooge, nor is he a dishonorable man.
Comey was trump's boy when he handed trump the presidency on a silver platter, and passed judgment (which he should not have) on Hillary Clinton. But when trump realized that Comey could not be the malleable, corrupt tool that trump was trying to turn him into...Bye-bye Comey. Comey made mistakes, but he is no stooge, nor is he a dishonorable man.
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You mean someone that has a personal beef with Trump. That would be fair...
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I immigrated to the USA 40 years ago from India. Now Trump and the Republican Party has managed to bring America down to the level of corruption where India was 40 years ago. If we do not remove Trump from the office then we will catch up with the most corrupt countries in the world.
Bob Mueller has huse responsibility on his shoulders. Good luck Mr Mueller.
Bob Mueller has huse responsibility on his shoulders. Good luck Mr Mueller.
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Donald Trump fears the truth. Why? Because, while the truth can set one free, it's starting to become evident the truth about Donald Trump and his relationship with Vladimir Putin may lead to Trump's Impeachment at the very least, and possibly a prison sentence.
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He has nobody to blame but himself.
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In reference to John Yoo's opinion piece today..is this not the man who authored one of the notorious "torture memos" authorizing "enhanced interrogation " techniques after 9-11? If so , strange that this paper would give him such an auspicious platform.
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I agree with many of the posts here hoping DJT will resign but that is a bigger ask than impeachment in my view.
At least Mueller will be able to craft a position to bring charges (on something) implicating DJT but I do not think he will resign. In DJT's own twisted mind he believes he has done nothing wrong I am sure. So why resign?
Impeachment through formal, well documented means will end DJT.
This administration has no and I mean zero chance of passing any legislation while this investigation carries on. No wall, no immigration reform, no tax reform.... no healthcare reform.
Welcome to a GOP lead government!!!!!
At least Mueller will be able to craft a position to bring charges (on something) implicating DJT but I do not think he will resign. In DJT's own twisted mind he believes he has done nothing wrong I am sure. So why resign?
Impeachment through formal, well documented means will end DJT.
This administration has no and I mean zero chance of passing any legislation while this investigation carries on. No wall, no immigration reform, no tax reform.... no healthcare reform.
Welcome to a GOP lead government!!!!!
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"At least Mueller will be able to craft a position to bring charges (on something) implicating DJT". Melvin, this statement means you don't have a clue of a specific action that the President has done that is illegal or impeachable. Since you didn't want him to be president in the first place you're just hoping that if Mueller looks long enough and hard enough that he'll find something... Anything of which to accuse the President. That is a sad partisan misuse of the Special Investigator statute, and a sad disrespect to your fellow citizens that exercised their Constitutional right to vote and elect the president of their choice.
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Ah...conviction before an indictment is even drawn.
Brilliant.
Sounds like a dictatorship of the liberals, by the liberals, and for the liberals that it is that you are desiring.
Repnah...That is reprehensible.
Brilliant.
Sounds like a dictatorship of the liberals, by the liberals, and for the liberals that it is that you are desiring.
Repnah...That is reprehensible.
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It is assumed that by firing Preet Bharara, Sally Yates, and James Comey that trump has something to hide, and is trying to cover it up. He is madly trying to get rid of anyone who was getting close to connecting the dots. Have no worries: No conviction before an indictment is drawn. While the republicans are trying to obfuscate, the rest of the U.S. is concerned with the truth. Now: when someone behaves like a sneaky lunatic, and lies constantly...it raises concern amongst normal people of integrity who SERVE in our government. Note that some people who work in government do SERVE the public, while others lie, cheat, steal, (from 99% of Americans) and in order to do those reprehensible things, they have to harm and lie to the American public. If these kinds of behaviors are not illegal, they should be. They are certainly unethical, immoral, corrupt, and disgusting. Then: pence comes out and says something that trump told him to say, and trump contradicts him, and says that it is not true. spicer comes out and says something that trump told him to say, and trump contradicts him, and says that it is not true. trump is not only a liar, but he makes his staff look like liars...and imbeciles. -- Sadly, there is nothing "brilliant" going on here. What is going on here is vile and nauseating, and it has been brought to this juncture by none other than trump and the republicans. Our government should not lie to us. Our government should not do things to try and harm us.
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My first thoughts this week (I'm only in my 30's but I'm a history buff) have been "Didn't it take Richard Nixon 5 or 6 years to get to this point?"
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Nixon was an adult.
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Not sure what you mean, but Watergate started in June 1972. Achibald Cox was appointed special prosecutor in May 1973; congressional hearings began in 1973 and continued into 1974. When it was clear a vote on impeachment was coming, Nixon resigned in August 1974.
It took the Nixon administration two years to totally collapse.
It took the Nixon administration two years to totally collapse.
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I suppose it won't be too long before Robert Mueller a man of impeccable integrity, will be on the receiving end of Donald Trump's animus by way of his inane tweeting.
What will be interesting as an outside observer, when you compare the integrity of Robert Mueller and Donald Trump, it's not even close as to Robert Mueller being beyond reproach; in that comparison Donald Trump comes off like a two-bit carny huckster.
What will be interesting as an outside observer, when you compare the integrity of Robert Mueller and Donald Trump, it's not even close as to Robert Mueller being beyond reproach; in that comparison Donald Trump comes off like a two-bit carny huckster.
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Expect that he is going to be on the receiving end of scathing, viscous comments from the left about bias before he even gets started.
If you read some of the more rabid liberal megaphones, that criticism has already started.
Given the subject matter, I would expect that the only person that the left would support as special prosecutor would be Harry Reid or Chuck Schumer.
The witch trials as Salem would be fairer.
If you read some of the more rabid liberal megaphones, that criticism has already started.
Given the subject matter, I would expect that the only person that the left would support as special prosecutor would be Harry Reid or Chuck Schumer.
The witch trials as Salem would be fairer.
This whole episode is a farce. Trump is an incompetent self promoter, the establishment media is hopelessly biased against him, the democratic leadership are a bunch of demigods and the FBI is hopelessly slow. The whole Washington in crowd is indeed a swamp that needs to be drained.
Let the American people decide by immunizing everyone and
1) Declassify and air publicly the complete text of the meeting between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador. What was said between a transitional employee and a Russian ambassador should have no current impact on national security.
2) Puplicly disclose the specific "meddling " that was done by the Russians that impacted our election. Beyond wiki leaks I personally missed the rest.
3) publicly reveal what impact the unmasking had on the charges being investigated I.e. How many of the investigations were prompted by the wide spread dissemination of NSA, CIA,etc. Information.
Get on with this I can't stand to have the rest of the world laughing at the US.
Let the American people decide by immunizing everyone and
1) Declassify and air publicly the complete text of the meeting between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador. What was said between a transitional employee and a Russian ambassador should have no current impact on national security.
2) Puplicly disclose the specific "meddling " that was done by the Russians that impacted our election. Beyond wiki leaks I personally missed the rest.
3) publicly reveal what impact the unmasking had on the charges being investigated I.e. How many of the investigations were prompted by the wide spread dissemination of NSA, CIA,etc. Information.
Get on with this I can't stand to have the rest of the world laughing at the US.
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I agree it is bad to have the rest of the world laughing at us, but for me, far worse is having our own president, and our own congress laughing at us, because they are creating legislation that will SICKEN AND KILL many of us, and as they do it, they are lying to us, and telling us that they are doing something great, beautiful, and affordable for us. By doing this, they treat us like so many fools, so much garbage, and as inconvenient, pesky, costly impediments to their agenda for themselves and the very wealthy. (P.S. President Obama...I miss you very much, and I appreciate you.)
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NO doubt the odds makers in Vegas are making odds to see if and or when Mr. Mueller is fired by the POTUS from this post sometime in the not so distant future. It is evident that he can do so. Since he, Trump, is known by many for his brazen behavior. Would that surprise anyone.? Then what?!?!?!
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Carl: If he does that, then he either goes to a mental institution or a prison. Maybe he can be in prison during the week, and then fly to the mental institution on the weekends.
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Only Rosenstein can fire Mueller, which is doubtful.
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Reply to EMS:
Only if the mental institution has a golf course. Of course there are those kinds of places available for $$$$$.
Only if the mental institution has a golf course. Of course there are those kinds of places available for $$$$$.
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Rod Rosenstein still remains damaged goods after he wrote that memo to denounce Comey on orders from Trump, very much like what people used to do in Russia condemning each other for fear of Stalin. Rosenstein denouncing Comey was an act of cowardice.
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Yes, but a partner in law firm that represents Paul Manafort, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner.
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And yet people are defending this as if it's no big deal.
Imagine if Bill Clinton's special prosecutor came from the Rose Law Firm ?
Imagine if Bill Clinton's special prosecutor came from the Rose Law Firm ?
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Just 4 months into the Presidency and here we are talking about what appears to be a long drawn enquiry into possible collusion and numerous ancillary revelations that are sure to surface over the next several months and possibly into the better part of the Presidential Term. Honestly, is it really worth the trouble for the entire Nation (and rest of the world watching this play out) to go through this ordeal?. In the collective interest of the Country and its future, it is time for Mr. 45 to resign. Let's put this despicable election cycle behind us and hope saner minds prevail to bring the Country back on track. Mr. 45 brags about his CEO experience. Any corporation that would want to focus and continue in business would have fired the CEO with such a tarnished record: perception is reality. The perception is Mr. 45 has a tarnished record. Simple advise to Mr. 45 from a concerned citizen: You have made your billions. Move on, enjoy your wealth and allow us to get back to normalcy. PLEASE!!!
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Sam, 1) His name is President Trump not Mr. 45 and 2) my bet is the fact that you won't refer to him by his correct title means you probably didn't vote for him. So 3) why should the President, who was elected by the majority of voters in 30 of the 50 states, listen to the pleadings/ advise to resign from someone who didn't want him to be President in the first place? Especially considering we are in this "ordeal" of a long drawn out investigation into a matter (that Trump or his close surrogates colluded with Russians to undermine our election) that so far has no, I repeat no evidence to support such a claim. At least that is what the former FBI Director, the former Dir. Of National Security, and Sen. Diane Fienstien, among others, have stated on the record.
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Why should the President work for all Americans instead of only those people who voted for him ?
That's a question ?
Does this mean he doesn't have to care for anyone under 18 either ?
Nice Confederate logic you've adopted there. This might take 4 years just like it did in 1861, but the result will be the same.
That's a question ?
Does this mean he doesn't have to care for anyone under 18 either ?
Nice Confederate logic you've adopted there. This might take 4 years just like it did in 1861, but the result will be the same.
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(i) Respect is earned; not a given. if you think he needs to be respected, he needs to earn it, so far, sadly he has not. Hence to my mind he is Mr. 45.
(ii) he is a President to all citizens, not just who voted for him
(iii) ask yourself HONESLTY, all the turmoil, drama, lies does not affect you- you think he is doing a good job?
(iv) there something called as common sense (rare to find these days): common sense indicates too much of smoke.. there sure is some fire
(ii) he is a President to all citizens, not just who voted for him
(iii) ask yourself HONESLTY, all the turmoil, drama, lies does not affect you- you think he is doing a good job?
(iv) there something called as common sense (rare to find these days): common sense indicates too much of smoke.. there sure is some fire
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Donald Trump won't stop whining and that's not only embarrassing to the country, but to the office of the President.
Nobody is to blame for what Donald Trump calls a "Witch Hunt", but Donald Trump, his insane tweeting, lies and disrespecting everyone who questions anything about his comments.
This all coming from a man who came into political prominence with a public smear and obvious lie by continually calling President Obama illegitimate to anyone that would give him air time, talking nonsense about having found evidence that he's an illegal and pushing this conspiracy for at least 6years of his Presidency.
When we talk about Donald Trump and his abusive nature of people, the list is too long, mocking a disabled person in public numerous times, smearing, degrading opponents, woman, numerous accused sexual assaults, and his own words bragging how he can grab any woman by their private parts, etc. etc. etc..
Donald Trump is a degenerate and classless individual that has brought all this disgrace on himself by lies and conspiracy nonsense he peddles.
Trump is not only in way over his head, incompetent and unfit for office from the start, and is obviously not right in the head. Trump is the most ethically challenged man to ever take office and is so rife with conflicts of interest that he would not be allowed to work in the Federal Government under any other position.
President Trump has shown himself to be a profoundly ignorant man!
Nobody is to blame for what Donald Trump calls a "Witch Hunt", but Donald Trump, his insane tweeting, lies and disrespecting everyone who questions anything about his comments.
This all coming from a man who came into political prominence with a public smear and obvious lie by continually calling President Obama illegitimate to anyone that would give him air time, talking nonsense about having found evidence that he's an illegal and pushing this conspiracy for at least 6years of his Presidency.
When we talk about Donald Trump and his abusive nature of people, the list is too long, mocking a disabled person in public numerous times, smearing, degrading opponents, woman, numerous accused sexual assaults, and his own words bragging how he can grab any woman by their private parts, etc. etc. etc..
Donald Trump is a degenerate and classless individual that has brought all this disgrace on himself by lies and conspiracy nonsense he peddles.
Trump is not only in way over his head, incompetent and unfit for office from the start, and is obviously not right in the head. Trump is the most ethically challenged man to ever take office and is so rife with conflicts of interest that he would not be allowed to work in the Federal Government under any other position.
President Trump has shown himself to be a profoundly ignorant man!
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There's a new sheriff in Dodge. Trump and the unscrupulous Republicans will likely be more careful.
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i doubt that trump is actually trying to cover anything up. he probably thinks he did nothing wrong. he doesnt have the understanding of government that a 5th grader has at the end of the school year. so even though he has probably done nothing with malicious intent his blunders made through ignorance and conceit are damaging to the country and sufficient reason to have him removed from office.
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Surely all Penn state college graduates are not this ignorant about the law.
Why didn’t Donald Trump learn any basic Economics, History or English?
He does not talk as if he attended any college English classes.
Maybe he did like Rodney Dangerfield in the movie "Back to School" and just hired other students to attend his classes and take his tests for him. I do not remember any of my college class instructors requesting that I produce a picture ID to prove that I was really the person taking that class.
Why didn’t Donald Trump learn any basic Economics, History or English?
He does not talk as if he attended any college English classes.
Maybe he did like Rodney Dangerfield in the movie "Back to School" and just hired other students to attend his classes and take his tests for him. I do not remember any of my college class instructors requesting that I produce a picture ID to prove that I was really the person taking that class.
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Hi Gerald:
trump went to The University of Pennsylvania, not Penn State.
He and his dad would have never lowered themselves for him to go to Penn State! University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school.
Penn State has had its' problems, but it is a fine school.
I did read an article which questioned people who went to the University of Pennsylvania with trump. They said that he was not very interested in school, but paid more attention to his New York City real estate. I guess he was involved in the family business even as a college student. Nothing wrong with that, by the way.
trump went to The University of Pennsylvania, not Penn State.
He and his dad would have never lowered themselves for him to go to Penn State! University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school.
Penn State has had its' problems, but it is a fine school.
I did read an article which questioned people who went to the University of Pennsylvania with trump. They said that he was not very interested in school, but paid more attention to his New York City real estate. I guess he was involved in the family business even as a college student. Nothing wrong with that, by the way.
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Understanding solid reputation of Mueller, I am still skeptical about any investigation run by this administration or it's justice department. Rosenstein's role in writing a note about Comey is still unexplained and very disturbing!! That said, I have full faith on New York Times and Washington Post whose relentless search for truth and investigative journalism unraveled all those extremely valuable information that led to the appointment of this special counsel! Keep it up your good work NYT & WaPo!
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If anyone in the administration tries to strong-arm Mueller, believe me, we'll hear about it.
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Times and WaPo Conspiracy Soda is ever so tasty. Not nourishing though. And too much of it causes the political lobe of the brain to shrink. But drink on, anyway...
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I do not trust Rosenstein, and it might follow that by association I should not trust Mueller. I am not sure whether I do trust him or not, but he is a personal friend of Jim Comey's, and they are both REPUBLICANS. However, this SHOULD have nothing to do with anything. My concern is that Mueller be a person of integrity and character, and that he have a love of truth and his country. We shall see. (Or we shall not see.) If trump (and minions, campaign) has/have truly done nothing wrong insofar as collusion with the Russians, and trump is just an idiot, so be it. Let it be discovered which it is. But he is not JUST an idiot, because there are other harmful, corrupt, and reprehensible things that trump and the republicans are doing AGAINST a lot of our American citizens that also have to be addressed. Idiot is one thing. HARM to the country and a lot of its' citizens is entirely another.
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If transition knew about Flynn in December, then Pence lies like a Trump.
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Elijah Cummings sent a letter, which is part of the Congressional Record, as part of Oversight in November detailing Flynn's apparent conflicts of interests and why he should not be apart of the administration but Trump hired him anyway.
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The proof is in the pudding. I'll believe it, when I see it. Just, EXACTLY, does HE have to do before the GOP will accept responsibility for the political and national equivalent of the BP gulf disaster??? Or a natural disaster, Katrina level??? I'm really curious. But, as long as they have their " jobs", they will cower, smile and hope to ride out the storm.
Real patriots, boys.
Real patriots, boys.
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I am #never trump and am following this matter as closely and carefully as I can. From the reporting I am seeing it was the desire to establish back channel communication with Putin that has led to everything else. Hence, when Trump says, "no collusion" in the election by him and his campaign, he is probably right. BUT, this backchannel was not being sought to tilt the election (which was probably welcome but not abetted by the campaign) but to evade future oversight. Yes, no collusion (to my untrained legal mind) but rather TREASON. The money laundering part of the story being investigated by the NYSAG is going to be yet another wrinkle in this very bad story. Don't be fooled by the clown show in the big top; the real story has not yet hit the stage. Give Mr. Mueller all the resources he needs to get this done in internet speed, not Watergate or Whitewater speed.
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What if Trump fires Mueller? I wouldn't put it past him.
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He can't fire Mueller on his own. Paragraph 2
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Again -- whoever is in that position does not serve at the pleasure of the president. The only reason for removal is for cause. If Trump tries it, he might as well admit to everything that Mueller will be investigating. It didn't work for Dick; it most certainly won't work for Don.
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Don't worry. I know that I wouldn't put it past him either, but he is BEYOND CRAZY if he tries to impede or fire Mueller. He would not get away with that so easily!
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Good choice. Mueller will do a thorough job, Trump will squawck and tweet about how unfair it is to draw attention to every minute of the proceedings. Flynn and other minor players may be embarrassed but Trump will be exonerated and claim a great victory. Liberals will come up empty-handed.
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Do you have a crystal ball for the outcome?
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No, of course not, and obviously my guess about the outcome may be wrong. I just don't think Trump was involved in any collusion with Russia. He openly advocated improved ties and collaberation with Russia, he openly expressed admiration for Putin, he has been close to trouble without getting cauught up in it throughour his entire career, and my sense is he won't get caught up in it this time either. Trump knows what he said and did, and if he has no exposure the way to make the most of the situation is to make as much noise as possible about the uinfairness of it all then be exonerated and crow about it.
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Spoon ready for Humble Pie meat?
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My Concern is that we will not be getting any outputs re the condition/progress of the investigation.
How are we going to know what is going on. I would really prefer a more open congressional investigation sort of like the Watergate thing.
How are we going to know what is going on. I would really prefer a more open congressional investigation sort of like the Watergate thing.
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The beauty of Watergate was that we got to see Congress as it truly was. Heroes and Villains. Not so with a behind the scenes, albeit needed, criminal investigation.
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I know. The left wants the constant drumbeat and twists and turns of this investigation, thinking that will prevent Trump from advancing his agenda. I wouldn't count on that though; while ya'll are focused on this charade, Trump is quietly fulfilling his campaign promises.
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For the record, "the left" doesn't actually WANT the drama of this investigation. We'd PREFER that 45 and his associates had stayed away from an unfriendly foreign government who, indisputably, attempted to influence our presidential election.
But we don't always get what we want. So an investigation into his possible collusion with said unfriendly foreign government until we have clear answers, one way or the other, will have to do.
Also, this investigation would have far fewer twists and turns if Trump just let it proceed, like an innocent person with any amount of integrity would.
But we don't always get what we want. So an investigation into his possible collusion with said unfriendly foreign government until we have clear answers, one way or the other, will have to do.
Also, this investigation would have far fewer twists and turns if Trump just let it proceed, like an innocent person with any amount of integrity would.
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It seems half of America is convinced to an absolute certainty that Trump is guilty. The other half seems to believe just as fervently in his innocence. I say let's let Director Mueller do his job. He is a no-nonsense professional who will leave no stone unturned. There has been plenty of smoke swirling about but as of yet no fire. If there is anything to find Mueller will find it. Until then, let's all take a step back and await the outcome. And no matter what the final decision, let's all let the chips fall where they may and not resort to the typical partisan responses should the result be something other than what we wished for.
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The appointment of Robert Mueller to investigate potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia is a heartening step towards putting this issue to rest. However, I am concerned that four points will be missed here:
1. Mueller's brief is limited in scope to the question of collusion by Trump's campaign team. This is reasonable enough, but such collusion is difficult to prove under the clearest of circumstances. Any conclusion -- guilty, not guilty, insufficient evidence -- will be used as the basis of endless divisiveness among an already hate-filled electorate.
2. While the potential pollution of our electoral process is certainly an enormous issue, I am more concerned about Trump's potential conflicts of interest with Russia that go beyond the election cycle. For example, why all the lies? Why no tax returns? Why shut the US press out of the Lavrov meeting? This investigation will do little to address those questions.
3. This investigation will not address Trump's clear violations of the Emoluments clause, his nepotism, and his profiteering, which are corrosive to our country, have profound effects on policy decisions, and likely go beyond entanglements with only Russia.
4. This investigation will not address questions about Trump's competence for the job, and the consequent damages that he has caused. For example, crudely leaking intelligence, angering allies, leaving crucial posts unfilled, and engendering hatreds.
1. Mueller's brief is limited in scope to the question of collusion by Trump's campaign team. This is reasonable enough, but such collusion is difficult to prove under the clearest of circumstances. Any conclusion -- guilty, not guilty, insufficient evidence -- will be used as the basis of endless divisiveness among an already hate-filled electorate.
2. While the potential pollution of our electoral process is certainly an enormous issue, I am more concerned about Trump's potential conflicts of interest with Russia that go beyond the election cycle. For example, why all the lies? Why no tax returns? Why shut the US press out of the Lavrov meeting? This investigation will do little to address those questions.
3. This investigation will not address Trump's clear violations of the Emoluments clause, his nepotism, and his profiteering, which are corrosive to our country, have profound effects on policy decisions, and likely go beyond entanglements with only Russia.
4. This investigation will not address questions about Trump's competence for the job, and the consequent damages that he has caused. For example, crudely leaking intelligence, angering allies, leaving crucial posts unfilled, and engendering hatreds.
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I agree with all of your concerns.
I do believe that Mueller can request trump's tax returns.
And if he wants to get to the bottom of this, he will NEED those tax returns.
I do believe that Mueller can request trump's tax returns.
And if he wants to get to the bottom of this, he will NEED those tax returns.
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Thank you, than you NYT, Washington Post for pursuing the truth.
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Yes, we might get rid of the "mad" man, but how do we stop the right wing agenda?
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I hope it will satisfy Trump’s critics.
The Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has validated his reputation as a career prosecutor and U.S. Attorney with impeccable credentials and accomplishments as evidenced by his selection of Robert Mueller to investigate the Russian meddling in our elections and possible involvement of the Trump campaign.
Mr. Rosenstein is one of the few bright lights (Mattis, McMaster, Haley as well) in an otherwise bleak Trump administration landscape that is composed primarily of clearly unqualified sycophants. The Deputy AG is acting in the proud tradition of Elliot Richardson and William Ruckleshouse in refusing to continence blind loyalty and abuse of Presidential power.
Mr. Rosenstein is one of the few bright lights (Mattis, McMaster, Haley as well) in an otherwise bleak Trump administration landscape that is composed primarily of clearly unqualified sycophants. The Deputy AG is acting in the proud tradition of Elliot Richardson and William Ruckleshouse in refusing to continence blind loyalty and abuse of Presidential power.
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Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
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Thank God for the NY Times. You (and the Wash Post) came through for us. You did hard, brave work that no one else was capable of. You too have helped us rescue demicracy. Thank you.
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Agree!
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And thanks to all those close to Trump who have leaked. Maybe in some odd way they are patriots?
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Mr. Mattingly,
I cannot help but think the Trump leakers care more about self preservation than they do about being patriotic. Regardless of their reasoning, this is one of those rare moments in which I can am grateful and appreciative of a rat. May many more jump ship and help terminate this horrendous administration.
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I believe that the first and foremost duty of journalism is to make sure that the law is followed in politics. That is the only reassuring principle for someone without a direct access to informations and means to fight for justice. Being told in advance that we are OK now is worrisome, for if the new investigation were to come short of a just procedure, the authors of this article would have to admit that they were dead wrong. And people do not like to admit grave errors.
We were told, often even by the NYT, that Comey was someone to be trusted due to his integrity. And yet, even he committed a grave act of meddling in the elections - and this grave act was accepted in spite of having been a direct attack on democracy. Such claims do the opposite of reassuring serious people.
We were told, often even by the NYT, that Comey was someone to be trusted due to his integrity. And yet, even he committed a grave act of meddling in the elections - and this grave act was accepted in spite of having been a direct attack on democracy. Such claims do the opposite of reassuring serious people.
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The events of the month of May thus far serve very clearly to show why a free and unfettered press is essential to the life and success of a democracy.
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A solid nine-tenths of this press is wholly bound to the Democratic Party, exactly as Pravda and Izvestia were in the last big progressive-run government.
Thomas Jefferson loved him some free and independent journalism but the current media war on the President would leave him hanging his head in shame.
The biggest media outlet to come close - but not close enough - to Jefferson's idea of independent is the Wall Street Journal, and Fox News which still shoots in both directions, especially during the workday.
Thomas Jefferson loved him some free and independent journalism but the current media war on the President would leave him hanging his head in shame.
The biggest media outlet to come close - but not close enough - to Jefferson's idea of independent is the Wall Street Journal, and Fox News which still shoots in both directions, especially during the workday.
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It always baffles me that there are people who actually believe Fox News' "Fair and Balanced" slogan. If they have to say it, they're not.
If you know the history of how Fox News was created, I think you understand real quick what their agenda is.
If you know the history of how Fox News was created, I think you understand real quick what their agenda is.
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Please. Truth is truth no matter who says it-democrat of republican. Can you point to one thing the NYT reported that is false? Compared with the person occupying the honorable office of presidency, tweeting and playing around on the internet like an aggrieved celebrity. Oh, I forgot.....
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Whatever the result of Mueller's work, we are still a nation of laws. And, as posted in many Courtrooms across this land, in "God We Trust."
With all of Trump's deficits, tops on that list is the fact (yes, fact) that he failed to talk to anyone other than his base. Pretense of a tough guy, maybe. Now, the tough guy says he has been mistreated. Some tough guy.
With all of Trump's deficits, tops on that list is the fact (yes, fact) that he failed to talk to anyone other than his base. Pretense of a tough guy, maybe. Now, the tough guy says he has been mistreated. Some tough guy.
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The odds on our democracy surviving Trump just improved measurably. But it's not inconceivable that he could fire both Mueller and Rosenstein, which might be OK with McConnell, it's unlikely he'd get away with it. Unlikely, but not impossible, given the Republican's supine posture in the face of major graft and self-dealing. It all depends on how precious they deem the opportunity to devastate the 99% in favor of the .01%. So... We're definitely not out of the woods. At least no one's going to call Rosenstein "Rollover Rod" anymore.
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Thank you, Times, for keeping pressure on. Good job!
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I am breathing a sigh of relief. We don't need any partisanship in this investigation.
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And, if and when Pres Trump et al are cleared will the howling for blood media stand down?
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Trump may not be implicated in wrong doing with Russia but it is doubtful that his associates did not do some illegal actions. However, Trump is his own worst enemy. No doubt he will be engaging in some highly questionable action that will keep him in the headlines indefinitely.
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@ barb tennant
And, if and when the investigation uncovers the evidence that the president so obviously wants buried will the howls of "sore losers" and "he won the election so get over it" finally be silenced?
And, if and when the investigation uncovers the evidence that the president so obviously wants buried will the howls of "sore losers" and "he won the election so get over it" finally be silenced?
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I am not surprised that Mr. Comey was fired. Mr. Comey should have charged Mrs. Clinton. Not charging Mrs. Clinton was an OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
See: Gowdy grills Comey over Clinton's 'false statements'
Jul. 07, 2016 - 1:50 - South Carolina Republican questions the FBI director over the Clinton email investigation
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5026413742001/?#sp=show-clips
Also, I have thought all along that Russia DID NOT interfere with the election. Can anyone answer my questions?
- How did the Russians tamper with voting machines? How?
- How did the Russians tamper with the Electoral College? How?
See: Gowdy grills Comey over Clinton's 'false statements'
Jul. 07, 2016 - 1:50 - South Carolina Republican questions the FBI director over the Clinton email investigation
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5026413742001/?#sp=show-clips
Also, I have thought all along that Russia DID NOT interfere with the election. Can anyone answer my questions?
- How did the Russians tamper with voting machines? How?
- How did the Russians tamper with the Electoral College? How?
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OMG. Give it a rest already. Quite deflecting. Please.
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What a false choice. Thousands of Russian trolls filled the media with lies and stolen information to smear Clinton. Do you think tens of billions of dollars are spent on marketing that plasters your television, internet, radio, print, and road signs for funsies? Modern marketing works by priming and association to change behavior. As someone who works in the field, you can make a substantial portion of the population do something with enough money and a clever manipulation. It's the same reason why citizens united is problematic; you're totally naive if you think money can't buy votes. That's how it works kid.
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No one is accusing Russia of having gotten far enough tampering with voting machines, many are not at all connected to the net anyway.
There is evidence both here and abroad that Russia has or has tried to influenced elections.
Oh, and by the way, many Trump associates and hired hands have had unknown interactions during that time with Russian officials, all facts.
Get you head out of the sand.
Now an since last summer to fall the FBI has initiated an investigation as to an rolls those associates and hired hands may have played in influencing election results that both Dems and Repubs are concerned. Sorry to others for being repetitive for what is in every freakin' newspaper and on every freakin' TV news show, but this individual is clearly living in his mother's basement without access to TV or internet. Must have gotten out to write his silly, uniformed diatribe.about.
There is evidence both here and abroad that Russia has or has tried to influenced elections.
Oh, and by the way, many Trump associates and hired hands have had unknown interactions during that time with Russian officials, all facts.
Get you head out of the sand.
Now an since last summer to fall the FBI has initiated an investigation as to an rolls those associates and hired hands may have played in influencing election results that both Dems and Repubs are concerned. Sorry to others for being repetitive for what is in every freakin' newspaper and on every freakin' TV news show, but this individual is clearly living in his mother's basement without access to TV or internet. Must have gotten out to write his silly, uniformed diatribe.about.
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Trump was elected for a job that he CANNOT do. The Right continues to support his raging incompetence as a "learning curve". It is not!
He has shown that he is not a bright man. and lacks any depth of intellectual curiosity. He is NOT qualified for the office of president. No matter how bright or strong he claims to be, it is not borne out by his actions.
This is not a learning curve. There has been no indication that Trump has learned or read anything pertaining to the job. It gets worse as the months drag on, and the indisputable truth of his lack of ability creates more confusion in his mind.
As he goes on tour to other countries, we pray he does not reveal more classified information which creates significant danger to our lives as Americans, and exposes people working in the field to all manner of danger including death.
The presidency is a complex and rigorous job. It was not created for a distracted, ice cream living womanizer easily manipulated by the Republican establishment for their own purposes. We have elected an INCOMPETENT who is incapable of properly executing his functions as president. These are horrid times for our Republic.
He has shown that he is not a bright man. and lacks any depth of intellectual curiosity. He is NOT qualified for the office of president. No matter how bright or strong he claims to be, it is not borne out by his actions.
This is not a learning curve. There has been no indication that Trump has learned or read anything pertaining to the job. It gets worse as the months drag on, and the indisputable truth of his lack of ability creates more confusion in his mind.
As he goes on tour to other countries, we pray he does not reveal more classified information which creates significant danger to our lives as Americans, and exposes people working in the field to all manner of danger including death.
The presidency is a complex and rigorous job. It was not created for a distracted, ice cream living womanizer easily manipulated by the Republican establishment for their own purposes. We have elected an INCOMPETENT who is incapable of properly executing his functions as president. These are horrid times for our Republic.
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I happen to like what Donald Trump is doing.
Trying to work with China on North Korea. Trying to work with Russia on Syria and Ukraine. Standing up to Assad in Syria. Trying to sort out the Israel-Palestine mess. Trying to fix our healthcare system so that care really is affordable. And most of all, trying to grow our economy and create good jobs.
And what do the Democrats do? Practice politics. They seem to care less about getting anything done. Donald Trump is trying to drain the swamp of political alligators like James Comey who instead of doing his job tried to please politicians. We're finding out that alligators can get roiled. But I hope Donald Trump can tame them.
Trying to work with China on North Korea. Trying to work with Russia on Syria and Ukraine. Standing up to Assad in Syria. Trying to sort out the Israel-Palestine mess. Trying to fix our healthcare system so that care really is affordable. And most of all, trying to grow our economy and create good jobs.
And what do the Democrats do? Practice politics. They seem to care less about getting anything done. Donald Trump is trying to drain the swamp of political alligators like James Comey who instead of doing his job tried to please politicians. We're finding out that alligators can get roiled. But I hope Donald Trump can tame them.
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Excellent articulate comment. Thank you!
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You use the word 'trying'. Trying does not mean doing. He's throwing out thoughts, and hopes something might stick. There is no substance, no follow through, and a distinct lack of understanding of the situations you mention. He has stepped away from the Israeli issue in favor of his son-in-law, why, because he can only throw out ideas but is unable to create strategies, seek out advice, listen.
If you can't put something on the table that is clear, driven, has goals which it is very clear he cannot, what do you expect from Democrats. One doesn't walk into a bank saying I have a great plan, you'll love it and expect to be given money. This is the line that the American people are being fed all the time by this president, and quite frankly, those who have eyes, ears are not buying it. No loan for you!
If you can't put something on the table that is clear, driven, has goals which it is very clear he cannot, what do you expect from Democrats. One doesn't walk into a bank saying I have a great plan, you'll love it and expect to be given money. This is the line that the American people are being fed all the time by this president, and quite frankly, those who have eyes, ears are not buying it. No loan for you!
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Mueller was an excellent choice. Now we need either Ray Kelly or McCabe to be selected as FBI director for the public to regain trust.
And one must ask where was Jared Kushner, the so-called moderating force when Flynn was selected to head the NSA AFTER he confessed he was being investigated? It seems the guy is quite useless in controlling Trump, or he is no better than Trump.
And one must ask where was Jared Kushner, the so-called moderating force when Flynn was selected to head the NSA AFTER he confessed he was being investigated? It seems the guy is quite useless in controlling Trump, or he is no better than Trump.
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Trump is a failed president, just as Nixon was. And neither one of them realized it.
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He may be a republican but I trust Mueller to give us the thorough, unbiased evaluation this matter deserves. If this is any impropriety Mr Mueller, will find it and Mr.Trump will be faced with the impeachment, his incompetence and arrogance deserves.
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Thanks to the appointment of a special counsel, we all can hope that the truth will eventually out. Apart from learning everything about Donald Trump’s Russia connections, the independent counsel’s investigation would likely reveal why President Trump decided to appoint Michael Flynn as his national security adviser, even after learning that he was under criminal investigation.
One can think of only one reason why Mr. Trump did it. Mr. Flynn may be among the few in Mr. Trump’s inner circle who knew everything about his Russia connections, both as a businessman and as presidential campaigner. Those connections were already under FBI investigation. The best way to buy Gen Flynn’s silence over this matter would be to give him a coveted position in the Trump administration.
Any coveted position that required the senate’s approval was out of the question. Mr. Trump knew full well that a person under criminal investigation would never be approved by the senate. Hence his decision to give Gen. Flynn the job that is very prestigious but would not be subjected to embarrassing senate hearing.
We are going to learn a lot more about Mr. Trump’s and Gen. Flynn’s dealings with foreign powers, the dealings that might have even compromised national security.
One can think of only one reason why Mr. Trump did it. Mr. Flynn may be among the few in Mr. Trump’s inner circle who knew everything about his Russia connections, both as a businessman and as presidential campaigner. Those connections were already under FBI investigation. The best way to buy Gen Flynn’s silence over this matter would be to give him a coveted position in the Trump administration.
Any coveted position that required the senate’s approval was out of the question. Mr. Trump knew full well that a person under criminal investigation would never be approved by the senate. Hence his decision to give Gen. Flynn the job that is very prestigious but would not be subjected to embarrassing senate hearing.
We are going to learn a lot more about Mr. Trump’s and Gen. Flynn’s dealings with foreign powers, the dealings that might have even compromised national security.
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Strangely, I feel more relaxed this morning. It's as if I had been on guard, out here hundreds of miles from D.C., and couldn't attend to the minutiae of my own life because of the unrelenting all-things-trump developments. I'm even going out to lunch with a friend....oh, the freedom!
I do wish this foreign trip could be postponed. It's embarrassing that DJT is representing us when the entire world knows the situation here, and he'll spend his time talking about how great he is and how badly he is being treated by the sore losers and fake media.
I do wish this foreign trip could be postponed. It's embarrassing that DJT is representing us when the entire world knows the situation here, and he'll spend his time talking about how great he is and how badly he is being treated by the sore losers and fake media.
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This shows that Trump is both impulsive and predictable. A bad combination.
Should we not also have an independent counsel investigate Hillary Clinton for obstruction of justice, another to investigate Bill Clintons multiple rape accusations, and another to investigate Barack Obama's various abuses of power, from using the IRS to attack his opponents, to his DOJ's support for Clinton despite covert tarmac meetings and evidence of abuse? And also an investigation into what was behind the FBI's granting of immunity, declaration of no criminal charges against HRC, although that is not part of their responsibility? Or do,we simply accept that the (truly) fascist left can do whatever they can to protect themselves while subverting their opponents?
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Get a grip Doug. Republicans control the WH, House and Senate and yet you still feel that the left is oppressing you? Hillary Clinton testified for 11 hours and no wrong doing was found. Trump has been a complete disaster. We must root out all foreign agents that infest the Trump administration. Let's (truly) put America first and protect our sovereignty.
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I'm going to post a copy of this Editorial beside the copy of the letter The Times Publisher sent to us subscribers detailing the high minded purposes and policies that the Times swore to follow after President Trump was elected. The copy of James Bennett's editorial detailing how The Editorial Board was going to expand its ideological base beginning with the hiring of Bret Stephens is also on my board.
Then, when Mr. Mueller doesn't find any evidence to impeach the President, and The Times turns on Mr. Mueller with all of its much practiced savagery, I can recall The Editorial Board's initial assessment of Mr. Mueller's qualifications:
"Mr. Rosenstein is absolutely right, and he has done the nation a service in choosing Mr. Mueller, one of the few people with the experience, stature and reputation to see the job through".
I won't have to rely on unnamed sources quoting fairy dust memos or classified documents, I will have words right out of the horse's mouth.
Thanks, Board.
Then, when Mr. Mueller doesn't find any evidence to impeach the President, and The Times turns on Mr. Mueller with all of its much practiced savagery, I can recall The Editorial Board's initial assessment of Mr. Mueller's qualifications:
"Mr. Rosenstein is absolutely right, and he has done the nation a service in choosing Mr. Mueller, one of the few people with the experience, stature and reputation to see the job through".
I won't have to rely on unnamed sources quoting fairy dust memos or classified documents, I will have words right out of the horse's mouth.
Thanks, Board.
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“I like people who weren’t captured.”
Donald Trump had this to say about war hero Senator John McCain. I hope Robert Mueller can make the president hate himself.
Donald Trump had this to say about war hero Senator John McCain. I hope Robert Mueller can make the president hate himself.
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Mueller will provide the ballast for this woefully untethered administration. This appointment as Special Counsel also magnifies the continuing narcissistic ravings of truly dangerous and pitiful human being who somehow woke up one morning as President in name only. I hope through scrupulous examination the malignancy of this administration will front page news all over the planet and perhaps the solar system.
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With Mr. Muller on the case, I have every confidence that this will be a fair, thorough and just investigation.
Now, until his work is concluded, I hope all Americans, left, right, and center, can focus on their jobs and families, and making their bit of America a better place for one and all. And please quit howling for impeachment, until if or when that time comes.
DJT may be among the wold's biggest assholes, but that is not a crime. If he's in Putin's pocket, however, that puts the free world in grave peril. That's speculation for now, and the evidence remains to be gathered, analyzed and seen by one and all. We need sunshine here.
More important, I hope Congress can get back to work doing it's job - and I don't mean merely passing bills handed to them by huge corporate donors and special interest lobbies ...or trying to get reelected. They need to work for the people who pay them rather handsomely to take care of their constituents.
Now, until his work is concluded, I hope all Americans, left, right, and center, can focus on their jobs and families, and making their bit of America a better place for one and all. And please quit howling for impeachment, until if or when that time comes.
DJT may be among the wold's biggest assholes, but that is not a crime. If he's in Putin's pocket, however, that puts the free world in grave peril. That's speculation for now, and the evidence remains to be gathered, analyzed and seen by one and all. We need sunshine here.
More important, I hope Congress can get back to work doing it's job - and I don't mean merely passing bills handed to them by huge corporate donors and special interest lobbies ...or trying to get reelected. They need to work for the people who pay them rather handsomely to take care of their constituents.
It will make my day if Robert Mueller summons Trump to testify under oath. He, a habitual liar, who has such a reckless disregard for the truth won't survive the grilling unscathed. He just simply can't hold his tongue and won't steer clear of the pitfalls of perjury.
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Sadly if Trump does get called to testify he will just take the 5th...for every question. No answers = no perjury.
How much money does President Trump owe to foreign entities (Foreign governments, banks, citizens, etc.)?
Russia, Communist China, India, Saudia Arabia, Germany, France, etc.
Would these foreigners forgive these debts in return for government licenses of US government military secrets?
for US government military actions?
for US government military trade deals?
for US government purchases of Sovereign Treasury Bonds at in excess of the market value? (i.e. Greek, etc.)
for US government Green Card visas?
for US government citizenship?
Russia, Communist China, India, Saudia Arabia, Germany, France, etc.
Would these foreigners forgive these debts in return for government licenses of US government military secrets?
for US government military actions?
for US government military trade deals?
for US government purchases of Sovereign Treasury Bonds at in excess of the market value? (i.e. Greek, etc.)
for US government Green Card visas?
for US government citizenship?
Mr. Mueller's investigation should be of wide range to cover everything and everybody including Jeff Session. We have to make sure that there was no treason, no Russian espionage and no implant of KGB mole in our politics, government and in our democracy.
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Nixon, most likely, didn't order the Watergate break-in. as I recall, he was subject to impeachment because he tried to obstruct the investigation
Sad
Sad
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Trump's beyond and below a conscious decision to lie. He is forever living in the now and guided by the weird light show of his fears and demands. He is all id without reflections. Words and statements are all employed to satisfy an immediate need regardless of their veracity, which, to him, is completely beside the point. For Trump, the only real truth are his needs and since he is by self definition, a good, like smart person, his words serve the greater good. QED. Since he has the attention span of a humming bird, he immediately forgets and the world is fresh and new again.
All these characteristics were on display way before the election. Yet, he won. Something has gone off the rails in our election system. And, it predates the Russians. Any reasonable challenger should have been streets ahead of this man.
All these characteristics were on display way before the election. Yet, he won. Something has gone off the rails in our election system. And, it predates the Russians. Any reasonable challenger should have been streets ahead of this man.
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One thing that is now "off the rails" is our beloved Constitution, which has now guaranteed a huge deficit in power for the educated (and uneducated for that matter) people who live in cities and close-in suburbs. The composition of the Senate, the structure of the electoral college, and the granting of nearly all power over voting to the states has made minority rule a possibility into the distant future.
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All Americans are deeply indebted to Robert Mueller for agreeing to step up and serve his country once again in its hour of great need. Mr Mueller will be 73 in August. He doesn't need the work. He has served America with great distinction both as a decorated military veteran and as a public servant. He represents the very best in American values.
By agreeing to serve, he has brought an immediate measure of calmness and order to what is an ongoing chaotic situation in Washington.
Thank you Mr. Mueller
By agreeing to serve, he has brought an immediate measure of calmness and order to what is an ongoing chaotic situation in Washington.
Thank you Mr. Mueller
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With all his investigative power, wouldn't it be legally possible, perhaps even useful, for Mueller to review Trumps financial dealings over the past years and to consider any possible Russian link-ups ?
It would surely open up a treasure trove of information, if not pandora's box ...
It would surely open up a treasure trove of information, if not pandora's box ...
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Most politically motivated fishing expeditions do.
Hopefully, the rule of law is winning. First time in months that I have hope.
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Rosenstein has taken a step Trump could never bring himself to do, and the Mercer-Bannon clique pulling Trump's strings are probably disconcerted that Trump's shady business deals will become more evident. But nothing actionable will be found that traces directly to Trump. He'll lose some more luster, but he will remain as the Mercer-Bannon puppet, unable to plan, to focus, to organize, even to read his executive orders and his health care bill.
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Trump associates know people in the Russian government.
So what?
"If President Trump thought that by sacking the F.B.I. director, James Comey, he could kill off the investigation into his associates’ ties to the Russian government and its attempt to deliver him the White House, he was wrong."
So what?
"If President Trump thought that by sacking the F.B.I. director, James Comey, he could kill off the investigation into his associates’ ties to the Russian government and its attempt to deliver him the White House, he was wrong."
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Poor guy. While the rest of the world stands frozen in amazement at the new American president, this guy must act with thoroughgoing deliberation and he can't take his time. Campaigning for the next election starts in a few months, and we'd better have some conclusions before next November.
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Oh, what a tangled web Trump will find himself in.
Someone should have warned him about tangling with the F.B.I. ...They don't play around.
It's bad enough Trump had nothing but derision for the Intelligence agency before even being sworn in, but this last chapter, with the firing of ex-head James Comey and all the attendant contradictory remarks about the reasons why, really took the cake.
By all rights, Robert Mueller should take him to task for that.
And within the course of his investigation into Trump's complicity with the Russian government before, during, and after the campaign, there's every ground to think that he will.
Someone should have warned him about tangling with the F.B.I. ...They don't play around.
It's bad enough Trump had nothing but derision for the Intelligence agency before even being sworn in, but this last chapter, with the firing of ex-head James Comey and all the attendant contradictory remarks about the reasons why, really took the cake.
By all rights, Robert Mueller should take him to task for that.
And within the course of his investigation into Trump's complicity with the Russian government before, during, and after the campaign, there's every ground to think that he will.
When all is said and done this is a huge victory for the all the Americans who kicked, screamed long and loudly and made it clear we would not accept the destruction of beloved country by a man of questionable integrity. For months the politicians have postured and ignored the hue and cry around them. Today they are silenced. Give yourself a pat on the back.
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Just starting to enjoy your increased investments ?
Feeling good about your kid getting into college and getting a job ?
Well, if you feel good now wait until the democratic gestapo finishes with your portfolio, you'll think we're back under the guidance of the Obama administration where what you earn goes to those that don't. Where free college is promised to all, especially those from elsewhere and we pay.
chuck schemer's and his band of Merry Mischief makers will drag us back to the hell we silently suffered under Obama. (small caps for chucky deliberate)
Watch the way they have of making all of us squirm, do you really believe these low life's give a hoot about you ? If your that stupid allow me to sell you some prime Florida real estate, it's located between high and low water where the tide ebbs and flows.
Feeling good about your kid getting into college and getting a job ?
Well, if you feel good now wait until the democratic gestapo finishes with your portfolio, you'll think we're back under the guidance of the Obama administration where what you earn goes to those that don't. Where free college is promised to all, especially those from elsewhere and we pay.
chuck schemer's and his band of Merry Mischief makers will drag us back to the hell we silently suffered under Obama. (small caps for chucky deliberate)
Watch the way they have of making all of us squirm, do you really believe these low life's give a hoot about you ? If your that stupid allow me to sell you some prime Florida real estate, it's located between high and low water where the tide ebbs and flows.
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Rosenstein rightly did not want to throw his own reputation on to the Trumpster fire. He had everything to lose if he was to become another Trump patsy, but at this point, nothing to gain.
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Reading the NYT's alert that DAG Rosenstein had appointed a special prosecutor was like looking o'er the ramparts and seeing, with pride and relief, that our flag was still there.
Of course, Trump could fire Mueller, just like Nixon fired Archibald Cox. But the firestorm of righteous indignation that would set off in the Justice Department would reduce his presidency to a cinder. My own short stint as a special assistant U.S. attorney filled me with an awe and responsibility of representing the United States of America so deep it still resonates almost forty years later. And, more to the point, that experience also taught me the careerists in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys' Office felt exactly the same way. It was a point of deeply held honor that their work was dedicated to the common and greater good--knowing in their souls they represented the United States of America, rather than any individual, no matter how high or otherwise honorable. To be called an "Obama person" or a "Bush person" or any president's person would have been an insult going to the core of who they were.
I am convinced it is that deeply held honor that prompted Rod Rosenstein to appoint a special prosecutor and one who has the same sense of representing the United States of America. Our president may not understand or appreciate the power of that sense of honor. But he will assuredly feel its wrath in exponential measure were he to fire Mueller as he did Comey.
Of course, Trump could fire Mueller, just like Nixon fired Archibald Cox. But the firestorm of righteous indignation that would set off in the Justice Department would reduce his presidency to a cinder. My own short stint as a special assistant U.S. attorney filled me with an awe and responsibility of representing the United States of America so deep it still resonates almost forty years later. And, more to the point, that experience also taught me the careerists in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys' Office felt exactly the same way. It was a point of deeply held honor that their work was dedicated to the common and greater good--knowing in their souls they represented the United States of America, rather than any individual, no matter how high or otherwise honorable. To be called an "Obama person" or a "Bush person" or any president's person would have been an insult going to the core of who they were.
I am convinced it is that deeply held honor that prompted Rod Rosenstein to appoint a special prosecutor and one who has the same sense of representing the United States of America. Our president may not understand or appreciate the power of that sense of honor. But he will assuredly feel its wrath in exponential measure were he to fire Mueller as he did Comey.
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I can see Trump resigning, taking his blocks and going home. Claiming we were too mean to him, he did nothing wrong, blah,blah,blah. In that case, Pence should still be looked into, as he was the head of the transition team, knowing full well about Flynn and probably everything else.
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the right and the so called president claim he us treated unfairly and all this talk about Russia is a witch hunt. what about the birther issue and personal email issues that so called president and the right beat to death for what seemed an eternity
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The NYTimes approves. Whew! I guess government finally got something right.
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I have a couple questions and an observation for you to ponder.
1) Is it illegal for a private citizen to do business with entities in Russia?
2) Is it illegal for members of of a presidential transition team to have contact with officials in foreign governments during a post-election transition?
3) If Reince Priebus himself called Putin directly and said, "Vlad, I hear you have access to DNC emails obtained by Wikileaks, I think you should release them to the press just before the DNC Convention this summer", what law would that break?
And if you can't come up with laws that were even potentially broken... Why is this a case for the FBI and a Special Prosecutor?
And DAG Rosenstein said he did this so the American people could trust the outcome. Maybe he has a strong feeling that there is no there there and unless someone like Mueller says so no one in the mainstream media or the Democrat party will ever accept it. Sadly even if that is his conclusion we know they won't accept it anyway.
1) Is it illegal for a private citizen to do business with entities in Russia?
2) Is it illegal for members of of a presidential transition team to have contact with officials in foreign governments during a post-election transition?
3) If Reince Priebus himself called Putin directly and said, "Vlad, I hear you have access to DNC emails obtained by Wikileaks, I think you should release them to the press just before the DNC Convention this summer", what law would that break?
And if you can't come up with laws that were even potentially broken... Why is this a case for the FBI and a Special Prosecutor?
And DAG Rosenstein said he did this so the American people could trust the outcome. Maybe he has a strong feeling that there is no there there and unless someone like Mueller says so no one in the mainstream media or the Democrat party will ever accept it. Sadly even if that is his conclusion we know they won't accept it anyway.
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It's possible that no laws were broken and it's possible that some were. That's why an independent investigation is needed.
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Phil, I asked you to cite the laws "potentially" broken... And you couldn't do it. Like I said, even if Trump officials had past business dealings with Russia as private citizens... That's not illegal. Even if Trump campaign staff talked with Russia... That's not illegal. Even if transition officials talked with Russia... That not illegal. So if even the things that we believe "might" have happened aren't illegal if true... Why do we have a Special Investigator looking into them? Again, cite for me even a potential law that could have been broken. Just because I think you might have committed a crime it's not constitutional for law enforcement to investigate you and look into your past, your taxes, and your business dealings without "probable cause" that a law was broken. So what's the probable cause that a law was broken here?
Why publish an op-ed by John Yoo without advising that he wrote the infamous "torture memos."
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Unbelievable. A special counsel is appointed to look into this nothingburger of a matter, and you still say we need congressional committees and an independent commission?
All Donald Trump has been guilty of so far is a few words that can be interpreted a variety of ways. This whole thing does indeed smell of a political witch hunt by people who don't like Donald Trump and are happy to break Constitutional norms to get him out of office.
What a disgrace.
All Donald Trump has been guilty of so far is a few words that can be interpreted a variety of ways. This whole thing does indeed smell of a political witch hunt by people who don't like Donald Trump and are happy to break Constitutional norms to get him out of office.
What a disgrace.
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Yes, Trump certainly is a disgrace.
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Though I greatly approve of the action Rosenstein took I wouldn't be so quick to start singing his praises, I still think he is somewhat of a Trump goon.
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Witch hunts typically end with the witch burned at the stake but in this case it will end with President Trump throwing another shrimp on the barbie.
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Don't like the special prosecutor Donald?
Call 1-800-Wah
Call 1-800-Wah
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Trump will fire Mueller. He'll then tell his rabid base that the whole investigation was being orchestrated by the colored guy, Obama. The republicans will cower and go along. And don't bring up the "brave" republicans of Watergate. That's portraying necessity as virtue. A Senate controlled by the Democratic Party would have convicted Nixon regardless. If anyone believes Mitch McConnel has the political courage to impeach trump and then go home and face the enraged red-necks of Kentucky they stupid!
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First, a question. Do you read this paper or just comment? If you read the editorial, you may have missed the EB pointing out that the POTUS can't fire Mueller. He hasn't the power to do so. He would have to order the DAG to do so, and that's not going to happen for three reasons: the DAG's an honorable not going to give such an order. Now, moving on, McConnell is a senator man, he happens also to be a Democrat, and most important of all, Trump's and the Senate doesn't "impeach" anybody; that's the House's job. If the House impeaches, the Senate tries the matter...
Why is the Left so obsessed with the color of Obama's skin? He's just an American who happened serve as POTUS and could never have been elected without the support of voters who were of a skin color different than his... And the emphasis should always be on the word American...
Why is the Left so obsessed with the color of Obama's skin? He's just an American who happened serve as POTUS and could never have been elected without the support of voters who were of a skin color different than his... And the emphasis should always be on the word American...
McConnell would just die to hear that you described him as a democrat!
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How can I get in touch with Sen Lieberman to advise him not to join the Trump administration or his reputation will be ruined and his integrity brought into question. STAY AWAY. (Advice given in the aftermath of Watergate).
This administration is toxic. Look what happened to Rosenstein after just two weeks!! Save yourself!!
This administration is toxic. Look what happened to Rosenstein after just two weeks!! Save yourself!!
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Great German poet--dramatist--man of letters. Had a long life. Died an old man. (When? The 1830's I think.)
On his deathbed (so I have read) his last words were, "More light! More light!"
I guess that is exactly where we, the American people, are right now. Looking at all this Russia stuff--whom have they talked to? what have they done? who has ties to whom? Goodness, what a mess!
The whole nation is crying out, "More light! More light!" Here's hoping (and praying) our new Special Counsel will open the windows--fling back the curtains . . . .
. . . .and give us the light we're begging for.
And who knows? Maybe he will.
On his deathbed (so I have read) his last words were, "More light! More light!"
I guess that is exactly where we, the American people, are right now. Looking at all this Russia stuff--whom have they talked to? what have they done? who has ties to whom? Goodness, what a mess!
The whole nation is crying out, "More light! More light!" Here's hoping (and praying) our new Special Counsel will open the windows--fling back the curtains . . . .
. . . .and give us the light we're begging for.
And who knows? Maybe he will.
Finally, an independent 'special counsel' to corral Trump's iniquities under one roof. Although Rosenstein could be ordered to fire Mr. Mueller if things get too close, Trump in the hot seat, that occurrence would break loose all hell, however contained now. Crooked lying Trump is exceedingly ignorant, hence, arrogant in his open 'pretend' of knowing more and better than anybody else. That is what makes him so dangerous. This, and his complete lack of scruples while on a vengeful course of destruction. His stealing the presidency by his constant lying (whenever he opens his mouth), and some help, ? coordinated, from Putin and Comey, brings to mind the obvious question: how in the world could 'we' have elected such a despicable con- man, in spite of all the evidence of his cheating his fellowmen, and his policy of instilling fear, hate and division; racism, xenophobia and misogyny?
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don't be surprised if:
Flynn turns out to be a bagman for Trump...
Manafort, Stone, and the rest of the cast of colluding despicables are all part of the case...
Bannon suggests burning the Reichstag...
Trump orders the JD to put the kibosh on the investiation and fire Meuller; Rosenstine refuses and is canned as well...
And this ultimately leads to a hugh and cry to impeach based on obstruction of justice.
Have we seen this picture before? Is it a remake or a ripoff?
Film at 11.
Flynn turns out to be a bagman for Trump...
Manafort, Stone, and the rest of the cast of colluding despicables are all part of the case...
Bannon suggests burning the Reichstag...
Trump orders the JD to put the kibosh on the investiation and fire Meuller; Rosenstine refuses and is canned as well...
And this ultimately leads to a hugh and cry to impeach based on obstruction of justice.
Have we seen this picture before? Is it a remake or a ripoff?
Film at 11.
Well now:.....finally....and very thankfully.....this very good and honorable
Marine has Landed.....and ....a fresh breeze....no....a good and fine and clean
wind has blown into Washington D.C.......so watch out.....GOP....get in gear.
You....hold outs on Trump...know this:...you swamp dwellers....you
CANNOT serve
God who loves our USA....and God's nemesis...MAMMON...you must choose
GOP members in the Congress.....are you just as honorable as our good
Marine Bob Mueller...and if not....we will out you.....and be absolutely
blinded by the truths about you jackals who stand behind Trump...for MONEY.
.that is MAMMON to
Marine has Landed.....and ....a fresh breeze....no....a good and fine and clean
wind has blown into Washington D.C.......so watch out.....GOP....get in gear.
You....hold outs on Trump...know this:...you swamp dwellers....you
CANNOT serve
God who loves our USA....and God's nemesis...MAMMON...you must choose
GOP members in the Congress.....are you just as honorable as our good
Marine Bob Mueller...and if not....we will out you.....and be absolutely
blinded by the truths about you jackals who stand behind Trump...for MONEY.
.that is MAMMON to
Why should we be assured of this prosecutor? The Justice Dept and the FBI abused the clvii liberties of the American people for eight years under Bush. He is a Bush and Chaney appointee, and I don't trust anyone who worked in that administration, and one act of doing what is right, does not make the other acts better.
His investigation of the NFL was a classic case of siding with the powerful, as he gave the NFL a mild slap on the hand and pretty much acquitted them of any and all wrongdoing. Dems need to stop sucking up and praising Republicans, as they do n ot have the same ideology as we on the left have.
We will have had 20 years of Republicans running the FBI, I think it is time for a change. So no IO do not think Mueller is a good choice, but this is probably as good as Rosenstein gets.
His investigation of the NFL was a classic case of siding with the powerful, as he gave the NFL a mild slap on the hand and pretty much acquitted them of any and all wrongdoing. Dems need to stop sucking up and praising Republicans, as they do n ot have the same ideology as we on the left have.
We will have had 20 years of Republicans running the FBI, I think it is time for a change. So no IO do not think Mueller is a good choice, but this is probably as good as Rosenstein gets.
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Thank you Mr. Rosenstein.
And let this be a lesson to buying into the rhetoric of both these parties.
Both candidates were deplorable.
It would be easier to watch Bill and Hillary become the worlds first trillionaires than listen to this cry baby, screw up EVERY DAY .
And let this be a lesson to buying into the rhetoric of both these parties.
Both candidates were deplorable.
It would be easier to watch Bill and Hillary become the worlds first trillionaires than listen to this cry baby, screw up EVERY DAY .
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Here's a game: print out your 2016 ballot and cross off every single GOPer. Vote hacking, conspiracy and obstruction IN EVERY STATE. #newelection #thanksobama
"In fact, he refrained from even notifying the White House of Mr. Mueller’s appointment until after he had signed the order."
That's a relief. At least we know Rosenstein was acting independently in his decision making. Good for him. There's also nothing like appointing Mr. Comey's old boss to investigate his termination. Dismiss one experienced F.B.I. director and you get an even more experienced F.B.I. director with more freedom. That's like punching one of those pop-up punch clowns and having the clown hit you back. Good choice.
That's a relief. At least we know Rosenstein was acting independently in his decision making. Good for him. There's also nothing like appointing Mr. Comey's old boss to investigate his termination. Dismiss one experienced F.B.I. director and you get an even more experienced F.B.I. director with more freedom. That's like punching one of those pop-up punch clowns and having the clown hit you back. Good choice.
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Trump and his team are about to find out what it's like to go up against people much brighter and capable then you. Hell hath no fury like a smart lawyer wronged, as Comey certainly is and was.
The arrogance of a bunch of NYC real estate developers to think that what they do preofessionally prepares them to compete on the level they now find themselves is positively stunning . How can you sit around one conference table after another with people who can eat you up and spit you out intellectually and not have the light dawn that you are now playing in an entirely different league and should perhaps shut your mouth and open your ears and learn?
Trump is about to find out that by comparison to the guys coming after him, he is a ham-fisted thug without the depth or skill to fend them off.
How long before he wearies of this and cannot resist the urge - growing daily no doubt - to go back to his old life where nobody ever thwarted him and every eye in the world wasn't on him. Where his every exercise of thuggery or bullying or personal failure didn't show up on the front page of the Times or the Post.
PS: watch the Netflix documentary on Roger Stone for insight into Trump. I got through about 15 mins. before I felt an overwhelming need for a shower. Stone is reptilian . . . and would be complimented by that appraisal. He is the absolute epitome of how our political system - and out country - is broken. He readily admits that politics is about making money. Period.
The arrogance of a bunch of NYC real estate developers to think that what they do preofessionally prepares them to compete on the level they now find themselves is positively stunning . How can you sit around one conference table after another with people who can eat you up and spit you out intellectually and not have the light dawn that you are now playing in an entirely different league and should perhaps shut your mouth and open your ears and learn?
Trump is about to find out that by comparison to the guys coming after him, he is a ham-fisted thug without the depth or skill to fend them off.
How long before he wearies of this and cannot resist the urge - growing daily no doubt - to go back to his old life where nobody ever thwarted him and every eye in the world wasn't on him. Where his every exercise of thuggery or bullying or personal failure didn't show up on the front page of the Times or the Post.
PS: watch the Netflix documentary on Roger Stone for insight into Trump. I got through about 15 mins. before I felt an overwhelming need for a shower. Stone is reptilian . . . and would be complimented by that appraisal. He is the absolute epitome of how our political system - and out country - is broken. He readily admits that politics is about making money. Period.
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Go for it Mr. Mueller. Here's hoping you go through Donald Trump like a dose of salts. What a great gift it would be to the nation if you can get this hump out of office by Christmas. Wrap him up in a big red bow.
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A friend with better political memory than mine reminded me of Mueller's central role in the "non-investigation" of the BCCI scandal back in the day.
This NY times editorial from 1991 and the quote shown below the link takes some of the bloom off the "special counsel" rose..
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/04/opinion/essay-sununu-whitewash.html
"Because nobody has held out a bundle of cash and bluntly said "obstruct justice," the complaisant Mr. Mueller will not ask anybody embarrassing questions under oath. When it comes to modern global corruption -- legal fees, stock deals, intermediaries, cooperation with intelligence cut-outs for protection -- this passive Thornburgh product just doesn't get it. "
This NY times editorial from 1991 and the quote shown below the link takes some of the bloom off the "special counsel" rose..
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/04/opinion/essay-sununu-whitewash.html
"Because nobody has held out a bundle of cash and bluntly said "obstruct justice," the complaisant Mr. Mueller will not ask anybody embarrassing questions under oath. When it comes to modern global corruption -- legal fees, stock deals, intermediaries, cooperation with intelligence cut-outs for protection -- this passive Thornburgh product just doesn't get it. "
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@Wreckluse
Thank you for the enlightening link. Just when I thought I could finally breathe.
Thank you for the enlightening link. Just when I thought I could finally breathe.
Saturday night has already been used for a massacre.
I expect Trump will pick a night with better TV ratings to have Mueller sacked. Then he'll blame the media.
I expect Trump will pick a night with better TV ratings to have Mueller sacked. Then he'll blame the media.
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"His [Mueller's] current law firm, WilmerHale in Boston, also represents former Trump campaign manger Paul Manafort and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner. That fact could expose Mueller to possible conflict of interest charges."
(McClatchey, 5/18)
"I read McClatchey and The Guardian for the news, then go to the NYTimes for the official line."
Chalmers Johnson
(McClatchey, 5/18)
"I read McClatchey and The Guardian for the news, then go to the NYTimes for the official line."
Chalmers Johnson
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Thanks, NYT, for the recent editorial asking Rosenstein to appoint a Special Counsel, and explaining why not doing so would undermine the credibility of not only an already in scandal burried presidency, but also of Mr. Rosenstein himself.
I'd like to believe that the editorial helped to speed up things a little bit ...
I'd like to believe that the editorial helped to speed up things a little bit ...
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One have to be very optimistic ,after this nightmare . I am hundred percent confident that this so call incompetent president" is guilt , and his lies came to beat him bad. I really have zero respect for cynical republicans from congress, and senate, for being cúmplice when obvious behavior from Trumpy dominate the media, and they did nothing. Thanks for the hard worker journalists, they did a excellent job. I don't care about parties affiliation , this not a democracy in a good faith, and we saw well how the democrats sabotaged Bernie. I don't believe in political party, I believe in a decent candidate, like Bernie. . One person can make a decision about the candidate,not a few group of politicians. Democracy? Really? Now republicans could go forever, and 2018 we're going to see the best results ever. They are terrible in terms of to helping citizens . They are in WDC to fill their pockets , or guarantee the good job after their terms. Democrática too, obviously we have few politicians that deserve our respect. Others can take a walk and disappear from the public. Trump is really the fake face of fake politicians.
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What is to prevent Trump from firing Rosenstein? Or Sessions "un-recusing" himself?
A step in the right direction...
Trump is a..
1-Bigot
2-Rabble rouser
3-Admitted sexual predator
4-Pathological liar
5-Ego maniac
6-Demagogue
However, the above does not immediately qualify for impeachment under the constitution.
Trump's handling of the Russian affair may.
Trump is a..
1-Bigot
2-Rabble rouser
3-Admitted sexual predator
4-Pathological liar
5-Ego maniac
6-Demagogue
However, the above does not immediately qualify for impeachment under the constitution.
Trump's handling of the Russian affair may.
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Thank you, Mr. Rosenstein, for doing what needed to be done.
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The sun seems to be shining brighter today.
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Rosenstein saves America
i agree that, given the unending rumor-bonging, a special counsel is probably the best course.
We also need Special Counsel to probe the Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch obstruction of justice, the Hillary obstruction of justice via email destruction, the Hillary violation of classified information laws, and the Obama unmasking scandals. So much corruption, so few special counsel.
We also need Special Counsel to probe the Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch obstruction of justice, the Hillary obstruction of justice via email destruction, the Hillary violation of classified information laws, and the Obama unmasking scandals. So much corruption, so few special counsel.
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A president purposefully ignorant about the workings of government, now gets the hard lesson he so richly deserves.
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Everything is a huge hoo-hah about who did what and when and who knew. The reality is that Russia has won, if the mission was to cripple the US Government.
A dysfunctional White House is now a non-functioning White House.
A dysfunctional Congress is now a non-functioning Congress.
With the executive and the legislature out of action, only the judiciary is left to dispose of.
However much one might abhor the politics of a Republican Legislature and a Trumpian Presidency, given what is going on in the world it is not good for the USA or its allies to have an ungoverned (ungovernable?) US of A. (Even this pinko liberal from across the pond knows the world needs the USA.)
A dysfunctional White House is now a non-functioning White House.
A dysfunctional Congress is now a non-functioning Congress.
With the executive and the legislature out of action, only the judiciary is left to dispose of.
However much one might abhor the politics of a Republican Legislature and a Trumpian Presidency, given what is going on in the world it is not good for the USA or its allies to have an ungoverned (ungovernable?) US of A. (Even this pinko liberal from across the pond knows the world needs the USA.)
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Matthew, we have had a dysfunctional congress since the 2010 elections. All they did in those years was obstruct obama's and democrat's ideas, vote to repeal the ACA (even though they had no plan on how to address healthcare), scream "Benghazi" and "email" so many times our collective ears hurt, and shut down the govt, which cost billions, refuse to even interview a reasonable candidate for SCOTUS, promise in advance to open HRC hearings the moment she was elected, promise in advance to NEVER consider any of her judicial appointments, even if it meant leaving SCOTUS down by potential 3 seats. We are ungovernable due to GOP actions which are borderline treasonous. We did not need to have an unfortunate minority elect Trump to turn congress into a mess.
I am definitely not a supporter of Mr. Trump. I have been aware of him for years while living in New York and have always thought him to be a braggart and a crass egoist. His faux populist stance and his fear mongering campaign confirmed my utter distaste for the man.
However, I am interested only in the truth regarding any improper contacts between his campaign and Russia. If there was nothing improper, then so be it and we should all move on. I believe that Mr. Mueller will conduct an honestnand thorough investigation into the matter.
Mr. Trump's constant complaints and the stonewalling by his toadies in the House have only served to hinder clearing up this controversy. If they simply let an investigation get completed then it will all be over. Let's hope it is sooner rather than later.
However, I am interested only in the truth regarding any improper contacts between his campaign and Russia. If there was nothing improper, then so be it and we should all move on. I believe that Mr. Mueller will conduct an honestnand thorough investigation into the matter.
Mr. Trump's constant complaints and the stonewalling by his toadies in the House have only served to hinder clearing up this controversy. If they simply let an investigation get completed then it will all be over. Let's hope it is sooner rather than later.
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Nice
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"raro antecedentem scelestum/deseruit pede Poena claudo"-- Horace, Odes III ii 31-32
roughly translated, "rarely has limping Justice let a criminal get away"
roughly translated, "rarely has limping Justice let a criminal get away"
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Agreed; till the Editorial Board does not like the outcome of the investigation. Then it will be Mueller who has been bought off and ruled a "toolee" to Trump.
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The judiciary system and the news media have been the critical " checks and balance" on this administration from day one. And the bully-in-chief is being called to account.
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Outstanding selection! Fair, honest, man of integrity. He will be an outstanding counter to Leaker of the United States (LOTUS) Trump and the spineless Republicans in Congress who would rather try to stay in power than to stand up for what is right. We know that we have a segment of the population that will continue to support the unqualified Trup no matter what he does because they are so insecure and so rabid about believing false promises that they cannot admit they made a grave mistake voting for the unqualified infantile White House occupant.
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President Trump, being the biggest warlock to sit in the Oval Office, is sort of right: This is the biggest witch (should be warlock) hunt in American history.
The President, alas, is not very good with words.
The President, alas, is not very good with words.
I don't think there is any question "if" Boy Wonder orders the firing of Mr. Mueller. It's a matter of when he does so. Never underestimate one who still hangs out in a playpen at age 70!
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Did Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who jailed countless journalists and had entire newspapers and radio and television stations shut, also present American President Trump with a sword or another "beautiful" weapon?
Did Vladimir Putin? Roy Cohn? Anthony Salerno? Paul Castellano? John Cody? Joseph Weichselbaum? Kenneth Shapiro? Daniel Sullivan? Bob Libutti? Jack Schwartz? John Staluppi? Felix Sater? Aleksander Mashkevich? Tevfik Arif? Viktor Khrapunov? Lev Leviev? Dmitry Rybolovlev?
Will Rodrigo Duterte?
Homeland Security Secretary Kelly, using a sword on the press is done by thugs and henchmen for radical extremist figurehead leadership, military junta presidents or unenlightened kings.
It's extremely bad taste to joke about it.
Have you at all been reading the press or just snapped up snippets, in part by hearsay?
Reading investigative journalism reports might give you a broader perspective on the world than you see a sword to "open" or slash up.
Do you opine the second amendment should be abused to repeal, decapitate and replace the first amendment?
As things stand, President Trump did not hesitate to answer yeah to that advice.
Another impeachable offense that the special counsel might want to look into?
Did Vladimir Putin? Roy Cohn? Anthony Salerno? Paul Castellano? John Cody? Joseph Weichselbaum? Kenneth Shapiro? Daniel Sullivan? Bob Libutti? Jack Schwartz? John Staluppi? Felix Sater? Aleksander Mashkevich? Tevfik Arif? Viktor Khrapunov? Lev Leviev? Dmitry Rybolovlev?
Will Rodrigo Duterte?
Homeland Security Secretary Kelly, using a sword on the press is done by thugs and henchmen for radical extremist figurehead leadership, military junta presidents or unenlightened kings.
It's extremely bad taste to joke about it.
Have you at all been reading the press or just snapped up snippets, in part by hearsay?
Reading investigative journalism reports might give you a broader perspective on the world than you see a sword to "open" or slash up.
Do you opine the second amendment should be abused to repeal, decapitate and replace the first amendment?
As things stand, President Trump did not hesitate to answer yeah to that advice.
Another impeachable offense that the special counsel might want to look into?
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What’s needed immediately is a giant statue of Rod Rosenstein on the White House lawn, preferably with sword in hand and mounted on horseback, with an inscription that reads “Hero of the Republic.”
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What no ice cream update? Shame on the sad NYT! One or two scoops? The rush to impeachment by the Democrats will backfire biggly now that "intent" has been set as precedent and codified as the law by the prior administration. I hope you can clearly see Thomas Jefferson (father of DNC) flip-flop in his grave!
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I hope Pence is included in this investigation. The Press has been overlooking Pence's "falsehoods" (or is that the same as lying?) on any number of occasions lately, and now we learn the Trump transition team knew Flynn was under investigation before the inauguration, so Pence surely knew all of this. Plus, anyone who would sign on to being Trump's VP must have a moral compass that is out of whack!
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Like the proverbial caged animal Trump is especially dangerous now. At this point he must be completely reigned in. He must understand that if he steps over a certain line immediate impeachment and imprisonment post Presidency are real possibilities.
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Jeff Sessions will be found to be complicit (of course) so hopefully Rosenstein will become our new AG
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Yeah, though if resignation or impeachment:
V.P Mike Pence, Speaker Paul Ryan, and Sec. of State Rex Tillerson are in line of succession.
Neither is one hundred percent politically attractive to this non GOPer.
PR could get his Ayn Rand birthday holiday through (but with snail mail delivery on Sundays for atheist.)
Tillerson personally complained about concern re mini earthquakes from fracking in his Dallas home burb.
In other words, thankfully, Presidential succession doesn't appear too dysfunctional: take that Canada & Mexico.
Pence is allegedly an Indiana puritan type, nothing great with that-- but do they let blue-noses into the Masons?
Is dope aka pot then to be doomed in unpopular prohibition enforcement.
If so, another constitutional amendment, boys and girls.
V.P Mike Pence, Speaker Paul Ryan, and Sec. of State Rex Tillerson are in line of succession.
Neither is one hundred percent politically attractive to this non GOPer.
PR could get his Ayn Rand birthday holiday through (but with snail mail delivery on Sundays for atheist.)
Tillerson personally complained about concern re mini earthquakes from fracking in his Dallas home burb.
In other words, thankfully, Presidential succession doesn't appear too dysfunctional: take that Canada & Mexico.
Pence is allegedly an Indiana puritan type, nothing great with that-- but do they let blue-noses into the Masons?
Is dope aka pot then to be doomed in unpopular prohibition enforcement.
If so, another constitutional amendment, boys and girls.
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Trump was hired for a job that he CANNOT do. It was clear from the beginning, that this 70 year old man with a long history of failure, lacking in work experience and comfortable with lies and obsfucstion---was never going to learn how to be anything, let alone president.
From my extensive work with research and data on Employment and Labor law and Executive hiring, he lacks every one of the fundamentals that outsiders from any industry needed to succeed in government.
I hope Trump resigns or is compelled to resign. The circumstantial evidence and analysis of facts seem to indicate that Flynn and others, acted on behalf of Trump in giving assurances and colluding to make Trump the King of America. Yes, he acts like a King with Ryan and McConnell as his servants.
And who knows, maybe, just maybe, the same main stream media, including the NYT that helped normalize and elect this overweight and woefully INCOMPETENT PRESIDENTwill finally uncover news that will force him to resign. Maybe, just maybe.
From my extensive work with research and data on Employment and Labor law and Executive hiring, he lacks every one of the fundamentals that outsiders from any industry needed to succeed in government.
I hope Trump resigns or is compelled to resign. The circumstantial evidence and analysis of facts seem to indicate that Flynn and others, acted on behalf of Trump in giving assurances and colluding to make Trump the King of America. Yes, he acts like a King with Ryan and McConnell as his servants.
And who knows, maybe, just maybe, the same main stream media, including the NYT that helped normalize and elect this overweight and woefully INCOMPETENT PRESIDENTwill finally uncover news that will force him to resign. Maybe, just maybe.
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Thank God !!!!.......good move Rod Rosentein......can "he" leap tall buildings
like Trump Tower in a single bound".....maybe not....but he sure can bring
Donald J. Trump down to size..
What a relief !!!!......
Well USA....we are back on track....and I hope there now will ...yes now
there will be a "clean sweep" of the rest of the nasty swamp dwellers.
like Trump Tower in a single bound".....maybe not....but he sure can bring
Donald J. Trump down to size..
What a relief !!!!......
Well USA....we are back on track....and I hope there now will ...yes now
there will be a "clean sweep" of the rest of the nasty swamp dwellers.
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America needs a special prosecutor who doesn't have to report to Rosenstein Too bad you don't know that.
I'm 68 years old and I have never --NEVER-- seen a president like this one. Trump is a narcissist first and foremost, a pathological liar, a sleazy, sleazy guy very much in the mold of his mentor, the infamous Roy Cohn, a delusional whiner who has brought ALL of his huge problems on himself, while the former birther whines like a baby about how unfairly he has been treated. Look. The guy is mental. He needs to be removed from office as soon as possible. He is totally unfit.
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All the accolades for Poppy's Boy Boy Mueller could indicate the media is ready to ease up on their 'fake news'. Not to give Trump a break, more likely to salvage what is left of their reputations. Beside, they get more ratings talking about Trump. Or, or, they hope Poppy's Boy Boy Mueller will seek revenge --- for The Donald lambasting Poppy's Boy and Poppy's Other Boy in the GOP Primary; in which they would vindictively delight. Though why I've never been quite sure.
Wonder how long Rosenstein will last. And surely McCabe's tenure as acting FBI director will be as short as Trump can manage. Neither has demonstrated loyalty to Trump, so their days are numbered. Meanwhile, an alternative reality exists on Fox News and right-wing media...
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iow, bread and circuses...
while the upper crust laughs all the way to the offshore bank?
down with kelptocracy, up with democracy.
it's cheaper.
while the upper crust laughs all the way to the offshore bank?
down with kelptocracy, up with democracy.
it's cheaper.
I am at a loss here. Every White House description is the corner condo with a tremendous view. " Maddog" whatever. Where is the White House Press Release stating the "amazing" Special Counsel that the FBI just appointed ?
It never ends. This isn't a presidency. It's an online "whinery"
Mr. Trump just tweeted, with the most whining tone, and a big spelling error:
"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!"
Councel? Might be time to study more instead of obsess. And not be so obsessed with Russia. After firing the FBI director, you put out the welcome mat for the Russians, even for the guy involved in the big time scandal with
your man Flynn. You can't demand loyalty from the FBI director.
And Obama had a scandal-free presidency. Not one personal scandal.
Three months of this presidency---fully exhausting.
Mr. Trump just tweeted, with the most whining tone, and a big spelling error:
"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!"
Councel? Might be time to study more instead of obsess. And not be so obsessed with Russia. After firing the FBI director, you put out the welcome mat for the Russians, even for the guy involved in the big time scandal with
your man Flynn. You can't demand loyalty from the FBI director.
And Obama had a scandal-free presidency. Not one personal scandal.
Three months of this presidency---fully exhausting.
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You have to love Putin's offer of the transcripts of last week's WH meeting. Hilarious how he baits the orange one -- like a cat with a doomed mouse. It's like Letterman all over again.
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Actually, he had been corrected for "council" (instead of counsel) in a prior tweet, so he knows he was wrong, but, to your point, didn't check prior feedback, before making a different spelling error. The "councel" one has since been deleted. That's a seriously lazy and disinterested "intellect (using the term loosely)."
And, what is up with that? Becuase he uses his private account instead of @POTUS, there is no need to preserve the records? I'm sure someone has a screen cap of every tweet, however.
And, what is up with that? Becuase he uses his private account instead of @POTUS, there is no need to preserve the records? I'm sure someone has a screen cap of every tweet, however.
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There is an archive of all Trump's tweets.
Those he deleted as well. It has both.
This site is easier to handle than have to be a part of trump twitter pages, Russian bots, Alec Jones alt right types and general crazies.
Altho I did go to Trump's when I originally posted. Here is that great archive. You'll love the lay out of it. It is a great resource for our upcoming books, ha ha.
http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/
Those he deleted as well. It has both.
This site is easier to handle than have to be a part of trump twitter pages, Russian bots, Alec Jones alt right types and general crazies.
Altho I did go to Trump's when I originally posted. Here is that great archive. You'll love the lay out of it. It is a great resource for our upcoming books, ha ha.
http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/
Thank you Mr. Mueller.
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I am probably one of the few progressives (or leftie if you wish) hoping that Trump does not get impeached. Don't get me wrong - I think it the absolute right thing that he, his campaign, and associates are properly and fully investigated. My hope is all this turmoil will bring a sharp end to loony and destructive GOP policy plans. Hopefully there shall be no tax reforms that favour the rich, Obamacare saved, environmental regulations not gutted, Dodd-Frank Act saved, etc. . .
yesterday was the first day that I have felt hopeful since the election. this country cannot be run like the mafia, this country cannot be run like russia. we are a land of law and no person is above it. we the people need to take back political offices and demand truth and fairness from those we elect and from ourselves. our nation is truly divided over who is currently in office, this president could very well incite a civil war. our country has become a farce and i shudder everytime i think about all the ugly things that man said and those that voted for him despite or because of it.
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which laws are we a land of? y'all liberals are quite deft at ignoring laws that don't fit your definition of the amerikan way
The base just doesn't care.
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Here's something to think about: Former FBI Director Robert Mueller has power to prosecute any crimes uncovered.
It's a mandate---and a broad one, related to "any matters that arose, or may arise directly from the investigation."
Bottom line: You rang the alarm by doing something so utterly massive as firing the Director of the FBI.......having previously rung the alarm in making a threat to former Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates just before she was about to testify, having been called to speak on how she warned you about a staffer's conduct as related to Russian ties.
It's a mandate---and a broad one, related to "any matters that arose, or may arise directly from the investigation."
Bottom line: You rang the alarm by doing something so utterly massive as firing the Director of the FBI.......having previously rung the alarm in making a threat to former Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates just before she was about to testify, having been called to speak on how she warned you about a staffer's conduct as related to Russian ties.
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May 18, 2017
Dear Mister Trump - welcome to the big league, and the rule for transparency in political actions albeit: electronic social media, elite journalism or our FBI all for safekeeping America's rule of law.
"I didn't know the organization, but the one thing you can say about the FBI, it's tremendously professional."
Robert Mueller
brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/robert_mueller.html
jja Manhattan, N.Y.
Dear Mister Trump - welcome to the big league, and the rule for transparency in political actions albeit: electronic social media, elite journalism or our FBI all for safekeeping America's rule of law.
"I didn't know the organization, but the one thing you can say about the FBI, it's tremendously professional."
Robert Mueller
brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/robert_mueller.html
jja Manhattan, N.Y.
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How will President Trump be able to resist the urge to fire Mueller? Then what?
What if he does not find anything?
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The Times states that Trump can not fire Mr. Mueller. According to CNN Panel
Trump can still fire Mr. Mueller. Can the Times clarify this point?
Trump can still fire Mr. Mueller. Can the Times clarify this point?
I would like for Mr. Robert Mueller and the FBI to also investigate the reasons why any (and all) of our “MAINSTREAM REPUBLICAN” and “MAINSTREAM DEMOCRATIC” elected US officials voted to create any and all of their new US federal legislation and executive contract award actions by this and all past administrations.
This should investigate all topic such as creating more tax loopholes, more Free Trade Agreements that relocate US jobs to foreign nations, Offshore Banking Laws for Tax avoidance, repeal of the Glass Stegall Act, Solyndra government money "PAY TO PLAY" type loan guarantee giveaways, CGI Federal NO-BID government “PAY TO PLAY” type contracts for many times the amount that other companies would create that software, US Uranium mine titles to Russian Businessmen, granting the Hughes Aircraft Company’s top secret military rocket software export license to Communist China when Communist Chinese rockets would not fly on course, environmental damage limitation laws, and other Federal Government actions that only benefit the various “FOUNDATION DONORS”, the “DONOR CLASS” clients of the Washington lobbyists, and the PACs (foreign and domestic).
This should investigate all topic such as creating more tax loopholes, more Free Trade Agreements that relocate US jobs to foreign nations, Offshore Banking Laws for Tax avoidance, repeal of the Glass Stegall Act, Solyndra government money "PAY TO PLAY" type loan guarantee giveaways, CGI Federal NO-BID government “PAY TO PLAY” type contracts for many times the amount that other companies would create that software, US Uranium mine titles to Russian Businessmen, granting the Hughes Aircraft Company’s top secret military rocket software export license to Communist China when Communist Chinese rockets would not fly on course, environmental damage limitation laws, and other Federal Government actions that only benefit the various “FOUNDATION DONORS”, the “DONOR CLASS” clients of the Washington lobbyists, and the PACs (foreign and domestic).
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US citizens need to eliminate the institutionalized "PAY TO PLAY" criminal activities from our US Federal government elected officials as the current normal way of doing business.
Foreign Manufacturers and foreign governments probably think that they paid for NAFTA and all of that that other Free Trade Agreement legislation, MFNs, PNTRs for Communist China, and that Hughes Aircraft Co. secret US Military Rocket Technology export license for Communist China “fair and square” in accordance with the prevailing INSTITUTIONALIZED federal government “PAY TO PLAY” bribery procedures (google Chinagate Political) to acquire such government actions.
US MIC Military Equipment Manufacturers and foreign governments such as Saudia Arabia probably think that they paid for all of those F-15 Military Equipment export purchase licenses “fair and square” in accordance with the prevailing INSTITUTIONALIZED federal government “PAY TO PLAY” bribery procedures with payments to the various "FOUNDATIONS" that benefit various elected politicians and their families as required to acquire such government contracts and other actions.
US Businesses probably think that they paid our elected US Presidents, US Senators and US Representatives for all of those MIC contracts and Tax Loopholes “fair and square” in accordance with the prevailing INSTITUTIONALIZED federal government “PAY TO PLAY” bribery to acquire such government actions.
Foreign Manufacturers and foreign governments probably think that they paid for NAFTA and all of that that other Free Trade Agreement legislation, MFNs, PNTRs for Communist China, and that Hughes Aircraft Co. secret US Military Rocket Technology export license for Communist China “fair and square” in accordance with the prevailing INSTITUTIONALIZED federal government “PAY TO PLAY” bribery procedures (google Chinagate Political) to acquire such government actions.
US MIC Military Equipment Manufacturers and foreign governments such as Saudia Arabia probably think that they paid for all of those F-15 Military Equipment export purchase licenses “fair and square” in accordance with the prevailing INSTITUTIONALIZED federal government “PAY TO PLAY” bribery procedures with payments to the various "FOUNDATIONS" that benefit various elected politicians and their families as required to acquire such government contracts and other actions.
US Businesses probably think that they paid our elected US Presidents, US Senators and US Representatives for all of those MIC contracts and Tax Loopholes “fair and square” in accordance with the prevailing INSTITUTIONALIZED federal government “PAY TO PLAY” bribery to acquire such government actions.
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Am I the only person upset about the federal taxes spent for President Obama's politically influenced “PAY TO PLAY” NO-BID contract awards, gigantic Military-Industrial Complex type NO-BID no-bid military contract(s), pork barrel NO-BID contract(s) for infrastructure improvements, Solyndra PAY TO PLAY business loan default deal, CGI Federal political power influenced PAY TO PLAY 650 million dollar contract award to create the "Obamacare exchange web portal" and other no-bid federal contracts awarded to political campaign contributors and others represented by lobbyists for contract amounts much larger than would have been bid by other contractors are a waste of taxpayer's money?
Does anybody else think that all of the Obama administration's "PAY TO PLAY" no-bid contract awards to campaign contributors such as the $650,000,000.00 to CGI Federal for the ACA software contract which could have been acquired for a small percentage of that amount was another gigantic waste of taxpayer's money?
Ask any of your computer programmer friends how much their company would have charged to create the "Obamacare exchange web portal" website.
Was the remainder of that $650 million CGI Federal government no-bid contract just "PAY TO PLAY" money paid to President Obama’s friends and campaign contributors?
I believe that some of the people in President Obama’s government administration should be arrested, tried, convicted and then sent to prison if US citizens want this type of corruption to dis-continue.
Does anybody else think that all of the Obama administration's "PAY TO PLAY" no-bid contract awards to campaign contributors such as the $650,000,000.00 to CGI Federal for the ACA software contract which could have been acquired for a small percentage of that amount was another gigantic waste of taxpayer's money?
Ask any of your computer programmer friends how much their company would have charged to create the "Obamacare exchange web portal" website.
Was the remainder of that $650 million CGI Federal government no-bid contract just "PAY TO PLAY" money paid to President Obama’s friends and campaign contributors?
I believe that some of the people in President Obama’s government administration should be arrested, tried, convicted and then sent to prison if US citizens want this type of corruption to dis-continue.
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It's pretty sad when it takes all this space just to say the same thing -- and it's always the same argument.
Too bad you have to equivocate Trump's actions by always comparing them to Obama.
Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
Too bad you have to equivocate Trump's actions by always comparing them to Obama.
Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
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Instead of putting anything ahead of the party, Republicans better get a grip on who the people voted for. It wasn't the party. It was Donald Trump.
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It appears now that Donald Trump was correct: the system is rigged, though he may very well be the primary rigger.
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The Democrats better be careful...real careful. After 10 months of bi partisan investigation we have zero evidence. Now, we have a "special counsel". This investigation will take considerable time and drag through the next few years. It doesn't appear that any collusion occurred based on what we know today, but you can bet this investigation will expose some ugly warts on both sides of aisle.
I wonder how the electoral base will react come 2018 and 2020. If the Democrats who just finished losing everything possible think they are a slam dunk in 2018 and 2020, they had better take a moment to review their most recent slam dunk known as Hillary Clinton for President.
I wonder how the electoral base will react come 2018 and 2020. If the Democrats who just finished losing everything possible think they are a slam dunk in 2018 and 2020, they had better take a moment to review their most recent slam dunk known as Hillary Clinton for President.
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So, let's see, four months into his presidency he has:
Fired the acting AG for telling the truth about Flynn and his Muslim Ban;
Fired NSA director Flynn for lying to the VP, and still moons over him like a rejected lover;
Accuses the former president of "tapping" him with no evidence;
Is bellicose about Steve Bannon being on the security council, then takes him off without a reason;
Pushes Congress to enact a law to abolish the ACA, but has no alternative;
Defunds Planned Parenthood on religious grounds;
Issues a "beautiful" one page tax reform bill which cuts taxes for the rich, but not much else;
Has the FBI director to dinner and tries to twist his arm to no investigate Flynn, while insisting that the FBI's loyalty should be to him, not the country's;
Talks about national security issues openly at a banquet, letting the aide carrying the briefcase with nuclear codes be photographed and named;
Appoints a new AG who had to recuse himself from any Russian investigation for lying about his meetings with them during the campaign, but then wrote a memo for the president recommending the firing of the FBI director investigating those claims;
Fired the FBI director for being a "showboat";
Creates a committee to investigate the "massive fraud" of his election, because "3 million" people opted against him illegally;
Gives intel to the Russians in a meeting the American press was excluded but not Russian press, which may endanger the lives of people working against ISIS;
Fired the acting AG for telling the truth about Flynn and his Muslim Ban;
Fired NSA director Flynn for lying to the VP, and still moons over him like a rejected lover;
Accuses the former president of "tapping" him with no evidence;
Is bellicose about Steve Bannon being on the security council, then takes him off without a reason;
Pushes Congress to enact a law to abolish the ACA, but has no alternative;
Defunds Planned Parenthood on religious grounds;
Issues a "beautiful" one page tax reform bill which cuts taxes for the rich, but not much else;
Has the FBI director to dinner and tries to twist his arm to no investigate Flynn, while insisting that the FBI's loyalty should be to him, not the country's;
Talks about national security issues openly at a banquet, letting the aide carrying the briefcase with nuclear codes be photographed and named;
Appoints a new AG who had to recuse himself from any Russian investigation for lying about his meetings with them during the campaign, but then wrote a memo for the president recommending the firing of the FBI director investigating those claims;
Fired the FBI director for being a "showboat";
Creates a committee to investigate the "massive fraud" of his election, because "3 million" people opted against him illegally;
Gives intel to the Russians in a meeting the American press was excluded but not Russian press, which may endanger the lives of people working against ISIS;
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All true, except for him lying to the vice president. The VP knew. Au contraire the vice president knowingly lied to the American people. So much for christian zealots.
The Times needs to correct the summary of this article that appears on the home page of its digital edition, which states that Trump can't fire the special counsel. He can, by firing people one after another at the Justice Dept. until he gets to today's version of Robert Bork, who DID fire Archibald Cox.
Correction: If people worry about President Donald Trump being controlled by Russia President Vladimir Putin. What about the Mafia? ...... .
So we now have a special prosecutor (which is a good thing, finally). but Congress can run their own "inquiry"....geez, who's left to the country?
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Mueller is a suitable stop-gap appointment on the road to a special prosecutor, who is supported in fact-gathering by an independent commission.
Trump and those around him will obstruct (and eventually fire) Mueller IF he digs in all the right places, and Mueller's own Manafort-connection makes him suspect.
You got too happy too fast NYTIMES.
Trump and those around him will obstruct (and eventually fire) Mueller IF he digs in all the right places, and Mueller's own Manafort-connection makes him suspect.
You got too happy too fast NYTIMES.
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A simple question. Sure, Comey's memos of his meetings/conversations with Trump should be turned over and their contents revealed. But, inevitably, Republicans and fair minded people will likewise demand that Comey also produce all memos he drafted after meetings/conversations with Obama/Holder/Lynch regarding any aspect of Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal, Hillary's emails, Bill Clinton's surreptitious meeting with Lynch where they said they talked about grandchildren that Lynch doesn't have?
Do you really think massive obstruction of justice by Obama and his cronies would not be revealed? Let's say crimes by Trump are also found by Mueller. It would be quite entertaining to see the NYT crowd try to spin this as somehow a call for jailing Trump, but not Obama, Holder, Lynch, Hillary, because blacks, women, you know.
Is their any honest, fair minded person at the NYT? Seriously.
Do you really think massive obstruction of justice by Obama and his cronies would not be revealed? Let's say crimes by Trump are also found by Mueller. It would be quite entertaining to see the NYT crowd try to spin this as somehow a call for jailing Trump, but not Obama, Holder, Lynch, Hillary, because blacks, women, you know.
Is their any honest, fair minded person at the NYT? Seriously.
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He didn't release tax documents.
So, conflicts of interest unknown.
He claims trivial Russian ties.
Both his sons quoted otherwise.
Intelligence reveals Russia hacks.
He disputes this.
FBI investigates collusion.
He fires FBI director.
FBI heroic when dogging Hillary.
FBI shameful when dogging Him.
He said director disliked by FBI.
FBI replacement says not true.
He gives Russia Israeli info.
Russia supports Israeli enemy.
Press is ok when grilling Hillary.
Otherwise, Enemies of the People.
Impeach.
So, conflicts of interest unknown.
He claims trivial Russian ties.
Both his sons quoted otherwise.
Intelligence reveals Russia hacks.
He disputes this.
FBI investigates collusion.
He fires FBI director.
FBI heroic when dogging Hillary.
FBI shameful when dogging Him.
He said director disliked by FBI.
FBI replacement says not true.
He gives Russia Israeli info.
Russia supports Israeli enemy.
Press is ok when grilling Hillary.
Otherwise, Enemies of the People.
Impeach.
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Over the past months, The Times has published a variety of perspectives on our troubled President and the various possible means of removing him from office. I've crystallized all these observations to the following:
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. He can't be trusted to execute his duties. He is a risk to the republic and should be relieved of duty legally and swiftly.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. He can't be trusted to execute his duties. He is a risk to the republic and should be relieved of duty legally and swiftly.
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I would like to point out Rosenstein appointed Mueller. The deputy (assistant?) AG received 90 affirmative votes. After Trump and or Jeff ordered him to write the memo on Comey then used it as pretext, he didn't hunker down but did the right thing
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The fact that America needs a special counsel to investigate Russian interference in our last Presidential election pales in comparison to the fact that America needs an honorable honest credible new F.B.I. Director to occupy the building named after the corrupt criminal bigot J. Edgar Hoover.
Plus Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, III is still acting as the Attorney General of the Confederate States of America while Donald John Trump occupies the Oval Office of our White House trying to convert it into a regional office of his real estate mass media golfing hotel casino empire.
Plus Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, III is still acting as the Attorney General of the Confederate States of America while Donald John Trump occupies the Oval Office of our White House trying to convert it into a regional office of his real estate mass media golfing hotel casino empire.
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The level of editorial and reader naiveté here is truly astounding. Consider saving your wild applause until reality transpires.
Warning: Your jubilance may be tempered by reality — once again.
Warning: Your jubilance may be tempered by reality — once again.
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one of the most likely people to be indicted from this investigation is J. Edgar Comey. Sitting on an obstruction of Justice charge against the President because it had more blackmail value to himself than to justice is a crime.
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If the investigation centres around General Flynn and not on the money trail from Russia and Ukraine into Trump´s coffers it will be hoax.
Having the Kushner family lawyer appointed as Counsel does not look good to start with.
Follow the money , the purchasesm the transfers, the fees and we will know hat is going on. Otherwise we will not.
Having the Kushner family lawyer appointed as Counsel does not look good to start with.
Follow the money , the purchasesm the transfers, the fees and we will know hat is going on. Otherwise we will not.
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What will the GOP do if Mueller finds evidence that there was criminal activity on the part of Trump, Trump's advisors, and that it did affect the election by keeping Clinton out? And how will the people who voted feel? I do not like feeling as if my vote doesn't count. I do not like the sneaking suspicion I have that it no longer matters what is found because the GOP will deny all of it unless it agrees with their version of reality. I hope that Mueller isn't sacrificed in the game of charades that is going on.
Whatever integrity McConnell and Ryan and the rest of the GOP VIPs had has vanished with the election and inauguration of Trump. Therefore I fully expect that they will not cooperate, will encourage Trump and his people not to cooperate, and that the joke our government has become will continue.
Whatever integrity McConnell and Ryan and the rest of the GOP VIPs had has vanished with the election and inauguration of Trump. Therefore I fully expect that they will not cooperate, will encourage Trump and his people not to cooperate, and that the joke our government has become will continue.
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America, the Founders are watching.
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85% of Republicans would think this is ok, v 38% of all Americans.
we had a Civil War to prevent the nation from splitting into two countries.
now, it seems we are on two planets.
sad!
we had a Civil War to prevent the nation from splitting into two countries.
now, it seems we are on two planets.
sad!
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Among all chaos, Putin offered a complete transcript of Trump-Lavarov conversation to prove that nothing improper was discussed or shared ...
A proactive offer from US's arch-enemy who has done everything but to publicly sworn taking down the US and its democratic institution ...
And not much reaction from the media ...
???
A proactive offer from US's arch-enemy who has done everything but to publicly sworn taking down the US and its democratic institution ...
And not much reaction from the media ...
???
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Why do we need a Special Counsel to determine Trump's collusions and thus unfitness for the job of President? The NYT has numerous articles depicting the number of times Trump lies outright. The people of our country deserve a President who they can place their full faith and trust in. A President who continually lies to the citizens of the United States is untrustworthy and thus unfit to be President.
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This will be Mr. Trump's worst nightmare.
From the outset, Mr. Trump has disagreed with the investigations surrounding possible links between his election campaign and the Russians. Because, his affinity to the Russian leader was more important to him.
If only Mr. Trump had shown support to the ongoing investigations, things would have been different. He would have proved to everyone that his conscience is clear. But, by firing Mr. Comey, Mr. Trump only made matters worse. This has only led to many questions to Mr. Trump's actions, and finding it to be troubling and of concern to all.
It would have been far worse, if Mr. Trump had decided to fire Mr. Rosenstein. Because, we have seen where Mr. Trump's decisions being based on his instincts, rather than following good counsel.
There were several calls on leaders of both Houses for the appointment of a Special Counsel. The leaders either ignored these calls or felt unimportant for such an appointment. It is unclear what some of these elected members are thinking. Most of them did not come forward to ask questions. Were they more concerned of their future election votes, or just trying to appease the President?
While the decision to appoint the long awaited Special Counsel is welcome news, we have all to see the outcome of the inquiry, and see what impact that would have on everything around us.
From the outset, Mr. Trump has disagreed with the investigations surrounding possible links between his election campaign and the Russians. Because, his affinity to the Russian leader was more important to him.
If only Mr. Trump had shown support to the ongoing investigations, things would have been different. He would have proved to everyone that his conscience is clear. But, by firing Mr. Comey, Mr. Trump only made matters worse. This has only led to many questions to Mr. Trump's actions, and finding it to be troubling and of concern to all.
It would have been far worse, if Mr. Trump had decided to fire Mr. Rosenstein. Because, we have seen where Mr. Trump's decisions being based on his instincts, rather than following good counsel.
There were several calls on leaders of both Houses for the appointment of a Special Counsel. The leaders either ignored these calls or felt unimportant for such an appointment. It is unclear what some of these elected members are thinking. Most of them did not come forward to ask questions. Were they more concerned of their future election votes, or just trying to appease the President?
While the decision to appoint the long awaited Special Counsel is welcome news, we have all to see the outcome of the inquiry, and see what impact that would have on everything around us.
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Hopefully he starts with demanding Trump's tax returns.
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I people worry about President Donald Trump being controlled by Russia President Vladimir Putin. What about the Mafia?
Is it really established that the Watergate investigation with the F.B.I. and Deep Throat, Mark Felts, that this is similar with Russia and the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election and former F.B.I. Director James Comey's recent dinner with Trump?
It's just that the F.B.I. has a history with the Mafia whether pro or con and before Donald Trump was President his casinos, not disclosing his tax returns to the public now that he's President, well only one can imagine some kind of connection there as well.
Will the truth ever be revealed or will it be a missing person's case like Jimmy Hoffa?
Is it really established that the Watergate investigation with the F.B.I. and Deep Throat, Mark Felts, that this is similar with Russia and the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election and former F.B.I. Director James Comey's recent dinner with Trump?
It's just that the F.B.I. has a history with the Mafia whether pro or con and before Donald Trump was President his casinos, not disclosing his tax returns to the public now that he's President, well only one can imagine some kind of connection there as well.
Will the truth ever be revealed or will it be a missing person's case like Jimmy Hoffa?
Wondering how far this investigation will go in uncovering the administration's Russia links. Will this address issues beyond the campaign such as the appointment of cabinet members who are tied to Russia?
Trump preached anti globalism yet his business web has strands in every part of the world. This President wants to be the British tea company that ran English economics and created an Empire.
Trump preached anti globalism yet his business web has strands in every part of the world. This President wants to be the British tea company that ran English economics and created an Empire.
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Mueller and Comey have known each other for quite a few years and obviously will be working together again. Trump is finished.
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So, can Mueller acquire Trump's income tax statements?
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This Special Prosecutor, Robert Mueller, the esteemed Director of the FBI for 12 years under both Presidents Bush and Obama who will conduct America's independent Russian Investigation allegations, is the man for this Herculean task. Mueller's appointment by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is the thin edge of the wedge of removing President Trump from the 45th Presidency. Will the President and First Lady still make their week-long and event-filled first foreign trip on Air Force One, starting on Friday to Saudi Arabia, then Israel (meeting with Netanyahu and Abbas - separately), then Rome and the Vatican and meeting with Pope Francis,and then to Brussels, Belgium, for lunch with Emmanuel Macron, new President of France, and the NATO Meeting and finally Sicily, Italy for the G7 Summit. This staggering itinerary would be difficult for Royals to accomplish, let alone our stressed and elderly President and his lovely First Lady Melania, who will be accompanying him. Mueller's effort will not be Nixon/Cox Redux of 1973. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed hoim Special Counsel assured us we can have "full confidence in the outcome" of the investigation. And so, in due time, we shall.
I respectfully dissent on this one. I do not believe Robert Mueller III is a proper choice for Special Counsel for the following reasons:
First, he and James Comey served the highly partisan Republican and unsuccessful Bush II-Cheney administration which is disqualifying for reasons spelled out below;
Second: Mueller III and Comey are friends and associates which should disqualify him. While Rosenstein's May 9, 2017 Memorandum to Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was shoddily written he was exactly right in spelling out the misconduct of Comey during the 2016 Presidential Campaign. Comey could be prosecuted for a violation of the Hatch Act and Abuse of Power. All one would have to do is prove exactly what Comey did and said during the campaign AND all of the Justice Department written rules, regulations. policies and procedures and he would be convicted. Bobby III sticks will not do this.
Moreover, the Guradian in its Novermer 4, 2016 article titled "FBI is Trumpland" quotes a Republican FBI Agent in NYC as saying there are so many Trump supporters the call it "Trumplandia".
The Federal Bureau of Investigation had a liaison with the Trump Campaign in the persons of Rudy Guiliani and James Kallstrom.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation cordinated with the Trump Campaign with Guiliani appearing on Fox News and telling of an "October Surprise from the FBI two days before Comey's letter.
Mueller is not the guy to prosecute Comey or fix the FBI. Democracy must be restored.
First, he and James Comey served the highly partisan Republican and unsuccessful Bush II-Cheney administration which is disqualifying for reasons spelled out below;
Second: Mueller III and Comey are friends and associates which should disqualify him. While Rosenstein's May 9, 2017 Memorandum to Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was shoddily written he was exactly right in spelling out the misconduct of Comey during the 2016 Presidential Campaign. Comey could be prosecuted for a violation of the Hatch Act and Abuse of Power. All one would have to do is prove exactly what Comey did and said during the campaign AND all of the Justice Department written rules, regulations. policies and procedures and he would be convicted. Bobby III sticks will not do this.
Moreover, the Guradian in its Novermer 4, 2016 article titled "FBI is Trumpland" quotes a Republican FBI Agent in NYC as saying there are so many Trump supporters the call it "Trumplandia".
The Federal Bureau of Investigation had a liaison with the Trump Campaign in the persons of Rudy Guiliani and James Kallstrom.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation cordinated with the Trump Campaign with Guiliani appearing on Fox News and telling of an "October Surprise from the FBI two days before Comey's letter.
Mueller is not the guy to prosecute Comey or fix the FBI. Democracy must be restored.
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I thought "Angry America" has had it with DC insiders ?
Wasn't the NYT editorial board in favor of the office of special prosecutor before it was against it -- and has it now flipped a third time?
What a difference a new Administration makes.
Didn't Acting FBI director McCabe recently reassure Congress that Comey's firing had not affected the agency's investigation of Russian involvement in the last election?
Aren't both the Senate and the House conducting their own investigations?
So will the Times explain why we need a special prosecutor? Why don't we just let the FBI and Congress get on with their jobs?
Won't the Times admit that this is a manufactured crisis? After huffing and puffing for months, Trump's enemies still have not produced a smoking gun. A wisp or two of smoke is not a smoking gun. And it certainly isn't probable cause for a special prosecutor.
The Times has never accepted the results of the election. (No, I did not vote for Trump). How long is the Times going to help Chuck Schumer and the Democrats take the country hostage in order to prosecute their feud with Donald Trump?
What a difference a new Administration makes.
Didn't Acting FBI director McCabe recently reassure Congress that Comey's firing had not affected the agency's investigation of Russian involvement in the last election?
Aren't both the Senate and the House conducting their own investigations?
So will the Times explain why we need a special prosecutor? Why don't we just let the FBI and Congress get on with their jobs?
Won't the Times admit that this is a manufactured crisis? After huffing and puffing for months, Trump's enemies still have not produced a smoking gun. A wisp or two of smoke is not a smoking gun. And it certainly isn't probable cause for a special prosecutor.
The Times has never accepted the results of the election. (No, I did not vote for Trump). How long is the Times going to help Chuck Schumer and the Democrats take the country hostage in order to prosecute their feud with Donald Trump?
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Thank God. Maybe now the rest of the world can stop laughing at us and catch their breath.
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Far overdue.
Just to be clear, when these guys went to stop warrantless wiretapping at Ashcroft's bedside, they DIDN'T STOP THE WIRETAPPING !!!!
They're hailed as heroes for accomplishing something that never actually happened. Bush kept on wiretapping for months, and Comey and Mueller stood idly by.
So the next time you hear this story about Ashcroft, remember that they didn't actually stop the wiretapping,
They're hailed as heroes for accomplishing something that never actually happened. Bush kept on wiretapping for months, and Comey and Mueller stood idly by.
So the next time you hear this story about Ashcroft, remember that they didn't actually stop the wiretapping,
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"Bush kept on wiretapping for months, and Comey and Mueller stood idly by."
If you'd have checked your facts, which hasn't happened as of yet, you'd know that the EO was revised, after which it was deemed legal. At that time, there was nothing they (Comey and Mueller) could, legally, do.
If you'd have checked your facts, which hasn't happened as of yet, you'd know that the EO was revised, after which it was deemed legal. At that time, there was nothing they (Comey and Mueller) could, legally, do.
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When anonymous sources told us Obama was from Kenya, I didnt believe them. When they said, before that, the Clintons murdered Vince Foster, I didnt believe them.
Should Mueller finally conclude that there was no Russian collusion, how many here will believe him? How many reactionaries will hang their heads in shame that they destroyed their integrity and diminished the respect they are owed, all while the problems of the world marched past them unbowed and unbothered?
Or will they demand an investigation of Mueller too? When will this opposition escalate beyond the mob in print we see every day? When will it be too late? Abuse is always carried out in the name of love. Heaven help us.
Should Mueller finally conclude that there was no Russian collusion, how many here will believe him? How many reactionaries will hang their heads in shame that they destroyed their integrity and diminished the respect they are owed, all while the problems of the world marched past them unbowed and unbothered?
Or will they demand an investigation of Mueller too? When will this opposition escalate beyond the mob in print we see every day? When will it be too late? Abuse is always carried out in the name of love. Heaven help us.
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I agree that direct collusion by Donald Trump is highly unlikely, that his many sycophants, who would have never seen political influence might have been reckless, certainly. Mr. Trump has proven himself to be less than detail minded and a bit careless with his language. All of his problems center really from not using his expert resources wisely. Oh sure, he is incurious, intellectually shallow, and narcissistic, but a bit of listening to communication experts would have defused the situation he is presently in. Honestly, what would you have the rest of us do? Ignore the blatant ineptitude before us? I will speak for myself and say I am tired of hearing non-stop Trump on twitter, the television, and the newspaper. I would like to go back to at least the feeling that the world is not going to suddenly have a major crisis because someone was too obtuse to know what they were doing. Simply, I want to know exactly what happened with all the Russia loving so uncharacteristic of our former administrations. If the President did not collude but was merely the beneficiary, so be it. But we were not getting anywhere toward normalcy the way things were going. Never mind why the big deal about the tax returns. It just goes on and on.
You are comparing apples and oranges. Wild theories of the lunacy and conspiracy flavors, versus an investigation into how much, if any, fire there is that is related to a lot of real smoke.
There is no end game for the Democrats unless you count election day in 2020. Everything that is being done since election day is built around obstruction. This will continue as they try and run out the clock on the Trump administration.
If they ever impeach Trump they will do the same thing to his replacement Pence and so on and so on. I think this strategy will grow old really fast with the majority of the country and backfire on the Dems.
If they ever impeach Trump they will do the same thing to his replacement Pence and so on and so on. I think this strategy will grow old really fast with the majority of the country and backfire on the Dems.
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Who's been Trumped now?
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Rod Rosenstein redeemed himself and his reputation by appointing Robert Mueller. A wise move and he is absolutely correct, his creditability, and the creditability of the DOJ has been re-established.
Trump is like a contagion of corruption. I believe Mr. Mueller will be quite able to withstand his abuse of power and any further attempts to squash an ongoing investigation that concerns all Americans as far as national security and trust in our government.
Results of this investigation aside, Trump cannot do his job, he is incapable of doing his job and is in over his head. In addition to his ignorance there is an appalling lack of care and concern for America.
It is always Trump First with Trump and he cannot transcend his own selfish, greedy, self-aggrandizing needs to attend to ours. His list of impeachable offenses grow daily, and he is a danger to national security, and foreign relations. Congress should pressure Mr. Trump to resign with or without the results of an investigation that may continue for months. Time America does not have to survive under Trump.
Trump is like a contagion of corruption. I believe Mr. Mueller will be quite able to withstand his abuse of power and any further attempts to squash an ongoing investigation that concerns all Americans as far as national security and trust in our government.
Results of this investigation aside, Trump cannot do his job, he is incapable of doing his job and is in over his head. In addition to his ignorance there is an appalling lack of care and concern for America.
It is always Trump First with Trump and he cannot transcend his own selfish, greedy, self-aggrandizing needs to attend to ours. His list of impeachable offenses grow daily, and he is a danger to national security, and foreign relations. Congress should pressure Mr. Trump to resign with or without the results of an investigation that may continue for months. Time America does not have to survive under Trump.
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I hope this will bring answers to these very serious questions. I hope they will be made public. Unfortunately, the Trump White House, is now famous for scapegoating. One day the person is akin to a saint and the next the devil. Sometimes within a matter of hours. Does this tell anybody anything about Trump's mercurial personality and ability to spin 'alternate truths'?
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Glad to see a big lesson was not lost on Rosenstein after being willing to be complicit in the firing of Comey by the every act of writing that memo. He must have sat down, had a good think and got to work immediately to put Muller in place so quickly.
Until we are able to get rid of trump or somehow survive his presidency, I sincerely hope others such as McMaster, Tillerson and Kelly look in the mirror and decide who they want to be. Right now they are coming up far short of the moral mark.
Until we are able to get rid of trump or somehow survive his presidency, I sincerely hope others such as McMaster, Tillerson and Kelly look in the mirror and decide who they want to be. Right now they are coming up far short of the moral mark.
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He's not perfect -- no one is -- and his work for the NFL raised doubts about his independence. But he's certainly a step in the right direction, appeals to both sides of the aisle (when's the last time we could say that?) and he's comfortable diving into the swamp Trump has filled with his own even more dangerous denizens.
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A question that Mueller may need to deal with is something that falls more under the 25th amendment than possible impeachment.
Every day sees evidence that Donald Trump's mental state is such that there are legitimate reasons to call for a medical evaluation of his ability to carry out the duties of his office. Rambling speech patterns, memory lapses, incoherent or incomplete sentences, inappropriate behavior, erratic emotional responses, paranoia, confusion...
There is little evidence to suggest that anyone in his administration or in the GOP controlled Congress is sufficiently concerned about that so long as he retains the ability to sign what they put in front of him.
That's as big a constitutional concern as any possible collusion with a foreign power against the national interest.
Every day sees evidence that Donald Trump's mental state is such that there are legitimate reasons to call for a medical evaluation of his ability to carry out the duties of his office. Rambling speech patterns, memory lapses, incoherent or incomplete sentences, inappropriate behavior, erratic emotional responses, paranoia, confusion...
There is little evidence to suggest that anyone in his administration or in the GOP controlled Congress is sufficiently concerned about that so long as he retains the ability to sign what they put in front of him.
That's as big a constitutional concern as any possible collusion with a foreign power against the national interest.
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The GOP does not care what he looks like it all serves them and their masters desire to make government look bad and incompetent.
Most of his supporters think he is a successful business man, he isn't he is a successful con man. What's worse is most people today think it is true that government is incompetent and cannot do things better. Along with that and the pandering nature of television and online programming and how it leads everyone to a comfort level with dishonesty that should not exist we are literally only a few steps from being as bad off as any corrupt third world nation.
Look at Turkey a first world democratic nation, member of NATO, candidate for EU membership descending into dictatorship right in front of our eyes! Yes that can happen here, it is closer than you think.
Most of his supporters think he is a successful business man, he isn't he is a successful con man. What's worse is most people today think it is true that government is incompetent and cannot do things better. Along with that and the pandering nature of television and online programming and how it leads everyone to a comfort level with dishonesty that should not exist we are literally only a few steps from being as bad off as any corrupt third world nation.
Look at Turkey a first world democratic nation, member of NATO, candidate for EU membership descending into dictatorship right in front of our eyes! Yes that can happen here, it is closer than you think.
For the first time in a very long time I feel like this is the America I grew up in. Ever since the inauguration I have been biting my fingernails to the quick wondering when the adults would step in and put limits on the catastrophic shenanigans coming out of the White House. Republicans and Democrats are breathing a sigh of relief this morning. Especially Republicans because their unconditional support of this so called president was stretching the limits of credibility to the breaking point. We aren't out of the woods yet but at least we've found a trail of bread crumbs to follow.
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Mueller's appointment is exactly what the country needs right now before Trump causes any more damage. And I'm a Republican. Trump can run, but he can't hide his past from Mueller. Just like Watergate, the truth comes out eventually.
Mueller seems like an impeccable choice. While he may be up to the long, arduous task, I can only hope our democracy is.
I fear that Trump, his entrenched supporters and the far right media are now going to accuse Rosenstein of retaliating against Trump for using the DAG's memo as the intial pretext for firing Comey.
I also fear Trump and crew will malign Mueller as being in cahoots with Comey, whom they already have derided as only acting out of spite for being fired. They will argue that Mueller and Comey have long-standing professional and personal bonds and so Mueller can't be impartial and should be fired.
Congressional Republicans, while now indicating mealy-mouthed admiration for Mueller, have no real interest in pursuing a case against Team Trump. First, most of them can't afford to lose the Trump base in 2018. Second, it is becoming more and more implausible that Pence never seems to have knowledge of unsavory White House affairs so getting rid of Trump may also require getting rid of Pence. Then again, Ryan might be delighted to move across Penn. Ave.
As long as Mueller remains in place, Congressional Republicans will continue to shrug their duties to check Trump, saying the special prosecutor is handling the matter. They will claim to be focused on their agenda. They want to get through at least 2018 this way. Even if Mueller ultimately implicates Trump, it may be too late. If he absolves him, the right, a minority, will be more entrenched than ever.
I fear that Trump, his entrenched supporters and the far right media are now going to accuse Rosenstein of retaliating against Trump for using the DAG's memo as the intial pretext for firing Comey.
I also fear Trump and crew will malign Mueller as being in cahoots with Comey, whom they already have derided as only acting out of spite for being fired. They will argue that Mueller and Comey have long-standing professional and personal bonds and so Mueller can't be impartial and should be fired.
Congressional Republicans, while now indicating mealy-mouthed admiration for Mueller, have no real interest in pursuing a case against Team Trump. First, most of them can't afford to lose the Trump base in 2018. Second, it is becoming more and more implausible that Pence never seems to have knowledge of unsavory White House affairs so getting rid of Trump may also require getting rid of Pence. Then again, Ryan might be delighted to move across Penn. Ave.
As long as Mueller remains in place, Congressional Republicans will continue to shrug their duties to check Trump, saying the special prosecutor is handling the matter. They will claim to be focused on their agenda. They want to get through at least 2018 this way. Even if Mueller ultimately implicates Trump, it may be too late. If he absolves him, the right, a minority, will be more entrenched than ever.
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Trump has got to go. Fear nothing. Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead! Republican operatives should love that Robert Mueller has been chosen as special counsel. Now they can go home to their angry constituents and say; "The Trump/Russia connectoni is under investigation right now. I have no knowledge of the investigation, nothing to do with it and can say nothing about it." The smart ones knew they didn't have a leg to stand on or if they did, it was about to be sawed out from under them. Now they can get back to trying to push their horrendous agenda. As for your last point the G.O.P. were already shrugging off any and all duties to check Trump so what's the difference?
After Mr. Rosenstein was blindsided by Trump on the letter recommending the firing of Comey, I do not see how he could have done anything else. Mr. Rosenstein's credibility, rightly or wrongly, was gone with Trump comments.
This is just another example of actions taken by Trump that make no sense. He is his own worst enemy.
This is just another example of actions taken by Trump that make no sense. He is his own worst enemy.
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The appointment of Mr. Mueller actually increases the need for the creation of an independent commission. Mr. Mueller will look for provable crimes. A commission will expose lies and uncover the truth.
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Republicans must be breathing a sigh of relief now that they can defer questions to Mr. Mueller about one Trump investigation and focus that spare time on governing …. Or the next Trump faux pas. Wall Street is simply hoping the government will stay open this year with no foreign crisis to scare the markets. Trump is going overseas this week. What could possibly go wrong?
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I have not read through all the comments, so this might have been mentioned elsewhere, but I have heard that Trump does have the authority to fire Mueller. At this point, it would be beyond reckless (okay we've been in reckless mode before) to fire the special counsel, but does Trump have that power?
Yes Trump has the power and he will fire Meuller in about two weeks
Only in a round-about manner. Trump cannot fire Mueller. Rosenstein can fire Mueller, but ONLY with just cause and ONLY by informing Congress that he is doing so and why. One supposes that Trump could potentially order Rosenstein to fire Mueller, then, but again, it has to be done in the proper way and for proper cause.
Thank you, Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein. Just when I and millions of Americans were both depressed and in despair over the freefall that our democracy was in, you stepped forward where Congressional Republicans refused to go, and gave us all hope that the "national nightmare" we were in might end. This is a moment when our Constitutional democracy once again can work when there are men and women of true patriotic integrity. The choice of a former FBI Director in Robert Mueller III is perfect. Now let the truth get out and our cherished Republic survive.
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As the questions come and the possibility of criminal prosecution builds on the White House staff and campaign surrogates, the underlings are going to talk. The inconsistencies in the web of lies will be revealed. Sleep will be lost. Lawyers will be retained. Danger lurks though as Trump is still in charge until his house of cards comes tumbling down.
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Regardless of Mr. Mueller's final assessment, either the Trump supporters will say it is a conspiracy, in the case that Mr. Trump is found guilty of misdeeds and crimes or the Trump haters will say it is a conspiracy if his head is not delivered to them on a silver plate.
The partisanship in the US, to quote Mr. Comey, "Makes me mildly nauseous."
Nevertheless, I am greatly relieved that Mr. Mueller has been appointed and look forward to his findings which I for one will accept without imagining that the Illuminati or the Bildebergers or George Soros or the Koch Brothers have somehow fixed the result.
The partisanship in the US, to quote Mr. Comey, "Makes me mildly nauseous."
Nevertheless, I am greatly relieved that Mr. Mueller has been appointed and look forward to his findings which I for one will accept without imagining that the Illuminati or the Bildebergers or George Soros or the Koch Brothers have somehow fixed the result.
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Gpickard, where do you put me? I am not a repug, or a demipoot. I believe all political parties should be banned & all members who do not go directly to town/city hall to have their names removed (I give them 2 days) will be rounded up & put in special camps. There to stay until they each complete a full year course in American History, including a 3 month period in Civics/government. Then a closed book exam. Pass/fail. If you fail, you become a second class citizen for life. You can do all the jobs those deported do. Live on subsistence pay, with your whole family, in tenements built near job sites. Pass, you will be allowed to leave, see if your job is still there (doubtful), see if you can find one. You better find one fast, or you & your whole family will be arrested as vagrants, to be put into jobs, wherever the government finds em. Could be wife on the east coast, hubby on the west. Kids in an orphanage, parents will pay for the privilege of having their kids stay safe while they work 6 days a week. Factories won't automate, because labor will be cheaper here than overseas. Subsistence only, healthcare through employer only (it will be good, government single payer, the top 10% will pay for it for everyone. Health insurance companies will be shut down as unnecessary burdens).
Every national elected official will be voted in nationally. Including those running for congress. No states, no counties, no districts. All voted in at large. All caring for the country.
Every national elected official will be voted in nationally. Including those running for congress. No states, no counties, no districts. All voted in at large. All caring for the country.
While Trump can feel sorry for himself all he wants, the fact is that virtually every trouble he is now facing has been caused by his own actions and statements. If he had just let the alleged Russian - Trump Congressional & FBI investigations proceed unhampered by political interference, none of this would have occurred. His constant protests that there is nothing to investigate makes even the most sympathetic Trump supporter feel uneasy. Why does he protest so much if he is innocent of all wrongdoing? The professional response to such an investigation, however politically motivated, would be to maintain a hands off approach and say nothing about the progress of the investigation until it was concluded. Trump could not do that, and hence, we have this political crisis impeding his agenda. He must either be guilty of the allegations, or he is grossly incapable of conducting himself as President of the United States. The Special Counsel appointment is now necessary to insure that a complete & unbiased investigation of these allegations occurs.
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As a Democrat, I was infuriated by Comey's handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails. I couldn't understand how he exonerated her in the first investigation but under the harshest terms saying that she was extremely negligent.
That sounded like he was apologizing for exonerating her. I was suspicious that he had been pressured by the Republicans to dig deeper, though at an inopportune time in the election cycle. I don't question Mr. Mueller's reputation but I question Mr. Rosenstein's participation in creating this special counsel. It appears that the president or Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein can fire Mueller at any time they please. The precedent for correcting this can be found during the Bush administration when Comey, as assistant attorney general, was investigating the Valerie Plane matter. He waived controls that he or the president could have used and instead appointed as special counsel a private attorney with no strings attached.
So if Rosenstein is genuine, he should waive control over the special counsel as Comey did in the Valerie Plane matter and further appoint a qualified outsider who is politically unbiased with no party affiliation.
That sounded like he was apologizing for exonerating her. I was suspicious that he had been pressured by the Republicans to dig deeper, though at an inopportune time in the election cycle. I don't question Mr. Mueller's reputation but I question Mr. Rosenstein's participation in creating this special counsel. It appears that the president or Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein can fire Mueller at any time they please. The precedent for correcting this can be found during the Bush administration when Comey, as assistant attorney general, was investigating the Valerie Plane matter. He waived controls that he or the president could have used and instead appointed as special counsel a private attorney with no strings attached.
So if Rosenstein is genuine, he should waive control over the special counsel as Comey did in the Valerie Plane matter and further appoint a qualified outsider who is politically unbiased with no party affiliation.
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This started because of the Russians interference in our election. It got close to Trump because he has hired many people who also do work for and are cozy with the Russians. This may still turn out to have nothing to do with the election interference or possible collusion.
The issues that have us here today with a Special Prosecutor are essentially caused by Trump and his staff trying to end the investigation into Russian interference before it comes to its natural conclusion.
I make this distinction because of what the president did at the Coast Guard ceremony yesterday. Not only did he ruin their graduation with his vainglorious and ridiculously dishonest ranting he showed us that there might actually be a mental illness in operation here. The man seems incapable of openly and unambiguously admitting to being wrong or making a mistake. It seems he will defend a lie even if everyone knows it is a lie unto death regardless of the consequences or harm he may do.
I am saying this because whatever Mr Mueller finds, there is an issue of the president being mentally unfit for the office. This kind of Willie Loman dissociative view of the world is in and of itself reason enough to remove him for the protection of the Nation and the world.
The issues that have us here today with a Special Prosecutor are essentially caused by Trump and his staff trying to end the investigation into Russian interference before it comes to its natural conclusion.
I make this distinction because of what the president did at the Coast Guard ceremony yesterday. Not only did he ruin their graduation with his vainglorious and ridiculously dishonest ranting he showed us that there might actually be a mental illness in operation here. The man seems incapable of openly and unambiguously admitting to being wrong or making a mistake. It seems he will defend a lie even if everyone knows it is a lie unto death regardless of the consequences or harm he may do.
I am saying this because whatever Mr Mueller finds, there is an issue of the president being mentally unfit for the office. This kind of Willie Loman dissociative view of the world is in and of itself reason enough to remove him for the protection of the Nation and the world.
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Dear Magisnotreal,
You are correct. It is conceivable that there will be nothing of great moment discovered by Mr. Mueller, though I am glad he is on the job.
As you note however, the issue is that Mr. Trump's defensive reaction to the slightest provocation (at least from where I sit) looks irrational. That he did this at the CG graduation ceremony really demonstrates his lack of place and time.
You are correct. It is conceivable that there will be nothing of great moment discovered by Mr. Mueller, though I am glad he is on the job.
As you note however, the issue is that Mr. Trump's defensive reaction to the slightest provocation (at least from where I sit) looks irrational. That he did this at the CG graduation ceremony really demonstrates his lack of place and time.
Special Counsel, not Special Prosecutor. Go read the article on the difference.
Mueller should get ready for the firestorm that the Press and Dems will have when he reports back there was and is no evidence of collusion.
As the Assistant attorney Journal said in his appointment, he is only doing this for political reasons NOT because he has any evidence.
If there was evidence, the 9 months that the FBI has been working on this would have already been leaked.
As the Assistant attorney Journal said in his appointment, he is only doing this for political reasons NOT because he has any evidence.
If there was evidence, the 9 months that the FBI has been working on this would have already been leaked.
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That's wishful thinking. Perhaps treason doesn't get leaked that easily. Flynn is already trying to bargain for immunity. Let's see what happens when a few more players decide to make a deal.
The naming of Robert Mueller as special council into the Russian tampering of our election is superb. He is a brilliant man, former FBI Director and of the highest integrity. He will be fair but get to the heart of what actually occurred if anything during our election process. Once this has been accomplished, President Trump and both houses of Congress can get back to serving the people. There is a lot of work to be done and time is of the essence.
Pardon my "disloyalty", but I would urge your readers to look at a stunning Reuters article, published today, stating that there were at least 18 contacts between the Trump camp and the Russians, during the last seven months of the 2016 campaign. This multitude of contacts also occurred after Americans had been informed of Russia's broad attempts to subvert the election. The article also disclosed that Michael Flynn and Russian Ambassador Kislyak had particularly discussed creating a secret "back channel" for communications between the U.S and Russia that would bypass our existing national security agencies.
Thank you, Times, for allowing me this somewhat unorthodox opportunity.
Thank you, Times, for allowing me this somewhat unorthodox opportunity.
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So what are the progs and anti-Trumpers going to do when Mueller's investigation shows that there was no collusion. Which is of course the most likely outcome as: 1) we've had no leaks pointing to collusion, 2) the DNC was hacked before Trump became the front runner, 3) there is no logic behind Russia needing Trump's campaign to carry out its work.
And what if instead of finding evidence that there was collusion, we find that Russia didn't hack DNC, that the hasty and politically motivated investigation simply jumped to a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence and a desire by Dem loyalists to find an excuse for HRC's loss. What if we find that the Obama admin was indeed extensively spying on Trump's team. What if all the leaks of information came from Obama loyalists.
There's a lot to chase down here, and those cheering for the appointment of Mueller had better be careful about what they wish for.
And what if instead of finding evidence that there was collusion, we find that Russia didn't hack DNC, that the hasty and politically motivated investigation simply jumped to a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence and a desire by Dem loyalists to find an excuse for HRC's loss. What if we find that the Obama admin was indeed extensively spying on Trump's team. What if all the leaks of information came from Obama loyalists.
There's a lot to chase down here, and those cheering for the appointment of Mueller had better be careful about what they wish for.
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Thank goodness. I only hope that he will have the resources needed to conduct an appropriate investigation. I have not read anywhere how resources are appropriated to a special counsel.
MUELLER Will do a fine job. He has served his country with distinction already. Congressional investigations are also underway. The Democrats got the jump on the GOPpers for once, making public announcements of their investigations and and inviting the GOPpers to join them for the good of the US. To place the needs of the nation above political concerns.
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I say, if Mr. Trump is found guilty of collusion, that his family and colleagues stage an intervention, to allow him the chance to resign. That would be the most benevolent way to "remove" him from office. It would also give him the opportunity to show respect for America and the presidency, and afford him some dignity at the same time.
Perhaps it's not premature to begin thinking the unthinkable. How placidly will the third of America that still supports President Trump react if he is removed from office against his own will? These are people who consider themselves patriots, but are pre-disposed to oppose much of the US Government. Many of them are well armed. I hope that if the president doesn't finish his term of office, he leaves it by resigning. I hope that major media begin now to prepare our minds for a post-Trump era.
Interesting that Jared Kushner was urging Trump to counter-attack over the special prosecutor. Wasn't he supposed to be the "moderating influence"?
Another editorial from the Editorial Board today stated "When will Republicans in Congress decide that enough is enough? ... Do they need first to ram through their deeply unpopular agenda? Or it is possible they might at last consult their consciences, and recall that they took an oath to uphold the Constitution?"
It is much more likely now that McConnell and Ryan will consult their calendars before consulting their consciences. They are now likely to command their (to date lackluster) intelligence committees to charge full speed ahead to get Trump out of office and replace him with Pence.
They now need to step in front of and reduce the newsworthiness of the investigation by Special Counsel Mueller. If his investigation continues to receive news coverage for months, Republicans are toast in the 2018 elections. Even worse, if his investigation has not been overshadowed by the time he releases his report - and it concludes that Trump, Trump's campaign surrogates and even Republican Party leaders* were complicit in Russia's subversion of our election - the election might be judged invalid and have to be repeated.
*Remember that Ryan and McConnell met with Trump right after the Access Hollywood release? Just before Trump had been very critical of them and their legislative agenda, and they had been critical of him. Just after the meetings - silence from them and Trump's full support of their legislative agenda since being elected. Coincidence?
It is much more likely now that McConnell and Ryan will consult their calendars before consulting their consciences. They are now likely to command their (to date lackluster) intelligence committees to charge full speed ahead to get Trump out of office and replace him with Pence.
They now need to step in front of and reduce the newsworthiness of the investigation by Special Counsel Mueller. If his investigation continues to receive news coverage for months, Republicans are toast in the 2018 elections. Even worse, if his investigation has not been overshadowed by the time he releases his report - and it concludes that Trump, Trump's campaign surrogates and even Republican Party leaders* were complicit in Russia's subversion of our election - the election might be judged invalid and have to be repeated.
*Remember that Ryan and McConnell met with Trump right after the Access Hollywood release? Just before Trump had been very critical of them and their legislative agenda, and they had been critical of him. Just after the meetings - silence from them and Trump's full support of their legislative agenda since being elected. Coincidence?
Imagine the former President plotting to leak his adversary’s communications. Russian place holders exposed some truth during the campaing. Perhaps respect for the sovereignty of foreign nations should be the norm and interference with foreign elections should be a crime. Unfortunately, this behavior cannot be a crime to the extent it represents free expression protected by the constitution.
Next imagine that the Russian press relies on sources of information that is leaked, and even stolen, much like the Washington Post and the New York Times in much of its political reporting. The term “fake news” pops up to describe the spin given by left and right new organizations to the same claimed facts. Both the new President and the Secretary of State seem willing to give Russia every benefit of the doubt in order to achieve greater business good in emerging markets. A few innocent lives might also be saved.
This Hollywood plot then becomes the setting for the development of the Special Prosecutor’s conscience as he investigates the intricate actions of high level partisan players. With no criminal intent in sight, the Prosecutor finds himself as a pivotal player on the world’s political stage. ISIS, Al-Qaeda and North Korea have morphed beyond traditional geographic borders to reek havoc in the information age. After years of investigation, the prosecution of low level crimes, risks delicate international alliances that have barely kept the crazies from going nuclear.
Next imagine that the Russian press relies on sources of information that is leaked, and even stolen, much like the Washington Post and the New York Times in much of its political reporting. The term “fake news” pops up to describe the spin given by left and right new organizations to the same claimed facts. Both the new President and the Secretary of State seem willing to give Russia every benefit of the doubt in order to achieve greater business good in emerging markets. A few innocent lives might also be saved.
This Hollywood plot then becomes the setting for the development of the Special Prosecutor’s conscience as he investigates the intricate actions of high level partisan players. With no criminal intent in sight, the Prosecutor finds himself as a pivotal player on the world’s political stage. ISIS, Al-Qaeda and North Korea have morphed beyond traditional geographic borders to reek havoc in the information age. After years of investigation, the prosecution of low level crimes, risks delicate international alliances that have barely kept the crazies from going nuclear.
This is good news but not the sole answer to the corruption and lack of ethics of Trump and many in his campaign team and staff. This special counsel has the integrity of Archibald Cox in Watergate, but we need reputable journalists to continue investigating and reporting to keep the pressure on and to inform the public of what is happening and has happened, all the current day Woodwards and Bernsteins. The facts must emerge and build a case that is so unquestionable that the GOP will no longer be able to shield Trump to maintain power. It must be so solid that even voters who supported him will be convinced that Trump obstructed justice in an attempt to cover up collusion with the Russians, undermining American democracy and playing into Putin's hands. Only then will this national nightmare be over.
Is this the 'reconstruction of the administrative state'? For the sake of our democracy, let's hope so.
Investigations breed more investigations. The media should stop talking about the criminality of Trump's acts and start talking about the full set of criteria that can justify removal from office. Whether the acts are criminal is a delay tactic from the Republicans and is a distraction. When the House switches to Democratic majority in 2018 we will be off to the races....And to saving our democracy.
I particularly like the use of the passive and unattributed ("Robert Mueller III, who was named special counsel …"), usually verboten in journalistic circles, instead of the equally accurate "President Trump's assistant attorney general appointed Robert Mueller III as special counsel …"
Also amusing is the morphing of the title "special counsel" into "special prosecutor" in the last paragraph.
Also amusing is the morphing of the title "special counsel" into "special prosecutor" in the last paragraph.
To. Dr.C,
I wonder how many people caught that distinction. I didn't and had to reread the article. Thanks for pointing that out.
I wonder how many people caught that distinction. I didn't and had to reread the article. Thanks for pointing that out.
The tide of blind support for Trump among Republicans, with the notable exception of Ryan and McConnell, seems to have turned. Trump will certainly continue to lash out, as he did this morning complaining about a "witch hunt." it is notable that he did not pledge complete cooperation with Mr. Mueller's investigation in his statement last night. He cannot help himself and has no understanding of checks and balances in our system. Let us hope that Trump does not order the dismissal of Mr. Mueller. If he does all Republicans will run from him. Perhaps when Mr. Mueller subpoena's tax returns Trump will resign. if he has nothing to hide he should have released them long ago.
It is perhaps not yet astonishing, but certainly odd that there have been no resignations from his staff yet. Republicans need to complete tax reform well before mid-term elections and they are running out of time.
While detente with Russia is desirable, Trump's Oval Office stunt last week is offensive to me and I suspect many. The political realities of his situation will likely outweigh any purely legal misdeeds.
It is perhaps not yet astonishing, but certainly odd that there have been no resignations from his staff yet. Republicans need to complete tax reform well before mid-term elections and they are running out of time.
While detente with Russia is desirable, Trump's Oval Office stunt last week is offensive to me and I suspect many. The political realities of his situation will likely outweigh any purely legal misdeeds.
Like most posts here, I believe this is a good thing and hopefully leads to a clear resolution.
I believe the Russians wanted to hurt/weaken Clinton vs. thinking they actually had a potential winning candidate with Trump and am not willing to consider Trump a criminal just because I dislike his Presidency. I am unconvinced that laws were broken at this point but there is enough here to warrant a a thorough, independent investigation.
Hopefully this concludes quickly one way or the other and we can focus on issues that move this country forward.
I believe the Russians wanted to hurt/weaken Clinton vs. thinking they actually had a potential winning candidate with Trump and am not willing to consider Trump a criminal just because I dislike his Presidency. I am unconvinced that laws were broken at this point but there is enough here to warrant a a thorough, independent investigation.
Hopefully this concludes quickly one way or the other and we can focus on issues that move this country forward.
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"a special counsel 'is necessary in order for the American people to have full confidence in the outcome' of the investigation."
the outcome is irrelevant, the mistrust goes deeper.
no one believes that trump, the clintons or barack obama did anything with, or for, the russians that was grounded in subversion
...whatever motives, personal gain (clintons), disdain for heavy lifting (obama), or whatever it turns out to be (trump) once the "deal" is done, their motives do not include the overthrow of the usa or the resuscitation of the ussr.
so, get over it...the russians are not about to stop e-nnoyance that has gone on since before we had e-anything and vice versa.
what we can do is stop the erosion therefrom, the chicken little fears that have us blaming and raging, fighting among ourselves for our special interests, like pieces of floating wreckage...if we don't stop, they will be.
for all the legitimate grievances (the voices of the "pluribus," if you will) there has to be a "unum" an identity that we all contribute to, evolving to include all of us, its sum being greater than its parts...it is that identity that those who wish us ill are trying to destroy and, these days, they seem to be doing a better job than we are at protecting it.
there are many, (hand raised here), who say that kruschev's observation of our developing addiction to convenience, our distractions from the "eternal vigilance," required to maintain freedom, prompted him to say "we will bury you."
the outcome is irrelevant, the mistrust goes deeper.
no one believes that trump, the clintons or barack obama did anything with, or for, the russians that was grounded in subversion
...whatever motives, personal gain (clintons), disdain for heavy lifting (obama), or whatever it turns out to be (trump) once the "deal" is done, their motives do not include the overthrow of the usa or the resuscitation of the ussr.
so, get over it...the russians are not about to stop e-nnoyance that has gone on since before we had e-anything and vice versa.
what we can do is stop the erosion therefrom, the chicken little fears that have us blaming and raging, fighting among ourselves for our special interests, like pieces of floating wreckage...if we don't stop, they will be.
for all the legitimate grievances (the voices of the "pluribus," if you will) there has to be a "unum" an identity that we all contribute to, evolving to include all of us, its sum being greater than its parts...it is that identity that those who wish us ill are trying to destroy and, these days, they seem to be doing a better job than we are at protecting it.
there are many, (hand raised here), who say that kruschev's observation of our developing addiction to convenience, our distractions from the "eternal vigilance," required to maintain freedom, prompted him to say "we will bury you."
Yeah, I get everybody hates Donald Trump and wishes to drag him down however they can, while telling all those ignorant racist yahoos who voted for him not to disregard the wishes of their betters again, but the history of special prosecutors suggests the only real result is not justice but governmental paralysis. Which, again, is the entire purpose of doing so, and why the self-inflicted damage of appointing one is so mistaken.
For the most part, special prosecutors create problems for those far outside their original charge. For instance, the SP knew that Scooter Libby did not leak Valerie Plame's name (he knew Richard Armitage did), yet jailed him because his recollection of the timeline of a past conversation differed from another's memory. Bill Clinton was trapped into the entire lying about Monica Lewinsky in order to avoid political embarrassment fiasco by questioning over something else. And that is precisely what will happen here.
The FBI is conducting a counterintelligence investigation here. Congress should have appointed a special committee into rounding that out and ultimately reporting upon it to the American people. But the appointment of a special prosecutor only accomplishes paralyzing the administration and trapping a member or two of it into a criminal offense or forcing political embarrassment.
But then again, that is why the progressive establishment, including this paper, has been pushing for it from the beginning anyway.
For the most part, special prosecutors create problems for those far outside their original charge. For instance, the SP knew that Scooter Libby did not leak Valerie Plame's name (he knew Richard Armitage did), yet jailed him because his recollection of the timeline of a past conversation differed from another's memory. Bill Clinton was trapped into the entire lying about Monica Lewinsky in order to avoid political embarrassment fiasco by questioning over something else. And that is precisely what will happen here.
The FBI is conducting a counterintelligence investigation here. Congress should have appointed a special committee into rounding that out and ultimately reporting upon it to the American people. But the appointment of a special prosecutor only accomplishes paralyzing the administration and trapping a member or two of it into a criminal offense or forcing political embarrassment.
But then again, that is why the progressive establishment, including this paper, has been pushing for it from the beginning anyway.
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You promote the propaganda that the investigation is because of hatred for Trump. It is not.
All of this hubbub is directly related to facts relating to Trump and his employees.
Turns out that they were already lying when they asked Ms Yates why it mattered if Flynn lied. That very same man, the WH Counsel and Trump et al, pretending to be confused about the concern she brought up to them had known for weeks that Flynn was under investigation!
The facts are only going to get worse for them. Most of the problems they are having are related to them trying to stop the investigations.
All of this hubbub is directly related to facts relating to Trump and his employees.
Turns out that they were already lying when they asked Ms Yates why it mattered if Flynn lied. That very same man, the WH Counsel and Trump et al, pretending to be confused about the concern she brought up to them had known for weeks that Flynn was under investigation!
The facts are only going to get worse for them. Most of the problems they are having are related to them trying to stop the investigations.
According to a recording dated June 15, 2016 that is now in the Washington Post's possession House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy was going to elaborate in a private conversation with other Republicans that Dana Rohrabacher and Donald Trump were on Putin's payroll. But Paul Ryan interrupted him and urged everyone in the room to keep the conversation secret.
The GOP is to blame for the mess, apart from Trump. Robert Mueller will do his job alright. But it's up to Congressional Republicans to grow a spine and put the country's interest ahead of their party's.
The GOP is to blame for the mess, apart from Trump. Robert Mueller will do his job alright. But it's up to Congressional Republicans to grow a spine and put the country's interest ahead of their party's.
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You can say the same thing for the democrats and for the media, neither of whom has America's "back."
"Mr. Trump could still interfere by ordering Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mr. Mueller. "
I doubt that would ever happen. The public would be outraged and would be seen as another attempt by Trump to obstruct justice.
I doubt that would ever happen. The public would be outraged and would be seen as another attempt by Trump to obstruct justice.
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I don't doubt it for a second.
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I don't "doubt that would happen," so much as I suspect Mr. R. has set himself on a path from which he would resign rather than "be fooled again."
Donald Trump has never gotten used to being defied. He is going to get a bellyful of it before this is all over.
Donald Trump has never gotten used to being defied. He is going to get a bellyful of it before this is all over.
Umm, has *45 ever cared about the fallout from anything he says, writes, does, or tweets? So the public is outraged. He doesn't give a flying leap about any of us. Except he, with the help of congress wants to pick our pockets. Once that's done, he will close down anything resembling a normal legal presidency, no briefings, no press conferences, no interviews (except to ego stroke himself). Moving on he will declare a national emergency & martial law, suspend the constitution, & just sit on the porch at 1600 Penn Ave, smiling his tiny smile, as he renames the building he is in. No longer the White House, with a long history, but, TRUMP MANSION, with a neon sign above that trumpets that fact 24/7. Tours will become obligatory, the cost $400 per person, every one will be billed for this every year, non payers will be brought to Washington to be flogged as he watches. A banana republic, others have said. So right, a banana republic on steroids, with nukes. Be scared, be very very scared. Then get angry, very very angry.
Time for the Citizens' Army to march & get rid of these stinking (no word they will print is bad enough), then make sure every person who wants to vote can, IF THEY CAN PASS THE TEST. Yup, a 2 day course, 1 exam, ace it, vote, make one tiny little error, never vote. 1 chance, no do overs, closed book. After first year it will only be given to HS seniors. No drop outs, no GEDers. Miss it, decide it's not important, you will never be a full citizen. No matter what
Time for the Citizens' Army to march & get rid of these stinking (no word they will print is bad enough), then make sure every person who wants to vote can, IF THEY CAN PASS THE TEST. Yup, a 2 day course, 1 exam, ace it, vote, make one tiny little error, never vote. 1 chance, no do overs, closed book. After first year it will only be given to HS seniors. No drop outs, no GEDers. Miss it, decide it's not important, you will never be a full citizen. No matter what
Woke up this morning thinking re Rosenstein/Muller; good, checks and balances now engaged. Even more, that in the end, what animates this meaningfully, is that persons of integrity and loyalty to our constitution and process are what is necessary to make this happen. Long live the rule of law.
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I am comforted by the choice of the special prosecutor. Now, congress should pass laws for election reform. Our elections should be funded by our government. Period. No special interest. No intrusions of foreign or drug cartel interests. No time spent fundraising by our elected officials. Election to the presidency or congress should be a public service. We the people.
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Phyllis, Great idea! I would like to add another couple of items: All candidates for election to any public office have to disclose their tax returns from the past ten years. Also, lets do away with the electoral college system of electing the president, have all elections determined by the popular vote. Have congressional districts drawn by an independent select committee, streamline voter registration, and voting laws, and finally have elections fall on a Saturday or Sunday for a full 24 hours. No more voting on work days within a limited time frame. Thanks for your ideas!
What do you think about new legislation that would make all political campaign contributions illegal, as long as there are absolutely no exceptions.
I propose multiple tax operated TV stations with a free TV channel owned and paid for by the US government for each elective office where each candidate can queue up (or schedule) and then get equal (maybe 15 minutes or more) free TV air time, and then get back into line at the end of the line to do it over again, and again? Maybe a separate time (or channel) scheduled for each candidate each elective office. Maybe a separate radio/TV channel for all the presidential office contenders, another for all the US congressional candidates in each state, another for all the US senatorial candidates in each state, another for the state candidates in each region, another for the county candidates in each county, another for the municipal candidates in each city, another for the school board candidates, and etc.
With enough money, anyone or any citizen, foreigner, corporation, or business could influence (bribe) the US President, enough members of the US congress and the US Senate to create any legislation to do anything that entity wants, such as the “Free Trade Agreements,” CFI Federal “Pay to Play” government contracts, Intercontinental Military Rocket Guidance Secrets licensed for sale to Communist China (google Chinagate), or the Solyndra “Pay to Play” government guaranteed loans!
I propose multiple tax operated TV stations with a free TV channel owned and paid for by the US government for each elective office where each candidate can queue up (or schedule) and then get equal (maybe 15 minutes or more) free TV air time, and then get back into line at the end of the line to do it over again, and again? Maybe a separate time (or channel) scheduled for each candidate each elective office. Maybe a separate radio/TV channel for all the presidential office contenders, another for all the US congressional candidates in each state, another for all the US senatorial candidates in each state, another for the state candidates in each region, another for the county candidates in each county, another for the municipal candidates in each city, another for the school board candidates, and etc.
With enough money, anyone or any citizen, foreigner, corporation, or business could influence (bribe) the US President, enough members of the US congress and the US Senate to create any legislation to do anything that entity wants, such as the “Free Trade Agreements,” CFI Federal “Pay to Play” government contracts, Intercontinental Military Rocket Guidance Secrets licensed for sale to Communist China (google Chinagate), or the Solyndra “Pay to Play” government guaranteed loans!
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Excellent comment....
I applaud the selection of Mr. Mueller, but would suggest that one of his first actions should be to encourage individual FBI and Justice Department employees to disclose to him in confidence, and without fear of retaliation, any pertinent facts they may have about the issues under investigation. I suspect there are many who would be willing to provide information outside of the normal chain of command.
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I was rather surprised to come from dinner with friends, turn on MSNBC and discover that we now have a special counsel. I am ready to see what he investigates and what he finds. I never thought that it would happen.
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The Russians, like everyone else, must have assumed Trump would lose. If they interfered in our election, it would have been to punish the woman they expected to become President, because of her anti-Russian policies. If that was their motive, collusion with Trump's campaign would have been an unnecessary risk. So I expect the investigation will conclude there was no collusion. But we'll see. It's obviously possible that I am 100% wrong.
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How does collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign incur more risk for the Russians than interfering in the election by themselves?
If their goal was to destabilize the United States government then being able to blackmail the president or his national security advisor for example would be far more effective then leaking a few emails.
If their goal was to destabilize the United States government then being able to blackmail the president or his national security advisor for example would be far more effective then leaking a few emails.
@ Cynical Jack
It is much more likely that you are 100% correct...
It is much more likely that you are 100% correct...
How about a special tax fraud counsel investigating tax havens and homegrown LLCs?
The GOP, from a shared ACE (Australian, Canadian, European and worldwide Awareness & Consciousness Evolving) perspective, is a radical extremist organization that has its boots firmly planted in the face of a kleptocracy-oppressed earth. The scope of the suffering it causes, the death toll it has taken and its crimes against humanity look unrivaled by any other extremists.
To witness McConnell or Trump speak? It's really not that much of a different experience for a sentient and thinking human being than watching a Bin Laden vid.
Repeal and replace, deregulation, tax reform, vouchers and the second amendment are their code words for ever so many terrorist attacks at sane and humane government that by far outdo the harm other known terrorism did or does.
It's a Sploding Spleen Massacre that unlike the Bowling Green Massacre unravels in a real events bombardment in our world, though largely operating from the wings, in stealth and veiled, directed by niqab capitalists from behind Delaware veilwear and Bermudas and Bahamas burqas, and in backroom-engineered policies advertising non-existent dynamic scoring or other ghost gains.
Trump's tax returns won't even bring real change, as long as we leave all this hiding legal and intact, as anonymous shell company operations of himself and his oligarchic mafia swamp buddies won't be revealed by those returns.
I'm all for the fight against terrorism.
The GOP, from a shared ACE (Australian, Canadian, European and worldwide Awareness & Consciousness Evolving) perspective, is a radical extremist organization that has its boots firmly planted in the face of a kleptocracy-oppressed earth. The scope of the suffering it causes, the death toll it has taken and its crimes against humanity look unrivaled by any other extremists.
To witness McConnell or Trump speak? It's really not that much of a different experience for a sentient and thinking human being than watching a Bin Laden vid.
Repeal and replace, deregulation, tax reform, vouchers and the second amendment are their code words for ever so many terrorist attacks at sane and humane government that by far outdo the harm other known terrorism did or does.
It's a Sploding Spleen Massacre that unlike the Bowling Green Massacre unravels in a real events bombardment in our world, though largely operating from the wings, in stealth and veiled, directed by niqab capitalists from behind Delaware veilwear and Bermudas and Bahamas burqas, and in backroom-engineered policies advertising non-existent dynamic scoring or other ghost gains.
Trump's tax returns won't even bring real change, as long as we leave all this hiding legal and intact, as anonymous shell company operations of himself and his oligarchic mafia swamp buddies won't be revealed by those returns.
I'm all for the fight against terrorism.
It's about time! Rod Rosenstein's action here and the quality of his appointed special counsel finally give me a tiny bit of hoopoe. Perhaps there are men (well, they mostly are) in our government who will refuse to roll over and play dead when Trump barks. If one man bravely does the right thing, perhaps he will be joined by one more, they by many more. Save us from this man!
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There was one courageous woman, Sally Yates. Ms. Yates stood up to Trump by refusing to do his illegal bidding. She was summarily fired. (Watch her complete interview by Anderson Cooper on YouTube.)
The saving factor about Mueller's appointment is that he cannot be fired by Trump. He had just better act quickly. I cannot help but think some lives are in jeopardy. I hope I am wrong but this corrupt Administration is not beyond any criminal conduct.
The saving factor about Mueller's appointment is that he cannot be fired by Trump. He had just better act quickly. I cannot help but think some lives are in jeopardy. I hope I am wrong but this corrupt Administration is not beyond any criminal conduct.
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Jonathan.
The American Revolutionaries who signed the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776 and then created this great nation were political activists committing criminal acts of high treason.
Those men committed their fortunes and their lives to the creation of the USA.
They would have all been hanged by the English Government for Treason if the American Revolution military forces had failed.
Today, politicians are only in the game for their own personal financial gain with perks, bribes and cash in paper sacks for their congressional votes and no-bid PAY TO PLAY contracts paid from the taxpayer’s Public Treasury awarded to their political campaign contributors!
Today, only those politicians that accept sufficient campaign contributions or contributions to that politician’s foundation in return for political favors and “PAY TO PLAY” no-bid contract awards from the public treasury can collect enough campaign money in order to buy enough TV advertising can get themselves elected to public office.
The American Revolutionaries who signed the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776 and then created this great nation were political activists committing criminal acts of high treason.
Those men committed their fortunes and their lives to the creation of the USA.
They would have all been hanged by the English Government for Treason if the American Revolution military forces had failed.
Today, politicians are only in the game for their own personal financial gain with perks, bribes and cash in paper sacks for their congressional votes and no-bid PAY TO PLAY contracts paid from the taxpayer’s Public Treasury awarded to their political campaign contributors!
Today, only those politicians that accept sufficient campaign contributions or contributions to that politician’s foundation in return for political favors and “PAY TO PLAY” no-bid contract awards from the public treasury can collect enough campaign money in order to buy enough TV advertising can get themselves elected to public office.
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A turning point for sure but a time that demands unity from all Americans regardless of party
This is the inflection point that determines have the Russians won or can we show the world what truly makes us unique and give hope to all who aspire that we can survive and learn we are truly Americans who love and preserve freedom of speech and are for the people and by the people
This is the inflection point that determines have the Russians won or can we show the world what truly makes us unique and give hope to all who aspire that we can survive and learn we are truly Americans who love and preserve freedom of speech and are for the people and by the people
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The appointment of the special counsel was commanded by the DOJ regulations. Turns out, at least some people recognize we are a nation of laws. As troubling as trump's soon-to-be-revealed treason is the role of republicans and the so-called alt-right "news" media in participating in and covering-up the plot against America.
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People do not want to believe their president is a crook. That was true as the evidence mounted of the Watergate coverup and it's true now.
If there is no "smoking gun," what will happen? What if there's just a gun with some bullets missing?
If there is no "smoking gun," what will happen? What if there's just a gun with some bullets missing?
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Will Democrats accept a negative finding on collusion by Mueller? Probably, on the whole, yes they will. But did all Republicans accept the FBI's Clinton email determination? Why must the Democrats accept something when they could just as easily ridicule the result, blame the investigator for malfeasance/incompetence, and use that feigned anger for political gain? That is the essence of Trumpian/Tea Party politics.
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She's not in prison, is she?
The next hurdle will be a daunting one: getting the Republican majority in the House to take action after Mueller passes his findings on to them.
May those Republicans show the same courage that Rosenstein just did, and make their country-- not their party -- the priority.
May those Republicans show the same courage that Rosenstein just did, and make their country-- not their party -- the priority.
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WHAT if his findings show that Trump is innocent? Will you and the media back off?
I think what we are about to learn of domestic collusion within the GOP will be just as bone chilling as the Russian collusion with Trump.
Maybe the reports about Orrin Hatch becoming the next POTUS are true? I have to say, the transcript of Paul Ryan and GOP members in June 2016 is scary, and made even scarier by the revelation that Ryan handlers lied and denied until told by the WP that a recording exists.
This is beyond crazy.
Maybe the reports about Orrin Hatch becoming the next POTUS are true? I have to say, the transcript of Paul Ryan and GOP members in June 2016 is scary, and made even scarier by the revelation that Ryan handlers lied and denied until told by the WP that a recording exists.
This is beyond crazy.
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How long will it be before TRUMP appeals to his loyal base that Mueller is too close to Comey? He will always have the confidence of a group of people who see conspiracy around every corner. The other day I heard an interview on CBS News of one of TRUMP's devotees saying she didn't care if the TRUMP campaign colluded with the Russians to win the election. She would still support TRUMP. I am afraid that she is not alone. It appears that 38% of Americans (TRUMP"S approval rating) agree with her. Is there anything that can be done to reverse the effects of this brainwashing?
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Frontal lobotomy surgery?
Now that we have an honest broker who is truly respected on both sides of the aisle, the REAL non-partisan investigation begins. No midnight rides of Devin Nunes, no more silence from the impotent GOP congressional majority that would have impeached a Democrat at the drop of a hat.
Mueller will serve his Country again, in his biggest most important role, and there was never a time when an HONEST man was needed more. Comey stood up to Bush 43 and Mueller backed him with his NOTES and MEMOS to save his job. Comey and Mueller are HONEST men, a rarity in our sadly hyper-partisan times.
Those who still (somehow) support Trump and his cries of "FAKE NEWS!" and "RUSSIA HOAX!" and those who have already convicted the entire Trump administration can rest assured that there will be a thorough examination of the facts of the case and that the process will be an HONEST one.
This process, whether it ends in exoneration or impeachment now has legitimacy that has been lacking in the politically charged Congressional environment where each side has it's own opposing agendas.
This is a solemn and serious crisis that has all but paralyzed our politics.
Robert Mueller has never had a bigger task, or been needed more by his fellow Americans. Let us all wish him the best in his efforts.
Mueller will serve his Country again, in his biggest most important role, and there was never a time when an HONEST man was needed more. Comey stood up to Bush 43 and Mueller backed him with his NOTES and MEMOS to save his job. Comey and Mueller are HONEST men, a rarity in our sadly hyper-partisan times.
Those who still (somehow) support Trump and his cries of "FAKE NEWS!" and "RUSSIA HOAX!" and those who have already convicted the entire Trump administration can rest assured that there will be a thorough examination of the facts of the case and that the process will be an HONEST one.
This process, whether it ends in exoneration or impeachment now has legitimacy that has been lacking in the politically charged Congressional environment where each side has it's own opposing agendas.
This is a solemn and serious crisis that has all but paralyzed our politics.
Robert Mueller has never had a bigger task, or been needed more by his fellow Americans. Let us all wish him the best in his efforts.
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This makes me so happy!
Russia also hacked the RNC but only released emails from the DNC. I have long thought that the reason why Priebus strictly enforced the "support the nominee" pledge was because the Russia had something bad on the RNC. I have long been in the "it's worse than we think" camp, and I am not a conspiracy chaser.
So Robert Mueller brings a sigh of relief. I have more faith that what is exposed is all there is.
Russia also hacked the RNC but only released emails from the DNC. I have long thought that the reason why Priebus strictly enforced the "support the nominee" pledge was because the Russia had something bad on the RNC. I have long been in the "it's worse than we think" camp, and I am not a conspiracy chaser.
So Robert Mueller brings a sigh of relief. I have more faith that what is exposed is all there is.
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Most of our legislation is usually written by the lobbyists’ clients, and then the lobbyists were hired by the “DONOR CLASS” and PACs to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on wine, food, prepaid sexual services, women, song, jobs for the congressmen’s unemployable wives, girlfriends, and children, plus campaign contributions, and exotic vacations (in Spain) to entice (bribe) each of our elected “MAINSTREAM REPUBLICAN” and “MAINSTREAM DEMOCRATIC” congressmen and each of their aides who "advise" the congressmen how to vote on each issue to enact whatever legislation (tax loopholes, repeal of criminal laws, legalize Wall Street criminal acts, NO-BID government contracts, presidential felony criminal conviction pardons, environmental damage liability limits, etc.) that the lobbyists’ clients desire.
US citizens need to stop voting over and over to reelect those same elected (corrupt criminal) officials that promise that US taxpayer money will be paid to their various elite “Foundation” donors, elite “DONOR CLASS” campaign contributors, and PACs (foreign and domestic) from the US Treasury in return for their campaign contributions and other personal benefits paid to our elected US politicians.
Politicians should be smart enough to not document their "PAY TO PLAY" transactions via e-mail.
US citizens need to stop voting over and over to reelect those same elected (corrupt criminal) officials that promise that US taxpayer money will be paid to their various elite “Foundation” donors, elite “DONOR CLASS” campaign contributors, and PACs (foreign and domestic) from the US Treasury in return for their campaign contributions and other personal benefits paid to our elected US politicians.
Politicians should be smart enough to not document their "PAY TO PLAY" transactions via e-mail.
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Your whole comment PROVES you are a conspiracy chaser! Enough said.
"The special counsel America needs..." This editorial is so politically correct and timely. We need this investigation more than we need health care reform, tax reform, a reduction of hostilities worldwide, improvements in education, etc. We know that the Russians are in bed with President Trump. The Democrats told us so.
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Mueller is tough and a straight shooter. He has integrity and vast experience. He may save the day or he could be fired. I will cross my fingers and wait for the next presidential drama.
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What a joke, and the GOP caving once again shows that we have in reality one political party in America: The Uni-Party. The entrenched beltway barnacles, our ruling elites.
There have been a million leaks in the past year. Not one leak has shown Russian meddling or Team Trump collusion with same.
This is both parties, with a push from the corrupt media, tamping down the Trump agenda.
Disgusting. Disgraceful.
There have been a million leaks in the past year. Not one leak has shown Russian meddling or Team Trump collusion with same.
This is both parties, with a push from the corrupt media, tamping down the Trump agenda.
Disgusting. Disgraceful.
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Donald trump and his associates are under federal investigation.
He should not be given the power to make Executive Orders or nominate Justices or Judges while under federal criminal and treason investigation.
What if he is found guilty? Gorsuch''s nomination and appointment is not legal, nor is any decision he has had a part in until we know if Trumps Presidency is legitimate
He should not be given the power to make Executive Orders or nominate Justices or Judges while under federal criminal and treason investigation.
What if he is found guilty? Gorsuch''s nomination and appointment is not legal, nor is any decision he has had a part in until we know if Trumps Presidency is legitimate
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Wrong. Gorsuch would be completely legit because he was confirmed by a majority of the Senate.
This why we're in this mess. Because so many people screaming "constitution" have never read it.
This why we're in this mess. Because so many people screaming "constitution" have never read it.
A further clue that POTUS is irrelevant to the running of this country, that POTUS doesn't run this country and that voting for POTUS and maybe democracy itself is just a thin veneer to keep us quiet by keeping us guessing and rationalizing.
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I think there are a few things that is going to come out from this investigation and disclosures in dealing with Russia, and especially Mike Flynn, one being that it is going to show how incompetent Donald Trump has been in allowing this guy who was doubling dealing with foreign entities at the expense of our own foreign policy, and two Mike Pence as either being totally incompetent and blatantly lying to the media throughout this past 110 days.
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The rule of law prevails. Wonderful!
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There are two people who understand the true significance of this appointment, Jeff Sessions and Don McGahn. When Sessions lawyers up, then it means that heads will be rolling.
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This is a test of American democracy. Last week high level Russians were in the White House mocking the firing of the director of the FBI, the law enforcement body that investigates spying and terrorism in America. They then walk inside where Trump gives them highly classified intelligence and are photographed as a smiling group by a Tass photographer while American photographers are barred. Within hours, a complete record of that meeting would have been in the Kremlin and the intelligence agent and network that Trump betrayed would have been traced. There were probably deaths, and compromised people.
Actions have consequences. A moment of braggadocio jeopardized lives and future warnings. ISIS now knows that the Americans know this particular attack and can modify their plans.
Russia interfered with the US election to put Trump in office. How deep is the rot? Flynn, Page, Manafort, RT sl but others who met with the Russians were Sessions and Jared. A book is out about Trump and Russian money launderers.
Stupidity and cupidity have come together in Trump. Which other Republicans took money or made promises to the Russians?
Mueller has a serious job to do. The coverup must stop. Trump should resign: he's in over his head and is incapable of being president. Too much harm has already been done.
Actions have consequences. A moment of braggadocio jeopardized lives and future warnings. ISIS now knows that the Americans know this particular attack and can modify their plans.
Russia interfered with the US election to put Trump in office. How deep is the rot? Flynn, Page, Manafort, RT sl but others who met with the Russians were Sessions and Jared. A book is out about Trump and Russian money launderers.
Stupidity and cupidity have come together in Trump. Which other Republicans took money or made promises to the Russians?
Mueller has a serious job to do. The coverup must stop. Trump should resign: he's in over his head and is incapable of being president. Too much harm has already been done.
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The truth always does seem to find a way out and Trump's cabal will hopefully be no exception. At this point no reasonable person should have any doubts about broad misconduct at the top of the Trump Campaign or Administration.
It has been said that Fish rot from the head and Trump certainly strives for at least the impression that he is the guy in charge. Can anyone honestly think his conduct in this matter and others has been appropriate? Only people living in the Conservative Media Bubble could have any doubts at this time.
My wish is that the American Media that has rallied in the wake of Trump's election would have vetted and investigated him while he was running for President instead of after the fact. So many gave him (CNN and MSNBC- I am calling you out in particular) an unprecedented forum to wage his campaign as a way to get cheap ratings by focusing on the spectacle rather than engage in serious journalism.
Given the FBIs conduct since 9-11 I am not a fan of Mr Muller, but hope he will do a fair job. Since this investigation could well put Mike Pence in the White House, we also need a deep dive into what he knew and at what point.
It has been said that Fish rot from the head and Trump certainly strives for at least the impression that he is the guy in charge. Can anyone honestly think his conduct in this matter and others has been appropriate? Only people living in the Conservative Media Bubble could have any doubts at this time.
My wish is that the American Media that has rallied in the wake of Trump's election would have vetted and investigated him while he was running for President instead of after the fact. So many gave him (CNN and MSNBC- I am calling you out in particular) an unprecedented forum to wage his campaign as a way to get cheap ratings by focusing on the spectacle rather than engage in serious journalism.
Given the FBIs conduct since 9-11 I am not a fan of Mr Muller, but hope he will do a fair job. Since this investigation could well put Mike Pence in the White House, we also need a deep dive into what he knew and at what point.
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Very few people on this site were more anti-Clinton than you were, and now you are complaining about Trump.
Are you Mike Pence ?
Are you Mike Pence ?
That Russia influenced the 2016 election to favor President Trump is a notion being pushed mostly Democrats and who I believe know the notion is false. But in attempting to keep the Democrat base engaged after a loss that nobody expected, a tale of a stolen election must be spun and kept alive.
Mr. Mueller, who now enjoys bipartisan respect, will find that Russia had no effect on the outcome of the 2016 elections. But this result will not be welcomed by those pushing the Russia narrative, and so, we can expect a movement will soon begin to discredit Mr. Mueller.
Mr. Mueller, who now enjoys bipartisan respect, will find that Russia had no effect on the outcome of the 2016 elections. But this result will not be welcomed by those pushing the Russia narrative, and so, we can expect a movement will soon begin to discredit Mr. Mueller.
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how are you 100% sure of this? it's because of this that an investigation is required. investigation doesn't mean Democrats won anything. it just means that they will look into the matter.
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"...so, we can expect a movement will soon begin to discredit Mr. Mueller..."
It's already underway as evidenced by some of the commenters "fearing a whitewash." What they really fear is that the investigation confirms what Trump has been saying: there is nothing there... And those who fear that result see the need for a fallback position. Political witch hunters are always certain that somewhere there must be at least one if not a coven...
It's already underway as evidenced by some of the commenters "fearing a whitewash." What they really fear is that the investigation confirms what Trump has been saying: there is nothing there... And those who fear that result see the need for a fallback position. Political witch hunters are always certain that somewhere there must be at least one if not a coven...
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If Mueller finds no coordination and contacts with Russian operatives, which is what the investigation is about, not effects on its outcome, then the vast majority of Democrats and of the nation will be satisfied.
This should have all been investigated and cleared up long ago, but Trump has been complaining and stonewalling and then fired Comey in the middle of it all and the House GOP stalled its own investigation . He has no one to blame but himself and his toadies in the House. But that doesn't stop his incessant whining.
This should have all been investigated and cleared up long ago, but Trump has been complaining and stonewalling and then fired Comey in the middle of it all and the House GOP stalled its own investigation . He has no one to blame but himself and his toadies in the House. But that doesn't stop his incessant whining.
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"Mr. Trump could still interfere by ordering Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mr. Mueller. The last president to order the firing of a special prosecutor investigating his associates was, of course, Richard Nixon."
I wouldn't put that past Donald Trump. What has he got to lose? He is the king of chaos. I fear the appointment of Mr. Mueller will be nothing more than a Pyrrhic victory. Trump will direct Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mueller. Rosenstein will either comply or (more likely) resign, plunging the nation into further turmoil.
It is well past time for the Republican majority to take the necessary steps to impeach Trump and remove him from office. They will not be sacrificing their agenda - Mike Pence is still a Republican. He is a strict conservative, sure. But at least he is not delusional.
I wouldn't put that past Donald Trump. What has he got to lose? He is the king of chaos. I fear the appointment of Mr. Mueller will be nothing more than a Pyrrhic victory. Trump will direct Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mueller. Rosenstein will either comply or (more likely) resign, plunging the nation into further turmoil.
It is well past time for the Republican majority to take the necessary steps to impeach Trump and remove him from office. They will not be sacrificing their agenda - Mike Pence is still a Republican. He is a strict conservative, sure. But at least he is not delusional.
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Mueller reports to the attorney general who can accept or reject his report or fire him. Democrats think president Trump will resign; he won't. It is very difficult to prove obstruction of justice so you can conclude that is also unlikely to happen. After no collusion is found with the Russians or president, the leftists will have egg on their face.
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First, Trump's troubles are self-inflicted, and have nothing to do with "leftists,"
as you say. Actually, Comey has documentation on all of his conversations with this president.
White house staffers told Politico Trump was determined to write in the letter firing Comey that the director assured him 3 times he wasn’t under investigation.
This is likely false. In fact, a white house adviser also told Politico that statement “probably will cause him more heartbreak than anything else.”
The remark worried officials after being printed — but few saw the letter before it went out. A senior official said Trump decided to include it when in New Jersey, where “none of us were.”
They know the president isn't truthful about that line in the letter. He's so relentlessly high-risk, this investigation will uncover other areas, as happened to Bill Clinton---who was cleared on everything they looked into first off, but was later impeached by the house (cleared by the senate) for lying about an affair. Trump is in much worse shape. Literally/figuratively.
as you say. Actually, Comey has documentation on all of his conversations with this president.
White house staffers told Politico Trump was determined to write in the letter firing Comey that the director assured him 3 times he wasn’t under investigation.
This is likely false. In fact, a white house adviser also told Politico that statement “probably will cause him more heartbreak than anything else.”
The remark worried officials after being printed — but few saw the letter before it went out. A senior official said Trump decided to include it when in New Jersey, where “none of us were.”
They know the president isn't truthful about that line in the letter. He's so relentlessly high-risk, this investigation will uncover other areas, as happened to Bill Clinton---who was cleared on everything they looked into first off, but was later impeached by the house (cleared by the senate) for lying about an affair. Trump is in much worse shape. Literally/figuratively.
Um, I just ate a fried egg. Does that count?
Pres. Trumps relationship with the Russians might go beyond the election manipulation. It conceivably could be that Putin and the oligarchs in Russia are deeply invested in Trumps companies, laundering money. This could also be the most serious problem. This is how those from outside could hold sway over Trump. Election issues pale in comparison. Hopefully the Special Counsels' role is not limited to only election issues. That's just tip tip of the iceberg.
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Is Mueller The Lone Ranger on a white horse fighting the Wild West bad guy who took over the whole town? Now we’ll watch how Trump's paranoia and instability will play out as the new investigation threatens him--- and, uncovers who knows what.
A belligerent Trump will be confronted by an equal and opposite mass of legitimate power. He can’t push around Mueller who is well respected as honest and competent by Gop and Dems. Trump was only informed it was done a half hour before announced to world. Trump must be seething. What an affront to his authority!
Carl Bernstein said on CNN that Trump has defied and demeaned the rule of law, and now will start being constrained as we pull back from the abyss.
(We hope).
But Trump may throw a temper tantrum, like in that cartoon of Donald the enraged infant in a highchair throwing his food around. I can just hear his screeches on twitter.
Some—not all-- in the Gop may be relieved to get to the truth, not being forced to defend a president they believe is unfit for office, and who is making the Dems look very good for 2018.
There were some Repubs who voted against Nixon’s impeachment, even after everything. Let’s see what happens this time.
A belligerent Trump will be confronted by an equal and opposite mass of legitimate power. He can’t push around Mueller who is well respected as honest and competent by Gop and Dems. Trump was only informed it was done a half hour before announced to world. Trump must be seething. What an affront to his authority!
Carl Bernstein said on CNN that Trump has defied and demeaned the rule of law, and now will start being constrained as we pull back from the abyss.
(We hope).
But Trump may throw a temper tantrum, like in that cartoon of Donald the enraged infant in a highchair throwing his food around. I can just hear his screeches on twitter.
Some—not all-- in the Gop may be relieved to get to the truth, not being forced to defend a president they believe is unfit for office, and who is making the Dems look very good for 2018.
There were some Repubs who voted against Nixon’s impeachment, even after everything. Let’s see what happens this time.
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i agree that mueller is a good and reputable person. But mueller has a long and friendly relationship with comey. If any investigation hinges on the credibility of comey versus trump testimony, how can that be fair to trump when mueller and comey have this past relationship. If I were trump, I would object to mueller. Isn't there any honest and reputable person out there that does not know any of the parties?
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Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein, I am an American person and, I accept your apology.
Now you will have to demonstrate that this is an honest apology by providing Special Counsel Mueller with all the resources he will need and not overriding his decisions if his findings start sending people to court. After all, Flynn did offer to testify before Congress if he was granted immunity which in Trump's book and, in his own, means he is guilty.
Now you will have to demonstrate that this is an honest apology by providing Special Counsel Mueller with all the resources he will need and not overriding his decisions if his findings start sending people to court. After all, Flynn did offer to testify before Congress if he was granted immunity which in Trump's book and, in his own, means he is guilty.
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I agree that Mueller is a good pick.
But why are we assuming that the four congressional committees investigating this matter cannot reach a satisfactory judgment?
But why are we assuming that the four congressional committees investigating this matter cannot reach a satisfactory judgment?
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Because they are chaired by people who are republicans, two of whom were previously sent out by trump to deflect Russia story, one of these who infamously resigned because of clown-like antics with White House on debunked trump wiretapping claim, and another who was ready to impeach Clinton if she had won and is now retiring/getting surgery. Moreover, they are seriously understaffed and do not have capacities of FBI to investigate thoroughly. And they have not acted in good faith to date spending valuable hearing time hewing party line focusing on leaks as the problem.
congressional committees & satisfactory judgement = oxymoron
It's wonderful to hear some good news from Washington and all our prayers should be for the success of this investigation whatever its conclusions. None the less, there is a huge issue which is not being officially addressed: the competence and honesty of the President. It is Mr. Trump's lack of competence ansd honesty ( as well perhaps as an apparent mental instability 0 which endangers his Presidency, the Nation, and the world.
We can hope for some clarity and sanity in the White House investigation, now that Mr. Mueller has been named special counsel. The prospect of having numerous Republican lead Senate and House committees battling to "fact find" would have brought the Nation even more chaos. Too many House and Senate members are working for or against the President. Too many Democrats shouting from the sidelines. Nothing good would have come from those partisan positioning politicians. I hope Mr. Mueller is successful in discovering who did what when and why, no matter the outcome. I finally agree with something Mitch McConnell said earlier this week; we have had enough drama from this White House.
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To those who reacted to his seeming indifference to the maelstrom around him I ask if this move appeases you, or even vindicates him in the eyes of you?
Twenty years ago Mr. Rosenstein spoke to the high school Practical Law class I taught. What I remember most was his almost laconic demeanor and even-keel, even when speaking to a group of adolescents. By far, he was not the most intriguing speaker I had. But the kids remained attentive and courteous. Other than that, I recall little else.
That said, the students were more patient in drawing conclusions than many who comment here.
Twenty years ago Mr. Rosenstein spoke to the high school Practical Law class I taught. What I remember most was his almost laconic demeanor and even-keel, even when speaking to a group of adolescents. By far, he was not the most intriguing speaker I had. But the kids remained attentive and courteous. Other than that, I recall little else.
That said, the students were more patient in drawing conclusions than many who comment here.
Yes, Mueller is a good pick. But where are we hoping it is going? The non-stop attacks on Trump will mean that anything uncovered by the investigation will not be believed by many of his supporters because they see him as attacked from day one, which is kind of true (though arguably if not clearly self-inflicted most of the time). A nation divided can not stand - and the whole world is watching us to see if we break apart or ultimately excel, the latter important because it contains the promise of democracy. Our partisanship foolishly generates hatred toward one another and is the opposite of that promise. Yes, we need the special counsel now due to unanswered questions, but we shouldn't salivate for the trouble that might bring. If we are doing that, then America needs not just counsel but counseling.
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This is too good to be true, as I keep wondering what's the catch.
I am not sure whether it's on me or the fact that Trump and his administration have been given many passes barely 4 months into it existence by the GOP-controlled congress as well as even the GOP rank and file.
The abnormal has become the norm, with not much of a push back from the GOP-controlled congress, as the president has focused on:
- crowd size
- imaginary wrongdoings by the previous president and administration
- vocal support for a historical adversary including ill-advised intelligence sharing
- abrupt firing of US attorneys, Acting Attorney General and the FBI director
- hiring and keeping an unregistered foreign agent, Michael Flynn, as National Security Advisor, warnings by many against the move notwithstanding
- mixing personal business with governing
- promoting nepotism
- asking the FBI director to drop the Flynn matter
and so on.
I keep wondering whether Trump will get away with all these questionable acts, something that'd have raised cries of impeachment from the GOP from the get-go had the president been from the Democratic party.
I hope Mueller is up to the task.
I am not sure whether it's on me or the fact that Trump and his administration have been given many passes barely 4 months into it existence by the GOP-controlled congress as well as even the GOP rank and file.
The abnormal has become the norm, with not much of a push back from the GOP-controlled congress, as the president has focused on:
- crowd size
- imaginary wrongdoings by the previous president and administration
- vocal support for a historical adversary including ill-advised intelligence sharing
- abrupt firing of US attorneys, Acting Attorney General and the FBI director
- hiring and keeping an unregistered foreign agent, Michael Flynn, as National Security Advisor, warnings by many against the move notwithstanding
- mixing personal business with governing
- promoting nepotism
- asking the FBI director to drop the Flynn matter
and so on.
I keep wondering whether Trump will get away with all these questionable acts, something that'd have raised cries of impeachment from the GOP from the get-go had the president been from the Democratic party.
I hope Mueller is up to the task.
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While I would never expect any results from Mr. Mueller within a few weeks, I fear this investigation might drag on and on thus leaving America as a man in the dock awaiting the jury's deliberations. Whatever the result, we need a timely but fair evaluation so Mr. Trump may get down to real work or be summarily returned to this tower where we can then ignore him.
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Ron Rosenstein, after having been pressured to write the memorandum giving a modicum of cover to Trump's firing of Comey, has courageously regained the esteem he previously enjoyed. The appointment of Robert Mueller is a burst of sunlight in the increasingly dark clouds over our nation.
Now let's get the facts of this mess out in the open and deal with them as a democracy that lives under the rules of law is supposed to.
Now let's get the facts of this mess out in the open and deal with them as a democracy that lives under the rules of law is supposed to.
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I have been very critical of Mr. Rosenstein and dubious about DOJ's ability to select a fair and qualified Special Counsel. I must admit that the selection of Bob Mueller is a master stroke. His is truly a man of unquestionable integrity who will thoroughly investigate illegalities within the Trump campaign, regardless of where they lead.
I look forward to having full sets of facts gathered and analyzed and having all parties who have demonstrably violated US law in these matters being prosecuted to the letter of the law.
I look forward to having full sets of facts gathered and analyzed and having all parties who have demonstrably violated US law in these matters being prosecuted to the letter of the law.
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Mr. Muller's role as special counsel to lead the allegations inherent to the Trump-Russia investigation is in great part due to the American people's protests, resistance, and persistence. In addition, Mr. Trump's authoritarian overreach regarding his policies and his demagogic assault on the media, has resulted in a more intense scrutiny of his administration.
"Mr. Trump could still interfere by ordering Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mr. Mueller." He could also order his associates not to cooperate with the special counsel, not disclose subpoenaed information and documents, or worse, attempt to destroy such evidence.
The last president to do so "was, of course, Richard Nixon."
"Mr. Trump could still interfere by ordering Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mr. Mueller." He could also order his associates not to cooperate with the special counsel, not disclose subpoenaed information and documents, or worse, attempt to destroy such evidence.
The last president to do so "was, of course, Richard Nixon."
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I have no doubt that trump and millions of his supporters will see this appointment as further evidence of the unfair treatment of trump. Never in the history of rich mans sons - has a man of extraordinary privilege been treated so unfairly. Trump is a man who has never had to play fair and by the rules by virtue of his birthright. For the first time in his life he has accountability and rules by which he must play. How grossly unfair. He thought he was going to be a dictator not a president. What still baffles me is why his supporters are so attached to this anti- working class hero.
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There have been two completely separate narratives sweeping the nation: one side says the president is guilty of severe misdeeds and should be removed from office and punished; the other side says he's being unfairly attacked by entrenched bureaucracies who don't want to lose their power. One side says where there's smoke there's fire; the other side says someone is simply creating a lot of smoke to make it look that way.
Either way, America desperately needs unbiased answers - and Robert Mueller is as unbiased as we're likely to find anywhere in this nation.
This is the best news to come out of Washington in a long time.
Either way, America desperately needs unbiased answers - and Robert Mueller is as unbiased as we're likely to find anywhere in this nation.
This is the best news to come out of Washington in a long time.
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I suspect that those who supported Trump and still do and those who opposed him and seek his impeachment will be encouraged by this development. Both sides want this to end with finality and clarity and an end to innuendo and partisanship on both sides. He will be judged by a man of experience and integrity and not by the MSM. Comey emerges as a pathetic figure. He treated Hillary and Trump in precisely the same way: sullying their reputations but not recommending indictment (Hillary) or exposing potential obstruction of justice (Trump) while he kept his own job. The nation needs to have the President exonerated or impeached and convicted.
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The appointment of Robert Mueller III as Special Counsel for the investigation of the Russia connection is the best news the country has received during this entire episode, and it is an important step in the rehabilitation of Rod Rosenstein’s badly damaged reputation.
Mueller is a serious, experienced man who can be expected to be fair and immune to the pressures exerted by highly partisan Republicans. Speaking of which, it is high time that Republicans on Capitol Hill put the interests of the nation ahead of their petty political interests.
Mueller is a serious, experienced man who can be expected to be fair and immune to the pressures exerted by highly partisan Republicans. Speaking of which, it is high time that Republicans on Capitol Hill put the interests of the nation ahead of their petty political interests.
Director Mueller is a great choice. Now on to the independent commission so the public can be involved and the overall state of our election process can be improved to the point where this can never take place again. I have two suggestions for the co-chairmen of the commission. Colon Powell and George Mitchell.
And most of all. Keep resisting.
And most of all. Keep resisting.
I sincerely hope that Mr. Robert Mueller III with an unblemished record can get the truth and find the skeletons Mr. Trump has been hiding.
He has nothing to fear, if he has nothing to hide.
Even if Mr. Trump is found innocent and is not impeached, I cannot believe he can keep this job for the next 1344 days.
Just look at what mess he has done on his 117th day in Office! Incredulous.
He has nothing to fear, if he has nothing to hide.
Even if Mr. Trump is found innocent and is not impeached, I cannot believe he can keep this job for the next 1344 days.
Just look at what mess he has done on his 117th day in Office! Incredulous.
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I wonder how THAT happened? A Republican cohort of Trump's, Rod Rosenstein, made a very wise and sorely needed appointment: Robert Mueller. I believe this is one of few men who can get the job of Special Counsel done right and openly and believable: things that are sorely needed during this administration. Especially since the President cannot fire him - a common hazard nowadays.
If Trump were a student of history, he would know that hearings expose the very worst of any president under investigation. Look for him to whine relentlessly about how the process is rigged by sore-loser Democrats, how the top-story media coverage is fake news, and how he's the most attacked president in the history of the world. And the best capper to a summer of televised hearings in which Trump's ship is publicly sunk? Above-the-fold headlines: "America to Trump: You're Fired."
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This is, of course, good news. But I can't help but worry about what happens later. If Mueller finds proof that Russia meddled in our election and the Trump campaign colluded with them, what then? Pence (who I believe would be even worse for the average American than Trump), as part of the Trump campaign, would be just as illegitimate as Trump and would be unfit to serve as President. And would we still be stuck with Justice Asterisk, er, Gorsuch? Ryan's certainly not the solution; I can't imagine anyone who would have a greater negative impact on the quality of life in the United States.
As far as I know we have no legal process for nullifying the entire election and starting over. What is the remedy? How are the American people made whole?
The needle on my worry tachometer may have come down a bit with this news but it's still in the red, maybe-the-engine-will-blow zone.
As far as I know we have no legal process for nullifying the entire election and starting over. What is the remedy? How are the American people made whole?
The needle on my worry tachometer may have come down a bit with this news but it's still in the red, maybe-the-engine-will-blow zone.
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We must not forget the complicity of Congressional Republicans in an obvious cover-up by the Trump Administration during next year's elections no matter what is publicly known at that time about the progress of the Mueller investigation. Period.
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"You've got to believe I didn't know anything."
-Nixon to Attorney General Richardson
But Richardson went on to appoint Archibald Cox Special Prosecutor on May 16, 1973. Coincidentally, Mr. Mueller is appointed in the same month following the election of Nixon and Trump. Ironic.
Hopefully we're on track now for a thorough investigation. Of course Mueller can always be fired by Trump. Seems that occurred once before!
-Nixon to Attorney General Richardson
But Richardson went on to appoint Archibald Cox Special Prosecutor on May 16, 1973. Coincidentally, Mr. Mueller is appointed in the same month following the election of Nixon and Trump. Ironic.
Hopefully we're on track now for a thorough investigation. Of course Mueller can always be fired by Trump. Seems that occurred once before!
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However good a job Mueller does, a significant portion of Americans will never believe it. "Fake News" is now the defense against any kind of inconvenient facts that challenge beliefs - and one party has essentially become a faith-driven cult where the strength of beliefs matter more than any facts or truth.
The performance of Trump, his administration, and the GOP Congress to date should have been a wake up call for anyone who believed their promises that they'd repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, or they'd make America stronger.
Instead we're seeing millions about to lose health care, an assault on Medicaid, tax cuts that will overwhelmingly benefit the rich - and Vladimir Putin openly mocking America and our democracy.
All the red trucker caps and rallies in the world won't make up for the damage that has been done and continues to be done by the minority president in the White House and his GOP enablers.
The performance of Trump, his administration, and the GOP Congress to date should have been a wake up call for anyone who believed their promises that they'd repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, or they'd make America stronger.
Instead we're seeing millions about to lose health care, an assault on Medicaid, tax cuts that will overwhelmingly benefit the rich - and Vladimir Putin openly mocking America and our democracy.
All the red trucker caps and rallies in the world won't make up for the damage that has been done and continues to be done by the minority president in the White House and his GOP enablers.
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Is it within Robert Mueller's rights to hire staff to assist him with this investigation?
James Comey would be an excellent addition to his team.
James Comey would be an excellent addition to his team.
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This wasn't what Trump had in mind. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, despite his sham recusal from the Russia investigation, was supposed to keep legal problems for president Trump suppressed. Mr. Sessions could not protect Trump from his own mouth and flaming incompetence.
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Since Trump is in the last year of his presidency, he shouldn't get to appoint any more judges, right Sen McConnell?
Every American can and should take heart with this appointment. I do not expect Mueller to uncover evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and Russia to sway the election, but after having watched "Get Me Roger Stone" on Netflix last night (a documentary every citizen should watch) I should know to expect anything. One thing I do expect is that evidence will come to light of deep and pervasive corruption on the part of those directly under investigation. If so, it will be a dark day for the nation, and very telling in how it is handled. Time will tell, but for now I for one am breathing a sigh of relief from all this madness, and I hope it is not only temporary.
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Let the chips fall where they may. The appointment of special Counsel Robert Mueller to investigate Russian connection and other matters is indeed what America needs badly. Robert Mueller is an apolitical person of the highest integrity in the entire USA and he will do the job with the highest efficiency and utmost clarity. While it gives confidence to the democrats that an able person such as Robert Mueller will lift the cloud over the president of USA one way or the other, it also snatches away any excuses by the senate to not do the job they were elected to do. The window of opportunity to do the people's work and get on with the job of passing a better health care bill if Obamacare is repealed or prop up Obamacare if it is not repealed. Pass the tax reform law and cut taxes on working class average Americans and raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires including the Trumps. Pass a fair and compassionate immigration reform. Work with allies and major powers like China and Russia to bring an end to global terrorism, and promote fair trade. The country can be assured that the investigation is in good hands and progress in the right direction. I have full confidence that justice will be done. You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else...........Winston Churchill
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Raise taxes on millionaires? Fair immigration reform? A good health care replacement? You call for the exact opposite of every Republican's agenda. You know it will never happen.
I agree with your comments about Muller, but think you mis-characterized what the President Trump was elected to do.
Regarding: "Pass the tax reform law and cut taxes on working class average Americans and raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires including the Trumps."
Regarding: "the job of passing a better health care bill"
In this case better means power returned to the states, purchasing across state line, ...
I believe the proposes includes tax cuts for everyone, and not the tax increases on the wealthy. Of great importance are lowering corporate income taxes because they create an incentive to move jobs overseas.
Regarding:
"Pass a fair and compassionate immigration reform. "
The immigration reform Trump was elected to do relies heavily on border control (a wall) and deportation particularly focusing on criminals. Illegal immigration and abuse of H1B visas are lowering wages and taking jobs.
Hopefully the investigation will be focuses on illegal Russian Collusion. I expect it will put the admin under a microscope and go off endless directions. Remember Ken Star?
Regarding: "Pass the tax reform law and cut taxes on working class average Americans and raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires including the Trumps."
Regarding: "the job of passing a better health care bill"
In this case better means power returned to the states, purchasing across state line, ...
I believe the proposes includes tax cuts for everyone, and not the tax increases on the wealthy. Of great importance are lowering corporate income taxes because they create an incentive to move jobs overseas.
Regarding:
"Pass a fair and compassionate immigration reform. "
The immigration reform Trump was elected to do relies heavily on border control (a wall) and deportation particularly focusing on criminals. Illegal immigration and abuse of H1B visas are lowering wages and taking jobs.
Hopefully the investigation will be focuses on illegal Russian Collusion. I expect it will put the admin under a microscope and go off endless directions. Remember Ken Star?
Greg from Portland Maine. I am an optimist putting forward my perspective as a registered non partisan independent and whether the divided Republican's with a majority have an agenda or democrats united on a one point agenda they both have to have a centrist agenda that is best for all Americans and that will ensure their reelection. Ignore independent voices at your own peril. Ultimately a booming economy, a sound health plan, balanced budget with appropriate spending cuts that will start rapidly paying down the national debt will contribute to the well being of all Americans. Listen to what billionaires themselves are telling Congress, tax us if that brings down the national debt.
John from NYS, whatever president Trump was elected to do is not all practically doable as his first 125+ days have clearly demonstrated. He needs to fine tune his plan to get bipartisan support and achieve the same outcome. Trump is at the cross roads and so are the Republicans and democrats. Either you work to put the best plan for the nation or risk losing the next election. I have just proposed what I think would be a great plan for national renewal. With regard to the immigration reform, I don't mean the plan for blocking illegal immigration or enforcing the immigration laws, I mean how best to execute future legal immigration as well as how to deal with those currently residing undocumented persons who have not committed any crime.
John from NYS, whatever president Trump was elected to do is not all practically doable as his first 125+ days have clearly demonstrated. He needs to fine tune his plan to get bipartisan support and achieve the same outcome. Trump is at the cross roads and so are the Republicans and democrats. Either you work to put the best plan for the nation or risk losing the next election. I have just proposed what I think would be a great plan for national renewal. With regard to the immigration reform, I don't mean the plan for blocking illegal immigration or enforcing the immigration laws, I mean how best to execute future legal immigration as well as how to deal with those currently residing undocumented persons who have not committed any crime.
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Times Editorial certainly does not square with appraisal of Mueller by their own columnist back in the day. William Safire put it this way: Mueller is "an intelligent apparatchik who showed a marked lack of interest in pursuing the Iraqgate investigation. He helped staff the Public Integrity Division (dealing with political corruption) with time-servers who would not rock the boat."
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What bizarro world do you live? There are a lot of questions about this guy and the sycophants that surround him. Whatever it is, has to come out one way or another
Yes, with every day Trump is revealing himself to be a Bizzaro case of an American autocrat, and, yes, almost any effort should be made to politically topple him – but the fact that from all the suspected crimes and misdemeanors of the Trump’s administration an extreme anti-Kremlin course was chosen as basically the only course of action will prove to be an historical blunder.
Let’s take the worst-case scenario for Trump: assume that after an intensive and fair effort Mr. Mueller’s investigation will reveal that among Trump’s closest circle there were indeed senior figures who knowingly and actively asked for a Russian interference in the election, then let’s go further and assume that the President himself will be exposed as secretly colluding with the Kremlin. However, unless Mueller will find hard evidence that Trump’s connections with the Russian were of the criminal sort (a “Muscovite Candidate”), the chances that Trump will resign are about as the chances that he’ll reveal his full tax returns, and the chances that Congress will impeach him are not much higher. In the meantime, America is seethed with an anti-Russian atmosphere and in Russia they start preparing for a Western siege. The chance for a rapprochement is being markedly diminished with the continuing expansion of the “Russian Scandal”. A dark historical intuition is warning me it will all end up with a world order on the brink of superpowers confrontation and Trump and Putin fingers on the button.
Let’s take the worst-case scenario for Trump: assume that after an intensive and fair effort Mr. Mueller’s investigation will reveal that among Trump’s closest circle there were indeed senior figures who knowingly and actively asked for a Russian interference in the election, then let’s go further and assume that the President himself will be exposed as secretly colluding with the Kremlin. However, unless Mueller will find hard evidence that Trump’s connections with the Russian were of the criminal sort (a “Muscovite Candidate”), the chances that Trump will resign are about as the chances that he’ll reveal his full tax returns, and the chances that Congress will impeach him are not much higher. In the meantime, America is seethed with an anti-Russian atmosphere and in Russia they start preparing for a Western siege. The chance for a rapprochement is being markedly diminished with the continuing expansion of the “Russian Scandal”. A dark historical intuition is warning me it will all end up with a world order on the brink of superpowers confrontation and Trump and Putin fingers on the button.
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His tax returns can be ordered to be produced.
To Alice, I was referring to willingly revealing his tax situation.
Goodness, speculation after speculation!! Let the investigation just run its course. Please try to suppress your "dark historical intuition". A glass of wine might help.
I'm glad to hear this, hopefully it will illuminate the truth behind the rumors of collusion with Russia, and hopefully any problem individuals can be dealt with in accordance with their crimes...
Of course at this point I'd also love for Trump to undergo a full mental examination, he doesn't act like someone in full possession of his faculties.
Of course at this point I'd also love for Trump to undergo a full mental examination, he doesn't act like someone in full possession of his faculties.
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Robert Mueller’s arrival follows leaks to the media about Trump’s ties to Russia and justified media outcry for a proper investigation. Cheers to those brave enough to whisper truth to power and to a free and responsible media for helping convince good people who believe in justice to examine what this government wants hidden.
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Is it possible that this is the first step for the President to actually start getting actual work done? This may be a blessing in disguise for his administration. Mueller will work his way through the mess of data. The administration can move on to the next crisis while this festers or actually goes away (Trump is unlikely to have the ability to knowingly conspire with a foreign power it appears.)
At the heart of this announcement is a sound and ethical Rosenstein; another check on a misguided Presidency that is likely to serve as a civics lesson for centuries to come. Hopefully we learn enough to flip the house and end this charade with an historic impeachment.
Thank you Deputy AG Rosenstein for living up to your life’s work. Let's move on and let Mueller complete his.
At the heart of this announcement is a sound and ethical Rosenstein; another check on a misguided Presidency that is likely to serve as a civics lesson for centuries to come. Hopefully we learn enough to flip the house and end this charade with an historic impeachment.
Thank you Deputy AG Rosenstein for living up to your life’s work. Let's move on and let Mueller complete his.
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It looks like Kushner, the son in law who loves to publicly appear with Ivanka at his hand like a yuge shiny catch piece of ah... jewelry, and who poses as a holy grail of future Republican hope, has his pants, his jacket, his suit and his kippah on fire.
He pressed for firing Comey and look what he got.
It also is not improbable that discombobulating top of the bobble-head flops Mike Pence and open white supremacy sinew Jeff Sessions might be dragged up and down as a by-catch of the independent special counsel investigation.
If you got stock in this government, as they say on Wall Street: "Sell in may and go away."
He pressed for firing Comey and look what he got.
It also is not improbable that discombobulating top of the bobble-head flops Mike Pence and open white supremacy sinew Jeff Sessions might be dragged up and down as a by-catch of the independent special counsel investigation.
If you got stock in this government, as they say on Wall Street: "Sell in may and go away."
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Part Two:
Kristoff has written a great piece and should be congratulated by all for his insight and research. Thank you, sir!! (If there is a Comment Button, I cannot find it.)
Yes. Some heads will roll and LTG (Re) Flynn may be one of the first. How high will it go? Only time will tell. In more than a few ways, I am reminded of the Nixon/Watergate business: Al Haig went home [mostly clean and Dick Nixon also went home, but with dirty h ands. Number 45 has filthy hands, but if he goes home, it will not be voluntarily. One way or another, he should be removed from office - and access to that "Little Red Button." He is mentally unstable and I do not trust him. " His objective[ was to win, but having done so, he has no clue about governing. Beyond issuing Executive Orders - many of which the courts have blocked, the fool refuses to talk too the Congress. Does he see himself as a dictator? Mueller - or the country, need to curb this fool, quickly and before he finds the "Little Red Button.". He IS Crazy enough to push it! He has NO business being our resident and even his own party does not support him. Rather young children and extended family members asp 'senior' advisors? Nuts. At most, they are quietly pursuing business opportunities for #45's empire. with transportation, housing and security courtesy of the Secret Service and those who pay taxes; he certainly does not. He must GO! -CG
-CG
Kristoff has written a great piece and should be congratulated by all for his insight and research. Thank you, sir!! (If there is a Comment Button, I cannot find it.)
Yes. Some heads will roll and LTG (Re) Flynn may be one of the first. How high will it go? Only time will tell. In more than a few ways, I am reminded of the Nixon/Watergate business: Al Haig went home [mostly clean and Dick Nixon also went home, but with dirty h ands. Number 45 has filthy hands, but if he goes home, it will not be voluntarily. One way or another, he should be removed from office - and access to that "Little Red Button." He is mentally unstable and I do not trust him. " His objective[ was to win, but having done so, he has no clue about governing. Beyond issuing Executive Orders - many of which the courts have blocked, the fool refuses to talk too the Congress. Does he see himself as a dictator? Mueller - or the country, need to curb this fool, quickly and before he finds the "Little Red Button.". He IS Crazy enough to push it! He has NO business being our resident and even his own party does not support him. Rather young children and extended family members asp 'senior' advisors? Nuts. At most, they are quietly pursuing business opportunities for #45's empire. with transportation, housing and security courtesy of the Secret Service and those who pay taxes; he certainly does not. He must GO! -CG
-CG
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Robert Mueller III being named special counsel is a positive step, but I fear Trump will use it to tear the country apart. Trump is man with no moral compass and no limits. While these last 4 months have been profoundly chaotic and dangerous, things will likely get worse before they get better. It should come as no surprise that Trump's base still believes that this is nothing but a conspiracy cooked up by Democrats, the media, and deep state operatives answering to former president Obama. Trump was the foremost spokesperson and advocate for the baseless "birther movement" conspiracy theories. How effortless is it to simply extend those conspiracy theories to what is happening now and place the Black Kenyan Muslim former president at the center of all of Trump's current problems? You would think there would be agreement that Trump's impact on foreign policy, and most dramatically his relationship with Putin and the Russians, has been a disaster. You would think Americans across the political spectrum would understand that Vladimir Putin is not simply the head of a dangerous authoritarian state, but a de facto dictator determined to undermine American democracy. However, this is not the case. Yes, Mueller is widely respected across the political spectrum, but don't expect Trump or his very large group of adherents to accept anything from him. Trump lies every time he breathes and he'll try to burn the entire country to the ground if Mueller's investigation gains any traction.
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Don't forget blaming Obama for Flynn.
You don't seem to understand that Mueller isn't going to just write a report, which voters can accept or reject. Mueller has been appointed a special PROSECUTOR which means he can prosecute people (duh) for committing crimes. Including TRUMP AND HIS PARASITES. Can Mueller be fired? Yes, but have you ever heard of the Saturday Night Massacre and what that lead to?
Mueller's power far exceeds that of any commission appointed by the House or Senate. They can issue subpoenas and refer people to the DOJ for prosecution, but the DOJ can accept or reject that recommendation.
Mueller's power far exceeds that of any commission appointed by the House or Senate. They can issue subpoenas and refer people to the DOJ for prosecution, but the DOJ can accept or reject that recommendation.
where is Jared and Ivanka
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Asking their team of lawyers at WilmerHale how their old boss, Robert Mueller, is enjoying his new role "investigating" daddy.
This is all a lovely exercise, and Mr. Mueller is indeed a fine choice. But it won't matter in the end. Republican leaders in Congress will never impeach Trump, no matter how dangerous he becomes. We can only hope and pray that they are somehow able to keep his finger off the nuclear button, and to keep him from blabbing the codes to foreign powers.
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It has been brought to my attention through news media that President Trump still has the authority to fire even this new special counsel. My opinion is someone should contact Deputy. AG Rod Rosenstien and ask that his office give Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Special Declaration so that no one, not even the President himself can fire another person who is investigating this matter.
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Debbie, re-read the story! The President does NOT have the power to fire Mueller!
That rests with Rosenstein, the deputy AG.
Now, a la Nixon, Trump could order Rosenstein to fire Mueller-- but R. could refuse and then be fired -- or, resign instead.
If Trump tried that, it would be blatant obstruction of justice, exactly parallel what Nixon did, and even leading Republicans would bring impeachment charges.
Trump may be foolish enough to try it, but only because, deep down, he wants to go home to Trump Tower.
But, directly fire Mueller, no!
That rests with Rosenstein, the deputy AG.
Now, a la Nixon, Trump could order Rosenstein to fire Mueller-- but R. could refuse and then be fired -- or, resign instead.
If Trump tried that, it would be blatant obstruction of justice, exactly parallel what Nixon did, and even leading Republicans would bring impeachment charges.
Trump may be foolish enough to try it, but only because, deep down, he wants to go home to Trump Tower.
But, directly fire Mueller, no!
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I believe he can only be fired for cause. And I don't think not liking where an investigation is going is reason enough. That, after all, was the beginning of the end for Nixon when he wanted Archibald Cox gone.
Too bad Trump won't/can't read. Engaging in a short primer on how Watergate went down might be instructive.
Too bad Trump won't/can't read. Engaging in a short primer on how Watergate went down might be instructive.
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Game of Phonies just got even more interesting! Who writes this script? They deserve an Emmy! Seriously though, Rosenstein just added some much needed credibility back to the Justice Department. Take that Mr Trump - actions do have consequences!
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I was beginning to lose hope of an impartial investigation. Thank you Mr.Rosenstein.
I hope the congress gets its act together and puts country first.
I hope the congress gets its act together and puts country first.
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What a difference the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller will likely make.
It is difficult to believe that less than a week ago, the NYT reported:
"President Trump’s lawyers say his income tax returns do not show income from Russian sources or debt owed to Russians, with the exception of $95 million paid by a Russian billionaire for a Trump-owned estate in Florida and $12.2 million in payments in connection with holding the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013.
And now this.
Mr. Mueller will be asking questions such as: Was the $95 million paid by a Russian oligarch for a property which Trump had purchased for less than $50 million simply a fair market exchange? Or was money laundering involved?
$12 million from the Russians here and $45-50 million from a Russian oligarch there may be chump change to Trump and a small "exception" to his lawyers, but it is no trivial matter. Trump's take from the Russians dwarfs that of Mr. Flynn--and Flynn was forced to resign.
Mr. Mueller's investigation will follow the money, the debt and the possibility of money laundering associated with Trump's personal and corporate endeavors.
The Trump clan's numerous conflicts of interest are evident to all who have eyes, ears and noses. Surely Mr. Mueller's investigation will expand to encompass the entire Trump clan's dubious enterprises.
It is difficult to believe that less than a week ago, the NYT reported:
"President Trump’s lawyers say his income tax returns do not show income from Russian sources or debt owed to Russians, with the exception of $95 million paid by a Russian billionaire for a Trump-owned estate in Florida and $12.2 million in payments in connection with holding the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013.
And now this.
Mr. Mueller will be asking questions such as: Was the $95 million paid by a Russian oligarch for a property which Trump had purchased for less than $50 million simply a fair market exchange? Or was money laundering involved?
$12 million from the Russians here and $45-50 million from a Russian oligarch there may be chump change to Trump and a small "exception" to his lawyers, but it is no trivial matter. Trump's take from the Russians dwarfs that of Mr. Flynn--and Flynn was forced to resign.
Mr. Mueller's investigation will follow the money, the debt and the possibility of money laundering associated with Trump's personal and corporate endeavors.
The Trump clan's numerous conflicts of interest are evident to all who have eyes, ears and noses. Surely Mr. Mueller's investigation will expand to encompass the entire Trump clan's dubious enterprises.
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Not to mention looking into the "intriguing" arrangement whereby Trump "bought" a Caribbean mansion from Hilbert who had licensed Melania's beauty line, but had run into financial and legal problems.
"“Because of the horrible position that this unfounded ridiculous litigation has put us into, we had to sell the home,” Hilbert testified in federal court, according to a transcript. “So I went to Donald and asked if he would buy it.”
It's the same mansion Trump's now trying to sell at an outrageously inflated price.
One question is, "Why now?!"
A second question is who was the Russian who had originally expressed interest in buying it?
Third, a big problem is that unknown persons or foreign entities may buy it -- to curry favor, to influence U.S. policies...
Trump's own lawyer Dillon even argued he shouldn't sell off his assets; past government ethics officials have said he should pull it off the market; and making a profit or selling to a foreign government or connected sources would be a violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution.
What's going on with this property?!
See https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-huuuuuge-caribbean-estate...
"“Because of the horrible position that this unfounded ridiculous litigation has put us into, we had to sell the home,” Hilbert testified in federal court, according to a transcript. “So I went to Donald and asked if he would buy it.”
It's the same mansion Trump's now trying to sell at an outrageously inflated price.
One question is, "Why now?!"
A second question is who was the Russian who had originally expressed interest in buying it?
Third, a big problem is that unknown persons or foreign entities may buy it -- to curry favor, to influence U.S. policies...
Trump's own lawyer Dillon even argued he shouldn't sell off his assets; past government ethics officials have said he should pull it off the market; and making a profit or selling to a foreign government or connected sources would be a violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution.
What's going on with this property?!
See https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-huuuuuge-caribbean-estate...
Do we think Trump made Flynn National Security Advisor, despite the baggage, because Flynn had the goods on Trump & Russia and needed to be kept quiet?
Finally, our system of checks and balances began to work.
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How so ? The White House can can this guy tomorrow if they please.
Perhaps the Times should be a little more skeptical of a pick from the very same people who literally just picked Flynn to lead the NSA.
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Dear Fran Soyer,
We get it. You will not be satisfied until they give you Trump's head on the end of pike. Why don't you take a deep breath and let's see what Robert Mueller finds. If, as I suspect, he will find something, you may get your wish. Nevertheless, it is a bit disingenuous to start complaining that the investigation is useless before it has even begun.
I weary of knee jerk partisans.
We get it. You will not be satisfied until they give you Trump's head on the end of pike. Why don't you take a deep breath and let's see what Robert Mueller finds. If, as I suspect, he will find something, you may get your wish. Nevertheless, it is a bit disingenuous to start complaining that the investigation is useless before it has even begun.
I weary of knee jerk partisans.
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I'm not only not a partisan, I'm a registered Republican. But unlike my other fellow Republicans, I realize that a "con artist" ( Marco Rubio ), and a "fraud, a phony" ( Mitt Romney ) is unfit to serve our country as President.
Firing his investigator and picking his replacement from his daughter's law firm is just another reason in the hundreds he's accumulated to date.
You're welcome.
Firing his investigator and picking his replacement from his daughter's law firm is just another reason in the hundreds he's accumulated to date.
You're welcome.
What a spectacle at just how fast the so-called “successful businessman” in the oval office is proving unfit for the job, and how spineless and feckless a group of cowards McConnell, Ryan and the rest of the GOP are in coming to terms with this reality. It’s a shameful national embarrassment.
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John, it is exceptional in all of the wrong ways. After the orange one is frog walked out of the White House will it take years or decades for America to rehabilitate it's tarnished reputation?
This development could alter President Trump's plans for a book, which might have been titled The Taming of the Screw.
Adopting a conciliatory pose in the face of this shows how a firebrand can eventually become a member of the establishment, sort of like Geronimo appearing in coat & tie for interviews & photo ops so long ago on the reservation.
Nobody wants the nuclear codes to become a political football. BTW, does anyone know the whereabouts of the dude carrying the bowling bag with said codes down in Mar-a-Lago?
Adopting a conciliatory pose in the face of this shows how a firebrand can eventually become a member of the establishment, sort of like Geronimo appearing in coat & tie for interviews & photo ops so long ago on the reservation.
Nobody wants the nuclear codes to become a political football. BTW, does anyone know the whereabouts of the dude carrying the bowling bag with said codes down in Mar-a-Lago?
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The GOP surfboard that Trump is riding down the volcano of discontent is melting as it becomes less stable.
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For the love of god, subpoena the taxes.
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions violated his pledge to recuse himself from the Russian investigation when he recommended the firing of FBI Director, James Comey, who was pursuing the Russian inquiry. Sessions, who lied about his Russian contacts during the presidential campaign, was part of that investigation. This is an issue that needs to be pursued and clarified, once and for all. Because of Sessions' deception and deep political involvement in the Trump campaign, many Americans have lost trust in the Department of Justice.
Sessions would do the country a favor if he resigned.
Sessions would do the country a favor if he resigned.
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The fate of our country is now in the hands of d law enforcement authorities judges an that we entrust to do the right thing. The president and the congress have failed us.
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All because some people decided to judge a guy who they knew lies every single day as somehow acceptable because Hillary said "sniper fire" in 2008 and therefore "they're both liars, so what's the difference ?"
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This is a relief, although best would have been the appointment of an "independent counsel" as prescribed by Title VI of the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, since that position, unlike this one, would be impervious to interference by the administration. But that law expired in 1999 and there'd be no chance of reenacting it with the current Republican herd in Congress as led by the sycophantic, hypocritical McConnell and Ryan.
That said...
What are the checks on a president's perfidious use of our country’s nuclear capability?
The Trump presidency is now on a path to an end game. And Trump himself, unpredictable as a matter of proven disposition, can be expected to behave like the most volatile cornered animal when he perceives that his tower (of deceit) is about to come crashing down.
"Fight, fight, fight," he said, alluding to how he will respond.
Frighteningly, we've already seen him use military force on a whim and for solely PR purposes (and followed, it’s worth noting, by his inability to demonstrate certainty about which country he'd attacked or which way his ships were sailing).
So what would happen if, once cornered, he were to order some operation involving nuclear weapons, as a "gut"-driven attempt to change the game? Would it come down to whether or not some sworn military officer would disobey an order from the C-in-C? Or is there a concrete process that separates the president from the “nuclear button” by one or more steps involving other people?
That said...
What are the checks on a president's perfidious use of our country’s nuclear capability?
The Trump presidency is now on a path to an end game. And Trump himself, unpredictable as a matter of proven disposition, can be expected to behave like the most volatile cornered animal when he perceives that his tower (of deceit) is about to come crashing down.
"Fight, fight, fight," he said, alluding to how he will respond.
Frighteningly, we've already seen him use military force on a whim and for solely PR purposes (and followed, it’s worth noting, by his inability to demonstrate certainty about which country he'd attacked or which way his ships were sailing).
So what would happen if, once cornered, he were to order some operation involving nuclear weapons, as a "gut"-driven attempt to change the game? Would it come down to whether or not some sworn military officer would disobey an order from the C-in-C? Or is there a concrete process that separates the president from the “nuclear button” by one or more steps involving other people?
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This is the first good news I've heard since Election night!
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Newt Gingrich pronounced Trump as ethical and honest as himself. Newt states, "I know for a fact President Trump holds himself to the same level of ethics-honesty-integrity that I do", If it has the Newt good housekeeping seal of approval what else is necessary?
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Great news for America! Downside is a Congressional Repub agenda poised to get back on track. But at least there's hope that upcoming elections can be more of a course correction than a do or die for our democracy.
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Oh, thank god, there are men still, like Rosenstein and Mueller!
Just when I had given up up hope.
Just when I had thought statesmen no longer existed.
Just when I thought there were no men who rode in on white horses to save the day.
No matter the outcome, a moral person to find the truth, someone I can believe in, whether Trump et al were or were not involved in the Russian attack on America . Oh my god, to believe in the truth. That's all I ever wanted. A great weight has been lifted from my shoulders.
Just when I had given up up hope.
Just when I had thought statesmen no longer existed.
Just when I thought there were no men who rode in on white horses to save the day.
No matter the outcome, a moral person to find the truth, someone I can believe in, whether Trump et al were or were not involved in the Russian attack on America . Oh my god, to believe in the truth. That's all I ever wanted. A great weight has been lifted from my shoulders.
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Mr. Trump is in way over his head.
He has no clue about the workings of politics -- except that money gets you access and sometimes gets you elected. He has no conception of the President as a constitutional officer and, at best, has only a glancing knowledge of history. He has no clue about moral leadership or of the fact that while integrity may be in short supply in his crowd, there are more than enough women and men of high ethical standards -- such as Mr. Mueller -- who put country ahead of greed.
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An afterthought: His cabinet members should be wary of dealing with him and of carrying out his assaults on our government. Their loyalty must be to the Constitution and the good of the American people.
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He has no clue about the workings of politics -- except that money gets you access and sometimes gets you elected. He has no conception of the President as a constitutional officer and, at best, has only a glancing knowledge of history. He has no clue about moral leadership or of the fact that while integrity may be in short supply in his crowd, there are more than enough women and men of high ethical standards -- such as Mr. Mueller -- who put country ahead of greed.
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An afterthought: His cabinet members should be wary of dealing with him and of carrying out his assaults on our government. Their loyalty must be to the Constitution and the good of the American people.
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Consistent with his character, Mr. Trump will pressure Mr. Rosenstein to fire Mr. Mueller should the latter get too close to uncovering unpleasant truths. Mr. Rosentein will surely decline to do so at which time the Trump will be unable to resist his powerful vindictive impulse to fire the deputy Attorney General. Watch this space.
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''Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, OR OF THE PRESS.... ''
It would appear the free press has saved the country from a criminal presidency again.
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''Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, OR OF THE PRESS.... ''
It would appear the free press has saved the country from a criminal presidency again.
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Let's take one day only for a sigh of relief, and then focus our efforts on finding strong Democratic candidates for 2018 and supporting them.
We need to fight gerrymandering wherever we can, and advocate for common sense independent redistricting commissions in every state, so radical right wingers don't have so many safe seats.
We need to keep protesting vote suppression tactics and fight for vote-by-mail in every state so everyone's vote is equally easily cast and counted.
We need to stop letting Trump horrify us into inaction, and start doing everything we can to change the country for the better.
We need to fight gerrymandering wherever we can, and advocate for common sense independent redistricting commissions in every state, so radical right wingers don't have so many safe seats.
We need to keep protesting vote suppression tactics and fight for vote-by-mail in every state so everyone's vote is equally easily cast and counted.
We need to stop letting Trump horrify us into inaction, and start doing everything we can to change the country for the better.
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Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. Or the trick cigar that keeps on exploding.
Restless Donald just can't sit still in the Big Chair of the Oval Office and someone manages to flip over backward onto the floor. Where there is no crisis, he will find a way to make one. Even if this Russian caper evaporated, Trump will blunder into another fiasco: moth into the flame, and so forth.
Robert Mueller's resume looks solid, and I think Trump may finally have the adversary he deserves: someone with clout who does not give a fig about his boasts and bullying. Forget the presidential TV debates - this is the real contest to watch.
Restless Donald just can't sit still in the Big Chair of the Oval Office and someone manages to flip over backward onto the floor. Where there is no crisis, he will find a way to make one. Even if this Russian caper evaporated, Trump will blunder into another fiasco: moth into the flame, and so forth.
Robert Mueller's resume looks solid, and I think Trump may finally have the adversary he deserves: someone with clout who does not give a fig about his boasts and bullying. Forget the presidential TV debates - this is the real contest to watch.
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This is great for America, American democracy and perhaps a reminder to those in public service that they are not above the law and that they are elected to serve the public, not the powerful interests. Trump is all the rings the readers have been saying he is. America elected him. A shame on us for electing the most incompetent for the most powerful position in the world.
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This appointment also obliges the NYT to tone down the front page and get back to the business of being a real newspaper. In particular, not throw a fit at the president's every casual utterance, be it on Twitter or sourced through disgruntled state department types.
Fact is, when ranking the record of serving the people by the various estates, the fourth estate these days is coming a solid, err, fourth. And the president consistently #1. Solely because of your self-appointed crusades, trust in the news media has gone further and further south, and is far, far more troublesome, than a president still learning to be presidential. For good cause too: The Times has been around for over a 100 years, Trump less than 200 days.
Translation: Trump's casual utterances and tantrums get a free pass, while your's only heaps of contempt, both of which this commenter has regularly pointed-out over the past two years. Yes Messrs. Blow and Krugman, you guys at the head of this journo wolf-pack. Make this paper great again, not grey-out again. Get?
Fact is, when ranking the record of serving the people by the various estates, the fourth estate these days is coming a solid, err, fourth. And the president consistently #1. Solely because of your self-appointed crusades, trust in the news media has gone further and further south, and is far, far more troublesome, than a president still learning to be presidential. For good cause too: The Times has been around for over a 100 years, Trump less than 200 days.
Translation: Trump's casual utterances and tantrums get a free pass, while your's only heaps of contempt, both of which this commenter has regularly pointed-out over the past two years. Yes Messrs. Blow and Krugman, you guys at the head of this journo wolf-pack. Make this paper great again, not grey-out again. Get?
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For some reason I'm remind of early 2011, when somewhere here amid the rambling rabble of the "un-verified" commentariat, I predicted (just after Assad's opening shots on protesters) that civil war would erupt in Syrian and it would last a decade and make the Lebanese civil war look like a day in the park. Now, I'm not saying I'm right about everything (certainly was wrong about 2016 US election), and I'm not saying civil war will erupt in America, but I know a quagmire when I see one forming, and it's definitely forming here.
This is, indeed, only the end of the beginning, folks. Whether Trump leaves office (by whatever means) tomorrow or next year, it's only begun. Mueller will help find some truth about some things, but 2016 exposed the rot at America's core, and 2017 is only starting to show the effects and insidiousness of it all. Hold fast.
This is, indeed, only the end of the beginning, folks. Whether Trump leaves office (by whatever means) tomorrow or next year, it's only begun. Mueller will help find some truth about some things, but 2016 exposed the rot at America's core, and 2017 is only starting to show the effects and insidiousness of it all. Hold fast.
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Most of us are relieved and supportive of Mr. Muelle's appointment as Special Counsel. He has a heavy burden to bear. Great expectations of justice, transparency and truth.
Sir, the republic looks to you for clarity and justice.
Sir, the republic looks to you for clarity and justice.
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I'm all for Robert Mueller as Special Counsel. But be aware that if he gets too close to what Trump's been hiding, Trump STILL has the power to fire him! It might be the "Doomsday button" but it won't stop Trump from pushing it, and betting that the House doesn't have the brass to impeach him, and the Senate doesn't have backbone to convict him. Because the Law still has the Special Counsel serving at the "pleasure" of the POTUS.
The story of Trump's life: Risk, and burn down the house rather than concede defeat. Six bankruptcies, countless vendors stiffed, many ruined. Because Donald J. Trump may well be THE most selfish man in the world, and certainly in the United States.
The story of Trump's life: Risk, and burn down the house rather than concede defeat. Six bankruptcies, countless vendors stiffed, many ruined. Because Donald J. Trump may well be THE most selfish man in the world, and certainly in the United States.
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From what I've read, I don't believe Trump can fire a special counsel. Rosenstein could fire him. Sessions has recused himself from the Russia probe, though he's slimy enough to put himself back in the picture if things get too warm. So we'll see.
"Trump STILL has the power to fire him!"
Not exactly. Trump could ask the AG (Sessions) to fire him, but he has reused himself from the investigation. Then, he could ask Rosenstein to fire him, but that's who hired him. Then he could ask Sessions to fire Rosenstein, and on and on and on. It's not that cut-and-dried.
Not exactly. Trump could ask the AG (Sessions) to fire him, but he has reused himself from the investigation. Then, he could ask Rosenstein to fire him, but that's who hired him. Then he could ask Sessions to fire Rosenstein, and on and on and on. It's not that cut-and-dried.
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Mueller: His public service dates back to the 1970s when he served as a platoon leader in the Vietnam War. Mueller, who was wounded in combat, earned several decorations, including a Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. “I have been very lucky,” Mueller told the UVA Lawyer in 2002. “I always felt I should spend some time paying it back.”
I know! I know! How about by putting a chickenhawk draft dodger in prison!! woohoooooo!!
I know! I know! How about by putting a chickenhawk draft dodger in prison!! woohoooooo!!
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Mueller finds nothing: Trump claims unfair persecution for all his egregious misdeeds, and wins re-election in 2020. Mueller finds impropriety: Trump quits before Impeachment, Pence becomes POTUS, GOP claims to have "done the right thing", and sweeps the midterms. Rock, meet hard place.
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With Vice Chancellor DImmesdale Pence in the wings:
Mueller 12 years with the FBI.
Worked with Comey.
Has a band of committed agents ready to shred Comrade Donald.
Rosenstein can expect Special Section Praetorian Guard Schiller at his door with a special note from Trump soon.
Mueller 12 years with the FBI.
Worked with Comey.
Has a band of committed agents ready to shred Comrade Donald.
Rosenstein can expect Special Section Praetorian Guard Schiller at his door with a special note from Trump soon.
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What Mueller will find (a mere prediction, but one based on what we know of Trump's managemental style, ignorance and egomania):
Trump sent Flynn to tell the Russians not to worry about sanctions; and then, when he realized that the conversations between Flynn and the Russians had been recorded, tried to protect Flynn (and himself) by pressuring Comey to lay off Flynn.
Trump sent Flynn to tell the Russians not to worry about sanctions; and then, when he realized that the conversations between Flynn and the Russians had been recorded, tried to protect Flynn (and himself) by pressuring Comey to lay off Flynn.
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We needed a few good men to save the republic and it appears that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein stepped up to the plate and brought along former F.B.I. director Robert Mueller on deck.
Speaking of a few good men, here’s how an initial conversation between President Trump and special counsel Mueller is likely to go with White House Counsel McGahn present:
Mueller: President Trump, did you order Comey to drop the Flynn investigation?
McGahn: You don't have to answer that question!
Trump: I'll answer the question. You want answers?
Mueller: I think I'm entitled!
Trump: You want answers?
Mueller: I want the truth!
Trump: You can't handle the truth!
This is where my imagination veers from the script of “A Few Good Men” and Mueller goes on to warn Trump that his lying days are over because there is a new sheriff in town.
We, as a nation, so badly needed a man of character and integrity, who commands bipartisan respect, to undertake the arduous responsibility of “revealing the truth about suspicions that reach into the highest levels of the Trump campaign and White House.” Notwithstanding the gyrations of a selfish stock market, this is the first time since Trump was sworn in that a majority of Americans are breathing a sigh of relief. In Mueller we trust!
Speaking of a few good men, here’s how an initial conversation between President Trump and special counsel Mueller is likely to go with White House Counsel McGahn present:
Mueller: President Trump, did you order Comey to drop the Flynn investigation?
McGahn: You don't have to answer that question!
Trump: I'll answer the question. You want answers?
Mueller: I think I'm entitled!
Trump: You want answers?
Mueller: I want the truth!
Trump: You can't handle the truth!
This is where my imagination veers from the script of “A Few Good Men” and Mueller goes on to warn Trump that his lying days are over because there is a new sheriff in town.
We, as a nation, so badly needed a man of character and integrity, who commands bipartisan respect, to undertake the arduous responsibility of “revealing the truth about suspicions that reach into the highest levels of the Trump campaign and White House.” Notwithstanding the gyrations of a selfish stock market, this is the first time since Trump was sworn in that a majority of Americans are breathing a sigh of relief. In Mueller we trust!
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I agree with the New York Times Editorial Board that "Mr. Rosenstein...has done the nation a service in choosing Mr. Mueller...", as special counsel. Now, "...the burden on Congress to conduct its own, bipartisan inquiry..." has been raised to another level. The standard for the seriousness and accuracy of their investigations has been dramatically elevated. Congressional investigations must now match the quality of the FBI benchmark.
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Having stood up to President Trump at this point, it seems pretty certain that Mr. Rosenstein will maintain his independence in the future. Indeed, he might be the first person to be drawn into Trump's circles and survived with reputation recovered, if not quite intact. He engaged his thrusters and manage to pull away from the black hole.
The Donald must be fuming. How long before the next Trumpian Twitter tantrum?
The Donald must be fuming. How long before the next Trumpian Twitter tantrum?
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We can expect an Trumpian Twitter tantrum very soon, but that would not be wise. But then again, who said you need to be wise to become President?
Mr. Rosenstein needs a high level of thrust to pull away from the micro black hole that's inside Trump where his heart should be.
Trump is considering firing Robert S. Mueller III and Jared Kushner is probably pushing for it. He could do it, but that would get him removed before he can have lunch.
Mr. Rosenstein needs a high level of thrust to pull away from the micro black hole that's inside Trump where his heart should be.
Trump is considering firing Robert S. Mueller III and Jared Kushner is probably pushing for it. He could do it, but that would get him removed before he can have lunch.
I would not count on that.
I'm reading many negative comments from other people who say the appointment of Mr Mueller won't do any good. But at least it's something. We cannot allow the crowd in the White House to continue on the same path. Right now, they have us perilously close to falling into a dictatorship.
Perhaps this very serious action will cause Mr Trump to wake up and start behaving like a grownup and to realize he is supposed to be leading the free world! This is not a TV show.
Perhaps this very serious action will cause Mr Trump to wake up and start behaving like a grownup and to realize he is supposed to be leading the free world! This is not a TV show.
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Perhaps ... but how many 70-year-old men change their stripes, especially if je believes that this is what made them successful? I suspect Trump's personality and character are permanent, even if his positions aren't.
Mr. Pence has been -so far as we know - a full partner in the Trump-Pence campaign and administration. Even with his inside knowledge he has remained a loyal champion of the administration's actions. I cannot think of an occasion on which he has expressed any concern about administration and where it is heading. He may bear less responsibility than Mr Trump for certain specific actions, but it seems only prudent to start from the assumption that he is a full and complicit partner in the campaign and administration.
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Mr. Pence is waiting in the shadows, until he is inaugurated as the 46th President -- very soon.
NYT Editorial Board and Others,
First be very careful what you wish for! Of all those stories of old which deal with wishes granted, very few detail happy outcomes from those granted wishes. Democrats and Liberals have been screaming for a revolt in the Electoral Collage, impeachment and a Special Prosecutor mostly all at the same time. Now at long last the have what they say they wanted.
But wait, what they want is Trump gone, not investigated and exonerated. Which based on the current evidence is the current likely outcome. It is highly likely Director Mueller will also look into and deal harshly with those who placed themselves above the law and leaked now because of "patriotic duty", but not over the last eight years.
That list could include several prominent D.C. names, plus Mueller could even revisit HRC's server and WJC's Phoenix meeting with A.G. Linch. All of these issues fall under that and "other" category.
Be very carful when you make a wish out loud! As it might be granted!
First be very careful what you wish for! Of all those stories of old which deal with wishes granted, very few detail happy outcomes from those granted wishes. Democrats and Liberals have been screaming for a revolt in the Electoral Collage, impeachment and a Special Prosecutor mostly all at the same time. Now at long last the have what they say they wanted.
But wait, what they want is Trump gone, not investigated and exonerated. Which based on the current evidence is the current likely outcome. It is highly likely Director Mueller will also look into and deal harshly with those who placed themselves above the law and leaked now because of "patriotic duty", but not over the last eight years.
That list could include several prominent D.C. names, plus Mueller could even revisit HRC's server and WJC's Phoenix meeting with A.G. Linch. All of these issues fall under that and "other" category.
Be very carful when you make a wish out loud! As it might be granted!
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"But wait, what they want is Trump gone, not investigated and exonerated. Which based on the current evidence is the current likely outcome"
How do you figure? It was mounting evidence, including the president's own words, that led to the appointment of a special counsel. Wishing something weren't the case doesn't do any good.
How do you figure? It was mounting evidence, including the president's own words, that led to the appointment of a special counsel. Wishing something weren't the case doesn't do any good.
Your argument makes no sense unless everything is only a political game. I want the investigation to show how deeply the suggestive evidence of collusion goes. If doesn't go deep and it's only what we see on the surface, that's what it is and the best of luck to Trump and his policies as we hash forward.
There is no doubt that Trump is a reckless person without regard for institutional processes which serve to limit power. He is reckless and indecent in his accusations of others without any sense of contrition when shown wrong. If he can weather this storm of honest investigation into collusion, good for him. It's still bad for the nation but at least he knows he can't simply do and say what he wishes for his own personal gratification and undemocratic need for power. The special counsel represents those values independent of political results. That's the important point.
There is no doubt that Trump is a reckless person without regard for institutional processes which serve to limit power. He is reckless and indecent in his accusations of others without any sense of contrition when shown wrong. If he can weather this storm of honest investigation into collusion, good for him. It's still bad for the nation but at least he knows he can't simply do and say what he wishes for his own personal gratification and undemocratic need for power. The special counsel represents those values independent of political results. That's the important point.
It seems the wind has changed. The leaks, reports, disclosures, and developments are coming on fast. Perhaps the governmental bureaucracy is setting up to erase this terrible mistake of a presidency. There is frankly no defense for Trump. He is guilty of obstruction and stupidity. And then there are the Russians. He has reached the point of being a liability not a means to an end for the GOP.
Trump also seems a bit more demented and reactive lately. It was reported that Nixon took leave of his senses before resigning. Talking to paintings and such. Trump cannot be weathering this threat well, mentally. The business of rational government is likely to grind to a halt. Trump was also obviously manipulated by Putin last week. A dupe. But the tragic joke was on us.
The appointment of special counsel is the beginning of the end. Trump won't be impeached though. He'll resign. He has no stomach for a fight unless the game is rigged.
Trump also seems a bit more demented and reactive lately. It was reported that Nixon took leave of his senses before resigning. Talking to paintings and such. Trump cannot be weathering this threat well, mentally. The business of rational government is likely to grind to a halt. Trump was also obviously manipulated by Putin last week. A dupe. But the tragic joke was on us.
The appointment of special counsel is the beginning of the end. Trump won't be impeached though. He'll resign. He has no stomach for a fight unless the game is rigged.
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Can't help but wonder what and where this will lead to. Can only hope this whole debacle shakes the dust out of the great majority's eyes to see the power in numbers and the crying need to use it well.
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Trump has tried to hide his skeletons in the closet, but I am curious what he has to hide. If he have nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear.
Even after Trump is proven innocent in the RussiaGate, what's next?
117 days of continues scandals, revelations and horrendous tweets. He cannot keep going on for the next 1344 days.
Even after Trump is proven innocent in the RussiaGate, what's next?
117 days of continues scandals, revelations and horrendous tweets. He cannot keep going on for the next 1344 days.
We should not lose sight of the big picture: Just four months into Donald Trump's presidency, the Attorney General's office has appointed a special counsel to investigate possible undue influence that Russia has over him and his surrogates. The special counsel also presumably will investigate Trump's attempts to stifle an FBI investigation into his his former national security adviser's improper ties to Russia. No president has ever faced a criminal investigation so early in his tenure. The situation is even more stunning given the Herculean efforts that the Republican-controlled Congress has undertaken to shield Trump from serious scrutiny. Normally, a new president would still be in his honeymoon period. But most of the nation wants a divorce.
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Not a divorce, DbB, but an annulment.
Most of the nation did not want to get married in the first place I believe ...
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Finally a person with the spine, experience, courage, independence and intelligence to see this investigation through to a just and proper conclusion.
Thank you, Rod Rosenstein, and to Robert Mueller.
Thank you, Rod Rosenstein, and to Robert Mueller.
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Thank you Mr. Rosenstein. This may be the first night's rest many of us will have since the second Trump won the Republican nomination. We are so relieved that this investigation will be taken seriously.
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Wow, I haven't heard such universal, glowing accolades about someone since ... Jim Comey
I'm already suspicious of all the cultist cheer-leading here. It's already out that he was literally picked from the managing ranks of Paul Manafort's law firm. And Ivanka Trump's law firm.
Ivanka Trump's lawyer's boss SHOULD NOT be leading this investigation.
Same with Paul Manafort.
I'm sure that Mueller is a great guy, but there are thousands of great guys who aren't one or two degrees of separation from the people being investigated.
I'm already suspicious of all the cultist cheer-leading here. It's already out that he was literally picked from the managing ranks of Paul Manafort's law firm. And Ivanka Trump's law firm.
Ivanka Trump's lawyer's boss SHOULD NOT be leading this investigation.
Same with Paul Manafort.
I'm sure that Mueller is a great guy, but there are thousands of great guys who aren't one or two degrees of separation from the people being investigated.
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Let me try to understand how this works. Trump appointed Sessions who hired Rosenstein who appointed Mueller. That may be special but it isn't independent. I expect a polished whitewash.
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I think we have to be careful here. I have not given up on the idea that there ARE public servants with integrity and great personal character, and I think that Mueller is one of those. To "expect a polished whitewash" is to dismiss Mueller out of hand. That's what Trumpanzees do. I don't think we should sink to that level. People like Mueller (and Yates) exist, and we are lucky to have them.
Allow me to flesh this out with a little nuance: There's nothing in Mueller's resume that suggests a potential whitewash, polished or otherwise. So even though he's an administration appointee, he may still act independently. Archibald Cox's independence is what got him fired by Nixon, which didn't work out well for the President, and the more likely scenario is that Trump will ultimately have Mueller fired, as he did Comey. The fallout for that would be worse, because Trump's White House is not nearly as skilled at damage control as Nixon's (and even four months in, there's sufficient evidence for that conclusion). I expect Mueller to be just as aggressive in investigating Trump as Starr did Clinton, without Starr's partisanship.
Except that Mueller is an honorable man. If he is fired, things could get even worse for Trump. Everyone of a certain age remembers the integrity of Archibald Cox and Elliot Richardson. No one remembers the person who actually fired Cox.
The role of the media must be acknowledged here, the investigation of, and resultant pressure on, the parties involved has resulted in the bolstering of our democratic institutions. Bravo.
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It's not over yet.
I actually felt tears sting tonight when I heard of Mueller's appointment. For months I've wondered if our Republic could survive under Trump and his grasping minions. Under the guidance of patriots such as Robert Mueller, I believe it will.
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When Jeff Sessions recused himself from any investigation about Russia, he did so, by his own admission, because his staff told him he should. The impropriety of using his power to oversee improprieties about Russia, when he had lied about his own contacts with Russians, was lost on him.
When Trump fired Comey last week, he didn't bother constructing a narrative about why something so seismic happened. The dubious act of terminating the head of the intelligence apparatus looking into the dubious acts of Trump and his associates, was lost on him.
The Trump White House is without morals or credibility. The Trump administration knows power as a tool to abuse. It is time for Mueller to disabuse them of any idea that they are above the law.
When Trump fired Comey last week, he didn't bother constructing a narrative about why something so seismic happened. The dubious act of terminating the head of the intelligence apparatus looking into the dubious acts of Trump and his associates, was lost on him.
The Trump White House is without morals or credibility. The Trump administration knows power as a tool to abuse. It is time for Mueller to disabuse them of any idea that they are above the law.
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Trump's behavior doesn't pass the stink test. But, he deserves his day in court. Let's have the investigation and find the bottom-line truth, either there was Russian influence or there wasn't.
Hold on a minute. This is ALREADY very sketchy.
Tucked way neatly in paragraph 9 of a WaPo piece about how Mueller is such a straight shooter ( just like Comey, it says ), is this little nugget of information:
Until his surprise appointment Wednesday, Mueller served as a partner at WilmerHale, a firm that represents former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Trump’s daughter Ivanka and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law.
Are you kidding us ? They picked Manafort's investigator from the managing ranks of his law firm ? And this guy's investigation from the ranks of his kids' law firm ?
No wonder they tucked it away in paragraph 9.
Tucked way neatly in paragraph 9 of a WaPo piece about how Mueller is such a straight shooter ( just like Comey, it says ), is this little nugget of information:
Until his surprise appointment Wednesday, Mueller served as a partner at WilmerHale, a firm that represents former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Trump’s daughter Ivanka and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law.
Are you kidding us ? They picked Manafort's investigator from the managing ranks of his law firm ? And this guy's investigation from the ranks of his kids' law firm ?
No wonder they tucked it away in paragraph 9.
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As a follow-up, I've watched at least 8 hours of network coverage since this appointment was made, and not a single anchor, host, pundit, or analyst is bringing up his connection to Manafort's lawyers.
Concealing that he was overseeing Kushner, Trump, and Manafort's legal team as recently as this weekend is unacceptable, no matter who he is.
Concealing that he was overseeing Kushner, Trump, and Manafort's legal team as recently as this weekend is unacceptable, no matter who he is.
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I'm with you, the NYT had noted it last night as well..... anyone choose to answer what this means?
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Don't get your knickers in a twist over nothing. Wilmer Hale is a huge firm. Don't assume that Mueller did any legal work involving Manafort, Ivanka or Kushner. If Mueller had done any legal work for any of these people, who are potential witnesses and/or targets, he wouldn't have taken the job. The fact that a lawyer somewhere in this huge firm did or does work for these people has to be disclosed as a matter of form. Otherwise, someone down the road would have discovered the representation and started screaming collusion, etc.
Please make note that it was Barack Obama who hired, the Republican, Comey for a ten year appointment as the head of the FBI. He would outlast his Democratic Administration and impact the nation long after his term. That, my friends, is what country over party looks like. You choose the right person for the job, not the person who hates the job's mission the most. But Republicans will tell you that the previous president was partisan and divisive. I thought what the President was doing, by taking the high road, was warranted, smart and better for the country. The Republicans smeared him regardless. I thought it was smart, strategically, then. I've, since learned, I was wrong. If I could fantasize about knowing the future in 2008, I would tell President Obama to "lock up the silver, the Visigoths are coming.". I've been waiting to exhale for a long time now. Hopefully, this disturbs Trump's breathing for a while.
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An inspired choice for special counsel. But this is a sad day for the country not just because it ensnares the highest office in the land in a potential criminal prosecution. What does it tell of the American electorate that they elected a bonafide con as President? If character is destiny, an utter lack of it among the electorate lead to Trump's election. That sad reality would never go away whatever happens to Mr Trump.
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The sad day happened half a year ago when the electorate voted for Mr. Trump (one may say the public really didn't). This is a good day when the country's trying to live up to its democratic reputation.
Everything that has happened during the campaign and since then could have been easily predicted given Trump's history of lies and manipulation, braggadocio and chicanery. Bankruptcies that left him enriched, litigation that ruined small businesses after he refused to pay for their goods and services, self-promotion to the extreme of assuming another personality on call in radio, disgusting behavior towards women, and so much more - this was all known and yet Trump was elected and until now has maintained a core of voters who approve of him. He reminds me of those television evangelists who promise to make you rich if you only send them money monthly. This investigation may finally prove to his followers that the emperor is naked.
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Teapot Dome- Warren Harding - Republican
HUAC Hollywood Blacklist- Rep J. Parnell Thomas - Republican
Tydings Committee- Senator Joseph McCarthy - Republican
Army–McCarthy hearings- Senator Joseph McCarthy - Republican
Watergate- Richard Nixon - Republican
Iran-Contra - Ronald Reagan - Republican
Trumpgate- Donald Trump - Republican
Do you notice a pattern? No, I am not a Democrat.
HUAC Hollywood Blacklist- Rep J. Parnell Thomas - Republican
Tydings Committee- Senator Joseph McCarthy - Republican
Army–McCarthy hearings- Senator Joseph McCarthy - Republican
Watergate- Richard Nixon - Republican
Iran-Contra - Ronald Reagan - Republican
Trumpgate- Donald Trump - Republican
Do you notice a pattern? No, I am not a Democrat.
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A "strong, independent" investigation? No wonder Republicans are uneasy. Let's hope it helps derail their so-called agenda of country club tax cuts and corporate giveaways.
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This has become a very sad situation for America that is ripping the social fabric and pitting man against fellow man. I'm disappointed that normal political discourse is now a criminal investigation. I have always been reviled at the power the F.B.I. has and uses against our political leaders. Politics is rough but better than social unrest. This investigation will further inflame the tenuous peace that exists here.
The fact remains that Trump ripped into his rivals and barbarically scorned and endangered a woman, Hillary Clinton, during the campaign while paying public tribute to friendship with Russia and especially admiring the strongman, Putin. It just doesn't look right and provides reason to investigate. He treats Russia better than America.
And what about how early the Russians visited the White House? Was that a victory lap? And to exclude the American Press and then threaten to jail Journalists? It just wreaks of impropriety to be investigated.
The old saying is; "What goes around, comes around".
This pending criminal investigation is warranted and justified. However, I'm still deeply troubled by the outsize power of the F.B.I. over our political leaders.
The fact remains that Trump ripped into his rivals and barbarically scorned and endangered a woman, Hillary Clinton, during the campaign while paying public tribute to friendship with Russia and especially admiring the strongman, Putin. It just doesn't look right and provides reason to investigate. He treats Russia better than America.
And what about how early the Russians visited the White House? Was that a victory lap? And to exclude the American Press and then threaten to jail Journalists? It just wreaks of impropriety to be investigated.
The old saying is; "What goes around, comes around".
This pending criminal investigation is warranted and justified. However, I'm still deeply troubled by the outsize power of the F.B.I. over our political leaders.
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The appointment of the special prosecutor has definitely dialed down my anxiety. Perhaps, after 191 nights, this will be the night that I am able to get a solid 7 hours i of sleep.
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Wasn't this the guy in charge of the FBI when it found that Scooter Libby acted alone to expose Valerie Plame? Why should this be reassuring?
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No, he's the one who got to the bottom of the Plame exposure and exposed Libby.
Over thousands of years of living, we have always learned that the truth will out. It does take time, generations sometimes, but the truth always reveals itself as it alone is consistent with the way of things.
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The appointment of Robert Mueller as the special counsel by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to take the investigation into Trump-Russia ties to logical end though not a substitute for an independent Congressional commission, yet a step in right direction, taken by the Deputy AG as a face saving move after having earlier succumbed to Trump by writing a desired memo under pressure, that cost James Comey his FBI job. Thus, the delayed appointment of special counsel to the FBI investigation and its reluctant acceptance by Trump still leaves many doubts as to how things would emerge in future. But, post-comey ouster the way political pressure is building on the issue pushing Trump to the wall, it's certain that Justice will prevail in the end.
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Trump is the most corrupt President that we have had in modern times, save Nixon. Expanded powers were granted by the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein.
But, the President can still fire him, since a prior statute which placed that power with the Courts, expired and was not renewed by Congress. However, should that occur, it would provide a viable basis for impeachment.
But, the President can still fire him, since a prior statute which placed that power with the Courts, expired and was not renewed by Congress. However, should that occur, it would provide a viable basis for impeachment.
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He makes Nixon look like Abe Lincoln.
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Trump is far more corrupt than Nixon, and unlike Nixon, has to date done not one thing other than moves that will benefit his bottom line or hurt others or both. Nixon worked at governing. Trump could not be bothered.
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I feel a tremendous sense of relief that Mr. Rosenstein took action based on mr. trump's extremely bizarre sets of behavior on display in just two weeks.
This feels like Watergate squared--crisis on steroids, with nobody stepping up to the plate to keep the sky from falling.
Mr, Mueller is the perfect choice for this appointment. Mr. Rosenstein's move and appointment of Comeys predecessor is rich in irony. By attacking Comey, Trump inherits far worse. How he'll process all the stories bound to be published--sure to be bombshells--is anyone's guess.
I have long thought President Obamas roasting of Trump at the correspondents dinner when Trump was in full birther mode was the prime driver of his presidential ambitions. From all accounts Trump cannot stand ridicule and disrespect.
Sure, The man who did nothing but disrespect this country is seeing how it feels when the tables are turned. He has nowhere to hide now that Mueller is overseeing the investigation.
Thank God, Mr. Rosenstein has stood up for truth and the rule of law. thank God he didn't let his anger at Trump over that forced memo cause him to lose sight of what's important.
This feels like Watergate squared--crisis on steroids, with nobody stepping up to the plate to keep the sky from falling.
Mr, Mueller is the perfect choice for this appointment. Mr. Rosenstein's move and appointment of Comeys predecessor is rich in irony. By attacking Comey, Trump inherits far worse. How he'll process all the stories bound to be published--sure to be bombshells--is anyone's guess.
I have long thought President Obamas roasting of Trump at the correspondents dinner when Trump was in full birther mode was the prime driver of his presidential ambitions. From all accounts Trump cannot stand ridicule and disrespect.
Sure, The man who did nothing but disrespect this country is seeing how it feels when the tables are turned. He has nowhere to hide now that Mueller is overseeing the investigation.
Thank God, Mr. Rosenstein has stood up for truth and the rule of law. thank God he didn't let his anger at Trump over that forced memo cause him to lose sight of what's important.
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Mueller will hopefully end all the talk about the Russians stealing the election for Trump. The information the NYTs has presented to the public seems to point toward some sort of financial collusion between Trump and Russian business people. The NYTs has taken a lead role as chief accuser of Trump. They have taken a stridently belligerent view of Russia. Trump is obviously corrupt and dishonest but people knew that before he was elected by the electoral college without a popular vote victory. He is obviously incapable of doing the job of the presidency.
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Your comment encapsulates the GOP mindset perfectly.
"Trump is obviously corrupt and dishonest but ... "
Uhh ... no. Corruption is a disqualifier, it's also highly illegal. Condoning criminal behavior in your President is complicity. Who's your next candidate ? Marion Barry ?
Turning a blind eye to a Commander in Chief that you KNOW is CORRUPT ?
Really ?
"Trump is obviously corrupt and dishonest but ... "
Uhh ... no. Corruption is a disqualifier, it's also highly illegal. Condoning criminal behavior in your President is complicity. Who's your next candidate ? Marion Barry ?
Turning a blind eye to a Commander in Chief that you KNOW is CORRUPT ?
Really ?
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My guess is that the hack came from somewhere within the GOP, and that they're using Russia as a smokescreen.
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This probably is a tactical error by Trump’s Justice Dept. Of course, if he had handled the matter from the beginning as a rational adult, the issue probably would have died a deserved death early, despite the hopes Democrats place on it as leverage to destroy a presidency they despise. But it remains all smoke and ideologically interested innuendo.
It’s a tactical error because special prosecutors are creatures of a flawed empowerment and should be avoided for the mischief they cause. Ken Starr took three geological ages to complete his investigations into Bill Clinton’s Fruit-of-the-Looms, and eventually Hillary’s as well. They ranged immensely beyond his original mandate and, in the end, what they delivered was not actionable – and many Americans believe they had little if any real value. In the end they were a failed fishing expedition. But vesting such unlimited power of inquiry in an unelected legal functionary should be avoided, because the temptation to abuse such power is both significant and predictable.
Absent a smoking gun, Mueller won’t find conspiracy or actionable crime. But he could be looking at every aspect of Trump’s life and the lives of his closest associates for years, finding nothing except the fact that Trump is a loudmouthed narcissist and not overly sophisticated. These things we already knew before Mueller draws his first government check. And knowing these things, Trump still won.
It’s a tactical error because special prosecutors are creatures of a flawed empowerment and should be avoided for the mischief they cause. Ken Starr took three geological ages to complete his investigations into Bill Clinton’s Fruit-of-the-Looms, and eventually Hillary’s as well. They ranged immensely beyond his original mandate and, in the end, what they delivered was not actionable – and many Americans believe they had little if any real value. In the end they were a failed fishing expedition. But vesting such unlimited power of inquiry in an unelected legal functionary should be avoided, because the temptation to abuse such power is both significant and predictable.
Absent a smoking gun, Mueller won’t find conspiracy or actionable crime. But he could be looking at every aspect of Trump’s life and the lives of his closest associates for years, finding nothing except the fact that Trump is a loudmouthed narcissist and not overly sophisticated. These things we already knew before Mueller draws his first government check. And knowing these things, Trump still won.
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Indeed, Socrates. Richard's obsession that there can be nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with Trump, except, you know, some immaturity, is beyond baffling.
Why the insistence that there can be nothing there, Richard? You admit Trump is 'a loudmouthed narcissist and not overly sophisticated' -- the most negative things you've been willing to concede.
But you continue to ignore the man's decades-long record of cheating people, of blatant racism, of misogyny (quite likely with serial sexual assault), of pathological lying. Yet to you, it is just a partisan witch hunt. I don't recall your indignation when your party swore on his first day of office to destroy Obama's Presidency solely because he'd had the temerity to get elected.
This is not that. Trump's history -- again, going back DECADES -- is of a man whose wilful ignorance and instinctual dishonesty is legion.
Are you so desperate for a tax cut for billionaires that you are willing to let this man wreck the government? I mean, sure, calamity is change, but seriously, do you despise the nation so much that you'd rather see the government burn to the ground, just so Obama's legacy of years of economic growth, an unemployment rate cut in half, a deficit cut in half, tens of millions having health care after a century of failed efforts, a rescued auto industry, a rescued Wall Street -- thought you'd at least like that -- a national debt growth rate at it lowest since the 50s, etc. crushed?
Disgusting.
Sad!
Why the insistence that there can be nothing there, Richard? You admit Trump is 'a loudmouthed narcissist and not overly sophisticated' -- the most negative things you've been willing to concede.
But you continue to ignore the man's decades-long record of cheating people, of blatant racism, of misogyny (quite likely with serial sexual assault), of pathological lying. Yet to you, it is just a partisan witch hunt. I don't recall your indignation when your party swore on his first day of office to destroy Obama's Presidency solely because he'd had the temerity to get elected.
This is not that. Trump's history -- again, going back DECADES -- is of a man whose wilful ignorance and instinctual dishonesty is legion.
Are you so desperate for a tax cut for billionaires that you are willing to let this man wreck the government? I mean, sure, calamity is change, but seriously, do you despise the nation so much that you'd rather see the government burn to the ground, just so Obama's legacy of years of economic growth, an unemployment rate cut in half, a deficit cut in half, tens of millions having health care after a century of failed efforts, a rescued auto industry, a rescued Wall Street -- thought you'd at least like that -- a national debt growth rate at it lowest since the 50s, etc. crushed?
Disgusting.
Sad!
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what you said!
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What sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Endless scrutiny of Trump by a truly independent investigator is more than he deserves, and more than Hillary got by a long shot, what with Darrell Issa, etc.! And nothing was found there either. But it certainly chipped away at her credibility. Or don't you think so???
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This is an excellent move. However, there is a fly in the ointment. If Mr. Mueller uncovers unlawful acts, how many people on the right will reject his findings as being fake news? How many Republican legislators will accept and act upon any findings that go against Trump? How many Trump supporters will believe him?
If we are to heal and move on from the never ending crisis that is Trump, whatever Mr. Mueller uncovers must be accepted by all, or this entire affair will be another dodge. He is going to need a little help.
If we are to heal and move on from the never ending crisis that is Trump, whatever Mr. Mueller uncovers must be accepted by all, or this entire affair will be another dodge. He is going to need a little help.
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how many people on the right will reject his findings as being fake news?
None. Because there's no such thing as fake handcuffs.
None. Because there's no such thing as fake handcuffs.
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Mr. Rozenblit - I agree with your prediction about how the Republican hypocrites and sycophants in Congress will react, and I wouldn't put it past them to stonewall against impeachment even if Mr. Mueller finds that charges against Trump are warranted. That's why your call is right on the mark, and here's the help that I think is needed:
1. The Congressional committees currently investigating Trump's many misdeeds should continue their work and report regularly on their findings. The damage that Trump can do to the country and the world while Mr. Mueller's investigation proceeds (slowly, albeit thoroughly, and behind closed doors) is too great for the rest of us to think that this appointment is all that was needed to resolve the disaster.
2. The electorate should flush the cravenness out of Congress in 2018. That is the most important issue in the coming midterm election: ensuring that McConnell and Ryan and their ilk can't, in the name of crass party advantage, blockade justice and leave a tumor in our country.
1. The Congressional committees currently investigating Trump's many misdeeds should continue their work and report regularly on their findings. The damage that Trump can do to the country and the world while Mr. Mueller's investigation proceeds (slowly, albeit thoroughly, and behind closed doors) is too great for the rest of us to think that this appointment is all that was needed to resolve the disaster.
2. The electorate should flush the cravenness out of Congress in 2018. That is the most important issue in the coming midterm election: ensuring that McConnell and Ryan and their ilk can't, in the name of crass party advantage, blockade justice and leave a tumor in our country.
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The Republicans are keeping this in the Republican house. If the Republican finds fault with another Republican, that seems like a strong finding even if some never say die types can't give up the ghost.
I hope that this is the beginning of the end of a terrible chapter in our history. Surely by now most Americans can see that Trump is woefully inadequate to the job and lurches from one mess to the next. Let's have an impartial professional investigation and perhaps then our timid Congressional leadership will step up to the plate and do their duty.
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Most Americans?
Yes, certainly.
The minority that voted for him, but whose geography was sufficient to put this corrupt child in office?
Sadly, no.
To them any criticism of Trump is 'fake'. Obama would have been shipped to Guantanamo if his actions had even hinted at what is already known about Trump's actions.
Oh well. Somewhere, someone is probably ranting that Nixon was framed.
Yes, certainly.
The minority that voted for him, but whose geography was sufficient to put this corrupt child in office?
Sadly, no.
To them any criticism of Trump is 'fake'. Obama would have been shipped to Guantanamo if his actions had even hinted at what is already known about Trump's actions.
Oh well. Somewhere, someone is probably ranting that Nixon was framed.
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After 14 months of investigations & countless leaks, no proof of collusion has been shown, or even stated, to exist. Conjecture & innuendo don't qualify as a legitimate justification for this which hunt. Interesting how it's all meant to cover the fact the investigation is about Wikileaks releasing proof of REAL wrongdoing by Democrats...
Mueller is an inspired choice. He will do well in this position, and will follow the facts where they lead him.
And, thankfully, this is the beginning of the end of the nightmare of Trump.
And, thankfully, this is the beginning of the end of the nightmare of Trump.
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Or he'll go after the leakers and let this guy and his law firm's client Manafort walk.
You don't know what he'll do. I recall how everyone in the press cheered when Obama chose Comey too.
You don't know what he'll do. I recall how everyone in the press cheered when Obama chose Comey too.
One can only hope.
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Don't you think that a man who spent 12 years leading the FBI would have a better sense of prioritization than that? Clearly, he will focus on the Russian interference with the elections first, since that hits at the most fundamental right Americans have - voting. Then he'll focus on any aspects of collusion between Trump and his campaign and the Russians. Those will occupy his attention fully. Leaks are not a priority, since that's whistle blowing, and is protected under the law. All the people talking about leaks should look to the Leaker-In-Chief, who gave real and actual code word intelligence to the country's main adversary.
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Well done, Rod Rosenstein. This is very good news for America and the integrity of our democratic institutions.
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Not sure those powerful people are counting on good opinions. Hopefully the process will unfold properly and end properly.
"Well done, Rod Rosenstein." Really? If Rosenstein had not been willing to be Trumps lying lap dog we might have avoided this stupidity.
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Rod Rosenstein's so-called "memo" just doesn't make sense. It's not the kind of document a professional of his caliber would write. Whether he was coerced or simply signed it because he saw that someone like Mueller would be respected by both sides -- doing so allowed him to keep his watchdog role. As Sessions has shown repeatedly that he's an old-style Southern by-the-book racist and neither his word nor his actions are trustworthy--certainly the Justice Department needs Rosenstein in his role.
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Every evidence, if you draw a 4th grade level chart representing date and event; points to collusion and selling of America for personal gain.
Follow the Money Mr Mueller; and pl put whole Trump brand out of business from cheating others for personal benefit.
This must also include Pence and GOP heads, who are complicit and I just heard that this was known to Mr Ryan last summer and he kept this in GOP family, which he think of highly over American family.
Follow the Money Mr Mueller; and pl put whole Trump brand out of business from cheating others for personal benefit.
This must also include Pence and GOP heads, who are complicit and I just heard that this was known to Mr Ryan last summer and he kept this in GOP family, which he think of highly over American family.
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