Anticipating the Afterlife

Apr 19, 2017 · 75 comments
Dennis (NYC)
What's Will Shortz email?
Deb Amlen (Wordplay, the Road Tour)
Hi Dennis,

If you'd like to write to Will, please send it through the Feedback Form on the main puzzle page. Any comments directed to him will for forwarded to him.
Leapfinger (Durham, NC)
Couldn't help but notice this puzzle was a set-up for a twofer:

Have you noticed the lunar Sea of TRANQuility lately? The OLD GREY MARE ain't what she used to be.

RETAIN Shrdlu
Johanna (Ohio)
Crazy day. Just had to pop in to thank Jeffrey Wechsler for this wonderful, funny-bone-tickling puzzle! Right at this moment I feel the need for a lot of SAKE to wash down my dinner topped with MOLE and, believe me, I won't be wearing LAME ... but I'll probably finish up with some of those ROSES.

Loved it!
Robert (Vancouver, Canada)
and
We ( and *) have LANDed AT Toronto Airport. I want to thank Viv, deadline,suejean and Leapy for their good birthday wishes . Customs/immigration when looking at my passport also noted it kindly.
* thanks also. Flight to homebase delayed ,unfortunately.The "silent partner" is not so silent....
Ta ta.
hepcat8 (jive5)
As usual, I'm late to the party; so most of my comments on this very entertaining puzzle have been stated better by others. One of the things that I was surprised to learn, however, (from Deb's blog) is that Japanese wine is pronounced "Sah'-kay." From the times I spent in liquid refreshment emporia in the various Japanese ports I visited while a minion of my rich Uncle, my recollection was that they pronounced it "Sah'-kee." Perhaps the amount I drank influenced my memory of how it was pronounced.
Steve Fogel (New York)
Aren't Quaaludes technically muscle relaxants and not tranquilizers?
Leapfinger (Durham, NC)
Quaaludes (I think it's methaqualone generically) are a sedative and hypnotic. They are (by some practitioners) prescribed to relax muscles, as is Valium, but that effect is secondary to the general physiologic relaxation of tension in the erm, prescribee. The true primary 'muscle relaxers' are medications like Parafon Forte, Flexeril and Baclofen
Deadline (New York City)
I was wearing my lazy brain when I started the puzzle, so had a lot of maybes and probablies across the top that I held in my brain but didn't enter in the puzzle. First gimme was RECTO, which didn't help much in going back up north.

Continued in the same vein down through the puzzle until I roused myself to start looking at how the maybes and probablies affected their crossing entries. The breakthrough, oddly, came with the probably TVA making me think of THE NATURAL! I know that's kind of a stretch, but it's what got my brain up on its feet and on to serious solving.

At first I thought WHITE RICE was going to be a themer because of the ?, but I was in the neighborhood so I solved SW and got the theme at RUN FOR THE ROSES.

I never get that blasted KIA/Soul thing and had EMBUE before IMBUE.

Most of the pizzerias around here seem to start with Ray's (or Ray's Original, or Original Ray's) rather than MAMMA.

I'm the one who never read "A Clockwork Orange," so didn't know ALEX (sorry, Martin).

I found this a jolly fun puzzle. Lots of things that made me think--TEE, WHITE RICE, WHACK A MOLE, SIZE, others--but nary a stinker.

Thanks to all concerned. Looking forward to the weekend.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
I haven't read Clockwork Orange, either, so we're a pair!
Gary Katch (Montreal)
"Soul maker" must be a typo! (I used the NYTimes crossword app on iOS).

Surely a Seoul maker (of cars) is Kia Motors. If K.I.A. "killed in action" was intended, that is a horrible clue.
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
but SOUL is a Kia model. So KIA is a SOUL MAKER. :)
David Connell (Weston CT)
As RMP says - it's the model name here.

"Seoul" as a transliteration of the name of the South Korean capital is a remainder of the French colonial influence in East Asia; the spelling makes little sense from an English-language perspective but was the way that the French made sense of the Korean vowels.
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
We've lost the war on "substance abuse": Trank, LUDE, TOPE, TOKE, WINO, with amoral ROUES and SEXT right behind.

Liked a side of China clue, though I did RETAIN yesterday's SLAW so I triggered it quickly.

In the 'spirit' of the theme, could a bald Native American use a buffalo hide as a Tepée?
Amy (Jersey City, NJ)
Fun and quick solve for a Thursday. Brought this song and songstress to mind. Not sure how I'd build the clue, but the answer would be Marquis de Sade. Oval gem of taboo singer?
https://youtu.be/Wnc9bsOlIqY
John (NJ)
Entertaining today, though I have to admit to not getting SEXT or WHITERICE until I read the column.

One nit: GIRD does not mean strengthen. MW has a secondary meaning "to prepare for conflict or a difficult task", but even that isn't quite it.
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
Dictionary.com definition #4:"to provide, equip, or invest, as with power or strength".
Leapfinger (Durham, NC)
Right. That would be 'gird your loins', and I always visualized that as wrapping something around them, so the loins were 'girt'.
David Connell (Weston CT)
Girt and girded join with a day or two ago's sawed / sawn. Girded and sawed retain the verbal force, while girt and sawn cross over into adjectival territory.
Hewed / hewn, sheared / shorn, birthed / born, burned / burnt, gilded / gilt.
All of our English words that suffer this double fate are just that - very, very English words.
Amitai Halevi (Regba, Israel)
I really enjoyed this puzzle. It was my first clean Thursday solve in a very long time. I confess to one look-up: ALEX. If that makes it unclean, so be it.

The last holdout was the SW corner. My first choice for 31D was WHITE BONE, which was discarded when I filled 16A: BONE, as I assumed correctly that the constructor would abide by the “no duplication” rule. My next choice was WHITE ROSE, which was disqualified for the same reason by ROSES at the end of 48A. GIRD followed, CELT and NCAA were guesses, and the completely unexpected WHITE RICE (Fantastic clue!) popped up and completed the solve.
Jimbo57 (Oceanside NY)
Even though I caught on to the theme relatively quickly, I still struggled with this one. I'll blah-may it on the cold medicine I took this morning. Other than trying VILLA before MAMMA @27D, the SW gave me all kindsa trouble. WHITERICE eluded me because of the tricky clue, and I have no EXCUSE (LAME or otherwise) for taking so long to remember THENATURAL. Enya finally rode to my rescue.

"RUN FOR THE ROSES" by soft-rock singer/songwriter Dan Fogelberg is a gentle paean to a racehorse which has earned a shot to run in the Kentucky Derby. The song made the Top 20 in 1982.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61cceAXnC6w
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
i do like that song. thanks for the link!
Rich in Atlanta (Decatur, Georgia)
I like it too, Jimbo.

I was going to link my favorite song about anticipating the afterlife, but I forgot that Bob Dylan's songs are just not available on Youtube and I didn't care for the cover versions. Knock, Knock.
Jimbo57 (Oceanside NY)
I'd put Clapton's cover about on a par with Dylan's original, Rich.
tensace (Richland MI)
58A could have been, even should have been, "Sports org. headquartered in Indianapolis, ironically/hypocritically" Why? Because as the NCAA relentlessly man hunts all collegiate team names that have anything to do with Native Americans, they've yet to solve one sticky problem. They're based in INDIANapolis, INDIANa.
paulymath (Potomac, MD)
When it comes to hypocrisy, the NCAA long ago won permanent possession of the annual American Sports Sanctimony Cup, though on the world scene it always faces stiff competition from the International Olympic Committee. The IOC's claims date at least as far back as the 1936 Games in Nazi Germany, where the it set records in kissing up to Hitler and his anti-semitic henchmen, and have only been embellished over the years since—including bribe-taking—right up to the present day.
Viv (Jerusalem, Israel)
Hi there Robert and Elke. You must just be waking up there out west, so let me be (among?) the first to say Happy Birthday Robert!

I loved today's puzzle. Very clever punning IMO. And while easy, the puzzle did provide some crunchy fill, such as INVECTIVE, DEISM, PLUME and others. As for THE NATURAL, I love baseball movies and am always happy to be reminded of one. But my favorite Malamud novel is still A NEW LIFE. Such a funny, ironic look at the academic world I have known so well nearly all my life - as student, faculty wife, student mother, faculty mother and senior administrative employee.
Robert (Vancouver, Canada)
and Elke
Good afternoon, Viv.Actually we are in the Southeast soon to be on the way back West to LAND AT Vancouver later tonight. Thank you for the lovely birthday wishes.

Liked the punny puzzle. Have been trying to think of a LAME EXCUSE to work the forest denizen or brotherhood member into the Elk(e).
Looking forward to being back in the Western time zone and getting the online puzzle at 7pm vs. 10pm...
suejean (Harrogate)
LAND AT was one of many that fooled me today. Have a great birthday, Robert.
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
Viv, I remember reading MOO which is a tongue in cheek look at a slice of academia (state universities in south and midwest mostly). I haven't read A NEW LIFE but will now. Thanks for the rec.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Now if only I knew how to make the keyboard type an accent!
I got stuck early, wanting Rural Electrification Project (which actually I think came a little later) until DHubby gave me the TVA, but then I got a car answer all by myself! (The Corvette thingie.)

Resisted the China side as long as possible...Mongolian Plain? Yellow Sea? Forces of Darkness (not a personal opinion or political incitement)?
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
OT Note to Deb, soon to be airborne and entering FlyOver Territory in Mid-Continent:

Be sure to pack your SPF 50+ sunscreen. I can burn in 5 minutes, which means you will burn even faster, especially given the fact that's it's still winter up there in NYC, mostly. You might also bring a badminton racquet, a useful tool for fending off attacking mosquitoes. (They grow them extra-large here.). A golf umbrella would not be amiss if the forecast includes rain (it's that time of year); raindrops here are the size of kittens. You don't need to bring your bicycle, as you can rent one in the RiverMarket (just down from the Clinton Presidential Library, next door to Sturgis Hall where you will be speaking.). Then you could do all 30 miles of the bicycle trail, including The Big Dam Bridge. (Honest, that's its name.) While you're here, do plan to try some of the native foods: fried pickles and fried okra. More tips to come!
Wags (Colorado)
Hey, when is Deb coming out here? We have few mosquitoes and our rain drops are only as big as mice. But you do need sunscreen, thanks to the altitude and extremely clear air.
Deadline (New York City)
MOL: It is very far from being winter up here. In fact, we didn't really have one this year--just a few isolated periods of one or two days of promise.
polymath (British Columbia)
Fun Thursday puzzle replete with punny familiar sayings. Lots of unusual entries made for a long solve today. I don't know the phrase RUN FOR THE ROSES and thought WHAC-A-MOLE had no K, but what the heck. Favorite clue: "One side of China?" for WHITE RICE, which had me bamboozled for quite a while.

And did anyone else notice, today's grid has a picture of a whole note in the center.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Left you a late note on grammar yesterday, PolyMath.
Pecan pie.
polymath (British Columbia)
Yum, thanks. (I guess I agree, but I'm not 100% sure.)
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
pm: looks like "the burning end of a midnight cigarette" to me. Maybe grids are a kind of rorschach blot? :)
eljay (Lansing, MI)
I've been wondering, as I try to pick up the salient and appreciated features of xword puzzles, about the significance of having all the black cells arranged symmetrically. I get that it's a feat and/or cute to manage to arrange them to visualize a thing related to the theme (like yesterday's note); but are they always symmetrical? Need they be? What is the significance?
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Eljay,
It is some kind of convention, and the heart's delight of so many people that every once in a while I wish my brain would work that way and I would notice (or even see) the symmetry, of which there are five sorts. All sorts are lost on me; I take it on faith that they are there. If someone uses a nonstandard (unconventional for crosswords) type, it is instantly the topic of commentary and creates much excitement. It takes more than that to get me all het up, personally. As Deb would say, YMMV.
Etaoin Shrdlu (Forgotten Borough)
Not sure when the convention of symmetry in the grid began, but it does impose a constraint on the constructor that can be exploited, as well. Similar to a sonnet or haiku. Cruciverbalists may suffer, but "Nuns fret not..."
David Connell (Weston CT)
A departure from the usual symmetry is always significant. That's the best way I can put it. If it isn't symmetrical it is for a reason: the black squares make an image (or the white squares do), or some of the black squares have an added layer of meaning other than "blank."

The usual symmetry is a mirror along both diagonals (if the fourth square from the left in the top line is black, the fourth square from the right at the bottom is also black). Rarely, there is a mirror on the center line (left-right symmetry) and, extremely rarely, there is a mirror on the horizon (top-bottom symmetry).

Solvers of Diagramless puzzles get to a different level of understanding about the shape of the puzzle grid, since they start out with a blank grid. If you visit the archives and look under Variety for Diagramless puzzles, you might get hooked. Or not!
CS (Providence, RI)
Found today's punny puzzle to be fun even though it flew by a little too fast. More important to me today, though, is the reference to Beauty and the Beast. Daughter left yesterday for Alaska to perform in BATB. No, she's not BELLE, but she is thrilled to be dancing her heart out. Break a Leg!
David Connell (Weston CT)
I work with kids and we're preparing a musical just now. I have a new 2nd-grade girl in the group and it is unbelievable how excited she is to be Lion No. 3 with two lines to say. Some people are born to the stage, I guess.
CS (Providence, RI)
You are so right, David. She's been at it for almost 20 years and she isn't 26 yet. Actually, she went to school probably not too far from you. This is the farthest she's gone for a show.
David Connell (Weston CT)
A week or so ago, the puzzle mentioned "butterflies" in the clue for "agita" and several commenters wrote about how that wasn't quite the right match. Some of my favorite teachers have pointed out that, if you go on stage and have no butterflies of any kind, you are just about to give a sub-par performance. The butterflies come from caring as much as from worrying, from wanting to do well as much as from not wanting to fail. Once the performer knows them as a good sign of investment in the act of performing, they become, well, one's frenemies.

And the tech crew, pit band, and house management should have some, too, while we're at it! Places, everyone. Places!

https://youtu.be/l17SQeytHN8?t=1m
Gordon (Brooklyn)
I went down an early blind alley, thinking the Over-indulging one was a NANA who in 25-down would DOTE. What a blow when grandma turned out to be a toping wino!

Fun puzzle
Rich in Atlanta (Decatur, Georgia)
Really slow start for me. The usual memory failures, picking the wrong alternative in a couple of places (e.g. DEAD before AWAY) and some misdirections that I just wasn't getting. And after a while I was just stuck. I had a couple of failed checks which turned out to be unnecessary if I'd just waited a little bit longer.

Malamud was familiar but I couldn't remember what he wrote. I've read Clockwork Orange too, but was sure I wouldn't remember the character's name and didn't even bother to try. And then there was 4d. I knew that I knew that and couldn't remember it. And then out of nowhere, Isaac Bashevis Singer to the rescue (Yentl the Yeshiva boy). And then within 30 seconds I remembered both THENATURAL and ALEX. And there's a reason for that, which I will cover in an OT reply.

Enjoyable puzzle and and it was a lot of fun to work out. Nice 'aha' moments on most of the theme answers and some very good non-theme entries too; enjoyed having things like WHITERICE and INVECTIVE finally dawn on me from the crosses. Really don't see too much junk, but this was one of those days when it wouldn't have bothered me anyway.

I'm pleased.
Rich in Atlanta (Decatur, Georgia)
OT: This puzzle left me with a smile on my face. I enjoyed the solve but beyond that, the coincidence of three answers (which I mentioned above) brought back some very pleasant memories.

On my second attempt at college I had an English professor who taught creative writing and also English lit classes which were sort of.. non-standard. His name was Mark Dintenfass. He was a published author and a very good writer (IMHO), though never very well known and I see that all of his novels appear to be out of print. Here's a Times review of one of his books:

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/28/books/come-meet-the-family.html

I took his creative writing course a few times (it was allowed), with pretty much the same gang of usual suspects as classmates each time. It was very educational but also a lot of fun. He got one of my stories (about a Vietnamese lizard) published in the school literary journal and encouraged me to submit it to the New Yorker. I wish I'd kept the rejection letter.

I also took his lit classes a couple of times and he introduced me to Singer (who remains one of my favorite authors). But I also know that we read both A Clockwork Orange and The Natural in those classes. Which is why I think all those answers dawned on me almost simultaneously.

Don't know what else to say. I just can't help but smile thinking back on those days and those classes and those discussions and a wonderful teacher.
Deadline (New York City)
How lucky you were to have had such a wonderful teacher, RiA.

From the review, I probably would have sought out the book--and Mr. Dintenfass's other works if available.
Rich in Atlanta (Decatur, Georgia)
DL, his books are still available through Amazon and other sources, though either 'used' or from 'third party sources.'

But, I wouldn't be surprised if his works are available at the New York public library. Though he lived and taught in the mid-west as an adult, he grew up in New York and was considered a 'New York' writer (he identified that as a specific genre and used to talk about it at some length). At any rate, it might be worth checking out.

I actually haven't read the book that was reviewed (and one other as well) and plan to get them through Amazon.
dk (Saint Croix Falls, WI)
Sail for SPAR, recall for retain and spelling SAKE as saki -- my 39A for a slow solve.

4/20 Weed day. Puzzle, as noted by Larry, references sex (16A), drugs (57A) and rock and roll (35A). 26D as Mr. Natural would have been fun.

Thank you Jeff
Larry (Nashville)
Several references to mind altering substances or their use (LUDE, WINO, TOPE, TOKE) but it is 4/20. Don't tell me it's just a coincidence!
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
I didn't get the "coincidence" until you reminded me of the date. Thanks!
CS (Providence, RI)
I'm glad 4/20 means something else now. For too long, I have associated it with the birthday of the most evil person ever.
Deadline (New York City)
April 20 is National Lima Bean Respect Day.

Sufferin' succotash!
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
Fun theme -- ole!

Toughest part for me was the middle. My grid was looking something like a donut. I was thinking that the trick word in all the theme answers was going to be the last, so LAME fooled me. This was a good thing, as one of solving's great highs, IMO, is successfully wrestling though a tough section.

Great clues for SIZE and SEXT, and lovely not-often-seen answers ABRADE (twice in the past ten years) and INVECTIVE (this was the first time in the Shortz era).

FATAL tripped my brain off to thinking about Fat Albert -- remember those innocent times???
Mac Knight (Yakima, WA)
This puzzle was worthwhile just for the puns. I found it a little easy for a Thursday, too. Done too soon.

Thanks for the chuckles.
archaeoprof (on a train for Stonehenge)
Slow going for me, even with just one writeover, at 19A: ROam/ROVE. Laughed out loud at the last two theme anwers: very clever of our constructor to find amusing re-pronunciations for such familiar phrases.
suejean (Harrogate)
Some found this easy for a Thursday; I found it hard, but worth it to get to the fun theme answers.

Even though I started at the top as usual, my first theme fill was RUN FOR THE ROSÉS. I guess if you do that too often you'll risk being a 2 and 25D.

I knew the Mark Twain quote would be from Innocents Abroad. As a keen fan I was disappointed in that as I think he did in fact come off as somewhat of a bigot. Maybe he recognized that in himself.

Not as tricky as some Thursdays, but a lot of unknowns for me so it's lucky I don't mind looking things up. Good one Jeffrey.
Paul (Virginia)
TRANK had me scratching my head even though I am sure we have seen it before; so that eLUDEd me a little while. A nice Thursday entry.
Jon Mark (Newton, MA)
Please help: what group of 18 is TEE a member of? Golf course?
Rampiak (SF Bay Area)
Yes... I think that's the intended meaning
David Connell (Weston CT)
Recto and verso properly mean the front and back of a sheet of paper (the finished side and the unfinished side in terms of the actual production of the paper, or the first side to be read and the following side). The clue was very accurate in saying "usually numbered 1, 3, 5."
In the old system (first printed books and early manuscripts), the recto and verso had the same "page number" - so their page 3 recto would be our page 5.

The properties and consequences of paper grain are explored in this fun video:
https://tinyurl.com/papergrain
Elishka (Omaha NE)
Thanks for that info! I'm a print designer, so I love geek in out on typography and paper terminology!
David Connell (Weston CT)
Appreciate the appreciation, Elishka.

Anybody who works with an office printer or copier has - knowingly or not - dealt with the consequences of paper having a "right" side and a "wrong" side. Every time a co-worker takes paper willy-nilly and adds it to a feeder tray - or takes it out of one and puts it into a stack wrong way up - a paper jam or misfeed looms ahead.

In books printed right-to-left (as, e.g., Hebrew books), recto still names the odd-numbered pages - but they are on the left, not the right.

And those who work with cloth (hello, MOL) know all about grain and bias, how they can be used either to stiffen or to make flexible.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Ah, yes! You are so right :0)
And the value of starch.
Mike Ramee (Denver)
A nearly controversy-free puzzle today. OK, there is one INVECTIVE but I was only slightly offended.
Dan (Philadelphia)
Nice theme. Pretty easy for a Thursday, though.
Alex Kent (Westchester)
The puzzle wouldn't download to my iPad the usual way, so I tried the Archive option and, lo and behold, the Thursday came up. The puzzle was clever but easier than most Thursdays.
Liz B (Durham, NC)
As to 6D: Immediately before coming to this puzzle I had literally just finished a puzzle from December 1996 that had the clue "Seat of King Olaf's rule" with the answer OSLO, so I thought Aha! I can remember it that long! and put down OLAF. Which of course turned out to be wrong. It looks like the Norwegian OLAFs were from around the year 1000 and the Norwegian OLAVS are more modern. So there's no way you can win on that one, you just have to wait for the crosses or be lucky. Ah well.
Steve L (Chestnut Ridge, NY)
"Anyone else find it hard to remember whether the Nordic kings’ names are OLAF or OLAV? Turns out that it’s OLAV."

Turns out it's OLAV ***today***. Turns out it can be either one, depending on the needs of the constructor. By 247-174, OLAF beats OLAV in number of times used, according to xwordinfo.com.

Also:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=king+olaf%2Cking+olav&...
David Connell (Weston CT)
The old name was Óláfr (or Áleifur, depending on how far back you go), a name meaning basically "descendant of the ancestors," with the implication of "worthy" at the beginning of that otherwise tautological expression. Olaf, Olav, Oliver, all have their roots there, though Ulf does not - it is another name for Wolf.
Mike Ramee (Denver)
As an somewhat shaky speller I face this situation quite often. My solution:

o Take a deep breath,

o Enter "O", "L" and "A",

o Move on, trusting that all will be resolved in the fullness of time.

In this case that faith is rewarded as HEAVEN is our salvation.
David Connell (Weston CT)
That is the ideal method, Mike R., highly recommended.
Mauna _ _ A, just enter the "A" and figure out later whether it is Kea or Loa.

Of course, "Heaven" in early English was spelled with an F in that place! Part of the same spelling change as Olaf / Olav.