I hope he never releases his tax returns. I like hearing liberals whine about things that don't matter. And I have nothing but respect for anyone who can get around paying the oppressive income taxes that feed the liberal moochers in this country.
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If Trump is truly under an IRS audit why doesn't he at least release the letter from the IRS notifying him of the audit?
Answer: There is no audit. Another Trump lie.
Answer: There is no audit. Another Trump lie.
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Mr. Trump. This is your employer speaking, the American tax payer.
At your earliest convenience, please provide your tax returns. Failure to do so could result in the termination of your continued employment. Thank you.
The Tax Payers.
At your earliest convenience, please provide your tax returns. Failure to do so could result in the termination of your continued employment. Thank you.
The Tax Payers.
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Two concerns about this article:
1) Kudlow is an economist? By training, maybe; certainly not by practice, because economics is supposed to be a science (and thus responsive to reality).
2) Regarding Frank Luntz's conclusion that Trump's tax history is a low priority for voters, I'm wondering how the question was asked of his survey participants. One possibility: "How much does this matter to you?" Another possibility: "If the President's tax history were to contain information that suggested conflicts of interest, how important would it be for the nation to know this?"
1) Kudlow is an economist? By training, maybe; certainly not by practice, because economics is supposed to be a science (and thus responsive to reality).
2) Regarding Frank Luntz's conclusion that Trump's tax history is a low priority for voters, I'm wondering how the question was asked of his survey participants. One possibility: "How much does this matter to you?" Another possibility: "If the President's tax history were to contain information that suggested conflicts of interest, how important would it be for the nation to know this?"
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Holding the highest office in the land should require release of returns, plain and simple.
An audit excuse is nothing but a red herring, as we know.
Conways claim that no one cares is what she wants to believe, but a lie.
Everyone, including his supporters, knows he has something to hide. Why else would he be so defiant?
An audit excuse is nothing but a red herring, as we know.
Conways claim that no one cares is what she wants to believe, but a lie.
Everyone, including his supporters, knows he has something to hide. Why else would he be so defiant?
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It's interesting that even though all agree the tax code needs to be reformed, it is more important that a single person's return be seen. A return that has been reviewed by the IRS and accepted in all previous years leads us to believe the income is legitimate. But to have 100's of millions of people suffer the heavy hand of the IRS because the political opponents of a single person want information they are not entitled to see is ridiculous.
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I don't agree that the tax code needs to be reformed, at least not until I know which direction we're headed (progressive or regressive). Best to watch your generalizations, or you might find that (horror of horrors) not everyone shares your assumptions and you're wrong.
Republican senators it is time for you to demand Mr. Trump release his tax return. Tax reform cannot happen without this information being made public.
Trump wants to know how many commenters supporting the release of Trump's tax returns were paid?
Can someone tell my why State Governors, for example, California's Governor Brown who is one of the biggest show me your taxes Trump cryers has NEVER released his taxes and refuses to list all his business connections that he directly profits millions from with laws he has passed, not the voters. Not a single rally or protest has ever been held. I know my state taxes just jumped up. Gas Tax, Registration Tax, Bag Tax, Paint Tax, Wood tax, Smoking Tax (I don't smoke but still what a total ripoff), Soda Tax, Flood Tax and then all the new fees which are just hidden taxes that are then diverted to pet projects to bribe voters in exchange for FREE Everything. Check out your own state, county or city politician about their tax returns. You will be shocked on who or what they own to stay elected. YEAR WITHOUT A TAX PAYER rally!
Petty nonsense. The Democrats have assumed the mantle of the party of No.
If Trump has misrepresented his income that is a matter for the IRS, not the crazy neoliberal identity politics mob
If Trump has misrepresented his income that is a matter for the IRS, not the crazy neoliberal identity politics mob
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The issue (probably) isn't whether he's misrepresented something on his returns, but what he's trying to hide. The issues are, to whom might he be beholden financially; and how would whatever tax plan he proposes benefit him and his family, as opposed to the rest of us. This is serious business - definitely not petty, and definitely not nonsense. And it's not going away.
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Roar,,, great name. Trump is the leader of silence. He's got something to hide and doesn't want anyone to find out what that is.
If the congress had any gumption they would subpoena his tax records.
What does he have to hide? I'll bet it's a lot.
If the congress had any gumption they would subpoena his tax records.
What does he have to hide? I'll bet it's a lot.
"What Paul Ryan’s tax cut would mean for middle-class families"
"A typical household would save about $260 in the first year after the reform, compared to over $200,000 a year for a household in the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans." This guy, Paul Ryan, is the leader of the Republicans in the House of Representatives. The House of Representatives is supposed to represent you. But they don't. They represent the rich who give them money to fool you into thinking they will represent you. This is the same song and dance we've been getting for years. $1.00 for regular folks, $1,000 for my rich friends. Another $1.00 for you, another $1,000 for my friends. In the end you get $260 and my friends get $200,000. Don't get me wrong there are some Democrats who are sell outs. But Republicans sell their soul to the devil and the highest bidder, most every time. We got to start thinking if we want to take back our country from the Republicans and their rich friends. By the way, how did that Republican health care plan work out? Hurt the little guy didn't it? Let's get smart and get rid of the Republicons.
"A typical household would save about $260 in the first year after the reform, compared to over $200,000 a year for a household in the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans." This guy, Paul Ryan, is the leader of the Republicans in the House of Representatives. The House of Representatives is supposed to represent you. But they don't. They represent the rich who give them money to fool you into thinking they will represent you. This is the same song and dance we've been getting for years. $1.00 for regular folks, $1,000 for my rich friends. Another $1.00 for you, another $1,000 for my friends. In the end you get $260 and my friends get $200,000. Don't get me wrong there are some Democrats who are sell outs. But Republicans sell their soul to the devil and the highest bidder, most every time. We got to start thinking if we want to take back our country from the Republicans and their rich friends. By the way, how did that Republican health care plan work out? Hurt the little guy didn't it? Let's get smart and get rid of the Republicons.
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Here is a radical suggestion: resurrect the IRS code from 1957 - adjust all the brackets and the deductions for inflation, and let it rip. Wipe out 60 years of obfuscatory regulation is one swell foop.
The people who actually DO things - who work for a living - pay a higher percentage of their earning in taxes now than they ever have (think: payroll taxes, sales taxes, fuel taxes, etc.) while the rich who live off their investments pay the lowest that they have since before the Great Depression.
And, you know what? My grocer doesn't care if the dollars that I use to pay for my groceries come from wages or investments - why should the IRS treat wages and investments differently?
The people who actually DO things - who work for a living - pay a higher percentage of their earning in taxes now than they ever have (think: payroll taxes, sales taxes, fuel taxes, etc.) while the rich who live off their investments pay the lowest that they have since before the Great Depression.
And, you know what? My grocer doesn't care if the dollars that I use to pay for my groceries come from wages or investments - why should the IRS treat wages and investments differently?
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Reform the tax code is simply more code for make the rich richer. We know from the bad old Reagan days that that means "trickle down" economics that never seem to trickle down to the Middle Class let alone the poor. And to pay for growing the military into an even more bloated entity than it already is, as well as budget for a national infrastructure bill, not to mention pay for that big ol' wall that we don't need, just who will pay for all that stuff? Tax reform means the wealthy will get wealthier -- including President Trump & Family & Inlaws & Company -- while the Middle Class gets its economic back broken (again) paying for everything, and the poor get poorer. Of course, some money will be saved by cutting programs that encourage education, healthcare, the environment and climate change, clean water, safe food, etc. And maybe even throwing millions of elderly under the bus by robbing SS & Medicare and canceling Medicaid altogether.
But, gee, let's not bother the President about his mysterious tax returns. After all, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to, because he won the election.
But, gee, let's not bother the President about his mysterious tax returns. After all, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to, because he won the election.
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"Reform the tax code is simply more code for make the rich richer. "
So you think the government should stop the "rich from getting richer" by stealing their money from them? This, in your eyes, is what the government should be doing to its citizens? Wow. That's scary.
So you think the government should stop the "rich from getting richer" by stealing their money from them? This, in your eyes, is what the government should be doing to its citizens? Wow. That's scary.
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Oh please. The tax returns were done before he became president. What's that got to do with anything now unless you just want to disrupt for the sake of it.
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There are more than a few questions as to the legitimacy of this president, the more secret he insists on being, the less legitimate he becomes. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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Liberals are obsessed with Trump's tax returns. If he was doing something illegal don't you think the IRS would have done something about it? Get over it.
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The issue isn't (probably) whether he's done something illegal. The issues are, to whom might he be beholden financially; and how would whatever tax plan he proposes benefit him and his family, as opposed to the rest of us. We should absolutely not "get over it" until he comes clean.
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Tax forms won't give you the information you're looking for. Have you ever seen a tax form? They don't ask you to NAME THE SOURCES of income.
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Why should I pay taxes? It's questionable whether our "president" pays his taxes. I have far less money than he, so here's the question: why chase someone like me, when there is so much more to gain chasing the Trumps of the country? See the problem?
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I was out on the sidewalk (unpaid) on the weekend to pressure my MoC to do something regarding Trump's tax returns. I do not care WHAT he makes. Release the whole thing without numerical information. I want to know what types of deductions he takes, what use he makes of the tax code, what implications his holdings have for conflict of interest, if he has has ever made a charitable deduction, and if he pays any taxes at all. I am sure there is other information that experts could investigate if given the proper information. These have to do with questions of governance. Can anyone trust that DJT has the country's best interests at heart? Tax information would help to parse that.
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The idea that income tax reform is 100% of the economy is just plain wrong. During the last century the USA experienced some of its greatest growth in output when income tax rates were much higher than today. Remember the top rate was 48% before the Tax Reform Act of 1986. Investors still made investments and earned profits.
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don't you get it????!!!!! if you gave him powers to go around Congress and their stupid process, he could easily, easily fix the tax code. Why I'll bet that as I write this, he's asking his attorneys to get a referendum to give him special powers.......and a REAL referendum! Not one of those Constitutional things that has to go to every state, blah, blah, blah. Just trust him. He gets things done. He's a business man!
Ok.....seriously.....Democrats, what are you doing to advertise this stuff in Red States? This stuff is writing itself. For God's sake, hire Colbert writers to write the commercials. Colbert seems to nail it.
Ok.....seriously.....Democrats, what are you doing to advertise this stuff in Red States? This stuff is writing itself. For God's sake, hire Colbert writers to write the commercials. Colbert seems to nail it.
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Trump couldn't sign away our internet privacy fast enough.
His cronies can now sell our history to the highest bidder or to Trump for his use.
He knew he was doing wrong and signed away our privacy out of view.
Trump refuses access to the visitors log to his House of Lies.
He refuses to reveal the tax returns that could show gross conflicts.
If nothing is wrong, why is he hiding them???
Why did he sign away OUR privacy which no one has a right to while he hides his dealings?
Trump is an employee of ours. We have a right to know what his conflicts of interest are. We have a right to know how he is using the office to enrich himself. And why he signed away our privacy.
We want it back !
His cronies can now sell our history to the highest bidder or to Trump for his use.
He knew he was doing wrong and signed away our privacy out of view.
Trump refuses access to the visitors log to his House of Lies.
He refuses to reveal the tax returns that could show gross conflicts.
If nothing is wrong, why is he hiding them???
Why did he sign away OUR privacy which no one has a right to while he hides his dealings?
Trump is an employee of ours. We have a right to know what his conflicts of interest are. We have a right to know how he is using the office to enrich himself. And why he signed away our privacy.
We want it back !
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Did we actually allow the daughter of a US President to go to China,as a fully credentialled Owner of the nations most important secrets, , to bargain with China about earrings and stilettos? Yes we did.
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Well, "We" didn't, but I get your point.
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NO TAX REFORM......until....TRUMP ...shows us his taxes......
What is he hiding....that is the most obvious question.
What is he hiding....that is the most obvious question.
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Carter P, Paul M, Flynn, Jared, Cohen ... was there anyone in his campaign that didn't talk or meet with the Russians or didn't pull a paycheck from a foreign government?
Taxes? DJT, when you promised to release your taxes that was without condition. Because you won, that doesn't release you from your commitment. You are proving yourself not to be a man of your word. You are exposing yourself to be a liar ... again.
Sad! Pathetic! Fake promises! Liar!
And, 100 days in ... let's tally all the winning so far ... ummm ... a big fat zero! Where's the beef Don? Hope the golf game is better than your leadership game.
Taxes? DJT, when you promised to release your taxes that was without condition. Because you won, that doesn't release you from your commitment. You are proving yourself not to be a man of your word. You are exposing yourself to be a liar ... again.
Sad! Pathetic! Fake promises! Liar!
And, 100 days in ... let's tally all the winning so far ... ummm ... a big fat zero! Where's the beef Don? Hope the golf game is better than your leadership game.
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N.B. Tax reform does not require any action by Congress. Like immigration for President Obama, the law can be effectively neutered by an executive action that prohibits or suspends enforcement of the tax laws as they currently exist. There is nothing the legislature or the courts can do if that executive action is signed.
Let's keep in mind that Trump not only created this impass, he could resolve it in 5 minutes by doing what every other presidential candidate has done - release years of his tax filings -and he could disprove that he is taking advantage of his position to profit from being President and could disprove that he has/has had financial ties to an enemy (Russia) that creates a dire conflict in his ability to govern.
Trump could easily do what Jimmy Carter did. Carter divested himself of his beloved peanut farm, which had very little possibility of creating a conflict of interest with his role as president. Trump has many possible conflicts of interest. He must disclose his potential conflicts.
Trump could easily do what Jimmy Carter did. Carter divested himself of his beloved peanut farm, which had very little possibility of creating a conflict of interest with his role as president. Trump has many possible conflicts of interest. He must disclose his potential conflicts.
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Does anyone serious think that the Democrats will play ball with Trump if he were to release his tax returns; even if it was every return that he and his extended family ever filed in their lives.
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Poor excuse- Every President's taxes are audited and every president for decades releases their taxes every year. So what is D trump hiding?
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The Democrat's antic to thwart consideration of tax reform to force public disclosure of President Trump's private returns will guarantee the demise of the legislative filibuster.
Go for it.
Go for it.
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We are!
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In his daily press briefing Monday, Spicer was asked specifically if Trump will ever make his tax returns public. Here's Spicer's exchange with Jonathan Karl of ABC News:
Karl: "Is it time to just say once and for all the president is never going to release his tax returns?"
Spicer: "We'll have to get back to you on that."
Karl: "You won't ... I mean you see ... really?"
Spicer: "Really."
Karl: "So he may?"
Spicer: "No, I said I'd have to get back to you on that ... he is still under audit. The statement still stands."
Karl: "Is it time to just say once and for all the president is never going to release his tax returns?"
Spicer: "We'll have to get back to you on that."
Karl: "You won't ... I mean you see ... really?"
Spicer: "Really."
Karl: "So he may?"
Spicer: "No, I said I'd have to get back to you on that ... he is still under audit. The statement still stands."
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mr. trump promised The American People that he would release his taxes and we all know what mr. trump's favorite book says about promises.
"You shall be careful to do what has passed your lips, for you have voluntarily vowed to the Lord your God what you have promised with your mouth."
-Deuteronomy 23:23
"You shall be careful to do what has passed your lips, for you have voluntarily vowed to the Lord your God what you have promised with your mouth."
-Deuteronomy 23:23
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He had made a campaign promise to reveal his tax return when the audit was complete.
As a country, we depend on voluntary compliance and the President should be setting an example of being in compliance. By not showing his taxes, we can only conclude that he is not in compliance. What kind of example is that for the rest of us!
As a country, we depend on voluntary compliance and the President should be setting an example of being in compliance. By not showing his taxes, we can only conclude that he is not in compliance. What kind of example is that for the rest of us!
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We all know the answer to this one because we are all thinking adults. The reason Trump doesn't want to release his tax returns is because he has cheated and misrepresented for the last 20 years to avoid paying any Federal taxes. Exposure of that will surely hasten the upcoming impeachment. Failure to release the taxes will make him a hypocrite; which of course he is, on all other issues as well. At least he is consistent for his followers....
Note to the Donald: Just show us the money. We want to know how much the Russians gave you and how much you paid in taxes that go toward protecting your huge real estate empire.
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How many years of taxes by Trump are under Audit? Probably the last fifteen!!
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Look, the Grifter in Chief is hiding his misdeeds and greed.
Every President has been subject to an automatic audit.
It hasn't prevented President after President from releasing their tax return.
Or the Vice President.
As President Nixon said about loosing his returns: The American people need to know their President is not a crook. I am not a crook."
Nixon was under audit.
Nixon was a crook.
Lock him up.
The first American Tsar sent to jail.
Every President has been subject to an automatic audit.
It hasn't prevented President after President from releasing their tax return.
Or the Vice President.
As President Nixon said about loosing his returns: The American people need to know their President is not a crook. I am not a crook."
Nixon was under audit.
Nixon was a crook.
Lock him up.
The first American Tsar sent to jail.
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Wake up USA. Fewer than 300 families own you, your country, and half of the rest of the world. You made this possible by voting for republicans who really have only one agenda-- to keep themselves rich and by making the rich ever richer, through the most corrupt tax system the world has ever experienced.. Buy Congress. Done and done. Case closed. Pretend you have a choice, you fools. Or revolt. It is time.
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We're right behind you...
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Trump is the very pinnacle of this disgusting rule by riches. If you are behind me, I had better arm myself.
How many days do these political editorials masquerading as news articles run on page 1 of the NYT before they are considered stale? Perhaps more accurately, how many days do NYT loyalists have to re-read something in order to understand and remember the party line?
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So the president of the united states lying to his base isn't news down there in texas?
george w. bush makes a lot more sense now.
george w. bush makes a lot more sense now.
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Broken record.
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Trump's whining and complaining will be the trademark of his presidency, a small narrow-minded petty little man.
Trump's tax returns .. who cares ?
Only those who have something personal against Trump dwell on it.
The rest of America is into #MAGA.
Only those who have something personal against Trump dwell on it.
The rest of America is into #MAGA.
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How would you know? Texas isn't really part of America is it?
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When it's all said and done, Trump will have been proven himself to be the biggest liar and most dishonest person to ever inhabit the Whitehouse.
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I've always thought Trump didn't/won't release his taxes because if he did, then everyone would be able to tell that he was equity heavy but cash light and not really a billionaire.
Besides, half of the people in America don't even pay federal income taxes. I find it a little rich that people who want Trump to show his taxes have done nothing in life and so have nothing to share, but they want to see his!!
I think if we had a flat tax, maybe people would be a little more reticent to look the other way when the government wastes money, since they'd actually have some skin in the game.
Besides, half of the people in America don't even pay federal income taxes. I find it a little rich that people who want Trump to show his taxes have done nothing in life and so have nothing to share, but they want to see his!!
I think if we had a flat tax, maybe people would be a little more reticent to look the other way when the government wastes money, since they'd actually have some skin in the game.
trumps fans dont want the taxes released bc they want to believe in his goodness
in their hearts, they know somethings wrong, but that would mean they made the wrong choice, and like trump, theyll never admit it
if they saw the horribleness of his taxes, they would say, but now what
he was our hope and now hes gone too
they want to hold on to a dream even knowing its a sham -- kind of like christians
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Trump will never release his tax returns. Forget it. There has got to be some significant item that he is concealing. Otherwise, he would have displayed his returns long ago, especially considering all the negative publicity the secrecy is generating. Think about it: There is no upside to hiding his taxes, so there must be a heck of a downside.
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Yeah, the downside is jail. Or exile in Russia. Lol
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How the tax code affects the President and his family should have no consequence on tax reform. Tax reform should be based on equity, not on special interests.
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Good then he should cough 'em up to prevent those rotten Dems from obstructing the MAJORITY GOP!
If you check your team's roles you'll find it ain't just the Dems who want your draft dodging president to cough up his taxes.
So keep blaming the minority party if it helps you sleep at night but if you think the calls for your president to release his returns are going to go away you don't know The American People very well.
If you check your team's roles you'll find it ain't just the Dems who want your draft dodging president to cough up his taxes.
So keep blaming the minority party if it helps you sleep at night but if you think the calls for your president to release his returns are going to go away you don't know The American People very well.
"Equity"? But who decides what's equitable? Who? And what?
Something Sen. John F. Kennedy said about his own peculiar circumstances if nothing else should resonate: "life is unfair". Tax codes, however structured and styled, are illogical, arbitrary, and patently unfair.
Something Sen. John F. Kennedy said about his own peculiar circumstances if nothing else should resonate: "life is unfair". Tax codes, however structured and styled, are illogical, arbitrary, and patently unfair.
Trump has a political and moral obligation to make his HONEST tax returns public. In this case I agree with the Democrats. Trump can't self deal without complete transparency.
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The importance of seeing Trump's tax returns for the past ten years — and also those for the Trump Organization — is only partly related to how changes to the tax code might benefit Trump, and only partly related to figuring out why Putin wanted Trump to win the election. To me, the biggest reason to demand Trump's returns is so we can perhaps better understand the ostensibly manifold conflicts of interest that affect Trump's policy decisions and concessions. Given the many important investigations and concerns along these lines, Trumps refusal to release his returns is the height of selfishness and cowardice.
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I'd like to see the Democratic and Republican party both push in each state, that for all prospective candidates for Presidential primaries release their last 25 years of tax returns, investments, and financial history to begin with the 2020 campaign.
I'd also like to see a regular feature showing an ongoing tally of Trump's trips to his country club to golf at Mar-a-Lago be and the costs to the tax payers; he seems to be outspending and out golfing every president prior to him combined.
NO PRESIDENT in my lifetime has spent so much time away on weekly breaks as Donald Trump, and the country is already suffering for it, he has done nothing but sign show and tell legislative acts as props, but has done nothing beneficial for the country.
I'd also like to see a regular feature showing an ongoing tally of Trump's trips to his country club to golf at Mar-a-Lago be and the costs to the tax payers; he seems to be outspending and out golfing every president prior to him combined.
NO PRESIDENT in my lifetime has spent so much time away on weekly breaks as Donald Trump, and the country is already suffering for it, he has done nothing but sign show and tell legislative acts as props, but has done nothing beneficial for the country.
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Hey knock it off. Bogey boy has to keep up his hobby.
And you know he loves costing us millions while he plays golf.
And you know he loves costing us millions while he plays golf.
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The requirements for running for president is outdated. Corporations regularly conduct background checks. And yet anyone can run on a ticket...and ah, get voted in.
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Yeah a little bit of vetting would keep Donald Trump under lock and key.
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Obviously, there is a lot at stake here,” Mr. Camp said. “Health care is 20 percent of the economy, but tax reform is 100 percent of the economy.”
It seems to be a familiar tactic, intentional or not, to distil issues -- health care, tax reform -- into overly simple characterizations, as Mr. Camp does in this example. So badly oversimplified, that the ambiguity of his statement leads to a logical blur that gives one serious pause. In my mind, 100% of the population must deal with matters of health care. Tax collections finance about one hundred percent of government operations, but government is not all there is to the economy. For whom, then, is tax reform 100% of the economy? For the CEOs bent on maximizing corporate income, a simple-minded notion of minimizing constraints on income may be all that determines their attitude toward tax reform. For an employee with modest wages, I never would have salivated at the thought that tax cuts would knock off a fex hundred dollars from my tax burden.
It seems to be a familiar tactic, intentional or not, to distil issues -- health care, tax reform -- into overly simple characterizations, as Mr. Camp does in this example. So badly oversimplified, that the ambiguity of his statement leads to a logical blur that gives one serious pause. In my mind, 100% of the population must deal with matters of health care. Tax collections finance about one hundred percent of government operations, but government is not all there is to the economy. For whom, then, is tax reform 100% of the economy? For the CEOs bent on maximizing corporate income, a simple-minded notion of minimizing constraints on income may be all that determines their attitude toward tax reform. For an employee with modest wages, I never would have salivated at the thought that tax cuts would knock off a fex hundred dollars from my tax burden.
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@Prof. West:
There is no such thing as tax "reform" per se, only a slow and quiet shift of taxation burdens from the rich and powerful to the poor and weak.
But it has always been so. Tax rebellions savagely repressed by princes are a staple of history. The American Revolution occurred because many colonists had been driven to America by poverty and overtaxation. When Parliament began the same process here immediately following the French and Indian War those same colonists recognized the familiar invisible hand that had reduced them to want and penury, saw it for what it really was and resisted it with all their might.
There is no such thing as tax "reform" per se, only a slow and quiet shift of taxation burdens from the rich and powerful to the poor and weak.
But it has always been so. Tax rebellions savagely repressed by princes are a staple of history. The American Revolution occurred because many colonists had been driven to America by poverty and overtaxation. When Parliament began the same process here immediately following the French and Indian War those same colonists recognized the familiar invisible hand that had reduced them to want and penury, saw it for what it really was and resisted it with all their might.
The Democrats would support tax reform if Trump released his returns? That's actually funny.
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I know.
Draft dodger trump keeping a promise to his confederate base...HA...Good one!
Draft dodger trump keeping a promise to his confederate base...HA...Good one!
I know right?
Trump keeping a promise...Hilarious!
Trump keeping a promise...Hilarious!
Some of them would. It's not only Democrats that want to see trumps tax returns. It's everybody who loves America doesn't want it cheated by a con.
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As long as the IRS sees them, they're the ones whose job it is to verify if they're legit or not. If I was trying to rip off the country, it would be them I'd worry about seeing my tax return. When they are revealed, a lot of people will say they are outraged at some of the deductions Trump could get away with, but only because they couldn't. Trump and his advisor probably understand the hypocrisy of our tax system, that not revealing his taxes only magnifies that.
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Force Congress to act America. Congress has the authority to obtain and reveal the confidential tax information of any President as result of Teapot Dome Scandal. Congress must stop protecting Trump feigning protection of average citizen. It's pure fiction that forcing Trump's hand on taxes would have negative reverberations on average citizens. NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION!
"Force" Congress to "act"? With what?
Sweet reason?
Moral arguments?
Bread and circuses?
Gun butts and clubs?
Congress is craven, cowardly and corrupted by monied interests to the marrow of its bones. Most Members are careerists primarily motivated by self-interest. Sen. McConnell never tires pointing out that, for most, the principal challenge is simply getting there, finding some way to get elected, and reelected.
The U.S. House of Representatives is driven by seniority. House committee chairmen are appointed by the Speaker and can be removed at any time. Institutionally, the House is run by the majority party like a dictatorship. Nothing happens without the Speaker's permission.
The U.S. Senate is similarly encumbered by seniority although authority is diffused by arcane rules, procedures, coalitions, tradition and privilege. Individually, senators can obstruct legislation by placing "holds" on bills and appointments.
Both legislative bodies are besieged and manipulated by legions of lobbyists. While there is no exact figure, it's said paid registered lobbyists outnumber Members of Congress 250:1.
Congress might yet impeach Trump, but only after exhausting every possible option and the House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader benefit personally.
Sweet reason?
Moral arguments?
Bread and circuses?
Gun butts and clubs?
Congress is craven, cowardly and corrupted by monied interests to the marrow of its bones. Most Members are careerists primarily motivated by self-interest. Sen. McConnell never tires pointing out that, for most, the principal challenge is simply getting there, finding some way to get elected, and reelected.
The U.S. House of Representatives is driven by seniority. House committee chairmen are appointed by the Speaker and can be removed at any time. Institutionally, the House is run by the majority party like a dictatorship. Nothing happens without the Speaker's permission.
The U.S. Senate is similarly encumbered by seniority although authority is diffused by arcane rules, procedures, coalitions, tradition and privilege. Individually, senators can obstruct legislation by placing "holds" on bills and appointments.
Both legislative bodies are besieged and manipulated by legions of lobbyists. While there is no exact figure, it's said paid registered lobbyists outnumber Members of Congress 250:1.
Congress might yet impeach Trump, but only after exhausting every possible option and the House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader benefit personally.
Ivanka Trump should show us her taxes as well. She managed to make her brand great again after traveling to China on government business and dining with the President. She received Chinese trademark approvals on the very day she dined with him. If Michelle Obama had done the same the Republicans would be hysterical over the conflict of interest. Are there not laws against operating a business from the White House? How is this conflict of interest allowed to continue?
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Ivanka Trump and her father are abusing the Whitehouse conflicts of interest in the most shameless way in history, disgusting.
Trump hotel, China trademarks and Trump continues to lie about the country he inherited.
Trump hotel, China trademarks and Trump continues to lie about the country he inherited.
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The obsession with Trump's tax returns seems excessively petty and voyeuristic. Since he doesn't want them released, let's assume the worst, whatever that may be. Let's assume that he will benefit enormously from whatever tax reform can be achieved. Wouldn't we still want to do whatever we can to improve the tax code and rates? To make it simpler and fairer? Wouldn't we still want to craft a reasonable, business-friendly and fair-to-the-individual policy? I don't care if Trump benefits personally as long as the policy moves, even marginally, in the direction of the only truly fair approach: a 15% /- flat tax with no deductions. Repeal and replace the tax code, because what we have now is an inefficient, unfair, cobbled together mess.
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The flawed flat tax plan aside (it doesn't work; check out Hungary), no policy happens in a vacuum. Any legislation proposed needs to be considered I'm the context of who's writing it and how they might benefit. Just because they might benefit wouldn't necessarily make it bad, but we deserve to know. Releasing his tax returns is the very least that Trump could do to give people confidence in the process.
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I wouldn't engage Trump to do anything on my behalf. He's forced on me by a confluence of idiotic people, idiotic apportionment, and idiotic vote-counting.
Then, consider yourself in the minority.
I guess transparency means nothing to you.
Doesn't whether or not this POTUS is up to his eyeballs in conflicts of interest, or worse?
It's bad enough Trump was elected on the basis of lying, badmouthing, and the most flagrant acts of hypocrisy to come down the like in a long time; we need to know if, and what kind of financial skeletons he has in his closest. That way, we'll know if his plans to change the tax laws will be fair, or even more stilted in favor of the 1%ers, or worse...Trump himself.
I guess transparency means nothing to you.
Doesn't whether or not this POTUS is up to his eyeballs in conflicts of interest, or worse?
It's bad enough Trump was elected on the basis of lying, badmouthing, and the most flagrant acts of hypocrisy to come down the like in a long time; we need to know if, and what kind of financial skeletons he has in his closest. That way, we'll know if his plans to change the tax laws will be fair, or even more stilted in favor of the 1%ers, or worse...Trump himself.
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Releasing his tax returns is just the tip of the Trump iceberg. There is no way to know which changes would benefit his children (whose Secret Service detail the US taxpayers are paying for) who are the trustees of the not-blind "trust" that we are supposed to believe (with no proof) is keeping Trump moral. Ha.
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Undergoing an audit does NOT, in any way, prevent anyone from releasing their tax information. The IRS has stated that repeatedly. Even Richard Nixon released his tax information while under an audit to resolve questions about his personal finances. Trump has much more to hide than Nixon ever did.
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To date, there is no evidence that Trump's tax returns are even under audit -- except his word, of course. And we all know the value of that commodity.
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As valuable as Trump University.
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Since I became a citizen in the US almost 40 years ago, I have learned the famous slogan that everything is uncertain except 2 things: death and taxes. I resent some people taking advantage of the tax system in the name of deductibles, depreciation, other baloneys, etc. I have always believed the tax system should be simplified. When I ran for US senate in the State of Washington several years ago, I suggested that there should be one payment to the Federal Government which would be distributed to the state, and according to some formulas, the state would pay out of that money to the county, city, etc.
As a Muslim, I love the Zakat imposed by Islam on everybody who is a candidate to pay 2.5 percent annually which includes:
Cash on hand and in bank accounts (savings, checking, etc.)
Refundable deposits (e.g. on rented apartment)
Non-delinquent loans (money you loaned to others)
Expected tax refund
Gold, silver, and precious items
Shares, stocks, bonds, IRA, pension plans, options, etc.
Business cash on hand and in banks plus invoices due
Net value of business inventory and trade goods
Net income you are entitled to as of Zakat due date (e.g. your next paycheck that you worked for already)
The first caliph Abu Bakr, following Prophet Muhammad’s death (PBUH), dispatched an army when some tribes claimed to be Muslim but refused to pay Zakat. It was the first army ever to be dispatched on behalf of the poor and other disadvantaged in the community.
As a Muslim, I love the Zakat imposed by Islam on everybody who is a candidate to pay 2.5 percent annually which includes:
Cash on hand and in bank accounts (savings, checking, etc.)
Refundable deposits (e.g. on rented apartment)
Non-delinquent loans (money you loaned to others)
Expected tax refund
Gold, silver, and precious items
Shares, stocks, bonds, IRA, pension plans, options, etc.
Business cash on hand and in banks plus invoices due
Net value of business inventory and trade goods
Net income you are entitled to as of Zakat due date (e.g. your next paycheck that you worked for already)
The first caliph Abu Bakr, following Prophet Muhammad’s death (PBUH), dispatched an army when some tribes claimed to be Muslim but refused to pay Zakat. It was the first army ever to be dispatched on behalf of the poor and other disadvantaged in the community.
So the Democrats in Congress won't do the right thing in terms of tax reform because Trump won't release his tax returns. No wonder Democrats are losing.
Is it even possible to imagine that Trump could support a tax plan, any tax plan, from which he does not envision personal (family) profit?? His history of blatant and continuous self-centered interest surely challenges any such attempt, even for those who are among the most imaginative.
So, of course, we should see those tax returns.
So, of course, we should see those tax returns.
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Is New York state going to approve release of Trump's state tax filings for the current and past years? This should be a good start to help the President release his tax information without further procrastination and false excuses.
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Mr. Trump. Just curious here. Since you refuse to show your tax returns, what if the tax payers refused to file their taxes?
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"No taxation without representation" was the battle cry of the Revolution.
Trump's America has a new slogan:
"No taxes or public returns for the President, trade marks from China for his daughter, all power to his son in law, and contracts for cronies."
Trump's America has a new slogan:
"No taxes or public returns for the President, trade marks from China for his daughter, all power to his son in law, and contracts for cronies."
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I bet he can't get that slogan on one of his Chinese hats.
Trump never thought he'd be elected. Never, ever. That wasn't his goal in running for office. Mostly, he just loved bullying people and making up stories. So he made up the tax audit story to tide him over until he lost the election. In fact, he made up a big book of other stories too -- with a chapter about putting coal miners back to work, and a chapter about better and cheaper health care for every person in American, and a chapter about knocking China down a peg or two, and more chapters for whatever else fired up his listeners. Now that he's the President, the big book is closed shut, and Trump doesn't us to remember that it ever existed. But we do! No more stories. Tell us the truth. Show us your tax returns!
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We need the initiation of national censure of Donald J. Trump for his debasement of the office of the President and our tax system. The GOP is blind to the problems Trump is creating. Why? The conundrum of corruption evident in Trump's Admin topped by his refusal to give up his Tax returns is unforgivable.
This reflects on the GOP certainly and they are tainted because of their inaction. These officers of the Govt feel untouchable. Are they?
This reflects on the GOP certainly and they are tainted because of their inaction. These officers of the Govt feel untouchable. Are they?
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no jobs
no wall
no healthcare
no infrastructure
no edu reform
no tax returns
all you will get from him is war death and debt
have a nice day
The Great Swamp in D.C. has just gotten a new Ogre! Unfortunately, this Ogre is not the good-hearted from the kid's movie, but a real deal: the misogynist who pledges to protect women's rights, the lying real estate agent promising thousands of jobs in dying industries, tax cheater cutting tax rates for himself only and his new cronies. Trump, the Great Ogre, is what we are stuck with and the best thing to do is to RESIST and influence moderate republicans.
Why would a man so proud of how much he owns, earns, and saves on his taxes, owing to his being so clever, be unwilling to provide proof that backs him up?
Why should he release his tax returns to please his enemies? They will never be satisfied anyway, but will pounce on every deduction like raw meat.
“If you have to keep a secret it's because you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.”
― David Nicholls, One Day
― David Nicholls, One Day
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Hiding something?
The only thing Trump is interested in on tax reform is his taxes disappearing.
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Now that house members are jumping ship, they should not be welcomed with opened arms.
They have known full well that Trump is unqualified to be President, yet they have grinned and smiled and went along with his crap. He has run out of bullets, ignorance is now on full display.
They have known full well that Trump is unqualified to be President, yet they have grinned and smiled and went along with his crap. He has run out of bullets, ignorance is now on full display.
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So the Democrats won't cooperate with the tax code re-write? Are you serious? Do you think the GOP care less whether the Democrats cooperate or not? Did they care that the Dems didn't support Gorsuch? The Democratic party are just like the rest of us - passengers on the Trump train, watching the 1% and their GOP toadies loot the country while the train hurtles into the abyss.
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Then repeal The Affordable Care Act!
To put it another way:
"Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?"
-Mr. Blonde, Reservoir Dogs
To put it another way:
"Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?"
-Mr. Blonde, Reservoir Dogs
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“You’re not going to change someone’s opinion of Trump merely by what’s in his tax returns,” Mr. Luntz said.
Mr. Luntz may be too young to remember what happened to Vice-President Agnews, President Nixon, and the "silent majority" when their tax returns saw the light of day. Politicians know instinctively that they owe their jobs voters's sense of fairness, all things being equal.
Mr. Luntz may be too young to remember what happened to Vice-President Agnews, President Nixon, and the "silent majority" when their tax returns saw the light of day. Politicians know instinctively that they owe their jobs voters's sense of fairness, all things being equal.
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Call me jaded, but I just don't think he wanted to become president to help people.
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Yep, it's becoming blatantly obvious that Trump wanted to be president so he could rewrite our laws and regulations to benefit his business interests, as well as buy the approval he desperately craves from wealthy elites.
Aristotle Onassis tried to buy his way in by marrying Jackie Kennedy, herself a wealthy elite and the widow of a president. He never got the acceptance he craved, either.
Old Money will NEVER accept nouveau riche barbarians like Trump and Onassis. Aristocrats are born, not made.
Aristotle Onassis tried to buy his way in by marrying Jackie Kennedy, herself a wealthy elite and the widow of a president. He never got the acceptance he craved, either.
Old Money will NEVER accept nouveau riche barbarians like Trump and Onassis. Aristocrats are born, not made.
I don't think he wanted to be president.
He would have preferred if HRC had also crushed him in the electoral college and not just with The American People's Vote.
That way he could have done his favorite thing, Tweet childish comments from the peanut gallery like the spoiled brat he's always been.
He would have preferred if HRC had also crushed him in the electoral college and not just with The American People's Vote.
That way he could have done his favorite thing, Tweet childish comments from the peanut gallery like the spoiled brat he's always been.
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Transparency is not part of this administration. Unfortunately no one has the smoking gun to get rid of Him.
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Just like Obama could have produced his birth certificate in second, and did not, Trump won't release his tax returns. It give the opposition a meaningless thing to bark about. I will tell you something else, you will learn nothing from looking at Trumps tax returns.
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you will learn nothing from looking at Trumps tax returns.
the ONLY way one can make that statement is to have seen his tax papers
the ONLY way
so, unless you have, your statement is ridiculous
the ONLY way one can make that statement is to have seen his tax papers
the ONLY way
so, unless you have, your statement is ridiculous
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He gives the appearance of being a money launderer for the Russians. America has a need to know what is in his tax returns. No tax reform until we have the information needed to make informed decisions.
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I hope the public DIN will get louder and louder...and the revelation...will
be...Trump's Taxes will show why he has been in collusion...with Putin..
be...Trump's Taxes will show why he has been in collusion...with Putin..
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As I recall, the USA was founded on a tax issue. Looks like another major tax issue has emerged. This time, no representation without taxation!
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Actually, democrat John Ossoff's expected victory in the Georgia 6th district special election tomorrow will do more to doom Trump's tax cut for the wealthy than any other factor as republican members of Congress run for cover.
Trump need not disclose his tax returns to pass the tax bill. Trump can recuse himself from signing the bill. If both houses passes the bill with two thirds majority, then the bill will become a law.
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Donald Trump, Jr. says his dad won’t release his tax returns because if he did people would get to see them.
That’s what he told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.
When asked why his father has not released his tax returns as presidential candidates have traditionally done, Trump Jr. said, “Because he’s got a 12,000-page tax return that would create … financial auditors out of every person in the country asking questions that would detract from (his father’s) main message.”
That’s what he told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.
When asked why his father has not released his tax returns as presidential candidates have traditionally done, Trump Jr. said, “Because he’s got a 12,000-page tax return that would create … financial auditors out of every person in the country asking questions that would detract from (his father’s) main message.”
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"Mr. Trump [said] he might return to health care before tax cuts."
President Trump's attitude towards the presidency is still unserious. Even as a younger man he had been unwilling to sacrifice much to achieve something bigger. At 70 it may be much more difficult for him to GIVE UP something significant to DO WELL at the most coveted job in the world. It may not have sunk in YET the greatness of what he has just achieved against great odds.
People around him are absolutely no help.
Perhaps Trump should visit GHW Bush when Bush41 is able to receive visitors; request both Bill Clinton & David Gergen to join them to have a serious, extended chat. If those trio were to drill in him the importance & seriousness of his job, he might change his attitude & take his job seriously - only a faint hope, however.
He should go for a single payer healthcare plan, if that can't be achieved, leave ACA as such but try to add a public option.
"Broadening Base & Lowering Rates" are the worst kind of tax reform. Leave the rates as now. Try to raise revenue by cutting unnecessary deductions, etc. Eliminate carried interest clause. Cut corporate tax to 25-30%. Cut payroll tax on the first $20K to 1-2%; eliminate the cap but cut to 1% on over $150K
If the president tries to achieve these things, which would be hardly difficult for him with the force of his personality, he would be seen as among the greatest. If not he may well end up as the first president to be impeached & ousted!
President Trump's attitude towards the presidency is still unserious. Even as a younger man he had been unwilling to sacrifice much to achieve something bigger. At 70 it may be much more difficult for him to GIVE UP something significant to DO WELL at the most coveted job in the world. It may not have sunk in YET the greatness of what he has just achieved against great odds.
People around him are absolutely no help.
Perhaps Trump should visit GHW Bush when Bush41 is able to receive visitors; request both Bill Clinton & David Gergen to join them to have a serious, extended chat. If those trio were to drill in him the importance & seriousness of his job, he might change his attitude & take his job seriously - only a faint hope, however.
He should go for a single payer healthcare plan, if that can't be achieved, leave ACA as such but try to add a public option.
"Broadening Base & Lowering Rates" are the worst kind of tax reform. Leave the rates as now. Try to raise revenue by cutting unnecessary deductions, etc. Eliminate carried interest clause. Cut corporate tax to 25-30%. Cut payroll tax on the first $20K to 1-2%; eliminate the cap but cut to 1% on over $150K
If the president tries to achieve these things, which would be hardly difficult for him with the force of his personality, he would be seen as among the greatest. If not he may well end up as the first president to be impeached & ousted!
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Showing his taxes shouldn't be the issue. And the point is not how little, if any at all, taxes he paid, but the reasons why he didn't pay. That is why we need tax reform, because the deductions, exemptions, waivers, special rulings, and most of all the 'irs tax laws' in effect that provide the exemptions from taxable income is not just unfair, but immoral. Who do you blame for the $trillions that businesses park off shore and don't pay any taxes on those profits, or the Congress who passed those laws. Neither Congress or the businesses have the common working person in mind. The time is now for change.
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Long-time conservative commentator George Will, who resigned from the GOP because of Trump last July, certainly feels there is a lot to be learned from the tax returns.
"Trump Sr. can end the speculation by providing information. If, however, he continues his tax information stonewall, it will be clear that he finds the speculation less damaging than the truth would be, which itself is important information."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-entangled-with-russia-is-tru...
"Trump Sr. can end the speculation by providing information. If, however, he continues his tax information stonewall, it will be clear that he finds the speculation less damaging than the truth would be, which itself is important information."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-entangled-with-russia-is-tru...
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Anybody remember "Donald Trump's Contract With The American Voter", the outline of his first 100 days that Trump released prior to the election? Here are the stated legislative goals for the first 100 days and what's actually happened:
- "Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act (no legislative action)
- "End The Offshoring Act" (no legislative action)
- "American Energy & Infrastructure Act" (no legislative action)
- "School Choice And Education Opportunity Act" (no legislative action)
- "Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act" (failed)
- "Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act" (no legislative action)
- "End Illegal Immigration Act" (no legislative action)
- "Restoring Community Safety Act" (no legislative action)
- "Restoring National Security Act" (no legislative action)
- "Clean up Corruption in Washington Act" (no legislative action)
That's 1 failure and 9 no actions. Has there ever been a president with a worse legislative track record for the first 100 days? Most of these items have not even been discussed. Why even bother writing up a list of goals if Trump had no intention of pushing for them?
Executive actions to not a president make. Just ask Obama. You'll notice his landmark *legislative* achievement, the ACA, still stands while many of his executive orders have been wiped away.
- "Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act (no legislative action)
- "End The Offshoring Act" (no legislative action)
- "American Energy & Infrastructure Act" (no legislative action)
- "School Choice And Education Opportunity Act" (no legislative action)
- "Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act" (failed)
- "Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act" (no legislative action)
- "End Illegal Immigration Act" (no legislative action)
- "Restoring Community Safety Act" (no legislative action)
- "Restoring National Security Act" (no legislative action)
- "Clean up Corruption in Washington Act" (no legislative action)
That's 1 failure and 9 no actions. Has there ever been a president with a worse legislative track record for the first 100 days? Most of these items have not even been discussed. Why even bother writing up a list of goals if Trump had no intention of pushing for them?
Executive actions to not a president make. Just ask Obama. You'll notice his landmark *legislative* achievement, the ACA, still stands while many of his executive orders have been wiped away.
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Trump's 2016 tax returns which, with an extension must be filed in October 2017, would not be under audit just as his 2015 returns, which were probably filed in October 2016, were not under audit at the time of the election or possibly even now.
This is just another in his long list of lies - let's call them what the are - that his supporters and we all should care about. The serious question is: WHAT IS HE HIDING?
This is just another in his long list of lies - let's call them what the are - that his supporters and we all should care about. The serious question is: WHAT IS HE HIDING?
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I want to see Trump's tax returns, but I wonder if anything produced by Trump can be trusted - even something signed under penalty of perjury.
And I don't understand why he doesn't release the returns if he has nothing to hide. After all, wouldn't a ridiculously complex return such as Trump's, taking advantage of every loophole available, prove his point that our tax code is too complicated and needs reform?
And I don't understand why he doesn't release the returns if he has nothing to hide. After all, wouldn't a ridiculously complex return such as Trump's, taking advantage of every loophole available, prove his point that our tax code is too complicated and needs reform?
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Once again, the Republicans will be paralyzed because they cannot agree on anything substantive on tax reform, just as they couldn't with health care. Now that they have both ravening oligarchs and their financially strapped Trump voters to satisfy, there is no common ground. The GOP is collapsing under its own weight. That said, Democrats should definitely keep the heat on Trump to reveal his tax returns. We should know what he has to gain or lose.
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Maybe the Russians and/or Wikileaks will send forth a slew of Trump tax records. I am sure they have copies of it.
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Rachel Maddow had a huge scoop getting ready to reveal Trump's taxes from a few years ago. It turns out Trump pays a higher percent than President Obama, a big nothing burger. Democrats need to move closer to the center as they are alienating Blue collar middle class Democrats. The Party is refusing to budge and instead trying to sell Liberalism to a center right America.
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Must be why he is so reticent to release these returns.
They would clearly show he is as pure as the driven snow, a shining beacon of fairness and responsibility, the paragon of animals.
That must be why he refuses to disclose them.
Hey, I have some lovely Florida swampland Mara-la-go adjacent you should take a look at.
They would clearly show he is as pure as the driven snow, a shining beacon of fairness and responsibility, the paragon of animals.
That must be why he refuses to disclose them.
Hey, I have some lovely Florida swampland Mara-la-go adjacent you should take a look at.
Mr. President;
Simply embrace the Four Agreements of Miguel Ruiz.
1. Be Impeccable with your Word
Speak with integrity.
2. Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you.
3. Don’t Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want.
4. Always Do Your Best
Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick.
Simply embrace the Four Agreements of Miguel Ruiz.
1. Be Impeccable with your Word
Speak with integrity.
2. Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you.
3. Don’t Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want.
4. Always Do Your Best
Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick.
Mr. Trump and the details of policy are like matter and anti-matter.
Although my understanding of physics is a little outdated and rusty my basic thinking is that in one form they can exist in the same space but completely ignore each others presence.In another form they collide with explosive and cataclysmic consequences.
In the case of tax reform policy there are infinite details and primary, secondary, tertiary etc consequences. Trump will be left out of the discussions and will only be wheeled out to sign whatever passes through Congress possibly with a Pence tie-breaker.
Don't hold your breath and given the Republican track record a gestation period of 4 to 8 years would be a good thing.
Although my understanding of physics is a little outdated and rusty my basic thinking is that in one form they can exist in the same space but completely ignore each others presence.In another form they collide with explosive and cataclysmic consequences.
In the case of tax reform policy there are infinite details and primary, secondary, tertiary etc consequences. Trump will be left out of the discussions and will only be wheeled out to sign whatever passes through Congress possibly with a Pence tie-breaker.
Don't hold your breath and given the Republican track record a gestation period of 4 to 8 years would be a good thing.
Trump said he'd release his taxes once the audit is done. So when will it be completed? This seems like the world's longest audit. Get it done and then he has one less excuse for not releasing his taxes.
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There is no Audit, Trump is technically insolvent which is why he won't divest his properties. If he was to unwind his real estate holdings he would incur a huge loss. That's why his loans are from Deutsche Bank's private bank division as opposed to the merchant bank. Remember, this is the same guy who could only run a casino for one year before declaring bankruptcy...
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Multiple choice quiz:
1. Trump is phenomenally stupid about the political damage here
2. He's hiding something
3. Trump and other Republicons want us to focus on this and not their wholesale destruction of environmental protection and public and worker safety protections
4. All of the above.
1. Trump is phenomenally stupid about the political damage here
2. He's hiding something
3. Trump and other Republicons want us to focus on this and not their wholesale destruction of environmental protection and public and worker safety protections
4. All of the above.
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4. All of the above, and more
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On The Issues! I totally agree with #Trump regarding the abuse of H-1B visas used to undercut US workers. Corporations SAY they can't get enough workers here, but it's all about making a bigger profit by hiring foreign workers for a lot less money. Trump might be going against his best interests on this one. He's used these workers, and he's seen the abuse that has actually created an entire industry in INDIA driven by soliciting and placing foreign workers that replace all of the workers in IT departments etc. It's not about finding SKILLED workers -- it's about finding CHEAPER wages and no benefits etc. to make more profits for the corporate investors. Something Clinton knows ALL ABOUT but would not have lifted a finger to stop.
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Not sure what Clinton (any of them) have to do with this. Leave her (them?) out of it.
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And neither will Trump! Once the Bottom-line Preachers get a hold of him, he'll vacillate and it'll be business as usual. Its all about the profits in the GOP. Serving the Freemarket Gods.
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another red herring
This is the definition of POLITICS. Making legislation a PERSONAL issue is supreme selfishness and myopic at best. It proves that liberals cant lead because they have no wisdom or maturity to separate THEMSELVES from policy. They are like children that never got past 8th grade.
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It's not personal. We need to know if we can trust the president and as long as he doesn't want to provide his tax returns, we cannot trust him. He is obviously a crook and a liar.
Trump made it personal when he lied about releasing his tax reports.
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The idea that democrats won't engage in tax reform because of Trump's taxes is the most idiotic thing we've heard from them in a while. The only principle involves their meeting their professional commitments, and they're doing a fine job showing their lack of it.
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Trump lied in order to get what he wanted, to become the most powerful man on planet earth. Lying has worked very well for him in life. Is there no Aesop story for Trump? Is there any justice in the end?
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There is a lot of baloney in every Trump sandwich. His financial disclosures were minimal. If he owes money to foreign countries we should know that.
Looks like China is already getting favors and vice versa with his investments there, and Ivanka's merchandise. The sons run his business, while he is able to withdraw as much as he wants. Mar-a-lago is getting to be a casino,
They are likely violating the Emolument Clause.
Looks like China is already getting favors and vice versa with his investments there, and Ivanka's merchandise. The sons run his business, while he is able to withdraw as much as he wants. Mar-a-lago is getting to be a casino,
They are likely violating the Emolument Clause.
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When President Trump does anything that annoys or outrages the"liberals", it delights his base instincts and his base support. Regardless of what is or isn't in his returns, his base is pleased and couldn't care less about any complicated details; he is doing something that makes the other side angry, and that's good enough for those who voted for him.
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The group you're calling Trump's base is tiny, though. He couldn't win an election with just them. He won (or achieved a sufficient number of votes to win the electoral college, rather) by convincing a lot of people who have significant reservations about him to vote for him. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump but are still bothered by his lying about releasing his tax returns.
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If the shoe fits, wear it.
When Trump's critics keep making wild unsubstantiated claims and do things like claiming he's not their president and/or he should be impeached, his base has no choice but to laugh and not take them seriously. After a while, his critics start to look like headless chickens running around. They really do look that ridiculous.
When Trump's critics keep making wild unsubstantiated claims and do things like claiming he's not their president and/or he should be impeached, his base has no choice but to laugh and not take them seriously. After a while, his critics start to look like headless chickens running around. They really do look that ridiculous.
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I just heard some of Trump's speech thanking the people of Wisconsin for their unwavering love and support.
Hmmm.
How about thanking New Yorkers who helped pay for the PILOTs (payments in lieu of taxes) his construction projects were done with? What is he doing for his home state?
Hmmm.
How about thanking New Yorkers who helped pay for the PILOTs (payments in lieu of taxes) his construction projects were done with? What is he doing for his home state?
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Newsflash! Wisconsin is NOT full of love and support for Trump!!!
Some misguided fools, perhaps. But trump is an even greater fool if he's counting on love and support in WI.
Some misguided fools, perhaps. But trump is an even greater fool if he's counting on love and support in WI.
I'm confident that Trump's personal returns were audited every year. If he complied with the Internal Revenue Code and, as a result of legal offsets, had no taxable income, that's not his problem. Legal tax offsets, such as the deduction of accelerated depreciation for physical assets, are enacted to promote societal objectives.
Don't like it? Don't blame Trump; blame the Internal Revenue Code. I'm sure The New York Times Company uses every possible tax angle.
Don't like it? Don't blame Trump; blame the Internal Revenue Code. I'm sure The New York Times Company uses every possible tax angle.
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Very true...and what better man to use as an example of the broken and skewed system then the sitting president!? Can't think of any other who could serve as a better poster-child for epic...no, bigly tax reforms.
Nice theorizing but we need to see the evidence, i.e. Trump's tax returns.
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Seems clear to me why Trump will never voluntarily release his taxes. He doesn't want us to see that he does not pay taxes (because he's "smart", remember?), that he is not charitable, and that he is beholden to banks and oligarchs.
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No taxes, no peace. He's finished.
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Interesting how the stock market is getting hit hard now that all this news is coming out about the Trump tax overhaul being just more Trump hot air. Wall street thought that Santa Clause was elected President. Well it seems they just found out that Santa Clause doesnt exist. Its just a childrens story, like Trump's savy deal making abilities.
"Mr. Trump shot back at his critics on Twitter on Sunday, suggesting that the protesters had been paid and that they were sore losers."
"Sore losers", is supposed to make everyone who despises Trump's dishonesty seem small. I have Margo-Largo and you don't.
Suggesting that the protesters were paid is absurd--as usual, just another distraction. We all know that paid "protesters" carry the kind of fancy printed placards and wear the fancy hats that Trump's people do.
For today's example, see; https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/us/politics/trump-voters-swing-state....
"Sore losers", is supposed to make everyone who despises Trump's dishonesty seem small. I have Margo-Largo and you don't.
Suggesting that the protesters were paid is absurd--as usual, just another distraction. We all know that paid "protesters" carry the kind of fancy printed placards and wear the fancy hats that Trump's people do.
For today's example, see; https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/us/politics/trump-voters-swing-state....
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Well the main reason the Trump camp prints those signs is to ensure proper spelling...
Ive read many handwritten Trump support signs..."Learn Enlish, or go home!" Was one of my favs last summer.
Ive read many handwritten Trump support signs..."Learn Enlish, or go home!" Was one of my favs last summer.
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Trump acts like Lucy with the football in the Peanuts cartoon series, but is not near as funny. His supporters are like Charlie Brown in that they keep thinking this time he won't trick them. I like Peanuts much more than this sad cartoon series and can't wait until it is over.
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It should be crystal clear by now that Trump, conman and chief, has no idea what he is doing. So far all we have seen is a dismantling of government. To make America great requires plans, and plans require putting things together, not taking them apart.
It sounds like releasing them would threaten more than just that.
This is highly indicative of president Tramp's lack of knowledge through reading what amounts to political commentary... Charles Schultz's Peanuts made famous the observation: "We have seen the enemy and it is us." Our illegitimate president truly is his own worst enemy. He will never figure this out, and won't believe anyone who tries to tell him. It will be up to the future to restore America to what the Founding Fathers worked so hard to create, assuming enough of our country and its principles survive this horrible nightmare.
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"We have seen the enemy and it is us" is from Pogo, not Peanuts.
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The "enemy" observation was made by Walt Kelly, the creator of "Pogo", not by Charles Schultz. Just as applicable to Mr. Trump, though.
But don't wish too hard to restore the Founding Fathers' America. Remember that it was one in which slavery was an integral institution, and only landowners of an approved race, religion, and gender could vote.
But don't wish too hard to restore the Founding Fathers' America. Remember that it was one in which slavery was an integral institution, and only landowners of an approved race, religion, and gender could vote.
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This is similar, in my view, to Obama's tack regarding his citizenship/birth certificate. The more the right obsessed about that the more cagey Obama became vis-a-vis the demands that he release the long form. Obama had the truth, and the proof, to silence the right but chose not to for what seems, at least to me, an obvious reason: the more the opposition agitates about the meaningless, the less that will notice the truly meaningful things that they would normally be apoplectic about...
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Yes meaningful things; like is he beholden to Russia.
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The motive may be the same, but Obama's non-citizenship was an invented canard. Trump's tax returns may contain information revealing to whom he is beholden, how honest he has been in various statements, and how he might benefit from certain changes in the tax laws.
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Trump is hiding his tax returns because (a) he is enjoying demonstrating his imperial independence from the little people he rules over, (b) he doesn't want us to know how beholden he is personally to foreign countries, particularly Russia, (c) he doesn't want us to know how little his net worth actually is. Trump has claimed that his net worth is based on how he feels. Trump values a property at $50 million for his net worth purposes, but $1 million for tax assessment purposes. Trump's charitable foundation violates the law by, e.g., paying for portraits of Trump. Trump's DC hotel just got a $32million tax credit despite violating the terms under which it got the hotel lease. We, the American people, want and need to see Trump's tax returns.
This president's love of easy money is only surpassed by his love of free stuff, like the $36 million taxpayer-funded trips to Mara Lago. Let's not forget that President Ka-Ching is being sued for violating the Constitution's emoluments clause intended to prevent a president from taking gifts from foreign powers, such as the hugely profitable trademarks granted to Trump's daughter by China. The public has a right to now if the administration is backing a tax plan that will enrich Trump, who is already the most ethically compromised president in the history of our nation.
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In anticipation of future elections, progressives in California are working toward moving our primary from June to a date more closely following New Hampshire’s.
Additionally, in order to appear on the California primary ballot prospective candidates will be required to release tax returns for the previous five years.
Now, will a sufficient number of other states find ways in which to forestall a repeat of 2016 debacle?
I do hope so.
Additionally, in order to appear on the California primary ballot prospective candidates will be required to release tax returns for the previous five years.
Now, will a sufficient number of other states find ways in which to forestall a repeat of 2016 debacle?
I do hope so.
Congress should pass tax reform or not pass tax reform on the basis of its merits, apart from whether or not it benefits or doesn't benefit any one individual (even when that one individual is the president). There are lots of good reasons for Trump to release his tax returns, but, at the end of the day, there's (apparently) no law requiring him to release them and he was elected even though he defied (maybe BECAUSE he defied) decades-long practice to do so. Saying you won't vote for tax reform because he hasn't released his returns seems totally silly to me. He is the owner of commercial real estate. Just assume that tax laws that benefit owners of commercial real estate benefit Donald Trump. And lets move on.
I don't care to see his tax return. The constant complaining and demands to see the return are really just an illustration of how devoid of ideas the Democratic Party is.
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Are you a real person from the US because that not how you spell Jersey there is a y not an i. But the latest polls say 74% of Americans let me say that again AMERICANS want to see his taxes. It is important for a variety of reasons but mostly he wants tax reform and we don't want him enriching himself further than he already is. It's not a Democratic thing it's an American thing we have the right to know. The longer he holds out the worse it will be for him and the Republican Party as a whole.
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This is not an insignificant gripe. The administration - possibly Trump, as well - is under investigation for potential ties to Russia. This isn't just a bunch of rabble from the proletariat trying to complain about the successes of some rich guy. This has ACTUAL national security implications. And it's unfortunate that so many fellow citizens can't see that. It DOES, however, add to the notion that the citizenry gets the government they deserve.
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The lack of interest is really just an illustration of how naïve some of Trump's supporters are. That said, if you don't want to see the returns, no one will force you to.
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I have never seen a good explanation from Trump supporters as to why he should be exempt from releasing his tax returns when every president from the past 40 years has done so, even though not required by law. WHY make Trump an exception? Is it because he has properties overseas and investors from hostile nations? That's even MORE reason to see HIS tax returns. He may be the single president in the last 40 years whose tax returns we have MOST needed to see!
I see this as a pattern of Teflon that is just astounding. All sorts of things that would be howled about if it were done by Obama or Clinton just get regularly excused for Trump. And I thought REAGAN and CLINTON were Teflon!
I see this as a pattern of Teflon that is just astounding. All sorts of things that would be howled about if it were done by Obama or Clinton just get regularly excused for Trump. And I thought REAGAN and CLINTON were Teflon!
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Taxes are PRIVATE. No one can be forced to release their tax return.
If you cheat on your taxes, you have to deal with the IRS... but it's between you and the IRS and not the general public.
I can understand why Trump will not release his tax returns: He doesn't want done to him what Harry Reid did to Mitt Romney with lies and innuendos.
If you cheat on your taxes, you have to deal with the IRS... but it's between you and the IRS and not the general public.
I can understand why Trump will not release his tax returns: He doesn't want done to him what Harry Reid did to Mitt Romney with lies and innuendos.
Why he should be exempt? Because he's white, male, and rich.
There is absolutely no reason to trust conservatives on any fiscal and economic matters. The 2008 crisis was proof that conservative deregulation and tax cuts lets capitalism run rampant, shifting so much money to the top that the rest collapse under a household debt burden that hit a record 100% GDP.
It was Clinton who balanced the budget, and Obama who cut the deficit by nearly two-thirds after the crisis with a combination of tax hikes and a sequester.
So let the Democrats put forward their plan, to raise marginal income tax rates on the rich, remove the cap on Social Security, eliminate special treatment for capital gains and dividends above a threshold, etc. In general, raise taxes on those who benefit most from the bifurcated economy we have.
It was Clinton who balanced the budget, and Obama who cut the deficit by nearly two-thirds after the crisis with a combination of tax hikes and a sequester.
So let the Democrats put forward their plan, to raise marginal income tax rates on the rich, remove the cap on Social Security, eliminate special treatment for capital gains and dividends above a threshold, etc. In general, raise taxes on those who benefit most from the bifurcated economy we have.
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if Trump's tax dodges become too widely know he is afraid that even Republicans will be forced to go after them during tax reform, and his empire begins to crumble.
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Trump is not releasing his taxes 'cause he knows that that will give clear evidence of the many reasons for impeachment including the obvious conflict of interest. The pressure has to continue to get him to release them. Since our constitution fails to give the people the ability to remove from office an insane person like him, the other impeachment clauses are the only hope. This cannot go on for 4 years, not the US or the world can deal with such an embarrassment.
If Trump wants us to return to the 50's ad 60's, how about returning us to that tax code. Increase taxes and the upper marginal rates. Make it so that it's more profitable to invest and grow than maximizing profits.
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Simple tax reform:
Eliminate all forms of taxes on individuals. Cut salaries by an equivalent amount. - This will lower labor based costs and reduce labor based savings from offshoring, hence keeping jobs in the US and making products competitive.
Next only two taxes:
First a tax on business revenue. - This will ensure that tax revenue is linked to GDP, not payroll which is a shrinking base.
Second a tax on global corporate income reduced by taxes paid in other jurisdictions. - This will eliminate advantages from inversion.
Eliminate all forms of taxes on individuals. Cut salaries by an equivalent amount. - This will lower labor based costs and reduce labor based savings from offshoring, hence keeping jobs in the US and making products competitive.
Next only two taxes:
First a tax on business revenue. - This will ensure that tax revenue is linked to GDP, not payroll which is a shrinking base.
Second a tax on global corporate income reduced by taxes paid in other jurisdictions. - This will eliminate advantages from inversion.
Just remember -- Trump isn't paying for all those multi-million dollar getaways to Florida every weekend -- you are!
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Trump’s not releasing his tax returns after stating he would do so during the campaign once the audit was completed—was there really an audit—is just one of the ways in which this man lies constantly. He’d rather spend the tax payers’ money to spend a major part of the week at Mar-a-Lago playing golf, where he apparently makes major decisions around the dinner table in his resort’s restaurant that may well jeopardize the nation’s security and well-being. Strange man, this Trump, who wants us to believe he has a plan, but who’s refrain on most matters is “who knew [it—supply your own term here] was so complicated.”
What is the old childhood jingle? “Liar, liar pants on fire.” This phrase is definitely apt in being applied to Trump; isn’t it time the news media start calling Trump’s remarks when applicable as lies.
What is the old childhood jingle? “Liar, liar pants on fire.” This phrase is definitely apt in being applied to Trump; isn’t it time the news media start calling Trump’s remarks when applicable as lies.
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This is a Bernie Sanders Faux Issue.
DJT's taxes have nothing to do with border security, jobs, etc....
These are do-nothing Bernie Protesters paid to protest.
DJT's taxes have nothing to do with border security, jobs, etc....
These are do-nothing Bernie Protesters paid to protest.
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Bernie Sanders is too cheap to pay anyone. Only Republicans have to pay protesters. And what are you afraid of by the way?
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Paid to protest? Where do I sign up?
Bright strategy. Show us you are not enrich yourself. It is easy for people to understand.
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Only the little people pay taxes -- Leona Trump.
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"Trump's Unreleased Taxes Threaten Yet Another Campaign Promise"
No, the members of the Democratic party in Congress are obstructing yet another Trump campaign promise. Do you think the citizens of the US are stupid? I don't care what's in his taxes, I'm not the IRS. If his taxes pass muster with the IRS that's good enough for me. I do have a problem if the Democrats use that as an excuse not to work for the people.
No, the members of the Democratic party in Congress are obstructing yet another Trump campaign promise. Do you think the citizens of the US are stupid? I don't care what's in his taxes, I'm not the IRS. If his taxes pass muster with the IRS that's good enough for me. I do have a problem if the Democrats use that as an excuse not to work for the people.
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I ask one more time: Where have you been for the last eight years while the Repubs have done Nothing to help the average American? The Dems are not working for the people? Seriously?!
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I guess you haven't noticed yet, Trump has a majority in BOTH the house and senate.
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How can the D's be obstructing Trump's campaign promise not to release his taxes? Judging from your comment the answer is" Yes, I think that US citizens suffer from the G.U.S. syndrome. ( Gullible-Uninformed- Stupid)
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I am assuming, like many Americans, that this president is hiding a lot of unsavory dealings, and that is why he won't show his taxes. No one believes anymore that it's because he's under audit. Stop lying Mr. Trump. Step up and be a man. Show us you the proof that you want us to do as you say not as you do - we should all pay because we are poor losers, and you are not and don't pay. I'm sure there is a dacha in Russia someplace that your entire family of disgusting crooks can live in after we run you out of the USA on a rail.
It really is hilarious how this country for just about 2 years now had the option to vote for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Both by the voters either totally despised or well liked resulting in just about a 50/50 vote distribution. Then, after Trump was the legal winner, nothing but blogs that he was too close to Russia, or too inhuman in terms of controlling illegal immigrants, or messing things up with respect to Health Care, or this past week too dangerous in attacking Syria or dropping a big bomb in Afghanistan or perhaps soon doing the same thing in N.Korea. Now massive movements it seems to have him do his taxes the right way (whatever that means). Nothing wrong with all these issues and complaints but guess what, he is gaining strength by the day, better interactions with the EU or UK or China or Australia and who knows what's next. In short, all these complaints these past 2 years have accomplished absolutely nothing which tells me that a united opposition against Trump is loose sand and, as per the most beautiful song, is "Blowing in the Wind." It shows America as a lost and highly incompetent spirit. That is the real issue rather than having Trump as our President - totally irrelevant. America indeed is in trouble big time.
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"Now massive movements it seems to have him do his taxes the right way"
Lots of opinion for someone who's entirely unclear on the concept.
Lots of opinion for someone who's entirely unclear on the concept.
The only strength he is gathering here is fodder for the Comics Lounge. Could you guys make a funnier parody of The West Wing? Stop it ! We are going to die laughing.
"(A)ccording to the Republican pollster Frank Luntz ... the issue is a low priority ... 'You’re not going to change someone’s opinion of Trump merely by what’s in his tax returns,' Mr. Luntz said." So, if the contents of his tax returns won't hurt him with his supporters, what ELSE is Trump afraid of?
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The plummeting value of the Trump Brand.
dogyeller - What makes you so sure that he is afraid?
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As we continue to pull our hair out over the national disaster that is the Trump Presidency, and with more than ample reason, this item from NBC News is worth reading.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696
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Don the Con must have something to hide. Why else refuse to release his returns? How could the Congress write new tax legislation when no one would know how this would benefit the president and many others of the 1%?
Show me the money.
Show me the money.
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Personal and Corporate tax codes desperately need fixing, and mostly everyone knows it (maybe not Bernie). Yes, Trump very likely uses every loophole possible (not illegal) and probably pays little or not taxes. All the more reason to simplify the code and get some transparency. Should he issue his returns, maybe. Will he, probably not. Do I care, not too much. The Democrats will block tax reform regardless, so no real point to this partisan dance.
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Mr Trump's tax return for 2016 is NOT under audit. So it is CLEARLY available for immediate release. I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to see the web of debts, income, ties, and obligations that the current White House occupant has woven for himself. It is an absolute requirement that this occur BEFORE the "tax reform" proposals come to Congress. It will be interesting to trace the links between the provisions and the President's tax situation. E.g. The Alternative Minimum Tax that produced a large proportion of the only taxes known to be paid by Trump.
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Every American should figure out what they made over the last 8 years and what they paid in income taxes over that last 8 years and consider this: in that same period General Electric has made billions and billions and billions of dollars in profits and paid absolutely nothing in income taxes.
Not only has General Electric and dozens and dozens of other billion dollar companies not paid any taxes, but, their tax position is such that it's actually a revenue stream. Think about that. General Electric makes money every time it files.
General Motors made $7.7 billion in 2015. Their tax bill for 2015 was negative $1.9 billion. That's right. They made $7.7 billion, and they get a future write off of $1.9 billion.
So when Trump and the GOP want to overhaul the tax code, just remember that someone making $5,000 a year in this country pays more in income taxes than General Electric, and dozens of others like them have in the last 8.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/03/07/27-giant-profita...
Not only has General Electric and dozens and dozens of other billion dollar companies not paid any taxes, but, their tax position is such that it's actually a revenue stream. Think about that. General Electric makes money every time it files.
General Motors made $7.7 billion in 2015. Their tax bill for 2015 was negative $1.9 billion. That's right. They made $7.7 billion, and they get a future write off of $1.9 billion.
So when Trump and the GOP want to overhaul the tax code, just remember that someone making $5,000 a year in this country pays more in income taxes than General Electric, and dozens of others like them have in the last 8.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/03/07/27-giant-profita...
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Because we do not know about Trump's taxes, it is entirely possible that he is paying little to no taxes. In which case, Trump is using tax payer money to pay for his extravagant number of trips to Florida. Why has no one raised the point that tax monies to which he has not contributed are paying the millions of dollars necessary for him to travel in luxury and for his family to maintain a separate luxury residence in New York?
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If he is paying little or no taxes, it simply means that he is taking advantage of every LEGAL loophole.
If he was doing anything illegal regarding his taxes, the IRS would be doing more than simply auditing him.
If he was doing anything illegal regarding his taxes, the IRS would be doing more than simply auditing him.
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The lawmakers not only need to see Trump’s tax returns but also the tax returns of his daughter and son-in-law. Ivanka and Jared Kushner have been named top advisors. They’re sitting in on meetings with heads of state and they seem to be using these contacts to enrich their businesses. The whole family seems to have daily conflicts of interest!!
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And everyone is just sitting around a letting them do it. They are blatantly engaging in conflicts of interest. Entangling our government all up in it and everyone is just sitting and staring. I've had enough really.
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FDR and JFK were wealthy and did not release their tax returns. I don't remember anyone being worried about conflict of interests.
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Trump should rel;ease his tax return but that action should not stop anyone from voting yes for the tax changes trump wants to make.
Either support them or not based on the merits of the proposals.
I suspect the Democrats are against the changes Trump wants to make and this is a method they are using to defeat the legislation.
I agree that this piece of legislation should be defeated.
They are doing it the wrong way.
In the long run they will fail in their attempt to defeat the changes Trump wants and they will not gain support from the people who they need to win elections in the future.
The Democrats have to be smart.
They should not take actions now that can backfire on them. in the future.
I am afraid they will not take my advice and they become even weaker than they are now.
Lets hope I am wrong.
Either support them or not based on the merits of the proposals.
I suspect the Democrats are against the changes Trump wants to make and this is a method they are using to defeat the legislation.
I agree that this piece of legislation should be defeated.
They are doing it the wrong way.
In the long run they will fail in their attempt to defeat the changes Trump wants and they will not gain support from the people who they need to win elections in the future.
The Democrats have to be smart.
They should not take actions now that can backfire on them. in the future.
I am afraid they will not take my advice and they become even weaker than they are now.
Lets hope I am wrong.
here's an idea right off the wall. I wonder if there is any way to use the Equal Protection" clause of the 14th amendment with regard to a tax overhaul. At this point the "law" is providing a lot more leeeway to the rich than it does to the poor taxpayer. Should be receive equal treatment in , for example, deductions, debt, charity deductions without having to meet minimums?
IDK, just a wild thought. Over the years, the tax code has been largely adjusted to benefit the few like trump and his billionaire minions.
legal opinions anyone?
IDK, just a wild thought. Over the years, the tax code has been largely adjusted to benefit the few like trump and his billionaire minions.
legal opinions anyone?
In Jan. 2012, speaking to Fox’s Greta Van Susteren, the real estate mogul discussed Mitt Romney, who was then a candidate seeking the Republican nomination. Romney had endured similar calls to disclose his tax returns. Trump, who eventually endorsed Romney, told Van Susteren, “I think Mitt was hurt really very badly by this whole thing with the income tax returns.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN4vkickxT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN4vkickxT8
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We need to know what Trump is hiding by not releasing his tax returns! We can not trust him on tax reform as long as he is hiding his tax returns. How will we know if he is designing tax reform for his own personal benefit?
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Release your taxes. Release your taxes. Release your taxes.
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What's with Trump that he thinks that people who protest his positions are only doing so because they're being paid? Fewer than half the voters cast their ballots for Trump. We protest because his policies are objectionable in the extreme. He's so full of himself he can't even conceive of anyone having legitimate differences with his point of view.
This is a president doomed to fail. Unfortunately, he'll be taking the country down with him.
This is a president doomed to fail. Unfortunately, he'll be taking the country down with him.
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If mutual love is a "payment" then the protestors are indeed richly paid.
Amazing how conservatives, who profess to be so religious, imagine that the only thing that motivates people to do Justice is money.
Amazing how conservatives, who profess to be so religious, imagine that the only thing that motivates people to do Justice is money.
Nonsense. Whatever investigation the IRS is conducting on Trump, any change to the law would not be retroactive/would not bail him out. That is, if he has falsified or cheated on his taxes. Really sick of the professional protesters doing the bidding of the likes of Soros, Media Matters, and the NYTimes.
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"professional protesters"
ouch - isn't that talking point getting a bit stale?
ouch - isn't that talking point getting a bit stale?
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I haven't read or heard one thing that suggests anyone expects any tax code change to be retroactive, that's just silly. We're talking about current and future years, since he still has active holdings in all of his companies. We have no idea whether he will be setting policies based on personal gain for himself until we see his tax returns. If he falsified or cheated on his taxes, that's a different story, and one that can be left up to the IRS to decide.
As to the protesters, it heartens me to see people out voicing their concerns and positions - and on their own free will at that!
As to the protesters, it heartens me to see people out voicing their concerns and positions - and on their own free will at that!
You must mean that many professionals oppose trump.
Yes, indeedy!
Yes, indeedy!
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Anyone who believes anything said/promised by Donald Trump must suffer from the inability to distinguish fact from fiction.
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Today we learn that Spizer has been giving mistaken information about the location of an aircraft carrier. He won't admit it. Nobody will care tomorrow. A lie, a mistake -- who cares. We are completely buried in untruths.
Most Americans don't live this way, so the effect is finally numbing. I think that's what they hope -- we will stop caring, stop expecting anything different. Just like the hapless citizens of Russia, or any other corrupt regime.
Most Americans don't live this way, so the effect is finally numbing. I think that's what they hope -- we will stop caring, stop expecting anything different. Just like the hapless citizens of Russia, or any other corrupt regime.
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What difference does it make how the proposed tax changes affect Trump or any other individual? Either they're good proposals, or bad proposals, based on their aggregate effects. If Trump is one of those who happen to benefit from something that, on the merits, is a good proposal, would that turn you against it?
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If it's a good tax regime for Trump and his ilk, it's likely to be bad for pretty much everyone else.
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If the proposals are good on merit then yes, it should make no difference. The problem is that without seeing his tax returns we cannot know that he is not acting in naked self interest, that his considerations are made with one eye to his bottom line and therefore not considered on merit.
Without advice, would you, or most others know the intricacies of any tax plan? Because Trump has that advice and is free, should he so choose, to ignore that advice and instead act to benefit the person he always benefits: himself.
Without advice, would you, or most others know the intricacies of any tax plan? Because Trump has that advice and is free, should he so choose, to ignore that advice and instead act to benefit the person he always benefits: himself.
Let us ever see him take a position that doesn't benefit himself or his family personally, and I might buy your argument.
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It seems to me that the rest of us should should demonstrate our "Smarts" by not filing.
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Not paying taxes is only "smart" when you have sleazy accountants and lawyers.
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Trump should be the reason that the Congress passes a constitutional amendment that forces Presidents to make all their financial interests public and forces them to give up ownership in any endeavors that they will affect in the course of their responsibilities. As for using tax cuts as leverage to force Trump to disclose is tax returns, expect a cure for cancer and old age before that happens.
Once upon a time, conservatives opposed regulations, social support programs, and deficit spending. They wanted to cut taxes by cutting social support programs and to limit spending to revenues actually realized. Today they are still opposed to regulations but they care not about deficit spending so long as tax cuts are forthcoming, still repeating Reagan's folly to themselves, that tax cuts increase revenues because economic growth rockets upwards. No conservatives and few liberals are going to refuse to cut taxes, no matter what Trump does, because this country's electorate thinks that cutting taxes has no affect upon them except to have more money to spend.
Once upon a time, conservatives opposed regulations, social support programs, and deficit spending. They wanted to cut taxes by cutting social support programs and to limit spending to revenues actually realized. Today they are still opposed to regulations but they care not about deficit spending so long as tax cuts are forthcoming, still repeating Reagan's folly to themselves, that tax cuts increase revenues because economic growth rockets upwards. No conservatives and few liberals are going to refuse to cut taxes, no matter what Trump does, because this country's electorate thinks that cutting taxes has no affect upon them except to have more money to spend.
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"Trump should be the reason that the Congress passes a constitutional amendment that forces Presidents to make all their financial interests public and forces them to give up ownership in any endeavors that they will affect in the course of their responsibilities."
Not only will this likely never happen' it should never happen. Think of how many good candidates will be turned away from running for president if they must disclose every jot and tittle of their past. You may respond that if they've not done anything 'illegal' but we know how that works; your political enemies will hay from whatever straw you provide. I'm not Trump admirer, but I'd like very much to preserve the chances of us having a president in the future that I can admire.
Not only will this likely never happen' it should never happen. Think of how many good candidates will be turned away from running for president if they must disclose every jot and tittle of their past. You may respond that if they've not done anything 'illegal' but we know how that works; your political enemies will hay from whatever straw you provide. I'm not Trump admirer, but I'd like very much to preserve the chances of us having a president in the future that I can admire.
Crunch time: Where is Trump allegiance, to his bottom line or the country?
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Oh to think of the heady days of post-election/pre-Inauguration Republican jubilation at their "united" government and all the ambitious plans to push through ACA repeal, Paul Ryan's tax code, and then, perhaps as bonuses, the privatization of Medicare and SS! Republicans instead are finding themselves squashed in a troika of the unpopular and unstable Trump whose "deal making" prowess is being revealed as the fraud most non-Trump supporters knew it to be, the Freedom Caucus filled with gerrymandered ideologues with no experience or willingness to govern, and less safe Republicans (call them "moderates") who will bear the brunt of unpopular Republican policies and so far are not proving willing to fall on their swords on the altar of Paul Ryan's Better Way.
For scared and disappointed Democrats and independents following the election of this nightmare majority coalition some solace can be found that apparently "no one knew" that governing is hard.. If they can't get out of their own way for the next two years then their damage can be mitigated until we can start the process of voting them out. Their demoralized base after 2 years of inaction at implementing the Republican Promised Land will help with that too.
If Trump wants to salvage his popularity, getting rid of all the right wing policies and staff is necessary. He's in the worst of all situations: his cultural "populism" has a cap on it, and his retrenchment to hard right Republicanism will cost him "swing" voters.
For scared and disappointed Democrats and independents following the election of this nightmare majority coalition some solace can be found that apparently "no one knew" that governing is hard.. If they can't get out of their own way for the next two years then their damage can be mitigated until we can start the process of voting them out. Their demoralized base after 2 years of inaction at implementing the Republican Promised Land will help with that too.
If Trump wants to salvage his popularity, getting rid of all the right wing policies and staff is necessary. He's in the worst of all situations: his cultural "populism" has a cap on it, and his retrenchment to hard right Republicanism will cost him "swing" voters.
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This is nonsense. If tax reform fails it will be because Congress does not do their job. The voters could care less about President Trump's but they do care about reducing taxes.
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What is nonsense is the President of the American people refusing to be transparent and refusing to release his taxes returns. What is nonsense is the argument that not releasing his returns is irrelevant. What is nonsense is the possible conflicts of interest the President may have and how the proposed tax reform could possibly benefit him personally.
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Nonsense. It's clear from opinion polls that a substantial majority of voters think the President should release his tax returns. If tax reform fails it will be because the President refuses to come clean about his conflicts of interest.
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Speak for yourself trumpet.
The American People do care whether or not your president on top of being a draft dodging coward is also a parasitic tax cheat who's owned lock stock and barrel by that sawed off little russian twerp.
The American People do care whether or not your president on top of being a draft dodging coward is also a parasitic tax cheat who's owned lock stock and barrel by that sawed off little russian twerp.
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What I ask myself, is what do Trump's followers think about what they're reading in the headlines today?
So I checked it out on Breitbart News, where gigantic headlines inform us:
"Here Comes Chelsea!
Glam Press Tour to Revive Troubled Clinton Dynasty
Beaming Covergirl ‘Deeply Saddened’ by Sexism in America"
So forget this tax return pettiness and read about what's important. Steve Bannon, Trump's top advisor, will have his people keep us informed.
So I checked it out on Breitbart News, where gigantic headlines inform us:
"Here Comes Chelsea!
Glam Press Tour to Revive Troubled Clinton Dynasty
Beaming Covergirl ‘Deeply Saddened’ by Sexism in America"
So forget this tax return pettiness and read about what's important. Steve Bannon, Trump's top advisor, will have his people keep us informed.
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Read my lips, or maybe my words..he will not release is taxes until and unless Congress uses subpoena power during the Russia collusion investigation. This con man sees no reason to reveal all his malfeasance, not until he is forced to do it.
In the meantime, the ethics violations are fragrant. Ivanka Trump's products were approved for sale in China while she hosted a dinner for the Chinese premier. The graft and enrichment goes on and on and on.
In the meantime, the ethics violations are fragrant. Ivanka Trump's products were approved for sale in China while she hosted a dinner for the Chinese premier. The graft and enrichment goes on and on and on.
“I think the president’s view on this has been very clear from the campaign, and the American people understood it when they elected him in November,” Mr. Spicer said.
Once again, Mr. Spicer is living in an alternate universe. The "American people" understood that Mr. Trump promised that he would release his taxes. Nothing more, nothing less. That Spicer's revisionist history rearranges the facts, is sadly, no long surprising.
Once again, Mr. Spicer is living in an alternate universe. The "American people" understood that Mr. Trump promised that he would release his taxes. Nothing more, nothing less. That Spicer's revisionist history rearranges the facts, is sadly, no long surprising.
Shame on you, NYT:
The Times and its progressive/media bubble allies are again leading liberals into the wilderness. Did you learn nothing form Hilary's defeat?
We need to focus on positive, job-creating, income producing programs for the working class. This used to be the Democrats' bread and butter, literally, and should be again, not identity politics, celebrity glitz and pitching buckets of division and hate.
Obstruction of tax reform (and all Trump initiatives, regardless of merit) is not a winning hand, whatever excuse is given....
The Times and its progressive/media bubble allies are again leading liberals into the wilderness. Did you learn nothing form Hilary's defeat?
We need to focus on positive, job-creating, income producing programs for the working class. This used to be the Democrats' bread and butter, literally, and should be again, not identity politics, celebrity glitz and pitching buckets of division and hate.
Obstruction of tax reform (and all Trump initiatives, regardless of merit) is not a winning hand, whatever excuse is given....
I think all of the saber rattling lately with North Korea and Syria are convenient distractions from the ongoing effort to get Don the Con to release his previous tax returns. he knew there was a protest march coming on April 15th, the media keeps dogging him and his deplorables on the issue, so why not divert attention by playing at war? It's a great GOP tactic that half of Americans fall for every time.
....Mr Trump is now the President of the United States. These are difficult and challenging times. Partisan efforts to undermine our President is unpatriotic and work again our Country's best interest...
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That is what we said when Pres. Obama took office during a devastating financial downturn. " Patriotic" Republicans did everything to block him, and refused to negotiate or offer any real alternatives that could turn into a bipartisan solution. Paul Ryan has now said clearly he won't work with Democrats. The GOP is reaping what it has sown.
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Au contraire. We are trying to have him impeached, in order to SAVE our country. What could be more patriotic than that?
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......but it was OK when that black man was President?
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The Democrats should propose a broad reform ASAP - lead from behind. Let Trumpy react to it. And if he knocks things that seem favorable to him, then demand his returns. Otherwise, lets do whats best for the country.
He knows nothing about taxes. Some crusty old guy on Long Island takes care of that for him. He alone is a complete nothing.
He knows nothing about taxes. Some crusty old guy on Long Island takes care of that for him. He alone is a complete nothing.
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Why does the NYT and other publications refer to Donald Trump as a billionaire, because he says he is? There is absolutely no evidence to confirm that and Trump himself said in a deposition that his opinion of his net worth changes based on his mood, or something like that.
Unless we have evidence to confirm or deny his wish to be referred to as a billionaire, stop buying into is propaganda and feed his ego!
Get a hold of yourselves!
Unless we have evidence to confirm or deny his wish to be referred to as a billionaire, stop buying into is propaganda and feed his ego!
Get a hold of yourselves!
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I might suggest that in order to better understand the language and perceptions of the columnists, always remember who actually owns these publications and whom ultimately, dictates the agenda. I will never forget the meeting that Trump conducted, just prior to his innauguration, with the principles of several major media outlets, including this one. I am sure they weren't there just to exchange recipes.
As valid as they might be, I am sure there are descripitions and criticisms of this
President and a line pertaining to all of it even the NYT won't dare cross.
As valid as they might be, I am sure there are descripitions and criticisms of this
President and a line pertaining to all of it even the NYT won't dare cross.
Why are we so obsessed with Trump'a tax returns? Why are we obsessed with his lies? Politicians have lied since there have been people to lie to. Has there ever been a president who hasn't lied? I think not. So let's get on with the real issues before us, please.
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Ah, so that's what you folks tell yourselves--they all do it. First: In eight years in office, when did President Obama lie? Not once that I can think of. Second: Sure, some past Democratic presidents have lied, some about very important matters (Lyndon Johnson).
Republican presidents have been frequent, even habitual liars: Richard Nixon, George W. Bush.
But nobody, but nobody, lies with the pathological constancy of Donald Trump. His lying is a profound stain on our country's very being, and a profound, ever present danger to all of us.
Do not, do not, make excuses for President Donald Trump.
Republican presidents have been frequent, even habitual liars: Richard Nixon, George W. Bush.
But nobody, but nobody, lies with the pathological constancy of Donald Trump. His lying is a profound stain on our country's very being, and a profound, ever present danger to all of us.
Do not, do not, make excuses for President Donald Trump.
If you don't think that having a pathological liar with no ability to lead as President isn't a "real issue," I don't know what to say.
These are big lies that will change the course of the US.
Sure, let's give him a pass. It's okay.
Get out of here!
Sure, let's give him a pass. It's okay.
Get out of here!
The house couldn't pass a mere addenda to the health care bill, how are they possibly going to coalesce on the albatross of tax reform?
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Speaking of taxes - why do mine have to support weekend trips to Florida?
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Candidate Trump promised to release his tax returns because a.) that's what presidential candidates are supposed to say and b.) he never expected to become President. Likewise, Trump and his campaign actively welcomed and courted Russian help because a.) making life miserable for Hilary was fun and b.) they never expected to win the election. Now its seems both decisions have come back to haunt our boy-President.
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Shawn Spicer was born about 110 years too late. With his belief that transparency in government is NOT a good thing, he would have been a star in Joseph Goebbels' propaganda machine. But maybe now, once the rest of the administration is in prison, he could probably land a nice gig in Turkey.
Trump got it all wrong in his ridiculously juvenile tweet that the election is over.
The election is definitely over, but now Americans need to see his tax returns because he is President.
The burning question is who owns his debt?
Americans deserve to know.
The election is definitely over, but now Americans need to see his tax returns because he is President.
The burning question is who owns his debt?
Americans deserve to know.
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If the election is over why does Trump still continue to hold rallies?
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Although some have pointed out that releasing tax returns is only a tradition, not a rule, it is good one because it is simple: the people in the United States of America have a right to know whether the decisions made by the President are being made in best the interests of the people and the country or if they are being made to the best interests of the President's financial affairs.
A President dedicated to public service would want to eliminate any doubt in the trust the the people can have in him or someday her.
A President dedicated to public service would want to eliminate any doubt in the trust the the people can have in him or someday her.
NYT please do the following EVERYDAY:
1. Count the number of days passed since Trump said he would release his tax returns.
2. Publish EVERYDAY a tally of the cost to taxpayers for his 7 out of 13 weekend trips to Mar a Lago and counting.
Please publish this in BOLD print or RED print EVERYDAY.
Thank you.
1. Count the number of days passed since Trump said he would release his tax returns.
2. Publish EVERYDAY a tally of the cost to taxpayers for his 7 out of 13 weekend trips to Mar a Lago and counting.
Please publish this in BOLD print or RED print EVERYDAY.
Thank you.
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Yes, because that's what they did with Obama right ?
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I had suggested the NYT do the same thing for the number of days since Merrick Garland was nominated.
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ill field that one
A new website is taking a dig at President Donald Trump’s frequent, costly trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort and suggesting how the money might be better spent.
The site IsTrumpAtMarALago.org, launched on Friday by the Center for American Progress Action Fund, tracks how many weekends Trump has spent there and what the estimated cost has been for taxpayers. As of Monday morning, he had gone to the resort seven out of his 13 weekends as president, costing taxpayers an estimated $25 million.
IsTrumpAtMarALago.org also provides a list of programs that could have used that money, specifically citing those facing Trump-proposed cuts, such as public school funding and aid for the homeless.
“It’s supremely hypocritical of Donald Trump to spend millions of government dollars at Mar-a-Lago while crusading to cut vital programs such as Meals on Wheels,” CAP Action spokeswoman Morgan Finkelstein said in a press release. “Our tracker will provide context and keep Trump accountable for his out-of-control spending at taxpayers’ expense.”
https://istrumpatmaralago.org/
A new website is taking a dig at President Donald Trump’s frequent, costly trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort and suggesting how the money might be better spent.
The site IsTrumpAtMarALago.org, launched on Friday by the Center for American Progress Action Fund, tracks how many weekends Trump has spent there and what the estimated cost has been for taxpayers. As of Monday morning, he had gone to the resort seven out of his 13 weekends as president, costing taxpayers an estimated $25 million.
IsTrumpAtMarALago.org also provides a list of programs that could have used that money, specifically citing those facing Trump-proposed cuts, such as public school funding and aid for the homeless.
“It’s supremely hypocritical of Donald Trump to spend millions of government dollars at Mar-a-Lago while crusading to cut vital programs such as Meals on Wheels,” CAP Action spokeswoman Morgan Finkelstein said in a press release. “Our tracker will provide context and keep Trump accountable for his out-of-control spending at taxpayers’ expense.”
https://istrumpatmaralago.org/
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The country, now perhaps more than ever, needs a real patriot to come forward with Trump's tax returns in hand for all to see.
Any jury will recognize his or her heroism and refuse to convict.
Wish it were so. For the good of the country.
Any jury will recognize his or her heroism and refuse to convict.
Wish it were so. For the good of the country.
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I'd like to see some investigative journalism on the question of how long does an audit take?
Also, are his 2016 tax forms under audit since they (assumably) were just filed?
Also, are his 2016 tax forms under audit since they (assumably) were just filed?
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Reducing taxes has been the mantra from the right for years but and the results do not prove their assertions because tax reductions don't increase GDP and jobs. But raising taxes does in the right places and that's the difference. Raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations makes them invest in the real economy or pay for the commons and it's that simple.
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This stance suggests the Democrats are putting spite before the good of the country. It's like the Democrats in control and Republicans holding tax reform hostage to an insistence on seeing George Soros's and Tom Steyer's tax returns to make sure they'll lose out.
No matter what kind of tax changes are implemented, they will have some effect on the Trump family fortune and holdings. If the Democrats require those effects be negative on Trump Inc., even if it means a bad tax reform or none at all, then the Democrats aren't serious about governing.
I suggest the Democrats try to devise a comprehensive tax reform that benefits the Democrats' base—poorer people, racial and ethnic minorities, and coastal elites—and forget about punishing the Trumps as a precondition. Who cares if one wealthy American family benefits (or suffers) if beneficial tax reform is achieved? Not I.
No matter what kind of tax changes are implemented, they will have some effect on the Trump family fortune and holdings. If the Democrats require those effects be negative on Trump Inc., even if it means a bad tax reform or none at all, then the Democrats aren't serious about governing.
I suggest the Democrats try to devise a comprehensive tax reform that benefits the Democrats' base—poorer people, racial and ethnic minorities, and coastal elites—and forget about punishing the Trumps as a precondition. Who cares if one wealthy American family benefits (or suffers) if beneficial tax reform is achieved? Not I.
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I am a Democratic Party member and don't fit those categories you mentioned. Never ASSume. I want to see his returns as promised. I know he didn't REALLY mean it. He never does.
Indictments will start soon. It won't matter then.
Indictments will start soon. It won't matter then.
If this were Oz and George Soros or Tom Steyer were elected President we would demand they release their taxes too.
But this so Earth and it was draft dodger trump who was appointed president by the elitists in the electoral college so it is draft dodger trump who should just man up and show The American People exactly how much his owes his sawed off russian Sugar Daddy.
But this so Earth and it was draft dodger trump who was appointed president by the elitists in the electoral college so it is draft dodger trump who should just man up and show The American People exactly how much his owes his sawed off russian Sugar Daddy.
It will be difficult for any tax reform proposal by this administration to be taken seriously without transparency on the part of this president. He inspires a level of mistrust that will poison and bring into question his motives on virtually every issue the public perceives as benefitting his business interests.
He should have divested and released his taxes if he truly wanted to be an effective leader for meaningful change.
He should have divested and released his taxes if he truly wanted to be an effective leader for meaningful change.
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When will the American public stop voting for inexperienced candidates to take on major roles in government?
Stop voting for actors, failed businessmen, and men and women who are just good looking.
Candidates like Bernie Sanders are perfect - they care about the country, are intelligent to understand our society, and experienced to make things happen in government.
We have been duped for decades. Time to wake up and take to the streets.
Stop voting for actors, failed businessmen, and men and women who are just good looking.
Candidates like Bernie Sanders are perfect - they care about the country, are intelligent to understand our society, and experienced to make things happen in government.
We have been duped for decades. Time to wake up and take to the streets.
Tax burden has been shifted so deeply away from the wealthy and on to the backs of the middle class, working poor and poor that the idea the tax system is broken because it takes too much from business is beyond absurd. It is the the what has been called the most vile maxim of the Republican Party, ALL FOR US AND NONE FOR YOU! Through heavy use of propaganda, Republicans have gotten the electorate to vote against their own interests. Meanwhile the wealthy get everything they want and the rest of us get bupkis.
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"Why doesn't he show his tax return? There's something on that tax return that he doesn't like." - Donald Trump
(Okay, I confess, this is an alternative quote. The original said "birth certificate" rather than "tax return.")
(Okay, I confess, this is an alternative quote. The original said "birth certificate" rather than "tax return.")
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Trumps campaign promises? You mean bold face lies he told to racists and ignoramuses? Anyone who believed the con man in chiefs promises, starting with his wives, and 99% of his business partners have been conned. Trump University, a gigantic con, Trumps business arrangements, I get paid, you go out of business, also know as being conned. Trump's banks and lenders, you have to take a giant hair cut on the Trump loans because you have been conned. 40 plus years of being a liar and a con man, and now with the help of his friends in Russia he is president. Do con men show anyone their taxes? Your kidding right?
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Trump promised he would release his tax returns, "absolutely".
Broke that promise (just as Mitt Romney foretold a year ago), and now takes to Twitter to complain, "Now Tax Returns are brought up again?"
a) He has no right to complain when people expect him to keep his promises
b) People wouldn't be able to bring up his refusal if he didn't refuse. Duh.
Broke that promise (just as Mitt Romney foretold a year ago), and now takes to Twitter to complain, "Now Tax Returns are brought up again?"
a) He has no right to complain when people expect him to keep his promises
b) People wouldn't be able to bring up his refusal if he didn't refuse. Duh.
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I'm taking bets he has something MAJOR to hide.
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An arrogant blowhard like trump passing up an opportunity to show the world how much money he has ? Something is amiss.
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Ironic, isn't it, that Trump demanded to see Barack Obama's birth certificate; but he's hiding his tax returns behind a wall of lies. The word hypocrisy fails to adequately describe this administration's arrogance and mendacity.
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I am not 100% sure draft dodger trump can read so I'd also like him to release his college transcripts while he's at it.
He demanded President Obama release his college transcripts so he should do no less.
A lot of people are asking questions about how trump can't actually read.
A lot of questions.
So serious, so sad.
He demanded President Obama release his college transcripts so he should do no less.
A lot of people are asking questions about how trump can't actually read.
A lot of questions.
So serious, so sad.
Electronically sent $3046.00 in addition to regular payroll deduction, to IRS yesterday, combined family income 67k, and Donald the Clown pays ZERO. UNFAIR, SAD, BAD HOMBRE
Trumpspeak fill in the blank:
"I understand _______________ better than anyone else and only I can fix it."
"I understand _______________ better than anyone else and only I can fix it."
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Yes, followed by:
"who knew __________ could be so difficult".
"who knew __________ could be so difficult".
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We definitely need to see those tax returns. I'm concerned however that people are putting too many eggs in that basket. He lies 3/4 of the time anyway. Who knows what kind of lie he may or may not be able to effect on this front.
There is so many conflicts of interest and profiteering that is happening from this presidency. Yet, he and his children, you know White House staff, still all get slaps on the wrist. We still read "He is being criticized for" as opposed to he is flat out engaging in. He is guilty on so many counts across the board. His Russian collusion combined with the timeline of his entire campaign rhetoric make it that collusion blatantly obvious. I am so sick of this pussy footing around this monster.
There is so many conflicts of interest and profiteering that is happening from this presidency. Yet, he and his children, you know White House staff, still all get slaps on the wrist. We still read "He is being criticized for" as opposed to he is flat out engaging in. He is guilty on so many counts across the board. His Russian collusion combined with the timeline of his entire campaign rhetoric make it that collusion blatantly obvious. I am so sick of this pussy footing around this monster.
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Trump is a special snowflake masquerading as an astute businessman with a plan for America. Shine a bright light on him and watch him melt.
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Are we going to continue to hear that refrain, Quote: We have never been here before...End Quote. That statement is a complete concedence to the abuse of power that the republicans are all to eager to embrace Exclamation Point
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Seems like a cluster of people are STILL missing the point. This should not be about tit-for-tat. If we 'all'...well the reasonable mass of us want to get to the bottom of Russia, Toddler-in-Chief's taxes are a key part. So his utter refusal to do what the last 6 presidents have done voluntarily should have you on alert. The so-called 'audit' is likely him stalling to either keep up the defiant façade for no clear reason OR buy time while his 'people to doctor records for any trace of any complicity associated with or without Russia.
One thing this Admin seems most oblivious about is the fact that they WORK FOR US, so that company mentality they are accustomed needs to fly out the window STAT!
One thing this Admin seems most oblivious about is the fact that they WORK FOR US, so that company mentality they are accustomed needs to fly out the window STAT!
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I abhor the idea/notion/threat that tax reform would be set up to specifically affect one individual... I know this was done in the past with extremely wealthy individuals, but that was long ago.
Make the tax code relatively simple and fair - nobody should complain about that except the accountants.
Make the tax code relatively simple and fair - nobody should complain about that except the accountants.
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I still do not understand why a candidates tax returns need to be publicized. I know of NO ONE who reviews this material - Democrat/Republican/Independent - BEFORE voting. I have asked this of friends/associates of all parties who have complained about Trump not releasing his taxes and none have ever reviewed a candidates taxes before voting or even at all.
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Sicilliana, you are entirely missing the point. Of course voters do not read every source document. In fact, before the internet, that was not even practical. Then, as now, the media, watchdog groups, other politicians, and ethics professionals will examine the tax returns, and then news stories will inform voters. Whether voters are reading particular documents is irrelevant to whether Trump should get away with covering-up information relevant to his violations of the Emoluments Clause.
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The News Media, presumably, looks for conflicts of interests and outright lies. Trump says he's worth a new amount of money every day, let's see if that's true. Trump says he's not a russian puppet, let's see if he owes russia money after 08. We already know american banks won't lend to Mr. bankruptcy. He's too big of a liability. His son said they get a lot of money from russia, let's see. If he hides it, he's hiding something. Also it's important because his claim of being a great businessman is why he was elected. let's see if that's true. Can't tell if we don't see his tax returns
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Ann, you did not understand my comment which is a generic one - why did the disclosure of tax returns EVER become an issue. Because we have the internet and can get it? Our founding fathers did not file tax returns because income taxes didn't exist until the early 20th century - if you exclude the Revenue Act of 1861 - so how could Trump or any politician be in violation of the Emoluments Clause when income taxes did not exist when it was written.
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What line on the 1040 do I use to declare emoluments and cash gifts from Russia and other foreign states?
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I applaud The New York Times and Alan Rappeport for this article, and I am thrilled that both Democrats and Republicans are starting to see Trump's unreleased tax returns as a point of leverage. However I am concerned that they are being used to leverage the wrong thing. If tax reform will be waiting until at least August, Trump's taxes should be used as a tool in the Senate Intel Committee investigation on Russia, which seems far more urgent and disturbing.
Hey NYTimes, we know the Senate Intel Committee investigation on Russia is being held behind closed doors, but how about more continuing coverage on Trump ties and Russian tampering??? Since people are so often blind to self-interest (ie. having a favorable tax code) and far more interested spectacle, how about learning from the Russians? Continue to fuel the news-worthy spectacle of the bizaare and opaque Trump-Russia connection, even as militarization and speaking out of both sides of the mouth seems to be happening here and there.
Maybe, just maybe, those tax returns are hiding financial transactions with Russia??
Hey NYTimes, we know the Senate Intel Committee investigation on Russia is being held behind closed doors, but how about more continuing coverage on Trump ties and Russian tampering??? Since people are so often blind to self-interest (ie. having a favorable tax code) and far more interested spectacle, how about learning from the Russians? Continue to fuel the news-worthy spectacle of the bizaare and opaque Trump-Russia connection, even as militarization and speaking out of both sides of the mouth seems to be happening here and there.
Maybe, just maybe, those tax returns are hiding financial transactions with Russia??
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I appreciate Trump's effort to crack down corporations that use V-H1 foreign workers to boost profits, while undercutting US workers.
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I could not agree more. You are correct that leverage used appropriately can and will yield results. I am pleased that Democrats are unwilling to negotiate tax reform until President Trump releases his tax returns, but I also believe that it is singularly important to continue to use whatever weapons are in the arsenal to force transparency and truthfulness in government. Therefore it is essential to use this tool to help get more information on the Russia-Trump connection.
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"Trump's Unreleased Taxes Threaten Yet Another Campaign Promise"
I sure hope so.
No way that he, his family, his Cabinet buddies and his yes-men in the GOP can be in charge of tax reform until it is clear-as-day how any changes benefit ANY of them.
I sure hope so.
No way that he, his family, his Cabinet buddies and his yes-men in the GOP can be in charge of tax reform until it is clear-as-day how any changes benefit ANY of them.
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mr. trump calls for investigations into all those people demanding he release his tax returns - a clear intimidation tactic and an abuse of presidential powers. Imagine if President Obama called for an investigation into all those "Birther Movement" folks who disrespected a sitting President and the office all those years? The GOP would be howling like their lives depended upon it.
The double standard is startling!
Meanwhile trump remains silent on, tacitly approving of, individuals who, supporting trump, crossed state lines for the sole purpose of provoking riots using racist slogans, signs, and violent behaviors at Berkeley.
Remember the Chicago Seven who were charged by the federal government with conspiracy and inciting to riot? Where's that federal government now?
The double standard is startling!
Meanwhile trump remains silent on, tacitly approving of, individuals who, supporting trump, crossed state lines for the sole purpose of provoking riots using racist slogans, signs, and violent behaviors at Berkeley.
Remember the Chicago Seven who were charged by the federal government with conspiracy and inciting to riot? Where's that federal government now?
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I meant to include this in my earlier comment:
Does Donald Trump really believe that his tax returns are not being examined and analyzed by the best forensic accountants at the FBI?
So, we may not see the returns for a while but the people investigating Trump and his associates sure will :-) No presidential privilege exists for returns prior to his election and it's dubious that any exists for the 2016 tax year.
Does Donald Trump really believe that his tax returns are not being examined and analyzed by the best forensic accountants at the FBI?
So, we may not see the returns for a while but the people investigating Trump and his associates sure will :-) No presidential privilege exists for returns prior to his election and it's dubious that any exists for the 2016 tax year.
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I understand when people say that taxes are personal. However, they are not personal when one is running for president of the US. When we are electing someone who can change the tax laws affecting the people of this country, that person needs to be transparent about his/her personal tax returns. Presidential candidates for the last 50 years have had no problem with this transparency. The fact that Trump would not release his tax returns was a red flag early in his campaign that warned of his corrupt practices. Why he was able to escape this traditional practice is a reflection of the current state of voters in the country and the members of Congress they have elected to represent them. Trump continues to make a mockery of the people he serves.
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And don't forget Price, who benefited from making healthcare legislation on stocks he owned! Reported by CNN, "Tom Price purchased shares in a medical device manufacturer days before introducing legislation that would have directly benefited the company...:
Where are his tax returns and how does it happen that he is not under investigation for this practice?
Where are his tax returns and how does it happen that he is not under investigation for this practice?
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Let us be real. Though the Trump returns would be of interest, no Democrat will support anything the Republicans will try to advance. The shoe is on the other foot and now the Democrats are the party of NO. The two parties are at war with each other and that will continue. If the Republicans want tax reform, they must do it 100 per cent on their own. They could not pull it off with health care reform: they might actually have a better chance on taxes. Less Republican seem as wacky.
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Donald once said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th Ave. and shoot someone and not lose voters." Perhaps. Many of his supporters blindly accept anything he says or does. But it can also be said that even if he walked into any bank with a loaded gun he would still walk out empty handed. That is because gun or no gun, no American bank would deal with Donald and his zero credit rating. So where does the President, who suffered multiple bankruptcies, get his money?
The President has been dealing for years with some of the shadiest financiers around the globe and we suspect many are from America's greatest adversary, Russia. Releasing his taxes would help dispel such questions and is why, despite Donald's protests, we still want to see those returns. While his followers may want to stupidly swallow his excuses, much if not most of the country isn't so willing to take such a leap of faith.
The President has been dealing for years with some of the shadiest financiers around the globe and we suspect many are from America's greatest adversary, Russia. Releasing his taxes would help dispel such questions and is why, despite Donald's protests, we still want to see those returns. While his followers may want to stupidly swallow his excuses, much if not most of the country isn't so willing to take such a leap of faith.
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I work in STEM.
I don't care as much about Trump taxes as I do care about keeping employed in the face of floods of cheap H1b visa workers.
Trumps taxes won't keep my job for me.
I sure wish some of the people making comments here could get a bit better perspective.
Over the past 8 years nearly all out federal level politicians were dying to increase the badly abused, poorly audited H1b, L1 and B1 visas. I saw my career aspirations die as I held onto my job. I saw coworkers laid off and replaced with H1b workers who were barely able to do basic tasks.
With Trumps initiative, I'll be much more likely to retire at full retirement age and not have to take SS early. Are Trump taxes involved in that? No and so what.
I don't care as much about Trump taxes as I do care about keeping employed in the face of floods of cheap H1b visa workers.
Trumps taxes won't keep my job for me.
I sure wish some of the people making comments here could get a bit better perspective.
Over the past 8 years nearly all out federal level politicians were dying to increase the badly abused, poorly audited H1b, L1 and B1 visas. I saw my career aspirations die as I held onto my job. I saw coworkers laid off and replaced with H1b workers who were barely able to do basic tasks.
With Trumps initiative, I'll be much more likely to retire at full retirement age and not have to take SS early. Are Trump taxes involved in that? No and so what.
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Trump is never going to release his tax returns and that is the least of it. The Trump family dynasty is about making money and owning and branding properties. They are firmly entrenched in the White House with their family businesses and access to power.
The only tax return reform will seek to benefit them and other millionaire/billionaires. If this is not clear to his supporters and those of us who didn't vote for this farce, then I do not know how much more ethical abuse you need to see.
For those who voted this in hoping to see your bad fortune change, good luck to you, your fortunes will never rise nor will your hopes in time.
This crew is only out for themselves. IMO they sold us out a long time ago.
The only tax return reform will seek to benefit them and other millionaire/billionaires. If this is not clear to his supporters and those of us who didn't vote for this farce, then I do not know how much more ethical abuse you need to see.
For those who voted this in hoping to see your bad fortune change, good luck to you, your fortunes will never rise nor will your hopes in time.
This crew is only out for themselves. IMO they sold us out a long time ago.
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What's he afraid of? Should be a no brainer... unless?
This is a man who demanded Obama's birth certificate and who was so assured that the "foreign-born" US President was not one of us and would have conflicts of interest because he wasn't from here. And now he can't release his own tax returns? WOW.
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What happened to Russia collusion? That failed, so now you're on to his taxes again, which he has no obligation to reveal. What does he have to gain after he's already won? Zip.
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It's not about "what he has to gain," but about what the rest of us have to lose.
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Failed? I think The FBI will have something to say about that.
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Perhaps the larger problem is that there is no realistic chance that the profound divisions between left & right can be bridged. The Democrats in congress know that their careers hang by the thinnest of threads of 'resistance' that will easily snap if they are shown to work, even tangentially, with the administration on any legislation. The Republicans in Congress are too busy fighting amongst themselves to see the importance of tax reform so they are no help to anyone.
In short, it's a mess and Trump, all things considered, isn't building any bridges.
In short, it's a mess and Trump, all things considered, isn't building any bridges.
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trump spent two years dogging President Obama about his birth certificate. And the media played along. Finally, President Obama was reduced to presenting his birth certificate, which then sent trump and his racist followers into another six years of attacking the president about his "phony" birth certificate. Now here we are. On the break of war at the hands of Putin's puppet. Our own elected officials in Congress, who should put their constituents first, are too cowardly to extract his tax returns, which they have the power to do. The Democrats are about as motivated as wilted celery.
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"Putin's puppet" that sounds like a song. Has a ring to it doesn't it.
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I personally do not care about trump's tax returns, and i will tell you why. many of my colleagues at work are hyper bleeding heart liberals, anti trump to the core, and yet they openly describe their policy of requiring cash only for the outside teaching they do, away from our normal employment as performers and teachers. they think i am harsh and unfeeling for voting for trump, most of them are in their late 20's and early 30's, while i am 64 years old. they are in fact criminally and deliberately cheating the government, which impacts my upcoming social security and medicare distributions, but they think of themselves as morally superior in all ways. if trump cheated on his taxes, he is no different from them. meanwhile the welfare state chugs away, giving taxpayer dollars to people who are here illegally, or who don't care whether they have jobs or not, or who have illegitimate children they expect me to support.
i have worked HARD my whole life, taken care of my elderly mother for years (she is gone now, from Parkinson's disease), and raised and educated two children, and those benefits i expect to receive are well earned and deserved. it seems to me that it is the courts are making it impossible for trump to implement one of his major promises, which is finally to change the immigration system. lucky for the judges i do not get to vote or them. as for foreign countries protesting our policies: they can shut up and mind their own borders.
i have worked HARD my whole life, taken care of my elderly mother for years (she is gone now, from Parkinson's disease), and raised and educated two children, and those benefits i expect to receive are well earned and deserved. it seems to me that it is the courts are making it impossible for trump to implement one of his major promises, which is finally to change the immigration system. lucky for the judges i do not get to vote or them. as for foreign countries protesting our policies: they can shut up and mind their own borders.
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A person who is worried about their Medicare and Social Security and who voted Republican ought to have their head examined -- immediately. (B/c soon it won't be covered).
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Trump voters are waking up that promises made or not going to be promises kept. Many understand that Trump promised what he could never deliver and others are learning it was just hyperbole in the first place. Blaming it on the liberals is not only inaccurate but just yields a yawn these days.
But, there remains a hard-core minority who are just plain angry and want to blame everyone else for how life has worked out for them. The Republican Party used to be the party of personal responsibility, often to absurd extremes.
Ironic how that's changed. Now, for that vocal minority I just mentioned, the GOP is the party of those who want Trump to deliver what he never could. If you're angry now, just wait till 2018 when the House is majority Democrat.
But, there remains a hard-core minority who are just plain angry and want to blame everyone else for how life has worked out for them. The Republican Party used to be the party of personal responsibility, often to absurd extremes.
Ironic how that's changed. Now, for that vocal minority I just mentioned, the GOP is the party of those who want Trump to deliver what he never could. If you're angry now, just wait till 2018 when the House is majority Democrat.
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people who are here illegally cannot get anything from the government. This is an outright lie. Even many legal immigrants cannot qualify for programs from the US government, yet they pay taxes into the system. And if the illegal immigrant tried to get some "welfare" they'd risk deportation. This is nothing but propaganda. Nothing you say is based in reality.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Associated Press reports:
"On April 6, Ivanka Trump’s company won provisional approval from the Chinese government for three new trademarks, giving it monopoly rights to sell Ivanka brand jewelry, bags and spa services in the world’s second-largest economy. That night, the first daughter and her husband, Jared Kushner, sat next to the president of China and his wife for a steak and Dover sole dinner at Mar-a-Lago."
What could possibly be "crooked" about this? The canary is dead and on the floor of the cage, people.
"On April 6, Ivanka Trump’s company won provisional approval from the Chinese government for three new trademarks, giving it monopoly rights to sell Ivanka brand jewelry, bags and spa services in the world’s second-largest economy. That night, the first daughter and her husband, Jared Kushner, sat next to the president of China and his wife for a steak and Dover sole dinner at Mar-a-Lago."
What could possibly be "crooked" about this? The canary is dead and on the floor of the cage, people.
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tit for tat
I visit China a lot and can tell you they counterfeit everything. I have been in malls chocked full of Loius Vitton, Chanel, Hermes, Cartier copies of bags, purses, clothes, shoes, watches for a hundredth of the regular price so good the experts can't tell the difference. They will most certainly start pumping out Ivanka Trump counterfeit stuff and the self serving Trump family greedy little plan will crumble.
Trump is going to have a hard time putting his money where his mouth is, if Ethiopia is any indication of how manufacturing jobs in China have moved to Africa. Due to increasing operational costs domestically, some Chinese manufacturers are relocating their investments to Africa, including Huajian, a Chinese shoe giant that produces products for Ivanka Trump.
The agreement between Ivanka and Huajian was signed four years ago. Huajian group is one of the largest women’s shoe manufacturers, with its headquarters in Dongguan, Guangdong in southern China. With two factories in Ganzhou and Dongguan, Huajian produces more than 100,000 pairs of fashionable shoes for Ivanka Trump every year. For now, Ivanka’s orders come from China, but there is a possibility that production might be moved to Africa.
“It is an understandable pursuit of the United States to create jobs. But it is unlikely for some industries to go back there”, says the Chairman of Huajian Group Zhang Huarong.
Given that shoe making and garment making are labour intensive, the high labour costs in the United States has put US manufacturers at a disadvantage compared to countries in the developing world. Mr. Zhang doesn’t think President Trump will cast shadows over his business, because a veteran like Trump “would never choose politics over business”.
The agreement between Ivanka and Huajian was signed four years ago. Huajian group is one of the largest women’s shoe manufacturers, with its headquarters in Dongguan, Guangdong in southern China. With two factories in Ganzhou and Dongguan, Huajian produces more than 100,000 pairs of fashionable shoes for Ivanka Trump every year. For now, Ivanka’s orders come from China, but there is a possibility that production might be moved to Africa.
“It is an understandable pursuit of the United States to create jobs. But it is unlikely for some industries to go back there”, says the Chairman of Huajian Group Zhang Huarong.
Given that shoe making and garment making are labour intensive, the high labour costs in the United States has put US manufacturers at a disadvantage compared to countries in the developing world. Mr. Zhang doesn’t think President Trump will cast shadows over his business, because a veteran like Trump “would never choose politics over business”.
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Even though he launched his political career by demanding Obama show his birth certificate, which was a racist campaign at best, calling out Trump over his hypocrisy has proven to be ineffective. It has already been proven he has numerous conflicts of interest and nothing happened. His tax return will never prove if he and his campaign colluded with Russia to hack DNC emails which would be an impeachable offense. We need to spend more time gearing up for the next election.
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Lyin' Donald keeps on course, full speed ahead, with his lying, fascist behaviors. May his tax audit result in indictments for tax evasion, followed by conviction and prison.
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O.k. Enough of the endless analyses and commentary already. This we know: Trump is a lying, ignorant, greedy charlatan; he and his associates have been involved in shady deals with Russian oligarchs for a long time; the Trump "administration" is on a mission to destroy every government agency that improves life for the masses while amassing power and money for himself and his "dynasty"; etc. What I want to know is why no one can stop him?
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Sovereignty in this country belongs to the People. If enough if them recognize that the good of the country requires it, he can be stopped.
Brad - I wish it were true that "sovereignty in this country belongs to the People", but I think that is a myth. 68 years of living in this country has led me to believe that at least 50% of "the People" are easily brainwashed by church leaders and oligarchy-serving media and don't know how to distinguish fact from fiction, 75% are apathetic and don't take their civic responsibilities seriously, and a majority can't see farther than the ends of their own noses. Real sovereignty belongs to the top-tier global elite who increasingly control our government to serve their own agendas. God (if you are there) help us!
The white working class fully deserves to be conned by the orange conman. Stupidity, as it turns out, has a price, and that price must be paid. If anyone ever doubted the value of education, the nationwide conning by the orange conman and the looming nuclear war with North Korea should be enough to make them change their minds.
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Who cares about Trump's tax returns except for "progressive" snowflakes. It makes zero difference.
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Oh, please. It makes an enormous difference. If Hillary Clinton were in this situation you'd be having a seizure.
Donald Trump is in debt to the tune of hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars. We know of at least $300 million owed to Deutsche Bank thanks to Bloomberg. We do not know about the rest, of which there is most certainly plenty (potentially owed to Russian or Chinese state-owned banks).
That debt could have a major impact on his decision making if policy choices that helped the American people would hurt his creditors or vice versa. This is particularly critical because Donald has a tendency to put personal guarantees on his debt. That means he has unlimited personal liability should he default. Stakes don't get much higher than that.
The American people and our government representatives deserve to know where the conflicts of interest lie so they can be addressed and avoided.
Donald Trump is in debt to the tune of hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars. We know of at least $300 million owed to Deutsche Bank thanks to Bloomberg. We do not know about the rest, of which there is most certainly plenty (potentially owed to Russian or Chinese state-owned banks).
That debt could have a major impact on his decision making if policy choices that helped the American people would hurt his creditors or vice versa. This is particularly critical because Donald has a tendency to put personal guarantees on his debt. That means he has unlimited personal liability should he default. Stakes don't get much higher than that.
The American people and our government representatives deserve to know where the conflicts of interest lie so they can be addressed and avoided.
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How 'bout his birth certificate? Let's see that. What about his transcripts? Yeah, let's have those too.
Did anyone really expect the Donald would actually make his tax returns public? The man occupying the White House is the quintessential example of a lying, sleazebag politician. Truth and honoring campaign promises are not something he comprehends or cares about.
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It has just dawned on the millions of Trump voters that Trump is a psychopathic liar and a criminal. The Trump Crime Family seems to be involved in international Money Laundering with Russian and Ukrainian Oligarchs and mafia types involved. This is the primary reason Trump will not release his tax returns. He'll be open to scrutiny and will have to explain the discrepancies in those returns. It will get ugly, fast.
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Would narcissist, Donald Trump, use this situation with Syria and Syria's backdoor friend, Putin, as an attempt to throw great doubt into the mix about Donald Trump's (and his administration's) love for Putin? Does narcissist, Putin, really give a flying "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" about people dying in Syria...more less anywhere else? Didn't Trump inform Putin of the attacks? What was the effect on the target site? How about the million dollar a pop for missiles and the millions of dollars spent on logistical support to get those missiles to target. So, is this a ploy to redirect people away from the belief that Trump and Putin aren’t in bed together?
OR history gives us another precedence.
On August 23, 1939–shortly before World War II (1939-45) broke out in Europe–enemies Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union surprised the world by signing the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, in which the two countries agreed to take no military action against each other for the next 10 years. The pact also contained a secret agreement in which the Soviets and Germans agreed how they would later divide up Eastern Europe. The German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact fell apart in June 1941, when Nazi forces invaded the Soviet Union.
Trump (Hitler wannabe) and Putin (Russian dictator). I would bet that Putin would be amazingly surprised if the US attacked Russia. But that would be history repeating itself.
Trump is a narcissist first and foremost. This is where he will make decisions from.
OR history gives us another precedence.
On August 23, 1939–shortly before World War II (1939-45) broke out in Europe–enemies Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union surprised the world by signing the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, in which the two countries agreed to take no military action against each other for the next 10 years. The pact also contained a secret agreement in which the Soviets and Germans agreed how they would later divide up Eastern Europe. The German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact fell apart in June 1941, when Nazi forces invaded the Soviet Union.
Trump (Hitler wannabe) and Putin (Russian dictator). I would bet that Putin would be amazingly surprised if the US attacked Russia. But that would be history repeating itself.
Trump is a narcissist first and foremost. This is where he will make decisions from.
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The president of the USA has the power to turn the lives of all its residents into a living hell.
As such, all those residents most certainly have a right to know everything there is to know about their president.
As such, all those residents most certainly have a right to know everything there is to know about their president.
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I imagine that somewhere deep in Trump's lizard-brain, a glimmer of understanding might be sparking that the returns he sits on while bleating "Tax Reform!" could just be about to bite him in his giant rear end.
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I am not interested in whether Donald Trump is as wealthy as he claims. I am also not interested in whether he used every deduction legally available to him, or even in those where he may have used that are in conflict with the law (other than for association with foreign adversaries.)
I am *only* interested in the following:
1. Who does Trump, or any of his myriad corporate entities, owe money to and which of those institutions and/or people, if any, are associated with Russian nationals, Russian intelligence services or their assets, or the Russian mafia, i.e. the Bratva?
2. If #1 above indicates any debts, obligations, or personal or corporate interests associated with Russia, or its proxies, then why has Trump told us that none of these exist and that they have never existed?
Mr. Trump is hiding behind the indefensible, both as to his lies about releasing his returns and about what I believe to be strong financial ties to Russian interests that would compromise and nullify the legitimacy of his presidency.
No other president has ever entered office with three relevant investigations hanging over his head; Trump owes the American people his returns!
I am *only* interested in the following:
1. Who does Trump, or any of his myriad corporate entities, owe money to and which of those institutions and/or people, if any, are associated with Russian nationals, Russian intelligence services or their assets, or the Russian mafia, i.e. the Bratva?
2. If #1 above indicates any debts, obligations, or personal or corporate interests associated with Russia, or its proxies, then why has Trump told us that none of these exist and that they have never existed?
Mr. Trump is hiding behind the indefensible, both as to his lies about releasing his returns and about what I believe to be strong financial ties to Russian interests that would compromise and nullify the legitimacy of his presidency.
No other president has ever entered office with three relevant investigations hanging over his head; Trump owes the American people his returns!
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Right on!
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Trump is never exposing his tax returns unless legally forced to do so by subpoena because he knows that if he does he is finished politically and maybe worse.
Whether it is foreign business interests or lying about how wealth or charity - the man is a liar he is always and inevitably lying about something and releasing his tax returns will expose that in one way or another
Whether it is foreign business interests or lying about how wealth or charity - the man is a liar he is always and inevitably lying about something and releasing his tax returns will expose that in one way or another
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He'll move to Russia if he has to show his taxes.
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He is finally beginning to realize the limits of power as a politician rather than a rich guy who gets his way with lawsuits and stiffing others. Politicians know more about horse trading than fancy dudes.
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I'd be willing to give up curiosity about Trump's personal income tax returns in exchange for meaningful federal tax reform and simplification. Alas, I doubt we'll get either.
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The press credulously bought the assumption that Trump actually IS under audit.
He or his tax people should at least prove that much by producing the letter from the IRS stating that he is actually under audit. It would reveal nothing else worth hiding. If he doesn't produce even that, then I think we can reasonably conclude that e whole audit excuse is nothing more than a red herring.
He or his tax people should at least prove that much by producing the letter from the IRS stating that he is actually under audit. It would reveal nothing else worth hiding. If he doesn't produce even that, then I think we can reasonably conclude that e whole audit excuse is nothing more than a red herring.
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Like democrats were going to help with a tax overhaul anyway? If we get rid of all the deductions and reduce the tax rate how would seeing Trumps returns matter? Oh yeah, democrats like taxes, on others, not themselves...
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This is silly. At least one democrat (me) happily pays taxes but would like them to be spent on our country's infrastructure not sleazy Republican wars.
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I am curious to know if your answer would have been the same if it was a democrat president who had refused to show tax returns and wanted to reform tax code. wouldn't a logical thinking person want to know if it will benefit the president's bottom line or have supporters like you become so blind and so hateful of democrats, that you are willing to let anything slide by.
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"If we get rid of all the deductions and reduce the tax rate..."
If you think the Republican Party as a whole is on board with that, you're seriously deluded.
If you think the Republican Party as a whole is on board with that, you're seriously deluded.
The very FIRST step for meaningful tax reform is review and understanding of the President's tax returns, not only the current tax return, but also a significant period of his past returns. Trump's "under audit" rationale for shielding his tax returns from public scrutiny is 100.000% pure, unadulterated MALARKY; there is not one whit of factual evidence to support it. The SECOND step should be similar review of the tax returns of every Congressman and Senator.
Then, and only then, once every elected official's tax returns and their potential conflicts of interest have been revealed, can there be HONEST discussion of the tax code and possible reforms of the code.
Then, and only then, once every elected official's tax returns and their potential conflicts of interest have been revealed, can there be HONEST discussion of the tax code and possible reforms of the code.
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If liberals could harness all of that energy they are expending to tilt at windmills and put it to useful purposes, think of what they could accomplish. How many houses for the poor could they have built instead of marching around patting themselves on the back for being real Americans? How horrifyingly sad.
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like you are the "real american"; by supporting some one who mocks the disabled. How horrifyingly sad. good role model for kids right
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Americans need to keep in mind that U.S corporations have effective tax rates of less than 14%, and many of them, like G.E., pay no taxes at all. Then, there are all those U.S. multinational corporations that have trillions in profits overseas to avoid taxation. Multinational U.S. corporations have effective tax rates of about 2.5%. They are not hurting. They have the ability to pay more. The Congressional Research Service completed a study which proves the lowering taxes does NOT produce more jobs. The Report was squelched by McConnell and other conservatives who work at the behest of corporations. Certainly, they have help no voting American. So, if the tax code is going to be revamped, Americans had better make sure they corporate taxes go UP! Way UP! They are getting a free ride. They provide few jobs, especially any meaningful jobs for Americans. They refused to create jobs after the Republican 2008 financial crisis even though they were making huge profits and had over 2 trillion in excess cash reserves. They operated under the protection of the U.S. military, but provide very little in terms of their ability to pay in supporting the U.S. Tax them Danno!
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• As a group, the 288 corporations examined paid an effective federal income tax rate of just 19.4 percent over the five-year period — far less than the statutory 35 percent tax rate.
• Twenty-six of the corporations, including Boeing, General Electric, Priceline.com and Verizon, paid no federal income tax at all over the five year period. A third of the corporations (93) paid an effective tax rate of less than ten percent over that period.
• Of those corporations in our sample with significant offshore profits, two thirds paid higher corporate tax rates to foreign governments where they operate than they paid in the U.S. on their U.S. profits.
These findings refute the prevailing view inside the Washington, D.C. Beltway that America’s corporate income tax is more burdensome than the corporate income taxes levied by other countries, and that this purported (but false) excess burden somehow makes the U.S. “uncompetitive.”
• One hundred and eleven of the 288 companies (39 percent of them) paid zero or less in federal income taxes in at least one year from 2008 to 2012.
• Five companies — Wells Fargo, AT&T, IBM, General Electric, and Verizon — enjoyed over $77 billion in tax breaks during this five-year period.
http://www.ctj.org/corporatetaxdodgers/sorrystateofcorptaxes.php
• Twenty-six of the corporations, including Boeing, General Electric, Priceline.com and Verizon, paid no federal income tax at all over the five year period. A third of the corporations (93) paid an effective tax rate of less than ten percent over that period.
• Of those corporations in our sample with significant offshore profits, two thirds paid higher corporate tax rates to foreign governments where they operate than they paid in the U.S. on their U.S. profits.
These findings refute the prevailing view inside the Washington, D.C. Beltway that America’s corporate income tax is more burdensome than the corporate income taxes levied by other countries, and that this purported (but false) excess burden somehow makes the U.S. “uncompetitive.”
• One hundred and eleven of the 288 companies (39 percent of them) paid zero or less in federal income taxes in at least one year from 2008 to 2012.
• Five companies — Wells Fargo, AT&T, IBM, General Electric, and Verizon — enjoyed over $77 billion in tax breaks during this five-year period.
http://www.ctj.org/corporatetaxdodgers/sorrystateofcorptaxes.php
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Over 100,000 March to protest Donald Trump not releasing his taxes. That number has to grow to millions. It is imperative that the American people see Donald Trump's taxes. It is the surest way to get him impeached. He may do anything to divert attention even nuclear war. We must get him out now.
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At least on this issue Trump seems to be reviewing the pros and cons. What did he do in the case of the TPP? That was a decades worth of work that he just flushed down the toilet and remains his biggest blunder by far.
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not to worry, old bean
he has vastly bigglier blunders in store for you all
have a nice day
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"Beyond the politics of Mr. Trump’s returns, lawmakers do not want to pass an overhaul of the tax code that unwittingly enriches the commander in chief and his progeny. Those who are worried about conflicts of interest point to the potential repeal of the estate tax or elimination of the alternative minimum tax as provisions that would enrich Mr. Trump."
In addition to cutting the tax rates for the rich, Trump and Paul Ryan absolutely do want repeal of the estate tax and elimination of the alternative minimum tax. All three will make the rich a whole lot richer.
Killing the ACA would have given the rich an $880 Billion dollar tax cut. Cutting the Income Tax Rates and eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax would give the rich a $ Trillion Dollar tax cut.
And just who do you think would be forced to make up the lost revenue? Everyone in the working poor and middle class. The tax laws are always written by the rich; not the Average Americans.
In addition to cutting the tax rates for the rich, Trump and Paul Ryan absolutely do want repeal of the estate tax and elimination of the alternative minimum tax. All three will make the rich a whole lot richer.
Killing the ACA would have given the rich an $880 Billion dollar tax cut. Cutting the Income Tax Rates and eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax would give the rich a $ Trillion Dollar tax cut.
And just who do you think would be forced to make up the lost revenue? Everyone in the working poor and middle class. The tax laws are always written by the rich; not the Average Americans.
There likely won't be any 'smoking gun' here even if Trump's tax history is eventually revealed any more so than the myriad of other US companies that effectively pay zero taxes. More importantly in this reveal however will be how he and his family might benefit from new tax legislation and possible conflict of interest. There is plenty to be upset about regarding the state of the US tax code and it's web of corporate welfare even without Trump's returns that might reinforce that fact.
I have this gut feeling that the Deceiver-in Chief's tax returns will show just how much he owes a certain bank based in Moscow. His son-in-law had some verifiable discussions with them last December, no doubt the 'vig' was discussed in great detail. One can surmise the exchange of more favorable terms that could be gained by the removing of certain sanctions against VneshEconomBank and it's CEO Sergey Gorkov. Trump's "Art of the Deal" in real life seems to be his predilection for declaring bankruptcy, which he does with great regularity. (Also include the practice of refusing to pay the contractors who do the work.) Of course, if he does that in this case, he will find either a decapitated horse's head on his pillow or an 'above the fold' story in both RT and Sputnik. And that story would quote chapter and verse of his, his family and his campaign's involvement with a malignant foreign government intent on undermining democracy in our country and on the member states of the EU. Sedition or treason, either or both of which would insure impeachment and subsequent imprisonment for all involved. On this side of the pond, one can only hope that Mr Comey and the FBI will be able (and willing) to unravel this twisted tale.
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Don't worry. Trump will fix his returns before making them public.
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Can he do that if they are already with IRS? I know anyone can amend their returns, but that would be a matter of record too.
never hear of white-out ?
Al Capone wasn't convicted of racketeering or any of his other crimes; he was convicted of tax evasion. Maybe Trump is worried about releasing his tax returns because he knows there are multiple tax law violations (not to mention illegal payments from foreign governments and emoluments violations) that he could be jailed for if they were subject to public scrutiny?
The idea that he's getting away with lining his pockets with our tax dollars, including likely creating his own tax breaks, is sickening.
The idea that he's getting away with lining his pockets with our tax dollars, including likely creating his own tax breaks, is sickening.
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Its hard to pay taxes, no one likes it. It is the backbone of our Government and society. It is necessary. When you see that the very wealthy do not pay, corporations get millions back, and the President refuses to let us see if he is cheating or not then it is even more reason to not pay your share.
Tax reform is definitely needed and it needs to start with transparancy of who is not paying, who pays too much and how the many loopholes allow avoiding taxes. Until we do this it will continue to be a con game.
Tax reform is definitely needed and it needs to start with transparancy of who is not paying, who pays too much and how the many loopholes allow avoiding taxes. Until we do this it will continue to be a con game.
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Whether one be rich, poor, or in between, his/her tax returns are a private matter between a taxpayer and the IRS. The public is not empowered to decide whether one has paid what is legally required, and that is the only issue in question. It will be a positive development if Trump's refusal to make public his tax returns establishes a precedent for future candidates.
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There's no privacy principle here that Trump is defending. He's already lied about the audit thing. This is a coverup pure and simple. His unwillingness to divest his business interests demonstrates an astounding degree of corruption. The Presidency has become Trump, Inc. People are sacrificing American Democracy for a short term political win. It truly is deplorable.
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They already have what law in Russia?
And anyhow, so what?
And anyhow, so what?
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Our Russian stooge president would like to turn us into Russia where everything he does will be private and anybody who speaks out can be assassinated.
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If Donald Trump were foolish enough to release his taxes, they would be picked over by an army of liberal lawyers and politicians for the remainder of his term of office. The Adam Schiffs of this world would be demanding investigation after investigation, just as they are now pursuing the illusory Trump-Russia collusion theory in the vain hope of proving that the November election was illegitimate. The government would be tied up for years and nothing would get done. Do Democrats really believe that this is what loyal opposition should be doing?
Eighteen of the top twenty readers picks are from the the states that democrats won overwhelmingly. Welcome to the echo chamber. Seattle agrees with New York, New York agrees with Boston, Boston agrees with Portland., Portland agrees with San Francisco. This is why Trump won. Liberal democrats only listen to people who agree with them.
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Well yes I mean do the deplorable's even read the newspapers?
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You say, "Liberal democrats only listen to people who agree with them," but when have Breitbart readers politely engaged with the left without epithets or threats? Ever been a woman on Twitter? Have you read the comments on any WSJ articles lately? On any story or op-ed even slightly anti-Trump, they're downright unhinged. Maybe that's what got Trump elected, the outrage on the right of anyone presenting evidence that challenges their worldview.
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Right Dan, because "ditto head" was/is a Democrat phenomenon.
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I firmly believe that, in order to "Make America Great Again" we need to extinguish the democracy-devouring flames of knee-jerk partisanship.
If you're concerned about tax avoidance and want fairness, you should be cheering a proposal to eliminate loopholes and setting fixed rates based on income. The current system is complicated, costly, inefficient and by definition unfair.
A productive thing to be focused on, is to prevent the tax burden to shift away from groups with certain income levels to others.
Yes, Trump may benefit from some parts but I don't see how releasing his tax returns would result in a fairer tax system. Should republicans modify their preferred tax code (which was public before he entered politics) because the country elected a billionaire president with loads of entanglements? And how on earth do you see eliminating all exemptions as an attempt to game the system in the first place.
When I first heard of Schumer's comments I thought he was dark humor. This pretext sounds ridiculous and I'm not sure he isn't just looking for a better one to block progress.
A productive thing to be focused on, is to prevent the tax burden to shift away from groups with certain income levels to others.
Yes, Trump may benefit from some parts but I don't see how releasing his tax returns would result in a fairer tax system. Should republicans modify their preferred tax code (which was public before he entered politics) because the country elected a billionaire president with loads of entanglements? And how on earth do you see eliminating all exemptions as an attempt to game the system in the first place.
When I first heard of Schumer's comments I thought he was dark humor. This pretext sounds ridiculous and I'm not sure he isn't just looking for a better one to block progress.
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Why don't we have a federal law that says any candidate running for president, in the primaries or general election release a minimum of 5 years of tax returns. If not federal, why not individual state laws? Certainly, if the states can enact voter suppression laws, they can require a person's tax returns to get on the ballot.
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Taxes pay for the incredible amounts of money spent on security for Trump and his large family and the many homes they occupy.
As well, taxes pay for Trump flying back and forth every weekend on Air Force One. Are we not all being charged for his guests staying at Mar-a-Lago?
It behooves Trump to show Americans his tax returns from the last five years. Why does he think he is exempt?
Should we all just 'eat cake'?
As well, taxes pay for Trump flying back and forth every weekend on Air Force One. Are we not all being charged for his guests staying at Mar-a-Lago?
It behooves Trump to show Americans his tax returns from the last five years. Why does he think he is exempt?
Should we all just 'eat cake'?
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Frank Luntz, bless him for being an accomplished spinmeister, says that Trump's missing tax returns are of little interest to voters.
I wonder, Herr Luntz, how voters would respond if you asked them "do you favor or oppose Donald Trump and his family accruing huge tax cut benefits, further enriching themselves, by pushing tax reform legislation that gives breaks to the ultra-wealthy but requires middle and lower income households to pay more taxes?"
I wonder, Herr Luntz, how voters would respond if you asked them "do you favor or oppose Donald Trump and his family accruing huge tax cut benefits, further enriching themselves, by pushing tax reform legislation that gives breaks to the ultra-wealthy but requires middle and lower income households to pay more taxes?"
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The only possibility of Trump releasing his taxes is if the GOP abandons him on this issue during their run-up to tax reform legislation. The GOP leadership has allowed Trump to conduct foreign policy at Mar-A-Largo. The GOP has backed him up with when he was writing unconstitutional Executive Orders around travel bans. In other words, Trump knows he can get away with this because of the enablers in the GOP. Unless, or until they cease this enabling, Trump's despotic actions, he will continue to stonewall this issue.
I've been very annoyed lately by repeated claims that Trump has consistently said he would not release his tax returns. In fact, he promised to release them many times over the past several years. Just like he promises virtually anything he thinks people want to hear, then reneges on his meaningless promises.
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Why on earth should I pay taxes that support Secret Service protection for Trump's spawn's trips to Aspen, South America, etc. The adult sons, Ivanka, and Jared are enriching their "brands" at taxpayer expense, while Daddy brags how smart he is to pay zero to little tax. When was the last time a Trump voter took the kids to Aspen on a ski vacation? How can Trump voters not be outraged? Like the bumper sticker says. they must not be paying attention.
At this point, does it really matter if Trump releases his tax returns?
His constant refusals have told us all we need to know and to believe that there would be no incriminating information is just childish. We know it and so does Trump.
The following is part of the presidential oath:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
As I see it, he's perjured himself by his actions and has made a mockery of the constitution. It's time to start impeachment proceedings!
His constant refusals have told us all we need to know and to believe that there would be no incriminating information is just childish. We know it and so does Trump.
The following is part of the presidential oath:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
As I see it, he's perjured himself by his actions and has made a mockery of the constitution. It's time to start impeachment proceedings!
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There is obviously something embarrassing about Trumps taxes. Most likely it's the level of international investment that utterly contradicts his disgusting protectionist rhetoric. If there's one simple fix to our deficit problems it would be to forbid the offshoring of investments by the ultra rich and ensure those investments are taxed fairly by the IRS. How big is this problem? With Trump and the Republicans in charge we'll never know, but my guess is that it's YUGE.
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Notice how Russian trolls attempt to make the Truth look like a lie by marginalizing the truth and placing it in a setting where it can be ridiculed and mocked as fanciful, crazy or ridiculous. Or they attempt discredit the source. Or they attempt to project the actions of Trump/the GOP/the conservative onto anyone else that opposes Trump. Then they repeat this lie (the truth twisted), they flood the media, to where people, that see the familiar as being truth, begin to believe it. Even the Trump supporters, telling the lie over and over begin to believe it.
The Dems might howl, but overall, the American people just don't care.
Trump's taxes were a big issue during the campaign. Dems said we need to see your taxes in order to determine if there are any conflicts of interest. Trump said, too bad, so sad - I ain't releasing them. America voted for Trump anyway.
Now Dems are saying the same thing - we need to see your taxes in order to determine if there are any conflicts of interest. Sorry, but the next election is 4 years away. When have you known Trump to back down because of Dem howling? Better to spend energy on finding a decent challenger for the next election.
Trump's taxes were a big issue during the campaign. Dems said we need to see your taxes in order to determine if there are any conflicts of interest. Trump said, too bad, so sad - I ain't releasing them. America voted for Trump anyway.
Now Dems are saying the same thing - we need to see your taxes in order to determine if there are any conflicts of interest. Sorry, but the next election is 4 years away. When have you known Trump to back down because of Dem howling? Better to spend energy on finding a decent challenger for the next election.
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Mr. Trump will not release his tax returns. It is obvious that 1) he is not as rich as he says he is, although he is very wealthy; 2) he hasn't given a dime to charities until the WP called him on his pledge to veterans during the campaign and he welched on his promises to his buddies Rudy and Howard; 3) he has monetary entanglements with Russian oligarchs and other nefarious people. Although obvious, this is still speculation and his supporters can minimize this info. If Mr. Trump were to release his taxes, then what is obvious will be proven.
And so Mr. Trump and the GOP are stuck. He will not release his returns and any tax plan that further re-distributes wealth to 0.1% as all of the GOP plans do will be met with howls of protests. That freezes the GOP in Congress and nothing will get done.
And so Mr. Trump and the GOP are stuck. He will not release his returns and any tax plan that further re-distributes wealth to 0.1% as all of the GOP plans do will be met with howls of protests. That freezes the GOP in Congress and nothing will get done.
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Most revealing part of the article is Republican former ways and means chairman's quote at end:
'Obviously, there is a lot at stake here" Mr. Camp said. "Health care is 20 percent of the economy, but tax reform is 100 percent of the economy".
Hmm..i guess he's right if you consider Republicans like regressive taxation--and would prefer to allow rich folks and corporations to keep 100 percent of their money.
'Obviously, there is a lot at stake here" Mr. Camp said. "Health care is 20 percent of the economy, but tax reform is 100 percent of the economy".
Hmm..i guess he's right if you consider Republicans like regressive taxation--and would prefer to allow rich folks and corporations to keep 100 percent of their money.
If Trump releases his tax returns, and if there is something in them that justifies all the fuss, there will be a huge reaction. To which Mr. Trump will create a distraction of enough gravitas and/or drama to get our attention elsewhere. Given the saber rattling of North Korea lately, it seem it might be better to just forget it.
I cannot fathom how an audit would be a reason to withhold your taxes. How about letting us see the returns from 2014? Are those still under audit?
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Trump and his enablers making a big mistake on this one. Jane and Joe America pay taxes, every year, most without the advantages of CPAs and tax attorneys. They see no reason why Trump cannot release his tax returns and think he has something to hide. Release your taxes or have voters thinking you are lying and ceiling them.
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Do I think Trump is a crook? Of course; who wouldn't?
But is it necessary for him to release his returns in order for Congress to write legislation? At first blush, yes; but we know that everyone in all three branches of government has a personal stake in the tax code and is in many cases dependent on the political support of people who have a huge stake in the law. Are we to pour through all of their returns to see who benefits and who loses for each provision in the law?
And what do we do with that information? If writing off business interest benefits Trump, should we toss the deduction and thereby deny it to the local baker and candlestick maker as well?
So saying we can't work on the tax code until we know the impact on the Pres. is disingenuous. There are other battles to be fought.
And what the heck? Maybe if we didn't pry so much, we'd get more qualified people who have had a rich career outside of politics to run for office.
But is it necessary for him to release his returns in order for Congress to write legislation? At first blush, yes; but we know that everyone in all three branches of government has a personal stake in the tax code and is in many cases dependent on the political support of people who have a huge stake in the law. Are we to pour through all of their returns to see who benefits and who loses for each provision in the law?
And what do we do with that information? If writing off business interest benefits Trump, should we toss the deduction and thereby deny it to the local baker and candlestick maker as well?
So saying we can't work on the tax code until we know the impact on the Pres. is disingenuous. There are other battles to be fought.
And what the heck? Maybe if we didn't pry so much, we'd get more qualified people who have had a rich career outside of politics to run for office.
In the history of any presidential office, has there ever been so many of the presidential team, to include the president himself, involved with Russia?.....ever?
In the history of the presidential office, has any other nation, as the Russians have, ever been identified as undermining our nations elections?....ever?
In the history of any presidential office, has both of the above ever happened simultaneously?....ever?
At the same time, has the methods used by the Russians to interfere with the US elections, was there any other time when any nation, as Russia did, also attacked the Ukraine's and Europe's election process?....ever?
In the history of the presidential office, has any other nation, as the Russians have, ever been identified as undermining our nations elections?....ever?
In the history of any presidential office, has both of the above ever happened simultaneously?....ever?
At the same time, has the methods used by the Russians to interfere with the US elections, was there any other time when any nation, as Russia did, also attacked the Ukraine's and Europe's election process?....ever?
Fill in the Blanks- Donald Trumps Boilerplate answers to failure:
The President said that the failed _____________ was due to the legacy of President Obama and the Democrats.
Insert: Immigration Policy, Healthcare Reform,Tax Policy.
The President said that the failed _____________ was due to the legacy of President Obama and the Democrats.
Insert: Immigration Policy, Healthcare Reform,Tax Policy.
Trump will still be president whether or not he releases his tax returns. The tax code still needs revision whether or not he releases his tax returns. In fact, nothing really depends on whether he releases his tax returns except whether the angry left is appeased.
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And the angry left will not be appeased, anyway.
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Once again, a case of do as I say not do as I do.
This refrain is getting so old, but it's a classic and the Republicans just can't stop singing it!
Everyone knows Trump is a liar, a cheat and soulless to the extreme. Everyone!
So why should we expect anything different now that he's in office?
Golf trips on the public dole anyone?
This refrain is getting so old, but it's a classic and the Republicans just can't stop singing it!
Everyone knows Trump is a liar, a cheat and soulless to the extreme. Everyone!
So why should we expect anything different now that he's in office?
Golf trips on the public dole anyone?
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trump charges the taxpayer for every piece of maraloco chocolate cake he and those he invites to the us taxpayer
( oh, and for all the food/rooms there for all the guests and all the SS agents guarding him and in his new dc hotel too )
have a nice day
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You people just don't get it, how can you show your income taxes when they are being audited, and the IRS does every year to Trump. You have to take responsibility for your regime the last 8 years and understand the people were sick and tired of being lied to and cheated, taxed, lied to, taxed, and a health program that drove up the cost of RX for everyone, some over 3000%. These are the reasons President Trump is in office and trying to change the status quo, that you complained about the career politicians. Take your medicine and bear it, you are to blame for losing.
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Audit is the hold up? Why? Were his returns so grossly fraudulent that they can't withstand scrutiny?
It's all a farce. Of course, you get the sense that if he claimed he could not release the returns because microbes from the planet Zircon were watching, his supporters would ape that line too.
It's all a farce. Of course, you get the sense that if he claimed he could not release the returns because microbes from the planet Zircon were watching, his supporters would ape that line too.
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Given that Trump refuses to release his tax returns, the reasonable conclusion has to be the fact that he's hiding something that would force him to resign or be impeached.
Tax reform is dead either way, if he releases them or doesn't. Anyone else tired of all this winning yet?
I don't care how tax reform helps or hurts Trump. I only care how it helps me. My representatives were elected to represent ME, not worry about Trump's tax situation. Trump's situation is irrelevant.
Let's repeal FATCA and switch to residency-based taxation like every other country in the world.
Let's repeal FATCA and switch to residency-based taxation like every other country in the world.
It's hard to imagine how much more chaos, lying and dangerous international brinksmanship it will take to galvanize us as a country into recognizing this is no way to conduct a presidency. Everyday in the newspapers and on TV, those of us who engage in some form of protest or opposition to the Trump regime are called "progressives," as if there can be no conservative, no moderate, and no unlabeled person who could ever oppose Mr. Trump's administration. In reality, we represent a wide range of political viewpoints and personal conscience. What unites us is that we acknowledge this President is either intentionally or recklessly destroying our democracy, ruining the progress we have made in protecting our people and our resources, and creating divisions among nations the same as he did among us here at home. Opposing Mr. Trump is neither progressive nor conservative. It is American.
I'm sure the people who believe that the tax returns are an irrelevant distraction and none of anyone's business will not be changing their minds anytime soon. I recall that it was "I am not a crook" Richard Nixon who began the tradition of releasing returns in order to show he was not a crook. "Crooked Hillary" also released every page of all her returns for about the last 30 years.
So what's stopping honest Don? When he worked for a privately held company ie. himself, perhaps he had an excuse. But now he works for me and I would like to get some idea of where my money is going.
So what's stopping honest Don? When he worked for a privately held company ie. himself, perhaps he had an excuse. But now he works for me and I would like to get some idea of where my money is going.
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Given how much Trump has lied and misled, it can only be assumed that he has plenty to hide and his deceit and conflicts of interest continue in his taxes like they do in his family's daily international business dealings.
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Once again this president is breaking new ground. Nothing he does encourages anyone to trust his words. He has reversed numerous positions he took during the campaign now that he is in office. His staff repeatedly tries to defend outlandish and unfounded tweets he makes early in the morning regarding issues of great importance and issues involving petty personal observations about his "enemies". Now he will try to usher a tax reform plan through both houses which will require support and trust from congress and the public in general. What has he done to engender trust. He steadfastly refuses to release his tax returns which would answer many questions, including whether he would personally benefit from the new tax plan. Why should anyone trust this man? Simple answer....they shouldn't.
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Trump must release his tax return or he can forget about reelection. But he probably should forget about reelection anyhow. Warren will beat him and is the right match for him ---smarter and a better talker.
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there will not be an america in 4 years
wake up
We are left to assume he pays virtually nothing in taxes. Otherwise, why the fuss?
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No tax reform until the President clears himself of any conflict of interests while in office. Hence, he will have to releases his taxes as well as the list of visitors to the White House and Mar-A-Lago.
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i could care less about his tax returns.
the only thing i want to read is his obituary.
the only thing i want to read is his obituary.
No Congressman can go back to constituents and say "the President has a right to hide this information from you."
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For that matter, all members of Congress should also disclose all of their tax returns. After all, they are also voting for any tax laws/reforms/whatever. They also have financial interest. It isn't just DT.
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"Mr. Camp said. “Health care is 20 percent of the economy, but tax reform is 100 percent of the economy.”
Beautiful!
Donald J. Trump has just provided the example-than-which-none-greater-can-be-conceived of triabalistic sociopathy: someone who is willing to subordinate basically 100% of the economic well-being of rest of the people who are also citizens to the interests of himself and his family.
This is narcissism on steroids.
Beautiful!
Donald J. Trump has just provided the example-than-which-none-greater-can-be-conceived of triabalistic sociopathy: someone who is willing to subordinate basically 100% of the economic well-being of rest of the people who are also citizens to the interests of himself and his family.
This is narcissism on steroids.
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While all the intrigue may indeed be true, I half suspect Trump doesn't want to release his tax returns because he's not as rich and powerful as he would like everyone to believe. Wealthier than most people certainly but not a master of the universe by any means. When searching for motive with Trump, I always begin with vanity.
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We need legislation that requires every public official, national, state & local make their tax returns public; including the judiciary. This will end all speculation forever more.
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Every politician pledges to "simplify" our tax code. But the tax code is *the* primary leverage politicians and legislatures have over various interests and industries. Tweaking the tax code in a thousand different ways is largely the meat and potatoes of being a politician -- it is how they become relevant, and how they make sure they donations to campaigns and jobs as lobbyists when they leave office.
Any politician who claims they want to simplify the tax code is lying, because they would be eliminating 75% of how they accrue power.
Any politician who claims they want to simplify the tax code is lying, because they would be eliminating 75% of how they accrue power.
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It is a fairly safe bet that Trump's tax returns contain information that will make obvious to even the most gullible the magnitude of The Great Con Artist's Greatest Con that was perpetrated upon the American people. Trump and his minions do not want those who voted for him to see that the emperor is not, in fact, wearing a new suit of clothes. Want the truth? Follow the money!
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"Sometimes the sanest reaction to an insane situation....is Insanity."
We continue to Give "President Trump" Everything his Pathology wishes and demands....including 24/7 Daily Exhibition and Coverage. This single Symptom is merely One of the Six or Seven in the List of his Diagnostic
Battery. Even if he Leads us into War, he will find in such Activity....Reason to Claim Pride of Ownership.
We continue to Give "President Trump" Everything his Pathology wishes and demands....including 24/7 Daily Exhibition and Coverage. This single Symptom is merely One of the Six or Seven in the List of his Diagnostic
Battery. Even if he Leads us into War, he will find in such Activity....Reason to Claim Pride of Ownership.
The arrogance and hypocrisy of this president amazes me. It is so frustrating to read every day of the havoc and destruction that he and his family and cohorts are wreaking on this country. Yet he goes on, tweeting and blundering his way through the first 100 days while the rest of us are living in fear and dread of what is coming next.
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I am truly baffled by the people who say that they don't care about Trump's tax returns.
Either they don't understand what insights the tax returns offer or they are indifferent to or even aiding in the destruction of our democracy. Do they really want our government to devolve into a kleptocracy?
For those who say they don't care about this issue, Trump's tax returns provide insights into:
*whether Trump has conflicts of interest (is he working for himself/his family/his cronies or for the American people?)
*whether Trump pays taxes (and if so, at what marginal rate)
*whether Trump is as successful as a business person as he claims
*whether Trump is as charitable as he claims.
Shouldn't we all want to know this information about our President?
Either they don't understand what insights the tax returns offer or they are indifferent to or even aiding in the destruction of our democracy. Do they really want our government to devolve into a kleptocracy?
For those who say they don't care about this issue, Trump's tax returns provide insights into:
*whether Trump has conflicts of interest (is he working for himself/his family/his cronies or for the American people?)
*whether Trump pays taxes (and if so, at what marginal rate)
*whether Trump is as successful as a business person as he claims
*whether Trump is as charitable as he claims.
Shouldn't we all want to know this information about our President?
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No, they rather just hate Obama and the Clintons.
Please don't include facts into this hatred.
Please don't include facts into this hatred.
Trump wasted the entire transition period. He has developed not policies domestic or foreign except to harass Moslems coming to the US. Trump's mysterious tax returns and other conflicts of interest the NYTs has reported on has raised distrust of Trump to dangerous levels for his presidency. The much ballyhooed Trump Boom before the election now seems to be nothing more than disjointed Tweets. No policies no plans just hot air.
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of all the many things Donald and the Republicans are doing to serve the donor class and misrepresent their constituents, this one about taxes is something voters clearly understand. don't mess with us, Donald.
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Rachel Maddow's show revealed that he pays most of his taxes due to the 'Alternative Minimum Tax.' He intends to get rid of this tax. We know this for a fact.
I hope voters wake up and realized him gloating about shirking his civic responsibility means he thinks we're chumps for fulfilling ours. Him taking a salary and donating it is a double scam for him. He gets the goodwill of being 'charitable' with taxpayer money and a write-off on his other earnings paid by taxpayers.
I hope voters wake up and realized him gloating about shirking his civic responsibility means he thinks we're chumps for fulfilling ours. Him taking a salary and donating it is a double scam for him. He gets the goodwill of being 'charitable' with taxpayer money and a write-off on his other earnings paid by taxpayers.
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We've got this great plan, it's going to do great things for you and this country. Unfortunately it will also benefit Donald Trump and his Billionaire friends. Therefore, you can't have it and neither can anyone else.
That is the state we are now living in. I don't care if a good new tax plan will benefit Donald Trump more than any other person in the country. If it will help me and the middle class, then I want it. For me, good for me and good for the country is what counts, not how it affects Donald Trump.
That is the state we are now living in. I don't care if a good new tax plan will benefit Donald Trump more than any other person in the country. If it will help me and the middle class, then I want it. For me, good for me and good for the country is what counts, not how it affects Donald Trump.
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Who but the dimmest of the dim and the most gullible reality tv fan would vote for someone who is this unfit and unqualified AND wouldn't follow the protocol that every presidential candidate follows?
We need to know he's not a fraud (which he is) or a criminal (which he is) or tied to other countries in ways that would have him beholden (which he is). He needed to divest completely from his business interests (which he hasn't) and agree to stop focusing on them and focus on our country (which he won't).
So what, in the name of god's holy trousers, was the republican voter thinking? Who are you people?
End result: you've saddled us with the most unfit president in US history, a pathological liar whose minions are taking America apart piece by piece and creating the most dangerous climate in our time.
We need to know he's not a fraud (which he is) or a criminal (which he is) or tied to other countries in ways that would have him beholden (which he is). He needed to divest completely from his business interests (which he hasn't) and agree to stop focusing on them and focus on our country (which he won't).
So what, in the name of god's holy trousers, was the republican voter thinking? Who are you people?
End result: you've saddled us with the most unfit president in US history, a pathological liar whose minions are taking America apart piece by piece and creating the most dangerous climate in our time.
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Here's a radical idea.
It's called "a buck is a buck is a buck".
It should not matter what the source of income is -- salary, interest, dividends, or capital gains -- that money should all be subject to taxes at the same rate.
It's called "a buck is a buck is a buck".
It should not matter what the source of income is -- salary, interest, dividends, or capital gains -- that money should all be subject to taxes at the same rate.
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DT's track record proves that he is not the person who will submit to and yield to the outside pressure. In the alternative universe, Mr. Trump believes he is always right despite numerous lies stoking and spread by him- Obama was not born in this country, voter fraud caused his popular votes, the voting system is rigged and mainstream media intentionally create fake news, and etc. DT is an amoral person who is incapable of self-reflection nor caring the judgement of history.
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Being POTUS is quite lucrative for Mr. Trump. I'm sure his org. has made more money in the past five plus months than he has in the past twenty years. He may not want us to see that.
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Nothing surprises me anymore with this guy. You know what's even more disgusting than trump? The GOP.
Sure, we expect this from trump but the the vigor these old white men have for making rules about how we live our personal lives is disgusting. Our VP can't even be in the same room with women without his wife. Bizarre af. Hi mommy!
And lets not forget that the people trying to tell us how to live our life are out banging prostitutes, child molesting, stealing money, making back deals, passing laws for their benefit. I'll never forget some religious convention at the Adams Mark hotel in St. Louis about 15 years ago. I remember a bar full of escorts talking about how the pastors at the convention are keeping them busy 25 hours a day.
And now our great leader is high stepping into world affairs to protect Americans. Who's after Americans in America? All the doom and gloom of crime and terror are just scare tactics. Old white men scare easily. Why are we bothering the middle east? Why are we threatening N. Korea? Why is this country letting old white scared religious men run this country into the ground?
It's pathetic and sick.
Sure, we expect this from trump but the the vigor these old white men have for making rules about how we live our personal lives is disgusting. Our VP can't even be in the same room with women without his wife. Bizarre af. Hi mommy!
And lets not forget that the people trying to tell us how to live our life are out banging prostitutes, child molesting, stealing money, making back deals, passing laws for their benefit. I'll never forget some religious convention at the Adams Mark hotel in St. Louis about 15 years ago. I remember a bar full of escorts talking about how the pastors at the convention are keeping them busy 25 hours a day.
And now our great leader is high stepping into world affairs to protect Americans. Who's after Americans in America? All the doom and gloom of crime and terror are just scare tactics. Old white men scare easily. Why are we bothering the middle east? Why are we threatening N. Korea? Why is this country letting old white scared religious men run this country into the ground?
It's pathetic and sick.
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I protested to get Trump to release his taxes. Where do I go to get paid?
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Many of you seem to think that Trump became President to make money?
It's really laughable, as though he needs to amass more money?
Trump is President because he loves the United States and its People and he wants to help and protect us.
It's really laughable, as though he needs to amass more money?
Trump is President because he loves the United States and its People and he wants to help and protect us.
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The kleptocracy doesn't hurt either.
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Trump is President because he loves the United States and its People and he wants to help and protect us.
then why did he never do anything about that till he was 70 ?
not a cent to charity in his entire life
no effort expended personally
nothing
and why does he not pay his taxes, if he loves you so much
then why did he never do anything about that till he was 70 ?
not a cent to charity in his entire life
no effort expended personally
nothing
and why does he not pay his taxes, if he loves you so much
Mr.Trump should follow the traditions of the land-reveal his taxes as every President has done in the past.He should not be an exclusion from this exposure.More over he should not have put his daughter and son in law officially his advisers when there are many smarter and loyal Americans ready to do the job for the country.America is not Trump household
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Just sent a check to the IRS. Unlike Trump, I pay my taxes. I can't say it doesn't pain me however...watching millions literally go up in smoke via bombs and millions more to subsidize Trump's Mar-a-Lago profiteering escapades when there are so many real needs in America.
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There are some basic responsibilities to holding public office, transparency is one. This is very murky and shady A.F. We the people are paying his rent and his salary, some of this "we" also elected him to perform the duties... Releasing his taxes is one of his duties.
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If you are a law abiding, tax paying citizen, in Donald Trump's eyes you are a "sucker". And Donald Trump is clearly a follower of W.C. Fields approach to business (and the title of a film he starred in) which is "Never give a sucker an even break!". This is what we have been reduced to as a nation.
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One need only look at the debacle that was the AHCA to see that Trump really doesn't have all that much influence over Congress. It is Congress that will pass any tax reform, not Trump. Frankly, if we are truly concerned about conflict of interest then I am more interested in seeing the tax returns of every single member of congress. My understanding is that the majority do not release their own returns.
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Trump wont release his taxes unless compelled to do so by upcoming election returns.
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Given that some of the most common reasons given for voting for Trump are that "he's rich" and "incredibly successful" make seeing his tax returns even more important. I wouldn't be surprised that much of what he does is a shell game. Either way, the tax code will have an enormous impact on someone who's extremely wealthy, or devious. As citizens we have a right to make sure that those who govern are not cheating us for their own gain. Incompetence and secrecy are a terrifying mix. I am grateful to all who are keeping the pressure on for transparency and the public welfare.
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With or without 'tax reform' President Trump has managed to convert the Oval Office of our White House into his individual, family and corporate regional profitable financial advantage satellite office.
Instead of 'slumming it" by staying at the White House or staying at Camp David, President Trump prefers his Florida Palace aka Mar-a-Lago while his wife aka Third Lady Melania treasures living in the golden splendor of Trump Tower.
Instead of 'slumming it" by staying at the White House or staying at Camp David, President Trump prefers his Florida Palace aka Mar-a-Lago while his wife aka Third Lady Melania treasures living in the golden splendor of Trump Tower.
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Release of trump's tax returns will only result from a court ordering him to do so. If that occurs, the result will profoundly transcend his administration's ability to reform the tax code. If could result in "connecting the dots" between trump, Russian collusion in the collection and explain why trump has cozied up to Putin. It could result in in the downfall of trump as president.
The case of CREW v. Trump, currently pending in federal court in the Southern District of NY, could result in such court order.
The case of CREW v. Trump, currently pending in federal court in the Southern District of NY, could result in such court order.
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The rich politicians have always and still do write the tax laws that benefit the rich who then contribute to those politicians reelection campaigns. It's a nice little closed society.
The tax laws, the tax code, is complex only because the rich want it that way for their beneficial use to claim the specialized Exemptions, Exclusions and Paper Tax Credits that greatly reduce their "tax burden."
Trump, Ryan and the republicans in congress want to reduce the "burden" on the rich to next to nothing. The rich will get richer at the expense of the poor and middle class.
Do the wealthy, the 1%, the rich, the wealthiest 4.4% of Americans deserve to get tax cuts to make them even wealthier? At the expense of the poor and middle class who will, who absolutely will, pay for those tax cuts?
These wealthy people don't even pay their fair share of taxes now. Trump is the prime example by his bragging that he hasn't paid taxes in twenty years and his saying that he does not believe in paying taxes.
If you are not among the rich, do not believe for a second that you are going to get a tax break by anything written by Trump, Ryan and the republican congress. You are not and never will be. It is not in the personal interest of the republicans to give the Average Americans anything. Just look at what they want to cut and gut of the current government, our government, and the programs and services we all have now.
The tax laws, the tax code, is complex only because the rich want it that way for their beneficial use to claim the specialized Exemptions, Exclusions and Paper Tax Credits that greatly reduce their "tax burden."
Trump, Ryan and the republicans in congress want to reduce the "burden" on the rich to next to nothing. The rich will get richer at the expense of the poor and middle class.
Do the wealthy, the 1%, the rich, the wealthiest 4.4% of Americans deserve to get tax cuts to make them even wealthier? At the expense of the poor and middle class who will, who absolutely will, pay for those tax cuts?
These wealthy people don't even pay their fair share of taxes now. Trump is the prime example by his bragging that he hasn't paid taxes in twenty years and his saying that he does not believe in paying taxes.
If you are not among the rich, do not believe for a second that you are going to get a tax break by anything written by Trump, Ryan and the republican congress. You are not and never will be. It is not in the personal interest of the republicans to give the Average Americans anything. Just look at what they want to cut and gut of the current government, our government, and the programs and services we all have now.
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"Republicans argue that Democrats are putting politics ahead of an opportunity to fix a broken tax system". That one line actually made me laugh. After eight long years of obstructionism, suddenly Republicans want co-operation from the other side. If they want co-operation, Republicans first need to instill trust by uniting and demanding Trump release his tax returns. Then perhaps there will be a bi-partisan effort to fix tax codes that favor the wealthy.
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Is this not the very definition of hostage taking; holding the entire country hostage on the grounds that DT might benefit from reform? Should not the idea -- tax reform -- stand on its own merits, judged on the basis of the benefit to the country, not on the identity of its advocates or the personal benefit to the POTUS?
This shows -- again -- that the Dems are not a serious Party; they are not really interested in policy which helps the county, if that policy also helps people they don't like. They are happy to consign the entire country to misery rather than see "the rich" receive any benefit at all. This is what happens when blind envy guides behavior.
In short, the Dems are all over "afflicting the comfortable", even if that means that comforting the afflicted -- as a booming economy does -- must be sacrificed.
This shows -- again -- that the Dems are not a serious Party; they are not really interested in policy which helps the county, if that policy also helps people they don't like. They are happy to consign the entire country to misery rather than see "the rich" receive any benefit at all. This is what happens when blind envy guides behavior.
In short, the Dems are all over "afflicting the comfortable", even if that means that comforting the afflicted -- as a booming economy does -- must be sacrificed.
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This is not hostage-taking. This is Resistance against a conspiracy to defraud the America public. The guy is self-dealing. He is in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. He may be a traitor; the taxes may show foreign entities have power over him due to his indebtedness.
We the People demand to see his taxes. We are tired of his lying, his prevaricating, his arrogant undermining of our Republic and his willful ignorant refusal to listen to a majority of us.
If there were any Justice in the Justice Dept under Sessions, he would likely be indicted by now. If there were any Patriotiism among GOP Pols, he would be Impeached by now.
We the People demand to see his taxes. We are tired of his lying, his prevaricating, his arrogant undermining of our Republic and his willful ignorant refusal to listen to a majority of us.
If there were any Justice in the Justice Dept under Sessions, he would likely be indicted by now. If there were any Patriotiism among GOP Pols, he would be Impeached by now.
Who is being held hostage? No doing tax reform simply means status quo on our tax situation. While everyone agrees tax reform should be done, there is no life or death situation. There is no government shutdown like when Congress didn't pass a budget. While I don't agree with everything the Democrats say or do, framing the Democrats' (and others') demand to see Donal Trump's tax returns can hardly be compared to a hostake taking situation.
Michael, please be honest, will you? Tax reform? What is that going to look like? Lower taxes on corporations and businesses? Lower tax rates for wealthy donors? If you believe a tax reduction will stimulate business growth and hiring, I have some beach front property for you to buy in Tuscan AZ! The CEOs will take that extra cash and stuff it in their pockets and give the rest to a handful of shareholders. There will be no expansion of R&D, no expansion of the workforce, no expansion of their businesses. It is a myth.
I've been doing my own taxes since I was 16, and my understanding grew along with the complexity of my situation. While the tax code is complicated, the ignorance of many tax payers goes further. Many of my fellow citizens clearly do not understand the concept of graduated tax rates. Some think that if one more dollar puts you in the next higher bracket, your taxes go up on your whole income. People claim to be paying half their income in taxes, apparently arriving at that number by adding the top marginal rate to FICA. Cut the taxes on the top bracket--as Reagan did--and people think they got a tax cut. I have a suggestion: A few years ago, just for fun, I downloaded the 1913 form 1040--the form number has never changed. You had to calculate your taxes bracket by bracket and then add up. It was easy to see how the system worked. I suggest the IRS remove the tax tables from the instruction booklet and make everybody calculate their taxes like they did in 1913. It might eliminate a lot of bitching and raise the level of public discourse about taxes.
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Waiting for Don the Con and his grifter clan to tell the truth? Why? They lie.
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Trump should release his taxes and get it over with...Looks like he has something to hide.
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Yes, he does. That would most likely be his activities in money laundering for Russian and Ukrainian Oligarchs.
Subjected to Trump's LIES and childishness for years, this latest tax release dodge should not be a surprise. For him, the ends always justify the means as long as he wins and covers his actions.
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Unfortunately, Democrats fold like a cheap tent, while Republicans steamroll.
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Yet another chapter in Trump's 'Project for the New Russian Century'.
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Where oh where is the heroic and patriotic IRS employee who will "leak" Trump's tax returns to the media? One can only hope.
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What do you have to hide, Trump? Oh that's right. Everything.
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The election is over; a lot of the 'leverage' to make this happen is gone. I think it would take a MAJOR revolution of people marching in the streets to get Trump to pony up his returns.....I'm past thinking we'll see his returns is a possibility.
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People don't care because it won't change anything. No one, least of all democrats, has come up with a coherent argument why he must release his tax returns at this point. Claiming he's "hiding something" is about as legitimate as claiming "he's a successful businessman". They're both conjecture about the past.
People are clearly becoming more comfortable with him and satisfied with his handling of current events. His tax returns have no bearing on his presidency. He's in full compliance with the IRS. That does matter.
People are clearly becoming more comfortable with him and satisfied with his handling of current events. His tax returns have no bearing on his presidency. He's in full compliance with the IRS. That does matter.
Elsewhere in the NY Times a contributor headlines his report with the words: "America is losing the Credibility War".....this is a prime example of the truth, which he explains in the body of his report. Though not of world-wide importance. I believe that before the end of his term, Trump will also cease to be "of worldwide importace".........
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Get rid of all deductions..... That IS the loophole that creates wealth inequality.
If a worker has to buy food, shelter and power to go to work every-day then WHY isn't that a "business deductible"???? The worker cannot provide work without paying these expenses, yet cannot claim them as a " business deduction " ???? That is where the business world gets away tax free while having millions in " business " wealth they use for their own enjoyment and written off as a "deductible".
Deductibles are the curse. A system of picking the winners and losers. The reason the top ten maintain too much wealth in the world and never have to pay their share.
Get rid of all deductibles and tax rates will plummet down to 1% because now EVERYONE no matter what they buy has to pay their FAIR share.
If a worker has to buy food, shelter and power to go to work every-day then WHY isn't that a "business deductible"???? The worker cannot provide work without paying these expenses, yet cannot claim them as a " business deduction " ???? That is where the business world gets away tax free while having millions in " business " wealth they use for their own enjoyment and written off as a "deductible".
Deductibles are the curse. A system of picking the winners and losers. The reason the top ten maintain too much wealth in the world and never have to pay their share.
Get rid of all deductibles and tax rates will plummet down to 1% because now EVERYONE no matter what they buy has to pay their FAIR share.
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The 'Original' PATRIOTS of our Country fought the 'AMERICAN REVOLUTION'
over 'Taxation without Representation'. Hundreds of thousands of Americans took to the streets on SATURDAY because they know without 'Transparency' 'We The People' have no way of knowing who the PRESIDENT 'Represents'. They know that until the President and Corporations and 'every' Senator and Congressman release their TAXES it's impossible to have a democracy 'For the PEOPLE and by The PEOPLE'. By fighting to uphold the 'Foundational Principal' 'No Taxation Without Representation' they are upholding the basic tenet on which our GREAT COUNTRY was born. The 'New' American Patriots….God Bless Them!!
over 'Taxation without Representation'. Hundreds of thousands of Americans took to the streets on SATURDAY because they know without 'Transparency' 'We The People' have no way of knowing who the PRESIDENT 'Represents'. They know that until the President and Corporations and 'every' Senator and Congressman release their TAXES it's impossible to have a democracy 'For the PEOPLE and by The PEOPLE'. By fighting to uphold the 'Foundational Principal' 'No Taxation Without Representation' they are upholding the basic tenet on which our GREAT COUNTRY was born. The 'New' American Patriots….God Bless Them!!
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Whatever Trumps promises are ,or what he is failing to do ,he & Republicans cannot escape is that nothing can be done in Washington unless it is bipartisan PERIOD. If not in Georgia's special election, then in 2018, there will be a tidalwave. Americans can all agree on healthcare & infrastructure ,they are very willing to pay for it. Lowering taxes on the rich is a No-go. Creates more debt, just as the Bush tax reductions added trillions of dollars to our national debt in a time of war. Trump is not investing in our future but antiquated sources of energy. Antiquated nationalism that led to two world wars. To deregulation & deconstruction with the goal of returning America to a time before Sinclair Lewis & Teddy Roosevelt when Americans died in manufacturing or were poisoned in their homes. It is not a Left or Right issue, it is a survival issue. Trump hates America if it is not an America of his own design. It is not his America, but OUR America, & it takes bi-partisanship. PERIOD. Good luck to Mr. Ossoff. We need more like him.
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It amazes me that his supporters continue to support him when he flip flops almost daily on issues and when it is clear his campaign promises were made to be broken. What has he accomplished thusfar. OK, he appointed a Supreme Court justice. And??????
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How long does an audit take? We've been hearing Trump's "audit" excuse for how long now? Can't the IRS speed it up?
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Tax reform? This administration cannot agree on what day it is - let alone reforming tax code. The idea that Trump is lauding "tax reform" without ever showing his returns should make everyone (even his die-hard "he's gonna build us that wall" supporters) very nervous.
More nerve wracking is that the only time Trump's poll numbers rose was after he ordered bombing in Syria. This man's ego is only outmatched by his ignorance. I don't see what will stop him from ordering military strikes in other sovereign nations simply to distract attention from, and rally folks behind himself.
The day after the election I was in shock - then somewhat amused by the blatant easily disproved lies, but now we are in real trouble. There is no leader at the helm, and the world knows it. The "man-child" elected by an electoral college (put in place to stop exactly this) is an uninformed egotist that has surrounded himself with "yes men."
Might I suggest to the far right that ... you have your SCOTUS pick in place ... you will never get the wall ... now it's time to wake up and realize Trump does not care about you. Coal miners, farmers, auto workers, et al you have been duped by the best huckster ever to roll through D.C. Tax reform? I'd like to see this man get through one week without flip flopping on ANYTHING. He will never get an approved budget through, because he disagrees with himself on most issues.
More nerve wracking is that the only time Trump's poll numbers rose was after he ordered bombing in Syria. This man's ego is only outmatched by his ignorance. I don't see what will stop him from ordering military strikes in other sovereign nations simply to distract attention from, and rally folks behind himself.
The day after the election I was in shock - then somewhat amused by the blatant easily disproved lies, but now we are in real trouble. There is no leader at the helm, and the world knows it. The "man-child" elected by an electoral college (put in place to stop exactly this) is an uninformed egotist that has surrounded himself with "yes men."
Might I suggest to the far right that ... you have your SCOTUS pick in place ... you will never get the wall ... now it's time to wake up and realize Trump does not care about you. Coal miners, farmers, auto workers, et al you have been duped by the best huckster ever to roll through D.C. Tax reform? I'd like to see this man get through one week without flip flopping on ANYTHING. He will never get an approved budget through, because he disagrees with himself on most issues.
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This is the Founders' nightmare, "No taxation without representation" isn't some flimsy adage, it is the PRINCIPLE CONCEPT of this nation. And we for damn sure will not be satisfied with some "partial release" of Trump's returns like that stunt he pulled with Maddow, we (true) Americans want the full monty! This illegitimate clown is nothing but a wholesale crook and a national disgrace.
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Let's try Trump speak:
What's he hiding?
I hear he's owned by Putin's folk. They loan him billions. People say this.
What's he hiding?
I hear he's owned by Putin's folk. They loan him billions. People say this.
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There's already enough evidence that he is turning the US into a subsidiary of Trump University except we can't sue him for fraud. Maybe "Lock him up!" should be the chant of choice.
Trump's promises? Now, stop laughting. Surely his promises are worth something.
I figure maybe about a dollar. For all of them together in a bundle. You won't mind if it's a Zimbabwean dollar, will you?
We must get used to the fact that whatever comes out of his pouty mouth is pretty much worthless and that it's okay, because his base won't care.
Trump doesn't care about you or me or the rest of the American people, except his motley base, the mob that got him where he is today. Top of the heap, king of the hill, better than everybody in the world, the universe, and beyond. So, promises? Schmomises.
You can tell how happy Trump is. How much he's enjoying himself.
Can't you?
I figure maybe about a dollar. For all of them together in a bundle. You won't mind if it's a Zimbabwean dollar, will you?
We must get used to the fact that whatever comes out of his pouty mouth is pretty much worthless and that it's okay, because his base won't care.
Trump doesn't care about you or me or the rest of the American people, except his motley base, the mob that got him where he is today. Top of the heap, king of the hill, better than everybody in the world, the universe, and beyond. So, promises? Schmomises.
You can tell how happy Trump is. How much he's enjoying himself.
Can't you?
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When the president decides that he is above the laws it sends a message to the rest of us: laws are for little people. Yes, it's a tradition for presidents to release their tax returns. No, he isn't breaking the law by refusing to do so. However, other actions he has recently taken, like deciding not to release the logs of White House visitors, suggest that there is something to hide. While we don't need to know every little thing a president says or does, we should be able to find out the broad outlines. Without knowing how he's made and continues to make money, we cannot judge how honest he is or how trustworthy he is on financial matters. He was not elected to deceive us or to reshape the tax structure in America to favor him, his business associates, or his family. Yet that seems to be what he's doing and what his cabinet is doing: reshaping America to fit with their financial interests and personal beliefs even when common sense says otherwise.
To use Trump's favorite word: SAD!!!!!!!
To use Trump's favorite word: SAD!!!!!!!
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Wikileaks! If you are listening, release all of Trump's tax returns!!!
Oh wait, I forgot, you both work for Vladimir... never mind
Oh wait, I forgot, you both work for Vladimir... never mind
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Julian Assange has been asking for leaks of the Trump taxes for almost two years now.
Here is some recent news coverage of this request:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-broken-promise-wikileaks-seeks-donald-...
This neo-Red Baiting is pathetic.
https://emcphd.wordpress.com
Here is some recent news coverage of this request:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-broken-promise-wikileaks-seeks-donald-...
This neo-Red Baiting is pathetic.
https://emcphd.wordpress.com
Spicer?
Every imperial court needs a jester . . .
Every imperial court needs a jester . . .
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It seems this is another thing that is really complicated..... Who knew?
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Richard Nixon said "The American people have a right to know whether their President is a Crook"
YES! Release the tax returns you treasonous coward!
YES! Release the tax returns you treasonous coward!
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OK President Trump and Sean Spicer,
We get it - you do not want to disclose President Trump's taxes, who President Trump meets, and who President Trump plays golf with. We get it, loud and clear.
However, the American people need to know this information since President Trump hold the public good in his hands and knowing this information is important for the public good. Therefore, reporters should dig everywhere possible, sue under FOIA and other statutory authorities, and keep watch, to get this information and report it - loudly and clearly.
Remember this, President Trump - you work for the American People, and we are your boss. You are not our boss. We the people need to know who you are cutting deals with. This information is required to make sure our welfare is assured, and to make sure you are not undercutting the American public's welfare for the sake of your benefit and the benefit of your family.
We get it - you do not want to disclose President Trump's taxes, who President Trump meets, and who President Trump plays golf with. We get it, loud and clear.
However, the American people need to know this information since President Trump hold the public good in his hands and knowing this information is important for the public good. Therefore, reporters should dig everywhere possible, sue under FOIA and other statutory authorities, and keep watch, to get this information and report it - loudly and clearly.
Remember this, President Trump - you work for the American People, and we are your boss. You are not our boss. We the people need to know who you are cutting deals with. This information is required to make sure our welfare is assured, and to make sure you are not undercutting the American public's welfare for the sake of your benefit and the benefit of your family.
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Where is wiki leaks when you need it?
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What would stop Trump from FAKING his tax returns and then releasing that information?
Those who don't think this is possible have not been paying attention.
Those who don't think this is possible have not been paying attention.
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When Trump talks about fixing the tax code, I think he is using the term "fixing" in the same way a bookie talks about "fixing" a boxing match or a hockey game. I fully expect that next week Sean Spicer will be standing in front of journalists using his fingers to denote quotation marks (air quotes) regarding Trump's use of the word.
Mr. Spicer:
"When the president refers to (air quote) fixing (air quote), he doesn't mean repairing something broken, but "fixing" the current status quo so he can permanently benefit from the benefits he now recieves under the current tax laws, which are quite reasonable for a man of his financial status."
Mr. Spicer:
"When the president refers to (air quote) fixing (air quote), he doesn't mean repairing something broken, but "fixing" the current status quo so he can permanently benefit from the benefits he now recieves under the current tax laws, which are quite reasonable for a man of his financial status."
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Trump stated after the inauguration, "I'm not going to release my tax information. I won. I'm President."
Arrogant jack-ass!
Arrogant jack-ass!
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Seriously? The Democrats are thinking of re-writing the tax code with such concern for one man and his family?
That could be the stupidest thing I've heard of coming out of Congress, and I've been working in the DoD for over 25 years. We have been waiting for decades for tax reform. Get it done! Trumpy is not going to show his returns as he said he would and you can't make him.
That could be the stupidest thing I've heard of coming out of Congress, and I've been working in the DoD for over 25 years. We have been waiting for decades for tax reform. Get it done! Trumpy is not going to show his returns as he said he would and you can't make him.
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It's hardly stupid if its the President of the United States....the man hasn't exactly shown he has the interests of the country as a whole in mind.
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If "working in the DoD, "citizen" is a government employee, so a tax code change is a very small effect.
Trump is hardly "one man and his family." He is a corrupt liar, and an arrogant jerk, voted into office by nihilists and bigots, and he can darn well show us his taxes just like he mocked others for not showing theirs. He says he has nothing to hide - prove it.
With Trump in charge, the US is moving full on third-world, or perhaps de facto-oligarchy would be a better phrase. No more kidding around, no euphemisms, the really rich live by a different sent of rules. Those rules include evading taxes, blatantly.
It brings to mind Leona Helmsley: "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes." Only Leona was despised, but Trump - backed by the GOP- hold onto support from the deceived.
It brings to mind Leona Helmsley: "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes." Only Leona was despised, but Trump - backed by the GOP- hold onto support from the deceived.
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Where are the liberal democrats when we wanted to see Obama's school records or Warren's school applications to Penn State and Harvard. You know Obama applied as a foreign student and Warren applied as a Native American. Both of them lying through their teeth. I'll make a trade Trumps tax returns for Barry's school records and Warren's applications. Deal?
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@ Jim
False equivalency isn't going to cut it.
President Obama released his tax records.
As soon as you see Trumps" school records," be sure and get back to us..............
False equivalency isn't going to cut it.
President Obama released his tax records.
As soon as you see Trumps" school records," be sure and get back to us..............
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What a fool. And where is Benghazi Gowdy now that we have suspected collusion between Russia and Comrade Trump?
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If you "know" that Obama applied as a "foreign student," why do you need to see his school records? If you "know" Warren applied as a Native American, why do you need to see her applications?
You don't. Just some right wing "performance artist" like Alex Jones has convinced you Obama is a foreigner, never mind even Trump gave up on that, and that Warren is "Pocahontas".
Presidential candidates have always released their tax returns. Obama did it. So did HRC and Mitt Romney. Trump promised to do so and broke it. Amazing how much less smoke there would be if Trump had been forthcoming about his financial entanglements with Russia.
You don't. Just some right wing "performance artist" like Alex Jones has convinced you Obama is a foreigner, never mind even Trump gave up on that, and that Warren is "Pocahontas".
Presidential candidates have always released their tax returns. Obama did it. So did HRC and Mitt Romney. Trump promised to do so and broke it. Amazing how much less smoke there would be if Trump had been forthcoming about his financial entanglements with Russia.
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Not just his taxes.
I want the draft dodging hypocrite to also release his Long Form Birth Certificate (I'm still not entirely convinced the coward wasn't born in Russia and then secreted in by Kosaks as an orange infant) and his college transcripts because I am pretty sure president draft dodger is illiterate.
I want the draft dodging hypocrite to also release his Long Form Birth Certificate (I'm still not entirely convinced the coward wasn't born in Russia and then secreted in by Kosaks as an orange infant) and his college transcripts because I am pretty sure president draft dodger is illiterate.
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To add to Bob.
And throw in his last IQ test number as well.
And throw in his last IQ test number as well.
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About that Emolument's Clause...Show us the Rubles.
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If the Congressional Democrats want to ally themselves with the relatively small number of Trump-haters that were out waving signs over the weekend, that's their tactical choice, but it's one that I would take straight to the next election, and try to pin them to the charge that they are nothing anymore but the party of a disaffected angry minority, and nobody else.
Hard to report taxes when you get paid in rubles.
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Trump and his cohorts WILL rewrite the tax codes with or without the Democrat Party participation. And Trump will NOT release his returns altogether.
So why this article?
So why this article?
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They're gonna fix the tax code? Really? Just like they did with healthcare reform?
His returns would show four things, at minimum.
First is what a horrible businessman he is. As has been said many times, he would be WAY richer if that guy named trump was not managing his daddy's fortune.
Second would be his myriad violations of US law. The Emolument clause case would be ironclad.
Third is it would show the level of his debt to Russia, and probably point directly to his criminal conspiracy to steal the election.
Fourth, they would show the degree to which he still has dealings with persons in organized crime.
No sane person publishes the evidence of their crimes. He will only turn them over under a subpoena and then only after he has exhausted legal challenges
First is what a horrible businessman he is. As has been said many times, he would be WAY richer if that guy named trump was not managing his daddy's fortune.
Second would be his myriad violations of US law. The Emolument clause case would be ironclad.
Third is it would show the level of his debt to Russia, and probably point directly to his criminal conspiracy to steal the election.
Fourth, they would show the degree to which he still has dealings with persons in organized crime.
No sane person publishes the evidence of their crimes. He will only turn them over under a subpoena and then only after he has exhausted legal challenges
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Agreed, entirely, to all of these points. This will (as the election did) become exhausting to the American people as we scream ourselves hoarse over what we know is certain Russian collusion and poor business acumen over the years - to no avail.
Once again, thank you trump supporters for giving us this monster.
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D's get some credit for having selected an unelectable candidate.
Deplorables and foolish Ds combined to create the ugly administration.
Deplorables and foolish Ds combined to create the ugly administration.
Its not the crime that gets you. Its the cover-up. Even when there was no crime committed.
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When Trump said he understood the tax laws "better than anyone who has ever run for president," what he really meant was that he know how to game the system better than anyone who has ever run for president. He was going to release his returns to prove that, but then someone wiser counseled him that maybe that wouldn't be such a great idea. And we know he only has great ideas.
First, not all procrastinators, people who owe don't file until the last day.
Trump lucked out on this one. Given more time, organizers could have set up a trust for Americans' tax returns, and people could refuse to file with IRS until they know what the Trumps are hiding.
That said, if Trump continues this game, Americans can find a legal way to set up a trust and send all wage withholding, including Medicare and Social Security to the trust. When they feel confident their tax dollars are safe, the money can be released to the Treasury Department.
Trump lucked out on this one. Given more time, organizers could have set up a trust for Americans' tax returns, and people could refuse to file with IRS until they know what the Trumps are hiding.
That said, if Trump continues this game, Americans can find a legal way to set up a trust and send all wage withholding, including Medicare and Social Security to the trust. When they feel confident their tax dollars are safe, the money can be released to the Treasury Department.
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The GOP ran and won with a guy who has a tax problem which will thwart their efforts at tax "reform"...
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if there was an issue in trump's taxes don't you think that IRS can handle it?
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Considering the IRS can't divulge it publically, no. The IRS can't handle it.
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He may be legally paying all the takes he owes while at the same time using loopholes in the tax code. It would be beneficial to SEE how the tax code benefits the man who wants to change the tax code. Legality isn't the issue.
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The issue isn't whether he broke any laws, the issue is whether he has any financial entanglements that will affect his decisions and actions. Decisions that may involve putting he and his family's interests before the nation's. Given this man's propensity for serial lying and obfuscations I don't think having some concrete record of his financial dealings is all that much to ask. Particularly when he has the power to put someone's loved one in harms way.
At last check Ron Paul still had his "hold" in-place blocking the Senate from ratifying several tax treaties that have already been agreed to. Switzerland included. Remember the 53,000 secret accounts held by Americans just at UBS AG bank? There were thousands more secret accounts held by Americans in other Swiss banks as well. Those tax treaties cleared the way for the Swiss banks to make the names of those account holders available to the US Department of Justice.
Forbes estimated $21 trillion in such hidden wealth in 2012.
Highly doubtful it is your average Joe's who are hiding that type of money in secret foreign accounts. Maybe that is the reason Ron Paul and the rest of the Washington Establishment isn't interested in finding out.
Forbes estimated $21 trillion in such hidden wealth in 2012.
Highly doubtful it is your average Joe's who are hiding that type of money in secret foreign accounts. Maybe that is the reason Ron Paul and the rest of the Washington Establishment isn't interested in finding out.
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Why would Donnie cut the budget for the IRS when they should have more people investigating and bring in more tax dollars from tax dodgers?
Besides, they must need more people to finish lying donnie's audit. Ha Ha--how stupid does he think we are. Cut taxes for the rich, cut IRS budget so fewer rich get audited (like him) and the Deficit keeps ballooning on. Glory Glory 1% Glory Glory 1% Glory 1% the Orange one lies some more.
Besides, they must need more people to finish lying donnie's audit. Ha Ha--how stupid does he think we are. Cut taxes for the rich, cut IRS budget so fewer rich get audited (like him) and the Deficit keeps ballooning on. Glory Glory 1% Glory Glory 1% Glory 1% the Orange one lies some more.
Tax reform? How is any person in this country going to know if any reform will benefit this president substantially economically? He is full of deception and subterfuge people. Why do you trust him to look out for your interests?
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Let's see those tax returns!
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I'm so tired of hearing about paid protesters. It is another false narrative (like fake news) that allows politicians to pretend everyone agrees with them. They all know that special interests are frequently their only interests but it's easier to sleep at night if you lie to yourself.
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I watched a Ron Howard film the other night on DVD named "In the Heart of the Sea." Not a bad film, but it bombed at the box office. As the credits rolled, I saw Steven Mnuchin got a producer credit. As Treasury Secretary, does Mnuchin get a producer credit when Trump's tax-reform bill bombs?
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Trump already offered to release his tax returns.
As soon as Hillary releases the 30,000 emails under subpoena she deleted.
As soon as Hillary releases the 30,000 emails under subpoena she deleted.
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George - see how far you get if you ask Trump to disclose first - he will not disclose unless dragged kicking and screaming into Court...kinda like the guy being dragged off of the United flight. Even then he will figure out a way leave out the "good parts..." Sad.
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Hillary is not the president and this is a false equivalency. There are specific reasons for making the tax returns public. The president is going to be reforming taxes and we want to see if the new reforms will benefit him personally. We also want to see if he is in violation of the of laws against taking monies from foreign governments.
I think what Trump needs to do shouldn't depend on someone (which i don't care about) doing something I don't care about.
We're on to the con man.
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There is good reason to fear that Trump would game the tax system for his personal benefit. During the campaign, he stated that 'if its legal, I would be a fool not to take advantage of it.' Moreover, personal gain is evident since becoming President -- who else has added so many family members to the administration? He is a scruples "Me, Me" person.
Guess what? Donald Trump was elected with full knowledge that he wasn't going to release his tax returns. Let's get over it and move on. The Democrats have adopted the posture of the Republicans with Obama. They are going to obstruct the Republicans and Mr. Trump on every issue including issues with which they agree such as: infrastructure spending, paid family leave, and even tax reforms which might help the rest of us. While this tit for tat may be satisfying, the rest of us lose.
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We lost for 6 years under Republican rule and now you want the Democrats to blink. Now the Republicans are getting a little of their own medicine and are discovering they don't like the taste. Good for them.
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Nope, nope, nope, nope. Obama has nothing to do with it. Trump is a craven coward, liar and I believe he is probably in treasonous collusion with the Russians. Richard Nixon was right when he said "The American people have a right to know if their President is a crook"
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Untrue. Trump got elected saying he would release them after the audit. Now he's saying never. Why aren't you offended by this lie?
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Praise to all that protested Trump's total lack of transparency over the weekend. A new TEA party: Trumped Enough Already.
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The GOP and WH are incapable of passing legislation but only capable of defunding existing legislation. The party of NO forgot how to govern and Trump never knew how to govern. Considering the GOP's disdain for government in principle, we may all be better off by their ineptitude till they can be replaced.
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I am as insistent as anyone that the American public has a right to know- and that our Congress should be working to make these disclosures a requirement of running for office. This President, with his entanglement of investments and debt with foreign countries and foreign banks, makes the case even more urgent. I am sure we will learn things that outrage us- we've already had experts suggest that, based on past returns and what we do know, he 'flirts with the edge' of legality in his real estate dealings. We may find out he's not as rich as he says. We may find out that his charitable donations are minimal. But none of that will phase his supporters. I've spoken to a few of them, and they have fallen for the oldest con in the book: "If he's rich, he must be smart." And they believe that one day soon he's going to share the secret of his wealth and change the tax code so that they, too, can become rich. Beyond that, they don't care if he's committed grand larceny along the way.
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It's very simple really. If there was never anything to hide the taxes would have been released a long time ago. Clearly, there is something to hide. Something "yuge". Yuge write offs of business expenses against rental income resulting in a realtive pittance being paid in federal income tax, tiny amounts donated to charities, and foreign investments (i.e Russia, ).
The "taxes are under audit" and "I'll release them when the audit is over" was a lie.
The "taxes are under audit" and "I'll release them when the audit is over" was a lie.
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Petty to avoid doing something that could potentially benefit American workers and businesses because Trump hasnt released this tax returns.
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They will be cheered by the angry left, which has somehow gotten hold of the car keys and is driving the car right into that ditch that Obama liked to talk about.
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That's rich coming from a Republican.
As a candidate, Mr. Trump declared that he understood America’s complex tax laws “better than anyone who has ever run for president” and stated "Only I can fix it."
Some voters thought "Sure, why not. What do we have to lose? He doesn't sound like a politician. He's on TV and it takes a thief to catch a thief anyway."
Now place your bets.
Would Trump rather resign and not release his taxes than reform the tax code?
Easy bet. He'll rather resign because he is callous ignorant narcissist.
Some voters thought "Sure, why not. What do we have to lose? He doesn't sound like a politician. He's on TV and it takes a thief to catch a thief anyway."
Now place your bets.
Would Trump rather resign and not release his taxes than reform the tax code?
Easy bet. He'll rather resign because he is callous ignorant narcissist.
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I believe that, as a government official, Mr. Trump should release his taxes from this point forward. However, unlike all the previous candidates who released their tax returns for previous years, Mr. Trump was a private citizen before taking office. He is, therefore, in my opinion, entitled to the same privacy as I am with regards to tax returns.
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The main thing that has separated our country from dictatorships and third-world status is an educated electorate. We are in great danger of losing this advantage. If we let situations like Trump not releasing his tax returns slide, then they know just how far they can go, and then what's next on their agenda?
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Let's all mail our tax returns to Trump.
In anticipation of future elections, progressives in California are working toward moving our primary from June to a date more closely following New Hampshire’s.
Additionally, in order to appear on the California primary ballot prospective candidates will be required to release tax returns for the previous five years.
Now, will a sufficient number of other states find ways in which to forestall a repeat of 2016 debacle?
I sincerely hope so.
Additionally, in order to appear on the California primary ballot prospective candidates will be required to release tax returns for the previous five years.
Now, will a sufficient number of other states find ways in which to forestall a repeat of 2016 debacle?
I sincerely hope so.
The only reason Trump can withhold his tax information, and the only reason Spicer can say that the "people" don't need to see his tax records, is because Trump is white, male and privileged. Plain and simple. Imagine if it had been Obama! He even needed to show his BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!
Why are any of us even still discussing this? He is not going to release his taxes. He never was going to. He lies frequently and with vigor and his supporters don't much care.
We, as a nation, will either gut this out or our country will fail while Trump, Inc fills its coffers. But tax returns? We won't see them.
We, as a nation, will either gut this out or our country will fail while Trump, Inc fills its coffers. But tax returns? We won't see them.
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Resist......It's working............I was there and it was a beautiful thing to behold......Democracy in action........We need to do everything we possibly can to hold onto the basic precepts of Democracy and the moral compass
of the United States of America......
of the United States of America......
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Tax Reform looks a muddled as everything else does under the current Congress and the Trump Administration. Got it, the usual deflection and smoke and mirrors.
Nothing here about what the basic objectives of tax reform are.
As for Democratic push back — I see little that is of substance or credible in terms of shaping whatever is forthcoming.
Simplifying the voluminous, horribly entangled, and legalistically dense federal law would be a boon, but very far from enough.
Once again it is the political wangling and infighting that takes center stage and next to nothing about the nuts and bolts. At the head of the list is the issue of Trump’s tax returns. This gets cast as though the only concern are Trump’s possible personal advantages as long as his financials remain in the closet. Fact is that whatever might benefit the President or his family will also largely favor the rest of the fabulously wealthy 1% to the tune of trillions till next run of 35 year hiatus between meaningful change.
What of the staggering transfer of wealth that has occurred over the last 3 decades, no mention of redressing this in the current attempt at so called reform.
Nothing here about what the basic objectives of tax reform are.
As for Democratic push back — I see little that is of substance or credible in terms of shaping whatever is forthcoming.
Simplifying the voluminous, horribly entangled, and legalistically dense federal law would be a boon, but very far from enough.
Once again it is the political wangling and infighting that takes center stage and next to nothing about the nuts and bolts. At the head of the list is the issue of Trump’s tax returns. This gets cast as though the only concern are Trump’s possible personal advantages as long as his financials remain in the closet. Fact is that whatever might benefit the President or his family will also largely favor the rest of the fabulously wealthy 1% to the tune of trillions till next run of 35 year hiatus between meaningful change.
What of the staggering transfer of wealth that has occurred over the last 3 decades, no mention of redressing this in the current attempt at so called reform.
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Agree. Donnie's middle name should be obfuscate as in conman. Too bad his followers are too unpatriotic to fight for this country.
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REVELATION OF TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS.
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Quick DJT, release your 2016 tax returns before they are audited!
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the President is doing us all a favor. it is much better that he keep his grotty tax returns a secret, further agitates both the left and the right, casts increasing doubt on his own motives and honesty, prompts investigations, and totally alienates the poor suckers he duped into voting for him.
keep those incriminating returns a secret, Donald! the lousy tricks you've pulled will all come out in the wash anyway. the more you stonewall, the worse you look. keep up the good work and show us all what kind of guy you are, Don Trumpleone...
and we will be rid of you all the sooner before you totally destroy our country.
keep those incriminating returns a secret, Donald! the lousy tricks you've pulled will all come out in the wash anyway. the more you stonewall, the worse you look. keep up the good work and show us all what kind of guy you are, Don Trumpleone...
and we will be rid of you all the sooner before you totally destroy our country.
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As a long time New Yorker I have watched and read for many years the media report about Trump and his crooked ways of doing business. So it's really no surprise that he won't release his taxes.
If anything "good" comes out about his failure to release his taxes is that now the entire country and world knows what a embarrassment he is to America.
If anything "good" comes out about his failure to release his taxes is that now the entire country and world knows what a embarrassment he is to America.
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For a man who's already despised by most of America, is there really anything new to be seen in tax return that could make him anymore hated at this point? Isn't there anything constructive for Democrats to do with themselves? Perhaps another investigation, like the cost of Melania's Easter dress.
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Don the Con's con job on America will begin to end once he discloses his tax returns. That is the reason why he claims the auditing of them does not allow for disclosure. Once it is noted that he relied heavily on foreign loans because US banks would not touch his business, then all the perceived conflicts of interest will become reality.
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So, let me get this straight. If Trump doesn't release his taxes, but a tax reform bill that most agree is very positive for our country, Sen Shumer and the Dems will not vote for it? Sounds like gun reform voting by the GOP. Ignore the good for partisan sake. How sad.
This isn't about tax reform, although it's a good argument that discussions about it should be premised on how it might affect Trump. No, the really vital aspect of this demand, and reason we cannot -- must not -- let go of it is that his returns with the reporting of investments made and with whom will be finally disclosed. His expected deep ties into Russian oligarchy will become patently clear and he will be stripped naked.
Good grief, move on. He's not going to release them, no law says he must.
Wonder how many of these anarchists pay taxes. Don't they have jobs? All they seem to be doing since LAST November is marching, screaming and causing riots..........get over it...............HE WON
Wonder how many of these anarchists pay taxes. Don't they have jobs? All they seem to be doing since LAST November is marching, screaming and causing riots..........get over it...............HE WON
Clearly Trump has something to hide.
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Not something bad enough to keep from the IRS, so how bad can it be? What are you going to do? Vote for the someone else? A bit late for that.
We almost had a president who destroyed records while under FBI investigation, and people are clamoring for legally filed tax returns? "Taxers" are most definitely the new "Birthers".
We almost had a president who destroyed records while under FBI investigation, and people are clamoring for legally filed tax returns? "Taxers" are most definitely the new "Birthers".
Hillary and Bill were broke when they left the White House. That is why Hillary should have won. Wealthy people have no business in politics.
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Both of them wrote best seller books and made millions that way, the old fashioned success story. Yes they gave paid lectures which every ex-president does, except I believe Jimmy Carter. So where's the beef. Greedy Donald won't quit until he sucks every dollar from being president. Did you hear Ivanka got lucrative contracts in China after the China Premier's visit. How much do we have to endure?
Ask the DNC. They tried to force Hillary down the throats of the American people and failed. Trump won from the bottom up while Hillary believed the Democrat elite would hand her the Oval Office.
Yes, the tax code should be simplified... but not with Trump and the Republicans at the wheel! Guess we'll just have to wait four more years.
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Trump is the swamp. The ethical/financial conflicts are so numerous that the tax return is a sideshow. Will the returns show he stands to make a fortune from "tax overhaul"? Sure, but so will most of his big backers, billionaire cabinet members and many in Congress. When the foxes are guarding the hen house, what do you expect. Keep up the protests- shine a light on them all.
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Trump is a con man. If he releases his tax returns they will likely show that he is not even remotely close to being as rich as he claims to be and in debt to foreign entities who pull his puppet strings. His ignorant supporters would be unfazed by these revelations. Trump and his propagandists would simply brush them aside as fake news and the beat would go on.
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Situation is such President Trump may have gone bankrupt if the United States Government hadn't become his biggest single payer customer. Taxes tell.
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Time has moved along since we first wanted to see Trump's taxes and he refused. Now I not only want to see Trump's 2015 taxes, I also want to see his 2016 taxes. And, actually, I would like to see them for the past 10 years. He has so much to hide and my imagination is working overtime.
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We already know what his tax returns say, that he's no way as wealthy as he pretends to be and that he derives his income from exploiting both his fellow Americans and foreign workers, demonstrating clearly how he says one thing on TV and does another when off camera.
A better headline would be "Democrats Threaten Tax Reform Over Tax Returns." It is their right to do so - but let's be accurate.
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REALITY: the congress writes the tax laws not trump i.e. stop just printing dem talking points as fact
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The problem with Trump is that he thinks he is king!
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Trump can destroy himself by releasing his tax returns, or he can destroy himself by not releasing his tax returns. I like those choices.
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Who will tax reform serve: Trump's business partners and billionaires or the majority of Americans? We can't know if we don't see his taxes.
Releasing his taxes is not about changing the minds of his supporters. It's about governing in the interests of the United States instead of in the personal interests of Donald Trump and his family.
Releasing his taxes is not about changing the minds of his supporters. It's about governing in the interests of the United States instead of in the personal interests of Donald Trump and his family.
Once a liar and a cheat, always a liar and cheat.
What do Trump supporters expect?
What do Trump supporters expect?
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The tax code is rigged for the rich. The code has been fixed so those investing in real estate to generate income pay virtually nothing in federal taxes. States are exceptions. There are so many income offsets, most notably depreciation, that the tax liability on income shrinks to zero. These are private equity investments. Those without sufficient income or assets may not participate. There is a capital gain payment upon selling a property. But only if one sells. However, if I have income of even 10% (not great but good) I'm loath to sell the property and search for a better income stream. And then there's the tax free exchange should a replacement property be found and even capital gains disappear. The middle and working class have been duped for decades. The other side of this phony system is the Houdini like income offsets for large corporations.
Trump's taxes returns are of interest not to illustrate how little he pays. Trust that he pays less than the average reader of these comments. His returns MUST be made public to reveal who he OWES. The tax code is fixed; written by the rich for the rich. With Trump in the White House, the government may be in the process of being fixed for foreign interests. Trump's 30% base doesn't want to find out who's in bed with their man. Whoever it is, it's unlikely to be the First Lady.
Trump's taxes returns are of interest not to illustrate how little he pays. Trust that he pays less than the average reader of these comments. His returns MUST be made public to reveal who he OWES. The tax code is fixed; written by the rich for the rich. With Trump in the White House, the government may be in the process of being fixed for foreign interests. Trump's 30% base doesn't want to find out who's in bed with their man. Whoever it is, it's unlikely to be the First Lady.
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"With Republicans sharply divided on a path forward and the administration unable to come up with a plan of its own, the Democratic resistance is only the newest impediment."
Another impediment might be that Congress is always on vacation. Like they are now! They were only in-session 110 days for all of 2016, and only 133 days in 2015.
243 days at the office in two years. Contrast and compare that to working Americans. Fifty-two work weeks a year minus two weeks vacation is 250 days, minus another 10 days of paid holidays is 240 work days a year. It takes Congress two years to put in the same number.
Maybe Congress could get more of the people's work done if they came to the office in more a full time manner.
Another impediment might be that Congress is always on vacation. Like they are now! They were only in-session 110 days for all of 2016, and only 133 days in 2015.
243 days at the office in two years. Contrast and compare that to working Americans. Fifty-two work weeks a year minus two weeks vacation is 250 days, minus another 10 days of paid holidays is 240 work days a year. It takes Congress two years to put in the same number.
Maybe Congress could get more of the people's work done if they came to the office in more a full time manner.
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He does not want his tax returns made public because they will show he is deeply in debt to the Russkies, the Chinese, and maybe others.
He is so deep in debt that if the lenders called his loans he would be bankrupt.
He did that before, multiple times. He must be doing the same thing now.
Jared Kushner's 666 Fifth Avenue is also deeply in debt, and does not generate enough cash flow to pay the amounts due on the loans. Runs in the family.
He is so deep in debt that if the lenders called his loans he would be bankrupt.
He did that before, multiple times. He must be doing the same thing now.
Jared Kushner's 666 Fifth Avenue is also deeply in debt, and does not generate enough cash flow to pay the amounts due on the loans. Runs in the family.
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A campaign promise is not the major issue.
The worry is about the secrecy this administration holds over what was once an open Democracy.
Who will restrain this ruler from ruining the rights of the people and the rules of law. Who is going to control his power to enhance his and his family's wealth through tax manipulations he has the power to enforce in order to support him and his family's wealth and well being.
The Republican House and Senate will not protect us from his power and authority over the destruction of what was once considered the norms of governing. Neither will the enablers in the Supreme Court he appointed to oversee his Empire. This is a dangerous time.
The worry is about the secrecy this administration holds over what was once an open Democracy.
Who will restrain this ruler from ruining the rights of the people and the rules of law. Who is going to control his power to enhance his and his family's wealth through tax manipulations he has the power to enforce in order to support him and his family's wealth and well being.
The Republican House and Senate will not protect us from his power and authority over the destruction of what was once considered the norms of governing. Neither will the enablers in the Supreme Court he appointed to oversee his Empire. This is a dangerous time.
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Promises? What are those? He's The Con Don - orange talking head for the International Mafia who are trying to take over the world and make themselves kings and the rest of us 5th century, illiterate peons.
Thanks, again, to deplorable voters who gave control of OUR United States of America government and democracy to The Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron/ Radical Religion Good Old Boys' Party/ Corporate Cabal.
You are going to hate what you created. Those of us who value true democracy and social/economic justice for all will fight with every tool at our disposal to stop them. Unfortunately, you will benefit as well.
This Will Not Stand In America. Not now. Not ever again.
Thanks, again, to deplorable voters who gave control of OUR United States of America government and democracy to The Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron/ Radical Religion Good Old Boys' Party/ Corporate Cabal.
You are going to hate what you created. Those of us who value true democracy and social/economic justice for all will fight with every tool at our disposal to stop them. Unfortunately, you will benefit as well.
This Will Not Stand In America. Not now. Not ever again.
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So when I was interviewing for my last job, I had a little white lie on my resume (saying that I had a 14 year tenure as CEO of a Fortune 20 company...Oops). The employer was very impressed and gave me the job. After I came on board and flubbed a few small, little corporate mergers and reorganizations, got caught in a tiny sexual harassment suit, and accidentally leaked corporate plans to Breitbart News, the Board came and asked for some references from my previous employers.
"Sorry boys, but the fact that you gave me the job makes past verification of employment irrelevant."
"Sorry boys, but the fact that you gave me the job makes past verification of employment irrelevant."
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Two possibilities:
1. The president has no idea of what he's doing;
2. The con man underestimated Congress, his "marks."
1. The president has no idea of what he's doing;
2. The con man underestimated Congress, his "marks."
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It doesn't matter people. It's a private matter.
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No, BearBoy, it's actually a very public matter. This "president" has financial holdings around the world. It is necessary that he release his taxes so that the public can determine that he is: a). Not changing the tax codes to benefit himself and his cronies; b). Not receiving financial gain from other countries in return for advantageous decisions on foreign policy; and c). Not financially involved, (either before or after the election), with other nations such as Russia. It's pretty clear if you follow the money that Russian/German banks loaned Trump a lot of money, and that the Iranian National Guard was laundering money through the Trump hotel in Kazakhstan. To name just two instances that are VERY disturbing. It's clear to me that he has already violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution and is in danger of impeachment proceedings. Assuming that we still have a functioning democracy, which is questionable at this point.
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He is a public person elected by the public who have a right to know about the public official.
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It is a private matter skewed by the fact that he is a very public figure, who we hired and who chose a job, which has some long-standing traditions and practices. This includes always saluting his military staff (done), informing the public (somewhat done), sticking to his principles (yes, when he can find them), and informing the people who elected him about his financial situation with the IRS (not really unless he is getting divorced).
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Honor your word, respect your voters : Release your taxes.
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He's worried about the 'Go To Jail. Go Directly to Jail' part of the game he's playing with the public.
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trump will never release his taxes - he's hiding something in there he wants no one to see. Tax cuts for the 1% may happen tho, as there will be intense pressure from these people who have the power and money to force the issue.
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EVERYONE agrees that tax reform will improve the lives of all Americans and yet the Democrats are willing to sacrifice this to make a purely political "gotcha" point. Well, I guess that tells one all one needs to know about the priorities of the left! Sad, actually.
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Really? Everyone? Doesn't it depend on what the tax reform is? Because if it's to benefit the 1%...Trump and his family, for instance...the money to run the government has to come from somewhere. And that somewhere will be you and me. That won't benefit most people. That will only benefit the rich. I want to know what Trump is hiding, and I want to know it well before any sort of tax reform happens that will simply increase Trump's bottom line at my expense.
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I and many others do not agree that tax reform will improve lives.
No, not everyone agrees that the Republicans idea of tax "reform", which is huge tax cuts for the 1% and corporations, will be good for everyone. And until we see how his tax proposals will directly benefit his business, we have every right to see Trumps returns before we agree to consider any of his tax proposals.
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I understand that it is possible through legislative action at state level for some states to require release of state tax filings on those running for president in the state - which would give substantially similar information as the federal return.
Recognizing that many state governments are controlled by Republicans and so it may not be a cake-walk, there may still be an opportunity to use this "indirect" route to information that is of interest to the public.
In doing so, it would heighten the awareness of the voters at the state level and could even exert public pressure on state legislature to enable this.
Recognizing that many state governments are controlled by Republicans and so it may not be a cake-walk, there may still be an opportunity to use this "indirect" route to information that is of interest to the public.
In doing so, it would heighten the awareness of the voters at the state level and could even exert public pressure on state legislature to enable this.
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"Billionaire's Tax Returns are too privileged for our public eyes. Just co-operate with our concept of reform."
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America has needed a complete tax overhaul for at least two decades.
But Trump is not the man to do it.
If the fight over his tax returns delays major tax reform for another decade that is a high, but acceptable price to pay.
Someday we will have a sensible bipartisan immigration overhaul and a tax overhaul.
Someday......but not right now.
But Trump is not the man to do it.
If the fight over his tax returns delays major tax reform for another decade that is a high, but acceptable price to pay.
Someday we will have a sensible bipartisan immigration overhaul and a tax overhaul.
Someday......but not right now.
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Nice of you to be so generous with my money. because I pay my taxes.
The more Trump is reluctant to release his tax returns, the more he has to hide. Or he makes the issue a distraction from the investigations into his team's dealing with Russia.
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Don't trust him to release his tax returns. Only the returns released by the IRS would be valid.
Again, he cannot be trusted.
He is a liar, a hypocrite, and a cheat. Do not forget this.
Again, he cannot be trusted.
He is a liar, a hypocrite, and a cheat. Do not forget this.
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When a tax return is full of trickery, it indicates that that individual and his companies are far from truthful. Putin purportedly has 150 billion dollars while his public lives three families to one apartment. I think we can all guess what Trump's tax returns contain. Loophole exploits, possible bankruptcies, etc. While he lives and profits on the government dole, he owes us a clear release of these papers. It is not a question of whether folks voted for him or not. It is a question of how truly obtuse and possibly corrupt our president is.
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Lying Donnie,
Make America Great Again, release your taxes and pay taxes to support the military. You certainly don't expect the poor and the middle class to support your increase in military spending all by themselves. Ha Ha
Make America Great Again, release your taxes and pay taxes to support the military. You certainly don't expect the poor and the middle class to support your increase in military spending all by themselves. Ha Ha
The fact that republicans don't care that the Trump Clan is running the country while running their businesses speaks volumes about the political divide. There was only one Trump on the ballot last November. I would expect that all of the Trumps who want to get in on the power grab of running the white house, should be happy to release their taxes.
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The real reason the president doesn't want to release his tax returns, I believe, is that he doesn't want to disclose the numerous limited partnerships, joint ventures, and limited liability companies he has an interest in that (indirectly, of course) also have Russian investors.
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He can't release his returns. Why? There's something in them that's worse than the turmoil caused by not releasing them. To him this is something "smart" but we know it's really a silent confession.
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Time for all good Republicans to do the correct thing.
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Now that is an oxymoron for sure !!
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So that is the red line in the sand in Washington for Congress? If Trump does not show his tax statement, then no one has a chance at tax reform?
Idiots.
Idiots.
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Funny. Idiots is just the term the left would use for people who'd allow tax reform to be run by a billionaire who hides his taxes.
The reason revealing Trump's taxes is so critical is to analyze the returns for the ways in which his ilk game the tax system for their benefit and our peril. What better example and road map from the real world to use as the basis to fix the tax system from the abuses by the Trumps, Kochs, and others?
Trump has to recuse himself from any tax related issues that could affect him. That includes signing or vetoing a bill he does not like.
Frankly, I do not give a dam* what the Koch brothers want - it is not their country! Retailers and oil companies, likewise, are not voters - though they can pour their shareholder's money into the political process to distort the so call free market they claim to favor when they are only looking to protect and expand their turf.
It is not a "plot" by the Trumps and the wealthy to get even richer - it is a conspiracy with our own government that they have finally taken over to transfer any and all remaining burdens onto the rest of us. It is GOP Voodoo math - tax cuts to simultaneously balance the budget and pay off the debt.
The sore-winner-in-chief accuses protesters of being paid. No! It is the protesters who pay - pay the taxes Trump obviously doesn't. Indeed, adding insult to injury they are now paying for his frequent golfing vacations at Mar-de-Locos.
Trump has to recuse himself from any tax related issues that could affect him. That includes signing or vetoing a bill he does not like.
Frankly, I do not give a dam* what the Koch brothers want - it is not their country! Retailers and oil companies, likewise, are not voters - though they can pour their shareholder's money into the political process to distort the so call free market they claim to favor when they are only looking to protect and expand their turf.
It is not a "plot" by the Trumps and the wealthy to get even richer - it is a conspiracy with our own government that they have finally taken over to transfer any and all remaining burdens onto the rest of us. It is GOP Voodoo math - tax cuts to simultaneously balance the budget and pay off the debt.
The sore-winner-in-chief accuses protesters of being paid. No! It is the protesters who pay - pay the taxes Trump obviously doesn't. Indeed, adding insult to injury they are now paying for his frequent golfing vacations at Mar-de-Locos.
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Let's be bipartisan and also look at Buffet's (and Berkshire's), Gates', Soros', Bloomberg's, Cuban's, Steyer's, Gore's, Paulson's, Bezos', Zuckerberg's, all the good folks out in the Hamptons, in Silicone Valley, in Jackson Hole, on Martha's Vineyard and anywhere where the 0.0001% flock.
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A BUM.
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Putin says no.
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The man who ran for president on the promise of draining the swamp and creating more transparency in government has only increased the swamp and made the government the least transparent in our modern history.
I fully expect Trump to use these words during his first State of the Union Address next January:
"that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. "
Expect him to take credit for writing these words.
I fully expect Trump to use these words during his first State of the Union Address next January:
"that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. "
Expect him to take credit for writing these words.
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This was an (obvious) angle that I hadn't thought of but tRump's people should have. Oh wait, he works alone.
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Democrats: What a bunch of stupid idiots....the American people don't care about Trump's taxes, they want more higher paying jobs, better health care , a better military and other counties to finally respect us.
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Tony,
American people are getting neither.....
American people are getting neither.....
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"other countries to finally respect us" ? Yeah, 59 cruise missiles into a sand box will certainly get us respect.
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The "American people" care about all those things and so far, Trump hasn't helped with them at all.
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The larger issue is conflict of interest. While I'm gratified at the incipient backbone the Congressional Dems are showing, (I note Schumer's comments, quoted here, came after the thousands of us that marched on Tax Day. Did he notice us?) However, I'm dismayed at the lack of Congressional attention to the already grossly evident selling of the Orange One's brand from the vantage of the Presidency. Conflicts of interest is written all over Trump. And while I do wonder if Trump's peculiar support of Russia (until he didn't) had a monetary self interest motive, do we really need Trump's tax returns to establish he can sell national interests for a buck (his).
And do we have to wait on Trump? A protestor at a Senator Cotton (Arkansas) town hall said Congress can directly subpoena the returns.
As for the fairness of Trump's tax payments, he's already boasted of not paying taxes. And it's not news that the ultra rich routinely lawyer their way out of paying taxes. Of course, in the case of Trump, he's gone several steps further; he's costing us more than most billionaires, drawing heavily on our hard earned tax payments, with his constant moving from one to another of his gross temples to greed and, most egregious, his show of military prowess, wasting not only millions of dollars but also lives, American and overseas as he bombs his way into the hearts of all hawks. And what will ge get us into with North Korea?
With Presidents like this, do we need enemies?
And do we have to wait on Trump? A protestor at a Senator Cotton (Arkansas) town hall said Congress can directly subpoena the returns.
As for the fairness of Trump's tax payments, he's already boasted of not paying taxes. And it's not news that the ultra rich routinely lawyer their way out of paying taxes. Of course, in the case of Trump, he's gone several steps further; he's costing us more than most billionaires, drawing heavily on our hard earned tax payments, with his constant moving from one to another of his gross temples to greed and, most egregious, his show of military prowess, wasting not only millions of dollars but also lives, American and overseas as he bombs his way into the hearts of all hawks. And what will ge get us into with North Korea?
With Presidents like this, do we need enemies?
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and, how would we tell the difference?
President Trump will say anything, do anything that in the moment he believes will benefit his constituency, which is now and has always been himself alone.
but don't take my word for it. ask his ex wives, the taxpayers and contractors he's stiffed, the people of Atlantic City... in fact anyone who is not asleep at the switch.
President Trump will say anything, do anything that in the moment he believes will benefit his constituency, which is now and has always been himself alone.
but don't take my word for it. ask his ex wives, the taxpayers and contractors he's stiffed, the people of Atlantic City... in fact anyone who is not asleep at the switch.
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Screw the rest of we little taxpayers, Senate Democrats, go ahead and you land your big trophy fish to hang on the wall while we go hungry without any fish at all.
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Mike Pence is all set to provide the magic fishes, so don't worry. you're in good hands with Almighty. if worse comes to worse, all the white Republicans will be raptured anyhow. the main question: will they be able to bring their golf clubs to heaven?
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Ivy what on earth do you mean? Majorities of Republicans, Democrats and Independents want the President to release his tax returns. No one is asking Trump to do anything other Presidents have done. It's the ethical, tradional and normative thing to do. Why should we expect any less from him. He may believe he's special, but he isn't. He is a temporary employee of the American people.
It's not as if we're asking for his first born. As much as he has bragged and boasted on himself, he should be happy to show us that he is exactly the person he has been bragging about. Why wouldn't he want to be in our face as he has been about everything else? Anyone, please give us a single logical reason for him not releasing his tax returns?
It's not as if we're asking for his first born. As much as he has bragged and boasted on himself, he should be happy to show us that he is exactly the person he has been bragging about. Why wouldn't he want to be in our face as he has been about everything else? Anyone, please give us a single logical reason for him not releasing his tax returns?
Good! This is important! Republicans should about as much as Democrats. Especially with a President who business dealings are so varied and so ongoing. Release the tax returns, Mr President! No paying for his weekly golf trips and chocolate cake desserts until he does!
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So if Trump is still President next year...what say we don't show the IRS our taxes until the "President" releases his?
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It should be disturbing to every citizen that the presidential candidate who was the most likely to have conflicts of interest was an elected official due to his businesses would be unwilling to disclose his financial ties. The citizens that voted for Trump but don't care that he has not released his tax returns are hypocrites of the highest order. Everybody regardless of political affiliation should be demanding his financial disclosure.
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Donald's embarrassing defeat on killing Obamacare (hooray!), racist executive orders defeated in court, the pressure for a legislative win is imperative for his reelection chances and Republicans maintaining their majority in the House in 2018 mid-term elections. If tax reform ( i.e. Lower Taxes for corporations and the wealthiest Americans) is high on Donald's list of priorities you would think he would want to remove an obstacle that is so easy to do- release his tax returns. His continuing refusal reinforces the public's mistrust that Donald has something to hide.
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So once again the "self called " man off his" word " does not perform. Surprise surprise!!
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Just like Alfred E. Newman, of "What, me worry?" (MAD Magazine) fame, Donald Trump provides an ew, "What, me reveal my innermost secrets?", Fame. Having been born here decades, and decades, ago, I have outlasted man President, some good, and some not.
But, I have never seen a President insist on grabbing so much of the spotlight. In most newspapers, the entire front page could easily be totally filled with the ethical misdeeds, and misadventures, of Donald Trump, and The Three Trumpkins!
When will this all end? I grew-up when the headlines were about various Americans, even some doing good deeds. And all of the crooks her in jail!
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
But, I have never seen a President insist on grabbing so much of the spotlight. In most newspapers, the entire front page could easily be totally filled with the ethical misdeeds, and misadventures, of Donald Trump, and The Three Trumpkins!
When will this all end? I grew-up when the headlines were about various Americans, even some doing good deeds. And all of the crooks her in jail!
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
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Agree, we need to hold "Elected Politicians" not accountable but responsible for the promises they make and break and the damage they do to US.
https://usdebtforum.com
https://usdebtforum.com
Does anyone really expect this republican billionaire president, who gloats how he doesn't pay taxes, to show his tax returns?
The "tax reform" that Ryan-McConnell will draft will be a tax cut for the rich paid for by the rest of us with a fictitious claim that it'll be paid for by the tooth fairy. Or maybe by Mexico?
What's all this talk about tax cuts and no mention of the national debt? I seem to recall a lot of bluster about the 20 trillion debt during the campaign.
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Not to mention the ramp up for war. Are we really going to try bullets, beans and butter again?
None of this matters as long as the Republicans control Congress. The Nixon era -- where Republicans had a spine and refused to sell their souls to Satan -- that is over. Trump is right: he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue with impunity.
So his violations of the Emoluments Clause, which in addition to possibly the Russian connection/treason is covered-up by keeping the tax returns secret, are wholly irrelevant unless and until the Democrats take back Congress and impeach him.
So his violations of the Emoluments Clause, which in addition to possibly the Russian connection/treason is covered-up by keeping the tax returns secret, are wholly irrelevant unless and until the Democrats take back Congress and impeach him.
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Just in case no one is paying attention, it is becoming clearer and clearer that Mr. Trump has no vision, no plan for how to govern, just a constant stream of executive orders.
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The dems are lying. They would not support anything trump does. What was the reason they did not support Goresuch, because trump wouldn't say how Goresuch as a justice would benefit trump?
He doesn't need to release his taxes. He was elected without doing it, so why should he now?
The dems will obstruct and block and lie about him anyway.
And yes, I realize trump needs to just shut up and stop doing stupid stuff. Best thing he's done so far is to banish Bannon.
He doesn't need to release his taxes. He was elected without doing it, so why should he now?
The dems will obstruct and block and lie about him anyway.
And yes, I realize trump needs to just shut up and stop doing stupid stuff. Best thing he's done so far is to banish Bannon.
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Trump was elected on the promise that if elected, he would release his tax returns.
On the one hand, it is true that nobody should trust Trump. On the other hand, he did say that if elected, he would release his tax returns. And now, polls show that 70 percent of all voters, and 65 percent of Republican voters want him to keep his promise by releasing his returns.
You accuse Democrats of lying about Trump, but we have video of Trump promising to release his tax returns if elected. That is to say, we have direct evidence that Trump lied to the American people.
On the one hand, it is true that nobody should trust Trump. On the other hand, he did say that if elected, he would release his tax returns. And now, polls show that 70 percent of all voters, and 65 percent of Republican voters want him to keep his promise by releasing his returns.
You accuse Democrats of lying about Trump, but we have video of Trump promising to release his tax returns if elected. That is to say, we have direct evidence that Trump lied to the American people.
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You asked the wrong question. Why shouldn't President Trump release his tax returns. He promised over, and over that he would release them once the audit was over. Did you believe him? Does his promises mean anything to you?
Why should we the American people give Trump a pass? Why should we lower our expectation? Democracy dies when the lights are out and those who govern have no transparency.
Why should we the American people give Trump a pass? Why should we lower our expectation? Democracy dies when the lights are out and those who govern have no transparency.
These protesters seriously look like episode 1 of The Biggest Loser show. Can they find something of substance to spend their time on, to change things for the better, instead of this constant complaining?
Who really cares and what does it matter how many of his tax returns are seen? Why are they not protesting that the tax code should be vastly simplified to remove all the now-legal deductions?
Who really cares and what does it matter how many of his tax returns are seen? Why are they not protesting that the tax code should be vastly simplified to remove all the now-legal deductions?
Dude. Just release your taxes. It is idiotically simple, if there was nothing to hide they would be public record already.
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Can you say Achilles heel?
Yes, Trump should release his taxes, and anyone that works in the government should not have conflicts of interest all over the world.
You don't need Trump's taxes to know that the tax reform bill is aimed at the super rich. Even their "healthcare reform" was really a tax give away to the rich.
They want to cut corporate taxes. 75% of all shares are owned by the 1%. Cuts in corporate taxes are for them. 95% of all businesses are not corporations. Corporate tax cuts only help the biggest competitors of most small business people.
They want to cut capital gains. Capital Gains was 61% of the 0.3% of tax payers with an Adjusted Gross Income over $1,000,000. Only 1 in seven tax payers have any capital gains in given year. Capital is the robots and artificial intelligence that are replacing workers whose pay is flat for three decades. Do we really need to incentivize capital gains over education, healthcare and infrastructure?
The other thing they want to do is cut out the top rates, lowering the income tax for the richest people.
And don't expect Schumer to stand in their way. Look at his friends and campaign contributors. He is long bought.
You don't need Trump's taxes to know that the tax reform bill is aimed at the super rich. Even their "healthcare reform" was really a tax give away to the rich.
They want to cut corporate taxes. 75% of all shares are owned by the 1%. Cuts in corporate taxes are for them. 95% of all businesses are not corporations. Corporate tax cuts only help the biggest competitors of most small business people.
They want to cut capital gains. Capital Gains was 61% of the 0.3% of tax payers with an Adjusted Gross Income over $1,000,000. Only 1 in seven tax payers have any capital gains in given year. Capital is the robots and artificial intelligence that are replacing workers whose pay is flat for three decades. Do we really need to incentivize capital gains over education, healthcare and infrastructure?
The other thing they want to do is cut out the top rates, lowering the income tax for the richest people.
And don't expect Schumer to stand in their way. Look at his friends and campaign contributors. He is long bought.
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When 45 "declared that he understood America’s complex tax laws 'better than anyone who has ever run for president' " he actually meant that he "knew a good tax lawyer." I doubt he could even find the place to sign the form without his tax people pointing out where to sign.
Democrats should put together a list of loopholes they want to eliminate. Their "proposal to get rid of a rule that lets companies write off the interest they pay on loans" is a good start. Eliminating welfare for big oil and big agriculture would be unlikely to benefit 45's family.
And any attempt to treat infrastructure as part of a "tax plan", rather than a spending plan, should be DOA.
Democrats should put together a list of loopholes they want to eliminate. Their "proposal to get rid of a rule that lets companies write off the interest they pay on loans" is a good start. Eliminating welfare for big oil and big agriculture would be unlikely to benefit 45's family.
And any attempt to treat infrastructure as part of a "tax plan", rather than a spending plan, should be DOA.
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You would have to be a fool not to know that Trump is hiding shady write-offs, sneaky business dealings and nonexistent charity contributions. Trump is a liar and a crook and is afraid that he will be impeached. Let's expose this fake now!
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First of all he brought this on himself; second, it's just more evidence that he has zero idea how to govern.
We know he has a myriad of business interests (which he should have divested by now but that's another story). So I'm going to let him alter the tax code with no idea how it affects him ? I don't think so.
Didn't he say he'd get rid of the carry forward rule during the campaign ? Do that alone to start. It would go a long way to showing he is serious.
We know he has a myriad of business interests (which he should have divested by now but that's another story). So I'm going to let him alter the tax code with no idea how it affects him ? I don't think so.
Didn't he say he'd get rid of the carry forward rule during the campaign ? Do that alone to start. It would go a long way to showing he is serious.
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I'd like to see Trump's returns, but only because I'm sure it would be a cause of great embarrassment. Other than that, I'm not sure exactly what it would accomplish.
Most likely he has done what all people of great wealth do; hired an expert to squeeze him through every one of the loopholes available. I seriously doubt there would be anything that would rise to the level of tax evasion, certainly nothing that would warrant impeachment. At best we would see a portrait of a man who has done just what we would expect of him, now that we've seen his ethics and morals on public display.
But I have to say, I find it amusing that members of congress are now so very concerned that without Trump's tax returns they might inadvertently pass a tax law that benefits the wealthy. I suppose they mean as opposed to the ones they've passing deliberately for years and years?
Most likely he has done what all people of great wealth do; hired an expert to squeeze him through every one of the loopholes available. I seriously doubt there would be anything that would rise to the level of tax evasion, certainly nothing that would warrant impeachment. At best we would see a portrait of a man who has done just what we would expect of him, now that we've seen his ethics and morals on public display.
But I have to say, I find it amusing that members of congress are now so very concerned that without Trump's tax returns they might inadvertently pass a tax law that benefits the wealthy. I suppose they mean as opposed to the ones they've passing deliberately for years and years?
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go down to the local beer bar or to the pta meeting, listen to the conversations. listen to the real concerns.
get invited to a gilded country club or a pricey afterwork boite frequented by brokers and quants.
taxes are an obsession of the rich, and the richer, the more obsessed; it's a combintion of greed and braggadocio.
middle class and poor people don't have enough money to worry much about taxes (keeping more), they are concerned with getting enough to get by when the deck is stacked against them.
fake issue!
get invited to a gilded country club or a pricey afterwork boite frequented by brokers and quants.
taxes are an obsession of the rich, and the richer, the more obsessed; it's a combintion of greed and braggadocio.
middle class and poor people don't have enough money to worry much about taxes (keeping more), they are concerned with getting enough to get by when the deck is stacked against them.
fake issue!
Maybe if sad people were concerned about their taxes, taxes would be lower and they wealthier.
Trumps says one thing, then does something else. He promises, changes his mind then more lies. A real scammer. He might be worth 2 billion on the backs of hard working Americans going bankrupt. He'd be in jail without money payoffs.
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...“You’re not going to change someone’s opinion of Trump merely by what’s in his tax returns,” Mr. Luntz said...
That is laughable assertion. There is no "truthful hyperbole" in one’s tax statement.
That is laughable assertion. There is no "truthful hyperbole" in one’s tax statement.
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quite the opposite.
What is he hiding? He unabashedly dismantles regulation of our food and water, protection of a woman's right to her own body and business, separation of church and state, in education, families (as he sends hardworking laborers out of the country), wants to deny millions basic health care, uses bombs to show he's "bigger", (imagining that Assad, Putin, and Ayatollahs, don't think the same thing)... he does it because he can. This is the beginning. Watch this screen, there's more to come. Investigate, charge, impeach, repeal.
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Why won't Trump direct the IRS to provide a letter/statement confirming his tax returns are in fact under audit, and if so for what years?
Could it be the returns are NOT under audit? To me, that seems very possible.
Could it be the returns are NOT under audit? To me, that seems very possible.
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It doesn't matter. Audit is no reason not to release.
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There is no law that says he can't release his taxes if they are under audit. Lying Donnie thinks we are ignorant enough to swallow his shallow excuses.
"People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook ..."
-- President Nixon, explaining why he was releasing his tax returns.
Trump obviously thinks it's better we don't know.
-- President Nixon, explaining why he was releasing his tax returns.
Trump obviously thinks it's better we don't know.
The only good news is that there are Republican legislators saying that Trump should release his returns. Trump likely will not release them even if they are subpoenaed by one of the investigation committees, which may force a showdown in the Supreme Court. Nevertheless, that Trump is losing some Republican support even incrementally is a good sign.
To justify a tax schedule that widened the economic rich-poor divide, Republicans have long said that the folks lower down on the scale were fine with a regressive system, one that strongly favored the upper end. Because, they said, "poor" folks just wanted to maximize their opportunities to get rich. But I've never seen a poll that supported that, and it seems exactly like the kind of justification high-enders would dream of.
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Waiting to see what more it will take until Trump is truly cornered on taxes and conflicts of interest. Multiple plaintifs' lawsuit against him based on emoluments clause announced today in the press is most welcome news.
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Mr. Trump is the only American who trusts the president.
The house and senate should not get a paycheck, until they review all of his tax interests with Russian fingerprints.
The house and senate should not get a paycheck, until they review all of his tax interests with Russian fingerprints.
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Generally, when hoping for change, it is necessary to look to the history. Our tax code has a long one, and the code's complexity is not likely to change much. What can change is the rates. High incomes were taxed considerably more in the past, there's no reason not to do that further, except for the vested interests fighting it and Trump supporters who vote against their own interests.
Hoping a lot of that is going to change soon is like believing Ted Cruz when he said if he were president he would abolish the IRS. It's hard to know where to even begin on how much nonsense that was.
I doubt we'll ever see Trump's tax return, except possibly a mere portion.
It's good to have dreams, but hoping for a significantly different tax code anytime soon is not realistic. What might be accomplished, if we have the sense to put the right people in office, is taxing high incomes, and other wealth, in a way that benefits our society.
Also, let's tax other stuff when it makes sense. For instance, one of the best ideas Bernie Sanders had was to tax high volume trading, a practice that adds absolutely no value to our economy but enriches a select few.
A final note: if you believe taxing imports will rescue you, try buying your next IPhone or flat screen TV once that's done.
Hoping a lot of that is going to change soon is like believing Ted Cruz when he said if he were president he would abolish the IRS. It's hard to know where to even begin on how much nonsense that was.
I doubt we'll ever see Trump's tax return, except possibly a mere portion.
It's good to have dreams, but hoping for a significantly different tax code anytime soon is not realistic. What might be accomplished, if we have the sense to put the right people in office, is taxing high incomes, and other wealth, in a way that benefits our society.
Also, let's tax other stuff when it makes sense. For instance, one of the best ideas Bernie Sanders had was to tax high volume trading, a practice that adds absolutely no value to our economy but enriches a select few.
A final note: if you believe taxing imports will rescue you, try buying your next IPhone or flat screen TV once that's done.
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Waiting to see what more it will take until Trump is cornered on his conflicts of interest and unreleased taxes. Multiple plaintiffs' lawsuit based on emoluments clause announced today in the press, most welcome news.
It is the nature of evil to be secret. If Trump has nothing to hide he would have released his tax returns a long time ago. This would have put to rest all the questions the public have about his honesty and possible hidden financial agendas and, most of all, would have silenced his critics.
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Probably the main reason for not releasing the tax returns would be the damage to the Trump brand. The returns probably show he wasn't as wealthy as he boasted. And I'm guessing that it'll show that what most of already knew - he wasn't such a hot business leader either. It sounded like they never vetted any of their business partners. Once they heard what their fee was, they just signed away.
Congress should get him to release the taxes before another party does - Wikileaks, an administrative assistant that he hit on or another country. It's only a matter of time.
Congress should get him to release the taxes before another party does - Wikileaks, an administrative assistant that he hit on or another country. It's only a matter of time.
The unreleased tax information poses no threat. The threat is from an incompetent, unprincipled grifter who seeks only adulation and self-benefit.
It is no surprise that Trump is still refusing to release his tax returns. His reward for refusing to release them during the campaign was to get elected. I am sure he calculates the upside to keeping them secret is much greater than the upside for releasing them. He Is someone who always gets rewarded for bad behavior, a Teflon Don if you will. I don't understand it, and never will. My one and only consolation is that I didn't vote for the man. Until the House and Senate move into Democratic hands, his tax returns will remain a secret.
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At first I was OK with Trump not releasing his tax returns as there's nothing in the law that demands it. But one small point is that this demand by members of congress who themselves have done nothing but pass laws (including tax laws) that serve to enrich themselves (including their own non-Social Security retirement program, their own health program (and to be shamed into having to actually pass a law ((full of holes)) that prohibits conflict of interest (as if) and almost all coming out of office as millionaires (go figure) seems the height of lowness. They are helping "he's going to enrich himself" while doing nothing but the same for years. There's a word for that. And a smell.
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The most non transparent President in history is hiding a lot of stuff including what his small hands reveal.
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Trump will not release his tax return for he will expose the fact that he does not pay his "fair" share of paying taxes, to say the least. His unwillingness has already caused him to lose political capital of his chances to reform the tax code. That said, the tax plan that Republicans will present will be even more skewed to benefit corporations and the well-to-do with the tax burden being shifted to low and middle-class income earners. Their tax plan will get even less that the 17% voters gave the proposed Trumpcare plan.
All of President Trumps dirty little secrets and lies are hidden in his tax returns. To release them would haunt him years.
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The Trump's Presidency is marred by failed campaign promises. This may be a Godsend for ordinary Americans as Reform of taxation is
clearly not in the interest of everyday American. Trump and his rich cronies will be major beneficiaries.
clearly not in the interest of everyday American. Trump and his rich cronies will be major beneficiaries.
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President Trump while campaigning clearly and repeatedly stated, with no caveats, he will make his tax returns public once the audit was completed. We all knew there was no legal, accounting or IRS requirement which prevented him from releasing his return while under audit. Regardless, we waited.
For our President now to say he will not release his tax returns is insulting and disrespectful to the American people. It documents an outright lie. Unfortunately, not the first – I’ll appoint a special prosecutor to lock her up, etc. We shouldn’t need to remind Mr. Trump that the “Tone Starts from the Top.” Misleading at best, lying at worst, to the country sets an unethical tone and demonstrates that Mr. Trump is just one more “Elected Politician” - no better than, and joining, those already in the Washington swamp.
We need to hold Elected Politicians responsible for the promises they make to US to get into office and for the damage they do to our country, often while benefiting themselves, once in office.
http://usdebtforum.com
For our President now to say he will not release his tax returns is insulting and disrespectful to the American people. It documents an outright lie. Unfortunately, not the first – I’ll appoint a special prosecutor to lock her up, etc. We shouldn’t need to remind Mr. Trump that the “Tone Starts from the Top.” Misleading at best, lying at worst, to the country sets an unethical tone and demonstrates that Mr. Trump is just one more “Elected Politician” - no better than, and joining, those already in the Washington swamp.
We need to hold Elected Politicians responsible for the promises they make to US to get into office and for the damage they do to our country, often while benefiting themselves, once in office.
http://usdebtforum.com
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How are taxes not public record, especially for elected for officials? I am quite sure that if anyone wanted to know my tax records it would be just a few clicks away on their cellphone.
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Sorry but the tax return issue HAS changed the opinion of this voter. It has made me hate him more. Didn't know that was possible.
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So now the Democrats won't cooperate unless Trump's tax returns are released? What a pathetic bunch of losers. The tax returns may have been a legitimate campaign issue, but the election is over. Time to start governing.
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Why don't you care?. If he has no financials ties to Russia and China, let him prove it. He works for us, the people. He is not a CEO and he is not above the law. So if he is a crook, you are okay with that for America, patriot?
What an insult to the American people. Most of us want to see his tax returns, yet we hear that our opinion doesn't matter. American citizens showed their concern and went on the street to be heard, yet they hear they don't matter. Never underestimate the people, this will not just go away, instead, it will get bigger and bigger like a snowball rolling down the hill.
Why Trump is so reluctant in releasing his tax returns? It is crystal clear and self-explanatory. If people still don't understand Trump's attitude toward transparency and honesty then they deserve to be deceived for the next three years.
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My only interest in seeing Demented Donny's tax returns is as part of a multiple count indictment for money laundering and tax evasion. The returns would show payments from the NYC mob during his casinos in NJ days, Russian oligarchs from Florida real estate transactions more recently and, more than likely, payments from his cabinet appointees most recently.
I want to see Trump's "physique" filling out an orange jumpsuit, think about the view from behind.
I want to see Trump's "physique" filling out an orange jumpsuit, think about the view from behind.
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What does tax reform and Trump have to do with the average American? Nothing! The average American will not benefit from either.
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It really is outrageous, but not surprising, that the GOP is stonewalling for Trump. Trump apparently thinks there is nothing to gain. To the contrary, he could release his returns with great fanfare about how transparent he is being. They could be even worse than anyone imagined and his base would still contort a rationale to support Trump.
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Releasing his returns would go a long way toward proving or disproving whether he has violated the Constitution emoluments clause and whether he is financially invested in Russia or other enterprises questionable to American interests or providing conflicts contrary to the public interest.
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The No Plan Presidency: no plan for health care reform, no plan for overhauling the tax code, no plan for the Middle East conflict. But when the plans finally come, I'm sure they will be huge.
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Obviously the liar-in-chief has calculated that the political and legal pain he will receive by not releasing his taxes. is less than the pain he will experience by releasing them. He knows that between all the ongoing investigations and this information that the game is already over and he is behaving like the coward I would expect by delaying his humiliation. Lets get this over with and end the brief reign of Donald the Terrible. Its well past time already.
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Going single payor would allow Pres. Trump to cancel all taxes used to pay healthcare subsidies because none owuld be needed. Instead Washington would gather in all funds currently paid by employers and gov. to fund healthcare and subtract this amount from the expected bill of $1.3T to get a total new net cost, likely ranging from $100B up as high as $600B. These funds could be raised by negotiating with healthcare providers to reduce their bills by 5-10%, as they will reap a single payor dividend through needing no insurance clerk in their offices, and no longer having to chase unpaid medical bills.
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I mean really, how long does an IRS audit take?
donald has shown us that he is a pathological liar. Ethics rules include the WH. If tax law is changed, enrichment of the first family should be the lowest priority. He has helped himself too much already. It is time that the Congress think about the 99%.
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I am one of those millions of Americans who want Donald Trump to release his taxes. I don't trust him and his minions. The White House is not a private business, but that seems to be the way Mr. Trump approaches the job.
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crucifying the entire economy (our jobs, our businesses, our national security, the security of our allies, our childrens' futures, etc., etc.) on a cross of Trump's unrevealed tax returns would be bad enough it weren't also a totally self-inflicted wound... have we become so politically befuddled by his election victory that our tunneled vision blots out everything else in the visible spectrum ?... this is madness
The Democrats appear to have learned nothing from the election. The electorate has shown they don't care about Trump's tax return. The Democratic party is so irrelevant that their support of tax reform is probably unnecessary. The left wing of the Democratic party has been rejected and they have nothing to say to the working class. They might as well bring Hillary back as their candidate.
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I'm glad you specified "electorate" and not "American people". The majority of this country does not support DT nor is supported by him. He's a Borgia, not a president.
This comment would be funny were it not completely wrong. Where were the street protests for Obamas birth certificate? Where we're the protests for Obamas "attack" on gun rights?? The electorate is mobilized, watch for change!!
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I guess Trump and his tax reform supporters have nothing to worry about then.
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“You’re not going to change someone’s opinion of Trump merely by what’s in his tax returns,” Mr. Luntz said.
Frank Luntz (maybe should be pronounced "Lunch" cause lately looks like he eats too much of it), the Republican's cynical message man (propagandist) and chief flack for all policies bad for average Americans.
So, if the tax returns show some really nasty connection to and dealings with abhorrent people or businesses - stomach turning stuff - there will be no reaction Frank?
Leave us alone already with your reality twisting.
Enough damage for one lifetime.
Frank Luntz (maybe should be pronounced "Lunch" cause lately looks like he eats too much of it), the Republican's cynical message man (propagandist) and chief flack for all policies bad for average Americans.
So, if the tax returns show some really nasty connection to and dealings with abhorrent people or businesses - stomach turning stuff - there will be no reaction Frank?
Leave us alone already with your reality twisting.
Enough damage for one lifetime.
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Lock him up.
He's going to get us all killed.
The fox is in the hen house. Don't let him leave with
Any eggs!
Any eggs!
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Trump really is sleaze. The US has to be a land of fools and a home of knaves to have so many people with so little character judgment to empower this spoiled bloated thug.
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But he could shoot somebody and his supporters would still vote for him.....
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You are supposedly a "billionaire" ( does that discount for a lack of ethics, sexism, stupidity, born into privilege, arrogance and more??).... perhaps we need to redefine what a "billionaire" is??
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Trump is a liar, a crook and in the words of Mike Bloomberg- " a con-man". Impeachment can't come fast enough.
PROSECUTE RUSSIAGATE! Benedict cheating on tax liability is fine to uncover, but RUSSIAGATE will put him where he belongs.
Meanwhile Ivanka Trump is using her position to woo China for lucrative trademarks for her own conpany. No conflicts there, eh?
That old tune "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" plays in my head whenever one of the tRump grifters is mentioned.
Beating their tambourines and hoodwinking the gullible with useless home remedysold out of the backsitof their wagon -- distracting the rubes with spurious glitz while slinking around behind to pick their pockets clean.
That old tune "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" plays in my head whenever one of the tRump grifters is mentioned.
Beating their tambourines and hoodwinking the gullible with useless home remedysold out of the backsitof their wagon -- distracting the rubes with spurious glitz while slinking around behind to pick their pockets clean.
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Dump Trump . . . the dough he hides cannot save him . . . and can only continue to hurt us. Dump Trump now before it's too late. Impeach the sucker!
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And why should he publish his tax returns?
He has gotten the job and now he hopes to make the most commission from squeezing this opportunity to the max.
Why should he stand true to his promises?
People bought the lies and voted him into office.
That is all he ever wanted and all he ever did in his previous jobs.
So why make life complicated and deliver?
Why do people still expect anything else from this criminal?
Impeach him and get rid of this murderer, war criminal, sex offender, fraud and liar.
Ceterum censeo Trumpem esse delendam.
He has gotten the job and now he hopes to make the most commission from squeezing this opportunity to the max.
Why should he stand true to his promises?
People bought the lies and voted him into office.
That is all he ever wanted and all he ever did in his previous jobs.
So why make life complicated and deliver?
Why do people still expect anything else from this criminal?
Impeach him and get rid of this murderer, war criminal, sex offender, fraud and liar.
Ceterum censeo Trumpem esse delendam.
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"Extreme vetting" is for brown-skinned foreigners only, I guess.
Heck - by not releasing his taxes, the so-called president has not even submitted to routine vetting.
And why should he? After all, he's rich, white and male. What other proof could you possibly need of his ethical propriety?
Heck - by not releasing his taxes, the so-called president has not even submitted to routine vetting.
And why should he? After all, he's rich, white and male. What other proof could you possibly need of his ethical propriety?
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No tax returns, no nothing. We already know the main story line, i.e., he paid very little tax, because, as he said proudly, he was "smart." Hey, many people will agree with him. [Now, what if he neglected to report something? Ah, there's the rub. Spiro Agnew anyone?].
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Surely the Republicans realize they have an ill-informed, unread, and dishonest President whose "policies" are ill-formed if defined at all. They also have a President whose popularity is decreasing with each screw-up or outrage. Pretty soon his sad Party will abandon him. There will be no other choice.
Liar, liar pants on fire? Where do I get the red cap made in China?
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All the saps out there who bought his pack of lies now learn their vote was for wealth and plutocracy, to further the interests of this group of leeches, and we must all see how the titans of wealth now run the government. What a sick TV version of populism in the hands of this glib prince. Donald rode a wave of anger and must now try to put the genie back in the bottle. Good luck now, Donald, you will need all your verbal tricks while your pack of wolves work to tear down our government.
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