What do these three have in common? One word - Sleaze!
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Is that a rhetorical question?
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President Trump with a wink and a nod, gave sexual predators the green light. And women support this guy. Women are their own worst enemies in this case.
Don't women have daughters? What message does that send to their daughters? Good grief.
This boycott needs to be sustained. It's the only thing men understand. Money and power. And women who disapprove, need to vote.
Don't women have daughters? What message does that send to their daughters? Good grief.
This boycott needs to be sustained. It's the only thing men understand. Money and power. And women who disapprove, need to vote.
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Their commonality, they are all old, ugly disgusting vile human beings.
This is so sickening it is really beyond belief.
What woman could possibly find these reprobates worthy of anything is totally mind boggling?
As a woman, words can not truly begins express my feelings, thoughts and emotions about these and others just like them.
This is so sickening it is really beyond belief.
What woman could possibly find these reprobates worthy of anything is totally mind boggling?
As a woman, words can not truly begins express my feelings, thoughts and emotions about these and others just like them.
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I was appalled that Trump's outrageous remarks about Bill O'Reilly were not a bigger story. The President of the United States goes on record defending and condoning an an acknowledged perpetrator of sexual harassment. The only downside he saw was that Fox had "settled". During Sexual Assault Awareness Month. Unspeakable. Unacceptable. Unbelievable.
Thank you for writing about it.
Thank you for writing about it.
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What a conundrum. To cover this takes focus off the real story of Putin and Trump collaboration perhaps even on airbase strike. To ignore it turns a blind eye to the license these men share. From a pragmatic standpoint, these stories don't increase anger at Trump as we saw in Nov. In fact critics claim Clinton's campaign focused too heavily on Trump' s abuse of women. So what does a news outlet do? Cover Trump's statement briefly and use the editorial real estate for stories that are the main show, not the sideshow? Tough decision. I for one would rather see headers about Trump's contradicting polices on Syrian refugees and bombing an airstrip, possibility of collusion. As a woman, I'm so done with pigs like Roger, Bill and Donald. Let them get sued, but please don't let their disgusting behavior distract us from Trump's behavior that could kill us.
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They are all Women abusers, but lets not give the impression that only Conservatives are misogynists, the Democrats had their share of gropers.
Conservative Women in great numbers supported Trump because of his stand against Abortion. Marx's said it best," religion is the opiate of the masses".
Conservative Women in great numbers supported Trump because of his stand against Abortion. Marx's said it best," religion is the opiate of the masses".
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All the talk about Fox misses that as far as I can see sexual harassment is just one more PC talking point conservatives don't believe in.
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We all know what the three of them have in common. One has gone. Now, let's make it three. Anything less would be a wink and a nod that sexually assaulting woman is permissible. It isn't.
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Trump's declaration of April as Sexual Awareness Month -- another Trumpian hilarious irony! (when are we going to use this adjective to describe this?)
I can't wait until these old white men who have money and power, but zero
character, to disappear!
P.S. I am an old white woman who may not get to see it, alas...
I can't wait until these old white men who have money and power, but zero
character, to disappear!
P.S. I am an old white woman who may not get to see it, alas...
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This seems like a trick question... they all sexually harass women and expect to get away with it and then squeal like oversized babies when forced to face the consequences.
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When will a boycott of Fox include the World Series and NFL football; some of their top money makers. And their movies. We all support this sickness run by Rupert Murdoch who seems to float above all this trash while we support the bulk of Fox in areas other than News.
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Please see this Gender Shrapnel Blog post from way back in September, 2016, to read more on this issue: https://gendershrapnel.org/2016/09/19/fox-news-and-the-cycle-of-sexual-h... .
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Criminalizing poverty.
Treating women as chattels.
Denying voting rights to people who look different.
Claiming "religion" is adhering to the doctrine of success and repression preached by people who would prefer you not read the Gospels or follow the gospels.
Clean air, water, and earth are only there to be destroyed for profit. The waste and toxins are for poor people.
It's all the same. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Treating women as chattels.
Denying voting rights to people who look different.
Claiming "religion" is adhering to the doctrine of success and repression preached by people who would prefer you not read the Gospels or follow the gospels.
Clean air, water, and earth are only there to be destroyed for profit. The waste and toxins are for poor people.
It's all the same. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Luettgen:
You sound like Trump STILL always bringing up Bill Clinton as a convenient distraction and equivalency. This article is not about Bill Clinton; why should she mention him?
You sound like Trump STILL always bringing up Bill Clinton as a convenient distraction and equivalency. This article is not about Bill Clinton; why should she mention him?
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Why did our leaders allow a foreign billionaire to buy several top media outlets in the U.S. and hire people to spew out his own right-wing values and agenda? The South was not as angry or "ate up with politics" 20 years ago....BEFORE FOX News came on. FOX has allowed crackpots and fear-mongers to spout rumors and lies and to push conspiracy theories. Why didn't our leaders stop this harmful brainwashing of unsuspecting viewers? FOX has absolutely ruined my relatives in GA and turned them into complete idiots whereas they used to be fun and even smart! O'Reilly, Hannity, Carlson, and Ailes, and especially Murdoch have brought out the worst in my fellow citizens. I pray to God that somebody will bring a stop to this horrible Mess that Murdoch has brought to fruition in my beloved country. James, Lachlan, please ask your Daddy to go home and be with his beautiful new wife, and you two guys change FOX into a prize-winning tv channel where Walter Cronkite would be proud to work! You can change the entire attitude and direction of our country. Just Do It!
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Our leaders are the recently elected “Established Mainstream Republican” and “Established Mainstream Democratic” congressmen, congresswomen, senators, governors, presidents and other government positions that money from that the Clinton Foundation” donors, the elite “DONOR CLASS” campaign contributors, and PACs (foreign and domestic) campaign contributors can buy.
Our elected and appointed officials do, however, offer to sell their votes for tax loopholes, bankruptcy laws, offshore tax havens, Free Trade Agreements, MFN trade statuses, PNTR trade statuses, Alaskan drilling permits, no-bid PAY TO PLAY government contracts funded from the public treasuries such as the CGI Federal no-bid contract; Solyndra type government loan guarantees; MILITARY SECRET weapon system software transferred to Communist China (Hughes Aircraft company Rocket Guidance Software - Google up “Chinagate”); H.1.b. visa increases; more U.S. taxpayer foreign aid to finance the building of more Nuclear Bombs for/in Israel; presidential pardons for convicted felons, and new laws to benefit their campaign contributor's business, US citizens, foreign governments, and/or to anybody else offering money, at very reasonable prices.
Maybe Donald Trump is wealthy enough to not be susceptible to the bribery attached to financial campaign contributions that other candidates accepted in return for the politician’s promises of financial benefits from the US Government Treasury and new US Government laws.
Our elected and appointed officials do, however, offer to sell their votes for tax loopholes, bankruptcy laws, offshore tax havens, Free Trade Agreements, MFN trade statuses, PNTR trade statuses, Alaskan drilling permits, no-bid PAY TO PLAY government contracts funded from the public treasuries such as the CGI Federal no-bid contract; Solyndra type government loan guarantees; MILITARY SECRET weapon system software transferred to Communist China (Hughes Aircraft company Rocket Guidance Software - Google up “Chinagate”); H.1.b. visa increases; more U.S. taxpayer foreign aid to finance the building of more Nuclear Bombs for/in Israel; presidential pardons for convicted felons, and new laws to benefit their campaign contributor's business, US citizens, foreign governments, and/or to anybody else offering money, at very reasonable prices.
Maybe Donald Trump is wealthy enough to not be susceptible to the bribery attached to financial campaign contributions that other candidates accepted in return for the politician’s promises of financial benefits from the US Government Treasury and new US Government laws.
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This is just one of the hypocrisies in the philosophy of the political right: The strongest male advocates of a self-identified libertarian freedom-for-all see no conflict exploiting women personally or in advocating policies that deny their defined freedom to half of the human population. I'm afraid it goes beyond politics into social gender identity, regrettably maybe even human nature. Have we forgotten Bill Clinton already?
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Bill Clinton engaged in consensual encounters. Have we forgotten JFK already? And MLK? Allegations otherwise were never more than that: allegations - fanned by extreme right groups like Judicial Watch and therefore not very credible.
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I do not remember sexual harassment before the 1990's.
Maybe women have always used their sexuality to improve their economic position, job security and etc.
Maybe women have had enough and are now exposing this situation.
Maybe women have always used their sexuality to improve their economic position, job security and etc.
Maybe women have had enough and are now exposing this situation.
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Should include Bill Clinton and Joe Biden/Clarence Thomas in the list. It was the 1990s where the sexual harassers lied and got away with it that set the stage.
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As in everything else, moderation and balance is a key in eliminating unprofessional and harmful attitudes in a workplace. Professional women, especially if they happen to be attractive, suffer from dismissive or inappropriate remarks of their male superiors. It happened to me but my revenge was to show these guys that a beautiful woman can be as smart and tough as they are. Of course, the management has a role in making the workplace welcoming to women. All this said, I'm uncomfortable with the hints of mass hysteria emanating from some of these comments. A compliment, even if unwanted or inappropriate, won't traumatize you for life. A guys looking at your legs is not necessarily a would-be rapist. There is a difference between being pressured to trade sex for promotion and being asked out. There is a puritanical streak in American culture which is as damaging as sexist attitudes of powerful men. Sex-based with hunts, such as the recovered memory movement, ruined many lives. So men should watch what they say and do, and women should lighten up.
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Trump declared the month of April as Sexual Assault Month. I do not know what he meant by that? Is it to Assault women more? Trump is well known sex addict. We have seen Access Hollywood video and knows his mode of action. FOX TV network is something like Playboy mansion. Mr.Murdoch is a businessman who is interested in money only. So he approved sexual harassment of female employees by male counterpart . Roger Ailes , O'Reilly and few other pervert male employees have been involved in inappropriate sexual predatory activities on female employees for years. All these guys are loved by evangelicals and religious voters . They preach family values and love for Jesus Christ. All these guys are A class characterless hypocrites.
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Considering the amazing Women's March following 45's inauguration, I think we might be surprised at the staying power of these boycotts. Trump's presidency has mobilized the younger generation to not only speak out, but to act as well. True all ages of women (and men) marched. I'd bet that 45's racism & sexism were the predominate reasons younger women came out in such great numbers all across the country. They are social media savvy, not afraid to speak out and they aren't going to sit back and let this happen.
Most were likely either Clinton or Sanders supporters. They reject the republican party's views/actions/behaviors/policies on women, people of color, LGBTQ people, people who are disabled, poor etc. And it is this younger generation who has had their futures stolen from them by rising education costs, growing income inequality and social conservativism.
As women, they live with the very real and high potential of being sexually harassed and/or assaulted in the workplace or any place. These young people are the future. I think we are seeing a major shift in acceptance of sexual assault/harassment as the status quo.
Most were likely either Clinton or Sanders supporters. They reject the republican party's views/actions/behaviors/policies on women, people of color, LGBTQ people, people who are disabled, poor etc. And it is this younger generation who has had their futures stolen from them by rising education costs, growing income inequality and social conservativism.
As women, they live with the very real and high potential of being sexually harassed and/or assaulted in the workplace or any place. These young people are the future. I think we are seeing a major shift in acceptance of sexual assault/harassment as the status quo.
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What do Trump, O'Reilly and Ailes have in common?
Support of the white demographic and antipathy of minorities.
Support of the white demographic and antipathy of minorities.
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Ugly is, as Ugly does. Just saying.
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What will make them stop is money: having to give it up. It doesn't change what Neanderthals think, but it forces behavioral change. Better on air behavior also doesn't teach and reinforce anti- women attitudes. Controlling back office harassment means women will have a greater role, and not hesitate to express opinions that are not in line with the boss'.
And who knows, being forced to pretend to respect women might lead to actual respect, which would be nice.
In business, it's about money. Civil suits where there are no other means of addressing the issue. I don't care about retraining the fools, because they regard mistreatment of women as a joke, and have since they were adolescents. They can go home and do what they want. But in business, use the leverage that works to level the playing field: make the companies and harassers pay.
And who knows, being forced to pretend to respect women might lead to actual respect, which would be nice.
In business, it's about money. Civil suits where there are no other means of addressing the issue. I don't care about retraining the fools, because they regard mistreatment of women as a joke, and have since they were adolescents. They can go home and do what they want. But in business, use the leverage that works to level the playing field: make the companies and harassers pay.
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Exactly, and if there is no penalty for doing something, then why should anybody stop!
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One of the chief joys of getting old has been the cessation of the constant ogling, harassment and assault I experience as a younger woman. I have been propositioned by teachers, bosses and strangers. All of this was unwanted and detrimental to my mental and spiritual health. I don't think men can know how harmful their behavior is to these young women. Or any woman. I don't think they care. I can't get this picture out of my mind-trump in the teenage locker room.
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I wish someone would interview the women left at FOX and ask them how they evaded the bad guys that are there. Maybe they just punched them in the face and the harassment ended.
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The title forgot to add Bill Clinton.
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You don't have the Time to Change their Minds,.. (and BTW why should you be so Inclined??)
So the only way to stop it,..is to Hit "Em In Their Pockets.
So the only way to stop it,..is to Hit "Em In Their Pockets.
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It has been mentioned many times before but you neglected to include Bill Clinton. Could it be that you are targeting only conservative men? If you did fair and balanced reporting he would be on your list too.
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...and 53% of white, female voters cast ballots in favor of Trump. What's up with that?
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American women are very fortunate to have more freedom than in so many other parts of the world, but on the other hand, we also still must deal with age old sexual harassment, and so often at the hands of someone who is in a position of authority for us . . .a boss, teacher or in my case, a stepfather. From the time I turned 12, I was subjected to comments on how small my breasts were or how I sure knew how to shake my tail feathers, I had absolutely no idea what he meant at the time, but I wish he knew that my memories of him now are as a filthy old man who turned my stomach whenever I saw him.
Trump, O'Reilly or my stepfather . . .horrible human beings who should be branded with the letters "SA", sexual abuser of those who can't fight back.
Trump, O'Reilly or my stepfather . . .horrible human beings who should be branded with the letters "SA", sexual abuser of those who can't fight back.
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"Oh, and the other day, President Trump declared April Sexual Assault Awareness Month." Did he make the announcement on April 1st?
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This is not just about sexual harassment, it's really about rich, white men can still do what they want. None of the men you speak of have really paid for their crime, in fact all the media coverage helped one get elected president! These men and need to pay for what they did, not just settle out of court for a few bucks.
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There is a reason our law states "not convicted, until proof of guilt." It is too easy to convict in the court of public opinion. Under this analysis, every disgruntled female would be able to destroy a co-worker or politician she had disdain for. Every man who ever joked on Howard Stern would also be a target. At least with Bill Clinton there was the blue dress.
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Yes, but that encounter was consensual...
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Sexual harassment is as old as humankind. I am a woman and I hate it. But, there is, mysteriously, more to this complex story. My best friend who is beautiful and a victim of sexual harassment her whole career voted, uncomprehendingly, for Trump. I was astounded. Why I asked? She replied " I know a lot of women who open their legs for rich men." She blamed the women. I challenged her by reminding her that she had been demoted and denied promotions because she refused to 'play', Was that her fault too, I asked? She shrugged, her position was indefensible and we both knew it. I don't have an answer for my friend's decision, it is a mystery to me why women vote against themselves on this issue.
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Sexual harassment/abuse is pervasive; it is part of our macho American culture. It goes beyond the workplace; it is in the military, in our schools and colleges, in our very families, and it continues because it is also in our courts.
When women come forward (not an easy thing to do) the typical American response is that she is lying or she welcomed the abuse. Juries, made up of men and women raised in the American culture of sexually abusing women as a norm, make it difficult for victims to get justice. Judges have given out sentences that make a perverse joke of the crime and its punishment.
Ultimately and ironically, it is up to women to end the culture of sexual abuse (men are not going to give up this culture of dominance willingly). It would begin with mothers no longer raising children with the attitude that boys will be boys, that girls should expect disrespect of their bodies, that expressions of sexual assault should be dismissed as innocent locker room talk. Women who voted for Trump are clear evidence of the problem and they don't even know it.
Women are equal human beings. They need to not just believe it, but demand it. Our American macho culture must be changed.
BTW, Trump declaring April Sexual Assault Awareness Month is a mockery of this pervasive crime. Trump is emblematic of all that is wrong in our American culture.
When women come forward (not an easy thing to do) the typical American response is that she is lying or she welcomed the abuse. Juries, made up of men and women raised in the American culture of sexually abusing women as a norm, make it difficult for victims to get justice. Judges have given out sentences that make a perverse joke of the crime and its punishment.
Ultimately and ironically, it is up to women to end the culture of sexual abuse (men are not going to give up this culture of dominance willingly). It would begin with mothers no longer raising children with the attitude that boys will be boys, that girls should expect disrespect of their bodies, that expressions of sexual assault should be dismissed as innocent locker room talk. Women who voted for Trump are clear evidence of the problem and they don't even know it.
Women are equal human beings. They need to not just believe it, but demand it. Our American macho culture must be changed.
BTW, Trump declaring April Sexual Assault Awareness Month is a mockery of this pervasive crime. Trump is emblematic of all that is wrong in our American culture.
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Bill Clinton still holds the #1 title; he is ACTION and not just words.
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This article implies that women in the workplace are all innocent virgins and are never guilty of sexual harassment. That is far from the truth. Their version of harassment may be more subtle than that of men but it can be just as annoying
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Read the article please. it mentions a female CEO who sexually harassed a female employee.
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We have a ruling class that, um, limps along.
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This is why I taught my daughter how to throw a punch when she was three.
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so...it is actually a cultural thing...its persistence, despite the protests, is marked by such indicators as the "lose a wrinkle, shed a pound," industry, not to mention the way women are dressed on the very media that carry the news and gossip of protest...face it, objectification is still rampant and disrespect still lurks, even on elizabeth warren's payroll.
Everyone needs to examine Donald Trump's assertion, “I Don’t Think Bill O’Reilly Did Anything Wrong.”
Those are not the words people use to question weather someone has done something.
Those are the word people use to argue that an action was not improper.
That sentence should be read as Donald Trump's approval of sexual harassment.
Those are not the words people use to question weather someone has done something.
Those are the word people use to argue that an action was not improper.
That sentence should be read as Donald Trump's approval of sexual harassment.
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They all weigh about there same?
For any man to be considering any woman's right to anything short of his wallet should not be topic open for discussion. That it is and has actual negative repercussions for mothers wives and daughters should give all men not just legislators at least a moment of pause, but clearly some of us are just too obtuse to ever consider women as more than accessories and other men as more than stepping stones. Unfortunately this is where we here find ourselves. Things will change, but a lot of women will suffer before the dodos who make the laws wonder why they are waking up in cold empty beds.
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You can include JFK in the bunch too, along with Bill Clinton. And I'm a liberal saying this.
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LBJ too.
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Please add many more men.....
Please discuss sugar daddy sugar baby phenomenon.
Please discuss what is appropriate if any sexual behavior (i.e. From flirting leading all the way to marriage) on the workplace.
Please define sexual harrassmant. I think some may hold the non-legal definition.
Most behaviors are grey area. Not clear harrassment.
Please discuss what is appropriate if any sexual behavior (i.e. From flirting leading all the way to marriage) on the workplace.
Please define sexual harrassmant. I think some may hold the non-legal definition.
Most behaviors are grey area. Not clear harrassment.
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If you "Don't Know" you're Sexually Harassing someone,...it's probably because you don't want to know,...indicative of rationalization,..episodes of Cognitive Dissonance.
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All that money at their disposal, you'd think Ailes, O'Reilly, etc. would just go out and pay for a high priced hooker. At least the hooker would get paid AND be compliant. Maybe it's still the chase for the old farts.
Let's call FOX what they've been labeling Ivanka....complicit.
Kudos to sponsors for vacating. Too bad they didn't vacate the network though. Again...money talks.
Let's call FOX what they've been labeling Ivanka....complicit.
Kudos to sponsors for vacating. Too bad they didn't vacate the network though. Again...money talks.
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It's about power, not just sexual satisfaction.
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Where is the rest of this story. These men have been exposed like many politicians, preachers, and maybe a few plumbers before them, but what they all really share is high success at "nailing" women. Is it is safe guess to think that for every rejection, these super wealthy and influential men scored 5 successes? Who are these women? Where are these women now? Were they victims out of fear, or out of stupidity or just glad to share sex for opportunity and adventure? Are they ashamed or remorseful or are they just going on about their daily lives like the cast of "Sex and the City?"
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What do JFK, RFK, Joe Kennedy Sr, Bill Clinton And Al Gore have in common?
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They engaged in consensual encounters outside of marriage, not sexual harassment.
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What are the hallmarks of a man of greatness? According to Trump, Ailes, and O'Reilly, it is to be envied by less fortunate men. We the winners are up here, and you losers are down there looking up at us. There is the totality of their life-vision.
And what do they think other men envy them for? Being seen escorted in public by super-models, accruing obscene amounts of cash, the power to crush their critics, and lastly but most importantly - fame 24/7.
It is a hall of mirrors, and rhapsody of vanity. But we are paying for it.
And what do they think other men envy them for? Being seen escorted in public by super-models, accruing obscene amounts of cash, the power to crush their critics, and lastly but most importantly - fame 24/7.
It is a hall of mirrors, and rhapsody of vanity. But we are paying for it.
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When President Trump came out in support of Bill O’Reilly, the first thing that came to my mind was an old English proverb, “Birds of a feather flock together.” Even more disappointing was Trump’s utter cluelessness in expressing this support for O’Reilly barely a couple days after he had “declared April Sexual Assault Awareness Month.” And given Fox News’ continued support for its golden goose, one wonders how serious both, the president of the United States and the leading conservative media organization in the country are about sexual harassment in the workplace?
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Dear Ms Chira,
Haven't we forgotten Bill Clinton in this compilation of the most prominent list of accused sexual predators? Isn't that a significant omission?
Haven't we forgotten Bill Clinton in this compilation of the most prominent list of accused sexual predators? Isn't that a significant omission?
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All 3 of these men are the very definition of UGLY both inside and out. They have no respect for women, and it amazes me that they ever found wives - although the number of divorces they have among them indicates that they are truly nasty slugs.
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Why pull any punches?. Ailes, Trump and O'Reilly have one thing in common, they are all pigs. They treat women like garbage. What else is there to say?
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We could say, there in good company. Have you heard of Bill Clinton?
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You have to ask yourself what the target audience of Oreillys show think of his alleged behaviour. Conservative Christians seem to be lapping up married men like Trump and Bill oreilly hrassing all these women while married, whats that say about their true values?
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There are women, including young and attractive who gravitate to the power holders using their pulcritud to curry favor with men older, married, etc. I doubt they are naive about flirtations that scream "I want to get to know you personally." Or, "let's go have a drink." Tease too many men and you'll get some takers. Who's to blame in situations like these? A man, manager, executive or supervisor isn't trained to deal with these these situations. Nothing good comes from it. But, why does the man always end up the bad guy?
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Oh, please!!! This, "what's a man to do when a woman comes on to him" meme is getting pretty old. Gee, my college and/or employer didn't give me any training on what to do in these situations and now I'm the bad guy?
For starters, NO ONE can MAKE you engage in a relationship, fling, etc. Unless, of course, there is actual or threatened physical harm or some other serious form of coercion. Men CHOOSE to get involved. And most corporate employers DO provide sexual harassment training.
Essentially this is no difference from a situation where another employee invites you to embezzle from the company with them. Would you threaten your job/career because of a lust for money? Most guys wouldn't. Those who do deserve the legal consequences! It's your choice.
Sure there are women who gravitate to men with power & money. But, that's not a crime. Men & women all have something they gravitate to in a potential mate.
What you are saying is that women who are attracted to power/money are bad and it's impossible for them to be sexually harassed or assaulted. This sounds like a rape myth to me. Restated: Women are gold-diggers & will take you for your money/power, have sex with you then claim it wasn't consensual.
Right. Because it is soooo much FUN to file a sexual harassment claim at work or falsely report a crime to the police. And women are ALWAYS believed...
I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to show you...
For starters, NO ONE can MAKE you engage in a relationship, fling, etc. Unless, of course, there is actual or threatened physical harm or some other serious form of coercion. Men CHOOSE to get involved. And most corporate employers DO provide sexual harassment training.
Essentially this is no difference from a situation where another employee invites you to embezzle from the company with them. Would you threaten your job/career because of a lust for money? Most guys wouldn't. Those who do deserve the legal consequences! It's your choice.
Sure there are women who gravitate to men with power & money. But, that's not a crime. Men & women all have something they gravitate to in a potential mate.
What you are saying is that women who are attracted to power/money are bad and it's impossible for them to be sexually harassed or assaulted. This sounds like a rape myth to me. Restated: Women are gold-diggers & will take you for your money/power, have sex with you then claim it wasn't consensual.
Right. Because it is soooo much FUN to file a sexual harassment claim at work or falsely report a crime to the police. And women are ALWAYS believed...
I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to show you...
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Sexual predators rarely assault their victims in front of others. Sexual abusers are often seen in the community as non threatening.
Last week there was a Judiciary Committee Senate hearing called by Chairman Senator Grassley and Ranking Member Senator Feinstein concerning sexual abuse of minors and vulnerable adults associated with USA Gymnastics and Michigan State University. Why are so many people not aware of this sexual abuse scandal which has more victims then the Penn State and Bill Cosby sexual abuse stories combined? Is it because we as a whole find it difficult to believe victims of sexual abuse? Is it because we don't want to believe sexual abuse and harassment have as damaging effects on its victims as health and legal experts confirm? Until we recognize that sexual abuse is a serious crime with profound implications to its victims and to society we will continue to allow acts of sexual violence to occur with little to no consequences. Senate Bill S.534- Protecting Young Victims from Sexual Abuse Act of 2017 will continue to strengthen protections that Congress has been enacting to make our country safer. Please encourage your Senators to support this legislation.
Last week there was a Judiciary Committee Senate hearing called by Chairman Senator Grassley and Ranking Member Senator Feinstein concerning sexual abuse of minors and vulnerable adults associated with USA Gymnastics and Michigan State University. Why are so many people not aware of this sexual abuse scandal which has more victims then the Penn State and Bill Cosby sexual abuse stories combined? Is it because we as a whole find it difficult to believe victims of sexual abuse? Is it because we don't want to believe sexual abuse and harassment have as damaging effects on its victims as health and legal experts confirm? Until we recognize that sexual abuse is a serious crime with profound implications to its victims and to society we will continue to allow acts of sexual violence to occur with little to no consequences. Senate Bill S.534- Protecting Young Victims from Sexual Abuse Act of 2017 will continue to strengthen protections that Congress has been enacting to make our country safer. Please encourage your Senators to support this legislation.
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"The lesson Mr. Trump apparently drew is" not "that powerful men are not going to be held accountable", but rather women often bring different points of view to such events--i.e., not all women feel comfortable wearing the "pink ears" ideology at all times.
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One systemic problem with the office culture in the US that harms us, women, men, and otherwise, is that the offending conduct of an individual is always found to be “out of bounds”, suggesting that similar conduct might be “in bounds”. Moreover, the offending conduct really has nothing to due with gender.
No feminist seems to argue that the rules of office relations should be those found in traditional monasteries and convents, particularly where individuals followed a strict interpersonal conservatism. No one seems to be arguing for us to wear to the office dull uniforms and to wear no makeup or anything with an aroma, except in the military – and we know that such strict military rules fail to dampen all extreme gender-related conduct
Many marriages have arisen from office relationships because neither partner not only did not find the other person behaving offensively, but found that person behaving in an attractive way: such flirting was acceptable and appropriate.
The one common element central to the offending conduct of O’Reilly, Ailes, and Trump is their unacceptable assertion of privilege, their abuse of privilege. It just so happens that the privilege such people have in the office, and granted them by our society, does not extend to matters of intimacy, but it is hugely important to their success and to the success of every person who works for them. Their problem is they think they own the privilege, when they are only stewards of it for the commonweal.
No feminist seems to argue that the rules of office relations should be those found in traditional monasteries and convents, particularly where individuals followed a strict interpersonal conservatism. No one seems to be arguing for us to wear to the office dull uniforms and to wear no makeup or anything with an aroma, except in the military – and we know that such strict military rules fail to dampen all extreme gender-related conduct
Many marriages have arisen from office relationships because neither partner not only did not find the other person behaving offensively, but found that person behaving in an attractive way: such flirting was acceptable and appropriate.
The one common element central to the offending conduct of O’Reilly, Ailes, and Trump is their unacceptable assertion of privilege, their abuse of privilege. It just so happens that the privilege such people have in the office, and granted them by our society, does not extend to matters of intimacy, but it is hugely important to their success and to the success of every person who works for them. Their problem is they think they own the privilege, when they are only stewards of it for the commonweal.
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Don't disagree with any of it, but why is Ivanka Trump included in the list of sexual predators. Fine to boycott her brand for political reasons, but using your position to sell your product is not sexual harassment.
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Ivanka is complicit.
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Of course, Bill Clinton was not only accused of sexual harassment, but he lost his law license over a sexual harassment scandal and paid out a settlement of just under $1 million to one of his victims.
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As a New Yorker it would be nice to see a tally of the corporate largess and tax credits News Corporation has received over the years. Up until last year they were negotiating a deal for space in the World Trade Center for corporate HQ and studios. The deal fell apart when the Port Authority backed away from subsidizing rent. In Fox parlance "Free stuff!" If there is a lawsuit by shareholders or prosecution over these settlements these costs ought to be uh factored in.
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Whether by harassment or abuse, more than 80% of women are sexually victimized in the U.S. Men find women sexually attractive and they aggressively seek their affections. Singling out one workplace or another does little to control the problem. As long as there are attractive women the problem will continue.
Men have ever been able to control their improper urges. But if women dressed more modestly, particularly in the workplace, that would likely help. Many women reasonably complain that it is not them who should have to change their habits. In theory thaat is correct. In practice, it does little to help. Statistics show that working women pay twice a much on clothing as working men,
Simply stated, men are all too inclined to commit abuse and women are all too inclined to spend lots of money to look good. Politically correct or not, the solution is obvious. Spending by Spanish women on work attire has recently decreased, as have the incidents of harassment and abuse. Of course, any suggestion that women are partly at fault is offensive. But it is pretty clear that the less women spend on clothing, the lower harassment levels will be.
It appears that the best solution is politically incorrect. The choice appears to be being harassed or dressing modestly.
Men have ever been able to control their improper urges. But if women dressed more modestly, particularly in the workplace, that would likely help. Many women reasonably complain that it is not them who should have to change their habits. In theory thaat is correct. In practice, it does little to help. Statistics show that working women pay twice a much on clothing as working men,
Simply stated, men are all too inclined to commit abuse and women are all too inclined to spend lots of money to look good. Politically correct or not, the solution is obvious. Spending by Spanish women on work attire has recently decreased, as have the incidents of harassment and abuse. Of course, any suggestion that women are partly at fault is offensive. But it is pretty clear that the less women spend on clothing, the lower harassment levels will be.
It appears that the best solution is politically incorrect. The choice appears to be being harassed or dressing modestly.
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No. Men need to learn to control and discipline themselves, especially that little brain down there that seems to do much of their thinking. Women are not the gatekeepers nor are they responsible for the thoughts and actions of someone else. Common example - a man sees a woman walking down the street with a low cut blouse on. Oh that woman is turning me on says the man. Incorrect thinking. The woman did not make you do anything. You got turned on because its a split second instinctual reaction driven largely by testosterone. Maybe a man cannot stop the split second reaction from happening, but they can stop, think and choose how to act next. But hardly any of them want to put any effort into that process, its called mindfulness. Instead we get what was the woman wearing and other character assaults when its woman vs some guys undisciplined out of control sexual lust. Anything to deflect the attention from the root cause of the problem.
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This is really a stupid (and I use the word advisedly) post. You can spend $5,000 on a gorgeous jacket that is modest in the extreme. What does spending money on clothing have to do with modesty? If your point is that women should dress modestly, it has, truly, nothing to do with how much she spends. I, for one, have lived my whole life oblivious to the fact that men's primitive urges are the basis for the ruination of the planet. It doesn't matter if a woman is beautiful or if she is plain: a man wants what he wants, and he'll take a 10 year old boy, defending himself that he has a "sexual emergency" or a grandmother in a wheelchair.
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"It's their fault for dressing provocatively." What's next? Burkas? How about chastity devices for MEN? They're out there, and some are VERY ingenious.
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Bill Clinton is in this group too beginning when he was governor of Arkansas and through his time in the whitehouse. Clinton got away with it though he lied about what he had been doing for so long. He remained president. Trump seems to be accused a lot, but so far the only thing he did is say nasty things to Billy Bush. Clinton actually dd the nasty things. It is all shameful.
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Spare me the hypocrisy (although I know that to do so is impossible in politics). Is it the opinion of the commenters here that only white, conservative men abuse women sexually?
Senator Edward Kennedy, while conducting one of his many sexual dalliances in betrayal of his wife and children, actually caused the death of a pretty young female campaign worker when he took a wrong turn on Chappaquiddick Island and deposited his automobile and Mary Jo Kopechne into a salt water pond. Kennedy got out of the car, Kopechne did not.
The Senator from Massachusetts thereby fled the scene and swam back to Edgarton, not contacting the police until the following morning, whereupon he gave a statement full of lies. We know that this statement was full of lies because the Senator several days later gave a contradictory account to the American people full of new lies.
It will be left to others to determine if Ms. Kopechne might have been saved if a full rescue attempt had been mounted immediately. Others may also dispute the claims of members of the Grand Jury impaneled to investigate the accident that they had been blocked from calling witnesses needed to hold their investigation.
Ultimately Senator Kennedy was sentenced to a mandatory two months imprisonment for leaving the scene of an accident, which sentence was suspended, and it is believed that the voters of Massachusetts still re-elect the Senator posthumously to his Senate seat every six years.
Senator Edward Kennedy, while conducting one of his many sexual dalliances in betrayal of his wife and children, actually caused the death of a pretty young female campaign worker when he took a wrong turn on Chappaquiddick Island and deposited his automobile and Mary Jo Kopechne into a salt water pond. Kennedy got out of the car, Kopechne did not.
The Senator from Massachusetts thereby fled the scene and swam back to Edgarton, not contacting the police until the following morning, whereupon he gave a statement full of lies. We know that this statement was full of lies because the Senator several days later gave a contradictory account to the American people full of new lies.
It will be left to others to determine if Ms. Kopechne might have been saved if a full rescue attempt had been mounted immediately. Others may also dispute the claims of members of the Grand Jury impaneled to investigate the accident that they had been blocked from calling witnesses needed to hold their investigation.
Ultimately Senator Kennedy was sentenced to a mandatory two months imprisonment for leaving the scene of an accident, which sentence was suspended, and it is believed that the voters of Massachusetts still re-elect the Senator posthumously to his Senate seat every six years.
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@Bill: Wow, you had to reach back VERY far to come up with that ONE example - nearly 50 years back, in fact. Now go back 50 years in Republican history and show me all the perfect men the GOP has produced.
Ted Kennedy, in his capacity in Congress, at least worked actively and tirelessly for the good of the majority of people in this country. You can't say that about the Republicans over the last 50 years, and certainly not about the 3 men who are the subject of this article.
Ted Kennedy, in his capacity in Congress, at least worked actively and tirelessly for the good of the majority of people in this country. You can't say that about the Republicans over the last 50 years, and certainly not about the 3 men who are the subject of this article.
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The reason why we 'coastal elites' don't connect with Trump supporters is wanting to use words like 'harridan' in articles. While it may mean what the author means (and I personally appreciated learning a new word, rare for me) you don't empathize/connect with readers who you're making feel uneducated. Use accessible language for starters. This rang true: "But women who voted for him either shrugged it off as how men talk among themselves or decided that his promises to create jobs and tighten borders mattered more." Is that unreasonable of them? The reality is there is some truth to both. Even in elite colleges, how do we think men talk in the privacy of fraternities or sports teams, or just among guy friends? In a not-so-politically correct way. Objectifying, disrespectful. And also, objectively speaking, a voter can reasonably claim that it is more important to her that her President improve her lot in life than be some paragon of virtue. Bill Clinton wasn't. But non-consensual sexual predation and harassment assessed within a financial paradigm makes sense. To Fox, paying tens of millions is simply the cost of employing popular predators who make hundreds of millions for the company. Advertisers have just punished Bill, not Fox since all but one have just moved their ad dollars to other shows on Fox. They are only possibly punishing Bill, not the network that has enabled and forgiven O'Reilly and Ailes.
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It would work if he actually cares about jobs. He only cares about boasting and "winning" and if pretending his policies create rather than destroy jobs works, that's fine with him.
Kleptocrats aren't "job creators" no matter how throbbing the tones are. Programs that help small businesses, especially universal health care, would help businesses thrive. The theft that is the question for billions by stealing pennies from working stiffs, that's Trumpism.
We need public services, good public schools, protection from toxic waste, protection for workers from predatory employment practices.
Kleptocrats aren't "job creators" no matter how throbbing the tones are. Programs that help small businesses, especially universal health care, would help businesses thrive. The theft that is the question for billions by stealing pennies from working stiffs, that's Trumpism.
We need public services, good public schools, protection from toxic waste, protection for workers from predatory employment practices.
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Hmmmmm, looks like you left someone famous off the list. Might it be because he's a Democrat?
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During the past 17 years, I've resided in the "Red States" of Georgia, South Carolina, Oklahoma, and Arizona.
And, in that regard, I've spoken with women, who've supported misogynistic GOP candidates, about why, as females, they can do so.
Here's what was found that most had in common -- especially the ones who were conspicuously religious fundamentalists.
Their fellow females, who had come to the attention of the general public, for having made any types of sexual charges, against men, thought that such alleged victims, of sexual assault, deserved it, because they had been singled out, for punishment, by their Christian god, for the sin of Eve.
That's right; because Eve, defied the Christian god, by eating from the "tree of knowledge" most felt that sexually abused females, were just getting what they deserved, and why they couldn't possibly vote for Hillary.
Wouldn't vote for Hillary, because their Christian god clearly wanted all females, to be subordinate to their male counterparts.
So, unless, and until, all GOP voting females, abandon their misogynistic Christian faiths, such women will continue to have senses of self loathing, and continue to support GOP male candidates, and Fox Propagandists, regardless of how personally obnoxious they happen to be.
And, in that regard, I've spoken with women, who've supported misogynistic GOP candidates, about why, as females, they can do so.
Here's what was found that most had in common -- especially the ones who were conspicuously religious fundamentalists.
Their fellow females, who had come to the attention of the general public, for having made any types of sexual charges, against men, thought that such alleged victims, of sexual assault, deserved it, because they had been singled out, for punishment, by their Christian god, for the sin of Eve.
That's right; because Eve, defied the Christian god, by eating from the "tree of knowledge" most felt that sexually abused females, were just getting what they deserved, and why they couldn't possibly vote for Hillary.
Wouldn't vote for Hillary, because their Christian god clearly wanted all females, to be subordinate to their male counterparts.
So, unless, and until, all GOP voting females, abandon their misogynistic Christian faiths, such women will continue to have senses of self loathing, and continue to support GOP male candidates, and Fox Propagandists, regardless of how personally obnoxious they happen to be.
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I know what you say to be true, but it pin points a fallacy in the practice of these so-called Christians. For anyone to say that someone's misfortune is the judgment of God presumes the mind of God and is, itself, blasphemy. It is not the only example of where mistaken Christian belief leads adherents to adopt positions against their own interests.
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Thanks - this something that has been overlooked in analysis of attitudes that were virulently anti-Hillary, and mysteriously pro Trump. It hasn't really been all that long women anywhere were looked at askance, and suspected of "asking for it" if they dared report rape or domestic violence.
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Unfortunately, misogyny is alive and well in most great religions. Nice cover for men who want to obey God, Allah, whoever by dominating and denigrating women.
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In the case of Donald Trump, there appears to be a lot more under the surface to be revealed about his personal life. Now that the election is months in the past, with the Russian election interference scandal getting daily revelations, the media doesn't seem to have the energy to pursue the threads of the story. One might assume that most voters don't care about his decades long night life excursions, since the "grabbing" video came out before the election. This conclusion would be a mistake. Citizens might no longer demand the highest conduct from a president, having accepted a thrice married and, by his own admission, a woman chaser as president. That doesn't mean there are no limits.
We know that Trump loved to hang out at Studio 54 in the 1980s, the notorious cocaine fueled drug den where, as he himself wrote, he witnessed many acts of open sex on or neat the dance floor. This apparently did not bother him.
We know he was a friend, whom he described as a great guy, "lots of fun to be around", who was sentenced to prison for sexual encounters with underage girls, high school students. This same man, a member of the billionaires group in West Palm Beach, was told not to come back to Mar-a-Largo because of his apparent underage solicitation there, indicating full awareness of the man's activities.
These are known facts confirmed in the past by Trump himself. It appears that the full scope of the situation will not be revealed without some sort of formal investigation.
We know that Trump loved to hang out at Studio 54 in the 1980s, the notorious cocaine fueled drug den where, as he himself wrote, he witnessed many acts of open sex on or neat the dance floor. This apparently did not bother him.
We know he was a friend, whom he described as a great guy, "lots of fun to be around", who was sentenced to prison for sexual encounters with underage girls, high school students. This same man, a member of the billionaires group in West Palm Beach, was told not to come back to Mar-a-Largo because of his apparent underage solicitation there, indicating full awareness of the man's activities.
These are known facts confirmed in the past by Trump himself. It appears that the full scope of the situation will not be revealed without some sort of formal investigation.
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What? Trump declared April Sexual Assault Month? Oh, sorry, I meant---‘awareness’ month. Ok, we’re aware, now what?
Here's the context. Fox & Trump---a mind set of a narcissist/egotist--to dominate, victimize and humiliate to assert superiority. This is the attitude in common---they are assaulters also of the truth, with constant, provable lies.
They are assaulting our democracy and our rights. With the consent of millions of the governed. This is ugly stuff—takes fortitude even to talk about it.
The US pres has to pay $25 million to settle the lawsuit won by students his Trump University cheated, exploited and profited from. And women are suing Fox News sex and racial discrimination.
It’s a predatory mind set that is stunning to see in a US president. So to Trump, the Fox harassers/assaulters really “did nothing wrong.”
It’s no accident that ongoing sexual harassment is so blatant at Fox News. They push people around, respecting nothing but power and wealth. Same mindset of the Trump/ Gop political bullies now dominating our 3 branches.
They legitimize egotism and arrogance that contradicts democracy. Women, or minorities, immigrants, working people, voters---all are to be used, exploited.
And no problem admiring dictators, and investing in and colluding with Russia. All stems from the same motivation.
The protest marches of millions of women--and men--across the country shows the spirit of protest against this ugliness is alive and will continue.
Here's the context. Fox & Trump---a mind set of a narcissist/egotist--to dominate, victimize and humiliate to assert superiority. This is the attitude in common---they are assaulters also of the truth, with constant, provable lies.
They are assaulting our democracy and our rights. With the consent of millions of the governed. This is ugly stuff—takes fortitude even to talk about it.
The US pres has to pay $25 million to settle the lawsuit won by students his Trump University cheated, exploited and profited from. And women are suing Fox News sex and racial discrimination.
It’s a predatory mind set that is stunning to see in a US president. So to Trump, the Fox harassers/assaulters really “did nothing wrong.”
It’s no accident that ongoing sexual harassment is so blatant at Fox News. They push people around, respecting nothing but power and wealth. Same mindset of the Trump/ Gop political bullies now dominating our 3 branches.
They legitimize egotism and arrogance that contradicts democracy. Women, or minorities, immigrants, working people, voters---all are to be used, exploited.
And no problem admiring dictators, and investing in and colluding with Russia. All stems from the same motivation.
The protest marches of millions of women--and men--across the country shows the spirit of protest against this ugliness is alive and will continue.
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Not new, this open season on women, that males in power positions use that leverage to preserve a fantasy. It could be the high-school senior jock, overwhelming the freshman cheerleader, using his popularity as a sexual sledgehammer. Or the college orientation leader taking advantage of the naïve newcomer and the fraternity brother abusing the intoxicated female guest. College mentors needing intimacy to partner a graduate's professional growth becomes a cliché. Moving from Hollywood's casting couches to Fox News and the obligatory short skirts tells women that objectification sells. Somehow, many female voters believe attractive, uppity women are getting their just deserts. Only the money will halt the corporate complicity, and the slimy, no-spin zones.
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Bait 'n switch... so discouraging that advertisers are "fleeing" Bill O'Reilly's show but sneaking their money into to other shows at Fox. Thought perhaps the named advertisers really meant that they were against sexual harassment. Sigh...
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In my experience, during discussions about sexual harassment (not stalkers) when men are asked to imagine what it would be liked to be to be sexually harassed by a woman in the workplace, and I'm certainly not denying that it happens, they often seem to have the image of an attractive, lusty woman on the right side of 40. Myself and the women I know who have experienced sexual harassment or predation, particularly in the workplace, are more likely to picture amoral men like Ailes, Trump, or O'Reilly devoid of any seductive traits except their ability to make or break careers and not Brad Pitt.
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Susan asks: "what would it be like to be to be sexually harassed by a woman in the workplace? [A]nd I'm certainly not denying that it happens."
The editorial gave the example of Miki Agrawal, the co-founder of Thinx — a company that makes “period underwear.” “I just love the taboo space,” she told New York last year.
According to a complaint filed with the City of New York Commission on Human Rights by a former employee (and echoed in interviews with multiple current and former employees), those "taboo" things have included: the size and shape of her employees’ breasts, an employee’s nipple piercings, her own sexual exploits, her desire to experiment with polyamory, her interest in entering a sexual relationship with one of her employees, and the exact means by which she was brought to female ejaculation. Her alleged boundary-breaking in the workplace wasn’t just verbal. Agrawal also touched an employee’s breasts and asked her to expose them, routinely changed clothes in front of employees, and conducted meetings via video conference while in bed, apparently unclothed.
I would conclude that there are women with comparable employment power whose conduct toward their subject employees is not significantly different than that of Donald Trump, Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes.
And, you do not even mention the problem of men (or women) being falsely accused of sexual harassment. Is that, or is that not, a problem? When will there be a NYTimes editorial on that subject?
The editorial gave the example of Miki Agrawal, the co-founder of Thinx — a company that makes “period underwear.” “I just love the taboo space,” she told New York last year.
According to a complaint filed with the City of New York Commission on Human Rights by a former employee (and echoed in interviews with multiple current and former employees), those "taboo" things have included: the size and shape of her employees’ breasts, an employee’s nipple piercings, her own sexual exploits, her desire to experiment with polyamory, her interest in entering a sexual relationship with one of her employees, and the exact means by which she was brought to female ejaculation. Her alleged boundary-breaking in the workplace wasn’t just verbal. Agrawal also touched an employee’s breasts and asked her to expose them, routinely changed clothes in front of employees, and conducted meetings via video conference while in bed, apparently unclothed.
I would conclude that there are women with comparable employment power whose conduct toward their subject employees is not significantly different than that of Donald Trump, Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes.
And, you do not even mention the problem of men (or women) being falsely accused of sexual harassment. Is that, or is that not, a problem? When will there be a NYTimes editorial on that subject?
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No mention of Bill Clinton?
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The terrible treatment of women at far too many corporations will continue so long as women as a group fail to use the one power they have that connects directly and most forcefully to these corporations. Women control hundreds of Billions, maybe even several Trillion of purchasing power in the economy. Only when it is clear to corporations that tolerating the kind of behavior so prevalent at Fox "News", and which Trump is so clearly enamored of will result in massive loss of business - cost to 'the bottom line' - will corporations truly stop tolerating this kind of behavior. Keep up the pressure on Fox's O'Reilly advertisers, make it clear that advertising on Fox shows will result in lost business, and the changes will come. Nothing else will reach them, the 'boys' who run these corporations... for now.
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Then there is Ted Kennedy whose victim, Mary Jo Kopechne, had no redress. And, of course, there is Bill Clinton.
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Sexual harassment in the office is a two-way street. The harassment is true or it is not true. At my small company in New York City (22 employees), a female employee lodged a complaint (not true) against one of my male employees. The complaint had no merit. It took me eight years to get it dismissed. The N.Y. State penalty cost to me was zero $$. The legal and other costs to me were noticeable. No matter what I proved to the state, the state did not care about my company's story. It only cared about protecting the claimant. The state originally wanted $22,000 from us. I wouldn't settle for a dollar. Our lawyer, knowing we were not guilty, was furious with me, when I refused to settle for $8,000, which he negotiated.
Our female employee was a Brandeis graduate from a litigious family, which I had assumed put her up to trying to get a gift settlement for a baloney story.
i learned a lot about sexual harassment over the eight years. That was good. I know I did the wrong thing by taking a stand and fighting for justice. But I'm glad I made that decision.
Our female employee was a Brandeis graduate from a litigious family, which I had assumed put her up to trying to get a gift settlement for a baloney story.
i learned a lot about sexual harassment over the eight years. That was good. I know I did the wrong thing by taking a stand and fighting for justice. But I'm glad I made that decision.
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Three old, puffy and putty faced looking men.
Do they actually think a women would be interested?
Now if each or all threaten with employment they are each also criminal.
Do they actually think a women would be interested?
Now if each or all threaten with employment they are each also criminal.
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I am appalled by the behavior of Trump, O'Reilly and Ailes and, as a man, would never imagine engaging in any of the horrific practices, demeaning and harming women, as they have. But a majority of white women in this country voted for Trump when the alternative choice was a woman and about 45% of O'Reilly's audience is comprised of women. Since the harassment revelations about O'Reilly were revealed, his audience has increased. I stand in complete solidarity with my sisters who are fighting misogyny in this country, but why does it appear that nearly half of women really don't care about this issue?
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What is common between them? Their audience of "deplorables"! The more outrageous they behave, more of a certain class is attracted to them.
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They are vile, disgusting old men. My father was an officer an a gentleman. A WW2 decorated hero of the greatest generation. These 3 are simply weak, very ugly trolls. My late husband was as my dad, a gentleman/ beloved by his employees / both male and female.
The sad part of this story is that the "victims" failed to kick these men in the crotch on day one. We need to better teach our daughters.
The sad part of this story is that the "victims" failed to kick these men in the crotch on day one. We need to better teach our daughters.
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There are men who think that virility and masculinity are rated by the number of scores, the number of conquests, and the Don Juan ratings. Trump admits that is and has been his bona fides. Go back through the Howard Stern tapes. And then there are the O'Reilly's and the Ailes who use position to score.
They use and abuse position. A random case might be an aberration. But when you get to five or more and there are payoffs, the pattern is pretty clear. I don't know how to stop them, but the advertisers are the Achilles Heel. The stories of the women O'Reilly harassed are chilling. If he had ever done something like that to my wife----well that might not be pretty. And some of these women are married.
They use and abuse position. A random case might be an aberration. But when you get to five or more and there are payoffs, the pattern is pretty clear. I don't know how to stop them, but the advertisers are the Achilles Heel. The stories of the women O'Reilly harassed are chilling. If he had ever done something like that to my wife----well that might not be pretty. And some of these women are married.
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I liked what you said about until the last sentence. It doesn't matter whether a woman is married. Harassment is harassment no matter what the marital status of a woman is. A woman's body belongs to herself, not to anyone else, including her husband.
Written by an extremely devoted wife.
Written by an extremely devoted wife.
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Society won't get better if you feel the only women you should protect are those you're married or related to.
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The women of Fox knew they made it onto Fox air at least in part because they resembled Barbie Dolls. This all too eager self diminishment of their personal dignity alone represented a deep betrayal of their sisters. Yet from their perch atop Fox News they joyously piled on Hillary, the only human being on the planet who could have made life a little fairer for so many women and children in America and around the world. However awful the sexual harassment was that these Fox females suffered, it pales next to the damage they did through the misogynistic attitudes they daily modelled and parroted.
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More evidence of how pathetic our president and the people who feel he's competent for the job are. Astounding.
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Truly a sign of extreme insecurity and the kind of egotistical aggressiveness that was useful to them in becoming wealthy. All such men are despicable. One now leads the world. One (so far) is on the Supreme Court.
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How many of our grammar school teachers have considered whether they should tell their students that their President is generally believed to be a pathological liar?
Should those students be told that the President is reported nationally to have a history of suddenly grabbing attractive women by their crotches?
On the other hand, so to speak, do we not have a moral duty to advise attractive women at public assemblies to guardedly cross their crotches on the approach of the President?
If so, should they not at White House dinners follow that self-protective practice upon rising to sing our coveted national anthem?
Should those students be told that the President is reported nationally to have a history of suddenly grabbing attractive women by their crotches?
On the other hand, so to speak, do we not have a moral duty to advise attractive women at public assemblies to guardedly cross their crotches on the approach of the President?
If so, should they not at White House dinners follow that self-protective practice upon rising to sing our coveted national anthem?
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Mr. Reynolds, you think Trump is "generally believed to be a pathological liar?" If that is true, how can you explain how a pathological liar can soundly defeat Hillary Clinton in a presidential election, in which Trump won 85 percent of all U.S. counties, while Hillary Clinton won just 15 percent of all U.S. counties. Perhaps your girl Hillary Clinton actually holds the title of "biggest pathological liar" in the United States, making Donald Trump look like a choir boy. Hillary compared with the Donald is like comparing a wild laughing hyena to a golf club's house pussycat. It's no contest.
Trump's defense of his friend Bill was a brand new low during sexual assault against women month.
Perhaps he thought it's now the month to step UP the pace of the assaults?
Perhaps he thought it's now the month to step UP the pace of the assaults?
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The three stooges. Such august company!
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I suspect that one day Mr. O'Reilly will pick the wrong target and she will turn on him in a sudden act of self defense. With an obviously broken nose or black eye, Fox will say he is on vacation or whatever, and we'll never see him on television again.
But why they are willing to go right up to that edge? Why risk the scorn of their advertisers? Why risk what is left of their good name? Is there anyone at Fox who has the guts - and common sense - to stop this man right now?
But why they are willing to go right up to that edge? Why risk the scorn of their advertisers? Why risk what is left of their good name? Is there anyone at Fox who has the guts - and common sense - to stop this man right now?
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Sex ... and ... Power.
In the face of stories like these, my guess is that we will gnash our teeth, point self-righteous fingers and get all sorts of out-of-sorts at all those 'evil-doing' men.
Unfortunately, though, it seems that Freud and Jung got it right.
i.e. --With us mere humans, it's almost always about sex and power however much we like to believe it's about reason and empathy.
But at least we get to feel all self-righteous and good about ourselves as we point those fingers.
In the face of stories like these, my guess is that we will gnash our teeth, point self-righteous fingers and get all sorts of out-of-sorts at all those 'evil-doing' men.
Unfortunately, though, it seems that Freud and Jung got it right.
i.e. --With us mere humans, it's almost always about sex and power however much we like to believe it's about reason and empathy.
But at least we get to feel all self-righteous and good about ourselves as we point those fingers.
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Was anyone surprised that DJT would defend O'Reilly? They both are sexual predators.
Even though I know that sexual harassment and sexual assault are about dominance, we can make these men feel pathetic by constantly pounding them with "they are so ugly and uncharismatic that the only way they can get close to a woman is to assault them against their will."
Even though I know that sexual harassment and sexual assault are about dominance, we can make these men feel pathetic by constantly pounding them with "they are so ugly and uncharismatic that the only way they can get close to a woman is to assault them against their will."
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Adding insult to injury, the people who watch Fox and supported Trump are largely those who call themselves "values voters" and claim to want moral leadership.
Anyone seeking virtue and a respect for family values should walk away from Trump, Ailes and O'Reilly.
Anyone seeking virtue and a respect for family values should walk away from Trump, Ailes and O'Reilly.
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53% of caucasian women voted Trump and 46% of women overall voted Trump. Its scary if even 1% of women voted for a man who brags about sexually assaulting a fellow human. Perhaps more importantly than these ancient men resistant to change, the feminist movement needs to re-focus on those of their own gender and sex who condone, support and even vote for abuse.
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Women do not have the power. Without it, harassment is unbeatable on a mass scale by females short of using a weapon with impunity to beat off the dogs.
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"That his promise to create jobs ..... Mattered more". Precisely. That is why Trump was elected. He acknowledged that the loss of jobs was catastrophic for millions of Americans. If you don't have money for rent, or can't make a house payment much less a car payment, you could give a rip about just about anything. All else is secondary.
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But Trump lied about jobs as well. Those coal and heavy manufacturing jobs are NOT coming back to the Rust Belt. Solar, wind, and water power are ALL cheaper than coal, without the horrific side effects of deadly pollution of the land and the water table. Mrs. Clinton had a plan to re-train those workers in the new, up-and-coming solar, wind, and water power industries, but it was ignored.
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It's NOT really about sex, but about POWER and exploiting that power.
In that sense, these sexual predators are no different than pedophiles, and in a more ideal world they would be treated similarly - by imprisonment.
In that sense, these sexual predators are no different than pedophiles, and in a more ideal world they would be treated similarly - by imprisonment.
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Just so. Just as rape is about power and domination, rather than sexual satisfaction, sexual harassment is more about "look at me! I am rich and powerful! I can do anything I want, AND YOU CAN'T TOUCH ME!" Trump laid that out in simple sentences on that hideous tape.
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It is incomprehensible how women could vote for Trump after his remarks and allegations from accusers.Also what mainstream media outlet or normal company would put up with the continued behavior of Ailes and O'Reilly.
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As a 75-year-old white guy, one of the more reprehensible elements in the piece is that many women thought tightening the border was more important than keeping a sexual predator out of the white house; or that, apparently, some men felt that the women mentioned on the "Access Hollywood" tape were stand ins for other women who should be getting their comeuppance. What does this say about the overall coarseness of society and the bad choices both men and women make?
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There is a difference between Horn Dog Donnie and Ailes and O'Randy:
Ailes and the Randy One SETTLE with their victims.
Horn Dog Don.....he sues them for slander!!!! He NEVER settles.
Ailes and the Randy One SETTLE with their victims.
Horn Dog Don.....he sues them for slander!!!! He NEVER settles.
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Seriously, so many obvious points:
Advertisers fleeing O'Reilly should flee Fox. Period.
Females should stop watching Fox.
EVERYONE should by now by understand that treating anyone (minority, female, transgender, gay, lesbian, whatever is different "than you") in a way that one would not like to be treated, is abominable.
Don't ever forget most of the offenders call themselves christians.
Hypocrisy is the law of the land.
Advertisers fleeing O'Reilly should flee Fox. Period.
Females should stop watching Fox.
EVERYONE should by now by understand that treating anyone (minority, female, transgender, gay, lesbian, whatever is different "than you") in a way that one would not like to be treated, is abominable.
Don't ever forget most of the offenders call themselves christians.
Hypocrisy is the law of the land.
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Apparently Ms. Chira forgot the symmetry of President Clinton being disbarred and fined for lying about having had sex in the Oval Office with a young intern. Oh, but then again - that wouldn't be quite symmetry, would it?
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I am still shaking my head over how a majority of White women could have voted for Trump over Hillary Clinton. After hearing Trump's boasts on tape and listening to normal women, who were just waiting for a car or had upgraded to first class, describe how they were sexually assaulted by him, how could these women voters possibly think Trump deserved their vote? A far darker thought occurs to me that most of these women voters hate feminism and feel "unaccompanied" "attractive" and/or "empowered" women deserve to be sexually harassed and put in their rightful subservient place.
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I understand how many white women go for the sexism because I was raised that way and have since converted the feminist side. White women are taught this system from infancy --studies show that tears from the same child are interpreted differently based on if they are in pink or blue clothing. Girls get sadness and boy get anger and in patriarchy, girls are not allowed to be angry and boys are not allowed to be sad but they are certainly allowed the opposite...in fact, encouraged.
These women grow up and do not know that there is another way. They think the system they are living in is the only possibility. Really, they cannot (though I was able to along with many others) imagine a democratic way where they are an equal. Equality threatens their idea of how the world works.
Sad
and I'm angry about it!!!
These women grow up and do not know that there is another way. They think the system they are living in is the only possibility. Really, they cannot (though I was able to along with many others) imagine a democratic way where they are an equal. Equality threatens their idea of how the world works.
Sad
and I'm angry about it!!!
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ugh....typos! second line should read "converted TO the feminist side."
Greed and vulgarity.
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The main thing that O'Reilly and Trump have built their reputations on is a disdain for traditional standards of right and wrong. Do any of O'Reilly's fans care if he accosts women or girls -- as long as the targets of his abuse aren't their own daughters? (Or mothers?)
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Where does one start with the commonalities.
Physically unattractive reprobates, sexual predators with a hatred for women, and old white men with too much money and absolutely no sense of shame or in possession of a conscience.
These men feel superior and above civil norms and standards, and the law. They feel they are always right and all others are inferior.
Bottom line, these men are useless, over the hill, soon to be has beens, with no redeeming qualities what so ever
Physically unattractive reprobates, sexual predators with a hatred for women, and old white men with too much money and absolutely no sense of shame or in possession of a conscience.
These men feel superior and above civil norms and standards, and the law. They feel they are always right and all others are inferior.
Bottom line, these men are useless, over the hill, soon to be has beens, with no redeeming qualities what so ever
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soon to be has-beens, but not soon enough
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Yeah, but they are still rich and getting pretty much whatever money can buy. They should be a jails where they could get a taste of if themselves.
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Apparently, we men are having a 'hard time' controlling our sexual impulses...by harassing women in the workplace...and elsewhere. Ugly men, as long as they have power and money, feel entitled to abuse women, force them into submission, by suggesting losing their job if not compliant. This is shameful of course, but what is galling is the impunity these cowards (bullies) are able to command. These sexual predators, with no exceptions, ought to be fired, so justice can prevail. Ailes is gone, and so should O'Reilly and the predator-in-chief Trump.
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Bill Clinton. I forgot, it's okay to attack the accuser when the defendant is someone you like so it doesn't count.
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What about what Bill Clinton, JFK, Lyndon Johnson, Ted Kennedy, John Edwards have in common?
What about them?
What about them?
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So what's new? Just like Bill Clinton, JFK, RFK, Lyndon Johnson, Ted Kennedy.....all these men are hyper powerful and hyper sexed.
The only difference is that the NYT decides to go after only a select few....and they are all conservative.
The only difference is that the NYT decides to go after only a select few....and they are all conservative.
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Fox: the pimp for old, unattractive white men. Involuntarily for the women, but what's a few millions in legal settlements. Got to keep the boys happy, right???
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They should all be locked up
Throw away the keys
And have legal restraining orders not allowing them. Within 500 of any woman anytime
They are all
Pigs
Throw away the keys
And have legal restraining orders not allowing them. Within 500 of any woman anytime
They are all
Pigs
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I read that O'Reilly's ratings have shot up 15% to all-time highs, and you write that the advertisers who have pulled out of his show are still buying advertising on Fox News, just on other programs. I watched the advertising on his show and it is geared to older folks like my mom, who never misses his show and only watches Fox News for cable news. And seniors love news. The President defends him. I even know liberals who watch O'Reilly. So, what is the downside for him? Fox News watchers aren't going to demand he leave. I wonder if the women David Letterman fooled around with at work were into the old-dude scene? I doubt it.
And now we have to deal with a Groper-in-Chief. But it wasn't much better when Jack Kennedy was president, and many alive now recall Bill Clinton's roving eye and hands. Seems like Americans can't get enough of sex in the White House if it's their party the guy represents. Makes them feel manly and womanly, I guess. But if it's someone from the other party, that's very bad! Remember Sen. Gary Hart had to quit his campaign for president when it was revealed that he was having an extramarital affair? And Sen. John Edwards? But when the Donald Groper was campaigning, it was okay, because as Donald told Billy Bush, women really like to be groped by powerful men. And Republican women agreed.
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Consensual sex is not a problem.
John Edwards is a dog because his wife was dying of cancer and he had affairs while she was sick and dying.
John Edwards is a dog because his wife was dying of cancer and he had affairs while she was sick and dying.
Yup. Disgusting is available on the entire political spectrum. But here is the difference. Clinton was impeached for lying about it. Hart was eliminated as a leading presidential contender by public disdain for an affair that was never fully proven. Apparently the public doesn't have the same moral fiber now.
Trump admits he is a predator and we make him leader of the free world. It says more about the lack of progress for women (and all of us) than the pigs who gain our attention. The pigs will always be around. It's what we do with them that counts.
Trump admits he is a predator and we make him leader of the free world. It says more about the lack of progress for women (and all of us) than the pigs who gain our attention. The pigs will always be around. It's what we do with them that counts.
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The difference is that grown women participated willingly. What is happening at Fox is no such thing.
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When I read that Trump declared April "Sexual Awareness Month" I just assumed it was The Lord of the Lies' idea of an April Fools' Day joke.
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You forgot to mention Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, and JFK.
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How odd. No mention of Bill Clinton and his aider and abbetor, Hillary. They're the experts at abusing women and intimidating them if they speak out.
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You forgot Bill Clinton.
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If humiliated at work, socially, etc. I find it best to move on, suck it up and get on with my life. Unfortunately we have a genre of citizens who live with the compulsion to get even when somebody steps ever so lightly on their toes.
What is it with all of this criticism of O'Reilly? I have read nothing I would consider illegal! Since when can any employee or news media redefine the legality of whatever it is that O'Reilly did. Seems to me that it smacks of politics more than civility.
What is it with all of this criticism of O'Reilly? I have read nothing I would consider illegal! Since when can any employee or news media redefine the legality of whatever it is that O'Reilly did. Seems to me that it smacks of politics more than civility.
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Sexual harassment of employees is illegal.
Does that clear it up for you?
Does that clear it up for you?
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As a male high school football player (translate: “pig”) in the 70s, we always bragged in the locker room about our (mostly fictional) sex lives...but all the participants in our fantasies were willing. I never encountered anyone who bragged about assault.
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What do Trump, O'Reilly, and Ailes have in common?
They're all over-privileged, old White men with power, who are used to getting their way.
Next.
They're all over-privileged, old White men with power, who are used to getting their way.
Next.
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What are Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Eliot Spitzer if not "White and Over-privileged? Oh, their Democrats so no mention here for them!
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My youngest daughter isn't even 10 and I've already started talking to her about why I never take a parking space In the remote part of a lot or next to a van, or why I crossed the street from a man who looked a little too long and creepily at either one of us and that nobody is allowed to touch her ever without her permission. This is the culture of womanhood in America. When age appropriate the conversation will incorporate more about the potential danger of boys she knows and those she doesn't. And, of course, the dance we women do from the time we enter the workplace to make sure our bodies and careers are safe on the job. Laughingl pleasingly at jokes that aren't funny, smiling in order to avoid having to outright reject a colleagues advances, avoiding supply rooms and elevators with "that guy" and on and on until you become a women of a certain age and are either ignored, dismissed or demeaned. I thought got we were moving in the right direction as a society untl last summer when the sexist rhetoric from the Bernie bros on the left and the "trump the b-word" crowd in the right made me realize the hate and resentment toward liberated, independent women in this country. I fear for my daughters well being.
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Get her into a karate class. No amount of precaution is so effective as a ferocious physical retaliation.
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You sure had me up until you wrote "the sexist rhetoric from the Bernie bros". Such nonsense. I am a Bernie "sis" and haven't a clue what you're talking about. Bernie supporters did not favor Hillary but I doubt it was because she was female, while (on the other hand) many supporters of Hillary seemed to only favor her because she WAS female. Oh dear - who's the sexist here? As a Sander's supporter I was well aware of the nastiness from Hillary's quarter directed at all things 'Bernie', and can only assume that you believe the only proper direction and correct direction would come from Hillary. How myopic of you! What we do know is that HRC lost. We don't know that Bernie would have lost, do we?
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Dana, I should like to hear a few examples of "the sexist rhetoric from the Bernie bros on the left."
And, I note that you make no mention of any sexist rhetoric from Bernie Sanders himself. He was the one running for President of the United States.
Did you ever make any public critical comments about the political misconduct of Democratic National Committee chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz? I don't recall you making any such comments in any of your many comment postings to related New York Times stories, Op-Ed's, and Editorials.
But Hillary Clinton thanked her "longtime friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz after the Florida congresswoman's decision to step down as chair of the Democratic National Committee. Clinton said that Wasserman Schultz would serve as honorary chair of her campaign's 50-state program to help elect Democrats around the country.
I think that Hillary Clinton's generosity is what might be referred to by honest people as "rewarding bad behavior." I agree partially with the statement you made in your comment today: "I thought we were moving in the right direction as a society until last summer . . ." when the contemptible political misconduct of Democratic National Committee chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz was disclosed to the public.
And, I note that you make no mention of any sexist rhetoric from Bernie Sanders himself. He was the one running for President of the United States.
Did you ever make any public critical comments about the political misconduct of Democratic National Committee chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz? I don't recall you making any such comments in any of your many comment postings to related New York Times stories, Op-Ed's, and Editorials.
But Hillary Clinton thanked her "longtime friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz after the Florida congresswoman's decision to step down as chair of the Democratic National Committee. Clinton said that Wasserman Schultz would serve as honorary chair of her campaign's 50-state program to help elect Democrats around the country.
I think that Hillary Clinton's generosity is what might be referred to by honest people as "rewarding bad behavior." I agree partially with the statement you made in your comment today: "I thought we were moving in the right direction as a society until last summer . . ." when the contemptible political misconduct of Democratic National Committee chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz was disclosed to the public.
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Unfortunate that our culture is so anti-woman's rights. A culture of harassment, lack of good sex education, denial of basic healthcare and birth control, lack of maternity leave, childcare and worst of all pervasive and entrenched rape in our nation and failure of our legal system with regards to prosecuting rape. It's on we men in America, this is our failure, our disgrace, and our responsibility to correct.
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If you had been of draft age during the Vietnam War, or for that matter during the 1st and 2nd World Wars, you would not have been so pleased that women did not share the rights and responsibilities of being butchered in American wars. The final death count for Vietnam was 50,000 men, 8 women. This does not include the hundreds of thousands of men who made it back to the states nominally alive, but whose physical and mental injuries left them out on the streets.
Men are also four times more likely to commit suicide than women and, within the group of men, the privileged white males are twice as likely to commit suicide as African Americans and Hispanics. Men are also almost twice as likely to suffer from alcohol dependence than women.
Perhaps you should just be grateful that your own male life has proceeded with such tranquility and not draw conclusions about others.
Men are also four times more likely to commit suicide than women and, within the group of men, the privileged white males are twice as likely to commit suicide as African Americans and Hispanics. Men are also almost twice as likely to suffer from alcohol dependence than women.
Perhaps you should just be grateful that your own male life has proceeded with such tranquility and not draw conclusions about others.
They share more than just an affliction for sexual assault. They have also all
1. Implicitly encouraged White Supremacist groups.
2. Provided baseless credence to the birther theory against then President Obama
3. Implicitly accused African American groups of being single handedly responsible for inner city crime
4. Tried to whip up hatred against Muslims
As the saying goes - birds of the same feather flock together.
1. Implicitly encouraged White Supremacist groups.
2. Provided baseless credence to the birther theory against then President Obama
3. Implicitly accused African American groups of being single handedly responsible for inner city crime
4. Tried to whip up hatred against Muslims
As the saying goes - birds of the same feather flock together.
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an embarrasssingly weak argument, susan chira, as you might as well have included the following democrats in your list of accused sexual harassers:
bill clinton
anthony weiner
antonio villaraigosa
david patterson
john edwards
kwame kilpatrick
david wu
mark dann
paul j. morrison
gary condit
roosevelt dobbins
tim mahoney ... the list goes on and on!
just quoting the following source:
http://www.ranker.com/list/democrat-sex-scandals/web-infoguy
really, i expect better from a nytimes reporter!
eliot spitzer
bill clinton
anthony weiner
antonio villaraigosa
david patterson
john edwards
kwame kilpatrick
david wu
mark dann
paul j. morrison
gary condit
roosevelt dobbins
tim mahoney ... the list goes on and on!
just quoting the following source:
http://www.ranker.com/list/democrat-sex-scandals/web-infoguy
really, i expect better from a nytimes reporter!
eliot spitzer
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@stuart: Oh, don't tempt me: if I started to make a list of GOP sexual harassers, that list would quickly have far more men on it than the Democrats you mention. It is true for the GOP: the list goes on and on! But what's worse is that the GOP hates women & wants to actively and brutally deny women their rights at every turn. That is not true of Democrats.
It's YOUR argument, Stuart, is the embarrassingly weak argument. And if you can't distinguish why, that makes your argument even weaker.
It's YOUR argument, Stuart, is the embarrassingly weak argument. And if you can't distinguish why, that makes your argument even weaker.
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All harassers, hanging together to defend each other!
Men who have grown up do not engage in such behavior. None of these three have grown into adulthood.
Men who have grown up do not engage in such behavior. None of these three have grown into adulthood.
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Groupers and Perverts are as they does
- Forrest Gump
- Forrest Gump
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Just watch the bubble pals of this triumvirate of alleged sexual predators all frantically jumping up and down blathering about Bill Clinton. As if his sins - bad, yes, but much milder - somehow excuse their wretched behavior.
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Interesting that you omit Bill Clinton. Typical of the relentless liberal bias of The Times.
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No mention of Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, Teddy Kennedey or any Democrat?
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Ms. Chira forgot to include Bill Clinton on her list.
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They learned the art of the grab long ago.
As politely as possible: I personally wouldn't be in a room with ANY of them. Old white men with an extreme case of male privilege and entitlement. Let's just say, if they were poor, they would not be able to get "dates ". EVER.
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You might ad Jerry Sandusky to this list...
O'Reilly and the rest of this crew prey on more "socially acceptable" targets, but the action is the same -- using asymmetric power to coerce sexual submission.
O'Reilly and the rest of this crew prey on more "socially acceptable" targets, but the action is the same -- using asymmetric power to coerce sexual submission.
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I suppose we should thank the three amigos here for giving April Sexual Assault Awareness Month such a prominent stage this year. Grab it - awareness! - while you can.
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Trump, O'Reilly and Ailes are pigs. Lowlives who use their positions and wealth to take advantage of women. Prison is too good for them.
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What do the three of them have in common? Boundless contempt for humanity.
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Susan Chira asks a question and imedately it raises another question. Why is a far more prominent name missing from the list of harassers of women kind?
To my knowledge no one has accused Arles, or O'Reilly of rape and Trump has not been accused credibility of Rape.
On the other hand the missing name WJC has been accused a number of times of forcible sexual assault by a number of different women.
The difference is Bill Clinton is a Democrat and gets a pass here at the NYT!
To my knowledge no one has accused Arles, or O'Reilly of rape and Trump has not been accused credibility of Rape.
On the other hand the missing name WJC has been accused a number of times of forcible sexual assault by a number of different women.
The difference is Bill Clinton is a Democrat and gets a pass here at the NYT!
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They're all WINNERS!
Birds of a feather flock together.
Interesting that Susan didn’t include Bill Clinton in that group of alleged predators. After all, the Billster’s perversions were a lot more creative and bent than anything alleged of O’Reilly, Ailes and Trump which, if the accusations are true, are pretty ordinary. But a cigar?
It’s clear that men who have the energy to seize success of one sort or another seem to be, disproportionally, susceptible to committing sexual abuse of one sort or another – or at least more susceptible to being charged with it. Indeed, if there’s been an incident of sexual predation, local police should take a very serious look at the most distinguished man in the general neighborhood. Omaha police might bypass Warren Buffet, though, on account of age and sense of humor.
I don’t mean to make light of the issue of sexual abuse, which is a deadly serious one; but Susan’s ideologically self-interested grouping of O’Reilly, Ailes and Trump without even mentioning Bill Clinton put me a bit off my quoits game.
It’s clear that men who have the energy to seize success of one sort or another seem to be, disproportionally, susceptible to committing sexual abuse of one sort or another – or at least more susceptible to being charged with it. Indeed, if there’s been an incident of sexual predation, local police should take a very serious look at the most distinguished man in the general neighborhood. Omaha police might bypass Warren Buffet, though, on account of age and sense of humor.
I don’t mean to make light of the issue of sexual abuse, which is a deadly serious one; but Susan’s ideologically self-interested grouping of O’Reilly, Ailes and Trump without even mentioning Bill Clinton put me a bit off my quoits game.
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As I recollect, Bill Clinton's sexual escapade with Monica Lewinsky was a consensual affair between adults. Ms. Lewinsky said as much. It did not involve groping an unwilling victim or demanding sexual favors in return for employment. There's a big difference, Mr. Luettgen--one that you may have overlooked in your haste to defend Republicans and discredit Democrats. However, now that I've explained it, you can go back to enjoying your quoits game.
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And the cigar ... that was consensual. Like it or not, Monica pursued Bill.
C'mon, Rich. Be a little bit honest. Just a little.
C'mon, Rich. Be a little bit honest. Just a little.
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Bill Clinton's accusers had their day in power.
An Bill is no longer relevant. No more deflecting.
An Bill is no longer relevant. No more deflecting.
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O'Reilly, Trump and Ailes
Each one at Manhood fails,
Helpless women assails.
A loathsome trio they
Important men by day,
With hands that pry and prey.
Heroes to a gross base
Who mock satin and lace
Their shame Time won't displace.
Each one at Manhood fails,
Helpless women assails.
A loathsome trio they
Important men by day,
With hands that pry and prey.
Heroes to a gross base
Who mock satin and lace
Their shame Time won't displace.
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Larry,
We had a President named Clinton
Who was not very subtle about hinten.
When he saw one he liked
He would not take a hike
So "harassment" I fear is overlooked here.
Though "Politics" shine like a cheap neon sign.
And this piece might seem true
If Bill too got his due!
We had a President named Clinton
Who was not very subtle about hinten.
When he saw one he liked
He would not take a hike
So "harassment" I fear is overlooked here.
Though "Politics" shine like a cheap neon sign.
And this piece might seem true
If Bill too got his due!
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Now let's be fair,
There's one who's not there,
The name is Clinton, but not the one with the hair
There's one who's not there,
The name is Clinton, but not the one with the hair
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Roses are red
Violets are blue
Didn't old Slick Willy
Act like this too?
Violets are blue
Didn't old Slick Willy
Act like this too?
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Rapacious - excessively grasping or covetous; living on prey; excessive and utterly selfish acquisitiveness or avarice
Republican - Reverse Robin Hood tax-dodging professional who rabble-rouses religious hypocrites and reactionary rednecks for political power
Reprobate - a selfish, depraved, disreputable person without moral scruples
Doesn't America deserve the finest Rapacious Republican Reprobates in the land to lead it over a cliff of fake news and fake leadership into a real national crater ?
Come join the Republican revolution and enjoy the golden age of right-wing moral bankruptcy ---- "have you groped someone today ?"
Nice people.
Republican - Reverse Robin Hood tax-dodging professional who rabble-rouses religious hypocrites and reactionary rednecks for political power
Reprobate - a selfish, depraved, disreputable person without moral scruples
Doesn't America deserve the finest Rapacious Republican Reprobates in the land to lead it over a cliff of fake news and fake leadership into a real national crater ?
Come join the Republican revolution and enjoy the golden age of right-wing moral bankruptcy ---- "have you groped someone today ?"
Nice people.
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Remind me: Was Bill Clinton a Republican?
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S,
Two words, Bill Clinton!
One word, Hypocrites!
Two words, Bill Clinton!
One word, Hypocrites!
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I love your comments and look for them. Thanx, kept it up.
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I've noticed that often men who are physically unattractive, such as Trump, Ailes, and O'Reilly, put a lot of emphasis on the appearance of women. Some people claim it's only "locker room talk" or that "all men talk that way." More than likely, it's insecure men who talk and act that way. They have to grope, harass, and make suggestive remarks to make themselves feel superior, to feel attractive. Deep down, despite their financial success, Trump and Ailes and O'Reilly have a desperate need for attention, even if they have to force themselves on somebody to get it.
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Linda,
An interesting theory, but how does it explain Bill Clinton. He "irresistible" to women, just ask him and the only credibly accused multiple rapist in the bunch!
An interesting theory, but how does it explain Bill Clinton. He "irresistible" to women, just ask him and the only credibly accused multiple rapist in the bunch!
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The only way these guys are having sex us by griping or paying for it
Why would any woman touch such disgusting gross creatures?
Why would any woman touch such disgusting gross creatures?
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As a number of psychiatrists have noted, the qualities required in a leader of the 'free world' should not include narcissism, insecurity, misogynism. Unfortunately, viewers of media outlets such as Fox tend to give these characters a pass thus legitimizing their behavior.
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Ailes Have in Common?"
Is this a trick question?