NYT generally has quality articles. During the primaries if you were a Sanders supporter that was not true. They were as heavily biased towards HRC as the DNC was. They were blind. This article is somewhere in between. Charles Homans seems to understand there was a split in the party during the primaries, but doesn't seem to grasp the gravity of it. Democrats has moved forward crying "unity," while the progressives look on them with skeptical eyes.
Up until the 2016 primaries I considered myself a Democrat. I no longer do. I have lost all faith in the party, and it will not be regained simply by opposing a madman who any sane person should oppose. Especially considering the entire party is NOT opposing him. I recently contacted my senator, Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) for voting to confirm Rick Perry.
The point of all of this is that when Charles Homans quoted that some members of the Democratic Party would rather go down with the Titanic, so long as they have first-class seats--I would absolutely agree with that characterization. The NYT fails to understand that they will be interviewing them all the way down, failing to report that there are still life rafts available.
Up until the 2016 primaries I considered myself a Democrat. I no longer do. I have lost all faith in the party, and it will not be regained simply by opposing a madman who any sane person should oppose. Especially considering the entire party is NOT opposing him. I recently contacted my senator, Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) for voting to confirm Rick Perry.
The point of all of this is that when Charles Homans quoted that some members of the Democratic Party would rather go down with the Titanic, so long as they have first-class seats--I would absolutely agree with that characterization. The NYT fails to understand that they will be interviewing them all the way down, failing to report that there are still life rafts available.
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The Dems becoming the new Party of "No!" Simply will not cut it.
What can the divided and inept Democrats possibly do to effect meaningful change? During the Obama years they could not communicate the fact that, according to polls, the majority of Americans favor many progressive programs nor the extent to which such programs were benefiting a wide range of citizens.
Apparently they could not even get Kentuckians to understand that Kynect was in fact their state's version of the despised Obamacare.
If Mr. Trump is driven from office he will be replaced by the equally authoritarian Mr. Pence. Then the less evidently dictatorial Mr. Ryan will be enabled to more effectively impose his pro-plutocratic agenda on the people and to further weaken the people's once democratic institutions.
Republican ideology is little more than the justification of capitalist greed and plutocratic authoritarianism. Kleptocracy will remain on the political horizon even if Mr. Trump falls.
Trump (or Pence), Ryan and the regressive GOP will assure the further ascent of plutocrats and provide the rest of us with the hand baskets for our descent to the nether regions.
If Pence replaces Trump, our descent will not be halted, but instead most efficiently accelerated.
Nothing short of a repeat of 2008's Great Recession will reveal who the Republican politicians actually serve and the danger they pose for the dwindling middle-class.
Ah, grave new world: Non-Freedom, Inequality, and Koch-Brotherhood.
What can the divided and inept Democrats possibly do to effect meaningful change? During the Obama years they could not communicate the fact that, according to polls, the majority of Americans favor many progressive programs nor the extent to which such programs were benefiting a wide range of citizens.
Apparently they could not even get Kentuckians to understand that Kynect was in fact their state's version of the despised Obamacare.
If Mr. Trump is driven from office he will be replaced by the equally authoritarian Mr. Pence. Then the less evidently dictatorial Mr. Ryan will be enabled to more effectively impose his pro-plutocratic agenda on the people and to further weaken the people's once democratic institutions.
Republican ideology is little more than the justification of capitalist greed and plutocratic authoritarianism. Kleptocracy will remain on the political horizon even if Mr. Trump falls.
Trump (or Pence), Ryan and the regressive GOP will assure the further ascent of plutocrats and provide the rest of us with the hand baskets for our descent to the nether regions.
If Pence replaces Trump, our descent will not be halted, but instead most efficiently accelerated.
Nothing short of a repeat of 2008's Great Recession will reveal who the Republican politicians actually serve and the danger they pose for the dwindling middle-class.
Ah, grave new world: Non-Freedom, Inequality, and Koch-Brotherhood.
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A house divided falls.Only question is,when will we crash.
The author raises the question whether the Democratic Party needs to move rightish, leftish or neither; then also quotes Sen. Warren to the effect that the party needs to "run on our values" which are in line with the values of most of America. I submit that she is 100% correct on this, and that it neatly answers the question of whether the party goes left or right. The shared liberal/progressive values, held and espoused both by the people and the party, have always been two steps left of where the party actually lived politically. The party needs to simply walk the talk, and that will be to the left of where the walking has been up to now.
The huge, YUGE, example of this dynamic was the defeat of Bernie Sanders in the primary. Too many Democrats (in the streets and in congress) were saying something like "of course I agree with Bernie in principle, but we've got to be practical/he can't win" (translation "we need to maintain our electoral alliance with the center right") and so I'm voting for Hillary. Of course, besides being a craven opportunistic self-serving strategy, it didn't even work this time.
The party of the left, far more so than the party of the right, must have sincerity, ideological discipline, the courage to honestly support the values it espouses. In a day such as this when the majority of public opinion is in agreement with those progressive values, that is a strategic no-brainer as well as a moral imperative.
The huge, YUGE, example of this dynamic was the defeat of Bernie Sanders in the primary. Too many Democrats (in the streets and in congress) were saying something like "of course I agree with Bernie in principle, but we've got to be practical/he can't win" (translation "we need to maintain our electoral alliance with the center right") and so I'm voting for Hillary. Of course, besides being a craven opportunistic self-serving strategy, it didn't even work this time.
The party of the left, far more so than the party of the right, must have sincerity, ideological discipline, the courage to honestly support the values it espouses. In a day such as this when the majority of public opinion is in agreement with those progressive values, that is a strategic no-brainer as well as a moral imperative.
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Did you ever nail it! Thanks.
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There's a difference between saying No to anything that's opposed to your own agenda and saying No because you don't have an agenda.
The Democrats are saying No to the harmful nonsense that Trump and Ryan are pitching. But the Republicans remain the party of No, since they have no clue how to say yes to any proposal that will address a real problem.
The Democrats are saying No to the harmful nonsense that Trump and Ryan are pitching. But the Republicans remain the party of No, since they have no clue how to say yes to any proposal that will address a real problem.
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For Schumer to say no to this crowd, how difficult could that possibly be for him? Consenting to any of Trump's nominee's was shameful.
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"We believe that the next four years depend on citizens across the country standing indivisible against the Trump Agenda." This is the trouble with the so-called new Democrats. They think that if they're sufficiently anti-Trump, they can win back their base. If only the Democrats could get over Trump and start to work on programs and policies that respond to the needs of all Americans, despite the fact that some of these are shared by Trump, they might broaden their appeal. Until the Democrats get rid of Big Money and the current Democratic establishment (including younger or newer politicians who have already hitched their wagons to the moneyed political establishment, such as Elizabeth Warren and Corey Booker and Kristen Gillebrand), they can offer us nothing new.
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Scalia's Citizens United Decision gave corporations "personhood"; that opened the door for those "persons" to contribute unlimited amounts of cash to candidates of choice. Trump did not finance his own campaign; check out the Mercers and others. Until the U.S. gets rid of privately financed campaigns and goes with a publicly financed campaign for the Presidency we will continue to elected corporate Presidents. Obama was the last President who actually received millions in small donations, a rare thing. Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker and Gillebrand might not be perfect; however, they are better than most Republicans now in Congress, exception being Lindsey Graham and a few others. We start at the local level, elect legislators and governors who will not gerrymander Districts to guarantee safe seats for either Party. Open elections, diverse voting populations in each District. We used to have that; we need to go back there.
My wish is to have the parties debate, haggle and finally come up with a compromise.
But Conservatives do not respect compromisers, and they don't intend to be one.
They respect taking a stand.
So that leaves liberals having to go against type, not wallow in the gray areas of ideologies and compromises---they have to draw a line in the sand. Sanders and Warren are good role models.
But the good news is that all that gray-area compromising is exhausting, and the drawing the line in the sand is much easier. Liberals can dig their heels in on their values, their policies and their visions for this country. But they do need to put aside their particular angles for now and everyone go all-in on the Basics: equality for all, economic fairness and civil liberty.
But Conservatives do not respect compromisers, and they don't intend to be one.
They respect taking a stand.
So that leaves liberals having to go against type, not wallow in the gray areas of ideologies and compromises---they have to draw a line in the sand. Sanders and Warren are good role models.
But the good news is that all that gray-area compromising is exhausting, and the drawing the line in the sand is much easier. Liberals can dig their heels in on their values, their policies and their visions for this country. But they do need to put aside their particular angles for now and everyone go all-in on the Basics: equality for all, economic fairness and civil liberty.
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What is good for the gander is good for the goose. We are not all no but saying no to and economic disaster is a damn good idea. Saying no doesn't we want nothing done but that we want things done properly and not hurting others by saying yes. No I don't want Hillary back I want Sanders and Warren going forward to bring us a better USA. One disaster at a time please.
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When it was Obama's administration it was the Republicans fault for saying no, now that it's a Republican administration the Democrats are saying that it's still the Republican's fault for the Democrats saying no, what hypocrisy. Pick a side and stop blaming everyone but yourselves for YOUR actions. They are your actions own them! Disgustingly pitiful.
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There is one thing we need to say "yes" to - impeachment.
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So enjoy listening to the lefties call for impeachment. Have you examined Mike Pence's philosophy? He is a unreconstructed right-winger without a hint of populism...sort of Trump without the compassion. Be careful what you wish for...
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Past time for big change in the Democratic Party power structure. Baby boomers need to step aside, their same old same old is not working. Signed, a baby boomer.
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Sadly, there's nothing in the story to justify the headline that the Democratic Party has "transformed." Basically it just describes a few party leaders (not all) coming around (cautiously, hesitantly) to acknowledge (but not necessarily embrace) the massive grass-roots energy out there that is begging the party to actually *stand for something.*
"There go my people; I must find out where they are going so I can lead them" used to be an old joke about feckless political leadership. But the Dems can't seem to manage to be even *that* much on the ball.
Countless Americans feel abandoned by the both the democratic process and the Democratic Party. On issue after issue, most Americans are measurably to the left of *both* major parties. Yet the far right has the representation it voted for (in spades), while the left has to beg Democratic politicians to recognize that they're leaving millions of potential votes on the table.
Dems need to take a serious stand for the values and principles the party used to take for granted. It's the only way they'll emerge from the political desert and start winning again. As a fringe benefit, it's actually the Right Think To Do.
"There go my people; I must find out where they are going so I can lead them" used to be an old joke about feckless political leadership. But the Dems can't seem to manage to be even *that* much on the ball.
Countless Americans feel abandoned by the both the democratic process and the Democratic Party. On issue after issue, most Americans are measurably to the left of *both* major parties. Yet the far right has the representation it voted for (in spades), while the left has to beg Democratic politicians to recognize that they're leaving millions of potential votes on the table.
Dems need to take a serious stand for the values and principles the party used to take for granted. It's the only way they'll emerge from the political desert and start winning again. As a fringe benefit, it's actually the Right Think To Do.
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In bone-chilling fashion the article illustrates why the Democrats are their own worst enemy. They are a deer in the headlights of the Trump 14 wheeler bearing down on them at warp speed, yet their instinct is to move at “cautious” speed. Elizabeth Warren remarks about the 2016 election that “people were so desperate for economic change.” Trump was chanting “change!” Bernie was chanting “change!” But the Democratic Party was chanting “incrementalism!” with Hillary Clinton. With Chuck Shumer as de facto “leader of the resistance” the country is in for a long, cold conservative dystopia. As Sanders notes too many Democratic leaders and insiders are traveling first class on the Titanic. Do I trust these people after their betrayal of progressives in the election? Do I want to put my life in their hands? Will new candidates running under the Democratic banner be immune to the party’s DNA of inertia, to its Wall Street money, its organization, and its platform of stasis? I think it’s time for true progressives to look outside the party for a different means of transportation other than a stubborn, stupid, slow-moving mule.
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The United States has never supported a third Party. Europe has many Parties; we don't. We have no tradition of multiple Parties; those which pop up, as in the Green Party, siphon votes off from a major Party. Jill Stein did a lot of damage to Democratic candidates; she was a marginal candidate and should have been ignored.
How quickly they forget! Obama chanted CHANGE for 8 years and there was NO change. No change. The people were tired of politics as usual!
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Obama's rhetoric was Hope and Change but his actions were More of the Same: tax cuts for the rich, a jury-rigged health plan instead of a universal single-payer plan, an amnesty for illegal residents. He squandered his election victory for the sake of re-election and his legacy.
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I'm sorry, but I'm exhausted with these thumb-sucking "analyses" about what losers Democrats are. Hillary Clinton received more votes than 45--3 million more! She would have won the election if not for the eminently unelectable Jill Stein. Sure, we are pretty lazy when it comes to midterm elections, but you can rest assured it won't happen in 2018. Enough already. Go back and read the obits for the Republican party after 2012.
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Clinton would have won if not for the Reconstruction era gift to the slave owners, aka the Electoral College. The North bribed the South with the gift of votes they did not qualify for; we are still living with that big mistake.
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I'm sure it's just some obvious thing I'm simply not seeing, but can anyone tell me why when conservatives make comments they're called "trolls", but when liberals comments they're called "the resistance"?
Also -- I've been away for awhile, so bear with me -- are the half of the electorate who voted Republican still Nazis and misogynists, or have they been downgraded to idiots?
Also -- I've been away for awhile, so bear with me -- are the half of the electorate who voted Republican still Nazis and misogynists, or have they been downgraded to idiots?
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Some are still Nazis and misogynists; but, some are good people, as Trump would say. So far, he has a Cabinet which will attack EPA regs; consumer protection regs; certain banking regs; defund NATO, and be much nicer to Putin, the old KGB murderer. Putin is an old friend of Tillerson who has a lot of drilling rights in Russia and the Balkans. Hard to say if all Trump voters are idiots; they put one in the Oval Office. Now they want to put another guy on the Supreme Court who has been dishonest in his answers about his real opinions, much like Sessions. Gorsuch would try to get rid of Roe v. Wade and put women back into the '50's. He is not really a moderate, as Sessions was not really without close Russian ties during the last election. The Republicans are past masters at murky answers when they are pressed for direct answers. Gorsuch will be Scalia-lite.
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I'm all for "no" if it serves to protect us from the current administration and republican congress governing in a way that harms the general population. (So far, that's all I'm seeing from the Republicans.) However, the Democratic leadership should be prepared to counter with what would be acceptable. By saying no without offering or negotiating a path to a better solution they are not really governing and are no different than the Republicans during the Obama administration. We are better than that.
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"When you agree with me you are right, and when you disagree you are wrong and therefore irrelevant." Compromise isn't possible when one party believes compromise is "losing."
The GOP wants Dems to work with them on their Health Plan in a rubber stamp fashion only. The GOP is interested in the tax cuts; the pastiched health plan is simply their excuse. If Dems participate; they only provide cover to the GOP for the future suffering this bill will cause.
Any Replacement Plan providing less than the ACA should be opposed. The ACA has radically changed the discussion in this country about health care. It has opened our eyes to what the rest of the world enjoys: health care that is available at a reasonable cost and that will not mean that one major illness leads to bankruptcy for the middle-class. We pay 2 x's or more what the rest of the world pays and our health stats are falling compared to other countries. The GOP is correct that we have the best health care in the world--if you have unlimited sums to pay for it. If you don't have that money--we come out pretty dead last among wealthy countries.
Frankly, the chief selling point for the GOP bill: "It's really not so terrible as it seems, this is only the first of three parts." The Dems should not be stupid enough to step foot on THAT slippery slope.
The GOP wants Dems to work with them on their Health Plan in a rubber stamp fashion only. The GOP is interested in the tax cuts; the pastiched health plan is simply their excuse. If Dems participate; they only provide cover to the GOP for the future suffering this bill will cause.
Any Replacement Plan providing less than the ACA should be opposed. The ACA has radically changed the discussion in this country about health care. It has opened our eyes to what the rest of the world enjoys: health care that is available at a reasonable cost and that will not mean that one major illness leads to bankruptcy for the middle-class. We pay 2 x's or more what the rest of the world pays and our health stats are falling compared to other countries. The GOP is correct that we have the best health care in the world--if you have unlimited sums to pay for it. If you don't have that money--we come out pretty dead last among wealthy countries.
Frankly, the chief selling point for the GOP bill: "It's really not so terrible as it seems, this is only the first of three parts." The Dems should not be stupid enough to step foot on THAT slippery slope.
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Where I live the left is more energized than I've ever seen in my life. People are organized and keeping the pressure on our elected officials. I don't know if the Democrats will survive, but the left is not going anywhere.
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Tell Bernie to register as a true Democrat or just go his own way. He used the party to its detriment during the last election cycle.
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Bernie would have won if the campaign had been fair. IT was not; the media was in Clinton's pocket from the get-go, they ignored Bernie and handed Hillary the nomination. Sanders would have beaten Trump; most anyone other than Hillary would have.
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Wrong. Bernie had a history of being an Independent Socialist. He joined the Democrats in order to be a Democratic candidate. He failed. His childrens' crusade failed because the kids did not register as Democrats in time to vote in a Democratic convention. Bernie did succeed in using old GOP slanders against Clinton. He campaigned for her, too little, too late. I am way past tired of Bernie.
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Bernie people will never admit that he gave the presidency to Donald Trump. He unconsciously worked with the right wing Republicans in the Russians to elect the biggest creep in history.
He's just another Nader with a big ego. And Elizabeth Warren was a weak link also waiting to the last minute the joint on to the Hillary bandwagon. Before crazy fretless so-called progressives on the left gave this presidency to Donald Trump. And they're too stupid to ever know it. It doesn't bode well for the party.
He's just another Nader with a big ego. And Elizabeth Warren was a weak link also waiting to the last minute the joint on to the Hillary bandwagon. Before crazy fretless so-called progressives on the left gave this presidency to Donald Trump. And they're too stupid to ever know it. It doesn't bode well for the party.
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No one believes that Trump won the election. The Democrats lost it. He just stepped in. Obama was always the lesser of bad choices for many Democrats. Think about it, he threw the unions under the bus by pushing those trade agreements. Agreements that took jobs away from Americans. How can that be right. He arrogantly insisted that Congress vote on the his legacy trade agreement in secret. He threw seniors under the bus while acquiescing to Republicans for eight years. And there were so many how Democratic Party constituencies that were left behind. Obama was so far to the right for most Democrats, it was hard to distinguish him from a conservative. When did the public ever hear from a single Democrat other than Obama for eight years in the media. It was like they were told to keep their mouths shut. They still rarely speak up in the media. Democrats are not the new Party of No, but rather they continue to be the Silent Party of Compromise and Acquiescence. They had hard-ball politics thrown at them for five decades, and they don't know to play that game.
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Trump didn't transform the Democratic Party, Goldman Sachs, et al, did. Hilary represented the best of a bad menu. Time to move on.
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Clinton was not the best of a bad menu; she was an intelligent, highly qualified moderate who would have governed well. Her young inexperienced campaign managers did not listen to Bill Clinton; Hillary did not go into the States with the working class voters she needed; Bill told her where and how to campaign; he was ignored. Bill would have gotten those votes for her; he went home. There was no loyalty to Bernie. Mrs. Bernie Sanders had a sketchy history with the small University of Burlington; she was on the Board and invested in beach front property in which she had a vested interest. The school could not afford that investment; it went under. Bernie's free college tuition for all, and free health care for all was a non-starter. The U.S. runs on a for profit economy which includes education and health care. That needs to change. All politics is local; start with electing Democratic governors and legislators; change the voting Districts; elect Democrats to Congress. That is how it works; "work" is the operative word. There is no quick fix; the Republicans worked toward the power they have for decades; they were organized and focused. Truman never stopped working. He never took any vote for granted. Lesson to be learned from Truman's whistle stop campaign.
" The New Party of No: How a president and a protest movement transformed the Democrats."
I think the headline above is an erroneous interpretation of the state of American politics lately.
Donald Trump's election just confirmed what many political scientists have been saying for a while. American politics became the continuation of warfare by other means.
Republicans were first to recognize that maxim and have been acting accordingly. That explains their dominant position vis a vis democrats today.
I think the headline above is an erroneous interpretation of the state of American politics lately.
Donald Trump's election just confirmed what many political scientists have been saying for a while. American politics became the continuation of warfare by other means.
Republicans were first to recognize that maxim and have been acting accordingly. That explains their dominant position vis a vis democrats today.
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No! is clearly the answer and it certainly worked for the Republicans against President Obama, but without the numbers to back it up, America will be forced to continue to live with Trumps ridiculous behavior.
The television and newspapers of our country that support the Democratic Party need to stay hard focused on the travesty that characterizes Trump's "leadership."
The television and newspapers of our country that support the Democratic Party need to stay hard focused on the travesty that characterizes Trump's "leadership."
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They need to focus on the activities of his immediate family: Ivanka and her jewelry sales; Don Jr. and his bribes in Mumbai to build a Tower on land fill; Eric and his personal business trips to Peru on our tax dollars. This family should not be on the White House grounds, and definitely not inside the White House.
A worthwhile read and there are some encouraging signs for a long-time Dem here. However, it's hard to escape the feeling that Dems like Schumer and Pelosi feel our problems are cosmetic rather than things that go more to the bone. The GOP pushes destructive and heartless ideas, but those ideas have the political advantages of being clear and easily communicated. Dems used to push clearly identifiable and straightforward priorities in direct, easily understood terms. We need to get our groove back on that starting at the local level if we're to turn this thing around.
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And the Hillary supporters continue to blame those of us who supported Bernie. Listen closely, "Hillary lost". Period. Move on. Time to face reality and note the reasons why she lost. Make the needed changes or it will be more of the same for Dems in the coming elections.
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She won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes. She lost, barely, the Electoral College vote. The EC vote is dominated by gerrymandered Districts set up by very conservative Governors who carry forward old Southern policies. We need to go with a popular national vote. If the conservative Republican Party cannot win that vote, it is time for Republicans to make changes; they do not have the young and the minorities. Demographics are against the Republican Party.
She lost. A good thing.
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Recent thoughts about the Democrats: Riding the disingenuous Hillaryitte news machine. Now after red baiting for months and making all kinds of false statements and creating expectation that Trump was a Russian agent the same clowns who gave you the story are now backing away from it, much like making money on the upside and money on the downside of a rising and falling stock market these supposed experts and journalist know the game they're playing and the game they have been playing. It keeps substantive stories out of the news. It makes people like Rachel Maddow rich while keeping the Democratic Party leaders, the Stooges of the status quo in power. But now Glenn Greenwald points out that the Democratic Leadership is concerned they've gone too far. The chickens are coming home to roost. They fear they've created a rabid Democratic Beast that will demand real evidence and there is none.
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The main problem with the Democrats is that they are not united.
Republicans came together to elect the biggest monstrous debacle in history. The Democrats couldn't settle on the most qualified candidate in the history of the United States according to Brock Obama and myself. They gave great credence to this little character from Vermont calling himself a socialist. He basically single-handedly took down the Democratic Party. He jumped on the right wing bandwagon to accuse Hillary Clinton about things the right wing could only hope anyone would listen to. And with help from infiltrators from the right he was able to get 40% of the Democrats to actually hate Hillary Clinton. Nice going Bernie, thank you so much. What a dork!
Republicans came together to elect the biggest monstrous debacle in history. The Democrats couldn't settle on the most qualified candidate in the history of the United States according to Brock Obama and myself. They gave great credence to this little character from Vermont calling himself a socialist. He basically single-handedly took down the Democratic Party. He jumped on the right wing bandwagon to accuse Hillary Clinton about things the right wing could only hope anyone would listen to. And with help from infiltrators from the right he was able to get 40% of the Democrats to actually hate Hillary Clinton. Nice going Bernie, thank you so much. What a dork!
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Bernie, the opportunist Independent Socialist, used GOP talking points against a woman who gave her intelligent and loyal service to the Democratic Party for 26 years. He came in at the last minute for an ego run at an office for which he had no qualifications. He had never governed anything; Trump had never governed anything. The difference? Marketing! Trump had that part down, and he rolled over a candidate who would have made a decent, moderate, smart President. Now we have a middle school drop out and his predatory family. One can only hope that he is forced out before he does long term damage via his questionable links to Russian oligarchs. Let's see those tax returns showing loans given by Russians via third party banks. The money loaned through Deutsche Bank came through the Bank of Cyprus, a tainted bank where Ross sits on the Board. Trump is the proverbial "useful idiot".
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Hillary who won the election anyway was hoisted on her own elitist petard. It wasn't the emails just; there was a health issue and her constant hobnobbing with the famous and rich -- made her very relatable to all those people with little in Appalachia and elsewhere. And as I suspected the perks from being the prez are FANTASTICK! (Did the Clintons deserve four more years?!!) Now maybe she can start a foundation dealing with women's problems here and abroad: abuse, food insufficiency, education, BIRTH ConTrOL.. (Oprah's school in Africa - how is that one doing?) My other favorite issue is tax reform-- luxury tax NOW. [Of course, Bill got rid of the last one we had. ;-(]
and BTW Chucky -- fireplaces are far from green...nothing worse than trying to breathe outside on a winter's nite when everyone has a cheery wood fire going. Make it gas already! or virtual like my neighbor has. (Kind of awful but greener. Now I have to go compost!!!
and BTW Chucky -- fireplaces are far from green...nothing worse than trying to breathe outside on a winter's nite when everyone has a cheery wood fire going. Make it gas already! or virtual like my neighbor has. (Kind of awful but greener. Now I have to go compost!!!
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What is good for the gander is good for the gander. We are not all no but no to and economic disaster is a damn good idea. Saying no doesn't we want nothing done but that we want things done properly and not hurting others by are saying yes. No I don't want Hillary back I want Sanders and Warren going forward to bring us a better USA. One disaster at a time please.
Trump isn't only scaring the country by being Trump, he's also gone far more radically right than even his enemies thought was probable. If democrats think electing someone as far radically left as possible is the cure, they will only perpetuate the knee-jerk, left right left voting pattern that America now seems to be stuck in. The sweet spot is probably some imaginary line that runs about halfway between the Clinton and Sanders platforms of 2016. The extreme cost of going full Bernie would still scare most independent voters into swinging back right yet again in the following cycle. Most people do find the free ride Trump is about to give most billionaire's revolting. Those very same voters won't be tolerating a sixty or seventy percent tax rate anytime soon either, even on the rich. Hillary's platform wasn't so much wrong, as it was poorly explained. There was no bumper sticker long enough to hold it all. The next democratic nominee will scare voters away with any promise of instant free college and healthcare for all. Voters are more likely to embrace a public option to provide additional options in healthcare, combined with aggressive drug price negotiation. They'll also be willing to help more with college, but still want most students and their families to have at least some financial skin in the game. If dems can learn one thing from Trump, it's not to get too greedy and overwhelm everyone with self righteousness.
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Like the Democratic Party, The New York Times has yet to apologize for its pandering to the one Democratic candidate most likely to lose while following the corrupt Democratic National Committee playbook. This newspaper groveled to Wall Street by bashing Bernie Sanders, always ignoring his high ranking in the polls and enormous support evidenced by giant rallies of supporters of all ages. (It must make you crazy that he's STILL the most popular politician.) This newspaper ignored the fact that you don't have to be beholden to Wall Street and Citizens United; look how much money Sanders raised in a dollar here or $27 there. This newspaper and most of its columnists behaved shamefully. You called his ideas pie-in-the-sky, like Wall Street and the Clintons told you to, even though every other industrialized country had policies he promoted long in place. Shame on you.
What if this newspaper had both ignored and excoriated (baffling, I know) Mr. Obama the way they did Mr. Sanders? The Republicans would have won in 2008, the way they did in 2016. Now this newspaper keeps trying to analyze how a nasty bunch like the Trump gang could get elected without once, not once, looking in the mirror. This is your chance, New York Times, to make it right. Will you continue to grovel to Wall Street and its same-old-same-old Democratic Party minions? Or do the right thing this time and support a better America?
What if this newspaper had both ignored and excoriated (baffling, I know) Mr. Obama the way they did Mr. Sanders? The Republicans would have won in 2008, the way they did in 2016. Now this newspaper keeps trying to analyze how a nasty bunch like the Trump gang could get elected without once, not once, looking in the mirror. This is your chance, New York Times, to make it right. Will you continue to grovel to Wall Street and its same-old-same-old Democratic Party minions? Or do the right thing this time and support a better America?
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I object to the "New Party of No" applied to the Left. Not accurate. The GOP, originators of the Party of NO, used political power to block Obama's administration from accomplishing anything significant, and even closed down the gov't simply because he won (or is half Black). They refused to have hearings on appointees & Bills, voted over 60 times to repeal Obamacare (which was spawned in a GOP think-tank originally & they had 6 years to come up with a better plan), & refused hearing a SCOTUS appointee with a full year left of Obama's term.
The Democrats, to the contrary, have said no on appointments that were totally inappropriate to the positions that they were selected for, and at times basically told to sit down and shut up. They are willing to enter discussions on improving Obamacare, but are opposed to outright Repeal and Replace, especially since what has been put forth is detrimental to the majority of Americans -- one does not tear down a building when a dishwasher doesn't work.
So let's be a little careful about how we label the resist and protest movement representatives. We want a sane and stable government to represent us...not one in which the leader accuses former presidents of illegal acts based on a whacko analyst on Fox News, insults foreign leaders (mostly our allies) and has his Secretary of State making war noises.
The Democrats, to the contrary, have said no on appointments that were totally inappropriate to the positions that they were selected for, and at times basically told to sit down and shut up. They are willing to enter discussions on improving Obamacare, but are opposed to outright Repeal and Replace, especially since what has been put forth is detrimental to the majority of Americans -- one does not tear down a building when a dishwasher doesn't work.
So let's be a little careful about how we label the resist and protest movement representatives. We want a sane and stable government to represent us...not one in which the leader accuses former presidents of illegal acts based on a whacko analyst on Fox News, insults foreign leaders (mostly our allies) and has his Secretary of State making war noises.
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The Republican Party is like a cult. They exploit the psychological vulnerabilities of their victims to lure them in, telling them lies that rouse their emotional fervor and direct their anger toward "enemies" who can be blamed for their own failures and frustrations. The lies are repeated time after time, day after day, year after year, the repetition being both a way to make the lies "true" in the minds of the followers and a form of hypnosis like the proverbial timepiece swinging on a fob. Fox, Limbaugh, Breitbart, and their online ilk are the handmaids of this devilish cult, and Dear Leader's massive rallies and thank you tours are nothing but tent revivals preaching a perverted religion.
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Today's headline "Hillary Clinton Says She's Ready to Step out of the Woods," ready to re-enter public life saying 'it's hard to read the paper."
I'll bet. Who's surprised she wants even more un-deserved attention after leading her party to a shocking, historic loss in the most important election in our lifetime?
Please just go away! We've had 24 years of the greedy, self-aggrandizing Clintons dominating the Democratic Party w/ phony populism & conservative "3rd way" politics choking off any emerging talent in this party, chaining us to their GOP-lite agenda. The election of Tom Perez as DNC Chief proved the Clintons won't go away & let the Democratic Party renew itself unless we drive a stake through Hillary's heart.
She's not the Head of the Party. That's up for grabs now. Bill destroyed his own presidency with immature self-destructive behavior, yet we were still stuck w/ Hillary running in 2008 & 2016 - taking us down to ruin w/ her clueless campaign, after scooping up $10+ million in Wall Street fees the previous year. Anybody w/ a brain watching her knew she was going to lose.
I'd be more sympathetic if she'd ever said one word owning responsibility for her loss instead of blaming Comey & Putin. She ran a horrible campaign - no adequate explanations for her money-grabbing or why she & Bill, if they cared about this country so much, couldn't exit the Clinton Foundation before her candidacy. Such selfish people.
She's no martyr now, no matter what she thinks.
I'll bet. Who's surprised she wants even more un-deserved attention after leading her party to a shocking, historic loss in the most important election in our lifetime?
Please just go away! We've had 24 years of the greedy, self-aggrandizing Clintons dominating the Democratic Party w/ phony populism & conservative "3rd way" politics choking off any emerging talent in this party, chaining us to their GOP-lite agenda. The election of Tom Perez as DNC Chief proved the Clintons won't go away & let the Democratic Party renew itself unless we drive a stake through Hillary's heart.
She's not the Head of the Party. That's up for grabs now. Bill destroyed his own presidency with immature self-destructive behavior, yet we were still stuck w/ Hillary running in 2008 & 2016 - taking us down to ruin w/ her clueless campaign, after scooping up $10+ million in Wall Street fees the previous year. Anybody w/ a brain watching her knew she was going to lose.
I'd be more sympathetic if she'd ever said one word owning responsibility for her loss instead of blaming Comey & Putin. She ran a horrible campaign - no adequate explanations for her money-grabbing or why she & Bill, if they cared about this country so much, couldn't exit the Clinton Foundation before her candidacy. Such selfish people.
She's no martyr now, no matter what she thinks.
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When I first looked at the title, I thought the "No" was a negative. Now I realize it can be seen as a positive when it is standing up for values they were elected for. There is a record of No (stop the system) from the republicans - no judges (recent story), no on budgets (continuing resolution means we are operating at levels of years ago - not today), no (or DOA) on current Whitehouse proposals, no on Trump/RyanCare. The list goes on. Surely not all who voted for them wanted them to do just that, but they did.
The issue should not be about the Clintons or the establishment democrats; it is about the people, and we are they. I have no regrets in voting Bernie primaries and the Clinton in the election. The place we push change in the parties is at lower levels and in primaries. Once it makes it to the general election then we vote for who represents our interests best and we expect those people to deliver. If they bait and switch on the balance of things that matter to us, then we can have regrets. Right now these things align with Democrats. The used to align with Republicans but I don't see that happening with their current agenda and strategies.
The way I see it, all should speak and I welcome her return.
The issue should not be about the Clintons or the establishment democrats; it is about the people, and we are they. I have no regrets in voting Bernie primaries and the Clinton in the election. The place we push change in the parties is at lower levels and in primaries. Once it makes it to the general election then we vote for who represents our interests best and we expect those people to deliver. If they bait and switch on the balance of things that matter to us, then we can have regrets. Right now these things align with Democrats. The used to align with Republicans but I don't see that happening with their current agenda and strategies.
The way I see it, all should speak and I welcome her return.
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And what did you do during the war, sphincter? Yes she ran a poor campaign. BUT SHE'D BE ONE HELL OF A BETTER LEADER THAN TRUMP.
Republicans defined her incorrectly and it stuck. That is what killed her. Its the lie that did her in.
Republicans defined her incorrectly and it stuck. That is what killed her. Its the lie that did her in.
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It was 26 years of lies and slander, used by Bernie the back bench Senator from Vermont. He should be ashamed of what he did for the rest of his life. He is buying a $600,000 vacation home from the sale of beach front property; that property was sold by Mrs. Sanders and purchased with money from a small, underfunded local university; she sat on the Board of that university and directed the purchase of property in which she had an interest. Bernie benefited from the money gained. He can continue to talk about free college tuition for all, free health care etc. It gives him the audience he still seems to crave. I like many of his policies; I don't like him as a politician.
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We had a chance to win & a shot at single payer health care w/ Medicare expansion. But the Clintons & DNC insisted Hillary was entitled to be president & obstructed Bernie - who had the temerity to be a symbolic 'protest candidate' against income inequality & for working people - which turned out to be 2016's pivotal issues. Which Hillary never addressed except by threatening to put miners out of work & calling Trump supporters "deplorables." Her campaign in a nutshell: rigged nomination, insulting working people.
Losing strategies.
The DNC boxed Sanders out w/elitist Super Delegates (lethal in populist 2016), painting Sanders as a racist. The media colluded ignoring Bernie & belittling his supporters w/Clintonista talking points from Joel Benenson & Tom Perez. Hillary arrogantly refused to reach out to Bernie supporters after her rigged nomination - even as Bernie campaigned for her! Even though they would have won her the election! She made a bad choice dismissing Bernie's supporters. She needed them badly.
The Democratic Party is over if they don't move on from the self-destructive Clintons.
Bernie addressed the pivotal issues of 2016 while the Clintons called his supporters selfish "Bernie bros" wanting "free stuff." The Clintons were out of touch & the election was a historic rebuke of Hillary. Yet the Party & Hillary keep blaming Comey & Russia. Nobody's taking responsibility for her loss.
Democrats, straighten our your corrupt party or it's dead in 2018.
Losing strategies.
The DNC boxed Sanders out w/elitist Super Delegates (lethal in populist 2016), painting Sanders as a racist. The media colluded ignoring Bernie & belittling his supporters w/Clintonista talking points from Joel Benenson & Tom Perez. Hillary arrogantly refused to reach out to Bernie supporters after her rigged nomination - even as Bernie campaigned for her! Even though they would have won her the election! She made a bad choice dismissing Bernie's supporters. She needed them badly.
The Democratic Party is over if they don't move on from the self-destructive Clintons.
Bernie addressed the pivotal issues of 2016 while the Clintons called his supporters selfish "Bernie bros" wanting "free stuff." The Clintons were out of touch & the election was a historic rebuke of Hillary. Yet the Party & Hillary keep blaming Comey & Russia. Nobody's taking responsibility for her loss.
Democrats, straighten our your corrupt party or it's dead in 2018.
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And let us not forget the roles of The NY Times editorial staff, and columnists Krugman, Friedman, etc all, all of whom endorsed Clinton and her lies (contributed a few of their own) in service of the destruction of the Sanders campaign.
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Hillary was the most prepared and qualified person to be president of the United States in our lifetime. Redwing had been trying to take her down for more than 30 years. The left-wing being bratty bunch of uninformed clowns, decided to join in and go for the little man Bernie. And of course Bernie was infiltrated by the right wing and Russians to take down the most powerful Democrat in the United States.The one that every democrat in the house and the senate backed. But oh no that was a little clown called Bernie who also could never get anything past would all of a sudden rise to the hill and the whole realm of the world would open up suddenly magically.
Free healthcare and free school with his passing of a magic Juan would be available to everybody.
Free healthcare and free school with his passing of a magic Juan would be available to everybody.
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And don't forget that Liz Warren, who might have helped if she'd come out in favor of Bernie who shared her purported values. instead waited to see which way the wind was blowing, then backed Hillary who stands for everything Warren would have us believe she is against. I'm only afraid that in 2020 progressives will overlook Warren's duplicity and hand her the nomination. There have got to be credible people out their.
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Nope. Held my nose and voted for Clinton. Never. Again.
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You held your nose, how stupid of you. She was the most powerful Democrat in the United States. The one on the right wing feared the most. 87% liberal voting record the same as Elizabeth Warren. Have fun harder for women and children's rights than anyone in America. Was called by President Obama, the most qualified person in the history of America to become president. And you held your name. And you're proud of yourself. You deserve Donald Trump. Enjoy him.
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At least you can hold your head up and say that you didn't hold your nose and vote for 45.
Millenials did the same thing in the mid-terms; they went home in a snit and gave us a Republican controlled Congress. Now they have given us Trump who will trash everything they want or need. He will trash what their parents and grandparents need and want.
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The "New Party of No" must say "No" to the current version of "conservatism."
President Trump's budget and Speaker Ryan's Non-Care plan both make perfect "conservative" sense.
In contemporary parlance, "conservative" means "one who uses abstract, short-term economic efficiency as the justification for all socio-economic programs and policies irrespective of the consequences for persons." Short term capital accumulation and profits are the be all and end all of "social interactions." For such "conservatives" all "human" relations are transactional and fungible, whatever is legal is moral, and "justice" is the inevitable outcome of laissez faire, "free"-market exchanges. "Freedom" is "the opportunity to expend one's time, talent and resources in any way one deems conducive to the pursuit of one's self-interest."
Speaker Ryan cloaks his "conservatism" under a mantle of pseudo-piety.
President Trump's "conservatism" is obscured by populist campaign promises that, it is becoming increasingly evident, will never be honored.
Will the Trump-Ryan-Non-Care plans cover the costs of staunching all the wounds that the President and the Grinchly Oligarchic Party's Speaker inflict upon themselves? Will it cover the costs of dressing all the ricochet wounds to President Trump's own white working-class supporters?
The political fallout of the Trump budget and Ryan-Non-Care may well prove more than interesting.
President Trump's budget and Speaker Ryan's Non-Care plan both make perfect "conservative" sense.
In contemporary parlance, "conservative" means "one who uses abstract, short-term economic efficiency as the justification for all socio-economic programs and policies irrespective of the consequences for persons." Short term capital accumulation and profits are the be all and end all of "social interactions." For such "conservatives" all "human" relations are transactional and fungible, whatever is legal is moral, and "justice" is the inevitable outcome of laissez faire, "free"-market exchanges. "Freedom" is "the opportunity to expend one's time, talent and resources in any way one deems conducive to the pursuit of one's self-interest."
Speaker Ryan cloaks his "conservatism" under a mantle of pseudo-piety.
President Trump's "conservatism" is obscured by populist campaign promises that, it is becoming increasingly evident, will never be honored.
Will the Trump-Ryan-Non-Care plans cover the costs of staunching all the wounds that the President and the Grinchly Oligarchic Party's Speaker inflict upon themselves? Will it cover the costs of dressing all the ricochet wounds to President Trump's own white working-class supporters?
The political fallout of the Trump budget and Ryan-Non-Care may well prove more than interesting.
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The Democratic party became complacent. The huge grassroots organization created by the first Obama campaign was co-opted by the DNC and then allowed to wither on the vine, losing the younger activist voters. Unions used to rally the blue collar and working class vote for the Democrats, but the polices supported by the party have drastically reduced unions and their political power, thus reducing the Democrat's influence with that constituency. Gerrymandering certainly didn't help either. Now the party has to show that is ready to fight for the people.
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As is to be expected this clever article and the tactical decisions discussed really have not much to do with what is good for the American people, especially on economic grounds where the suffering is greatest. The Democrats are no longer the party of FDR because they are run by neoliberals who favor the wealthy and disguise it with identity politics.
It is time for Bernie Sanders to leave the Democratic Party and for the rest of us real Democrats to follow him.
It is time for Bernie Sanders to leave the Democratic Party and for the rest of us real Democrats to follow him.
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Want to know what's wrong with the Democratic Party? These words say it all:
"They showed that college-educated women in both states — a demographic that everyone assumed would be a lock — were underperforming for Clinton. Schumer called one of her top campaign advisers, who tried to reassure him. “He says, ‘Don’t worry, our firewalls in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan are strong,’ ”
Oh, my! Like recalcitrant show dogs, the gals were "underperforming". Must have been off their feed that day.
And firewalls work great on computers and buildings, so why not people? Gee, whiz, what the heck happened?
Change is what happened; it's not the change Obama promised and failed to bring about for eight years;it's not the change Bernie Sanders promoted but had stymied by party insiders.
Change has happened and it's name is Trump.
The Democrats have failed.
"They showed that college-educated women in both states — a demographic that everyone assumed would be a lock — were underperforming for Clinton. Schumer called one of her top campaign advisers, who tried to reassure him. “He says, ‘Don’t worry, our firewalls in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan are strong,’ ”
Oh, my! Like recalcitrant show dogs, the gals were "underperforming". Must have been off their feed that day.
And firewalls work great on computers and buildings, so why not people? Gee, whiz, what the heck happened?
Change is what happened; it's not the change Obama promised and failed to bring about for eight years;it's not the change Bernie Sanders promoted but had stymied by party insiders.
Change has happened and it's name is Trump.
The Democrats have failed.
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Clinton beat Trump by 3,000,000 votes; she lost via the Electoral College vote, a remnant from Reconstruction after the Civil War. If we elected Presidents the way Europe elects their leaders, Clinton would be President by popular vote. Bernie Sanders did not have a national voting base; he joined the Democrats at the last minute and brought in the childrens' crusade to overwhelm the old Party membership at the Convention. It did not work, because a lot of those children forgot to register in time to vote in the Convention. His campaign was an amateur run. Campaigns for the Presidency require some foundation within the Party, whichever one you choose. Campaigns cost mega bucks, and donors don't go with candidates who do not have a track record. Bernie would have been destroyed by his Socialist political background which would have been used against him. I like him, and I like his policies; however, he remained an Independent Socialist until he wanted to be a Democratic candidate for President. That is not how it works.
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The type of change that Bernie wanted could only be accomplished by Hillary Clinton. Bernie could only shout and wag his fingers he could get nothing done. So called progressive Democrats learned nothing from the defeat by George W. Bush. They're not progressive there regressive.
They brought the Democratic Party down again at a time that was the most important history. As the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their lives because they bring in George W Bush. Or the hundreds thousands of people lost their homes because Al gore wasn't good enough. Hillary would've made a great president. But she worked too hard for it and made too many powerhouse contacts for the snotty left eing. They are perpetual losers think it only hang their hat on a loser.
They brought the Democratic Party down again at a time that was the most important history. As the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their lives because they bring in George W Bush. Or the hundreds thousands of people lost their homes because Al gore wasn't good enough. Hillary would've made a great president. But she worked too hard for it and made too many powerhouse contacts for the snotty left eing. They are perpetual losers think it only hang their hat on a loser.
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I have no idea what point you are trying to make. FYI: I am a Democrat of many, many years; Al Gore was a terrible candidate from before the nomination; he had one issue, the environment. He was unable to connect in public forums; he did not have the charisma Bill Clinton had, and he refused the enormous help Clinton offered. Gore was a somewhat pompous guy who never had a chance at the nomination; Clinton was a Party member for 26 years; she gave her time and money to get candidates started in State politics, one of whom was Bernie Sanders. Bernie went on to trash his benefactor; his wife went on to use donation money for personal expenses. Mrs. Sanders was the power behind Bernie, and a lot of people in Vermont did not like her.
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No! is little more than a short to-mid term strategy.
What's really needed is a long term reinvention for the party with the keywords: "Yes! These are our objectives and how we intend to achieve them"
This re-invention should occur without the involvement of the incompetents who led the Gore campaign in 2000, several of whom also were involved in the tone-deaf Hillary Clinton campaign that enabled this latest disaster.
Begin with the first top to bottom investigation of the trillions of taxpayer monies that have funded one CIA or military overseas disaster after another for more than a century. Imagine how the national infrastructure, health care and education systems would have profited had those trillions of military dollars been invested instead in improving the lives of Americans of all backgrounds.
Remember, also, how USG money and military interventions, taken under both republican and democrat regimes, have caused human misery in every continent dating back to the 1950s, rooted to the current catastrophic chaos in the Middle East.
In the Twitter age the real challenge is how to block out the noise and focus on specific goals and programs, not buzzwords.
What's really needed is a long term reinvention for the party with the keywords: "Yes! These are our objectives and how we intend to achieve them"
This re-invention should occur without the involvement of the incompetents who led the Gore campaign in 2000, several of whom also were involved in the tone-deaf Hillary Clinton campaign that enabled this latest disaster.
Begin with the first top to bottom investigation of the trillions of taxpayer monies that have funded one CIA or military overseas disaster after another for more than a century. Imagine how the national infrastructure, health care and education systems would have profited had those trillions of military dollars been invested instead in improving the lives of Americans of all backgrounds.
Remember, also, how USG money and military interventions, taken under both republican and democrat regimes, have caused human misery in every continent dating back to the 1950s, rooted to the current catastrophic chaos in the Middle East.
In the Twitter age the real challenge is how to block out the noise and focus on specific goals and programs, not buzzwords.
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There is one salient difference between the Republicans following the 2010 elections and the Democrats today: the Democrats are representing the wishes of a plurality of the voters in 2016 -- and a majority of Americans today.
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The talk is loud, the talk is cheap. You might try something novel and actually vote in the midterms, Dems. But that will require actual effort.
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The Dems are beginning to show a pulse. That's welcome. Some still like to remind us that they are freshmen congress representatives. Not welcome. Don't recollect Freshmen Tea Partiers reminding their communities of their status as a reason for the voters not to expect much.
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The most effective thing the Democrats - congressional, in the suburbs and however many remain in rural areas - can do is to restore the working class movement, most notably the unions. The longterm weakness of the Party and its eventual collapse went side by side with increasing weakness of the union movement. I'm not talking about the public employee and megabusiness unions that achieved success by channeling the the greed of their members but about earlier organizations that demanded a fair share for the worker.
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The South lost VW when their anti-union culture and laws became known. The manufacturing VW would have brought them was lost due to ignorance and local corrupt politics. VW has good jobs and good benefits. They do not have a history of racial discrimination and anti-union practices.
I agree with much of Trump's and the republican agenda, immigration, deportation, a trillion dollar infrastructure bill, putting medicaid recipients to work, etc. I would like to see single payer health insurance for all, the same that congress has. The cap on earnings subject to the social security tax should be abolished. I disagree with loosening regulations on the environment and banking. And I strenuously disagree with lowering taxes on the rich, in fact I think they should be raised to near 50% as these are the funds we'll use to finance our new single payer health insurance and infrastructure improvements. After all, no one benefits more than the rich from a sound infrastructure.
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If you agree on deporting immigrants then you should start packing your bags - you are probably one yourself. Oh-- maybe you mean just the undesirable ones - the people with dark skin.
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I am a thru and thru NYC liberal but one thing that keeps bugging me more and more: the refusal of the "old guard" to step aside and help and mentor younger leaders. When I (GenX) or my children (millennials) turn on the TV and see people of Grandpa and Grandma's age "leading" the party in Congress, we can't help it but to feel that the party is still very much a "baby boomer" party using ourdated strategies and outdated thinking unable to reach newer generations. Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Schumer, time to retire and to become wise mentors for new, younger leadership with fresh, new ideas.
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You don't throw out experience. You use it.
I agree that the staff quo people need to go. But look who shows moral courage and fights for the common good these days: Bernie Sanders, Ralph Nader, Jimmy Carter. The Kristen Gillebrands, the Liz Warrens, the Corey Bookers have all shown themselves to be cowards who lurk in the shadows when they need to take a stand in favor of the common good.
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You use it to mentor bright young newcomers who will have a long future in Congress. You don't just hang on because you have always been there. Pelosi and Schumer are no longer progressive leaders.
I have been a Democrat all my life, but my most recent interest, in spite of the craziness of Mr. Trump, is to reflect on the good and the bad of both parties. We have a tendency to think in black and white terms and that kind of thinking has the effect of obscuring reality. It's facile to think that Republicans are bad and Democrats are good. Democrats have a lot to account for and in addition to saying no to Trump and his henchmen, it will be necessary to understand their massive areas of failure, indeed, shame. The Democratic Party has been complicit, in an active way, in the deterioration of many of the values and practices that defined the Democrats from FDR forward and defined progressives prior to that time. Author and political observer Thomas Frank (in his book Listen Liberal!) makes a persuasive case that under Bill Clinton, the Democratic party was more complicit in what we Dems think of as Republican policies, than the Republicans could have done on their own. Barack Obama, with many good personal qualities, was also complicit. There is a reason why working class Americans feel abandoned by the party, and it's not all about Fox news.
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I certainly agree re the Clintons, but I think that it is terribly harsh to lump Obama in with the crowd of cowardly "centrist" Democrats, given that he faced unprecedented obstructionism on congress, a fundamentally racist culture, and a W- and "financial services industry"- generated economic disaster.
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Obama presented Congress with a very good Jobs Bill and an Infrastructure Bill; the Republicans dominated Congress and refused two good pieces of legislation in order to keep Obama from leaving any legacy. He did manage the ACA, imperfect, but giving at least 20 million more Americans health care. He tried to put a fine Superior Court judge on the Supreme Court; Republicans voted for him to be on the Superior Court, a common pathway to the Supreme Court. They chose to not vote; they chose to leave us with this lame candidate, Gorsuch, an enemy of Planned Parenthood. When poor women lose PP, where will they go? To the closed community health centers? The local hospital ER rooms? Local doctors who are willing to treat the poor? Back room doctors who have lost their credentials? We have already been to that movie; it had a bad ending.
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"No" was the only answer Hillary Clinton had to Sen. Sanders's agenda. Likewise to Trump. How did that work out? Have we forgotten already?
The Democrats need ideological clarity, and they need it yesterday. If they actually stood for something they wouldn't have to stand against everything.
The Democrats need ideological clarity, and they need it yesterday. If they actually stood for something they wouldn't have to stand against everything.
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I believe Bernie is a loyal US citizen. Some of his concerns have merit.
I question his qualifications to be giving advice to the Democratic Party when he is an Independent senator from Vermont. Identifying himself as an Independent means he does not identify as a Republican or Democratic. He did not even switch from Independent to Democratic Party to run for an office representing the Democratic Party.
How can a person represent a party when he has not chosen to become a member of the party?
If he wants to be a mouthpiece for change in a party other than his own, he needs become a member of that party!
Until then, he needs to concentrate on organizing and expanding his “Independent Party” enough to have influence in national politics and not trying to high-jack an established party for his own personal and political goals.
Bernie – display courage of your convictions!
I question his qualifications to be giving advice to the Democratic Party when he is an Independent senator from Vermont. Identifying himself as an Independent means he does not identify as a Republican or Democratic. He did not even switch from Independent to Democratic Party to run for an office representing the Democratic Party.
How can a person represent a party when he has not chosen to become a member of the party?
If he wants to be a mouthpiece for change in a party other than his own, he needs become a member of that party!
Until then, he needs to concentrate on organizing and expanding his “Independent Party” enough to have influence in national politics and not trying to high-jack an established party for his own personal and political goals.
Bernie – display courage of your convictions!
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For anyone who didn't want to see Hilary and Bill back in the White House (he did worse than sit on a couch with shoes on), Trump was the only other candidate.
The Republicans and many Democrats said no to Hilary- it appeared it would be 4 more years of the same and they wanted a change.
Now we have a change- let's see where it takes us- if it turns out we're not better off, we know how to vote the next time.
The Republicans and many Democrats said no to Hilary- it appeared it would be 4 more years of the same and they wanted a change.
Now we have a change- let's see where it takes us- if it turns out we're not better off, we know how to vote the next time.
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It is already taking us out of an old alliance, NATO. It has already led to an insult to one of our oldest and most loyal allies, Australia. It has already devolved into an Administration with no clear policies, and no staff for major Agencies, i.e. State Department and the IRS. It has already brought a crazy old anti-semitic Leninist into the Oval Office, Bannon, who wants to destroy the "administrative State"; I think he means the U.S. government. It is already gearing up to dismantle the EPA so rivers can run with toxic waste again; manufacturing can ignore environmental regs, and can enter into trade agreements with countries which have no environmental or serious financial enforcement, and more which we don't know about yet. We know where it is taking us; we don't know how long it will take to repair the damage.
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A plague is a change- and we have one. You know his name.
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Dems should put forth their alternative, improve-it vision for healthcare, as well as their proposal for that $T infrastructure bill, to include 21st century cyber-stuff.
http://danvillesanramon.com/blogs/p/2017/03/05/governing-from-behind
http://danvillesanramon.com/blogs/p/2017/03/05/governing-from-behind
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No mention of the defeat of the progressive wing by the neoliberal Dem establishment at the DNC chair election?
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Elizabeth Warren: "`... We need better outreach. We need better talking points.’ Better talking points? Are you kidding me? People were so desperate for economic change in this country that Donald Trump was just inaugurated as president, and people think we need better talking points? What alternative planet are they living on?” She's eloquent. But what if this economic change the white working class is desperate for is something no one can give them -- i.e. the middle class jobs taken away by automation that does the work better and cheaper than humans. Then the problem -- white working class Trumpmania -- may solve itself when Trump flops. If this is true then a wonky, sensible Clintonesque agenda may work better -- politically as well as economically -- than a populist one. (I'm speaking as one who was thrilled when Bernie's campaign took off, but anxious when it looked like he might actually get the nomination.)
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The Democrats have prepared a Straight Jacket of Political Correctness that they planned to put on every American, and still plan to do, if ever elected again. That is still their plan. Watch out! They are more entrenched and doctrinaire than they ever have been.
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Why aren't Democrats winning more elections?
The poor, minorities and the young.
The Pew Research Center studies found that those who were most unlikely to vote are demographically distinct from likely voters. 34 percent of nonvoters are younger than 30 years old and the vast majority—70 percent—are younger than 50 years old. Almost half—46 percent—of nonvoters have family incomes less than $30,000 per year, while only 19 percent of likely voters are from low-income families. A full 43 percent of nonvoters are Hispanic, African American, or other racial and ethnic minorities. In 2010, only 26.7 percent of citizens earning less than $10,000 voted, while 61.6 percent of those making $150,000 voted.
While likely voters in the 2012 presidential election split 47 percent in favor of Obama and 47 percent in favor of Romney, 59 percent of nonvoters supported Obama and only 24 percent supported Romney. The study also found divergence on key policy issues, including healthcare, progressive taxation and the role of government.
A week ago, on March 7, 2017 Los Angeles County held elections. The L.A. Daily News noted: "The election included a quarter-cent sales tax measure to combat homelessness, a successful re-election run by Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and local council and mayoral races in more than two dozen municipalities." The 593,233 ballots tallied as of early Wednesday March 8th put the turnout figure at 11.29 percent.
88% abstention in a Democratic stronghold?
The poor, minorities and the young.
The Pew Research Center studies found that those who were most unlikely to vote are demographically distinct from likely voters. 34 percent of nonvoters are younger than 30 years old and the vast majority—70 percent—are younger than 50 years old. Almost half—46 percent—of nonvoters have family incomes less than $30,000 per year, while only 19 percent of likely voters are from low-income families. A full 43 percent of nonvoters are Hispanic, African American, or other racial and ethnic minorities. In 2010, only 26.7 percent of citizens earning less than $10,000 voted, while 61.6 percent of those making $150,000 voted.
While likely voters in the 2012 presidential election split 47 percent in favor of Obama and 47 percent in favor of Romney, 59 percent of nonvoters supported Obama and only 24 percent supported Romney. The study also found divergence on key policy issues, including healthcare, progressive taxation and the role of government.
A week ago, on March 7, 2017 Los Angeles County held elections. The L.A. Daily News noted: "The election included a quarter-cent sales tax measure to combat homelessness, a successful re-election run by Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and local council and mayoral races in more than two dozen municipalities." The 593,233 ballots tallied as of early Wednesday March 8th put the turnout figure at 11.29 percent.
88% abstention in a Democratic stronghold?
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I said, ‘Well, a trillion dollars sounds good to me,’ ” Schumer told me. But to get Democrats on board, he warned, three conditions had to be met. “You can’t do it with these tax breaks,” he said. Second, he could not “cut the programs we care about — Medicare, education, scientific research — to pay for this. It’s got to be new spending.” Finally, the bill had to preserve existing environmental and labor protections."
This shows how clueless and arrogant the Dems are. They lose the election and control no part of the government. Yet Shumer expects he can dictate the terms of a large infrastructure bill. It must be done the Dems way or not at all. NEw Yorkers and Dems, you have a complete fool as Senator and minority leader. And he'll stay minority leader as a result. You don't get to have your cake and to eat it too.
This shows how clueless and arrogant the Dems are. They lose the election and control no part of the government. Yet Shumer expects he can dictate the terms of a large infrastructure bill. It must be done the Dems way or not at all. NEw Yorkers and Dems, you have a complete fool as Senator and minority leader. And he'll stay minority leader as a result. You don't get to have your cake and to eat it too.
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I don't think you read the piece thoroughly. Schumer outlining the terms of democratic support, i.e. If Trump really wanted to work with democrats. (Turns out he doesn't.) What Shumer was doing was not dictating.
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Democrats have never been an opposition party? Whoa.... ! That's a new one!
A downer, fantastical article, really, with no mention of the Comey-Putin tag team who stole victory from Clinton.
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The party of 'All things are possible through government' still project that narrative as their very existence is at stake and...they understand the people like being lied to. Forget about delivering, just promise them a goldmine and when they get the shaft, blame, pivot and start anew with the promise. Bill Maher is right...people are stupid.
You could have fooled me; I thought we built the biggest, most powerful industrialized nation in the Western democratic world. I thought we won WWII, and then rebuilt Europe and Japan. Maybe there are just levels of stupid, and Einstein was from another planet entirely.
Politics has become a modern day gladiator sport, meanwhile, problems are not getting solved. The opioid crisis is out of control, drinking water continues to be full of contaminants, food is contaminated with pesticides, diabetes continues to be a national epidemic. How about a strategy which puts Making America Healthy Again in place? Get creative, not combative.
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i suggest that as a long-time and elderly supporter of the moderate wing of the Democratic Party that these times require the Party to re-capture the vote of the white male voter in order to win the 2020 election. it will also require a deft hand at the tiller to, at the same time, animate the progressive wing so they get out and vote en masse, including the black and Hispanic blocs. but at least until after the 2020 election, the party must win back those voters in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsyvania, North Carolina, and Wisconsin who went for the GOP. and the Progressives must know that winning New York and California and New Jersey and New England won't do it alone. these states are already in the choir and won't be leaving.
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After the disastrous 2016 elections, the Democratic Party has ways to go to fix itself. It is fractured and it has not addressed the whys. The 2018 midterm elections will produce no miracles for the Democrats if the party continues alienating the electorates who supported Bernie Sanders. Will the party learn its lessons?
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I always feel a pang of sympathy for kids who cry “He started it!” and then are scolded by an exasperated parent. If you have a mindless bully for a sibling and he refuses to play by the rules, is it really possible to conduct yourself with nobility?
Professionalism and political reality demand that our representatives compromise with the Republicans. But for eight years the Republicans refused Obama’s repeated invitations to negotiate, and the Republicans shamefully denounced the ACA, which was itself an olive branch and a compromise. Now they are making breathtakingly inappropriate cabinet appointments, promising to rape the environment and to rob the poor for the aggrandizement of the rich. What can the Democrats possibly do but say No?
I do, however, applaud Senator Schumer for his continued professionalism. Whenever the Democrats can find common ground with the Republicans, we must do so. All Americans should have their say, including the most backward.
Professionalism and political reality demand that our representatives compromise with the Republicans. But for eight years the Republicans refused Obama’s repeated invitations to negotiate, and the Republicans shamefully denounced the ACA, which was itself an olive branch and a compromise. Now they are making breathtakingly inappropriate cabinet appointments, promising to rape the environment and to rob the poor for the aggrandizement of the rich. What can the Democrats possibly do but say No?
I do, however, applaud Senator Schumer for his continued professionalism. Whenever the Democrats can find common ground with the Republicans, we must do so. All Americans should have their say, including the most backward.
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I can't believe that such a terrible article got published. It is just a series of stories, like a tell all expose. Perhaps it was intended to be ironic; it certainly can't be seen as serious journalism. Where were the editor and his blue pencil?
Judging from all the pointless remarks from readers it had no impact. The best replies came from those condemning false equivalency in the media.
The NY Times' coverage of Trump has been tough and thorough. Let's hope the Democrats are reading it.
Caution: Donald Trump and the Republican Party are not the same thing.
Judging from all the pointless remarks from readers it had no impact. The best replies came from those condemning false equivalency in the media.
The NY Times' coverage of Trump has been tough and thorough. Let's hope the Democrats are reading it.
Caution: Donald Trump and the Republican Party are not the same thing.
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But they are. As long as there is no rebellion against Trump by his party, they are one and the same.
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What transformation? It's just the circumstances that have changed. Partisanship was endemic before in both parties and it still is. Endemic and dumb, unless your goal is to polarize so that you can polarize by making the other guy look bad. Forget that Obama was deporter-in-chief, pro-TPP. Everything the Republicans do is evil, and the Democrats, well, nobody's perfect but at least they're trying. Please.
E pluribus unum. Ring a bell? Stop hating Trump and try to help him. Stop focusing only on the boondoggles, and support some of the better ideas. Like Congressional term limits. How about it, Dems? What's the good reason not to be all over that one? Oh, right.. keeping your job, so you can be paid to be the new, petty party of No and blame everything on Trump and the Republicans.
Being the party of no stinks. The Democratic party stinks, it's just so used to the smell it doesn't know anymore.
Perez... really. That's really going to speak to the up-and-coming base of America's young people.
I left the Democratic party. It's washed up. It's been washed up. I'm happy to join the Green party, a party that's blossoming around the world, that actually has a spine, a message, a positive vision. I'd love it if the Dems did transform. But I'm not waiting anymore or listening to the tired rhetoric. See ya.
E pluribus unum. Ring a bell? Stop hating Trump and try to help him. Stop focusing only on the boondoggles, and support some of the better ideas. Like Congressional term limits. How about it, Dems? What's the good reason not to be all over that one? Oh, right.. keeping your job, so you can be paid to be the new, petty party of No and blame everything on Trump and the Republicans.
Being the party of no stinks. The Democratic party stinks, it's just so used to the smell it doesn't know anymore.
Perez... really. That's really going to speak to the up-and-coming base of America's young people.
I left the Democratic party. It's washed up. It's been washed up. I'm happy to join the Green party, a party that's blossoming around the world, that actually has a spine, a message, a positive vision. I'd love it if the Dems did transform. But I'm not waiting anymore or listening to the tired rhetoric. See ya.
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Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren...and so many more: these hyper-partisan Democrats are pathetic and self-serving.
I cannot identify with Republicans, either.
Signed: A woman without a party.
I cannot identify with Republicans, either.
Signed: A woman without a party.
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The day after the election, I asked myself, how could this have happened? At the the time, I thought the answer lies somewhere in the area where the people who showed up to vote for Obama in 2008 and 2012 did NOT show up in 2016. If they had shown up in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina like they did in 2008 and 2012 we would not be having this conversation. But the simple fact remains, these voters stayed home. Why? The democrats need to go to these districts and ask those folks who did not vote, why they did not vote and what lessons can be learned from these voters. I believe from that foundation, if we are true to ourselves, the Democratic Party can begin to form a new way forward.
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Basically, the Democrats are using opposition to President Trump to try to unify a party which is leaderless (as the opposition party usually is in the US) and being pulled apart ideologically. Despite the comments here, Republicans in opposition to Obama did compromise on many issues, thus Planned Parenthood was never defunded. But the Democrats have shown no interest in compromising on anything, and the voters will punish that. It's just a question of how many Senate seats they will lose in 2018 and how many electoral votes President Trump will win in his successful re-election bid.
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How easy it is to be the party of "No." Effective government takes brains, ideas and determination. The Republicans, as we are finding out, are deficit in all 3 categories. Now the Democrats, instead of doing something, have chosen to do nothing. Lazy way out and a big excuse for sitting around like spoiled children. We seriously need a 3rd party.
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Just stop. It hasn't even begun yet. There is a difference between obstructing everything to insure that 1 person fails, than obstructing movements that will harm the environment, poison our children and let people die because they were born poor.
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I love it, I love it! The Dems are showing spunk!!
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I Love it also. Let's also make our own narrative. The unifying narrative. That shows our spunk, our caring, our intelligence and our generosity. This is where great ideas brew. Something like Tolerance, Strength, Unity, Truth, Justice.
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WE got relatively fat and happy until the manipulated market crash in 2008 that cost one-half of Americans one-half their 401K money and one half the value of their homes.
People lost their jobs and savings. The Robber Barons had outsourced most of the meaningful jobs and managed to break labor unions across America.
Many of us woke up but not before the Robber Barons had bought up and destroyed much of the "free press" that kept us informed and built their alternate news source - the "free internet", which they own and control.
Now we have the Robber Barons trying to implement their mafia-model government in the United States of America.
The Good News is that Grassroots America is shouting OUR disapproval in every way in every segment of society. The Sleeping Giant has awakened and SHE is furious that The Con Don and his Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron/ Radical Religion Good Old Boys' Party/ Cabal is trying to destroy OUR lives and those of our children and grandchildren with their attempts to use OUR National Taxpayer Treasure - and lives - for their international power struggle.
Will what's left of OUR Free Press help us stop them or go along to try to stay on top? Will socially conscious lawyers figure out how WE can bring a class-action civil lawsuit to purge this corrupt regime from OUR governments at every level by clawing back the treasure they stole from us?
Will WE decide democracy is worth saving in America?
People lost their jobs and savings. The Robber Barons had outsourced most of the meaningful jobs and managed to break labor unions across America.
Many of us woke up but not before the Robber Barons had bought up and destroyed much of the "free press" that kept us informed and built their alternate news source - the "free internet", which they own and control.
Now we have the Robber Barons trying to implement their mafia-model government in the United States of America.
The Good News is that Grassroots America is shouting OUR disapproval in every way in every segment of society. The Sleeping Giant has awakened and SHE is furious that The Con Don and his Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron/ Radical Religion Good Old Boys' Party/ Cabal is trying to destroy OUR lives and those of our children and grandchildren with their attempts to use OUR National Taxpayer Treasure - and lives - for their international power struggle.
Will what's left of OUR Free Press help us stop them or go along to try to stay on top? Will socially conscious lawyers figure out how WE can bring a class-action civil lawsuit to purge this corrupt regime from OUR governments at every level by clawing back the treasure they stole from us?
Will WE decide democracy is worth saving in America?
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"Republicans from Reagan to the Tea Party broadly believed in reducing government"
There needs to be some clarification here. Republicans PREACH the idea of reducing government, but, at least in my lifetime, have always increased the branch of government that is the MOST bloated; (the military!)
Ronald Reagan warned of bureaucrats saying "We're from the government and we're here to help you" but that's exactly the message of his administration sent to death-squad regimes in Central America, and Islamic extremists in Afghanistan. (Just google Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who was one of the top recipients of "government help" during the Reagan years for just one great example of how our tax dollars were squandered on the Republican clock).
George Bush invaded Panama to oust a drug lord who had received millions of dollars of "government help" and his son George W. Bush started not one but two absurdly expensive and absurdly failed wars that threaten to drag on forever.
To quote Rosa Brooks from her excellent book (Tales from the Pentagon) "Once, war was a temporary state of affairs—a violent but brief interlude between times of peace. Today, America’s wars are everywhere and forever". The troll in the White House is now proposing a huge increase in- guess what? Yup, military spending.
Please stop insulting us by suggesting that Republicans favor smaller government: They don't.
There needs to be some clarification here. Republicans PREACH the idea of reducing government, but, at least in my lifetime, have always increased the branch of government that is the MOST bloated; (the military!)
Ronald Reagan warned of bureaucrats saying "We're from the government and we're here to help you" but that's exactly the message of his administration sent to death-squad regimes in Central America, and Islamic extremists in Afghanistan. (Just google Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who was one of the top recipients of "government help" during the Reagan years for just one great example of how our tax dollars were squandered on the Republican clock).
George Bush invaded Panama to oust a drug lord who had received millions of dollars of "government help" and his son George W. Bush started not one but two absurdly expensive and absurdly failed wars that threaten to drag on forever.
To quote Rosa Brooks from her excellent book (Tales from the Pentagon) "Once, war was a temporary state of affairs—a violent but brief interlude between times of peace. Today, America’s wars are everywhere and forever". The troll in the White House is now proposing a huge increase in- guess what? Yup, military spending.
Please stop insulting us by suggesting that Republicans favor smaller government: They don't.
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You clearly have not looked at the government's budget in decades if you believe the military is the largest portion of it.
Democrats should not wear the yoke of the Party of No. This is not leadership, it's taking a position without offering an option. Give the Republican's options to select from and make them declare that there are no decent options.
Voters are not interested in hearing No, not interested in government employee furloughs, and certainly not interested in shutting government down. All this means to voters is that when we need government services and make a phone call or submit paper work, there's no one there to answer our healthcare, Medicare, social security, or disability questions. Democrats should not all themselves to be a party to rolling back services to citizens when we need them the most.
While the bannon administration is purposefully not back-filling vacant positions, firing career federal employees, not filing cabinet positions, it is we citizens that get the short end of the service stick.
Voters are not interested in hearing No, not interested in government employee furloughs, and certainly not interested in shutting government down. All this means to voters is that when we need government services and make a phone call or submit paper work, there's no one there to answer our healthcare, Medicare, social security, or disability questions. Democrats should not all themselves to be a party to rolling back services to citizens when we need them the most.
While the bannon administration is purposefully not back-filling vacant positions, firing career federal employees, not filing cabinet positions, it is we citizens that get the short end of the service stick.
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There is so much to counter with a pro-democracy, vehement "No!"
The GOP is now the party of the two scams.
The Trump presidential scam, day by day, exposes itself for what it always was: a Plutocrat's successful effort, by manipulating his white working-class supporters, to occupy the Office of the Presidency in order to enrich himself, his family and his fellow Plutocrats.
The NYT editorial "Mr. Ryan's Plan to Revert, Regress and Deregulate" depicts the less obvious, and therefore more insidious, scam. The NYT editors note therein that the 57 pages of House Speaker Paul Ryan's economic agenda "boil down to one idea: Roll back hundreds of federal regulations that protect consumers, investors, employees, borrowers, students and the environment." They also note that the rationale for this agenda relies on premises which are readily discredited.
The current crown jewel of the Ryan agenda is Ryan"care"/Trump"care". This health-non-care plan embodies a total rejection of President Trump's promises to his working-class supporters.
Next: Social Insecurity and Medi-Non-Care?
Mr. Ryan works diligently to realize the GOP's donor's goals: deregulate; repeal and deface Obamacare; unravel the remnants of the New Deal safety net via privatization; reduce taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations; invent new tax breaks that favor the wealthy; etc.
Today: Gilded Age Plutocracy? Tomorrow: Putinesque authoritarian kleptocracy?
The GOP is now the party of the two scams.
The Trump presidential scam, day by day, exposes itself for what it always was: a Plutocrat's successful effort, by manipulating his white working-class supporters, to occupy the Office of the Presidency in order to enrich himself, his family and his fellow Plutocrats.
The NYT editorial "Mr. Ryan's Plan to Revert, Regress and Deregulate" depicts the less obvious, and therefore more insidious, scam. The NYT editors note therein that the 57 pages of House Speaker Paul Ryan's economic agenda "boil down to one idea: Roll back hundreds of federal regulations that protect consumers, investors, employees, borrowers, students and the environment." They also note that the rationale for this agenda relies on premises which are readily discredited.
The current crown jewel of the Ryan agenda is Ryan"care"/Trump"care". This health-non-care plan embodies a total rejection of President Trump's promises to his working-class supporters.
Next: Social Insecurity and Medi-Non-Care?
Mr. Ryan works diligently to realize the GOP's donor's goals: deregulate; repeal and deface Obamacare; unravel the remnants of the New Deal safety net via privatization; reduce taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations; invent new tax breaks that favor the wealthy; etc.
Today: Gilded Age Plutocracy? Tomorrow: Putinesque authoritarian kleptocracy?
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For as long as it takes, vote NO. Obstruct, delay, hunker down. The party of Chaos and Revenge will never respect liberals anyway. It doesn't matter whether the Democratic Party caves in or compromises or opposes. So, I say OPPOSE. Every time. We will never get their respect, but we don't need it. What we do need is to defeat Republicans ASAP.
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We don't need a deal maker.
We need a fire brand.
We don't need Chuck Schumer.
We need a fire brand.
We don't need Chuck Schumer.
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I'm not sure that the Democrats have said "no" to anything yet. It seems that the Republicans are so split, divided, and fractured that the Democrats haven't had a chance.
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During the primaries, Bernie Sanders opposed Obamacare.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430045/bernie-sanders-single-payer...
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430045/bernie-sanders-single-payer...
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The progressive wing has always disliked Obamacare. We want to put health insurance companies out of business, not give them more customers. Single Payer is the only logical method for providing health insurance. Obamacare with a Public Option was an acceptable compromise for us. Sens Baucus and Nelson have much to answer for in refusing to include a Public Option in Obamacare , but to mischaracterize Sander's opposition to Obamacare as being against a government role in health care ( As I believe is your premise) is just wrong.
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No, he supported phasing it out in favor of Medicare-for-All. In fact it's fair to say that without Bernie Sanders, the ACA might not have passed -- Harry Reid tapped him, specifically, to win over skeptical liberal Senators after the public option was gutted. He succeeded, mostly thanks to the doubling of funding for FQHCs that the ACA included.
But hey, I guess I should expect alternative facts from a reader of National Review.
But hey, I guess I should expect alternative facts from a reader of National Review.
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Why shouldn't he have opposed it? It was written by insurance industry attorneys and was a Republican idea in the first place. Unlike Obama and Clinton, Sanders is not a middle of the road Republican.
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We Democrats are not fighting for policies or power. We are fighting for fundamental values: for decency, humanity, and compassion for all of our fellow citizens; for respect for our hallowed institutions; for knowledge, truth, and science. We will not compromise on such principles, and we will not allow those who represent us to do so either.
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lol...you're fighting for someone to subsidize your 'fundamental' values.
In fairness, he should be referred to as a so-called president.
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The Democratic Party, the party of no; no borders, no vetting of refugees, no enforcement of immigration laws..... We get the picture!
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No ID checks to prevent voter fraud, no action on sanctuary cities, just no! no! no! The party of two year olds, who act out violently to prevent opposing views from being heard, and who leave a mess behind them.
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There's a job picking tomatoes waiting for you, buddy. Go make America great.
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Betting big on a losing strategy got them here if I recall correctly. But I'm sure you guys can and will explain how it's the Russians fault.
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Oh Enlightened one, what would you suggest? My real plan is we should revive the Liberal Republicans. Where is nelson Rockefeller when we need him...
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In 2018 their No will mean even less
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This is the most ridiculous false comparison that I've seen yet. The Democrats are the party of opposition right now. And what they're opposing is a regime that's on the verge of a dictatorship. The Republicans opposed anything and everything that Obama proposed, no matter how good for the country and no matter how good for its citizens. At some point, the false equivalence in the media needs to stop, or -- seriously -- we're doomed.
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Note to Democrats: Bring gun to gun fight, not knife. Say 100 times until it becomes instinctual.
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You gloat now, but I think you'll find we got the message.
When Obama was inaugurated Republicans vowed to object to and obstruct whatever Obama tried to do, and that's how they spent the following 8 years. Now it's our turn to do the same. It Really Is That Simple.
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lol...the 3-year olds (collective left) have lost the argument and now turn to violence. It is that simple.
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All the magazine in my paper had yesterday were the 25 biggest songs of the year. I'm glad I came upon this online.
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We're not the party of no. We're the party of stop, think, and make it better (not worse)
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Gotta stop the bleeding before healing the patient
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Say no to the terror that Extremist Republicans are unleashing on the American people.
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Republicans taught us that there is no political price to be paid for being the Party of No. The newspaper Gods may not like it, but let's face it that's not fatal to Dems' political futures any more than it was to the Repubs. Being the Party of No elevated Republicans to take control of every facet of government. The NYTs wants Dems to continue to be pragmatic Polyannas who hope the Repubs will play ball nicely if the Dems lead the way. As if. At what point does the NYTs get a clue?
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There was no political price to be paid because Obama acted without societal consensus. How many votes did the Democrats lose over social issues like a constitutional right for a confused boy to shower in the girls' locker room? More than they gained.
Since their loss in the last election, the Dems have become the party of Rude and Ugly. No thanks.
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That's hilarious considering republicans are going full deplorable nationalist.
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Never forget: Turnabout is fair play.
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The Republicans have been the party of the hated filled and ignorant since last millennium. They will destroy the Republic all whilst cheered on by the new lumpenprolitariat.
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The Democratic Party should embrace and promote the progressive agenda aggressively. There is a thirst for bread and butter working class politics, or the politics of dollars and sense, as Bernie Sanders proved.
1) Medicaid/Medicare for all-- as a public option, buy-in program or single-payer
2) Raise the fed minimum wage to AT LEAST $10/hr.
3) Protect the water we drink, the food we eat, and the air we breathe.
4) Make Education Affordable Again!
5) Infrastructure creates jobs.
6) Diplomacy first.
If the Democrats push the basics, they can push the Republicans out of the conversation. Democrats, you're the party that believes government has a purpose. Go home to your states and your districts, lead the movement where the voters vote. Let the Republicans pass their little schemes alone and start mobilizing for 2018. We need you.
I really don't want Democrats in DC right now. I want them to boycott the entire bloody affair. I don't want them to just say no. I want them to be absent on Capitol Hill. You work for the people who brung you. You want to get the attention of the press. Don't show up on Capitol Hill on Monday. That'll get their attention.
Go home. Stay home. Make the Republicans eat this, or is your Dupont Circle pied-a-terre too cozy?
1) Medicaid/Medicare for all-- as a public option, buy-in program or single-payer
2) Raise the fed minimum wage to AT LEAST $10/hr.
3) Protect the water we drink, the food we eat, and the air we breathe.
4) Make Education Affordable Again!
5) Infrastructure creates jobs.
6) Diplomacy first.
If the Democrats push the basics, they can push the Republicans out of the conversation. Democrats, you're the party that believes government has a purpose. Go home to your states and your districts, lead the movement where the voters vote. Let the Republicans pass their little schemes alone and start mobilizing for 2018. We need you.
I really don't want Democrats in DC right now. I want them to boycott the entire bloody affair. I don't want them to just say no. I want them to be absent on Capitol Hill. You work for the people who brung you. You want to get the attention of the press. Don't show up on Capitol Hill on Monday. That'll get their attention.
Go home. Stay home. Make the Republicans eat this, or is your Dupont Circle pied-a-terre too cozy?
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Kat: how do you pay for those things? There aren't enough rich to soak for it. Deficit spending bites you in the end.
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As I see it, the Democratic party has become anti-worker, pro-free trade, pro big capital, the party of marginal social and racial slogans rather than dealing with the growing wealth caused by globalization. It is the party which wants to flood the nation with foreigners and thus depress the prevailing wages of Americans.
It champions Russophobia and Islamophilia.
This Democratic party is a stranger to me. I think it is a stranger to many.
It champions Russophobia and Islamophilia.
This Democratic party is a stranger to me. I think it is a stranger to many.
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Democrats go where the money is. But so do republicans. At least the democrats try to toss us some scraps along the way.
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You can consider supporting progressive movements within the Democratic Party, like the Justice Democrats.
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The Democratic Party is about improving life for all Americans. Has been and always will be. The Republican Party has been about making those who have wealth and power lust for more and make it easier those who want to use their power and privilege to bully and oppress those who look, think and act differently from them.
Americans chose poorly in 2016. In fact, no electoral choices in our history were worse. While the travel ban was a disaster, as has been the swamp creatures Trump had appointed, taking health insurance away from 20 million with Trumpcare will knock the Party off the rails. If the Hillary and Bernie people can resolve their difference, we will be fine.
Americans chose poorly in 2016. In fact, no electoral choices in our history were worse. While the travel ban was a disaster, as has been the swamp creatures Trump had appointed, taking health insurance away from 20 million with Trumpcare will knock the Party off the rails. If the Hillary and Bernie people can resolve their difference, we will be fine.
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'The Democratic Party is about improving life for all Americans'...by appropriating what's not yours through fascist policies to satiate your base's increasingly voracious appetite for free stuff, the 'lifeblood' of socialism.
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If you think that the Democratic party still stands for working people, then you will never understand why Trump won. If this myopia continues among Democrats, the party is doomed.
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The Democratic Party sold out to corporate interests. Not as thoroughly or bald-facedly as the Republicans, but they did. That's why Hillary couldn't draw the Bernie supporters. If they support
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Since President's Trump election, the political divide has both deepened and widened. However it is unfair and inaccurate to state that the polemics is a result of his presidency. It is a fact that Trump was elected because Hillary could not keep the Obama coalition, white college educated women and the white working class. If Secretary Clinton were elected, gridlock and vehement partisanship would be the norm. The problem is with the electorate! It is the perception of us against them; and contrary political opinions are viewed as unacceptable. The art of compromise is viewed as collaborating with the enemy and is replaced by the craft of intransigence. Senator Summer, who had accepted campaign funds from Trump, has succumbed to the alt left and must oppose any agenda that would benefit the democrats chance of reclaiming the working class, primarily the infrastructure bill! It is unfortunate but politics and politicians have replaced what is good for America with what is good for their re-election bids.
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The Republicans became the party of NO under Clinton (remember when Newt Gingrich and his cronies shut down the government? I do) and escalated their tactics under Obama. They have made it clear that there is no room for compromise. At this point, I would prefer to just part ways. The red states (or parts of states) can't survive without subsidies from blue states. And working for affordable health care for all is not "alt-left". If the Republicans were really conservatives, they would be interested in reigning in health care costs, but they are deluded and amoral disciples of Ayn Rand who get elected by pandering to Evangelicals, who are NOT CHRISTIAN. It is also not "alt-left" to listen to scientists on climate change or to believe that public schools should be run for the good of the public. If Republicans wanted to do something about immigration, they would target employers who routinely hire large amounts of illegal immigrants, not kids who were brought here as minors.
In other words, the Dems are clinging to Obama, a man who is now ineligible to ever run for president, a faith that's lost a thousand seats.
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Obama changed the country. Do you see republicans trying to repeal guaranteed issue or the other protections? Democrats sacrificed massively but we got something for the American people on return. The pendulum will swing back, really quickly with policies like the AHCA.
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"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! " -- Mario Savio, Berkeley, 1964
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It's a bit late to pick up the pieces after running Hillary for president. Dumb move ...
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It's time we fight smarter and harder.. Why not say OK to all of the GOP ridiculous demands and ask for something in return?
1. You want prayer in public schools? FINE- but increase the education budget 40% and build new ones.
2. You want to overturn Roe v Wade? FINE- but single payer healthcare coverage for all and more money to Planned Parenthood for sex education.
3. You want to abolish gay marriage? FINE- but paid maternity leave for everyone and subsidized child day care
4. You want to eliminate the Consumer Protection Agency? FINE- but make it easier for people to repay student loans and/or borrow money from the banks easier at reasonable rates.
Wild ideas - but if we keep saying NO - then all of the above will happen anyway with NOTHING to gain in return.
1. You want prayer in public schools? FINE- but increase the education budget 40% and build new ones.
2. You want to overturn Roe v Wade? FINE- but single payer healthcare coverage for all and more money to Planned Parenthood for sex education.
3. You want to abolish gay marriage? FINE- but paid maternity leave for everyone and subsidized child day care
4. You want to eliminate the Consumer Protection Agency? FINE- but make it easier for people to repay student loans and/or borrow money from the banks easier at reasonable rates.
Wild ideas - but if we keep saying NO - then all of the above will happen anyway with NOTHING to gain in return.
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Because you won't get it.
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The republicans are focused on steamrolling democrats. They aren't reaching out for compromise.
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Any attempt to negotiate no matter how foolish that may be will be considered a sign of weakness and they will double down yet again. Trump will be there saying to the GOP ,,,uh, yeah, uh fine by me, what you say... I got such good ratings on the Appprentice...
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In almost every congressional election where the opposition party makes big gains, the driving factor is the level of anger (and corresponding turnout) among that parties' base. This was so in 1994, 2006, 2010 and 2014. 2018 will be a referendum on Trump, not on the Democrats. If enough of the Democrats base are angry and turn out to vote, the Democrats will gain. If not, and Trump's base is still both solid and highly motivated, the GOP will stay in control.
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I feel like both parties are dead. While Trump is powerful, he isn't a traditional Republican. Reagan Republicanism is dead. Many, many people who voted for Trump didn't vote for Paul Ryan's small government. They voted for government supplying them with social security. They voted for a man who promised not to take away Mecdicare. They voted for a man who promised "Healthcare for everyone." They voted for government to intervene to bring back their jobs. And giant infrastructure spending. This doesn't sound like the Republicanism of my lifetime.
And of course, the Democrats have their own problems. So it seems neither party, in the traditional sense, is at all strong. Maybe we should dump both labels and see what emerges. It just seems dumb to argue which party is stronger. Better to look at which (real, not rhetorical) responses to issues have the most resonance to voters.
And of course, the Democrats have their own problems. So it seems neither party, in the traditional sense, is at all strong. Maybe we should dump both labels and see what emerges. It just seems dumb to argue which party is stronger. Better to look at which (real, not rhetorical) responses to issues have the most resonance to voters.
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The real bummer is that Trump promised all those things to get elected but we can see already with his agency cuts, Medicaid cuts and tax cuts for him and his rich buddies that he won't be making good on any of his promises.
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"They voted for a man who promised Healthcare for everyone." Too bad that's not what we got!
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Once Republicans, who don't believe in science and facts took power EVERYONE should be in the party of NO!
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Once Republicans, who don't believe in science and facts took power EVERYONE should be in the party of NO!
Well, once the democrats became the party of "no borders", they lost me and many more longtime members.
Well, once the democrats became the party of "no borders", they lost me and many more longtime members.
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Kow-towing to subaltern, sexual deviants whom already offer prohibitive Democratic support--and have no other voting options even if you regard them the way Kennedy handled intellectual Liberals in 1960 Election--while condescending to potentially reachable white working class whites resulted in electing President Trump.
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Typing error: meant "white working class voters".
Democrats support human beings.
The GOP supports their wallets.
The GOP supports their wallets.
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Nope! The Democrats mostly support non-working minorities and illegal immigrants who through the government are stealing hard-earned money out of my wallet. This mindset is why Hilary lost the election and why this business-owning liberal will never vote Democratic again. Just go protest somewhere and leave me alone. I am trying to make money that the government will take away from me.
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* laughing *
There is Trump standing there with a smoking gun that has Putin's initials engraved on it in cyrilic and we wonder whether or not the Democrats should cooperate with him? The response should be: Not one Trump command should be considered until he is cleared of all charges of foreign involvement in his election.
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For 8 years I have watched the Republican leadership purposely obstruct a decent competent President Obama. They did this even when they hurt our country. I am now watching Republicans totally ignore Pres. Trump's impeachable behavior. Trump disregards the Constitution by his numerous conflicts of interest. There are indications that he could have been involved in the Russian attacks on our election. He has made numerous attacks on the free press. So please don't compare us. The attack on our democracy is real, and since we can't count on Republicans to hold Trump accountable, we expect this of the Democrats.
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Is there a better way to fight the enemies of progress? And how does one even do that when 'progress' to some means fairness for all, and fairness for some to others? How does a party fight a percentage that actually believe, whether silently and secretly or aloud and proudly, in white supremacy? Should the party fight it quietly, tip-toeing about? What should one do when white supremacy is knocking at the door? Invite it in to talk about it? Is there a rational conversation to be had with hatred?
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Amare: nonsense. There is no significant white supremacy in the US. But you think people should be afraid of being white, people should be ashamed of being white males, people should value the feelings of favored minorities over that of those who are not. And even given all of that, whites should recognize their privilege. Denigrating the majority is not a ticket to winning elections. Obama did not run on that in 2008 or 2012. Good luck as the Democratic Party fades into irrelevance.
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Is it really the "new" Democratic party of no ?
On the 3rd day of his presidency, January 23, 2009 Mr. Obama told a Republican delegation asking that 20% of the stimulus bill should include support for small businesses:
"Elections have consequences. And at the end of the day, I won. So I think on that one I trump you.”
That is NO
While understandable politically, small business owners tend to vote Republican, and the stimulus plan was formulated by the Democrats that controlled both Houses to shore up core Democratic constituencies, that is still no.
On the 3rd day of his presidency, January 23, 2009 Mr. Obama told a Republican delegation asking that 20% of the stimulus bill should include support for small businesses:
"Elections have consequences. And at the end of the day, I won. So I think on that one I trump you.”
That is NO
While understandable politically, small business owners tend to vote Republican, and the stimulus plan was formulated by the Democrats that controlled both Houses to shore up core Democratic constituencies, that is still no.
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I follow your logic... vendetta has been associated with human history for a long time. However, left alone, vendetta results in an endless cycle of destruction and inertia. The only losers in a system of governance characterized by unchecked vendetta are the citizens.
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While I have been a life long Democrat, the party has now lost me for the time being. We know what they are against, but cannot communicate what they are for. I hear no affirmative positions, only oppositions.
Democrats are in big trouble in the 2018 Senate election. They are trying to defend 24 Senate seats. Many in states that voted Trump.
This party went far too Wall Street, far too Clinton, and condoned debate cheating by appointing disgraced Donna Brazile, fired from CNN for passing possible debate questions in advance to the Clinton campaign, to its interim Chairmanship. This followed the coronation of Hillary by Superdelegates and a party chair formerly affiliated with Clinton's prior campaign. I am afraid the dog food became too rancid for this dog to stay at the dog bowl.
Democrats are in big trouble in the 2018 Senate election. They are trying to defend 24 Senate seats. Many in states that voted Trump.
This party went far too Wall Street, far too Clinton, and condoned debate cheating by appointing disgraced Donna Brazile, fired from CNN for passing possible debate questions in advance to the Clinton campaign, to its interim Chairmanship. This followed the coronation of Hillary by Superdelegates and a party chair formerly affiliated with Clinton's prior campaign. I am afraid the dog food became too rancid for this dog to stay at the dog bowl.
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I had no idea of what Mrs Clinton was for. I didn't have the cash to be invited to any speeches or private donor meetings.
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Mrs. Clinton ran on a platform that Mr. Trump was a terrible person, that his supporters were a basket of deplorables, and that the details were irrelevant. The Democratic Party is following the path she blazed, which leads straight over a cliff.
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If you want to boil down the essence of both parties ;
~ republicans are against things
~ Democrats are against negative things
So now that republicans are in complete power and want to do away with things ( which is a supreme negative ), then of course Democrats are going to say no to that.
It's that press' ubiquitous false equivalency showing again.
~ republicans are against things
~ Democrats are against negative things
So now that republicans are in complete power and want to do away with things ( which is a supreme negative ), then of course Democrats are going to say no to that.
It's that press' ubiquitous false equivalency showing again.
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I have spoken with many of the poor loons who were so angry at Mrs Clinton and ignorant of how American elections for President work, that millions admitted they simply "refused to vote out of pique"!!!!!! Think of it! 10 million or so Democrtic voters, either voting for Trump, writing in for Sanders, or voting Green or Libertarian, thinking that their votes were being stolen from them by the "evil Mrs Clinton & Wall St.". They believed everything the Russians, Wikileaks and Trump's propagandists said. Not a one understood why Bernie Sanders was out plugging for Mrs Clinton! Apparently, millions of Democrats were under the impression that the Presidential nomination is a free for all in which the toughest liberal whose supporters are the youngest, most naive and scream and curse loudest, automatically gets the nomination.(as in '68'-'72') After two terms of Obama, these dopes thought they owned the Presidency and no one could take it away. This is Pretty much what a lot of Republicans felt about Bill Clinton in 1992. They were so used to GOP Presidents, they felt
because Bill was a minority President, that he wasn't a "real President" and had he run against GHW Bush alone, he'd have lost, which may well be so.
But the point is no one owns or controls the office- and this time too many liberals assumed there couldn't be any goin back right.
And, so, here we are. Right, Again . . .
because Bill was a minority President, that he wasn't a "real President" and had he run against GHW Bush alone, he'd have lost, which may well be so.
But the point is no one owns or controls the office- and this time too many liberals assumed there couldn't be any goin back right.
And, so, here we are. Right, Again . . .
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Sounds like you would have supported Boss Tweed, because at least he got the Court House built.
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Schumer voted contrary to Byrd's wise advocacy, and in favor of Cheney and Bush's sleepwalking disaster in Iraq.
Schumer sided with Netanyahu and against Obama.
Schumer backed more years of Clinton and misleading expedience while opposing Sanders and principle.
There is no way he could ever offset now the damage he helped create by these disastrous and cowardly blunders.
Three strikes. He's out, no matter how long the commercial break lasts.
Schumer sided with Netanyahu and against Obama.
Schumer backed more years of Clinton and misleading expedience while opposing Sanders and principle.
There is no way he could ever offset now the damage he helped create by these disastrous and cowardly blunders.
Three strikes. He's out, no matter how long the commercial break lasts.
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Democrats! Where are you? We need leadership, we need people to crisscross the country offering a better vision. Don't wait until the next election cycle.
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The Democrats can't win at the polls, so this is their new tactic. They've lost thousands of seats across the country and the states where they maintain control of the political process are on the outer fringes. You can thank the Obama machine for this failure to connect to everyday Americans...
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Ah,but we DID win at the polls--by 3 million votes. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Phil: You did not get a majority, and Trump plus Johnson got more than Clinton plus Stein. All leading by 3 million votes got Clinton is a participation trophy, which I gather you value.
Well if you won, why isn't Hillary President? Oh yeah, you lost in the vote that counted; the Electoral College. If the popular vote would have mattered, Trump would have run a different campaign. And he's have still won...
The reason this is not going to work is because of what was said early in the article, with Democrats trying to figure out whether to move left, move right, stay in the middle, etc., and them Mrs. Warren saying she wants to build a policy between free trade and nationalist protectionism. What does that even mean? The author opined on what the Democrats "stand for" while it is obvious that even they don't know what they stand for. The tea party, for better or worse, knew what they stood for, and that's why their insurgency worked, and why this new party of no thing will not work did the Democrats. You have to be "for" something, too.
And it doesn't help that Schumer is still in the 19th century quoting Emma Lazarus. He's not dealing with contemporary reality. It has nothing to do with Emma, who we all love. But that was her time, not our time!
And it doesn't help that Schumer is still in the 19th century quoting Emma Lazarus. He's not dealing with contemporary reality. It has nothing to do with Emma, who we all love. But that was her time, not our time!
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Don't fool your self. The Tea Party for was funded and organized by Koch backed right wing organizations, they were controlled top down, all well documented in a variety of publications, that is why 'their insurgency worked'. The Dems need to get more hispanics and blacks registered and to the polls to thwart gerry mandered districts and overcome voter ID laws. Forget catering to the white working class. I don't think the Dems should mould party ideology toward them. If they ever get out of their fog and realize the republicans are not objectively representing them, then perhaps they will realize who will stand up for them.
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I know all about the Koch brothers and the tea party. But when you say the Democrats should not "cater" to the "white working class" exactly when in 2016 did they do that? In fact, as far as I can tell, those were the "deplorables" Mrs. Clinton do glibly dismissed on her way to defeat. So, if you think so little of the aspirations and needs of the majority of the working people in this country, don't try to tell me you're a Democrat. Trump is more attuned to the needs of the people people than you are.
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No. Trump was better at feeding those voters the bull they wanted to eat, and those voters cleaned their plates.
Don the Con, patron saint of The Ones Born Every Minute.
Don the Con, patron saint of The Ones Born Every Minute.
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The commenters here sound like they have an idea of what policies to get behind. Ask any Democrat what they stand for you get pablum. We fight for equal opportunity blah blah blah. Bernie Sanders has all the good policies. Let him push these Corporate Democrats around to make them think right.
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I feel sad for the Democrat party in 2017. "Look what they done to my song ma"
The Democrat party of JFK and MLK has long been lost to the extreme left wing of Hollywood, the media and academia.
The Democrat party of JFK and MLK has long been lost to the extreme left wing of Hollywood, the media and academia.
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The Democrats lost because the electorate who voted for Trump were seduced by promises of Trump, not realizing those promises were little more than outright lies or exaggerations. I won't call those voters, for the most part, 'dopes' but do believed they were' duped' and are about to see how wrong they were.
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What you call "extreme left" would simply be mainstream in the era of JFK and MLK. It's obvious you are either too young or were in a coma to appreciate the left and right of that time
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merc,
I believe that it is you, that is the dope here. People voted for Trump to prevent the corrupt "open borders" Clintons from power!
I believe that it is you, that is the dope here. People voted for Trump to prevent the corrupt "open borders" Clintons from power!
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"Republicans had in recent decades outperformed Democrats at this kind of dispersed, ground-level activism. This was in part because the party was more geographically distributed than the Democrats, who were increasingly concentrated in urban areas and interior suburbs. But Democrats had also historically relied heavily on unions and urban party machines to reach voters — a support apparatus that receded sharply by the late 20th century. The Republicans, who never had such luxuries, assiduously cultivated their own grass roots — an effort whose success has contributed to the deep erosion of the Democrats’ presence in state legislatures (down 23 percent) and governor’s mansions (down nearly 45 percent) since 2008."
For quite some time Democrats have been bringing a knife to a gun fight. Populism is a current buzz word, but with the internet and social media, the old ways of politics are forever changed. It is time to jettison reliance on traditional mechanisms of influence and "light the fires" as the metaphor this article suggests. It is time to abandon the stodgy union halls and black tie donor parties and take again to the streets. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" should be the slogan of the party and a revolutionary enlightenment dedicated to overthrowing the GOP and their aristocrat elites.
For quite some time Democrats have been bringing a knife to a gun fight. Populism is a current buzz word, but with the internet and social media, the old ways of politics are forever changed. It is time to jettison reliance on traditional mechanisms of influence and "light the fires" as the metaphor this article suggests. It is time to abandon the stodgy union halls and black tie donor parties and take again to the streets. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" should be the slogan of the party and a revolutionary enlightenment dedicated to overthrowing the GOP and their aristocrat elites.
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It's time to support the unions, by which I mean rank and file, not corrupt leadership, and to get rid of illegal immigrants paid under the table for doing union work. Like either of those will ever happen.
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It was abandoning the union halls that has caused a lot of the Democrats' woes. Shop stewards have a captive audience who will be told that Democrats are better for them and why. Then, they will be taken to vote if that is necessary, including the mid-term elections which were ignored by Dems in 2010, causing half of our problems in the House due to gerrymandering.
Too many Americans are working in a service economy to brush off unions. The trick is to keep both the union bosses and the politicians honest.
Too many Americans are working in a service economy to brush off unions. The trick is to keep both the union bosses and the politicians honest.
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I asked my nephew, who is a president of a university clerical union, what was beyond the old communist labor union concept in order to attract millennials and tech workers. Sadly, he had no idea and was shockingly incurious of the possibility. It is not the Democrats who are abandoning the unions, but the unions who are abandoning the modern workplace and the realities of a globalized economy. Hitching your wagon to a old, lame, dying horse is no way to move forward.
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When the core values you believe in are under assault, of course you dig in, resist, and shout "no". How, otherwise, do you look in the mirror without feeling personal disgust and shame. The Republican raw obstructionism to the Obama administration was a mindless, reflexive tactic, with more than a vile whiff of racism and devoid of any principle. Is there really any question now that Trump et al are attempting an extremist, unprecedented, and dangerous undermining of our constitutional republic? If Americans do not resist now, in all its manifestations, then when?
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Good for Democrats. They are not opposing the people by saying no. They are in opposition of billionaires and oligarchs. They are not everyday Americans.
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In response to many posts that want democrats to go even more left and double down on policies such as single-payer etc. are not realizing that red states will grow even more red making it easy for republicans to get a filibuster-proof senate and, god forbid, 2/3rd majority required to pass constitutional amendments. Voters in the red states will continue to "vote against their interests", because they have an emotional / tribal attachment to the idea of pullimg-oneself-from-the-bootstrap and taking-responsibility-for-oneself. They will continue to believe that liberal policies on heath care and immigration helps non-white folks who are lazy and don't deserve the help. While all of this can be debunked, they are not listening. For the time being, while we wait for these voters to come around to realizing where their true interests lie, democrats need to be pragmatic and avoid following policies that will further push red state voters to vote for republicans, especially the next two years at the end of which 24 democrat senators are up for election.
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So fine. Let the red states go all the way to the bottom and pick those voters up at their nadir. When you've lost everything to medical bankruptcy, you might be willing to understand that moving health care costs onto the government and taxing multinational corporations to pay for it is actually real freedom for American citizens to survive, thrive and innovate.
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Voters in the red states will continue to "vote against their interests", ....
Please explain to us how voting against open borders and sanctuary cities, is voting against our own interests. Maybe, it's against your interests, but certainly not mine.
Please explain to us how voting against open borders and sanctuary cities, is voting against our own interests. Maybe, it's against your interests, but certainly not mine.
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To Bart Strupe in Pennsylvania:
We've never had "open borders" and we've always had "extreme vetting" of immigrants. It's very hard to immigrate to the U.S.
I teach here in PA, in a diverse school. And, my BEST students, those that study hard and work hard and are respectful....are the children of immigrants or are immigrants themselves. My honors classes are a sea of brown faces.
Is THAT what you are so afraid of?
We've never had "open borders" and we've always had "extreme vetting" of immigrants. It's very hard to immigrate to the U.S.
I teach here in PA, in a diverse school. And, my BEST students, those that study hard and work hard and are respectful....are the children of immigrants or are immigrants themselves. My honors classes are a sea of brown faces.
Is THAT what you are so afraid of?
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It's not the "party of no".
It is the Resistance.
By the People
For the People
Against Fat Cats and Greedy Businesses
It is the Resistance.
By the People
For the People
Against Fat Cats and Greedy Businesses
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I see that you are not the people.
Because I am one of the people, not a fat cat or a greedy business but one of the people, and I am against you.
Because I am one of the people, not a fat cat or a greedy business but one of the people, and I am against you.
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Diogenes,
First, what an apt handle for you. The Cynic Philosophy suits you. The real Diogenes, however, believed that living a life of virtue that was better shown in a mans actions towards his fellow men, rather than in speaking empty words to the masses.
Secondly, Those of us who are The Resistance work (even if you won't), to change things for the better for everyone.
Not just those we agree with.
In doing so, we are the spark of hope that decency, humanity and calm, reasoned, fact based discussions can be had by individuals.
You wish to stand against that? How utterly Christ Like of you.
Good to see that those who call themselves "conservatives" have finally passed beyond hiding behind the sham veil civility and decency that in the past has been used to metaphorically club down the view of others with whom you disagree.
First, what an apt handle for you. The Cynic Philosophy suits you. The real Diogenes, however, believed that living a life of virtue that was better shown in a mans actions towards his fellow men, rather than in speaking empty words to the masses.
Secondly, Those of us who are The Resistance work (even if you won't), to change things for the better for everyone.
Not just those we agree with.
In doing so, we are the spark of hope that decency, humanity and calm, reasoned, fact based discussions can be had by individuals.
You wish to stand against that? How utterly Christ Like of you.
Good to see that those who call themselves "conservatives" have finally passed beyond hiding behind the sham veil civility and decency that in the past has been used to metaphorically club down the view of others with whom you disagree.
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WE have nothing to lose. However, I would focus on the issues and stay away from Trump melodrama. He and his crew will self-destruct, I'd let the GOP deal with this debacle. Meantime the health care bill the GOP has brought to fore is a disaster as is the GOP/Trump intentional bring-the-government-function-to-a-grinding-halt. Focus on bread and butter issues. WE have nothing to loste at this point.
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I'm glad they ignored Emanuel. This is total war, not a playground fight. People's lives and futures are on the line. Democrats better resist the fascist "so-called 'president'" and investigate his ties to Russia. The Republicans broke all filibuster records and stole a SCOTUS seat. Time to take the gloves off!
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I thought that the Republicans opposition to President Obama was deliberately obstructionist and contrary to the interests of out country as a whole, and I still think that. I have been of the opinion that in response the extremely partisan policies and behaviors of the Republicans in Congress and of President Trump, Democrats should avoid just opposing everything that they do, helping when they see that it is in the interests of the country and cooperative when it serves the interests of Republicans without doing any real harm to Democrats. But seeing the kind of nonsense that Trump and the Republicans are using their power to implement, it becomes clear that Republicans are so focused upon having their way that they are indifferent to the real world consequences, and millions of people's lives will be seriously harmed. With that kind of indifference to how their behavior affects others, saying no to them unless there is proof that those behaviors will not do harm seems like the right course.
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If so, then I know just the banner to rally around. I say it's time for America to join the rest of the industrialized world and establish a single-payer, national health system. It's also high time that we re-write our Constitution to guarantee the right to care that other western constitutions guarantee to their citizens. The middle ground has been shown to not work; the Republicans have shown themselves to be dedicated to keeping America in the 18th century while the rest of the world moves into the 21st. The only way to defeat them and to move forward is to destroy their rational of a Constitution that emphasizes the rights of states over the right of commonweal. This is no dream; we can do this. Attitudes have changed, more and more people want this, and with the right leaders and the right message, we can give it to them.
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I support the "NO" response to EVDRY Republicrook proposal, most of which are designed to hurt people while making the oligarchs, and trump, richer, but Dems have also become a party of no new ideas. They're just not a anti-people, and anti-environment, as the right wing, but they are still taking big money, voted to do so as their recent meeting, and are still doing the bidding of their big donors, just like the Republicrooks. Follow Bernie, the so-called socialist. You'd be surprised how much people, in this country, LOVE social democracy, (health care, clean environment, roads and bridges, social security and medicare, equal rights for all citizens, etc.) which actually serves ALL the people, not just the wealthy and corporations.
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If it works use it. I am biased, but saying no to evil is not a bad thing.
The Democrats HAVE to oppose all Trump/GOP initiatives and nominees. People like me participated in the January Women's march for the first time in my 35 years in the U.S. I am part of Indivisible, ACLU, OFA and write, call and attend town halls regularly. As the GOP/Trump acts get even more outrageous I am heartened that the momentum is going to overturn all this in a few years. How long will Americans take dirty air, dirty water, no talent coming in to keep the economy running, no tourists to prop up the local businesses, no healthcare, terrible changes to social programs? Let us wait & see. Don't underestimate the movement that was launched by Trump's illegitimate election win!
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As a life-long Democrat fed up with Washington's politicians finally went Trump. Used to laughing at Fox News screaming bias mass media but now it seems true. After reading the latest Wikileaks people still trust our government 100% and dispute everything Trump claims on spying. Even if the new party of NO get back into the WH the republicans will surely block any of their efforts in retaliation. Bad for our country.
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Instead of using medical insurance as a means of further enriching the wealthy and hurting or killing the rest of us, perhaps the republicans could devote their time (paid for by the taxpayers) to an actual constructive activity, like devising a plan to combat climate change and then implementing it, or repairing infrastructure that imposes excess costs on people. Instead of fighting a fantasy enemy, fight a real problem that truly threatens everyone's health and welfare.
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To begin with, I don't agree with the depiction of the Democrats as a "party of no." In other words, Democratic resistance now is nothing like the "Republican party of no" of the past eight years that gave us the "party of no" phrase.
The "Republican party of no" acted in opposition to the administration of a decent and brilliant moderate Democratic president, for reasons that included racism and misogyny, and never had anything whatsoever to do with the facts or the well-being of all Americans.
On the other hand, the Democratic resistance is acting in opposition to a Republican administration (and its congressional supporters) that has violated and continues to violate every fundamental bipartisan American ideal (e.g., presidents should not lie).
Had our president-elect been a moderate Republican who was also decent and brilliant, I believe we would have seen very little Democratic resistance. In that case of course we would not for instance now be watching 15 million Americans lose health insurance and health care overnight.
The "Republican party of no" acted in opposition to the administration of a decent and brilliant moderate Democratic president, for reasons that included racism and misogyny, and never had anything whatsoever to do with the facts or the well-being of all Americans.
On the other hand, the Democratic resistance is acting in opposition to a Republican administration (and its congressional supporters) that has violated and continues to violate every fundamental bipartisan American ideal (e.g., presidents should not lie).
Had our president-elect been a moderate Republican who was also decent and brilliant, I believe we would have seen very little Democratic resistance. In that case of course we would not for instance now be watching 15 million Americans lose health insurance and health care overnight.
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Some of us don't wont the Democrat's to fight but to win without fighting. Focus on solutions, focus on teaching citizens to make smart decisions and focus on encouraging citizens to change life-styles ---- healthy citizens require less health care. We the people deserve affordable food, shelter and medicine or in other words --- fix some real world problems!
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Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom to find your voice and clarity. I'm encouraged that the Dems are finally getting there. This starts with complete resistance to the Trump/Ryan agenda but with proper messaging will morph into a powerful force for progressive change starting in 2018 and continuing to 2020. Trump is a setback and a black mark, but the left has finally awoken. This sadly was needed.
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Schumer is the epitome of old school tired Democratic policies.
Saying No to Trump isn't enough. The Democrats need to communicate a vision of how they would make people's lives better if they were in power.
Hillary totally failed to do that with her advertising that was only negative about Trump and said nothing, absolutely nothing, about how she would improve people's lives. It really shouldn't be that hard.
However, I totally feel that Schumer and Pelosi are totally entrenched in old ways of thinking and campaigning. I am disappointed that they would not step aside and let some younger, more dynamic, more charismatic people take leadership positions. I am very afraid the Democrats will be the party of No for 8 more years.
Saying No to Trump isn't enough. The Democrats need to communicate a vision of how they would make people's lives better if they were in power.
Hillary totally failed to do that with her advertising that was only negative about Trump and said nothing, absolutely nothing, about how she would improve people's lives. It really shouldn't be that hard.
However, I totally feel that Schumer and Pelosi are totally entrenched in old ways of thinking and campaigning. I am disappointed that they would not step aside and let some younger, more dynamic, more charismatic people take leadership positions. I am very afraid the Democrats will be the party of No for 8 more years.
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Senator Warren said: “I think it has reminded Democrats we need to run on our values,” she replied, parrying the question. “Because our values are more in line with most of America.”
I hope America is in line with our values, but having allowed the right-wing to drown us out in too many forums, the values of this country are tilting into a very ugly set. The more those ugly values are normalized, the more people will accept them and be less repelled by them. I felt that both Bill Clinton and Barak Obama were too stingy in using their extraordinary oratory gifts to convey the rational for liberal values. It's something - as Trump knows well - that has to be repeated loudly every single day. It doesn't need to be done as crudely, or with his sadistic bullying glee, but it has to be done constantly to reach people out there who have never learned critical thinking techniques. Unsuccessfully, Democrats have attempted to reach these crucial swing voters with nuanced arguments accompanied by supportive data. Hooray for us for pandering to rationalism. Sadly, facts done seem to work with enough of a margin. We can still promote our human values in a positive way. We just have to shout them loudly, and repeatedly, and in chorus. And yes, sometimes that includes shouting “No” to everything this GOP kleptocracy proposes.
I hope America is in line with our values, but having allowed the right-wing to drown us out in too many forums, the values of this country are tilting into a very ugly set. The more those ugly values are normalized, the more people will accept them and be less repelled by them. I felt that both Bill Clinton and Barak Obama were too stingy in using their extraordinary oratory gifts to convey the rational for liberal values. It's something - as Trump knows well - that has to be repeated loudly every single day. It doesn't need to be done as crudely, or with his sadistic bullying glee, but it has to be done constantly to reach people out there who have never learned critical thinking techniques. Unsuccessfully, Democrats have attempted to reach these crucial swing voters with nuanced arguments accompanied by supportive data. Hooray for us for pandering to rationalism. Sadly, facts done seem to work with enough of a margin. We can still promote our human values in a positive way. We just have to shout them loudly, and repeatedly, and in chorus. And yes, sometimes that includes shouting “No” to everything this GOP kleptocracy proposes.
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The regime in power feels empowered to Make Minorities and Women Know Their Place Again and Make All The Same Mistakes Again in regards to business regulations and the environment. Seriously, has nobody on the right read The Jungle? The Democrats absolutely should stand in the way.
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The New Party of No will be a No Go if it continues to trash the likes of Bernie Sanders and Keith Ellison, and continues to vote to take the corporate buck. Reading that "one wealthy donor"'s objections to Ellison caused the DNC to work against him, and Obama's pushing of Perez to run the DNC so as to maintain its centrist, corporatist message, does not make for much confidence in the future of the party. There was a good effort to dump Pelosi from within the House, but not good enough. Time for a major change from within or a third party must start - a party that deals directly and head-on with the issue of income inequality and the needs of everyone except the rich.
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The Democrats are the party of no. Yep, No brains, no vision, no scruples, no morals and no guts.
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paradiselost - You got it right - the Dems are the party of no brains, no vision, no scruples, no morals and no guts. And maybe add no energy - the Schumer- Pelosi crowd are old and hollowed out, and need to step aside. Let's hope they get nudged, the sooner the better.
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Democrats are playing with fire, instead of learning what lost them seats. Their rhetoric sounds like they will oppose the people's by not respecting Trump's victory. Now, Democrats stand for corporate money and fake outrage that cost them a lot of political battles. Still now, they want to blame someone for their problems; I would be surprised if Warren retains her seat again!
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The Trump voters are also blaming others for their lack of education and for the change in the job market. They blame immigrants. Casting blame is easy but finding solutions is difficult. You cannot negotiate with terrorists and the Republicans are terrorists. Their voters are terrified of losing health insurance that could cause them their lives. When you are killing your constituency it is difficult to win elections.
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Hobbes°Miami
"THE PEOPLE's will...."
That line can be found in just about every propaganda tract written in totalitarian states since the 19th century. "THE" people's... "the PEOPLE'S"
Except that Trump lost the popular election by 3,000,000 votes.
What about "THE PEOPLE's" will in consideration of that?
What, the Dems should buckle down and submit? Do what they're told like the GOP did after 2008 when Barack was elected by both the popular vote and electoral college, and like the GOP did in 2012 when that happened again?
Massachusetts isn't Florida. It's very likely that whether you agree with her or not "THE" people of her State will return her to office, just as they did generations of Kennedys.
"THE PEOPLE's will...."
That line can be found in just about every propaganda tract written in totalitarian states since the 19th century. "THE" people's... "the PEOPLE'S"
Except that Trump lost the popular election by 3,000,000 votes.
What about "THE PEOPLE's" will in consideration of that?
What, the Dems should buckle down and submit? Do what they're told like the GOP did after 2008 when Barack was elected by both the popular vote and electoral college, and like the GOP did in 2012 when that happened again?
Massachusetts isn't Florida. It's very likely that whether you agree with her or not "THE" people of her State will return her to office, just as they did generations of Kennedys.
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This comment is sort of ridiculous when coming on the back of 8 years of absolute republican obstructionism. I think the Democrats learned perfectly what lost them seats: they were the recipients of an obstructionist party that put itself before country and it got the presidency, the house and the senate. Nobody can blame them if they are repeating a similar recipe hoping for similar results.
Democrats stand for corporate money? I'm not saying no, but compared to this particular President, the cabinet he has chosen and the legislation they are trying to put forward, this is so outrageous that it seems to be a joke.
Democrats stand for corporate money? I'm not saying no, but compared to this particular President, the cabinet he has chosen and the legislation they are trying to put forward, this is so outrageous that it seems to be a joke.
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Schumer said he was going to stop the Sessions vote...and he failed.
Bring on the primary competitor. If Schumer can't stop Sessions, what good is he?
He's a liar,not worthy of the office he sits in.
Bring on the primary competitor. If Schumer can't stop Sessions, what good is he?
He's a liar,not worthy of the office he sits in.
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Erica: You will have to wait until 2022 to primary Sen. Schumer.
Good! Tit for tat. For years, as the Republicans have refused to cooperate and the Democrats have tried to cooperate, the Democrats have inched further toward extinction. As anthropologists would have predicted. The Republicans have to experience negative consequences for their intransigence or they will never co-operate or negotiate. Without two sides coming to the table in good faith (and with honesty) we will not make progress as a country. Anyone who thinks one party rule is a good idea ought to reflect on whether they'd really like corporations to charge them more for health insurance or deny them a job based on genetic testing. And that's just one of the ideas Republicans are considering.
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Repulicans or democrats still same old club ,good cop bad cop routine . The people must insit that government serves the people first. Means way government spends trillions on imports like computors made in china. Add up last 20 years of government spending on computors alone made in japan or china trillions. Now add up the cost lost revenue from taxs of jobs lost to imports. Add on cost of 72 million people on government assitance because dont make living wage. 100 trillion in programs governmnet cant afford or have tax revenue to pay for. Next time you vote think agun what do we haveto show for empty promises given by elected officals
One Party rule will bring us another Civil War. ISIS has nothing on the division tearing us down.
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Someone has to say NO. JGAIA-
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They better watch out, The American people are watching and they may replace a lot of those "no" Democrats in 2018.
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Like they did all those "no" Republicans?
More people voted FOR the Democratic Party than for trump, sir.
Facts: pesky things to republicans.....
Facts: pesky things to republicans.....
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Yes we are watching and the NO Dems aren't going. Lyin Cheating Trump and the rest are going. Trump won for two reasons 1) FBI and Russian interference and 2) the many Americans who would vote for literally anyone over Hillary. Mores the shame for such shortsightedness, now we have a true buffoon in the White House. I hope we can survive until he is impeached.
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Septimius Severus is famously said to have given the advice to his sons: "Be harmonious, enrich the soldiers, and scorn all other men" before he died at Eboracum (York) on 4 February 211. Trump and the GOP are the same. Billions to the military by billions from our citizens. Trump's government has become equal to Russia and its oligarchs. That is a backwards slide. The founding fathers must be looking down at us in dismay.
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A far better title for this article should have been "The New Party of Meh."
I'm waiting, and I suspect other Democrats are waiting, for someone to emerge from the pablum with specific plans that address the needs of the citizenry, such as a single payer health insurance system via the expansion of Medicare. Why not, also, the following:
1. Allowing the government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare/Medicaid;
2. an infrastructure plan focused on alternative energy projects and high speed rail;
3. A Constitutional amendment abolishing the Electoral College;
4. Tying the interest rate of college loans to the interbank exchange rate;
5. Adding a transaction tax of $0.01 to all computer-generated stock trades, with the revenue targeted for job training and re-training for returning vets and those whose jobs have disappeared through economic or market conditions;
6. A requirement that any candidate for Federal office must release his/her previous five years of tax returns;
I get it: most of these don't have a snowball's chance. But at least they are ideas, something for the Democrats to sink their teeth into and propose as a New American Deal.
Finally, hire Frank Luntz to come up with some catchy, memorable phrases like the "death tax" and Obamacare "tragedy" to use against the Republican Party every day.
I'm waiting, and I suspect other Democrats are waiting, for someone to emerge from the pablum with specific plans that address the needs of the citizenry, such as a single payer health insurance system via the expansion of Medicare. Why not, also, the following:
1. Allowing the government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare/Medicaid;
2. an infrastructure plan focused on alternative energy projects and high speed rail;
3. A Constitutional amendment abolishing the Electoral College;
4. Tying the interest rate of college loans to the interbank exchange rate;
5. Adding a transaction tax of $0.01 to all computer-generated stock trades, with the revenue targeted for job training and re-training for returning vets and those whose jobs have disappeared through economic or market conditions;
6. A requirement that any candidate for Federal office must release his/her previous five years of tax returns;
I get it: most of these don't have a snowball's chance. But at least they are ideas, something for the Democrats to sink their teeth into and propose as a New American Deal.
Finally, hire Frank Luntz to come up with some catchy, memorable phrases like the "death tax" and Obamacare "tragedy" to use against the Republican Party every day.
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1. Allowing the government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare/Medicaid;
A bad idea for a number of reasons. For example, it removes the incentive and profit to develop new drugs.
2. an infrastructure plan focused on alternative energy projects and high speed rail;
There will never be high speed rail in the Northeast Corridor due to lack of land and curvy, narrow rights of way (think Connecticut). Better to develop automated highways.
3. A Constitutional amendment abolishing the Electoral College;
Dead on arrival. You need to get 38 states to pass it. You only control 6.
4. Tying the interest rate of college loans to the interbank exchange rate;
Better to make the colleges liable on new loans, which will put an end to basket weaving majors.
5. Adding a transaction tax of $0.01 to all computer-generated stock trades, with the revenue targeted for job training and re-training for returning vets and those whose jobs have disappeared through economic or market conditions;
That would destroy the markets and send the business overseas to London where you would not be able to tax it.
6. A requirement that any candidate for Federal office must release his/her previous five years of tax returns;
The Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack, ruled that the requirements in the Constitution are the only ones you can impose on candidates for federal office. President Trump was at least 35, a natural born citizen, 14 years a US resident. That is all you can impose.
A bad idea for a number of reasons. For example, it removes the incentive and profit to develop new drugs.
2. an infrastructure plan focused on alternative energy projects and high speed rail;
There will never be high speed rail in the Northeast Corridor due to lack of land and curvy, narrow rights of way (think Connecticut). Better to develop automated highways.
3. A Constitutional amendment abolishing the Electoral College;
Dead on arrival. You need to get 38 states to pass it. You only control 6.
4. Tying the interest rate of college loans to the interbank exchange rate;
Better to make the colleges liable on new loans, which will put an end to basket weaving majors.
5. Adding a transaction tax of $0.01 to all computer-generated stock trades, with the revenue targeted for job training and re-training for returning vets and those whose jobs have disappeared through economic or market conditions;
That would destroy the markets and send the business overseas to London where you would not be able to tax it.
6. A requirement that any candidate for Federal office must release his/her previous five years of tax returns;
The Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack, ruled that the requirements in the Constitution are the only ones you can impose on candidates for federal office. President Trump was at least 35, a natural born citizen, 14 years a US resident. That is all you can impose.
Instead of being the Party of No, the Democrats should craft a series of policies that will clearly and obviously benefit the majority of Americans and then let the Republicans refuse to implement them. 2018 and 2020 will come soon enough.
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and here the policies are:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
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With the arrival of the "New Democrat" Bill Clinton in the White House, the party made a deal with the devil: like us because we're Republican-Lite. We say we support unions but avoid any event in which we're shown together with them. We say we're for compassionate welfare then pass the evil "welfare reform." These are just two of the many times the Democratic party was the Party of Yes. Make note of what it and where it got us.
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Politics used to involve conflict, but with rules, a la boxing governed by rules promulgated by the Marquis of Queensbury. Then sometime in the not too distant past, the GOP threw out the rules. It started with stolen elections, and progressed into conduct that is almost, if not actually, treasonous.
Meanwhile, the Democrats continued to play by the rules, and this is where it got them. The Republicans took politics into the gutter. They now have no right to complain when their own tactics are used against them.
Meanwhile, the Democrats continued to play by the rules, and this is where it got them. The Republicans took politics into the gutter. They now have no right to complain when their own tactics are used against them.
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Yes to teaching science. Yes to equal rights regardless of race, sexual preference, gender identity, among others. Yes, to fair treatment of immigrants.Yes to a social safety net. Yes to health insurance for all. Yes, to a federal budget that is fiscally sound. Yes, to infrastructure. Yes, to the rich paying their fair share. Yes, to corporations being regulated. Yes, to prosecuting corporate malfeasance. Yes, to the government treating all people, and their businesses, equally under the law for a fair playing field. Yes, bringing the number of people in prison down to a more international average instead of providing an industry for crony crooks on the public dime. Yes, towards a protective police forces instead of authoritarian ones. Yes, to a right to privacy in our homes, our phones and our bodies. Yes, to a free press, free speech, and freedom of Religion for more than just Christians. Need I go on?
The only thing the democrats really are against is a Republican Party led by President Trump who is against all of these things and will work to dismantle as befitting the party of "no", everything that the democrats, yes, strive for.
The only thing the democrats really are against is a Republican Party led by President Trump who is against all of these things and will work to dismantle as befitting the party of "no", everything that the democrats, yes, strive for.
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The party of "No" does not win elections. The Democrats should become the party of "How".
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Seems like the GOP did ok after 8 years of nothing but obstruction and "no"
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The last party of "No" did indeed win the election. However, I agree a better way is to be the party of "NO -- and here is HOW!"
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Republicans didn't win because they were the party of "no." It was because of the policies to which they were saying, "no."
Obamacare was very unpopular (and still is) among those earning above the threshold for subsidies. They were paying much more for narrower networks. And they VOTED. Obama may have high personal ratings, but republicans were very successful running against HIM time after time. The more to the left he moved, the better republicans did. His positions on immigrants and transgender locker rooms were not majority opinions.
Americans voted "no" to left wing policies and big spending. Democrats will not achieve the same thing voting "no" to job creation and immigration enforcement.
Obamacare was very unpopular (and still is) among those earning above the threshold for subsidies. They were paying much more for narrower networks. And they VOTED. Obama may have high personal ratings, but republicans were very successful running against HIM time after time. The more to the left he moved, the better republicans did. His positions on immigrants and transgender locker rooms were not majority opinions.
Americans voted "no" to left wing policies and big spending. Democrats will not achieve the same thing voting "no" to job creation and immigration enforcement.
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“To find fault is easy; to do better is more difficult” (Plutarch)
I see no fresh thinking, new perspectives, or better ideas about
governing America. It's Me v You, Us. v Them; daily tirades in the
media. One has to consider what was told to us as Rome was
beginning to rot : "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought
to desolation, and every house divided against itself falls...."
Now, about Blue v Red States; Democrats and Republicans.....
It's the SYSTEM that is dying, and Americans know that fact....
I see no fresh thinking, new perspectives, or better ideas about
governing America. It's Me v You, Us. v Them; daily tirades in the
media. One has to consider what was told to us as Rome was
beginning to rot : "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought
to desolation, and every house divided against itself falls...."
Now, about Blue v Red States; Democrats and Republicans.....
It's the SYSTEM that is dying, and Americans know that fact....
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As others have noted, there a vast difference to saying NO science, education, healthcare, common sense etc., and saying NO to Trumpism.
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Based on all we've seen, the Trump administration is likely to go down worse than the Bush administration with its tremendous deficits, insufficient regulation to stop nefarious business practices, and continuing wars in the Middle East. So that will be TWO failed administrations. Will that be enough to send a signal to the American people that the Republicans typically make a mess of things? Democrats aren't perfect, but please... we wouldn't have been in Iraq if Gore was in office, and Hillary would have produced a far better evolution of the ACA.
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It's an unpleasant feeling hating and protesting everything Trump and Republican but the consequences of saying and doing nothing are far more unpleasant. It's bemusing reading comments from some conservative media pundits who might not embrace all things Trump but who see something possibly redeeming in his presidency, entreating progressive critics to level their criticism of Trump on select issues where a riposte is strategic and warranted. When nothing emanating from Trump and Republicans is even remotely acceptable, based on a foundation of lies and embellishments, carrying serious life and death consequences or at least defying constitutionality, how does one readily pick and choose their targets? Every element of this administration is offensive and divisive, fueled by identity politics, supreme arrogance, obfuscation, denial, and deflection.
I won't stop resisting Trump until he is forcibly removed from office. And I will continue to rail against the complicit Republican party until they are replaced in Congress.
I won't stop resisting Trump until he is forcibly removed from office. And I will continue to rail against the complicit Republican party until they are replaced in Congress.
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The biggest issue I can see is that the Dems (of which I am a proud life long member) have a problem with coalescing and staying together to present a united front. That's how the GOP always wins, no matter what, they stick together. Even if it means the middle and lower classes lose out, the GOP doesn't care because they have uber-rich donors who know how to slickly market them and throw money at their campaigns. Bernie had it right when he went after the "little guy's money" - Dems need to follow his game plan, get out there in the small towns and big city neighborhoods, divest of corporate donor money as much as possible, and make their case directly to the people we lost because of the arrogance that we had them all along. Actions speak louder than words, we need action.
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NYTimes, you're asking for a particular type of person to read this article because many of us Democrats know we have a lot more to offer than "No." But we are against lies, collusion with foreign governments, and policies that only benefit the top 1%.
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This is a misleading false equivalence to call the democrats the party of "no"-it equates the dems with the republicans' strategy beginning Jan. 2009. The repubs essentially opposed everything Obama did solely to prevent his success. They even opposed the healthcare plan that they themselves devised in the 1990s in order to enrich the insurance industry instead of providing public healthcare. The dems today oppose the repubs' attempt to wholely dismantle the federal government. Any rational person would oppose the measures the dems oppose because, for example, a non-polluted environment helps everyone, as does fighting climate change. Also, any blue collar worker surely appreciates workplace safety rules. Dems work for the good of the people, repubs work for the good of the rich-this is how it has been at least since Reagan. This is why repubs' tax plans always greatly advantage the rich over everyone else. You cannot equate Dems and Repubs as simply engaging in politics.
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Come on- it's not that the Democrats are "more comfortable" being the party of opposition, it's that there is no other sane choice. The alternative is to allow the systematic destruction of our country. Trump is a narcissistic simpleton, who is unfamiliar with even the most rudimentary tenets of humanitarianism and U.S. government. The Republicans have propped him as their puppet in order to force through their own agenda (lining their pockets and their donors' pockets). That he won on the votes of the very people who will be the most hurt by his destructive policies is a very unfortunate irony.
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The Democrats will have a tough time making American great again after the unimaginable damage that Donald Trump will do it.
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President Trump needs to provide evidence he was wiretapped by President Obama or face impeachment. We can’t have a president that lies to the American people. Our national security depends on it.
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Of course Democrats have devolved into the party of "no."
(Lower case, no exclamation marks.) Democrats have nothing positive to offer. With Bill Clinton's presidency Democrats hoped to gin up mass consent through social movements without offering any kind of populist economic message.
We all suffered and, finally, so are professional Democrats.
This is a party that no longer mentions the father of the modern Democratic party, FDR. This more than any other is the time for a new New Deal, but when is the last time you heard a Dem in the House or the Senate mention Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
Bernie Sanders exemplifies the mild, New Deal Democrat that Democrats, broadly, should be emulating, yet he was driven out of the party.
Instead, the DNC presented us with a warmonger most comfortable around Dick Cheney, John McCain, and Henry Kissinger. Instead, the DNC presented us with a politician wholly own by Wall Street, wholly owed by the banks, wholly owned by all the monied interests.
FDR said, "I welcome their hatred.
Hillary Clinton said, "I welcome their campaign contributions and 'speaking fees'. "
The party of "no" just voted to rescind even Barack Obama's small nod against corruption, the open acceptance of lobbyist money. The party of "no" just elected Tom Perez to chair the DNC in an election that permitted lobbyists to play a significant role *as* voters.
Trump is loathsome. Voters who should be natural Democrats find that party even more repulsive.
(Lower case, no exclamation marks.) Democrats have nothing positive to offer. With Bill Clinton's presidency Democrats hoped to gin up mass consent through social movements without offering any kind of populist economic message.
We all suffered and, finally, so are professional Democrats.
This is a party that no longer mentions the father of the modern Democratic party, FDR. This more than any other is the time for a new New Deal, but when is the last time you heard a Dem in the House or the Senate mention Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
Bernie Sanders exemplifies the mild, New Deal Democrat that Democrats, broadly, should be emulating, yet he was driven out of the party.
Instead, the DNC presented us with a warmonger most comfortable around Dick Cheney, John McCain, and Henry Kissinger. Instead, the DNC presented us with a politician wholly own by Wall Street, wholly owed by the banks, wholly owned by all the monied interests.
FDR said, "I welcome their hatred.
Hillary Clinton said, "I welcome their campaign contributions and 'speaking fees'. "
The party of "no" just voted to rescind even Barack Obama's small nod against corruption, the open acceptance of lobbyist money. The party of "no" just elected Tom Perez to chair the DNC in an election that permitted lobbyists to play a significant role *as* voters.
Trump is loathsome. Voters who should be natural Democrats find that party even more repulsive.
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The Republicans were the Party of No during the tenure of President Obama because of pure racism. If the Democrats are resisting Trump, it is because he is an immoral human being.
There is a big difference and let's not scotch over that.
There is a big difference and let's not scotch over that.
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The Republicans were opposing the majority of Americans who had voted Obama in twice, and by sizable majorities.
The Democrats, by opposing Trump, are acting in accordance with the will of the majority of Americans who voted against having Trump as president.
And that is huge and should not be forgotten like it was during the Bush II years where the Demos fell over themselves to serve a president who did not have an electoral mandate wrongfully put into office by the unprecedented interference of the Supreme Court.
The Democrats, by opposing Trump, are acting in accordance with the will of the majority of Americans who voted against having Trump as president.
And that is huge and should not be forgotten like it was during the Bush II years where the Demos fell over themselves to serve a president who did not have an electoral mandate wrongfully put into office by the unprecedented interference of the Supreme Court.
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Warren has it right ... people were so desperate for economic change that they voted for Trump and his ilk. That's why it happened and will be the best way to reach all voters in the next election. This is not to say that there weren't other issues which the GOP propagandists used to their advantage to fuel the flames, but if you can't pay your bills, it obviously tends to make your thinking a bit less rational. So, first of all, just show them the facts. People listen to their pocketbooks.
Trumpcare is a great example of how the GOP has backed itself into a corner in that the GOP has to fulfill their promises of better care, coverage, and less cost that appealed to many in the base that got them elected. on the other hand, they also have to satisfy their big money supporters. it's clear who they have chosen so just show voters the facts. the ACA was not affordable? Trumpcare will be even less so. The GOP plan isn't fixing anything, they just decided who was going to benefit, and it wasn't Mr. and Mrs. GOP Base Voter.
Trumpcare is a great example of how the GOP has backed itself into a corner in that the GOP has to fulfill their promises of better care, coverage, and less cost that appealed to many in the base that got them elected. on the other hand, they also have to satisfy their big money supporters. it's clear who they have chosen so just show voters the facts. the ACA was not affordable? Trumpcare will be even less so. The GOP plan isn't fixing anything, they just decided who was going to benefit, and it wasn't Mr. and Mrs. GOP Base Voter.
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A wise political maxim goes that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. Our immediate goal has to be preventing evil. Once that beachhead is established, we Democrats can return to doing good. To pretend that we can have a positive agenda right now is fantasy. Later, when we've again found our footing with a majority of the people we'll have plenty of time to enact a progressive agenda. But for now, stop evil. Prevent the worst damage. And build hope for a better future without the lies, hatred, bigotry, misogyny, and racism.
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Yes. We MUST speak up on behalf of the powerless against 45's tyranny, and we have to do it publicly, loudly and consistently.every.time. Silence = death. History will not be kind to 45's enablers.
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No this started when the Republicans pledged to make Obama's life miserable and undermine him at every opportunity. They want one party government so they have it.
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The author of this article lost me when he stated "the Democrats have never been a natural opposition party". Apparently, he can only remember the past 8 years... The Republican are mere amateurs when compared to the Democrats as a "natural opposition party", nice try Charles...
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I did not vote Democratic this last year, even though Im an MIT-educated transgender woman. The Democrats are the new Corporatist party, they only stand for the elite, and peddle social issues in order to smokescreen us liberals away.
Im just tired of the whole system. We need a third party, a fresh party, to be formed and sweep these old fossils out. I mean, arent like all the people this article talked about over 70 years old? Im talking about Warren and Sanders too. Im done voting for baby boomers. They ruined our country, I wont vote for any boomer again, regardless.
Im just tired of the whole system. We need a third party, a fresh party, to be formed and sweep these old fossils out. I mean, arent like all the people this article talked about over 70 years old? Im talking about Warren and Sanders too. Im done voting for baby boomers. They ruined our country, I wont vote for any boomer again, regardless.
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I'm a college educated heterosexual male: big deal! Get my point.
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If you think of yourself as such a great liberal person, get out there and make a difference. I tire of reading comments from people who are tired of the system.
If the Democrats cannot figure out what happened in November they are in deep trouble. The last campaign cycle was the most tone deaf & cynical in my adult lifetime. Trump did not win- Hillary lost- and no, it was not a stolen election. Millions stayed home because they saw no difference between Near-Republican New Democrats & Republicans on issues of real importance.
Democrats used to talk about Working People. With the arrival of the Democratic Leadership Council that includes both Bill & Hillary Clinton, voters never heard working people, they heard Middle Class- about as ill defined a term as exists. They traded the blue collar jobs away for Wall Street Dollars. They presided over the shredding of the social safety net. They supported the very deregulation that changed media into a Conservative Echo Chamber & Banking into predatory capitalism.
That is the record from Main Street, Flyover Country.
Before a Primary was held, the DC Democrats lined up for Hillary like a coronation. Others fought against the Sanders Campaign and volunteers- I saw it first hand. The rabble were told not to bother because Hillary's Birthright was the Oval Office and besides, she was the smartest person in the room. They then proceeded to rig the process in favor of Ms Clinton.
I am the son of New Deal Democrats, but am an Independent Progressive. I do not owe the Democrats my vote & there are millions like me. When Hillary lost it was no surprise- we warned you in comments in this paper.
Democrats used to talk about Working People. With the arrival of the Democratic Leadership Council that includes both Bill & Hillary Clinton, voters never heard working people, they heard Middle Class- about as ill defined a term as exists. They traded the blue collar jobs away for Wall Street Dollars. They presided over the shredding of the social safety net. They supported the very deregulation that changed media into a Conservative Echo Chamber & Banking into predatory capitalism.
That is the record from Main Street, Flyover Country.
Before a Primary was held, the DC Democrats lined up for Hillary like a coronation. Others fought against the Sanders Campaign and volunteers- I saw it first hand. The rabble were told not to bother because Hillary's Birthright was the Oval Office and besides, she was the smartest person in the room. They then proceeded to rig the process in favor of Ms Clinton.
I am the son of New Deal Democrats, but am an Independent Progressive. I do not owe the Democrats my vote & there are millions like me. When Hillary lost it was no surprise- we warned you in comments in this paper.
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If people "couldn't tell the difference" between the candidates beliefs after actually reading about their beliefs (in fact based mediums) and still couldn't tell the difference...or watched their campaign speeches, than our educational systems are worse off than we thought.
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My only question for you and the millions like you is this: if you voted for Trump because of his "progressive" message, would you vote for him again after seeing what you're seeing?
I'm a registered Independent; I voted for Bernie in the primaries then Hillary in the general election. In no way, shape, or form was it ever possible for me to vote for this grifter in chief we have now.
I'm a registered Independent; I voted for Bernie in the primaries then Hillary in the general election. In no way, shape, or form was it ever possible for me to vote for this grifter in chief we have now.
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In rhetoric they may be different, but Corporate Democrats are little different from mainstream Republicans on Trade, Defense, Homeland Security, Prison Planet, Infrastructure, Deregulation, Taxation, etc. Take away abortion and the environment and you see little. On the Environment even Obama was blathering about Clean Coal for a very long time.
People on Main Street like their Democrats to be Democrats- not Republican Lite. When Wikileaks showed Hillary behind closed doors was nothing like her on stage persona, it confirmed what many knew or suspected. Millions of Democrats and Independents stayed home on Election Day, others like myself voted Third Party.
An interesting thing happened at the height of the Tea Party nonsense a couple of elections back. The Democrats that went home and ran on the ACA were largely re-elected and the Democrats who ran away from the ACA lost.
Harry Truman famously said:
"The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat..."
Here is his 1948 Convention Speech.
https://youtu.be/k-7kpqhnXHE
People on Main Street like their Democrats to be Democrats- not Republican Lite. When Wikileaks showed Hillary behind closed doors was nothing like her on stage persona, it confirmed what many knew or suspected. Millions of Democrats and Independents stayed home on Election Day, others like myself voted Third Party.
An interesting thing happened at the height of the Tea Party nonsense a couple of elections back. The Democrats that went home and ran on the ACA were largely re-elected and the Democrats who ran away from the ACA lost.
Harry Truman famously said:
"The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat..."
Here is his 1948 Convention Speech.
https://youtu.be/k-7kpqhnXHE
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On the several occasions that Trump called Schumer in the weeks after the election, Schumer argued that he could try to govern as a hard-right conservative, but “America is not a hard-right country,” and there would be electoral consequences.
This is really true! The country is not hard right, even not right. America is liberal in general, popular vote margins for dems in past few elections is one thing as a proof of it. About 200 counties that voted for Obama voted Trump not for ideological reasons, they voted for their economic concerns. The present govt is still trying to take the country to far right, that will be a disaster for them in coming days.
This is really true! The country is not hard right, even not right. America is liberal in general, popular vote margins for dems in past few elections is one thing as a proof of it. About 200 counties that voted for Obama voted Trump not for ideological reasons, they voted for their economic concerns. The present govt is still trying to take the country to far right, that will be a disaster for them in coming days.
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Democrats are so out of touch with the reality of middle class life.
When you listen to and surround yourself with celebs, entertainers, rich tech kids and ego eccentric high dollar donaters, it is no wonder they missed the anger that has been boiling up in the heartland.
HC wasn't representing me and neither was trump.
2018/2020 will not be wins if the DNC doesn't learn the REAL ISSUES and stop with the FLASH of names and fashion.
We need substance & facts & a plan - might sound boring but the voters will not stand for anymore LIE
WE NEED REAL LEADERSHIP - i didn't see LEADERSHIP on the stage when the DNCs candidates for chairperson stood up.
When you listen to and surround yourself with celebs, entertainers, rich tech kids and ego eccentric high dollar donaters, it is no wonder they missed the anger that has been boiling up in the heartland.
HC wasn't representing me and neither was trump.
2018/2020 will not be wins if the DNC doesn't learn the REAL ISSUES and stop with the FLASH of names and fashion.
We need substance & facts & a plan - might sound boring but the voters will not stand for anymore LIE
WE NEED REAL LEADERSHIP - i didn't see LEADERSHIP on the stage when the DNCs candidates for chairperson stood up.
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What about this isn't "real issues"?
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
When the press writes articles focused on political strategy rather than policy, and voters complain but accept slogans don't take the time to follow policy for themselves, we get Trump and Republicans, who are good at insults but little else
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
When the press writes articles focused on political strategy rather than policy, and voters complain but accept slogans don't take the time to follow policy for themselves, we get Trump and Republicans, who are good at insults but little else
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Hillary's detailed platform issues sound like motherhood and apple pie but the problems were 1) people didnt think she was trustworthy, 2) she was not a popular enough candidate, and dare I say it , 3) she was a woman. The DNC took too many risks and lost.
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I guess the Democrats are so out of new ideas beyond socialism-lite, that they're now reduced to copying from the Tea Party's playbook. Sad!
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Our dishonest, corrupt media should call out the Democrats for their hypocrisy. Make the liberal Democrats do something good for the Country.
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You must be referring to non fact based mediums such as Fox News and Breitbart News. Yes, certainly their dishonest, corrupt media should be called out for supporting our great nation's foremost, continuously dishonest president. Democrats believe in science, education, separation of church and state (per our Constitution), equality, affordable health care, freedom of the press, environmental protection, the Department of Labor's standards including workplace safety and health protections, The Environmental Protection Agency etc.
What "something good for the country" did you have in mind?
What "something good for the country" did you have in mind?
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Like so many other Urban Elites on both sides of the aisle, Chuck Schumer is completely detached from what is going in in this country.
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Urban elites listening to other urbanites telling them what to do. Didn't they learn anything from these last few elections?
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cheap money,, big borrowing... the success of the trump empire
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It's the economy, stupid.
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The Democrats have been the "No" party for longer than they think. "No" to business and capitalism, "No" to struggling middle class white folks, "No" to law enforcement, "No" to enforcing immigration laws, and "No" to personal responsibility. Although no fan of the Republicans or the president, I cannot stand what the Democratic party has become and have no party that speaks for me.
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Yes or No is not the issue. Principles are the issue. If you stand for something, then sometimes you need to say 'yes'. Sometimes you need to say 'no.' Many times it's important to say, "let's talk." However, the compromise should not be 'how much' should we cut Social Security or 'how much' should we shrink government, as it often seemed to be with Barack Obama and his mad obsession with 'bipartisanship for bipartisanship's sake'. It should be, what serves our principles and can we find a compromise that serves our mutual interests. If no, then the principled man has to say 'no.' If the Democratic Party is ever going to recover it's going to be because it stands for something other than empty slogans like 'I'm with her'.
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Democrats are the worst hypocrites. They do not care about this country or its citizens. The are simply playing politics. Schumer and Peloci should be ASHAMED. Do something constructive, work with the new President to get the better trade deals, protect our border, infrastructure investment, bring back jobs to America, so on.
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You do know that the Republicans refused to consider the Democrats' infrastructure bill, their jobs bill, there immigration reform bill and just about any other legislation they brought forward while Obama was president? And about jobs: when Obama took office, the economy was free falling and we were losing between 500,000 and 800,000 jobs a month. About 20 million jobs were created during his presidency and he brought unemployment back to 5%.
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Yes, they are spending all their time trying to figure out how to oppose. They are acting in exactly the manner that leads to low approval ratings and convincing themselves they have to get really, really good at it.
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Party of "No?" Really --up to now, nobody would have said yes to removing the healthcare of millions, to remove protections for our rivers and waters, to remove safeguards for mom and pop investors. Yes to attacks against freedom of the press, the courts, to question the legitimacy of our government? Not the party of Roosevelt, of Kennedy, or of Clinton --and neither the party of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush.
So indeed, no should be shouted from the rooftops --it's not being contrarian, but being true to being actually a conservative, i.e. to conserve a faith on America's past and commitment of a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
So indeed, no should be shouted from the rooftops --it's not being contrarian, but being true to being actually a conservative, i.e. to conserve a faith on America's past and commitment of a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
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The new political party of "no" has a long way to accomplish a fraction of what the GOP has done.
For instance, in the U.S Senate the GOP has ruthless leadership capable of voting as a unified block, unlike Chuck Schumer who has yet to produce any unified vote so far, and likely will not when you have likes of a Joe Manchin coddling up for photo ops with Donald Trump.
Also, the GOP was very successful in quelling rebellion in their ranks, unlike what we see across the aisle from the likes of non-democrat Bernie Sanders continuing to do more harm than good with his unicorn brand of socialist fantasy.
Finally, the most important success is that the GOP has mastered the art of a simple message, something that the elitist Democratic Party has refused to do.
For instance, in the U.S Senate the GOP has ruthless leadership capable of voting as a unified block, unlike Chuck Schumer who has yet to produce any unified vote so far, and likely will not when you have likes of a Joe Manchin coddling up for photo ops with Donald Trump.
Also, the GOP was very successful in quelling rebellion in their ranks, unlike what we see across the aisle from the likes of non-democrat Bernie Sanders continuing to do more harm than good with his unicorn brand of socialist fantasy.
Finally, the most important success is that the GOP has mastered the art of a simple message, something that the elitist Democratic Party has refused to do.
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You're right, Mike. Schubert is useless. But the problem is more than just Scumer's lack of ability: every one of the Democrats in the Senate thinks he or she is or ought be the leader. Life doesn't work that way. And until Pelosi and her crowd are out of the House, nothing good can happen...
There are no surprises as the ideology of neoliberalism proves it is of a time and a place that is past.
America needs a rebirth of democracy and even as we all know single payer delivers the most bang for the fewest bucks it will take billions from the private sector and deliver it to the citizens and their elected representatives.
Not only can government through the power of the purse control costs it can return research and development of pharmaceuticals to the public institutions where the research belongs. Education does the same basic thing and public ownership of vital sectors of the economy means democracy really matters.
Neoliberalism is failing and neither political party is comfortable with democracy which is difficult and requires a citizenry that is informed and engaged. It is easier to be a party of no when you are not at the helm and the iceberg is directly ahead.
Neither political is prepared to admit they are wrong and the only viable solutions do not fit their particular ideology.
The early 19th century Nova Scotian writer humourist and statesman Thomas Chandler Haliburton hit the nail on the head when he said:
"When a man is wrong and won't admit it he always gets angry."
When your politics deliver only anger instead of solutions maybe it is time to try something new like democracy. Democracy is meaningless when the citizens control nothing except the shadows on the wall.
America needs a rebirth of democracy and even as we all know single payer delivers the most bang for the fewest bucks it will take billions from the private sector and deliver it to the citizens and their elected representatives.
Not only can government through the power of the purse control costs it can return research and development of pharmaceuticals to the public institutions where the research belongs. Education does the same basic thing and public ownership of vital sectors of the economy means democracy really matters.
Neoliberalism is failing and neither political party is comfortable with democracy which is difficult and requires a citizenry that is informed and engaged. It is easier to be a party of no when you are not at the helm and the iceberg is directly ahead.
Neither political is prepared to admit they are wrong and the only viable solutions do not fit their particular ideology.
The early 19th century Nova Scotian writer humourist and statesman Thomas Chandler Haliburton hit the nail on the head when he said:
"When a man is wrong and won't admit it he always gets angry."
When your politics deliver only anger instead of solutions maybe it is time to try something new like democracy. Democracy is meaningless when the citizens control nothing except the shadows on the wall.
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Excellent comment, Moe. Unfortunately spot on...
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You single payer folks crack me up. Democrats starting with Ted Kennedy in the days of Richard Nixon championed universal single payer health coverage. Kennedy always said it was the greatest cause of his life to ensure health care for all Americans.
Now I read comments all the time talking about how Democrats should "just do" single payer. I have to assume you're all too young to understand a darn thing. If it were that easy, it would have been a done deal in 1971.
I have no idea what you want Democrats to admit they're wrong about. Ted Kennedy, a powerhouse in the senate, never could achieve his life's goal of universal health care. Barack Obama at least got something, and it was a miracle at that.
Now I read comments all the time talking about how Democrats should "just do" single payer. I have to assume you're all too young to understand a darn thing. If it were that easy, it would have been a done deal in 1971.
I have no idea what you want Democrats to admit they're wrong about. Ted Kennedy, a powerhouse in the senate, never could achieve his life's goal of universal health care. Barack Obama at least got something, and it was a miracle at that.
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The answer? Republicans and healthcare industry lobbyists.
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The authors of “Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda” wrote, “We believe that the next four years depend on citizens across the country standing indivisible against the Trump agenda."
I agree. So, after having been a life-long Independent voter, last week I changed my party affiliation to the Democratic Party. It was my first act of standing up against Trump. More to follow.
I agree. So, after having been a life-long Independent voter, last week I changed my party affiliation to the Democratic Party. It was my first act of standing up against Trump. More to follow.
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Long article, too long for my taste getting to the point, so I'll just riff off the title. The difference between the GOP as party of NO and the democrats as the party of NO is that the GOP was saying NO regardless of what Obama or the democrats were proposing, painting him as a socialist etc. when he was a centrist proposing mainly mainstream policies, appointing sound qualified people to positions, and behaving himself, and fueling opposition to him with misinformation, distortion, and lies beyond anything I've seen before. Trump and his staff have not behaved, he has appointed people whose mission it is to destroy the departments they are to head and/or wholly unqualified, his policies are mostly ludicrous by every measure based on populism and ideology but no sound basis. Yes, conservatives can say they felt the same way about Obama, but as I already said, they were willfully misinformed as his policies were mainstream, including the ACA which was mostly a rehash of earlier bipartisan bills and the that never got passed and the MA healthcare reform. So, no, it's not the same at all.
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This is just one more ridiculous article from a newspaper that has lost its grip on reality. To label the Democratic Party as the "Party of No," when we all know what that means, having been treated to a half dozen years of Republicanism, it is preposterous. The Times should be ashamed of itself, and it's in the process of losing readership for no other reason than the fact that it no longer represents the truth or "all the news that's fit to print." It's making it up to sell the paper. Disgusting.
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Is it just me, or does Trump look inordinately silly in his blue commander's cap?
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Trump in military gear did something I had not thought possible. He supplanted George W. Bush from when the latter donned a flight suit under that execrable "Mission Accomplished" banner. Trump is now the winner of the title, "history's greatest drag performance."
Trump hid from the uniform with a deferment for bone spurs he never had. In his speech to Congress Trump his behind the skirts of the widow of the Navy SEAL Trump's own bloodlust and incompetence killed.
Now Trump completes the trifecta with a drag performance before the assembled crew of an aircraft carrier. It was beyond silly. It was profoundly offensive.
Trump hid from the uniform with a deferment for bone spurs he never had. In his speech to Congress Trump his behind the skirts of the widow of the Navy SEAL Trump's own bloodlust and incompetence killed.
Now Trump completes the trifecta with a drag performance before the assembled crew of an aircraft carrier. It was beyond silly. It was profoundly offensive.
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Thank you. Best statement of Trump's ridiculous appearance in a military jacket and cap. The draft dodger with fake bone spurs. The bloated, overweight plutocrat parading around as if he had ever served his country in any capacity. He sits in the Oval Office due to a slim Electoral College vote from gerrymandered States. He is not presidential; he is uneducated; he demonstrates some kind of mental confusion in public. He tweets. He has accused an accomplished, educated former President of being a felon. How much longer do we have to suffer this buffoon? And, do we have to pay attention to a Speaker who worships at the shrine of a debunked Ayn Rand? Please, Senator Graham, make this go away.
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It needs repeating: This nation has undergone a right wing coup just as we have witnessed in other unfortunate countries. Trump who was put in office by a minority of voters is the front man for sinister a corporate fascist state known as the GOP.
We must stand up and demand that Democrats in Congress act against Trump with every force remaining. There is no room for Heidi Heitkamp and Joe Manchin roll-over Dems. Call it obstructionism, stonewalling - it doesn't matter, it is essential. Democrats must not allow Trump to fill a single Supreme Court seat.
We must energize voters to reject all Republican House and Senate candidates in 2018. Thia will be the most important midterm election in history and anti-Trump forces must vote. We cannot allow 25 million racists and Christian fundamentalists to control our nation of 326 million people. No! is the only sane response to the neo-fascism represented by Trump.
We must stand up and demand that Democrats in Congress act against Trump with every force remaining. There is no room for Heidi Heitkamp and Joe Manchin roll-over Dems. Call it obstructionism, stonewalling - it doesn't matter, it is essential. Democrats must not allow Trump to fill a single Supreme Court seat.
We must energize voters to reject all Republican House and Senate candidates in 2018. Thia will be the most important midterm election in history and anti-Trump forces must vote. We cannot allow 25 million racists and Christian fundamentalists to control our nation of 326 million people. No! is the only sane response to the neo-fascism represented by Trump.
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I have to laugh at your post. Yeah, racists and fascists... the deplorables...you just don't get it. Because you don't get it... you will see 8 years of Trump.
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Also, you should include the likes of independents that caucus with the Democrats like Angus King and Bernie Sanders, neither of whom can be counted on to promote unity in a policial party that continues to be fractured.
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"There is no room for Heidi Heitkamp and Joe Manchin roll-over Dems."
So true!
When I talk to the (dimly educated) white blue collar voters who pulled the level for The Donald, they all speak fondly of Nancy Pelosi (the grandmother they wished they had) & Senator Amy Schumer, hoping they will support hard left challengers in the primaries against these vulnerable Democrats.
So true!
When I talk to the (dimly educated) white blue collar voters who pulled the level for The Donald, they all speak fondly of Nancy Pelosi (the grandmother they wished they had) & Senator Amy Schumer, hoping they will support hard left challengers in the primaries against these vulnerable Democrats.
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Trump is leading us into a mess that will take years to recover from. May the great forces of good triumph with a loud, "Hell No." -proud to be on the right side of history.
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After Hillary claiming that she was leading by 90/10 % and then loosing it all the Democrats have become a joke. To be so far removed from reality has set a new record in Nonsense.
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It is a kiss of death to be considered a shoo-in under the Electoral College voter-nullification system, because every excess vote for the winner is just thrown away.
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No, there was never any such claim from Clinton. Trump voters need alternate facts to rationalize their bizarre worldview.
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We want the Congress to act in the interests of the whole country but when the Republicans refer to the people they are referring to those who voted for them, nobody else. It forces the Democrats to resist what the Republicans are doing because the Republicans are refusing to consider what really benefits all, focusing upon policies that have benefited a few, alone, and left the great majority worse off. To work with Republicans at this time is to work against the interests of the entire country.
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Do what the GOP did. Every human system has imperfections. Pick on any one, and call the whole program a failure due to any small flaw. In fact, pick any flaw in Trump or Ryan or any rep or senator, and insist they are all total failures.
Or, more practically, ask any Conservative to name any country that successfully governs by small government, low tax, low regulation philosophy. Any country...or any Red State.
Or, more practically, ask any Conservative to name any country that successfully governs by small government, low tax, low regulation philosophy. Any country...or any Red State.
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I can't help noticing...
John Kennedy beat Nixon. Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford. Ronald Reagan beat Carter. Bill Clinton beat George H.W. Bush. George Bush beat Al Gore and then John Kerry. Barack Obama beat McCain and then Romney.
Which of those winners was "more qualified" than the person he defeated. Which of the winners was more "charismatic" or at least more "fun to have a beer with" than the loser.
So the Democrats found a way to nominate a "well-qualified" person who had less than 50% approval rating in the country before the election.
It's great to try to put together a winning governing strategy to revive the party but how about spending some time finding candidates who know how to win an election? Bernie Sanders for on was winning elections for how many decades? And Martin O'Malley. And Jim Webb.
John Kennedy beat Nixon. Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford. Ronald Reagan beat Carter. Bill Clinton beat George H.W. Bush. George Bush beat Al Gore and then John Kerry. Barack Obama beat McCain and then Romney.
Which of those winners was "more qualified" than the person he defeated. Which of the winners was more "charismatic" or at least more "fun to have a beer with" than the loser.
So the Democrats found a way to nominate a "well-qualified" person who had less than 50% approval rating in the country before the election.
It's great to try to put together a winning governing strategy to revive the party but how about spending some time finding candidates who know how to win an election? Bernie Sanders for on was winning elections for how many decades? And Martin O'Malley. And Jim Webb.
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"When we are clear about what we believe, WHEN WE FIGHT FOR PEOPLE, we'll win. To beat right-wing populism, maybe you needed left-wing populism".
Right there, in a nutshell, is the "blueprint". Dems will ignore it at their peril.
What's so disheartening to me is that even now, so many Dems - and especially those in power - still don't get it. But had they only rallied behind Sanders, we would be cheering on an Sanders Presidency, and not being steamrolled by a Trump Reich. It's too late for that of course, but it's not too late to wake up and fight for the agenda espoused by Sanders and Warren, and a few others. If the Dems fail do this, they will deserve to go the way of the Whigs.
Right there, in a nutshell, is the "blueprint". Dems will ignore it at their peril.
What's so disheartening to me is that even now, so many Dems - and especially those in power - still don't get it. But had they only rallied behind Sanders, we would be cheering on an Sanders Presidency, and not being steamrolled by a Trump Reich. It's too late for that of course, but it's not too late to wake up and fight for the agenda espoused by Sanders and Warren, and a few others. If the Dems fail do this, they will deserve to go the way of the Whigs.
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I'm not sure the election of Bernie Sanders would have been accompanied by a Democratic pickup of seats in the House and Senate, so riding a Bernie wave still seems unrealistic.
However, if you stripped his platform of new spending -- like free college for all -- and focused on worker and consumer rights and protections, you'd be closer.
This missing ingredient remains and it's puzzling why it has received so little attention: a Democratic plan for revitalizing careers and communities hit hard by globalization.
That, I believe, is what gave Trump an "in" among those desperate for a message of uplift -- which, of course, in Trump's hands was filled by serial lying.
However, if you stripped his platform of new spending -- like free college for all -- and focused on worker and consumer rights and protections, you'd be closer.
This missing ingredient remains and it's puzzling why it has received so little attention: a Democratic plan for revitalizing careers and communities hit hard by globalization.
That, I believe, is what gave Trump an "in" among those desperate for a message of uplift -- which, of course, in Trump's hands was filled by serial lying.
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Democrats cannot fulfill their responsibilities in governance with the current President and those dominating the Congress, so they are forced to be the Party of No. The Republicans were the Party of No during the Obama Presidency because they could not see a future if Obama succeeded so governing the country was seen by them as a losing proposition. Trump and the Republicans dominating the Congress are not partners in government with anyone else, they are people who have the power to implement the most ridiculous ideas in the history of this country and they are hell bent on doing so. The result will be disastrous and will take years to correct. In order to govern as they want, they must repeal the ACA even if doing so causes great suffering because the country must trust markets rather than the government, not because of any other reason. The country must stop working with global alliances because the U.S. must be free to throw it's power around without any constraints, even though this kind of situation produced colonialism and two World Wars. The country must defund government and transfer as much wealth as possible to the very wealthy and the biggest corporations because they will use the money to invest in every kind of new and old venture imaginable, they will not hold onto the money, keeping it out of the hands of the government and most people because doing so would risk losing it. The unemployed are not so because of a lack of work but because they are lazy.
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The Democratic party needs to decide which of its two most identifiable factions should dominate:
- The Wall-Street/Corporatist Faction represented by fossils like Schumer and Clinton,
or
- The BLM/Muslim/Illegal-Alien/Transgender Bathroom Faction represented by Sanders and Warren.
I'm sure one or the other is certain to appeal to the majority of the American people.
- The Wall-Street/Corporatist Faction represented by fossils like Schumer and Clinton,
or
- The BLM/Muslim/Illegal-Alien/Transgender Bathroom Faction represented by Sanders and Warren.
I'm sure one or the other is certain to appeal to the majority of the American people.
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I'd settle for Republicans and Democrats deciding To stand up for the Constitution and stand against corruption and tyranny.
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It would appear that political corruption is far more prevalent in all of the inner cities controlled by democrat political machines.
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You're kidding right? Both are extreme in their constituency and rhetoric and lie far outside the mainstream values of most voting Americans.
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Excellent reporting by Mr. Homans. Thank you.
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Hummm, consider what Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone) wrote about the likelihood of change within the Democratic National Party:
"(The Democratic National Party) listening (to average citizens) would be really successful; that would be the logical thing to do. That means, of course, that it’s not going to happen. What they’re going to do instead is try to do something that looks like that, but is the opposite — a hired mannequin for the same financial interests that have always run the party. If they were smart, they would do the other thing. Don’t you think?"
I would have to agree with Mr. Taibbi here. The DNC has failed the country and I think they will continue to fail until they serve the average citizen instead of "financial interests".
"(The Democratic National Party) listening (to average citizens) would be really successful; that would be the logical thing to do. That means, of course, that it’s not going to happen. What they’re going to do instead is try to do something that looks like that, but is the opposite — a hired mannequin for the same financial interests that have always run the party. If they were smart, they would do the other thing. Don’t you think?"
I would have to agree with Mr. Taibbi here. The DNC has failed the country and I think they will continue to fail until they serve the average citizen instead of "financial interests".
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This is a really sad scenario on the Democratic Party no matter how you look at it. Reid and Schumer. Elizabeth Warren. Pelosi, McAuliffe, Holder, Feinstdin, and on and on and on. People who have never done anything remotely compromising in their years in government. Itsxabout attack, attack, whine, bicker, andvmost of all, their relentless mantra of "do as wecsay, wecatecall knowing, we will take care everyone!" No! The country has changed. We want adults, representatives who LISTEN, instead of preach or slander or act like babies. The David Brocks of the world are vicious, mean, dangerous people...and he has so much evil power...yet, he is patronized, adored by the Democratic party. Sure, the Republicans have their horrible agendas and vendettas, but they have youth, they have new voices, they have ideas!! The Democrats are old, old news, cry babies...always looking behind, blaming...never moving ahead!
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In spite of all their weakness the Democrats have been able to do one good thing and that is to elect good presidents. If the Republicans have youth, new voices, and ideas; how did they end up electing Trump?
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A more subjective and biased statement couldn' t exist
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So Democrats are "vicious", "mean", "dangerous" "evil" and "slander" "act like babies", and the Republican party is the party of youth and ideas... What dimension are you living in? The Republican party illegally gerrymandered it's way into bulletproof majorities in the House, and it is attempting to take access to affordable healthcare away from 20 million people, deport millions of people who are our neighbors, ignore climate change, rape the environment, stifle consumer protection, eliminate Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security as we know it, and silence the press.
Hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, and people of color are at an all time high since Trump's inauguration. David Duke is cheering racist comments by Congressman Steve King and Trump's racist policies. That's "evil" and Democrats expect their leaders to resist it.
Slander? Donald Trump slandered President Obama by falsely claiming, with no proof, that he was unlawfully wiretapped prior to the election. Prior to the election, Trump slandered, let's see... his opponent, a former Miss Universe, a gold star mother, John McCain, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz's father...
The Republican party ran the economy into the ditch in 2007, obstructed all attempts to spur economic recovery, and will run the economy back into the ditch sooner or later. Trumpcare looks to be a disaster for small hospitals and rural healthcare generally. Trump voters will blame the Democrats when the Republicans strip them of their healthcare.
Hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, and people of color are at an all time high since Trump's inauguration. David Duke is cheering racist comments by Congressman Steve King and Trump's racist policies. That's "evil" and Democrats expect their leaders to resist it.
Slander? Donald Trump slandered President Obama by falsely claiming, with no proof, that he was unlawfully wiretapped prior to the election. Prior to the election, Trump slandered, let's see... his opponent, a former Miss Universe, a gold star mother, John McCain, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz's father...
The Republican party ran the economy into the ditch in 2007, obstructed all attempts to spur economic recovery, and will run the economy back into the ditch sooner or later. Trumpcare looks to be a disaster for small hospitals and rural healthcare generally. Trump voters will blame the Democrats when the Republicans strip them of their healthcare.
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The sheer volume, in numbers and intensity, of "NO", that we're hearing throughout the country is coming from the American people. "NO" to indecency and crudeness, to dismantling our government, to abandoning our Allies, to destroying our environment, worker's rights, public education, etc.
If the Democrats are now the party of "NO", it is because they are trying to keep up with the American people.
If the Democrats are now the party of "NO", it is because they are trying to keep up with the American people.
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Interesting article but to imply that the party of governance, as it comes to terms with the wreckage just weeks after the disaster, now can be likened to the party that did nothing except to say "no" for eight full years is a totally false equivalence.
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The difference is, Republicans said no just to say no, even when proposals were right in their sweet spot. Their primary aim was to ruin Obama's Presidency, not prevent bad policies. Democrats should untie behind No at bad choices, but at least hear things out and try compromise where possible. Propose good choices and let Republicans No, instead of propose no choices at all, as the Republicans did for 8 years.
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I was one of over 4 million Americans in over 400 marches across our great country the day after Trump was inaugurated. It was a wonderful, peaceful, inspiring event. Now I am one of thousands of "huddles" facilitated by the Women's March's 10 actions in Trump's first 100 days. A huddle is a small group (12-15 people) to focus on resisting the negative actions of Trump & his administration and on promoting democracy.
It feels GREAT to be taking action against the horrors of Trump & the Congressional GOP as part of a large movement. Today & tomorrow I'm writing postcards to Trump & Congressional members. Join millions who are mailing a postcard to Trump on March 15 to let him know you oppose him & his administration!
It feels GREAT to be taking action against the horrors of Trump & the Congressional GOP as part of a large movement. Today & tomorrow I'm writing postcards to Trump & Congressional members. Join millions who are mailing a postcard to Trump on March 15 to let him know you oppose him & his administration!
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Thank you, I will.
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Hyperbole is not an affective argument.
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Um, and other than allowing you to pat yourself on the back, what do you think that's going to accomplish? Seriously.
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"The new party of no" implies that the Democrats are now mimicking Republican obstructionism purely for the sake of obstructionism. When the Republican leadership promised to make Obama a one-term president, the reason was pure and utter racism, irrational hostility against a reasonable man. We now have a mad bully in the White House who is surrounded by seemingly un-vetted, lying, nefarious advisors, and gets his ideas from watching far right media. The difference couldn't be more obvious.
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Translation: Their obstructionism bad, our obstructionism good.
The moral certainty of every inquisition.
The moral certainty of every inquisition.
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No voting. Therein is the problem.
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The Electoral College provides only an illusion of voting for the majority of people who vote in presidential elections. This is why nobody is represented above the slithery 50 states in Washington, and voters see the whole process as an empty ritual.
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Very interesting, but wow does this miss the mark. Mr. Homans describes the candidates as if there was no baggage. The reality is that Hillary came with tremendous bagges. He name. Weiner. Bengazi. Judicial Watch. And the Republicans in Congress--as repulsive as the current Republican leadership is, before the election it was hard to think of a Clinton presidency without thought of four year of rabid Republican resistance to ANYTHING. Any discussion about the election needs to account for the fatigue factor.
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FBI Director James Comey's stunt to gratuitously smear her with Anthony Weiner's name in the week before the election should have gotten him fired on the spot.
Basic decency has been Trumped in the USA.
Basic decency has been Trumped in the USA.
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there is not one thing dems.could say yes to so far.everyone in trump's cabinet is diametrically opposed to anything that benefits anyone but themselves.They care not a wit for the environment,infrastructure,healthcare,world peace,education,the poor,anyone who is not white,male and rich.I never thought people could be so evil til I saw trump,his family and anyone involved with them.The GOP obstructed Obama because they are bigots,the democrats are obstructing the GOP because they are deplorable.
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Financial success is an immediate sign of criminality for sure. Thanks for sharing.
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Rich? Tell me, do you know any poor people who are hiring?
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You all are missing the point. I have an MBA and voted for Trump, and know many others similarly situated. He did not get zero percent of the vote, even in California. He is a bore and an idiot in too many ways. The whole point is to reclaim the country for the individual, and stop the unrelenting Borg from absorbing us all. This country was founded on INDIVIDUAL rights as specifically set forth in the Constitution. The country is the United STATES of America, not America, not North America. We are a group of individuals with some common ideas, the most important of which is to not be told what to do by our "betters". Trump really could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and not lose a single supporter, as long at the "other side" is all about controlling every aspect of our lives. "Give me liberty or give me death" was not a socialist idea, but it was very progressive for the time. If you want to win elections, learn to leave people the hell alone. Clinton's presidency was the closest thing to where the people are that I have seen in my lifetime, and today's progressives, including his wife, deride all of his accomplishments as right wing nonsense. He is the last president that actually did what he was elected to do, that is, the will of the people. I want effective government, but when political capital is expended on bathroom choice and forced labor for wedding cakes, you will lose.
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Thank you. I'm sure you be shouted down, but you speak the truth.
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How does supporting Trump who admires autocrats like Putin and Duterte, blatantly uses public office for private gain, attacks freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and science, breaks promises and lies with abandon and without shame support individual rights?
Please explain and you won't be shouted down (unless you use the infamous Gish Gallop to preclude response).
Perhaps you missed Pres. Obama's many attempts to seek compromise with Republicans and his withdrawal of troops from Iraq, both in fulfillment of promises made to the electorate.
Please explain and you won't be shouted down (unless you use the infamous Gish Gallop to preclude response).
Perhaps you missed Pres. Obama's many attempts to seek compromise with Republicans and his withdrawal of troops from Iraq, both in fulfillment of promises made to the electorate.
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Your freedom is no freedom for the people who will suffer because of this odious man you chose to elect. Their pain is on your conscience.
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Schumer's fires aggravate my asthma. He better do better than that.
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The article says Democrats, by contrast [to the Republicans], "have generally been united by a belief in government that tries to do big things, in the manner of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal or Johnson’s Great Society or..."
Or, I would add, Eisenhower's Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 which was responsible for the massive construction of America's interstate highway system. Republicans, too, used to believe that government had a role to play in our society. Sadly, not anymore.
Or, I would add, Eisenhower's Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 which was responsible for the massive construction of America's interstate highway system. Republicans, too, used to believe that government had a role to play in our society. Sadly, not anymore.
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It's great to say no where possible on legislation. Even better would be to have some NY Dems suck up to Ivanka and Kushner, get them to push Bannon out. Then Trump would be able to tack back to the bread and butter issues Dems could support, like a trillion dollar handout for new construction.
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Democrats, I'm one, allowed hate groups, BLM the most egregious, to hijack party. Funny how silent BLM has been lately, also interesting how BLM shows more deference to Trump than the hateful anti-semitism they spewed out against walk the walk civil rights supporting Bernie Sanders.
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BLM is the furthest thing from a "hate group". How is trying to save black lives construed as "hate"?
Trump's Chief of Staff is an avowed white supremacist, and his cabinet is a rouge's gallery of hatred. Trump's entire campaign was based on racial-ethnic hatred. Even his campaign kickoff speech was nothing but a racial screed. And the bizarre claims of "I know you are but what am I", accusing others of bigotry, are standard response from Trump acolytes.
Trump's Chief of Staff is an avowed white supremacist, and his cabinet is a rouge's gallery of hatred. Trump's entire campaign was based on racial-ethnic hatred. Even his campaign kickoff speech was nothing but a racial screed. And the bizarre claims of "I know you are but what am I", accusing others of bigotry, are standard response from Trump acolytes.
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So, what have Republicans given the Democrats to say "Yes" to? I heard a horrendous interview on CNN, criticizing a Dem senator for not "working with" the Trump administration. What should they work on? A useless wall? Deporting mothers whose children were born here? Destroying healthcare for millions who received it for the first time under the ACA? Antagonizing our allies? Being Putin's pal and invading Ukraine?
There is NOTHING the Party of the Rich and Entitled have suggested that any Democrat or liberal or progressive can agree with. The Democrats had better get used to being the Party of NO, or they will see themselves replaced with people who will say NO.
There is NOTHING the Party of the Rich and Entitled have suggested that any Democrat or liberal or progressive can agree with. The Democrats had better get used to being the Party of NO, or they will see themselves replaced with people who will say NO.
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The Democratic Party does not appear to have a coherent management strategy for the public sector of the economy to sell to the US public.
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Since 1994, Republicans have actively sought to undermine Democratic presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Republicans sought to overturn a national election through a roving independent prosecutor and later impeachment trial. During the Obama presidency, Senator Mitch McConnell suggested the most important task was limiting Obama to one term, while he and his Republican colleagues refused to work with the Obama Administration on any legislation. In the final year of the Obama presidency, McConnell went so far as to refuse to allow Obama to exercise his constitutional power to appoint a justice to the Supreme Court. These were not principled stands on policy issues, these were attempts, some of them successful, to hobble Democratic presidents.
Today, Democrats are taking stands to ensure that cabinet-level appointees are vetted, that major pieces of legislation are not rammed through in overnight committee votes, and that any connection between the President and Russia is legitimately investigated.
So Democrats may be saying "no" more often now, but equating that with the obstreperous and anti-democratic behavior of Republicans over the past 22 years is to again draw the type of false parallels between Democrats and Republicans that has permitted Republicans to continue to engage in the worst type of political behavior.
Today, Democrats are taking stands to ensure that cabinet-level appointees are vetted, that major pieces of legislation are not rammed through in overnight committee votes, and that any connection between the President and Russia is legitimately investigated.
So Democrats may be saying "no" more often now, but equating that with the obstreperous and anti-democratic behavior of Republicans over the past 22 years is to again draw the type of false parallels between Democrats and Republicans that has permitted Republicans to continue to engage in the worst type of political behavior.
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Republicans get elected to prove their thesis that government is inherently incompetent, and they deliver splendidly.
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Democrats proffer thesis that government would be wonderful if they have full control, then keep losing elections so they never have to be proven wrong.
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Trump is such low IQ person it’s unbelievable. He is short-tempered
and an dishonest business man, NEVER HAD EXPIRIENCE OF INTERNATIONAL POLICY. Ignorance and arrogance have no excuse, but Mr. Trump will find one! When can we begin the impeachment process?.
and an dishonest business man, NEVER HAD EXPIRIENCE OF INTERNATIONAL POLICY. Ignorance and arrogance have no excuse, but Mr. Trump will find one! When can we begin the impeachment process?.
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Listen to the rousing new protest song: "The Good Fight" by Joe Hill Heratlanders on YouTube with scenes from The Women's March!
http://www.mikekonopka.com/thegoodfight.htm
http://www.mikekonopka.com/thegoodfight.htm
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Sanders, Warren and some other democrats can't be labeled the party of No for the sake of it or as a strategy for eventually assuming Power for themselves and rummaging policies of the previous administration just because they're self promoting. McConnell and the rest declared a anti Obama platform before he ever did anything to be opposed to. No, democrats are the party that try to authentically represent people who are struggling while republicans have never shaken the label that they represent the privileged class and only claim an interest in the hopes of working Americans as a by product of feathering the nests of campaign contributors. Sure, both parties do it, but for republicans its their Organizing Principle and their first foremost intention. Any protest should be parked at the door of republicans since they're the ones in the process of tearing down our civilization for their own selfish goals to make the already wealthy even wealthier. That only sounds cliché because making it such is a tactic republicans use to poison the well. I hate being lied to. So much evidence abounds its a wonder republicans still exist. But Limbaugh's brainwashing machine has been reinforcing the disease for decades now .
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Mr Homans is too "inside DC" and too connected therein to see what is actually happening. Too many lunches with congresspeople.
The Democratic party is in real danger of losing ever more Democrat voters unless our elected Democrat leaders start saying "No" more often to Trump. Not less often Mr Homans. More often.
Elizabeth Warren is a great template for what more elected lawmakers should be doing. Homans doesnt get it.
The Democratic party is in real danger of losing ever more Democrat voters unless our elected Democrat leaders start saying "No" more often to Trump. Not less often Mr Homans. More often.
Elizabeth Warren is a great template for what more elected lawmakers should be doing. Homans doesnt get it.
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Had more progressives and young people voted, and had the DNC not tilted to Hillary, Bernie would have been the nominee. It's all speculation for sure, but he would have denied Trump the trade issue that broke the Democratic firewall and I think he would have been much more effective in the debates. A shame; if wishing could make it so.
Democrats have to cut the common ground Kumbaya crap and deal with the Republicans for what they are: fascist, racist gangsters and willing prostitutes for thei one percent plutocrat puppet masters. They have to stop bringing a knife to a gunfight and realize the GOP idea of compromise is submission and surrender. They have to run candidates at every level, from the school board to the state house with a message of economic fairness and some Old Testament justice for the Wall Street corporate criminals and their GOP frontmen who have stolen our country.
Democrats have to cut the common ground Kumbaya crap and deal with the Republicans for what they are: fascist, racist gangsters and willing prostitutes for thei one percent plutocrat puppet masters. They have to stop bringing a knife to a gunfight and realize the GOP idea of compromise is submission and surrender. They have to run candidates at every level, from the school board to the state house with a message of economic fairness and some Old Testament justice for the Wall Street corporate criminals and their GOP frontmen who have stolen our country.
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Amen to that.
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The President's approval ratings are at an all-time low for new Presidents', even among his own party. He has already lost the independents that swung over to him in a moment of confusion in the heat of an enormously propagandized, deeply compromised election, and not one Democrat will ever, ever vote for this monster or the GOP's monstrous agenda. Meanwhile, Obama left office with one of the highest ratings in history, and despite the electoral college results, the Democrats gained back seats in both the House and the Senate. If the Democrats are now the "party of no" it is because the American people have become clear on what Trump and the GOP intend to bring and are screaming NO!
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@Joe from Boston
Do you really think the people who were uninsured before Obama care vote in large numbers?
Most don't. And for those who do, health care is hardly their #1 issue.
Do you really think the people who were uninsured before Obama care vote in large numbers?
Most don't. And for those who do, health care is hardly their #1 issue.
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Like most people, what someone else may face is not the #1 issue. Only when one has a gay child (Portman/Cheney) does a politician support gay marriage. Or a husband with Alzheimers does one support stem cell research (Nancy Reagan).
But I hope that the young who were eligible but did not vote in the last election will bring sanity back to our nation and political system. After all, it is they and their children who will have to breathe the air and drink the water that is no longer going to be protected by the EPA. And Ebola and Zika are just the tip of the iceberg of medical crises coming our way when research funding and medical care will be curtailed under any Ryancare or Trumpcare.
But I hope that the young who were eligible but did not vote in the last election will bring sanity back to our nation and political system. After all, it is they and their children who will have to breathe the air and drink the water that is no longer going to be protected by the EPA. And Ebola and Zika are just the tip of the iceberg of medical crises coming our way when research funding and medical care will be curtailed under any Ryancare or Trumpcare.
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This is a hopeful take on the party but the fact that the DNC elected Perez to head it, and left Brazile in place until Perez was elected, makes me extremely skeptical of whether the party actually respects the grassroots. I also take issue with the idea that there was less "enthusiasm, energy and passion" during the 2016 campaign than there is now; there was ENORMOUS enthusiasm, energy and passion for the candidate - Senator Sanders - that the DNC and most party elected officials did everything they could to undermine - handing us trump on a silver platter.
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Hear, hear.
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yes, they have to own their part for the 2016 disaster and bring forward people who people believe in - Sanders, Warren, Biden.
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The Democrats who were in control of the party before the election are still in control today. They learned nothing about the will of the people. Time to bring in new blood that is not beholden to the wealthy donor class. Pelosi, Schumer, Brazille, Perez, Wasserman-Schultz, Hoyer, and 70% of the rest of the Democrats are political dinosaurs. They talk the talk but no progressive or liberal believes they will walk the walk.
Democrats who think they can double down on politics as usual will be in for another rude awakening in 2018, 2020 and beyond. Democratic establishment is apparently incapable of understanding that if you aren't part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. Just say No, obstruct and object is not the way forward - it is a loser's ploy when they don't have the answers people want to hear.
Break the corrupt political duopoly, restore democracy and have faith in the collective good of the citizens of the United States of America. The Constitution is constructed around liberal beliefs which strive for the greater good of the greatest number of people. Conservativism is an aberration based on illegitimate, debunked and contradictory beliefs and will never stand the test of time.
Democrats who think they can double down on politics as usual will be in for another rude awakening in 2018, 2020 and beyond. Democratic establishment is apparently incapable of understanding that if you aren't part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. Just say No, obstruct and object is not the way forward - it is a loser's ploy when they don't have the answers people want to hear.
Break the corrupt political duopoly, restore democracy and have faith in the collective good of the citizens of the United States of America. The Constitution is constructed around liberal beliefs which strive for the greater good of the greatest number of people. Conservativism is an aberration based on illegitimate, debunked and contradictory beliefs and will never stand the test of time.
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What's going on isnt even really the Republican's but they have hitched their wagon to the Trump train and that train is headed to Ogliarchville.
With his friends Putin, Erdogan, and the Banking and Oil Industries those are the "DEEP" actors in this play.
With his friends Putin, Erdogan, and the Banking and Oil Industries those are the "DEEP" actors in this play.
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To all Bernie Sanders supporters that are still complaining about the outcome of the primaries, once and for all, PLEASE GET OVER IT!
I assure you, Bernie Sanders already has!
That being said, while true that Sanders did not not carry the baggage of HRC, he could not beat her at the primary level.
This is a fact and it is time you all accept it.
Next, let's say he beat HRC, if you think the moniker "SOCIALIST" is a winning strategy in this divided country, then you really do not understand how much more nastier things could have gotten.
Repeat the word "SOCIALIST" a zillion times and the margin of election loss would have been much, MUCH bigger.
This is reality and nuance would not have carried the day.
Last, using Western Europe, in light of its upheavals and regardless of Putin's influence, is also not a winning strategy. Health care, perhaps, but even in this respect, NOT ALL OF THEIR SYSTEMS ARE SINGLE PAYER!
Heavily regulated, most definitely, but there is no one size fits all health care system out there! All have different nuances and variables, including privately held insurance, but what is different is the kind of management of cost.
While I respected the basic humanity of Bernie Sanders, I did not like looking backward in order to go forward. It is the same issue I had with HRC and, by extension, the party.
The "vision" thing does matter. Bad enough the GOP looks backwards. Must we do the same?
I assure you, Bernie Sanders already has!
That being said, while true that Sanders did not not carry the baggage of HRC, he could not beat her at the primary level.
This is a fact and it is time you all accept it.
Next, let's say he beat HRC, if you think the moniker "SOCIALIST" is a winning strategy in this divided country, then you really do not understand how much more nastier things could have gotten.
Repeat the word "SOCIALIST" a zillion times and the margin of election loss would have been much, MUCH bigger.
This is reality and nuance would not have carried the day.
Last, using Western Europe, in light of its upheavals and regardless of Putin's influence, is also not a winning strategy. Health care, perhaps, but even in this respect, NOT ALL OF THEIR SYSTEMS ARE SINGLE PAYER!
Heavily regulated, most definitely, but there is no one size fits all health care system out there! All have different nuances and variables, including privately held insurance, but what is different is the kind of management of cost.
While I respected the basic humanity of Bernie Sanders, I did not like looking backward in order to go forward. It is the same issue I had with HRC and, by extension, the party.
The "vision" thing does matter. Bad enough the GOP looks backwards. Must we do the same?
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The one thing we don't have to worry about is our health care. It just is.
Heck, we have even had doctors on planes for just about forever taking health care to people beyond the black stump.
Private health insurance is an option, not a necessity. I pay my 2% Medicare levy and my taxes top up the system. Set and forget.
Heck, we have even had doctors on planes for just about forever taking health care to people beyond the black stump.
Private health insurance is an option, not a necessity. I pay my 2% Medicare levy and my taxes top up the system. Set and forget.
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Clearly, your attitude concerning Bernie Sanders, his ideas and his chance of defeating Donal Trump(despite all the polls indicating he would have easily defeated him) is why the democratic party is in the fix it is in today. Trump portrayed himself as a "right-wing populist"(fraudulent as it was)that many mistakenly bought in to. The democratic party failed miserably in recognizing this and instead of putting a "real" alternative populist left-wing candidate like Sanders to run against him, they insisted on a long-time "establishment corporately controlled up to her neck in baggage" candidate that more and more of the electorate were coming to despise!
Frankly, Sanders was the one that was looking forward. it was those like yourself and the democratic party and their outdated ideas that in the last ten years has resulted in a party on the verge of extinction.
Frankly, Sanders was the one that was looking forward. it was those like yourself and the democratic party and their outdated ideas that in the last ten years has resulted in a party on the verge of extinction.
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Bernie wasn't looking backward. He was thinking big. He couldn't beat Hilary in the primaries because of the rigged superdelegates system endorsed by Debbie Wasserman and the DNC. Not so "democratic" as a party after all and therein lies the rub.
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For the past six years the Republicans have tried to pass bills in the house and Senate and the Senate has blocked them or the President. The Democrats have been the party of no since then. They still are. The House of Representative is were the budget originates, and Democrats have said no, no, no. One of the reasons the media has been in such low regard, there or many, is that they have not recognized this simple fact.
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It's all about money. Want to really scare the Repub's and the tweeter in chief, give them a sense that the Blue States, who have lots of their desired ka-ching, will look to unite and secede if desired compromise isn't being established in this current political charade.
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Actually, secession should be presented as a real possibility.
After all, to say that there are not irreconcilable differences might just be an understatement!
That being said, here is a classic problem with the Democrats and how they present themselves.
What prevented Democrats from going all in for an argument about going after employers in the undocumented worker/illegal immigrant fight?
It is one thing to want to look at the undocumented worker's plight, but you end up being tone death in terms of the outcome for your citizens!
On the other hand, what prevented Democrats from using Donald Trump as the classic abuser of the undocumented worker? What prevented them from yelling out "CRIMINAL", which he is under the current law. Why not yell "Lock Him Up" just on this front alone?
This, in a nutshell, is the primary problem with the Democrats!
Here is a simple, uncomplicated message to counter the mass deportations and demonization argument. "Donald Trump employs illegals and profits at their expense. He is the real criminal. LOCK HIM UP!"
Then build policy around this very simple message, including a form of anmesty!
Ironically, there was a politician who used this argument and ultimately succeeded, Ronald Reagan and while he built his argument around the employer, his laws were weak in terms of enforcement.
It is not just looking backwards that matters. Looking backwards is fine if you learn from that history.
It is time for us to learn from that history too!
After all, to say that there are not irreconcilable differences might just be an understatement!
That being said, here is a classic problem with the Democrats and how they present themselves.
What prevented Democrats from going all in for an argument about going after employers in the undocumented worker/illegal immigrant fight?
It is one thing to want to look at the undocumented worker's plight, but you end up being tone death in terms of the outcome for your citizens!
On the other hand, what prevented Democrats from using Donald Trump as the classic abuser of the undocumented worker? What prevented them from yelling out "CRIMINAL", which he is under the current law. Why not yell "Lock Him Up" just on this front alone?
This, in a nutshell, is the primary problem with the Democrats!
Here is a simple, uncomplicated message to counter the mass deportations and demonization argument. "Donald Trump employs illegals and profits at their expense. He is the real criminal. LOCK HIM UP!"
Then build policy around this very simple message, including a form of anmesty!
Ironically, there was a politician who used this argument and ultimately succeeded, Ronald Reagan and while he built his argument around the employer, his laws were weak in terms of enforcement.
It is not just looking backwards that matters. Looking backwards is fine if you learn from that history.
It is time for us to learn from that history too!
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The Tea Party and their Republican enablers re-wrote the rules of political battle in 2010. Democrats now have no choice but to play by those rules, though it is counter to their accustomed civil tendencies. It's a sad thing for American politics, but it's the cul-de-sac we now find ourselves facing.
Humor will be the only relief from rancor.
Jon Stewart in 2020!
Humor will be the only relief from rancor.
Jon Stewart in 2020!
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Is this a mistake? An article that has just the slightest hint that maybe a tiny bit of cooperation to solve things would be a good thing?
I guess I'm just disgusted with both sides but then again I'm a radical centrist - a species that apparently no longer exists.
I guess I'm just disgusted with both sides but then again I'm a radical centrist - a species that apparently no longer exists.
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Too many Democrats admitted to magical thinking in the last election. Many, after seeing the election of their icon, Obama, the first non white to run for the and win the white house, convinced themselves that they were now the permanent party of the majority. What the youthful and "occasional" voters who elected the Obama Presidency did not understand, and perhaps never understood, was that the USA is not a monarchy, where an all powerful executive is able to wave a magic wand and order things done. In fact, Obama ended his Presidency much as Clinton had, with little accomplished because of GOP resistance, both in Congress and the Senate and of course, the state houses. Obama literally "slunk" away from his last term without even the strength or ability to see his,(our?), legitimate, 2016 Supreme court nominee seated. This was among the weakest acts of any President since 1859. The ACA was a reworked Massachusetts medical insurance plan created by Mitt Romney! The GOP have forgotten this, as have the Democrats. Obama's years were more triumphs of GOP recalcitrance and Democratic weakness, obscured by the color of Obama's skin making him seem a triumph. Obama was a moderate, Rockefeller like, middle of the road conservative, and never pretended to be anything else. So, until Democrats understand that real power is exercised from the Capitol and not just the White House, we will never recover the influence we had between '33 and '68.
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When Obama's supporters failed to turn out big-time for the Democrats in the census year election of 2010, they essentially cut him adrift and lost control at the state level for the rest of the decade.
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A single payer option would have saved him. Heck, being able to discharge tuition debt in bankruptcy would have saved him. One jailed too big to fail fish would have saved him. What would he have fought for if he had it to do over again? Nothing? Anything? One thing that wasn't Republican lite?
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Blue state, you nailed it. He abandoned what he said he'd fight for.
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In the last 10 years, other than losing over 900 seats at the local, state and federal levels along with the Republicans now controlling all THREE levels of government and two-thirds of the states, really, what choice do the democrats have? It is a wake up call that actually only happened because of the ascendance of Bernie Sanders and to a lesser extent Elizabeth Warren out pounding the pavement telling their constituents what is going to happen with Donald Trump and the Republicans in power.
The problem is, of course, that in electing Thomas Perez as chairman of the DNC instead of Keith Ellison, the party STILL insists on sending the wrong message to the future of the party, its younger members and working people, hence, one of the reason why they lost the election to Donald Trump in the first place. Forever clinging to the notion that Hillary Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump, the majority of those from one state, California, is not a reason to continue with the same outdated policy initiatives to getting elected.
Establishment, corporately controlled democrats insist on holding on to their jobs at all costs so the idea that they are being the so-called aggressive opposition remains to be seen and frankly, I really do not think their heart is in it. The interim elections will determine once and for all if the democrats as a national party will continue to exist and frankly, as things are unfolding, I have my doubts.
The problem is, of course, that in electing Thomas Perez as chairman of the DNC instead of Keith Ellison, the party STILL insists on sending the wrong message to the future of the party, its younger members and working people, hence, one of the reason why they lost the election to Donald Trump in the first place. Forever clinging to the notion that Hillary Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump, the majority of those from one state, California, is not a reason to continue with the same outdated policy initiatives to getting elected.
Establishment, corporately controlled democrats insist on holding on to their jobs at all costs so the idea that they are being the so-called aggressive opposition remains to be seen and frankly, I really do not think their heart is in it. The interim elections will determine once and for all if the democrats as a national party will continue to exist and frankly, as things are unfolding, I have my doubts.
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I agree. It's unlikely the Democrats will change their ways. They can never accept the notion that most Americans are somewhat left or right of moderate and eschew the extreme liberalism of the ruling elite. Trump's unlikely victory should have given them a clue.
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If we Democrats had exercised some realism, true vision and creativity instead of falling into line behind the inevitable one, we might have been the party of "let's go!" rather than "no."
Please spare me the Russians or winning the plurality vote. The Democratic nominee should have been streets ahead of shambling know-nothing Trump.
Please spare me the Russians or winning the plurality vote. The Democratic nominee should have been streets ahead of shambling know-nothing Trump.
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Thank you - I've been saying the same thing for months. Maybe a fresh face that is not doctrinaire.
The one thing that we better be careful of is that I worry that Trump is "crazy like a fox" inasmuch as he is not really a Republican at least in terms of their traditional hot buttons/positions. If we keep screaming Fascist, or whatever, we could let blind rage blind us to the fact that we darn well better get our act together. Having fewer elected Democrats than any time since the 1920's is pretty awful and requires we look in the mirror.
In my opinion, the recovery path is not hard left or soft center, but some form of optimistic, non-patronizing center-left play.
Then again, it is so much for fun for us to burrow in our pity/anger and watch MSNBC ... um, just like the other side does with Fox.
The one thing that we better be careful of is that I worry that Trump is "crazy like a fox" inasmuch as he is not really a Republican at least in terms of their traditional hot buttons/positions. If we keep screaming Fascist, or whatever, we could let blind rage blind us to the fact that we darn well better get our act together. Having fewer elected Democrats than any time since the 1920's is pretty awful and requires we look in the mirror.
In my opinion, the recovery path is not hard left or soft center, but some form of optimistic, non-patronizing center-left play.
Then again, it is so much for fun for us to burrow in our pity/anger and watch MSNBC ... um, just like the other side does with Fox.
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Its not up to the Democratic Party - its up to the people. The people will cause change for the good when they have had enough -
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You still have to have candidates that are committed to making those changes on behalf of the people , NOT, their corporate donors. We all know who the Republican Party answers to and it is not their constituents. The problem is, even with the democrats nowadays, the moment they started accepting corporate/super pac dollars, it is slim pickings there as well.
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I alone can solve the ills of this nations and let's stay back and enjoy the incredible show hosted and produced by DT directed by Bannon.
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Clinton lost 22 states to Sanders in the primaries. The Democrats need a very simple rule: if you are an officeholder, you must have been a member of the Democratic party for a minimum of two years before January 1st of the Presidential election year. Done. I would not have minded Sanders participation if he had been an actual Democrat, but someone who has spent decades in public office shunning the Democratic label, even if they caucus with the Democrats, should never have been allowed to participate. The nomination process is an internal party matter. If you are too pure to be a member of the party, feel free to start your own.
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"feel free to start your own". Ugh. And look forward to a split ticket. On the contrary, the Democratic Party needs to open up the primaries more to get fresh blood.
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Bernie Sanders regularly caucused with the democrats so the idea that he shunned the party is just NOT the case. Perhaps you should have paid closer attention to the fact that federal elections are now pretty much controlled by the TWO PARTY duopoly of the Republicans and Democrats and 3rd party candidates are not welcome, hence, the duopoly set the rules and a third party candidate, regardless of popularity, finds it virtually impossible to be involved in the debates and are virtually shunned by the media. Sanders and his team decided realistically that he could only be involved in the debates IF, he ran as a democrat, in this case, opposing the annointed one, Hillary Clinton.
In doing otherwise and running as an Independent would have meant, like the fate of all other third party candidates, he would have never been able to get involved in the primary debates and would have been marginilized by the media even more than he already was.
In doing otherwise and running as an Independent would have meant, like the fate of all other third party candidates, he would have never been able to get involved in the primary debates and would have been marginilized by the media even more than he already was.
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Perhaps Sanders realized he was more of a DEMOCRAT than the corporate, republican-lite democrats that insist they are what voters want. Meanwhile they lose elections, not only nationally but state by state. Bernie was a breath of fresh air bringing hope and vitality to the party, something the dinosaurs of the party rejected. They (and you) are to blame for Trump, not Sanders. Maybe it's time for YOU to start your own party since you are simply moderate republicans.
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I trust that Democratic leaders are paying attention but I don't see their messaging hitting the mark -- to counter what Trump says. Read Yahoo! "news" posts and you'll see a lot of comments from people who don't understand. i.e. What immigrants/undocumented workers contribute to the U.S. economy ($118+billion per yr in CA alone) or that regulations aren't punitive, they are protective.The narrative isn't strong or obvious and so the Democratic message is getting drowned out. For now. As so much of America's traditional values and protections are under assault, being effective requires addressing the fact-free, or fact-light concerns in a way people can understand who are too busy to take in more than a tweet or headline.
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The trouble is that the rejectionists are a zero sum game. They are the same people who supported Hillary and that wasn't enough. Boiled down to its basic the Indivisible Guide to a get out the vote scheme. Maybe it will work next time, maybe Trump will mess up enough to turn some of his base or maybe the Democrats will suffer from the same problem as Hillary: they wont stand for anything those damaged by globalism want.
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The author of this article is described as "the politics editor of the Magazine". One would think that a person in that position would be familiar with American political history. Yet, in this piece, Mr. Homans writes: "...Hillary Clinton lost to a candidate who revived a strain of nativist, nationalist politics that had been dormant in the Republican Party for at least a generation." To rephrase Elizabeth Warren: what planet has Mr. Homans been living on?
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There's a big difference between the current Democrats being the party of no and the GOP being the part of no during the Obama administration.
The GOP was the party of no because George W. Bush so badly screwed things up that the only way for the party to save political face was to make his failure into a general government failure: he did not fail; the government is generally incompetent and made him fail. This is, of course, patently ridiculous.
The Democrats must act as the party of no to prevent wholesale destruction of so many things that Americans find valuable, although many will be unable to see that until those things are gone.
In summary: GOP said no because it wanted to save political party face;
Democrats are saying no because they want to save the country.
The GOP was the party of no because George W. Bush so badly screwed things up that the only way for the party to save political face was to make his failure into a general government failure: he did not fail; the government is generally incompetent and made him fail. This is, of course, patently ridiculous.
The Democrats must act as the party of no to prevent wholesale destruction of so many things that Americans find valuable, although many will be unable to see that until those things are gone.
In summary: GOP said no because it wanted to save political party face;
Democrats are saying no because they want to save the country.
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Polite doesn't work. Reasonable will never work. You can't reason with a fool. Like mud wrestling with a pig, just a big mess all around. Let THEM own everything. Let's see their version of " making America great again". It won't be pretty, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom. Bigly.
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The Democratic Party is suffering an identity crisis which is aggravated by its inability to have an open discussion about the problem. What direction do they want to go in? Do they still want to appeal to their traditional ethnic white base or do they want to be the party of identity politics which, in Obama's own words, is more "colored"--? Rather than face this issue head on they engage in the diversionary tactic of going into an attack mode which did not serve Hillary well in the election. So, okay, Trump is racist, Trump is sexist, etc. But what do the Democrats have to offer those who have lost their jobs in the global economy the Democrats seem to embrace? Unfortunately all we seem to be getting from them is double talk--lip service to the dwindling middle class while exporting jobs.
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Mitch McConnell declared war on the Democrats in 2008. Absolutely no cooperation on any issue, period. The Democrats, OTOH, are ready to cooperate on infrastructure and other projects. Calling them the "Party of No" because they oppose the most hateful extremist regime in modern American history is a simple-minded misstatement that sounds more like one of Trump's tweets than thoughtful journalism. Shame on you NYT.
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What the democrats need to look back at is the rise of Barack Obama and the 2008 election. First you had a candidate with charisma, a great orator and a thousand watt smile with a wholesome family to boot. It also helped that king maker teddy anointed him. All factions of the party got behind him. In the 2020 election, the benefit of clear hindsight will and should be driving the democrats to unite behind such a candidate. Forget specialty candidates like sanders or warren. The democrats are not without talent to choose from. To me the take away of the 2016 protest election was that as odious as trump was to the republicans, they stuck together. The democrats did not. So be the party of no for now and stick together. Then choose an unbeatable candidate. If trump survives his political future, how hard could it be to beat him after four years of confederate states of America leadership. If you can call it leadership. Call it twittership. Substitute the p on the end with a ........ and there it is.
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That was the plan with Hillary, but it didn't work. I think it would be better to reform the primary system as a tool to select a popularly appealing candidate with a good campaign. Scrap the delegates, just use the party as a veto mechanism to be used with discretion. Bernie, and other outsiders, of course, should run if they want to.
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Dems have never been without plans, ideas, programs to deal with real problems.
So, Party of no? I must say "No" to that!
The GOP earned its moniker by having nothing - zilch, zero, zed, nada - of benefit to the vast majority of citizens.
That Dems are now standing up is because the GOP wants to roll back and take away everything that's not nailed down. Like theives in the night!
The GOP wants to shrink every worthwhile social benefit, every true shared good, like education, healthcare, infrastructure, weather reporting, climate research, scientific research, and on and on.
Dems are standing up to protect these social/scientific goods.
First "do no harm" say Dems.
So, Party of no? I must say "No" to that!
The GOP earned its moniker by having nothing - zilch, zero, zed, nada - of benefit to the vast majority of citizens.
That Dems are now standing up is because the GOP wants to roll back and take away everything that's not nailed down. Like theives in the night!
The GOP wants to shrink every worthwhile social benefit, every true shared good, like education, healthcare, infrastructure, weather reporting, climate research, scientific research, and on and on.
Dems are standing up to protect these social/scientific goods.
First "do no harm" say Dems.
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I am not voting for any democrat candidate until they stop being the Corporate stooges and stop these stupid cultural wars which make them feel good but do nothing to economically help people. You know when people feel tolerant? When they have food on the table and money in their pocket.
This ridiculous adulation of illegal immigrants isn't helping anyone except people who want cheap labor. Most Americans understand that also. They don't mind some immigration but they want good people coming into their country not any Tom, Dick or Harry. Calling people names like Xenophobe is just turning more and more people away because guess what? They want real conversations about it not blind acceptance of an elitist view.
The only real excitement you're feeling is the panic of the elite classes feeling the imminent collapse of their comfortable existence. It is not going to translate into real votes. In fact, I predict the democrats will lose even more seats unless someone like Bernie runs. You are losing the progressive wing and the reasonable people who use to vote Democrat and you won't have enough votes without it.
This ridiculous adulation of illegal immigrants isn't helping anyone except people who want cheap labor. Most Americans understand that also. They don't mind some immigration but they want good people coming into their country not any Tom, Dick or Harry. Calling people names like Xenophobe is just turning more and more people away because guess what? They want real conversations about it not blind acceptance of an elitist view.
The only real excitement you're feeling is the panic of the elite classes feeling the imminent collapse of their comfortable existence. It is not going to translate into real votes. In fact, I predict the democrats will lose even more seats unless someone like Bernie runs. You are losing the progressive wing and the reasonable people who use to vote Democrat and you won't have enough votes without it.
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Its a good article but the Corporate Democrats will not win much of anything if its the same old message- as Elizabeth Warren we have to run on values. The Corporate Democrates need to walk away from talking points, platitudes, cliches about values that their donors want them to say. Democrates need to say what they are for that will affect peoples lives: $15 minimum wage, 48 weeks of paid family leave, 40 paid days off for vacation and holidays, 5 paid days for the flue and 50 days for cancer treatment, increase the highest tax rate above 10 times the median income, $530,000 to 65%, 5 cent sales tax on Wall Street trading to pay for education through college, affordable daycare and Pre-K, put everyone on Medicare, remove the income cap on social security and raise the benefits to the lowest half of the recipients, create a carbon tax of $100 per ton, raise the capital gains tax to SS + median income tax rate - 29%, close the corporate loop holes so a bigger share of federal revenues come from corporations instead of relying on individuals,revise the penal system send non violent offenders home and put the money into craft trade and rehab, immigration reform, upgrade infrastructure- clean energy and transportation, ports, railroads, airports. As important as it is, Dems you cant just say no, march and boycott and give wishy washy platitudes on values and win much of anything... say what you are for, real policies that affect peoples lives. That is the only way you can win.
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Do all of that and then unemployment rate will resemble what we see in much of Europe. I certainly wouldn't want to live in the country you describe, and would fight hard against that agenda.
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Being for everything you listed is the easy part.
Achieving it is much more difficult, especially when the current President and Republican Congress is hellbent on destroying what progress has been achieved.
You haven't been paying attention if you think that there is much Democratic disagreement on the ultimate goals. Where there is disagreement is on how to achieve them.
And you haven't being paying attention if you haven't seen Democrats laying out their goals.
Achieving it is much more difficult, especially when the current President and Republican Congress is hellbent on destroying what progress has been achieved.
You haven't been paying attention if you think that there is much Democratic disagreement on the ultimate goals. Where there is disagreement is on how to achieve them.
And you haven't being paying attention if you haven't seen Democrats laying out their goals.
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The differences are now more existential than partisan. On the left you have a party with some flaws but in general forward looking, focused on facts and science, working to make sure people have adequate health care and an overall view of social and economic justice. On the right the forces of reaction, control and authority. Economic benefits for the well off few. No real concern for the plight of most people. Ignorance or seeming ignorance of facts and science. Willingness to allow groups to impose their morality on others and subjugate people to the will of that morality. So oppose, obstruct, shun, boycott and vote.
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So, the Though Police of the Left blathering about microaggressions are not about "control" or "authority", nor is the whole using the government to force transgendered bathroom access "subjugation" or "imposing moral authority". Nope, not at all in the myopic world of the Left!
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Let me sum up most of the comments on this: The Democrats agree with us, so it is OK.
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I agree to saying NO to everything they throw at us, but has anyone bothered to read what the trump voters are saying? No to government intrusion in our lives, no to telling me what to do, etc. Can someone educate these peope what "government intrusion" really means and does? They don't see the noose around their necks with this current government, how badly their lives will change. All they care about is the here and now. As Democrats, we need to speak to them in their language. All they see is the carnival barker promising a new and "beautiful" world. We need to step up and really engage them in their world. Most comments here are like preaching to the choir. Yes, it's awful to think 4 years of destruction of our American values is upon us and we're not going to accomplish anything until we bend some more ears. This is where our party leaders need to be, with the people, have more town meetings if necessary. 2018 is not far...
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I have been living in NYC for 35 years. I know Tailor Schumer since he was a JR Congressman representing B'Klyn 10th congressional district in 1981. Schumer never did anything for B'Klyn or NYC for that matter. He is a master of photo-ops . He will never miss a chance to get on TV. In 35 years in Congress, not a single law or even amendment he sponsored to benefits NYS. He is-however-a champion for Wall Street. He is called Wall Street Patron Saint. He earned the title tailor for his craftsmanship of laws to serve Goldman Sachs needs.
If anyone here believes Lib/Dems agenda will be served by Schumer, I own a Brooklyn Bridge to sell you.
If anyone here believes Lib/Dems agenda will be served by Schumer, I own a Brooklyn Bridge to sell you.
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Why don't you do the story about how the Democrats became the party of division/identity politics, the socialists, the anti-working class crowd, and the anti-straight white male crowd? Why don't you do the story on how the Democrats are feverishly working to ensure that all aspects of life are viewed through the prisms of race, class, gender, and sexual identity? And yes, you can also do the story about how the Democrats are a bunch of hypocrites.
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“We’re Democrats,” Klain said. “We like to govern.”
Better: We’re Democrats, we like to govern and control.
Better: We’re Democrats, we like to govern and control.
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Better yet. We're Democrats and we like to lose.
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The establishment is trying to sell us Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders as the "new" democrat leaders.
Mr. Schumer is a New York Good Old Boy glad-hander who wants only to be "the top dog" in OUR U.S. I'm sure he would sell their mother to get what he wants.
Bernie Sanders could have prevented The Con Don from being elected IF he had gone on every television talk show, written op-eds to every U.S. and International newspaper and SHOUTED OUT to his supporters that foreign operatives, and white nationalists/sexists in the U.S. were spamming his supporters' facebook pages with "HATE, ANGER, FEAR LIES, LIES, LIES" about the most qualified candidate - Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He knew. His main people knew and they said nothing. They handed over OUR American democracy to the Robber Barons rather than support a mere woman and endangered the world.
They are no heroes and they will not lead the "new" democratic party. WOMEN will. Strong, courageous, smart, socially conscious women are the answer to the danger the world faces today from war-mongering, destructive, greedy Robber Barons who are trying to take over the world.
NOW is the time for women to step up and take one-half the power in America and the world. These women will not have the support of the male establishment, which includes the media. It doesn't matter. Powerful women are here to stay.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_5...
Mr. Schumer is a New York Good Old Boy glad-hander who wants only to be "the top dog" in OUR U.S. I'm sure he would sell their mother to get what he wants.
Bernie Sanders could have prevented The Con Don from being elected IF he had gone on every television talk show, written op-eds to every U.S. and International newspaper and SHOUTED OUT to his supporters that foreign operatives, and white nationalists/sexists in the U.S. were spamming his supporters' facebook pages with "HATE, ANGER, FEAR LIES, LIES, LIES" about the most qualified candidate - Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He knew. His main people knew and they said nothing. They handed over OUR American democracy to the Robber Barons rather than support a mere woman and endangered the world.
They are no heroes and they will not lead the "new" democratic party. WOMEN will. Strong, courageous, smart, socially conscious women are the answer to the danger the world faces today from war-mongering, destructive, greedy Robber Barons who are trying to take over the world.
NOW is the time for women to step up and take one-half the power in America and the world. These women will not have the support of the male establishment, which includes the media. It doesn't matter. Powerful women are here to stay.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_5...
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If you think spewing man-hating diatribes will earn women more power, then good luck to you. And just because Hillary on paper held a number of positions, most of which she "accomplished" after her husband became POTUS (it's not that hard to "achieve" and hold fancy titles when you're a former first lady) doesn't mean that Bernie supporters should be ashamed for their enthusiasm.
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Let us not condone obstruction but rather offer opposition through the infusion of practical ideas. Obstruction will only validate the "Trumpers".
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I am sorry but I just vociferously disagree - Democratic compromise is what's gotten us where we are today. It has to stop. The party must stand resolute for its values if it's going to survive and if those values are going to survive. Those values are 1000 percent at odds with everything Trump and the GOP want to do and our job is to stop them and, when we can't stop them, shine the bright light of opposition their way.
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The vignette at the end was nice. But, how much can we talk about this stuff? One could argue that '08 '12 '16 were essentially anti-establishment results. If any sane Republican governor had run, HRC would have lost in a popular vote landslide. Blue collar voters in the Midwest -- essentially the people who determine our President -- are going to keep turning to the next person if their lives won't improve, if their kids are ending up in worse standards of living than them, and if they see the system as rigged. The infrastructure thing might be what wins 2020 for Trump. Schumer is right to state let's not completely destroy the deficit to pay for it. But, it will create work and jobs in the areas that need them. What I'm trying to say is be careful of too much resistance of this sort: Trump has established himself as an outsider. If you obstruct, he's going to state the establishment wouldn't let him do anything, he needs more time. He will run again against the very establishment he's a part of in this fashion and he will use the same language and talk that won him the deciding voters in 2016. Ug. At least if he starts the fire, he'll be warm.
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I am wondering how anyone could call this transformative or getting your mojo back.
It is easy to stand in opposition to anything Trump and the GOP proposes.
It is a time honored tradition, even if it leads to a government shutdown.
It is also easy to talk about values, but these values must also be transformed into broad based policy that people can understand, grasp and rally around.
This is what is missing from current Democratic leadership, a compelling vision for this nation.
The GOP have been successful at marketing their vision over the past 35 years. Reagan's vision and The Contract With America were excellent examples of meshing policy statement with values.
Whether it was right for the nation is besides the point and after reading this, I wonder if there is a grand vision.
People will tire of just protesting and being in the opposition.
I also wonder if both Schumer and Pelosi are the right people for laying out this kind of vision. While their governing skills are invaluable in terms of political trench warfare, they are the exact opposite of visionaries.
Nor do I think that Warren and Sanders are suitable for this role.
Then there is the possibility of impeachment or resignation.
Do they just allow Pence to assume the role of President as a result of a tainted election?
Do they trigger a constitutional crisis and immediately call for new elections and be willing to fight for it all the way to the Supreme Court?
Time will tell.
It is easy to stand in opposition to anything Trump and the GOP proposes.
It is a time honored tradition, even if it leads to a government shutdown.
It is also easy to talk about values, but these values must also be transformed into broad based policy that people can understand, grasp and rally around.
This is what is missing from current Democratic leadership, a compelling vision for this nation.
The GOP have been successful at marketing their vision over the past 35 years. Reagan's vision and The Contract With America were excellent examples of meshing policy statement with values.
Whether it was right for the nation is besides the point and after reading this, I wonder if there is a grand vision.
People will tire of just protesting and being in the opposition.
I also wonder if both Schumer and Pelosi are the right people for laying out this kind of vision. While their governing skills are invaluable in terms of political trench warfare, they are the exact opposite of visionaries.
Nor do I think that Warren and Sanders are suitable for this role.
Then there is the possibility of impeachment or resignation.
Do they just allow Pence to assume the role of President as a result of a tainted election?
Do they trigger a constitutional crisis and immediately call for new elections and be willing to fight for it all the way to the Supreme Court?
Time will tell.
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It's always easier to be the opposition party - as the Republican Party is quickly learning now that they're in control.
The question for the Democratic Party moving forward is what exactly do they stand for, especially given that many Democrats in Congress are perceived - and, arguably, rightly so - to be a part of the problem our country's political and economic systems having been manipulated and corrupted by corporations and the ultra-wealthy in order to benefit the 1% at the expense of average Americans?
The question for the Democratic Party moving forward is what exactly do they stand for, especially given that many Democrats in Congress are perceived - and, arguably, rightly so - to be a part of the problem our country's political and economic systems having been manipulated and corrupted by corporations and the ultra-wealthy in order to benefit the 1% at the expense of average Americans?
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@fact or friction
It is indeed easier to be the opposition party. But it is impossible to be the "loyal" opposition when the fires of virulent party-first partisanship burn brightly, fueled by media bias...
It is indeed easier to be the opposition party. But it is impossible to be the "loyal" opposition when the fires of virulent party-first partisanship burn brightly, fueled by media bias...
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It's not clear from their behavior that the Dems really want to win. They'd rather be right (and self-righteous) than get the support of the majority of voters. This is a disservice to the working class, but the party appears to have written it off. Cobbling together a gaggle of disparate boutique issues (yes, boutique when the majority of citizens face social crisis from suicide, drugs, and unemployment) is not a winning strategy, but the party leadership seems to finds change distasteful.
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Really?! The Democratic party gave us Obamacare which pays for mental illness treatment and drug/alcohol rehabilitation. What are the Republicans offering?
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And if Dems were capable of a fight, it should have been to get Obama's SCOTUS choice installed, as right leaning as Merrick Garland is. No fire in the belly.
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Not much new. Conservatives believe in my way or the highway and never convince anyone other than their direct supporters. Liberals try to make everyone happy which is impossible.
"Liberals try to make everyone happy..." How? By shouting down those with whom they disagree? By encouraging not just rude and intolerant behavior but violence in confronting persons holding different views, as did many of Middlebury's faculty members earlier this month? If that's the liberal idea of "try[ing] to make everyone happy," most folks would rather be spared the effort...
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By shouting down those with whom they disagree? By encouraging not just rude and intolerant behavior but violence in confronting persons holding different views. Sounds like the tea party actions out here during the Obama administration, particularly the first term. I was an observer and saw it happen in person. I don't agree with the middlebury reaction either. For middlebury and the tea party, both are wrong and the rude and intolerant behavior solves nothing.
Tom, there are plenty of loonies to go round... On either side of the center, and probably some there as well...
How did the D's become the party of NO? It has to do with NO principles, NO courage, NO planning, NO imagination, all of which contribute to NO electoral victories. For starters, STOP "reaching across the aisle". The R's are selfish greedy people, and they will [continue to] chop off your hands. Do everything you can to avoid the R's having any participation in any investigations of anything the R's have done and are doing. Which means, go to the COURTS to TRY to get impartial investigations. No guarantee that the courts will do the right thing. But go to court in a Ninth Circuit state to maximize the chances. Dems ---- use your brains!
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There's a critical difference between the position the Dems are in now versus the Repubs under Obama.
The Democrats under Obama were generally trying to create and expand benefits and opportunities - protection for women's and LGBT rights, healthcare, environmental protection and fighting climate change, boosting biomedical research - in the face of obstinate, nihilistic opposition by Republicans who just hated the idea that Obama might actually have a long-term legacy. In other words, the "party of no".
Under Trump, the Republicans are out to slash and burn those achievements: gutting abortion rights, eliminating LGBT protections, harassing immigrants, undoing civil liberties protections, eliminating the ACA, destroying the EPA... need I go on? In this scenario, the Democrats aren't "the party of no" - they're simply fighting hard to protect American rights, health and quality of life from the barbarians at the gates, who are only after self-enrichment on the backs of the poor and working class.
I agree that the Democrats could do a MUCH better job explaining (and enacting) their political philosophy - honestly, we could use much better Democrats - but simply branding them is contrarian is missing the point of what's at stake. The fact is this: as with his businesses, Trump is here to grift, not to build. Democrats just need to broadcast what's at stake loud and clear.
The Democrats under Obama were generally trying to create and expand benefits and opportunities - protection for women's and LGBT rights, healthcare, environmental protection and fighting climate change, boosting biomedical research - in the face of obstinate, nihilistic opposition by Republicans who just hated the idea that Obama might actually have a long-term legacy. In other words, the "party of no".
Under Trump, the Republicans are out to slash and burn those achievements: gutting abortion rights, eliminating LGBT protections, harassing immigrants, undoing civil liberties protections, eliminating the ACA, destroying the EPA... need I go on? In this scenario, the Democrats aren't "the party of no" - they're simply fighting hard to protect American rights, health and quality of life from the barbarians at the gates, who are only after self-enrichment on the backs of the poor and working class.
I agree that the Democrats could do a MUCH better job explaining (and enacting) their political philosophy - honestly, we could use much better Democrats - but simply branding them is contrarian is missing the point of what's at stake. The fact is this: as with his businesses, Trump is here to grift, not to build. Democrats just need to broadcast what's at stake loud and clear.
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The original tag of party of "No" came from a complete gridlock of almost all legislation designed to prevent any positive legislation to help the country. The legislation that did pass (specifically the ACA) has been voted on by the GOP Congress over 50 times in an effort to maintain a negative level of awareness to the GOP base. McConnell's quote set the tone for them. Contrast that with the last 50 some days where there is a weekly constitutional crises. Our basic government services that affect our environment, our education system, civil rights and our foreign policy are all under attack. No the current Democratic may not be as organized as it needs to be but to defend the basic rights of the citizens from a dangerously radical administration cannot be compared with the GOP party of "No". Not even close.
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as much as i love president obama, i could never understand why after 2008 election, and the republicans worked to stop everything, why they didn't have millions show up for health care rally....that would have shut the republicans up at the beginning
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"The New Party of No"
Another terrible headline writing job by the New York Times.
The reference to the Republican party of no was about stopping all progress in our country by Democrats. This terrible headline implies something similar when in fact, the Democrats are trying to stop the country's protections from being gutted.
Another terrible headline writing job by the New York Times.
The reference to the Republican party of no was about stopping all progress in our country by Democrats. This terrible headline implies something similar when in fact, the Democrats are trying to stop the country's protections from being gutted.
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Outside of political view, it is correct to say no to what is happening in front of us. We need a return to collective moral reasoning that benefits the planet, shifting demographics, the well being of people at all levels of the economic ladder, and the humanity to handle diversity and the fact that life is changing rapidly. We can either be brave enough to move forward in time responsibly, beyond just the pettiness of reducing every thing to black and white, and dollars and cents, or we can fall back on ourselves and create borders upon borders physically, mentally and socially, leaving power in the hands of few. The unworthy powerful few who are most interested in themselves, their privilege, and their pocketbooks. We can say no to the destruction of our democratic republic. And if we have a brave moral compass we should and we will.
You wrote my words, Charlie. Thank you. But there was no end to your writing. I didn't think that far. My gracious goodness. , or vice versa.
And I miss good old Bob Hope with his daring jaw and nose like a ski jumper's dream. He always made my day. Do you remember, Charlie?
But know I regret subscribing to this newspaper. There's not a day without headlines on the front page without Mr. Trump. And that's way beyond his 100 first days. He is getting more like that Turk, mr. Erdogan.
And I miss good old Bob Hope with his daring jaw and nose like a ski jumper's dream. He always made my day. Do you remember, Charlie?
But know I regret subscribing to this newspaper. There's not a day without headlines on the front page without Mr. Trump. And that's way beyond his 100 first days. He is getting more like that Turk, mr. Erdogan.
Schumer has not yet learned how to start a fire.
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It's not "holding America hostage" with "bombs strapped to your chest" anymore?
Oh.
Oh.
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Hahahaha!
And we also find it's not "sedition" any more either.
And we also find it's not "sedition" any more either.
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Should the Democrats oppose Republican initiatives? Is the Pope Catholic?
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Well, not anymore......
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There's a big difference between Republican intransigence over the last 20 some odd years and Democratic refusal. We Democrats are all for saying "yes" to things that move the country forward. What we oppose are Republican attempts to gut everything that actually makes America the great world leader it has been, to enable corruption the likes of which we haven't seen since the 1920s,, and to shovel gobs of the American people's money to their wealthy, venal donors.
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The "new party of no?"
How about the "old party of neoliberalism"?
The DP has been oppositional about the low-hanging fruit of the Trumpist agenda. The Muslim Ban? DeVos? A near brain-dead ACA-reform proposal? This stuff is easy-peasy. The Republican party of a generation ago would have bristled at these things. (Recall, as is worth repeating every day until the second coming, the Republican party came up with the core ideas of the ACA.)
What the party needs to start saying "no" to are the same things that brought down Clinton's campaign: a generation-old alignment with the precepts of neoliberalism and a carte blanche for the military-industrial complex. To put it in stark terms, we need a party of Ellison, not a party of Perez.
Saying "no" to Trump is easy. It's morally easy, it's politically easy, and (in the current climate of ZERO democratic party power) it's consequence-free. Saying no to neoliberalism and to the continued entrenchment of class power --- well, that's a whole over business.
I'm going to have to ask more of the Democratic Party than just to be a party of easy, consequence-free "nos." They have to be a populist party that says "no" to the existing social and economic fabric of our society, and starts saying "yes" to real, for-the-people, progressive reform. That's a lot harder than saying no to DeVos, the Muslim ban, or the new ACA.
How about the "old party of neoliberalism"?
The DP has been oppositional about the low-hanging fruit of the Trumpist agenda. The Muslim Ban? DeVos? A near brain-dead ACA-reform proposal? This stuff is easy-peasy. The Republican party of a generation ago would have bristled at these things. (Recall, as is worth repeating every day until the second coming, the Republican party came up with the core ideas of the ACA.)
What the party needs to start saying "no" to are the same things that brought down Clinton's campaign: a generation-old alignment with the precepts of neoliberalism and a carte blanche for the military-industrial complex. To put it in stark terms, we need a party of Ellison, not a party of Perez.
Saying "no" to Trump is easy. It's morally easy, it's politically easy, and (in the current climate of ZERO democratic party power) it's consequence-free. Saying no to neoliberalism and to the continued entrenchment of class power --- well, that's a whole over business.
I'm going to have to ask more of the Democratic Party than just to be a party of easy, consequence-free "nos." They have to be a populist party that says "no" to the existing social and economic fabric of our society, and starts saying "yes" to real, for-the-people, progressive reform. That's a lot harder than saying no to DeVos, the Muslim ban, or the new ACA.
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Reading about Schumer's compromises and votes for Trump's cabinet picks sickened me. I couldn't get past the first half of this article.
If we have to learn how to fight by studying the Tea Party, let's not stop there. The NRA has graded the members of Congress with effective results; a bad grade in a red state got rid of many a liberal candidate. Yes, grades are simplistic but few of us have the time or resources to keep track of the maze of congressional votes.
The factors going into this summary grade would be votes for/against oligarchs in office (that would include the entire Trump cabinet), environmental protections, programs that enrich the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us. Especially useful would be a separate grade for money/favors accepted from corporations.
I applaud Sanders for continuing his highly successful rallies in the streets. I like Elizabeth Warren's bark, but where's the street action and tell me about her bite.
Until I see concrete, effective legislation from the Dems, I continue to place my hopes on the millions of us that continue to resist any way we can. And there are the several individuals who have taken more direct action: those DC businessmen who have sued Trump for conflicts of interest, Preet Bharara the fired US Attorney, Sally Yates the fired Attorney General. There are, surely, many more, so how about a heroes list to give us all hope that the resistance continues from all quarters.
If we have to learn how to fight by studying the Tea Party, let's not stop there. The NRA has graded the members of Congress with effective results; a bad grade in a red state got rid of many a liberal candidate. Yes, grades are simplistic but few of us have the time or resources to keep track of the maze of congressional votes.
The factors going into this summary grade would be votes for/against oligarchs in office (that would include the entire Trump cabinet), environmental protections, programs that enrich the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us. Especially useful would be a separate grade for money/favors accepted from corporations.
I applaud Sanders for continuing his highly successful rallies in the streets. I like Elizabeth Warren's bark, but where's the street action and tell me about her bite.
Until I see concrete, effective legislation from the Dems, I continue to place my hopes on the millions of us that continue to resist any way we can. And there are the several individuals who have taken more direct action: those DC businessmen who have sued Trump for conflicts of interest, Preet Bharara the fired US Attorney, Sally Yates the fired Attorney General. There are, surely, many more, so how about a heroes list to give us all hope that the resistance continues from all quarters.
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YES! is a complete sentence too.
YES! = absolute disagreement with NO.
YES! = an unrelenting refusal to participate in negative legislation.
YES! = a Vision for how to make life better for every American.
YES! is what Democrats have always stood for, and always will.
YES! = absolute disagreement with NO.
YES! = an unrelenting refusal to participate in negative legislation.
YES! = a Vision for how to make life better for every American.
YES! is what Democrats have always stood for, and always will.
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Yes but in the blues song classic 'Got my Mojo Working' in the double entendre nature of the blues the singer's mojo does not work on his prime female target.
Having lost the White House along with both houses of Congress and 60% of state executive mansions and legislators being the party of 'No' is faint solace. From the depths of their socioeconomic political supermassive black hole the Democrats are doomed to dark politically partisan pathetic foolishness. This is like urinating on yourself in a dark navy blue suit you feel warm all over but no one notices nor cares where the faint ammonia scented aroma is coming from.
No is not a policy nor a philosophy.
Having lost the White House along with both houses of Congress and 60% of state executive mansions and legislators being the party of 'No' is faint solace. From the depths of their socioeconomic political supermassive black hole the Democrats are doomed to dark politically partisan pathetic foolishness. This is like urinating on yourself in a dark navy blue suit you feel warm all over but no one notices nor cares where the faint ammonia scented aroma is coming from.
No is not a policy nor a philosophy.
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Democratic party should know when to join the Republicans, when to settle and when to fight. One thing Democrats don't want is to be labeled a NO party. They should delay for six more moths before next year elections start dominating the news. This is the reason Ryan is in hurry to pass Pbama care light.
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The Republicans are clearly more than the party of "No", they are the party of exclusion. Of taking things away from people.
Look at what they are doing and you can see the difference between the Democrats and Republicans. The Republicans want to take away illegal immigrants who have lived and worked here for decades. The Republicans want to exclude all immigrants. The Republicans want to eliminate or take away health care from the poor (medicaid). The Republicans want to take away from the people public education. The Republicans want to take from the people access to voting. The Republicans want to take away a woman's control of their own bodies. The list goes on.
Clearly, the Democrats, if they do have a spine, will benefit from listening to their supporters and their own inner morality and oppose all that the Republicans stand for and are trying to do. Any other approach will lead to continued Republican dominance and will eventually change this country into something most of us will not recognize.
Look at what they are doing and you can see the difference between the Democrats and Republicans. The Republicans want to take away illegal immigrants who have lived and worked here for decades. The Republicans want to exclude all immigrants. The Republicans want to eliminate or take away health care from the poor (medicaid). The Republicans want to take away from the people public education. The Republicans want to take from the people access to voting. The Republicans want to take away a woman's control of their own bodies. The list goes on.
Clearly, the Democrats, if they do have a spine, will benefit from listening to their supporters and their own inner morality and oppose all that the Republicans stand for and are trying to do. Any other approach will lead to continued Republican dominance and will eventually change this country into something most of us will not recognize.
The 4 Democratic Party no's : no to corporate Dems, no to neo -liberalism and austerity programs, no to Trump, no to war with Russia/China/Iran.
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Democrats are all in support of conflict with Russia now. Didn't you get the message?
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Only the NYT could portray loosing as the winning strategy.
Democrats have been losing at all levels for 3 electoral cycles. The fact that a Democrat was in the White House for 8 years, simply gave the illusion of power.
Trump's victory - the most imperfect Republican defeating the most celebrated Democrat - is not the start of the fall for Democrats. That was the end stage of decay.
Trum is right. You need to win to be a winner.
This alternative fact that losing is winning is simply bizarre.
Democrats have been losing at all levels for 3 electoral cycles. The fact that a Democrat was in the White House for 8 years, simply gave the illusion of power.
Trump's victory - the most imperfect Republican defeating the most celebrated Democrat - is not the start of the fall for Democrats. That was the end stage of decay.
Trum is right. You need to win to be a winner.
This alternative fact that losing is winning is simply bizarre.
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The State Department has been gutted, setting us up for limited international communications which is another step to dictatorship. Education, science, environment trashed. Fifteen million stand to lose healthcare.
And yet, according to so many of the commenters here, the Dems are no good and the Repubs are no different.
Do you negative commenters even read the reality-based news? Or are we seeing a lot of trolls?
And yet, according to so many of the commenters here, the Dems are no good and the Repubs are no different.
Do you negative commenters even read the reality-based news? Or are we seeing a lot of trolls?
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In the last ten years the democrats have lost over 900 seats to the Republicans at the local state and federal levels and, for the first time in decades, control all three levels of the executive branches AND two-thirds of state governments. Instead of worrying about whom you perceive as trolls, Americans, much like yourself, who actually vote, should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask the question, ``why did this happen and what could we have done to avoid it``?
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This is easier than Mr Homans contends: The dems became the party of NO because they've been losing state and federal elections for years. And they will continue to lose until they become more inclusive of everyone.
You've got this wrong. Democrats are not the new party of "no" they are solidifying as the party of "enough is enough!"
"Enough" of voter suppression.
"Enough" of right wing propaganda.
"Enough" of marginalizing everyone but the 1%
"Enough" of pitting Americans against each other
"Enough" of turning a blind eye to treasonous behavior
"Enough" of Democrats winning popular votes only to lose elections
"ENOUGH" of a Russian backed, Comey aided, fake president and his greedy power-hungry accomplices who chose party over country.
"Enough" of voter suppression.
"Enough" of right wing propaganda.
"Enough" of marginalizing everyone but the 1%
"Enough" of pitting Americans against each other
"Enough" of turning a blind eye to treasonous behavior
"Enough" of Democrats winning popular votes only to lose elections
"ENOUGH" of a Russian backed, Comey aided, fake president and his greedy power-hungry accomplices who chose party over country.
bernie’s people
bound by conscience
loyal peace confusion
steward of the natural
true to the constitution
who stood up for justice
quite a few times before
against racism brutality
corruption pollution war
not afraid to be american
when all others cry in fear
mourn not for your country
bernie’s person is now here
bound by conscience
loyal peace confusion
steward of the natural
true to the constitution
who stood up for justice
quite a few times before
against racism brutality
corruption pollution war
not afraid to be american
when all others cry in fear
mourn not for your country
bernie’s person is now here
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well it's about time the Democratic Party became formally the new Republican Party. It has been informally for some time now.
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Yep, that is what happens when you start taking substantial amounts of corporate dollars, ultimately, you are no longer really that much different from your opposition.
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Bernie brought "a grass-roots excitement that Clinton’s campaign conspicuously lacked." I voted for Hillary, but excitement was not part of her campaign. The Democratic establishment should have nominated someone younger, fresher, more aware of the Rust Belt unemployment, the lopsided NAFTA agreement. I was willing to overlook Hillary's disadvantages (Bill being back in the White House was one), but other people were not. The Democrats need to look in the mirror, do some soul-searching, and come up with a more dynamic candidate next time.
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The Democratic party is too busy governing and bringing improvements to the lives of average Americans for games. Republicans excel at winning elections with dirty tactics. They spend millions developing sophisticated gerrymandering software to pick their voters and passing strict voting laws. They manipulate language (see New Gingrich's pamphlet: Language: A Key Mechanism of Control) to frame the issues in voters mind (see death panel). President Obama and the Democratic party had a mandate for progressive change and Mitch McConnell and the cowardly Republicans made sure to deny the voters the change they wanted with years of pointless obstruction and brinksmanship.
The Democrats have always been the bigger person. Reaching out to republicans whether they win or lose. Well forget that. Being the adults in the room hasn't managed to tame the bullies.
The Democrats have always been the bigger person. Reaching out to republicans whether they win or lose. Well forget that. Being the adults in the room hasn't managed to tame the bullies.
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It sounds like a good start, but they still hardly understand the depths they'll have to go to dig themselves out of years of losing. This article describes a slight change in politics, but the public doesn't feel they truly understand yet. Bernie came up from no where on the wave of public support and almost won as an independent leftist. I think the faux outrage of Schumer is that of a drowning man desperate to keep the reigns of power and not truly interested in understanding the rage against the right. The Dems leadership vote was close, but again the status quo won based on elitist voting and not truly grasping the problem of clinging to a dead strategy.
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I can't help but recall in 2014 elections the Dems "benched" Obama and thinking at the time What!? I thought the President needed to get out there and defend his policies with his unique passion, and that contrary to rumor, the people were with him 100% & would support a Congress that shared his passion. After the election, it turned out the people did love him and were thirsty for his leadership. When he did come out, unfettered by the false political narrative that electoral success depended upon being republican lite, it did my soul good. As a life long Dem I say let's not over analyze our situation or get sucked into inaction by self doubt. Let's forget our petty resentments over what happened in 2016 and keep focused on our solidarity. We know what we need to do, let's throw political caution to the wind, grab our passion, and use our loss as a source of energy. NO, compromising with 45 & his synchophants is not an option. Resist.
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As usual, the same Democrats who created our $20 trillion debt, the illegal immigrant mess, an economy with record low growth, and a national climate of racial animosity and class warfare, now leave it to the Republicans to solve the problems they created. And, as usual, when the problems are not solved immediately, the Democrats raise holy hell with a complicit national media to blame the Republicans. The Democrat way is a proven failure. It will take the adults a while to right the ship.
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Your post shows how highly propagandized the right is and detached from facts. The debt was run up by two foolish and unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and tax cuts for the rich. It will grow as more tax cuts for the rich are put in place at the cost of people's health. The right wing propaganda machine led by Fox and the right wing talkers and sites like Breitbart have used racial conflict as their bread and butter and dumped kerosene on every small flame. The right attacked the last President based on his name, ancestry etc. It will take adults to fix things and preserved personal liberty and a functioning democratic republic. When any show up on the right let us know.
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For six years, I felt enormous frustration with a Republican Congress that would not work on behalf of Americans to create the best possible health care legislation. And now I feel frustrated with Democrats who believe that simply saying no, and hoping the Republicans will cut off their own noses, somehow equates to leading.
I'm not a moderate. I'm a hardcore progressive, but I expect lawmakers to be in the business of crafting laws, not re-electing themselves. The Republicans won, they will do something with health care, and now is the moment for Democrats to find a way to work with that process. That's the only way to keep the nastiest ideas on the far right from getting more traction. Yes, it hurts. This whole election hurts. Now grow up and do your jobs.
#imstillwithBernie
I'm not a moderate. I'm a hardcore progressive, but I expect lawmakers to be in the business of crafting laws, not re-electing themselves. The Republicans won, they will do something with health care, and now is the moment for Democrats to find a way to work with that process. That's the only way to keep the nastiest ideas on the far right from getting more traction. Yes, it hurts. This whole election hurts. Now grow up and do your jobs.
#imstillwithBernie
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What's happening currently isn't your normal, modern conservative government that wants to maintain and reinforce the status quo, with a smaller progressive party yelling "boo" from the sidelines. Our modern, open, inclusive way of life and government are threatened by Trump and the Republicans, who will do whatever they can to consolidate, however incrementally, a plutocratic, socially conservative, authoritarian police state and ensure that it is very hard to undo. Progressives have got our work cut out for us. It's going to require for a long time the level of broad resistance we are currently seeing to push back against the Republicans' game plan.
For eight years we only got obstructionism and NO from the Republican Party. Now we have something new from Republicans. They have become a party of liars where lying under oath is perfectly okay. Where conspiracies and unsupported allegations are okay. The Democrats cannot longer be just observers and timid. Now the Democrats should be obstructionists and say NO to everything coming from the WH or from the republican congress. It is now the Democrats’ turn to be negative. Retribution must be made for the 8 years of republican’s obstructionism and endless NO. Democrats need to enact the law of retaliation if they want to survive. So, ‘an eye for an eye’ is OKAY. They need to act now before it is too late. The NYT always puts trump on the top news 24/7. This has to change; trump should be ignored. Let him get mad until he resigns. The NYT should heavily promote and empower Democrats in the news top headlines. Let’s give democrats the chance to be heard on important issues that matter to all Americans.
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Progressives have two things to resist: Donald Trump and the entrenched stasis and timidity of the Democratic Party. The Dems stabbed a true fighter – Bernie Sanders – in the back, threw him overboard, and flushed his progressive ideas down the toilet. They nominated a party insider who ran on a declared platform of status quo. As a result, we got Donald Trump. The election of Perez to head the DNC instead of Ellison is an indication that the Dems learned little from the election and are resistant to change. The Democrats lost their mojo a long time ago when they abandoned the working man and woman and crawled into bed with corporations and banks. If the Democrats had any spine they would barricade themselves in the House and Senate chambers and lock the Republicans out. But they won’t. They are wed to the idea of “incremental change.” The problem with this is that the enemy is moving at warp speed. You can’t fight warp speed with incremental change strategies. Looks like carnage in the offing.
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The democratic party of No - no to common sense solutions that are not part of the ideology. No to compromise to make the country run better because it will offend the left-winged base. No to any health care changes because it will make the Obama presidency look like nothing was accomplished. No to following the laws of the land if they don't coincide with the far left's rhetoric. No to actually running government the right way where there are term limits that bring in new members and fresh ideas. No to developing a new war on poverty that's based on measurement and results, instead of unattainable political promises. Sounds like the Democratic party has always been the party of No, so why change now?
Modern Democrats would never stomach something as sweeping as the New Deal today. Just look at how most registered Democrats responded to Bernie Sanders, and his call for a new New Deal. Whether they want to admit it or not, most of what remains of the Democratic party are individuals whose beliefs are well in line with what used to be the moderate Republican position. Pro-TPP, pro-Wall Street, indifferent to labour, weak on healthcare and Social Security. The rise of identity politics in many ways comes down to these moderate conservatives over-compensating on so-called 'identity' issues to beef up their psuedo-liberal credentials without risking their own bank accounts (or, worse, the bank accounts of their wealthy donors).
The current Democratic party cannot, and will not, fight Donald Trump and the Republicans. The selection of Tom Perez to run the DNC should prove this beyond any reasonable doubt. Until the Democratic party renounces its big money Wall Street and corporate donors it will remain lost and impotent. The influence of corporate money is the number one impediment to Democrats laying out a clear platform with strong, popular proposals. Without a clear platform of progress, rather than the mere stagnation Hillary Clinton offered us, Democrats will continue to lose.
The current Democratic party cannot, and will not, fight Donald Trump and the Republicans. The selection of Tom Perez to run the DNC should prove this beyond any reasonable doubt. Until the Democratic party renounces its big money Wall Street and corporate donors it will remain lost and impotent. The influence of corporate money is the number one impediment to Democrats laying out a clear platform with strong, popular proposals. Without a clear platform of progress, rather than the mere stagnation Hillary Clinton offered us, Democrats will continue to lose.
This article reminds me of the old Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch. The Democratic party is dead, deceased, no more, gone to meet its maker, ceased to be, expired, stiff, bereft of life, its metabolic processes are history, kicked the bucket, run down the curtain.
Let's not pretend like the pet shop owner that it's alive but just taking a break.
Let's not pretend like the pet shop owner that it's alive but just taking a break.
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Thanks for getting rid of that `mojo' nonsense. Sophomoric at best.
And it might be a little premature to start labeling the post-butt kicking rumblings a `transformation'. Let's settle on `wake-up call' before we give birth to a movement.
If the Democrats show some courage - and integrity - things will work out.
And it might be a little premature to start labeling the post-butt kicking rumblings a `transformation'. Let's settle on `wake-up call' before we give birth to a movement.
If the Democrats show some courage - and integrity - things will work out.
The recent election of Perez over Elison was a terrible mistake for the DNC--even though Elison got behind Perez. The Democratic Party just won't learn its lesson--Hillary tried to cater to Republicans and lost.
I'm glad Bernie still has that list. I hope I don't have to go third party progressive in 2020.
I'm glad Bernie still has that list. I hope I don't have to go third party progressive in 2020.
Hillary tried to cater to Republicans and lost.
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Calling Republicans "deplorables" is somehow catering to them?
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Calling Republicans "deplorables" is somehow catering to them?
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The Democrats will have a hard time as putting people like Warren in the front could be political suicide. She is smart and effective on some subjects, but woefully ignorant on others and viewed even by many in the Democratic mainstream as too liberal. This is how the party lost after Carter, by putting up candidates too far to the left. Who were the successful Democratic presidents? Clinton and Obama that used vision and a center left view.
The Sanders element of the party could ultimately lead to long term GOP majorities as he was not grounded in reality either. He had a number of good ideas, but remember how unrealistic some of them were? Free education, student loan forgiveness, universal healthcare. They may be goals, but you have to have a way to pay for them. Sanders was just a more principled Democratic version of Trump that addressed the problem and not the solution.
Right now, it is more effective to characterize Trump for what he is: The Murderer-in-Chief and/or Liar-in-Chief based on repealing the ACA, broadening military actions, and creating enmity with many groups in the world that all lead to many lost US lives. Put a label on him he can't shake, but come up with a reasonable, center-left agenda that will attract Independents or be relegated to irrelevance.
The Sanders element of the party could ultimately lead to long term GOP majorities as he was not grounded in reality either. He had a number of good ideas, but remember how unrealistic some of them were? Free education, student loan forgiveness, universal healthcare. They may be goals, but you have to have a way to pay for them. Sanders was just a more principled Democratic version of Trump that addressed the problem and not the solution.
Right now, it is more effective to characterize Trump for what he is: The Murderer-in-Chief and/or Liar-in-Chief based on repealing the ACA, broadening military actions, and creating enmity with many groups in the world that all lead to many lost US lives. Put a label on him he can't shake, but come up with a reasonable, center-left agenda that will attract Independents or be relegated to irrelevance.
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They're all corrupt, Congress and the Administration.
Sent to Washington to improve the nation via legislative acts, the elected officials have demonstrated an inability to accomplish anything other than reelection and patronage of their wealthy handlers.
Dress them in togas, put olive wreaths on their heads, feed them grapes and send them all back to Ancient Rome.
Sent to Washington to improve the nation via legislative acts, the elected officials have demonstrated an inability to accomplish anything other than reelection and patronage of their wealthy handlers.
Dress them in togas, put olive wreaths on their heads, feed them grapes and send them all back to Ancient Rome.
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If the democrats actually had a fair nomination process, Bernie would ah e won and the author wouldn't have written this dribble.
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When the Dems held the White House it was called obstructionism. No doubt now that the tables have turned it will be given a moniker much more heroic.
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This is excellent news! It will assure that the Democrats become completely irrelevant (I mean, even more than they already are) after the 2018 mid-terms.
President Trump, in all his glory and with all his top officials, will turn out to be the best thing for the Democratic Party in decades.
It is inevitable their plans to lurch to the right, cut people's popular benefits, pander to the ultra rich, start wars, alienate allies, ravage the environment, and all the rest will fall flat on its face.
It's up to the Democrats to sieze on this great opportunity and rise above factionalism and narrow interest politics.
Step one: a huge turnout for midterms and state office elections and a real message to counter the GOP.
It is inevitable their plans to lurch to the right, cut people's popular benefits, pander to the ultra rich, start wars, alienate allies, ravage the environment, and all the rest will fall flat on its face.
It's up to the Democrats to sieze on this great opportunity and rise above factionalism and narrow interest politics.
Step one: a huge turnout for midterms and state office elections and a real message to counter the GOP.
You may be correct. Obama was certainly the best thing that happened to the GOP since the 1920s. If liberals had been paying attention to every election save for the two Obama won, they would have noticed they had a debacle on their hands and worked to correct it. The way to weaken any political party is to give it power. They start losing oxygen the moment they are elected.
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And therein we have the key problem and difference between Democrats and Republicans: Dems want government to function while Republicans have become this strange band of hostage takers, in a my way or the highway style of rule. The Democrats have to shift or be completely gerrymandered out of any kind of check or balance in the system. The bottom line is, we don't live in a functioning democratic republic anymore, and we can thank the Republicans for this. At this point it's all out war just to keep ultra-rich conservative ideologues from completely tearing this country apart, so I guess that's just the way it's going to be for every election in the near future.
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One impression that comes through loud and clear in this article is what a disaster the Hillary Clinton presidential nomination was for the Democrats (yes, I know she won the popular vote). Her defeat threw the party backwards 12 years as a governing entity. Now, they may be in a useful oppositional starting point now, as the Republicans were eight years ago, but they must begin to gather the kind of candidates they need to retake Congress first, plus, think long and hard about who they want to represent their party at the national level too. Whatever one thinks of the President, he has changed the political paradigm of what's possible in politics in this country. The Democrats must adjust, and it's possible that a face of their current leadership simply won't be sufficient four years from now.
If this is the Democrats' strategy, it's a good thing Trump has been totally incompetent and handed the party so many things that are easy to oppose -- the monster's ball of a Cabinet; the cruel, stupid and illegal travel ban; a brutal healthcare repeal that nobody likes. If Trump had been smarter about limiting immigration, or put forward a big infrastructure bill or announced plans to renegotiate NAFTA, and this is the tack the Democrats took, he would succeed in making his opposition a permanent minority. Sorry, Dems, big deal that Hillary won a tiny plurality of the popular vote -- a smaller margin than Bush's squeaker win in '04 -- you lost the elections that counted and your party DOES NOT have anything close to a governing majority. The Democrats are totally unpopular in much of the country and Trump's win was as much a rejection of the Democratic Party as it was an endorsement of the Donald. And until the party accounts for that and expands beyond its shrill, arrogant, condescending base, it will not win enough elections to count for anything. They are going to have to pick their battles and decide what they really stand for. A party of No would play into Trump's hands if he gets smart.
TLDR. The shift to the far left will leave Democrats permanently out of control of both houses and the White House. The ugly vitriol will further alienate moderates and Independents. Nothing could make President Trump and Republicans happier.
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Democrats cannot acquiesce to State Terrorism!
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It's not a matter of left and right. It's a matter of true or false. I think the truth has been tagged as "leftist," which makes any kind of understanding of reality near to impossible. You can't compromise the truth without putting yourself in some kind of hole. If we want to be free we have to be honest, no matter where it takes us.
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hardly
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Where is Bernie Sanders' television show? The most trusted influential man in America and he doesn't have a weekly tv outlet? Trump won because of his television personality. Bernie could save this country if people could see and hear him on a regular basis. Bernie's People. Where is it?
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Bernie requires management which is why he only comes out every four years to serve Lenin's ideological spawn.
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What do the Democrats really want, besides to score rhetorical points? Are they working towards an immigration amnesty? Are they working towards any concrete proposals to help American workers?
Or are they now defined by being anti-Trump, anti-Caucasian, and anti-Male?
Or are they now defined by being anti-Trump, anti-Caucasian, and anti-Male?
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Perhaps you should listen to the protests. We want control over our own bodies and our own health decisions. We want single payer health care and we want comprehensive immigration reform. Those are just a few of the basic civil rights. anti-male??? you are insulting
Okay, Democrats, do not accept the label of "The Party of No"...that belongs to republicans, they earned it, make them keep it.
Democrats need their own moniker: "The Party of No Nonsense"..perhaps?
Democrats need their own moniker: "The Party of No Nonsense"..perhaps?
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Oh come on! The Democrats simply reversing roles with the Repubs?
How utterly facile! And how utterly ignoring of the facts!
For YEARS, the Repubs obstructed Obama just for the same of obstructions ("I want to see him fail" --McConnell), NOT from any sense of having any better ideas!
And what the Democrats are "protesting" and obstructionism now is an UTTERLY UNPRECEDENTED assault on government (election collusion with Russians, thuggery way way worse than Nixon, and utter disrespect for government), hiring UTTER INCOMPETENTS and far-right zealots, terrifying despotic actions, and the threatening to slash health-care, Social Security, and Medicaid/Medicare to cause mind-boggling harm to people!
Saying "no" to a dangerous demagogue, hell-bent on seizing power and doing harm is trying to SAVE our nation!
How utterly facile! And how utterly ignoring of the facts!
For YEARS, the Repubs obstructed Obama just for the same of obstructions ("I want to see him fail" --McConnell), NOT from any sense of having any better ideas!
And what the Democrats are "protesting" and obstructionism now is an UTTERLY UNPRECEDENTED assault on government (election collusion with Russians, thuggery way way worse than Nixon, and utter disrespect for government), hiring UTTER INCOMPETENTS and far-right zealots, terrifying despotic actions, and the threatening to slash health-care, Social Security, and Medicaid/Medicare to cause mind-boggling harm to people!
Saying "no" to a dangerous demagogue, hell-bent on seizing power and doing harm is trying to SAVE our nation!
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I'll believe it when I see it; Ellison and Bernie may beg to differ. Time for a truly liberal/progressive party. And time for vastly better elections: www.fairvote.org
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It remains to be seen if thetvDems can keep the fire in their belly, I'm okay with saying no to everything trump.
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It has nothing to do with Dems...women have had it. Women will and are the revolution that will get his facist out of power
You should talk to more women. Millions are conservative.
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If the Dems want to get their mojo back, I dont want to see Chuck Schumer crying anymore.
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Are there any moderates available?
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There are exactly as many moderate Democrats as there are moderate Repulicans.
Ann,
The opposite of immoderate is moderate. The opposite of ignorance thought and study. The opposite of lunacy is sanity. The opposite of lying is honesty.
Yes, there are many moderates available. And very hard at work.
The opposite of immoderate is moderate. The opposite of ignorance thought and study. The opposite of lunacy is sanity. The opposite of lying is honesty.
Yes, there are many moderates available. And very hard at work.
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Instead of human name, like Trumpcare, let's give it an inhuman name - it is after all inhumane: REPUBLICARE
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Dee: We're on the same page and evidently in the same State.
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I am continually baffled at the notion that stomping your feet and crying incessantly and yelling "no!" like a 2-year-old is somehow going to be effective against the Republican President, House, Senate, and Supreme Court. I already sense a general protest fatigue among both protesters and their targets. The only thing that matters is getting back into positions of power, and the only path is to get candidates elected. Offer the voters something that matters to them. If you really don't know what that is, then you really have no chance, and you don't even deserve one. Play to the voters, not the donors.
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Yes, play against the status quo and listen to the people. Probably won't happen and they will lose midterms next year as well. Trump will win that with his outsider outrage, even though his party is totally in control and the majority of people, already fatigued, will fail to vote. His voters though will show up in droves, still angry at being repressed, as he's sold it to them.
Perhaps you haven't attended a protest or Indivisible Group meeting. I have, and I can tell you that we are very much focused on winning state legislative seats and flipping our County blue in 2018. We are not acting like babies, as you describe, but as grown ups who love our Country and want to see American values like diversity, tolerance and justice preserved against the existential danger represented by the other Party and its unfit president. No fatigue that I can see yet, either. Why not join a group yourself? You might be pleasantly surprised.
I have great hope, but hope is not a strategy. Dems have a great record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The problem for Dems is that they are by nature in the business of politics to help others and pass laws. To legislate. Saying NO!!! is very very difficult for Dems to do.
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Trump has an insatiable need for power and adulation. The Republican Party is financed by wealthy and powerful corporate entities and individuals totally motivated by profit, control and market share.
Empathy and compassion are completely devoid in these players. History is rife with examples of the depravity of the powerful and their disdain for the common man. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yes, I'm sure these people are fond of family, friends and, maybe, the dog.
The Democrats problem has always been that they have tried to bargain and compromise with Republicans as if they possessed any concern for the common man. They don't. What they are afraid of is a compassionate and empathetic electorate. One that sees all groups of humans as equals. They work relentlessly to sow discord with lies and rumors. They are adept at creating mountains out of molehills while whitewashing their own peccadillos.
There is no time to bicker the Clinton/Sanders story. That is EXACTLY what the Republicans want (and, probably, helped create). If you do not sincerely approve of Trump and the Republican agenda, then resist. Resist every day, resist every action. Write, call and march. Pick your most passionate topic: human rights, the environment, economic opportunity and focus. The truth is a powerful tool. Exposing hate is the best way to end it.
Empathy and compassion are completely devoid in these players. History is rife with examples of the depravity of the powerful and their disdain for the common man. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yes, I'm sure these people are fond of family, friends and, maybe, the dog.
The Democrats problem has always been that they have tried to bargain and compromise with Republicans as if they possessed any concern for the common man. They don't. What they are afraid of is a compassionate and empathetic electorate. One that sees all groups of humans as equals. They work relentlessly to sow discord with lies and rumors. They are adept at creating mountains out of molehills while whitewashing their own peccadillos.
There is no time to bicker the Clinton/Sanders story. That is EXACTLY what the Republicans want (and, probably, helped create). If you do not sincerely approve of Trump and the Republican agenda, then resist. Resist every day, resist every action. Write, call and march. Pick your most passionate topic: human rights, the environment, economic opportunity and focus. The truth is a powerful tool. Exposing hate is the best way to end it.
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One of the biggest problems the Democrats have is the need to be liked by everyone. They want to be the champions of every minority, and in so doing they tend to alienate the majority. It's rather like the Liberal mindset itself. And this is why they lost the American heartland of simple, uneducated voters - the Bible Belt, if you will.
As the old saying goes, you can't be friends with everyone, but you can kill yourself trying. The Dems always kill themselves this way. My personal belief is that Islam was the ultimate divider. For Obama (whom I think was an excellent president in many ways) to not face the real fact that Islam itself is a problem (no, not "All Muslims") but the actual religion was a denial that did the Democratic party no good at all. It's that, and the need to address causes such as gender identity (not remotely an issue to poor, ignorant people living in the mid west who only want Jesus and football) is what ended up setting back all the work he'd done that was ACTUALLY important for the MAJORITY such as healthcare.
So now, thanks to needing to be the minority's savior, we're losing healthcare and are stuck with a lunatic in the oval office.
My two cents.
As the old saying goes, you can't be friends with everyone, but you can kill yourself trying. The Dems always kill themselves this way. My personal belief is that Islam was the ultimate divider. For Obama (whom I think was an excellent president in many ways) to not face the real fact that Islam itself is a problem (no, not "All Muslims") but the actual religion was a denial that did the Democratic party no good at all. It's that, and the need to address causes such as gender identity (not remotely an issue to poor, ignorant people living in the mid west who only want Jesus and football) is what ended up setting back all the work he'd done that was ACTUALLY important for the MAJORITY such as healthcare.
So now, thanks to needing to be the minority's savior, we're losing healthcare and are stuck with a lunatic in the oval office.
My two cents.
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If only Barack Obama had mobilized the Democratic Party instead of doing nothing for it in 8 years. He touted bipartisanship which we all knew was impossible and a waste of time. He worked tirelessly to pass the ACA when he should have worked first to secure the Senate and then losing the Senate made it very difficult to pass the ACA. The rest is history. Hopefully, the Democrats learned a bitter lesson. Being nice guys in Washington doesn't work. I say get out there and exploit the bad things the GOP is doing. Work to take as many seats as possible in 2018. No nice guys.
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I hope the lesson is truly learned.
I'm glad to see Congressional Democrats - finally - getting the message. The voting public is more furious than I have ever seen in my lifetime. Voters are angry, fearful- and mobilized.
We expect fighters. The days of "third way" winnowing and bargaining and deal-making with the GOP are over. In fact, that's what brought us to this point. For decades, we've been willing to compromise, to bake half a loaf, and "meet the GOP half way" despite the fact that "half way" has been dragged further and further rightward. Despite the complete lack of integrity and mutuality by the Republican party. Despite the GOP idea of bipartisanship being "my way or else". Despite government shutdowns, sabotage, economic gutting, and fiscal cliffs.
You don't bargain with the insanity, extremism, and bigotry that Trump represents. You fight it, and you kill it dead. That's the only way.
We expect fighters. The days of "third way" winnowing and bargaining and deal-making with the GOP are over. In fact, that's what brought us to this point. For decades, we've been willing to compromise, to bake half a loaf, and "meet the GOP half way" despite the fact that "half way" has been dragged further and further rightward. Despite the complete lack of integrity and mutuality by the Republican party. Despite the GOP idea of bipartisanship being "my way or else". Despite government shutdowns, sabotage, economic gutting, and fiscal cliffs.
You don't bargain with the insanity, extremism, and bigotry that Trump represents. You fight it, and you kill it dead. That's the only way.
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you make the Republicans sound like cockroaches, but you are too kind to the Republicans and unfair to the roaches.
Good news. Time to get a spine Democrats and fight back for our country. JUST SAY NO to everything Traitor Trump pushes forward. The Republican Party has been captured by a sociopath and a contingent of racists and communist. There is nothing good in Trump's agenda for the USA...he is doing the bidding of Putin and the very rich. Wake up America!
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Please be very, very careful. The Republicans have been incredibly effective in capturing the hearts and minds of a lot of Americans. Their message is crystal clear: lower taxes and eliminate regulations. It's a simple, elegant statement that resonates with people. It appeals to their primitive need for instant gratification and self preservation.
At this point, I see no substantive or sustainable opposition to the administration. If we face the brutal facts, it seems likely that 45 isn't going anywhere for a long time. Please don't underestimate the Republicans or the new !mecile in the White House.
At this point, I see no substantive or sustainable opposition to the administration. If we face the brutal facts, it seems likely that 45 isn't going anywhere for a long time. Please don't underestimate the Republicans or the new !mecile in the White House.
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Yes, they've been successful in brainwashing people but they are about to betray those same people in more ways than one.
Cons don't last forever.
Cons don't last forever.
Please be very careful not to under estimate the "new imbecile" in the White House, he defeated all the establishment Republicans and Hilary. Also, try and be less patronizing about Trump supporters after 8 years of a do nothing government their support for Trump is hardly instant gratification.
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At least I don't parrot conservative talking points. Please be specific about a "do nothing" government. If it was so do nothing, why is the current administration attempting to dismantle everything it does?
LOL. As though the Democrats are the opposition party.
The Dems are very happy where they are as the minority party, posturing and pretending to be progressive while collecting the same corporate campaign donations as the Republicans. They're actually not particularly interested in winning elections; if they were in a position to make good on some of their promises, it would displease their Wall St. or pharmaceutical industry donors and the money would stop rolling in.
The Dems are very happy where they are as the minority party, posturing and pretending to be progressive while collecting the same corporate campaign donations as the Republicans. They're actually not particularly interested in winning elections; if they were in a position to make good on some of their promises, it would displease their Wall St. or pharmaceutical industry donors and the money would stop rolling in.
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Our neighbors voted for Trump and the only thing we can do about that is to talk about the weather. Trump/Ryan will cut Medicare and Social Security next, but will get away with that too. How? Simple. They will claim that illegal immigrants are sucking Medicare dry. If Medicare is cut, that is merely proof that the illegal immigrants did, in fact, suck the system dry!! Proof. Social Security: Same process. Is the Democratic leadership aware of what is going on?
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Omg! Schumer, Pelosi, Perez..same old, nothing new there. Democrats managed to hold on to their old rotten leadership ideals while just using Sanders and Warren as fig leaves. No, i have very little hope for change for the people or even future election victories coming from this miserable group of sell outs that just want to hold on to their chairs for personal profit.
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It's not only failing to find their way, it's failing to articulate any way that the Democrats do find. What was Hillary's campaign slogan? What was Trump's? You don't know Hillary's? I thought not.
At this moment, Paul Ryan is telling reporters that many will lose their health care in the name of "choice". And where are the Democrats Right Now In the Moment saying "Choose To Die Says Paul Ryan -- No Insurance For you!"
It's not just a matter of wanting to fight, it's being rhetorically powerful and clear. Learn to talk, Democrats.
At this moment, Paul Ryan is telling reporters that many will lose their health care in the name of "choice". And where are the Democrats Right Now In the Moment saying "Choose To Die Says Paul Ryan -- No Insurance For you!"
It's not just a matter of wanting to fight, it's being rhetorically powerful and clear. Learn to talk, Democrats.
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Given the fact that the New York Times is attempting to drive subscriptions based upon its opposition to Trump and the Republicans everyone should question its "journalism" (which has always been questionable to begin with) which seems intended to sell information to the adoring liberal/progressive masses and make as much money as they can from this business model. This "article" is a perfect example.
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Democrats have fallen asleep at the helm, lacking the foresight and diligence to combat the atrocities imposed on them and the country by the GOP. The overwhelming sadness of this reality is that we have a president in the oval office that is incompetent, sadistic and vengeful to name a few. In many ways the Democrats are responsible for not rallying the voters more than they did and calling Trump out during the campaign. The Democrats were so confident they would win that they let their guard down. The Democrats took a back seat and enjoyed the campaign ride until it hit a detour to a dead end resulting in the catastrophic election of Trump.
Unfortunately for the Democrats and the country…..it took the election of Trump to wake them up from a stupor.
Unfortunately for the Democrats and the country…..it took the election of Trump to wake them up from a stupor.
The democrats have to do more than just say no. They have to find viable, smart, attractive candidates to run against the GOP bozos at every level.
They must stop trying to be rational with the snarling brutes in Congress and in Trump's mob. Ridicule and laugh at their blatant faults, simplistic plans, ignorance of the issues. Take a leaf from their dear leader's playbook and punch holes in their statements only without ad hominem insults. Leave that to SNL.
Democrats have to begin winning back all the state houses they have lost. They have to gain power before the next census and the maybe fatal gerrymandering by the GOP.
Democrats need new leadership. The Wasserman-Schultz debacle was only the Titanic finally hitting the iceberg that was apparent for some time. Maybe Perez and Elison can provide it, but Pelosi and Schumer have all but passed their sell-by dates.
Get organized, get a strong, effective ground game, get viable candidates, and all but run their campaigns for them if they are floundering.
Do whatever it takes to defeat the GOP and their execrable figurehead, the disgraceful president. Saying no is just the first, but necessary step in a very long slog.
Then get a big supply of rope and give it to the GOP leadership in ever increasing doses. Because they have shown repeatedly that they will hang themselves with little help, so the Democrats need to help them.
They must stop trying to be rational with the snarling brutes in Congress and in Trump's mob. Ridicule and laugh at their blatant faults, simplistic plans, ignorance of the issues. Take a leaf from their dear leader's playbook and punch holes in their statements only without ad hominem insults. Leave that to SNL.
Democrats have to begin winning back all the state houses they have lost. They have to gain power before the next census and the maybe fatal gerrymandering by the GOP.
Democrats need new leadership. The Wasserman-Schultz debacle was only the Titanic finally hitting the iceberg that was apparent for some time. Maybe Perez and Elison can provide it, but Pelosi and Schumer have all but passed their sell-by dates.
Get organized, get a strong, effective ground game, get viable candidates, and all but run their campaigns for them if they are floundering.
Do whatever it takes to defeat the GOP and their execrable figurehead, the disgraceful president. Saying no is just the first, but necessary step in a very long slog.
Then get a big supply of rope and give it to the GOP leadership in ever increasing doses. Because they have shown repeatedly that they will hang themselves with little help, so the Democrats need to help them.
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Sadly, this is what actually qualifies as "fake news." It is based on magical thinking. It is based on a premise supported by cherry-picked anecdotal evidence. Yes, logic would tell us that a president as ignorant, unqualified and tyrannical as Donald Trump would make the opposition look brilliant by comparison. But there is no polling or other verifiable evidence to indicate growing support for Democrats, of which I am one. The ignorant masses that voted for Trump will never admit they were wrong until the inevitable economic collapse comes. Even then, they will probably still blame Obama. Until then, they will simply manufacture excuses for every foolish and destructive action, such as The Wall, that Trump promotes. Trump has Made America Stupid Again. He is Man-Child II, and failure is not only an option but a certainty.
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This will evoke anger but -- Sanders had never been a Democrat, in 40 years or so of politicking, and his demands that the party support him caused the first big rift, one that wasted time and energy that could have gone into more grassroots work on the states’ level. It also created huge infighting, which was damaging. Sorry, Bernie has some important ideas but he also fueled an anti-Hillary crowd within her own party, which I might add again, he had never part of yet demanded loyalty. Strategically, he was the first destructive distraction to a Democratic win.
The other reason why we lost is because Trump is a dirty player. It’s that simple. He acts like he re-wrote the play book, but all he did was sucker punch everyone from every angle. That ain’t new, but violent America loved it and called for more. Trump is our great shame.
But painting the Democrats as opposition? Not a good idea, since that sounds like they want to pick up the pieces and glue them together again for more of the same old. Opposition to what, Trump? Trump is a waste of time. Keep him in check as much as possible, but focus on building a party that works for all Americans. Democrats did operate as coastal elitists, and the country showed their take on that. The take-away here is that America needs to be the focus, not Trump.
The other reason why we lost is because Trump is a dirty player. It’s that simple. He acts like he re-wrote the play book, but all he did was sucker punch everyone from every angle. That ain’t new, but violent America loved it and called for more. Trump is our great shame.
But painting the Democrats as opposition? Not a good idea, since that sounds like they want to pick up the pieces and glue them together again for more of the same old. Opposition to what, Trump? Trump is a waste of time. Keep him in check as much as possible, but focus on building a party that works for all Americans. Democrats did operate as coastal elitists, and the country showed their take on that. The take-away here is that America needs to be the focus, not Trump.
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So the Democrats decided to wait until they lost the Presidency, Congress and countless local offices to start to "lead from behind". Great plan there guys.
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the only person the rope-a-dope worked for was mohammed ali
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I would recommend everybody watch the 1976 movie "Network" and especially listen to Ned Beatty's monologue to Peter Finch towards the end. It explains so much of what is happening in 2017.
Secondly, I would watch the first episode of "The Newsroom" and listen to Jeff Daniels monologue response to the question: "Is The U.S. the greatest country in the world. Paddy Chayefsky ("Network Writer" and Aaron Sorkin "The Newsroom" writer) had a clarity that most politicians lack!
Secondly, I would watch the first episode of "The Newsroom" and listen to Jeff Daniels monologue response to the question: "Is The U.S. the greatest country in the world. Paddy Chayefsky ("Network Writer" and Aaron Sorkin "The Newsroom" writer) had a clarity that most politicians lack!
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why wait
here it is now
There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today
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There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk
here it is now
There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today
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There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk
This better mean no to any Supreme Court appointee that's not middle of the road.
mojo-a magic spell, hex, or charm; broadly : magical power
Would not the regaining of "mojo" include some kind of success?
Maybe learn the actual lesson of the election- Your focus was wrong. Instead of talking about how horrible Trump and those who like him are you should have been focused on policies. I wanted Bernie, HRC would have just been another round of reagan just like her husband was and that has obscured the harm deregulation has done us because of how much people liked the economy he was busy undermining with deregulation.
Focus on what is right instead of focusing on winning.
Do The Right Thing, the 'most good for the most people' the winning will follow no magic or mojo necessary.
Would not the regaining of "mojo" include some kind of success?
Maybe learn the actual lesson of the election- Your focus was wrong. Instead of talking about how horrible Trump and those who like him are you should have been focused on policies. I wanted Bernie, HRC would have just been another round of reagan just like her husband was and that has obscured the harm deregulation has done us because of how much people liked the economy he was busy undermining with deregulation.
Focus on what is right instead of focusing on winning.
Do The Right Thing, the 'most good for the most people' the winning will follow no magic or mojo necessary.
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The Democratic leadership may still not realize they're riding the back of a tiger.
Americans are basically optimists; basically fair; basically truthful; basically willing to work toward a goal. It was those values that induced government to give us the 8 hour work day, Social Security, Medicare, the SEC, and dozens of other programs designed to help all of us as well as keep order in the economy.
When Americans see these values undercut by scaremongers, classists, liars and cheats, they react. People like Schumer and Pelosi, et al had better get religion awfully quickly or they will indeed "go down in their First Class seats on the Titanic."
Democratic leaders should remember that it was those blue collar, traditional Democrats in the rust best who gave Trump their vote because they saw Clinton as one of those people sitting in First Class. The spirit of FDR still lives.
Americans are basically optimists; basically fair; basically truthful; basically willing to work toward a goal. It was those values that induced government to give us the 8 hour work day, Social Security, Medicare, the SEC, and dozens of other programs designed to help all of us as well as keep order in the economy.
When Americans see these values undercut by scaremongers, classists, liars and cheats, they react. People like Schumer and Pelosi, et al had better get religion awfully quickly or they will indeed "go down in their First Class seats on the Titanic."
Democratic leaders should remember that it was those blue collar, traditional Democrats in the rust best who gave Trump their vote because they saw Clinton as one of those people sitting in First Class. The spirit of FDR still lives.
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Any opposition party walks a fine line between being constructive and just screeching for the heck of it. I believe the Democrat Party had a much better chance with Bernie Sanders, but they sold their birthright for a mess of pottage and the belief that either electing a woman or allowing a Clinton to have "her turn" was a grand idea. Democrats and their agents need to be more discriminating and particular about what they target or people will just turn them off.
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Just to set the record straight, Trump is the "flawed" candidate, not Hillary Clinton.
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Au contraire. Hilary Clinton was deeply flawed before even securing the party's nomination. So flawed, in fact, that she was arguably the only Democrat remotely capable of losing the election to Menken's imbecile.
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Sadly, I have to agree with Mr. Spanier. As it turned out, Barack Obama told a bit of a lie when he said, "You're likable enough, Hillary." It was not a bold-faced untruth like the whoppers President Trump delivers on a regular basis but, as a presidential candidate, Mrs. Clinton just wasn't that likable.
Yes a 70 year old fist pumping politician with cartoonish text bubbles may be funny to this folks at this paper, all or nothing politics means the rest of us working people suffer. Courage to me and millions of others would be if our elected leaders from both parties stood up and said "I will work with and negotiate with the other side for the good of the people".
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As far as I can tell, it seems that the legislation the GOP is envisioning (health-care law in particular) will hurt the Trump voters the most. The question is whether they'll realize they were conned and vote accordingly (or just stay home) next time.
Dems have to have more than No! to win in 2018. They need leadership that proposes cost-effective solutions to rising heath-care costs and job creation. You give this to the electorate, you win.
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The Democratic candidate won the national vote. Democrats nearly ran the table to regain the senate. If not for "The Great Gerrymander" of 2010 Democrats would control the House.
Democrats never lost their mojo. They just did not realize how cynically depraved and criminal the opposition is, nor did they account for the visceral hatred of democracy and truth that is now a bedrock of Republican party politics.
Democrats never lost their mojo. They just did not realize how cynically depraved and criminal the opposition is, nor did they account for the visceral hatred of democracy and truth that is now a bedrock of Republican party politics.
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The Democratic candidate won New York and California. That and 99 cents will buy you a really large Slurpee here in Tucson. The Democrats have lost the senate, the house, thousands of statewide legislative races and the majority of governorships. The sooner the party stalwarts and membership come to grips with reality, the sooner the party can regain some of its squandered political power. Coming to grips with reality means to quit making excuses and blaming outsiders and then working hard to rebuild a dying party. An unlikely scenario.
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Apparently it is going to take more than the dramatic defeat of that awful candidate, Hillary Clinton, and all that she stands for, to bring the Democratic Party to its senses.
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Nuts. So establishment democrats like Schumer, Booker and Tom Perez swoop in to steal the megaphone from progressives. And progressives are left with signs and pussy hats. That will change the world!
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No, it's the reality of how harmful Trump's actions and demagoguery really ARE! A lot of people were saying "give him a chance; he can't be THAT bad"!
Well, we've seen what his intents, are and they're a threat to pretty much all that's good and to serve the interests of the greedy, powerful, and simply evil!
Well, we've seen what his intents, are and they're a threat to pretty much all that's good and to serve the interests of the greedy, powerful, and simply evil!
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A long article with a very short message, the dems are weak and out of touch. We are screwed!
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Deport Spicer.
To quote: "It's such a great country that allows you to be here." (Spicer)
This was said, and recorded by a native born American citizen.
Okay. Equally,, deport Spicer. He's no more American,, probably less.
To quote: "It's such a great country that allows you to be here." (Spicer)
This was said, and recorded by a native born American citizen.
Okay. Equally,, deport Spicer. He's no more American,, probably less.
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"This was said, and recorded by a native born American citizen."
Who is a liberal agitator who was harassing Spicer when he was in a store. Save us the faux outrage. If anything people should be outraged by her disgusting and obnoxious behavior.
Who is a liberal agitator who was harassing Spicer when he was in a store. Save us the faux outrage. If anything people should be outraged by her disgusting and obnoxious behavior.
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Well, I'm curious. What would you call a person or group that negotiates with a foreign government,, Russia for instance,, when not in power? Is that 'aid to the enemy'? And then lies about it?
Liberal? Conservative? I think neither have bearing on treason, or propriety. And silence IS offensive.
Liberal? Conservative? I think neither have bearing on treason, or propriety. And silence IS offensive.
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Every incoming administration has contacts with other countries before assuming office. Are you unaware of this fact?
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Yesterday, the news covered Joe Biden speaking about his fight to cure cancer.
Imagine, if the Democratic Party, and DNC, did not convince Joe Biden not to run (even tough he really wanted to), and rig the primary system to put up Hillary Clinton. Chances are very good Joe Biden would be the President of the United States today.
Even better, the Democrats probably would have gained seats in the House and would have the Senate.
But, the Democrats wanted to make history by electing the first woman president. Never the mind that this particular person was very unpopular with voters. And was the only possible choice that could lose to Donald Trump.
The thing is, have the Democrats finally figured out that they were completely out of touch with the electorate? Did they realized that they joined with the wealthy elite and celebrities, and ignored those who were the backbone of their party? Did the wonder why a number of blue collar voters voted GOP?
If the have not been able to answer these question, or figured out how to address them, being a party of "no" will hurt them big in 2018 and 202.
The voters want something done, and being teh party of "no" is not going to cut it. Especially when the party establishment created the mess of their own doing.
Imagine, if the Democratic Party, and DNC, did not convince Joe Biden not to run (even tough he really wanted to), and rig the primary system to put up Hillary Clinton. Chances are very good Joe Biden would be the President of the United States today.
Even better, the Democrats probably would have gained seats in the House and would have the Senate.
But, the Democrats wanted to make history by electing the first woman president. Never the mind that this particular person was very unpopular with voters. And was the only possible choice that could lose to Donald Trump.
The thing is, have the Democrats finally figured out that they were completely out of touch with the electorate? Did they realized that they joined with the wealthy elite and celebrities, and ignored those who were the backbone of their party? Did the wonder why a number of blue collar voters voted GOP?
If the have not been able to answer these question, or figured out how to address them, being a party of "no" will hurt them big in 2018 and 202.
The voters want something done, and being teh party of "no" is not going to cut it. Especially when the party establishment created the mess of their own doing.
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The thing is, have the Democrats finally figured out that they were completely out of touch with the electorate? Did they realized that they joined with the wealthy elite and celebrities, and ignored those who were the backbone of their party?
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No and no
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No and no
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The problem is that Joe is not, demeanor notwithstanding, the attack dog we need. Not only, despite his (mostly) reasonable positions, does he still prefer to work "across the aisle" with GOPers today who would say "NO" to him tomorrow, but he is *for* criminal prosecution of file-sharers and other forms of "intellectual property" copywrongery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden#Internet_... is enlightening about the badness he's, unfortunately, already brought there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden#Internet_... is enlightening about the badness he's, unfortunately, already brought there.
BR, fine. But let's face it Perlosi, Feinstein and Pelosi have enough baggage to make a Trump re-election possible. And, Sanders' moment came and went.
It is time to look at candidates from Gen X and Gen Y, Gen X fro president, Gen Y for Congress. The baby boomers have done in the Democrats.
It is time to look at candidates from Gen X and Gen Y, Gen X fro president, Gen Y for Congress. The baby boomers have done in the Democrats.
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Excellent news for a Monday morning. Here's more. Lawyers from President Obama's Justice Department are mobilizing to help STOP TRUMP across America. Eric Holder is working with California and on national redistricting and other lawyers are working on civil/immigration rights.
Combined with grassroots supporters of organizations like Indivisable.com, ACLU, Sierra Club, Women's movement, LGBT groups, and all the other socially conscious people who will NOT allow The Con Don and his Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron/ Radical Religion Good Old Boys' Party/ Cabal to destroy democracy in America - and OUR LIVES - WE will continue to resist, obstruct, protest, organize, sue, and use every non-violent means to overthrow these democracy-destroyers NOW.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-12/democrats-strike-back...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obama-lawyers-idUSKBN16K1MP
Combined with grassroots supporters of organizations like Indivisable.com, ACLU, Sierra Club, Women's movement, LGBT groups, and all the other socially conscious people who will NOT allow The Con Don and his Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron/ Radical Religion Good Old Boys' Party/ Cabal to destroy democracy in America - and OUR LIVES - WE will continue to resist, obstruct, protest, organize, sue, and use every non-violent means to overthrow these democracy-destroyers NOW.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-12/democrats-strike-back...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obama-lawyers-idUSKBN16K1MP
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Please remember that this phrase also captures HRC (who apparently wasn't the most qualified candidate for President ever ;-0)
"Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron"
"Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron"
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No, it does not Nyalman. Nice try though.
No, we are not going backwards!
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the usa is going backward so fast you think its going forward
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My worry is that too many low information Republicans truly believe everything they hear on Trump--oops, I mean Fox so-called News. Everything. They have been fed propaganda 24/7 for the past ten years and they are effectively brainwashed. Facts mean nothing to them. What do we do with tens of millions of people like this? They want change but they keep re-electing the same old same old; they want jobs but refuse to embrace new forms of energy, new ideas, new technologies; they claim to love hunting and fishing but don't care about climate change or the environment; they claim to be Christian but don't care about the poor, the sick, the elderly or immigrants. What do we do with knuckleheads like this?
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For starters we can do away with the myth that we're all equal. The statements here seem to imply that conservatives are beyond help...couched in terms that the Left has devised, what should we do with all those Right-wing deplorables...?
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Well, the new political correctness police don't like it when you call Trump supporters, "knuckleheads". Aside from that, time and poor healthcare should reduce the number of these folks in the next 20 years.
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That's the crux of our problem: 63 million people up and declared themselves beyond saving that November. That's less than who voted for Clinton, but that's still 63 million dead wrong.
What do we *do* with them? Give them an all-Democrat Senate and House, that they may feel the pain of not belonging that they have so routinely hurts us with (e.g. "Go back to your country!"). Maybe some amendments to the Constitution, especially to the Second Amendment, will be the push they need to go en masse to a religiously hardline, anti-woman country more to their taste, like Saudi Arabia.
We've turned our cheek far more than any of those "Christians", but they want to get rid of us entirely, and we must reject that parcel.
What do we *do* with them? Give them an all-Democrat Senate and House, that they may feel the pain of not belonging that they have so routinely hurts us with (e.g. "Go back to your country!"). Maybe some amendments to the Constitution, especially to the Second Amendment, will be the push they need to go en masse to a religiously hardline, anti-woman country more to their taste, like Saudi Arabia.
We've turned our cheek far more than any of those "Christians", but they want to get rid of us entirely, and we must reject that parcel.
Many democrats are energized, true. But until Warren's and Sanders' rhetoric sound like mainstream democratic ideals, I'm not convinced that the party as a whole gets it. The biggest problems facing our country are corruption and inequality. Everything else is noise.
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We are facing the most corrupt administration, backed up by the most corrupt political party, that we have ever witnessed. They make Grant's "Whiskey Ring" cabinet, Harding's "Ohio Gang," and Nixon's "CREEPers" look like rank amateurs when it comes to corruption. Add to it that the so called president is blatantly daring congress to impeach him for his flagrant violations of the Constitution and law and DC is a toxic brew of sin and inequity.
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Let us not male the perfect the enemy of the good or 1/2way sustainable 4 kids.
I'm with you. There is good in the democratic party - lots of it actually. I love Franken so much. I voted for Hillary, would do it again. But the excuses for why they lost - all wrong-headed.
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they will blow it. Look for Pelosi/Weiner ticket in 2020.
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Be serious, please.
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Sherrod Brown / Kamala Harris is a winning ticket.
Kirsten Gillebrand / Corey Booker is a winning ticket.
Kirsten Gillebrand / Corey Booker is a winning ticket.
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Too funny! Horrifying if they actually try it!
A protest party with a clear vision is just an annoyance. Like OccupyWallStreet, BLM and all the other unorganized nuisances, the current Democratic party will fade away. Hopefully they'll take Schumer, Pelosi and Warren with them. Good riddance.
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Whoops ^ 'without a clear vision'
My opinion is that both democrat and republican politicians are self-serving egotistical no good.
Thus I have absolutely no faith in them to do what is in the interest of the country and its people,
The republicans were a party of NO, they said No to many good ideas the last administration proposed.
Now the democratic party is poised to do the same -- in all tit-for-tat fairness.
Who loses?
The country, You, Me.
I proposed that these self-serving egotistical maniacs get no pay if at the end of each year their policies do not improve the lives of people in their respective state and the country.
Thus I have absolutely no faith in them to do what is in the interest of the country and its people,
The republicans were a party of NO, they said No to many good ideas the last administration proposed.
Now the democratic party is poised to do the same -- in all tit-for-tat fairness.
Who loses?
The country, You, Me.
I proposed that these self-serving egotistical maniacs get no pay if at the end of each year their policies do not improve the lives of people in their respective state and the country.
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It's quite easy to cast aspersions everywhere. Please add some constructive ideas to help your country move forward. Thanks.
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Never mistake motion for action - Ernest Hemingway
I think the people who vote for Democratic candidates (occasionally holding our noses as we do so) have their mojo back. I see nothing that tells me the Democratic Party has its mojo back. It's the same-old, same-old with, perhaps a new twist. "Maybe we need to focus more on rural white people, instead of all those people of color, the LGBTQ, urban poor". "Step to the right" seems to be the only dance move the party leaders know.
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The Democrats had an opportunity to at least appear come together as an opposition party when they gathered to elect a new head of the DNC. The two touted party favorites (Perez and Ellison) struggled mightily and brought forth a mouse of a compromise. Incredibly, the DNC members ignored the one candidate, Pete Buttigieg, who if selected as deputy to Perez, could have brought its membership together and attracted cadres of energized progressives and 2016 MIAs, to its membership rolls.
Instead the party "leaders" opted for first class bunks on the unsinkable Titanic.
Instead the party "leaders" opted for first class bunks on the unsinkable Titanic.
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"transformed the Democrats."
They seem to be transformed into a bunch of name-calling, fake-news-parroting, deranged snowflakes.
It was a modest change.
They seem to be transformed into a bunch of name-calling, fake-news-parroting, deranged snowflakes.
It was a modest change.
So tell us something we don't know.
Why did educated middle and upper middle class voters go with Trump?
Why were so many of them women?
That's the column you need to write.
Part of it was because of warped perception, fake news, and overblown coverage. My friends collage educated cousin married to an attorney voted for Trump because "Hillary is a liar and received money from outside the US." Go figure.
Why did educated middle and upper middle class voters go with Trump?
Why were so many of them women?
That's the column you need to write.
Part of it was because of warped perception, fake news, and overblown coverage. My friends collage educated cousin married to an attorney voted for Trump because "Hillary is a liar and received money from outside the US." Go figure.
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I know people like that too. People who are badly frightened are very susceptible to Repub-style propaganda, regardless of educational level and some in part because of their or family personal experiences in war (as both victims and especially as military aggressors who participated in mass killings they don't want to see here).
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Perhaps there are people who simply do not agree with your views. Perhaps, just perhaps, you are human and fallible and may not be correct about everything. I know this is apostasy for the Left, who operate like a cult and brook no dissent from their opinions.
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If there is one thing history has taught us over the past few decades, its that the one single thing we can count on from Democrats is their ability to blow elections.
Yes, there is no other way for the Democrats to stop the pillaging of our Country from the new Chengiz Khan. No, No, No is the operative word. Unlike the Republican Party, the new Party of No can save our Country from being blown off into smithereens. The Democrats have really no other recourse with the Republicans having control of all three branches ( even the Supreme Court! ) and most of the State Governors.
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The party's over, it's time to call it a day. This describes the Democratic Party to a tee.
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Some people have been saying exactly that about the GOP for a few years now, and yet, here they are ...
It's never too late to change. It's just a matter of having the bravery to do so.
If some leaders from the DNC called up all the talk, interview, and news programs, and said that the party is going in a radical new direction and wanted to talk about it, they would get a dozen cameras and microphones in an instant.
That's what they can do. Not go home. Do something about the problem.
It's never too late to change. It's just a matter of having the bravery to do so.
If some leaders from the DNC called up all the talk, interview, and news programs, and said that the party is going in a radical new direction and wanted to talk about it, they would get a dozen cameras and microphones in an instant.
That's what they can do. Not go home. Do something about the problem.
Yeah...but.....here's a list of things that went wrong:
1. Lowest voter turn out of any recent presidential election. Where were the Millennials?!
2. Russian interference. Though it has not yet been proven Donald's collusion with Russia!
3. The media did not aggressively call-out Donald's lies from the beginning, but instead covered this misogynistic-narcissist constantly!
4. The Democrats did not do what Pres. Obama had done in his campaigns, which is to campaign everywhere! Leave no small town unvisited! They gave up on Ohio!!!
We, Liberals, Independents, etc., who are protesting are the majority that gave Hillary the popular vote win, by almost 2.5 million over the clown that was her opponent. We're fired up! We're ready to go and fight to move America forward! The Democratic leadership needs to step up and do all they can to make sure that #45 does not completely destroy our nation!
1. Lowest voter turn out of any recent presidential election. Where were the Millennials?!
2. Russian interference. Though it has not yet been proven Donald's collusion with Russia!
3. The media did not aggressively call-out Donald's lies from the beginning, but instead covered this misogynistic-narcissist constantly!
4. The Democrats did not do what Pres. Obama had done in his campaigns, which is to campaign everywhere! Leave no small town unvisited! They gave up on Ohio!!!
We, Liberals, Independents, etc., who are protesting are the majority that gave Hillary the popular vote win, by almost 2.5 million over the clown that was her opponent. We're fired up! We're ready to go and fight to move America forward! The Democratic leadership needs to step up and do all they can to make sure that #45 does not completely destroy our nation!
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You have hit the nail squarely on its head. The rurals, already feeling disenfranchised, were skipped over completely by the campaigning dems. Is it any wonder why they didn't vote for those whom in their minds were elitists? The dems must raise a boatload 'o dough & blanket the entire US to save us in the upcoming elections.
The Dems reelected Nancy Pelosi. They don't care about what we care about.
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“People want someone to fight for them — that’s why they voted for Donald Trump. He might not actually do it, but he said he would fight for them."
Buried in the middle of the story is the plain statement of what happened, by Warren.
The rest is avoiding that problem.
Resisting Trump effectively would mean fighting for voters, and being seen to fight for them.
Do we see that? No. We see outrage, and "Hillary really won" but not fighting for the voters.
Buried in the middle of the story is the plain statement of what happened, by Warren.
The rest is avoiding that problem.
Resisting Trump effectively would mean fighting for voters, and being seen to fight for them.
Do we see that? No. We see outrage, and "Hillary really won" but not fighting for the voters.
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Being the party of no is a nil gain. It's especially troubling that the party (the DNC) has been the party of no as regards Bernie Sanders and Keith Ellison. If it continues in this vein, it will continue to be the party of no - no win.
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Calling the democrats, now in opposition to Trump's outrages, and the complicity of a republican congress, the 'party of no' is a gross and unjust exaggeration. If the G.O.P. were to restraint the craziness and unscrupulous behavior of our ignoramus-in-chief, I am sure that the opposition party would cooperate so to advance the country's needs and people's wishes. But, as long as we have a vulgar bully in office thrashing decency and honesty, by perpetually lying about everything and anything, it would be a mistake, a disservice to justice, to go along and rubber-stamp further inequities of a pseudo-tyrant. And the muzzling of the press, whose job it is to show reality as is, and the facts to support it, is just one example of why the democratic opposition must stand firm. The will to stand on principle seems obvious. What remains to be seen is, do we have the courage of our convictions, and the hard work and perseverance it requires?
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Before and after the election, my Democratic Senators seemed far removed from me. They don't appear on radio talk shows on our local NPR stations, seldom receive any mention in my local newspaper, hold no town meetings and haven't for a few years, don't respond to specific content in e-mails and phone messages even when I check the box requesting a reply.
Just now, I'm listening to a careful probing of the potentially horrendous effects of changes to the ACA as an NPR interviewer talks to the VP of the American Hospital Association. Appropriately, the tone is neutral, though if one thinks about the import of the words, one might worry. Here in Seattle, Democrats come out in large numbers to march and demonstrate. There's so much energy, such a desire to effectively fight for immigrants, refugees, the poor, affordable health insurance, those seeking educational opportunities, the environment, etc.
Where does my steam run down and begin to turn into despair? The total lack of connection with my Democratic Senators, who are off doing important things (surely) and casting votes in sync with my views most of the time. I think what they do in Washington D.C. is important, but please - establish and strengthen a link with us, be our leaders, enunciate Democratic values where we can read or hear that, hold town meetings, appear on radio talk shows in the red parts of the state. Be our effective and passionate messengers!
Please.
Just now, I'm listening to a careful probing of the potentially horrendous effects of changes to the ACA as an NPR interviewer talks to the VP of the American Hospital Association. Appropriately, the tone is neutral, though if one thinks about the import of the words, one might worry. Here in Seattle, Democrats come out in large numbers to march and demonstrate. There's so much energy, such a desire to effectively fight for immigrants, refugees, the poor, affordable health insurance, those seeking educational opportunities, the environment, etc.
Where does my steam run down and begin to turn into despair? The total lack of connection with my Democratic Senators, who are off doing important things (surely) and casting votes in sync with my views most of the time. I think what they do in Washington D.C. is important, but please - establish and strengthen a link with us, be our leaders, enunciate Democratic values where we can read or hear that, hold town meetings, appear on radio talk shows in the red parts of the state. Be our effective and passionate messengers!
Please.
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Join Indivisible. Google for a group near you. The change is going to come from the bottom this time ... Democratic leaders have no frame of reference for a popular uprising, and we need to tell them what we want, ad alta voce.
Said Senator Schumer, "I'm learning to start fires".
May the controlled fires burn long and bright,
spreading heated ire from shore to shore,
signaling our strength, hope, and unity
against Trump's greedy Tyranny.
It's a fight for our nation's future -- only responsible adults allowed.
We shall overcome!
May the controlled fires burn long and bright,
spreading heated ire from shore to shore,
signaling our strength, hope, and unity
against Trump's greedy Tyranny.
It's a fight for our nation's future -- only responsible adults allowed.
We shall overcome!
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Then again, perhaps an ill wind will blow, and you will get burned by the flames you nurtured.
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Maybe you misread "controlled fires".
Managing risks leads to success.
Managing risks leads to success.
A bit premature, don't you think? There's still no obvious plan for winning local and statewide elections. Without that, how do you expect to win back governorships, the house, the senate, and stave off yet another round of Republican gerrymandering?
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Have you heard of Indivisible? Go find one near you. There is a lot of strategy going on, and its bubbling up from the grassroots. This and other movements are driving the Democratic party to pay attention. They'd better, because if they don't, the people may just create a progressive version of the Tea Party and leave the leaders choking in the dust.
I was born in California and been a Democrat ever since registering to vote back in 1973 when I was eighteen. But now I feel the way about it the same way as the front lawns we can't keep green here anymore because of the drought . . . it ain't worth the water for all the good it does to keep grass growing where it doesn't belong. Learning to let go of an unrealistic fantasy is probably the best thing anybody can do for themselves in terms of finding what's real. The desert really isn't that bad once you stop trying to fight it and learn to see it for what it is.
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The Democratic mantra: "Lead from behind!"
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The problem of the democratic parties resistence begins with Chuck [ Ilove Wall Street money } Schumer.
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and Nancy Pelosi who was reelected leader because of her fundraising prowess
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"We're mad as hell and we won't take it any more".
I forgot the name of the movie that line is from, but it sure seems apropos at this junction of time a circumstance.
I forgot the name of the movie that line is from, but it sure seems apropos at this junction of time a circumstance.
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The movie was "Network."
"Network" - Written by the wonderful late Paddy Chayefsky and spoke by the incredibly talented late Peter Finch!
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"Network"
When you are operating in the target rich, open mouth, insert foot environment Mr. Trump has created, it would be easy to get your groove back.
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For all its emotional chest thumping and TV camera ready manufactured street "protests" since its political ouster, the Democratic party leaders have not identified or advanced one single new or constructive idea. It seems clear that liberal government is tapped out and the absence of any new leadership may well be its death knell. Does anyone really believe that Nancy and Chuck are the answer to a party victory in 2020?
So until the Democrats find a direction or address the factors that got Trump elected, they will just have to hope that he bungles the new policies to address the four issues that got him elected; the economy, Obamacare, Islamic terrorism, and illegal immigration.
So until the Democrats find a direction or address the factors that got Trump elected, they will just have to hope that he bungles the new policies to address the four issues that got him elected; the economy, Obamacare, Islamic terrorism, and illegal immigration.
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Street protests are completely grass roots. I know, because I've participated in them and they're genuine. But I agree that the Democratic Party needs renovation, and what we really need is a genuine progressive party shaped by the likes of Bernie and others more progressive than he is, to blast through the racism that keeps people with common cause from joining together. Of course, teaching all those working-class white people that they've got common cause with a lot of working-class brown people and what that power could mean, is an uphill struggle. Poorer white Americans have always been manipulated by demagogues like Trump to believe that even if they're poor, they're still better than someone else who has darker skin. If those people could get to know each other, they might realize that their concerns are the same, and could see how they've been pitted against each other for centuries primarily to benefit the needs and interests of politicians and their billionaire pimps.
For all its emotional chest thumping and TV camera ready manufactured street "protests" since its political ouster, the Democratic party leaders have not identified or advanced one single new or constructive idea. It seems clear that liberal government is tapped out and the absence of any new leadership may well be its death knell
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No ideas. No mojo
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No ideas. No mojo
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Is this to suggest that the GOP had any fresh ideas of their own? Get real. The GOP won on opposition fomented by years of spreading mistrust based on lies. Their "fresh" ideas are more of the same failed Reagan supply side ideology that led us to the high levels of debt that the supply siders can use as an excuse to dismantle the social safety net that has always been their primary end game. There is nothing new in what the GOP offers, unless you are of the .1% who stands to benefit from what they hope to put in place.
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I always am amused by political writers who apparently no nothing of either U.S. history, political science, or the social and cultural factions of the United States outside of the Washington D.C. and New York Media Village. First, the obvious recent history, is that Republicans spent the last 8 years saying "No" to President Obama and the Democrats, of threatening debt ceiling catastrophes and openly bragging about sabotaging the Affordable Care Act, Environmental Law, and immigration policy and the rode that "No" to Congressional majorities, dominance in State Government, and now the Presidency. Since saying "No" seems a tried and true political practice, I think the Democrats may want to give it a try and make the Republicans own all the consequences of the radical, reactionary, and unpopular agenda they are about to push through for their donors, roughly 80% of the richest 5,000 families in the U.S.
You still have not wrapped your heads around what a radical, authoritarian, white nationalist party the Republican Party has become. We are one incident from a mass incarceration of Muslims in this country (and those who Trump, Bannon, and Steve King believe sympathize with Muslims, which would pretty much include all liberals).
Look at the proposed "health care" and "tax reform" policies. They are at bottom primarily about cutting taxes for the rich and returning the U.S. to the way it existed before the New Deal in 1932. No to that!!
You still have not wrapped your heads around what a radical, authoritarian, white nationalist party the Republican Party has become. We are one incident from a mass incarceration of Muslims in this country (and those who Trump, Bannon, and Steve King believe sympathize with Muslims, which would pretty much include all liberals).
Look at the proposed "health care" and "tax reform" policies. They are at bottom primarily about cutting taxes for the rich and returning the U.S. to the way it existed before the New Deal in 1932. No to that!!
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Short memory.
Do you remember what happened when some conservative commentators said they did not want Obama to succeed after he won the election? The hell broke open. They were banded unpatriotic and racist (they were neither).
Imagine if the Congress Republicans and the outgoing President embarked on the activity which only remotely resembled what Dems and Obama are doing right now.
Do you remember what happened when some conservative commentators said they did not want Obama to succeed after he won the election? The hell broke open. They were banded unpatriotic and racist (they were neither).
Imagine if the Congress Republicans and the outgoing President embarked on the activity which only remotely resembled what Dems and Obama are doing right now.
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Mass incarceration of Muslims? Really? That's a pretty strong statement. Looking around I get the impression that at no time before in our history have the majority bent over backwards to this extent to accommodate Muslims and other cultures. Unfortunately it's become fashionable to express sympathy and such judgements without addressing true issues that face the country. We are trillions and trillions of dollars in debt but it seems its a bad thing when we cut foreign aid. We have a homelessness and unemployment problem that persists in this country, especially amongst minorities but there are people more interested in protecting refugees and protesting a temporary ban of people from certain countries to visit the US.
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"Mojos (?)" don't win elections, candidates do. Until that happens the dems navel gazing and posturing will matter little. We can't say how successful the dems are at exercising power as an opposition until they begin to do so. Rallies don't matter in American politics. They are a sign of weakness and desperation, not strength. This isn't France. The dems need to make deals and get elected. Until then, it's just talk.
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Bla bla bla ... The Democrats are finished. A splintered party with self-serving, egocentric agendas. They can organize one heck of a drum circle and poetry slam- but they'll never show up to the polls..
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The Democrats had better be the Party of No to save the country--and civilization itself--from the predation of Trump and the Republicans.
NO to totalitarian rule by Republicans
NO to arbitrarily denying people their Constitutional rights
NO to cruel, heartless policies designed to subjugate American citizens to the sadistic will of the GOP
NO to President Bannon's plot to overthrow constitutional democracy
etc.
NO to totalitarian rule by Republicans
NO to arbitrarily denying people their Constitutional rights
NO to cruel, heartless policies designed to subjugate American citizens to the sadistic will of the GOP
NO to President Bannon's plot to overthrow constitutional democracy
etc.
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Charles, if the Democrats in congress want to take the party back to those glory days when they held all the power and the Republican party was on oxygen, then they've to remove their shackles that they put on themselves by trying to be Mr. Nice or Mrs. Gentle.
There were many reasons why Trump won and the Democrats lost everything.
And one of them was not capitalizing on Obama's win on Nov 4th,2008 when his win gave them the Senate with 60 Democrats to 40 Republican Senators.
But soon after, the Democrats fumbled miserably in the mid term elections in 2010, losing their majorities in the congress and also their strength and stamina that always defined our renowned party which is compassionate to begin with.
And compassionate till the end.
Our Senate Democrats started bungling one mistake after another.
With the healthcare bill first they consumed most of their time than creating jobs in America which should've been their No. 1 priority.
Second, being nice to the Republicans who'd made a resolve to malign Obama's legacy by bringing down his government, the Democrats got bogged down in lengthy discussions on the future of Obamacare.
The amount of time that they should've spent in creating jobs in America mainly through punishing the employers who were creating millions of jobs in impoverished countries, the Congressional Democrats went on adding countries to their NAFTA like agreements.
Lo and behold, we're suddenly in the minority in 2 branches of Government.
There were many reasons why Trump won and the Democrats lost everything.
And one of them was not capitalizing on Obama's win on Nov 4th,2008 when his win gave them the Senate with 60 Democrats to 40 Republican Senators.
But soon after, the Democrats fumbled miserably in the mid term elections in 2010, losing their majorities in the congress and also their strength and stamina that always defined our renowned party which is compassionate to begin with.
And compassionate till the end.
Our Senate Democrats started bungling one mistake after another.
With the healthcare bill first they consumed most of their time than creating jobs in America which should've been their No. 1 priority.
Second, being nice to the Republicans who'd made a resolve to malign Obama's legacy by bringing down his government, the Democrats got bogged down in lengthy discussions on the future of Obamacare.
The amount of time that they should've spent in creating jobs in America mainly through punishing the employers who were creating millions of jobs in impoverished countries, the Congressional Democrats went on adding countries to their NAFTA like agreements.
Lo and behold, we're suddenly in the minority in 2 branches of Government.
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Far more comfortable in the opposition role? Or the obstructionist role? I'm still waiting to see what rises from the ashes of the burning hulk. It seems the Democratic Party will settle for obstructionism until someone with a brain and a reasonable voice comes along to take the reigns from the old wind bags. Let's all hope that happens before mid term elections.
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tootin’ and the pump
donald craved money
and he needed it fast
none would lend him
(because of his past)
only the russian mob
out at brighton beach
needed this operative
egotist capitalist leach
grooming him for glory
becoming a media star
then their final objective
(take usa without a war)
donald craved money
and he needed it fast
none would lend him
(because of his past)
only the russian mob
out at brighton beach
needed this operative
egotist capitalist leach
grooming him for glory
becoming a media star
then their final objective
(take usa without a war)
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Where is Schumer's pledge that his sole aim is to make trump a one term president? McConnell has already set the example following suit with the most aggressive filibustering campaign in US history declaring that all Obama legislation should be blocked regardless of merit. Come on Schumer get with it!
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The party of "no" has less representation in the country than ever before in the history of the US - in state houses, governors, House, Senate. So how is that "no" working. Not too well by my tally. You guys at the Times will spin ANYTHING to make your positions look like they are working. Some of us aren't that stupid. Try again.
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It's arrogance, just like the Rs are showing now, that gets you into trouble. 6 bad senate candidates, Hillary not thinking on the email stuff, not needing NC or Florida, but wanting them for some reason. She should have spent the time in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Then the Comey thing, destroyed it all in one week,,,,wow.
Do the Dems really need to change anything or just make sure the message is clear. Start by having the Feds pay for any more medicaid expansion, remember it's a national problem so screw the states. National minimum wage, better educational help, get the rich to contribute to medicare and social security on taxing all income. Finally get us out of these Mideast Wars for once and for all. Start with that and then include better candidates. Better candidates means idea people with experience, not gender, color, ethnicity. Get a grip.
Do the Dems really need to change anything or just make sure the message is clear. Start by having the Feds pay for any more medicaid expansion, remember it's a national problem so screw the states. National minimum wage, better educational help, get the rich to contribute to medicare and social security on taxing all income. Finally get us out of these Mideast Wars for once and for all. Start with that and then include better candidates. Better candidates means idea people with experience, not gender, color, ethnicity. Get a grip.
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The true underlying problem that the democrats face is their dependence on big donors. Big money come with its own agenda and that agenda doesn't include the concerns of average voters. The democrats have done little (except for healthcare) in the last 8 years but they have raised several billion dollars for campaigns and as a result have lost the Senate, the House, the Presidency and most of the State Governorships. If Hillary had won the stock market would not have broken any records because she and the democrats are not focused on the economy nor have any ideas about what to do. It's pointless to resist when you have nothing better to offer.
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This article gives the false impression that the Democratic leadership has changed. It has not. Listen to Pelosi's tepid comments last Friday regarding the efforts to kill the ACA. Millions will lose their healthcare and thousands will die because of it, including children. Yet Pelosi sounded like she was addressing a middle school PTA meeting about the next bake sale. I immediately went online and changed my registration to Independent. The Democrats have no leader and don't know what they stand for.
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You should put a quote here from Pelosi. I don't know what you're talking about. Aren't you a bit too quick-triggered when it comes to changing party registration?
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/03/10/pelosi...
The GOP accused the Dems of "Death Panels" when the Dems wanted to help people get health care. Now that the GOP wants to take away that health care, which will literally put millions at risk of illness and death, Pelosi is "willing to deal".
The GOP accused the Dems of "Death Panels" when the Dems wanted to help people get health care. Now that the GOP wants to take away that health care, which will literally put millions at risk of illness and death, Pelosi is "willing to deal".
The real irony of the Trump/Bannon victory in the executive branch along with the Paul Ryan/Ayn Rand/Mitch McConnell/David, Charles Koch victory in the legislative branch is that the Trump voter is the one who will suffer the most by the government cuts that are in the works.
An added irony is that to the extent Democrats succeed in resisting those cuts, Trump voters will not give them the credit.
Democrats should formally establish a scorecard that lists Trump's "successes"' in keeping Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security intact; in bringing coal mining jobs back; in fighting the opioid epidemic; in bringing the economic growth rate up to 3%; in "draining the swamp; and in ending the domestic "carnage" occurring, especially of the firearm variety.
An added irony is that to the extent Democrats succeed in resisting those cuts, Trump voters will not give them the credit.
Democrats should formally establish a scorecard that lists Trump's "successes"' in keeping Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security intact; in bringing coal mining jobs back; in fighting the opioid epidemic; in bringing the economic growth rate up to 3%; in "draining the swamp; and in ending the domestic "carnage" occurring, especially of the firearm variety.
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My concern is that with a President that is really hard to respect and a Tea Party that really wants to do nothing (stop all legislation even if they support it) - our country is left paralyzed and vulnerable to the Steve Bannon's in power. Would it be dangerous to try to negotiate with Trump on healthcare on a policy that could benefit everyone while sidelining Paul Ryan and the Tea Party. Could the Dems somehow make this work in their favor despite our distaste for Trump, who has no policy leanings?
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As far as 2017-18 is concerned, yes, say "no!" But focus it on the Republicans in Congress, not Trump. Trump's supporters take it very personally. Don't remind them to vote Republican in 2018. Instead, revamp the Democrat message to "unite, not divide". Expand your message to encompass jobs and helping to address the opioid issue, for example, as well as "the usual suspects".
Let the Republicans yoke their wagons to Trump, if they so choose. Or they can try to run on their own popularity in Congress (ha!). But if you demonize Trump for the midterms to excite your base, you'll lose the opportunity to let some of his voters either sit home, or actually vote Democrat (as they have in the past). You need those votes, because the 2018 midterms will be fought disproportionately in red/purple states. Your base shouldn't need exciting at this point - if they do, heaven help you - so just facilitate voter reg & poll access. Wait until 2020 to go straight at Trump.
Let the Republicans yoke their wagons to Trump, if they so choose. Or they can try to run on their own popularity in Congress (ha!). But if you demonize Trump for the midterms to excite your base, you'll lose the opportunity to let some of his voters either sit home, or actually vote Democrat (as they have in the past). You need those votes, because the 2018 midterms will be fought disproportionately in red/purple states. Your base shouldn't need exciting at this point - if they do, heaven help you - so just facilitate voter reg & poll access. Wait until 2020 to go straight at Trump.
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Thanks. Best of all comments on this piece.
I can name this tune in 4 notes: Bernie Sanders.
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Yes the Democrats must continue to say no to the dangerous policies of the Republicans and to persist in the investigation of Russia's involvement in our election and Democracy.
However simultaneously they must come up with policies and candidates who can put this country on the right track.
Support Infrastructure investment but ensure it is paid for.
Enhance the ACA by empowering the Federal Government to negotiate with Drug companies and bring prices down to European levels.
Extend Medicare to all those who need affordable insurance and provide an alternative to Insurers. That will increase compeitition.
Support Corporate tax reform but ensure it is revenue neutral by ensuring all companies pay the lower rate.
Just a start but Democrats should demonstrate they our the Party of Yes we can
However simultaneously they must come up with policies and candidates who can put this country on the right track.
Support Infrastructure investment but ensure it is paid for.
Enhance the ACA by empowering the Federal Government to negotiate with Drug companies and bring prices down to European levels.
Extend Medicare to all those who need affordable insurance and provide an alternative to Insurers. That will increase compeitition.
Support Corporate tax reform but ensure it is revenue neutral by ensuring all companies pay the lower rate.
Just a start but Democrats should demonstrate they our the Party of Yes we can
Will fellow Dems show up in numbers to vote out the Republican majority in 2018? Likely "No", as well, if past is prologue.
If the opposition to this Cowardly New World is going to restore all of America's ideals it will take more than hysterical tweeting, selfies at a few social gatherings (marches) and likes on Facebook. Although abhorrent of pre-internet history, younger Americans need to read and understand It in order to find out how difficult it actually was to mobilize the civil rights and anti-war activities that actualized change in the 50's, '60's and '70's. It takes planning, stamina and integrity more than noise and distraction.
There is a need to recognize that hatred, bile and violence are always louder, more startling and counter-productive than thoughtful and principled opposition (A concept that the students of Middlebury College (for example) failed to grasp, acting as those at the worst of Trump's rallies.
Those here who call for leadership, a third party and such, have already relinquished their own responsibilities to transform. They are complicit in the Democratic Party's failure. If 60% of each district's democrat electorate showed up at the polls in 2018 and voted for their democrat, the Congress would be restored to a majority democrat body. True citizenship is exercised, not a birthright.
If the opposition to this Cowardly New World is going to restore all of America's ideals it will take more than hysterical tweeting, selfies at a few social gatherings (marches) and likes on Facebook. Although abhorrent of pre-internet history, younger Americans need to read and understand It in order to find out how difficult it actually was to mobilize the civil rights and anti-war activities that actualized change in the 50's, '60's and '70's. It takes planning, stamina and integrity more than noise and distraction.
There is a need to recognize that hatred, bile and violence are always louder, more startling and counter-productive than thoughtful and principled opposition (A concept that the students of Middlebury College (for example) failed to grasp, acting as those at the worst of Trump's rallies.
Those here who call for leadership, a third party and such, have already relinquished their own responsibilities to transform. They are complicit in the Democratic Party's failure. If 60% of each district's democrat electorate showed up at the polls in 2018 and voted for their democrat, the Congress would be restored to a majority democrat body. True citizenship is exercised, not a birthright.
The crowds and states that supported Sanders, and Trump's win, should tell Dem leadership that voters are looking for something new.
The somewhat clueless overconfidence of Clinton, her media lap dogs, and the DNC tells you where at least some of the problem lies.
And a support base that treats Clinton like a political version of Elvis shows how hard it will be to make any significant changes in platform or candidates.
That's what's needed. And as long as Clinton is hanging around like Marley's ghost posting videos advocating resistance, the base will stay depressed and we'll get nowhere.
The somewhat clueless overconfidence of Clinton, her media lap dogs, and the DNC tells you where at least some of the problem lies.
And a support base that treats Clinton like a political version of Elvis shows how hard it will be to make any significant changes in platform or candidates.
That's what's needed. And as long as Clinton is hanging around like Marley's ghost posting videos advocating resistance, the base will stay depressed and we'll get nowhere.
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The establishment democrats STILL cling to the notion of Hillary Clinton receiving 3 million more votes than Trump(despite the fact the majority of those votes originated from ONE state, California) and Bernie Sanders would have never defeated Trump, that despite ALL the polls that unanimously indicated he would, unlike Clinton, easily have done so.
After all that has happened, when a party STILL refuses to accept and deal what
has happened in front of them, perhaps it is time to put it "out of its misery".
After all that has happened, when a party STILL refuses to accept and deal what
has happened in front of them, perhaps it is time to put it "out of its misery".
Almost 3 million more voters were looking for Hillary not Trump.
Yes, the deplorables were looking for someone far more overtly racist and misogynist and they got him.
But most voters were not. And sad news for you. Most voters were not looking for Bernie either, and I say that despite my having voted for him in the primary because I don't live in fantasy land.
I hope Bernie continues to lead as he has, but saying Hillary should just go into some hole and hide after she decisively won the popular vote is ridiculous.
Yes, the deplorables were looking for someone far more overtly racist and misogynist and they got him.
But most voters were not. And sad news for you. Most voters were not looking for Bernie either, and I say that despite my having voted for him in the primary because I don't live in fantasy land.
I hope Bernie continues to lead as he has, but saying Hillary should just go into some hole and hide after she decisively won the popular vote is ridiculous.
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Yup, let's form a circular firing squad and blame victims for the failure to overcome endless Republican selfishness and trickle-down mythology. Let's blame Democrats for the meeting on Inauguration day 2009, when Republicans decided to hunker down.
Let's blame Obama for doing what he could under sometimes difficult circumstances, and listening to everyone.
We have a real problem here, and unicorns are not going to fix it. We need everyone, pragmatists who know how to get stuff done and idealists who think we can do better.
What we don't need is to go on fighting with and blaming each other.
There are real enemies in the house.
Let's blame Obama for doing what he could under sometimes difficult circumstances, and listening to everyone.
We have a real problem here, and unicorns are not going to fix it. We need everyone, pragmatists who know how to get stuff done and idealists who think we can do better.
What we don't need is to go on fighting with and blaming each other.
There are real enemies in the house.
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Agree!
One could go on and on about what Republicans have done that Democrats should not be blamed for, but two more to think about:
Grover Norquest, and people who forget small tax breaks are accompanied by much bigger ones for the superrich, and want their services for free: don't let government mess with my Medicare/Medicaid! (or roads, disaster relief, police, public schools, etc.)
The Koch billionaire network and other wealthy interest peddlers, busy with voter suppression and private prisons and gerrymandering.
Remember, big fossil lobbying gets a return of over 100:1 in direct and indirect benefits. Nice work if you can get it!
Grover Norquest, and people who forget small tax breaks are accompanied by much bigger ones for the superrich, and want their services for free: don't let government mess with my Medicare/Medicaid! (or roads, disaster relief, police, public schools, etc.)
The Koch billionaire network and other wealthy interest peddlers, busy with voter suppression and private prisons and gerrymandering.
Remember, big fossil lobbying gets a return of over 100:1 in direct and indirect benefits. Nice work if you can get it!
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Unless Dems get their house in order, as it was under Obama, even winning bigly will not get them anywhere. You can't go anywhere if you don't choose where. Are we about transgender bathrooms and illegal immigrants? Are we about a raise in the minimum wage and health insurance? Are we about good jobs at good pay and single payer? We need that circular firing squad to do its thing and those left standing to get going.
We have a President who has identified his enemies: Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, the Judiciary, the Rule of Law, Truth, and Science and has identified his friends: first and foremost: his own financial interests, then, his business partners and affiliates, Russia, Authoritarian Dictators, Big Oil and Gas, Big Pharma, Bankers, and Billionaires.
We are fast approaching the point where having a Sanders' movement, a progressive wing or even a Democratic Party or Republican Party is possible. The choice will be between authoritarianism and the Constitution. Party schisms are a luxury we can't afford.
Given its minority status in Congress, Democrats have little choice but to be the party of principled opposition with regard to legislation. Support legislation, like infrastructure spending, that can be done for the greater benefit of all rather than just crumbs.
But with regard to protecting the Constitution and liberty, the Democrats in Congress need to be proactive. Investigate, educate and expose the already open corruption and the blatant attempt at dismantling our freedom. Demonstrate every day the foundational values of this country. Show that there is a better way of addressing the needs of the 99% than by trading democracy for the meager hope of economic security.
And help guide those outside the halls of Congress who share the foundational values.
We are fast approaching the point where having a Sanders' movement, a progressive wing or even a Democratic Party or Republican Party is possible. The choice will be between authoritarianism and the Constitution. Party schisms are a luxury we can't afford.
Given its minority status in Congress, Democrats have little choice but to be the party of principled opposition with regard to legislation. Support legislation, like infrastructure spending, that can be done for the greater benefit of all rather than just crumbs.
But with regard to protecting the Constitution and liberty, the Democrats in Congress need to be proactive. Investigate, educate and expose the already open corruption and the blatant attempt at dismantling our freedom. Demonstrate every day the foundational values of this country. Show that there is a better way of addressing the needs of the 99% than by trading democracy for the meager hope of economic security.
And help guide those outside the halls of Congress who share the foundational values.
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That was some night, wasn't it? Contrary to popular belief, Hillary bit the dust, rather ignominiously, much to the chagrin of many celebrated liberals. Rust belt states, apparently, were taken for granted. The small business owners, with proverbial intolerance to a Clinton presidency, seemed to prefer a lesser of the 2 disliked - Trump - in their picks.
Hillary's follies of ignoring the upper mid-west, among other things, served as her drubbing. Her citadel there showed signs of cracks, finally crumbling to a total rubble. What a pity! And now, almost the whole GOP is tending towards becoming a gang of scatterbrains. Their hare-brained approach, compulsively, to assail the ACA, with a vengeance, can be a testimony.
Trump has won, and deal with it folks, willy nilly! Now, enjoy his leadership with all that pomp pageantry. His support staff? Nothing but par excellence. Any major mishaps, in the offing? Not yet. Media reporters? Tough luck. He ain't gonna budge an inch towards conviviality. No way and nohow.
Hillary's follies of ignoring the upper mid-west, among other things, served as her drubbing. Her citadel there showed signs of cracks, finally crumbling to a total rubble. What a pity! And now, almost the whole GOP is tending towards becoming a gang of scatterbrains. Their hare-brained approach, compulsively, to assail the ACA, with a vengeance, can be a testimony.
Trump has won, and deal with it folks, willy nilly! Now, enjoy his leadership with all that pomp pageantry. His support staff? Nothing but par excellence. Any major mishaps, in the offing? Not yet. Media reporters? Tough luck. He ain't gonna budge an inch towards conviviality. No way and nohow.
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You're fine with the sixth extinction, accelerating day by day? Time to wake up. This is life itself, for billions of people. This is trashing our planet.
Deal with it?!!! No way I'm "dealing" with death, the criminalization of poverty, the looting of our democracy, voter suppression, and the whole sorry basked of deplorable plans.
Now Trump is firing the referees. He's already vacated diplomacy.
This will not end well.
Deal with it?!!! No way I'm "dealing" with death, the criminalization of poverty, the looting of our democracy, voter suppression, and the whole sorry basked of deplorable plans.
Now Trump is firing the referees. He's already vacated diplomacy.
This will not end well.
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Yes. But what democrats are saying No to is the dismantling of our environmental protections, of dismantling protections and equal rights for women, gays, minorities. They are saying No to more tax cuts for the wealthiest among us (the same group of people who are the ONLY ones to have prospered the past 30 years). They are saying NO to taking from the poor and middle class to benefit the rich.
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The Democratic Party's new role as a protest party has all but assured Trump's reelection in 2020. Now there is a boogeyman to conveniently blame.
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So, Aleister, do you believe that Trump will be able to win in 2020 by capturing just enough counties in just enough states to win in the Electoral College again, given that he may only get 40% of the vote? Do you think that his popularity will actually increase, given that White older voters will be decreasing as a percentage of the population over the next four years? Will Americans be willing to vote for a 75-year old man if they have a much younger alternative? And, do you think that the Russians will muster the same influence in 2020 that they did in 2016?
Protest and obstruction worked well for the GOP in 2016... why shouldn't it work for the Dems?
Protest and obstruction worked well for the GOP in 2016... why shouldn't it work for the Dems?
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Are you joking? Have you taken a good look at your hero? You'll be lucky if he lasts a year. He is obviously exhausted; has probably never worked as hard before and looks angry and miserable. He loved running but most likely never expected to win. I think, in his heart, he'd love to be back living his old life in New York City.
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This may back fire on the GOP. The strategy should be to support Trump's agenda where it benefits the greater sum of your supporters and object when it does not. We need bipartisan efforts to help move the country forward. The more politics is placed before country, the more opportunities exist for a moderate outsider to succeed. Dig slow democrats, you have four years.
Sincerely, an Independent voter.
Sincerely, an Independent voter.
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To Sen. Chris Murphy (CT) (“You do start to question whether you know the country as well as you thought”) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (VT) ("You know, you've got to stand for something"), and ALL Democratic leaders:
I BEG you if you haven't already to see the incredible and amazing film, "I Am Not Your Negro" featuring the visionary words of James Baldwin some 30 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUYdgIyaPM
"If you think I'm a n___, you need to find out why. Because the future of the country depends on that."
Then ask yourselves, are we truly "indivisible"? And ask yourselves, isn't this THE cause for Democrats to fight for--first, last, always? Because by not doing so we are all degraded as Democrats, as Americans, and as human beings.
Without this as our cause, all talk about Lady Liberty is just window-dressing and a bunch of phony-baloney.
And REFUSE to be labeled "identity" politicians. This is about respect and equal treatment of fellow human beings.
I BEG you if you haven't already to see the incredible and amazing film, "I Am Not Your Negro" featuring the visionary words of James Baldwin some 30 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUYdgIyaPM
"If you think I'm a n___, you need to find out why. Because the future of the country depends on that."
Then ask yourselves, are we truly "indivisible"? And ask yourselves, isn't this THE cause for Democrats to fight for--first, last, always? Because by not doing so we are all degraded as Democrats, as Americans, and as human beings.
Without this as our cause, all talk about Lady Liberty is just window-dressing and a bunch of phony-baloney.
And REFUSE to be labeled "identity" politicians. This is about respect and equal treatment of fellow human beings.
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The "identity politics" of segregation by race makes Democrats an inherently racist party
You can't end racism by continuing to support policies and programs which define people not by the content of their individual character but by the amount of melanin in their skin.
It was wrong in 1860
It was wrong in 1960
and it is still wrong in 2017.
You can't end racism by continuing to support policies and programs which define people not by the content of their individual character but by the amount of melanin in their skin.
It was wrong in 1860
It was wrong in 1960
and it is still wrong in 2017.
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After 66 years i thought we were headed in the right direction despite political loggerheads. The transgression that has occurred with this Presidential election has sapped me of much hope but i still have a little fight left in me and that is enough to press on regardless for my grandchildren, my country, and our planet!
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Yeah, ok. You die on that hill alone. Reducing wealth inequality, reducing the enslavement of most of the US citizenry to corporations, I will die on that hill. More identity politics, nope; you'll never get an electoral college majority on that.
I agree with the readers who yearn for a functioning government - and who realize that neither party can now provide that. D's and R's are all about a zero sum game of winning and losing, which requires catering to the extremes. Those of us who want honest and respectful debate and practical governance need to start looking towards a third party - one that can bridge this abyss of bilateral hubris and callous disregard for the country as a whole.
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It is frightening and sad what is happening. The abdication, logistical ineptitude and cowardice of the democratic party is a disgrace and a disappointment beyond all telling. Where are our warriors when we need them? They are dead and gone! Here we are on the verge of a fascist state, the end of our wonderful democracy and it just merits a column on the back pages.
The Times should also take some responsibility for promoting and empowering the forces who will eventually destroy us (in the name of good newspaper sales?). Shame, Shame on all of you (and all of us!) for not standing up for the principles that make us who we are (or rather who we were!).
I guess, for all of it, we have never gotten that far from the concept of slavery as a valid institution, the replacement or substitution of people for the accumulation of wealth.
The Times should also take some responsibility for promoting and empowering the forces who will eventually destroy us (in the name of good newspaper sales?). Shame, Shame on all of you (and all of us!) for not standing up for the principles that make us who we are (or rather who we were!).
I guess, for all of it, we have never gotten that far from the concept of slavery as a valid institution, the replacement or substitution of people for the accumulation of wealth.
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Tax cuts for the greedy from healthcare cuts to the needy - vote NO!
Subverting US democracy - vote NO!
The US infiltrated by a foreign adversarial power (Russia) - Vote NO!
Defund public education to have religious schoolsl with vouchers - Vote NO!
Unlike Republicans during the Obama years, the Democrats' stance actually makes sense.
Subverting US democracy - vote NO!
The US infiltrated by a foreign adversarial power (Russia) - Vote NO!
Defund public education to have religious schoolsl with vouchers - Vote NO!
Unlike Republicans during the Obama years, the Democrats' stance actually makes sense.
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Love others, treat others the way you would want to be treated. We teach this to our kids and grandkids. How else can we respond to Trump and his take care of your own mentality? We have no choice but to oppose such utter disregard for our planet, American policy & history, but, most of all, for his utter contempt for our fellow citizens. We are NOT only fighting against Trump, but ALL the forces of evil that he unleashes with any support of his policies, including you Republican Congress that would normalize his contempt. Meghan McCain, you bet Obama is going to be bitter, as the majority of Americans are, when the forces of darkness threaten to undo the good government can do. Fortunately, God honors those who honor him, by the way they treat others. With God with us, who can be against us? Not Russia, nor racists, nor selfish greed, nor all the forces of a billionaire cabinet and Republican Congress can deter the righteousness of our cause. Reid and Warren are right, you can't compromise with evil.
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We Americans love our cartoons and we like our characters slippery and clueless. Wile E. Coyote, Bugs Bunny, Fred Flintstone, Top Cat.
Chuck Schumer and Donald Trump both fit right in with this bunch. It would be difficult for an animator to make these two any more cartoonish than they are in real life.
I once watched Schumer march in the Chinese New Years parade in the packed streets of Chinatown. If he wore a Guy Fawkes (Anonymous) mask and shaved the mustache you wouldn't have known the difference.
We are in that magic instant where the Coyote has run off the cliff but is suspended momentarily because it hasn't yet occurred to him to look down.
Chuck Schumer and Donald Trump both fit right in with this bunch. It would be difficult for an animator to make these two any more cartoonish than they are in real life.
I once watched Schumer march in the Chinese New Years parade in the packed streets of Chinatown. If he wore a Guy Fawkes (Anonymous) mask and shaved the mustache you wouldn't have known the difference.
We are in that magic instant where the Coyote has run off the cliff but is suspended momentarily because it hasn't yet occurred to him to look down.
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I hope the Democratic Party can not only look at where they are in terms of how they deal with the GOP moving forward, but also look within their own electorate to gain a better understanding of the citizens that identify with Democratic values. This past election was a blown opportunity, to the say the least. I'm a registered Democrat but supported Bernie in the primaries. I just felt like his message was much more clearly defined than HRC's. And he came in with a progressive, populist bent that would have left Trump in the dust. But the DNC had blinders on, and was so hellbent on nominating HRC, that it began to feel like the entire process was disingenuous. And the problem with that is, you begin to breed cynicism within your own party. All you have to do is take a look at how fractured the GOP is today. I pray my party does not go down that road.
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I was particularly amused at how Hillary and all the news outlets were disturbed at any suggestion that the electoral process could be hacked up until the Trump's election when suddenly the whole election was hacked.
Hence the "party of no" was a problem while a democrat was president while "the party of no" was a noble endeavor once a republican was elected.
Hence the "party of no" was a problem while a democrat was president while "the party of no" was a noble endeavor once a republican was elected.
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No, Doug. The party of No was a problem under a democrat, because they voted no simply for the sake of voting no. They pledged from the moment Obama took office that they would block him at every turn. Heck, the ACA was essentially a carbon copy of the republican's initial plan, yet they voted no.
Now, we have republicans in office who are stripping away rights for women, gays. Republicans who are stripping away protections for our environment in order to make a buck. Republicans who are looking to give more tax breaks to the people who need it least, while making life more difficult for those who need it most. Republicans who think it's fine for insurance companies to deny a recovering cancer patient coverage because, well: cash is king.
Sometimes there is a good reason to say no.
Now, we have republicans in office who are stripping away rights for women, gays. Republicans who are stripping away protections for our environment in order to make a buck. Republicans who are looking to give more tax breaks to the people who need it least, while making life more difficult for those who need it most. Republicans who think it's fine for insurance companies to deny a recovering cancer patient coverage because, well: cash is king.
Sometimes there is a good reason to say no.
Democrats won the popular vote, that tells me we have a winning formula, why even think about changing. All we need to do it take the same message to the "rust belt" states and we will probably win next time around.
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Che Guevara could have won California and New York. Just keep thinking that message resonates in the rust belt, the GOP is counting on it.
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History is littered with the reputations of generals who prepared assiduously to fight the previous war.
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How are you planning moving California to Michigan, transporting half of CA population that isn't American? Legalizing pot? Converting Detroit into a sanctuary city? I'm waiting for your solutions about "expanding the message to rust belt states..."
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No is one thing. Reversal is another. I fear that we are entering an era of ping pong politics. Every new administration and Congress will be put in place merely to undo the accomplishments of the previous. As the pendulum swings...
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Too bad black Dem voters were not more in a "protest mood" during the primaries. If they had been, Bernie, who won white Dems, would have been nominated easily, would have won the Rust Belt easily, and would be the greatest reform president since FDR. If only.
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Can we just drop the alternative facts already.
Bernie lost conclusively to Hillary. It was not even close to a squeaker.
Bernie would never had a chance in the rust belt. Why can't people open their eyes. He won almost no primaries, mostly caucuses. In the one state there was both a caucus and a primary he lost the primary.
I voted Bernie in the primary, knowing he did not have a chance in PA, because I wanted to send a message to Hillary that a great deal of what Bernie had to say resonated with me.
A man who can not even win the nomination is not going to win the country, no matter how fired up his supporters were.
All those deplorable Trump voters who supposedly would have voted for Bernie -- they had plenty of opportunity. They did not want a decent man-- they wanted the bullying racist misogynist xenophobic treasonous lying con man they voted for. Everyone of them could have changed registration in closed primary states or voted in open primaries and voted for Bernie in the primaries if they had wanted Bernie. Trump did not hide what he was -- it was there front and center. Decades in the public eye had shown him to be exactly the miserable ignorant man running for president. The deplorables did not want Bernie - they wanted billionaire bankrupt Trump and they are mostly absolutely delighted with him wrecking the country and hurting people right and left.
Hillary won the popular vote. Bernie would not have done even that.
Bernie lost conclusively to Hillary. It was not even close to a squeaker.
Bernie would never had a chance in the rust belt. Why can't people open their eyes. He won almost no primaries, mostly caucuses. In the one state there was both a caucus and a primary he lost the primary.
I voted Bernie in the primary, knowing he did not have a chance in PA, because I wanted to send a message to Hillary that a great deal of what Bernie had to say resonated with me.
A man who can not even win the nomination is not going to win the country, no matter how fired up his supporters were.
All those deplorable Trump voters who supposedly would have voted for Bernie -- they had plenty of opportunity. They did not want a decent man-- they wanted the bullying racist misogynist xenophobic treasonous lying con man they voted for. Everyone of them could have changed registration in closed primary states or voted in open primaries and voted for Bernie in the primaries if they had wanted Bernie. Trump did not hide what he was -- it was there front and center. Decades in the public eye had shown him to be exactly the miserable ignorant man running for president. The deplorables did not want Bernie - they wanted billionaire bankrupt Trump and they are mostly absolutely delighted with him wrecking the country and hurting people right and left.
Hillary won the popular vote. Bernie would not have done even that.
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The Democrats need to learn how to frame the issues (like the Republicans did) and to stop talking down to people. They also need to put Hillary out to pasture and look for new blood. Until they actually start listening to people outside of the urban centers, they will continue to founder. You have to understand the problems before you can create a plan to fix them.
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I'm sorry but this is contradictory. Democrats should indeed frame the issues but that means *not listening* to the hate talk coming out of Trumpland. Opportunism doesn't work.
The people that are voting for Trump -- the only way you can talk to them is by talking down to them because that is the space they inhabit.
The rest get it.
The rest get it.
The Democrats have been a party of wusses for decades. They need to "fight dirty" like the GOP has. Too bad it's too late because now we have an idiot in the Oval Office.
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Virtus in medio posita est et utrimque reducta. "Virtue is in the middle, equidistant from both sides." Horace.
Maybe our two greatest presidents were Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt. I would contend--both these men (wittingly or not) staked out the middle ground and held it. They held it against angry assailants from the LEFT--"You aren't moving fast enough--you're too cautious--c'mon, pick it it some, fella!" They held it against angry assailants from the RIGHT--"You gotta be kidding! No way, Jose! You're threatening, undermining the very fabric of the Republic!"
And in God's mercy we got through it. Somehow-don't ask me how!--we got through the Civil War. We got through the Great Depression. Cured (they say) by the third big thing we got through--World War II. My goodness! the calamities we got through. Dispute it who will, God has been good to these United States.
WHERE IS THE MIDDLE GROUND? Where are the people who can reason--argue--compromise? Principled men and women, yes--but not obstinate men and women? These Democrats (some of them)--they're just like their Republican adversaries. "No! No! No!" How can such people lead our country? Guide our country? SAVE our country? God help us all!
Maybe our two greatest presidents were Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt. I would contend--both these men (wittingly or not) staked out the middle ground and held it. They held it against angry assailants from the LEFT--"You aren't moving fast enough--you're too cautious--c'mon, pick it it some, fella!" They held it against angry assailants from the RIGHT--"You gotta be kidding! No way, Jose! You're threatening, undermining the very fabric of the Republic!"
And in God's mercy we got through it. Somehow-don't ask me how!--we got through the Civil War. We got through the Great Depression. Cured (they say) by the third big thing we got through--World War II. My goodness! the calamities we got through. Dispute it who will, God has been good to these United States.
WHERE IS THE MIDDLE GROUND? Where are the people who can reason--argue--compromise? Principled men and women, yes--but not obstinate men and women? These Democrats (some of them)--they're just like their Republican adversaries. "No! No! No!" How can such people lead our country? Guide our country? SAVE our country? God help us all!
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Okay, the Republicans said "NO" for 8 years with Obama and I don't ever recall a headline like this above the fold. Less than two months with a Trump and the Dems have said said "NO" to nothing because there is nothing to say yes or no to and we get this headline?
Is there any wonder the people who don't vote, but also too many who do think there is NO difference between the parties?
This is THE main argument I hear from people who claim they don't like Trump, but don't seem very worried. They still seem to think or want to believe we have a functioning democracy when we do not.
NYT your are not helping. In the last two weeks your reporting and editorial page seem to be at distinct odds with each other. Which is it? The Trump administration is a-ok or a menace?
And no one month of a presidency does NOT lead to an improved economy. Nothing moves that quickly.
This is also why many believe you are reporting fake news.
Is there any wonder the people who don't vote, but also too many who do think there is NO difference between the parties?
This is THE main argument I hear from people who claim they don't like Trump, but don't seem very worried. They still seem to think or want to believe we have a functioning democracy when we do not.
NYT your are not helping. In the last two weeks your reporting and editorial page seem to be at distinct odds with each other. Which is it? The Trump administration is a-ok or a menace?
And no one month of a presidency does NOT lead to an improved economy. Nothing moves that quickly.
This is also why many believe you are reporting fake news.
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It is the death of the New Deal and political correctness, that these throwbacks can't understand, but we have moved way past all that. Screech all you want, but you won't we heard and that is fine with me. Say bye now!
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The American People tend to have this belief that, whichever party wins, it's be "business as usual", but with a few modifications. But, with Donald Trump. nothing is "Usual". And now, we're paying for it.
There's no use in trying to figure what could have happened, or what did happen. Once its done, its don e. Ands, we as a Nation--bearing the brunt all together--must do with it.
We can only stand in awe of those in Congress who can, and will, stand up to this ignorant narcissist. Likewise, we must continue to patronize the very media that but monitor his every idiotic word, and ideologic idea--pointing out what he does right, and if, and when, he actually does something sane.
In essence: Give the Devil His Due!
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
There's no use in trying to figure what could have happened, or what did happen. Once its done, its don e. Ands, we as a Nation--bearing the brunt all together--must do with it.
We can only stand in awe of those in Congress who can, and will, stand up to this ignorant narcissist. Likewise, we must continue to patronize the very media that but monitor his every idiotic word, and ideologic idea--pointing out what he does right, and if, and when, he actually does something sane.
In essence: Give the Devil His Due!
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
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This is what happens when you end up with, in effect, a two-party state – Americans, living in ‘the greatest democracy on Earth’, end up with marginally more choice than North Koreans at the ballot box.
Awful as she was as a candidate, Mrs Clinton secured more precious votes from The People than that buffoon Trump – yet the weird electoral college system returned that dangerous, pig-ignorant eejit, as we Irish say. (And thus ushering in all of the rogues and parasites that he’s swept into power, too, from the ridiculous Ben Carson to the quietly dangerous Christian fundamentalist vice-president, who appears to be biding his time.)
Add in the stranglehold over meaningful politics that Big Business and Corporate Donors have over American politics, via the fundamentally corrupt lobbying/donor system – which is why the likes of the infamous Koch Brothers control what America does much more than anything as irrelevant as The People – and the sight of the Democrats finally doing something, anything that betrays a flicker of emotion is too little, too late.
As long as Americans just have an A or B choice at the ballot box – instead of a list that runs to several other letters, including meaningful Left, Far Left and Centrist choices, instead of just the wishy-washy Democrats and the lunatic, heartless Republicans – they’re doomed to continue watching divisions widen, the poor get poorer, and the notion of a united people become ever more consigned to the history books.
Doomed.
Awful as she was as a candidate, Mrs Clinton secured more precious votes from The People than that buffoon Trump – yet the weird electoral college system returned that dangerous, pig-ignorant eejit, as we Irish say. (And thus ushering in all of the rogues and parasites that he’s swept into power, too, from the ridiculous Ben Carson to the quietly dangerous Christian fundamentalist vice-president, who appears to be biding his time.)
Add in the stranglehold over meaningful politics that Big Business and Corporate Donors have over American politics, via the fundamentally corrupt lobbying/donor system – which is why the likes of the infamous Koch Brothers control what America does much more than anything as irrelevant as The People – and the sight of the Democrats finally doing something, anything that betrays a flicker of emotion is too little, too late.
As long as Americans just have an A or B choice at the ballot box – instead of a list that runs to several other letters, including meaningful Left, Far Left and Centrist choices, instead of just the wishy-washy Democrats and the lunatic, heartless Republicans – they’re doomed to continue watching divisions widen, the poor get poorer, and the notion of a united people become ever more consigned to the history books.
Doomed.
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Perception, in politics, is reality, and the perception is a party which apparently harbors the expectation it should keep doing what it's been doing and the results will be different, is collectively delusional. Conservatives, that is, the majority of Americans regardless of party affiliation, don't give a tinker's damn about bathroom choice, what however they do care about is a job creating trade deal which sends one blue collar manufacturing job to the Pacific Rim in exchange for two minimum wage service jobs. Progressive speak for net job creation. Remember, it's the perception which matters.
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And not a word about the elephant in the room, the corruption in the Democrat machine. If you lie down long enough, the elephant will step on your head.
All this talk about opposition. Trump's opposition is Republican. This piece was like reading about theologians discussing Lord of the Rings. Heavy but without substance.
All this talk about opposition. Trump's opposition is Republican. This piece was like reading about theologians discussing Lord of the Rings. Heavy but without substance.
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Well when saying, "No" to this administration's and this ruling party's hateful agenda, that's the proper thing to do.
NO you can't strip seniors and the poor of their healthcare!
NO you can't insult our dearest allies!
NO you cannot have staff and yourself (Trump) continually lie to congress!
NO you cannot conspire with Russia to throw the US Elections!
NO you can't grab women whenever and wherever you want!
NO you cannot falsely accuse the former president of crimes and not pay for it!
And especially NO, you cannot get away with not showing your tax returns you pathetic coward!
NO you can't strip seniors and the poor of their healthcare!
NO you can't insult our dearest allies!
NO you cannot have staff and yourself (Trump) continually lie to congress!
NO you cannot conspire with Russia to throw the US Elections!
NO you can't grab women whenever and wherever you want!
NO you cannot falsely accuse the former president of crimes and not pay for it!
And especially NO, you cannot get away with not showing your tax returns you pathetic coward!
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The only chance the Democrats have to unseat, oust, Trump during the Mid-Term elections is if Michelle Robinson Obama or her husband, Barack Hussein Obama run for the Presidency.
Democrats are indeed the "Party of NO"
NO new ideas
NO plan for the future
NO way to stop the rising tide of violent Liberal fascism within their ranks that uses assault, arson, vandalism, and mayhem to silence all dissent.
NO answer for those who ask why Democrats support Criminal Illegal aliens before American citizens.
NO way any more to justify using the inherent racism of "identity politics" as the way to end racism.
NO "bench" of young up-n-coming charismatic Democrats to appeal to America at large
NO explanation for justifying the vicious attacks on Republicans over transgender bathroom laws while blocking President Trump's travel ban for people from nations that execute LGBTQ
NO rationale for calling the GOP science deniers, while denying the science that shows, without any doubt, that fetuses are fully formed human beings by 20 weeks.
Yup, the Democrats are definitely the "party of NO!"
NO new ideas
NO plan for the future
NO way to stop the rising tide of violent Liberal fascism within their ranks that uses assault, arson, vandalism, and mayhem to silence all dissent.
NO answer for those who ask why Democrats support Criminal Illegal aliens before American citizens.
NO way any more to justify using the inherent racism of "identity politics" as the way to end racism.
NO "bench" of young up-n-coming charismatic Democrats to appeal to America at large
NO explanation for justifying the vicious attacks on Republicans over transgender bathroom laws while blocking President Trump's travel ban for people from nations that execute LGBTQ
NO rationale for calling the GOP science deniers, while denying the science that shows, without any doubt, that fetuses are fully formed human beings by 20 weeks.
Yup, the Democrats are definitely the "party of NO!"
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"Liberal Fascism"? If ever there was a term which defines Orwell's Doublespeak it's got to be that down the hole misdirection. I noticed CPAC had also adopted the laughable notion that the far right wing/alt right it now embraces can disentangle itself from the pejorative, to which it is most closely associated, by clever word smithing. I suppose Marxism is now right wing?
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TOTAL. UNRELENTING. RESISTANCE. Keep growing that spine, Democrats. No need for meetings to figure out a vision: just listen to your base, which has woken up from a long sleep.
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Republicans having acted badly in the past has created bad precedence. Bad precedence builds up bad blood in the constituents of the party not in power who in turn demand equally bad behavior from their party when their time comes. In 2010 the Democrats had the Presidency and both wings of Congress, it was expected that the Republican minority would bargain from their weaker position with Democrats on President Obama's signature bill and knock out the portions of Obamacare that they most disliked. Instead Chuck Grassley who led the Republicans in a bipartisan gang of eight designed for bi-partisan cooperation responded that his job was not to improve the bill but to make sure it is killed, forcing Democrats to pass the bill using a version of the "Congressional nuclear option".
During the Clinton Presidency when the economy was in full bloom, and an obvious threat in the upcoming election Republicans embarked on an attack on the President by investigative committee. Months and Millions of dollars later, after Congress ground to a halt, what resulted was the most expensive blowjob in history, and the presidency. This opening the door for a similar waste of time and resources against Hillary Clinton, also for the presidency.
And this not only becomes expected behavior, but necessary behavior as candidates who do not accede, is "primaried out". Bad behavior entrenches both parties most extreme members, and the modest majority loses their government to stalemate.
During the Clinton Presidency when the economy was in full bloom, and an obvious threat in the upcoming election Republicans embarked on an attack on the President by investigative committee. Months and Millions of dollars later, after Congress ground to a halt, what resulted was the most expensive blowjob in history, and the presidency. This opening the door for a similar waste of time and resources against Hillary Clinton, also for the presidency.
And this not only becomes expected behavior, but necessary behavior as candidates who do not accede, is "primaried out". Bad behavior entrenches both parties most extreme members, and the modest majority loses their government to stalemate.
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Democrats are the party of Disappointment. Whenever they get the chance to govern they go 'round in fuzzy circles. Trump and a disciplined minority party in terms of registration is putting on a display as to how to govern. Let's hope lessons are learned in the Democrat party and among the electorate that discipline counts and works. It will be at least a generation before a chance to govern comes back to progressives. I won't be here but for my grandchildren's sake, I hope they don't blow the chance again.
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Man, this is a meandering piece. Nice to see Chuck and Nancy are finally getting a spine. Thanks, that is, to the rank and file.
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Yes, it is to be "No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No NoNo No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No NoNo No No No No No No No NoNo No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No NoNo No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No."
Yes?
Yes?
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I often get crumbs stuck between the keys on my keyboard too. It's a real bummer.
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Elections matter. Trump won the election and Americans voted for a border wall and enforcement of our immigration laws. NO AMNESTY. The GOP should let the Democrats shut down Government if they want to and the American people will rise up against the Democrats. The Democrats lost this last election and they will lose even more in the next election if they don't vote with the American people instead of special interest groups.
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Why do people vote in droves against their self interests? Why do older people vote for a party that consistently goes against their interests? Why did Kentucky vote for a governor who pledged to undermine the ACA which gave so much relief to so many in Kentucky? Why did women vote in such large numbers to a misogynist who treated them as sex objects?
The answer unfortunately is the exploitation of fear of the "other" by the GOP and fostering of nativist (White nationalist) impulses.
What should be the Democrats response to this very powerful impulse? Enlightenment. Fortunately the millennials and the younger generation in large numbers reject these nativist impulses. The Democrats should exploit the support among millennials so that it mushrooms to the extent that people become ashamed to fall prey to these white nationalist impulses. We should remember that not long ago it was unthinkable to abolish slavery which was thought to be a great economic model.
Movements of Enlightenment can and will grow with unified messaging from the Democrats and soon become fashionable to adopt.
The arc of history bends ever so slowly towards progressive values.
This country is I believe a center-left country.
The answer unfortunately is the exploitation of fear of the "other" by the GOP and fostering of nativist (White nationalist) impulses.
What should be the Democrats response to this very powerful impulse? Enlightenment. Fortunately the millennials and the younger generation in large numbers reject these nativist impulses. The Democrats should exploit the support among millennials so that it mushrooms to the extent that people become ashamed to fall prey to these white nationalist impulses. We should remember that not long ago it was unthinkable to abolish slavery which was thought to be a great economic model.
Movements of Enlightenment can and will grow with unified messaging from the Democrats and soon become fashionable to adopt.
The arc of history bends ever so slowly towards progressive values.
This country is I believe a center-left country.
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Because literacy rates are falling drastically; young peeps live on social media--IE the twitterverse; they struggle to follow complex and long arguments and chains of thought. Even kids in college read the Sparknotes version of their books rather than the book itself. We need to craft a message that will work in an age where kids think in bursts of short sentences, and their brains are no longer tuned in to longer chains of reasoning. Or effort. One thing about Bernie Sanders: he was on social media, he had a short message and hammered it home every ten seconds.
I agree that the country is a center-left country; but it is one with a huge literacy problem. And that, plus a platform, is a challenge that Dems need to get on, fast.
I agree that the country is a center-left country; but it is one with a huge literacy problem. And that, plus a platform, is a challenge that Dems need to get on, fast.
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People vote against their own interests when they are lied to.
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Yes, new party of NO; to protect
- Real America
- American freedom
- American citizens
- Environment
- Fairness
- Truth..
I can go on..
- Real America
- American freedom
- American citizens
- Environment
- Fairness
- Truth..
I can go on..
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The NYT writes pretty while Rome burns. I am sorry but the Liberal elites are complicit in allowing the sacking of Rome.
When I heard it would be Hillary I thought - she can't win. Where are the rising stars in the Democratic party?
Instead America was trendy like the rest of the world and thought Fascism would be good to try again. All along the NYT stood silent and simply used the pretty words of the day to confuse the ignorant about the Fascists about to take power.
When I heard it would be Hillary I thought - she can't win. Where are the rising stars in the Democratic party?
Instead America was trendy like the rest of the world and thought Fascism would be good to try again. All along the NYT stood silent and simply used the pretty words of the day to confuse the ignorant about the Fascists about to take power.
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Please, Dems, do not die on the hill of illegal immigration. It's the (uber) economy, stupid. If not jobs, jobs, jobs, then what? Single payer, infrastructure, climate change and the environment - anything but illegal immigration and preserving a slave class of workers for the oligarchs!
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No ban, no wall, no to every single aspect of fake 45's agenda. The only thing good about this con artist is that he burst our liberal bubble. Now we see the utterly deplorable nature of the GOP - white supremacists, anti-women, anti-immigrant, and anti-american.
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We, the Democratic party must learn to fight, fight as if our lives depend on it, because they do. Hopefully they are learning to be defensive because there is too much at stake. The ACA will be gone and we can't afford to live with "trumpcare"! Good affordable Healthcare is what we should be marching in the streets for! We can Ill afford not too!
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The Democratic Party is vanishing. In my own home state Maryland supposedly "True Blue Maryland",we have a Republican Governor who enjoys great popularity across party lines. Why? Because he at least is authentic and had articulated a meaningful agenda in his campaign that he is now trying to implement. The Democratic Party is controlled by wealthy donors. These people have an agenda and it is harmful to the American working class. Hillary Clinton is exhibit A in that respect. When questioned about raising the minimum wage she would not commit even though working class women are the demo most effected by the current low minimum wage. She had no plan for daycare and scrambled to create one after Trump addressed the issue. She had about a billion dollars in donor money and a access to a private jet and never made it to Wisconsin.Donald Trump worked harder. Donald Trump actually listened to the voters he was courting. Donald Trump was not bought and paid for. The Democrats can make a come back. They must stop demonizing the white working class,be realistic on issues such as immigration(we cannot take in every poor person) and cut back on the identity politics. This last election should be the final warning.One more election like 2016 and the Democratic Party will go the way of the dinosaur.
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democratic party is party of no.
no clue how to get middle america back.
no clue they had wrong candidate.
no clue that schumer does not speak to the new party.
so sad.
no clue how to get middle america back.
no clue they had wrong candidate.
no clue that schumer does not speak to the new party.
so sad.
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Our current lot of Democrats aren't saying the things that the people want to hear. I do not hear them talking enough about the problems of gerrymandering, getting rid of the electoral college, universal health care, stopping wars, and implementing most of the policies that Sanders ran on. We all know that Sanders would have won the election so what is wrong with these Democrats? Get rid of them as well.
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The party of gridlock-no
The Democratic Party that legally causes the release of Mr. Trumps tax forms, would be nice.
The Party that legally challenges each and every Constitutional violation from the Trump Administration-even nicer!!!
The Democratic Party that legally causes the release of Mr. Trumps tax forms, would be nice.
The Party that legally challenges each and every Constitutional violation from the Trump Administration-even nicer!!!
It seems that in America today it's become you can fool most of the people most of the time. Enough poor and middle class people have been successfully conned into voting for politicians whose main objective is to make the rich much richer by siphoning money from the lower classes. They have tricked a part of our population into hating all immigrants and resenting the poor and people who honestly need decent healthcare. Now there is nothing to stop them from achieving their goal.
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What goes around comes around. Trump's behavior is both ugly and profoundly immature, but rather than take the high ground, as Michelle said, the Democrats are moving in the same direction. The next time a Democrat is elected president, he/she can expect the Republicans really to pull out all the stops to undermine that administration--worse than what they did to Obama. The precedent is being set by both parties for an ongoing descent into truly ugly politics.
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Democrats have been lazy for years, the DNC toothless, Obama holed up with the policy wonks and staying out of the trenches. And it shows across the country. We need to take back our statehouses! We need to have a strong showing in the midterms. And we don't need any more Schumer picks like Manchin and Heidikamp -- we want bare knuckle progressives.
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That will be the basis for a return to power. Trump's antics surprise a lot of his voters, but shouldn't. What will get them to stop in think is when they lose medical care under "Trump Care". The GOP will pay for its destruction of our safety net, cleaner environment and continuing to represent the 1% only. Much pain, sadly, will occur before any change in government happens.
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The Democratic Party has yet to come to terms with the depth of its defeat across the board. Instead of rehiring geriatric leaders such as Pelosi and Schumer and reaffirming Clintonistas in charge of the DNC Democrats need a transformation that can broaden the party and win back the white working class in blue-collar, rural and service industries. Moving left in coalition with Bernie's and Warren's progressives won't be enough as they are perceived as coastal elitists. While the DCCC fiddles with strategies to contest Republican suburbs losses in the rest of America will continue to grow.
The effectiveness of identity politics has reached its end. It's time for Democrats to focus more on becoming the real majority nation-wide than resistance, uniting the middle class, working class and poor with the well educated against the Republican rich, corporate cronyists and the willfully ignorant. Resistance alone encourages ideological purity but makes broadening the party more difficult. Winning back state legislatures, governorships, the Congress and the White House will depend upon growing the party and bringing forth new leaders and new ideas, not stubbornness and hope of disasters in Republican governance.
The effectiveness of identity politics has reached its end. It's time for Democrats to focus more on becoming the real majority nation-wide than resistance, uniting the middle class, working class and poor with the well educated against the Republican rich, corporate cronyists and the willfully ignorant. Resistance alone encourages ideological purity but makes broadening the party more difficult. Winning back state legislatures, governorships, the Congress and the White House will depend upon growing the party and bringing forth new leaders and new ideas, not stubbornness and hope of disasters in Republican governance.
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Warren and Sanders should take the lead. The status quo has to change. The Democrats stand for nothing right now. Saying no will feel good but won't win future elections.
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The Democratic minority is our last bulwark against a propaganda-driven cult-of-Trump totalitarian state. Every opportunity to obstruct, resist and push credible alternatives should be pursued vigorously, or our democracy will be replaced by strong-man dictatorships for decades.
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As a centrist democrat, I'm glad the democrats have become the party of no. What became clear during the Obama years is that McConnell and his ilk have no regard for compromise or rational behavior. Their motivation is power, not principle, and they have reaped enormous dividends. If democrats don't speak on a frequency republicans can hear, we will be relegated to our own echo chamber, never to be heard. Sad as this statement may be, I remain cautiously optimistic that there is an end game here. A nation bloodied and battered, and burdened with an existential threat by its internal behavior, may then be ready for compromise and good government to return.
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Ha! The Dems look good in a suit of hypocrisy, don't they?
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I was impressed by Sherrod Brown's progressive economic message and vision. I think it's the beginning of an appealing and effective economic platform.
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So far, all I see is the end of the Democratic Party.
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You can just say "NO NO NO" so many times without practical solutions to help address and solve problems. Otherwise people turn a deaf ear, don't vote and the GOP continue down whatever path they choose.
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I wonder if calcium supplements would bolster some backbones ... ?
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No in terms of protecting citizens from a president and party that wants's to do less for their health and education while doing a massive give away to the 1 percent. Hell no !!!!
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Payback is a " bitch ". It's about time.
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Liberals need to become true progressives and back off their knee-jerk rote responses. Sanders' ideas were decades old, they were not what I consider progressive. We are at a precipice where we need an entire new level of consciousness and approach to government. We can't fix health care without coming to terms with death (not keeping people alive with no quality of life) or our egoic need to solve every problem with a pill. We will soon be facing more downward trends in jobs as more services are done by robots - what are we going to do then? We need the party to be thinking at a whole new level, and we need to start by questioning our own assumptions about everything.
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Democrats do not relish the role of dissidents. We want a government run by competents, responsible and responsive to the people, a government that acts always in our best interests and not at the behest of special interests. The current government is run by kooks, crooks, cranks, and clowns.
Dissident is not a role. It is what we are. We dissent and we dissent strongly, loudly, and boldly, in the name of the nation we love.
Dissident is not a role. It is what we are. We dissent and we dissent strongly, loudly, and boldly, in the name of the nation we love.
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Quite a gamble. Democrats have long been exemplified as better at governing than at campaigning; the exact opposite of the Republicans. So now, Trump says we need an infrastructure bill and Schumer, who previously supported an infrastructure bill, says no. Voters don't care whose bill, they want infrastructure jobs. There are two outcomes to this opposition approach for the Democrats. The first is that it as seen as purely political, and not genuine. That's bad. The second is that it satisfies the same base of echo-chamber liberals that on the eve of the election thought HRC had an 85% chance of winning. That's bad too. Maybe there's a third outcome - Trump botches things so badly that moderates run back to Democrats. But that's up to Trump. If Trump has any success - and the bar is low - the Democrats' gamble of transforming into an opposition party will have been lost.
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Here's the Republican plan for infrastructure and the jobs it will create- "We will fund this infrastructure bill and get it through ONLY if we get to repeal the Davis - Bacon act that calls for the prevailing wage to be used on the projects involved in infrastructure."
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(1) Trump hasn't offered a bill.
(2) So Schumer hasn't had a chance to say "no".
(2) So Schumer hasn't had a chance to say "no".
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The democrats always pushed infrastructure spending because it was restricted to "prevailing wage" union workers who cost an estimated 25% more than their non-union counterparts but kickback most of their union dues to the democrats, so the more infrastructure spending the more kickbacks to the democrats.
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Of course in the past, the "party of no" was derided as obstructionist and unwilling compromise. This was NOT thought to be a good thing.
But now, do I smell the whiff of approval, or dare I say, ENCOURAGEMMENT?
The weather sure does change quick around here.
But now, do I smell the whiff of approval, or dare I say, ENCOURAGEMMENT?
The weather sure does change quick around here.
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The establishment Democrats lost because they failed to listen to their base. The Republicans won because they had no choice but to listen to their base.
Both wanted change.
And now, thanks to the Democrats, we definitely have change for the worse.
Thanks Hillary, Debbie and the rest of you.
Both wanted change.
And now, thanks to the Democrats, we definitely have change for the worse.
Thanks Hillary, Debbie and the rest of you.
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No, the Republicans won because they were willing to believe Trump's outrageous lies. Republicans put aside their doubts and misgivings about their candidate and allowed their irrational hatred of Hillary Clinton to overtake their better judgement. The Republican base indicated that they would accept a president that was an overt racist, serial sexual abuser and liar. The base was so afraid of foreigners that they aligned themselves with a man who promised to rid the country of them. I'm glad the Democrats failed to listen to a base that was willing to put aside some of our most cherished democratic principles and that appeared to have forgotten what the American promise was all about. I wouldn't want to be part of that kind of a political party. In the short term, it may appear that the Democrats are the losers, but allowing Trump to win will, in the long run, be the downfall of the Republican Party, and rightly so.
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MSPea: It wasn't just Republicans that did not think Hillary would be a good president and good for the country. She was forced down the throats of many Democrats. And the independents didn't vote for her either. And the democrats will continue to lose unless they listen to the people and not the elites of the party and don't get rid of the supermajorities, Not democratic.
Most voters don't identify with identity politics, no matter your race or ethnicity. Class warfare runs counter to E Pluribus Unum. And not being truthful regarding the policies they intend to deploy if elected is widely perceived to be their tradecraft.
And, of course, the Tourettes-like propensity to spontaneously cut loose with the 'racist, misogynist, nativist, homophobe climate denier' shriek . . . is just not very Dale Carnegie, if you know what I mean (ha!).
But who am I to criticize? I prefer to just walk away from people like that. It looks contagious.
"The liberty to have and hold property is not one that today's so-called 'Liberals' recognize. They believe only in the liberty to envy, hate and loot the man who has it." H. L. Mencken.
And, of course, the Tourettes-like propensity to spontaneously cut loose with the 'racist, misogynist, nativist, homophobe climate denier' shriek . . . is just not very Dale Carnegie, if you know what I mean (ha!).
But who am I to criticize? I prefer to just walk away from people like that. It looks contagious.
"The liberty to have and hold property is not one that today's so-called 'Liberals' recognize. They believe only in the liberty to envy, hate and loot the man who has it." H. L. Mencken.
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And once again the Left turns on a dime and changes position. Here are but a few:
Before: filibuster bad
Now: filibuster good
Before: Party of no = terrorists
Now: Party of no = patriots
Before: nuclear option good
Now: nuclear option bad
Both parties are hypocritical but if it was an Olympic sport, the Left would win gold, silver, and bronze.
Before: filibuster bad
Now: filibuster good
Before: Party of no = terrorists
Now: Party of no = patriots
Before: nuclear option good
Now: nuclear option bad
Both parties are hypocritical but if it was an Olympic sport, the Left would win gold, silver, and bronze.
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Learning to start fires! Let's do it!
Yes, start setting fires like the rioters in Furgeson and Baltimore. That will surely get people to vote democrat.
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Figuratively, not literally!
Why not? After eight years of stonewalling, let the repubicans have a taster of their own medicine.
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Does "giving them a taste of their own medicine" pass for doing their job?
In 4-8 years if the situation is reversed, will you have the same attitude?
At some point, and it SHOULDNT have stopped in the first place, being a legislator and doing your job by working with the party in power needs to take place for the good of the country.
In 4-8 years if the situation is reversed, will you have the same attitude?
At some point, and it SHOULDNT have stopped in the first place, being a legislator and doing your job by working with the party in power needs to take place for the good of the country.
“I think it has reminded Democrats we need to run on our values,” says Elizabeth Warren. "Because our values are more in line with most of America.”
Warren/Booker 2020
Warren/Booker 2020
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There's a big difference between No Taxes-No Science-No Health Care-No Regulation-No Separation of Church & State-Know Nothing Republicanism and the Democratic resistance to Trump Nihilism that threatens the climate, the air, the water, the Earth, women's uteruses, the national treasury, race relations, voter rights and world peace with a patented Reverse Robin Hood Congress dedicated to ripping off 320 million Americans with an endless river of Grand Old Prevarication.
The Democrats, for all their many weaknesses, still stand for worker rights, civil rights, voter rights, economic justice, legal justice, modernity and progress.
The Democrats still stand on the moral high ground.
The Republicans stand on nothing but 0.1% tax-cut quicksand, the 1950's Whites R Us franchise, and Donald Trump's long documented record of moral, intellectual and economic bankruptcy.
'No !' to Republican Know Nothing Nihilism is the right answer.
The Democrats, for all their many weaknesses, still stand for worker rights, civil rights, voter rights, economic justice, legal justice, modernity and progress.
The Democrats still stand on the moral high ground.
The Republicans stand on nothing but 0.1% tax-cut quicksand, the 1950's Whites R Us franchise, and Donald Trump's long documented record of moral, intellectual and economic bankruptcy.
'No !' to Republican Know Nothing Nihilism is the right answer.
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thank you, Socrates, well said!
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The truth is is that the Democrats turned it back on the first woman would be president in history. And they did it with the help of the Russians. Pretty stupid. Bernie should have known this but he was too wrapped up in his ego to even stop to think. Hillary deserved it and it was the Democrats turned her away. Bernie gave credit Millatti to everything Trump Republicans in the Russians tried to do. How stupid. And could see by their comments that they still can't figure it out. Touting the little man Bernie still. Luckily most of them went back to school maybe they'll learn something.
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The opposition needs to do much more than obstruct; they need to identify the issues and use slogans and tactics akin to the worst tactics of those in power.
The republicans fought the ACA with issues like the 'death panels'. They have now proposed mandated genetic testing which can only mean that they are planning to identify and neutralize those in our society whose genetic makeup is not in accordance with their requirements - perhaps there will be 'death squads.'
The previous president was not legitimate because he had not produced his birth certificate. Perhaps this president is a Russian agent until he produces his tax returns and how many Russians have been given apartments in the president's properties?
Etc, etc, etc, etc.
The republicans fought the ACA with issues like the 'death panels'. They have now proposed mandated genetic testing which can only mean that they are planning to identify and neutralize those in our society whose genetic makeup is not in accordance with their requirements - perhaps there will be 'death squads.'
The previous president was not legitimate because he had not produced his birth certificate. Perhaps this president is a Russian agent until he produces his tax returns and how many Russians have been given apartments in the president's properties?
Etc, etc, etc, etc.
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This is the finest analysis of the current state of the Democratic party I've read since the election. As a neighbor of Senator Schumer, I've had a front row seat to the frustration and hostility he has faced. I myself refuse to vote for him again after his gutless response to the deal made with Iran recently. That being said, I do believe that the Democratic response has been over the top and counter productive. In the last election Democratic candidates, including the presidential candidate, received more votes than Republicans. Long term Democrats will win on the issues because, as the the US becomes more populous and diverse, the changes they advocate will become necessary. I think Democrats must be the grown-up in the room and remain calm in the face of what history will see as a national temper tantrum. Black folks have been dealing with openly hostile and racist elected officials for many years and yet they're still here and making (too slow) advances. Democrats should do what good parents learn-when your child misbehaves, stay calm and persistent in your position. When you respond with violence, you end up losing the fight.
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Senator Sanders is exactly right. Nothing short of a "complete transformation" of the Democratic Party will ensure them a successful future. It was obvious during the primary season, it was obvious during the nomination process, and was obvious when the DNC elected its next chairman: the establishment of the Democratic Party is still firmly in control. And blinded to the possibilities the moment holds. Resist by all means. The lawyers who did the actual work in helping traveillers stuck in our entry airports after President Trump's first immigration order were the real heroes. So were the lawyers who mounted the legal actions against the order. Resisting everything regardless of its merits may placated the base but it's just plain stupid. The article does little to convince me that Democrats and liberals in general have learned litttle, perhaps even nothing, from our recent humiliation. The 2016 election was ours to lose and we did a fine job. Now it's time to overhaul the Party and develop a long-term strategy that will convince at least some of those 65 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump to consider voting for a Democrat next time. We need more imagination than saying "no."
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Bernie Sanders remains the voice of reason among the “establishment’s house”.
Asked if he thought the Democratic Party knew what it stood for: “You’re asking a good question, and I can’t give you a definitive answer.” “Certainly there are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”
“You’ve got to stand for something.”
Asked if he thought the Democratic Party knew what it stood for: “You’re asking a good question, and I can’t give you a definitive answer.” “Certainly there are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”
“You’ve got to stand for something.”
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Unfortunately, the Democratic party instead chose to stand for the old guard, Crooked Hilary. I would have vote for Bernie if he were the presidential nominee. Nobody but he and Trump are concerned about jobs for middle America. The rest of the Dems are concerned with only ultra liberal issues, not the problems of ordinary Americans looking to work and support their families.
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All respects to the Burning Man. And it is a good, difficult question. And no Bernie is not in a position to give a definitive answer. So why not ask a Democrat?
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The Democratic Party has solid values. We don't need to change our message. We need to change our tactics. The Republicans fight dirty is time we fight back with equal cunning. This is a knife fight, a street fight. We can't afford to play nice anymore. They have North and Soth Dakota, just to get more electoral votes, well maybe we need 3 Californias. They gerrymander during midterm, let's get out the vote on midterms as strongly as we do for presidential races. We need to keep suing them for their voter suppression tactics specifically targeted to race. In fact, we just have to keep suing them on everything, if we win 20% of the time, those are twenty battles won. Let's go for broke and see what sticks. Let's just say NO.
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I don't see the democrats as the party of no. I see the democrats trying to thread the needle in speaking truth to power. Their problem is that they too have big corporate and wealthy donors and trying to serve the people and keep their largest donors is a losing battle because they try to do too little. But at least they try.
The republicans are all in for the donor class. No minimum wage, no regulations, no benefits, no healthcare, no taxes, no immigrants, no medicare, no social security, no no no. They are still the party of no...
The republicans talk a good game about religion and serving the average American and giving them choice..but it is a bait and switch.
The republicans are all in for the donor class. No minimum wage, no regulations, no benefits, no healthcare, no taxes, no immigrants, no medicare, no social security, no no no. They are still the party of no...
The republicans talk a good game about religion and serving the average American and giving them choice..but it is a bait and switch.
The real issue here is the inability of either party to govern from the middle. During the Obama years the political extremism of the Tea Party, personified by the actions of Ted Cruz in shutting down our government, with the poster child being their forced removal of Speaker Boehner, have set the tone.
We are no more than the individuals we elect to do the peoples' business. And while we keep learning that many of those people are willing to go low as, say, McConnell and Ryan were in effectively stealing a SCOTUS seat, we keep coming back for more. The classic definition of insanity.
Placing party over country has become the "new normal" with disastrous results. No party has a lock on ideas, good or bad, but the last eight years have taught us that the GOP, as well as some Democrats, are willing to go to any extreme to achieve their personal goals.
We are no more than the individuals we elect to do the peoples' business. And while we keep learning that many of those people are willing to go low as, say, McConnell and Ryan were in effectively stealing a SCOTUS seat, we keep coming back for more. The classic definition of insanity.
Placing party over country has become the "new normal" with disastrous results. No party has a lock on ideas, good or bad, but the last eight years have taught us that the GOP, as well as some Democrats, are willing to go to any extreme to achieve their personal goals.
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Schumer et al. still don't get it.
To the extent that either of the two major parties remain viable – and that's highly doubtful – the road forward depends upon articulating a set of principles and fighting for those principles no matter what.
Who can say that the Democratic Party has done that since the Clinton gang took over in 1992?
All of the party's major legislative achievements - Obamacare, welfare reform, NAFTA, various other free trade deals, etc. – were originated by Republicans or Republican think tanks.
It's not enough to simply say that you care about the average working person. You have to actually push for policies that help those people. Democrats haven't done that. I'm actually surprised they are in as good shape as they are.
To the extent that either of the two major parties remain viable – and that's highly doubtful – the road forward depends upon articulating a set of principles and fighting for those principles no matter what.
Who can say that the Democratic Party has done that since the Clinton gang took over in 1992?
All of the party's major legislative achievements - Obamacare, welfare reform, NAFTA, various other free trade deals, etc. – were originated by Republicans or Republican think tanks.
It's not enough to simply say that you care about the average working person. You have to actually push for policies that help those people. Democrats haven't done that. I'm actually surprised they are in as good shape as they are.
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Good grief. Apparently someone seems to have forgotten the entire Reagan phenomenon and the Southern Strategy, and what it did to the Democratic majority, as Johnson knew would be the political cost the Dems would pay for enacting civil rights. I was never a Clinton fan, but he got us back into the White House after twelve miserable years of Republican corruption (more indictments came down during the Reagan administration than I can remember, with various cabinet members going to jail, and don't forget Iran-contra.) and god awful appointments to the Supreme Court -- Scalia, Clarence Thomas. And if he had to triangulate to deal with all those Reagan democrats who were the ones to desert the party -- the party did not leave them -- they wanted the idiotic actor to be present, all Democratic ideals out the window-- well that is what was necessary at the time.
Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy and delivered a reasonable economy but that wasn't good enough, so voters had to vote Bush II to crash the economy yet again and run up the national debt and the deficits just like Reagan had done with what pappy Bush correctly called his voodoo economics.
Yep, Clinton did bad stuff -- repeal of Glass-Steagal, welfare reform that did not take into consideration what happens when a Republican comes along and crashes the economy so the folks that are supposed to be getting off welfare can't possibly find work. But still far better than more awful S Ct justices.
But Clinton was still
Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy and delivered a reasonable economy but that wasn't good enough, so voters had to vote Bush II to crash the economy yet again and run up the national debt and the deficits just like Reagan had done with what pappy Bush correctly called his voodoo economics.
Yep, Clinton did bad stuff -- repeal of Glass-Steagal, welfare reform that did not take into consideration what happens when a Republican comes along and crashes the economy so the folks that are supposed to be getting off welfare can't possibly find work. But still far better than more awful S Ct justices.
But Clinton was still
After WW2, trade unions and the DP thrived because America’s industrial machine was in overdrive and needed to respect labor. Even as the industrial machine coughed to a halt as other nations rose, the DP still thought of itself as a party of government. But parties everywhere are in trouble now because government in the age of hi-tech calls for technocrats and not just glad-handing shills. And the competent are “arrogant elites,” and are hunted like RINOs and shunned by ill-informed voters. In one direction, we got a stampede away from politics, as when 42% of eligible voters failed to vote. In other directions there were mini-stampedes into “issues,” most of them seriously important, but with disciples who become schismatics. (“What’s a bread and butter issue, anyway? Who eats bread and butter anymore?”)
Whether or not winning back these voters is the aim of the DP, opposition must be central—opposition to the notions that might makes right and that wealth indicates success. The decay of inner-and their schools, the decay of pockets of rural isolation call for a Marshall-style plan for urban renewal and rural development. These times call for a Constitutional Commission, and a recommitment to the virtues that made America great. Greed may be good but at today’s level, it is toxic to good government.
Whether or not winning back these voters is the aim of the DP, opposition must be central—opposition to the notions that might makes right and that wealth indicates success. The decay of inner-and their schools, the decay of pockets of rural isolation call for a Marshall-style plan for urban renewal and rural development. These times call for a Constitutional Commission, and a recommitment to the virtues that made America great. Greed may be good but at today’s level, it is toxic to good government.
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The Democrats need to ask people two questions:
Who was president when you got your medical insurance?
Who is the President when you lose your medical insurance?
Or as saint Ronnie put it: "Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?"
Who was president when you got your medical insurance?
Who is the President when you lose your medical insurance?
Or as saint Ronnie put it: "Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?"
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As a nation we should be having two conversations regarding health vs illness: one, of how to improve and maintain the health of all Americans, and two, of how to provide good and not outrageously expensive medical care to sick Americans. A conversation in a free enterprise system that values maximizing profit over anything else this is not going happen as long as we rely on the private insurance industry which has as its main aim maximizing profit over loss. Obamacare and Medicare are perfect examples of Government/private insurance for profit vs. Government only insurance not for profit.
As a middle class American, Obama was the president when I lost my health insurance (thanks to Obamacare). Trump is the president that is bringing it back!
It is an absolute certainty that Middle class Americans will be better off economically with Trump. Obama just gave free stuff away to people who don't pay taxes and stuck us with the bill.
The proper question the democrats should ask is: Who votes in greater proportion, poor people or middle class people?
It is an absolute certainty that Middle class Americans will be better off economically with Trump. Obama just gave free stuff away to people who don't pay taxes and stuck us with the bill.
The proper question the democrats should ask is: Who votes in greater proportion, poor people or middle class people?
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I am already far worse off than I was 4 months ago - forget about 4 years!
Bernies "babies" stayed home and are as guilty as those who voted for Trump. They're hardly in a position to make demands. Schumer and the Dems are fairly powerless to stop the destruction that Trump and the Republicans will inflict on the country.
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"Bernies "babies" stayed home and are as guilty as those who voted for Trump."
This is just not the case.
The election was not about voting FOR a candidate – it was about voting AGAINST a candidate.
Folks who supported Sanders realized more than ANY Clinton hating Democrats that not voting for Clinton, or voting for Trump would result in…well, what you’re seeing now.
Clinton’s loss, errr, actually Trump's win was the result of Reagan Dems voting against Clinton.
IF Sanders hadn’t been subterfuged by the DNC, and won the nomination, he would have won the election, because he stood for something. Sanders beating Clinton in the Montana primaries says it all. People would have voted FOR him instead of AGAINST Clinton.
This is just not the case.
The election was not about voting FOR a candidate – it was about voting AGAINST a candidate.
Folks who supported Sanders realized more than ANY Clinton hating Democrats that not voting for Clinton, or voting for Trump would result in…well, what you’re seeing now.
Clinton’s loss, errr, actually Trump's win was the result of Reagan Dems voting against Clinton.
IF Sanders hadn’t been subterfuged by the DNC, and won the nomination, he would have won the election, because he stood for something. Sanders beating Clinton in the Montana primaries says it all. People would have voted FOR him instead of AGAINST Clinton.
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Ignorance is bliss.
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You know, every article like this I read only confirms for me more the failure of the two party system.
In a country as diverse in every way as ours, the idea that when we go to the voting booth we only have two realistic choices is so utterly disappointing to me.
It reinforces the fiction that as a country we can only function in one of two ways, when nothing could be further from the truth. We are stunted and malnourished as a nation. We suffer from bureaucratic scurvy.
In a country as diverse in every way as ours, the idea that when we go to the voting booth we only have two realistic choices is so utterly disappointing to me.
It reinforces the fiction that as a country we can only function in one of two ways, when nothing could be further from the truth. We are stunted and malnourished as a nation. We suffer from bureaucratic scurvy.
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It can all be distilled down to a single word: Resist.
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If you're the party of smaller government saying no isn't philosophically dangerous. If you're the party of big government doing big things to benefit society saying no is a high risk strategy. The Democrats are in a box where the left seems to think it's the answer to the hard right Republicans that now govern.
The US is a center right country. The Democratic party needs to govern from the center which means saying yes to good policy that might move the country forward.
Being the party of no won't work for Democrats like it did for Republicans. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders aren't electable in a Republic of States.
The US is a center right country. The Democratic party needs to govern from the center which means saying yes to good policy that might move the country forward.
Being the party of no won't work for Democrats like it did for Republicans. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders aren't electable in a Republic of States.
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If Democrats are the party of "no," it's because thus far the Republicans have proposed terrible, ineptly-drawn legislation and give their support to a vindictive narcissist.
I hope the Democrats can focus on delivering the vote for the 2018 mid-terms. If Congress is swept clean, Trump will be neutralized. There's a map on Google that shows that "only 8 states + Washington DC, had high enough voter turnouts where one of the actual candidates won more votes than people who did not bother to vote. Iowa and Wisconsin for Trump and Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire and DC for Clinton." I wonder whether the "did not votes" were complacent Dems, assuming Clinton would win, based on polls and news reports.
If we could get the "did not votes" to vote, maybe the Dems could do great in 2018.
I hope the Democrats can focus on delivering the vote for the 2018 mid-terms. If Congress is swept clean, Trump will be neutralized. There's a map on Google that shows that "only 8 states + Washington DC, had high enough voter turnouts where one of the actual candidates won more votes than people who did not bother to vote. Iowa and Wisconsin for Trump and Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire and DC for Clinton." I wonder whether the "did not votes" were complacent Dems, assuming Clinton would win, based on polls and news reports.
If we could get the "did not votes" to vote, maybe the Dems could do great in 2018.
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As a lifelong independent voter, I can't even read past the tenth paragraph. Apparently it takes a national crisis in order for the Democratic Party to develop new blood. However, even now, if the election were redone, it's highly unlikely they'd present voters with a winning candidate, because they're still living in, and desperately hanging onto, the past. Well, not this independent! I get where I'm going by depending on my car's headlights, not the rear view mirror.
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This article summarizes the very keen dilemma of the Democrats: they have no leader and no rising star. Neither do they hold enough state houses with young talent that will provide the leadership of the future. Bernie Sanders, stalwart fighter of the old left wing, can serve as grandpa. Schumer can serve as serve as sage counselor and savvy political operator, Warren as the as the acid voice of outraged objection. Put all three of them together and you still don't get even a third of a presidential candidate or party leader.
Democrats need a young voice of idealism that will remind voters of what government can do for them (in the face of the Republican mantra since Reagan: government can't and shouldn't do anything for you, except overspend on defense). Government can create the framework for growth in productivity by investing tax dollars in infrastructure. Government can help provide decent healthcare for all. Government can create a set of laws protecting against the naked pillaging of the environment by business for profit. Government can establish a level playing field for people of all backgrounds to succeed. This is the hope Obama offered and, to some extent, succeeded in fulfilling
Lacking a new idealistic class of leaders, Democrats must rely on the Republicans to shoot themselves in the foot—something the GOP has a talent for doing almost every day. But that's not enough to create the framework of a coherent Democratic party vision.
Democrats need a young voice of idealism that will remind voters of what government can do for them (in the face of the Republican mantra since Reagan: government can't and shouldn't do anything for you, except overspend on defense). Government can create the framework for growth in productivity by investing tax dollars in infrastructure. Government can help provide decent healthcare for all. Government can create a set of laws protecting against the naked pillaging of the environment by business for profit. Government can establish a level playing field for people of all backgrounds to succeed. This is the hope Obama offered and, to some extent, succeeded in fulfilling
Lacking a new idealistic class of leaders, Democrats must rely on the Republicans to shoot themselves in the foot—something the GOP has a talent for doing almost every day. But that's not enough to create the framework of a coherent Democratic party vision.
As long as Democrats have no program, no policy, no platform, and no proposals they will remain the minority. Warren, Schumer, and Sanders are the aged faces of an unhinged opposition, with nothing to offer but overheated, shrill whining about everything the President does. America voted for change in 2016 and the Dems, rather than finding a way to move the nation ahead on their own terms with their own voice, are all about standing in the way.
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about time the Democrats just stopped rolling over.
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What made the Dems the party of "NO"? Perhaps losing the House, Senate, Presidency, State Legislatures and Governorships within the last eight years.
Best of luck with that strategy. That said, do the Dems have anything left to lose?
Best of luck with that strategy. That said, do the Dems have anything left to lose?
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Schumer and Pelosi have to go. They and their handpicked candidate lost. Their ideas are weak, leadership poor and they're just too old thinking.
Time for some fresh faces and fresh thinking. Gabard, Duckworth, Ellison.
Time for some fresh faces and fresh thinking. Gabard, Duckworth, Ellison.
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Hey, it worked for the GOP. They spent 8 years saying no.
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Repeal and Replace Congressional Republicans in 2018.
It is moral and just to oppose policies which may hurt citizens, such as health care. It is moral and just to oppose policies which will hurt where we live, such destroying EPA regulations. It is moral and just to expect monetary policy to enable the majority of the country to prosper, even if through regulation. It is moral and just to protect the judiciary from political influence. It is moral and just to protect voting rights, especially for the least of us. It is moral and just to given sanctuary to those living in war, especially children. It is moral and just to expect the best of our leaders, including transparency with regard to their own finances. It is moral and just to expect our leaders to be free from foreign influence. This is not obstruction, but necessary to promote justice, and it must prosper in a moral society.
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We can't look at this current situation through a traditional lens. For starters, there is a ton of evidence suggesting a foreign power has infiltrated government VIA OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT.
That, and the GOP is starting to look like a paid lobbying group empowered to make laws and less like representative of the populace.
How else to explain passing laws like those enabling the mentally ill to buy guns and the debacle on full display around insurance. There is their war on women, LGBTQ, the press, the judiciary etc and oh, their wish to systematically dismantle the EPA, Dept of Education. This just off the top of my head--any reader here probably can think of dozens of things I missed.
The point is these are not normal times.
If I were the Dems, I would look closely at three people: Dan Rather, Robert Reich and Elizabeth Warren. They are adept at are dispelling Republican myths with facts in a way that is getting through to the average voter via social media. Two via writing, Ms. Warren through sharable soundbites.
That's how you do it.
Fight the good legislative fight. But keep the eye on the ball: you have to explain to people using FACTS that the GOP is not their champion. Republicans pride themselves on their pragmatism: appeal to that. For anyone who likes statistics, there is a plethora of simple statistical data to make the points that need to be made.
Let's not frame this as business as usual--these are not normal times and they call for smarter tactics.
That, and the GOP is starting to look like a paid lobbying group empowered to make laws and less like representative of the populace.
How else to explain passing laws like those enabling the mentally ill to buy guns and the debacle on full display around insurance. There is their war on women, LGBTQ, the press, the judiciary etc and oh, their wish to systematically dismantle the EPA, Dept of Education. This just off the top of my head--any reader here probably can think of dozens of things I missed.
The point is these are not normal times.
If I were the Dems, I would look closely at three people: Dan Rather, Robert Reich and Elizabeth Warren. They are adept at are dispelling Republican myths with facts in a way that is getting through to the average voter via social media. Two via writing, Ms. Warren through sharable soundbites.
That's how you do it.
Fight the good legislative fight. But keep the eye on the ball: you have to explain to people using FACTS that the GOP is not their champion. Republicans pride themselves on their pragmatism: appeal to that. For anyone who likes statistics, there is a plethora of simple statistical data to make the points that need to be made.
Let's not frame this as business as usual--these are not normal times and they call for smarter tactics.
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When Republicans were the 'party of no', they controlled at least one House of Congress. By trying to be the 'new party of no' when they have absolutely no power in Washington, with control of no branch of of the Federal government, the Democrats risk emphasising their very impotence by constantly opposing policies and nominees that are enacted/confirmed anyway.
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Excellent point
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What is the choice? The Republicans opted not simply for "no" over eight years, they refused discussion. They fomented not loyal opposition but enmity. They still aren't interested in compromise, only submission. What, really - sadly - is the choice?
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In summary, the difference between the Democratic No and the Republican No is that the Democrats say NO to those things that will hurt people, especially the most vulnerable. While the Republicans say NO to those things that can the wealthy, especially the 1% (but YES to those things that can hurt the most vulnerable).
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Supposed to be:
Democrats say NO to those things that will hurt people, especially the most vulnerable. While the Republicans say NO to those things that can inconvenience the wealthy, especially the 1%
Democrats say NO to those things that will hurt people, especially the most vulnerable. While the Republicans say NO to those things that can inconvenience the wealthy, especially the 1%
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"The Party of No" Democratic strategy digs a deeper hole for a party lacking any viable leaders.
If an elected official accomplishes nothing beneficial to his or her constituents, that official is useless.
Trump's election victory was fueled by disgust for career politicians who accomplish nothing useful.
If an elected official accomplishes nothing beneficial to his or her constituents, that official is useless.
Trump's election victory was fueled by disgust for career politicians who accomplish nothing useful.
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They are doing what is goos for America.Two wrongs do not make a right.
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Trump promotes a politics that is exclusionary, angry, and disrespectful. He, his close associates and committed followers want to tear down what most accept to be the foundations of our society.
This triggered existential angst, particularly for those who have lived in and worked for an America that is inclusive, hopeful and respectful.
Indivisibleguide.org provides the blueprint for citizens who will not accept the Trump view and are willing to raise their voices in opposition.
SwingLeft.org focuses on shifting 52 swing seats in the House of Representatives from Republicans to Democrats on November 6, 2018.
Countless other volunteer groups have sprung up to fight for the progressive country they believe in, while organizations like the ACLU and Planned Parenthood receive record levels of donations.
Democrats like Schumer, too focused on the big money upon which modern campaigns depend, forgot that politics is ''of, for, or relating to citizens.'' Can Schumer and his fellow professional Democrats respond effectively to the new wave of passonate people power to bring a quick end to Trumpism?
The fate of the Nation depends on it.
This triggered existential angst, particularly for those who have lived in and worked for an America that is inclusive, hopeful and respectful.
Indivisibleguide.org provides the blueprint for citizens who will not accept the Trump view and are willing to raise their voices in opposition.
SwingLeft.org focuses on shifting 52 swing seats in the House of Representatives from Republicans to Democrats on November 6, 2018.
Countless other volunteer groups have sprung up to fight for the progressive country they believe in, while organizations like the ACLU and Planned Parenthood receive record levels of donations.
Democrats like Schumer, too focused on the big money upon which modern campaigns depend, forgot that politics is ''of, for, or relating to citizens.'' Can Schumer and his fellow professional Democrats respond effectively to the new wave of passonate people power to bring a quick end to Trumpism?
The fate of the Nation depends on it.
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What a tired old bunch they are. Nancy Pelosi is 76; her assistants are 77 and 76. Chuck Schemer is 66. Elizabeth Warren is 67 and Bernie Sanders is 75. Where are the young spokesmen for the party. Is it realistic to expect any of these traditional politicians to figure out how to be the Tea Party of the Left. Tea Partymembers are not steeped in the traditions of government nor do they hold the idea of government in high regard. They were and are effective because they started as outsiders. Does anybody consider any of the current Democrat leaders outsiders. Hardly the group to start a revolution.
So, let the huffing and puffing continue. Meanwhile, the regulations will disappear, Trump's campaign promises will be implemented (a surprising turn of events in any political campaign), and the judiciary will be remade. I eagerly await the major Democrat impotency to be displayed when either Ginzburg or Breyer leave the Court. They huffed and they puffed...