The northeast corner ruined my solving streak. It contained two esoteric entries I could not reconcile.
ARTI has been challenged elsewhere in these comments, and seems completely artificial. BIGD is probably known only to locals or football fans.
ARTI has been challenged elsewhere in these comments, and seems completely artificial. BIGD is probably known only to locals or football fans.
What is ARTI, where lines are drawn?
Beginner's art class. Think Art 101 or Econ 101.
Very slow start for me, although I was pleased to remember SHIRLEYCHISHOLM. But a few things here and there opened up the floodgates, and I finished in less time than usual for a Saturday. Well, except for the Natick of SCUT/NEUER, I figured SCAT could be reasonable for 51D and never bothered to revisit the square. Can I claim ITSNOTFAIR?
Loved the long downs. Don't know SPORCLE, will check it out.
The recently and too-soon departed George Michael, with his immortal #1 smash "FAITH" from 1987:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0
Loved the long downs. Don't know SPORCLE, will check it out.
The recently and too-soon departed George Michael, with his immortal #1 smash "FAITH" from 1987:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0
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Strenuous Saturday workout, challenging, clever, and fair. The obscure answers are gettable with crosses. Really wanted "Petra" at 10D. Here's to you, Mary Lou!
I put Petra there as well!
Me too.
A very enjoyable puzzle that I almost finished. Loved the long entries. I've now been doing the NYT daily for about 6 months and am just beginning to crack the Saturdays. If ANYONE LISTENING, any tips on conquering Saturdays? I'm guessing it's just a matter of practice.
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Put it down and come back to it, that always helps.
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Enter no letter before it's time.
Some swear by entering and erasing. But the open space -- "negative space" as Henry Rathvon, Emily Cox, and "Pagan" Kennedy might say -- is where ideas occur. If you fill in a letter, does your eye signal your brain that it might be just a guess at the letter? Does your eye see it as erasable?
I enter each square only if merited. Nothing is to be taken for granted in the themelesses. (The same may be true for parts of the Sunday, although the theme answers give many toeholds on many words.) I may enter 2 squares in a 5-letter word, then come back 'round after I've done other corners of the grid.
Let's face it: Having an A in a word will not assist you in determining that the crossing word is SCUT. It will, in fact, hinder you. Leave that square blank. It may remain blank, or it may get filled in; but meanwhile, you don't have to look at it and believe it to be filled.
Also, make marks. Have meanginful (to you) indicators of different problem clues. "Let" can be a clue referring to tennis, to "allowed", to rentals, etc. So maybe circle that word in the clue. Some other type of clue, maybe you underline. It's your puzzle, your paper.
And NEVER, until you're such a late-week expert that you could edit the puzzles, never think of the clues as "questions" that are being "answered" in the grid!! That false mindset leads to comments like, "I don't know opera". CLues don't ask for knowledge, they ask for letters. Solely. Enter letters.
Enter no letter before it's time.
Some swear by entering and erasing. But the open space -- "negative space" as Henry Rathvon, Emily Cox, and "Pagan" Kennedy might say -- is where ideas occur. If you fill in a letter, does your eye signal your brain that it might be just a guess at the letter? Does your eye see it as erasable?
I enter each square only if merited. Nothing is to be taken for granted in the themelesses. (The same may be true for parts of the Sunday, although the theme answers give many toeholds on many words.) I may enter 2 squares in a 5-letter word, then come back 'round after I've done other corners of the grid.
Let's face it: Having an A in a word will not assist you in determining that the crossing word is SCUT. It will, in fact, hinder you. Leave that square blank. It may remain blank, or it may get filled in; but meanwhile, you don't have to look at it and believe it to be filled.
Also, make marks. Have meanginful (to you) indicators of different problem clues. "Let" can be a clue referring to tennis, to "allowed", to rentals, etc. So maybe circle that word in the clue. Some other type of clue, maybe you underline. It's your puzzle, your paper.
And NEVER, until you're such a late-week expert that you could edit the puzzles, never think of the clues as "questions" that are being "answered" in the grid!! That false mindset leads to comments like, "I don't know opera". CLues don't ask for knowledge, they ask for letters. Solely. Enter letters.
I'm so excited. I was working on this puzzle as the 41st in my streak. Took a bit to fill most of it in, but I was close. But I could not finish the bottom center. I really thought my streak would end today.
I was not sure about SCUT and NEUER and kept fiddling around near their crossing. I left it with those correct answers (knowing that is a valid German name spelling and, not being familiar with SCUT work, but I figured maybe it's from 'scuttle'--or something, one of those 'puzzler's intuition' things). After a lot of grief in this area I finally figured I must have a problem elsewhere.
My attention went to "Dragster's grp.", which I had as NHRe. I realized I had no idea what that was, and then questioned "G.I. Wear", which I had as TeeS and OITNB star as TAYLORSCHILLINe (I've never watched it so I had no idea.)
Once I stopped to think what the dragster group would be I hit on National Hot Rod Association, which gave me TAeS for the G.I. wear, which quickly got me to TAGS and TAYLORSCHILLING for the win! Whew! Over 50 minutes, but my streak is alive at 41! :^)
I was not sure about SCUT and NEUER and kept fiddling around near their crossing. I left it with those correct answers (knowing that is a valid German name spelling and, not being familiar with SCUT work, but I figured maybe it's from 'scuttle'--or something, one of those 'puzzler's intuition' things). After a lot of grief in this area I finally figured I must have a problem elsewhere.
My attention went to "Dragster's grp.", which I had as NHRe. I realized I had no idea what that was, and then questioned "G.I. Wear", which I had as TeeS and OITNB star as TAYLORSCHILLINe (I've never watched it so I had no idea.)
Once I stopped to think what the dragster group would be I hit on National Hot Rod Association, which gave me TAeS for the G.I. wear, which quickly got me to TAGS and TAYLORSCHILLING for the win! Whew! Over 50 minutes, but my streak is alive at 41! :^)
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Dan,
Here's something for your "I'm so excited" (and to thank you for explaining to Deadline that today's Eagles were not the music group):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE
Here's something for your "I'm so excited" (and to thank you for explaining to Deadline that today's Eagles were not the music group):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE
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Well done, Dan
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Applause for your tenacity and for the way you went about thinking through your snag.
Keep it up!
Keep it up!
Either Saturdays just got easier, or I just got a lot better, or ML and I were just really on the same wavelength today. My money's on the last option.
Six grid-spanners, five of which I filled in super-quick! SHIRLEY CHISOLM was a (welcome) gimme. (I didn't live in her district, but I did send her campaign some money.) Got IN THE CROSSHAIRS from IN T; TRIPLE WORD SCORE from T?IP; THE PLOT THICKENS from TH?P?O; and ANYONE LISTENING after checking the downs to decide between that and ARE YOU LISTENING.
That left TAYLOR SCHILLING. I've never seen "Orange Is ..." since I don't have any premium channels. I got the TAYLOR part pretty quickly, since there seem to be an awful lot of them around right now. (Is "Taylor" the new "Morgan"?) The rest took a little longer, until finally I had a completed grid except for the intersection of SCHILLING and PHI. Had to be an E or an I, right? Good guess. I'm still not up on my rock bands, but I'm hoping somebody (Jimbo?) will explain PHI to me.
But that's okay. The puzzle put PIAF in my mind, and this evening's listening pleasure was decided upon.
I was also reminded of SPORCLE. A friend recommended it some years back, and I enjoyed it, and then somehow it fell out of my brain. I'll revisit.
That GD ending at 13D caused me to doubt briefly to doubt the arrangement of the stones in my cairn.
A very satisfying puzzler, with lots of sparkly fill. And loved the grid-spanners. Thanks to all.
Six grid-spanners, five of which I filled in super-quick! SHIRLEY CHISOLM was a (welcome) gimme. (I didn't live in her district, but I did send her campaign some money.) Got IN THE CROSSHAIRS from IN T; TRIPLE WORD SCORE from T?IP; THE PLOT THICKENS from TH?P?O; and ANYONE LISTENING after checking the downs to decide between that and ARE YOU LISTENING.
That left TAYLOR SCHILLING. I've never seen "Orange Is ..." since I don't have any premium channels. I got the TAYLOR part pretty quickly, since there seem to be an awful lot of them around right now. (Is "Taylor" the new "Morgan"?) The rest took a little longer, until finally I had a completed grid except for the intersection of SCHILLING and PHI. Had to be an E or an I, right? Good guess. I'm still not up on my rock bands, but I'm hoping somebody (Jimbo?) will explain PHI to me.
But that's okay. The puzzle put PIAF in my mind, and this evening's listening pleasure was decided upon.
I was also reminded of SPORCLE. A friend recommended it some years back, and I enjoyed it, and then somehow it fell out of my brain. I'll revisit.
That GD ending at 13D caused me to doubt briefly to doubt the arrangement of the stones in my cairn.
A very satisfying puzzler, with lots of sparkly fill. And loved the grid-spanners. Thanks to all.
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PHI is the scoreboard abbreviation for the PHI-ladelphia Eagles.
Which we called Iggles when I was growing up there!
Meet me at the Iggle (at Wanamaker's, where my grandmother worked).
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/jonathan.cohen/16566613
Meet me at the Iggle (at Wanamaker's, where my grandmother worked).
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/jonathan.cohen/16566613
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It's a Macy's now, but the "Iggle" is still there. :)
Thoroughly enjoyable Saturday puzzle that as usual seemed impossible but which turned out to be possible. Terrific long answers ANYONE LISTENING? (though that's more the exclamation of a frustrated speaker than someone testing one), THE PLOT THICKENS, IN THE CROSSHAIRS, and my favorite: TRIPLE WORD SCORE for the innocuous "Red square." Did not know Ms. SCHILLING, who Marion Cotillard played, the dragsters' group, the T.S. Eliot title, the palindromist, or the soccer guy. (Or why curlers are in RINKS, but will soon find out.) Like the name SPORCLE and seeing Phil OCHS and SHIRLEY CHISOLM. Cute that the two laugh sounds TEHEE and HAR are maximally far apart on the laugh spectrum. Nice to see the verb LEACH and the odd adjective SCUT. Thought the trans-Pacific clue for SFO was inspired. Nice to learn the M.L.K. quote.
Have often seen FIG. used as abbreviation for FIGURE when it means a number, and when it means an illustration. Not sure if I've ever seen FIG. used when it has another meaning, like a person, as in "Figs. seen in many police procedurals" for SGTS. But did not find this an easy question to settle by googling.
Have often seen FIG. used as abbreviation for FIGURE when it means a number, and when it means an illustration. Not sure if I've ever seen FIG. used when it has another meaning, like a person, as in "Figs. seen in many police procedurals" for SGTS. But did not find this an easy question to settle by googling.
Think of "Is this thing on?" as a comic might say it when his jokes are dying.
Curling - a sport in the Winter Olympics
Aha — thanks, Dan and Rampiak!
As THEPLOTTHICKENS and INTHECROSSHAIRS appeared in that order I got giddy with how great those answers are. And my giddiness did not dissipate as I gamboled around the grid discovering more and more freshness and fun.
What a wonderful Saturday puzzle! It and you, Mary Lou Guizzo, sparkle!
What a wonderful Saturday puzzle! It and you, Mary Lou Guizzo, sparkle!
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A NYT feature recently presented 11 memorable Times crosswords.
All were Mondays or Tuesdays, so that newbies could attempt them. Brief intros told readers what was special about them.
I think the word used was "remarkable".
On one, a co-creator is Johanna _____ . WOW. I have a screen grab of that, with the headline. Not giving the link here because I don't know if you wish to be one-named on this Comments section. If you want the screen grab, Deb knows where to find me. So does Will and one of their test-solvers and a few of your fellow constructors. The trick to finding me on social media is not to look for "MTF Tobin" nor "Maura T. Fan".
A NYT feature recently presented 11 memorable Times crosswords.
All were Mondays or Tuesdays, so that newbies could attempt them. Brief intros told readers what was special about them.
I think the word used was "remarkable".
On one, a co-creator is Johanna _____ . WOW. I have a screen grab of that, with the headline. Not giving the link here because I don't know if you wish to be one-named on this Comments section. If you want the screen grab, Deb knows where to find me. So does Will and one of their test-solvers and a few of your fellow constructors. The trick to finding me on social media is not to look for "MTF Tobin" nor "Maura T. Fan".
Loved this puzzle! Enjoyed the plays on words, especially.
Today's Mini was harder!
Today's Mini was harder!
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Notched my second Saturday in a row with no strikeovers/mistakes. I think I'm in the zone so I'm afraid I'll knock myself off of my perch if I try for 3 in a row next week.
I used to love those Necco wafers when I was a kid. They weren't in the shape of hearts then. And how many can remember, "Stop where you are, Buy a Brock candy bar, a nickle's all you'll pay?"
I used to love those Necco wafers when I was a kid. They weren't in the shape of hearts then. And how many can remember, "Stop where you are, Buy a Brock candy bar, a nickle's all you'll pay?"
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Necco wafers are still around: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Necco-The-Original-Candy-Wafer-Rolls-24-count...
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Necco makes wafers and the classic candy hearts with the words on them.
That was fun, and there ARNO regrets.
Edith.
Edith.
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A funny thing happened to me on the way to 5D. At one point I had most of the letters from the crosses: I had THEP-O--HICKENS. At which point the clue reminded my of my super-vegan grandchildren reacting to new information about how the dairy industry works - and I entered, in all seriousness, I kid you not - THE POOR CHICKENS.
I was only rescued by then filling it ITSNOTFAIR.
I'm still laughing.
An excellent Saturday puzzle by MLG.
I was only rescued by then filling it ITSNOTFAIR.
I'm still laughing.
An excellent Saturday puzzle by MLG.
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Hi Viv.
Sorry, wasn't watching the time.
Sorry, wasn't watching the time.
LOL Viv, I'll be smiling all evening.
So is that an amethat, Rich?
So is that an amethat, Rich?
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HAR! What's an amethat? Is that like a mondegreen?
For a Saturday, this puzzle seemed queasy (quick and easy), even though I didn't know TAYLORSCHILLING, SPORCLE, NEUER, ARIE, NHRA, LEIGH, or TAGS (just kidding on that last one). I just HACKed my way though it. It had spark, that indefinable quality that some puzzles have and other don't. I loved all the longs except TAYLORSCHILLING, and they were the anchors that kept the joy spread throughout.
No big NITS. Just played it LOOS, kept my focus INTHECROSSHAIRS, and nothings seemed to go ARIE. Loved it. THATSIT.
No big NITS. Just played it LOOS, kept my focus INTHECROSSHAIRS, and nothings seemed to go ARIE. Loved it. THATSIT.
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46A!-17A?-I'm going 34A!
I was "Naticked" at SCUT and NEUER. Also filled INTHELINEOFFIRE, which held me up for a while. REV before GIN. Lots of other false steps. I did a little cheating because Wait Wait Don't Tell me comes on at eleven and requires my full attention.
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Although SCUT is not a proper name, so I suppose I should say I was "scuttled."
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I thought IN THE LINE OF FIRE first too, Suzy, and I was ready to complain that those who are there are often *not* targeted. Luckily, I was grabbed by the PECS and shown the correct and complaint-free entry.
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I thought I submitted this a few hours ago, but maybe not?
Two themeless in a row that I really enjoyed. I loved almost all of those long entries. Mary Lou suggests there would be different demographics for the successful solve of 3D and 53A but hopes the crosses would make them possible. In fact I could have had 14 letters in 3D and still not known, so did reluctantly look that up. It was a delight to see SHIRLEY CHISHOLM as others have said.
I caught on to all the misdirectional clues, my favourite being the curling clue. I seem to remember Deb saying that she had become a fan of that sport a while back.
Many thanks, Mary Lou, for a really fun Saturday puzzle.
Two themeless in a row that I really enjoyed. I loved almost all of those long entries. Mary Lou suggests there would be different demographics for the successful solve of 3D and 53A but hopes the crosses would make them possible. In fact I could have had 14 letters in 3D and still not known, so did reluctantly look that up. It was a delight to see SHIRLEY CHISHOLM as others have said.
I caught on to all the misdirectional clues, my favourite being the curling clue. I seem to remember Deb saying that she had become a fan of that sport a while back.
Many thanks, Mary Lou, for a really fun Saturday puzzle.
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Naturally, I wanted THE THLOT PICKENS, but that's just me.
For 42A Cavils, I wanted BUTS. (Pretty sure the Deicer formula is some other salt, but can't come up with it, so NaCl it is.)
Worst part of this amazing GRID (erase, erase) for me, was 16A. I did a minor in ART. There is no such thing as ART I. You take Drawing, Composition, Color, Mixed Media, ART in the Elementary School, Fiber ARTs, ART history, and so on.
Mary Lou Guizzo wins the prize for Best Photo of a Puzzle Constructor :0)
For 42A Cavils, I wanted BUTS. (Pretty sure the Deicer formula is some other salt, but can't come up with it, so NaCl it is.)
Worst part of this amazing GRID (erase, erase) for me, was 16A. I did a minor in ART. There is no such thing as ART I. You take Drawing, Composition, Color, Mixed Media, ART in the Elementary School, Fiber ARTs, ART history, and so on.
Mary Lou Guizzo wins the prize for Best Photo of a Puzzle Constructor :0)
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Of its a new record for youngest constructor.
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Thanks, MOL.
It was only your post that allowed me (finally) to parse ART I correctly.
It was only your post that allowed me (finally) to parse ART I correctly.
THLOT PICKENS? SLIM chance.
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Love THE PLOT THICKENS. Also, the clue Fast Results. I knew I was IN LUCK when I saw MLG's byline.
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In *his* column, Jeff Chen complained about TAYLOR SCHILLING, saying "I do like that the NYT is giving exposure to an on-the-cusp-of-greatness star, but it felt more like being educated than being entertained." I don't know about you, but I don't mind -- and in fact look forward to -- being "educated" by late week puzzles. I don't watch "Orange..." but I could certainly discern Ms. Schilling from the crosses, and I may even remember her name (as some of you who watch the show but don't follow soccer may now remember my gimme Manuel Neuer.
I also did not know who played PIAF, I have not played on SPORCLE, I know every exhibit in the Museum of Science and Industry (of 55 years ago), I did not know the TSE volume, the author of the palindrome, the IHOP slogan, or the MLK quote, and I've never been to Nikolskoye (but I kind of like the music).
I had a very pleasant time educating myself with the crosses.
I also did not know who played PIAF, I have not played on SPORCLE, I know every exhibit in the Museum of Science and Industry (of 55 years ago), I did not know the TSE volume, the author of the palindrome, the IHOP slogan, or the MLK quote, and I've never been to Nikolskoye (but I kind of like the music).
I had a very pleasant time educating myself with the crosses.
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We all know different stuff. PIAF was one of my few gimmes, and I hesitated to put in TREVI at first as I thought it too obvious for a Saturday
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@ Barry Ancona:
My parents go to every large family gathering. This includes "Family Reunions" that are reunions for branches of the family that lost touch with my parents' branches during WWII; for the rest of us, they are not "re" at all. Just unions.
My mother's parents went to Alabama to run a family-owned store right after marrying, because my grandmother's union didn't guarantee her job security unless she was unmarried. Then the family entrepreneur opened another store not too far north fo the border, in TENN, so they managed that store for 10 years. Hence, my mom was born in Tennessee.
The Alabama branch of the family left Alabama one by one, or died. So there are family outposts in places like West Virginia. Family reunions are held in these outposts. One of the ones my parents attended was in Tulsa.
So my parents have never been to heaven ... but they been to Oklahoma. (And no, my mom doesn't remember Tennessee; they moved before she was old enough to store reliable memories. My grandmother had a sister in the union who told her they were accepting married women. She went back to her old industry and collected a pension almost until my mom was 60.)
@ Barry Ancona:
My parents go to every large family gathering. This includes "Family Reunions" that are reunions for branches of the family that lost touch with my parents' branches during WWII; for the rest of us, they are not "re" at all. Just unions.
My mother's parents went to Alabama to run a family-owned store right after marrying, because my grandmother's union didn't guarantee her job security unless she was unmarried. Then the family entrepreneur opened another store not too far north fo the border, in TENN, so they managed that store for 10 years. Hence, my mom was born in Tennessee.
The Alabama branch of the family left Alabama one by one, or died. So there are family outposts in places like West Virginia. Family reunions are held in these outposts. One of the ones my parents attended was in Tulsa.
So my parents have never been to heaven ... but they been to Oklahoma. (And no, my mom doesn't remember Tennessee; they moved before she was old enough to store reliable memories. My grandmother had a sister in the union who told her they were accepting married women. She went back to her old industry and collected a pension almost until my mom was 60.)
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good and that's what I was at the end with the crossings of GINUP (never heard that) and SGTS and especially SPORCLE and NECCO. I kind of like the sound of SPORCLENECCO but I guess it's not likely to replace Natick.
Beyond that a very nice puzzle. A few early gimmes allowed me to fill in a lot of it pretty quickly (for a Saturday) but other areas took considerable work. Nice long downs (well, if I'd heard of the actress) and some other lively entries as well. Completely blanked on the Cotillard film on first pass but it dawned on me shortly thereafter. Similarly with SHIRLEYCHISHOLM.
TAGS without a dog seemed a little off for that clue, but it wasn't a problem. That and PIAF reminded me of a couple of memorable scenes from 'Saving Private Ryan.' Neat to see NHRA after our extended discussion of drag racing yesterday.
Links: Edith PIAF (of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFzViYkZAz4
And (speaking of crossings) in this brief clip Jimmy Cagney solves the puzzle and really struggles with 26a.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK0mjeIky0Y
Je ne regrette rien.
Beyond that a very nice puzzle. A few early gimmes allowed me to fill in a lot of it pretty quickly (for a Saturday) but other areas took considerable work. Nice long downs (well, if I'd heard of the actress) and some other lively entries as well. Completely blanked on the Cotillard film on first pass but it dawned on me shortly thereafter. Similarly with SHIRLEYCHISHOLM.
TAGS without a dog seemed a little off for that clue, but it wasn't a problem. That and PIAF reminded me of a couple of memorable scenes from 'Saving Private Ryan.' Neat to see NHRA after our extended discussion of drag racing yesterday.
Links: Edith PIAF (of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFzViYkZAz4
And (speaking of crossings) in this brief clip Jimmy Cagney solves the puzzle and really struggles with 26a.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK0mjeIky0Y
Je ne regrette rien.
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The title of the Eliot volume (now usually given as Poems 2) is not Latin. It was far enough from Latin to prompt me to do a little research.
Eliot's title (originally mistakenly "Ara vus prec") is a half-line from Dante (who was writing in medieval Italian), quoting the poet Arnaut Daniel (12th c.) who is himself speaking in his own Provençal. A linguistic oddity to say the least.
Ara vos prec, per aquella valor
que vos guida al som de l’escalina,
sovenha vos a temps de ma dolor!
Eliot's title (originally mistakenly "Ara vus prec") is a half-line from Dante (who was writing in medieval Italian), quoting the poet Arnaut Daniel (12th c.) who is himself speaking in his own Provençal. A linguistic oddity to say the least.
Ara vos prec, per aquella valor
que vos guida al som de l’escalina,
sovenha vos a temps de ma dolor!
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Be nice and add the translation?...Please? Pretty please?
Well, as someone who has had the pleasure of learning (and singing!) the Provençal national hymn, I will essay the following:
The troubadour implores the protaganist of Dante's epic poem:
I beg of you, in the name of that power
that guides you now to the top of the ladder,
remember at whiles my suffering (here below).
That's the best my medieval Provençal can attempt. (Hee hee.)
My literal reading would be:
I you pray, for that valor
which you guides to-the summit of the-stairstep,
remember you at times of my sorrow
The troubadour implores the protaganist of Dante's epic poem:
I beg of you, in the name of that power
that guides you now to the top of the ladder,
remember at whiles my suffering (here below).
That's the best my medieval Provençal can attempt. (Hee hee.)
My literal reading would be:
I you pray, for that valor
which you guides to-the summit of the-stairstep,
remember you at times of my sorrow
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(It is also a parallel of bits of the Canterbury Tales, where Chaucer, in relating tales told by strangers from up north, cites their dialect both for pronunciation and vocabulary. Scholars of Middle English are thrilled that Chaucer did this, providing huge clues to the enormous shifts in pronunciation, lexicon and usage that were underway in that time. So with Dante here - his Inferno provides clues to the differentiation ongoing between French, Italian, Provençal and the mother tongue Latin.)
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FYI: High Sierra is a fab golden oldie movie directed by Raoul Walsh starring Bogie & Lupino. One of the ones they don't make 'em like anymore. Available for download for your viewing pleasure at Pirate Bay.
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That was my first thought for that answer as well.
It's only appeared in a puzzle once before (in 1984) and was clued as "Bogart film: 1941."
It's only appeared in a puzzle once before (in 1984) and was clued as "Bogart film: 1941."
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This was a nice workout. I was happy to see both SHIRLEY CHISHOLM nd Phil OCHS in the puzzle. Here's my favorite Phil Ochs song from my favorite Phil Ochs album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWt_CAtPFXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWt_CAtPFXY
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Had that album but misplaced it somewhere along the way.
I believe I still have 'Rehearsals for Retirement' in storage, but I've been known to be wrong about stuff like that before.
I believe I still have 'Rehearsals for Retirement' in storage, but I've been known to be wrong about stuff like that before.
Tape From California was my fist cassette tape. It's long gone.
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Yes!
Quibble: HIGH SIERRA is not actually a mountain range. It's a region in the Sierra Nevada, notable for the "high sierra camps"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sierra_Camps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sierra_Camps
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How can there be a HIGH SIERRA without a Low SIERRA?
HIGH SIERRA seems to get around more than one might think (according to the same source you cited, pete mac):
High Sierra
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
High Sierra may refer to:
High Sierra (biome), a region of California
Sierra Nevada (U.S.), a mountain range in California also called the High Sierra or High Sierras
High Sierra Trail, a hiking trail which crosses the Sierra Nevada
High Sierra (film), a 1941 film starring Humphrey Bogart and Ida Lupino
High Sierra Format, an early CD-ROM filesystem, developed in 1986
High Sierra Music Festival, an annual music festival held in Quincy, California since 1991
High Sierra Search and Rescue, a short-lived 1995 TV series
High Sierra
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
High Sierra may refer to:
High Sierra (biome), a region of California
Sierra Nevada (U.S.), a mountain range in California also called the High Sierra or High Sierras
High Sierra Trail, a hiking trail which crosses the Sierra Nevada
High Sierra (film), a 1941 film starring Humphrey Bogart and Ida Lupino
High Sierra Format, an early CD-ROM filesystem, developed in 1986
High Sierra Music Festival, an annual music festival held in Quincy, California since 1991
High Sierra Search and Rescue, a short-lived 1995 TV series
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Is 8 a Natick square or do you think that's fair for a Saturday? It's two foreign titles crossed with each other.
Two proper names crossing is a Natick, so yes. The TREVI fountain is famous enough not to give many of us trouble. I did have trouble with VOS which was VOX at first. Poetry has a voice, hence the Latin.
Okay, I finally know what a Natick is, but what is its derivation?
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Mary Lou Guizzo, this puzzle -- clues and entries -- is a work of art. I refuse to single out any one clue or entry for praise. This is the type of puzzle that keeps online subscribers.
I did have a slight twitch about "India" in one clue, but NYT style dictates the typography of clues.
Deb, the clues mentioned curlers. Is ANYONE LISTENING?
CURLERS, Deb! You have photos, videos, slide shows. I know you're reluctant to upstage Ms. Guizzo, but your curling material is pure gold! It would complement and accentuate the puzzle, like a fine wine paired by Martin with any of the 16 courses he serves on holidays.
[Sigh]
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Mary Lou Guizzo, this puzzle -- clues and entries -- is a work of art. I refuse to single out any one clue or entry for praise. This is the type of puzzle that keeps online subscribers.
I did have a slight twitch about "India" in one clue, but NYT style dictates the typography of clues.
Deb, the clues mentioned curlers. Is ANYONE LISTENING?
CURLERS, Deb! You have photos, videos, slide shows. I know you're reluctant to upstage Ms. Guizzo, but your curling material is pure gold! It would complement and accentuate the puzzle, like a fine wine paired by Martin with any of the 16 courses he serves on holidays.
[Sigh]
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MTFT, Deb's adventures on NJ ice were top of mind for me also at 29D.
Is there really a video? I'd pay to see it.
Is there really a video? I'd pay to see it.
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I did race through this puzzle, but I can always go back and look it over again. A lot of nice entries in this one.
enjoyable puzzle! liked the mini-theme of Shirley Chisholm and MLK. Anyone listening appropriate for today!
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WYATT
I have nothing left. I have
Nothing to give you. I have no
Pride, no dignity, no money. I
Don't even know how we'll make a
Living. But I promise I'll love
You every second of your life.
JOSEPHINE
Don't worry, Wyatt. My family's rich.
Martin, this was the movie when I fell in love with Dana.