Is a Teen Depressed, or Just Moody?

Feb 13, 2017 · 82 comments
Ian (West Palm Beach Fl)
"Neither could it be accounted for by looking at household composition (two parents versus one parent versus no parents)."

God forbid we blame the single moms, or anyone for that matter.
Susan (Los Angeles)
I was born with a genetic predisposition to depression. Combine that with physical punishment as a child which released my depression by the age of 13 that was not taken seriously by my mother when I told her sometimes I just felt really sad and then I proceeded to mask with drugs. It has taken me a few bouts of severe clinical depression with suicidal ideation and impulses to get a handle on the situation now that I'm in my early 50s. Antidepressants, talk therapy, exercise, acknowledging this is an inherited condition. I am keeping a sharp eye out for my daughter and hope that the lack of being physically hit and demeaned will not unlock any depressive genes that may be locked into her subconscious waiting for a trigger.
Frank Priebe (Overland Park , KS)
Good article. I would like to see where nutrition plays in this. Why? Teens tend to over indulge in comfort foods high in sugar and carbohydrates... recent studies have shown that the sugar is as addictive as a drug. Food for thought.
Bos (Boston)
Some theorize aggression is depression turned outward
Concerned Parent (NJ)
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no1-2017-february/
This article has helped me with my three teenagers , two girls and a boy.
We have to be there as parents and listen when they want to talk. It makes a huge difference. It can literally be life or death.
dolly patterson (Redwood City, CA)
It has helped my son and I enormously to let go of the high expectation/pressure of looking for a prestigious college, for that matter, even looking at colleges in general. He is brilliant, according to standardized test, but has ADHD and fights anxiety. He is not academically motivated despite a 3.28 GPA. Perhaps a "Gap Year" is our solution. Probably so.
Sonny (Detroit MI)
Do the gap year. You will be glad you did and so will he. So many former students tell me they wish they had. Even if a young person is doing wonderfully, the gap year idea is great. But make sure there are real activities--hikes, foreign service learning, meaningful job, Conservation Corps, etc.
Do (Research)
This will make a good topic for a well researched article some day.
Krausewitz (Oxford, UK)
In my experience the overwhelming majority of mental health issues suffered by young people are caused, or at the very least exacerbated, by their parents.

The only way to get treatment to most young people is to provide for free through their schools. Anything less basically means no treatment at all.
Steve Potts (Maryland)
The ability to communicate with our teens by asking the right questions, depends in part on supporting their social system. Teens know when parents are trying to find out what's going on with them, and even when suffering, often don't want to share. So we need to also be able to ask the right questions to their friends. That requires developing a level of trust by making consistent efforts to support all of them. So it's not just raising our own kids, but supporting their friends, so they in turn support our kids. Their lives are a system of interactions, and if we support a healthy system, we support our kids health.
Gráinne (Virginia)
I cannot speak to the reasons teens with loving, kind parents become depressed to the point of suicide. They have as many disputes with their parents as any teen, so love and support--or their lack--are neither a cause nor a solution.

Adolescent depression and suicide are very real. They happen in the kids you least expect. Don't read their journals or blogs. Talk to the child in private frequently. Make special time for each child. If you really know your kid, you'll see beyond normal sturm und drang. Get professional Adolescent depression and suicide are very real. They happen in the kids you least expect. Don't read their journals or blogs. Talk to the child in private frequently.. Make special time, but you must be there.

I grew up poor, with a single alcoholic parent. I knew by the time I was two (probably before) that I wasn't wanted or loved except by one of my grandmothers. I remember hating myself by the time I was five, but I was simply accepting the descriptions given at home: I was ugly, stupid, sneaky, so evil that no descent person would spend time with me, clumsy, etc.

In high school, I found a small group that had grown up and survived that same hell in their parents' houses. Emotionally, we were years older than our classmates. We'd learned to live without an emotional or financial safety net. While teens' moods are all over the place, we didn't suffer from true depression. We didn't discuss the hell we found with our parents because it couldn't hurt us.
Alive and Well (Freedom City)
Evaluation by psychiatrists for children at Prominent Ivy University medical center is $650 for the first session alone. No insurance accepted.
Miss Ley (New York)
She looks the portrait of sulks and moodiness, and it is a portrait by Leonardo da Vinci of Ginevra Benci, engaged to be married at 16 back in the 15th century. Resting on a desk, it caught the attention of a visitor who poked his finger at this copy and laughed. There was no need to say anything, but this young girl, her state-of-mind captured by this great artist, was depressed.

Growing-up in Europe in the 60s, as an adolescent, depression may have been less recognized at the time, based on my own observations and personal experience? Here's a fictitious environmental scenario for instance:

You are at boarding school, an outsider. Your parents are divorced and live in different countries. There is no alimony. You are not thinking of the future, but hoping that the fees for education will be paid. You feel like a burden to your parents, and you have no assets, a grubby wardrobe, no confidence, etc. It gets worse.

This is a classic sad-mop story. Then tragedy strikes and you are alone holding the hand of an adult. But your mind is already made up as to economic and social views, and you are planning to never depend on anybody.

Now. Whenever I see a teen looking downcast, it is rare that a case of the sulks comes to mind. This passage in life is also known as 'The Rebellious Years' and with some experience and maturity, an adult may be able to determine whether a teen is spoiled and manipulative, or needs guidance. Possibly all should be checked.
Candy (FL)
I'm a parent of a four year old who has been difficult all her short life-- raging tantrums of more than an hour, moodiness in the mornings, arbitrary requests that make no sense and send her into an obsessive spiral of thouhhts and actions, and desire to have things done her way all the time. We've literally felt held hostage. But at school and in social situations she has near perfect behavior. It has baffled us and made us seek help. A psychologist has shocked us with the news that she has depressive symptoms which manifest themselves differently in small children! I didn't know this existed. I don't want to be one of those parents who resent their kids for being so difficult and manipulative. The hope is that by identifying this early on we can provide the love and support she desperately needs and help her blossom into someone who can control her emotions. This prism is helping us cope with her-- that it's not her fault. Depression is also passed in the family and lurking there without being diagnosed. Imagine all this in a four year old, and now imagine this girl as a fourteen year old, ten years later, who feels unworthy of her parents love. This is my greatest fear, and I commend your readers for sharing their stories.
Gráinne (Virginia)
Love and support are necessary. Professional help is necessary.

Get a second opinion from another doctor, without telling that doctor there's a possible diagnosis of depression. With any shrink, the child must like that doctor enough to talk about things.

There are reasons beyond depression for such behavior. If the child controls him/herself rigidly at school, there is energy that must be used.

Look at your relationship with your spouse. Do you put the child in the middle of arguments? Has the child learned to play one of you against the other?

If those things are happening, you have a very confused, often out-of-control child. Therapy won't hurt the child, but both parents need therapy as well. You must agree on disclipining the child. If mom says no candy until after dinner and dad says let the kid have candy, the child will use that to get his way, disrupt life, and control both parents in many situations.

Children need consistency. A promise to a child is sacred. Promised rewards must happen (appropriate behavior shouldn't be the result of bargaining); promised punishments must also happen. A time out is punishment as 10 minutes alone in a room without electronics or books is an eternity to a 5-year old. No "I'm going to count to three." No means no, immediately.

If your marriage fails, don't stay together for the kids. If you separate, you must agree that if a child is grounded by one parent, the child is grounded by both. Grow up so your child can grow up.
1exwriter (Binghamton, NY)
I truly understand your concern, from my earlier worries about a daughter who in the long run turned out fine. Our (successful) strategy was based on total unity between my husband and me on EVERYTHING -- every issue and every concern, no matter how small -- from those earlier years, throughout her teens, and afterward. We always hung tight, and always kept reassuring her that we loved her. Looking back, we also modeled unshakeable love - for each other, and for all our children.
Billy Wilde (Utica)
It helps the most to limit our children's internet usage and increase their other activities.

Too much screen time independently causes depression. There is also a contagion factor with the internet--they are being encouraged to indentify normal feelings of sadness as a chronic illness and self-diagnose with depression or other mental illnesses. Sort of a tween/teen drama thing in part.

Some of these kids are genuinely depressed. Many are at risk. A problem I find is that if your kid says they are depressed, then they are automatically classified as depressed by anyone they say this to. However, when I take my kid off screens for enough time, my kid goes back to being a happy kid.

My kid's unhappiness and general sense of grievance about the world is greatly increased by the internet and various websites that romanticize/distort certain issues.

I still send my kid to a therapist. We err on the side of caution. I don't think the therapist helps. Spending time outdoors, with family, with supportive friends, and on useful and enjoyable activies (including art, music, and anything that makes kids laugh--including cartoons) has remarkably beneficial effects.

Our culture backs kids and parents into a corner by labeling certain human struggles as medical issues while also encouraging or enabling a way of life that simply isn't good for us. I'm not knocking treatment. I'm only saying for some kids it may not be the main solution. Being a kid can be hard in many ways.
Francesca (tucson Az)
I've been a school counselor and clinical counselor for my entire adult life and have taken seriously the suicidal expressions of thousands of teens. I preface my comments with that , because my comments may seem simplistic but they're based on experience. I believe that a lot of the teen anxiety and depression is the result of saturation with electronics. The growth of video games, social media and every kid having access to the web through their phones, leads to isolation, feelings of worthlessness and a lack of community accomplishment, like the old fashioned kind you get from participating in a group in which your morals are developed and tested in real, not virtual life. I see parents jumping to psychiatrize their kids' problem behavior by blaming it on anxiety , depression , or the ubiquitous ADHD. Instead of making their kids responsible for their actions, they blame it on a "disorder" and then expect schools to follow suit. How about this: telling kids they're acting badly and you expect them to shape up. Telling them that the reason they got a bad grade is because they didn't do the work, not because they have some disorder they have no control over. Taking their electronics away permanently and having the whole family figure out how to talk to each other. Expect them to accomplish things, do chores, and give of themselves to others. May lead to more satisfaction, less depression and anxiety.
Billy Wilde (Utica)
I believe you have experience--but it seems like experience interpreting children's behavior in a condemnatory way rather than experience that gets beneficial results.

Do you really think saying "you are acting badly. Shape up!" will cause a child who is displaying unhappiness to suddenly no longer feel suicidal?

If the suicidal teen feels bad in your office because of a bad grade you say--'well, it's your fault, you did not do the work.'

That seems completely unlikely to have any beneficial effect at all. It may negatively impact the parent-child or teacher-child relationship however, which will not be good for the child.

If the child has electronics and then you take them away because the child is displaying unhappiness, do you think the child will magically do better? (I do agree electronics aren't good for children.)

Some children who do the work get bad grades anyway.

This is an article about children who are sad. Don't children who are sad deserve compassion and understanding? Do you think blaming sad people for everything that they struggle with will make them less sad?

Showing concern for a child does not undermine the child's ability to be responsible--just the opposite, in fact. If you show concern and kindness then suggestions you make are much more likely to be received and to have an impact. Why listen to someone who doesn't appear to care or understand how you feel?
BetsyBetz (Chicago)
On Friday nights and Saturday mornings and more often in the summer, I will put away my teenagers' iPads and phones and guess what happens? We hang out and talk.

I agree with the psychiatrist that parents need to listen to their kids, but only if everyone (including parents, who can be as bad as the kids) unplugs.

I don't think we can say definitively that being hooked on electronics causes depression, but it doesn't help, and it's definitely not healthy to be plugged in all the time. Hey everyone--unplug, get outside, and spend time together without your devices.
Learned Sceptic (Edmonton Alberta)
I watch with horror at the way children are often raised these days. They are not being allowed to go through the confidence building experiences that were taken for granted in my day: walking to school, entering the school alone and placing themselves at their desk, riding a bicycle, chores, values training (church, synagog, temple etc) and going to the playground without adult supervision. The level of control I see many parents exercising over their children will not allow them to grow to maturity.
No surprise that they end up being an immature depressed anxious lot.
Sandra Tuckerman (Florida)
As an adult with depression I can see how I suffered in my teens. I wish I hadn't waited until I was 56 to get the meds I needed. No one is to blame, just the depression that I suffer from. No body asked or noticed if I was ok. It was a different time.
Billy Wilde (Utica)
This might be true. However, I think the media also exagerrates this.

I think it happens at a later age. We could walk to school starting at 5 but many kids don't do that until they are 8 or even older.

They eventually do all these things. There is a delay. It isn't so much parental choice but rather a very strong social norm not to let a 5 year old walk to school alone. If you do this, people will lose their minds.

I do everything possible to make my kid responsible and independent as do most of the parents where I live but there is simply no way to replicate my own childhood, which involved what now appears to people to be an outrageous amount of freedom and responsiblity.

Parents today also have to exercise control over the internet and this is something past parents didn't have to deal with.
AS (Manhattan)
I don't disagree with your observations per se. I do, however, disagree with your conclusion(s). It's doubtful my walking alone to school played a role in the onset of my anxiety or depressive disorder. Get real
Elizabeth Guss (NM, USA)
Identifying depression - or any other mental illness for that matter -- is only the very tip of the iceberg when it comes to dealing with adolescents and, especially, with older teens.

When a child reaches eighteen years old, a parent faces additional adversity in attempting to help with mental health challenges -- At 18, a "child" is legally an adult, and absent a court order, his/her mental health is no longer a parent's legal concern. This does not mean parents cease to care and worry about a kid when s/he becomes an adult, but it does mean that intervening in children's lives will probably end if there has been the usual parent-child combat over issues of counseling, medication, mood, etc. So unless the lines of communication have been carefully cultivated in a loving, respectful, and trusting way throughout the teen years prior to the "magical" 18th birthday, this can be a very hard adjustment. When your child suffers from depression (or other mental health issues) a loving, respectful, and trusting relationship can be hard to achieve ad maintain, but it is worth every effort.

We do have to keep asking the right questions, over and over and over again. Talk to your kids. Listen to your kids. It's worth every word.
Stephanie (Charlotte, NC)
I suffered severe and persistent depression from age 12 until my mid 20's. My high school years were excruciating, and my parents shrugged off my state and behavior as an unwelcome teenage phase. What I would have given for someone to take note of my suffering, and how I wish I had had the language or maturity to reach out for help. I didn't have a name for it, just a bottomless well of darkness that I was told was merely an unsavory phase I would grow out of. It wasn't until after a suicide attempt at 22 that I learned I had an illness and that treatment was available. Today I live with great joy and gratitude in my heart, but I still weep for the little girl I was.
Judy Giovangelo (Boston)
This article suggests that the rise in teen suicide and depression among our youth is rising! What should we do? Is listening enough? Is not limiting their cell phone use and getting them into therapy the answer? Perhaps these are only part of the solutions! What other solutions can we think of? Have you tried mind body practices? Creative expressions of emotions through journaling or painting? Long deep breathing while holding a CALM DOWN Jar? Getting off the computers and out in the fresh air and sunshine? Let's keep this conversation moving. Our kids lives depend on it! www.benspeaks.org
Margaret (St. Paul, MN)
After my family was exposed to a serious dose of toxins, which triggered profound behavioral changes, including depression, I got a Masters in forensic psychology in an attempt to help my two teen-aged daughters. A few things I learned: One was the importance of testing to see if your child can metabolize prescribed medications. Many medications, including SSRI's, cannot be metabolized because a very sizable percentage of individuals do not have the correct enzymes to break down some drugs. Food allergies can also trigger severe depression. We need to open our minds as to what we're looking at when we consider causes of depression. Why do teenagers, particularly females, have greater rates of depression than in the past? Does this correspond with why approx. 80% of people with autoimmune disease are female - and that rates of these diseases are also increasing? At any rate, kids today are living in a very different kind of chemical soup than older generations experienced, and young brains - which are relatively delicate - need our protection and concern.
Megan (Santa Barbara)
If depression is rising in children, we need to look at child-rearing practices, particularly from birth to age 5. These are critical years for children to learn how to manage their emotions, and how form bonds with trusted others.
Flip (tuc. az.)
Couldn't agree with you more. At four years old I was screaming at my mother to get a divorce when I didn't even know what the word meant. At five I had put my fist through a glass window cutting my wrist. And I have been struggling with depression and self worth all my life. Those first five years are critical for the mind, sense of security, the emotional sobriety of the child that gets taught beginning at birth. Deny them this fear and anger get hard wired into their "DNA" so to speak. And if the child doesn't get help for this along the way, they join the walking wounded and will have a much harder time reaching their full potential, while having a greater chance of reaching for substances to self medicate.
Kari (NW)
Fifty percent of all mental health conditions emerge by age 14. There is often a biological predisposition that runs in families, and the confluence of major developmental processes during this period exhaust adolescents, and require maximum use of neurotransmitters to support development. If there is a predisposition for less-than-optimal neurotransmitter levels, or a lack of efficacy in how the brain utilizes neurotransmitters at a time when the brain needs them the most, this often sets off the chain of events that emerge as a mental health crisis.
Further, the serious lack of readily available skilled providers who take insurance compounds and lengthens the crisis, making it that much more difficult for effective treatment when it does become available. Additionally, the lack of empathy and education by some families and larger society is another layer of trauma that truly posits adolescent mental health as a major human rights and health crisis that demands prioritization, resources and education.
There are a plethora of TV ads, providers and insurance for male ED, but none for a life-threatening and growing problem for vulnerable youth.
This is a pervasive problem that many families are silently and very painfully overwhelmed by. Those who comment that this crisis is overblown cannot possibly have accurate information or relevant experience to understand the scope and severity of the problem.
Elizabeth Guss (NM, USA)
I find myself wishing that half (or more) of all those "ED"and "BPS" commercials -- among others -- were used for public service spots about critical issues like depression / suicide prevention; sexual assault / date rape; counseling for grief and loss (i.e., for kids in divorce, widows/widowers); resources for the disabled; etc.

We have become a culture in which money is everything, but so many members of our society have so little that they are effectively excluded from participating in society in a meaningful way. Even where there are resources available, many times the people for whom the resources are intended do not know of their availability, have no idea how to access services, etc.

I don't think it has always been this way. I recall seeing public service announcements for VISTA and Pace Corps when I was a kid. There were also ads about food surplus from USDA (it was before food stamps), Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts, various community groups needing volunteers or who offered services, etc. Whatever happened to that kind of stuff??
Katz (Tennessee)
We had a family tragedy when my daughters were ages 10 and 5--my parents were hit and killed by a drunken driver. That year I made a serious mistake: I refused to allow my older daughter to start taking Prozac for the serious anxiety she developed. I didn't want her to think you could take a pill for grief.

At 14, she developed anorexia. She almost died that year. Finding the right team of doctors and therapists to help her was really hard, and we live in a major metropolitan area with a university medical center, where we could choose among eating disorders specialists. There was a period of six months when our lives mainly involved going from one treatment appointment to another. Over the next 3 years, there was steady improvement. She regained her health and graduated from high school and college on time. She will always struggle, but each year, her life gets better. When my younger daughter suffered a severe anxiety attack at 14, I was better prepared and found it easier to find a treatment team. My older daughter views her need for psychiatric treatment and meds as a failing. My younger daughter views them as a form of support she needs because of a biological predisposition to depression and anxiety.

My (admittedly unscientific) theory is that the hormonal thunderstorms of adolescence hit some people much harder than others. I hope parents can learn from my experience and make sure their children get the resources they need to cope.
Mom of Three (New York City)
I'm so sorry that you gave all been through so much. I hope it's smooth sailing from here on out. Not easy.
Elizabeth Guss (NM, USA)
I hope you do not blame yourself for your daughter's illness. While prozac may have helped her deal with grief at age 10, her not taking it probably had no bearing at all on her developing anorexia nervosa at 14. It's likely that the anorexia was more a consequence of her feeling that she could not control things in her life and so chose to control her weight/food. I believe you are 100% correct that everyone experiences adolescence differently -- some suffer tremendously and others seem to breeze through unscathed. It is a mystery why, but your daughters are blessed to have a parent who pays attention to their needs. How fortunate they are to have you.
everywoman (Seattle)
Even now that I am in my thirties, my father still likes to poke fun at my "teenage angst". This is unfortunate, because he referring to my full blown, decade-long eating disorder. This included cutting myself, which my parents knew about. They didn't have the skills with how best to deal with depression and anxiety in their child; they still do not. It wasn't until I got to college, with its mental health services, that I was diagnosed and treated. College mental health services saved my life. But to my father, my "issues" were of garden variety moodiness, not the life-threatening condition that it was. We need to find a way to give parents the emotional skill set for listening, watching, and caring for their teenagers.
Kay Tee (Tennessee)
You'll never get what you want from your father. This is true for most of us.
person (planet)
That's awful, everywoman. I'm sorry. I'm glad you got help.
debussy (Chicago)
Some parents will NEVER be able to develop that skills set. It's not in their makeup and they are psychologically unfit to be parents. I understand, as my own father was among them, and it can result in emotional abuse physical abuse and general child neglect. I hope you start to feel better about yourself as you age. Sometimes, it takes many more decades to heal that damage. And sometimes, it takes a parent's death to release you. Take care of yourself.
PO (Pennsylvania)
When you report that the "risk of dying by suicide was as high as the risk of dying in a traffic accident" for children aged 10 to 14, you neglect to mention that the only reason for this is that the rates of death due to traffic accidents for this age group has declined exceedingly dramatically. The rates of suicide have not risen. Moreover, the number of children committing suicide is so low, that, while each is a tragedy--particularly for parents and loved ones--it is barely a blip on the radar screen in terms of mortality. Finally, children of this age rarely die of any cause (at least in developed nations not torn by war), so claims such as "suicide is now the second leading cause of death among children" refers to very, very few deaths. Presenting "stand-alone statistics"--numbers without figures to compare them to--is a meaningless and often misleading practice.
Mary Anne Cohen (Brooklyn)
This article explores teenage depression but makes short shrift of how prevalent eating disorders and body image dissatisfaction can be among teens. As part of a comprehensive evaluation, teens should be asked if they binge, diet, excessively exercise, hate their bodies, use diuretics or laxatives. Depression + eating disorders go hand in hand.
The New York Center for Eating Disorders
www.EmotionalEating.Org
Susan Anderson (Boston)
Listening, indeed!

We've forgotten silence, a great gift to all.
velocity (chicago)
A 14 year old whose grades dropped considerably, who no longer plays the sports he always loved as a child, who never sees friends outside of school, who is so isolated his family can't go out to eat, concerned his parents greatly. They took him to two therapists. One wanted to do behavior modifications, like putting stickers on a chart when he communicated about school, or helped with the dishes. The chart disqualified therapist #1 and the boy became emotionally hostile to therapy. The second therapist thought the behavior was all in the range of normal. When the parents expressed concern about the temper and the isolation, the therapist said to call the police if any aggression erupted. he pediatrician has no idea, the therapists have no skill, and the parents have no help. They hope to celebrate their child's graduation from high school.
Houston Puzzler (Houston)
They need to keep searching for the right therapist. It took us several to finally find one that clicked. Child has made incredible strides in the 7 years since.
Lisa (NY)
Several years ago, when my husband and I needed a marriage therapist, we didn't hit the right one until the fifth try. Therapists are not fungible. Keep trying until you find the right one. Do the therapist in-person vetting interviews alone, without your teenager present, so that you do not put him through the revolving door during the initial selection process. Then see if your choice is right for him.

Do not disregard the possibility that medication may be appropriate and helpful. Read up on the subject, then consult with a well-regarded child psychiatrist.
Bismarck (North Dakota)
Teens are moody by nature but there is a real difference between the blues and serious depression. My kids all had the blues from time to time but never did they tip over into a major depression. There is a magnitude of difference between the two. Blues is just that, feeling morose, lethargic and generally the feeling or mood passes. Depression is much deeper, longer and can make teens unrecognizable. If you see the latter, get them to a doctor or psychologist. Over medication is a concern but an ethical doctor won't treat unnecessarily. A psychologist can't prescribe medication so maybe that's the starting point. It's serious stuff and teens are notoriously impulsive, so if you suspect depression, please act on it.
Susan Anderson (Boston)
They will also fake stuff for attention.
Lisa (NY)
Susan, it's tough to fake depression. I wouldn't be too worried about being hoodwinked by my teenager in that regard.
debussy (Chicago)
No one "fakes" depression! It's a mental illness. You clearly know little about that or you wouldn't make such specious statements.
Teresa (<br/>)
When I was a teenager, I sometimes felt sad for no reason I could figure out and felt very frustrated. One day, my dad noticed and said that it looked like I had a case of the blues. I questioned him and he said that sometimes there are days that we can be sad for no reason, just like sometimes a simple thing brings joy. That simple answer freed me from feeling as if I was alone and different, and I told this story to my son when he came to me feeling moody and not understanding why. Sometimes we all need permission just to feel sad for a little while without examination. It often passes and too much attention to it can exacerbate the situation. Especially among those of us who are champion introspectors.
mary (Massachusetts)
In many cases that may be all that is needed. but for some teens the symptoms are much deeper and attempts to normalize depressive sx cause the teen to feel more self loathing at perceived failure to manage ordinary life. No one response is the always correct and only necessary intervention. To attribute mood changes to 'attention getting' or to deliberately ignore ongoing sx adds to the hopelessness of a person experiencing depression. Lack of hope for relief of pain or for future happiness is precursor to suicide attempt. The first one can be successful, unfortunately.
jeanette (chicago)
Thank you Theresa. This approach should be part of our list of life skills.
Brunhilda (Ontario)
I agree with you -- to a point. I am glad your father told you it's okay to feel sad sometimes, because sadness is a true feeling that comes and goes, sometimes without any apparent reason. We could say the same about happiness, sometimes. But it's also important to notice when those sad feelings seem to be hanging around longer and longer, and getting stronger and stronger. It's healthy to know that life carries with it many emotions, but it's just as healthy to recognize that some of the darker ones need more attention sometimes.
NM Gargon (New York, NY)
Unfortunately, some comments here are not based on scientific findings. To claim that young people 'suffer from over-diagnosis and over-medication' is irresponsible. I suggest these naysayers search the internet for evidence of untreated depression in young people from sources such as the NIMH, the Four-Community MECA study, and the ECA studies. Evidence supports the prevalence of untreated depressive disorders in youth. Furthermore, among young people who exhibited depressive symptoms, there are higher risks for suicide and for depressive disorders in adulthood, compared to those who did exhibit such symptoms during youth.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
@NM Gargon: I never said there was no actual depression or mental illness in teens, but some folks here are claiming it is HALF OF ALL CHILDREN. That's irresponsible and can't be true. It's similar to the way that today, fully 1 in 5 boys are determined to be "ADHD" and put on Ritalin or similar drugs! Yes, a small number of children are ADHD, but NO WAY can it be 20% of all boys.

Those studies you quote -- the very people who DO THE STUDIES, design them and carry them out -- are the ones who would eventually profit from patients, books published, patents on drugs -- especially patients who end up on lifetime meds, or seeing a therapist twice a week ... forever. So their findings WILL BE self-serving. They should be viewed with skepticism.
dan (Fayetteville AR)
Concerned Citizen, I will certainly agree that there's plenty of self interest and conflict of interest, but there's also plenty of people who flatly ignore good science.
NM Gargon (New York, NY)
This is a resubmission. The first one has a mistake.
NM Gargon
New York, NY Pending Approval Unfortunately, some comments here are not based on scientific findings. To claim that young people 'suffer from over-diagnosis and over-medication' is irresponsible. I suggest these naysayers search the internet for evidence of untreated depression in young people from sources such as the NIMH, the Four-Community MECA study, and the ECA studies. Evidence supports the prevalence of untreated depressive disorders in youth. Furthermore, among young people who exhibited depressive symptoms, there are higher risks for suicide and for depressive disorders in adulthood, compared to those who did NOT exhibit such symptoms during youth.
bioggio (luganO)
Psychotic illness begins in adolescence and early adulthood. Depression and substance abuse aren't the only psychiatric problems parents need to be educated about. Psychosis---needs to be in the discussion!
Lisa (NY)
It's hard to miss psychosis.
bioggio (luganO)
Unfortunately Lisa, it can be very difficult to recognise psychosis. When a teen seems withdrawn, irritable, has failing grades in school- it looks like "depression." An adolescent often doesn't tell his parents very much. Very difficult to know what the problem is. Getting early treatment can help! Usually schizophrenia comes on slowly, and is subtle, before the first "episode" or "pschotic break." They even have a diagnosis called "ultra high risk for psychosis." People can actually recover from psychosis---that's another story.
BostonGail (Boston)
Commenters here have identified many of the right concerns; long wait times to see a therapist, over eagerness by the medical profession to lean on drug from an early age. However, Concerned Citizen has a solid point that can be heeded much earlier than the teen years- parental involvement. The enormous increase in checked- out caregivers, pushing infants and toddlers in strollers while focused on their phones. Social media is the pacifier of children from middle childhood into teen years. Screen time is creating an isolation chamber with all the wrong messages for a developing mind, yet the increase is exponential. Now, we are witnessing the exponential problems that come from inattention and lack of attachment.
Ed (Old Field, NY)
Parents have to be there to listen, with the understanding that what teenagers tell their parents is rarely the whole of what they want to say and that their parents may not really be the ones teenagers want to tell it to. If they’re angry at someone, they become depressed, because they cannot or will not tell the person, and so take it out on others.
Northstar5 (Los Angeles)
Over-diagnosis and over-medication are the real problems, and if you take your teen to a psychiatrist, the odds are they will come out of there with a prescription for brain-altering drugs that may well create a lifelong dependence. Read the book Anatomy of an Epidemic and you will see what I mean.

We should all be alarmed -- and outraged --- at the rush to medicate young brains despite a dearth of evidence and data, and despite indications that the drugs often make things worse and turn temporary problems into chronic ones. Of course some people genuinely have disorders and should have meds. But not nearly the number who are actually getting them. Stop experimenting on teenage brains and realize that emotional pain is usually normal and really does usually pass.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
I wish more people thought like you do. I agree. Very often "help" makes things much, much worse. I know a man of 56 who has been seeing his "psychologist for therapy" since he was 23 -- he isn't any better, but he sure is dependent on the drugs and twice a week visits that tell him he's fine, and it's the world that's the problem.

A SMALL number of children have genuine mental disorders like severe depression or anorexia or schizophrenia -- but most discussed here are just going through "teen blues" or being crushed by "social media" and unrealistic expectations at school and in society to be perfect, popular, very thin or athletic, get all As, get into the best Ivy League schools and so on. They get caught up in little soap operas at school, aided & abetted by smartphones and constant texting and Facebooking, and pretty soon they cannot unhook. They become the victims of their own aspirations, where the slightest failures are tragedies you can never overcome.

Most kids simply need to be left alone -- to have some time to dream and think -- creative outlets -- time spent OUT OF DOORS -- unhooked from electronics -- loving parents, relatives, some religious or faith-based support (ANY religion) and friends who are not electronic shadows on a phone.

Parents today are often neglecting their kids for their OWN socializing on smartphones, their own romances or divorces or "drama". All too many parents today are really "kidults" who never grew up themselves.
LenK (New York)
I agree there is way too much over medication and quite a profit motive involved. At the same time, there is a very real problem. People resort to self medicating- illegal drugs and alcohol or other compulsive behaviors.
A certain level of emotional pain is normal, but being suicidally depressed is not. What can be done? Nutritional strategies and social support. Kelly Brogan MD is one who may have a good approach.
hen3ry (New York)
How many families can afford to pay for therapy? And how many insurance companies have the right providers for teens on their rosters? It's not easy to get any sort of mental health care in America unless you can pay out of pocket for it because the insurance companies don't like paying for it and the coverage is not equal.
city lady (Chicago)
So so so true!
Tracy (Sacramento, CA)
I second this. Many mental health providers are small and just don't want the hassle of dealing with insurers, but this makes mental health treatment something of a luxury good. We are spending just under $400 a week for therapy for our depressed teen. We can swing that for awhile especially with the aid of pre-tax medical savings accounts, BUT the vast majority of folks cannot. Our insurance covers most local psychiatrists, but for therapists the people who are highly recommended are almost all private pay only.
Katz (Tennessee)
Before the affordable care act, both of my daughters and I were uninsurable except through an employer group insurance plan because we have all taken antidepressants. The fact that any "mental" diagnosis, regardless of physical cause, might make you uninsurable is a terrible disincentive to seek treatment--which the ACA resolved by stopping insurance companies from declining to cover people with "pre-existing" conditions.
India (<br/>)
I find it very troubling that we appear to be having more and more mental health issues with young people. Universities have had to expand their mental health services to a level previously not seen. High school students on on psychiatric drugs. What on earth is going on today?

Have our children not learned how to cope with stress and disappointment? Are they all drama queens? Is this attention seeking from parents who are often very busy and disengaged?

Something VERY wrong is going on.
Maureen Basedow (Cincinnati)
They might be diagnosed before the child kills his or herself these days. There is also more testing in schools thanks to NCLB. It's all good in that regard. You may not have noticed, but parents are more likely to be stressed and disappointed in an America where so many have no hope of attaining their parents' standard of living, where there is less job security, stagnant wages for the past several decades, and exhaustion from overwork. That contributes to the atmosphere a child grows up in. Either way, you seem to want to blame someone very badly, but the kids themselves and the parents would not seem to be the correct targets.
Houston Puzzler (Houston)
I'll assume these are genuine questions. The something "VERY" wrong is (in my opinion) society and it's emphasis on looks and wealth. Technology is not helping as much as it hurts, I think. So no, I don't think the kids are drama queens or unable to cope. I suspect you have no children yourself.
Jaime Grant (Washington, DC)
I find it very troubling that serious issues are discounted as 'drama.' My kids are growing up in a very small world where the suffering of others is brought to their doorstep every day. if our children are curious and empathetic they have discovered that we are in a state of endless war and the adults around them are hypocritical liars. We claim to be a great land of opportunity and yet we are champions of aggression all over the world. They are headed to massive debt and very competitive job markets. They can't buy homes in the cities their parents have lived in unless those parents are millionaires. Our kids are't drama queens. They are depressed about the state of the world, as well they should be.
seEKer (New Jersey)
This does appear to be an epidemic. My non-scientific observation is that at least half of my teenagers' close friends are clinically depressed. Some of them are being treated for it, and others are afraid to tell their parents about it for various reasons and are unable to get treatment on their own.
It is a large cross-section of teens too, from high school students to college students to kids in the workforce. Both males and females. I would say that cyberbullying is an unlikely culprit here. Substance abuse may be present in a couple of cases, but not the others. This issue has been bothering me for a while, so many great kids struggling with depression.
One good thing is that teenagers nowadays are very familiar with what depression is. They talk about it and support their friends going through tough times, it is a part of life for many. However, not that many of them communicate to their parents about it.
Maureen Basedow (Cincinnati)
As a HS teacher, I can assure you the cyberbullying extends beyond anything we may have experienced as children and teens. In a study at my urban school, the average student sent 200 texts a day. There is no control over the 'phones in the schools I taught in. The texts could harass, could be used to set up fights, could threaten and, as we know from the press about some suicides at least, kill. I am not being anti-tech here, but now that we have this situation, we have to meet it head-on, not pretend it doesn't exist.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
@Maureen Basedow: what you said. And I am not "anti technology" or I would not be typing this on a computer hooked to the internet! But I also don't spend all day staring at a phone or on Facebook. I am deeply, deeply troubled with how most teens and even young children use technology today -- NOT to play, NOT to learn -- but to carry on miniature soap operas with peers, ramping this sort of thing up to 100 times what any of us remember from our teen years.

I just had dinner this evening, with an old friend and her 12 year old daughter. The child did not lift her eyes from her $700 iPhone (latest model) the entire time from when we picked her up school, in the car, a few stops at stores and then dinner at a fun, pleasant restaurant (her choice!). Literally...did not...take her eyes...from the phone. She was embroiled in some mini-drama from school -- 7th grade, private Catholic academy -- yes, it was Valentine's Day. But this goes on every day. She sleeps with her phone. She takes it to school, even though school policy forbids it. She says "just let them try to take it from me". She's addicted, and she is not alone -- my own grandkids do the same.

So what can adults do? ANYTHING you do 200 times a day is a serious addiction problem!
dan (Fayetteville AR)
Hmm, there must be a law I haven't heard about that provides legal entightlement to mobile phones for children REGARDLESS of parental choice.
Sorry, but parents have a responsibility to monitor mobile phones especially for young children.
Don't want responsibility? Then don't have kids.
Waleed Khalid (New York / New Jersey)
It would be interesting to see the correlation between economic problems and teenage moods- the basis of this would be that teens are looking towards their futures and getting messages, either positive or negative, and feel hopeful or depressed. It makes sense to assume that lower economic outlooks would cause teens to become depressed as they are not looking forward to a life a more problems that they cannot solve without tremendous effort- effort they shouldn't really be expected to have to do.
Eli (Tiny Town, Idaho)
The nearest mental health clinic to me has a waiting list of six months and doesn't take insurance at all. Treatment starts, emphasis on starts, at 150$ for each one hour session.

What are people like me supposed to tell kids when there's no accessible help for them even when we know something is wrong? "You can have a one hour counciling session or the family can have a weeks worth of food?"
kaleberg (port angeles, wa)
Get the heck out of Idaho. Sure, it has beautiful scenery, but it's a cesspool of extreme, dysfunctional, right wing governance. As a result, there is no adequate medical care for anyone in large parts of the state, and even in the cities, there is no affordable medical care for the uninsured or the underinsured. This is what the good citizens of Idaho voted for when they put Butch Otter and his fellow Republicans in charge of the state and rejected Obamacare. People die from easily treated conditions in Idaho, and if you don't want your kids to become statistics, get out of that state.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
@Eli: the answer for most kids is NOT mental health counseling, but simply loving parents, supportive siblings and other family members (grandparents especially). Church or other outside organizations like Scouting are outlets as well.

Look at the COMMENTS here from so-called "experts" -- your child must have a smartphone or they can't connect with peers? If that's the kind of advice you get for $150 an hour, you are better off without it.

For many children, the problem is BULLYING: get your child off social media, unhooked from electronics and AWAY from the bullies (if you cannot shut down the bullying) -- yes, even if this means changing schools, private or parochial schools or home schooling. And I say this as an adult, but one who grew up bullied in school back in the "olden days" when it required no technology at all.

@kaleberg: SHAME ON YOU for politicizing this. People are not all going to leave Idaho to live in Washington State, and you should pray god they don't, because if "everyone" lived where you did, it would be a crowded, overpriced nightmare.
Brigitte (MA)
You sure took the opportunity to bring your political views into the discussion! So, what, we go to 49 states?