So Trump shows he can behave when there's an adult (PM May) in the room.
"The early meeting is important for Mrs. May, Mr. Meyer said, because “she can put in a British fix on the things that bother us — NATO, Putin, security, trade.” and Mrs. May's goal is “to meet face to face and establish a personal relationship that leads to an effective, productive working relationship, not just in the interests of the U.K. and the U.S., but facing the many global challenges where we can work together.”
I'm not seeing any compelling reason for why May chose to reach out to Trump based on this report. Given Trump's personality, which I think Jeremy Shapiro understands quite well, May should take a wait and see approach. Trump considers himself a king; he'is a master exploiter; and, he has never answered to anyone including a board of directors. Trump as president holds most of the cards, but the only chance you have of getting a fair deal with him, is if he comes to you because he needs something.
Trump wants to lead a kingdom, put up borders and make everyone kowtow to his excellency. That will never work! I firmly believe that America's plutocrats are the ones who can rein in Trump. Their combined financial power and influence will be superior over Trump's financial interests. May and Pena should give the plutocrats time to get Trump on board and part of the program. Remember, it's all about the money - nothing else matters.
I'm not seeing any compelling reason for why May chose to reach out to Trump based on this report. Given Trump's personality, which I think Jeremy Shapiro understands quite well, May should take a wait and see approach. Trump considers himself a king; he'is a master exploiter; and, he has never answered to anyone including a board of directors. Trump as president holds most of the cards, but the only chance you have of getting a fair deal with him, is if he comes to you because he needs something.
Trump wants to lead a kingdom, put up borders and make everyone kowtow to his excellency. That will never work! I firmly believe that America's plutocrats are the ones who can rein in Trump. Their combined financial power and influence will be superior over Trump's financial interests. May and Pena should give the plutocrats time to get Trump on board and part of the program. Remember, it's all about the money - nothing else matters.
What's interesting is this idea of having a mandate to enact radical change. Both Trump and Theresa May trumpet this. Yet, her UK Conservative only won 37% of the vote in the 2015 election. What mandate do they have to push Brexit? If she think she does, she should call an election on Brexit. Similarly, Trump got 46% and lost by 3 million votes. He has no mandate. He has power but he has no mandate.
Across the Western World, there's no mandated rejection of the current situation that is demanding radical change. There is slight upset and politicians only have approval to make small course corrections. Politicians who say they've won stunning mandates and push ahead radical change are lying autocrats controlled by special interests. These two are perfect examples.
Across the Western World, there's no mandated rejection of the current situation that is demanding radical change. There is slight upset and politicians only have approval to make small course corrections. Politicians who say they've won stunning mandates and push ahead radical change are lying autocrats controlled by special interests. These two are perfect examples.
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Good luck to Mrs. May if she honestly thinks she can set British-American relations on a "more traditional track" as there is nothing tradidtional about Donald Trump -- which is hardly surprising, given the fact that he has no real knowledge of World history.
But even more amazing is the fact that both Mrs. May & Mr. Trump are the direct results of populist movements, that may, or may not be as popular as they once were -- now that it's starting to come down to Dollars and Pounds.
While they can hold hands together over the threats of Muslim immigration and terrorism, the honeymoon will end when the talks turn to NATO and Russia's role on the world stage, as Mr. Trump is still inclined to say "Nyet" when it comes to any criticism about himself, or Mr. Putin.
At least the bust is back.
But even more amazing is the fact that both Mrs. May & Mr. Trump are the direct results of populist movements, that may, or may not be as popular as they once were -- now that it's starting to come down to Dollars and Pounds.
While they can hold hands together over the threats of Muslim immigration and terrorism, the honeymoon will end when the talks turn to NATO and Russia's role on the world stage, as Mr. Trump is still inclined to say "Nyet" when it comes to any criticism about himself, or Mr. Putin.
At least the bust is back.
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Ronnie and Maggie, meet Donnie and Terri. There should be a musical for this charming couple.
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Not an odd couple at all. Both are into the law and not politics and both are against socialism. Britain wants nothing to do with Europe. The Brits I know feel Brexit is the best thing to happen to them. Long live capitalism.
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Export more of our fast foods; import British teeth!
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Prime Minister May has praised Trump. How terrible! The media should immediately denounce her as racist, misogynist, nationalist, islamophobe and deplorable.
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May demeans herself and her country by proceeding with this US visit when the new president is barely installed and chaos reigns in the White House and on Trump's Twitter account. On the other hand, Britain's self-made catastrophe of breaking from its major trading partner, the EU, was ushered in by demagogues like Nigel Farage. So at least she should be comfortable with the demagogue in the oval office. It's familiar territory for her.
I read in these pages that Mr. Obama advised Ms. May to hew closely to Donald Trump, apparently to maintain the "special relationship" between the two countries. I was stunned by his advice as it is exactly what Bill Clinton urged Tony Blair to do during W's presidency. And how did that work out for "Bush's poodle"?
I read in these pages that Mr. Obama advised Ms. May to hew closely to Donald Trump, apparently to maintain the "special relationship" between the two countries. I was stunned by his advice as it is exactly what Bill Clinton urged Tony Blair to do during W's presidency. And how did that work out for "Bush's poodle"?
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Trump to Teresa May:
"what do I call you, I want you to be happy..."
"what do I call you, I want you to be happy..."
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Hardly an odd couple. I am curious to why Trump & May are perceived this way. She is every bit the spotlight seeking, ambitious at all costs, individual that he is. They make a great pair. I've heard she fancies herself as another Maggie Thatcher and wishes to see her play to the Donald as a Thatcher/Reagan duo revisited.
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Eventually, each of the nations President Trump deals with will realize his was absolutely truthful when he said everything is negotiable. A deal can always be re-negotiated, any time he decides he doesn't like the deal any more.
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Trying to conjure up Churchill's ghost is not going to help May. The British leadership still live in this alternative reality, fooling themselves that Britain is still a significant world power. It's pathetic. It wasn't, even in Churchill's era. He actually agreed to give up the British Empire in return for America's help in WW2. That is how strong a leader he was. I doubt that Trump gives a fig about him. If you compare the sizes of the two economies any trade 'deal' is going to be very one sided. Despite what he says if Trump has an affinity for any country it's Scotland which voted against Brexit.
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What a jaundiced comment. You are wrong in your comments on so many points that to try and educate you about historical and political reality would be a major task. All I can see if your poisonous views are representative of nothingmore but your ignorance.
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At Last Mr. Trump has buttoned his suit jacket. Can we infer he actually cares about how he is perceived by the UK?
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Ms May - I fear you are foolish to put any eggs in DJT's basket. He will use you for photo ops, just as he used Mexican President Pena Nieto and just as he used Mitt Romney. He will take the first opportunity to embarrass you. Dump him before he does the same to you. Catch the first plane home.
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Churchill knew that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor. The Brits din't share this info because they knew that it would bring the USA in the war.
The only true friend the US has is us, dumb boring Canucks.
Somebody should say that to Trump.
P.s: We realy don't like Putin.
P.s 2 : The Time should have a look at our new minister for external affairs. She's a very interesting person.
The only true friend the US has is us, dumb boring Canucks.
Somebody should say that to Trump.
P.s: We realy don't like Putin.
P.s 2 : The Time should have a look at our new minister for external affairs. She's a very interesting person.
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So, the United States is once going to follow the "special relationship" with the Kingdom of Great Britain to the exclusion of Mexico and Europe? Does any one remember we declared independence from Great Britain? "The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States." Rule Britannia? So we followed it into WW1. We stood behind its imperialism until it had no colonies left to rule? And now, we follow it out of the world with Brexit? Is a common language Trump all other considerations?
You're the reason why we Americans abroad have to hide our heads.
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One party thinks free trade is killing them, the other party wants to become a tax haven, if they lose the single market access.
What exactly would free trade look like, between those two?
What exactly would free trade look like, between those two?
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They will be convenient partners. That's politics. What is said and what is enacted are often, very different things.
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The author states that Nigel Farage is 'the former leader of the anti-immigrant U.K. Independence Party'. While I am not a UKIP fan, please note that the party purports to seek control on immigration and does not seek all immigration to cease. There is a difference.
I wish Trump and May well in their talks today, I hope they find common ground and build a strong working relationship. May is fairly well regarded over here and although not elected as PM by the electorate I believe they stand behind her - she is head and shoulders above the other Conservative contenders.
I wish Trump and May well in their talks today, I hope they find common ground and build a strong working relationship. May is fairly well regarded over here and although not elected as PM by the electorate I believe they stand behind her - she is head and shoulders above the other Conservative contenders.
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Why would Theresa May be "supplicant" ? She commands a party with 60pcnt support. Additional leverage comes in the form of upcoming elections in Holland and France which will further break the EU apart and drag it to its knees plus the German/Italian banking system is extremely fragile with rumblings of systemic, national risk. Oh, and remember Greece, that problem has not gone away, only now Bulgaria, Portugal and even France may have serious financial problems in the horizon. May will be very relaxed. Donald Trump on the other hand has very few friends beyond his national sycophants and needs some more friends in the yard. He won't be stupid enough to destroy a relationship that can help him undo the European Union. Reading this message board makes realise how isolated my compatriots can sometimes be.
As for those posters who confuse Brexit with Trump, think again.Brexit was a vote to extricate Britain from a good idea that was being badly managed by self interested bureaucrats. The EU delivery mechanism is flawed. Brexit is not a rust belt revolution, it's a reflection of a badly run organisation. Trump on the other hand, is one of two, extremely poor candidates, with nothing between them on the "slime scale".
As for those posters who confuse Brexit with Trump, think again.Brexit was a vote to extricate Britain from a good idea that was being badly managed by self interested bureaucrats. The EU delivery mechanism is flawed. Brexit is not a rust belt revolution, it's a reflection of a badly run organisation. Trump on the other hand, is one of two, extremely poor candidates, with nothing between them on the "slime scale".
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Exactly right. May is not anti-EU. Quite the opposite. Firstly, she voted for Britain to remain a member of the EU; and secondly, she wants to see it get its house in order so they it DOESN'T unravel.
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Facts please: In the 2015 UK general election (turn out 66.1%) the conservative party won 36.9% of the vote - not 60% as you have stated. The conservative party only hold a majority of 12 seats in the UK parliament.
Unlike Mr Trump, Theresa May has no mandate and is an unelected UK prime minister
Unlike Mr Trump, Theresa May has no mandate and is an unelected UK prime minister
The UK doesn't vote for personalities, it votes for parties. The Conservative party has every right to remain in power until the statutes state the next election must be held (2020), under whichever leader the party chooses.
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A friend in Trump? Nope, not unless May is willing to give in to our boorish President. He's enthusiastic for bilateral agreements. But the UK is going it alone without the heft of the EU, so in Trump's mind the US must win and the UK will take what he chooses to give.
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So...what if following the meeting, Trump announces with his usual bravado that he's gotten incredible deals for the US but PM May claims the opposite. Then she goes to Mexico and strikes new trade deals, partnerships, etc. with the South-of-the border US neighbor.
Eventually Trump will find out that the world is NOT a binary environment.
Eventually Trump will find out that the world is NOT a binary environment.
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Perhaps the saddest thing about Mr. Trump's accent into the White House is the appalling crassness that he and his family bring to that glorious house. No matter what you think about their politics, the soaring intelligence and easy elegance of the Obamas and the quiet decency of the Bush's has been replaced by ravenous greed, tantrums, glitz and tawdriness. For the first time in my life I am ashamed to be an American.
With a president and First Family who bring to mind Juan and Evita Peron far more than Jack and Jackie, the White House has been buried under a landslide of crudity and vulgarity unprecedented in my lifetime. It's not just the orange skin and pink hair and pouting, infantile bluster of this childish president, it is a wife who promotes her jewelry line at her husband's inauguration and robotic children who seem terrified of their father and whose only interest seems to be the accumulation of more wealth.
It's a sad and ugly time in America, and it breaks my heart.
With a president and First Family who bring to mind Juan and Evita Peron far more than Jack and Jackie, the White House has been buried under a landslide of crudity and vulgarity unprecedented in my lifetime. It's not just the orange skin and pink hair and pouting, infantile bluster of this childish president, it is a wife who promotes her jewelry line at her husband's inauguration and robotic children who seem terrified of their father and whose only interest seems to be the accumulation of more wealth.
It's a sad and ugly time in America, and it breaks my heart.
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When you get an opportunity, write a commentary on the NYC mayor, if you can be objective. Can I ask a question? How much did Bill and Hill give you with the $600 million that they fleeced from the American people? Btw would you comment on the $66 million collected by CGI, when will the Haitians receive the money. It's been FOUR years. Thank you!
The overwhelming acrimony by the so called intellectual community, breaks my heart.
Theresa May is pressing this notion of her relationship with Trump being the equivalent of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher's relationship.
While she may think that she's freeing up the British economy by leaving the EU like Thatcher did with her push towards Denationalization of government institutions, there's scant economic evidence of that.
But, how is Trump like Ronald Reagan? Instead of "Morning in America", he said its Mourning in America. Rather than appreciate the threat of Russia and coalesce NATO as a counter to it, Trump wants to ally with Russia over our long term western allies. Rather than asking Gorbachev to "Tear Down that Wall", he's creating walls against neighbors. He's talking about trade tariffs and exiting treaties while Reagan was consistent in his economics. Reagan had experience of governing, Trump does not.
The only time Republicans think of Reagan is when they want to lower taxes for the wealthy. I guess that's where the similarity with Trump is. Not to forget Reagan too, like Trump, was a minor actor.
I'm no fan of Reagan, but "if the glove doesn't fit"...
While she may think that she's freeing up the British economy by leaving the EU like Thatcher did with her push towards Denationalization of government institutions, there's scant economic evidence of that.
But, how is Trump like Ronald Reagan? Instead of "Morning in America", he said its Mourning in America. Rather than appreciate the threat of Russia and coalesce NATO as a counter to it, Trump wants to ally with Russia over our long term western allies. Rather than asking Gorbachev to "Tear Down that Wall", he's creating walls against neighbors. He's talking about trade tariffs and exiting treaties while Reagan was consistent in his economics. Reagan had experience of governing, Trump does not.
The only time Republicans think of Reagan is when they want to lower taxes for the wealthy. I guess that's where the similarity with Trump is. Not to forget Reagan too, like Trump, was a minor actor.
I'm no fan of Reagan, but "if the glove doesn't fit"...
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I'm afraid your first paragraph undermines your entire argument. Theresa May has not drawn any such comparison with Reagan-Thatcher. Rather, it was Trump who said "She's my Maggie". Like her or loathe her, she wouldn't stoop to such a crass comparison and she CERTAINLY wouldn't prejudge such a relationship before it's even begun.
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Has it ever occurred to Mr. Trump to think before he speaks? This lashing out at everyone is really dangerous on so many levels, not just economically. Boy do I miss the dignity and restraint of the Obama administration. These people have no class.
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Tony, tell us how much you miss the apology tour, along with the 1221 speech Mr O gave that accomplished nothing. 'Class' really, seriously! ISIS cuts the head off a US journalist Mr. Class plays golf. . Please tell me the last time you posted a cognitive thought. Thank You
I used to be able to tolerate just about anyone -- I've even shaken the hands of two Illinois governors -- but these days, my stomach recoils at the thought of setting down for supper at the same table with either Trump or May.
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This should complete the division of the world into Eurasia, East Asia and, now, Oceania. And by the way, Eurasia has always been our friend. East Asia has always been our double plus enemy.
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Sounds like another Neville Chamberlain moment. "Good luck with all that!"
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Neville Chamberlain could have been a world savior.
Just think, if he had remained PM through 1940, and had told Lord Halifax and FDR to take their war plans against Germany and "shove it", and instead accepted a conditional peace plan with Hitler after the Dunkirk debacle, there would have been NO absolute destruction of Europe, NO tens of millions slaughtered, and NO trillions spent by American taxpayers on the Cold War against the commie Bolsheviks.
Indeed, it was Churchill who stated "that Germany had to be totally destroyed" (to eliminate British Empire economic competition and for Hitler's failure to use House of Rothschild national and international to finance Germany's economic recovery).
Just think, if he had remained PM through 1940, and had told Lord Halifax and FDR to take their war plans against Germany and "shove it", and instead accepted a conditional peace plan with Hitler after the Dunkirk debacle, there would have been NO absolute destruction of Europe, NO tens of millions slaughtered, and NO trillions spent by American taxpayers on the Cold War against the commie Bolsheviks.
Indeed, it was Churchill who stated "that Germany had to be totally destroyed" (to eliminate British Empire economic competition and for Hitler's failure to use House of Rothschild national and international to finance Germany's economic recovery).
Here we go again. First we had W Bush and Tony Blair get us into a crazy, bloody, useless, expensive war with false information. Now we have Trump and May. Oh brother.
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Perhaps she will present Trump with a boxed DVD set of Russian kompromat, thanks to M16, in which he is the star. As a starting point for further negotiations.
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I'd be willing to trade the British one Donald Trump, one Mike Pence, one Paul Ryan and one Mitch McConnell for one Theresa May and one Gina Miller.
Deal?
Deal?
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No deal. You couldn't even get a Nigel Farage for those.
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@SH
But my beloved brother my first known European ancestor was born in London in 1613 before being married in Lancaster County the Virginia Colony in 1640 where he died in 1670.
Based upon DNA genetic testing my closest match is to English men currently living in Southern England.
What if I throw in Rafael Cruz and Marco Rubio?
And we take Elton John, Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton?
But my beloved brother my first known European ancestor was born in London in 1613 before being married in Lancaster County the Virginia Colony in 1640 where he died in 1670.
Based upon DNA genetic testing my closest match is to English men currently living in Southern England.
What if I throw in Rafael Cruz and Marco Rubio?
And we take Elton John, Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton?
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PM May's approach to Trump feels like a mixture of naivete, bad advice and ignorance. Perhaps she is looking over her shoulder at Farage who by all accounts will be in the political game for a long time or she seeks to become to Trump a bit like what Thatcher was to Reagan.
No one has been able to predict Trump's next attack against anyone anywhere except Russia and Israel. I wonder to what extent May is getting her cues from Trump's inner circle like Bannon, Flynn or the Trump family? Reminds me a little of H. R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman who formed that nasty shell around Richard Nixon and were always ready to turn Nixon's angst into retaliations.
No one has been able to predict Trump's next attack against anyone anywhere except Russia and Israel. I wonder to what extent May is getting her cues from Trump's inner circle like Bannon, Flynn or the Trump family? Reminds me a little of H. R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman who formed that nasty shell around Richard Nixon and were always ready to turn Nixon's angst into retaliations.
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Actually, you have just described May: naivete, bad advice and ignorance. Her most worthy attributes!
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Haven't you caused enough heartache with your convoluted thinking and voting habits. I can't remember the last time you wrote a commentary that possessed a scintilla of intellectual acuity. Abe stick with predicting the next world series between the Brooklyn Dodgers and NY Giants. Remember to tell, Mayor D'b he's doing a great job. WA AH
"Mrs. May is determined to put British-American relations on a more traditional track" “But May would like to hear that from the horse’s mouth.”
She's on the wrong track, and she's getting the other end of the horse.
She's on the wrong track, and she's getting the other end of the horse.
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Never trust The British.
May may seem on the surface to be coming from a different place but rest assured the Brits haven't had so easily molded puppet in the WH since reagan and they will take full advantage of Trump as they did reagan to get whatever it is they want these days. By the pulling out of the EU it seems pretty clear they are focused on trying to rebuild the Empire into what it was before WWII. They don't need to govern the colonies as long as they control their economies, after all colonialism was about money.
May may seem on the surface to be coming from a different place but rest assured the Brits haven't had so easily molded puppet in the WH since reagan and they will take full advantage of Trump as they did reagan to get whatever it is they want these days. By the pulling out of the EU it seems pretty clear they are focused on trying to rebuild the Empire into what it was before WWII. They don't need to govern the colonies as long as they control their economies, after all colonialism was about money.
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Trump is going to meet with May on Friday so that he can more easily give away the store to Putin on Saturday.
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The reality here for Prime Minister May, as for everybody else, is that President Trump walks in nobody's shoes except for his own. This will matter for her and for the country she leads, no less than for our own country.
www.endthemadnessnow.org
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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Trump is such low IQ person it’s unbelievable. He is short-tempered
and an dishonest business man, NEVER HAD EXPIRIENCE OF INTERNATIONAL POLICY.
Ignorance and arrogance have no excuse, but Mr. Trump will find one!
and an dishonest business man, NEVER HAD EXPIRIENCE OF INTERNATIONAL POLICY.
Ignorance and arrogance have no excuse, but Mr. Trump will find one!
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She made a big boo-boo by going straight to a Republican party retreat. Turned off most people. And the comparison with Thatcher-Reagan?? Give me a break. I remember Thatcher-Reagan and they're no Thatcher-Reagan! Even Thatcher-Reagan were not really T-R as fantasized ... due to their blindness to the oncoming radical Islamic terrorist threat (Marine barracks bombing) and their rear-view mirror obsession with a Cold War that had already been won.
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Trump and May... two clueless, unpopular, and demagogic leaders desperately seeking "validation" from photo-ops with another "leader."
THIS is the state of leadership among two major world powers? Instead of Roosevelt and Churchill, we get this pair?
THIS is the state of leadership among two major world powers? Instead of Roosevelt and Churchill, we get this pair?
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Each day Donald Trump continues to simply do business and get things DONE to protect and SERVE the American people on a pace never before seen in the history of the presidency, the Times and the rest of the "liberal" traditional and MSM's never ending juvenile attempts to discredit and attack him, become more and more transparent and ridiculous, and their all time low CREDIBILITY sinks to dangerous levels. It's simply a counterproductive strategy, and one that I can only hope they ignorantly continue until they marginalize themselves completely.
In the meantime, What a PROFOUND DIS-service they're providing not only to to their many loyal readers, but to our nation. After a year and a half of relentless personal attacks and derision that has backfired on them EVERY time you'd think they would understand that it's time to move on, and that Donald Trump is actually the elected PRESIDENT of the United States...
In the meantime, What a PROFOUND DIS-service they're providing not only to to their many loyal readers, but to our nation. After a year and a half of relentless personal attacks and derision that has backfired on them EVERY time you'd think they would understand that it's time to move on, and that Donald Trump is actually the elected PRESIDENT of the United States...
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Do you believe SHOUTING your convictions, Bless Dog, will convince readers of their merit? Though the president would no doubt approve, many Americans consider shouting rude.
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Trump has signaled that he's going to rule by decree like the dictator of a banana republic. I don't know what his advisors have to do except hand him a pen. Congress might as well go on vacation because they are not going to be consulted. You don't know how lucky you are living in a country with a press that offers neutral criticism. Go to May's country England and see what the press is like - totally biased the whole time.
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Mrs. May is going to meet with Trump on Friday?
Excuse me but not before she appeared at the Republican Retreat. It was unseemly, to say the least, that the first appearance she makes in the United States of America is to a group of Republican political hacks. And why? To what end?
Shouldn't she have met the president first and then, perhaps, the leaders of congress (both parties)? That would be very British, very civilized and diplomatic.
Excuse me but not before she appeared at the Republican Retreat. It was unseemly, to say the least, that the first appearance she makes in the United States of America is to a group of Republican political hacks. And why? To what end?
Shouldn't she have met the president first and then, perhaps, the leaders of congress (both parties)? That would be very British, very civilized and diplomatic.
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Birds (insane though they be) of a feather fly together!
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May is only pretending to be willing to deliver hard advice to Trump. Instead she is selling out her fellow Europeans in the hopes Trump will extricate her from the problems which Brexit have posed. Oh perfidious Albion indeed.
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The trade between UK-US would no doubt be smaller than what the UK-EU was. It's also a massive political risk for Theresa May to be seen desperately groveling to Trump. Will it ultimately trigger another vote for Scottish independence? Angela Merkel has already said she would welcome those wanting to stay in the EU. Nicola Sturgeon will be seen standing "in defiance of tyranny", to quote Willam Wallace.
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I doubt Merkel has a redline to anyone in Indiana, but EU rules require new members to adopt the euro. Scotland wants to stay on the pound. That would be Britain's prerogative. Attempts to punish the UK will backfire, even if they get Scotland involved.
When will people learn that betting against a US-UK partnership is still a loser move? Only so much history has passed. If you want so desperately to be live in decline, you need to move elsewhere for the rest of the century.
When will people learn that betting against a US-UK partnership is still a loser move? Only so much history has passed. If you want so desperately to be live in decline, you need to move elsewhere for the rest of the century.
Actually you're quoting Mel Gibson as Sir William Wallace.
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46% of UK exports currently go the EU; 16% go to the US.
53% of UK imports come from the EU; 8% come from the US.
So yes from a trade point of view it would have made sense to try and sort things out with other European countries rather than alienate them. This cosying up to Trump is losing May what little credibility she still had with her European partners.
53% of UK imports come from the EU; 8% come from the US.
So yes from a trade point of view it would have made sense to try and sort things out with other European countries rather than alienate them. This cosying up to Trump is losing May what little credibility she still had with her European partners.
If May is looking to trump as a "friend" GOOD LUCK! He's a friend only when it suits him and he's so unpredictable and such a lier that you never know where he stands. May is better advised to try to buddy up to China, who at a minimum has adult leadership.
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Britain looks to be in a dangerous position with the self-induced Scylla of Brexit on one side and the Charybdis of Trump on the other. Realizing PM May's vulnerable position, one hopes she does not repeat the Tony Blair lapdog posture that got the UK into our Iraq quagmire and earned Blair the disdain of so many people.
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She must be desperate.
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Let's face it, if you pair any sane, coherent, well mannered human being with Trump, you're going to get an odd couple.
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The Elites of the EU wanted population movement between borders with wealthy countries such as Britain and poor ones such as those in Eastern Europe. This suited the economic and cultural needs of the elites by depressing wages for working class jobs in wealthy countries like Britain as poor from other countries came to the country. A similar problem happened here with illegal immigrants.
Economist Branko Milanovic's now famous "Elephant Curve" shows the results. The working class voter is right not to trust the elites.
Both Trump and May owe their leadership to the actions of the elites -- Republican, Democrat, Tory, Labor as well as main stream media -- ignoring the economic needs and suffering of the working class.
Economist Branko Milanovic's now famous "Elephant Curve" shows the results. The working class voter is right not to trust the elites.
Both Trump and May owe their leadership to the actions of the elites -- Republican, Democrat, Tory, Labor as well as main stream media -- ignoring the economic needs and suffering of the working class.
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Finally, after 8 years of insults towards them by Obama, we're friends again
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Mrs. May is but a temporary solution to the stupid, squalid position Great Britain is in since it voted to become Little England. When it suits him he will pick a fight with and mock her and there will go the grand alliance. No, this ignorant, malignant thing in the White House will destroy everything it can and everything it touches. Mrs. May is of small consequence in this as she is of small consequence in her foolish nation, where politics has come apart with ensuing disorder in its government and certain disappearance of what influence the peoples of the island had. Scotland is well advised to separate on its own terms while it can and that becomes more and more likely each day.
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Go away Ms. May. You are owned and operated by Rupert Murdoch and we are sick of him and pro-Trump media outlets.
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Both nations are hiding in a closet. One from the rest of Europe, the other from the rest of the world. How quaint.
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The "Odd Couple", indeed! The pair share the same path to power.
Neither of them was elected by their voters. May is one of just a handful of British Prime Ministers to have "inherited" the position upon the resignation of their predecesor, without being chosen in an election.
Given Trump's ignorance of things European, Today's visit will probably be filled with memorable gaffes and jaw-dropping statements.
Neither of them was elected by their voters. May is one of just a handful of British Prime Ministers to have "inherited" the position upon the resignation of their predecesor, without being chosen in an election.
Given Trump's ignorance of things European, Today's visit will probably be filled with memorable gaffes and jaw-dropping statements.
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Finally, a grownup in the room.
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Theresa's got 99 problems, and to expect Trump to throw her a lifeline, is the epitome of wishful thinking.
Some experts had posited that May would in some way seek to keep Britain in or near the single market. May foreclosed on that in her speech, showing far more courage than Boris Johnson, the British Trump (without the money) ever did. Trump and May are both seeking trade deals, but May can't consummate one until two years after article 50 is invoked, which hasn't happened yet. Trump, with his pathological short attention span, is hoped by May to craft a plan to commence two or more years hence? Good luck with THAT. Maybe by that time Trump will have stopped whingeing about the size of his inaugural crowd. Two years from now, May is likely as not to have been relegated to the Chamberlain memorial pile of discarded PMs.
Some experts had posited that May would in some way seek to keep Britain in or near the single market. May foreclosed on that in her speech, showing far more courage than Boris Johnson, the British Trump (without the money) ever did. Trump and May are both seeking trade deals, but May can't consummate one until two years after article 50 is invoked, which hasn't happened yet. Trump, with his pathological short attention span, is hoped by May to craft a plan to commence two or more years hence? Good luck with THAT. Maybe by that time Trump will have stopped whingeing about the size of his inaugural crowd. Two years from now, May is likely as not to have been relegated to the Chamberlain memorial pile of discarded PMs.
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Maybe in two years' time, Trump will have been impeached. One can hope.
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T(h)eresa Chamberlain. "I have in my hand a piece of paper from Mr Trump. He is 100% behind NATO. It means peace for our time…"
Maybe, maybe not. Indeed. Because Donald Trump is not a normal leader and views every encounter or relationship as a power struggle where he must have the upper hand, I think today's meeting does not portend well.
I will be interested to see if Mrs. May can knock some sense in him about NATO. Donald seems to delight in being the wrecking ball of Europe, and if he thinks at all about what is happening there, it's likely that he sees himself as the grand Pooh Bah of nationalism.
I hope Teresa May has her wits about her and keep her expectations low. Surely by now she must've read how mercurial our new president is.
The world is certainly headed in a brand new direction with unsteady hands on the tiller. Because Donald Trump doesn't read or study history, many of us are very afraid of where he is going.
He seems to be making the same mistakes that were made 70 to 80 years ago. I absolutely detest the fact that he is so susceptible to the words of Steve Bannon, whose agenda and thanking are anathema to many American values we have taken for granted.
I feel like I'm witnessing the end of our grand experiment in democracy, and no longer think American exceptionalism will be able to save the day as it has so often in the past.
I will be interested to see if Mrs. May can knock some sense in him about NATO. Donald seems to delight in being the wrecking ball of Europe, and if he thinks at all about what is happening there, it's likely that he sees himself as the grand Pooh Bah of nationalism.
I hope Teresa May has her wits about her and keep her expectations low. Surely by now she must've read how mercurial our new president is.
The world is certainly headed in a brand new direction with unsteady hands on the tiller. Because Donald Trump doesn't read or study history, many of us are very afraid of where he is going.
He seems to be making the same mistakes that were made 70 to 80 years ago. I absolutely detest the fact that he is so susceptible to the words of Steve Bannon, whose agenda and thanking are anathema to many American values we have taken for granted.
I feel like I'm witnessing the end of our grand experiment in democracy, and no longer think American exceptionalism will be able to save the day as it has so often in the past.
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Agree with all you said except "mercurial," which usually describes someone who is changeable -- yes -- but also light on the feet. Trump is more the lumbering bully in that you can see his new direction as he shifts his great mass.
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In the context I used it, "mercurial" refers to a very rapidly changing disposition, as quick as mercury in old-fashioned thermometers. I believe it's meaning is also emotionally volatile. Check it out on Websters.".
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Christine, it may well have been a distorted and twisted version of American exceptionalism that got you to this place. I have thought about the mental contortions required to vote for the orange one and it hurts my head.
Hopefully I am first to say this here...With friends like Trump, who needs enemies? You can't go wrong standing next to the biggest bully on the block.
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Too bad your fellow Schuylkill Countians voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Having family from there it's hard to believe they are so gullible. I doubt the coal mines are coming back soon.
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She has been roundly criticized and ridiculed in Britain for her seemingly sycophantic remarks in regards to this man and the illusionary 'special relationship.
May and her incompetent government have to realise that 50% of our trade is with the E.U. and not to antagonize them. Only 36% of the British electorate voted for the disaster that is Brexit and we will be mired for a decade in trying to entwine ourselves from it after 4 decades.
There will be no trade negotiations with the U.S.A., just demands for the removal of regulations which protect our workers and industry.
If she thinks for a second that we will accept that then she's going to be out of a job very quickly.
Did you really elect this man.....just what the world needs!!! An unhinged ego maniac.
May and her incompetent government have to realise that 50% of our trade is with the E.U. and not to antagonize them. Only 36% of the British electorate voted for the disaster that is Brexit and we will be mired for a decade in trying to entwine ourselves from it after 4 decades.
There will be no trade negotiations with the U.S.A., just demands for the removal of regulations which protect our workers and industry.
If she thinks for a second that we will accept that then she's going to be out of a job very quickly.
Did you really elect this man.....just what the world needs!!! An unhinged ego maniac.
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Yes, she actually said "your great victory" ... ! Does she not know that Trump and GOP are MINORITY rulers who got in due to antiquated electoral college and over-representation in Congress?
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If you have a "special relationship" with a pimp, you are a prostitute. Remember Neville Chamberlain? Another Brit who thought he was above the fray, and urged us all to keep calm and humor the fascist lunatic. We all know how that turned out.
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After bragging to May about his crowd size Trump will likely press for her to locate and punish the ex-MI6 agent Republicans hired to compile that damning dossier.
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Excellent point.
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Does it matter, these dreams from the pit! Is it possible that the politicians are all acting as if they have been programmed; being only actors who do not understand the play they are performing in? Are they like the people in Plato’s cave seeing only shadows and fantastical mirages? Has Donald Trump turned everybody into characters in an Indonesian puppet play? Am I going “ballistic” trapped in my own grim platitudes? Am I wrong because I seem to expect politicians to have more than a modicum of common sense? Are politicians little more than automatons wandering in the darkness? I ponder all these questions, bewildered by what I see happening in this post-Orwellian “dystopian” nightmare where nothing really makes any sense. Is there an up or a down anymore? Is the Western World simply going limp? Is it in a state of collapse? Has a new race of Vikings taken it over? Is there a dying of the light? Only questions without answers-- does any other scenario make sense? If I’ve gone “balmy” should I then consider seeking some explanation from a trained therapist?
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This will be interesting. I am wondering how Mr. We-Will-Tax-All-Imports will approach somebody who desperately needs new free trade agreements. This seems like the worst possible time for Ms. May to try to get free trade discussions started with the U.S.
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Well, @ John may I ask you a question? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? POTUS Trump was discussing a tax on
American companies that build offshore and bring products back to USA
for sale. Btw we've an import tax on the books.
American companies that build offshore and bring products back to USA
for sale. Btw we've an import tax on the books.
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SEPIII, it's helpful to set the record straight with hard facts. Constitutionally, POTUS cannot single out specific companies for this tax or for any other tax. Additionally, he cannot single out any one single country over another, i.e., it's either a tax on ALL countries´imports or none. The tax itself will be paid for by the American consumer, NOT by the Company or country involved.
It looks to me like you have a very serious reading comprehension problem. Perhaps some research into this subject could be helpful therapy.
It looks to me like you have a very serious reading comprehension problem. Perhaps some research into this subject could be helpful therapy.
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Whoa, SEPIII, it you who needs to re-read. "Free trade" has a particular definition -- and taxing imports (from Mexico or elsewhere) does not meet the definition. Get it now?
Mrs. May have a Twitter account. I wish NO politician of any stripe had one!
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Theresa May will be meeting with a man who actively promotes Russia's influence over Europe. She's definitely smarter than him - let's hope she puts that intelligence to work.
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Reference was made to the much hyped relationship between Reagan and Thatcher. Well, Theresa May is no Thatcher. She comes to the US as a supplicant...weak-kneed despite the bluster.
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May says Trump's victory makes America stronger. She has no credibility left.
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I really want to know, if Trump asks about the comments, made by Boris Johnson, about Boris Johnson not going New York because he might meet Trump in the streets.
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Good luck to Prime Minister May. She appears to be both smart and resolute. She has had fair warning after a week of chaos, insults and craziness in the White House, so forewarned is forearmed. Trump has business interests in Great Britain, so maybe they can talk about his golf courses, and get through this visit unscathed. Her problem will be at home. Tony Blair became Bush's "poodle" and if President Trump is allowed to run roughshod over Prime Minister May, she will face catcalls in Parliament when she returns. Big danger: Trump trashes the EU and congratulates May on Brexit (which she did NOT support).
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Watched PM May's address to GOP retreat yesterday
Conclusion .. Trump is over his head when compared to PM May
And I (as I expect many in attendance) wondered how we could trade up and get her in exchange for Trump .. Just watch .. She will eat him for lunch
Conclusion .. Trump is over his head when compared to PM May
And I (as I expect many in attendance) wondered how we could trade up and get her in exchange for Trump .. Just watch .. She will eat him for lunch
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She is hamstrung by the fact that she can not make a deal that goes into effect until Article 50 is triggered and takes full effect, at least two years out. And smart as she is, she can hardly account for both Trump's pathologically short attention span and his complete inability to honor commitments. She will expect him to both remember and honor any agreement they come to two years from now? Well, good luck with THAT.
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There is a big chunk of the UK population walking around with a phantom limb called "The British Empire". It doesn't exist anymore and no amount of Churchill nostalgia will bring it back. There is a chunk of the US population suffering from a similar delusion with regards to America's place in the world. Get over it. You no longer run the show. As the Belgian singer, Jacques Brel once put it "Il n'y a plus d'Amérique".
There is also a big part of the conservative party suffering from post-Thatcher withdrawal symptoms. Those afflicted with this disease see Theresa as Krishna to Maggie's Vishnu. But other than the fact that they are both Tories and both women they are not remotely similar. Thatcher took the UK into the single market, negotiated an extremely good deal with the rest of the EU and built an excellent relationship with Ronald Reagan. Theresa May has pledged to take the UK out of the single market and has succeeded in alienating her support on the European continent - no-one forced her to appoint Boris Johnson as her foreign secretary. Now she will alienate a chunk of her own support in the UK by groveling to a man who is rightly seen as a racist, a sexist and a duplicitous narcissist.
In a way I am glad that these two are busy building walls and making their respective nations great again. It will allow the rest of us to get on with real work like climate change, building the new economy and coping with the growing migration crisis.
There is also a big part of the conservative party suffering from post-Thatcher withdrawal symptoms. Those afflicted with this disease see Theresa as Krishna to Maggie's Vishnu. But other than the fact that they are both Tories and both women they are not remotely similar. Thatcher took the UK into the single market, negotiated an extremely good deal with the rest of the EU and built an excellent relationship with Ronald Reagan. Theresa May has pledged to take the UK out of the single market and has succeeded in alienating her support on the European continent - no-one forced her to appoint Boris Johnson as her foreign secretary. Now she will alienate a chunk of her own support in the UK by groveling to a man who is rightly seen as a racist, a sexist and a duplicitous narcissist.
In a way I am glad that these two are busy building walls and making their respective nations great again. It will allow the rest of us to get on with real work like climate change, building the new economy and coping with the growing migration crisis.
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I'm with the original Brexiters, if you will. The Brexit of 240 years ago, namely the American Revolution.
The people that started this country knew England and its monarchy very well and broke away from it.
Since Reagan (as in Reagan / Thatcher) and his acceptance of a knighthood from them after leaving office, the American Revolution has been slowly diminishing in my view, and the so called "special relationship" with England has replaced it. Not by me, but in general.
The people that started this country knew England and its monarchy very well and broke away from it.
Since Reagan (as in Reagan / Thatcher) and his acceptance of a knighthood from them after leaving office, the American Revolution has been slowly diminishing in my view, and the so called "special relationship" with England has replaced it. Not by me, but in general.
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We're back to the Thatcher and Reagan days, and if de Gaulle were alive, he could say, I told you so! I.E., little UK, lose your banks to Europe, drop out of the world's largest and richest trading bloc, and run to Donald for help. Sounds like were going backwards, not looking to the future, and if you only connect the past to the present, well, you'll never get to the future. But England has always wavered on Europe, so it's really time that Europe push them out in the cold for good; and there's no privilege place for a country who consistently overvalues its station in the word. Not a beacon of World Order, in fact, outdated in their outlook; saved by Russia and America in WW II, and not to be an antique relic of the Victorian Era; wake up!
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What will Theresa May do when Trump starts talking about his inauguration and crowd size to her, and he shows her all of the photographs of his inauguration trying to convince her he is right.
When do you remember a President or even a politician always have to keep interjecting in interviews about how he's really a smart man or how big the applause he received or how great he will be.....it's narcissistic , weird, odd, insecure, trying to pump up his own self-esteem.
Trump keeps repeating the same nonsense about himself, like he has to prove he's greater than anyone or everyone.
Anyone who saw him obsessing over the crowd size and showing David Muir the photographs of his inauguration, and trying to convince him, or himself that the crowds were the largest anyone has ever seen is not right in the head!
Think about President's like FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, Clinton.....any of them, even Nixon with his paranoia, didn't have this weird constant impulse to brag or prove he's better or greater than anyone else.
Trump is an oddball and doesn't belong with the nuclear codes without supervision.
When do you remember a President or even a politician always have to keep interjecting in interviews about how he's really a smart man or how big the applause he received or how great he will be.....it's narcissistic , weird, odd, insecure, trying to pump up his own self-esteem.
Trump keeps repeating the same nonsense about himself, like he has to prove he's greater than anyone or everyone.
Anyone who saw him obsessing over the crowd size and showing David Muir the photographs of his inauguration, and trying to convince him, or himself that the crowds were the largest anyone has ever seen is not right in the head!
Think about President's like FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, Clinton.....any of them, even Nixon with his paranoia, didn't have this weird constant impulse to brag or prove he's better or greater than anyone else.
Trump is an oddball and doesn't belong with the nuclear codes without supervision.
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The EU was a doomed project right from the beginning. The industrious Germans, the Slothful Italians and the Avaricious Greeks could never live together and the Germans have spent the past 10 years bailing out the Greeks, Italians, Portuguese, Spanish and the Irish. It is only German guilt for the World War II and the Holocaust that is keeping them from giving up. Kudos to the British for bailing out of this doomed ship before it hits the iceberg!
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Rahul, you like your stereotypes, don't you? The smell of prejudice is discomforting even from here in London, UK. We don't need your praise, it's like being kissed by a known pervert.
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"Avaricious Greeks?" You clearly don't know any. The richest of them, think Onassis, Niarchos and the lot, are no more avaricious than Trump, maybe significantly less so.
Most Greeks are incredibly industrious. Think of all the 24 hour diners here rin by them.
I married into a Greek family. All incredibly hard working and honest. Much more so than Orange Julius Caesar. My wife's cousin, in Athens, worked for an Economic newspaper, for the last five years without getting paid. He lost out eventually, as did his subordinates. His boss? Think of a Greek version of Andrew Puzder, fighting a welter of wage and hour violation suits, as Walmart also did.
Most Greeks are incredibly industrious. Think of all the 24 hour diners here rin by them.
I married into a Greek family. All incredibly hard working and honest. Much more so than Orange Julius Caesar. My wife's cousin, in Athens, worked for an Economic newspaper, for the last five years without getting paid. He lost out eventually, as did his subordinates. His boss? Think of a Greek version of Andrew Puzder, fighting a welter of wage and hour violation suits, as Walmart also did.
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The Germans (through the troika of the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the IMF) have bailed out imprudent and avaricious German, French, Dutch, Italian and British BANKERS who lent money, for example, to the Greek government and its citizens, and are now punishing the borrowers by imposing on them economic misery, called austerity. This is to support a doomed phantasy called the euro. If in doubt, just read Joseph Stiglitz's recent and magnificent book on all this.
Odd couple in deed. Ms. May is a daughter of a Church of England vicar and a graduate of Oxford University. Good luck to her and Britain. If she learned anything from Bush-Blair, don't follow the US into war. Save yourselves along with the Queen.
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Trump is NO Ronald Regan & Theresa May is definitely NOT Margaret Thratcher. It is unlikely there will a chemistry between two.
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"Trump is NO Ronald Regan & Theresa May is definitely NOT Margaret Thratcher."
Perhaps May is not a Thatcher. She was, however, hatched from the same clutch of rotten eggs as the evil one. May brings new offerings to America, our health service, a reinforced extradition treaty (the UK routinely hands over its citizens to the US with the minimal of judicial oversight or publicity) and much more besides from a downsized pot.
Perhaps May is not a Thatcher. She was, however, hatched from the same clutch of rotten eggs as the evil one. May brings new offerings to America, our health service, a reinforced extradition treaty (the UK routinely hands over its citizens to the US with the minimal of judicial oversight or publicity) and much more besides from a downsized pot.
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HOW would someone like you know this? Do you know each of them personally?
"HOW would someone like you know this? Do you know each of them personally?"
If you are replying to me 'barb tennant' obviously I did not know Thatcher personally. However, I have lived through and with the consequences to my country of action taken by her regime. Theresa May is a member of the British Conservative Party, as was Thatcher and Winston Churchill.
If you are replying to me 'barb tennant' obviously I did not know Thatcher personally. However, I have lived through and with the consequences to my country of action taken by her regime. Theresa May is a member of the British Conservative Party, as was Thatcher and Winston Churchill.
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The earliest trinity, of interest; is Roosevelt-Stalin-Churchill; we united, after a fashion, to fight the naz; and we won; (The Rus did the heavy lifting.)
Fast forward, and we have Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John, to fight the Rus; we won, BUT it was a close run thing, as Wellington said of Waterloo; on our side, two were shot and one was bombed;
Our next partnership: Trump, and May, and not the Pope;
Our enemy is the new Naz, the Muz; and so the next trinity, is Trump, May, Putin;
We CAN learn from history;
if we choose;
as for the Mex? we'll se how that plays out;
I think it was Porfirio Diaz, president of Mexico, 1916, who said - poor Mexico, so far from god and so close to the United States;
Nothing new here.
Fast forward, and we have Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John, to fight the Rus; we won, BUT it was a close run thing, as Wellington said of Waterloo; on our side, two were shot and one was bombed;
Our next partnership: Trump, and May, and not the Pope;
Our enemy is the new Naz, the Muz; and so the next trinity, is Trump, May, Putin;
We CAN learn from history;
if we choose;
as for the Mex? we'll se how that plays out;
I think it was Porfirio Diaz, president of Mexico, 1916, who said - poor Mexico, so far from god and so close to the United States;
Nothing new here.
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"Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John" provided great fanfare as the Cold War ended, but they did NOT end it or win it. It had already been won by previous presidents. Meanwhile, Reagan and Thatcher failed utterly to see the looming radical Islamic threat. Reagan ignored Marine barracks bombing and funded radicals in Afghanistan. The truth is hard to take from those who revel in the fantasy.
Yes, they are the odd couple, still they can get along. But there are some major disagreements between the two. Theresa May is a proponent of free trade and globalization. Trump is all "Buy American, hire American" For Tump NATO is obsolee , for Theresa May NATO is important. Still some points of agreement between the two. They agree on immigration issue.Theresa May claimed that a significant number of asylum seekers were "foreign criminals" and argued immigrants made society less "cohesive." Trump and May will find a common ground there.
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Advice to Theresa May: Beware of teetotalers of Scottish origin. They are unstable and may fall onto you as they topple over.
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What is up with foreign leaders and partisan republican appearances? Enough.
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Fascinating how the UK in less than one generation lost it all: from a Colonial Power where the Sun never Sets to a Beggar.
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It's just embarrassing, such sycophancy. She's staked all on a quick trade deal and is willing to sell our public services and destroy great chunks of employment law & regulations in her (and the ghastly Colonel Blimps in her Govt) post-EU vision. They should have the guts to end the farce of Brexit, or at least seek a gentle version.
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If Trump had been the captain of the Mayflower, the Pilgrim passengers would have secretly hoarded food and water anticipating the inevitable environment of everyone fending for them self.
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May disagreed on almost all of Trumps "revolutionary" ideas. Hmmm. Perhaps we need a friend more than the UK. Two dying empires going down together . . . .
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I'm old enough to have read similar stories when other British prime ministers have met other American presidents for the first time: "poodle", "supplicant", etc. Another example, I think, of the stories that British journalists recycle over and over because they're too lazy to do real analysis. I'm sorry the NYT allows it on their pages.
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I am sorry, but I was embarrassed for the Prime Minister.
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It's about time we got over being impressed with an English accent and an Oxford degree. Real life is not another episode of "Masterpiece Theater," and David Cameron, Boris Johnson, and Theresa May are simply exotic versions of the bigoted, ignorant reactionaries that have come to dominate our Republican Party.
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Will Prime Minister May be wearing a groin cup when she meets Donald Trump?
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Mrs. May has already shown herself to be an incompetent, surrounded by other incompetents, on a par with the most top-level appointees in the nascent Trump Administration She is groveling to the insane Donald Trump. Worse than pathetic. No good news for the foreseeable future. Dismal, more dismal, most dismal.
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I think Theresa May will find out sooner or later Donald Trump and his word mean nothing, he changes like the wind.
Also a word of warning to Theresa May, watch your private parts, Trump likes to grab for the gold!
Also a word of warning to Theresa May, watch your private parts, Trump likes to grab for the gold!
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From a lay perspective, Trump is mentally ill. He can't be trusted. He lies incessantly on matters large & small and whether or not due to a mental pathology.
His staff/kids are unable/unwilling to stand up to him for the citizenry's benefit.
We cannot trust Trump, his staff or family to self-police.
ACT NOW - We the people need to be heard and take control.
Friday Trump proclaimed: “what truly matters is…this government is controlled by the people” – “the people [are] the rulers of this nation again” – “[this] nation exists to serve its citizens”.
So let’s not just comment here. Let's take him up on his declarations -- or call his bluff.
Luckily, Trump has not (yet) removed the Petitions page on the WH.gov website which now has a divestment petition and a tax disclosure petition to ensure he’s working for us not himself/family.
The First Amendment enshrines our right to petition the government.
Scroll https://petitions.whitehouse.gov to sign these 2 petitions demanding his divestment & tax disclosure.
As for the great urgency for Trump's divestment, read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-conflic...
Trump tells us "You learn very little from a tax return", so he needn't fret over tax disclosure. Methinks he doth protest too much.
We the people can not only comment & march, we may petition (& vote)!
His staff/kids are unable/unwilling to stand up to him for the citizenry's benefit.
We cannot trust Trump, his staff or family to self-police.
ACT NOW - We the people need to be heard and take control.
Friday Trump proclaimed: “what truly matters is…this government is controlled by the people” – “the people [are] the rulers of this nation again” – “[this] nation exists to serve its citizens”.
So let’s not just comment here. Let's take him up on his declarations -- or call his bluff.
Luckily, Trump has not (yet) removed the Petitions page on the WH.gov website which now has a divestment petition and a tax disclosure petition to ensure he’s working for us not himself/family.
The First Amendment enshrines our right to petition the government.
Scroll https://petitions.whitehouse.gov to sign these 2 petitions demanding his divestment & tax disclosure.
As for the great urgency for Trump's divestment, read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-conflic...
Trump tells us "You learn very little from a tax return", so he needn't fret over tax disclosure. Methinks he doth protest too much.
We the people can not only comment & march, we may petition (& vote)!
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Sad! Sad for May, whose name was btw, mispelled by the White House staff "....with the highest I.Q. ever," that she has to come to somebody like Trump, who embarrased her already on more than one occasion with Farage, and beg for a "special relationship." ( If it were so special, they would know the proper spelling your name, no? After all, you are "only" the current PM of the UK) As somebody has noted, she has to cozy up to guy wo can't get along with his peaceful neighbor Mexico, to start a trade war over the stupidity of a wall one week after inauguration, endorses torture, and sees any trade simply as net gain proposition. And all that after Mexico's presidentt canceled the meeting with small hands Donnie. And you are leaving the EU line up for that idiot? SAD! Take it from us, PM May, we got first hand experience right now: you only realize how good times were, once they are gone.....
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In the absence of storm clouds, this editorial is a rain dance. Anyone who listened to Prime Minister May's remarks in Philadelphia can see the potential for a wonderful partnership between Trump and the UK. She acknowledged the popular forces driving both countries as well as the special relationship between us. She spoke of the importance of sovereignty, respecting a role for multi-national institutions but refusing to be over-run by them. And, most importantly, she welcomed the revival of a strong, confident and prosperous United States as a force for good in the world.
Th internationalist progressives, who believe the world must be governed by a global civil society of unelected elites enabled by the UN and IMF, are praying that Trump and May fail. The slightest hiccup in this week's meetings will be reported as a foreign policy catastrophe. Those of us who are hoping for revivals in both nations believe that Trump and May are largely on the same page and are off to a very good start.
Th internationalist progressives, who believe the world must be governed by a global civil society of unelected elites enabled by the UN and IMF, are praying that Trump and May fail. The slightest hiccup in this week's meetings will be reported as a foreign policy catastrophe. Those of us who are hoping for revivals in both nations believe that Trump and May are largely on the same page and are off to a very good start.
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She has to cozy up, that's all. If Trump insults her in a tweet after the meeting (50/50 chance, he's an impulsive wrecker of alliances) or if he tries to exploit England's current vulnerabilities, he'll only be gratuitously hurting both countries. If he decides she's wonderful, maybe she can temper some of his most egregious notions. But I doubt that. It's Trump, anything can happen; you think that's good, I think it's horrendous. History will decide.
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Keep up your prayer vigils!
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You're living in cloud cuckoo land. Have you looked at his cabinet appointees?
Oligarch after Oligarch, half of Goldman Sachs, mad dogs and conspiracy theorists.
We'll be lucky if there is a world after 4 years.
Oligarch after Oligarch, half of Goldman Sachs, mad dogs and conspiracy theorists.
We'll be lucky if there is a world after 4 years.
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Finally the Churchill bust returns to the oval office and the leader of our greatest ally along with some practical ideology will hopefully get us on the right track again! Welcome & God Bless The United States of America!
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What exactly is the PM of Great Britain doing addressing a political meeting in the US. Do the Tories have an alliance with the Republicans?
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The kind of formidable challenges that need to be confronted require domestic and international unity. By Mrs.May and Mr. Trump emphasizing and exaggerating our differences, or so called exceptionalisms, rather than making a concerted effort to seek common purpose, can only result in faulty tower of Babble set to collapse on all of us,
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I find it rather amusing that the NYT seeks only one comment from a British journalist for the purposes of this article, and that one comment just happens to be from a columnist who writes for a newspaper that is relentlessly hostile to the Conservative government in the UK, loathes Brexit and everyone who voted for it, and will support almost every anti-American attitude and policy out there, regardless of merit.
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Please cancel your trip! We need a clear signal that other nations will not accept Trump as the leader of America!
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She got here yesterday.
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Cancel? Despite all the suggestion of nuance article goes on about, May's one of his allies.
She has Boris Johnson as Foreign Secret'ry, for Pete's sake! There's no light at the end of *that* tunnel.
She has Boris Johnson as Foreign Secret'ry, for Pete's sake! There's no light at the end of *that* tunnel.
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May shares some of Trump's agenda, and can't afford to distance from him. Horrible for her, I'm sure (she rather deserves it).
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Was her speech meant to flatter Trump? That they're both going to lead the world? It sounded delusional.
On the other hand, she has advice she wants to give Trump. Stay away from Russia, for example. Good luck with that!
May coming here seems to me a sign of weakness. To see the "resident"? Whose own sinauguration was trumped by the Women's March?
The Mexican President made the stronger move.
On the other hand, she has advice she wants to give Trump. Stay away from Russia, for example. Good luck with that!
May coming here seems to me a sign of weakness. To see the "resident"? Whose own sinauguration was trumped by the Women's March?
The Mexican President made the stronger move.
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Of course it was meant to flatter. May's no fool; it's pretty common knowledge that that's your best bet if you want to do any business at all with the narcissist. What we'll be seeing in the future from world leaders is that sort of ghastly effort on the one hand, and escalating defiance on the other. Cooperation is not something that Trump understands.
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Prime Minister May might want to continue her search for reliable friends elsewhere. Britain has got itself into a pickle just as we have with our president. Trump has everyone including Congress crowding around trying to get his attention and wagging their tails. It is quite a display. The Mexican president is the only one so far to stand up to the bully. In one week we have headed into the unknown and the journey has only begun.
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Many have compared the May and Trump couple to the Margaret Thatcher and Reagan couple. History is repeating itself with Britain feeling comfortable being closer to the USA than Europe even though separated by a large pond called Atlantic Ocean. If one listened to May answer questions in the British parliament just before departing to the USA, she seemed to have the steel of the iron lady Thatcher. She minced no words to make it clear that she will not sell Britain to the USA but together with the USA she hopes to be a powerful force in the new world order.
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The comparison is false. Thatcher took the UK into the Single Market which meant she could negotiate with Reagan as a near-equal, ie. she was representing the UK but also the rest of the EU. May is taking Britain out of the Single Market and out of the EU so she is in a far weaker position than Thatcher was and Trump surely knows it. All of this doesn't mean that the relationship is doomed to fail - neither the US nor the UK have many friends right now so they might enter into a marriage of convenience. But Britain will be a subservient partner in the relationship.
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I seriously doubt that using Donald Trump as an example of a "friend" outside of Europe is going to help her cause very much.
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As we now must say with apologies...with a friend like "it", who needs enemies?
Sad...etc.
Sad...etc.
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Trump, a friend, PM May, didn't you hear his speech--it is America first, now and always---that does not include England.
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"...that does not include England."
Not so; grovel enough with abject servility, toe the line du jour, demonstrate unswerving loyalty no matter the cost, and anything can be a friend of Trump's. Question is, will May---and England---make the grade?
Mexico didn't. Happily. Muy bueno, amigos.
Not so; grovel enough with abject servility, toe the line du jour, demonstrate unswerving loyalty no matter the cost, and anything can be a friend of Trump's. Question is, will May---and England---make the grade?
Mexico didn't. Happily. Muy bueno, amigos.
both got to power by fluke...and not popular vote...
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If we learn anything from this fiasco, we know see how important it is to vote in this country and what can happen when you don't think your vote is necessary or important!
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babasure.....both were elected by people that voted on the important issues!
If the USA had a popular vote for elections, you'd be speaking Spanish.
If the USA had a popular vote for elections, you'd be speaking Spanish.
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this prime minister is a class act. informative intelligent cautious thoughtful reticent pragmatic. qualities each citizen wants their leader to have in dealing with allies. this ahistorical man we have in charge frightens me with his obstinate persona and lack of decorum. he will meet his intellectual superior and the guy knows it.
headlines later this afternoon. tweets at 11
headlines later this afternoon. tweets at 11
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They're going to have to get along. Neither has anyone else save for dictators and oligarchs.
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Theresa May is exactly like Trump. She tried to run rough-shod over our Parliamentary process by attempting to invoke Article 50 without consent. She'll be selling off the NHS to the highest bidder. Her husband profits from tax avoiding companies, yet she preaches about stopping tax avoidance. Don't let her quiet appearance hide that she holds the poor in contempt.
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Christain...You realize .that you comments are being read by people, that know your commentary in Not True. Try posting why you disagree, rather than lying about FACTS that can be checked and have, by this poster! We have enough commentary from adolescents, try to be the adult in the room. Thank You!
SEPIII...You realize .that you comments are being read by people, that know your commentary in Not True.
Trump , May and Le Pen are a danger for the European Union; so they are a danger for the peace . Please , dear democrate Americans , dont forget the address of Omaha beach ; dont forget La Fayette . Dont forget the statue of Liberty by Gustave Eiffel .
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BTW: the Statue of Liberty was by the sculptor Bartoldi of Colmar, in Alsace, Eiffel did the metal construction.
Don't worry. A large majority of Americans didn't vote for him. Millions of citizens rallied against him. His approval rating is at 36%. The clown is going down!
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I didnt forget Bartoldi .
You know you are in a really bad position when your closest ally ends up being Donald Trump. Worse than Tony Blair.
And for Trump to put a bust of Churchill is ridiculous. The former is a simple speaking quasi-facist and the latter is a compelling orator that lead a country against Nazis and fascists. Does Trump think he is Churchill-esque or does he realize he's literally the opposite and the worst?
And for Trump to put a bust of Churchill is ridiculous. The former is a simple speaking quasi-facist and the latter is a compelling orator that lead a country against Nazis and fascists. Does Trump think he is Churchill-esque or does he realize he's literally the opposite and the worst?
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Churchill has been vastly overrated by History. Roosevelt was far more important--a decisive leader with the means and will to save Europe.
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...they do have the racism thing in common though,
Churchill was racist in the 1940s. Terrible even then but I'd give it a low pass as times and values were different. As Trudeau has pointed out, it is 2017. Whats Trump's excuse??
Whether Roosevelt or Churchill was more important to war efforts is not the point. This is a comparison to Trump who put a bust of Churchill up.
Whether Roosevelt or Churchill was more important to war efforts is not the point. This is a comparison to Trump who put a bust of Churchill up.
Theresa May should remember, as she tries to navigate a realignment of Britain's trade and interests away from the EU, that she and Britain may have a huge advantage: the Commonwealth. If Britain can rally Commonwealth nations around shared interests, Mrs. May won't have to kowtow to Trump. From Wikipedia: "The Commonwealth covers more than 29,958,050 km2 (11,566,870 sq mi), 20% of the world's land area, and spans all six inhabited continents. With an estimated population of 2.328 billion people, nearly a third of the world population,[8] the Commonwealth in 2014 produced a nominal gross domestic product (GDP) of $10.45 trillion, representing 17% of the gross world product when measured in purchasing power parity (PPP) and 14% of the gross world product when measured nominally."
Most Americans don't want to see Mrs. May or Britain or Mexico cave in to Trump's bullying. We want allies and partners, not subject states. We want appropriate norms of international relations to be upheld. I applaud the decision by the President of Mexico to cancel his own visit in view of the appalling rudeness and attempts at humiliation aimed at him by the White House. I am confident that Mrs. May will be able to withstand any similar attempts. Please, Mrs. May -- no groveling. You don't need us that badly.
Most Americans don't want to see Mrs. May or Britain or Mexico cave in to Trump's bullying. We want allies and partners, not subject states. We want appropriate norms of international relations to be upheld. I applaud the decision by the President of Mexico to cancel his own visit in view of the appalling rudeness and attempts at humiliation aimed at him by the White House. I am confident that Mrs. May will be able to withstand any similar attempts. Please, Mrs. May -- no groveling. You don't need us that badly.
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Dean, Ms. May's country is now called the UK which has for a long time almost been our 51st state.
As far as the Commonwealth is concerned, that is a very big if!!
As far as the Commonwealth is concerned, that is a very big if!!
Oh to be a fly on the wall to listen to the conversation between someone who speaks the Queen's english and someone who is barely capable of stringing together two unscripted coherent polysyllabic sentences. It would be HUGELY entertaining.
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No matter how far I distance myself from that moronic churl, moments like this embarrass me personally. What a humiliation he is.
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To truly understand "orange speak" and alternative facts an interpreter should be present at all times.
As a result of meeting Trump, will May realize that Trump is nothing more than a vapid, bullying sociopath? If not, woe unto the UK. On the bright side for the US, we'd at least have the UK to swirl into the toilet/loo with us.
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Well, she's already got Boris and Nigel. I'd say that leaves her well rehearsed.
"The Americans have rolled 'em into one. Rather efficient, wot?"
-dlj.
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This script seems rather familiar. No I don't mean the George and Tony poodle show:
Theresa May to Donald Trump: Consider yourself... at home / Consider yourself... one of the family / We've taken to you... so strong / It's clear... we're... going to get along!
Mr. Trump: Delighted to see you looking so well my Dear! ... In this life, one thing counts / In the bank, large amounts / I'm afraid these don't grow on trees, / You've got to pick-a-pocket or two / You've got to pick-a-pocket or two.
Ms. May: Please sir, I want some more.
Mr. Trump: [thinking he must not have heard right] What?
Ms. May: Please sir, I want some...
[pauses hesitatingly]
Ms. May:: more?
Mr. Trump: [surprised beyond belief] More? ... Shut up and drink your gin.
Theresa May to Donald Trump: Consider yourself... at home / Consider yourself... one of the family / We've taken to you... so strong / It's clear... we're... going to get along!
Mr. Trump: Delighted to see you looking so well my Dear! ... In this life, one thing counts / In the bank, large amounts / I'm afraid these don't grow on trees, / You've got to pick-a-pocket or two / You've got to pick-a-pocket or two.
Ms. May: Please sir, I want some more.
Mr. Trump: [thinking he must not have heard right] What?
Ms. May: Please sir, I want some...
[pauses hesitatingly]
Ms. May:: more?
Mr. Trump: [surprised beyond belief] More? ... Shut up and drink your gin.
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CSW...please don't quit you day job at BK. How old are you;twelve?
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Both are living in the past, but trump is living in the way past...one wonder of the great evil the colonial english have as a legacy of land stealing, slavery, racism...will the US end up with a similar legacy? We should not align ourselves with the wickedness of the english history.
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I am afraid the US already has this legacy.
Educate yourself. and learn a little respect for our fore fathers, the people you so foolishly call wicked. The people who forged this vast and wonderful country were British. They created, led and formed a country where freedom has reigned for centuries so people such as yourself can sit and spew rubbish in the name of that freedom.
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I haven't read such a load of obnoxious idiocy in quite some time.
Congratulations, you have actually managed to make the internet more stupid.
Congratulations, you have actually managed to make the internet more stupid.
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Do you know that in Normandy in France - remember june 6th 1944 - the french citizens call Ohama beach OBAMA BEACH now ? .
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That is news to me. When did this happen? The French are finally recognizing that anyone besides Charles DeGaulle played a role in their liberation
The french people has always been gratefull to the american people for the landing in Normandy . The frenchs always knew that without the Americans the Second World War would would had last a long time . De Gaulle came back to France from England after the battle . Paris was liberated before he arrived . And be sure that all the french don t appreciate the politic of De Gaulle : cathlic right in the country of Voltaire