Giants Bare Their Chests and Get Exposed by the Packers

Jan 08, 2017 · 101 comments
Caleb Carr (New York)
McAdoo must go! How is it possible, especially after the showing this season, that he was elevated over Steve Spagnuolo? Why, because Spags couldn't make the Rams work? NOBODY can make the Rams work! And McAdoo is about as far from an "offensive genius" as is possible; FIRE HIM, elevate Spags, and get on with Giant business: winning games with a proud defense and a disciplined -- DISCIPLINED -- offense!
hdtvpete (Newark Airport)
The Giants were always shaky on offense this season, targeting Beckham too often (remember that "other" wide receiver, Victor Cruz?) and depending on an average running game instead of using Paul Perkins more. Plus they still don't have a reliable tight end.

Still; the defense was top-notch this year, and showed the rest of the league how to beat Dallas. Green Bay is definitely hitting their stride now and they could easily defeat the Cowboys next weekend if Rodgers gets the kind of protection he saw yesterday, and his defense plays to its potential. The Packers showed they are playing well enough now to go all the way to Houston. Don't be surprised if they do.
Daniel Farber (Yorktown, VA)
OBJ was unable to come up big in this the Giants' biggest game. In fact he didn't come up at all, not merely contributing the accountable "drops" but failing to catch "catchable" balls that no. 1 receivers are paid to catch. He SHOULD be crying--out of embarrassment for a dismal performance. The young man with enormous physical talent still has a huge amount to prove when it comes to heart and mental toughness. All the endorsements in the world won't pay for THAT!
majordmz (Great Falls, VA)
Aaron Rodgers and his teammates stayed in Green Bay all week, did their prep, and treated this game like the must-win playoff contest it was. And it showed, bigtime didn't it.
Blue Jay (Chicago)
Hey, Giants fans, I hope my Packers will kick the Cowboys out of the playoffs for you, at least!
AW (Kentucky)
At end of the first game of the season, it was said by many that the Giants had major problems on offense, i.e. can't run the ball, poor pass protection. Yesterday was their final game of the season and how were their efforts characterized? major problems on offense. It might be somewhat forgivable if Mc Adoo wasn't labelled as an "offensive guru." The most emotion he showed yesterday was when he ran across the field to give the Green Bay coach a congratulatory hug. I watched his post game conference and he failed to explain his thinking behind some of the bonehead moves he made yesterday.
David Ohman (Denver)
Living and dying with the Denver Broncos, we can only hope John Elway hires an all-new offense line with the talents shown by the Packers. Like the Patriots, the Packers O-Line gave Rogers so much time to pick his receivers, a group that knows how to catch the ball and keep it, winning was a foregone conclusion.

The Broncos, and Elway, along with the new head coach, would do well to watch game films of teams like the Packers and Patriots who know how to protect the passing game, the running game and, here is the big one, how to protect the ball when it lands in a receiver's hands. Denver's over-priced receiver corps dropped more than enough passes to keep them out of the playoffs.

Aaron Rogers is as cool as they come. Never ruffled, he works great under pressure. But then, with the protection his front line offers, "pressure" is hard to come by.

Congrats to the Packers. I have always admired the Greenbay Packers for one big reason: they are not owned by some billionaire with an big edo. They are owned by the city and the people who adore them. Go Packers!
Blue Jay (Chicago)
Aaron sometimes loses his cool and lets somebody have it, but he rarely lets it affect his play on the field, and the other players seem to respect him. That makes a world of difference.
Leopold (Reston, VA,)
When Mary hails, she hails Rodgers!
Marge Keller (The Midwest)

"What Rodgers showed at the end of the first half was exactly what the Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo had warned about last week — Rodgers’s uncanny ability to improvise a perfect throw at a crucial moment."

Being from Wisconsin and the Green Bay area in particular, I am a Lombardi fan from the very beginning. I've seen the Packers at their very best and their very worst. Having NY beat them twice in post season playoffs, I resigned myself to the fact that Eli Manning was going to shut down the Packers yet once again. The first quarter certainly looked that way. But then Aaron Rogers woke up (like in last week's Detroit game) and he and his teammates began to click once again and let's not forget about ANOTHER completed Hail Mary pass. I truly thought Steve Spagnuolo's history and first hand knowledge of Rogers' abilities was enough for NY to win. But then, it's Aaron Rogers and anything goes when he's at the helm. The only thing worse than the Packers smothering the Giants was the ungodly biased of Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. Even when the Packers were closing in on the win, both commentators were still yapping about the Giants, the Giants, the Giants. At least if Bob Uecker was announcing, the reporting would have been more balanced. Sorry NY - I really thought you were going to nail it last night.
Blue Jay (Chicago)
Joe Buck is a bloviator, and Aikman tends to follow his lead. But "Chuckie" (Chucky?) on ESPN is the one who drives me crazy nowadays. He doesn't know how not to yell! (Maybe he's hard of hearing?)
Sherr29 (New Jersey)
Beckham's ego got in the way of him catching the football. Guys like him create distractions for themselves and their teams and then they try to downplay it. He's a jerk on and off the field and not nearly as good as he thinks he is. Put him in any other market than NY and no one is paying nearly as much attention to him. I'd taken Julio Jones or Allen Robinson any day over this whinging twit.

Glad the Giants lost -- they aren't that good and the Packers are -- the right team won the game and moves on in the playoffs.
Ultraliberal (New Jersy)
Sherr29
Give Beckham a break, he's not very smart & needs attention. Great players do not drop touchdown passes.
Bruce Egert (Hackensack NJ)
It is becoming harder for me to root for athletes whose personal line of swagger no longer matches mine or anything I would ever imagine being mine. I admire Curtis Granderson (OF, NY Mets) for his ceaseless contributions to community. He does this for the same reason many non-athletes do--they get paid an enormous amount and simply owe it as part of the quasi-social contract of Americans. I would hope that instead of shirtless yachting, ball players could volunteer their time at a soup kitchen to get themselves ready for the big game.
Ultraliberal (New Jersy)
Bruce,Curtis is a class act, he does more for base ball then A-Rod with all his drug aided Home Runs.
Steve B (Old Pueblo AZ)
Maybe the Hail Mary should now be called the "Hail Aaron." Remember the saying "Vengeance is a dish best served cold." Green and gold FOEVER!
soxared, 04-07-13 (Crete, Illinois)
Perhaps the overrated, mouthy Odell Beckham should concentrate on ball security (possession) instead of mugging for NFL Films and picking fights with Josh Norman and others lined up opposite him on Sundays. He's got 8 1/2 months to think about his childishness and what his value to his team is. That's if he cares.
silver bullet (Warrenton VA)
@Boomer Scott #5
The Giants wide receivers dropped two -- two passes in the end zone in the first quarter? If the G-Men were playing New England the score would have been 14-0 right off the bat and the rout would have been on. Glad the Jints won't be around to menace our guys in #51.
Walt Bennett (Harrisburg PA)
Odell needs to shut up about the Hail Mary.

How about those drops, Odell?
Ed (Washington, DC)
Time and time again, Rodgers pulls through when his back's against the wall. Never underestimate Rodgers in the crunch...Go Pack!!
Lou Good (Page, AZ)
Perhaps during the off-season Beckham can work on realizing that he doesn't have to say everything that comes into his head, especially after gagging in the biggest game of his career.

That, and crying all the time.

What, no invite from Justin after this game? That real enough for you? There, there.
ndredhead (NJ)
Come to expect the raging, infantile OBJ but now he's got his shirtless teammates going along with him. That should all bang their heads into a wall.
Joanna Gilbert (Wellesley, MA)
Wild card weekend is always such a hoot. Not enough good teams to make it competitive, just check out this season's scores. Teams get hyped and are overrated, then the embarrassment ensues. I'm looking at you, Giants.
Howsrd Marcus (Boston)
The NFL has many issues to address, not the least of which is protecting offensive players from cowardly hits. The helmet to ribs vicious hit on the GB receiver obviously should have drawn a flag, but, in my opinion, the offending player should also be ejected from the game. A 15 yard penalty is often meaningless to the players and the team. This is supposed to be a football game, not a mugging.
Simple Truth (Atlanta)
"It created a distraction for us." Enough said. Your entire team works its butt off all season to get to the playoffs and you do not have the discipline or restraint to delay a trip to Miami to go clubbing for a few more weeks. Very selfish and very immature. Lesson, a touch one, learned.
Tom Rowe (Stevens Point WI)
Your write up is pretty good, but fails to mention the two 15-yard personal fouls that were missed by the refs but caught on camera. One a face-mask, the other the hit on Nelson. This exposes the antiquated review process used by the NFL. Compare it to the college system where reviews are called down from above. In the case of Nelson, the defender would have been hit with a targeting foul and tossed from the game (although I do not personally feel it was a "dirty" hit).

Its time the NFL modernized to the college level where the instant replay gets the call right almost all the time without those silly red flags. The same can be said for the college version of OT. I didn't like it at first, but it is unquestionably a fairer way of doing things.
Jim H (Orlando, Fl)
Green Bay has been beating the NYG like they owned them since I was a kid when it was Bart Starr vs. Y. A. Titttle.
Zenster (Manhattan)
Beckham is one of the most over rated players in football. I wish the Giants would cut him and give him a fishing pole as a going away present
Ultraliberal (New Jersy)
You cannot win without a running attack, which the Giants sadly lack.I love Eli , but he is not in the same class of Brady or Rogers, he can’t come up with the big play when needed . It didn’t help that the vastly over rated Beckham & Shepard each dropped Touchdown passes.Where were the Giants Blitzes when it was obvious the front four could not reach Rogers.
George Young (Wilton Connecticut)
Eli is a media favorite only because he plays for the New York Giants. New York, New York. If he was playing in San Diego you would hardly read about him. Totally overrated. No other team would have paid $84 million for him. Only giant management which is living in another world. He was never that good. Lucky, yes. Just an average quarterback of college quality. But the press made him look bigger than life thanks to Archie, his promoter, the talking heads on network TV and the New York newspaper writers. Now, the Giants have to find out what to do with him since they are stuck with his $84 million contract. For sure, management is looking for his replacement, the sooner the better. Hopefully for next season. I would like Giants to be a Super Bowl winner yet again. But it will never happen with Eli as quarterback. He is a Manning but not a Peyton Manning.
Michael F (Goshen, Indiana)
"It created a distraction for us."
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And creating a distraction before a playoff game is a good idea how? Just catch the damn ball Odell.
ed murphy (california)
maybe now these moronic receivers will grow up and realize that gaining attention to themselves and their "bling" lifestyle in fact detracts from the team and its focus. Their is no "me" in team.
Paul (Phoenix, AZ)
Under no circumstances what so ever should a team allow a hail Mary TD with time expiring in a half or game. Even if you are caught unprepared you can foul the receiver and defend against one, and ONLY one, untimed down from the 1 yard line, giving you a second chance.

I turned the game off at half time because I knew it was lost.

There are intangibles in a game that go beyond the stats that will predict the winner. Like holding your opponent to 7 yards offense through much of a half but still being ahead by only the equivalent of a TD.

Or, the opposing QB having 8-9 seconds to throw a pass.

Or, the hail Mary.

Sure, maybe Beckham and Shepard dropped a couple of sure TDs. But when your defense gives up 38, does it matter?
Charlie Ratigan (Manitowoc, Wisconsin)
The bottom line here is that the Giants didn't do their job. The Packers were the better team, period. No no-shirt drama, no punching holes in our locker room wall, no histrionics, no praise for a losing effort, no excuses. Face it, Giants fans. You got killed.
susan (manhattan)
Stop with this nonsense about the Giants day off in Miami. The Giants didn't lose because they spent a day on someone's yacht in Miami. The Giants lost because they played poorly. The Packers crushed them. Cry me a river. Go Pack!!!!
Brewster Million (Santa Fe, N.M.)
Baby Beckham did more than just cry in the locker room. Hey Odell, yo mama called and said you need to grow up.
Brian (Here)
Someone should have reminded OBJ to wash the sunscreen lotion off his hands before the game. Clear coaching miss.
jim (NY NY)
Giants Special Teams bear a lot of responsibility for this loss. Give Aaron Rogers good field position consistently and you will get burned. But the end zone jump ball was the dagger here.
Bruce Craig (NYC)
I grew up in Green Bay and spent most of my adult life in Wisconsin, retired to NYC in 2000. When I was a kid, in the late 40's, we used to go down to the Northland Hotel and talk to the players from the visiting team. For some reason, I remember the Giants players as being really friendly to us and willing to give autographs and chat with us 10 year olds. Although still a Packer fan, I tend to view the Giants right behind them, a classy team - unlike another NY organization - and have some sympathy for Mr. Beckham. I wish them luck in the next season, barring another matchup with the Pack.
John F. Harrington (Out West)
What's what with Beckham saying he made all the plays in practice after the boating trip? That's nice. What about the game? The Giants would have been up 21-0 if the receivers were catching the ball.

That must explain the crying. How do you out gain the Packers 194-7 and lead 6-0?
Airborne (Philadelphia, Pa.)
Not a very honest way to explain Nelson's injury--a cowardly hit with the crown of the helmet on a defenseless receiver. We will see if the NFL has something more direct to say about it!
Tom O'Hara (Tracy, Ca)
The good guys won. The clowns got what they deserved.
Miss Accountant (Philadelphia, PA)
I wanted the Giants to win, at first because I am from New York. But when Jordy Nelson got injured on that awful and illegal hit, I hoped the Packers gave it to the Giants but good!!
Steve Crawford (Ramsey NJ)
Aaron Rodgers is a terrific quarterback plain and simple. Every time you thought the Giants would make a comeback in this game he took matters into his own hands and responded right away. As a Jet fan I only wish.........
Bello (western Mass)
It's always nice when the better team wins.
Jim CT (6029)
Giants dominated the first half and were behind at halftime because of dropped passes. Its another story of what could have been. Though Rodgers, as usual, was so good when the need was there. Eli was OK considering he threw a few passes that should have been touchdown catches. The boat thing of course becomes a media issue, but it was their day off, and they could have been at home, since it wasn't a practice day for the team, and still dropped well placed passes. it just happens.
David Rideout (Ocean Springs,ms)
Giant offense too predictable while defense asleep at times.
Civres (Kingston NJ)
Someone mixed up the headlines. If anyone was crushed, it was the Giants.

The difference: Aaron Rodgers' ability to put the ball right in the numbers of his receivers, no matter how much pressure he's under from the defense. Eli Manning is getting less and less accurate—I've been watching all year, and it's increasingly clear that Manning is losing arm strength, sending balls too high, too low, and short or behind his receivers on a very high percentage of his passes. Yes, the Giant receivers are probably a bit overrated—especially Victor Cruz, who caught five passes this year and had a chest-thumping exhibition after every one of them—but Manning's skills are waning, and with the NFL's scheduling adjustments for 2017-18 giving the Giants tougher opponents, NY will have be a worse team next year, guaranteed
John H. (Portland Maine)
Eli Manning is the most overrated QB in football. Period.
Civres (Kingston NJ)
"When it was over, Beckham cried in the locker room."

I've been crying all season watching this tremendously talented but maddeningly self-absorbed nut case undo with his whining to the referees and infantile demonstrations on the field whatever good his spectacular receptions and runs may do for the team. He'll be joining Plaxico Burress soon in the Hall of Shame.
Braniff (New York)
The Giants got to the playoffs because of their defense, and for nearly a half yesterday the defense was dominant. Once the hail Mary pass landed, that was the end of the dominating defense.
The offense could do nothing. How many times are they going to run the ball up the middle into two tons of muscle, where there's nowhere to go?? No sweeps? No zigs? no zags? If they had gotten just one first down on the sequence just before halftime there would have been no pass to the end zone and the complexion of the game would have been totally different.
George Young (Wilton Connecticut)
Watching Aaron Rodgers perform the Giant management must surely realize by now their $84 million mistake. Watch for Manning to be giving morale support to his replacement by mid season next.
MoneyRules (NJ)
1. Maybe the footballs were not deflated to Eli's liking
2. Maybe the Giant's walkie talkies did not work on the cold weather
3. Maybe the Giants thought, with the Patriots as playoff favorites, they were automatically going to beat New England for the superbowl
Horseshoe crab (south orleans, MA 02662)
Silly to blame the Miami detour for anything - Aaron Rodgers and Randall Cobb were the difference. Too bad for Big Blue as their defense is probably the best in the NFC and the offense ain't too bad either but today in hoary Lambeau the quarterback tandem of Rodgers-Cobb were simply better that Eli- Beckham.
[email protected] (Baltimore, MD)
Did ESPN ever get to the bottom of Holegate? They were devoted a lot of time and resources to figuring out Odell's drywall punch.
John crane (Waterbury ct)
The last time the Giants scored 20 points was against Cleveland back in November even with a good defense,there was no way this team was going anywhere in the playoffs.
HudsonLineTom (Cold Spring, NY)
I'm intrigued that none of the coverage I've seen mentions that yesterday's game was the mirror image of the 2012 Giants-Packers playoff game: similar score (37-20), complete domination by the winning Giants and even a first half concluding successful Hail Mary pass from Manning to Nicks.
Pumpkin (NJ)
Giants defense was awesome for the first 58 minutes. As usual, with lack of offensive support, especially running game, defense wore out. JPP and DRC missing was noted in the end.
As Giants fan, I never expected them to go this far so I am happy ( beating cowboys twice is good enough for me ) . Hope they improve their offensive line and tight ends and running backs and go further next season. Go Giants !
Maurelius (Westport)
I think the 4th quarter fumble caused by Clay Matthews summed it up for this Giants fan. Eli's fumbled ball fell at the feet of a Giants receiver and instead of picking up the ball, he stood there as if he was at a garden party.

What happened, Clay Matthews came running over and knocked the Giants receiver out of the way and picked up the ball. I didn't hear a whistle so that ball was live.

As the Times pointed out last week, the Giants are either good at looking bad or bad at looking good. The Packers punted on their first 5 possessions and putting up field goals against an explosive Packers offense is not a good thing.

Sure the Giants might have still lost but they were completely demoralized by the Hail Mary to end the 1st half. Six giants in the end zone three packers and they Giants let that ball get caught.

Let's go Chiefs!
wally dunn (ny, ny)
The game was over when the Packers scored 21 pts. The Giant's ceiling is 20...
Fred Klug (Nashville, IL)
Go Pack Go!
I was at the 1961 championship game when the Packers shredded the Giants 37 to zip, and the Green Bay Press-Gazette trucked some newspapers to New York because the newspapers' workers were on strike.
Life is good.
AlbertShanker (West pPalm beach)
Giant star receivers failed big time, and Eli's a full step slower. Play calling is predictable. Where's a screen pass to Tiki Barber when you need it !!
SteveRR (CA)
When they got blown out in the second half and OBJ was dropping all of those balls - all I thought about was their trip to Miami and the exact opposite preparations that the Packers were undergoing at the time.

I would have expected nothing less from OBJ because - really - I expect so little professionalism to begin with.
MattNg (NY, NY)
It's too bad Eli only gives his best effort during the playoffs.

He's mailed it in the last five years and only seems to get 'up' for playoff games.

He should try to emulate Tom Brady and try to do his best every game.
morGan (NYC)
I didn't expect much for this year. Making the playoffs was good.
Five years in wilderness was evident in first half as they dominated with only two filed goals to show for it.
I'm rooting for the cheese heads to chisel the detested Cowboys.
Rob (Miami)
This game was a collective loss by the Giants offense. No running game. Eli was 'off' (again). Receivers did not make spectacular catches, and dropped some throws they should have made. Wing punted poorly 'losing' field position. McAdoo's play calling was suspect.

Prime offseason need: replacement for Flowers and right side of OL; start developing a replacement for Eli; a tall WR
Andrew (NYC)
Odell is a bum. Two critical drops. Cost the team the season. Must have been the sunscreen
kjterz (tampa,fl)
well when you crown yourself nypd before the game...........you have to live with the ...."new york paper defense"............................
Richard Mclaughlin (Altoona PA)
The Giant's players bared their chests two and a half hours before their game, but five hours after Ryan Shazier did it in Pittsburgh. (Maybe they thought that was why Pittsburgh won their game.)
CHH-MD (Office)
" .... It created a distraction for us. It’s unfortunate, but that’s the way the world is...."

No ... that is the way Beckham is ... he makes 'himself' the distraction. He views himself as the entertainer. The TEAM winning is the entertainment, not him. A blockhead ..
Ed (New York)
Kudos to Aaron Rodgers for a marvelous game. Giants receivers dropped too many balls early in the game. Not that it would have made a difference when Rodgers started to heat up. I am a die hard Giants fan, and am very disappointed but i'll root hard for Green Bay vs. the hated Cowboys next week.
Sharon5101 (Rockaway Beach Ny)
The Sports Gods decided to punish New York for the sin of vanity. Maybe next time all Giant players will be forced to concentrate on getting to the Super Bowl instead of partying with Justin Bieber. There will be plenty of time for play dates after the Giants have won the Super Bowl. But that's not going to happen now is it. Thanks a lot guys!!!
Observer (Connecticut)
Eli Manning deserved a better team and better coaches on his side during the NFC Wildcard game in Green Bay. As they say in tennis, unforced errors were the killer. The receiving spoiled narcissists kiddies were horrible while Eli was firing passes as if he had a snipers scope. He never looked better this season than he did today. Nice the way nobody in a NYG uniform cared about the ball dislodged when Eli was hit and the heads-up Packers recovered the fumble. What was the coach thinking where he called a running play up the middle for the short fourth down attempt? And let's not leave out special (as in challenged) teams. Short kickoffs and that ridiculous kickoff non-return where the player takes the ball out-of bounds instead of letting the ball go out. Defense certainly does not come away clean. No pass rush where the defense looked like a band of Keystone Cops chasing after butterflies and that Hail Mary from hell was just embarrassing. On the plus side, that fourth down stand against the Packers offense was spectacular. Usually, I come away thinking Eli looks lost during a game. Today when it counted, he was sharp, prepared, in charge and let down by everyone around him. The Giants should have put Green Bay away by the first half.
Charlie Ratigan (Manitowoc, Wisconsin)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Here in GB, we finish games. That's how we roll.
KMS (Claremont, CA)
Rogers had too much time. Maybe with JPP we would have had a chance. But even if he comes back, strengthening the pass rush has to be the biggest priority for next season.
Boneisha (Atlanta GA)
I must admit I do still read the sports pages and follow the scores, but I stopped watching the actual games a couple of years ago. I got tired of the broadcast shills pushing products and upcoming shows on their respective networks. I got tired of spending 195 minutes to see what is, in reality, just over 10 minutes of actual competition. (I stopped attending the games years ago once I realized I was merely the studio audience for a TV show.)

So, all I can say to those with critical comments ("you have to be some kind of nut") ("no mention of the illegal hit") ("a couple of clowns") is this: Stop watching the games, spend your time and money doing something else, and let the whole corrupt enterprise die from public indifference.
Michael Whaley (Wisconsin)
What do you mean by "the mercurial Rodgers"? Are you referring to his cold-then-hot performance? Mercurial almost always refers to temperament, especially a volatile or changeable one. Rodgers's temperament is anything but that. He is definitely "Mr. Cool, Calm, Relaxed". In any case, performance is better measured by games than quarters.
richard (ventura, ca)
Eli Manning is a genuine human being, teammate, friend. So are Messrs Beckham, and Rodgers. The game is over. No one died. No one will, say, lose her/his health insurance. Let's move on, shall we?
Jeff (Israel)
This offensive line must be improved. Manning is not a scrambling QB and must be better protected. Afraid we should be drafting a new LT in the first round as it seems clear that right now Flowers can not handle wide edge rushers. Jerry and Newhouse were basically brought in to be good subs and ended up two year starters. Need at least two new starters on the OL for next year and then anyone can run behind a good line. Also if Cruz will be thrown at so little he has nothing left. Giants had no consistent offensive rhythm all year. Their offense was a one trick pony (last two games, Tavares King, was the "surprise option". McAdoo needs to designate someone to run the offense and must accept some of the blame for this awful offense which did not improve all year. Needed to put in some trick plays for this game - you know Parcells would have done that.
S (MC)
Taking a trip to Miami right before you are supposed to do battle on the frozen tundra doesn't seem like a good idea. You book that Miami vacation after you win the game.
Nicky (NJ)
They would have never gone to Miami if Coughlin was still coaching. He preached team accountability and karma more than any one.
Beckham would have been in bed by 9pm every night.
Tom Fallath (Placitas, NM)
Really not the end of the world, fans. G Men lost to a team with a red hot celebrity QB on the road in freezing conditions. If you had told me the Giants would go 11-5 and beat the Ploughboys twice, as well as break the Philly curse back in September, I would have reacted the same way as if you told me Trump..., Oh never mind!
Crucial moment of the game for me was when that dork tried to field the kickoff and fumbled it OB. Mistakes happen. Hopefully Beckham has learned a big lesson in humility and Eli has another decent year or two left.
pjc (Cleveland)
I truly do wonder, whether the Packers secret weapon is their ability to execute in the bitter cold. New York is no stranger to nasty winter weather, but I think we all have to admit, Lambeau Field cold is in a league of its own.

One of the things I like about football is when it lets weather play a factor. From the Icebowl on, it is a tradition. I think the Giants just got beat by sheer meteorology.

12 degrees is COLD.
Patrick (Ashland, Oregon)
Not that many years ago, the media, the NFL, etc. couldn't get enough of Bret Favre. He was good, but, overrated, in my opinion.
This guy, Rogers, though, may be one of the all time greats. In addition to his physical abilities, he plays within himself, and doesn't let his ego get in the way of his decision making.
But, as a longtime NYer, I still love the Gmen.
Nicky (NJ)
Completely agree. When Rodgers gets sacked it's because there were no open receivers. Instead of forcing risky throws and getting intercepted (like Brett Favre would), Rodgers has the discipline and presence of mind to take the sack or throw it away.
Andrew Kessler (Madison, WI.)
Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers have both been great quarterbacks. Favre created a consistently winning franchise from what had been a consistently losing one for the prior 30 years. He did not have the same quality receivers around him as Rodgers does.
What Favre has to do with yesterday's game I do not know? The relevant points are Rodgers had twelve seconds to get off a touchdown pass. The Giants secondary is what created the early sacks of Rodgers. In others words, the Giants had no pass rush. The Giants offense was pathetic. Odell Becham dropped numerous passes. The Giants had no running game. The Giants did not rise to the occasion. They fell to the occasion.
Charlie Ratigan (Manitowoc, Wisconsin)
Patrick, over-rated enough to make it into the NFL Hall of Fame. Second, you
may not have heard Aaron's opinion of Favre. It's different from yours. Last, it's Rodgers...with a d.
RM (Vermont)
You have to be some kind of nut to pay through the nose to sit in near zero weather for four hours to watch a football game. What other sport are fans required to endure such conditions to attend a post season game? Even a northern city World Series game is usually no colder than 40 degrees or so.
Jim (NY)
I think a lot of people enjoy the cold weather aspect of playoff football. To each their own.
Seth Coombs (Chittenden, VT)
That's kind of harsh. I grew up in WI, and it is a lot colder than VT. I was helping to prepare the ramp of a ski jump for a junior worlds event when I saw the spectators assembling below in the subzero weather. They were laying in their snowmobile suits on chaise lounges on the snow (you have to look UP at the skiers flying down) and had their coolers at their side. The coolers were to keep the beers from freezing. Fun is where to make it.
Jenny Emery (N. Granby, Ct.)
Don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
Blue Jay (Chicago)
So, who's gonna pay for the wall (repairs)?
tomreel (Norfolk, VA)
Mexico?
Ernie (CT)
The Mexicans, duh.
Tom (Madison)
I think they should leave it un-repaired, as a kind of testament to the powers of not giving up and teamwork.
Eric E. Danielson (Middleton, WI)
No mention of the helmet first illegal hit causing #1 receiver to leave the game? Of course no penalty was called so it must not have been illegal--right?
Blue Jay (Chicago)
Let's not be sore winners. Otherwise, we'll have people asking us, "Want some cheese with your whine?"

The Times sports section is focused on New York teams. But we have our own sources of Packers-focused news and opinions. (I got a deal on an online Green Bay Press-Gazette subscription that also offers access to Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel articles: one year for 99 cents!)

And the ESPN Packers web page is good, too.
Ed (New York)
Looked like a legit hit to me - on a play near the sidelines.
Billy from Brooklyn (Hudson Valley, NY)
It could have been called, as intent is not a penalty consideration, but likely there was no intent to use the crown of the helmet. It was not a dirty play.

Bodies are moving and changing angles, and the defender can sustain a very serious neck or head injury. We hope that Nelson does not have cracked ribs and is able to play next week.
Ronald Stone (Coconut Creek, Fl)
Jenkins and Beckham are a couple of clowns.
Mark Lebow (Milwaukee, WI)
So much for the Times article that Packers fans remember the playoff losses more than the victories. I guess the Packers were too busy preparing for the Giants to have time to read it.