Numbers Game

Jan 05, 2017 · 71 comments
Ryan Choate (Central City, KY)
Geez, that top right corner was pesky. I would have never guessed AEOLIAN for "Windblown". I had the first A and L filled in and stuck stubbornly with AT FLOAT. Maybe having the right answer would have made "Flash source" easier to figure out. Photography? Adobe Flash, maybe? Nope, comic books.

Anyways, awesome crossword. Major props to you, Jacob, for fitting UNDER THE SUN and OVER THE MOON into this open puzzle. And in symmetrical places no less.
Leapfinger (Durham, NC)
Yes, I also thought that MOON/SUN bracketing very elegant.

I suppose you've heard all the 'inchoate' observations?
Zarqa (Seattle)
First fill: ANIONS. Guess the bio degree does still come in handy sometimes. The rest was slow going with some fun bits and some "meh".
Whoopi went from medium to oracle to finally ODA MAE (which required google)
Had JULIAN but doubted myself until JOSE appeared. Got TRON too but needed google to confirm.
Just now see I hadn't filled in 51D and see it must be LEWD as a twisty way to be blue.
Only once I achieved the most accurate imitation of the Wicked Witch with cackle did MY PRETTY come out from the coffers of the brain. That was the most fun fill, with ARMCHAIR a close second.
Took an oddly long time to "see" NOSILY for what it was and not No Silly, wth?
Good Friday puzzle!
Keta Hodgson (West Hollywood)
I had guessed that the calendar was Julian almost immediately but couldn't make it work until I got the answer to "no way" man. Good thing I do my puzzles in the privacy of my living room as people would wonder why the h e double l is that old lady laughing so hard!
Andrew Weiss (Playa Del Rey, Ca)
Loved the puzzle ... the upper right corner took me a very long time to complete. Just a slight correction: I'm from the Sixties, and a love-in was not a protest. It was an event (usually in a park) fueled by music and perhaps(!) some pot. A popular protest of the time was the sit-in.
Barry Ancona (New York, NY)
Whoa, that was quite a hit, Andrew, Check out the very first post in these comments (and the reply string). It's been real. Later.
polymath (British Columbia)
Nice puzzle. Really hard for me, and I needed some help from a friend to finish it, upon which I realized that I overlooked some very obvious letters that would have finished the thing off without help. Oh, well. ON COULD NINE before OVER THE MOON. The hardest areas were the lower left and the upper right, which could not be filled in until the little words in the corners were discovered. "Windblown" for AEOLIAN was very puzzling, since I'd thought only of being tossed, turned, and tousled by the wind rather than like an AEOLIAN harp producing sound because of the wind — tricky! ARMCHAIR for the critic's place and PISTIL for ovary's place were also very tricky. DC COMICS was very tricky for "Flash source." All in all a very satisfying puzzle!
Meg H (<br/>)
Thank you, Caitlin, for PISTIL and HANSARP; that got me out of nowheresville. I had filled in AUDUBON because, who else painted birds? Now I know and I even know Arp's first name. The other clue I needed was MYPRETTY which caused me to drop TOSSOUT and find CASTOFF. I also ATFIRST had only JOSE and JULIAN in an otherwise blank grid. And though I eventually managed to fill in the whole right side, it took those three clues to solve the rest.

All in all a very satisfying Friday. Encouraged I await Saturday!
Gary Katch (Montreal)
Re DSL:

I worked in computer networking for twenty years. I can attest that "DSL" and "browsing" have almost nothing to do with each other. DSL refers to an electrical hardware specification, while "browsing" is an activity built upon many levels of software, within the context of only one kind of software application, a web browser. Specific to browsing might be URL, or one of its header parts, e.g. HTTP, FTP, IRC, MAILTO.

It's like giving the clue "Driving inits." for OHC (overhead cam).
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Thank you!! I had URL in there briefly, before the SEA SNAKE inSinuated itSelf, and I never could figure out DSL, but had just put it down to being computer illiterate. (I don't want to understand it; I just want it to work....)
Barry Ancona (New York, NY)
I feel your pain, Gary, It is felt by others with solid knowledge of a particular field when they encounter a late week clue-entry pair that is such a stretch as to border on the absurd. But this is a Friday puzzle: having "almost" nothing to do with each other makes them close enough.
polymath (British Columbia)
It struck me the same way — not closely fetched at all. But I have to admit, DSL refers to an Internet connection, and the Internet is for browsing (pace "Avenue Q").
Nobis Miserere (Cleveland)
Outstanding puzzle. Or maybe I'm just happy, because I took wild guesses at four of the long clues and, completely by happenstance, guessed right, e.g. TIPS ONES HAT.
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
Very little time to comment, just to say that this felt like a Saturday puzzle, and a brutal one at that. There were several answers out of my knowledge bank, and several I just didn't figure out. Yet I liked the puzzle. I liked how deep down tough it was, with no fault in the cluing or fill. Come at me again any time, Jacob!
Jimbo57 (Oceanside NY)
Fittingly challenging Friday puzzle from Mr. Stulberg today. Got my start with a few pop culture references (TRON, EMPIRE, MYPRETTY), although I misremembered Whoopi's "Ghost" character as IDAMAE before ODA, and tried KEENON before KEENEN. Worked my way around the grid and eventually finished in good time. Pleased with myself for coming up with DIPSOS but took awhile to parse HANSARP as a first and last name.

In the early 70s, my Dad started is own home-based typesetting business called the CAMERA READY Composition Company.

There've been a lot of heavy metal acts over the years, but nobody has ever out-heavy-ed Black Sabbath. Try "UNDER THE SUN" from their not-too-Cryptically titled 4th album, "Vol. 4," for instance:

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8A1To_-8Y
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
I had KEENAN and really hated to change it, fearing it meant I had gotten the wrong one of those amazingly talented and good-looking brothers. [sigh] I didn't realize it was spelt differently.
polymath (British Columbia)
I had the same problem with KEENAN —> KEENEN. Had no idea it was spelt, quinoa, or amaranth differently.
Deadline (New York City)
Hand up for KEENAN before KEENEN.

I didn't know Wayans and Wynn spelled their names differently.
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
All I had to do was look at the blogger's last name to get the inspiration I needed for 14D. (It helped that I knew CAV.)
suejean (Harrogate)
Like some others started off with JOSE & JULIAN. I enjoyed the two 10 pin bowling clues. Would enjoying a FLAGON of Mead make me a DIPSO? (Is there no end to definitions of drunks? )

I liked all the long entries in the NW & SE but
unlike others it took me a while to get OVER THE MOON and ironically my last entry was NYT
Deadline (New York City)
I had trouble with FLAGON at first.

I thought mead was served in tankards and FLAGONs were for grog.
Nobis Miserere (Cleveland)
Très drôle!
polymath (British Columbia)
Very few people know that (as a friend once pointed out), DIPSOMAÑIACAL is an anagram of PIÑACOLADAISM.
Deadline (New York City)
I had a tough time today. My brain has been through several wringers this week, and I think it just gave out. The friend I have been acting for (POA and healthcare proxy) died yesterday morning. The POA expired with her, and she left no will, and I'm now in the middle of trying to figure out how to hand all the responsibility over to someone (anyone!) else without paying a fortune out of my own pocket to an eldercare lawyer. I won't be able to do much over the weekend, so I just have to get through today and maybe I can breathe a bit and get back to work on Monday.

I started sorta okay in NW, tentatively entering OCTsomething, VAINER, ERE, and OAHU. That made the stacked longies pretty much leap out and decided me between GEEK and NERD and finished that quadrant okay.

Then I ran into trouble. SE came together more slowly, with just IMPEDE and AT FIRST at first. Then I thought of LEWD and gave up on ALI, and the stacks fell.

I tried FRY mentally in SW, which led me to try somethingOFF mentally and it was a start. CRYPT gave me MY PRETTY.

But NE was a brick wall with its nasty stack of threes. I couldn't come up with the end of ODA??? and wanted ANEM??? something where AEOLIAN belonged. Only trying MAE got me out of that one. I saw the SNAKE and guessed the SEA, got the ??COMICS and eventually LOVE-INS. I contend that the clues for DSL and CEO were really far removed.

Other no-knows: AMES and LEEANN.

Thanks to all, and have a terrific day.
CS (Providence, RI)
So sorry about your friend, Deadline, and hope you find administrative ease.
Liz B (Durham, NC)
What CS said; I'm sorry to hear about your friend and all the complications involved.
Deadline (New York City)
Thank you, Liz and CS, for your kind thoughts.
dk (Saint Croix Falls, WI)
Our Jacob is a Renaissance man. We move from Victorian mannerisms (17A) to the Sixties (14D), pop culture (3D, 12D,, 34D, 38A, 45D, 48A), Age of Reason and ending at bowling. All we lack is that little dog Toto.

I peaked to ensure 28D was correct -- never quite sure what parts crossover for sexual and asexual reproduction. But! I was saved by Art History (AH) class at 6D. Odd that my college major was focused on Science and I took AH as an elective... and slept through many of the classes. Picture a cold day, getting to AH at 8:30 AM, the room is warm, the lights dim for the slides, your head lolls back. Interesting that I seem to remember more AH than Science when it comes to puzzles. Perhaps one can learn by osmosis.

TTFN
Brutus (Berkeley, NJ)
No cruciverbal epiphany for me today. Upper half of the grid was my achilles hell (not a typo); a FAR cry from a solve. The 1-2 punch of ANIONS and AEOLIAN were a pair of answers that did little more than AMPLIFY my consternation. Other contributing villains today: roll before BOWL, Mormon/JULIAN and theory/THESIS...HANS ARP? "Who Are You?" Some fans never got OVER THE loss of Keith MOON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4
Brutus (Berkeley, NJ)
For those who wish to follow the bouncing cursor:

I woke up in a Soho doorway
A policeman knew my name
He said "You can go sleep at home tonight
If you can get up and walk away"

I staggered back to the underground
And the breeze blew back my hair
I remember throwin' punches around
And preachin' from my chair

[chorus:]
Well, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
I really wanna know (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
Tell me, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
'Cause I really wanna know (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)

I took the tube back out of town
Back to the Rollin' Pin
I felt a little like a dying clown
With a streak of Rin Tin Tin

I stretched back and I hiccupped
And looked back on my busy day
Eleven hours in the Tin Pan
God, there's got to be another way

Who are you?
Ooh wa ooh wa ooh wa ooh wa ...

Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?

[chorus]

I know there's a place you walked
Where love falls from the trees
My heart is like a broken cup
I only feel right on my knees

I spit out like a sewer hole
Yet still recieve your kiss
How can I measure up to anyone now
After such a love as
Suzy M. (Higganum CT)
I can't find my favorite Keith Moon quote, so maybe he didn't really say it, but in case he really did, here it is: When asked "Who is the best drummer in he world?" Moon replied "I am." "Okay, so who's second best?" "Me on a bad day."
Jimbo57 (Oceanside NY)
Combining the answers to 1A and 60A, this is Roger Daltry's tribute to his former band-mate, titled "UNDER a Raging MOON":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4VuUBI5gtw
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Aw, darn! I got "no way" JOSE and the SEA SNAKE (whom, may I say, certain persons may resemble,) but my best guess for the danged arena/athlete was NAT, and the two three letter Abbrs remained obscure.
Finally Googled the athlete and took the Fail for the day.
Felt lucky to have gotten the rest of the puzzle, which required that I relinquish my treasured REFORMATION (so common to find historians whose focus is Ren/Ref) in order to reconfigure the entire bottom triple-stack.
There was some pretty clevel cluing going on there, which I do admire even if it left me bruised and bleeding. I hope you're happy! [sniff]
Peggy Poznanski (Kalamazoo, MI)
This was a challenge and no mistake! I had to put it away overnight to cook in my brain and that's a rarity for me. Ten pm to bedtime is my puzzle time and I look forward to it every day, but my brain gave out before the squares turned black. Fair and fun, thanks so much for a great puzzle!
Johanna (Ohio)
HANS?

I never saw past JEAN so the NW did me in.

Still a lovely Friday puzzle, thank you, Jacob. May I call you Hal?
Wags (Colorado)
Ditto for me, Johanna.
CS (Providence, RI)
In keeping with the (mini) theme, I will report that I solved the northern hemisphere of today's offering much more quickly and with almost no regard to the southern. I did start as some others with 'on cloud nine' and feel that's appropriate with our actual cosmic answers. Had the most trouble in the SW because it took so long to remember MY PRETTY even though I was and am still a huge fan of the movie and Margaret Hamilton's WW ("what a world" -- also cosmic) and held on to 'toss' OUT for FAR too long. My other stubborn hold on was for 'cpr' before SPF. Excellent puzzle all around -- SEA, SUN, and MOON.
spenyc (Manhattan)
A very satisfying puzzle...and it's my own dang fault that I got one square wrong: where ODAMAE crosses AEOLIAN, I put a T. Had I but read it ODA MA__ or run the alphabet...grrrr.

But it was such a fine solving experience--in this case, grinding to a halt before picking up speed again without the aid of Google--that it reminded me of the great Patrick Berry himself, which is saying something.
archaeoprof (Jupiter, FL)
Love the juxtaposition of OVERTHEMOON at 1A and UNDERTHESUN at 60A! In the NE corner that SEASNAKE almost bit me. Nice one, Jacob Stulberg!
John (Chicago)
Martin, I'm thinking of an Ella song that Charles likes, A Tisket A Tasket...

But not for me.

Puzzle, maybe a gersh win.
Deb Amlen (Wordplay, The Road Tour)
Happy New Year, John!

I had no idea you were so attractive.
Barry Ancona (New York, NY)
John,
Speaking of songs, who's that lady?
Rich in Atlanta (Decatur, Georgia)
Early on my toeholds consisted of JOSE / JULIAN and CRYPT / MYPRETTY (actually thought of CRYPT before I remembered MYPRETTY). Also had ONCLOUDNINE at 1a, but was eventually dissuaded. After that it was a lot of thought, multiple breaks and a few lucky guesses, but I gradually chipped away at most of it. Got AGEOFREASON from FLAGON and somehow thought of SPARE, but then assumed that 58a would be a different sense of that clue and just got stuck in that area. Finally had to look up ABU to be able to finish. Close but no cigar, but still a nice long Friday workout.

In local news, the world is ending. Oops, I mean that we might get up to 4 inches of snow tonight and it will probably stick around for a couple of days; that evidently boils down to the same thing. We haven't any snow on the ground in a long time so I'm really looking forward to it. My front yard is the best 'sliding' hill in the neighborhood so we'll likely see lots of kids out there. I have to go the store to pick up a few things this morning, and can only hope that there will actually be some food left on the shelves. Not that anyone around here overreacts.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Our entire state is closed.
There is (at most) about an inch out there.
Our neighbor works for the LRock VA hospital in discharge planning; she spent the night there.
We're having hot cream of rice cereal and watching birds.
Deadline (New York City)
We've got a little snow, but not enough for real pleasure.

But I did lay in some half-and-half, so I can treat myself to some cocoa.
Steve L (Chestnut Ridge, NY)
Rich, on the news last night, officials in Georgia were assuring everyone that they were more prepared, that there would never be anything like 2014 again...this was on NBC Nightly News no less.

And there was a reporter in Raleigh, NC, talking about their plans.

From my experience in the South (beach home in NC), they're very advanced at snow removal. They use solar power.

MOL, guess Arkansas officials haven't yet figured it out.
RJ (Green Brook NJ)
A most excellent Friday challenge and as it was a solve an auspicious start to the weekend.
Paul (Virginia)
Started quickly with OVER THE MOON but little else came easily. The NE corner gave me fits, but it finally fell.
Robert (Vancouver, Canada)
and Elke
When AT FIRST only HANS ARP, PRO ,OLE and ILL filled themselves in, decided to check calendar- was sure that a Saturday puzzle had snuck in disguised as a Friday.
Slowly though, the AGE OF REASON emerged from the tricky clues . Had CPR before SPF as a concern for lifeguard. Liked how OVER THE MOON at the top was balanced by UNDER THE SUN at the bottom.
Am feeling my age after reading Walt Whitman's "Thanks In Old Age" and seeing CRYPT, the cemetery on OAHU, CAST OFF, ILL .
Should 53D have been " kind of 'lab' " ? Strictly speaking a METH lab is not FIT to be called a lab.
Time to TIP my HAT to J.S. and be ASLEEP (not in my ARMCHAIR).
Suzy M. (Higganum CT)
Hand up for filling OVER THE MOON, JOSE and a couple others on the first pass. And then the trouble started, but after much persistence I got it all done except the NE. AOL instead of DSL, didn't know the COMICS, couldn't come up with SEA (head slap on that one). Ditto on not thinking of a LOVEIN as a form of protest, and "Fig. in annual reports" for CEO was sort of mean, in my opinion. Revealed DSL, NE finally fell, good night all...
Steve L (Chestnut Ridge, NY)
Yesterday, we had YOU DON'T KNOW with the last word missing--it was apparently hiding in the black square. Today, we have the final word, in 6D. I thought he was called JEAN ARP, because he was better known by his French first name. But today, he's HANS, his German one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0okgwEVmJxE

If you think he only went by JEAN, then YOU DON'T KNOW ARP.
Deadline (New York City)
Oh, thanks, Steve. You make me feel much better.

I didn't know the painting and had only the HANS part, followed by three blank squares. Half of my brain kept saying that a three-letter painter was probably ARP, but the other half kept saying no-no-no, his name was JEAN.

I'm glad I wasn't hallucinating that.
suejean (Harrogate)
Hand up for Jean first.
Liz B (Durham, NC)
Wikipedia says:

Arp was born in Strasbourg, the son of a French mother and a German father, during the period following the Franco-Prussian War when the area was known as Alsace-Lorraine (Elsass-Lothringen in German) after France had ceded it to Germany in 1871. Following the return of Alsace to France at the end of World War I, French law determined that his name become Jean.

When Arp spoke in German he referred to himself as "Hans", and when he spoke in French he referred to himself as "Jean".

*****
Getty's Union List of Artist Names helpfully gives his name[s] as "Hans Arp, Hans Peter Wilhelm Arp, Jean Arp, Jean-Pierre-Guillaume Arp, Khans Arp, J. Arp"
Mike Ramee (Denver CO)
AGE OF REASON, hmmm.... That must have been a very long time ago.
Barry Ancona (New York, NY)
Old business (from late in yesterday's comments)

Deadline,
I think polymath is serving BIALYS.
Deadline (New York City)
Thank you, Barry.

Alas, there's no where that's really convenient to my apartment where I can pick up fresh bialys, and this morning, as so often, I had to settle for an English muffin.
polymath (British Columbia)
Yup, BIALYS is the word I was thinking of. Though WHYS is another perfectly good answer! Interesting how rare such words are.
Rich in Atlanta (Decatur, Georgia)
DL, I don't know why I thought there used to be a bialy stock not that far from your apartment.

..
David Connell (Weston CT)
(Does anybody else think today's Mini was a repeat?)

I wonder if Lewis will note the crooked vampire in today's puzzle...
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
Wow! Great catch!
Liz B (Durham, NC)
I saw OVER THE MOON almost instantly, which only served to set me up for disappointment as I ran aground on the lower half of the puzzle. The top half filled in without too much trouble, but my grid was emptier and emptier as I moved south. I had TOPERS before DIPSOS (since HANS ARP was all I had there and RAH worked as well as OLE).

In the south, I had TORAHS before SCROLL and I tried REFORMATION before AGE OF REASON. That whole SE corner was pretty empty for a long time--I had KEENEN and ended up looking up ABU, and then FLAGON appeared and I could finally chip away at those long acrosses. METH was my first thought for 53D, but I thought, "No, he wouldn't" so I didn't put it in. But he did.

On the other hand, I was very proud of myself for getting DC COMICS!
judy d (livingston nj)
just kept working at it. puzzle was essentially four separate quadrants. got the NW first with "over the moon" -- octant was a big help. then the SE with "bowl a strike" and spare. got help in the narrow NE with DSL. Last to fall was the SW. Pistil and Oat flakes were helpful as were fish fry and fit.
Martin (California)
I used to confuse stamen, stigma and style. The stigma and style are parts of the pistil, but the stamen isn't. I sort it all out by remembering the botanist's terms for male and female flowers, staminate and pistilate, respectively. I remember that that the stigma is the top of the pistil, that part that receives the pollen, with another mnemonic: "sticky stigma." I know these mnemonics seem as cumbersome as just memorizing the terms, but they've stood me in good stead for over 50 years so I'm sticking with them.

I got through another Sakamoto clan New Years party but came home with a miserable cold (or maybe a mediocre flu). At least I was able to get through all the catering. It seemed that everyone is Seattle was sick. Yuckiest cold and flu season I can remember. Back to sleep and I wish everyone a happy and healthy 2017.
Peggy Poznanski (Kalamazoo, MI)
You're not a botanist or anything, are you? Love learning those terms and mnemonics . It puts me in mind of an old friend of mine (Jon Monroe, do you read this?) from Univ of Michigan biological station. When you went for a walk he would pick lovely flowers from passing bushes and then proceed to immediately disembowel them to see what kind of ovary they had. If they were a modern kind of garden flower he would toss them disgustedly over his shoulder as "_______", too modern, so boring and not worthy of further examination. I can't dredge up the term, sorry. Maybe you know?)
Martin (California)
Hi Peggy,

No, I'm just suffering with a lifelong love of weeds.

All I can think of that your friend might have been observing was the position of the ovary, which can be "superior," "inferior," or something in between.

A "superior" ovary is in the flower along with the other parts, like a berry's. An "inferior" ovary is buried in the "hip" of the flower,

Plants with inferior ovaries are actually more advanced evolutionarily than those with "superior" ovaries. Protecting the ovary was an adaptation to allow pollination by chewing insects.
polymath (British Columbia)
(That's pistillate, with two L's.)
Fact Boy (Emerald City)
Webster defines “love-in” as “a gathering esp. of young people for the expression of their mutual love,” the OED as a “gathering for the purpose of establishing and enjoying love relationships,” and it documents the definition with a quote from Michael Butterworth’s Flowers for a dead witch (1971): “We had a few love-ins up on the cliffs…We’d go for moonlight swims, and then dry off with a little horseplay.” A protest is an antagonistic demonstration; be-ins and love-ins are the antithesis of antagonism. Love-ins aren't protests.
Barry Ancona (New York, NY)
Some *are* protests. Been there, done that. Oh, and a citation:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/love-in
Deadline (New York City)
I agree with Barry.

I never actually participated in one, preferring the more direct and less campy approach of the sit-in, but I do remember them with a certain fondness.
Martin (California)
This complaint is another of Fact Boy's Greatest Hits. The last time, I posted this contemporaneous article from the Times about Hippies vs. Pigs at a Central Park love-in in 1969.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B01E6D81E39E63ABC4F53DFB...