Teaching Seventh Graders in a ‘Total Mess’ of an Election Season

Oct 19, 2016 · 250 comments
Henrietta Wasserburger (South-Eastern PA)
Needless to say as residents of PA we have been inundated by this election season which has spilled over into both the class room and our home in a most contentious manner. I have 2 daughters aged 12 and 14 and they are bombarded with political ads on their phones, the one they remember most is the Clinton add that quotes Trump's views on women's bodies while it shows young girls in front of a mirror. Even if they weren't growing up in a Dem household, they would have clearly made up their minds by now.
In Social studies the kids are making their own campaign adds and staging a mock debate, which seems to be going fine, but outside of the classroom, the hate has seeped in. My Daughters were born in Europe while we were working for a large US corporation overseas and at school they have been called 'Immigrants' in an effort to imply they are less American as their Trump supporting peers. It makes no difference whether we are or are not immigrants, the fact is, it is meant as a slur.
It has been a sobering and extremely depressing experience for us this election cycle and I fear for the hurt and division this is teaching our young.
george eliot (annapolis, md)
I think the focus should be less on the "tone" of the campaigns as Mr. Wathke and NPR radio are wont to do. Focus instead on the venomous hatred that spews forth from the mouth of Trumpolini. Or is Hillary Clinton supposed to withdraw from the campaign to calm him down?
Dan (Rochester, NY)
As an 8th grade social studies teacher (in Rochester, NY), I can relate to Mr. Wathke! I have to have decided that debate is just not a good idea. The passions of 8th graders often run deeper than their knowledge. The risk of the discussion going off the rails is really just too great this year.

I have always prided myself on being able to keep my students guessing on which party and candidates I support. I'm afraid I was forced to tip my hand this year after Mr. Trump's bus comments.

I feel very strongly that girls, but especially boys need to know that Trump was bragging about sexually assaulting women. There is no other way to view those statements. Whether you believe he actually did them is up to you.

I was so impressed when one of my students (a female), in a reaction to Trump's remarks passionately said "that should not be ok! That is not ok! No one should say those things!". I wish I was a talented enough writer to express how powerfully her words fell upon the class as we digested her sentiment. Her honesty, stating what we inherently know to be true even stopped the "TRUMP TRUMP" chant.

And it has not been heard since.
Dennis D. (New York City)
Our kids, who are in their 40's-50's, refuse to let their children watch news of the campaign other than for the Beeb, PBS, or the broadcast networks which delete the obscenities. I can't believe I just wrote the previous sentence, concerning of all things a presidential election, but there you have it. Our presidential race has become R-rated and should somehow video evidence become available may be headed for an "X" rating. Hard to believe.

DD
Manhattan
Babs (Richmond)
My husband taught 7th grade history in a mostly rural district (that is a hotbed of the Tea Party activism which unseated Eric Cantor).

He introduced issues, devoid of party affiliation. Afterwards, the students were able to see how their own beliefs aligned with the Democratic or Republican agendas. Suffice it to say, many were very surprised to see the results.
Honor Senior (Cumberland, Md.)
Some of our students are smarter and wiser than we think. Avoiding what they already have a clue about instead of teaching them how to handle this information does them a disservice and allows misinformation to flourish; some of our prudishness must needs put behind us.
Jt (Brooklyn)
When I read the words of Connor Felton, 12, : “I think if you repeat some stuff that Trump says, you could get sent down to the principal’s office. Maybe even expelled,” I see that there is some hope for the future generation.
Ken L (Houston)
I feel for these young people; They have to see how dysfunctional and idiotic this Presidential Election is, to say nothing of our Political Parties.

And, as a grown adult, I still don't get all the craziness of this Election.

What a mess!!!
Curt (Montgomery, Ala.)
Jenn Ackerman's photos wonderfully capture the quirkiness of being a middle schooler.
Steve C. (Hunt Valley, MD)
Any adult with a conscience must feel both embarrassed and guilty over what our nation's culture has become. I witnessed an extremely touching and revealing conversation among some 5th grade boys involved in a Camp Invention session who thoughtfully discussed Trump's rhetoric of banning Muslims while they were building a project. The boys included both Muslims and Christians. They were not angry, but were troubled and dismayed over the idea. There was nothing I could teach them. They're ability to remain intelligent and communicate demonstrates a good family environment and gives me hope.
Richard Conn Henry (Baltimore)
Donald Trump has a lot to answer for. And it seems he doesn't even pay federal taxes, like the rest of us do!
Yvonne (Dwyer)
Teacher here. Seems to me that the focus could be changed. A more timely topic could be: How does social media influence the election? Why is all the ugliness so out in the open? Is social media feeding the vile?
omnifoo (Changchun, Jilin, PRC)
Teaching the election in a Chinese university, I plan to show some classic/older debates for a grounding in how they used to be, though the students will be more confused by the complexity of policy than entertained by insults. To stay focused on the issues and avoiding the two-way scandal-slinging, which is working remarkably well so far, we include the platforms of the Libertarian and Green Party candidates. It's a shame they're getting more discussion in the PRC than U.S. classrooms, apparently.
Jim (Long Island, NY)
My kids were in High School during Bill Clinton's presidency. It was an extremely difficult and embarrassing time to try to teach civics.
Bob (Andover, MA)
I found it gratifying to read that the students recognized the antagonism flowing from Mr. Trump, and made no excuses for it. It was interesting that the teacher criticized Secretary Clinton for television ads that simply aired Mr. Trump’s own statements, but not Trump for making the statements in the first place. Has Mr. Trump gone so low that it is now the responsibility of the media and Secretary Clinton to sensor what Trump actually says?
Babs (Richmond)
This really resonates; my husband and I are retired middle school teachers. Having taught during past campaigns, we have discussed repeatedly how very nearly impossible it would be to cover THIS election with pre-teens.

Donald Trump could NEVER be a public school teacher. No parents would tolerate their children being subjected to his indecent bragging, bullying, and shaming.

And yet some are seriously considering him for the most powerful position in the world.
Quilly Girl (Sector Three)
This is the first election year that I am grateful not to be teaching Social Studies. As a retired secondary teacher and active historian, I view this particular election cycle with a jaundiced eye. Social media - facebook, snapchat, twitter, have shallowed our brains to the depth of a sheet of notebook paper. The electorate is now incapable of separating importance from fluff.

The real issues that face our nation have been reduced to the last four minutes of the news hour cycles.
Gwe (Ny)
I have 8th graders and here is what I will say to any parent or educator reading this: THIS is an opportunity.

First a quick side line: I first came across this sort of opportunity when I found my 8 year old daughter watching "The Bachelor". I was all sorts of horrified, but then I sat down next to her, and we watched together. Believe it or not, there are MANY levels of teaching to be found watching The Bachelor. I asked her a lot of questions about her opinions of such and it spurred conversations of things such as women's rights, perceptions, social awkwardness, and best of all, the concept of dignity and respect. I found that The Bachelor was a great illustration of how not to be and a way of teaching it to my child with an actual verifiable lesson. She is 13 now and not only is she a feminist, but she is also kind and nonjudgmental. She learned from watching the Bachelor that people sometimes put themselves in un-winnable situations. That not everyone plays fair. Or behaves.

....and yeah, we stopped after one episode.

Back to the election. We have used this election to talk about character, leadership and the benefits/perils of an open democracy. Michelle Obama gave a master class on sexual harassment. Donald Trump on his own is a master class on "all that glitters isn't gold." Breibart gave them an awesome example of critical reading skills.

I subscribe to letting them gather facts and observe. At 13, they are darn sharp. Turns out they can spot a phony a mile away.
Tom (Midwest)
A question I would have is how much of the political overtones are the children getting from their parents and how much are they arriving at of their own volition. Congrats to the teacher to teach them what a debate should look like as opposed to the "debates" we have seen this campaign season and maintaining civility. Even 12 year olds seem to understand that Trump would be sent to the principal's office.
mwantz (California)
7th grade English teacher here. Today I taught one of my 7th grade boys that Pepe the Frog is regarded as a hate symbol of white nationalism by the Anti-Defamation League and so is not school appropriate and could get him suspended. (He had it as a background picture on his Chromebook). I have no idea if he knew this already. I decided not to ask.
neal (Westmont)
I'm confident you will do the same when your next student wears a New Black Panther Party outfit and/or raises their fist as a show of Black Supremacy. After all all, that same nebulous fundraising organization says they are a hate group too. Key difference : Pepe never killed cops.
Theni (Phoenix)
Seems like the 12 year olds in this classroom have more common sense than the 40% supporting Trump!
Think (Wisconsin)
Where else are these kids going to be able to engage in guided discussion about the presidential campaigns and debates? These televised debates provide the perfect opportunity for young people to discuss their thoughts and opinions. The behavior exhibited by both candidates is no different from what these kids witness on a daily basis - either on television, online, or in person. This is the best and worst of adult behavior.

It is a great opportunity for young people to observe, and then decide for themselves - what do they want to emulate, and, what do they not want to be like, when they grow up?

Perhaps this teacher is afraid of backlash from conservative parents who might voice complaints about political discussions that might be deemed anti-Trump, or an attempt by the teacher to influence their children's thoughts.

To all young people out there - watch the debates. Read the papers. You know the difference between acceptable and unacceptable behavior; right and wrong. Look at what we adults do and say; then decide for yourself how you will live your lives. How to be like us, and how to not be like us.
Teresa (California)
The teacher simply needs to explain that Donald Trump and his followers believe in only allowing people into your country who have applied and have been accepted. Who can argue with that?
Samantha Martin (Indonesia)
I work with college freshmen in Muslim-majority East Java, Indonesia, and my challenges when dealing with the US election are eerily similar. In fact, I--as most other Americans abroad--have been doing damage control for the nation since months back.

There's nothing more chilling and heart-wrenching as having to answer questions like "Will I be able to study abroad in your country?" and "Do Americans think I'm a terrorist?" or "Would I be safe if I apply for a scholarship to the US?" on a regular basis. "Don't they realize we hate ISIS, too?" is also a powerful and sad question to receive; almost as sad as having to explain--while not being quite sure anymore--that that's not my country, you'd be safe, you don't need be fearful of achieving your dream, America would be blessed to have you.

Kids around the world are seeping up this election and its toxic rhetoric like sponges; maybe, hopefully, it'll teach them how awful bigotry and discrimination really is. How hard that this experiential knowledge has to come first hand!
FSMLives! (NYC)
There is no such thing as a 'wise child'. Children simply echo whatever they hear at home.

Nothing new here, move along.
maria5553 (nyc)
No children are not just parrots they have opinions of their own. I know I didn't always agree with my parents, I guess when you don't remember having your own opinion. We won't move along, the terrible choice the republican party is on full display.
boganbusters (Australasia)
"What are the most important issues facing the country?

1. Modern Monetary Theory as foundation of US monetary, fiscal and budget policies along with G-20.

2. Policies/Laws abandoning Rule of Due Process of Law that differentiated US from UK when formed in 1789 causing income inequality, generational lagging in adjusting to advanced economies STEM in job retention/creation and management of inflation limiting the concept of independence.

3. Nuclear war in space, continuation of the 1914 Great War for 102 years with little or no end in sight during the current Brexit, China and US so-called reforms.
Greg B. (New York)
I teach 7th and 8th grade. I think some commenters are a bit naive in thinking that children at that age are not aware of, or exposed to, equally offensive content on social media. They've heard a lot of it, they may even speak that way to their friends. My students know how to debate properly- it's the cornerstone of my curriculum each year. They debate their stances on issues in a more mature and respectable manner than Trump, and many other candidates trotted out in recent years in the primaries, and with relevant evidence, to boot. I give kudos to Wahtke to putting himself under the microscope with this article; now he gets to hear commenters who probably have never set foot in a classroom tell him how he should teach the election. Your strong-arm suggestions remind me of the government overreach into education that has become so cumbersome in the first place.
Curt (Montgomery, Ala.)
Sounds like a fine teacher, careful in his approach, committed to excellence, and a trustworthy role model.

But I bet my secretary earns more than him.

If we want a civil society, one step forward would be to treat teachers as professionals, which means adding about $20k to the salary.
sara (cincinnati)
The article points to the delicate balance that teachers are subject to when discussing certain topics. Politics and religion are two areas that are pretty tricky especially when it comes to kids as young as twelve. First, a teacher must make sure to remain impartial in such discussions (something very difficult to do especially in this year's election). Secondly, children and many adults are not well versed in issues such as taxation, immigration, and trade. I do hope that this young teacher's lessons included lots of background information on these topics and not just on the tone of the debates and on the baser issues. As some of the comments have already pointed out, kids today are not that naive and are inundated with inappropriate language on all fronts. As a teacher at the high school level, my students have seen and heard it all and only a few are insulated from our coarse world. When discussing potentially delicate matters such as race, religion, and politics, it always helps to give the parents a heads up in case some might object.
Carol (SF bay area, California)
Donald Trump, epic narcissist, is apparently blind to the concept that people in a civilized society need to honor the principles of empathy, and civil, respectful behavior, while still allowing for a wide spectrum of differing opinions.

Also, it is so shocking that Trump is addicted to guilt-free, bombastic lying. It is disturbingly apparent that millions of people in our country either can not tell the difference between the truth and a lie, or they are willing to rationalize whopper lies and distortions as an acceptable aspect of their chosen leader and political party.

It seems like Republicans and Democrats now mostly live in different realities operating with different sets of facts.

I wish that more young people could learn the often challenging skill of how to shift out the the truth from a multitude of distortions of the truth. A useful teaching exercise would be to choose a number of ballot proposition proposals, then do web searches to try to find additional facts regarding arguments for and against the ballot issue.
Claire M (Washington, DC)
I've talked 6th graders about the election. They see a lot on the internet, they mimic and repeat memes (often without understanding the joke or cultural references), and they repeat those words that were once reserved to a college sociology classroom but have found their way into mainstream parlance while losing their meaning (and usefulness) along the way. My experience is that kids can be pretty smart - it's not just "this is inappropriate" or "don't say that word" - it's about teaching WHY certain words are hurtful, what they imply, why that's disrespectful. Even "sticking to the issues" leaves out great teachable moments and implies the rest is noise. In talking with 6th graders, I've heard reactions to the election that give me glimmers of hope. My brother, a 6th grader, speaks in ways that suggest he has begun to understand foundations that underpin concepts like privilege, scarcity of resources, and gender disparities. He asks questions I wouldn't have even known to ask at that age. So it's not about shielding children from the election and Trump's hateful rhetoric as much as it is about using it to teach compassion and a complex understanding of our social and political world. We need creative thinkers to puzzle out the future of our political system (the kid making references to The Hunger Games is on to something) and social dynamics. I sincerely hope this nasty yet intriguing election cycle can provide that catalyst for a new generation.
Tina Cassidy (Brookline, Mass.)
My son, a seventh grader, has classmates from Pakistan and Finland and many who are black. Their conversations this school year have been heavy and heartbreaking. One of these conversations happened during Eid. I had taken my son and his Muslim friend to a movie. This sweet immigrant boy, unfamiliar with American elections, asked if he'd be sent home if Trump were elected. We reassured him that he was welcome and safe. After the show, there was a homeless man on the street. The boy went over to the man begging for food and gave him water and $20 -- all the money he had on him. It was his gift money -- from a Muslim holiday!-- he had received that day from relatives. And he generously gave it away. It took my breath away. This is a kid that knows struggle. Who wants to succeed. Who has a kind soul. Who is a good student and a great friend. And he is a seventh grader trying to process this election and fearing its consequences. That's not right.
Jim (Long Island, NY)
Shouldn;t the friend been with his family at mosque during Eid instead of the movies?
Joe (NYC)
Trump has no decency, and the republican party has no way to combat him. I truly think Hillary takes the high road when she can, but there's no disputing what the truth is about trump.

I voted already and felt a great sense of relief when I did. I hope the rest of the country experiences that comfort soon.
Elizabeth Guss (New Mexico)
Seventh graders are remarkable, lovely people. They stand in a magical place - trying on adult behaviors/manners but still refreshingly child-like at the oddest moments. In my seven years of teaching remedial math to seventh graders, I heard kids talk about a lot of life, including the 2008 and 2012 elections. The seventh grade students seemed to be more informed than many adults, in part because of their ubiquitous use of social media. One day a young man asked for a lunchtime appointment -- I thought it was for extra help with fractions. Instead he asked me how he could convince his mom to vote for a different candidate for governor, as he knew her choice was a bad one for "our future." Despite the vile sideshow acts and bombastic threats of doom from Trump, I think most seventh graders have the savvy to weather this campaign. They're smart enough not to look to Trump as a role model (Well, at least the seventh graders I know are).
Mag (california)
This can provide a great teaching moment for the kids. Or, on the other side, you can just turn on South Park for them.
M (New York)
I teach 4th grade in a New York City public school. Many of my kids are confused and scared. One student, whose father is a Muslim immigrant from Algeria, asked if Muslim immigrants will be deported if Trump wins. Today I had to explain the Central Park Five case (adapted for 4th grade ears) because a student heard on the news about Trump's insistence on the guilt of those boys. I have shifted my usual focus on the present election to history. We are studying women's suffrage and the Voting Rights Act, as well as current debates about voter ID and restoring suffrage to ex-convicts. We'll talk about democracy and the growing inclusion of different groups in the electorate over American history. I'm not going to ban talk of the current election, but I've chosen not to focus on it.
Phil (Denver)
I think kids should be exposed to this campaign, so they know which party to support in 6 years. My oldest son has been following closely and is sure he will vote for Clinton, in 2020.
VJBortolot (Guilford CT)
The children are OK.

I'm glad that my oldest grand daughter, at age 9, is still mostly sheltered from this election campaign. I first had an interest when 12, in the '56 election. I liked Ike; still do actually, but feel guilty even today at not appreciating Adlai Stevenson.
Dan Sweeney (PA)
12 year olds should never have eyes that look that sad and haunted unless they live in war zones.

What have we done to our children and our country?
SS (Brooklyn)
They don't look sad and haunted. These are incredible photos by Jenn Ackerman that show a layered deepness to these kids. Beautiful kids and incredible photos.
Bob (NYC)
Why is everyone treating seventh graders like they're made out of spun glass? Politics is a dirty business. That's the real lesson here. These kids have obviously figured that out, and they know better to repeat what Donald Trump, the Republican candidate, has stated out loud for the world to hear. The kids are right; the things Trump says can and SHOULD get you sent to the principal's office, not the White House.

And as far as “so we’re going to stick to the issues today” goes, Trumps comments and actions ARE the issue. Should the next POTUS be a serial groper who feels that he has the right to sexually abuse any woman that he comes across? Why wouldn't THAT be a good topic for a mock debate among seventh graders? Because we have to shield the precious little darlings from "triggers", and give them "safe spaces" with filled with crayons? Wouldn't it be better to teach people how to act towards each other, even if it means holding Trump up as the perfect example of how not to behave?
Edward Lindon (Taipei, Taiwan)
Perhaps seventh-grade girls should not be forced to deal in public with the fact that many men will see them as objects to be demeaned and exploited. Perhaps seventh-grade minority students should not have to defend themselves in public against charges that they are less American than others, that they should "go back home", that they are less valuable or good.

I mean, really, how little empathy and understanding does one have to possess in order to write so dismissively, so condescendingly, and so scornfully of young people, especially young girls and students of color? Much as I dislike resorting to the "What do white males know?" line of argument, which frequently becomes ad hominem and skirts bigotry, I can only think that it is because you, Bob, are a blinkered and sheltered white man that you have so little insight into this situation and so little compassion for these people.
E.G. (New York)
I agree with Edward Lindon. This story doesn't describe a situation about PC safe spaces or triggers. The students are discussing the real matter of the elections, in a serious and thoughtful way. That's what education is about. And it seems like the teacher is navigating it beautifully. The classroom shouldn't be a place for profanity and name-calling -- it sounds like they're managing to discuss what's happening in this election without repeating the slurs themselves.
Benvenuto (Maryland)
History teacher? This chapter is called Black Franchise and the Re-birth of the Ku Klux Klan.
Lisa Wesel (Maine)
Kids aren't stupid. They have an innate sense of what is right and what is wrong, a sense that is sometimes lost in adulthood. Shielding them from this election is a very bad idea, because it provides a profound lesson about the power of hate and propaganda, and the need to confront them both. You don't need to use Trump's foul language in order to teach kids about his foul message. But you do have to teach them. Bravo to this teacher and his students.
Charles Samuel Dworak (Preston ,Victoria, Australia)
So Mr Wathke is teaching his 7th Graders about the 3 branches of government (Executive, Legislative, and Judicial), and how a democracy works. Presumably the democracy he is teaching about is the one created by the Founding Fathers in the U.S. Constitution. Within this framework the President leads the Executive branch. In order for the President to do his or her job effectively it is necessary to work with the Legislative Branch (House and Senate) and the Judicial Branch The Supreme Court, and the lower courts). If any president is ever going to get a decent job done while in office it is critical for that person to be able to work effectively with the "establishment" in Washington. So much has been said during this campaign that Hillary is too much of an "establishment" figure and Mr Trump is supposedly popular because he is "anti-establishment" and argues that the "establishment" figures are getting nothing done. Well, the Constitution makes it necessary for those "establishment " figures to be running the Executive Branch of Government. What Mr Wathke should be teaching his students is that if the general complaint about the American government is that it has been too "establishment" oriented the problem lies with the Constitution, not the President! The solution to to amend the Constitution, NOT elect Donald Trump as President! Under the present system created by the Constitution Hillary Clinton is clearly the one who will do the superior job as President.
Tyrell Nickerson (Indiana)
Teachers are often liberal democrats because they care about universal opportunities. Parents, when Trumpers, teach their kids divisive orthodoxy.

Kids caught between. Teachers then get smeared by parental rhetoric, undermining education.

We should all set the record straight and hand the Dems a landslide mandate. Boycott Trump's brands and divisiveness.
Northpamet (New York)
That teacher, teaching in the same classroom where he was once a student, is the best of America.
Iver Thompson (Pasadena, CA)
Considering what the education experts, politicians and bureaucrats have turned most schools' standard curriculum into, this year's election mess should be one of the easier lessons for the kids to make sense out of.
Koobface (NH)
Four years of Trump will be a real setback for family values.
A. Stanton (Dallas, TX)
Thanks to Donald Trump and only to Donald Trump, U.S. schoolchildren learned a new word last week. That word is groped. Providing he gets elected and his vocabulary lessons continue, I expect to see a significant rise in SAT scores.
Teresa (California)
Do you not remember - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"? Really?
Philip R (New York)
The Hunger games. ... Are these 7th graders already better read than one of our candidates? I wonder how that dystopian view went down in a Wisconsin middle school?
Neal (New York, NY)
"“You have kids saying, ‘We need to have a wall to keep Mexicans out.’ Well, what do you do if you have kids who are Mexican in the class?”"

Not just kids who are Mexican. What about kids of any origins with functioning human hearts and minds? They're being traumatized too.
paula (new york)
For the life of me I can't understand why any of the good people of Wisconsin would expose their children to Trump's behavior for the next 4 years. If a POW is a "loser," you mock a disabled person and yell, "crooked (name)" at your opponent, you are certainly no role model for the nation.
Bill Scanlon (Madison, WI)
As a long time citizen of Wisconsin, I can say with great confidence that Trump will be decisively defeated here, though sadly he will get more than the 0 votes he should.
Omar (USA)
"'We self-censor a lot,' said Connor Felton, 12. 'I think if you repeat some stuff that Trump says, you could get sent down to the principal’s office. Maybe even expelled.'

So telling, and so sad. When will we recognize that Trump's attack on what he calls "political correctness" is merely a boorish whine against decency?
Ed (Old Field, NY)
Some of the content of elections is not suitable for those under 18. Parents should know better.
Ian MacFarlane (Philadelphia PA)
The reality is that these very young people are the ones on whom the burden of this election will fall. It is the political composition and make up of their future world which others are deciding and they, and those of their age, should be made aware just how this is done.

My sense is the thought must be firmly planted in their growing minds that the world they inherit is being decided as it always has with little consideration of them or their worlwide peers in mind.

I suspect most of those who seek leadership do so in order to advance themselves and those who share their often narrow views.
While we are separated at birth and often raised with supernatural beliefs which cannot be applicable to all people and should remain personal our politics must include all.

Entering into a dialogue which, if it is to remain in the realm of reason, consider all people, and find the common denominator among us as the place to start will not happen if the discussion is avoided by however well intentioned adults.

Trust isn't something that should be limited to families or small groups of people who share similar thoughts. If our intent is to have a participatory democracy we have to be exposed to and modified by other's thought and experience.

Schools such as DeLong carry names of families who engaged in the growth of our nation and the best way to carry that tradition forward is to expose and engage students in, rather than remove them from, political discussion.
Thomas Green (Texas)
A perfect opportunity to emphasize why being educated is important.
FXF (Quechee, Vermont, USA)
Seventh Grade. Let me tell you a story about Donald Trump in 7th grade. This is a story I first heard in the 1980s, after I shared an anecdote with my maternal aunt (and godmother) about being in an elevator with Steinbrenner and hearing him ranting about Trump trying to be the big man in NYC by signing Herschel Walker. 'Oh, Donald Trump, let me tell you a story about him. I was his 7th grade teacher. it was one of my first jobs. At Christmastime that year I brought some of the Christmas cookies I made with your grandmother to school. Each was beautifully wrapped and I put them out on a silver platter I borrowed from my mom. This was a fancy private school and I made sure everything was just right. At the end of class, I invited the children to come up and take one of my Christmas cookies. Donald Trump jumped up and shouted "Don't touch them! She's poisoned them!" He was the class bully and the other kids looked fearfully at him. They filed out, leaving the cookies behind.'
Sadly, my godmother passed away in the mid 1990s so she isn't alive to tell this herself. But one of her sisters -- my mom -- and two of my uncles have vivid memories of her coming home crushed and telling this awful story. As Trump rose in prominence, they remembered, and it became a piece of family lore.
joegrink (philadelphia)
yes it's hard to believe that Trump was a class bully. perfect!
Bill Scanlon (Madison, WI)
Why has the Times not recommended this? It is disgusting that it hasn't.
FunkyIrishman (Ireland)
Perhaps, instead of teaching our next generation what is going today, ( a lot of it shameful ) that we emphasize on how they can change tomorrow and how empowered they can be.

Teach them civics, volunteerism and community. All of our futures depend on it.
Lowenburg (Stroudsburg, PA)
Congratulations to Mr. Wathke for taking advantage of the teachable moment by facing up to the classroom challenges posed by this surrealistic political season. When I was Mr. Wathke's age, I too taught seventh grade social studies. There was no internet then, much less social media. It was hard to get students beyond the first layer of facts back then -- who were the candidates, what did they believe in, etc. Today, everyone, not just junior high students, suffers from the opposite: too much information. How to process it. Who to believe.

I still work in education, nowadays at a high school. Thanks to various anti-bullying initiatives over the years - which began in large part in the LGBT community - young people are much more aware and vocal in reacting to the kind of unconscionable behavior Trump is trying to pass off as normal.

To all the teachers out there grappling with teaching this election: keep going. Yes, it's frustrating and exhaustive. But it's vital work and will be rewarding. Education is the foundation of a successful democracy.
Jeff Lippman (Paris, France)
Teaching about the election this year has been a true challenge. As the principal of an American School in Paris and a former social studies teacher, I have really struggled with what it means to be impartial and allow students to openly debate the issues of this election. So clearly there are things that Trump represents that go contrary to our values as a school. To remain silent on that front would be the same as complicity. I have written a blogpost about this topic and I am hoping to generate conversations between educators around the world on this front. You can read it here: http://leadlearnerinternational.blogspot.fr/2016/09/the-bully-pulpit.html
Kay (California)
There's a reason kids this young can't vote. I was in 6th grade during a presidential election, and it was just lightly touched on in school, because I was a kid, and throwing politics at kids, with issues they are too immature and inexperienced to understand, is just ridiculous.

The hunger games comment is evidence enough that these kids are just kids, and not mature enough to make informed decisions about politics. I think this election season has shown that many adults can't make informed decisions, so why would children be able to?

It's good for our students to be taught how the government works. Trying to get them to make sense of any election, let alone the reality TV-esque one we're currently in, is silly.

Further, unless the teacher is completely torn between the two candidates, there's going to be bias thrown in with the teaching, whether it's deliberate or not. It's unavoidable.
Philip R (New York)
The Hunger games is exactly why these students should be taught political discourse. They are the future and will pay for our debts and global warming.
Anonymous (Orange County)
The Hunger Games was about putting different groups of people against each other so that an authoritarian figure could control them.

The kid's comment was spot on.
Brooklyn resident (Brooklyn, NY)
I was also in the 6th grade (during the 1972 presidential election) and political events were discussed all the time in the classroom. We used to debate the redneck teacher who was a NIxon supporter. Perhaps it was the way we were brought up back then--dinner conversations were about the Vietnam War, Tricky Dick and all his shenanigans, Save the Earth movement, and women's equality.
We even joked about it when we were in high school as those kids who were Republican in 1972 became Democrats by 1976.
KH (Seattle)
The longer this "race" goes on, the more I am reminded of the storyline from Back to the Future II, the one in which a corrupt future version of Biff Tannen rules Hill Valley as owner of a corrupt casino in Hill Valley. That was in the fictional year 2015. Seems that movie was spot on, only having missed the date by one year...
Dylan111 (New Haven)
I've been teaching 7th grade social studies for 26 years and always looked forward to election years because many of my students would become so engaged in the process of picking a president. Of course I have encouraged my students to watch at least 15 minutes of the debates, starting with the primaries and always received positive feedback from parents who were happy to see their children immersed in the arguments of the candidates.

But this year as I sat and watched Donald Trump and Marco Rubio go at each other over the size of Trump's "fingers," and then listened to Mr. Trump assure everyone that there was "no problem" down there, I regretted my assignment. Sure enough the next day a parent whose older children had previously taken my class, and who had always lifted the no-tv-during-the-week-rule in her home because she wanted politically aware children, told me that she never thought she would be stuck for an answer when her daughter turned to her at that point in the debate and asked what Mr. Trump was talking about.

What could I say? From that point on, I just didn't feel safe subjecting 12-year-olds to the current political discourse. But I was thinking of once again encouraging my students to watch the Clinton-Trump match-up when the Access Hollywood tape broke. Sigh. Recently, I emailed parents and told them that the decision to watch the debates would be left up to them.

It's a difficult time to be a social studies teacher and an American citizen.
Martina Catherin Weindling (Barrington, IL)
Kids absolutely do pay attention to the tone of elections.
My father turned eight shortly before the election of 1928 and fifty years later he told me how scared he was, being Catholic, because of all the vile anti-Catholic propaganda against candidate Al Smith.
The hate and fear that run through this campaign will scar another generation, mark my words.
underwater44 (minnesota)
The first presidential election I took an interest in was Kennedy vs. Nixon. I remember my friend's father saying that if Kennedy were elected we would all be answering to the Pope and we would be going to war.
Alex Kent (Westchester)
Amazing. I was raised in a Southern Baptist home in Florida in 1960 and went to bed the night of the election thinking that I would have to become a Catholic. Then I heard nothing about it for the next few days and decided I could stay a Baptist. My guess is the kids will figure this out if we let them.
Bos (Boston)
There is hope for America!
Donna (California)
What are teachers and administrators to do? Two adults old enough to be Grandparents to these kids; one hurling the most vile insults at- "everyone"; the other finding it all but impossible to admit to mistakes. Yet- any one of these student would be suspended if using similar bullying language and similar behavior:" Do as I say- not as we adults do".
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Exactly, what I teach my kids: don't grow up to be Donald or Hillary, you're better than that.
fastfurious (the new world)
This is Trump's legacy: hate, fear, mistrust, intentionally provoking violence and racism, sowing distrust in our electoral process without any evidence there is fraud, lowering the tone of discourse in our elections likely for years to come because he has no compassion and no empathy, allowing his mental illness and paranoia to drive all policy discussions while ignoring facts and which issues are critical to the American people. His constant ranting, yelling, threatening people.

That's a lot of bad vibes and miserable intention.

I hope Trump will take his loss like an adult (fat chance) and will then go away and shut up.

I doubt he'll do that. My fear is that he will do everything possible to keep the media focused on him after losing the election and the media, which is obsessed with his bad behavior and with getting ratings, will continue to give him wall to wall coverage because it financially benefits them, i.e. he increases their profits.

If the media will not be responsible covering Trump when this election is over, the problems caused this country by all the attention paid to him will get worse. In that sense, Trump and the media are in cahoots. They both profit financially from Trump getting attention.

We deserve better. Nothing about Trump has benefited the people so far. Why doesn't the media care about the welfare of the people more than their stupid profits?
Kathleen (Chicago)
As a former teacher of language arts and humanities, I fear this teacher is missing a huge learning opportunity. It's not just about helping students understand the issues; it's helping them see the roots of the vitriol and deep divide that's become so evident this election cycle. Digging deep into human behavior and how it interfaces with economics and politics, all at an age-appropriate level, is critical, especially for these young adults who are old enough to understand the motivations behind those who support both candidates.
Carol (California)
They look so young! Yet that is the age I was when I started reading political articles in the newspaper, Time magazine, and Newsweek magazine back in the 1960s.

One thing I do remember was that no current political issues or candidates were discussed in class. None. Perhaps it was verboten back then. In the hallways, yes, among students passing from class to class or just waiting, but in class, not at all.
Solomon Grundy (The American Shores)
Kids, what this election teaches us is that the Democrat Party has corrupted the FBI, the DOJ, and the IRS. Side deals, quid-pro-quo, BleachBit, ignoring subpoenas, sacrificing ambassadors' lives to maintain war narratives, seeking jail for journalists . . .

If you vote Democrat, you are voting for corruption.

Lesson over.
Dylan111 (New Haven)
What your comment tells me is that you never had social studies teacher who taught you to investigate both sides of an issue or event. You're purposely building a one-sided case without any evidence; it's called card-stacking, and it's a classic propaganda technique of dictators.
Al (NYC)
Yes! They should be learning how to rape and cheat on taxes!
Omar (USA)
+1 for satire! I love how you so courageously call out the one-sided, one-dimensional thinking of the hyper-partisans of the Right. You even ape their intentional mis-naming of the Democratic Party! I agree with you, it's hard to understand how thinking people can be so intellectually disingenuous, so intentionally myopic, that they would blame literally everything on one political party! Well done, sir.
KS (USA)
I'm so glad that my kids are only 5 and 7 and are still mainly clueless as to how horrific this election campaign has been. I have always taught my kids that treating people the way you would want to be treated is the golden rule in life. I can't imagine having to explain how someone so vile, disrespectful and unqualified as Trump has made it this far. It's hard for even me, a grown adult, to wrap my head around
Fred Nye (Millerton, NY)
Having taught U.S. History and Government for 40 years, I thank God I'm retired and don't have to try to carry on a serious debate on the important issues of the day only to have my students return again and again to the gutter politics promulgated by a man who lacks any sense of decency and decorum.
Ragz (Austin, TX)
Its a sad time when speeches of Presidential candidate have to be marked as might contain profanities and inappropriate language....
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
It's the 90s all over again. Perhaps Wahtke could go to an older colleague for advice on how Bill Clinton was discussed during his lurid heyday.
Max Ballonoff (Canada)
I admire Mr. Wathke's teaching principles and methods, and I think he should also be teaching future social studies teachers. Excellent person!
Moti (Reston, VA)
My son's 6th grade math teacher gave a lesson around Trump's false equivalencies (example: comparing total number of deaths in Afghanistan to those in Chicago). My son said he really enjoyed the lesson, because it made the math real. Perhaps there are a few adults ...
Martin (ATL)
There a lot of Real Life you can make difficult Math Problems out of . ...Nuff Said!
Moti (Reston, VA)
Wow ... didn't expect someone to prove my point so quickly. Thanks jacobi. False equivalencies, simply put, occur when a person compares "apples to oranges". They are not a valid comparisons. Politicians sometimes use them to sway public opinion, and they are especially effective when the audience doesn't use their critical thinking skills to evaluate the comparison.
Brad Blumenstock (St. Louis)
Perhaps you should educate yourself on the matter.
hen3ry (New York)
As this campaign season continues I'm reminded of this from the 1988 election campaign: Quayle said, "I have as much experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the presidency." "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy," Dukakis's running mate, Lloyd Bentsen, responded. "Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."

I'm so sorry that this is not what our students are seeing: adults debating issues that matter to all of us. The GOP with Trump as the nominee has hit new lows almost every week. Rather than demonstrating that they care about America and her citizens they are proving that all they want is power. Children may not be able to reason the same way adults do because they lack the life experience but they can tell when someone is being unfair. They can also tell the difference between bullying and making a point. The debates have been an excellent showcase for how to behave like an adult and how to be a bully, a loudmouth, and a liar.

Perhaps the GOP should be reminded that what they are doing is showing the future of our nation how not to run a country, how not to attract voters, and how not to be adults. The only thing missing from Trump's performance is him throwing himself on the floor screaming and pounding his fists. Otherwise he's done every other trick in the book. If the GOP won't apologize to these future voters I will: I'm sorry they are seeing this sort of politics. It's inappropriate.
R (Kansas)
Try teaching in rural America where Trump is king and everything HRC says is taken as false. The parents have set the standard of race and sex, the students often follow suit. Sometimes all you can do is plead with students to use evidence when making decisions.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Last I heard Kansas didn't have bars on the door keeping you in. But, you're always at home with weepy plaints in the NYT comment section.
Jon A (Baltimore)
and pockets of this very Democratic state too....evidence doesnt seem to matter to the Trump supporters
SuomiJ (Seattle)
I feel so sorry for the teachers in those rural conservative counties, and I am especially concerned
The Reverend (Toronto, Canada)
I watched the press conference with Obama and Italy's PM Renzi and listened to the thoughtful, introspective and measured remarks of the president over a wide range of topics.

I proceeded to envision a President Trump in this very setting; fielding questions from the press corps; and caught myself laughing, then crying in hysterics and ending up very depressed over how this buffoon could come within inches of being entrusted with the office he seeks.

Say it ain't so, America. You may or may not be the greatest country, but no country deserves Trump as dog-catcher, let alone president.
Eb (Ithaca,ny)
Well, he is polling at 35-37% now. It is at least consoling that 6 in 10 get this. How many people here really get that 35% and know enough people in that group to understand their mix of motivations? I only read about them. I have no idea what percent really are the deplorables (KKK types) vs intellectually stuck in middle or high school vs incapable of voting for a woman for president vs honestly so disgusted with HRC and BC that they somehow rationalize DT (I don't quite get that either, but somehow its not as deplorable).
TonyLederer (Sacramento)
Teaching 12th grade is a challenge too!
Human (Planet Earth)
At my daughters NYC UWS public middle school, they also must have thought the current debate was too dirty and the issues too divisive.

Instead, to teach the children about democracy, they have made up two new parties with different positions, and have a mock campaign and election for these pretend parties.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Well, that is awesome: someone has to teach our children that a country of 350 million people with only two parties is no way to govern.
Andrew (Baltimore)
This is actually the ideal election during which one could teach about the democratic process. That's because Trump has forced the campaign back to the real issues that neither party wanted to talk about, the inconvenient truths about producers and takers, who benefits from NAFTA and corruption at the highest levels.
Bernie and Trump share a common theme, having had the democratic process undermined, revealing a rigged game.
Plenty of Americans see themselves in this narrative and kids should too.
Devon (El Paso)
Producers and takers? talking to "slacker nation?" sorry but that defines much of the Trump segment, not "working class."
Jen (WA)
Reading your comment, I realized something that hasn't occurred to me before. I've wondered what has been motivating Mr Trump, a 1-percenter and obvious beneficiary of what Mr Sanders calls "the rigged economy", to take up the rallying cry of Mr Sanders and others who have pointed out the inequality that has raised Mr Trump and his fellow billionaires to such high status while leaving everyone else to scramble for whatever is left over. It couldn't possibly be that he has true empathy or sympathy for those at the bottom of the ladder, as he has shown little interest in anyone not in his social class of high-rolling, high-achieving men. And then I realized - he doesn't believe any of it, any more than he truly believes in "building a wall" between the US and Mexico, which he knows full well would be crippling to him and every other hotelier in the nation. He is purely and simply saying what he knows will be popular, and if that means parroting anti-establishment rhetoric that he clearly has no reason to agree with himself, so be it. Mr Trump is for Mr Trump.
maisany (NYC)
Yeah, let's turn helicopter parents into black helicopter parents. Great idea.
TA (NY)
Trump and his talk goes against all the anti-bullying rhetoric that's been banged relentlessly into students over the past 10 years. It makes what adults enforce, especially in schools, redundant. They see through the hypocritical programs put upon them, D.A.R.E. is another. What they teach and the reality of life are two totally different things today. Kids are much smarter today, in part due to the internet. Much more than most 'grown-ups' did at their age.
OD (UK)
My ten-year-old is fascinated by politics but between Brexit and the US election, he's getting a pretty horrible introduction to it this year. At least he's learned some new words. And he's learned that he'd better get a university degree or end up lost, poor, clueless, bitter and deplorable.

One bright spot: whenever I want to show my kids an example of all that is noble and valuable about public service, and all the good that learning can bring, I can simply point to the Obamas.
Todd Fox (Earth)
What words did they learn? I learned "pussybow."
Todd Fox (Earth)
I sincerely hope you were being ironic when you suggest that he's learned that he'd better get a university degree or else end up "clueless and bitter."
KRyan (NYC)
I would a group of kindergarten teachers to harshly school Mr. Trump on what is acceptable behavior and what is not. I encourage all teachers to uphold high moral standards of acceptance, courtesy and decency so that students of all ages do not regress to the behavior of a misbehaving kindergartener.
Sally Brown (Barrington, Il.)
Thanks to teacher,Mr.Wathke, for his diligent attempt to teach the democratic process in the time of Trump. Julie Bosman's fine article really "tells it like it is" :Trump 's presence embarrasses us in front of our young people.
sarsaparilla (louisville, ky)
The second paragraph of the article tells us: "Television ads, particularly the ones from Hillary Clinton’s campaign that heavily quote Donald J. Trump, are filled with misogynistic comments."

Hillary alone is responsible for the atmosphere of her campaign.

Time after time, no matter who her opponent is, she goes low.

If only the candidates had the intelligence and grace to model these seventh graders and focus on the issues.
Theresa (Stockton, CA)
So Hillary Clinton is responsible for the tone of this election because she points out what her opponent has actually said?

Of course Donald Trump's advertisements will be carefully massaged by his team to keep all those hateful comments out, to not reveal the true personality of their candidate.

But Hillary Clinton would be irresponsible NOT to point out what Trump himself says.
Susan M. Lloydl (Rutland. VT)
Please tell Hillary -- to distinguish herself from Trump by speaking softly and clearly so that we'll be able to hear her message instead of her stridency. Fewer smiles. Steer debate toward the practical successes and proposals for a national and planetary future that everyone should know about.
John (San Francisco, CA)
You're being facetious, right, to say "Hillary alone is responsible"? Did you read the article correctly - her ads are full of misogynistic comments because they quote Trump. A teacher could raise the issue of why negative advertising is used (because it's effective, whether we like it or not) or discuss political strategy, but she'd be a fool not to use Trump's words against him.
Hugo Rojas (California)
When Trump announced his candidacy he called all Mexicans rapists and criminals. In this article, a child born in Wisconsin of Mexican immigrants, and as a 12 year old, knows the hurt of being intentionally marginalized. Half of the class is probably children of Trump supporters and are repeating what they hear from their parents. Then these 7th graders realize that their 12 year classmate and friend is not a criminal and a rapists. What are these so called leaders leaders teaching our children. The rest of the world, educated and informed persons, are looking at the US as racist and ignorant.
PaulB (Cincinnati, Ohio)
I don't know if a Clinton ad that ran repeatedly here in Ohio (but not recently) was shown in Wisconsin, but the ad quite forcefully showed, in images of kids, precisely what is now coming to fruition in this 7th grade classroom. The ad shows youngsters in different settings watching television, which shows Trump in many of his finer moments (Megyn Kelly, "get them outta here," etc). The voiceover at the end of the ad stated simply, "our children are watching."
Socrates (Downtown Verona, NJ)
But the 2016 election still remains one of the most powerful teaching moments in American history.

It teaches Americans that when you have a major political party - the Republican Party - that systematically propagandizes, prevaricates and preaches poppycock to the American people for decades, your party will be inexorably be reduced to a cognitively dissonant bucket of incoherence, dark fantasies and cultured stupidity that eventually nominates a bankrupt, narcissistic, bloviating entertainer as its standard bearer.

The Republican Party has very effectively bankrupted itself over the course of time and Donald Trump is the end result --- a Republican Presidential nominee that is driving his party off a cliff.

The Republican Party built the Donald Trump 2016 Presidential Car Crash through 35 to 50 years of catering to the worst instincts of Americans - greed, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, medievalism, and fake religiosity.

There's an important lesson to be taught.

Don't destroy your own political party - and your own country - with a Party First-Country Last nihilistic political strategy.

I'm sure children can understand that lesson, but it remains doubtful that modern Republicans can digest that lesson.
Northpamet (New York)
I've never heard this said better. That's a social studies text this country should study.
MH (Quogue, NY)
The problem with shielding children from the heinous things Trump does and says, is that it allows them to form opinions about the election and the candidates (at a formative age) that are not based upon fact. I'm struggling with that reality with my own children, ages 10 and 12. They are kind and sensitive children, but whose loudest peers at school are espousing their support for Trump on a daily basis. The other kids, don't feel comfortable challenging their chants. I have chosen to show my children even the otherwise inappropriate aspects of this election, because if I don't, they will not have the required information to nurture their own moral compass. The sad truth is that Trump has proved to be a cancer on our society and the morality of a nation. He has pushed boundaries of decency that should never be pushed in a civilized society.
Kathleen B (Massachusetts)
I applaud this teacher for guiding his students through this election! We need more of this in our schools.
Noel (Cottonwood AZ)
Blame the Republicans for propping up a man with no morals, no intelligence and no shame. They could have pulled the plug on Tump by unilaterally voicing their total disdain for him. The Democratic Party is fighting the good battle alone. What did the public expect from this election? A remake of The Brady Bunch?
Andrew (Baltimore)
And Hilary has morals....Right.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Blame the head of the Democratic party and the FBI for letting Hillary off the hook, teaching our 7th graders that some are above the law.

The Democratic party teaches 7th graders that voices within their own party can be squelched.

The Democratic party teaches 7th graders that they to can collude with the press to sway debates and determine which facts are given air time.
Jason R (New York, NY)
Don't kid yourself. There is no good battle being fought here by either one of them. Hillary is the poster child for old style politics as usual. She is beyond arrogant and there is a reason most Americans do not find her trustworthy. Add to that she is actually more hawkish than Trump and is salivating to get our troops in Syria, as if she shouldn't have already learned her lesson after Iraq and Libya. This lifelong Democrat is voting Libertarian this year.
India (KY)
Why is this teacher teaching "politics" and not government and history? Politics has no business in a middle school classroom. They need to know the history of our country and about how our government works.
Gia (<br/>)
Presidential elections are part of "how our government works"!
Dr Bob in the Bronx (Bronx)
But our government doesn't work, because of politics!
PCW (Cleveland)
Ummm... Maybe because "the history of our country" and "how government works" is intertwined with politics?
Benvenuto (Maryland)
I'm at a loss to know why the rule of law is suspended for a campaign. For example, seeing a man in a funny hat promise (national tv) to assassinate the Democratic candidate if she wins. Why isn't he isn't in a jail cell, awaiting trial? Or, watching a 'sheriff' (Deputy Dawg?) call for a lynch mob with "pitchforks and torches." Klan rallies may be legal but not the crimes they promote.
Annie Chesnut (Riverside, CA)
Thank you. The most obscene result of this campaign season to date, in my view, is Mr. Law and Order, Rudy Giuliani, praising WikiLeaks for illegally hacking into American email accounts. I'd love to see The Mayor turn on a dime if someone who matters to him is ever exposed via hacking. Talk about situation ethics!
surgres (New York)
How can a teacher make sense of an election when both candidates are acting like spoiled teenagers?
The real problem is that the press should have pointed out the horrors of Trump during the primaries. Instead, they enabled him will billions are dollars of free campaign coverage, and now they are gleeful that he is taking down the republican party.
Once you give the devil a microphone, you can't complain when he hurts the people who hear him...
DRS (New York, NY)
I have an 8 year old that asks about the election as his friends are talking about it. I explain that unfortunately this time we have to choose between someone who is a bit crazy and someone else who is a liar. He's horrified, as am I.
Jen (WA)
Yes, Hillary is a bit crazy, isn't she. That wacky dame, with her ridiculous notions about being prepared for the highest office in the land, her silly idea that women should make crucial decisions about their own bodies, and that kooky plan allowing every person whose family isn't wealthy to go to college for free.

Wait, that's not what you meant?
Mike (Newport News, VA)
They are both liars, so what we really have to choose from in this election is a "bit crazy" liar and the archetypal politician (read liar). I know the presidential candidate offerings suck, but I'll stick with the liar I know rather than the one I don't.
Hooj (London)
But why be horrified DRS?

After all you're had a president with senile dementia and a president who told lies to justify a war. And at the time it seemed like the whole country lauded both of them.... and denigrated anyone who pointed out there was reason to be horrified.
E.E. (NH)
Our middle school in New Hampshire has decided not to cover the presidential race and concentrate on down-ticket races instead. This is sad state of affairs.
Annie Chesnut (Riverside, CA)
Absolutely sad, but also a brilliant way to include current affairs in the curriculum -- making it possible for kids to perhaps learn how all politics starts at the local level.
E Dodge (Rochester)
How I wish my local middle school had taken the same approach
RFE (Indiana)
I wish Mr. Wathke and his seventh graders could moderate the last presidential debate!
Martin (ATL)
Salute this teacher for trying to explain this election to seventh-graders ... it gets difficult and awful Even For Me.
Marsha (San Francisco)
It's abhorrent that we should have to shield our children from this tawdry presidential campaign and the misogyny and racism of one of its candidates. I applaud those teachers who are nimble and insightful enough to extract important lessons from this mess about the importance of civility and decency, even (or especially) when discussing politics.
Georg Witke (Orlando, FL)
Why struggling? And what "total mess" obfuscation in your title? It is a mess only 50%. This is very clear topic for discussion in classrooms: rising violence in political discourse, quiz fascist, dictatorial behavior of ONE of the candidates, machismo, sexism, verbal aggression, hatred of women, lack of social consciousness, etc etc. This is a treasure throve for any teacher worthy of his or her salt. And I am writing as a college professor that I am. Teach the children the pitfalls of current American politics on the part of GOP (hatred of women, etc, all of who which Donald Trump represents beautifully). That is all.
Cornflower Rhys (Washington, DC)
The campaign is not a total mess except for the fact that one candidate, Donald Trump, is not a politician and has never held elected office and he says loads of things that are patently false. He also espouses policies and positions that are not those of the party he supposedly represents, the Republican Party, e.g. women should have paid maternity leave. It should be pretty easy to explain these things.
Montreal Moe (WestPark, Quebec)
I have been talking a lot about Socrates lately and why he was forced to drink the Hemlock. I think there are a great many Americans who feel the way I do maybe drinking the Hemlock was merciful and living in post election America may be cruel and unusual punishment.
Not every Canadian is as closely connected to the USA as I am but every night we are forced to share the fear and the pain of the American electorate. Even though our absentee ballots are in the mail and there is really little we can do to help other than put in some extra beds and bathrooms for family. Sleeping isn't all that easy when you wake up in the middle of the night to check the NYT and the Washington Post to find out if the nightmare was real.
Groll (Denver)
This post if by jroll:

The story of Socrates and the hemlock is critically important and ofter not recounted correctly. Socrates chose to drink the Hemlock; his students had a boat waiting to take him into exile and he declined. He argued that he lived under the law by which he was now condemned to death. He had not protested the law when he had the chance and now that it applied to him, he felt he must follow it. I remember what a profound impact that had on me; the law above all.
Montreal Moe (WestPark, Quebec)
jroll,
Thank you for your note on Socrates.
The Canadian historian, philosopher, writer and public intellectual John Ralston Saul devotes a good deal of time to why he allowed the trial to proceed even with its forgone conclusion and his knowledge that the Athenians had very little love for the death penalty. The Doubter's Companion (A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense) is a book well worth carrying around this season of total madness.
Why Socrates stayed and allowed the sentence to be carried out is a beginning not the end of a story that began 240 years ago.
backfull (Portland)
Mr. Wathke appears to be doing a great job. What an inspiration. Just to be clear, there would have been no problem viewing and discussing the Democratic primary candidate debates. On the other hand, the Republicans were X-rated and full of falsehoods from the beginning. And one of the main perpetrators is still in the middle of it.
Dr. Jen Green (Stanford, Ca)
As I applaud this wonderful deeply caring and inspirational teacher, I weep for the moment when children find injustice, prejudice, hatefulness, lewdness and vulgarity exists alongside good, love, inclusion - and that adults are flawed. These kids are brave and beautiful and let's hope one of them or kids like them still feel inspired to lead our country some day.
galtsgulch (sugar loaf, ny)
As a teacher, I remember how disgusted I was during the Bill Clinton years as headline after headline shared his infidelities with the nation on a topic I would have rather shielded my students from.
That now seems so much tamer as I see misogynistic ranting and objectification of women considered to be acceptable discourse.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
The pass that Bill and Hillary received in the 90s didn't serve to close the issue, just the opposite.
Annie Chesnut (Riverside, CA)
Well, if I ever get a "pass" from the American press and public, I hope it doesn't include impeachment and decades of harassment.
Dylan111 (New Haven)
Do you honestly think Bill Clinton's affairs would be mentioned nearly as much if Hillary was running again Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or John Kasich? Trump's own reported behavior is what revived it. And his own inability to talk about substantive issues.

You certainly didn't hear this talk from Bernie Sanders in his battle with Hillary for the nomination.
Leslie (New York, NY)
I would suggest going back to basics… the structure of government and what it takes to get anything done. Once you have a grasp of that, you can listen to campaign speeches and evaluate whether they’re true, possible or relevant.

Build a wall? Not unless Congress passes it. Put Hillary in jail? They can discuss how the law works, the presumption of innocence, what constitutes evidence. In this campaign, far too much is being made of poll numbers and other irrelevant information. Poll numbers aren’t governing ideas. Why don’t voters know that? Trump does have character issues, but Mr. Wathke could teach a meaningful class without even going there. I don’t think Mr. Wathke should give up.
Groll (Denver)
This post is by jroll:

The teacher in question is teaching about government and the three branches of the federal government.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
I'm sure teachers avoided going there in the 90s with Bill Clinton. Oh right, he's a Democrat.
Jacqueline (New England)
As a Registered Nurse I have taken care of patients of every ethnicity, every religious persuasion, every level of status and income for over 30 years. At no time did it ever occur to me to base my care on whether a person deserved it or not...citizen, immigrant, refugee, homeless, medicaid, medicare, Obamacare, VIP, criminal or gender. To me, everyone bleeds the same, needs compassionate care, wants to be cured. Trump has demonstrated time and time again he does not share that vision and apparently neither do 30 million of his followers. But the most shocking thing I have heard out of his own mouth was when he told his followers recently..."If you are dying, the last thing you need to do is vote for me. Nothing else is as important. Make it till Nov 8. After that you can go." That is the epitome of selfishness and arrogance and clearly shows me this is not a man who is a a winner or an exceptional example of what constitutes human decency. This is a time when end of life should be about bringing your family close, resolving conflicts close to your heart, leaving your last words with your children, spouse, friends or significant other. This is the example he wants to lead this country with. This is the future he wants to give our children and our citizens. At 56, I have always been able to say Americans were known for their compassion around the world. I can't say that anymore if Trump becomes President. But my nursing care will not change because everyone bleeds the same.
Bill Scanlon (Madison, WI)
It breaks my heart - literally makes me weep - that your comment has not been "recommended" by almost everyone and by the Times. The Times must be asleep at the switch.
RW (Massachusetts)
I applaud to what Mr. Wathke did, by allowing his class to have this discussion.
When I was at the same age as Mr. Wathke's students', my teachers never held such discussion in a "relatively" diverse school in Texas. But, I experienced several incidents associated with race. In a world geography class, when the teacher passed out boxes of Crayola Multicultural crayons. (Which was once temporarily sold in the market.) Several classmates immediately associated my skin color to one of the crayons and joked about Asian culture. She was not able to stop two black students from what they were doing. Instead, she held a private conversation with me by saying we are the same.
Later in English class, the teacher assigned her students to designated desks. While she mixed the white and blacks in one large area, she segregated me and my classmate in the back of class. we were the only two Asian in the class. We couldn't complain because fear of being suspended.
Riding the bus home, my friend once said she was forbidden by her parents, to sit with me because I did not share same race and religion as her.
As a Chinese American growing up in an immigrant household, I found that both sides of my parents and teachers share racial prejudices on each other. Racism is a taught behavior.
Adults forget that a child's mind, especially ages between 8 -12, is critical in development, both physically and psychological. The way we are as adults are reflected upon from people around us.
Ned Welch (Toronto)
Notwithstanding the shockingly inappropriate language of the (Trump) campaign, having students in class who attended rallies for one candidate or another presents a valuable teaching moment. I'd love to hear kids describe how they felt and what they thought during these rallies. It's an entry point for discussing how crowds and passion affect us, perhaps in ways that aren't consistent with how/what we think at other times. That seems like valuable reflection for everyone.
Rachel (New York)
The only good thing about this election is that it has gotten young people interested in politics.
Andrew (Baltimore)
Sounds like you care more about decorum rather than substance.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Everybody understands spectacle.
bb (berkeley)
What an awful role model Trump is for children of all ages.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Super heroes and super villains both inform decisions on one's own role .
Mebster (USA)
The insane rhetoric of Trump's presidential campaign really is more old than new. Dredge up some antique newspaper editorials about Jackson, Jefferson, Adams and Lincoln, the editorial cartoons are particularly enlightening. (the Lincoln presidential museum in Springfield, IL has a good display of these). It's useful to teach how compromise - and sometimes bloody war - grows out of political rhetoric. Jefferson and Jackson were slimed with sexual scandals. Lincoln portrayed as a gorilla and a woman, etc.
Donna (California)
reply to Mebster: You are correct, however- None of these children have any knowledge of that. Their only exposure , is the History being presented in the here & now.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Right, the 'journalists' of today encourage ad revenue same as ever.
Jon A (Baltimore)
Yes, see Alan Taylor's article in the New York Times editorial/commentary page yesterday: "Our Feuding Fathers" My students are reading it right now.
Not Amused (New England)
We adults bemoan the lack of substantive policy discussion in this election cycle...SO...I can see very real possibilities to edit online videos so that, for instance, a moderator's question could be asked...then look at each candidate's answer (without the insulting language) and analyze: did each candidate answer the question?...if no, what did they appear to be talking about?...did they answer by ignoring the issue and attacking their opponent?...did the candidate present evidence to support what he or she said?...did they seem threatening?

When a candidate went off-topic to speak about another topic, do you think that was appropriate?...should a moderator have brought the candidate back to the topic of the question posed?...when the audience (who promised to stay quiet) cheered, how do you think the moderator handled the situation?

How did it make you feel when candidate A sat down to listen to candidate B?...how did it make you feel when candidate B followed candidate A around the stage?...did that candidate's smile look real or fake?...did that smile happen at a time when it made sense to smile, or was the topic too serious to smile about?

When candidate B threatened to jail candidate A, is that something that a candidate can do according to the Constitution?...when candidate A spoke about a recent event in the news, did they feel sincere?

Take it out of the personal realm, and make it about thinking...that is the skill America will need of its voters in the future.
Kathleen (Bloomington, Indiana)
I teach high school, so I have students a bit older than Mr. Wathke does, but having also taught about the election, a few points:
To those who say Mr. Wathke has failed by treading cautiously: You have no idea how hard this is. I have students' parents who support both candidates. Will those parents complain to the administration if I appear to favor one candidate over another by, for instance, calling out Trump's misogyny or racism? How mature will students be in discussing the candidates? Will they make racist or sexist comments that will then get the teacher in trouble? I haven't had an issue, but a colleague who tried discussing the election with a lower-level class of 17-year-olds found it quickly devolved. One boy said Hillary "needed the big D; that would fix her." (Consult your urban dictionary if need be; it doesn't mean Democrats.) Another teacher, who brought up the issue of Trump's tape, didn't know if she should allow the class to say "pussy" in talking about.
Yes, teachers want students to fully understand the election issues and drama, but we often walk a fine line between parents and administrators. Hat tip to Mr. Wathke for being willing to go there.
Elizabeth Bennett (Arizona)
Let's be clear that the shocks in this presidential campaign are entirely from Trump. I'm sick of false equivalencies that pretend that somehow Mrs. Clinton is equally culpable for the vulgarity, violence, racism and misogyny of Mr. Trump.

It is understandable that teachers are challenged to explain what this media monster show is about, but that is because Trump is running and getting most of the coverage. Teachers won't want to appear to be partisan, so it's a difficult situation for them. The truth is that that Trump is responsible for this mess.
P2 (NY)
TO be more precise, shock is from entire GOP with Trump as their leader.
ruffles (Wilmington, DE)
As is the Republican Party for hoisting this poor excuse on the rest of us.
DRS (New York, NY)
That's not fair, Elizabeth. One side we have the vulgarity of Trump and on the other we have a pathological liar. Neither is a "normal" candidate for president, and neither should be treated as such.
SteveZodiac (New York, NYget)
“I think if you repeat some stuff that Trump says, you could get sent down to the principal’s office,” said Connor Felton, 12. “Maybe even expelled.”

So a twelve-year old boy has more common sense and decency than the Republican nominee.
Norma Richman (Pasadena)
While it's difficult this year to discuss the campaign, in subsequent years teachers--especially history or social studies teachers--will be able to refer back to Trump's manipulation of his supporters, especially the fringe element, as an example of how someone like Hitler could have come to power. Very few instructors are alive today who witnessed that era first hand, and yet here we are.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Hillary manipulated her DNC, her husbands other women, the press, her doctors, her public and private opinions.. Manipulation drives her low trustworthy numbers.
J McGloin (Brooklyn)
Here are some ideas. Ask them:
What are the campaigns not talking about?
How is the system supposed to work compared to how it is actually working?
Who benefits when the system is manipulated?
Why does the media spend all of its time talking about Trump's controversies?
Why do Clinton's campaign commercials concentrate on Trump instead of her vision for the future?
Why are third parties left out of the debates?
Why do most polls only ask about two candidates?
If Trump is a "job creator" why is he famous for firing people?
Where does Trump get his products manufactured?
What was the effect of Trump's businesses on Atlantic City?
Will Trump help average Americans or mostly himself?
Although it's true that most politicians feel a need to have have different public policies and private policies, they usually don't say that. Why would Clinton say it to a bunch of global finance execs in secret?
Why does the media rarely mention the third parties?
Do you think that Clinton can take millions in campaign donations and speaker fees from global corporations and not feel obligated to help them?
Why did the Associated Press call the Democratic primary the night before the largest state voted?
Why doesn't the media discuss polls asking the People what policies they want to see implemented?

This is the best election ever. It lays bare the scam that is the US electoral system. Teachers do not be distracted by the distractions. Ask high ended questions about the underlying reality.
Hetty (Madison Wisconsin)
Your questions for the class are so apt! If only the voting citizenry would also grapple with the more substantial issues surrounding political campaigns, along with the important issues the U.S. president confronts.

I agree with your conclusions only as far is this election reveals the many fault lines of our election process. Public discourse should be civil.
Jason R (New York, NY)
Yes, exactly!
Bill Scanlon (Madison, WI)
Your reply is complete and utter nonsense. Your candidate is completely and utterly unfit to be president.
Susan (<br/>)
This teacher is doing such a fantastic job of showing his students how to have civil discussion about a less-than-civil campaign! This is what we all need to learn. How to pick over the memes and tossaway comments to extract the real substance of the candidates' stances on issues that matter.

And honestly, these students are summing up the state of things better than most people: “I think if you repeat some stuff that Trump says, you could get sent down to the principal’s office,” said Connor Felton, 12. “Maybe even expelled.” Amen.
pete beyer (Granville)
To teach this election to seventh graders, it helps if you're a saint or Socrates. Strength and endurance to you, Mr. Wathke.
Kathleen Nadeau (Southern California)
Quite frankly, I lost interest in this piece quickly. My reaction was that we are dumbing our children down in the public school system. The teacher in this class is not teaching them to do their homework (e.g., how to do thorough research based on accurate news reportage and peer reviewed sources.) Why not ask students to research the biographical careers and lives of both candidates? Hillary's career alone would be a good education for our students in terms of her work ethic and the contexts in which she worked and made difficult decisions. She obviously has a good quality education and knows how to study and read. What a shame that the example of teaching rendered here is at such a shallow and superficial level.
Badger Beth (WI)
How do you know he is not doing this? Just because it is not mentioned here does not mean it's not done.
lojo (michigan)
we don't have homework anymore... not daily at least... my son is in 7th grade and he's had two instances of homework so far.... and he is not alone. There is less emphasis on rote and memorization, and more emphasis on discussing and debating the how and why.
Delong parent (Eau Claire, WI)
Kathleen Nadeau, it seems to me that you made comments without following your own advice. Where is your homework, your "thorough research based on accurate news reportage", your "peer reviewed sources"? Are you that familiar with Mr. Wathke's homework requirements? Do you have any concrete data to support how much independent research my 7th grader did in regards to the campaign topics and the candidates? Or that the article actually cited the following, "The students were armed with work sheets, filled out before class, answering questions he had posed. What are the most important issues facing the country? Where do the candidates stand? Which candidate would be a better president? The article (which I thought was well written) did not include the topics the students discussed, to include: fossil fuel usage, immigrants (to include Syria and Mexico amongst other areas of the world), economic issues, racial issues, etc. To deem such topical discussion as "shallow" and "superficial" is itself shallow and superficial. These 7th graders were discussing topics which will affect them for years to come while you want them to write biographies of the candidates. That seems to me to be a dumbing down of the public education system. Kudos to Mr. Wathke for encouraging critical thinking and respectful debate, which seems to be lacking in this election year.
angus (chattanooga)
I wish people would stop associating Hillary with the squalor of this campaign. It's yet another false equivalence. She's married to an adulterer; his conduct is not her fault and her reaction to it isn't out of line with what most women must feel when confronted with a spouse's infidelity. On the other hand, I'm sure she and the debate moderators welcome a shower after sharing the stage with Trump.
Occupy Government (Oakland)
Ah, yes. When children are smarter than adults, it's time to see if they need any extra help.
Pedro Shaio (Bogota)
I respect the teacher for wanting to preserve the innocence of his students and prevent his classroom from being degraded.
But these are illusions.
The innocence of the students is a myth. They know about adultery, about groping, about foul-mouthed men (or boys). Even if they are obedient children who do not watch pornography on internet, the mainstream culture and everyday life contain these topics. And more.
As to degradation, no topic degrades. What can degrade is a coarse attitude to a topic.
I cannot think of anything worse than trying to 'protect' seventh-graders from the way things are. Nothing is more dangerous than keeping things quiet. Because these things are there, and if you feel that it is forbidden to talk about them, you become vulnerable whenever you do need to talk about them, perhaps because you or a friend or relative is in trouble.
A related topic is the anguish of parents. Of course they want their children to grow in a decent world! But how to make the world decent requires changes that people have been ignoring ever since the rot set in to American society with the neglect of the Vietnam veterans. And these parents and before them theirs, have not listened.
The critique of American society includes consumerism, foreign policy not based on war, absorbing the lessons of the sixties, and better income distribution.
Both candidates this year reflect the failure of America to come to grips with itself. No amount of 'protection' can hide this, nor should it.
paula (new york)
Actually, I do want to preserve the innocence of children. Middle schoolers aren't ignorant of adult behavior, but they also know that poor behavior isn't tolerated by most adults they respect, and it isn't ubiquitous in sane, responsible workplaces and households. Trump's behavior suggests otherwise -- and forces all of us to become hardened. I don't want that world for my kids. Did you see the story about Donald Jr.,'s language on the radio? That's what happens to young people steeped in this sewage.
Al Largement (Midwest)
This hits the nail on the head. Politics is too important to "shield" middle-schoolers from it. They've already seen it all, but even if they hadn't. they need to be made aware of what's going on, so they can do better.

No one should be disciplined for thinking carefully about words a presidential candidate has uttered, even if that process requires repeating them. Part of the problem with this election is our self-imposed echo chamber--liberals sticking to the New York Times, conservatives sticking to Breitbart--because we cringe away from the offensive, and so choose sources that only reinforce our deeply held views. And so we have no concept that legitimate dissent exists, and instead we simply demonize the opposition.

The way around this is exactly the opposite of "shield[ing]" ourselves. We must confront the tiger. We have to seek out dissenting, and yes, offensive viewpoints, and learn to use the tools that will help us carefully dissect them. No one is too young to learn this critical thinking--especially when it matters most.
Robert (Canada)
There's not way to have a civil discussion when the entire theme of the country is division, race-baiting, and an endless hunt to fan the flames of every last annoyance, irritation, and offense that can possibly be found.
george spencer (ny)
No surprises here. One candidate represents the angry and the other represents the fat cats and the filth has risen to the surface where it belongs. Now that the underbelly of American culture is in full public view, perhaps we will take more care regarding who represents us. Eliminating the gerrymandering voting districts would be a good place to start. So would having election day on the weekend. So would having a national, non partisan campaign to register voters. So would explaining to kids that the problem is caused by their parents.
Jen (WA)
Unfortunately, it's impossible to have an unbiased get out the vote campaign. Only one party wants as many people as possible to go to the polls.
Deborah Dempsey (Philadelphia, Pa.)
As a former teacher of seventh-graders, I think he's doing a darn good job! Every class is a tinderbox, anyway. . . the eruption can be awful or it can be uncontrollable laughter.
Lois Stober (Adamstown, PA)
I don't have children in school, but I was wondering when this would come up. Sounds like this teacher is doing a good job given the nastiness of the campaign. I think the one kid had it right about being sent to the principal's office if he repeated some of what he heard. That should be a clue!
maria5553 (nyc)
Well the good news is, these are great thoughtful kids. They know what it means to be respectful to one another. Too bad we have to shield them from a republican front runner whose behavior is reprehensible. Nice job republicans!
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Yeah, nice job Republicans. Wasn't the job BillClinton did on 7th graders in the 90s enough?
Neal (New York, NY)
"Wasn't the job BillClinton did on 7th graders in the 90s enough?"

You mean Ken Starr, don't you?
maria5553 (nyc)
thank you Neal, I was going to respond, but I couldn't do it better than you did.
Caroline Miovski (Ottawa Canada)
I have spoken at length with my children about politics over the last few years. Wow! this time I have had to explain more vulgar words and issues, which usually don't have anything to do with a political campaign for the highest office in the country.

Akira now knows what groping is, to defend herself from some creep trying to grasp her pu$$y, she is aware that women face sexual assault too often, Tristan has learned that you need to respect women, not that he didn't know it already...Terrible words from powerful people who stand in front of cheering crowds telling lies and spreading disharmony and hatred against vulnerable groups.

We have bigger issues in the world: global warming, ISIS, nuclear proliferation in NKorea, antibiotic resistant bacteria... I could go on. Why are they squabbling with this man who is unfit and unqualified? I guess it's good reality tv and I'm sure that cnn's ratings are up. What a sad, sad place we find ourselves in.
Bill Kortum (<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>)
Sounds like 12 year old Connor Felton has this election nailed: Trump should be sent down to the principal's office. Maybe expelled.
Nyalman (New York)
And so the progressive indoctrination of our children continues!
MejRt (NYC)
If only!
SteveZodiac (New York, NYget)
If by "progressive indoctrination of our children", you mean teaching them to be thoughtful, concise, respectful of others, inquisitive, scientific in their reasoning, searchers of truth, and involved citizens, then I believe my tax dollars are well-spent.
Jeff (California)
While I did not see anything in the article that was "progressive indoctrination" I did see an almost super human effort to teach about how out system works without talking about the hatrful, foul mouth bigotry of one candidate. I suppose that if someone read out loud the Sermon on the Mount in the classroom, you would condemn it as "Progressive Indoctrination." That is so sad.
D Price (Wayne NJ)
The candidate who wants to Make America Great Again is already having a deleterious effect on our educational system.
Working Mama (New York City)
My 6th grader recently told me that "Trump is inappropriate for children".
Jeff (California)
Or adults for that matter!
TheraP (Midwest)
I taught 3rd and 4th grade (to children of mostly working class parents) in the 70's. A time when it was possible to mostly ignore an election till voting day, when we'd have a mock election - without rancor or argument before, during or after.

As I contemplate how I'd handle this election with that age group, I think I'd engage the class on discussions about how they'd make a set of rules that politicians should have to live by. We could discuss our list of rules, not just in terms of politics, but how they'd structure the world or wish the world would be structured. I have no doubt that young children could handle this task and would come up with something they could feel proud of. And so could I.

As far as the actual Election was going, I'd encourage them to write privately in their daily diaries - which I used to read and respond to each day (unless they folded the page, meaning it was private for them alone). I usually gave them a "sentence starter" first thing every morning - which they could use or not - something open-ended, like "Today I feel..." or "Last night..." or "I wish..."

I expect the election might come up by itself. But I think together we'd make a rule that while adults might be arguing over these things, we'd figure out how to get along, how to make a better world. If only in our classroom.
Ken L (Houston)
Thank you for being a teacher back then. I knew of some people that was of that age back then--I won't say who--but thanks again for doing the noble profession.
MenuRaves (New York City)
What? No discussion of the Laffer Curve or the Smooth-Hawley Tariff or any of the other Republican orthodoxy's failed economic policy on which Trump is campaigning? The more different this election is, the more it is the same. Voodoo Economics... anyone, anyone, Beuler?
Ellen (Louisville, KY)
Kudos to Mr. DeLong for his handling of the matter in his classroom. It's sad to think that this generation of kids might think this normal, acceptable behavior among politicians. It will be interesting to see how history books present 2016 to future students.
Neal (New York, NY)
"It will be interesting to see how history books present 2016 to future students."

That will depend on whether right-wing Texans are still dictating their content.
MLechner (Phila, PA)
Ah, the GOP "Party of Family Values".
Texas voter (Arlington)
Kids are actually following this election quite closely - like the morbid fascination of drivers watching a wreck on the highway, with all the blood and gore that is hard to look away from. As teachers, we can only try to turn the horror into life lessons, rather than behavior to mimic as the kids grow up.
Jason R (New York, NY)
I hope Mr. Wathke is also making his students aware of the principled third-party candidates who, agree with them or not, are running issue-based campaigns. Maybe the next generation will be ready to not be sheep and reject the arrogant duopoly of the Dems and Republicans who can count on voters to accept whatever crappy candidate they give them.

P.S. - Johnson-Weld 2016!
Rich (New Rochelle)
Perhaps you should watch the following John Oliver video regarding the third parties in its entirety. It is comedy but is laced with far more facts than most news shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU
Jason R (New York, NY)
I've seen it. While I'll grant the piece is funny, Oliver doesn't take into account that Johnson wants to cut the budget by 20% along with his tax proposal. I'll put my trust in Johnson before I'll put my trust in Clinton (increase taxes and increase spending) or Trump (cut taxes and increase spending). Either one of them will double our debt yet again, just as Bush and Obama have doubled it.
Neal (New York, NY)
Jason, what is Aleppo and who is a world leader you admire? Johnson makes W look like that guy who broke the bank on "Jeopardy" a few years ago.
JC (NY, NY)
It gives me some cheer, at least, to read about a thoughtful and committed teacher in an article about this disheartening election cycle. Thank you to Brent Wathke and other teachers like him.

I'm also glad that these young kids recognize reprehensible behavior for what it is. Let's hope their generation can grow up to treat others with more civility than their parents' and grandparents' generations are.
Zane (NY)
This this is so so sad. I was 13 when I watched the Nixon-Kennedy debate. I was enthralled and inspired. It made me think. It made me proud. And it inspired a series of debates in my civic class
I am so appalled at the degeneration that has occurred. I hope that teachers everywhere use the best examples previously recorded debates to see what a real discussion of the issues looks like
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
You don't have to go back even that far. This year makes the debates between boring Al Gore and GW Bush sound stirring and uplifting. They make Fritz Mondale seem Presidential.

And BTW: it is equally awful on both sides. Nothing but screaming and braying, and the news media is no better -- digging for every pathetic scandal and acting like The National Enquirer.
Charles (Charlotte, NC)
I don't see any signs for the Libertarian presidential ticket of Gov. Gary Johnson and Gov. Bill Weld on that wall. Perhaps if these schools and teachers would provide a COMPLETE education, giving consideration to ALL the nationwide candidates, their students would see that this election has not been reduced to a brawl between a inexperienced narcissistic misogynist and a corrupt paranoid warmonger.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
According to the lefty media, and this publication and most TV outlets...our tiny American brains are too simple and small to be able to hear from any other candidates or parties. We might overheat and meltdown if we heard any opposing opinions.
Neal (New York, NY)
Anyone who is paying attention to this election has in fact seen and heard Gary Johnson and having done so, concluded that he is a fool. Political trivia may be fun, but it's hardly core curriculum for schoolchildren.
Sivaram Pochiraju (Hyderabad, India)
School teachers need not bother to teach students about any political campaign leave alone the present presidential nasty campaign, instead they should concentrate on the class subjects. if at all these students are to be taught, then the students should made to learn basic information regarding House, Senate and the duration of elected Congressmen that's all. They can be provided detailed information when they reach college.

Strong foundation of school students in class subjects matters most and certainly not dirty politics.
Neal (New York, NY)
I'm guessing that in Hyderabad, India you're not seeing the 24/7 Trump Offensive blaring from every media outlet. That's the situation here and even the smallest children are exposed to it.
J (New York, NY)
These students are delightful. One example that might be useful to the class in terms of contrast would be the "incident" in the 2012 campaign where one of Romney's sons told a reporter that during one of the debates he felt like "punching Obama in the face." The Romney campaign immediately condemned the comment, the son apologized, and the president accepted the apology. What a world of difference from what has been said and done in this campaign.
SBerry (Milan)
What does it say when our 7th graders are more respectful, incisive and coherent than the Republican presidential candidate? The most worrying aspect for me is the last line--"normal" politics has now become boring for an entire generation. Trumpist entertainment, I hope, will not become the new normal.
rainreason (seattle)
As long as the candidates address the issues candidly, it will never be boring. No reality TV antics needed. The issues are dramatic enough.
Bill S. (PA)
YUou tell them the same thing you would tell them if there were no Mexicans in your class. I fel sure this teacher would do exactly that.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
Trump is not anti Mexican. Are there MEXICANS in your class -- citizens of Mexico! -- or Mexican-Americans. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Mexican-American citizens who are legally here need fear nothing whatsoever from Trump or anyone else.

ILLEGAL ALIENS from Mexico or Central America are not here legally, and must return ASAP to their native homelands.

Any decent teacher -- any decent adult -- any decent student -- any decent CITIZEN -- should clearly and loudly tell every illegal child that fact. You are here illegally. You MUST return to your homeland. Staying here illegally is a CRIME.

A teacher who fails to tell her illegal students this is culpable in that same crime.
catlover (Steamboat Springs, CO)
CC, are you including the US citizens born to undocumented aliens in your command "You MUST return to your homeland"? And your attitude is punishing the children for the crimes of the parents.
Neal (New York, NY)
"And your attitude is punishing the children for the crimes of the parents."

catlover, that is CC's life story. Ask her about her grandchildren (and her relationships with their parents) some time.
rainreason (seattle)
Oh boy! First to comment. I have a seventh grader, so I claim some authority. Frequently my boy reminds me that I shouldn't worry about his exposure to swear words or the concepts that wrought them, or beyond, because I chose to send him to public school. These kids are smart and worldly in ways good and sad. It's not just public school, it's the internet. So if we're going to apologize about Trump, which I do, frequently, let's also apologize for the pratfalls of public school, the worldwide raunch, I mean web, and other significant conditions we're explaining and incrementally leaving to them. I'm a little worried the state of things is stirring rampant religious rebirths. On a more hopeful note, Trump may be pushing us to a tipping point, after which reality and decency will steer our daily actions and governance in a more widespread way, if not universally. Please, let it be so.
Badger Beth (WI)
Students will hear the same language in many a private school as well.
c harris (Candler, NC)
This what happens when a voracious stud muffin who spouts endless bigoted non sense wins a major party's nomination. This is what happens when you are married to voracious stud muffin and trying to win the presidency.
west-of-the-river (Massachusetts)
Are you being sarcastic? I think the only person who would regard Donald Trump as a "stud muffin" (which implies sexual attractiveness) is Donald Trump.
mmpack (milwaukee, wi)
Yes indeed, what kind of voracious stud muffin talk would we hear in a locker room with Bill and Donald? Now, there's an SNL skit.
Neal (New York, NY)
"Stud muffin" is a compliment, c harris. You must be hanging out in the wrong bars.
SSH (AZ)
I’m taking a pill to sleep through this hump
Of watching a television candidate like Trump.
My kids go to school with tales of division,
While their math skills have hit a wall with collision.

My son’s high school has cancelled their mock debates,
After the kid playing Trump nailed the role, right down to the hate.
He was sent to the principal’s office and hasn’t been seen since,
We’re wondering if he ran to Mexico and is building a fence.

But he riled up the kids who all failed Spanish,
And poor Mrs. Gonzales had to vanish.
Rumor has it she’s teaching English to Canadians,
Making extra maple syrup and tending to her geraniums.

And second grade isn’t any better,
The two camps are as heated as hot, spicy pepper.
With the anti-bullying campaign now clearly defunct,
The kids are all running around like spoiled little punks.

However, middle school is clearly the worst,
With the toughest kid in school wearing the same shirt.
With the banal slogan: Make ‘Merica Great Again,
No one will challenge him for fear to offend.

With their teachers no longer teaching current events,
Deemed too controversial to side with commonsense,
I cannot help but wish for this nonsense to be condemned,
Please, oh please, wake me up when November ends.