One also has to bear in mind, the information reaching Chinese audience is by no means unbiased. The states have the first crack on the data before passing to the public; so whatever you may read from here can only be taken with a grain of salt.
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Hillary will represent a short term pain but long term gain for the Chinese. She will be dogmatically trying to lead the US to confront China again where the relative powers are no longer the same, where she will drag US further into the depletion of resources as priority is wrongly set, for the longer term, US will be less a threat for China. Trump will be a short term gain but a long term pain for the Chinese. A simplistic approach of making priority will mean Chinese might be left alone but US will definitely bounce back in confronting China with better strength in the long run. Strategically, it will be much tougher to deal with Trump even though he might appear as the benign kind. Luckily, it looks as if Americans will be choosing the strategically easier one for the Chinese.
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Fascinating article. This is definitely a positive development, as any effort to make the whole process more understandable, even to what is only a relatively small number of people in China, could serve to dispel misconceptions.
If Mr You were to place all his 70,000 listeners in one wide spot in the road in China, no one would notice them passing by. It’s good these chaps have something to occupy their time but to view his assessment of Chinese opinion on the US election as representative of much of anything is a stretch other than the fact that it is a controversial occurrence little understood here as well as there.
If there are Trump supporters it’s likely because he might do something different that Clinton who is seen as another ‘Pivot to Asia’ agent. They see the US as engaging in Encirclement of China, a descriptive abbreviation.
If there are Trump supporters it’s likely because he might do something different that Clinton who is seen as another ‘Pivot to Asia’ agent. They see the US as engaging in Encirclement of China, a descriptive abbreviation.
"Third, much Chinese support Trump’s isolationist foreign policy. They believe that Trump would take a more pragmatic approach towards China and create new opportunities for China’s rise."
Human's selfish thinking at work. They thought: Bad President for the US === Good for China.
The reality is Bad President (like Bush) === Bad for The World
and if
Trump is POTUS === APOCALYPSE For The World
The World include China.
Human's selfish thinking at work. They thought: Bad President for the US === Good for China.
The reality is Bad President (like Bush) === Bad for The World
and if
Trump is POTUS === APOCALYPSE For The World
The World include China.
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Yes the boys in Beijing just cant wait to address the most powerful person in the world, Madam President!
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It is very simple. Through various manipulative, corrupt, ways and means, the rich "appoint" persons for the lazy, naive, and cowardly public to choose from, who will do as they are told to make sure the rich continue getting rich, and the easily manipulated and immature public votes for one of them. There is an increasingly desperate need for REAL leadership in this country, and for a public that has the guts to make it happen, which can be done.
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How is this not like A House of Cards? If they put this on TV no one would believe it was realistic. Make a list of the plots but don't miss the husband of Clinton to aide, Anthony Weiner and his serial sexting.
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No one knows what the billion plus Chinese 'think'. They are individuals and have individual beliefs and thoughts.
Ask U.S. citizens about the Electoral College, gerrymandering, campaign finance laws and you will also find most of them uninformed.
Consider this question: what do U.S. journalists know and think about the election processes in China.
Ask U.S. citizens about the Electoral College, gerrymandering, campaign finance laws and you will also find most of them uninformed.
Consider this question: what do U.S. journalists know and think about the election processes in China.
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Dont under estimate the power of that propaganda machine that runs throughout China 24-7- 365
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Is this article a reflection of pandering to the Chinese government? Many mainland Chinese who have come here to study and stayed, do not want to return to China ever. They are among the hardest working and subservient employees I've ever met. Very welcome by U.S. accounting firms.
I do not see the Media discussing Trump's suggestion in the Debate, that "China enter North Korea" to control that rogue Nation?
I wonder how Chinese people fell about that?
I wonder how Chinese people fell about that?
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Propaganda matters. For lots of Chinese, Clinton is deemed as a "liar", a typical politician who utilizes all the resources she has to "control" the election process. Her attitudes toward China is not better than Trump. She changes her positions (LGBT issue, TPP etc.) and for what? - maybe for the ballots? maybe for the money? maybe she hides something in the deleted emails? People just do not know. Most importantly, her policy is just talk, no action. Her policy is opaque and unfavorable to Asians/Chinese in the US (take a look at her education policies and immigration plicies). She, to some extent, "discriminates" the Asians.
Trump, on the other hand, at least is predictable in terms of policy direction. Chinese knows his policy and people could do something in advance.
Trump, on the other hand, at least is predictable in terms of policy direction. Chinese knows his policy and people could do something in advance.
Another very important factor for many native Chinese support Trump is their empathy of being the victim of tolerance extremists like many other Trump supporters here. China has been the target for several terrorist attacks, many of which, irony enough, were labeled by western media like NYT as 'clash' triggered by 'repressions to local Muslim'.
Now even many western elite asked themselves 'how' Trump manage to be so close to the title of president, without even admitting that the sharp divergence of race has been covered under political correctness so deep for so long. They wonder why Chinese are 'ignoring' the racist from Trump - we are not at all 'ignoring'. Conversely, we are trying our best to demand a strong and determined action out of the swamp of political correctness like many of Trump's supporters here we in US.
Now even many western elite asked themselves 'how' Trump manage to be so close to the title of president, without even admitting that the sharp divergence of race has been covered under political correctness so deep for so long. They wonder why Chinese are 'ignoring' the racist from Trump - we are not at all 'ignoring'. Conversely, we are trying our best to demand a strong and determined action out of the swamp of political correctness like many of Trump's supporters here we in US.
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Dear Moongoat:
How do you feel about Donald Trump’s plan to impose high Tariffs on Chinese Exports to the U.S.?
How do Chinese feel when Donald Trump says (as he did early in the Sep 26th Debate) that “China is devaluing its Currency”?
I see from www.xe.com that, as of Sep 29th, one USD = 6.67 Yuan, making one Yuan = 14.99 or 15 U.S. Cents. (http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CNY&view=10Y )
I show that from Jan. 2005 to Sep 29th, 2016, the Yuan actually increased in value by a net amount of 3 U.S. Cents, from 12 to 15 U.S. Cents or by 25%.
So how do Chinese people react when Trump attacks China for having a Yuan that is too weak?
On October 1st, (China’s National Holiday), the Yuan will be an Official IMF Reserve Currency, on the same level as the USD, Euro, & Yen. Do you think this will make the Yuan’s value increase against the USD?
Why did China lobby the IMF for that change, when it is expected to lead to a stronger Yuan, which would hurt Chinese exports, making them more expensive?
Do you think that Trump will be happy if the Yuan increases verses the USD and will acknowledge that fact?
Or will Trump say that the IMF made the Yuan a Reserve Currency because “it does not respect President Obama”?
Finally, how can you post a Comment from Beijing? I thought “The Great Firewall of China” prevented that.
Best Wishes from Brooklyn, New York, USA.
How do you feel about Donald Trump’s plan to impose high Tariffs on Chinese Exports to the U.S.?
How do Chinese feel when Donald Trump says (as he did early in the Sep 26th Debate) that “China is devaluing its Currency”?
I see from www.xe.com that, as of Sep 29th, one USD = 6.67 Yuan, making one Yuan = 14.99 or 15 U.S. Cents. (http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CNY&view=10Y )
I show that from Jan. 2005 to Sep 29th, 2016, the Yuan actually increased in value by a net amount of 3 U.S. Cents, from 12 to 15 U.S. Cents or by 25%.
So how do Chinese people react when Trump attacks China for having a Yuan that is too weak?
On October 1st, (China’s National Holiday), the Yuan will be an Official IMF Reserve Currency, on the same level as the USD, Euro, & Yen. Do you think this will make the Yuan’s value increase against the USD?
Why did China lobby the IMF for that change, when it is expected to lead to a stronger Yuan, which would hurt Chinese exports, making them more expensive?
Do you think that Trump will be happy if the Yuan increases verses the USD and will acknowledge that fact?
Or will Trump say that the IMF made the Yuan a Reserve Currency because “it does not respect President Obama”?
Finally, how can you post a Comment from Beijing? I thought “The Great Firewall of China” prevented that.
Best Wishes from Brooklyn, New York, USA.
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Pretty fascinating how the policies of the supposedly anti-China candidate would benefit China(and Russia) the most.
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So, what do they think about Trump's suggesting that Japan and the Republic of Korea become nuclear-armed states?
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What they should understand is that Hillary Clinton is going to call Trump liar, bigot, vulgar, crazy, obnoxious, or stupid regardless of what he says or does. In American elections, this is normal; ignore it.
@Ed
I suspect that there are many intelligent Chinese observers of U.S. politics who see clearly that Mrs. Clinton does not have " to call Trump liar, bigot, vulgar, crazy, obnoxious, or stupid" precisely BECAUSE " of what he says or does."
I suspect that there are many intelligent Chinese observers of U.S. politics who see clearly that Mrs. Clinton does not have " to call Trump liar, bigot, vulgar, crazy, obnoxious, or stupid" precisely BECAUSE " of what he says or does."
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Simplified, they like Trump because he'd be bad for the United States and good for the Chinese to rise. Exactly what I believe and mirrored to why Putin loves Trump, and would like nothing more than for him to win. Terror groups also would love a Trump win, because it's the demise of the United States with him at the helm. Divide and Conquer, with allies fleeing we saw this under Bush, the United States would be more isolated. We all know, nothing good comes from Isolation in a now Global World. Trump supporters are so anti-intellect just like him, that they will never understand this. The flag waving pro gun movement is now anti-America. It is confusing, so the Chinese shouldn't feel badly. My head is spinning too.
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The Chinese aren't wrong. The Koch brothers and corporate lobbiests turn American politics into a greed infested capitalist screw up, and the electoral college prevents direct democracy. How else do you think the gun lobby survived after children gets murdered by assault rifles?
This article just makes the author seems very naive.
This article just makes the author seems very naive.
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Exciting!
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Maybe this is because the Chinese art community is not allowed to make fun of it's leaders, and form of "government." In the US, cults are considered anti-social, anti-history, and anti-culture. Your leader is building a cult of personality, like North Korea. "House of Cards" is a fiction!
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This is an interesting perspective and Mr. You and his colleagues should be congratulated for allowing a peek into the Chinese mindset regarding our electoral process. Given the ongoing crackdown by President Xi against almost any and all foreign reporting within China, one can only hope that efforts like this podcast proliferate in the future on other topical issues. One aspect of the story that I found particularly striking was that the lack of knowledge regarding the US electoral system, and the bias towards a China-centric attitude, mirrors our own situation: many Americans are just as equally uninformed regarding the nature of politics and elections here at home, and just as US-centric in their views regarding China and US-China relations. I wish Mr. You well and hope he can continue his good work.
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Kudos to Podcast and Mr. You for helping to impart valuable knowledge to Chinese citizenry, who are still light years away from understanding how true democracy works. The growing pains will be enormous, as will be the rude awakening and soul-searching as to how and why the present regime -- the exact opposite of democracy -- is still hanging around 27 long years after the Tiananmen incident. Best wishes to Podcast and its broadcasting.
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Fascinating. Thank you
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Interesting choice of words, that Hillary 'interfered' in US-China relations, and interesting dislike of Democrats. It's as if Chinese believe it is the responsibility of a US president to represent the interests of the PRC>
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Fascinating. Don't americans, or anyone else for that matter, thinks that it is the responsibility of foreign leaders to consider their own interests too?
No wonder that Chinese "look at the election from the perspective of what’s best for China," because they like Trump's "isolationist foreign policy" - distancing himself from America's allies. They probably endorse his suggestion that Japan and South Korea should foot their defence bills.
Trump would scrap the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal altogether. It suits China fine, as it is excluded. Trump wouldn't be bothered to stand by the littoral countries of the South China Sea in their territorial disputes with China.
But Republicans have always made China-bashing as raison d'être in their election campaigns. And Trump's supporters harbour deep resentments against immigrants and ethnic minorities. It is doubtful whether they have a high opinion on China. Trump would have to pander to their demands by being tough on Beijing.
Trump would scrap the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal altogether. It suits China fine, as it is excluded. Trump wouldn't be bothered to stand by the littoral countries of the South China Sea in their territorial disputes with China.
But Republicans have always made China-bashing as raison d'être in their election campaigns. And Trump's supporters harbour deep resentments against immigrants and ethnic minorities. It is doubtful whether they have a high opinion on China. Trump would have to pander to their demands by being tough on Beijing.
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